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that would work so well with divine ire too if so
To keep the damage buff even when you move
Orb of Storm, spark inquisitor hmm
Too bad it also loses it for teleporting
but theres not even that many spells it affects
They couldve made lightning warp viable
needs to be an instant aoe spell
like firestorm would be good but once you start moving it goes away
Yeah
Vd would keep the damage
BV is only .5 I think
After you move
gc, purifying flame
But i guess yall dont like hand casted vd
is bv area damage?
idk haha
i mean if you can stand still after bv it would be insane
but the point of bv is just zoom around usually lol
So wait, can you intensify morb or not?
standing still in melee range against a boss 
you could but its so slow
to bounce around
It has to be a spell
you have to had not moved by the time it hits
so you wont get to intensify the ending bounces
which is where gloomfang shines
its fine for up close
but something like uber elder where you hit hit move hit hit move youll constantly drop your stacks
before they hit
Yeah i only think vd will work
It’s a stack per cast though
Reliably anyways
Also is it just me or is arcane surge more or less worth putting into main skill setups now
no
It's 49% more damage total
You can easily cast a bunch for before you need to move
just you
Or the volcano thing i forget
you can easily put it in another set up and get that multiplier
cant think about arcane surge like that though
Yeah I get that but it's 49% more damage
have to subtract what you would have from a level ~7 or so
As long as you can spend the mana
Do most spells have 5 supports that each grant 49% damage?
No
Isnt new arcane surge only 39?
I cannot do math.
And 20% inc cast speed
I'm dumb ignore me
lol
but the thing is right now most builds reliably have a ~13% surge from flame dash etc
so its only 13 -> 39
not 0-> 39
but for RF its fucking huge
What level is 13%
since ppl used rf just to get duration tag for swift affliction
Oh right
infused channeling on scorching gives fire dmg for 6s
and new dot aura
RF looks gucci
Does rf dot scale off of spell damage?
I dont think it does
They only get spell damage for scorching ray
No ll rf is for es
Because you get a much larger pool as es
And scorching ray enjoys the pain attunement
cause you cant use controlled destruction
LL doesn't pain attune node bonus dmg. It scales from elemental, fire, DoT and burning (I think that's it been a while)
Yes ray does
Yeah so that’s what i was saying
I believe most builds didn't bother leveling SR though and just used it for the debuff since a super well-tuned LLRF doesn't have mana to spare.
Nah they get 6l sr
But I haven't personally built one in a couple leagues so that may not be accurate anymore.
@junior talon i dont think it is dead personally
That’s their single target
Sr is so much base dot
It’d be bad not to take advantage of that
Then they put rf in an elder helmet for a 5/6l
7L soemtimes haha
Yeah
such insane rf helms
For very expensive helmets
its funny when gloves and helmets are the real 6-8L for some builds
Yeah
How tf do you even craft that
YOu'd need to isolate the insanity then hit like 3 slams in a row
and double veiled
the last bit
Wait hold on
yea
this is from a TEMP LEAGUE?
yea thats betrayal
Triple white sockets and no corruption too.
Can't imagine how much that cost
i know people just yolo gambled shit on at the end cause they dont care anymore
True but that's still a ton of currency to amass to yolo gamble
29% tho
lol
😦 I got 29% after a lot of money in to perfects, so I kept it
I couldn’t justify the extra 3958482 ex for 1% quality
It takes 15 on average right
about that yea
Before they added perfect fossils, I was stocking up on >20q items trying to get some nice gear
Then they added the fossils and my time and money was wasted 😦
well you didnt lose anything, you just didn't win
sad about 29%
is you're 1% better than hillock bench but 1% worse than max roll
I hope collectors tab doesn’t show rolls or quality, because then I will need to get perfect everything
if they don't my friend who's trying to get perfects is gonna be sad lol
(that being said i doubt it shows it without hovering)
Do you think ES' prices will rise a lot this league?
