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pseudo hull
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ya dodge seems lame to me

violet nymph
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Some of the legion rares can hit for unmitigated 18-20k dmg

pseudo hull
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nice numbers

violet nymph
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Meaning if they get past dodge. You dead

lucid dagger
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If I'm doing a Cyclone Slayer for Legion, what's the best way to deal with the bandits?

violet nymph
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Crit or noncrit ? @lucid dagger

lucid dagger
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@violet nymph hmmm... what would I choose for either? haven't decided yet tbh

violet nymph
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Non-crit. Kill everyone.

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If crit, kill everyone for the 2 points or help the crit multi woman. Forgot her name.

lucid dagger
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@violet nymph ok thanks!

violet nymph
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He loses some inc damage, gains crit multi and crit chance, and lots more life?

pseudo hull
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ugh i hate that

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every tree going to that health node ring

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i think its really dumb

violet nymph
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Its just a really good wheel

pseudo hull
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dIveRsiTy

violet nymph
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Its called math. Wheel is good. People take good thing. Less rippy

pseudo hull
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oh u get doomcast

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i like that node

violet nymph
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Gets you crit and crit multi

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Also throatseeker is the same as heartseeker that you had near phase acro.

pseudo hull
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wouldn't another jewel socket be better than coldhearted calculation

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and the crit chance node next to it

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jewels are op as fk

violet nymph
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Left it cuz the mana regen as you dont have any sources of leech

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For mana

pseudo hull
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well i have CWDT clarity

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and later iguess i will get mana leech while affected by wrath watcher's eye

violet nymph
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Until then, its better to have consistency

pseudo hull
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u think i should buy a 1 ex ammy with crit multi and damage penetrates ele res

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might give me tons of damage

violet nymph
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Ima say it again. Defense before offense. If you are dead doesnt matter how much dps you have. I learned this during betrayal with blade vortex.

small mirage
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But if you have enough dps you kill them before they kill you

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300 iq

placid grotto
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Offscreen deaths still happen

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Those damn Vaal green things

violet nymph
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^^^^

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Also phased fights

lucid dagger
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what exactly should I be aiming/looking for when I pop a timeless monolith? I imagine it's not just simply hacking and slashing as much enemies as I can....

naive canopy
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its surviving after you hacked them ALL 😃

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generally you are in for many rares with nasty auras and proximity shields are very common (and annoying when lion's roar pushes them back)...

tranquil yoke
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Is the freeze and chill immunity on legion mobs intended?

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This shit is really annoying playing fb ice nova occultist...

wheat lava
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Is anyone having an issue with cyclone on 2 handed duelist? It keeps saying I'm in one place then it skips and puts me in another place.

copper kernel
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are you running hte game on predictive

wheat lava
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Predictive?

quartz dome
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Observation: Varunstra can use shockwave with sword/axe -only skills

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time to make some goofy ass varunstra build

kindred dagger
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WAIT i just realised but ED contagion build and maybe things like KB builds are insane in legion encounters !!!?

valid bloom
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so i have a bunch of breachsto- i mean emblems

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how do i open a portal to fight em?

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just put two of them on the map device maybe?

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i mean thats what it says on the tooltip but just curious how people get the 5 slot device

placid grotto
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You get a different map device once you beat the 4-army zone

pseudo hull
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so your edit to my tree made it 160% life

dry merlin
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is there any sort of index for the seeds of the jewels
any source of information on specific seeds that are valuable or good, etc?

pseudo hull
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@violet nymph iswitched my tree to yours

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still only have 4400 life 600 es...

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with 166% life from tree

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correction 4600 life 600 es

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build seems way worse

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without phase acrobatics and acrobatics

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sigh

leaden storm
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anyone know if rage ascendancy and rage gem is faster generation

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reddit doesn't have a decisive answer

languid path
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you mean if they stack?

leaden storm
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can you gain rage faster than 0.3s

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is my q

languid path
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there's no source of rage faster than 0.3s, but if you use rage support as a zerker then you will get 2 rages per attack every once in a while

leaden storm
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i just tested it

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hitting 1 pack

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2 rage

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basically every time

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i assume those hits are within .3s

languid path
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yeah as long as the cd match

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without rage support it's 15s to get max rage

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with rage support it's a little more than 8.5s

violet nymph
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@pseudo hull well for one, make sure you have like 75 flat life on all gear. 166% life won't do everything for you. You need flat as well

pseudo hull
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i still dont think that is enough if i have 6k hp but lose that 39% dodge i just get instantly oomed and cranked whenever i flame dash into any group of mobs

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seems really bad

violet nymph
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What tier map?

pseudo hull
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was a dark forest

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without any bad mods

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switched back to my tree and lost 700 hp or whatever but got my dodge back and was able to easily finish it

placid grotto
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I see a lot of people saying things like 3m DPS, 6m DPS. You don't need that much for 4 or 5 army fights right? Isn't a reasonable DPS about 200k-500k for Shaper?

violet nymph
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You want 2-3mil dps to be profitable @placid grotto

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If you take longer than 10 seconds to kill a boss, its taking too long.

placid grotto
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do they have 20-30m health?

violet nymph
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18-20mil hp

placid grotto
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each one is about as much as UElder?

violet nymph
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On the 5 army yeah

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On the 4 army they have like 11-15mil

placid grotto
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you kill each general once per go-around right?

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so that gets you to ~5 cycles then?

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assuming you're not limited by move speed

violet nymph
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You want 4-5 cycles yeah

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There is a loot limit. But unless you are a HH build, you arent reaching it

placid grotto
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hmm do the shards scale with map level? I don't think I saw much more in a yellow map vs white

violet nymph
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Tbh. No clue

placid grotto
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heh guess time for more experimentation

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hopefully I can work it into Syndicate once scarabs finish rising

undone anchor
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Hard to say because

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Let's say red maps have 20% more splinters

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Hard to eyeball it without a large sample size study

main wind
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How do raging spirits handle legion mechanics? Was planning to go with a build around them but was told they get slaughtered easily by the legions

gray horizon
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So, about those numbers, a dude told me that I should be dropping ED because it doesn't perform well in the army fights and cyclone gets much better results for less investment. Reaching 2-3mil DPS on ED is real hard, right?

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SRS cannot be targeted by monsters Tzeentch (all hail chaos BTW)

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They have been out of flavor for a long time now, I believe there are stronger alternatives for minions, even duration ones

main wind
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cool thanks

sullen oracle
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super glowy brain question: are "trigger" cooldowns affected by cooldown recovery if the recovery is from the quality bonus of the skill that was triggered

violet nymph
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No @sullen oracle

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only global cooldown recovery. So like on tree

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If a skill has cdr inbuilt. That doesnt affect other things.

versed dock
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@gray horizon I'm not sure on the statement that cyclone gets much better results for less investment, regarding the army fights atleast

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I haven't tried Cyclone myself yet so I can't confirm this 100% but looking around sites and POBs it feels like you atleast need a couple uniques that are quite expensive since everyone is playing Cyclone and outside of that some good rares to get your DPS up

violet nymph
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@versed dock ive seen people get over 1mil dps for cyclone with a 400dps 2h sword, and a tabula.

