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[severe dirge]

i feel like thats not worth that much compared to more auras on health

[tame mason]

25% reduced req

[midnight phoenix]

Wonder if it has an id

Icd

[faint radish]

reduced requirements vs an astramentis

[severe dirge]

cant do LL aurabots without the no bypass

[limpid current]

well you certainly have to build around it

[midnight phoenix]

And or a lockout

[limpid current]

it's another way to build an aurabot

[lucid stone]

Atziri's foible basically a 175 int amulet

[midnight phoenix]

Lets see

Can i howa with this

...maybe?

[severe dirge]

if you can it would be good

[tame mason]

inb4 fractured mods give out % stats like candies

[rugged locust]

hmm, foible is actually stronger than astramentis at this scale, if you don't count the benefits of actually having those attributes

[tame mason]

the datamine gonna reveal all... maybe

[rugged locust]

getting divinity charges on hit sounds too easy for the buffs it gives?

[haughty quarry]

that new unique seems op as shit

[rugged locust]

combine with curtain call maybe?

[tame mason]

as usual they dont mention the cooldowns

[rugged locust]

yeah there's gotta be a cooldown

they nerfed loreweave

there's no way they're just gonna give a stronger loreweave

[tame mason]

so uh how many loreweaves u need to vendor for this?

[violet nymph]

IS the shadow tree real?Or just leave on there for feedback?

[copper kernel]

as far as were concerned its real

[analog atlas]

the question is... Will there be cooldown for getting divinity charges?

if there won't, this item will be insane Oo

[native sonnet]

^ million dollar question

[violet nymph]

should we ask the GGG dude?(novynn)

[native sonnet]

Waiting for the ggg response on that

[analog atlas]

no pinging GGG staff

[violet nymph]

just pm?

[native sonnet]

Do not ping ggg staff

[violet nymph]

wait

oh i forgot

he didnt take pm

only for friends

[analog atlas]

the best bet is to wait for Bex to post in reddit thread

[minor oyster]

Just become his friend

[violet nymph]

guess wait for bex then 😛

[copper kernel]

novynn is a web dev or something like that

wont be much help

[barren crescent]

@analog atlas ask in the reddit thread

[marble quest]

how easy is it to self hit rn

[barren crescent]

a sec, finding the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWyV0kIp5n4

[marble quest]

i mean assuming less enemies

[barren crescent]

got it

[marble quest]

i know abt cwdt build but

with other ppl?

[barren crescent]

Heartbound loop?

[marble quest]

oh true

good for necro aurabot?

probably not but

[barren crescent]

RIPperonis spellcopter build

[marble quest]

are there other self damage mechanics im not thinking of? hiltless and the doedre potion right

[opaque moth]

LOL

[marble quest]

i mean you only need 10 hits in 10s anyways so its probably fine but

champ gloves? hm. add nomiss to tombfist and call it a day

or fortify i guess

[limpid quiver]

Done on 80% IIQ windripper (Low budget build)

I also got a bunch of maps and div cards

and other random crap

this is also estimated prices on the currency exchange rate

[grave valve]

@opaque moth what's the right pair of gloves for 3.6? the 2.6 is the atziri ones with vaal pact

[opaque moth]

@grave valve https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/3lnnCgWFrHLZJF8HV0u2px-4U_RYSPd5cnNmmWUxL3k/https/cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/175005585203396622/553319743596265512/unknown.png

u can find it in #other-news

[grave valve]

Je the FUCK

the new mystery box armour

[upper ice]

i'm procrastinating so hard on this essay, just to make a shit build

[pliant heath]

im sorry ggg

but when are u gonna stop buffing occultist

just curious when its worth playing another ascendancy

over it

shadow starting area changes make 0 sense

[languid path]

when you don't play es or dot?

nor both?

mind blown I know

[pliant heath]

yea but this change makes 0 sense since its the shadow area and they buff it for another ascendancy

[languid path]

I don't know how you draw a connection between changing the shadow area and occutlist being strong

[thick mortar]

OOPS

[pliant heath]

occultist is strong, they changed that area in favor of occultist over shadow

not rocket science

[languid path]

nice tinfoil you got there

but I'm too dumb to understand this conspiracy

[teal axle]

was the ES gut in 3.0 or was that like 2.6 or somethijg

[pliant heath]

happens when u eat the tinfoil instead of wearing it 😉

[teal axle]

like we were path of life nodes for a good... 4 seasons?

path of dual wield statstick life nodes sorry

[pliant heath]

u can already regen an insane amount of energy shield, now u got leech for it too, then that change for some butter on the bread cause why not

[teal axle]

meta ebbs and flows

you're just whining

I enjoy having qol on the tree and not being required to run warlords on every non occultist es character tbh

[somber sequoia]

anyone else playing alone in the coming league

[noble current]

And being able to play es in general as something other than occultist

[teal axle]

Im playing alone because I enjoy taking my time

[somber sequoia]

playing alone but not by choice

[magic blade]

Can anyone tell me what its like to play as ES from the get-go at leaguestart?

impossible? or just not worth it

[teal axle]

its doable if you know how to do basic crafting

[languid path]

easy enough if you know how to gear, I usually just ssf as hybrid the first few days

[copper kernel]

Excruciatingly painful

[pliant heath]

just build life/hybrid, buy fossils, then ur set these days

[magic blade]

oh yeah forgot dense fossils exist

[pliant heath]

yea its stupid easy to get like 8k energy shield

[magic blade]

I'll probably just stick to life and then respec once i get a few pieces of key gear

as a Trickster?

[teal axle]

sure

[magic blade]

or anything

ye

[teal axle]

shade form helps a lot

[pliant heath]

occultist gets the energy shield easier but trickster can get up there now

[teal axle]

hybrid es/eva chests with like 1300 evasion / 300 es is like a 500 es chest

[magic blade]

oooh thats good

yeah i might try my first CI build

[teal axle]

plus shade form getting buffed with the charges or whatever

is basically occultist's cant be stunned if you have ES

which is nice

[pliant heath]

yea you should have 100% uptime on it unless in a few situations or poor positioning

[magic blade]

ooh yep!

