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violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:25 PM

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It makes no sense that its so low

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:25 PM

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but its not in any of these ilvl 84 pictures

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Wait

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Im dumb

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Thats not it

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:25 PM

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you got the wrong exquisite

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:26 PM

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For one, its cuz poe.ninja filtered out non-trend following items

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Can you guess which one

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Is one of the biggest deviants

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:26 PM

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meaning exqusiite blade fell in price? 🤔

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:27 PM

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No

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It was biggest jump

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6.3 ex for 83 base

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:27 PM

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yeah, theres just no ilvl 84 base in their database

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it doesnt even show on the low confidence results

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:28 PM

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bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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i was just wonderiung why it shows an ilvl 83 and an ilvl 86 one

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@violet nymph

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7 Repets 4 Boss kills

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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but not those inbetween

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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2 way fight

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Only four boss kills?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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i had like 15 boss kill,s more rare items but nothing good

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Its based on the icons you get

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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yeah

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Bosses have icons too

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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i had a full bar

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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i cleared most of the icons too every round

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I cleared everythign 7 Times

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besides bosses

clever pivot Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Do you need to kill bosses to re spawn the rares?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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no

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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No

clever pivot Jun 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Then surely just farming the rares is better than killing the bosses?

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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i cant tell you

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but look at the screen shot

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thats what i got

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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ill do another 2 way and only go for rarse

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Like 3-4 times

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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screenshot in 3 minutes

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Sure its not enaugh to show empirical data, but i see like 4c andsome bad rares i dont try it again for 15c

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+Time getting someone to trade with yout

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:37 PM

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yeah that didnt really work

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it seems like symbol rares dont really respawn if you dont kill the bosses

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Realy?

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It allwys worked for me

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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only very few do, and most of them ahve no symbols

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Okay

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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after killing a boss way more spawmn

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Then you need to kill bosses

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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bosses only take a second anyway

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but still not worth it

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Damn only have clear speed

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Not enaugh for bosses :^)

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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loot lookied like it did on your screenshot

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

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I feel like this leauge is realy not rewarding

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

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@violet nymph that's just the base?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

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theres no real endgame farm

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

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It drops a lot, but nothingis worthe anything

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even dying sun is like 30c

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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i bought a good one for 6.5 ex that already had great suff/aff and fortify as 7th link

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said fuck it not gonna go starforge

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So kind of got lucky to be fair

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can also be multimodded to like 500ish pdps

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Yeah 450 is pretty decent

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But the fortify is what drags it above

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:41 PM

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and 60 multi is nothing to sneeze at

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only took 200 fuses too lol

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:42 PM

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i use a similar one but with hits cant be evaded

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also around 450 dps

modest bobcat Jun 13, 2019, 4:43 PM

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are there plans to show bosses of the legions on the minimap so people dont have to spend their entire timer checking both ends of the armies?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I think they shouldve made some of these jewel stuff way stronger than it is now

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even if you get 1 or 2 cool changes to some noteables, you have to deal with 15 nodes that are now total bullshit

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so other than karui and maraketh jewels which are good because they only add stuff

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i dont see these used in a broad fashion

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

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The maraketh ones are nice just cuz they have a decent one as well

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

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It's still early in the league. Buy the stuff for cheap because the prices will go up

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Lethal Pride is pretty good

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

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they are pretty much impossible to trade too

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no PoB support

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

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+60 str +20% melee + 20% phys dmg + 20%ish life

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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yeah as i said, the karui and maraketh are good

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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i use the vaal one for my hybrid trikster at pain attument

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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But these are not interesting

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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the one with 20% life as extra es

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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yeah i use that too

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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^ i used it earlier as well

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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And it doesnt hit any nodes i need

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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but in a corner of my tree where it doesnt mess up anything else

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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and would continue if i could use 2x historics

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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so all this concept of devotion from the templar jewel etc

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I dont think the benefit is high enough

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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wut compare that to a normal 7% life 30% multi top end jjewel

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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For templar, only like 4 of its are worth

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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45%

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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45 is going to be top top top end

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while timeless is 40c-50c teritory

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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@dusty umbra Again, iam NOT talking about the karui or maraketh jewels

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Is minion dmg also karui/maraketh?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:53 PM

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no, but that one messes up so many of your other nodes

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:53 PM

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xD just imagin how much good stuff youc ould get at the shawo

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:53 PM

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that its very hard to evaluate and also requires an insane RNG amount to get a good one, which you cannot even trade for in a deterministic manner

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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3, are the exposure on hit
One is ele ailment immunity

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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the minion damage one can roll all of these

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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would be nice, if the keystone couldn be divined xD

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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if you put it anywhere where you actually have some nodes

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Yeah. That would actually help

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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good luck getting a decent combination that doesnt have big drawbacks too

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Yeah

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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and you cannot even trade for it which is the worst part

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its like you want a new weapon? Go trade for an unidentified rare one

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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unid corrupted ones

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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yeah

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Nah, cuz divines reroll

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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divines are kinda like chaos orbs for those jewels

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Its unid rares that take a devine to reroll

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Which is worse

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Cuz its more expensive

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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yeah

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not sure i understand gggs intention here

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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I think part of the idea was currency sink

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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is it really one though?

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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To absolute minmax

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Because you buy jewel, its bad, you resell it

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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But in reality people cant be bothered

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 4:59 PM

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so all you're doing is cycling through jewels with minimal investment

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except 1k hours of your time

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Yeah

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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HEEEEY like crafting sytesis items

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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its way worse than synth

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you had some kind of influence over the RNG there

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Like i said. Probably intended to be money sink. But in action, people cant be assed

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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how would it ever be a money sink though?

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People not reselling?

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Money sink? how am i suppose to get Money? XD

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Divining instead of sellinf

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Since you cant trade them reliably

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Maps are like 3c and my build cant do the elauge mechanic :^)

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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yeah but also cant divine them reliably

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Not saying it was executed well. Just saying possible idea behind it

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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i see, that was a really not thought through intent then if it was that

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Tbh, if anything, i wish i could get an interview with chris just to get an idea of why a few things are the way they are

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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buy a vip ticket :^)

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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And then you also need to check mulitple position and may respec jewels, why not just relise the seed and a web aplication wich show the stuff you want...

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I think often the answer is that time wasnt enough to refine those things

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Maybe i will for not this one, but next exilecon

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:04 PM

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they're like "lets make these awesome jewels that change the tree"

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and then balancing flip flops between broken and useless

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and you rather keep it useless than breaking everything

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for safety reasons

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Tbh, i think sometimes they should be doing league content 2 leagues before, in order to give half the team time to finish up a league while the other team starts the next

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Cuz having some background with design. Not everyone is needed for all types of projects

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Being able to get that extra time in, would be the difference between polish and not.

Plus it solves the problem that they would face to get more polish. Which is, they cant do longer cycles for leagues. Otherwise they make less money.

clever pivot Jun 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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There's actually a video somewhere of POE's development cycle and how they alternate working on leagues and have backlogs of 'content' that people come up with and develop randomly and put it into a big library of 'future league ideas pot'

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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its was his gdc talk?

analog atlas Jun 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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should I use 2 legionstones or it's better to wait for 3-4?

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Eh

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Its "not worth"it over all imo

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But you sohuld wait for 4

analog atlas Jun 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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and yes, likely the GDC talk

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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To unlock the 5slot map device

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Imo remove the 1 jewel limitation for non karui and maraketh jewels

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You need some more leeway to make these work

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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@clever pivot well, kinda the problem is they dont happen to flesh out enough ahead of time. Cuz for example, they didnt come up with sythnesis toll quite laye

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Right now you need 1 super good kickass jewel that doesn't screw you up elsewhere

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Late*

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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If you had 2 or 3 you could gather the strong nodes in different spots and avoid bad ones

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Basicly shadow

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If you path up

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Take the jewel to the right and boom

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free stuff

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Scion cluster

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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How is that free stuff though

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You put your jewel somewhere, everything changes. There's this awesome 80% minion damage node, but it's behind 3 completely worthless ones and now you invested 4 nodes into that

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Karui and maraketh are nice

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The others are only good for keystone changes

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Just farm channels for divines :^)

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:27 PM

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@quiet geyser not worth it? If you can clear you get eez exalt drops from there and i've seen others with similar results

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depends on your clear speed

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Are you talking about in maps or in the Legion zones?