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Id say, the arguement is pretty fair

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400pdps swords 5-10c

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Pretty reasonable

ionic smelt
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i got 100% reduced reflected damage taken but why i'm still taking damage??

i have no elemental damage.... only physical build and

i get yugul 25%+sibyl's lament 40%(right)+elder based ring 18%+master of force20%

total 103% reduced reflected physical damage taken

anyone can help me with this? is this a bug?

versed dock
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You mean you are still taking damage from reflecting damage?

ionic smelt
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yes

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i can't run reflect physical damage map

night citrus
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Guys, what maps are good for eldering this league? UGS is fine packed as always, but layout is not great for legion encounters

proven wadi
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@midnight phoenix you mentioned a while back that phys trypanon isn't very good? Am I remembering right

midnight phoenix
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Yer

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I dont have much respect for any build that needs abyssus to not suck utterly

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That said it might be better now with earthquake having a shit ton of extra flat phys

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Trypanon vaal eq meme tier maybe

past badger
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Man i rly loved my eq juqq when i started this game

idle rose
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did ggg say anything about bleed explosions not working with legion enemies?

livid lake
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Yes it's intended

low kindle
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No explosions work on legion

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But they haven't confirmed that it's intended

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Bex said something about discussing it

violet nymph
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Herald of Ice works

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So its not that explosions dont work

low kindle
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It only works when unfreezing

violet nymph
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Which is when most others are failing

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At least from what ive seen

livid lake
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fairly sure they said bleedsplosions weren't going to work since league start.

violet nymph
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If HoI works. I see no reason for bleed explosions to not work

rugged shore
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What if they changed the monolith to work similiar to the Vaal outposts in Delve? IE you stand right beside the monolith instead of clicking it. It slowly charges up (think 1.5 - 3 seconds) and during that it sends out the trail like in the outposts, except these could be colour coded to each loot mob. You see a few blue trails - Armour in those directions, red - weapons, purple - there's a general on that side etc.

This way we get to kinda pick the loot we want "I'm grabbing all the red mob trails I saw". We can determine if there is a general or not, which army/side would be more profitable, rewards players not watching the minimap (since GGG doesn't like that). Still let's ED, Vaal ice nova, Vaal arc etc blow up the whole screen. But also let's people with less AOE builds pick and choose their loot, instead of randomly running around trying to get something.

violet nymph
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Would be decent for a core implementation. But they wont change it that much rn

rugged shore
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Yeah it would be a larger overhaul. I just can't think of anything that keeps in line with their vision but satisfies us players too.

rocky spade
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So I was skimming Reddit and read that Glad's explosion thing doesn't even proc off of legion mobs after they pop, is this true?

lean tundra
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Is it worth to run a 4way battle ? Templar's emblem is like 45c right now, I tempted to sell it and just run 3way

idle rose
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@rocky spade Yes, that's correct

fast spoke
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3 way or 5 way @lean tundra

lean tundra
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ok thanks !

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ah crap you need to do 4way at least once for the 5 slots device... well, no choice then

placid grotto
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Is it my imagination or do Legion rewards in maps (i.e. shards) not scale particularly hard in higher maps vs lower maps

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It feels like you get about 1.5x in red's vs whites

fast spoke
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sounds about right and kind of accurate

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You get more value with higher bases but in general the rewards don't scale up a huuuuuge amount between like 5-13

karmic palm
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what dps would be viable for an ed trickster to clear a 4 way conflict profitably?

fast spoke
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uh

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You likely won't reach it with an ED trickster if I'm being honest

karmic palm
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noted

lean tundra
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wow that was some shitty loot...

fast spoke
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ED is very safe and does a decent amount of damage

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but it's not really a speed-dps type thing generally

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which you really need with the bosses in a 5way

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you said 4 but you would typically do 3/5 for profit

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4 is just for unlocking the map

karmic palm
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how bout for 3?

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that would be vaal karui eternal empire right?

fast spoke
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You'd want at least around 1-1.5m for decent returns overall

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Yeah

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Generally those maps are bringing in profit on 3-5m+ dps builds

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nuking down and respawning as much as possible

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the standard big quant big damage with an aurabot ranger type thing

karmic palm
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yeah , i saw the video

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crazy XD

lean tundra
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what's a good dps for 5way to get it worth it ? without counting HH

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it's annoying to estimate dps with Impale on PoB though..

placid grotto
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I estimate Impale with a flat damage jewel and pre-calc the effective more damage

dusty umbra
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6-7m dps and i got 2 full bars of drops in 4-man

fast spoke
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^ 5m+ is where i'd put it

plush zealot
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tidebreaker cyclone stun?

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crit slayer

lean tundra
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ok, still some work to do then

placid grotto
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If you're looking for profit, I think you'd have better luck with Delve

dusty umbra
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Sometimes drops are shit even in decent dps 4man army

lean tundra
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I'll probably need to swtich to dual foil instead of exquisite

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seems that for the same price I have much more dps

fast spoke
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What build are you btw @dusty umbra

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big dick cyclone or arrowman

lean tundra
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well 1ex from 3way, that's nice

dusty umbra
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@fast spoke crit impale cycloneman

fast spoke
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nice

dusty umbra
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fps is crap but you can see the aprox number of drops/lootsplosion/how quickly generals die

lean tundra
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got a PoB on this one ?

dusty umbra
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import -> acc: simsons2 ->char: pointyspiny since im busy right now

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make sure to tick maim/frenzy/flasks/power charges/infusion as usual

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and x2 dps from impale since pob doesn't calculate

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duelyst area has timeless jewel that gives me bit of life and fortify effects but change is not huge

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@lean tundra

lean tundra
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yeah checkign it

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no fortify on links ?

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my bad, on the weapon

dusty umbra
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ya dont forget to tick has fortify

lean tundra
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damn

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I got a lot of workto reach that level...

dusty umbra
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timeless jewel gives me like 20% fortify effect few % life and something else i forgot

lean tundra
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still using a Bronn though, so I didn't look for a high dps weapon with fortify

steady bramble
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Link your Highest Elegant Hubris #! I got a 156300 one. Not seen a higher one yet

dusty umbra
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the chest isn't even 6L btw 😄

lean tundra
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jeez even with Devoto instead of Abyssus that's a solid 1.6m PoB

dusty umbra
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1.6m = 3.2m with impale

lean tundra
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yeah

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all flasks up, full life enable (for Daresso Salute) I'm only at 900k without counting Impale

plush zealot
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everything is so OP now lol

steady bramble
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tbh unless ure HC i'd just wear Abyssus.

lean tundra
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but the zoom zoom 😦

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okay so another exalt in less than 1h

placid grotto
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Does quant affect shard drops? Normal general drops like 5 shards. If you have +100quant, do you get 10?

weary mural
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Hey guys, ED + Cont or Cyclone can clear Timeless Conflict (Including bosses) better? If Cyclone, which class / build variant?

placid grotto
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I, too, would be interested in that

dusty umbra
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It would be pretty hard to take ED/Cont to 6m deeps imo

lean tundra
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yeah ED/Cont is good for monolith clearing, but not so much for Timeless Conflict

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for Cyclone, go pure phys with either Slayer or Champion, there are plenty of build on tihe forums

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I think 2H is easier to kickstart with, but dual weild good foils is better dps (and range)

placid grotto
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May be mistaken, but wouldn't Ahn's Might be good to save skill points? PoB shows it rather easily getting >2m

proven wadi
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It's a very good weapon

pale flicker
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@placid grotto I do Ahn's might dwield +pacifism and Oskarm's. Great crit multi and synthesizes with gladiator "10% increased physical damage while at max frenzy charges"

grave pike
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So when legion ends my legion character will just become standard character. it wont interfere with my other standard character?

placid grotto
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Correct

fast spoke
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You have 24 character slots base

placid grotto
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Unless you either have more map completion or Delve deeper in league

west fiber
placid grotto
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Then it overwrites standard

fast spoke
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This game isn't typically played as a "one character for everything" kind of build

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Most people play a few characters per league

grave pike
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It overrides just the map completion?

fast spoke
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Yeah it can

grave pike
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And delve

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But doesnt erase the character or anything

fast spoke
placid grotto
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Eh it heavily encouraged one character for everything until Syndicate/Delve changes

fast spoke
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?