[teal axle]

you'll have some decent evasion numbers

plus dodge

so you shouldnt be getting hit all that much anyways

plus es leech

[magic blade]

i might just play hybrid, and then once i get into decent depth delves to farm for fossils, then i'll slowly transition into pure es

it was either a CI

or just EB MOM

[pliant heath]

zealotry is basically gonna replace wrath

[teal axle]

wrath is still a more lightning damage

[pliant heath]

on crit builds at least

on eo builds yes

its worse on crit builds tho

[magic blade]

i'm tossing up between zealotry or wrath for Divine ire

still unsure

[teal axle]

I didnt actually look at zealotry's gem info tbh

[midnight phoenix]

If u want to play trickster ci early league

[teal axle]

Im just gonna play some braindead build and enjoy the league

[midnight phoenix]

Just go buy a restless ward day 1

Its a 600es chest and it costs fuck all

[pliant heath]

16%more spell dmg, 39% crit chance for spells, change to create consecrated ground when hitting rare or unique

[teal axle]

oh yeah that exists

[pliant heath]

plus monsters taking increased crit while on consec ground

[teal axle]

and then you get like 5% movespeed and some nice duration if you use swift killer

[magic blade]

oh hell yeah

thanks for that @midnight phoenix

[teal axle]

oh yeah zealotry is like 2% less damage but more relevant shit

[pliant heath]

inquisitor is gonna be juice this league

basically perm uptime on immunity to ailments

[midnight phoenix]

Theres all kinds of cheapo chests u can use that give ok numbers plus offensive stats

[pliant heath]

sign me up

[magic blade]

here i was thinking of farming the 6L holy chainmail cards

[pliant heath]

i still laugh how they nerfed Armageddon brand more than storm brand

[teal axle]

Im half tempted to play some chaos conversion occultist storm brand thing

just seems nice and easy, especially with ES leech

[pliant heath]

there is a pretty good guide on it already

that does that

[magic blade]

you can try the armageddon brand chaos conversion with that dagger

[pliant heath]

just conversion on conversion into chaos dmg

[magic blade]

forgot what its called

[teal axle]

yeah its like

storm brand into double call of the brotherhood into a bunch of gain non chaos / ele as chaos

[magic blade]

Consuming Dark

[teal axle]

so its mostly just room to scale, starting off as a normal storm brand crit build which should let me lazily farm yellows

[magic blade]

[The Consuming Dark]

[teal axle]

or I'll do winter orb, fuck if I know

[pliant heath]

yea it got nerfed tho since non chaos/ele as chaos changes on weapons but still probably pretty good

[teal axle]

consuming dark is fire

[magic blade]

oh it doesn't work

[pliant heath]

u mean its time to do whispering ice?

[magic blade]

ye Armageddon brand chaos conversion

😄

[pliant heath]

scion occultist/trickster whispering ice never die in a map again

[magic blade]

trickster + devouring diadum never die ever again

[pliant heath]

new chest looks amazing for molten strike occultist

[magic blade]

seems like its almost 100% imperative to get atziri's foible with it right?

those requirements are nuts

[teal axle]

yeah

[mystic canopy]

so what do i start my trickster soulrend as? hybrid?

[teal axle]

yes

hybrid mom is basically free for a trickster

shade form is free es, you can hp regen with ED and es regen with soulrend

patient reaper

etc

[mystic canopy]

i was thinking about the build, and god damn chaos dot trickster is gonna be good

[teal axle]

multiple forms of leech and regen going to different health pools at the same time is really nice defensive layering

[mystic canopy]

defensive layers, probably nice dps with all the different damage sources you can stack

downside is that everyone and their mom is gonna be playing it

[teal axle]

I figure the sweet spot just for gem space is 2-3

soulrend and ED or bane, plus the other
I think its 2 so you still run a wither totem

especially with the double totem placement gem now, which doubles your wither rate

[mystic canopy]

i was thinking i could fit 3+wither totem in

[teal axle]

you dont need 3

[zealous trout]

how many hours till new league guys?

[teal axle]

wither has a cap

and its for bossing

[pliant heath]

what was the name of the new consecrated ground flask?

[teal axle]

so getting to the cap faster is only going to be a little bit of damage faster

[mystic canopy]

6l: soul rend
4l: ED
4l: bane
4l: wither totem
3l: flamedash+golem
3l: cwdt

and aura on ring

[teal axle]

seems good

snug, but good

[mystic canopy]

go snug or go home

lol i thought everyone was talking about the old broken chest

the 50% nonchaos as chaos

new one looks interesting definitely

yeah, if you have all shaper items

[marble quest]

shaper chest

[teal axle]

oh yeah that one

[marble quest]

plus sone duration thing i thinj

[teal axle]

I guess thats a goal for my build but its such a like, epeen high end build

[marble quest]

*think

[fervent plover]

i can't decide between inquisitor and trickster. both look fantastic...

[teal axle]

just mjolnir with shock nova

shock nova got buffed

shock nova is good with mjolnir

[fervent plover]

i guess i'll do trickster because thats what i want, instead of caring about whats better

[magic blade]

I honestly would do trickster for everything if i could

its my fav ascendancy

so glad it got some love

after reddit fucked over Harness the Void

before it even came out

[mystic canopy]

make shock nova do the ice nova+frostbolt thing, but with ball lightning

[magic blade]

i was so pissed off

[mystic canopy]

pls ggg

[teal axle]

kind of surprised nobody is eyeing buffed ball lightning

it got a decent damage buff

and has always been good at bossing or packs

[mystic canopy]

yeah it's going in essence worm for sure

[safe leaf]

its worth 50% cause of the skill duration

[mystic canopy]

damn, how expensive is essence worm gonna be this league? a lot expensive, or hella expensive?