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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legion areas with emblems

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Those are level locked right

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Legion area

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Everything in Maps is awesome

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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The 2 Legion Fight

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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I'll give it a shot. About to pop about 3 legions

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I did the 3 legion fight and had 1.5 lines of drops in bottom bar, returns were pretty good

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anecdotal but ive seen others get good returns as well from those

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Are there any videos of the area? YouTube only gives me build videos

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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None of the fights turn a reliable profit

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Bottom bar?

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MheJOhPZ4&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

Haku Man

Poe 5 Emblems Legion boss (Domain of Timeless Conflict)

▶ Play video

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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yea the 5 one

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Thx

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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@placid grotto

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quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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The onlyone noone asked for

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2/3/4 is just bad

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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i mean it shows the area which is what he asked for

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Huh... That's new

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Okay my bad thaught you wanted to show lootsploshion

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my bad

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Ah. I'll probably hold off for 5 after I do this one

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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nah loot explosions i've seen in various screens and my own fights

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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5 is also bad if you're not lucky

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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in regards to bar i had bottom one full / and second one half way through

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Whelp I can see why the had to remove Proliferation

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So much stuff is close together

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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tell that to ED/contagion

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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That doesnt lag

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Only when you hit packs with cant die

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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ah thats what he meant

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yeah true

quiet geyser Jun 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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You look at vaal ice nova ^^ the one video on reddit.

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It laggs so hard

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And ed is just lagg free

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Or when it laggs then because it hit the cap of monsters it can beon

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Bah I was planning on making my Sabateur into BV Trickster but now I may be going DoT

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

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What does the eternal empire jewel do the regular nodes?

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The wiki says "the prize of glory"

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but what does that mean?

wild arch Jun 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

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They do literally nothing

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To compensate for the extra strong notables

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

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uuuh okay

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so if i put that in the duelist spot with a sword slayer build i lose 20% life 25% dmg and 4% AS, 30 strength and 10 dex

calm fractal Jun 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

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What is the radius on the jewels, it's medium right?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

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large

calm fractal Jun 13, 2019, 6:29 PM

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🤔

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Would I get two?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 6:29 PM

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yeah but keystones are binary

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so it doesnt do anything different than if you only had 1

calm fractal Jun 13, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Darn

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I don't think there are any that would be good for my build anyways so

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But I could of hoped.

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

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theres one thats really good for life builds that use soul tether

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so all the cyclone slyers basically

calm fractal Jun 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Yeah but im spectral sheild throw, I mean, I could path over to perfect agony if I found one that really helped me.

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Maybe the Vaal notables, because im cold conversion but yeah.

clever pivot Jun 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Since when was there a full elder/shaper set vendor recipe?

ivory nimbus Jun 13, 2019, 6:48 PM

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which one was the one good for soul tether?

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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@clever pivot at least 3 leagues ago, likely longer

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@bronze cave tbh one of best places to use jewel for keystone(-s) is bottom right corner since it doesn't hit almost anything else you dont want to

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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yeah, thats where i put mine

warped pollen Jun 13, 2019, 7:18 PM

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just started the league, am i supposed to just run around killing everything with an icon over its head after i click the monolith?

patent canyon Jun 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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pretty much

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look for faction generals as well on the edge

warped pollen Jun 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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what icon do those have?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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none

warped pollen Jun 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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alright

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 7:30 PM

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@warped pollen generally you have this kind of layout

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https://i.redd.it/cqtvl1yyqs331.png

warped pollen Jun 13, 2019, 7:31 PM

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so is there always a general on each side?

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nice diagram btw 😄

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Usually there's a rare there, but sometimes there a general

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Generals are uniques

earnest heron Jun 13, 2019, 7:31 PM

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how do you make the emblems after getting 100 shards ?

wet plaza Jun 13, 2019, 7:32 PM

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shift click to unstack one then pop it in in your inv

earnest heron Jun 13, 2019, 7:32 PM

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thanks

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Maybe that image should be pinned. Seems useful

warped pollen Jun 13, 2019, 7:34 PM

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my last monolith they were literally all facing the monolith D: couldnt see which end general might be on

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like a circular formation

kindred dagger Jun 13, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Is there any rules discovers yet for monolith is there any guide for legion right now ? i searched but found nothing

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 7:45 PM

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What do you mean

lunar moth Jun 13, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Break the people in stasis with weapons, armors, jewelry, and box icons

feral monolith Jun 13, 2019, 7:55 PM

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do the ilvl on the incubators matter? for example, a ilvl84 geomancer's incubator will drop a ilvl84 chest?

kindred dagger Jun 13, 2019, 8:04 PM

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yeah so no info so far

fallen tulip Jun 13, 2019, 8:11 PM

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How much shorter do you guys feel Frostblink range is compared to Flame dash?

misty rune Jun 13, 2019, 8:17 PM

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where do the new unique jewels drop? from the new 'breachstone' maps?

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or just any legion mob randomly

fast spoke Jun 13, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Yeah just in the big special area

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Timelost battlefield or whatever

misty rune Jun 13, 2019, 8:35 PM

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ok ty

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:43 PM

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is it worth doing a 2-emblem Domain, or should I wait for 4 emblems

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 8:44 PM

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worth economic wise?

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:44 PM

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I suppose?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 8:44 PM

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then sell your splinters

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none of these are worth it from a loot point of view

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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well okay, I meant in terms of return, advancing the legion content etc

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not selling the splinters

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like, 2-emblem vs 4-emblem

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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doing a 4way gets you the 5 slot map device

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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oh okay that seems worth then

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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theres no real advancement outside of that

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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well, challenges

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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yeah, you can do a 2 way tbh

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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does 4-emblem get you all the challenges up to 4 too?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 8:46 PM

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youre gonna have the 2 common stones again

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by the time you have the 4th

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youre also not losing much

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the 2 common stones are 6 chaos per emblem

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:47 PM

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fair

undone anchor Jun 13, 2019, 8:53 PM

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depends on ur build too

frozen wasp Jun 13, 2019, 8:55 PM

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essence drain

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dps wasn't amazing, managed to kill both generals once, and then one of them when they spawned again

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deffo need some more chaos multi

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 8:55 PM

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any of u guys got the eleron craft for ring available?

solemn plaza Jun 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Is there a list yet anywhere of what the symbols all mean in a monolith encounter? I know generally what they are (a few of them, at least) but it'd be nice to have an image or something to reference and learn which ones I should prioritize.

misty rune Jun 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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how difficult is a 4 map

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more shaper or more uber elder

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 9:11 PM

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5x is more uber

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4x is more shaper

misty rune Jun 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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good to know

dusty umbra Jun 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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3x was easy even with like 500k-1m dps (like 3-5 sets)

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2x was total cakewalk

wide totem Jun 13, 2019, 9:16 PM

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soon time to see what state scourge arrow will be in

celest atlas Jun 13, 2019, 9:38 PM

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@solemn plaza i asked the same thing a few hours back .. sadly nothing .. i also googled for a while ..

kindred dagger Jun 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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for now doesnt seems there is anything for legion league

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Is there an update or a bug actually i cant see anny new but the game say to me server down for update ?

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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@kindred dagger it's down for patch 3.7.1.

kindred dagger Jun 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Ok thanks, strange there isnt much info

analog atlas Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 PM

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how do you get historic jewels?

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are they rare drops from generals?

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 PM

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They only drop from the 5 emblem version of the Domain of Timeless Conflict

viral iris Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 PM

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do you guys run 4-5 emblems or just 2-3?

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which is better?

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Then yeah, decent chance of dropping from the generals

viral iris Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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och!

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u sure only 5?

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nice to know 😛

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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I've seen a lot of people say just do 2

mystic crow Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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really?

viral iris Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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do you know if its possioble to get multiple from one run?