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Meta builds typically are able to clear anything

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In general though, people play multiple characters through a league's duration

placid grotto
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Because you started fresh with each character and it takes a long time to get back into the cycle with Safehouses and depths

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On top of Campaign

fast spoke
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yeah

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I normally only do 2 per league

grave pike
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I kinda screwed up my cyclone build in league and wanna restart with mathils viper strike build

placid grotto
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Fortunately, they're working to reverse that

grave pike
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Wait you can access the stash from another legion character on a new character?

gusty bison
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Has anyone seen a write-up explaining the legion jewel mechanics?

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I keep seeing screenshots and I feel like I fundamentally am missing something

dusty umbra
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@gusty bison Some jewels add extra stats to notables (keystones always get changed completely), some timeless jewels makes some nodes do nothing small ones while notables change completely

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for example i'm using lethal pride karui/kilova which adds extra stat to notables im using and +4str extra on every small node

gusty bison
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Where/how do you aquire them? Drops from the event?

dusty umbra
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yes from emblem fights similar to breachstone thingy in map device

gusty bison
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:(

dusty umbra
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the number you see on them is basically seed of random passives you get or added

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they are completely random and we don't know what seed does add which change to which node that's why for now best thing is to buy combination you need of X jewel since you know what changes it could possibly make and then diving them until it changes notables to what you want

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unless you're buying it only for Keystone change that we know which jewel does change to which keystone

vapid jackal
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Do we have any idea what the # ranges do for the historic jewels?

violet nymph
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Not in the slightest. Due to us not having enough info to derive that

valid bloom
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where do timeless jewels drop? i got none from a 2 way battle so just wondering

dusty umbra
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we got one twice in 4man ones

sacred spruce
primal garnet
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is there a list or cheat sheet explaining what the corrupted keystones like Strength of Blood or Tempered By War actually do? Having trouble finding descriptions

violet nymph
primal garnet
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ah, ty so much

runic trellis
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ehow much time do you get for all 5 of the emblems

violet nymph
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5:15 roughly

dry merlin
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does anybody know how you end the monolith timer early and make what you've broken out come to life

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i've done it on accident a few times but cant recreate it

copper kernel
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when you free everything

dry merlin
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interesting i could have sworn it has happened when I wasnt done before

haughty estuary
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I hate that these fuckers dont freeze

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gunna have to change up my build i think

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was GH

wild arch
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I saw someone mention that the regular dash makes you invulnerable during it, can anyone confirm? marauderthinking

midnight phoenix
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It has a few iframes

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U can bug the game out with it

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If ur dashing in the middle of an incursion transition back to the map u will get stuck in the incursion

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Like its a very short time period tho

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Cant be more than a few frames

grand prawn
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So legion worth playing? I mean, for extra juicy stuff

violet nymph
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If you arent getting lag. Definitely

next magnet
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legion vendor havnt seen any in this league yet?

violet nymph
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There isnt one as far as i know

next magnet
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alright there should be in the acts if there were

violet nymph
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Yeah. Im pretty sure no vendor

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Everything you need from legion is either emblems or drops. And both come from the monoliths

next magnet
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oke np and the timeless once u have 100 its just put them in the map thing like xophs realm ?

violet nymph
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2 or more

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Unlike breachstones

next magnet
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uh well i mean the emblems ofc and not the spilnters

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but the meaning in open one is the same like breachstones

violet nymph
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Yeah , you put 2 or more emblems together. Unlike breachstones. Which is just one

next magnet
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yeah seems nice

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any good way to farm the spilnters

violet nymph
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Been hearing glacier is pretty good.

next magnet
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ah oke

violet nymph
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Cant say for sure how good these farming strats are

next magnet
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might going youtube there most be something

violet nymph
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Tbh, its just open layout, have good aoe. Get splinters

next magnet
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ah oke i do ice crash unarmed build .D

red jackal
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do I need to clear all mobs in timeless conflict to always respawn all bosses or do they all have internal cds?

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and anything fatal I need to expect when fighting the maraketh boss?

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I don't want to recast 5 auras :D

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Generals have a ~30s cooldown after they're killed before they can be respawned.
aight

wary coyote
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chadinal vox was the only dangerous one imo

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general rule you can follow to pretty much never get hit there

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never backtrack

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keep moving

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the most fatal thing about maraketh bitch is her mount explodes but not in timeless conflict I think

patent canyon
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vox is not dangerous at all if you stay on top of him. but the is the most annoying with his stupid immunity phases spam

midnight phoenix
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Vox is super tanky

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He doesnt do anything tho

low kindle
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impure filth

runic trellis
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goddamn those legion chests ae exalt drropperrs

placid grotto
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How's the XP for a 5-army? Seems to be about the same price as a pure Chayula breachstone

runic trellis
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you need a lot of damage to do a 5 army

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i have 2mil dps and was slow

placid grotto
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Cool so breachstones might still be the way to go

warm grotto
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What is monster level in a 3-way legion battle ?

runic trellis
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@placid grotto no legion loot is insane

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@warm grotto 75

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5 man is 84

warm grotto
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oh. Huh. Lower than I expected. I'm level 81 Ed/C trickster, will I be able to have a decent showing in 3-way you reckon ?

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think I have +/-21k ED tooltip

placid grotto
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@runic trellis I've been hearing that unless you specifically gear for Legion it's either mediocre or a net loss

runic trellis
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if you farm your own and use the three cheaper ones its been profitable for me @placid grotto however i tried the 5 man and i ended up crashing midway and not enough dps so it was a total loss

undone anchor
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i dont think doing 5s is worth without hh

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4s are fine

hallow torrent
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can someone ELI5 how lethal pride with Kaom works?

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my brain is too small

placid badge
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got vaal pyramid map

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omg omg

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3000 item rarity

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do i battle the vaal queen

runic trellis
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can headhunters drop from legion?

fast spoke
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yes

sour fox
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@hallow torrent https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strength_of_Blood is the Kaom keystone.
It prevents life leech from giving you any life.
Instead, it converts the percent of life you would be recovering per second into damage reduction for the duration of leech.
Normally, you are capped at leeching 20% of your max life per second. That would be converted to 10% less damage taken.
With Vaal Pact, you are capped at 40% of your max life per second. That would be converted to 20% less damage taken.
The "less" damage taken is multiplicative. If you have 75% fire resist and take 20% less damage from a fire attack, that's the equivalent of 80% fire resist.
This sounds really good if you combine with life on hit.

Path of Exile Wiki

Strength of Blood is a keystone passive skill which disables Recovery from Life Leech while granting 1% less Damage taken for every 2% Recovery per second from Life Leech.

hallow torrent
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@sour fox wow thanks!!!

runic trellis
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does a biscos affect monsters frrom legion

daring sparrow
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Hi guys, im looking for an aurabot for emblem farming, hmu if u are interessted

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Im 90% sure item quant doesn't affect legion mobs

violet nymph
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Strength of blood jugg ms

low kindle
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Is it always active or only when you "leech"

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Unclear

fast spoke
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only when you would be leeching

gray moon
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if every timeless jewel is different, how in the world do we know what one of them does if we want to buy one

fast spoke
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get other person to screenshare with disc and show you realistically

gray moon
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seems very... inefficient

fast spoke
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These jewels aren't really designed to be traded or explored efficiently

gray moon
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where do they drop?