Hmm... I guess I'll have to say goodbye to cheap 600 ES Shaper mod regalias :/
Although I guess it could be fossil crafted
dense fossils will be pretty pricy this time around
has there been any discussion on jewel socket's being moved slightly? the witch's main jewel no longer hits the full heart and soul set on large for an energy from within/healthy mind in pob
no doubts no ragrets
Most likely no changes on the jewel ranges/position/coverage, it happened last time too with the released tree but was fixed/fine in game on launch iirc
Ty @native sonnet first league i've looked this close before the start
are they gonna release a new type of stash tab for synth?
we were given some hints about a collection tab incoming
unique tab is probably coming
awesome, and I've heard they do a tab special price once a month correct?
Every 3 weeks
on weekends
cool, I'll wait for the sale to get a bunch since I only have map and currency
shard tab and/or divination tab are the best ones to get after these two
yeah I was going for those 2 with maybe a quad
if they release unique tab I'll prolly go for that
quad is a bit overrated
well I'm clogged with the 4 basic ones and 1 of them is full of cards
the thing is, I've probably bought two sets of premium tabs before quad was a thing, after buying every special tab I wasn't using more than 3-5 normal/premium tabs
I started betrayal 3 weeks before the end and I had to flush tabs 4 times to have enough space, can't imagine what 3 months would be like for me
granted I came back from a long break (last time I played was incursion) and didn't know what items to keep and what to trash anymore
so I trashed everything under lvl 60 required except rings/amulets/jewels
If you’re doing incinerate trickster, what are some ways to boost the ignite damage without too much opportunity cost. You get a free ignite, and it’ll trigger your kill effect, but I think the bulk of the damage will still just be high spell damage
Sorry this should be build planning prob
I think quad tabs are amazing
was anything besides SRS changed in patch notes after first post?
Imo having a quad tab as dump tab is extra juicy
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@wet plaza what have you done
danger noodle was angery
did you mess up the timeline again?
now this channel got my attention 
I have no idea why it's called that now but I approve
doesn't give me a heart when I notice the change, ban this guy
too late mister, too late

fookin nitro plebs

@wet plaza
@wet plaza 
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@wet plaza are you popular here?
I dunno who @wet plaza is, but I don't want to be left out.
same
Poor @wet plaza getting pinged all the time
@wet plaza
@wet plaza what's your favorite ice cream flavor
@wet plaza this isn't your day is it
@wet plaza did nothing wrong
Faust ur an ok person i wont bing u
the era of arc traps is over, all hail lightning trap now
what is this room
why is this a thing
is this just the place for people that are too excited?
AAAAAAAAA
📌
I'm excited
oh thanks el ferreto
hey if i talk in both channels am i effectively avoiding this channels design to reduce congestion
I have like 100 premium tabs that I REALLY wish I could convert to quad tabs
guys anybody know where i can download patch before launch?
@crystal frost Keep an eye on Reddit for the torrent link... it's not out yet
do steam users have to wait
nice channel 😂 👌 💯
alright thx
Yup, Steam users have to wait
Time to lube up those routers for maximum download speed
if you wanted to download the torrent you might as well switch to the independent client
it's a full download of the ggpk, no patch
nah im fine with waiting a bit, i have a lot of csgo skins and thats how i get my mtx
ahhhh
To be fair unless you have a slow, mobile, or metered internet connection, the Steam download patch is totally quick
i'm really keen to build a jigsaw puzzle in poe
moreso than i'd ever be for one irl
made into glove*
3.7 slayer = vampire ? xd
this is basically slayer ascendant bonus
slayer is better even
slayer died for this
ill def play melee in 3.7 . been couple of years
hey king slayer here is ur both hands back
What these gloves really are.