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Cause the random rewards don't really change

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Yeah one of the other mods got 2 in a run

mystic crow Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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dont you need too do 4 to get the 5th map frag slot

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Yes

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So do that at least once

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Problem is the jewels aren't actually worth much

mystic crow Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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whats the zone level for legion boss encounter

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Depends on the number of emblems

viral iris Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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is it confirmed that they drop from 5 emblems only?

mystic crow Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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lets say 4

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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4 is 80 I believe

mystic crow Jun 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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just wait for mathil to make a build using a jewel drop then theyll start going up in price

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@viral iris not officially confirmed no

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Never will be

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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5 is level 84 IRC. I think 4 was 79ish

mystic crow Jun 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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i saw one that changed some nodes to 80% minion damage

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Are you able to trade jewels? I thought it was DOA

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 10:11 PM

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You can trade them

gritty ember Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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you CAN but its pretty hard since you dont know what the jewel actually does

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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I mean trade for the one you want. I don't think you can filter flavor text

gritty ember Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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if you know what a specific base and seed does you know what that jewel does

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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You can at least get the keystone you want easily

gritty ember Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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but you need to already know what the one you want's number is

silver kettle Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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But the other nodes are a total crapshoot

gritty ember Jun 13, 2019, 10:14 PM

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yeah true, there are some consistent bits of information.

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the patch notes are in #old-game-news for a full list of fixes

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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@viral iris timeless jewels can drop from 2 way encounter too

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Not just from 5 way

fleet mango Jun 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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these new jewels is each one based on one type of thing? like is one like spell stuff, one phys another one minion related? I'm googling but it's kind hard, I'm interested in messing around with one thats curse related/chaos related, and am unsure on if I could buy any or a specific one

gritty ember Jun 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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i dont see an explicit fix but there are various fixes to queuing and so on

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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@fleet mango https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Timeless_Jewel

Path of Exile Wiki

Timeless Jewel

Timeless JewelPlace into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.AcquisitionLevel: 1The only way to obtain a Timeless Jewel is to corrupt five unique Timeless Jewels into rares, then sell them to vendor for an uncorrupted rar...

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you can see what all the jewels can do here

placid grotto Jun 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Right, you can see the possible outcomes of a jewel, but there's nothing to tie that in with a particular jewel

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You can't look at a given mod and say "this jewel is the right one" without first buying it

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 10:28 PM

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yup

frosty aurora Jun 13, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Reduced the damage of the Bloodblessed Conqueror's "Red Wave" skill. Reduced the damage and area of effect of the Bloodblessed Conqueror's targeted ground explosion skill. Reduced the overall amount of damage that the Ritemaster Decapitators deal with all of their skills. Reduced the overall amount of damage that the Roc Sentinels deal with all of their skills. Reduced the damage of the Roc Sentinel's Decelerating Projectiles and the subsequent explosions.

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we did it?

cobalt tinsel Jun 13, 2019, 11:17 PM

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I feel stupid but how do I combine 100 splinters into an emblem ?

zenith prairie Jun 13, 2019, 11:20 PM

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new patch broke game

tough roost Jun 13, 2019, 11:21 PM

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@cobalt tinsel they won't convert in a currency tab, so you take the 100 out, unstack 1 of them with shift-click

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Then restack the group again

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And they should turn into an Emblem

violet nymph Jun 13, 2019, 11:22 PM

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game broke with last patch

night plume Jun 13, 2019, 11:38 PM

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does anyone have a link to that website that lets you play with jewel rolls?

wicked seal Jun 13, 2019, 11:49 PM

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how do you recognize a general?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 11:56 PM

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@night plume that doesnt exist

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@wicked seal You can only realize by their unique name color and thei model

undone anchor Jun 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I wonder if binos poison prolif would be good for emblem fights

wicked seal Jun 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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do they spawn every time you open a monolith?

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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no

wicked seal Jun 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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ok

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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if they spawn they will be on the backline of their army

night plume Jun 13, 2019, 11:58 PM

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damn, i could have sworn i saw a streamer playing with numeric rolls on some site, didnt know what it did and i just got a jewel

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thank you

bronze cave Jun 13, 2019, 11:58 PM

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i mean you can simulate stuff on pob

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but you have to manually input every changed node

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since there is no way to extract the information of what a jewel does out o the game

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:00 AM

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They have gold names and are in the back of the pack

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But they look a lot like rares

prisma heart Jun 14, 2019, 12:00 AM

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are there any videos of melee doing 5 emblem legions?

bronze cave Jun 14, 2019, 12:01 AM

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probably plenty of cyclone vids

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:01 AM

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https://i.redd.it/cqtvl1yyqs331.png here's where they should be. My experience matches this @wicked seal

prisma heart Jun 14, 2019, 12:01 AM

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im interested in an earthquake build

bronze cave Jun 14, 2019, 12:01 AM

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its not a hard fight

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but the generals are quite tanky

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Super tanky. T2 Maraketh general feels like she had more health than Kitava

bronze cave Jun 14, 2019, 12:02 AM

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the 5 army fight generals have at least as much hp as shaper

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I think Empire general has phases as well

bronze cave Jun 14, 2019, 12:03 AM

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the templar guy is the worst because he seems to have an invulnerability phase

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Sharing a 4 army that is not yours does give you a 5 slot map device

bronze cave Jun 14, 2019, 12:03 AM

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or i dont undertand it

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 12:03 AM

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mechanics 🔧

wicked seal Jun 14, 2019, 12:05 AM

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thanks! @placid grotto

chilly hare Jun 14, 2019, 12:09 AM

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do generals always spawn?

bronze cave Jun 14, 2019, 12:10 AM

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no

chilly hare Jun 14, 2019, 12:18 AM

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ty

smoky fiber Jun 14, 2019, 12:32 AM

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good patch, now something happened to my character that crashes game moment I log into it

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so uh.. what do I do now..

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Generally, it feels like generals spawn 1/10 maps or so

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Unless I'm really, really bad at finding them

hot ibex Jun 14, 2019, 12:39 AM

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so while the patch is fubar i figure this is the best time and section to ask, as I am ED and my single target is...laughable.. how smart is it to run the armies and just wipe out trash and reset over and over, while not touching the bosses?

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Not great. The vast majority of my drops are from rares. I tried doing it in Campaign areas where you can easily clear everything and averaged 60c/hr

hot ibex Jun 14, 2019, 12:42 AM

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yea its really difficult to talk myself out of just farming quarry

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considering you seem to get the same amount of splinters i mean..

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 12:45 AM

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I got more in T1 maps IIRC

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Not to mention you can do Jun/Alva in parallel

hot ibex Jun 14, 2019, 12:46 AM

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ugh i might farm quarry and t1s just to see how profitable it is it really shouldnt be something i should even have to consider but blah

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Lmk how that works for you. I'll probably try it again at some point to confirm

hot ibex Jun 14, 2019, 1:20 AM

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so compared to high rolled high tier maps i see really no difference in splinters and incubators, and for someone that is chaos recipe for life stil get a ton of rings

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 1:21 AM

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few folks in general were posting quarry run results of tabs of incubators earlier

hot ibex Jun 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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oooo?

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results?

