Anything can clear t1 maps quick. The question is can you clear T16 maps? Can it boss? Do you need ED? If you do why aren't you playing Contagion instead?
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cedar pewter
cloud dome
Apropos, I really don't like the change to scorching ray. I liked its old interaction, now it's worthless until you get max stacks
swift pagoda
SR totems and then use an actual skill
jade badger
@cedar pewter I mean
jade badger
ever since ed got hit with literally exploding on impact
Idk if contagion is ognna help at this point
icy lake
lol, the whole point of chaos dot builds was they could clear red maps with basically no gears (cause there really wasn't any gear that affected them) and decay
burnt finch
yeah, the tiny explosion wont replace Contagion. but Bane might.
icy lake
so i'm seriously not worried about any of that
cedar pewter
I am
cedar pewter
If you can make SR clear on a 4L
jade badger
Mhm but soulrend is a proj
cedar pewter
That's actually going to be great
jade badger
and in the showcase video
It looks like it pierces infinitely to me
So it sounds like awesome clear
icy lake
SR, Decay + 2 relevant support probably will, lol
drowsy pulsar
Yeah it just passes through mobs and applies a DoT
cedar pewter
But if not, and I still have to run ED
jade badger
And now that ED explodes on impact and doesnt pierce
rose atlas
Man I wish they would just fix profane bloom so I can play occ ed
jade badger
And contagion not helping it anymore
cedar pewter
Why the hell am I not playing cont?
drowsy pulsar
Because contagion feels like shit to cast
cedar pewter
Why would contagion not help?
drowsy pulsar
if you dont' wanna run contagion, you dont' HAVE to
jade badger
not deal dps
cedar pewter
Yes, that's the reason you run contagion lol
drowsy pulsar
yeah, it's only meant to carry ED
jade badger
Yeah, but ED explodes on impact
drowsy pulsar
In a tiny area
jade badger
Unless it stil spreads
cedar pewter
in a tiny area
burnt finch
a small explosion
cedar pewter
It'll still spread lol
drowsy pulsar
it's not going to be a clear skill on its own
cedar pewter
it spreads teh dot
burnt finch
it will only help vs annoying totems and allies can not die.
tame mason
ill gladly use inc aoe gem if the range is good to not use contagion at all...
jade badger
Ah kk
But tbh, Soulrend looks better for clear
But if not, I'll switch to contagion
burnt finch
ED will never have mentionable aoe
jade badger
Hopefully soulrend has infinite pierce
cedar pewter
Contagion ed is one of the fastest clearers w/o gear
drowsy pulsar
Yeah, the builds will effectively be the same
rose atlas
ED will almost certainly need contagion to clear with
icy lake
for specific maps
cedar pewter
For any dense maps
drowsy pulsar
but I hate casting Contagion so I'm gonna bear down on soulrend, bad or not
rose atlas
Unless you use soulrend instead
icy lake
but soul rend will probably do just that with 1 spell
cedar pewter
Soul rend you have to put up with walls and DOORS
burnt finch
DOORS, man. The bane of clear speed.
jade badger
Its not like scourge arrow levels of pain
drowsy pulsar
I legit don't care, I've lived my bow-character-ass life having to deal with walls and doors
cedar pewter
Fucking doors
rose atlas
At least soulrend doesn't get killed by profane bloom
jade badger
^
cedar pewter
Yeah that's true
drowsy pulsar
That too
cedar pewter
For trickster, though, unless its numbers are amazing, ED+Cont is going to be faster
burnt finch
Just ES occultist with ES and chaos nodes instead of curse nodes 😛
rose atlas
Yeah soulrend OCC or ed trickster
icy lake
if SR Decay GMP + void maniq is enough damage for mobbing
which it probably will be
since decay was buffed too
drowsy pulsar
God, now I'm convinced I'm only going soulrend on Trickster out of spite
rose atlas
Lol
rose atlas
I mean it will probably work just fine
cedar pewter
Of SR Decay GMP FC is enough to clear trash, that's going to be amazing
tame mason
https://youtu.be/ttI72QLkjkU?t=17 so uh soulrend autotarget apparently
drowsy pulsar
Yeah that's another thing
burnt finch
ED + SR might be decent for clearing
cedar pewter
If you need 2 6Ls or 5Ls, though
drowsy pulsar
it it just noodles its way around on its own
jade badger
why though?
burnt finch
ED + Cont is god of clear. SR will never beat it.
