oh yeah gluttony, hmmm, zerker+cyclone would be pretty good with gluttony
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midnight phoenix
gluttony dofl
such combos
mang im looking at slayer overleech earthquake rn
i do not have dofl gem cos that gem is no bueno
silver kettle
is it 2.3 again
midnight phoenix
2.3 earthquake got dumpstered i think, it was op in 2.2 when i played it
dusty umbra
real question is how big of an AoE radius we will get on cyclone bois 
silver kettle
no because 2.2 was when ascs came out and everyone thought slayer was a joke but I was playing it
unique widget
Didn't they say that life leech gem would get same treatment as energy leech?
silver kettle
then 2.3 was when everyone played it
dusty umbra
Something like 40-50 is within realm of possibility
midnight phoenix
what im really looking forward to is seeing how good vaal earthquake is at cracking legion shells
silver kettle
maybe 67% as good as cyclone if you try really hard
dusty umbra
Real question tho is what do we cwdt
silver kettle
is vortex the only cwdt thing left?
midnight phoenix
csnap
dusty umbra
wave of conviction for elemental builds
unique widget
I'll still be doing cwdt enfeeble :)
languid path
ofc it's cwdt + offense curse
it's all about the deep
if you don't hit 10mil dps this patch you never will
unique widget
You can get 500k-1m dps with almost to investment if you just don't go melee because "Anything not melee is dead in 3.7" huehue.
dusty umbra
i already hit 20m cwc inci last
unique widget
LOL I have 100m dps viperstrike pob.
So it abuses moltenstrike with more projectiles a sihtton of AS and then uses a viperstrike slappin afterwards for that juicy "Theoretical" but completely impossible to get in a real scenario viperstrike dps.
dusty umbra
As far as starforge shock goes, if Average damage is going to in like 200k range and mh hit half that, that's like few % shock we can expect from it right
And on crit shock chance shows as 100% but that's probably just few % shock on bosses like shaper since they have some much hp
midnight phoenix
well, shaper has 20m hp
so if u have 100k hits that's 0.5% of his max hp
so u will get uh
2% shocks
dusty umbra
Alright so can probably expect ~5%-7% shock maybe with full gear
languid path
limpid wigeon
its not
gaunt charm
Pulverise looks amazing in general
ocean loom
limpid wigeon
correct
knotty yew
Don't thank ggg, thank the reddit "synthesis is trash I hate everything about it" army
limpid wigeon
synth was trash
gaunt charm
so just to be clear, if i have multistrike linked to bladestorm, one click means i will do all three bladestorms fairly quickly, one below the damage I would have had if I had a damage support instead, one at the same damage, and one at higher damage, so it comes out totaly even other than faster attack time?
limpid wigeon
correct
dusty umbra
Damn i need my updated pob glasses with all these new gems
gaunt charm
hmm. Wonder how bladestorm and melee splash interact.
gaunt charm
ah, forgot that was a new keyword, thank you
marsh wagon
skip cwdt
without immortal call, its down to phase run, if that's not to your liking skip cwdt
knotty yew
Steelskin will absorb 2.2k damage
patent canyon
enough to not get blown up by porcs
knotty yew
and you'd need a level 20 cwdt for taht
Eeeeh I strongly doubt it, honestly, if you're getting blown up by porcs, it's usually vastly overkill
marsh wagon
maybe just skip it and have extra incubating gems for profit?
knotty yew
I'm not planning on using it personally
patent canyon
there are no incubating gems 😛
knotty yew
but then again I'll be bleedsploding so porcs shouldn't be much of a problem haha
marsh wagon
for more lv20s to vaal
patent canyon
you place them in items not in gem slots
knotty yew
dude you understood what he meant
patent canyon
no i didnt
knotty yew
we're not on facebook, let's not focus on the semantics while ignoring the pragmatics
fallow steppe
dear all, i really, really really want to make a infernal blow build this league, will it work on legion?
knotty yew
he obviously meant "extra gems to level and sell"
marsh wagon
lets not argue on this, there are funner things to speak of
fallow steppe
i mean on statuer or whatevet there is
patent canyon
wasnt really obvious to be fair. we have eggs to grow
knotty yew
As for you Satorin - I think you can probably find something to add
If it's solely an anti-porcs mechanic, CWDT offering is probably good enough
marsh wagon
i'm running dual curse maladict vortex
prolly will just stuff whatever the most profitable gem is to sell
knotty yew
enlighten
marsh wagon
with thicc es and all i don't think there's really much use for cwdt if its not immunity so i'll have extra slots
pine forge
@fallow steppe we don't now right now. but GGG said ED + cont works on legions so there will be some kind of on death effect we just dont know if IB will deal dmg
fallow steppe
yea besides that i heard it might not work cause there're no corpses to explode
on that baeclast
so thats might be unfortunate
twin iris
buoyant arrow
Stun Mastery 😄 so epic
marsh wagon
corpse explosion is chaos dmg? i think we'll see monsters use that
magic stirrup
any idea on what the popular existing method of making currency are in the new league?
marsh wagon
chaos recipe will always be there for you
west fiber
hmm, I wonder what the vaal variant of the new gems do
kindred dagger
i guess the best char type that win this league is aura bot 😂
marsh wagon
its not the element avoidance its the status, the dots, the ignites, the shocks, the freezes
u either cycle your flasks or go for full immunities
kindred dagger
honestly people seemed hype by flicker strike but its nerf this league right ? it sucks like a lot ?
ok you can have free frenzy charge but like we care ? build allready allowed you to 100% stack charge that wasnt a problem but the new game lost a lot it lost MORE attack speed for just an increse attack speed we have movement speed the fuck.... and we have 8% more damage on the skill seems
Not sure about all of this if its a buff or a nerf it looks more a nerf for an easy way to stack frenzy.
The question is that maybe now as we got an easier way to stack frenzy charge maybe that give new builds that in the end could be stronger or just more versatile but again not sure and not sure that i like much this change
wild arch
I can't figure out how impale would work on perforate
First hit doesn't consume impale so you generate 5 and use 4 stacks
Second hit should use and create all 5 stacks
So you can't max it out unless you go champion?