[magic blade]

will always be expensive at start of the league

50-60c

maybe more this league

unless you wanna farm cells for the cards

lmao

[safe leaf]

yea wouldnt use it with rf

[copper kernel]

not like you have anything to use your mana for

y tho

[normal kraken]

I expect essence worm to be relatively cheaper this league, with all the focus on ES at the top of the tree

[grave valve]

the DoT also has skill effect duration

so it's 40% more if you don't already have 100% uptime

[mystic canopy]

sabo got like specfically targetted with this patch

even with nothing about the class specifically getting changed

20+ scion as always

[honest dune]

Lots of inquisitors aswell

[mystic canopy]

true

[midnight phoenix]

Im not convinced there will be many scion

[normal kraken]

I don't expect to see many inquisitors

or rather, maybe lots of inquisitors at the start that will decay after people find him underwhelming

[pliant heath]

i think the new basically perm uptime on immunity to elemental ailments on it is fantastic

use to only on consecrated path

i meant consecrated ground

now u can be off of it for 4 seconds

and still have it up

while use too basically only stationary

[teal axle]

I mean

"consecrated ground playstyle"

[pliant heath]

it would be easier now thought to use it then it was before

[teal axle]

they're letting inquisitor keep consecrated ground even if they're not on it for (duration)

its even less to think about

I mean

[pliant heath]

you could say that about any gamestyle that its not for everyone

[teal axle]

aight you got me there different people enjoy different things

dont think that's gonna make people not play inquisitor

lol

most people run herald of ice on crit builds to let them freeze and shatter

not because of the damage

or explosion

so

like comparing apples and jackfruit

[pliant heath]

yea freeze/shatter most important about it

[teal axle]

Aight man

[pliant heath]

but zeus doesnt care about the cold so thunder>ice

yea ur paying the price of demand

[normal kraken]

but you can also sell stuff under the same conditions

[pliant heath]

ill miss the abyss zana mod

but beyond is pog

abyss on t16s early in league jewels easy money

[fervent plover]

my draft build requires that i am level 101

perhaps a second pass is needed

[teal axle]

easy clap

[pliant heath]

wonder how much those slayer gloves will cost

still insane to have it on an item

instead of an ascendancy

those gloves u can use onigoroshi and sustain it super easily

yes 2.5 seconds

[cinder star]

bring back frost blades

[pliant heath]

oni goroshi is 3 second buff

u have ascendant slayer for 2.5

so .5 seconds of degen

jugg will be crazy with those gloves

jugg with overleech lmao

[languid path]

you know, it's not hard to hit stuff every 2.5 second

especially in boss fight

what phase lol

you don't start the fight with overleech

nobody had a problem

[pliant heath]

i think it should still be fine

its definitely a nerf but still playable

i do think 2.5 seconds is way to low

i think should be at least 5 baseline ascendant and 10 second slayer

[languid path]

and you still over leech if you hit uber elder ever 2.5s

why would you not hit stuff every 5s?

like you run around for 5s doing nothing?

[pliant heath]

backtracking for flicker loot

hehe

only real men played flicker in delve

jugg still is an amazing life build

champion pretty damn strong

just cause you saw them doesnt mean the life version isnt good either

[spring pelican]

Man, initially people were going 'rip es' now it's 'rip life'

[languid path]

and no slayer was not the last stand for life build or whatever

[teal axle]

a single ascendancy gets nerfed and all the other viable life builds die I guess

rip elementalist we hardly knew you

killed by slayer nerf

[midnight phoenix]

That nerf was nearly two years ago tbf

[pliant heath]

just wait till 3.7 and u can move berserker to the front 😃

[midnight phoenix]

Like nothing else works like it did in 2017

[teal axle]

no they wanted to nerf overleech

two classes used overleech

because overleech was the problem

[midnight phoenix]

Idk why we expect es vs. life to be diffe

Rent

[teal axle]

I mean

beg to differ

mega-cull was always their moniker

[midnight phoenix]

The problem with slayer

Is it was one broken node one ok node and a bunch of bricks

[pliant heath]

dmg too high for cull to matter anymore besides in party play

[languid path]

but slayer still have overleech?

[teal axle]

nothing except aoe, stuns, megacull

nothing at all

[midnight phoenix]

Im fine with them nerfing the broken node

[teal axle]

we're not

[midnight phoenix]

LUL

[teal axle]

getting stunned on a life pool

whatever you say buddy

[languid path]

nice jugg I guess?

[tired wasp]

league starts at 2pm CST right?

[languid path]

'cause you know

yes it's scion

[pliant heath]

yea alt think so

[high scaffold]

@tired wasp could check from poe main website for their countdown

[tired wasp]

yeah im looking at it

[high scaffold]

work your math

[tired wasp]

my mind is a bit fried rn

[languid path]

that's like

the lamest reason to quit a game

your build get nerf

[midnight phoenix]

Quit due to dx9 removal?

[tired wasp]

tbh i was thinking of skipping a league because of slayer nerf, mainly beause ive been a cyclone boi since breach

[stone onyx]

lol

[midnight phoenix]

I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of potato pcs suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced

[slender jetty]

Yikes

[fervent plover]

potatoes are wonderful though

[slender jetty]

Double yikes

[fervent plover]

rip dx9 players, we will remember you fondly

[somber sequoia]

what builds are strong in synthesis?

[tired wasp]

tbh GGG wouldn't remove support if it would affect them too much

synthesis hasn't started yet 😃

[viral sorrel]

Its not even out yet

[tired wasp]

so who knows

[viral sorrel]

And theres hardly any testing

So

[somber sequoia]

uhhh anyone whos following patch notes

[viral sorrel]

You tell me chief

[somber sequoia]

would know

[fervent plover]

i heard Sweep was the one

[brave pulsar]

change your name, thanks

[viral sorrel]

My hoodie and shirt came today :pepega:

[wary stratus]

maintaining dx9 has a non-zero cost in terms of dev time, removing dx9 likely means the number of people actually unable to use dx11 was low enough that it's not worth maintaining

that's not a memory leak

it's just loading assets as they're required

you do more maps, it loads more tilesets

people say a lot of things, a lot of the time people talk about stuff they know nothing about and spread lies

I don't see how mod incompatibility issues in a different game have anything to do with poe

removing dx9 is literally the definition of removing legacy shit to improve performance

they even said so when they did it

[cunning spire]

@supple pilot how many stash tabs you buy?

