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Some of the legion rares can hit for unmitigated 18-20k dmg
nice numbers
Meaning if they get past dodge. You dead
If I'm doing a Cyclone Slayer for Legion, what's the best way to deal with the bandits?
Crit or noncrit ? @lucid dagger
@violet nymph hmmm... what would I choose for either? haven't decided yet tbh
Non-crit. Kill everyone.
If crit, kill everyone for the 2 points or help the crit multi woman. Forgot her name.
@violet nymph ok thanks!
@wet plaza http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAGHiVUuQVScvBAfyHev1uZPDCUVH8kX-Cv6POuGmVzWSTePYvYV7215QMO_r0B8gbrWF3Yx-r8G0jRnZX-AS71AtfQ5cRX5q-tD1rrMFQkGWXyrr5FXGg9ua4EWdU1L-s2obD8S4yjt8JjwvnRbzB6UC40myEZYy0dSv37CFMr6KoS8I9GpDvOqCEEGHtz6Cm9Wmrv8w-FM17Dh8g2wLogAEsyj6gsfr7riTHNyPGpMnf8YRD20ZLJwi9EyzoqMRLY_6UEJGUmt6F6TUB_xMyL_cjRM1OtiJ0yoLcFKMNklR8NWVLgceXfJmVPno18_5N--ISbHAZgAAAAA= think this would be an improvement over his current tree?
He loses some inc damage, gains crit multi and crit chance, and lots more life?
Its just a really good wheel
dIveRsiTy
Its called math. Wheel is good. People take good thing. Less rippy
Gets you crit and crit multi
Also throatseeker is the same as heartseeker that you had near phase acro.
wouldn't another jewel socket be better than coldhearted calculation
and the crit chance node next to it
jewels are op as fk
well i have CWDT clarity
and later iguess i will get mana leech while affected by wrath watcher's eye
Until then, its better to have consistency
u think i should buy a 1 ex ammy with crit multi and damage penetrates ele res
might give me tons of damage
Ima say it again. Defense before offense. If you are dead doesnt matter how much dps you have. I learned this during betrayal with blade vortex.
what exactly should I be aiming/looking for when I pop a timeless monolith? I imagine it's not just simply hacking and slashing as much enemies as I can....
its surviving after you hacked them ALL 😃
generally you are in for many rares with nasty auras and proximity shields are very common (and annoying when lion's roar pushes them back)...
Is the freeze and chill immunity on legion mobs intended?
This shit is really annoying playing fb ice nova occultist...
Is anyone having an issue with cyclone on 2 handed duelist? It keeps saying I'm in one place then it skips and puts me in another place.
are you running hte game on predictive
Predictive?
Observation: Varunstra can use shockwave with sword/axe -only skills
time to make some goofy ass varunstra build
WAIT i just realised but ED contagion build and maybe things like KB builds are insane in legion encounters !!!?
so i have a bunch of breachsto- i mean emblems
how do i open a portal to fight em?
just put two of them on the map device maybe?
i mean thats what it says on the tooltip but just curious how people get the 5 slot device
You get a different map device once you beat the 4-army zone
so your edit to my tree made it 160% life
is there any sort of index for the seeds of the jewels
any source of information on specific seeds that are valuable or good, etc?
@violet nymph iswitched my tree to yours
still only have 4400 life 600 es...
with 166% life from tree
correction 4600 life 600 es
build seems way worse
without phase acrobatics and acrobatics
sigh
anyone know if rage ascendancy and rage gem is faster generation
reddit doesn't have a decisive answer
you mean if they stack?
there's no source of rage faster than 0.3s, but if you use rage support as a zerker then you will get 2 rages per attack every once in a while
i just tested it
hitting 1 pack
2 rage
basically every time
i assume those hits are within .3s
yeah as long as the cd match
without rage support it's 15s to get max rage
with rage support it's a little more than 8.5s
@pseudo hull well for one, make sure you have like 75 flat life on all gear. 166% life won't do everything for you. You need flat as well
i still dont think that is enough if i have 6k hp but lose that 39% dodge i just get instantly oomed and cranked whenever i flame dash into any group of mobs
seems really bad
What tier map?
was a dark forest
without any bad mods
switched back to my tree and lost 700 hp or whatever but got my dodge back and was able to easily finish it
I see a lot of people saying things like 3m DPS, 6m DPS. You don't need that much for 4 or 5 army fights right? Isn't a reasonable DPS about 200k-500k for Shaper?
You want 2-3mil dps to be profitable @placid grotto
If you take longer than 10 seconds to kill a boss, its taking too long.
do they have 20-30m health?
18-20mil hp
each one is about as much as UElder?
you kill each general once per go-around right?
so that gets you to ~5 cycles then?
assuming you're not limited by move speed
You want 4-5 cycles yeah
There is a loot limit. But unless you are a HH build, you arent reaching it
hmm do the shards scale with map level? I don't think I saw much more in a yellow map vs white
Tbh. No clue
heh guess time for more experimentation
hopefully I can work it into Syndicate once scarabs finish rising
Hard to say because
Let's say red maps have 20% more splinters
Hard to eyeball it without a large sample size study
How do raging spirits handle legion mechanics? Was planning to go with a build around them but was told they get slaughtered easily by the legions
So, about those numbers, a dude told me that I should be dropping ED because it doesn't perform well in the army fights and cyclone gets much better results for less investment. Reaching 2-3mil DPS on ED is real hard, right?