I mean we've seen ascendancy in an item before
might be prempting a slayer rework
kaoms roots are like half a juggernaut
by like 3 months
hurhur
yea 3.7 is all melee related so expect it to be bigger patch than this
mostly so I can level and farm into some meme shit like chaos conversion dipping winter orb poison or something
6% increased damage on Glacial Hammer (this is a buff)
how hard is bw nerfed
I legit expect this to be somewhere in the patch notes.
bw?
blade wafer
yeah Im like
bv*
heh
bv got nerfed yes
its probably still fine and can probably still clear all the same content
just slightly slower
considering how braindead cheap it was to just run some heralds and a 4link BV and get into yellows and reds
^
intensify might be interestin on BV though, do we know how high that buff stacks
they did hid damage effectiveness tho
can we just play a juggernaut and stand there for 2 hours stacking more damage
i'm going hybrid inquis coc with galesight (ez crit cap)
and later respec into llrf inquis coc with galesight
self cast soulrend for clear and ed+bane for single hybrid mom trickster with capped chaos resist is my starter
Im still on the fence tbh. I have some spicey deadeye coc throw thing but I dunno how easy it will be to get off the ground
im sure crafting will be a lot easier
so I'd rather stick to something braindead
i think spell damage leeched as es seriously reduces the need for coceye
Those gloves are gonna be hh tier
maybe I can do it as trickster
was tough choice between inquis and trickster
you should definitely get some conversion in there and use harness the void
before they remove it from the game
yea harness the void is secret op because before it's with YOUR HITS only now it's just HITS
I think it was for the 100% crit chance vs piercing targets
so ek totem or something
I could probably just mock this up as trickster though, take ghost dance take the chaos thing, and then probably swift killer
and go ES based/sub evasion because ghost dance is seriously good now
you're basically immune to stun unless you're getting stunned multiple times per 3 seconds, but you can wear a 2.2k evasion chestpiece to get 350~ es chest
the perfect form chest is god tier for that
yeah
free phase acrobatic so gg 50% total spell dodge
I might mock it up and see if I can make it work and league start off it
but Im not confident in myself to do trees
coc freezing pulse
Energy Shield: 6,728 (258%) | Reg: 168/s (2.5%) | Leech 1,225/s (18.2%)
Mana: 42/1,071 (28%) | Reg: 37/s (3.4%)
Secondary: Evasion: 6,426
Resistances: :skull: 100
Keystones: Ghost Reaver, Zealot's Oath, Chaos Inoculation
DPS: 67,291@ 2.51/s
Crit: Chance 32.10% | Multiplier: 276%
Frenzy: 5/5, Power: 7/7
Freezing Pulse + Elemental Focus + Controlled Destruction
Enemy: Blinded, Boss: Shaper
Playercharge: FC, PC
Pastebin | Web Tree | Web Preview - created in Path of Building.
oh this is cospris
Life: 4,230 (153%) | Reg: 279/s (6.6%)
Energy Shield: 2,992 (74%)
Mana: 2,235 (134%) | Reg: 141/s (6.3%)
Secondary: Evasion: 37,388 | Spell Dodge: 30%
Resistances: :skull: 74
Keystones: Mind Over Matter
AVG: 109,834
Essence Drain + Empower + Controlled Destruction + Efficacy
Player: Has ES
Playerrecently: Killed DoT Affected
Enemy: Blinded
Pastebin | Web Tree | Web Preview - created in Path of Building.
doesnt need it to start with
I was doing this as double beltimber spectral throw
yea only uniques for mine is just breath of the council, the vertex, the perfect form, and essence worm and rest is just rare craft
oh thats a 6 nevermind
oh i have 2 . chest and hat. chest will be soulrend. idk if pob save notes but look there
ah ok
essence worm will have malevolence in it so it multiply stack with prolong pain
Im tempted to either do something like this because it seems really gear independant
or occultist just because temp chains makes life safe
it will clear fine without unique specfic
are you hc?