cedar pewter
you could do what a lot of summoners do
jade badger
Its said to be stronger than ED
burnt finch
But ED + SR meant better boss damage.
jade badger
^ what I mean
cedar pewter
and use SR for your 6L chest and have ED on a 6L staff
rose atlas
SR might assist Ed's clear against really tough packs
jade badger
I dont need god clearing
I just need enough to clear it fast
While still dealing tons of dps against bosses
burnt finch
yeah, I think chaos spell might go with two 6L
cedar pewter
Well, for starters
cedar pewter
Even ED doesn't do "tons" of dps against bosses
rose atlas
I think sr will be not great on bosses
jade badger
It most likely wont
cedar pewter
It's like..5-6 minute shaper kills in full gear
jade badger
but its a skill to use as a support
cedar pewter
You're not going to be AMAZING boss dps lol
drowsy pulsar
True but you have more than JUST ED for bosses now
jade badger
^
tame mason
soulrend totem with ed self cast? xd
rose atlas
True
cedar pewter
The thing tops out at like 500-600k dps
icy lake
so this is my thoughts: if SRend needs the extra links to clear, run staff/bow + armor, otherwise just do a 4L with Decay, gmp and void maniq
tame mason
add decay gem
burnt finch
you might still want blight or wither totems
drowsy pulsar
I'd rather 4L the ED
cedar pewter
then you're around 80k-100kdps
icy lake
depends on the skill
jade badger
mhm
icy lake
but there is no way it won't clear in a 6L
cedar pewter
4L ED doesn't..boss very well
jade badger
not ed lmao
tame mason
gonna wait for the gem number tmw.. bane vs soulrend. leggo xd
cedar pewter
talking about ishiga
jade badger
ah kk
cedar pewter
I'd have it on a staff if you had the option
icy lake
with the new staff nodes, it may make sense for a staff
jade badger
^yeah
cedar pewter
+2 staff w/ 100 spell damage is nice
charred pawn
EK TOTEM META META
jade badger
I'm starting to think that
burnt finch
there is the unique staff that has +2 chaos gems and non chaos ailment multiplier
jade badger
and most likely staff will be better than bow
tame mason
he didnt last league . he updated after league launch
cedar pewter
Well the question is: Is a +3 bow better than a +2 staff
burnt finch
i suspect he'll update saturday or monday
cedar pewter
Because +3 bow is easier to get and probably cheaper than a +2 6L staff
Unless scourge arrow is meta
then get fucked
burnt finch
everything +chaos will go up in price this league
icy lake
i posted this earlier... but with either staff or bow
- +1 gem alt spam (1 prefix, 0 suffix)
- Regal and hit suffix (1 prefix, 1 suffix)
- craft multimod (1 prefix, 2 suffix)
- craft +2 support gems (2 prefix, 2 suffix)
- craft % more damage over time (3 prefix, 2 suffix)
- craft % chaos damage (3 prefix, 3 suffix)
If hit prefix at 2.
3. Annual the non +1 prefix(1 prefix, 0 suffix)
4. continue from 3 to 6 from above
5. craft w/e suffix with the open suffix
tame mason
crafting will be easier
burnt finch
but never crafted a +3 stuff, so no idea
tame mason
maybe
jade badger
Thing i
charred pawn
What will be your starter this league boys :) ?
cedar pewter
SPORK
jade badger
@charred pawn sr + ed occultist
icy lake
i might do spork totem elementalist for giggles
jade badger
sr is soulrend, and not scorching ray lol
burnt finch
ED starter is 90% likely at this point. liked it last league and this league it's just crazy better (or soulrend/bane/whatever crazy chaos dot shenanigans)
cedar pewter
I have no idea what form of spark I'm doing
but im definitely doing spark
I fucking love spoders
LIGHTNING SPODERS EVERYWHERE
jade badger
better than crystal meth
icy lake
forking spoders
cedar pewter
I bought it and vaal spark got nerfed a fucking week later
tame mason
self cast ed eb mom trickster 
cedar pewter
Lol Forking spoders indeed!
cedar pewter
I hope SR has single target
jade badger
If not I'll just use contagion lool
icy lake
depends on how close the packs are really
cedar pewter
I really want SR to be a solid all-rounder
jade badger
^
tame mason
the showcase video is lying a bit... 6L soulrend while lvling and hide number
jade badger
Same thing they did as lancing steel honestly
tame mason
so clear is kinda slow?