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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its worth it if you can prevent yourself from going insane

delicate acorn Jun 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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do heralds work on legion stuff

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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hoi does

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hoa dunno

delicate acorn Jun 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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👀

hot ibex Jun 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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oh i can definitley farm quarry its what i was doing for the past few leagues especially synth for the travel nodes

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but incubators dont seem to be worth a damn

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 1:23 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/174993814845521922/588835419714748426

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Wow that blows me out of the water

runic trellis Jun 14, 2019, 2:07 AM

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did cyclone get nerfed?

south latch Jun 14, 2019, 2:31 AM

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So this is only my second league, but are things normally this...broken...so to speak? Like bugs n stuff

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Bc between Synth and Legion, there seems to be a lot of random bugs popping up

native osprey Jun 14, 2019, 2:32 AM

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first few weeks are usually quite broken

midnight phoenix Jun 14, 2019, 2:44 AM

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So synth wasnt super broken exactly

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It was just design failure

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This past few hours on the other hand is some QA failure which is not super common in PoE

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Like once a year maybe we get shit like this

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Im looking forward to the inevitable chris postmortem

lament dagger Jun 14, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Synth had many issues

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For first month

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On top of beinf clunky city and poor designs

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Random shit like darkness crashing

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A lot of bugs with the darkness

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Just that most of the complaining was on the design side of it

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But in general leagues have started to come out buggier

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What's funny is that Legion on like first couple of days was one of their smoother launch

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Then they launched like 2 patches that fucked things up more than they fixed

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Twice in a row they messed up mobility skills via post patch

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Like Chris said something is wrong in their pipeline where a patch works fine in testing but when released has a bunch of issues

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Usually takes a month for a new league to be in stable condition

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This started back in Breach

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Breach caused a lot of crashing, bugs and glitches initially

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Ofc ppl forget that becayse they only remember the league after they fixed issues

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And since then the scope of leagues have gotten bigger but the number of issues grow

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And this was one of their "smaller" league

true bridge Jun 14, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Is it more worth it to use incubators or to sell them?

fair ore Jun 14, 2019, 3:09 AM

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so... how do legion mechanics work with this? LOL

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violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 3:20 AM

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what do you mean

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 3:21 AM

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There's no way into it

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It's blocked on all sides

midnight phoenix Jun 14, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Welp

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Carry on to next zone then

undone anchor Jun 14, 2019, 3:26 AM

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what do u guys think about bino prolif for doing 5 emblems

midnight phoenix Jun 14, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Doesnt work on frozen mobs

undone anchor Jun 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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emblems not monoliths

midnight phoenix Jun 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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I dont think it works on legion mobs either on unfreeze or kill, it's on the big list of stuff that doesnt work

spice cipher Jun 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Inside maps can be a pain for unfreezing legion mobs

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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They should not spawn through pathing walls really

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Pls change

midnight phoenix Jun 14, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Shrug

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Its same as breach

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Im fine with it

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Unlike breach the crucial reward node can b walled off

midnight phoenix Jun 14, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Same as breach, breachlord or big hand can spawn behind walls

cinder pond Jun 14, 2019, 5:56 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c06izo/not_sure_if_anyone_know_this_combo_corrupted_soul/

sharing my reddit post about an interesting combo that largely enhances your EHP.

r/pathofexile - Not sure if anyone know this combo: Corrupted Soul...

35 votes and 56 comments so far on Reddit

undone anchor Jun 14, 2019, 6:03 AM

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I wish the jewels weren't so rare

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sadj

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I can only seem to get Karui ones

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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The maraketh one that gives MORE crit chance is great.

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Since you can just use forms of hits cant be evaded

undone anchor Jun 14, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Ye

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Hits can't be evaded isn't free tho

blissful ledge Jun 14, 2019, 6:08 AM

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should i go for vaal or karui gem if I'm a slayer cyclone with no crit?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 6:10 AM

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True. But for 25% more crit. Id say the cost is reasonable @undone anchor

undone anchor Jun 14, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Definitely can be worth depending on ur crit chance

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But fuck man drop me some jewels D:<

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Vaals give es?

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Or all can give es

sour falcon Jun 14, 2019, 8:40 AM

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anybody figure out what method is best for farming the emblems (2way/3way/4way)?

patent canyon Jun 14, 2019, 8:50 AM

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if you have deeps then 5 way

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 8:51 AM

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5 way has the highest cashout possible cuz elder/shaper bases. But isnt reliable. Can produce decent loot.

severe pollen Jun 14, 2019, 8:57 AM

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how do you guys do your obelisks?

activate it then run as far as you can before it starts and just attack randomly?

or you activate it and just kill the big yellow guys?

small mirage Jun 14, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Activate, zoom around and break enemies with good symbols

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Depends on your build really

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If you have a lot of aoe and clear speed you can maybe afford to clear trash enemies but I don't find it that lucrative

severe pollen Jun 14, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Thank you! I'll try to only hit mobs with weird symbols

im an iceshot deadeye btw

small mirage Jun 14, 2019, 9:36 AM

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Also some symbols are better than others

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Weapons armor and jewellery aren't gonna be that good early game

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 9:38 AM

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I find its good to run while its starting up

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The nodes are often on opposite sides some distance from the center

small mirage Jun 14, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Yeah the good enemies tend to be at the back away from the central line

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But I prefer staying in the middle when it starts up so I can see which way the line is oriented

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Also depends on the layout of the zone

severe pollen Jun 14, 2019, 10:21 AM

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can you go back to low lvl areas to one shot obelisks there? or are the stats of the legion mobs dependant on your lvl

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 10:26 AM

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@severe pollen limit on that

severe pollen Jun 14, 2019, 10:26 AM

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limit?

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 10:40 AM

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-10 lv allegedly. Condition does not apply for maps

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Try tier1 maps

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I found 21/23 in tier2

vernal gorge Jun 14, 2019, 11:06 AM

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How good is blind this league? I don't know what damage typing (attack/spell) most legion shit is

dusty umbra Jun 14, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Make sure to upgrade your Lunaris pantheon this league lol

kindred dagger Jun 14, 2019, 12:26 PM

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legion jewel cant be trade or they are so rare actually that no one trade them yet ?

patent canyon Jun 14, 2019, 12:28 PM

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plenty of them for sale

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Use official trade @kindred dagger

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Not poe.trade

kindred dagger Jun 14, 2019, 12:35 PM

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oh i'll check that thanks

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mmmh doesnt work either

mint salmon Jun 14, 2019, 12:48 PM

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does anyone have a guide to understanding the mechanics for legion? currently I am just running around killing as many of them on each map I do. Just want to make sure I am not doing it wrong because I still haven't seen an army fight and im level 90

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 12:51 PM

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@mint salmon army fights are emblems

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Like breachstones

kindred dagger Jun 14, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Same here, there is no guide for now, no explication on anything

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The only thing everyone is saying which seems right, is that you better run to find chest and enemies with symbol on their heads, i dont know about the EXP but doesnt seems too good just for farming its really the loot that seems important for legion

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But i really would know if there is things that intereact with legion, like maps, level, luck... (which im fucked in that case) for symbol to appears and especialy general

kindred dagger Jun 14, 2019, 1:10 PM

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mmmh i finaly found a general and unleashed him but it didnt rewarded me much but some shard, does they give anything else ?

mint salmon Jun 14, 2019, 1:16 PM

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ok and the emblems are created once you get 100 of them correct?

wet plaza Jun 14, 2019, 1:17 PM

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yes just like breach splinters

teal spindle Jun 14, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://pastebin.com/QFVE6Tu5

Will i be fine in 5-way encounter?

Pastebin

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yeah did it deathless

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dusty umbra Jun 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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@teal spindle what's the skill on your middle mouse?

teal spindle Jun 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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enduring cry

dusty umbra Jun 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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and your Q

teal spindle Jun 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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dash

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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fossils ?_?

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do they drop fossil icons in there?

teal spindle Jun 14, 2019, 3:11 PM

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they drop everything

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but not jewels....

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did like 3 or 4 rounds got nothing back, need more dps

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 3:12 PM

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hmm so its like an obelisk

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all sorts of icons

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Fossils can also drop from map encounters

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Just not common

teal spindle Jun 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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mb this thing will give something valuable

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marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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dense is down to 1c...

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Yup

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The power of perceived nerfs

fast spoke Jun 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I don't think it's a perceived nerf, I think it's more the power of extreme buffs

fleet mango Jun 14, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I never played that league or used the fossils, but some of them look pretty neat. wonder how busted they were lol

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every single seed on a jewel is different, this new addiction is great, just divining and staring at random jewel slots to see if its busted or not.

marsh wagon Jun 14, 2019, 3:21 PM

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u get as much as 60% quality on es gear this time...

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i might even craft myself if it stays that low

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@marsh wagon serated are at 15c. So

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Yeah, Dense + Metallic + Shuddering + Resonator are < 10c. Using Sanctified and a 4 is still < 30c

safe fern Jun 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Did Trials of Ascendancy get more rare in maps? I've only hit 1 in like 50-100 maps. Other folks wondering too: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c036ey/so_wheres_the_burning_rage_trial/

r/pathofexile - So Where's the Burning Rage trial?