No wait each hit should create its own 5 stacks meaning you cap out on the first hit
viscid chasm
Do the legion enemies activate after a timer or do you have to click/interact with something after doing damage to them?
marsh wagon
from what we know, we have 15s to "kill" them
when u drop their hp to 0 and kill them, after the timer ends they spawn as targetable loot dropping enemies
viscid chasm
Thanks. Wasn't sure how flicker would work out if I had to travel back to something afterwards to click.
quick nimbus
i have some molten shell questions, can the damage "reflected" be modified with support gems, IE. fire pen, ele overload, conc effect, spell damage modifiers? I understand that reflected damage is considered "my" damage and on hit things do not work so possibly the fire lowering aspect of fire pen gem wont work as it is a "on hit" mechanic, but what about modifiers to the damage overall.. ive scoured the forums and wiki and only really found that my accuracy affects reflected damages chance to hit me, so would my damage modifiers not work as monsters damage mods not work against me?
violet nymph
does anyone know when well have the new gems in pob?
@violet nymph post launch
wait what really
@violet nymph yes
smoky fiber
yea, he said he wouldn't add gems until after patch drops, and would probably take a day or two
summer magnet
60% of base would basicly mean 40% less attack speed right?
violet nymph
Yes
i'm probably not gonna start with it, but sometime during the league i want to play ice crash juggernaut
summer magnet
ty
violet nymph
ice crash got a 20% increased aoe buff at it's base, and pulverise is MORE aoe
and juggernaut has aoe per endurance charge
summer magnet
yeah the pulverise basicly gives another +10 aoe
violet nymph
so in this context, ice crash will basically play like a MUCH better doryani's touch
screenwide clear with a slow hit
summer magnet
sooo...
karmic sphinx
people still talking about aoe when we have cleave LUL
summer magnet
This is with 2 mill dps (sacrificed 1 mil for the aoe for faster cleave lol)
https://gyazo.com/a98f039ba40fd2a192fde9014ba1ddb6
clear*
fallen tulip
competition for tectonic slam
summer magnet
i forgot the 50% increased aoe from sandstance
violet nymph
wait what skill is that
summer magnet
it's my secret :3
It starts with an L that's all the help i can give without hating myself!
karmic sphinx
leap slam Pog
violet nymph
wait is it seriously leap slam
hybrid cosmos
Its LeTectonic Slam
karmic sphinx
lacerate
summer magnet
^bingo
violet nymph
i was just about to say lol
marsh wagon
is each circle +10% aoe?
violet nymph
yeah that's a fucking nutty lacerate
each circle is +10 radius
which is a whole lot different than +10% aoe
otherwise you'd just put a carcass jack on and have massive aoe
summer magnet
violet nymph
fucking hell
summer magnet
this is while im in sand stance xD
violet nymph
you can use pulverise with cyclone, fun fact
summer magnet
ye this would be with pulverize, inc aoe, and sand stance
i don't think i can simulate cyclone properly
due to the stages...
but the aoe is pretty fucking nutty
hybrid cosmos
just add the max stage
summer magnet
the thing is if pob isn't coded to know what "max stages" are then it won't do anything
hybrid cosmos
oh lol i tought its a value you can change
summer magnet
nah the way im simulating the new gems is by making a jewel that gives the missing stats 😃
summer magnet
hmm ill try to look it up and give a preview
solid nova
what's the new cap on flat life abyss jewels?
fallen tulip
40
solid nova
or did they only change damage
placid grotto
Thought the cap was 40 flat
solid nova
was 50 flat
summer magnet
radius is aoe tho
violet nymph
or on the tree lmao
hybrid cosmos
rip ):
solid nova
hell, if you're going to use a daresso's anyway, just modify the statline on it
summer magnet
im not
violet nymph
has to be this exact mod
summer magnet
im trying to simulate cyclone aoe
violet nymph
+# melee weapon and unarmed attack range
summer magnet
gonna try
solid nova
capitalization matters too IIRC
violet nymph
not in my experience, but better to be safe
i still can't fucking believe this is with 0 investment
solid nova
I mean, I vaguely remember needing to fix caps to get voidforge to work properly when it was released
violet nymph
on the lowest rolled of each unique
violet nymph
seriously, berserker terminus est flicker strike might be the cheapest yet most powerful version of flicker strike possible
summer magnet
also im not sure cyclone benefits from the 34% more area of effect
summer magnet
nvm it does
but it only gain so little compared to lacerate
using this to simulate the aoe of cyclone
this is the result :
Not very accurate i think
violet nymph
there is no way that's what it will look like
my current cyclone has about that aoe
fallen tulip
or Lacerate gets fucking huge bonus to radius from sand stance alone
summer magnet
i mean my lacerate with the clear speed setup is 3x the size xD
ye the sand stance gets 50% increased area of effect úntop fo the 15% more area of effect 😛
cyclone doesn't actually have anything different in sand / blood stance like lacerate does
fallen tulip
where's that 49% more area of effect from?
violet nymph
this is my aoe currently on my slayer cyclone from betrayal
summer magnet
the 49% is 15% from sand stance and 34% from pulverize
yeah i ain't saying the aoe is accurate
im just saying i don't know how to simulate cyclone properly
fallen tulip
Weell we gotta take into mind that Lacerate isn't exactly a spinning orb
it's a projectile that flies a certain range
summer magnet
im definitely gonna swap out melee phys support for new forify tho
yeah, i don't hit all around me. Im basicly hitting 45% of the circle
violet nymph
my bowslayer should get me pretty far as a starter
that tree is for when i have lioneye's glare, before that i can get accuracy nodes along the way to make leveling easy
the notables acuity and far sight should be able to carry me entirely
Man i really hope i can get a vaal jewel with 9% life nodes for everything ive got the best place for it on my tree
i'm gonna wait to get the jewels before trying to make builds around them lol
violet nymph
@violet nymph that was a i have a spot in my tree regardless that just makes sense to put one. Not that im building around it
Im traveling across the bottom of the tree
summer magnet
they buffed ruthless blows :3
violet nymph
And being able to drop the scion wheel for all those bottom of tree nodes as 9% life nodes would be godly
Less travel and way more life
summer magnet
yeah more damage
violet nymph
and you can cancel out of it now
violet nymph
multistrike is getting used for my flicker berserker
and the damage is already fucking nuts with 0 investment
knotty yew
I just realized something horrible
violet nymph
if berserker existed in its current state in synthesis, i could've had that build ready in <20c
knotty yew
Something that is triggering me to no end when it comes to my bleed build
I'm dual wielding axes but I still get to pick a sword node and a bow node just for the sheer amount of damage the "bleedings you inflict deal damage 15% faster" brings to the table
violet nymph
perandus is available this league
varunastra bleed builds are gonna be fucking real
knotty yew
idk, they removed most of the multi-weapon nodes
violet nymph
well, the point is that you can take advantage of the bleed mods on different weapon types
so go farm reef for it
knotty yew
I mean
Yeah, you'd get better nodes, but you'd lose the 60% chance for 100% more bleed damage
overall, I'll stick with rares
knotty yew
earfquake I guess
summer magnet
Lacerate
every skill shows as a circle, but lacerate doesn't hit all around me it does hit that big of an area in the direction im targeting tho
dusty salmon
But its also directional
I suppose your result is with all the range nodes + aoe nodes + carcass + twin 3-white prismatics?