[slender jetty]

Things could be better optimised for sure, but trying to play modern games on a 10 year old setup is just asking for disappointment

[wary stratus]

honestly, if your computer can't even handle dx11

the problems your encountering don't have anything to do with the game

[teal axle]

🍿

bring back windows XP support

[wary stratus]

to be completely honest I used custom settings on PoE for the longest time

and I recently tried just using the defaults on EVERYTHING

and it ran significantly better

there's a good reason they're the default

and it's not just for "muh pretty graphics"

it's the settings they've tested and optimized the most

[teal axle]

"hubris"

[wary stratus]

if by options you mean dx9, there literally is

maintaining both dx9 and dx11 has considerable costs

like, let's pretend for a minute

that there's a way to get 20% more performance for everyone that plays, but if they make the change, dx9 stops working, and you must use dx11

[magic blade]

pob doesn't have the updated tree yet rigiht?

[wary stratus]

do you make the change or not?

[teal axle]

it does Szelpo

unless you mean the shadow area change that happened today

not sure if thats in

[wary stratus]

they don't want the option to disable shadows in dx11 because they design the game around the assumption that shadows exist

[magic blade]

yeah i meant the shadow change

sorry i wasn't specific

[wary stratus]

the performance of the game under dx11 with shadows is BETTER than it is under dx9 with shadows off, so if the game ran sufficiently well for you on dx9 with shadows off, there's no reason to complain about dx11 performance

it's literally faster

no, it's a fact, lol

[midnight phoenix]

The fuck lol

Not dx9 shadows

Dx11 shadows

Versus dx9 no shadows

[wary stratus]

dude, you're completely wrong about this rowan

more than one person has tested this

dx11 is so much faster than dx9

you can literally crank a TON of settings up

and still get better performance on dx11

than dx9 with EVERYTHING off

I don't think dx11 with shadows is faster than dx11 without shadows

I'm actually quite confident that isn't true

but that's not what we're comparing

I'm saying if dx9 with everything off is "good enough fps" for you

than dx11 on default settings SHOULD ALSO be good enough

because it's literally faster

it's been faster for over a year now

ok

yes, I agree with you that dx11 without shadows would be faster than dx11 with shadows

that's obviously a given

but it's not an option, and the devs do not want to add it

because they design the entire game around shadows existing

and the performance impact is minimal as fuck in dx11

[proven wadi]

....hubris?

[wary stratus]

you're talking about like 1fps loss

yes

shadows in dx11 on default settings

do almost nothing to your fps

they aren't rendered the same way as dx9

[proven wadi]

have you tested?

[magic blade]

ay new ring

[wary stratus]

shadows in dx11 are rendered on the GPU, and unless I'm mistaken they're handled by the CPU on dx9

the performance impact of shadows is non-existant on dx11

unless your GPU is literally a 1 dollar potato or something

[proven wadi]

the worst potato pc player probably has no gpu, because potato

but then again why keep supporting archaic potatoes

[wary stratus]

that's the point

they aren't willing to

if you really can't stand your FPS in dx11 with shadows on, buy a better video card

[proven wadi]

i know that dropping dx9 support is giving them better performance according to them

[wary stratus]

there isn't a chance to improve game performance

[midnight phoenix]

They dont balance around potato pc

We know this

Cos they are removing dx9

[wary stratus]

99.99% of people playing would literally not be able to notice the difference between dx11 shadows off, and dx11 shadows on, in terms of fps

it would just make the game look like shit for no reason

it's a waste of dev time

[proven wadi]

if you care so much turn down all the other settings? it should be fine?

[wary stratus]

I'm pretty sure the amount of time you've spent thinking about this issue

you could have spent working and bought a better video card

you're literally wasting your own time over <1 fps

it's not bad optimization

[viral sorrel]

bad optimisation

[proven wadi]

you say its bad optimization but its really just that they dont want people turning off shadows

[viral sorrel]

Have you thought maybe

Just maybe

Its you?

[wary stratus]

when the difference between on and off is <1 fps, that's by definition good optimization

unless you think your fps should go UP from enabling shadows

rofl

[limpid current]

this new ring is an interesting concept

[teal axle]

gimme that 200% buff effect for herald of ash by wearing two 👀

[proven wadi]

not sure what it means by the synthesis effect

[teal axle]

definitely worth it

I think when you synthesize it

it gets an extra mod

[limpid current]

you get an additional mod

[magic blade]

How much ES% should i be aiming for on the tree guys?

[limpid current]

i would think

[red jackal]

oh, rgb mtx

[teal axle]

200-250 @magic blade

[wet plaza]

@mystic canopy banana ice cream! @midnight turtle apparently I am

Just to answer the questions from yesterday

[limpid current]

200-250

[violet nymph]

hah, my chaos dot occultist has 335% ES

[proven wadi]

200% increase effect from 15% extra isnt thaaat much damage tbh

better than hatred except you need two rings for it hmmmmmm

[limpid current]

this is the problem with every update, so much to sort through

how they keep doing it, i dont know

[magic blade]

Thanks @limpid current and @teal axle ! Trying to get a tree going first to see how it goes. give or take a skillpoint for the changed shadow tree

[surreal hemlock]

how is pob going to update the new change to shadow area

[lucid stone]

Melee occultust

[last river]

I thought the update was a joke

[lucid stone]

Wew

[surreal hemlock]

is it?

[opaque forge]

eww, that shadow change is just bleh

[surreal hemlock]

it saves my build one point actually

lol

[lucid stone]

Good for es

Bad for life

Worse for trapper

[surreal hemlock]

they disconnected

coldhearted calculation

so now it takes me one int node to get there

[wary stratus]

Fangs of the Viper and Coldhearted Calculation should just be connected to 2 passive nodes in a triangle each, idk why they're screwing around with the center nodes when they weren't the problem

[surreal hemlock]

also is anyone else slightly bothered by the slight shift in the passive tree

[wary stratus]

and I don't know why you think that would be good Rowan, it sounds horrible to me

[surreal hemlock]

no I mean like actual spacing wise

the passive tree shifted a bit

[wary stratus]

why are you trying to stack Herald of Thunder buff effect, or using such a bad weapon to melee with

[midnight phoenix]

They said they would fix that shift i think

I saw a post

[surreal hemlock]

ah hopefully

[midnight phoenix]