0 votes and 8 comments so far on Reddit

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 4:01 PM

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huh

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i've found a few burning rages

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i had all my trials done before the first week ended

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820 is a blessing

safe fern Jun 14, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Ah, OK! It may just be confirmation bias / the RNG at work.

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Yeah maybe I should start just using that.

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 4:02 PM

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it was literally flooded with people giving away their trials when i needed my last two

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it's probably still like that

safe fern Jun 14, 2019, 4:03 PM

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is there a customary tip?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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"tips appreciated" doesn't mean you have to give one

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i usually tip 2c

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after doing the trial

kindred dagger Jun 14, 2019, 4:05 PM

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you can give 1-2 alch if you are poor, i got some hard time this league

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But its strange before syndicate every map i found a trial, since syndicate its like a trial every 20+ map, did they change officialy anything ?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 4:07 PM

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well that's fucking cool

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safe fern Jun 14, 2019, 4:09 PM

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the incubator notification?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 4:10 PM

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yes

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though there's still no effect when the item pops out, i just noticed

safe fern Jun 14, 2019, 4:10 PM

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reddit demanded, reddit got 😃 it pops up too early though, hopefully they'll tweak it

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I think there is an effect, it's just hard to notice because it always happens in the middle of a fight

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I have a feeling trials are weighted

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and rage/doubt are the rare ones

dusty umbra Jun 14, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@low kindle tbh this league i had super easy time with trials felt buffed

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only 820'd one of em

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 5:24 PM

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What's the best way to shatter the Legion armies with a frostbolt + Vaal Ice Nova build? Should I cast Vaal RF + Vaal IN on myself or on the frostbolt projectiles?

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 5:24 PM

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you cant shatter legion mobs btw

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I meant as releasing them from crystal form

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 5:25 PM

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or anyhow explode them

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 5:25 PM

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My wording was bad, sorry

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Would you know anything about that, @low kindle ? The most optimal way to "activate" the Legion monsters with Vaal Ice nova?

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I havent actually tested VIN interaction with frostbolt

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but it's probably not necessary

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since normal mobs which make the larger chunk of armies usually get oneshot anyway

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and your second nova wouldn't be able to spread

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 5:30 PM

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So I just need to get more AoE to pop the highest amount of small mobs as possible, then

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Then jump around hitting the big ones

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Thanks for the help

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 6:04 PM

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just get carcass jack

dire rivet Jun 14, 2019, 6:29 PM

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does increased area of effect gem not work with ice nova? it doesnt seem to increase the area spread of nova either on the ground or via frostbolt

calm fractal Jun 14, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Sst can pop legion pretty good tbh

gritty ember Jun 14, 2019, 6:53 PM

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it does, its just that area of effect scales the area not the radius so its super annoying to scale

steady bramble Jun 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I've had a couple of those time-lost incubators and only had gloves & boots from it. But both dropped 4 linked. Is it a thing that the items that drops are always max links?

gilded spire Jun 14, 2019, 7:46 PM

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So what happened to Fossils stacking?

placid grotto Jun 14, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Still in the queue

peak hornet Jun 14, 2019, 8:20 PM

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does herald of ice explosions chain on legion mobs or its like bleed explosions?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Don't you have to shatter them to proc it? (They're freeze immune so can that even happen?)

split harness Jun 14, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Does anyone knows if there's a min level to spawn some of the legion factions or all can spawn on low level too?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Maraketh seem to only spawn in maps

split harness Jun 14, 2019, 9:48 PM

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k thanks

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Splinters seem more common in higher tiers as well from what I've found

slender sierra Jun 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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i have 3 shard stacks should i wait for my fourth stack and unlock the 5 map slot or just do 2 since i haven't done it before?

supple root Jun 14, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Doing higher level encounters gives completion for lower ones. I did my first one w 3 last night and it gave me challenge completion for 2 and 3.

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So if you trust your build just do the bigger one. The more emblems you use the longer you have

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Where can I find generals? I often touch the monolith (heh), the two armies spawn facing each other and I run to their back lines, tagging the big yellow mobs. But they are not generals, right?

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Do generals not spawn on white maps?

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I have not seen a single general so far.

supple root Jun 14, 2019, 10:23 PM

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They flash different colors while frozen and are as big or bigger than the rare mobs. They have unique names when you mouse over. They’re always behind the back line of their army. I’d estimate they show up about 10% of the time and I started seeing them in like a8-9.

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So you’ll see them in white maps.

quartz dome Jun 14, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I've personally seen Lioneye twice and some vaal snake lady once, am currently at t5 maps

supple root Jun 14, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I’ve seen all but Maraketh in maps and I will start pushing red maps tonight.

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But I haven’t tracked tier level for spottings or anything

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Generals are pretty rare

supple root Jun 14, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Yeah 10% might be optimistic. Maybe 5

gritty wedge Jun 14, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I've never seen a general but I suck at clearing legion

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 10:35 PM

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5 emblem is a lvl 84 zone and you need stupid amounts of dps to make profit

quartz dome Jun 14, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Legion seems to beg for a good amount of movespeed to be cleared well without contagion

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Bosses have shaper like life

quartz dome Jun 14, 2019, 10:36 PM

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~~granted some of the rares are bloody tanky~~

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Feels like optimal clear will be dropping to white maps after you reach shsper dps

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All the cool rare mods dont seem levrl dependant anyway

low kindle Jun 14, 2019, 10:37 PM

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You should try all and see what is the most comfortable for you

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Then adjust as you gear up

cerulean halo Jun 14, 2019, 11:49 PM

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For the timeless jewles does PoB support that yet?

violet nymph Jun 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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What are the "Valuable uniques" from time-lost incubators? Worth buying them while running maps?

lament dagger Jun 15, 2019, 12:05 AM

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I think those are like some version of reliquary keys

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They can drop any unique

undone anchor Jun 15, 2019, 12:10 AM

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@cerulean halo it will most likely never be supported

cerulean halo Jun 15, 2019, 12:46 AM

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It just sucks I saw a good seed but I have no idea if I really want to respec myself into it

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I may have a good seed now but I cant tell

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 1:06 AM

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If you want incubators 24/7 just run low level maps

kindred dagger Jun 15, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Oh so the more you go high level in legion the less you drop incubator ? its strange but i felt like every ~5 legion i had incubator early on then nothing the more move in the story

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 1:21 AM

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No, you just kill low level mobs more easily

kindred dagger Jun 15, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Does such things are confirmed anywhere ? Its strange that none of the big player released any guide on legion league

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usualy there is a shitload of guide the first weak

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 1:22 AM

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There is not much to talk about

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Just kill a lot of mobs, really

marble quest Jun 15, 2019, 1:22 AM

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try to make your way to the backs of the armies

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hit up generals, if there are any

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other than that idk

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Generals on the edges, so it is best to clear towards the certer raher than going outwards

kindred dagger Jun 15, 2019, 1:23 AM

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One thing i didnt notices much, does ALL mob from legion can drop things ? or just rare, or just mob with symbol on their heads ? Or maybe the fact that they got symbole just guarente the specific kind of loot. . Those are really basics i guess that we should know !!

marble quest Jun 15, 2019, 1:23 AM

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pretty sure its just icons but maybe the rares have a chance? havent looked too closely at it lol

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 1:24 AM

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All of them can drop splinters. The ones with symbols drop the stuff from the symble

kindred dagger Jun 15, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Honestly its strange, like maybe you could have patern about what kind of mob you are gonna encounter, depending on various things who knows, because if its full random so fuck it, because everytime you have to chose like ok
or i try to clean everything risking along the path, of fuck there is a specialy symbol or general damn no time anymore...
or i go search for big symbol and general and damn nothing and i dont have time to clear now....

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honestly i dont see this thing as an improve breach bash everything as long as reward is so random and limited

undone anchor Jun 15, 2019, 1:57 AM

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it feels better

fringe loom Jun 15, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Idgi

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I proc HoI when I first hit the dudes

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But after the timer runs out and they start hitting me

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No HoI

undone anchor Jun 15, 2019, 2:03 AM

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they are not freezable

fringe loom Jun 15, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Ahhhh

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Why is that

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It’s kind of jarring

undone anchor Jun 15, 2019, 2:25 AM

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idk

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they just cant be

sly drum Jun 15, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Where do you farm legion?

humble jetty Jun 15, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Each map or zone has a legion monolith in it

analog atlas Jun 15, 2019, 2:49 AM

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are frozen legion monsters vulnerable to knockback, especially the reverse knockback?