Plus flask
Jewels and belt can also corrupt into AoE iirc
summer magnet
it's not
cheap budget gear
but with both pulverize and inc aoe jewel and sand stance
nothing else
with carcass jack... my aoe would be alot more
This is with carcass to compare @dusty salmon
wait
dusty salmon
. . .
dusty salmon
I think we've gone too far
summer magnet
HAHA
dusty salmon
XDDD
summer magnet
still 1.3 mill dps tho
dusty salmon
LOL
summer magnet
actually 15% less due than 1.3 due to sand storm
dusty salmon
My theorycrafted build does 300-ish k...
summer magnet
this is with budget gear :3
soul taker, 300phys dps axe carcass, (abyssus tho which will be expensive) and hemophelia gloves rest is rare items with pretty much nothing on them
dusty salmon
Hp tho?
summer magnet
with carcass:
https://gyazo.com/1b0aa2259740c7e20091aabb0c26e968
with belly:
https://gyazo.com/30d425bd9e52ec704ee2039d11bc1c5b
dusty salmon
In betrayal i had a 1.8k health flicker raider. It could teleport 30+times per second
Never playing that again. Whites oneshot her xD
summer magnet
ye that sounds horrible
summer magnet
yeah i generally dislike flicker.. it's a fun skill all in all.. but just not fun playing yourself xD
placid grotto
If you're moving that fast, how do you get hit? Don't monsters have windup?
summer magnet
you looking at my 210% move speed?
dusty salmon
Now they do, they didnt use to. Not as much, and attacks were homing
As long as you were in range
So it was like.. oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora-slap.
summer magnet
the 210% is only due to 50% from phase run.. i think i have like 160% without phaserun
placid grotto
Ah ok
dusty salmon
Dead. Didnt help that damage was under 10k
It was just a stupid build based on how many teleports per second i could achieve
I think i ended at 30-something, though the game just couldnot handle it
And it lagged like hell
wide totem
twin rampart
not sure pob actually calculates aoe correctly
summer magnet
yeah im not sure either
since we don't have the actual gems
but it looks juicy
man only 27 hours to go!
vale briar
Any specific ascendancy that would work well with bladestorm
quaint sentinel
I wonder how rage will work with the storms
wild arch
Assuming blood perforate has 5 spears that's 300% damage scaling per hit
wild arch
And I can almost guarantee it will have extra spear enchants
quaint sentinel
I think they mentioned that they wont be adding helm enchants for new skills initially
wild arch
Yeah not initially but they will eventually
Extra spears is just the most obvious choice
Also bladestorm has 160% scaling plus 3 storms with half of that each
bitter goblet
what support gem was it that would favor slower attack speed?
quartz dome
Pulverize it feels like?
wild arch
Pulverize
quartz dome
Maybe wrong
bitter goblet
oh yea i guess that makes sense
wild arch
200% more damage every second
quaint sentinel
I just have questions about how berserker nodes wil lwork with the storms
because it seems like with bladestorm you wanna drop a storm
then move
then drop another storm and keep moving
instead of spending a lot of time attacking
wild arch
Basically think of them as mini you
quaint sentinel
Are you sure they will work that way? Im not sure they will.
wild arch
Drop sandstorms along the way to clear mobs, and stack bloodstorms on bosses for mad dps
It says they attack with your weapon's damage and speed
quaint sentinel
I just havent seen any definite answers on how the mechanics of them work, so im not sure they will generate rage/blitz stuff or even other charges
wild arch
They should
Since it's not a minion or totem of any sorts
They're literally extensions of your attack
native sonnet
wet plaza
minions cannot splash :<
frail mirage
Minions cannot multistrike
violet nymph
So you get
30% increased movement speed (ms) from triple rage
35% from boots
20% from onslaught
70% from rotgut
40% fron phase run
Total: 195% inc
Berserk gives you 30% more.
195×1.3=253.5% ms
jagged surge
god id need gem updates in pob 😦
frail mirage
I do not sorry :/ I assume the attack rate would be the same rate they would just slam more often
half charm
for perforate blood stance, can you stand in place and hit ppl with cursor far away?
wild arch
Your guess is as good as anyone elses'
lyric burrow
only mods i see effecting zombie slam are a gem and a ascendant. and a lab enchant
austere anvil
with blood & sand and flesh & stone being max level 6, will their exp requirement also increase exponentially like it does with level 20 gems? does anyone have a clue about that?
limpid wigeon
lmao thanks for crit maces ggg
austere anvil
maces are meant for crit, what did you expect
limpid wigeon
truly 10 iq tree placement
i mean you say maces aren't made for crit but I'm pretty sure a design goal of this update was to make the various weapon types more balanced since there was literally no reason to use any basetype outside of swords unless you were using specific uniques
compare it to any other weapon type and their accuracy nodes and crit nodes are fairly close together
frail mirage
Wait wait wait... no reason seems a little strong because alot of people use claws for life gain on hit (which btw is going to be interesting to try to min max for this leauge... like is cyclone the best or is it still molten strike or would double strike with overlapping melee splash going to take the cake for the largest number of hits)
limpid wigeon
cyclone would be better for lgoh stacking but it wont be enough either way
formal vale
Many think Cyclone will be OP, but do we know anything about the "hit rate per spin"? In the old Cyclone you hit twice per attack cycle, which means that the 56% dmg per hit was doubled in terms of weapon dmg per attack cycle. But unless I miss something that would be silly if that is still there in the new Cyclone.
limpid wigeon
lgoh is only really relevant with something like molten strike or barrage, perhaps now perforate
true bridge
Will the Bladestorms "Storms" count as hits by you for the purpose of LGOH?
limpid wigeon
good question
frail mirage
@true bridge only with the watcher's eye mods all other sources are attack only
tiny flint
How does smite interact with melee splash and ancesetral call?
limpid wigeon
bladestorm is an attack
tiny flint
Will I get multiple bolts?