SRS cannot be targeted by monsters Tzeentch (all hail chaos BTW)
They have been out of flavor for a long time now, I believe there are stronger alternatives for minions, even duration ones
cool thanks
super glowy brain question: are "trigger" cooldowns affected by cooldown recovery if the recovery is from the quality bonus of the skill that was triggered
No @sullen oracle
only global cooldown recovery. So like on tree
If a skill has cdr inbuilt. That doesnt affect other things.
@gray horizon I'm not sure on the statement that cyclone gets much better results for less investment, regarding the army fights atleast
I haven't tried Cyclone myself yet so I can't confirm this 100% but looking around sites and POBs it feels like you atleast need a couple uniques that are quite expensive since everyone is playing Cyclone and outside of that some good rares to get your DPS up
@versed dock ive seen people get over 1mil dps for cyclone with a 400dps 2h sword, and a tabula.
Id say, the arguement is pretty fair
400pdps swords 5-10c
Pretty reasonable
i got 100% reduced reflected damage taken but why i'm still taking damage??
i have no elemental damage.... only physical build and
i get yugul 25%+sibyl's lament 40%(right)+elder based ring 18%+master of force20%
total 103% reduced reflected physical damage taken
anyone can help me with this? is this a bug?
You mean you are still taking damage from reflecting damage?
Guys, what maps are good for eldering this league? UGS is fine packed as always, but layout is not great for legion encounters
@midnight phoenix you mentioned a while back that phys trypanon isn't very good? Am I remembering right
Yer
I dont have much respect for any build that needs abyssus to not suck utterly
That said it might be better now with earthquake having a shit ton of extra flat phys
Trypanon vaal eq meme tier maybe
Man i rly loved my eq juqq when i started this game
did ggg say anything about bleed explosions not working with legion enemies?
Yes it's intended
No explosions work on legion
But they haven't confirmed that it's intended
Bex said something about discussing it
It only works when unfreezing
fairly sure they said bleedsplosions weren't going to work since league start.
If HoI works. I see no reason for bleed explosions to not work
What if they changed the monolith to work similiar to the Vaal outposts in Delve? IE you stand right beside the monolith instead of clicking it. It slowly charges up (think 1.5 - 3 seconds) and during that it sends out the trail like in the outposts, except these could be colour coded to each loot mob. You see a few blue trails - Armour in those directions, red - weapons, purple - there's a general on that side etc.
This way we get to kinda pick the loot we want "I'm grabbing all the red mob trails I saw". We can determine if there is a general or not, which army/side would be more profitable, rewards players not watching the minimap (since GGG doesn't like that). Still let's ED, Vaal ice nova, Vaal arc etc blow up the whole screen. But also let's people with less AOE builds pick and choose their loot, instead of randomly running around trying to get something.
Would be decent for a core implementation. But they wont change it that much rn
Yeah it would be a larger overhaul. I just can't think of anything that keeps in line with their vision but satisfies us players too.
So I was skimming Reddit and read that Glad's explosion thing doesn't even proc off of legion mobs after they pop, is this true?
Is it worth to run a 4way battle ? Templar's emblem is like 45c right now, I tempted to sell it and just run 3way
@rocky spade Yes, that's correct
3 way or 5 way @lean tundra
ok thanks !
ah crap you need to do 4way at least once for the 5 slots device... well, no choice then
Is it my imagination or do Legion rewards in maps (i.e. shards) not scale particularly hard in higher maps vs lower maps
It feels like you get about 1.5x in red's vs whites
sounds about right and kind of accurate
You get more value with higher bases but in general the rewards don't scale up a huuuuuge amount between like 5-13
what dps would be viable for an ed trickster to clear a 4 way conflict profitably?
noted
wow that was some shitty loot...
ED is very safe and does a decent amount of damage
but it's not really a speed-dps type thing generally
which you really need with the bosses in a 5way
you said 4 but you would typically do 3/5 for profit
4 is just for unlocking the map
You'd want at least around 1-1.5m for decent returns overall
Yeah
Generally those maps are bringing in profit on 3-5m+ dps builds
nuking down and respawning as much as possible
the standard big quant big damage with an aurabot ranger type thing
what's a good dps for 5way to get it worth it ? without counting HH
it's annoying to estimate dps with Impale on PoB though..
I estimate Impale with a flat damage jewel and pre-calc the effective more damage
6-7m dps and i got 2 full bars of drops in 4-man
^ 5m+ is where i'd put it
ok, still some work to do then
If you're looking for profit, I think you'd have better luck with Delve
Sometimes drops are shit even in decent dps 4man army
I'll probably need to swtich to dual foil instead of exquisite
seems that for the same price I have much more dps
well 1ex from 3way, that's nice
@fast spoke crit impale cycloneman
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZ8iVfr1SQ&feature=youtu.be
Posted one of my 4-man runs earlier around here
fps is crap but you can see the aprox number of drops/lootsplosion/how quickly generals die
got a PoB on this one ?
import -> acc: simsons2 ->char: pointyspiny since im busy right now
make sure to tick maim/frenzy/flasks/power charges/infusion as usual
and x2 dps from impale since pob doesn't calculate
duelyst area has timeless jewel that gives me bit of life and fortify effects but change is not huge
@lean tundra
ya dont forget to tick has fortify
timeless jewel gives me like 20% fortify effect few % life and something else i forgot
still using a Bronn though, so I didn't look for a high dps weapon with fortify
Link your Highest Elegant Hubris #! I got a 156300 one. Not seen a higher one yet
the chest isn't even 6L btw 😄
jeez even with Devoto instead of Abyssus that's a solid 1.6m PoB
1.6m = 3.2m with impale
yeah
all flasks up, full life enable (for Daresso Salute) I'm only at 900k without counting Impale
everything is so OP now lol
tbh unless ure HC i'd just wear Abyssus.