But theres been 500 posts today good luck digging it up

[surreal hemlock]

they still haven't actually fixed the shift last time fully

which was all the way back in 2.3 or 2.4 I think

[wary stratus]

it really isn't that good dude

[surreal hemlock]

they fixed all the spots on the passive tree reddit complained about

but then ignored everything else

so some spots are still messed up

because the whole passive tree got messed up a bit

[wary stratus]

a rare weapon or paradoxica would be significantly stronger

[opaque forge]

so uh, when exactly does the league start? Warframe update just landed and literally killed my favorite weapon, so I'm in need of things to do

[surreal hemlock]

tomorrow

[stone onyx]

countdown on path of exile site

[opaque forge]

oh

duh

[wary stratus]

I mean, do whatever you want, but I'm telling you that's going to give you absolutely terrible DPS compared to what a real weapon (ideally not Elemental Overload..) would give

it's not hard to craft a rare weapon better than Fidelitas' Spike with 10% pen corruption

personally I prefer to optimize a build fully before I actually try playing it, not everyone enjoys that though

[midnight phoenix]

I mean u can spike if u want i suppose

Its really a leveling weapon though

Like it will be outperformed by a 5c ele foil

Shaper isnt exactly the pinnacle of endgame in 2019

[wary stratus]

I just don't understand that mentality

I would want to get the best everything that I can afford beforehand

not after I realize it's shit

[midnight phoenix]

Eh im not gonna tell someone else theyre having fun wrong

U do u bro

[lucid stone]

I like making jank builds and seeing how much I can wring out of PoB

[wary stratus]

even if you don't like crafting or buying rares there are still better uniques

I would use Hyaon's Fury a hundred times over before Fidelitas' Spike

[midnight phoenix]

Hey man maybe he really likes the art

Its cool

No judge

[wary stratus]

I guess lol

Hyaon's Fury is a unique though, and it is something you can build around

way moreso than Fidelitas'

[lucid stone]

Yes but mirror gear costs like...a mirror

[wary stratus]

White Wind is decent too with the stat stick nerf

I mean.. 40c per item isn't exactly super low

you can get a very solid rare weapon for 40c

quite easily

[swift schooner]

anyone know what level we get soulrend?

[teal axle]

gravicious @swift schooner

[swift schooner]

hmm

[teal axle]

you can just level with blight

base damage got buffed

[swift schooner]

yeah

[teal axle]

and it was always borderline good enough on like blight +1 support to get through act 1 and 2ish

[swift schooner]

i'm lowkey gonna try soulrend for clear and ED for single target xD

[teal axle]

just slap in ED to help with rares and bosses and you got a build to get to act 3 for soulrend basically

yeah

thats kind of what most people are doing I think

friendship ended with contagion

now soulrend is best friend

[swift schooner]

heh

if anything I think i might go occultist

since soulrend + Profane might be a good combo

[teal axle]

Im between basically WO occ or storm brand occ, not in the mood to play chaos dot unfortunately

or I might go spark

[wary stratus]

I definitely think occultist is the way to go for soulrend

not trickster

[teal axle]

spark feels like it'd be juicy but its hard to judge before getting gear

[wary stratus]

profane bloom is 10/10

[swift schooner]

Im thinking league start with chaos DoT

then when i get enough currency, I make a sporker

😄

[languid path]

profane bloom instead of withering presence?

[wary stratus]

withering presence is overrated imo

[teal axle]

I was gonna do sporker to get a fastish clear in yellows to farm into a good thing

[languid path]

[teal axle]

withering presence's main jive is the hipster who wants to be life based occultist

[wary stratus]

if you benefit from the chaos res sure whatever

[teal axle]

its not horrible on void beacon but its like, a big chunk of the value is the 60% chaos resistance

[wary stratus]

but on CI occultist, no ty

[languid path]

yeah I'm LL

[teal axle]

ll its fine

[swift schooner]

hehe

[wary stratus]

honestly, profane bloom pops are like, 80% of the reason to play occultist IMO

[swift schooner]

😛

it is a feelsgood node

[wary stratus]

+50% more enjoyment while clearing

[teal axle]

like I think Im just going to take like

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/kakaoninja/One_hit_Wonda?i=0&search=skill%3DVaal-Spark%26sort%3Denergy-shield

And turn it into an occultist

[swift schooner]

spark occultist? 😮

[teal axle]

sec

because its an expensive amulet slot

[swift schooner]

^

[teal axle]

that could be damage

and occultist is stun immune anyways

so

https://pastebin.com/izNKTQmm @swift schooner gear is a bit nyoom-ey but the tree is solid in theory

[wary stratus]

presence of chayula implies that you're using shavs, which is not guaranteed

[teal axle]

idk how to make the bot work

[wary stratus]

there are other chest options

[teal axle]

tbh its not even 100% necessary anymore

stun immunity means its nice but its not 100% needed, plus clarity watchers eyes are dumb

@swift schooner that PoB is probably... 125-180k dps with solid but not gg gear?
and then gets to about 500k on the high end

[swift schooner]

thats pretty nice

[unborn gulch]

Nani

Profane bloom for righteous fire?

[teal axle]

like it has spark syndrome for bossing, so its not a bossing build

but you can clear like a motherfucker

[swift schooner]

seems ES or atleast CI is the way to go for soulrend

[unborn gulch]

Hum

[swift schooner]

cause ES leech is a thing now

[unborn gulch]

I was planning on starting off as rf

Bur on rauder

[rigid lake]

Support - Occultist (Lvl: 93) by: Rowen

General

Energy Shield: 14,239 (292%) | Reg: 3,077/s (21.6%)
Net Regen: 1,491/s
Mana: 491/1,170 (28%) | Reg: 111/s (9.5%)
Secondary: Evasion: 5,172
Resistances: :fire: 83(+79) :zap: 76(+21) :skull: 56
Keystones: Elemental Equilibrium, Elemental Overload, Zealot's Oath

Offense

DPS: 336,749

Main Skill

Vaal Righteous Fire (20/20) + Burning Damage (20/20) + Elemental Focus (20/20) + Concentrated Effect (20/20)

Config

Playerrecently: Killed DoT Affected, Been Hit
Player: Has ES
Enemy: Boss: Shaper, EE (Light)

Info:

Pastebin | Web Tree | Web Preview - created in Path of Building.

[unborn gulch]

Is occ good?