jade badger
But SR doesnt look like it'll fail like its lancing steel
burnt finch
I want contagion to spread Soulrend
icy lake
lancing steel looks like shet anyways in the reveal
cedar pewter
I want contagion to spread decay
icy lake
at least to me, lol
jade badger
Actually, if Soulrend does jack dps
jade badger
I'll just use @icy lake idea
twin iris
G'night mate
jade badger
sr + decay + gmp and uh, faster proj
swift pagoda
why the faster proj ?
jade badger
clear
burnt finch
more range
tame mason
cuz projecticle is very slow as fuck in the video
twin iris
Does Soulrend hit though?
nimble pond
IS storm brand still viable after the nerf ? and how can i proc EO now with the base crit reduced to 0 % in early game ?
jade badger
ED also hits
icy lake
faster proj is clear skill gem for proj skills with duration
twin iris
Huh, thought it was some weird new thing.
swift pagoda
can you fork it is the big question
jade badger
^
icy lake
@nimble pond proc EE with another spell
jade badger
I've never actually see fork in action
twin iris
No, pierce is above fork in priority
icy lake
yea
tame mason
u cannot use fork on soulrend because it pierce
icy lake
you can't pierce and fork
jade badger
ah kk
swift pagoda
oh right it's a pierce proj
nimble pond
lecrash what u mean other spell i used to proc it with stormbrand
jade badger
And its infinite pierce so uh
twin iris
Can't remember if fork or chain is higher, though
swift pagoda
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Snakepit lets chain it
jade badger
If SR is bad at single target I'll put it in a 4l
swift pagoda
or fork
twin iris
If they stack with slower Proj, it'll be pretty damn god
burnt finch
ED + SR bosskiller with Bane pack clear :galaxybrain:
icy lake
@nimble pond well... now you need to have a skill that doesn't have controlled destruction linked (maybe a utility orb of storms) to proc EE
if your stormbrand has 0% crit
jade badger
why bane though
nimble pond
orb of storms with increased cit strikes ?
swift pagoda
just pick up some crit on the tree or gear
burnt finch
Bane is instant cast aoe damage
twin iris
Usually OoS with ICS CoH and Curse is good
burnt finch
SR is weird slow proj
nimble pond
yeh but its uncomfortable if u have to cast another skill besides storm brand
icy lake
OoS with onslaught is where it's at this league
jade badger
Plus more benefits such as
es leech
homing missile
is a proj
icy lake
😉
nimble pond
was there focus with that change to remove easy acces in early game to get EO proc ?
burnt finch
But doors man. Doors!
twin iris
Huh, didn't think of OoS with Onslaught
icy lake
i'd probably just do OoS, onslaught, cull and PCoC
nimble pond
was their intention to scale it to 0 % to make it harder get EO proc or what was their philosophy with that crit change ?
twin iris
That works
nimble pond
cuz makes no sense for me
icy lake
well, yes it is probably intentionally making you have to work for EO
nimble pond
lvling without EO is really bad and picking up crit notes early one is also very bad
icy lake
maybe look at some other support that's not controlled destruction then
if you want to proc EO with your main skill
swift pagoda
dropping Cd is an option
icy lake
there are new support gems
nimble pond
even without controlled destruction linked ur crit is still 0 % so no EO proc
twin iris
We DO have some new supports. and some old buffed ones. Work through PoB when it updates, see what works better
swift pagoda
without CD there is no problem
icy lake
spells all have at least 5% base crit
jade badger
So wait
jagged imp
not after 3.6
icy lake
jagged imp
after 3.6 hits cap is 0% - 100 %
swift pagoda
storm brand has a base crit of 5.5
icy lake
BASE CRIT boys
BASE
CRIT
if you have 0% modifier to crit
your spell will have 5% or more chance to crit
jagged imp
he's unaware PepeLaugh
twin iris
@jade badger Void manip, GMP
icy lake
they even added base crit chance to spells from items
twin iris
Probably controlled destruction, Crit doesn't really matter when it's a chaos skill and DoT
icy lake
exactly because prior to this change
jade badger
Actually
icy lake
those spells had 5% base crit
twin iris
Not sure, haven't looked at it yet
jade badger
Is Decay worth using in ED and Soulrend
icy lake
regardless
twin iris
I've only ever played Dark pact and Blight for chaos skills
icy lake
Decay is like a whole nother dot skill
nimble pond
would it be enough to pick annihilation early one to still use controlled destruction ?
icy lake
dealing close to 1k dot
jade badger
per sec?
burnt finch
not scaled with spell damage, right?
icy lake
not scaled with spell damage
jade badger
with delirium essence
burnt finch
I don't think the buff to decay will bring it to usefulness
fierce torrent
I like how they also nerfed any slower (2hander) builds with the leech changes
burnt finch
I'd assume it scales with non ailment dot multi (is there any useful acronym for this?)
icy lake
yea, decay isn't listed in wiki under ailment
so it should get scaled by all the chaos damage modifiers
and non-ailment multipliers
jade badger
So
what i get for ed gems
and sr gems
ED + Swift Affliction + Void Manipulation + Controlled Destruction + Decay and Empower?