Does quant affect shard drops? Normal general drops like 5 shards. If you have +100quant, do you get 10?
Hey guys, ED + Cont or Cyclone can clear Timeless Conflict (Including bosses) better? If Cyclone, which class / build variant?
I, too, would be interested in that
It would be pretty hard to take ED/Cont to 6m deeps imo
yeah ED/Cont is good for monolith clearing, but not so much for Timeless Conflict
for Cyclone, go pure phys with either Slayer or Champion, there are plenty of build on tihe forums
I think 2H is easier to kickstart with, but dual weild good foils is better dps (and range)
May be mistaken, but wouldn't Ahn's Might be good to save skill points? PoB shows it rather easily getting >2m
It's a very good weapon
@placid grotto I do Ahn's might dwield +pacifism and Oskarm's. Great crit multi and synthesizes with gladiator "10% increased physical damage while at max frenzy charges"
So when legion ends my legion character will just become standard character. it wont interfere with my other standard character?
Correct
You have 24 character slots base
Unless you either have more map completion or Delve deeper in league
yeees
Then it overwrites standard
This game isn't typically played as a "one character for everything" kind of build
Most people play a few characters per league
It overrides just the map completion?
Yeah it can
read in #guides-archive for what happens at the end of a league re:merging
Eh it heavily encouraged one character for everything until Syndicate/Delve changes
?
Meta builds typically are able to clear anything
In general though, people play multiple characters through a league's duration
Because you started fresh with each character and it takes a long time to get back into the cycle with Safehouses and depths
On top of Campaign
I kinda screwed up my cyclone build in league and wanna restart with mathils viper strike build
Fortunately, they're working to reverse that
Wait you can access the stash from another legion character on a new character?
Has anyone seen a write-up explaining the legion jewel mechanics?
I keep seeing screenshots and I feel like I fundamentally am missing something
@gusty bison Some jewels add extra stats to notables (keystones always get changed completely), some timeless jewels makes some nodes do nothing small ones while notables change completely
for example i'm using lethal pride karui/kilova which adds extra stat to notables im using and +4str extra on every small node
Where/how do you aquire them? Drops from the event?
yes from emblem fights similar to breachstone thingy in map device
:(
the number you see on them is basically seed of random passives you get or added
they are completely random and we don't know what seed does add which change to which node that's why for now best thing is to buy combination you need of X jewel since you know what changes it could possibly make and then diving them until it changes notables to what you want
unless you're buying it only for Keystone change that we know which jewel does change to which keystone
Do we have any idea what the # ranges do for the historic jewels?
Not in the slightest. Due to us not having enough info to derive that
where do timeless jewels drop? i got none from a 2 way battle so just wondering
we got one twice in 4man ones
The number ranges affect the notables, but not the keystone https://en.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bzbhsr/legion_jewel_cheatsheet_version_1jpg/?ref=share&ref_source=link
is there a list or cheat sheet explaining what the corrupted keystones like Strength of Blood or Tempered By War actually do? Having trouble finding descriptions
@primal garnet scroll down
https://poedb.tw/us/Legion
ah, ty so much
ehow much time do you get for all 5 of the emblems
5:15 roughly
does anybody know how you end the monolith timer early and make what you've broken out come to life
i've done it on accident a few times but cant recreate it
when you free everything
interesting i could have sworn it has happened when I wasnt done before
I hate that these fuckers dont freeze
gunna have to change up my build i think
was GH
I saw someone mention that the regular dash makes you invulnerable during it, can anyone confirm? 
It has a few iframes
U can bug the game out with it
If ur dashing in the middle of an incursion transition back to the map u will get stuck in the incursion
Like its a very short time period tho
Cant be more than a few frames
So legion worth playing? I mean, for extra juicy stuff
If you arent getting lag. Definitely
legion vendor havnt seen any in this league yet?
There isnt one as far as i know
alright there should be in the acts if there were
Yeah. Im pretty sure no vendor
Everything you need from legion is either emblems or drops. And both come from the monoliths
oke np and the timeless once u have 100 its just put them in the map thing like xophs realm ?
uh well i mean the emblems ofc and not the spilnters
but the meaning in open one is the same like breachstones
Yeah , you put 2 or more emblems together. Unlike breachstones. Which is just one
Been hearing glacier is pretty good.
ah oke
Cant say for sure how good these farming strats are
might going youtube there most be something
Tbh, its just open layout, have good aoe. Get splinters
ah oke i do ice crash unarmed build .D
do I need to clear all mobs in timeless conflict to always respawn all bosses or do they all have internal cds?
and anything fatal I need to expect when fighting the maraketh boss?
I don't want to recast 5 auras :D
Generals have a ~30s cooldown after they're killed before they can be respawned.
aight
chadinal vox was the only dangerous one imo
general rule you can follow to pretty much never get hit there
never backtrack
keep moving
the most fatal thing about maraketh bitch is her mount explodes but not in timeless conflict I think
vox is not dangerous at all if you stay on top of him. but the is the most annoying with his stupid immunity phases spam
impure filth
goddamn those legion chests ae exalt drropperrs
How's the XP for a 5-army? Seems to be about the same price as a pure Chayula breachstone
Cool so breachstones might still be the way to go
What is monster level in a 3-way legion battle ?
oh. Huh. Lower than I expected. I'm level 81 Ed/C trickster, will I be able to have a decent showing in 3-way you reckon ?
think I have +/-21k ED tooltip
@runic trellis I've been hearing that unless you specifically gear for Legion it's either mediocre or a net loss
if you farm your own and use the three cheaper ones its been profitable for me @placid grotto however i tried the 5 man and i ended up crashing midway and not enough dps so it was a total loss
can headhunters drop from legion?
yes
@hallow torrent https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strength_of_Blood is the Kaom keystone.