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only in league breachstones?

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i mean legion

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legionstones

placid grotto
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Even if you self- farm the shards, I think you're still better selling the shards instead of running them. It's 140ish c to get all 5 emblems... But you can sell shards for a little below 200c. To make equivalent profit running them, you'd have to get >350c (since ~150c is used to buy the emblems)

runic trellis
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if you run the cheapest 3 for 25 chaos total you get 2 1/2 minutes if i dont get anything good i break even on the least

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like i said its all about dps and killing the nodes and reseting as fast as possible

placid grotto
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What's your standard return on 3 armies? That's level 75ish right?

fast spoke
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it's 75 yeah and I normally make bare minimum 15ex per run

placid grotto
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Whoa really?

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That blows everything I've heard out of the water

fast spoke
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Nah sorry I've only run one 3- and I got lucky

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felt like trolling and it landed here

placid grotto
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Lol

fast spoke
#

placid grotto
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What got you to 15?

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Single item?

fast spoke
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Normal returns are weighted pretty heavily on your dps

placid grotto
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Yeah, I'll agree clear speed is pretty vital

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But it's how much loot scales with it

fast spoke
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I got a 6L 'bater that gave me a bronn's for 6ex and I got a nice foil with t2/t2 phys and hybrid that went for just under 9 after some messing

placid grotto
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Ah

fast spoke
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so really it was like

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40c and some luck on a drop

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since the incubator isn't something I'd typically count

patent canyon
#

i'd say it scales exponentially with damage

fast spoke
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I'd tend to agree but say that it's less exponential and more quadratic

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You're gated by the respawn minimums for the bosses

patent canyon
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i did few 3 way battles with support and out of those 3 avg returns were like 70c from raw drops

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if you can kill them faster than their timer and actually grab some rares on the way it also helps

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2 players can actually do them really well especially with support

fast spoke
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Yeah my wife is playing bane atm so basically a curse support

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works out reasonably well

placid grotto
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Interesting. So the next bar is more rewarding than the previous?

fast spoke
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Not really, you just get so much more stuff that you get more valuable stuff

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It's all about rolls on the dice

languid path
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ideally you would want to only kill generals and reset

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but that would require an absurb amount of dps

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to get enough loot in 5 mins

placid grotto
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Ah gotcha. Thought you meant it climbed rarity tiers

fast spoke
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You can't only kill generals and reset though because of their minimum spawn timers

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So you just kill everything

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I normally have to reset 2-3x before generals come back

karmic bay
#

Man how are ya supposed to price these damn jewels

fast spoke
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You're not 😃

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For real though, you'd figure out how good it is in as many spots as you can, then market it via reddit or trade discord etc

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Then screenshare to prove that it's the right jewel etc

karmic bay
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Guess its time to gear up a scion lol

fast spoke
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You only need level 87 to spec a scion to every jewel node

karmic bay
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Wut

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In pob i got 88 and missing 2 slots

fast spoke
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You can have every jewel socket in the tree at 87, did you take ascendancies?

karmic bay
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oh

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I did not

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Even with ascendancy i get all sockets @ 92

fast spoke
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I don't have the tree on me, but it's possible at 87 for sure

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92 isn't terrible either though

karmic bay
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I kinda like it tho, that ya need to put some effort in it

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Or risk scamming yourself

waxen spire
#

How hard is a 4 way solo?

fast spoke
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easy, profit is the hard part with these

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You'll likely be able to survive and "clear" it just fine

midnight phoenix
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A 4 way is like a colossal tier 12 monolith with no map mods that u clear for 3 minutes straight

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If u wouldnt die to a monolith in a tier 12 white map u prolly wouldnt die to the 4 way

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The generals are tanky tho so if ur dps sucks just run to middle and skip them

wanton flower
#

Is there somewhere that the symbols above mobs are detailed in a cheat sheet or key? Can’t find anything on google or reddit.

dusty umbra
#

before i go to sleep if any of u got maraketh emblem we can do 5man army

steep hollow
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So, I still haven't used any of my splinters this league. I have enough to do a 3-way, but only 59 templar and 13 maraketh shards. Is it better to save until you have all five?

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Can you still get the jewels in small battles?

dusty umbra
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@steep hollow for 5man you need really good dps

quaint saddle
#

is there a Roc Sentinel in the Lunaris Concourse? or am i being tricked by a legion challenge

steep hollow
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So i assume 131k in sand stance isn't good enough?

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@dusty umbra

pulsar nexus
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if i farm only the monolith does it worth to chisel the map for max quant or quant of the map dont work on legion monster?

junior scarab
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does the leech bug happen even if i don't use bloodrage?

cosmic prairie
#

hey what we can get more doing the 5 boss legion encounter than we can get doing the 4 boss encounter ? just more loot or specific good stuff ?

fair ore
valid bloom
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how to farm timeless jewels?

low kindle
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Do emblem fights

valid bloom
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how many required minimum tho

low kindle
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2

valid bloom
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and there's a chance for timeless jewel to drop?

low kindle
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Yes

valid bloom
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aight fair enough

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thanks

low kindle
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But it grows rapidly with more emblems

valid bloom
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awesome

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i got one already

violet nymph
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this reckoning gladiator build is gonna be fucking sick

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clear won't be that great but i'll more or less never die, and do a trillion damage to whatever i get close to

misty phoenix
#

Cyclone build should be decent in clearing legions right? whatYouDidThere

rare root
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Yeah it's pretty decent

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Shame the haemophilia doesn't work on them though. And the increased aoe when killing

gusty bison
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Any suggestions on pricing these jewels?

patent canyon
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level a scion to see what jewel does on entire tree than contact streamer to advertise your jewel then create forum thread with vouch and video proof from that streamer then finally price accordingly on trade site 🙃

misty phoenix
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exaltThink instructions were unclear, jewel stuck in you know what

normal kraken
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is the effect of a jewel on a particular node the same when socketed in different spots?

violet nymph
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No

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As far as we know*

cyan yacht
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What's the best way to do the domain of timeless conflict? I just got enough emblems, should I wait till I get five? I've got three.

rare root
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You can only do 4 first time, which then unlocks the 5th slot in map device

quiet geyser
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@cyan yacht speed clear build with hh :^)
Less then 3 bars of rewards is no profit.

sinful hazel
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New meme build. Zerker Big Ball PePE

misty phoenix
#

Is this fire from the sky prophecy good? Got drops of it

And what does this u will defeat fidelas while holding storm cloud means, I just killed him in act 2 and nothing happened.

Both drops from legion

runic trellis
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IN THE LEGION BOSS FIGHT SHOULD YOU CLEAR ALL PERRR WAVE OR ONLY GOOD NODES

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whoops ignore caps

fast spoke
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focus bosses

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kill other shit on your way

somber sequoia
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I have an ed trickster and a reave berserker, same lvl. Which is better against a 4 way legion boss?

normal kraken
#

btw it does seem like a jewel has the same effect on the same nodes no matter where it is socketed

fast spoke
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yeah the seed impacts your whole tree the same way from any socket

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it just allows you to access the parts it's touching

placid badge
#

how do you use base shaaper items

fast spoke
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?

placid badge
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what does multi mod recepie mean?

blissful onyx
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You can craft multiple mods onto an item

placid badge
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can it be sold?

quiet geyser
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Difine sold?