limpid wigeon
smite works poorly with melee splash ancestral call will give you multiple bolts but they do not shotgun
frail mirage
wait my bad for some reason I was thinking bladefall
limpid wigeon
ancestral is pretty much required to clear with smite
frail mirage
But yeah shoud be intersting if bladestorm works that could be cool depending on how fast it ticks
limpid wigeon
i assume it works at your attack spee
true bridge
I was thinking with enough attack speed (berserker) and lgoh you could have multiple bladestorms going as a sort of health recharge station
limpid wigeon
that might work if the bladestorm damage stacks up on a single target
which it might but my guess is that only one storm will do damage at once
wild arch
How's this for a pure phys build? 🤔
limpid wigeon
looks low on life at a glance
you should definitely take the impale chance node
you also should probably take the marauder starting health instead of pathing into tireless
i wouldn't take champion of the cause
what do you plan on reserving?
thats 3 points for 4% mana reservation reduction, not gonna help
wild arch
Why should I need the impale chance if it's already 100%?
limpid wigeon
and 12% aura effect
oh you're 100 thats fair i guess i didnt see champ
i would take first to strike last to fall instead of inspirational personally
frail mirage
Also incase no one noticed berzerk is not a guard skill so ig you are talented enough you could rotate between berzerk and a guard skill (esp something like immortal call with no damage cap) and have less damage taken all the time
Of couse this only works if you invest into a rage support gem or are a berzerker
wild arch
It's only 161% life but I play softcore and hopefully molten shell should carry the hp pool a bit
limpid wigeon
i cant tell what your weapon type is
smoky fiber
tbh, I feel like adamant is a pretty high skill cap node, if you can pull it off really effectively you could get away with significantly less hp
limpid wigeon
you have only generic damage nodes
wild arch
That's because I'm still undecided 😅
limpid wigeon
you should probably choose a type of weapon because generic damage nodes are usually weaker than specific ones
wild arch
It's like my mind is telling me perforate but my soul is screaming shockwave earthquake
limpid wigeon
you're also capped on points which I probably wouldn't do unless you actually plan to go for level 100, might as well cut 10 of the worst points right now
i generally hit level 92-95 on my builds but i never plan anything over 90 because ill get it too late to be building around
smoky fiber
yea, that's kind of a good rule of thumb.. cause after level 90 or so you really need your build fully online to progress further anyway
wild arch
I cut off the aura and iron reflex stuff
limpid wigeon
i would probably cut steadfast fortify wheel you're way overkill on secondary defenses and you're neglecting your primary defense life to do it
smoky fiber
yea, I was thinking same
wild arch
This brings me down to lvl 90
limpid wigeon
are you going to use enduring cry or are you just relying on inexorable to sustain end charges because the latter aint gunna be enough
i definitely wouldnt take the jewel socket above RT
wild arch
Not sure why I picked those up tbh
limpid wigeon
you proobably want to path your build out of the attack speed section of duelist rather than the physical damage part, generally speaking attack speed is rarer on tree so increases to it are larger
art of the gladiator is a super nice node too i would definitely recommend picking it up, even though the accuracy is wasted for champ 12% attack speed is super nice for 1 point
wild arch
Something like this?
limpid wigeon
yeah thats much better
idk you have a loooot of armour nodes and im not convinced that is a good idea
everyone is really excited about molten shell but imo it looks preeeetty gimmicky, steelskin is basically just as good
wild arch
I got rid of armour and endurance nodes
wild arch
I kept soul of steel, juggernaut and diamond skin
limpid wigeon
mmm im not super sold on diamond skin
for just one point more you could path into duelist section from strong arm or butchery, or you could come in through the strength nodes under it and save some points
wild arch
I'll grab butchery
Or strong arm .-.
Still can't decide on what skill setup to actually use
Whatever it is it's definitely pure phys
limpid wigeon
this is a tree i farted out under the assumption its 2h swords
level 90 187% life
idk how good it really is cos this tree is real crowded now
and there's a lot of good shit all over
limpid wigeon
if it benefits from the innate conversion of the supported skill i cant wait to use it for Infernal blow
wild arch
I came up with earthquake
tiny flint
I was thinking Static strike, so I become an autobomber but melee
wild arch
If you sync up their timers you can pull off 2 shockwaves in 1 hit
tiny flint
Buuuuut, it converts so that lowers the impale bonuses that seem to be the rage now
wild arch
To put it simply impale is 100% of phys added as phys
limpid wigeon
yeah do not go impale + a conversion ksill
conversion skills are probably dead now which is sad
tiny flint
If I can't go impale, then wtf am I scaling it with?
limpid wigeon
i mean in theory elemental penetration in practice probably nothing and you will perform significantly worse than flavour of the meta impale champions
limpid wigeon
earthquake seems pretty good to me
tiny flint
for impale as well because of the AS difference
I'd be down to do like mace shockwave eq
might be good for opening legions
limpid wigeon
i dont think impale cares about attack speed
im pretty sure it has an infinite duration
tiny flint
Ah, that makes it a lot more interesting
Im worried that once my gear gets better
I wont need shockwave anymore
limpid wigeon
shockwave is a single target gem
it isn't for clear
when you're clearing you should be 1 shotting packs especially if you're hitting slow enough to be running shockwave
wild arch
Shockwave eq allows you to hit a boss 4 times very hard in 1 hit
limpid wigeon
shockwave mainly to me looks like a single target steroid, if you're hitting once every second its a very large more multiplier kinda
i cant wait to be disappointed by it when i play my infernal blow build and realise half of it is eaten by avatar of fire
wild arch
Do you think losing the disemboweling wheel is bad?
wild arch
I copied your tree and it's level 83
wild arch
Did you count in quest points?
wild arch
Oh nvm I skipped something
limpid wigeon
you probably want to grab butchery instead of razors edge btw, i just checked and butchery is more dps
might change if i added and actual skill gem but based purely on basic attack thats what pob tells me
wild arch
So the idea here is that I could possibly grab rt and the jewel above it in case I get a legion jewel
limpid wigeon
i think the legion jewels are gonna be real bad especially in that spot in particular
they seem more like the kind of thing that you find and then make a whole new build around rather than dropping into your current build
wild arch
Does it matter for any of them apart from the vaal one?
limpid wigeon
well the vaal one is the only one that even looks good to me
if it really turns nearby points and notables into % maximum life then its an auto slot for many builds
the others seem very very very gimmicky
based on the keystones we've seen so far none of them really work for your build
like if you find one and you wanna try it out you can allocate them
wild arch
Have you noticed the insane synergy between vaal keystones and a stitched demon build?