It prevents life leech from giving you any life.
Instead, it converts the percent of life you would be recovering per second into damage reduction for the duration of leech.
Normally, you are capped at leeching 20% of your max life per second. That would be converted to 10% less damage taken.
With Vaal Pact, you are capped at 40% of your max life per second. That would be converted to 20% less damage taken.
The "less" damage taken is multiplicative. If you have 75% fire resist and take 20% less damage from a fire attack, that's the equivalent of 80% fire resist.
This sounds really good if you combine with life on hit.
@sour fox wow thanks!!!
does a biscos affect monsters frrom legion
Hi guys, im looking for an aurabot for emblem farming, hmu if u are interessted
Im 90% sure item quant doesn't affect legion mobs
Strength of blood jugg ms
only when you would be leeching
if every timeless jewel is different, how in the world do we know what one of them does if we want to buy one
get other person to screenshare with disc and show you realistically
seems very... inefficient
These jewels aren't really designed to be traded or explored efficiently
Even if you self- farm the shards, I think you're still better selling the shards instead of running them. It's 140ish c to get all 5 emblems... But you can sell shards for a little below 200c. To make equivalent profit running them, you'd have to get >350c (since ~150c is used to buy the emblems)
if you run the cheapest 3 for 25 chaos total you get 2 1/2 minutes if i dont get anything good i break even on the least
like i said its all about dps and killing the nodes and reseting as fast as possible
What's your standard return on 3 armies? That's level 75ish right?
it's 75 yeah and I normally make bare minimum 15ex per run
Lol
❤
Normal returns are weighted pretty heavily on your dps
Yeah, I'll agree clear speed is pretty vital
But it's how much loot scales with it
I got a 6L 'bater that gave me a bronn's for 6ex and I got a nice foil with t2/t2 phys and hybrid that went for just under 9 after some messing
Ah
so really it was like
40c and some luck on a drop
since the incubator isn't something I'd typically count
i'd say it scales exponentially with damage
I'd tend to agree but say that it's less exponential and more quadratic
You're gated by the respawn minimums for the bosses
i did few 3 way battles with support and out of those 3 avg returns were like 70c from raw drops
if you can kill them faster than their timer and actually grab some rares on the way it also helps
2 players can actually do them really well especially with support
Yeah my wife is playing bane atm so basically a curse support
works out reasonably well
Interesting. So the next bar is more rewarding than the previous?
Not really, you just get so much more stuff that you get more valuable stuff
It's all about rolls on the dice
ideally you would want to only kill generals and reset
but that would require an absurb amount of dps
to get enough loot in 5 mins
Ah gotcha. Thought you meant it climbed rarity tiers
You can't only kill generals and reset though because of their minimum spawn timers
So you just kill everything
I normally have to reset 2-3x before generals come back
Man how are ya supposed to price these damn jewels
You're not 😃
For real though, you'd figure out how good it is in as many spots as you can, then market it via reddit or trade discord etc
Then screenshare to prove that it's the right jewel etc
Guess its time to gear up a scion lol
You only need level 87 to spec a scion to every jewel node
You can have every jewel socket in the tree at 87, did you take ascendancies?
I don't have the tree on me, but it's possible at 87 for sure
92 isn't terrible either though
How hard is a 4 way solo?
easy, profit is the hard part with these
You'll likely be able to survive and "clear" it just fine
A 4 way is like a colossal tier 12 monolith with no map mods that u clear for 3 minutes straight
If u wouldnt die to a monolith in a tier 12 white map u prolly wouldnt die to the 4 way
The generals are tanky tho so if ur dps sucks just run to middle and skip them
Is there somewhere that the symbols above mobs are detailed in a cheat sheet or key? Can’t find anything on google or reddit.
before i go to sleep if any of u got maraketh emblem we can do 5man army
So, I still haven't used any of my splinters this league. I have enough to do a 3-way, but only 59 templar and 13 maraketh shards. Is it better to save until you have all five?
Can you still get the jewels in small battles?
@steep hollow for 5man you need really good dps
is there a Roc Sentinel in the Lunaris Concourse? or am i being tricked by a legion challenge
if i farm only the monolith does it worth to chisel the map for max quant or quant of the map dont work on legion monster?
does the leech bug happen even if i don't use bloodrage?
hey what we can get more doing the 5 boss legion encounter than we can get doing the 4 boss encounter ? just more loot or specific good stuff ?
Found another Legion Mechanics spawning fail 😃
how to farm timeless jewels?
Do emblem fights
how many required minimum tho
2
and there's a chance for timeless jewel to drop?
Yes
But it grows rapidly with more emblems
this reckoning gladiator build is gonna be fucking sick
clear won't be that great but i'll more or less never die, and do a trillion damage to whatever i get close to
Cyclone build should be decent in clearing legions right? 
Yeah it's pretty decent
Shame the haemophilia doesn't work on them though. And the increased aoe when killing
Any suggestions on pricing these jewels?
level a scion to see what jewel does on entire tree than contact streamer to advertise your jewel then create forum thread with vouch and video proof from that streamer then finally price accordingly on trade site 🙃
instructions were unclear, jewel stuck in you know what
is the effect of a jewel on a particular node the same when socketed in different spots?