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You can give someone else a wepaon and they can craft it on there and give you your weapon back

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That is called a service

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Be carefull who you choose because you could get scammed

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And its 2 ex

placid badge
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I see

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thats true

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hmm

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thanks

craggy glen
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any1 can recommend a build for farmign 4 emblem fights? (pref with guide, poe.ninja link)

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budget ~ 25ex

violet nymph
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Probably trickster essence drain/contagion

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Won't cost that much though

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Using eber's unification and a +3 chaos staff

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I'd say 10-15ex will get you top end for that build

undone anchor
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no.... just play a cyclone build

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way more single target dps

violet nymph
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Oh right lol

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Emblem fights

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For some reason i read that as splinter farming

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Best single target is gonna be champion cyclone with a +2 impale pride eye

spark lake
#

@undone anchor that would be slayer then, the extra aoe will help you clear random rares with loot on them

ripe frigate
#

Are the 3.7.2 patch changes going to make gladiator's bleed explosion work on frozen mobs?

low kindle
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Supposedly

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Wait, frozen mobs?

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No

ripe frigate
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Not frozen mobs- I mean the legion statues

low kindle
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I get that

violet nymph
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how do I figure out how to price a timeless jewel?

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is there a site that shows changes, and are they in pob?

languid path
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no, just gotta figure out the nodes in the game then market it yourself

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put a price on it and put into the notes 80% crit multi 50% life yada yada

light hatch
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how do you get timeless jewels?

languid path
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random drop from timeless domain, some people also claim it can drop from regular legion

light hatch
#

am I better off running 4 at once or running two assuming I can handle them?

languid path
#

just run whichever you can clear the most efficient

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the jewels themselves aren't that expensive if you wanna just buy one and divine them yourself

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except for the maraketh one

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so it doesn't matter how many you put in as long as you get a few bars worth of loots

light hatch
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thanks

placid grotto
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How much are Maraketh shards/emblems gonna spike? Place your bets chaosthinking

gusty bison
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Is there a place I can see all the versions of the corrupted keystones?

lament dagger
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You mean spike downwards?

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Def not gonna be 80 exalts that's for sure

uncut saffron
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Guys, I'm a busy man, I mean, I got life and job.. but playing as much as can, and I only have 71 MARAKETH splinters while having others in numbers like 250-300

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is that normal ?

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is it ok ?

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I found myself playing maps only to find legion, kill legion and quit

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😃

minor oyster
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Yes that's normal to have way less maraketh, it's like chayula

violet nymph
uncut saffron
#

is Brutal Restraint that good ?

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or just that rare ?

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I own other jewels but not Brutal Restraint

violet nymph
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Irs bugged @uncut saffron

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People are trying to sell them off before patch drops

uncut saffron
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rly ?

violet nymph
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Cuz patch drops and fixes the bug

uncut saffron
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ok...

violet nymph
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They are rarer than a mirror rn

uncut saffron
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I play in guild, my friends have many timeless jewels

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but

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nobody has Brutal Restraint yet

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LOL 😃

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and we are like 100+ ppl in guild

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ofc not everyone is playing etc

violet nymph
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Yeah, cuz the only way to get it isnt from the domain of timeless conflict

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Its bugged so you can only get it from the monoliths boss spawns

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Which are hella rare

uncut saffron
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omg

violet nymph
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And even then its only a small chance

uncut saffron
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so it's gonna get fixed ?

violet nymph
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Yup

uncut saffron
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I'm so glad

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nice !

grave gulch
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Do u have any source for that

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Ah nvm its in the notes

gusty bison
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for the timeless boss who channels that big beam and has statues around him.... is there a way to dps him during channel?

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Keeps recharging shield :/

copper kernel
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i dont think so

eager terrace
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you have to get close to the statues

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it will activate them and make them killable

gusty bison
#

ty

rocky vine
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Question, when you have a historic gem in and it takes over 2 of the bigger nodes (Like MoM and EE) if you have both allocated, do you get the effects twice?

eager terrace
#

no, you can only gain a keystone once

rocky vine
#

Allocating it does nothing then, right?

eager terrace
#

yeah it is a wasted skill point to have both

rocky vine
#

That sucks, thought I'd do some foolishness w/ Hierophant for a minute

marble quest
#

imagine quartering your resists but taking all of cold and lightning as fire

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and then taking... another 62% phys as fire

west fiber
#

when you wake up and want to play with the new patch (#perfect-timing)

oblique glade
#

Does anyone know if divine flesh stacks?

midnight phoenix
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Keystones never ever ever stack

oblique glade
#

okey, thanks 😃

low kindle
#

So how does bladestorm work with multistrike?
Is the storm damage based on the damage of the original hit or do they do 1-2-3 as well?

livid lake
#

maybe it makes a storm for each hit

low kindle
#

Well no shit

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But what damage do they do

dull epoch
#

is infused channeling still bugged

runic trellis
#

did they nerf legion drops?

lament dagger
#

i thought they fixed the infused channeling bug

sharp wind
#

They fixed some, broke others.

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Standard patch.

blissful onyx
#

They added elder vises back tho

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👌

sharp wind
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Broke tailwind.

copper kernel
#

they probably did not

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why bother disabling it

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then justl eaving it in

severe dirge
#

does wed benefit her embrace as much as it does for other things?

minor oyster
#

Should

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Especially if you are converting physical as well

severe dirge
#

think my only conversion is herald of ash

patent canyon
#

ash is not conversion

severe dirge
#

oh so it isnt

#

is there a chest that would work well with oni goroshi that has conversion?

marble quest
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dont think theres any chests no

leaden storm
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loreweave

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flat phys, elemental, crit

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additionally shroud of the lightless

marble quest
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i mean i assumed they were asking about chests that converted but yeah those are good in general

charred totem
#

Where/How do I find out corpse life at X level?

shy crest
#

What do the number of coins mean on Timeless Jewels?

placid grotto
#

That's part of the seed IIRC. Method to identify them

low kindle
#

By the way, what happened to the idea of warstaves and rune daggers?

patent canyon
#

staves were tried out for crafting

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and daggers... remains dead af

somber helm
#

Timeless jewel keystones can't stack if you get double right..?

#

I assumed not but this guy on Reddit is saying you can stack 2 supreme ego?