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just checked it myself, the answer is no

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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T1 seems fine for me

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Didn't notice much of a difference between that and T8 maps

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Though I've seen some people mention Quarry

tiny flint Jun 15, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Anyone else find melee clunky af

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Without multi strike

frosty birch Jun 15, 2019, 4:36 AM

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What's the best way to farm monoliths

red jackal Jun 15, 2019, 5:00 AM

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quarry

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or ed/contagion

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either/or answers your question

wet plaza Jun 15, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Anything with huge aoe. I can recommend some miner action especially fireball.

exotic jay Jun 15, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I have tried google and I can't find an answer, how do I use my Singular Incubator?

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I uh lied, after I thought about it for a minute I figured it out.

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 6:39 AM

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imagine actually killing bosses

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violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 7:15 AM

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21 vaal fireball ooh

wet plaza Jun 15, 2019, 7:16 AM

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time to reroll

pseudo hull Jun 15, 2019, 7:23 AM

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pog

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 8:10 AM

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21/23

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Already a trickster ez reroll

nimble sun Jun 15, 2019, 9:55 AM

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do the "coins" to commemorate to victario on elegant jewels, have to just be within 2k-x range or the higher the number the better?

thick cosmos Jun 15, 2019, 10:38 AM

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hi guys, any1 can give me a cheap & good legion starter 😄 for a newbie

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prefer witch*

clear marlin Jun 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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I just noticed that it seems that I don't have to kill timeless mob to apear him in "next" phase, right? Additionally, is special mobs with icon above spawn completly random, or they spawn more frequently farer from the monolith?

past badger Jun 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Seems ons the edges furthest from monolith. To me at least

steady token Jun 15, 2019, 1:32 PM

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does herald of ice not work on the legion once they get released

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is this intended or gonna be fixed

low kindle Jun 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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we dont know yet

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all explosion effects dont work on legion

dusty umbra Jun 15, 2019, 1:56 PM

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@low kindle which is a shame , else i'd consider those bleed gloves

low kindle Jun 15, 2019, 1:57 PM

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this also includes herald of ice, profane bloom, inpulsa

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this was done so that players wouldn't explode them while they're frozen, seems like they remain the same entity and retain immunity to explosions

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so idk if ggg is even gonna fix this

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 2:00 PM

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HoI works on them before they break

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Just not after

low kindle Jun 15, 2019, 2:00 PM

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does it

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Ive seen video of it

low kindle Jun 15, 2019, 2:00 PM

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maybe you've seen video of vaal ice nova

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Nope. Just HoI

low kindle Jun 15, 2019, 2:01 PM

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can you find the video please

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Ill find it when i wake up, but ill message you before i pass out so i remember to do so

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Iirc it was on an autobomber

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@low kindle https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c0jfmx/herald_of_ice_works_on_monolith_mobs/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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I had it pinned

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HoI working fine on shells, fails to work on them after

thin anvil Jun 15, 2019, 3:28 PM

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any profitable map mods this league?

low kindle Jun 15, 2019, 3:37 PM

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bloodlines are probably still okay on 8 mod maps

wary coyote Jun 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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woah there's like 20c in that legion picture

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insane

faint oracle Jun 15, 2019, 6:33 PM

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sooo am i the only person considering incubators stupid ?

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its just another way of dropping loot

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with a delay

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but on that note i also had an idea. If i were to put a unique item incubator into a claw it could give me a claw

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that would actually make me think about where do i put this item especially for SSF

dreamy carbon Jun 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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for trade leagues it's very nice to add the thing people like to talk about, "player agency"

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so I can get seven Abyss incubators going if that's the loot I want to go after

faint oracle Jun 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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how would you imagine that it would work with abyss incubators? I mean ive only reached level 85 now in ssf but i always was able to do every single incubator

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never had to store them

wary coyote Jun 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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it's an interesting way to guarantee a drop of something

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some of them are quite silly, like the enchant ones

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but some are also cool

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like time worn relic

dreamy carbon Jun 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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It's not specifically Abyss, it's any type I want I can buy

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some of them take 40k+ kills to do

faint oracle Jun 15, 2019, 7:10 PM

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oh well i guess i havent seen one like that

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all the ones ive found are esentially not adding anything to the game. Currency, Scarab, Fossil... there is litteraly nothing i can influence about that

gilded spire Jun 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I have 100 of the timeless splinters says combine them. How is this done? I right click nothing happens.

faint oracle Jun 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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try to do it in your inventory

gilded spire Jun 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I am

faint oracle Jun 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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divide the stack ?

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and recombine manualy mb?

gilded spire Jun 15, 2019, 7:13 PM

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That did it had to divide them

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They dont do it in the Stash Or inventory till you do

faint oracle Jun 15, 2019, 7:14 PM

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yea that also happened to some other item i dont remember which. Thats why i said try in inventory^^

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is the chance to get one of these new jewels big ?

violet nymph Jun 15, 2019, 7:27 PM

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this might be a stupid question but i'm playing ed/contagion and would like to farm monoliths

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is there a map that's especially good for that (e.g. monolith spawning near entrance)?

gilded spire Jun 15, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@violet nymph People I see farm usual Quarry lol for monoliths

teal axle Jun 15, 2019, 8:43 PM

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I'll probably do that for a bit

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my single target is kind of meh until I get gem levels

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 8:43 PM

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I am a quarry farmer, its worth it if you only want the chaos recipe and monoliths for sure

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:35 PM

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what do you look for in quarry? Primarily chaos recipe or fragments?

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 9:35 PM

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sadly im chaos recipe for life i dont have the funds to self sustain, t16 elders

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so chaos and monolith

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:36 PM

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tried for about 30 mins but didn't see a while lot. Got some incubators but on the whole, I was only getting ~60 c/hr average without chaos recipe

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 9:37 PM

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i will say i dont think ive ever found any generals in there

next epoch Jun 15, 2019, 9:38 PM

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like most valuable league content it's probably level gated to maps

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:39 PM

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yeah, I know you can get generals in T2 maps; saw Templar and Maraketh ones there

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think they were testing that out with Rin in Betrayal

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having map-exclusive league encounters to see if that broke anything in the code

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 9:40 PM

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yea thats fine and when i get a decent amount of like t1-t7 i can farm those just make a rush to the monolith and bounce,

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I bought a bunch of Lost Maps prophecies for 2-4alcs

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planning on selling the maps I don't need and ending up more or less even

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 9:41 PM

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think its disappointing that running quarry is even considered yet again, shouldnt even be something we should even think about yet here we are

next epoch Jun 15, 2019, 9:42 PM

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honestly I'm surprised they haven't modified quarry to make it less farmable in general

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:42 PM

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eh grinding is grinding

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who cares where it is

next epoch Jun 15, 2019, 9:43 PM

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well, that and harbor bridge, lol

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 9:45 PM

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you also get a ton of veiled stuff that you can sell to the recipe peeps

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I thought recipes were limited by ilvl

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And the most recent patch hurt that

hot ibex Jun 15, 2019, 9:46 PM

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that they are its none of my business what these people are doing with them lol

placid grotto Jun 15, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Now there's not much point in ele conversion gloves

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Not that I'm salty about that or anything

unborn ravine Jun 15, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Why are some Legion splinters selling for more than the emblem?

next epoch Jun 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

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@unborn ravine might be mispriced (or already sold) due to trade site lag

red jackal Jun 16, 2019, 1:00 AM

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because people who have 87 splinters might want to just buy 13 splinters

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to complete their own emblem, and are willing to pay a bit more than 13% of the emblem cost for it

tiny flint Jun 16, 2019, 1:00 AM

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I need some help opening 150 legion mobs for the challenge. I'm on tectonic slam

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is there a map with a good layout to make it happen

next epoch Jun 16, 2019, 1:02 AM

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@red jackal I assumed they meant that a single splinter was listed for more than the entire emblem

red jackal Jun 16, 2019, 1:03 AM

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oh :D

frosty reef Jun 16, 2019, 1:14 AM

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what actually drops legion jewels? I can't find that information anywhere

tiny flint Jun 16, 2019, 1:15 AM

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the domain fights

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I only tried a 2 way

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but didnt get one

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I guess they aren't guaranteed

frosty reef Jun 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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yeah i've done a 3-way and 2-way and haven't seen one

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but maybe I needed to kill more cycles?

quartz dome Jun 16, 2019, 1:33 AM

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oof, The Agnostic is sorta... oof

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Mana just drains constantly

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basically glued to zero

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very easy to just get cornered and wonder "why aren't my skills working" and then you die

elfin iron Jun 16, 2019, 1:57 AM

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do legion drops disappear if I die?