What's the best way to do the domain of timeless conflict? I just got enough emblems, should I wait till I get five? I've got three.
You can only do 4 first time, which then unlocks the 5th slot in map device
@cyan yacht speed clear build with hh :^)
Less then 3 bars of rewards is no profit.
New meme build. Zerker Big Ball PePE
Is this fire from the sky prophecy good? Got drops of it
And what does this u will defeat fidelas while holding storm cloud means, I just killed him in act 2 and nothing happened.
Both drops from legion
IN THE LEGION BOSS FIGHT SHOULD YOU CLEAR ALL PERRR WAVE OR ONLY GOOD NODES
whoops ignore caps
I have an ed trickster and a reave berserker, same lvl. Which is better against a 4 way legion boss?
btw it does seem like a jewel has the same effect on the same nodes no matter where it is socketed
yeah the seed impacts your whole tree the same way from any socket
it just allows you to access the parts it's touching
how do you use base shaaper items
?
what does multi mod recepie mean?
You can craft multiple mods onto an item
can it be sold?
Difine sold?
You can give someone else a wepaon and they can craft it on there and give you your weapon back
That is called a service
Be carefull who you choose because you could get scammed
And its 2 ex
any1 can recommend a build for farmign 4 emblem fights? (pref with guide, poe.ninja link)
budget ~ 25ex
Probably trickster essence drain/contagion
Won't cost that much though
Using eber's unification and a +3 chaos staff
I'd say 10-15ex will get you top end for that build
Oh right lol
Emblem fights
For some reason i read that as splinter farming
Best single target is gonna be champion cyclone with a +2 impale pride eye
@undone anchor that would be slayer then, the extra aoe will help you clear random rares with loot on them
Are the 3.7.2 patch changes going to make gladiator's bleed explosion work on frozen mobs?
Not frozen mobs- I mean the legion statues
I get that
how do I figure out how to price a timeless jewel?
is there a site that shows changes, and are they in pob?
no, just gotta figure out the nodes in the game then market it yourself
put a price on it and put into the notes 80% crit multi 50% life yada yada
how do you get timeless jewels?
random drop from timeless domain, some people also claim it can drop from regular legion
am I better off running 4 at once or running two assuming I can handle them?
just run whichever you can clear the most efficient
the jewels themselves aren't that expensive if you wanna just buy one and divine them yourself
except for the maraketh one
so it doesn't matter how many you put in as long as you get a few bars worth of loots
thanks
How much are Maraketh shards/emblems gonna spike? Place your bets 
Is there a place I can see all the versions of the corrupted keystones?
Guys, I'm a busy man, I mean, I got life and job.. but playing as much as can, and I only have 71 MARAKETH splinters while having others in numbers like 250-300
is that normal ?
is it ok ?
I found myself playing maps only to find legion, kill legion and quit
😃
Yes that's normal to have way less maraketh, it's like chayula
8 for sale in total for SC
is Brutal Restraint that good ?
or just that rare ?
I own other jewels but not Brutal Restraint
rly ?
Cuz patch drops and fixes the bug
ok...
They are rarer than a mirror rn
I play in guild, my friends have many timeless jewels
but
nobody has Brutal Restraint yet
LOL 😃
and we are like 100+ ppl in guild
ofc not everyone is playing etc
Yeah, cuz the only way to get it isnt from the domain of timeless conflict
Its bugged so you can only get it from the monoliths boss spawns
Which are hella rare
omg
And even then its only a small chance
so it's gonna get fixed ?
Yup
for the timeless boss who channels that big beam and has statues around him.... is there a way to dps him during channel?
Keeps recharging shield :/
i dont think so
ty
Question, when you have a historic gem in and it takes over 2 of the bigger nodes (Like MoM and EE) if you have both allocated, do you get the effects twice?
no, you can only gain a keystone once
Allocating it does nothing then, right?
yeah it is a wasted skill point to have both
That sucks, thought I'd do some foolishness w/ Hierophant for a minute
imagine quartering your resists but taking all of cold and lightning as fire
and then taking... another 62% phys as fire
when you wake up and want to play with the new patch (#perfect-timing)
Does anyone know if divine flesh stacks?
Keystones never ever ever stack
okey, thanks 😃
So how does bladestorm work with multistrike?
Is the storm damage based on the damage of the original hit or do they do 1-2-3 as well?
maybe it makes a storm for each hit
is infused channeling still bugged
did they nerf legion drops?
i thought they fixed the infused channeling bug
Broke tailwind.
does wed benefit her embrace as much as it does for other things?
think my only conversion is herald of ash
ash is not conversion
oh so it isnt
is there a chest that would work well with oni goroshi that has conversion?
dont think theres any chests no
i mean i assumed they were asking about chests that converted but yeah those are good in general
Where/How do I find out corpse life at X level?
What do the number of coins mean on Timeless Jewels?
That's part of the seed IIRC. Method to identify them
By the way, what happened to the idea of warstaves and rune daggers?
Timeless jewel keystones can't stack if you get double right..?
I assumed not but this guy on Reddit is saying you can stack 2 supreme ego?
Has anyone tested?
You can't stack any keystone
That's what I assumed, wonder what he means then
By the way, the lioneye jewel now also catches a 4 point dagger cluster with phasing on kill
Is the legion mechanic the best way to farm currency? or is there a better way?
flipping is always best way
Being a merchant
Buy thing that is cheap, upgrade item with low effort, sell for more than the upgrade cost
damn so crafting
That one is more like the stock market
and that is the best way to make currency this league?