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Has anyone tested?

low kindle
#

You can't stack any keystone

somber helm
#

That's what I assumed, wonder what he means then

low kindle
#

By the way, the lioneye jewel now also catches a 4 point dagger cluster with phasing on kill

steep meteor
#

Is the legion mechanic the best way to farm currency? or is there a better way?

patent canyon
#

flipping is always best way

steep meteor
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Sorry kinda new to poe

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what is flipping?

proven wadi
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Being a merchant

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Buy thing that is cheap, upgrade item with low effort, sell for more than the upgrade cost

steep meteor
#

damn so crafting

patent canyon
#

or reselling currency for more than you bought for

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in mass quantities

proven wadi
#

That one is more like the stock market

steep meteor
#

and that is the best way to make currency this league?

patent canyon
#

every league

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and will always be best way

placid grotto
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Legion in maps is a pretty good way to make currency in my experience. It pairs nicely with Syndicate and Incursion spamming

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And I suspect Maraketh or General creates a minor lagspike so you have an idea if they're in the map

steep meteor
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Yeah but how do farm efficiently , syndicate had the bridge method

placid grotto
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Buy Lost Maps prophecies to get a bunch of T1 maps. Open an instance. If it's above the given Latency threshold, rush to encounters. Otherwise, open a new map

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This league is really good for it IMO. Sulphur Vents, Haunted Mansion, and Ivory Temple have good layouts and consistent times

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Last league only had 1 really good map (Alleyways)

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You can expect one encounter every few minutes... I'm getting a set of 3 safehouses every hour on average. Though it's a shame Sulphite Scarabs are taking their time to rise

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Here are my notes if it's useful to you

steep meteor
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thasnk!

placid grotto
#

Might have had permissions messed up. But that should be viewable

fast spoke
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I don't expect sulphite scarabs to rise when you can get >100 gilded scarabs in half an hour of mapping

placid grotto
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Can you? Wasn't sure how common they actually are, given that currently there Scarabs are at about 70% of where they were last league at this time

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I've been crediting it to the time it takes to go deep in delve

fast spoke
placid grotto
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Right

fast spoke
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You use this and spam the possess prophecy while you're in the map

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ending the torment and forceful exorcism

placid grotto
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Yes but there are 11 Scarabs. I'd expect them to be more suppressed across the board

nimble sun
#

is there no change in the drops of legion? i feel like there was a tweak, been farming low lvl map legion for couple days, maybe im just unlucky todaay,,, but the splinter gain ratio is pretty low today

placid grotto
#

Chris is in the control room laughing maniacally while turning the dial to mess with people

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But seriously, they wouldn't say in all likelihood

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They can modify it without a patch; see changes to map drops last league

nimble sun
#

true D: well its unfortunate haha strand was rockin

toxic ridge
#

I added Timeless Jewel support to http://poeskilltree.com/. You can shift click a jewel socket to select the jewel then shift click the nodes change their stats

placid grotto
#

Oh that's cool!

toxic ridge
#

I plan on hooking it up to a database at some point to start collecting jewel information

mossy meadow
#

why is it that when i die in hc legion , i dont get downgraded to regular legion and not standard?

wet plaza
#

simple answer: ggg said so. Slightly longer answer: they dont want that hc stuff gets dumped into trade sc

shy dagger
#

Are legion mobs supposed to attack you while the timer is going and they're "frozen in time"

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Because i keep dying to random legion attacks like weird arcing projectiles or fireballs while trying to break them out

silver kettle
#

Nemesis mods on rare legion enemies still function while they're frozen

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Idk whether it's intended but it's definitely something you have to watch out for

fast spoke
#

Yeah that's the only way I've died recently, mostly to lightning mirage while I stand still for a sec grabbing the first few splinters

shy dagger
#

Legion tend to have a lot of on death effects that follow you around

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making picking up splinters a fun time

safe fern
#

Finally did my first Domain of Eternal Conflict. After 50 hours /played I've finally assembled two stones. It was.. underwhelming? 2.5 minutes of killing mobs, a dumb reset mechanic, and mediocre loot.

#

I want to like this, I really do. It feels like the drop rate on the emblem shards needs to be 5x bigger or something.

placid grotto
#

I'm just selling my shards TBH

#

Seems you get much more out of it that way. Price them something like x/20 so you're not constantly getting pinged

jaunty mantle
#

stupid question - how do you go from 100 splinters to an emblem?

placid grotto
#

I think you right click it in your inventory

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And restack

jaunty mantle
#

hmm, nothing.

#

ahh! split, restack

safe fern
#

If you're buying, shards are way more expensive than 1% of an emblem

jaunty mantle
#

i figured. better to just buy the whole thing in the end

placid grotto
#

Except Maraketh... But that will likely correct itself in a day or two

midnight phoenix
#

Basically the emblems are only worth atm if ur clearing REALLY fast

#

HH is 100ex for a reason

jaunty mantle
#

i think i'm too much of a filthy casual to get too deep into this lol

placid grotto
#

Should I feel bad for selling ilvl 68 incubators? Is there a difference between that and ilvl 83 incubators?

carmine fiber
#

best way to profit from legion is to sell the emblems

#

the timeless conflicts kinda meh

lament dagger
#

Yes ilvl83 have better rewards generally

#

Depends on the incubators

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But like you are morr likely to get a gilded Scarab if it's high level incubator

#

Based on what the big mapper guys are saying

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So they are all transitioning to either speed legion farming maps or t16 elders

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There doesn't seem to be a middle ground when it comes to profiting

undone anchor
#

did they boost the droprate of jewels

lament dagger
#

The enabled the maraketh jewel

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It wasnt dropping in conflicts before

tiny flint
#

Anyone know how indigon and agnostic (militant faith) interact?

#

Is it just insane ramp up with the mana drain?

low kindle
#

Sacrificing mana is not spending

wicked oriole
#

so im fairly new to legion mechanics and im looking at the new jewels

#

whats a good jewel base for trapper builds?

languid path
wicked oriole
#

i dont exactly understand the wiki so im asking here

languid path
#

should have all you need

wicked oriole
#

thanks m8

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(:

low kindle
#

so

#

since when is maw of conquest not restricted to hits only

patent sequoia
#

Is there a specific tactic for Legion monoliths?

#

Or is it just to kill as many things as possible before the timer expires?

undone anchor
#

uh

#

other than going for the generals

#

not really

patent sequoia
#

Alright, I figured it was pretty straightforward like that, but just thought I'd see if there was anything special to do

next epoch
#

overall this is a pretty straightforward kind of league

wet plaza
#

yes if not ts hh dont bother running legion encounters :^)

undone anchor
#

or just

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play ssf

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and not worry about it

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: )

sharp wind
#

We need a smart cast like lol has for our toolbar, so we can set when we want to animation cancel. PoE queuing up 2 flame dashes and you stay where you began is annoying.

wet plaza
#

its cooler if you just flame dash 3 screens away

#

or get stuck at the wall against bosses

sharp wind
#

not so much where you need to flame dash and 2 charges go off and you still at your stating place.

eager terrace
#

I haven't double dashed since the patch

sharp wind
#

did it countless times last night

languid path
#

it was a pile of trash feelssadman

eager terrace
#

rip my fellow non-HH ethical gamer

wet plaza
#

want to do mine to today

#

no high hopes

inland summit
#

So, found a cool legion clear build thats not cyclone or ED. SRS -> 20, flesh offering, vaal arc + vaal haste. They literally delete most of the radius if you stand still until 12-13 are left. Then dash/charge to wherever the srs didnt focus and finish up. At the end of freeze I pop vaal skeletons for defense. Pretty satisfying.

wet plaza
#

fireball (mines) work nicely too

low kindle
#

Fireball mines wtf

wet plaza
#

its gud

#

add fork from the snakepit ring and its gooder

inland summit
#

Fork and sire is pretty good

#

Left my build at lv 53~ when I switched to srs

lament dagger
#

how hard is the 5 way encounter?

#

like if I can do shaper comfortably (but not like insta phase him) can I still do it without using up my portals?