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I killed a general and I died

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came back and no drops there anymore

cursive widget Jun 16, 2019, 2:01 AM

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does anyone know if ilvl matters for incubators?

red jackal Jun 16, 2019, 2:11 AM

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no loot doesn't disappear

lament dagger Jun 16, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Ilvl doesnt matter for incubators

quaint light Jun 16, 2019, 3:10 AM

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anyone got a quick refrence for what each army looks like frozne?

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frozen

tiny flint Jun 16, 2019, 3:53 AM

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orange is karui, red is vaal, blue is eternal, green is templar, brown is maraketh

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though if u see dinos

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u'll know its maraketh

fickle current Jun 16, 2019, 3:54 AM

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I haven’t seen a Templar or Maraketh yet :/

tidal mantle Jun 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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guys how do you open map with 5 legions?

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and should i

placid grotto Jun 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

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You complete a 4 army challenge IIRC. Then you get awarded with the new device. Whether it's worth it, I've heard it's usually not

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But not done it personally

naive canopy Jun 16, 2019, 6:07 AM

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guys is there a way to check waht this :
Rarity: Unique
Lethal Pride
Timeless Jewel

Limited to: 1 Historic
Radius: Large

Item Level: 74

Commanded leadership over 15704 warriors under Kaom
Passives in radius are Conquered by the Karui
Historic

They believed themselves the greatest warriors, but that savagery turned upon their own.

Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.

is doing

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or the only way is to get to all them jewel slots and be done with it?

undone anchor Jun 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

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correct

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the only way to know is to slot it into a jewel slot

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Best way to figure it out. Make a scion and just level it to the point you have enough points on tre, and then regret everything

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Then just path to all sockets

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Then you can value all gems better

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 7:48 AM

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When is someone making an online tool where we can check these seeds 😦

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 7:50 AM

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how would that even work maia

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Not possible without formula, which isnt in client. Its server side. @haughty harbor otherwise we'd already have it

neat belfry Jun 16, 2019, 8:09 AM

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is it possible to skip doing the 4 way legion and just do the 5 way if you group with someone else?

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Sad times, guessing a lot of people will just get scammed, unless they go through the work of doing screensharing or a gif etc, none of it possible in-game

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:48 AM

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@haughty harbor most people are just selling them at a flat value for rarity. And letting people just reroll as needed. Instead of trying to do the work to make good ones sell unless that are insane out of the box

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:48 AM

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I see, just buy and divine until you can use it

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Basically

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Only one currently actually worth something is the maraketh. And thats cuz it seems like they are bugged and arent dropping. Cuz there were only 2 on the market

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Scary as it's part of a challenge to use them

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Actually its down to 1 jewel now @haughty harbor

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If that gives you an idea of rarity

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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A little bit too rare yeah

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:55 AM

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1 jewel in the entirety of SC trade for sale. Its nuts

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More rare than HH

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Still like 35ex right?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:55 AM

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40ex

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Going up fast

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:56 AM

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I mean as of baeclast there were 2, and both were over 40ex

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:56 AM

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If they don't sort out the drop rate there will be a lot of people on 39/40 at the end of the league

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Ah i thought i heard they were 35ex not too long ago

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Tbh, the solution may be actually just running them as a 2 army maraketh. To get them easier. Cuz doing higher actually would dilute the pool of options for it to drop

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Genuinely curious about if that will help increase drop rate.

People are barely running 4-5 armies cuz the cost.

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Doing 2 armies is still costly, but may help increase theoretical drop chances.

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Any comments from ggg in regards to the rarity?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 8:59 AM

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None that ive found

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 8:59 AM

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i think they have other issues atm (trade api)

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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True, but also means that it's possible that we are missing some mechanic to boost its drop rate as zetake mentioned

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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but tbh the good part about the jewel is name tells you what keystones will become

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so you cant be scammed mostly

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just not optimal subnodes

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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I thought only the number changed

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Name also?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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I mean, can also divine the keystone

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So, it realky doesnt matter @wet plaza

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Both, keystone and the number can be divined @haughty harbor

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 9:01 AM

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it does, divining can reroll keystones

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if you want a keystone divining is probably worse than reselling

haughty harbor Jun 16, 2019, 9:02 AM

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I see

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Eh

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Depends really

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Higher cost ones, like maraketh, just worth to divine it out.

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Also ima bet im right that, the only reason for the lack of maraketh is due to the volume of maraketh emblems being run is too low, and doing it on lower tier fights is going to help solve the problem. Because i did a quick look over the numbers of timeless jewels of all other factions. And templar, the second most expensive emblem, has produced 400, while the other 3, have produced about 800 that are up for sale each.

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Really, what im seeing is cost = not worth it to people, which is in turn causing the number of people running it to drop, which is causing the number on the market to be abysmal

gusty bison Jun 16, 2019, 9:55 AM

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Is there a benefit to using more Timeless Emblems at a time? i.e. should I save up for 5 when I can?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

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Outside of higher ilvl loot. We dont know @gusty bison

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

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you get more time too

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

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^

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

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and because there's a cd before you can revive the general

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more generals = more kills

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:01 AM

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Wait, really, there is a CD on that? @languid path TIL

gusty bison Jun 16, 2019, 10:01 AM

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ty

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:02 AM

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@gusty bison do note, a 5 army has near uber elder level HP

gusty bison Jun 16, 2019, 10:02 AM

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also ty. I did my 4 as my first, was thinking about doing a 5 next

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Have a bunch of Kauri/Vaal/Eternal emblems sitting around

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Yeah, unless you have rather minmaxed gear. Its really not worth.

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Due to 5 army HP being so high

gusty bison Jun 16, 2019, 10:03 AM

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I can clear an uber elder pretty quick, how bad is it?

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:03 AM

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yes, if you try to revive immediately after killing a general then he won't appear

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:04 AM

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@gusty bison well considering you need to burn them down in ~10 seconds to be able to profit any if you are lucky. Id say pretty bad

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:04 AM

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the templar guy has as much hp as shaper, if not more, from my experiece

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but just buy a little

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

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~10sec per boss*

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

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but they aren't dangerous

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

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True

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

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so just keep an eye out for their big attacks

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

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The rares are more dangerous than they are

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 10:06 AM

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I got 2 rows of loot the last time I did a 5 ways

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and came out with nothing except some maps and incubators

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Same on my few 4waye

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Map monolith feels better than the fight tbh

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:07 AM

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https://youtu.be/lf8QGuONYq0

YouTube

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5 Emblem, 38 Boss Kill,5 Loot Row Legion Loot Limit Run!

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▶ Play video

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Also in case ya didnt know. There is a loot limit

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Yeah I won't ever reach that clear. Neither own headhunter nor a support. But that vid showed me why I dislike supports being Abel to carry squishies so much.

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:42 AM

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@violet nymph i've been playing with divines right now

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on lethal pride kiloava/karui

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templar one seems like crap in general so that's probably last thing to play with

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Templar has 4 good notables

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3 of them are the exposure on hit

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:43 AM

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is there phys exposure on hit?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Nope

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:43 AM

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then ehhh

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:44 AM

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The last one is ele ailment immunity

low kindle Jun 16, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Physical resistance doesn't exist

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:44 AM

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^

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@dusty umbra

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:44 AM

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i mean there's intimidate on hit i've seen on my lethal pride at times

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:45 AM

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I just wish i could get my hands on a maraketh jewel.