Legion in maps is a pretty good way to make currency in my experience. It pairs nicely with Syndicate and Incursion spamming
And I suspect Maraketh or General creates a minor lagspike so you have an idea if they're in the map
Yeah but how do farm efficiently , syndicate had the bridge method
Buy Lost Maps prophecies to get a bunch of T1 maps. Open an instance. If it's above the given Latency threshold, rush to encounters. Otherwise, open a new map
This league is really good for it IMO. Sulphur Vents, Haunted Mansion, and Ivory Temple have good layouts and consistent times
Last league only had 1 really good map (Alleyways)
You can expect one encounter every few minutes... I'm getting a set of 3 safehouses every hour on average. Though it's a shame Sulphite Scarabs are taking their time to rise
Here are my notes if it's useful to you
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Might have had permissions messed up. But that should be viewable
I don't expect sulphite scarabs to rise when you can get >100 gilded scarabs in half an hour of mapping
Can you? Wasn't sure how common they actually are, given that currently there Scarabs are at about 70% of where they were last league at this time
I've been crediting it to the time it takes to go deep in delve
Right
You use this and spam the possess prophecy while you're in the map
ending the torment and forceful exorcism
Yes but there are 11 Scarabs. I'd expect them to be more suppressed across the board
is there no change in the drops of legion? i feel like there was a tweak, been farming low lvl map legion for couple days, maybe im just unlucky todaay,,, but the splinter gain ratio is pretty low today
Chris is in the control room laughing maniacally while turning the dial to mess with people
But seriously, they wouldn't say in all likelihood
They can modify it without a patch; see changes to map drops last league
true D: well its unfortunate haha strand was rockin
I added Timeless Jewel support to http://poeskilltree.com/. You can shift click a jewel socket to select the jewel then shift click the nodes change their stats
Oh that's cool!
I plan on hooking it up to a database at some point to start collecting jewel information
why is it that when i die in hc legion , i dont get downgraded to regular legion and not standard?
simple answer: ggg said so. Slightly longer answer: they dont want that hc stuff gets dumped into trade sc
Are legion mobs supposed to attack you while the timer is going and they're "frozen in time"
Because i keep dying to random legion attacks like weird arcing projectiles or fireballs while trying to break them out
Nemesis mods on rare legion enemies still function while they're frozen
Idk whether it's intended but it's definitely something you have to watch out for
Yeah that's the only way I've died recently, mostly to lightning mirage while I stand still for a sec grabbing the first few splinters
Legion tend to have a lot of on death effects that follow you around
making picking up splinters a fun time
Finally did my first Domain of Eternal Conflict. After 50 hours /played I've finally assembled two stones. It was.. underwhelming? 2.5 minutes of killing mobs, a dumb reset mechanic, and mediocre loot.
I want to like this, I really do. It feels like the drop rate on the emblem shards needs to be 5x bigger or something.
I'm just selling my shards TBH
Seems you get much more out of it that way. Price them something like x/20 so you're not constantly getting pinged
stupid question - how do you go from 100 splinters to an emblem?
If you're buying, shards are way more expensive than 1% of an emblem
i figured. better to just buy the whole thing in the end
Except Maraketh... But that will likely correct itself in a day or two
Basically the emblems are only worth atm if ur clearing REALLY fast
HH is 100ex for a reason
i think i'm too much of a filthy casual to get too deep into this lol
Should I feel bad for selling ilvl 68 incubators? Is there a difference between that and ilvl 83 incubators?
best way to profit from legion is to sell the emblems
the timeless conflicts kinda meh
Yes ilvl83 have better rewards generally
Depends on the incubators
But like you are morr likely to get a gilded Scarab if it's high level incubator
Based on what the big mapper guys are saying
So they are all transitioning to either speed legion farming maps or t16 elders
There doesn't seem to be a middle ground when it comes to profiting
did they boost the droprate of jewels
Anyone know how indigon and agnostic (militant faith) interact?
Is it just insane ramp up with the mana drain?
Sacrificing mana is not spending
so im fairly new to legion mechanics and im looking at the new jewels
whats a good jewel base for trapper builds?
i dont exactly understand the wiki so im asking here
Is there a specific tactic for Legion monoliths?
Or is it just to kill as many things as possible before the timer expires?
Alright, I figured it was pretty straightforward like that, but just thought I'd see if there was anything special to do
overall this is a pretty straightforward kind of league
yes if not ts hh dont bother running legion encounters :^)
We need a smart cast like lol has for our toolbar, so we can set when we want to animation cancel. PoE queuing up 2 flame dashes and you stay where you began is annoying.
its cooler if you just flame dash 3 screens away
or get stuck at the wall against bosses
not so much where you need to flame dash and 2 charges go off and you still at your stating place.
I haven't double dashed since the patch
did it countless times last night
rip my fellow non-HH ethical gamer
So, found a cool legion clear build thats not cyclone or ED. SRS -> 20, flesh offering, vaal arc + vaal haste. They literally delete most of the radius if you stand still until 12-13 are left. Then dash/charge to wherever the srs didnt focus and finish up. At the end of freeze I pop vaal skeletons for defense. Pretty satisfying.
fireball (mines) work nicely too
Fireball mines wtf
how hard is the 5 way encounter?
like if I can do shaper comfortably (but not like insta phase him) can I still do it without using up my portals?