yeah Im just debating trickster soulrend type thing vs occultist storm brand or winter orb
ghost shroud es recovery is instant
with the new ES leech its nutty and I can just play hybrid occultist until Im comfortable to go CI with a doryani belt for life leech and tree es leach
they've gone hard on the es leech
I'll probably do trickster though, just need to figure out defensive layers. Like on your tree we can spend 3 points to get an extra curse
I like it, it might be too much but eh
at the end of the day a bunch of es casters arent running warlords mark I guess
The question is how much aura can we run, can we get away with a blasphemy if we have 2 curses, go blas defensive curse plus a codt damage curse or something
Im not great at the MoM math
i only run 1 aura on essence worm so mana is 100% unreserved for mom
Cloak of Defiance is dumb with Shade Form
just has no life
ah ok
malevolence or something I guess
yea that give more dmg and duration
i think you can probably run the reserved mana a bunch of different ways and be fine
but essence worm definitely seems strong for the dot aura
I think you can probably get away with 25-40% reservation
obviously u gonna run discipline until u get enough es on gear to go without
yea it depend on how hard things hit late game
you won't need discipline late game on trickster
ill be also usuing smoke cloud and jade flask for easy evade
rare ev/es chest will get you an insane amount of es
did they nerf having both elemental as chaos and non chaos as chaos to not both spawn on the same items
the perffect formchest give like 220 es and u can cap spell dodge with vaal grace. it's really nice
uh i think so only 1 mod of each? and lower number as well?
it feels like occultist is gonna be more of a sure thing
wait
and trickster may or may not be better
does bane work with blashemy?
how are you thinking it would work?
trickster will be faster
Bane aura
that'd be great
due to all the AS
yeah
probably tankier too
bane is curse tag
I think Im a coin toss between occultist WO occultist Storm Brand or Trickster Soulreave
just depends how easy I want to get started
curse tag doesnt mean 100% of curse interaction . game is complicated lol
it only apply curse interaction to the curse linked to bane only
well yeah thats why im asking if it will :x
bane has some good damage on it
bane + despair + 2 support = gg
no further curse investment is needed really
bane despair temp chains inc aoe
the only thing i'm worried about is pack clearing for bane
uh temp chain got nerfed big time
okay pack clearing for bane: decay weapon + profane bloom
im only using bane for hard taargest not trash
will give you a self proliferating explosion wave
oh and you'll need global curse on hit somewhere
mark of submission works
temp chain didnt get nerfed?
well i guess vs unique/rare thats not boss
it has 2% more effect on shaper/elder now i think
kek
maybe chest 6l = soulrend for trash, weapon 6l = bane for bosses?
The changes were a bit more than 2%
6L soulrend with faster projectile and 4L ed and 4L bane for single with wither totem
Soulrend does slightly more dps
sorry u want FASTER projectile?
for clear yes
i mean
and ill be putting on decay gem
so all the chaos and dot nodes will juice the decay and SR dot
CHAOS DOT IS TOO GOOD
stupid good
THERE ARE TOO MANY WAYS TO MAKE A GOOD BUILD
just run each as a single unsupported link 
i want to use trigger socketed spell when you use a skill sockteded with ED and use soulrend
that was cheap syndicate affix
trigger the bane imo
Guys
blight cwc soulrend with rot jewel
was thinking bane too tbh
What time does the patch notes usually arrive
I loved that syndicate auto cast thing
go live*
I used it for frost bomb and my curse
1 hour before league start?
on my cold dot dude
uh like 2-3 hours before?
we have patch notes my dude
Ik my dude @teal axle
we have patch notes tho?
when the league starts
^
when it starts <_<
Before we get in the game
the game is down
We download the patch right?
and we get in queue
queue goes live first yea
Hm, kk
why get faster projectile for soul rend doesn't it scale better w slower like ball lightning
expecting the queue to work and the servers to not crash and reset everything
obv for clear
slower proj for boss so dot refresh often
ohh gotcha
@teal axle It did work for me lol, I woke up seriously early and got to queue 1000
im thinking GMP + unleash depending on how unleash is gonno interact
I ended up still getting 8 hours of sleep for some reason
if u look at the soulrend video. none of em have projectile speed linked so it will be pretty fast
what will be the best lightning skill this league
Not much reall
shock nova
Unless you count divine ire looking like lightning
storm burst, spark fork, shock nova, they are all good really
120% dmg effectiveness ;q
holy isnt an actual element
it is in 3.6
holy is jsut themed lightning/fire
😛
Holy totems
i want one that i can do all content with, so im not sure about shock nova and spark
i'm planning spark and I'm just gonna suck it up if it can't do endgame single target
Just play chaos degen lUl
i mean if you want guarantee dont pick new or reworked skill?