wild arch
Butchery having more dps than razor makes sense since it has attack speed while razor has bleed stuff
Alright this tree looks good for a generic starter thanks for the help 
limpid wigeon
mmm its just kinda awkward lookin
no worries might be a good idea to get a 2nd opinion
wild arch
I can ask a friend tomorrow
Although not sure how much he'll be useful since in the past few years the only attack builds he ever played was a flicker and a reave
thorny arrow
does 2h get an auto 60% more modifier, or will stats just start to be 60% more on 2h
thorny arrow
so the bonus doesn't extend to skill bonuses, etc. Just bigger base damage on weapon and stats on weapons
limpid wigeon
yeah i think so i might be wrong but im pretty sure
thorny arrow
wonder how much that will do towards making them good
limpid wigeon
"All added damage modifiers on two-handed weapons are now 160% of the values of their one-handed counterparts. This takes the new higher values at the top end into account -- even they are 160% of their one-hand versions."
limpid wigeon
so looking on PoB a top rolled flaring (t1 added phys) is 27 - 49 for 1h and 38 - 68 for 2h
thorny arrow
guess it really depends how much external damage, etc is from non-weapon sources
limpid wigeon
i don't know dahbomb
i assume there's no delay and it just happens, it probably looks different to EQ but GGG have been lazier in the past
lament dagger
Yea I assume therr is no delay
limpid wigeon
so 2H flaring will now be 43 - 78
lament dagger
Am just talking about its AOE and animation
limpid wigeon
so that's ok? doesn't seem that good to me
yeah the aoe and animation are unknown we'll just have to see
violet nymph
so my league starter is gonna be gladiator facebreaker reckoning
with 4l cyclone to clear trash
because of reckoning's changes, we're looking at possibly over a million average damage per blocked hit
if you're facebreaker, anyway
frail mirage
Current stats allow you to take 100% less physical damage taken fron hits with 100% uptime but it requires alot of micromanagment.
If you have fortify with all of the buffs for it, infused channeling on a gem with a "physical" tag, artic armor. Then you need to swap between a guard skill like immortal call and berzerk
Then you need to generate rage and and endurance charges and rotate between those 2.... (depending on what level you can get the gems you may need ichimonji to get to 100%)
Btw all of this is probably not worth the investment because it is alot for immunity only to hits from one damage type... but it is a little funny
native sonnet
less are multiplier with each other
frail mirage
Oh you are rright I was thinking decreased so this probably gets you to about 80% or so I could redo the math in a sec lol
Looks like you get to ~70% which (on permanant uptime) and ~93 (when you switch from berzerk to immortal call))
And 95% if for some reason you berzerk while immortal call is up
wintry lantern
Increased impale effect won't apply to impales from my minions via dread banner, correct?
violet nymph
For the gem multistrike, whats the difference between attack damage and "damage".
wintry lantern
damage is from all sources, attack damage is only for attack skills
for that particular gem, nothing
placid grotto
Don't worry; I had the same thought initially about stacking them
naive hornet
The Legion NPC has been announced?
leaden sequoia
cypher if you have increased impale effect from the tree it should
from the gem only if it's socketed in with the minion
gritty ember
increased impale effect on tree wont impact your minions
just like nothing else on tree impacts your minions unless it explicitly says it would, eg says minion/allies/etc
copper kernel
can minions even impale
kindred dagger
wasnt the build with heraldt of purity with gladiator the purpose of this, having miniion impale with you
wild arch
Nah you solve the 2 biggest problems of minions by taunting everything and making them never miss
Also your auras are a bit stronger I guess
Wait you said gladiator not champion
quiet geyser
You can link Impale support to it probebly
And then Banner with generosety, if you dont want to impale
wintry lantern
I just wish PoB could calculate impale
leaden sequoia
just link the impale support to your lightning golem so when it spreads its aura everything gets it
like how it works with knockback
or chance to flee, other on-hit supports
native sonnet
why ?
ur lightning golem has like nowhere near meaningful physical dmg , so even if it impales, the dmg is negligible
dusty umbra
if you take impale clusters it's pretty much 50% more dmg
leaden sequoia
for the meme sieg
gritty ember
what meme? you wont even be able to notice the damage if you try to measure it
quiet geyser
interessting
kindred dagger
Interesting that probably mean 6link will be even more cheaper maybe
as some basic 6link are pretty affordable in the end
dusty umbra
I mean just a free divine orb
silver kettle
You know it's going to be rare as shit though
Like the delve box that drops a 6L unique
How often do you see those
wild arch
That's a thing?
copper kernel
yes
lyric ore
what room?
copper kernel
armor/weapon
lunar oxide
Hi does anybody know if minion are getting the ''cone effect'' on there attack
lunar oxide
Thx !!!
dusty umbra
7k life and ~2k-3k es good for soultether build?
odd steeple
Yeah? I mean that's good for any build
quaint sentinel
2h or dual wield for bladestorm glad?
fallen ember
Really depends on you, you should make what you think is of your interest
tiny flint
Hey can someone tell me if I'm calculating shield charge flat damage correctly?
https://pastebin.com/vEmTtAKJ With this tree, I end up with like 5k armor from my shield. Which would be something like 666-999 physical damage on top of the built in damage for shield charge
Am I actually get this much flat damage from shield charge? I plan on using Shield charge, pulverize, shockwave, impale, and melee physical damage/faster attacks/rage for my 5L
wild arch
I can't check it atm but are you trying to use the increased shield stat nodes?
tiny flint
yea
wild arch
Those don't work
tiny flint
they.. dont?
wild arch
Same as spectral shield throw
tiny flint
well shit
wild arch
Yeah it's only gonna scale off your base shield
tiny flint
back to the drawing board I go
tiny flint
I guess I'll try to make a static strike build
violet nymph
thats cool too
tiny flint
What ascendancy is best for it tho?
violet nymph
I recommend static strike CoC Cospris
tiny flint
I want to do static strike shockwave
violet nymph
assassin if its CoC
tiny flint
which is similar but not coc
tiny flint
what makes it bad as starter?
violet nymph
imagine revving up your static strike then hooking into a pack or vice verca
Zerker is more of someting you do when you have money
bc you take extra dmg and have crazy scalings
so it would suck with bad gear
tiny flint
mm makes sense
violet nymph
a start build can function without good gear
tiny flint
I just want a build that's not super meta
violet nymph
if you pick someting that needs gear or a unique you will burn out
tiny flint
and can make me some money
wild arch
I'm starting with shockwave earthquake
tiny flint
Can I see your pob?