I dont need it to be profitable or anything, I just need to experience it/beat it
I think clear speed is more the issue than portals for most people
Idk about difficulty though. Like how much damage they hit you with
health wise the templar guy is at least twice as tanky as shaper in my experience
wtf lmfaooo
the other 4 is as tanky, but the maraket you have to kill her twice
well if the guy just stands there its not as bad
cuz Shaper like teleports around, heals in between phases and stuff making fight longer
so if I can just stand there and DPS him down I could kill him erasonable time
the Templar that is
the 5 way encounter is not that dangerous
it's just high health
the only thing is you want to be healthy enough to be able to dive templar boss
to get rid of statues
if you just want to survive for the challenge, you can ignore him really
all of them definitely have more HP than shaper
maybe lioneye is around shaper HP
@lament dagger
so you cant "fail" it?
only if you lose all portals before the timer runs out
oh ok
but it's an expensive thing to do without killing generals
well yea
but really so long as you kill a couple rounds of generals you'll get a little money back
have you fought all the generals in maps yet?
so you know how to get rid of templar statues
he's the one you need to know the most imo
but like... I kill them fast enough where I dont get a readon on their mechanics
he has like two versions of divine ire
one where he puts up statues around him while he fires the beam
he is invul so long as there are statues
if you touch the statues though they "activate" and you can destroy them
he's already the tankiest so if you don't do this he will take ages to kill
tbh his jewel is wack I think so maybe just ignore him entirely
hmm... im impale bladestorm. this timeless jewel i have gives me 10% increased fortify effect, +5% str and a total of 10% increased maximum life. is it good?
it's a 300+ hp increase
before this jewel i was using another timeless jewel but that one has a total of 10% phys damage is taken as fire damage and 10% reduced damage taken from critical hits
which one is better in you guys opinion? i feel as if the one that gives a better fortify and 300 hp is just way better
10% increased max life on a jewel is pretty damn good
5% str is solid too
10% of phy damage taken as fire is damn strong
its not that easy of a choice
but I would still take 10% increased life in the end
the new jewel that has 5% str and 10% life also has this
but i'd have to spend 3 nodes to get to it
i dont have intimidate in my build so this could be very good
lust for carnage has this chunky 20% increased damage too...
lust isnt worth it but diamon skin is a thing i'd get then
Yeah I'd take diamond skin for intim
Thats fair. But i still cant make up my mind about 10% physical damage taken as fire damage
so basically, one jewel has [10% phys dmg taken as fire, 10% reduced damage taken from critical hits and 20% increased melee damage] while other jewel gives [10% increased fortify effect, 5% increased strength, 10% maximum life and 10% chance to intimidate].
First jewel leaves me with a node extra
Going over damage mechanics it seems the samage taken as fire is a big mitigation
I have 6.7k hp with first jewel and 6.9k hp with second jewel
Im guessing phys to fire is helpful with bosses
Hm
I guess there is one more big part with second jewel
It gives +20% all res
Which means i can drop suffixes from gear
I will go with second jewel.
tbh regular bosses are a joke compared to t16 legions
most bosses are just manually dodged
or blown up in <5s
i guess planning on the 5 way battle is the true goal
Is there a list of where all of the new divination cards from this league drop?
speaking of legion battles. how worth is a 2 way battle? given how often you drop vaal and imperial splinters i get way more of those. could i run them for a chance at a jewel still?
I got an imperial jewel from my first 2-way battle but I think the drop rate is a lot higher the more emblems you add, it's kind of a gamble either way but they definitely drop in the 2-faction version
perfect, that is basicly only what i needed to know as selling those things for 5-7c didnt seem remotly fun
you could just farm 3 way battles
cost efficient compared to doing 4 or 5 way as you buy the cheapest emblems
vaal + eternal + karui
24c per run
GGG said the intention was for 3-4-5 battles to be progressively more valuable
However, no idea how it is once you add in costs
my splinter rng is the worst
everything else, golden. but splinters are so bad for me. into farming yellow maps and still not a full stack
Anyone have the 150 tag challenge ? Me and a friend are trying to get it but cant figure out how
Are there always 150 mobs or is it rng?
For splinters, I've found it best to ignore 90% and rush to the back line
That's where the general and/or warstash are
not always
in shitty maps like necropolis there might not be or might be impossible to tag in time
just do open and easy map for those like beach, glacier
glacier is ❤ , love that map can tag almost all legion
what areas/maps are good for farming splinters? this 'ish is taking so long...
Iceberg IIRC. The T2 map
But I've been doing Sulphur Vents/Ivory Somethingorother so I can do Syndicate/Temple cheaply at the same time
i did some sulpher yesterday, was decent. just need some wide open spaces
and doing 4 at once will unlock the new map device right?
That's what I've heard
Can confirm
Glacier is the best at farming splinters
is there a color coding for the army types? i keep going off in random directions
There is but three of them are shades of orange so it's not very easy. Basically Templars are green so very easy to recognise, Maraketh have dinosaurs so you can easily spot that rather than colour, and the other three you don't really care about recognising cause they're common
@jaunty mantle
ty vm
I’m digging the mechanics of the new league but I’m trying to figure out how to use these splinters, I’ve already got like... 80 something for these
ever heard about breachstones
@forest current when you get 100, they basically turn into a breach stone. You drop 2+ into the map device to start a war between the two factions and kill everyone for mad loot
Ohh, I thought I only needed one.