#

I dont need it to be profitable or anything, I just need to experience it/beat it

proven wadi
#

I think clear speed is more the issue than portals for most people

#

Idk about difficulty though. Like how much damage they hit you with

languid path
#

health wise the templar guy is at least twice as tanky as shaper in my experience

lament dagger
#

wtf lmfaooo

languid path
#

the other 4 is as tanky, but the maraket you have to kill her twice

lament dagger
#

well if the guy just stands there its not as bad

#

cuz Shaper like teleports around, heals in between phases and stuff making fight longer

#

so if I can just stand there and DPS him down I could kill him erasonable time

#

the Templar that is

eager terrace
#

the 5 way encounter is not that dangerous

#

it's just high health

#

the only thing is you want to be healthy enough to be able to dive templar boss

#

to get rid of statues

#

if you just want to survive for the challenge, you can ignore him really

#

all of them definitely have more HP than shaper

#

maybe lioneye is around shaper HP

#

@lament dagger

lament dagger
#

what about time limit

#

is that a big factor or nah?

eager terrace
#

the timer counts down, not up

#

you have 5 mins to kill as much as you can

lament dagger
#

so you cant "fail" it?

eager terrace
#

only if you lose all portals before the timer runs out

lament dagger
#

oh ok

eager terrace
#

but it's an expensive thing to do without killing generals

lament dagger
#

well yea

eager terrace
#

but really so long as you kill a couple rounds of generals you'll get a little money back

#

have you fought all the generals in maps yet?

lament dagger
#

yes

#

I have killed them easily

#

red maps

eager terrace
#

so you know how to get rid of templar statues

lament dagger
#

i havent fought the templar dude

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I have fought the other ones

eager terrace
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he's the one you need to know the most imo

lament dagger
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but like... I kill them fast enough where I dont get a readon on their mechanics

eager terrace
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he has like two versions of divine ire

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one where he puts up statues around him while he fires the beam

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he is invul so long as there are statues

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if you touch the statues though they "activate" and you can destroy them

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he's already the tankiest so if you don't do this he will take ages to kill

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tbh his jewel is wack I think so maybe just ignore him entirely

valid bloom
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hmm... im impale bladestorm. this timeless jewel i have gives me 10% increased fortify effect, +5% str and a total of 10% increased maximum life. is it good?

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it's a 300+ hp increase

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before this jewel i was using another timeless jewel but that one has a total of 10% phys damage is taken as fire damage and 10% reduced damage taken from critical hits

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which one is better in you guys opinion? i feel as if the one that gives a better fortify and 300 hp is just way better

lament dagger
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10% increased max life on a jewel is pretty damn good

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5% str is solid too

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10% of phy damage taken as fire is damn strong

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its not that easy of a choice

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but I would still take 10% increased life in the end

valid bloom
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but i'd have to spend 3 nodes to get to it

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i dont have intimidate in my build so this could be very good

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lust for carnage has this chunky 20% increased damage too...

wet plaza
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lust isnt worth it but diamon skin is a thing i'd get then

fast spoke
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Yeah I'd take diamond skin for intim

valid bloom
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Thats fair. But i still cant make up my mind about 10% physical damage taken as fire damage

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so basically, one jewel has [10% phys dmg taken as fire, 10% reduced damage taken from critical hits and 20% increased melee damage] while other jewel gives [10% increased fortify effect, 5% increased strength, 10% maximum life and 10% chance to intimidate].

fast spoke
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of those I'd likely take #2

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but they're close

valid bloom
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First jewel leaves me with a node extra

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Going over damage mechanics it seems the samage taken as fire is a big mitigation

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I have 6.7k hp with first jewel and 6.9k hp with second jewel

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Im guessing phys to fire is helpful with bosses

eager terrace
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it's helpful more with legion imo

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lots of physical to contend with

valid bloom
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Hm

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I guess there is one more big part with second jewel

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It gives +20% all res

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Which means i can drop suffixes from gear

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I will go with second jewel.

fast spoke
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phys taken as fire is very strong

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but the second jewel is juicy

leaden storm
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tbh regular bosses are a joke compared to t16 legions

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most bosses are just manually dodged

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or blown up in <5s

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i guess planning on the 5 way battle is the true goal

true bridge
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Is there a list of where all of the new divination cards from this league drop?

real plinth
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speaking of legion battles. how worth is a 2 way battle? given how often you drop vaal and imperial splinters i get way more of those. could i run them for a chance at a jewel still?

true bridge
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I got an imperial jewel from my first 2-way battle but I think the drop rate is a lot higher the more emblems you add, it's kind of a gamble either way but they definitely drop in the 2-faction version

real plinth
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perfect, that is basicly only what i needed to know as selling those things for 5-7c didnt seem remotly fun

gray moon
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you could just farm 3 way battles

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cost efficient compared to doing 4 or 5 way as you buy the cheapest emblems

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vaal + eternal + karui

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24c per run

placid grotto
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GGG said the intention was for 3-4-5 battles to be progressively more valuable

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However, no idea how it is once you add in costs

spice cipher
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my splinter rng is the worst

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everything else, golden. but splinters are so bad for me. into farming yellow maps and still not a full stack

hazy halo
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Anyone have the 150 tag challenge ? Me and a friend are trying to get it but cant figure out how

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Are there always 150 mobs or is it rng?

placid grotto
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For splinters, I've found it best to ignore 90% and rush to the back line

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That's where the general and/or warstash are

patent canyon
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not always

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in shitty maps like necropolis there might not be or might be impossible to tag in time

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just do open and easy map for those like beach, glacier

spice cipher
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glacier is ❤ , love that map can tag almost all legion

placid grotto
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What T1 is Glacier with?

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Desert?

jaunty mantle
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what areas/maps are good for farming splinters? this 'ish is taking so long...

placid grotto
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Iceberg IIRC. The T2 map

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But I've been doing Sulphur Vents/Ivory Somethingorother so I can do Syndicate/Temple cheaply at the same time

jaunty mantle
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i did some sulpher yesterday, was decent. just need some wide open spaces

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and doing 4 at once will unlock the new map device right?

placid grotto
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That's what I've heard

silver kettle
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Can confirm

lament dagger
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Glacier is the best at farming splinters

jaunty mantle
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is there a color coding for the army types? i keep going off in random directions

silver kettle
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There is but three of them are shades of orange so it's not very easy. Basically Templars are green so very easy to recognise, Maraketh have dinosaurs so you can easily spot that rather than colour, and the other three you don't really care about recognising cause they're common

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@jaunty mantle

jaunty mantle
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ty vm

mortal vale
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swirling fear left?

forest current
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I’m digging the mechanics of the new league but I’m trying to figure out how to use these splinters, I’ve already got like... 80 something for these

low kindle
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ever heard about breachstones

jaunty mantle
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@forest current when you get 100, they basically turn into a breach stone. You drop 2+ into the map device to start a war between the two factions and kill everyone for mad loot

verbal sable
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Whats good gear to run 5way TS without HH

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Have helm enchant already

forest current
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Ohh, I thought I only needed one.

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Thanks for the clarification, guys, as I don’t have maps yet and was curious how that worked honestly

violet nymph
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can the 5th map slot be used for more than just the Legion 5 way fight? Like, can you use it to buff a map with 4 fragments now?

patent canyon
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yh

dusty umbra
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started levelin zerker , 30m dps cyclone here i come

icy steppe
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is ele hit deadeye good for full clearing monoliths? i want something that clears them that isnt ED or TS

tough vigil
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Lightning trap saboteur

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Throw traps as you touch monolith, throw vaal lightning traps in a cluster then go around and get the stuff with the icons

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Working so far for me

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Now full clearing depends on the map tho

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The build is better on exterior maps or maps with not a shit tons of corridors

icy steppe
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Yeah some layouts are just hopeless

tough vigil
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But lightning traps is good with chain reaction you should be able to kill everything in an aoe around the trap

wet plaza
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Fireball miner works too. Vaal blight is good as well.

daring tulip
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so thats why vaal blight got so expensive

tough vigil
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Thing you need to know with traps is that your damage is delayed so it can lead to some last second frustrations

rapid jolt
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Is there anywhere to sell and show the mods of timeless jewels? i have a pretty good one to sell but dont know how to get the information out there

jolly radish
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uh

rapid jolt
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Yea but that doesnt help with showing people the notables

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i have a good brutal restraint

unborn oxide
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I got an incubator key

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i have to kill 529 creatures

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but im only at the prison

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is it worth using it on a weapon this

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early in the game

wet plaza
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i'd recommend using it on a belt/ring or something you wont swap out before it is finished

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but yeah use them

karmic palm
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maraketh boss is bugged on maps right now right?