violet nymph
Maybe infernal blow Slayer
wild arch
I still need to make some changes to it
violet nymph
Infernal blow is one of the best feeling melee skills
tiny flint
I just want a rough idea of showing how to path @wild arch
violet nymph
with pulverize it will fuck
violet nymph
in that case you could have a 4 link sunder or something
with fortify and shit, something that doesnt need much
to activate the boys
wild arch
Shit how do I share PoB links
tiny flint
go to export and click on generate a code or pastebin
wild arch
Message too long
tiny flint
no copy the url
or the code number
oh raw code might be too long
it will make pastebin automatically tho
proven wadi
What ascendency for generic trypanon play if I want to try different skills
wild arch
Berserker
wild arch
Blitz neutralizes the slow attacks
And you can go carnage & warcry if you wanna do coc
proven wadi
Sounds like a plan
wild arch
Why exactly do you have RT and champion's never miss at the same time?
wild arch
wild arch
First you need to decide if you want crits or not
tough roost
You can just unspec Resolute Technique, really 🤔
tiny flint
I will
But I'm looking for more ways to scale the build
Maybe I just grab a bunch of jewels
wild arch
Impale is busted
tiny flint
Yea it is
wild arch
As long as you stick pure phys you'll be dealing double your damage
tiny flint
I wonder if getting some leech nodes and vp
wild arch
And besided the tree I cooked up stacks loads of aoe for offscreen clearing
tiny flint
Will I be able to do that as non crit
wild arch
Crit is a pretty huge damage modifier
I'd only suggest going RT if you got something equal or completely ridiculous like lead sprinkler molten strike
wide ridge
augh, I keep making zerker builds with like, 120% hp on tree because of all the goodies
tiny flint
The issue is that I dont have the 8% crit node on champion which makes it awkward
wild arch
If you want crit it's easier to just go slayer and get never miss through other means
unkempt notch
+3% base crit is really hard to achieve from other means
wild arch
The easiest way by far is gonna be effigon but it'll most likely cost a fortune now
royal crest
Does anyone know if incubators are spent after generating a reward, or if they are repeatable?
red jackal
spent
royal crest
Rip
wild arch
A div set for gluttony? Really?
quiet geyser
The only reason why this gluttony card exists is to change it in on a level 40 character
Change my mind
wild arch
I mean I love the belt but was that necessary
quiet geyser
For head hunter :^)
wild arch
tiny flint
But would you say that going non crit champ
quiet geyser
OR ssf
tiny flint
is viable?
wild arch
Tidebreaker set is nice tho
Sure it's viable just replace the second taunt node with something else
silver kettle
I'm super happy about the gluttony card
as an ssf player
pretty irrelevant for non-ssf sure
wild arch
ssf
quiet geyser
How strong do you think "Close Combat" will be
I assume it would be crazy on Molten Strike or blade flurry
tough roost
What's wrong with SSF 🤔
silver kettle
it's gonna be great on flicker strike, I know that much
wild arch
That's a 59% support with virtually no drawback
silver kettle
everything else, it depends exactly what the distance scaling is like
unborn ridge
Have they announced where and what level you get the new skill gems at or no?
silver kettle
yeah it's at the bottom of the patch notes
wild arch
unborn ridge
sigh, I should of kept reading them lol
quiet geyser
How would rage support interact with totems? Would the totems gain the rage or the player?
south gulch
why is this channel called cyclone mechanics? Lol
west fiber
cyclone too good
light hatch
Can we get a frost mine mechanics channel
native osprey
you have to beat kitava in act 5 with it before you can see it
only bee and I have access currently
light hatch
On it
idle agate
Only discussion about Cyclone and Cyclones please.
quiet geyser
Cyclone totem when
placid grotto
Is cyclone good or is it just flavor of the month
quiet geyser
both
kindred dagger
if only we could combine cyclone + flicker poggers
thorny arrow
do we know if blitz charges degen or fall off?
livid apex
midnight phoenix
5 seconds and they work like every other charge
U run out of dura u lose the whole stack
somber sequoia
does chieftain More Damage if youve consumed Endurance Charges Recently work on totems?
silver kettle
yes, totems use your damage stats
somber helm
r there any visuals for what shockwave actually does
silver kettle
don't believe so
marsh wagon
Is there any information still lacking to aseess n evaluate melee builds?
Just the hidden jewel nodes?
midnight phoenix
Theres a bunch of missing info but u can get a good enough idea with what you have now
silver kettle
for most builds at least
marsh wagon
What is missing?
silver kettle
couple of the new skills are completely up in the air
need to know how they work in practice but don't have footage
tiny flint
How do you guys evaluate skill trees for melee skills in this patch
silver kettle
close combat is a big shrug atm
tiny flint
I have no idea if my tree is good at all
silver kettle
uh what else
marsh wagon
All new uniques confirned?
silver kettle
nope, still missing over half
tiny flint
https://pastebin.com/qEHfqp8v THis one. cri conc path chieftain
marsh wagon
Hmm... Build making ones could still exist
So hidden nodes, new uniques are the two big missing?
violet nymph
Can one go pure phys reave slayer and still clear shit in endgame?
violet nymph
mah man
Not doing impale on pure phys is actually just a straight dps downgrade
When it doubles your dps
Idk i havent done the math and the gems arent in pob
you math people are a saving grace until then
@violet nymph it comes out to be a little over 100% more damage after all other damage is calculated pure phys wise
holy shit
should i aim for 100% chance?
Yup
Thats asuming max qual on dread banner and impale support. Otherwisr is 95% more
that's still fucking great
40% from tree, 40% from impale support and 20% from dread banner for impale chances @violet nymph
There's just so many new shit i wanna try out but i can't be arsed to lvl 2 char lol
Aight i'll get all the impale shit thank you
Also when i say 100% more. I mean after ALL sources of modifiers like auras and curses and all. @violet nymph
yes ik
So if pob said you had 5mil dps youd hit 10mil
Its great
sharp vigil
do yall think using reave on legion statues will count as hitting them for stacks?
leaden sequoia
yes
violet nymph
i fucking hope so
violet nymph
same
leaden sequoia
if it's not an effect that requires a corpse it's probably gonna work
lean lark
What is the minimum range required to receive the maximum damage bonus from Slayer Impact node?
low kindle
No idea
smoky fiber
Is it just me or does bladestorm look really poor?