[swift schooner]

how do you have fun with rf?

i don't get it

[trim radish]

Just stand beside the enemy lol

Its like a shittier wo

[swift schooner]

played DO, didn't feel too exciting

literally ran through things and thats it

[teal axle]

walking simulators get boring yeah

I tried RF in delve and hit the same issue, sold out entirely into toxic rain

[wary stratus]

minion build walking simulators are where it's at

[teal axle]

minion walking simulators are at least more involved

slap down a desecrate, offering it

etc

[swift schooner]

played CA for delve

pretty fun at start

but got boring later on

[wary stratus]

something strange about having like 5 different "active" buttons on a build that 99% of the time just zooms around everywhere walkin at the speed of light

[teal axle]

thats why Im leaning spark or winter orb, I want solid consistent clear and good in delve/synthesis/mapping

dont really care about elder or shaper because Im not patient enough to manipulate my atlas

rather just run reds

[unborn gulch]

Mmm, I’ll check it out in pob when I get to work

Not enough time to turn stuff on atm

Rather my question is

Is it expensive when you go for more damage or when you go for rf sustain

As long as I can sustain it grinding out 5ex should be cake

Esp for the scaling

Heard something about chayula breach getting nerfed or something

Any effect on drops?

God damn it

It’s as if pandemonius wasn’t at a fucking premium already

Ech

Is it viable to swap out SC for Leap Slam?

Shield charge

I just tend to get stuck on terrain and die like an idiot with charge

Vagan where

I mean is he more likely to drop rings in a specific faction

Research, interv. etc.

[limber spire]

pretty sure the type of item he drops is 100% random

[unborn gulch]

Anything specific for early leveling?

Doedre’s scorn?

Neat

I really don’t like the concept of being stuck in place when attacking in synthesis

When do you do the switch to rf

Yeah vaal rf is silly strong

Neat, it’s actually reasonable to start with

Shavs is safer for spamming, true

[teal axle]

I mean

you can just not use esg's visage and get a 350 es shield

and make up the difference right there

beast fur's main draw is the es recovery rate if anything

but shav's letting you fit in more auras plus lowlife is still appealing

[limpid current]

shavs is basically the low life es robe

if you're not going CI, shavs is it

[teal axle]

Imma bet you there's a synthesis mod somewhere that does chaos cant bypass ES @limpid current

[limpid current]

if that happens, shavs will be reduced to 1c

for sure

[teal axle]

good

it being as expensive as it is made lowlife incredibly prohibitve

[limpid current]

I would certainly pay 10 ex happily for that, even 20, on a blank base

[teal axle]

but after betrayal and a lot of the mods we say there

Im just saying I wouldnt be surprised

because you gotta think what other design space is there to add for "new mods on items" the league

[unborn gulch]

Still on phone

[limpid current]

legit if that is something which can be found

[teal axle]

that eye might get more expensive due to the ubiquitiveness of es leech now Rowen

[limpid current]

everybody who can afford it

will be buying up those bases

[teal axle]

sure

but like any other league, creates a demand and an economy

I do

30% more es leech is nice

[limpid current]

the aura reservation spirit shield implicits will sell like hotcakes for most aurabots

[teal axle]

recovery rate increases leech rate

[limpid current]

or casters looking to reserve more than 2 auras

probably not expensive but should still be a good 20ish c

[unborn gulch]

Haven’t encountered many fb ones

[native sonnet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2451994

@hollow wharf torrent up

[unborn gulch]

Shame we gotta wait till tonight

[tall rock]

when can we download the synthesis files not the whole game?

[copper kernel]

14 gb is the download

[quartz plank]

you can download before the league starts?

neat, how?

i started last league

[unborn gulch]

But not everything

[quartz plank]

works with steam?

[unborn gulch]

Since they’re scared of dataminers xD

[tall rock]

redownload the game today which is around 14gb

or update your client in 14 hours for the 3.5gb update?

[quartz plank]

my internet is average 500kb/s download?

its terrible

my fps in game is now better due to upgrading my pc i sit at around 75fps

[hollow wharf]

if someone completed the torrent download, please do me a favor, take look is .dat files exists

[quartz plank]

befre i upgraded i was using skelemages and when i summoned all of them and was facing a boss my fps dropped to about 10

[past hearth]

steam client cant use the torrent can it?

it doesnt matter if you have decent internet though right?

I got a phat ssd so no problem there

[hollow wharf]

steam client can't use this torrent.

[quartz plank]

i have ssd aswell

[past hearth]

ive missed pretty much every league launch cause of work so ive never had this issue before

[quartz plank]

after league start and a week in ill look at redownloading stand alone client

[tall rock]

so... can I update my client now?

[past hearth]

how early can steam update before the patch?

ill for sure have time right?

[modest harness]

you'll have plenty o time with the guaranteed downtime and/or queues to get in

[past hearth]

im using a 960 pro itll scan in like 10 seconds max

[tall rock]

I'm using the standalone client though guess it would be fine

[severe dirge]

so all we have to do is replace the content ggpk file?

[cloud siren]

This torrent only includes the GGPK file, so you'll need to copy it into your actual install folder once the patching server is up, no earlier than three hours before the Path of Exile: Synthesis launches. **Please note that you can't use this GGPK file with the Steam client. **

So this means no point to download if on steam?

[severe dirge]

you could download standalone with it

[brave pulsar]

I mean you can help seed sure

[sullen thunder]

What's the torrent for?

(Sorry I've missed the convo and I'm a bit lost)

[modest harness]

is that a fungal cave hideout in the glimmerwood mystery box?

[quartz plank]

wow they dont have nz time in the account settings, i could only see australia sydney

[next epoch]

@sullen thunder Lets you skip most of the downloading during launch tomorrow

[sullen thunder]

oh sick

[undone valley]

though they aren't mant seeds atm

so the download is hella slow.

[sullen thunder]

I have 1.5mb download would I be able to get a link please :))

[next epoch]

https://web.poecdn.com/public/SynthesisPreload-5699.zip.torrent

[native sonnet]

well, it starts with 1 or however many pc ggg setup as seeds and every1 is slamming it now

[native sonnet]

give it a few hours and there should be alot more seeds/faster

[severe dirge]

rip website

[grizzled raven]

the true question is

what will the 3.6 memeconomy look like

[sullen thunder]

yah website is back

[severe dirge]

woo only a day and an hour til its done

[visual sail]

I'm waiting for someone to download the torrent and upload it to somewhere so i can actually download it before 3 days

[quartz plank]

had a friend download a game that said would take a year to download

[sullen thunder]

Mine says 6 hours?