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she disappears after her mount drops. no drops at all

tawdry badger
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R u killing her dismounted form?

bold wharf
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if you do a 4 general fight in a group setting does everyone get their map device upgraded?

copper kernel
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yes

marble quest
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do 5s count towards the upgrade

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just out of curiosity

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like i assume they would but you never know

red wharf
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any tips fighting aukana? Shes on another league comparing to other generals, heavy slowdowns, spammy ranged attacks and heavy hits on close combat, wondering how to make her less dangerous. Would kaom roots help with slowdowns? What type of damage she does?

dense shell
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does anyone know if maraketh boss can spawn in act areas?

copper kernel
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marakeths spawn in maps only

dense shell
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crikey, thanks

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does map density affect the amount of stuff the monoliths spawn?

copper kernel
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most likely

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tho monolith placement has more of an impact

dense shell
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yea i was doing legion V in belly of the beast

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only ~25 mobs would spawn

copper kernel
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why not quarry

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its open at least

dense shell
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less is better

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to get the legion v challenge

neat belfry
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for legion unique keystones, can you take it multiple times?

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e.g. MoM and EE are within range of the jewel

slim kraken
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is there an alternative to or fix for POB in order to calculate stats when using the new jewels?

red jackal
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ass the values manually

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to your existing items

umbral kestrel
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what are the drop rates of historic jewels

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i didnt get shit from 4 emblems

midnight phoenix
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They drop from generals

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At what seems to be a low but not awful rate

vast gazelle
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@neat belfry no you can't stack the unique keystones

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er, the same one

raw magnet
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how the hell should we price / share timeless jewels?

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i've got 5 of them so far and neither is really that good for my build

violet nymph
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thats the thing

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wait 2/3 weeks

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we will see if someone figure out how the fuck jewels works or if GGG will speak about them (like explaining their system)

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@raw magnet they arent meant to be sold outside of god tier ones that get onto reddit. They have a base price based on cost to get, and people just want specific keystones from them (which is seeable by the item itself) other than that, no real way for people to get them sold for more value than others.

Also @violet nymph they intend for it to be a mystery. Chris said they purposely put the formula for how the jewels work on server side so players couldnt figure it out.

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someone will

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like all the games

raw magnet
violet nymph
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and the community needs to gather to make a list of seeds and overall effect of each seed

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after 2/3 weeks the list can be done

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(hoping that the seeds are not randomly generated on each league lol)

low kindle
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You can't be sure in excluding bias/scam attempts

round zinc
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can legion mobs just drop any map they want? i'm somehow getting random t13's while inside my shaped toxic sewers, when i have a shaped atlas with no other t13's completed

lament maple
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Yo quick question: does the freeing of legion mobs give soul eater stacks? A quick search for soul eater here or on reddit didn't give an answer, i feel like it won't but i wanna know before i buy a zerphi's

low kindle
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you can try with soulthirst

graceful stone
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So you need 100 shards of at least two factions to even start the real legion stuff? 2 weeks in and less than 25 of each

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Only 1 maraketh

keen glacier
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how im supposed to know if my jeweles are good if i dont have access to whole tree?

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uhm

graceful stone
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Ok then

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Thanks. Very helpful

lament maple
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Edren do the league mechanic better, ehat do you want us to tell you

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I got like 12 emblems done

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And maraketh is at like 75

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Free more mobs, run maps faster

queen lake
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can legion monster prolif ignite ?

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while they are "frozen"

eternal laurel
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Is there a ‘best’ combination of the armies, should I always save for 4-way or do I just use whenever?

eager terrace
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the more emblems you use the higher level the zone is

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better chances for the better loots

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but you may get more profit just selling the emblems if you don't have pretty solid DPS

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I'd at least make sure you do one 4-emblem domain to unlock the 5th map device slot

lament maple
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Yea I'd do one four way, and always sell the maraketh ones

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As long as i don't have an optimized build for it

eager terrace
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I feel like my build is pretty strong and I'm still not certain doing the 5 emblem is worth it

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they are really chonky bois in there

lament maple
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I mean hh self curse soul eater strong

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The bosses most of the time take too long to kill anyways

eternal laurel
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How much dps do you need to make it worthwhile? I’m cyclone

patent canyon
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2m or more

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preferably more ofc

eternal laurel
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Ok I’m not too far off then I think, nice

eager terrace
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~2m seems like a good amount for farming 4 emblem

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~4m and up probably for 5 emblem

stuck moat
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anyone that can tell me the cap on impale chance? is there any point going for more than 100%?

patent canyon
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cap is 100%

stuck moat
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thats what i thought, thanks!

spice cipher
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do some encounter not have a lot of reward dudes/chest? just went through 7 maps with little reward

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like 1 chest or 1-2 item/armor guys

prisma heart
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How do you locate generals quickly in in regular legion breaches?

eager terrace
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generals always spawn in the back ranks opposite each other

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when you first crack it you'll see the line separating the two armies down the middle

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run to each end perpendicular to that line

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I usually make an arc to pick up some of the treasure mobs between the two points

prisma heart
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Ah, my problem is I start moving as soon as I crack it and don't see the line

eager terrace
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pretty much everything in the center of a monolith is worthless / XP

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you know what DOTA's map looks like

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just look at where the enemy colors change

prisma heart
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Yes but what angle will the line be at? Random?

eager terrace
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ye random

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but you can see it when you are breaking them out

prisma heart
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Will there be 2 generals Everytime?

eager terrace
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no often there are 0

prisma heart
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Ok

eager terrace
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I have played a lot this league and only once have I had 2 generals in the same monolith

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it's almost always either 0 or 1

prisma heart
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Did you kill both?

eager terrace
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ye

prisma heart
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Nice

eager terrace
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they're not as tanky in maps

prisma heart
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I've barely missed them a few times

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Just take too long to travel

eager terrace
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yeah basically as soon as I touch a monolith I look for where the dividing line is

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then dive to the back ranks

prisma heart
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Do you reveal the map around it first before cracking?

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Or just wing it to save time

eager terrace
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depends

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sketchy T16s I tend to clear a little bit around a monolith

prisma heart
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What's your dps

eager terrace
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anything lower I'll generally just blast it

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I'm pretty well geared at this point

low kindle
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well, they look at the opposing army

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so you can instantly know where the backline would be

thick cosmos
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is supreme decadence bugged? any1 know ?

queen lake
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anyone playing soulrend ? How does it feel clearing legions ? Getting bored of ed/contagion

light hatch
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has anyone reversed the legion jewel mechanics yet?

copper kernel
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whats there to reverse

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we know how they work

waxen spire
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When should I do 4 way? I'm in t13's/t14's atm

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How hard will it be