120% base damage, 70% base attack speed, hits do 50% less damage.. am I missing something?
quick shadow
the cloud that does damage for a duration that gets left behind?
smoky fiber
I guess it doesn't really say how much damage that's going to do? is it going to be damage over time?
midnight phoenix
The cloud is the thing that does 50% less
leaden sequoia
the cloud deals damage in tics based off your atkspd at 50% weapon dmg
midnight phoenix
The base hit is the 120
smoky fiber
ohh I see
midnight phoenix
So u get 120+60+60+60 which is like
leaden sequoia
3x + your continue attacks = 300%
midnight phoenix
Vaguely alright at 70% of base attack speed
leaden sequoia
assuming they stack*
what i wanna try for is
dual binos dual strike assassin
frontload that first hit and see if it can prolif
(sad assassin didn't get melee buffs smh)
you'd think they/d at least give it something for "teleports behind u"
otherwise, earthquake i guess
fuck binos, big stick hit ground unearth sewer line
marsh wagon
Do u think these melee things hit hard enough
leaden sequoia
i'm hoping dual strike will
marsh wagon
Have the existing numbers suggested melee hits hard enough for most abilities?
silver kettle
yes
definitely yes
I'm at 400k shaper dps with all white items and no flasks or pob fuckery
1 mil dps with acceptable endgame gear
and this is on cyclone, which is not exactly a stellar single target skill
sharp briar
marsh wagon
How about def wise, are melee builds in general able to take dmg adequately with the changes?
silver kettle
@sharp briar hell no, I strongly doubt anything will ever be as good as winter orb was. cyclone will probably be the most popular skill, but it's not nearly as mechanically strong
lucid stone
silver kettle
@marsh wagon fortify being a good damage gem, buffed fortify nodes and the new guard skills will help a lot there yes. certainly seems like you don't have to be a jugg anymore
midnight phoenix
@lucid stone yes and yes
leaden sequoia
SST w/ obliteration?
eternity shroud gloomfang sst?
or, with helm enchant and +2proj sword, you can get what, 6 proj after jewel?
i wonder if more proj continues to scale with levels on it >: O
tfw you still probably wont be able to throw it through prison bars that you can otherwise leapslam through even after projectile slimming uwu
any idea how wildstrike is gonna work with regard to slapping multiple mobs
i know they addressed molten strike's balls
bitter ledge
Do we know which characters get access to frostblink and dash after Breaking some eggs?
I think that Duelist, Ranger and Shadow will get dash while the Witch and Templar will get frostblink.
But I really hope that Marauder gets access to Dash as well.
leaden sequoia
i would imagine shadow would get frost blink, no?
bitter ledge
Probably. I feel like his archetype is more 'dex' oriented, though.
But it's likely that he'll get access to both.
I feel like Frostblink will be more powerful, if you can cross gaps with it.
leaden sequoia
i imagine it'll be split evenly with the templar and shadow getting both
dash is a teleport iirc
bitter ledge
"Blink" is a skill type and appears on Frostblink, Flame Dash and Dash, and indicates that all of these skills share the same cooldown.
Yeah, it might be a teleport.
leaden sequoia
yeah it's a blink described as a series of teleports
marsh wagon
Frostblink is really good, esp on cold casters
It hits surprisingly hard
Might not even be a reflectable hit
bitter ledge
But I really wonder how much impact Dash and Frostblink will make when it comes to speeding through the Submerged Passage, Ledge, Climb and the Prison
bitter ledge
What if you have something like Onslaught support with frostblink? You might be able to use it tactically to get your Onslaught up
Not sure how much damage it does at level 1
bitter ledge
So, that's about the same damage as frost Bomb
low kindle
Does ticking shaper even matter for phys builds
bitter ledge
Frost blink should do around 20-30 damage at level 1
But it's also possible that it will do around 5-9 damage
Can somebody screenshot the actual gem? It doesn't work on my phone
wild arch
Did they just make SST good? 
hazy wave
it made not for me @violet nymph
fallen tulip
oh shit SST
alpine orchid
just wondering if GGG has said anything about how molten shell works since the gem implys it can ignite and reflect damage can't also does the dot damage compound ?
alpine orchid
@me if anyone has the answer
lofty elk
Havent seen an official response to this. But i also dont really understand the phrasing of your question, tbh.
@alpine orchid
alpine orchid
what part of it ?
lofty elk
the last line in particular "cant also does" ❓
wild arch
I wonder if whirling blades will damage everything you pass through now
alpine orchid
as in asking something else i was just lazy
lofty elk
the "can't" is already in the next line for me on my screen, so it looked super weird lol
alpine orchid
ah i see so you have an answer for the second thing ?
lofty elk
I get your question, but idk for sure... i would imagine it can ignite tho. But dont take my word for it.
It might not count as reflected damage but rather as "the damage cannot be reflected"
so ignite should work from my understanding
alpine orchid
just for clarifaction reflect damage can't ignite so its more just me asking if its reflect damage or not
lofty elk
see second part above
alpine orchid
It might not count as reflected damage but rather as "the damage cannot be reflected" this doesn't make sense
lofty elk
Why not?
alpine orchid
cos the gem would just stat that the damage can't be reflected
abyssal cry says it
lofty elk
from the wording it's reflected damage so no ignite.
alpine orchid
then why does something that can't ignite have +20% chance to ignite
see vaal version
there is mixed infermation
lofty elk
maybe it's an exception for VMS
alpine orchid
witch is why i'm asking
lofty elk
idk, not an expert on VMS/MS
alpine orchid
at this point no one is but ppl who tested it/GGG
as for the second part of what i was asking i was asking if the DOT does it say the buff has taken 1000 damage from the within the first sec and deals its damage then i take 1k more does it deal 2k worth or just the 1k since the last sec
@lofty elk
somber helm
the shards from spectral shield throw can't chain/fork, right?
the main shield will chain until it finishes, and then the shards can only pierce?
cinder pond
I made a chart for impale mechanics, mainly to reveal the benefit of stacking impale chance/effect in different situations. This chart assumes that the number of hit is large enough (so the values in it is better for reference of single boss fight and not a thing for mapping)
somber helm
might as well go past 100% impale effectiveness
dusty umbra
@cinder pond https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bxp8kr/asymptotic_impale_damage_with_varying_levels_of/ any similar to this?
somber helm
jiewi's is actually a full-on chart
dusty umbra
Nice
somber helm
lot nicer imo, but doesn't go past 100% impale effectiveness
when you can stack up to around 130%? of it ingame realistically
dusty umbra
rip 😄
cinder pond
:/ this is a thing. maybe add it up
lol@dusty umbra lol i use the newest EXECL version
somber helm
i think it mightbe useful if you could somehow add a line that shows the scaling effectiveness as a multiplier from each new incriment
as in how much its effectiveness drops off
dusty umbra
I just hate new excel/word, 2003 one just had superior UI @cinder pond , doc still works fine
cinder pond
will convert it to a lower version
@somber helm i put a chart in the right side for impale support (tho this is a fixed increment). i guess this is similar to ur method and only need to be more concrete?