it'll probably work fine enough
Energy Shield, Chaos Damage, and anything related is going to be super expensive in Synthesis.
wtb 'crits can now crit'
why does the released skillll tree have changes that were noot in the patch notes
is there any news about this
@fervent plover warframe style eh
They like to surprise people sometimes
What specifically?
And yeah that too
@lyric lintel Yep
also I couldnt find the nerf to slayer
yeah im using the shit out of that
oh yeah that notable is busted
that they mentioned in the notes
the gloves lol
yeah that's nutty.
im actually loosing my mind
derp
this is nutts
people who don't use ES leech gem are stupid
Did you see the cast speed wheel buff?
yes boy, it is
es leech gem is stupid op
it's not really busted. u get only like 150 ish free es
but it's compared to just extra mana iirc
yeah I saw cast speed wheell buff
it gives flat spell damage.
and yea es leech is nice. easy to keep leech up with blood range
i mean es leach gem is meh for soulrend/ed
Idk seems like ggg didnt care to balance much this patch
ES leech gives FLAT spell damage.
wait what
to anything its linked to
Huh
I cant find ES leech
for trickster., yes because it's 1.2 * 1.2 = 1.44% more dmg
on the announcment
20% more is dope
whats OP about it
Malevolence looks great, Zealotry looks kinda eh
so im putting that in essence worm
Really wanna play Soulrend, but I don't want to spend all 4 of my limbs to play.
also 20% inc skill duration is great too
and i got enough duration without any duration cluster so that's a big plus
on ED it's 1.86 inc duration. xd
Anyone know when the updated Filterblade is live?
@violet nymph why would u spend all 4 limbs? chaos degen builds can be cheap
Yeah but they'll be super popular
@coarse grove not in 3.6....
@violet nymph go occ, get profane bloom, get despair or tempchain on hit/ ??? profit
they had ti before
Bruh, anything ES or chaos related in 3.6 is going to be hella expensive
thats cus u wanted expensive things
<_<
jsut use cheap shit
u dont need uniques
good thing im going SSF this time around. fractured mods will make it easy to craft dont worry guys
and why would you play MoM soulrend anyway, so therefor I would be forced to go ES, which means money.
I am excited about the fractured stuff, looks neat. Hopefully it plays neat too
and 3 free instant es recover on hit
okay apparently temp chain duration debuff is unchanged so only action speed number is changed
hm from 8% duration debuff to 13.6%
enfeeble reduced accuracy from 7.4% to 12.58%
winter orb POB dps is per missile right
What is the new channel name for
All calculations are per projectile
unless stated otherwise^ (ice spear)
what is slayer? 🙃
@forest glacier slayer got so nerfed by Leech changes that items are stronger than his ascendancy nodes
The only thing I don't understand on the gloves is the reduced maximum recovery per life leech.
GGG basically sent slayer to Shadow Realm
Rip melee more you will always be thicc in my book
like if you attack super fast are you just voiding out the glvoes?
You are not voiding them.
@grizzled raven thank you
Well I dont have a masters degree but I think it slows down the rate of leech
I'd have to go back to school to learn how the new leech works
Yeah I've read most of the thread, and honestly I'm not sure why - I never play leech builds, but man is it a lot of content to devour.
Apparently they chucked bloodseeker as well with leech changes
do we have to unlock all the crafting recipes again?
Yeah
hex master cluster is a must for bane then guys
If you're playing League, if standard idk.
well now we got slayer back on gloves
how many hours till then?
Gives you a precise countdown
anyone have a quick reference for what instant leech looks like now?
just wait fr melee rebalance in next patch
Same as it looked the last few patches @stone merlin
Even with the "You can only leech 20% of max life per second" or whatever the value is?
the hell is this channel
Check pins
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/175005585203396622/553319743596265512/unknown.png
Slayer died for this? 