[true nova]

Steam client hasn't updated yet, right?

[next epoch]

Steam client won't update until tomorrowish

[pearl portal]

Only steam plebs use pre-patch torrent the chosen race just updates at 8am with the godhood client.

[sullen thunder]

Synthesis drops at 6AM for me so I've gotta get some good sleep in

Hold on is the pre-patch torrent only for Steam? Or is it for non-Steam

[next epoch]

@pearl portal "Steam plebs" can't use the preload at all, dunno what you're talking about

[visual sail]

non steam

[sullen thunder]

oh, good

[next epoch]

The torrent is for standalone client users

[pearl portal]

Lol

[quartz plank]

nope just opened it on steam and didnt work @next epoch

[sullen thunder]

Steam plebs

[pearl portal]

what's the point tho u can just patch it at 8am..

takes like 2 minutes

[half wagon]

1 hour for the me Pog

[light crater]

[pearl portal]

no google fibre for u plebs?

[quartz plank]

not till 2020

[sullen thunder]

ur username has Venezuela in it

[pearl portal]

True

[sullen thunder]

Do you even have internet

[modest harness]

google fibre in Vuvuzela lol

[pearl portal]

I use hotspot at mcdonalds

[sullen thunder]

Who am I to talk, I live in Australia fucking lmao

[pearl portal]

the only mcdonalds in venezuela

[midnight turtle]

Is anybody able to download?

It stopped for me

[sullen thunder]

I'm getting fibre in a few months but it's going to be dogshit 100%

[pearl portal]

lol they have fibre in aussie?

wut

[sullen thunder]

Some places

It's being rolled out

National plan called NBN but horribly mismanaged and an absolute fucking travesty

[pearl portal]

What server do u even play on in aussie

they have a oce serveR?

[sullen thunder]

Sydney

[pearl portal]

damn son

[sullen thunder]

Chief, GGG is a New Zealand based company

ofc they wouldn't forget about OCE

[quartz plank]

omg just saw poe drops trading cards

[midnight turtle]

I want Google Fiber in central cali but nobody cares about the valley folk

[pearl portal]

just move to san fran cisco

lul

[midnight turtle]

lul

10k rent a month

[pearl portal]

• the aids

[modest harness]

[midnight turtle]

I prefer 500 a month and a 130k$ pay in the central valley

[true nova]

lHrm.

so I should get home 2 hours after league starts tomorrow. not terrible.

[pearl portal]

Just move to venezuela, 3USD a month rent.

live to dream papi.

[midnight turtle]

lmfao

Ill see you when the Melee buffs hit

[stable axle]

144 down, 1.4mb up

[velvet fossil]

for the torrent all u do is drop it into your game files when the patch comes out?

[stable axle]

so I can expect it to be faster as more people download?

[cloud siren]

kind of

[stable axle]

No idea how torrents work

[midnight turtle]

I was getting 15 Kbs now im getting 3MBs roughly

[sterile brook]

lemme see if I can beat everyone's DL speed

[cloud siren]

basically GGG has the whole file, but as people download from them others can download from as well

[midnight turtle]

My internet speed is 300Megabits a sec

I hate how slow torrents are

[stable axle]

54 peers

and rising

well its now around 180 down

[cloud siren]

what % are you guys at right now?

[midnight turtle]

11 seeders

967 peers

[stable axle]

In SEA, doubt theres gonna be many peers

Comparatively

[cloud siren]

seeders > peers

[midnight turtle]

Im in central cali. Nobody lives here

[north dragon]

I'm like seeding at 76mbps

[cloud siren]

peers is just people downloading

seeding is who you got available to download from

[stable axle]

Eh then no idea how many seeders

[midnight turtle]

I know that

We need more seeders

[stable axle]

Cause Im torrenting through brave browser

[cloud siren]

😭

[light crater]

a lot from SEA

[north dragon]

😂

[midnight turtle]

@cloud siren

[cloud siren]

ooooooof

[midnight turtle]

Lmfao

[surreal hemlock]

Gl with that

[cloud siren]

well, best case

[north dragon]

🤷

[cloud siren]

I wake up in 8h and it's done

worst case I try downloading normally

[north dragon]

Mine took about 10mins

😂

[midnight turtle]

Do you live in a populated area? I only have 60k people in my town in the middle of nowhere

[surreal hemlock]

Seed to everyone else

[midnight turtle]

Yeah seed you fuck

[surreal hemlock]

Do your part

[stable axle]

This is SEA

[cloud siren]

@ everyone on all discord servers 😄

[stable axle]

I dont think theres many people comparatively

[midnight turtle]

thanksEA

[languid path]

call me a god

[midnight turtle]

You just live in a good place lol

I pay for 300 down

[languid path]

well now that I look at it doesn't say anything

[midnight turtle]

And im getting jack shit

[languid path]

but I'm uploading to mega nz

[stable axle]

gonna take me 10 hours lol

[pearl portal]

so prepatch is only used by those god doesn't love (bad internet users) ?

:^)

[midnight turtle]

What to listen to while torrenting

[pearl portal]

Listen to pomf pomf.

[languid path]

what a god

[midnight turtle]

What is this weeb shit @pearl portal

[pearl portal]

@midnight turtle oh I meant this "higurashi no naku koro ni opening full" my bad.

finger slipped.

[midnight turtle]

honest mistake

[tall rock]

when can we start downloading the patch in the standalone client?

[pearl portal]

8 am

pst

[tall rock]

errr how many hours is that

[karmic palm]

first time pre patching here, how exactly do you do this?

"This torrent only includes the GGPK file, so you'll need to copy it into your actual install folder once the patching server is up, no earlier than three hours before the Path of Exile: Synthesis launches. "

[undone valley]

and then spend another hour in que 😄

[short ibex]

https://gyazo.com/1384c06cf86391d1139f2ea2cd7c5a14 lol

[high scaffold]

jesus torrent 13Gb...