Thanks for the clarification, guys, as I don’t have maps yet and was curious how that worked honestly
can the 5th map slot be used for more than just the Legion 5 way fight? Like, can you use it to buff a map with 4 fragments now?
yh
started levelin zerker , 30m dps cyclone here i come
is ele hit deadeye good for full clearing monoliths? i want something that clears them that isnt ED or TS
Lightning trap saboteur
Throw traps as you touch monolith, throw vaal lightning traps in a cluster then go around and get the stuff with the icons
Working so far for me
Now full clearing depends on the map tho
The build is better on exterior maps or maps with not a shit tons of corridors
Yeah some layouts are just hopeless
But lightning traps is good with chain reaction you should be able to kill everything in an aoe around the trap
Fireball miner works too. Vaal blight is good as well.
so thats why vaal blight got so expensive
Thing you need to know with traps is that your damage is delayed so it can lead to some last second frustrations
Is there anywhere to sell and show the mods of timeless jewels? i have a pretty good one to sell but dont know how to get the information out there
Yea but that doesnt help with showing people the notables
i have a good brutal restraint
I got an incubator key
i have to kill 529 creatures
but im only at the prison
is it worth using it on a weapon this
early in the game
i'd recommend using it on a belt/ring or something you wont swap out before it is finished
but yeah use them
maraketh boss is bugged on maps right now right?
she disappears after her mount drops. no drops at all
R u killing her dismounted form?
if you do a 4 general fight in a group setting does everyone get their map device upgraded?
yes
do 5s count towards the upgrade
just out of curiosity
like i assume they would but you never know
any tips fighting aukana? Shes on another league comparing to other generals, heavy slowdowns, spammy ranged attacks and heavy hits on close combat, wondering how to make her less dangerous. Would kaom roots help with slowdowns? What type of damage she does?
does anyone know if maraketh boss can spawn in act areas?
marakeths spawn in maps only
for legion unique keystones, can you take it multiple times?
e.g. MoM and EE are within range of the jewel
is there an alternative to or fix for POB in order to calculate stats when using the new jewels?
how the hell should we price / share timeless jewels?
i've got 5 of them so far and neither is really that good for my build
thats the thing
wait 2/3 weeks
we will see if someone figure out how the fuck jewels works or if GGG will speak about them (like explaining their system)
@raw magnet they arent meant to be sold outside of god tier ones that get onto reddit. They have a base price based on cost to get, and people just want specific keystones from them (which is seeable by the item itself) other than that, no real way for people to get them sold for more value than others.
Also @violet nymph they intend for it to be a mystery. Chris said they purposely put the formula for how the jewels work on server side so players couldnt figure it out.
someone will
like all the games

and the community needs to gather to make a list of seeds and overall effect of each seed
after 2/3 weeks the list can be done
(hoping that the seeds are not randomly generated on each league lol)
You can't be sure in excluding bias/scam attempts
can legion mobs just drop any map they want? i'm somehow getting random t13's while inside my shaped toxic sewers, when i have a shaped atlas with no other t13's completed
Yo quick question: does the freeing of legion mobs give soul eater stacks? A quick search for soul eater here or on reddit didn't give an answer, i feel like it won't but i wanna know before i buy a zerphi's
you can try with soulthirst
So you need 100 shards of at least two factions to even start the real legion stuff? 2 weeks in and less than 25 of each
Only 1 maraketh
how im supposed to know if my jeweles are good if i dont have access to whole tree?
uhm
Edren do the league mechanic better, ehat do you want us to tell you
I got like 12 emblems done
And maraketh is at like 75
Free more mobs, run maps faster
Is there a ‘best’ combination of the armies, should I always save for 4-way or do I just use whenever?
the more emblems you use the higher level the zone is
better chances for the better loots
but you may get more profit just selling the emblems if you don't have pretty solid DPS
I'd at least make sure you do one 4-emblem domain to unlock the 5th map device slot
Yea I'd do one four way, and always sell the maraketh ones
As long as i don't have an optimized build for it
I feel like my build is pretty strong and I'm still not certain doing the 5 emblem is worth it
they are really chonky bois in there
I mean hh self curse soul eater strong
The bosses most of the time take too long to kill anyways
How much dps do you need to make it worthwhile? I’m cyclone
Ok I’m not too far off then I think, nice
~2m seems like a good amount for farming 4 emblem
~4m and up probably for 5 emblem
anyone that can tell me the cap on impale chance? is there any point going for more than 100%?
cap is 100%
thats what i thought, thanks!
do some encounter not have a lot of reward dudes/chest? just went through 7 maps with little reward
like 1 chest or 1-2 item/armor guys
How do you locate generals quickly in in regular legion breaches?
generals always spawn in the back ranks opposite each other
when you first crack it you'll see the line separating the two armies down the middle
run to each end perpendicular to that line
I usually make an arc to pick up some of the treasure mobs between the two points
Ah, my problem is I start moving as soon as I crack it and don't see the line
pretty much everything in the center of a monolith is worthless / XP
you know what DOTA's map looks like
just look at where the enemy colors change
Yes but what angle will the line be at? Random?
Will there be 2 generals Everytime?
no often there are 0
Ok
I have played a lot this league and only once have I had 2 generals in the same monolith
it's almost always either 0 or 1
Did you kill both?
ye
Nice
they're not as tanky in maps
yeah basically as soon as I touch a monolith I look for where the dividing line is
then dive to the back ranks
Do you reveal the map around it first before cracking?
Or just wing it to save time
What's your dps
well, they look at the opposing army
so you can instantly know where the backline would be
is supreme decadence bugged? any1 know ?
anyone playing soulrend ? How does it feel clearing legions ? Getting bored of ed/contagion
has anyone reversed the legion jewel mechanics yet?