More like the scion took a kidney shot for it
cool gloves for anyone still using warlord mark :[
I forsee them being cheap until someone Mathil's them with something like a quad curse bane blade vortex something something something with warlord mark on blas
It's not going to be enough leech without investment to be good
hit things
I've never seen anything nerfed as hard as slayer for so little reason
🤷
I imagine next league will be something like the leech gem giving a more multiplier as well as increased leech recovery maximum or something and suddenly it'll burst from the ashes with a vengeance
and then vaal pact will be cool again
pls give attack that spawns corpses
in the mean time watch ES leech work on the riposte skills and aegis gladiator secretly be stupid good but nobody will play it
those arent spells. so the spell-leech to es nodes wont work
ES leech gem
which unless I'm mistaken doesn't specify spells
unless it has the spell tag
(it does not)
that's the line
you couldve just said "i mean the gem"
I like to go the extra mile
guys guys
those new gloves
thoughts?
how important would life leech effects are not removed be
its pretty quality of life
but overall
"decent" is my thought
if leech gem were viable or became viable, the gloves are super good. If you use just warlord mark the gloves are decent for the extra max life it gives for those 2.5 seconds of having hit something. Any and all leech recovery max on the tree makes the gloves gradually better and better if you're melee focused with them too.
vaal pact also makes the gloves twice as good unless I'm terribly mistaken
berserker or cheiftain benefit from the gloves the best at first glance as a matter of opinion. Scion also gets basically a third ascendancy node with them.
yeah poe 7 is coming out soon
they skipped 2-6 and they're discontinuing poe
Something about the pantheon is why they're making the jump straight to PoE 7 though
So it's a sequel but it's going to be a battle royale
But they already made a battle royale
I plan on getting the season pass Day 1
which season pass? You need to pick it on the 40 x 40 chart of available options.
Don't pick the wrong one or your build won't work
PoE, PoE silver, PoE gold, PoE Ultimate, PoE Scion, PoE EoP, PoE Shaper, PoE Elder, PoE Zana, PoE Atziri, PoE Atzoatl, PoE Turquoise, PoE ChrisWilsonFromGrindingGearGames

- Game not included in any of the above choices. Duffel bag has been replaced with a toy replica of the planned duffel bag.
t. bethesda
I'm most excited for the base building
Can't wait for the game to brick my pc
dont forget your hits/spells have bloom
oh god that shadow area change
and they kept the extra int node about the elemental notable
aaaa
thats so much worse
also doesnt cost an extra point to get into coldhearted calculation any more
I got lucky, that change saves my build 1 point
It saves my trapper 1 point but costs my miner 2. 🤔
actually it gives easier access to mind drinker on my build which gives more mana+regen than Dreamer
Didn't I see somewhere that phys to lightning/fire/cold is craftable now?
Well, costs my miner 1 point but the staff nodes also cost another 1 point
It's been craftable since betrayal
What you can't do now is you can't craft more than one.
Oh good. What slots can you craft it on?
I believe you used to be able to multimod gloves to have 25% phys to cold/fire/lightning, but now you can only pick one
The wiki was not being helpful for finding this info
...I think
I thought it was gloves. I guess pob doesn't let you do that
game theory this was intentionally bad by GGG so people stop complaining about the chevron
/s ?
Just bring back the shitty triangles and all is forgiven
Stop changing the tree and costing me points please
GGG should just make the shadow tree read the player's mind and adjust it so that they spend the most points possible
can i still sign in for preorder droprate bonus?
ummm....was that tree bex post a troll or real lol
good job reddit. 
fuck you reddit
holy shit that shadow change is amazing
unless i'm misreading and you can't go this way, 99% sure you can though
That looks better to me...