[quartz plank]

how does the GGG tracker bot get the info?

[severe dirge]

got that 44kb dl speed

feels very bad

[high scaffold]

is that the actual file i need to update aswell on client ?

[midnight turtle]

I dont like torrents at all

[sterile brook]

@quartz plank I run the ggg tracker bot, which specific info?

[violet nymph]

How do torrent? Kinda confused

[mystic canopy]

yeah i'm getting trash download speeds

[high scaffold]

if i dont use torrent?

[north dragon]

oh god the number of peers

[pearl portal]

just patch it at 8am, if ur internet is shit you shouldn't play this game

[pearl portal]

lol

[midnight turtle]

@violet nymph Dont torrent if you dont know how to

Itll mess your pc up

[mystic canopy]

lol

[high scaffold]

and your internet 🤷

[pearl portal]

use limewire

[mystic canopy]

you'll get a virus

[pearl portal]

for safe torrenting use limewire

[severe dirge]

my internet is completely fine. having 2 seeds really limits my speed

[pearl portal]

godspeed son.

[quartz plank]

@sterile brook like how does it know where the people e.g bex natalia post and put the link in

[midnight turtle]

Honestly theres a huge chance for a virus

Got a keylogger installed onto my PC from torrenting

[pearl portal]

GGG secretly puts crypto miners in their torrent links, I exposed them last year.

be careful

[mystic canopy]

maybe if you're a 60 year old torrenting for the first time

[midnight turtle]

Neither of those are true

[next epoch]

@quartz plank basically, refreshing a bunch of shit constantly 😛

[midnight turtle]

Ive been torrenting for years

[pearl portal]

but can't you just patch it at 8am, you get 3 hours to patch it normally..

how bad is ur internet my son

[stable axle]

Doubt the queue will be that bad

[sterile brook]

@quartz plank this bot is simple, it just reads the RSS feed of https://gggtracker.com , anyone can make a simple plug and play bot with it
and https://gggtracker.com actually does the annoying work repeated refreshing of the profiles of GGG members on reddit and the forums

[high scaffold]

welp... queue always bad on league launch tho 😂

[pearl portal]

unless you have fibre optic

i've never crashed or lagged in league start

google fibre optic

get it now.

[severe dirge]

thats not how the queue works

[quartz plank]

oh that does sound a bit simple

[pearl portal]

it is now

they always release it a few minutes earlier, not right at 11

pro tip.

:^)

[severe dirge]

"pro" tip

[pearl portal]

that's right

[quartz plank]

where i live half the town is getting fibre i think this year and my half is starting to get it next year

[pearl portal]

ur god has given you knowledge, pray tonight.

what town?

[quartz plank]

un til then im stuck wth 500kb/s download

[modest harness]

better to just sit on the beach and do your gem layout while waiting for the league to start tbh

[pearl portal]

it's been here for like 10 years

lol

500kb/s i dont think that's enough time to download it in 13 hours is it

[quartz plank]

i peaked at 900kb/s for a couple mins before

[pearl portal]

so ur a weaboo then, japanese internet is top 5 worldwide.

Smh.

[north dragon]

gonna love my region

[quartz plank]

yeah im a weeb that lives in nz

[pearl portal]

;o

[modest harness]

bottom 5 worldwide

#southside

[pearl portal]

at least you have nice wildlife

mhm

[polar stone]

dude patch comes 3 hours before launch and is usually 4 gbs on the standalone

[pearl portal]

^

[quartz plank]

my mate 20mins away has about 3mb/s download

[polar stone]

that means u can be there on league start with 500/s

i get there with 300 :/

[pearl portal]

prepatching is for no lifers that wanna wake up at like 10:45 and not waste time waiting.

[sterile brook]

yeah this torrent is not doing too hot
they should've rented time on a seedbox

[native osprey]

eh?

mine finished already multi

[quartz plank]

i was thinking next time i go to auckland try and find the ggg building

[native osprey]

so I'm seeding

[pearl portal]

I always limit my seeding to 25 kb/s a second then turn it off after i've finished downloading.

[midnight turtle]

hey chat mods, how cool do I have to be for (Exile), I got some pretty funny jokes. Isn't that good enough

[native osprey]

no

[modest harness]

I'm going to prepatch because it doesn't interfere at all with all these offline games I'm playing. :shrugganomics:

[sterile brook]

I just started it 10 mins ago
but I think the torrent got super crowded in the last hour

[polar stone]

@pearl portal unless u have limited internet thats a bit of a dick move

[pearl portal]

@polar stone welcome to the internet.

[indigo lake]

Please tell me they don't implement that bloody hell shadow tree!

[pearl portal]

they will

[north dragon]

is that john wu

[pearl portal]

wendy wu

[plain acorn]

damn im only connected to 1 seeder out of 40 lol . this is gonna take a while

[midnight turtle]

Could be worse

[pearl portal]

lmfao

[plain acorn]

yikes

[pearl portal]

how do u even play with that internet

u must lag like

[balmy ravine]

30mb/s upload guys im done and leaving it on overnight

[midnight turtle]

It stopped patching for some reason

[plain acorn]

i have 25mb up/down btw

[midnight turtle]

I have 300 down @pearl portal

[pearl portal]

I'm not impressed.

[plain acorn]

just too much ppl downloading at the same time and not much seeders

[midnight turtle]

I live in fuckhole california

[pearl portal]

so do i

[balmy ravine]

36.7gb uploaded already lul

[pearl portal]

Lol

[midnight turtle]

Central valley?

[pearl portal]

nah

brentwood area

[midnight turtle]

Better than valley

[sterile brook]

I'm using a private seedbox and also getting garbo downloaded, I think the seed / leech ratio is garbo

[pearl portal]

valley that bad?

oh right pornstars and such

[balmy ravine]

0.032 s/l ratio

[sterile brook]

[midnight turtle]

We have the same population, but everybody here is a farmer

[balmy ravine]

779 ppl connected to me lmfao

[pearl portal]

lmfao

gotta farm those organic crops buddy

get to it

[midnight turtle]

60k people and 3 mil cows

Idk the crop count though

[pearl portal]

3 mil cows?