somber helm
eh?
no i just mean your impale chart going to 100 instead of 130ish, since a lot of champions end up with around 120% or so impale effectiveness
somber helm
i didn't mean the impale support no
i think something else potentially useful that might be too much trouble / too confusing to go through
would be the size of each incremental "increase" as separate more multiplier
i.e. going from 0% inc impale effectiveness to 10% inc impale effectiveness would be a much larger multiplier on your overall damage than going from 100% to 110%
and it's kinda tough to manually crunch out at what point stacking more impale effectiveness isn't worthwhile anymore (relative to using the points or slot to get something else)
night wraith
Guys, do you really think GGG would allow for ED/Contagion to destroy legion's monoliths with single cast? That seems so unlikely to me. I am going to say on the record that some bad surprises are awaiting ED folks. What do you think?
cinder pond
@somber helm received. my idea is to allow users to input the increment of both impale chance/effect and obtain a chart like what i have done for Impale Support. This seems to make sense when it comes to ur problem
somber helm
noo that's not what i mean
like the chart's already very clear
what i mean is if you have, say, 100 base damage
and then a 10% impale multiplier
you end up with 110 damage, aka that 10% multiplier is acting in full "fidelity"
if you have 100 base damage and 100% impale multiplier, and then reach 110% impale multiplier
you're going from 200 damage to 210 damage
in which case the actual "multiplier" on your total damage is just 5% from a 10% increase in the multiplier
aka the higher you push the value of the multiplier, the less value you get out of each successive increase
relative to investing in a different direction
the impale multiplier reaches so high that i think a lot of champ builds reach a point where people over-invest in it
i gained a lot of more damage by dropping off some investment in impale effectiveness after a certain point and using the nodes elsewhere
so it could just be useful to see on the graph what the "fidelity" of each increase as an overall multiplier is, if that makes any sense
to help make that decision
cinder pond
i think we are talking about the same thing. maybe my expression is kinda shit. you mean the "actual benefit" from a fixed chance/effect increment is going down with the chance/effect that i already have increases. so you want to know "how valuable" a property is in different existed chance/effect situations.
what i want to do is to keep the 0~100% chance and 0~130% effect headers, and allow you to define what is that "fixed increment" and obtain a chart for this property's "actual value" in different build situations.
somber helm
are you treating the final multiplier from impale as that actual value?
i guess what i'm asking for doesn't need a chart per se, since it's not really related to impale
cinder pond
yes just as what u want
somber helm
i wanted something else, but i guess thinking about it it doesn't make much sense to include on an impale mult calculator
i think i'm just looking for a graph on multiplier effectiveness as a whole
cinder pond
a chart is just for convenience of quickly looking up the actual multiplier under differenc situations
somber helm
but i suppose it's not that much trouble to just math out
yeah
maybe i'll just make a small chart for myself for mult effectiveness in general
cinder pond
anyway lemme update it and u can see if i correctly understand ur problem
somber helm
alright - i'm pretty sure i'm asking for something different though, but on thinking abt it i don't think it'd make much sense to include what i'm asking for lol
pretty sure it'd just end up confusing
basically wanted something like this, but i guess i have it now anyway
wild arch
@night wraith I'm gonna laugh so hard if vaal soldier shells turn out to be chaos immune or something like that
wild arch
At least one of the armies surely will screw it over somehow
wild arch
Raw phys seems so busted on paper but then again some of them will probably have massive phys resist
Pure fire melee ele hit with flammability and ele weakness auras
violet nymph
@wild arch https://youtu.be/iX1Pj2d2Zlc
wild arch
Oh man those shields
violet nymph
Templar reeeeeally likes those shields
Now imagine domain of timeless conflict where they are everywhere
cinder pond
i think this is the final version.
This is a chart mainly to reveal the benefit of stacking impale chance/effect in different situations. This chart assumes that the number of hit is large enough (so the values in it is better for reference of single boss fight and not a thing for mapping).
any advice is welcomed!
@somber helm
btw this is the chart in higher Excel version.
@dusty umbra
dusty umbra
thanks just started my shift so will check em out later
bitter ledge
When will the new PoE version be available for download on the Steam version?
bitter ledge
Where can you find that?
I did find this, though
While we have your attention, there's been a few small changes to our announced plans in the last few days we wanted to take a moment to clarify them. After further balancing of Legion, it now takes 100 Legion splinters to make an Emblem (this isn't a nerf, we adjusted the drop rate so that the accumulation of them feels smoother and more granular like with Breachstones).
lyric ore
will bladestorm storms apply on hit stuff
patent canyon
limber sage
Anybody knows if the Base 8% crit from Slayer can be augmented with flat crit on chestpiece / inc. crit gem / watcher's eye ?
violet nymph
Yes @limber sage
summer magnet
when i take the node "warcries are instant" does that mean i can keep attacking while using the warcry or will there still be a slight delay from using the warcry to attacking again
summer magnet
alright sweet 😄
not sure how much it matters with lacerate tho
but it's a nice addition
violet nymph
Im really considering later on doing a coc purifying flame build
Ngamahu's Flame cyclone coc purifying flame slayer
wild arch
Be ready for that axe to cost several exalts
violet nymph
I mean, thats my "fun" build for later when i can afford it
Cuz coc isnt cheap to begin with
wild arch
It is if you use trypanon
odd kelp
I need help guys. The new voll's protector converts all gained frenzy charges to power charges, if I equip Tulfall with a maximum of one PC will I lose and gain PCs infinitely or can I not lose all PCs and gain a new one on the same game tick?
violet nymph
Thats a good question go make a reddit post. Mark might see it
odd kelp
I don't want him to know... 👀
coral basalt
So is this league spin to win?
wild arch
Beyblade league
coral basalt
I just did a search on Pulverize and it seems to be pretty popular. I'm thinking something with cyclone pulverize kinetic impacts and brinkmanship, fuck i hate league start
austere anvil
pulverize is still new so I would skip it as a league start at least
wild arch
It's a huge aoe increase for cyclone for a tiny slow
marsh wagon
Believe in cold vortex! Join me as a cold vortex witch!
Soldiers will just explode in the aoe. You don't even need to stop running to drop em
summer magnet
anyone know if it's possible to reserve mana with jewels?
violet nymph
So
wild arch
Anyone wants to do a minimum range cyclone?
violet nymph
Someone datamined new keystones already