Yeah problem here is that you dont have anyway of getting shortcut, all force you to spend/waste 4 point
When do you path there as a shortcut though?
unless you don't intend to get either notable it's 100% better all the time
Yeah wasnt too much but in previous tree i think you could go here and spend few less point
Its not better
Once u try and get out bottom side via blood drinker
Ur like man fuck this is so many nodes
Or if ur like hey i used to be able to path through this with just the efficient life res es nodes
Now i have to take dumpster tier 8% dmg
makes that jewel socket not suck literal ass to get
tbh this change is better than what we had significantly
Okay now old builds cost the same but Ima have to rework my trapper
Its prettier
Looks like templar area
Is this where we riot about how garbage the shadow change is for life builds?
What if they purposely made the previous change just to mess with reddit
There are new node which is cool but if in the process it just force you too put more point just to go here or pass throught it looks like a fail
If you're not a life build the change is great. If you're a life build you just lost a passive point.
Hey im not life
I lost 1 point
Cos i now have to take an extra passive that i dont want to get to resourcefulness
What is this channel for?
Patch notes
It was patch notes. Now it's overflow. And the ferret's memes.
what is this collector tab i'm hearing about?
Also wow overleech gloves
It's going to be a unique tab. For uniques. At least that's what the datamining and all that jazz points to.
Then you pathed badly in the first place
I didn't name it this
well I change poe-2 confirmed to 7 because it's more obviously a troll
they managed to make the shadow start even worse
I think if u wanted both notables in the chevron u dont end up losing from this change
It's a neutral change if you want both and life.
which is like
Or one point lost
whew that can't be many
But as ive said a few times deadly assault and the associated small nodes are preeeeeetty bad on their own
So thats not many people
disagree; every build I've seen posted takes it
(disagree second line) you're right it's bad
lethal assault?
shouldnt we get a torrent today?
Ye i mean if people cant figure out that 26% inc dmg for 2 points is bad then idk what to tell them really
This was my pathing before... and I got fucked by it :$. https://i.imgur.com/o51T104.png
Depends on where u are
I mean i took deadly assault for EK proj speed
For definition of today
both versions just seem worse than the 3.5 pathing
but this latest one is some shit
Maybe we should stop complaining before they add back the travel nodes to the jewel socket.
I'd rather spend 3 points on a jewel that I take sometimes than spend two extra points on every build that uses that section of the tree
I'm not sure if this is better as a joke or an actual change.
i will like the change >.>
So caustic. @.@
Okay it loses me one point unless I can justify taking Master of Force...
i got 18 hours till legue start
same here
so torrent will be nice >.>
Im steam
Hmm...any builds that can take both Master of Force and the AoE staff nodes?
They both feel out-of-the-way, especially trying to get them both.
shadow or witch
Shadow
yea you can get it
Do we have torrent yet?
k cause my internet is very 1990ish
also i need pob updated
Do we know if this is an actual change?
i doubt a joke would get posted on every social media
luckily there is time to not execute this bad idea
Like if ur gonna troll there u just remove all the connections
I don't even like the original 3.6 changes but I'll take them over this
the idea might be good if their intention is to nerf the shadow area
why not nerf templar/witch area
Can they do it with numbers instead pls
😦
the original 3.6 changes already cost me 2 points as a sabo
If they wanna nerf
can they put arcane potency cluster between shadow and witch pls 😄
Id rather take inefficient nodes and have a clean tree
can someone explain to me why the recent shadow node changes posted by Bex are bad?
Than have all these nice nodes and have my tree look like bob ross fucked a spaghetti maker
Life builds lose a point
the new routing was at least 1 point loss for any life build
A. They are ugly as fuck
B. They make pathing to life super awkward
2 points
and 2 if you were a trapper
and getting the power charge will be a silly looking
I was a life trapper~
i need an illustration for why you could lose 1 life point
sorry im just not good with visualizing this =[
Is CI viable with soul mantle?
it's because you used to be able to jump straight out from a minor point of resourcefulness
to the life connection
and you used to be able to jump directly from calculation to expeditious munitions
both jumps were made 1 point slower
you think thats bad try this
am i stupid or is that just the same amount of nodes???
i counted it myself
am i bad at counting or what
because i dont see any difference
it's not worse than the shittier 3.6 version
depends on your pathing
in terms of points
it sucks with my pathing
my setup wastes 2 points
I for one like the current setup
it's just uglier in terms of forced routing
instead of fangs I have to run through a shitty minor lethal node
yeah i mean you are forced to take a certain path, but thats what you have to do for efficiency.