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The 25% more crit has me interested

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

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The Karui/Kilova has two sets of notables, and it's hard to get a good set so far

It has burning dmg/totem stuff/5% dd / inti on hit / 4% life / ignites deal faster/fortify effect/fire resist/ 5% of phys taken as fire/ melee and phys dmg

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there's so many combinations for lethal pride

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half of them being a complete waste

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Ya know you can just see what they all have available right?

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On poedb

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

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ye

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I'm basically diving to have a good seed on all nodes i have available and hit a decent one, so i need to buy another pride before continuing to divine

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10% fortify effect (vigour) , 10% fortify effect(golem blood), 4% life(master of arena) , 5% chance to deal double DD(Destroyer) , 5% of Phys Taken as Fire(Titanic Impacts) , 20% burning dmg (Bravery)

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i have another pride wit 20% melee dmg/20% phys dmg/12% life

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Honestly, i feel like streamers and youtubers actually have an advantage this league. Mainly cuz when they get a good jewel they can actually sell them easily

dusty umbra Jun 16, 2019, 10:50 AM

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as far as splinters i feel like green/templar ones are rarer than mara

steel current Jun 16, 2019, 1:06 PM

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what are the colors are each of the factions before you break them out? do they match their splinter colors?

small mirage Jun 16, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Yeah

faint oracle Jun 16, 2019, 3:18 PM

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î hope 4.0 is gonna make ssf good

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 3:43 PM

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so am i required to just make an insanely defensive heavy build this league

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to not die to legion rare mobs

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i have a lot of mitigation for a life-based caster and im just getting one shot in red maps

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presumably because immortal call is no longer prevent death or whatever

patent canyon Jun 16, 2019, 3:46 PM

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if you dont even know ic changes i highly doubt you have "a lot of mitigation"

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 3:48 PM

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ok so i have 4400 ehp, 1800 mana with MoM, cwdt clarity tempest shield immortal call, cwdt blind armageddon brand, stone golem, ice golem, lightning golem, acrobatics, phase acrobatics, capped res, the two phys dmg reduction pantheon nodes, and atziri's step

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and i just get by one random kitava's herald rare on lava lake like a ranged hit

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and it makes me go to 100 hp and 0 mana

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it seems to me like i just have to have way more EHP and there's no way around it

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which seems really dumb

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

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what's dumb?

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

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i also have atziri's promise, 0.5% lightning dmg leeched as life in amulet, +14 life per enemy hit by spells on ring

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what's dumb to me is i have to put practically half or more of my nodes in my tree in life and likely get a 6 linked belly now just to have a better chance at not being one shot in red maps

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

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you have the basic necessity, then yeah, expect to die a lot

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there's nothing special about whatever you listed

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you get 1 shot big enough, you die

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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i don't think kitava's herald rares should do 5500 damage with one ranged attack

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in a tier 13

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to me that seems like waht the boss should do with the telegraphed moves

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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well maybe 'cause your build isn't good enough then

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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isn't good enough means

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not having ridiculous build dedication to life or es with ways to sustain it and literally no other variety

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cool game balance

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 3:55 PM

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yeah, very good game balance imo, not to dumb it down everytime someone with a bad build cry about dying

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

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what a ridiculous statement

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requiring high flat health is bad balance

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u either have really high flat reserve or you literally one shot everything with 10 trillion damage

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those are ur two options

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 3:58 PM

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sure, it's an rpg, get enough life or enough dmg or both

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number is everything

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now if your problem is not being able to get enough of either of those then it's a matter of not being good enough

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everyone dies

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the question is how often

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

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i do a decent amount i would think about 700k

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i'm using enki's arc elementalist build

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with like 10-15 ex in gear

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 4:01 PM

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rip you

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 4:01 PM

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if you do 700k dps with 10-15ex in gear then yeah

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the problem isn't the game

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it's you

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:02 PM

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?

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maybe it's less but there is a 6L inpulsa

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and i have multiple stacked crit multi jewels

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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listing those things aren't gonna change the fact that you do half the dmg of any decent build on a budget and is dying often enough to complain about it on a 10-15ex investment

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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all of my rares have damage on them in addition to heath res

languid path Jun 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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and that sounds like a serious build issue or player issue

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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well i mean regular mobs packs just die in like one hit

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it's legion rares and random rares like kitava's heralds

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so you think i should do 1.5 million dps with 10 ex in gear?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Hell, most builds nowdays do 1.5 mil dps with a pretty meh weapon, and a tabula

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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B)

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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So, @languid path is right. Either its your build. Or you.

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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faust's comment seems to make me think the build is just donger

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Also i will say this. Enki's arc witch was never meant to last super far into the game now that elementalist got gutted. Its a build to teach the game to ya.

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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i mean elementalist got a huge nerf bat

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arc got nerfed a ton

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Its basically a newbie build so they can learn the game and move on now

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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well im not even using arc on it cuz i dont like the way that skills feels so i'm using shock nova and i used pob to fix the gems with it since the arc ones he was using didn't suit it well

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Well, then ima say, dont play witch.

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Its pretty bad rn

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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what is it play assassin or play melee?

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or ranger

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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You can play spells with templar or shadow, or play melee or bow builds on the bottom half of the tree.

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Hell even chieftain works for spells/totems

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

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shock nova seems to require a more tanky base since its like melee spellcasting

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

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How much %life do you have on tree rn

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

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loading pob

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136

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

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So to feel comfortable on basically any build you want like, 170

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At minimum

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Melee range skills like bv for example want a bit higher for safety

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Its no wonder you feel like you need something tankier tho. 136 is weak shit.

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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but i have all the other stuff i listed

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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How much HP do you have

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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why is all that stuff irrelevant

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i have 4000 hp 400 es, 1800 mana with MoM

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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es is basically gone in an instant so not counting

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Because defense is more valuable at the end of the day

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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if you have no sustain neither of the pools will help a bunch

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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i think i can get 170 with my current tree without deviating

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Cuz cant do much while dead

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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as long as i put 7% max life in some of my jewels

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4 health nodes and 7% max life in 2 jewels would give me 171%

wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

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how much are you leeching/regenerating?

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

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^

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

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0.5% from amulet, 14 per enemy hit by spell on ring, stone golem

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

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@pseudo hull can i get your pob?

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I want to glance at your tree

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

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https://pastebin.com/45TsFj9y

Pastebin

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wet plaza Jun 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

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!pob https://pastebin.com/45TsFj9y

Pastebin

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rigid lakeBOT Jun 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Shock Nova - Elementalist (Lvl: 88) by: Faust

General

Life: 3,882 (136%) | Reg: 157/s (4.0%) | Leech 838/s (21.6%)
Mana: 1,518/1,715 (84%) | Reg: 124/s (7.3%)
Secondary: Dodge: 52% | Spell Dodge: 30%
Keystones: Phase Acrobatics, Acrobatics, Mind Over Matter

Offense

DPS: 154,808@ 4.37/s
Crit: Chance 20.04% | Multiplier: 369%

Main Skill

Shock Nova + Spell Echo + Hypothermia + Added Lightning Damage + Lightning Penetration + Controlled Destruction

Info:

Pastebin | Web Tree | Web PoB (new!) | Web Viewer
Created in Path of Building.

pseudo hull Jun 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

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154k unbuffed u gotta put in chilled, shocked, power charges, diamond flask, to get the 700k or whatever

violet nymph Jun 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

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So, acro/phase acro is actually kinda bad this league with all the scrary shit hitting hard or is degen

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If you take the hit. You are dead

guys is there a way to check waht this : Rarity: Unique Lethal Pride Timeless Jewel

Limited to: 1 Historic Radius: Large

Item Level: 74

Commanded leadership over 15704 warriors under Kaom Passives in radius are Conquered by the Karui Historic

They believed themselves the greatest warriors, but that savagery turned upon their own.

guys is there a way to check waht this :
Rarity: Unique
Lethal Pride
Timeless Jewel

Limited to: 1 Historic
Radius: Large

Commanded leadership over 15704 warriors under Kaom
Passives in radius are Conquered by the Karui
Historic