We don't know yet if we will be able to provide a torrent this evening but if we do it typically becomes available at around 8-9pm NZT.
it's already 2 points worse than the 3.5 routing
i personally like the newer change
which is what people actually wanted fixed
simply for aesthetics
Just make every notable on the tree instant access from start point. Then maybe reddit will be happy
carap its 3 oclock in the morning wont be up
but furthermore, the newer change allows you to jump directly to mind drinker/jewel
i think i lost 3 points to make a good path for me
by jump straight to it you mean take 3 points through resourcefulness sure
Eh if I can still get a good build thats fun to play i wont mind the efficiency
also, does anyone notice the change to the Expeditious Munitions and Depth Perception nodes???
looks like they 180ed the orientation.
Oh I thought you meant stats
anyway, im interested to see what other "hotfixes" they made to the passive tree between the 3.6 patch notes announcement and now
well there isnt much time left
anything extra hteyve added to the patch notes already
Can Trickster make a good miner? I feel squishy and might want ghost shroud over QoL
oh god my pathing is horrible to hit all the nodes
do you have MoM?
Yeah
you could go elementalist traps/mines
but self-casting is apparently a thing this patch so no?
Wait I was talking about as an ES miner, oops.
i mean you could still go Sab LL miner
cos they basically kill everything in the game
they buffed ice trap
Coward Legacy might be better than LL tho
Guys, if my dmg is primarily lightning, what are good skills to proc EE? i'm blanking out really hard
Any skills that do only fire or cold
Brands are good yeah
or too slow
Golem only works in the ring
ah
Ur golem doesnt have ee
OH RIGHT
Unless u put in malachai artifice
Vortex is instant
HMm.. i'm going Divine Ire
Cause cooldown
Did Gifts from Above just become a really good ring?
and i'm wondering what would work best to proc EE
Vortex can be casted without breaking channel
so Vortex the way to go you'd say?
Well youd have a hard time charging up and not proccing EE
Unless you stood at a distance
i guess arma brand currently the top contender
Yeah go arma brand
@fallen pewter the shadow changes fix my ci tree
by 2 pts
so maybe it was bad pathing but honestly
with that many notables, it's always gonna be pretty difficult
why 7confirmed

can we keep it the same for like a day
maybe this will wokr 
oh for the love of ...

when normally Filters are up for the new league ?
before its start
few hours before
captain obvious Strike again :3
Captain obvious is always on strike, its amazing he gets any work at all honestly.
wow
Woah
Free kaoms roots for party
But at the same time ruins reckless defense builds
that stat requrirement
600 str 752 int
does that nullify temporal chain map mods?
yea
this is almost tailored to go with that new headgear they teased some days ago
Anyone else running DIvine Ire? (non ignite)
or is anyone able ot educate me how to scale ignite for it
it's also possibly great option for an aurabot
cos i've never played ignite before 😦
should be able to get those numbers on ascendant mjolner
The touch of GAD
you would certainly be looking for + stats on everything
i like them as they add depth to the game and their easy to understand
i feel like its tailored for aurabots simply because i've seen many aurabot builds just go around the "path" on the passive tree picking up stat nodes just to get to aura bonuses, so theyll likely have a lot of str/int already
Wew lad that is a lot of required stats
Use it with helm of tribunal
50% more elemental damage and aurabots 
no way it isnt for aurabots
i mean why would you use it on an aurabot though
Crit and temp chains immunitt
you gain the damage dont you? not your carries
for the bottom 2 properties
but im conflicted because of the 50% bonus elemental damage