Or replace decay with efficacy
icy lake
so depends on how much of those you invested in... it's like 1/4 ~1/2 of the dot ED would do
well, i think if you have 2 skills that inflict dots
put decay on 1 of them
tame mason
gonna wait for pob update to know for sure because less duration support might be bit better if u grab all of the inc dmg nodes
icy lake
since 2 instances of decay don't stack afaik
jade badger
So what do I place decay in
icy lake
whichever skill has the lower base damage numbers
tame mason
wither totem? 
icy lake
since the higher base skill will get scaled better by other supports
tame mason
nvm both are suport
icy lake
wither won't apply decay i don't think
jade badger
wanton flower
Still gonna make a flicker strike build, doesn't seem like much is changed which would affect it 
wanton flower
openarl said anything about updating PoB?
tame mason
wait for lvl 20 gem reveal tmw and no
expect psot league release update
Although Soulrend is designed to work on its own for most encounters, it also works well alongside Essence Drain to combine their significant damage over time effects while restoring both Energy Shield and Life. I guess throw decay on SR for boss assist
icy lake
i'd not put empower on soul rend for now, b/c we donno it's numbers and it is probably better off to put decay on it
jade badger
y tho
rose atlas
Does sr hit?
jade badger
yes
rose atlas
Big if true
icy lake
you hsould have decay in between one of your two skills imo
delicate tartan
Weren't we supposed to have a third chaos skill revealed?
icy lake
since decay at 900 dot base damage gets scaled by all your other sources of damage over time etc
delicate tartan
But if the aura is counted it means there's 4 holy skills?
mild heath
1 question, with Assassin's critical damage can't be reflected and 100% crit chance, it means you're invulnerable to reflect maps right?
icy lake
it shouldn't chance anything for assassins since they already was hitting 100% effective crit
even tho crit was "capped" at 95%
with sources that added crit chance to the final hit
pine forge
i don't think decay will be that great to be honest. Don't forget that decay will not be supportet by the other 4 support gems you have linked to you skill. So it wont do that much dmg
rose atlas
Is there any reason to use the decay gem when decay weapons exist?
mild heath
Only against Full life and low life enemies tho
jade badger
its a support gem tho
pine forge
@rose atlas the gem has significantly more dmg
rose atlas
Ah forgot about that nerf
icy lake
Decay get scaled by the ~200% chaos damage dot multiplier from tree and generic chaos damage nodes
tame mason
we will know for sure tmw dude
tame mason
atm contagion spread faster than SR based on video so
jade badger
Ah
Since we're not using contagion
ED is strictly single target
For its basically dot explosion
And SR is to spread Decay to enemies
since it basically has infinite pierce
this is how i get it rite
icy lake
sure
burnt finch
Efficient for what?
tame mason
good point since contagion dont spread decay
so by dfefault decay is good on SR because of that
and not on ed
unless u not using contagion then it doesnt matter much i think? 4L wise or whatnot
icy lake
basically that
icy lake
should be
tame mason
cant tell without pob update yet
icy lake
it is hard to nail anything down for sure, but yes it should clear because SRend for a new skill will have relevant damage
nimble pond
Question about Hatred. Is it a buff for melee or a nerf ?
icy lake
and decay was pretty famous for clearing lower tier red maps on it's own
swift pagoda
buff for glacial hammer nerfed for anything else
icy lake
hatred is slightly less damage for pure phys spells
nimble pond
what about pure phys attacks ?
icy lake
but for spells with cold conversion built in, or if you use items to convert phys to cold
it should perform the same
for cold spells it is a buff
violet nymph
Is pob updated or not yet
burnt finch
If you deal pure phys it grants you (level 20) 29,5% phys as cold. Down from 36%
burnt finch
Probably not till monday I'd guess.
swift pagoda
Openarl needs to fix them bugs before release
violet nymph
We'll have to use poeskilltree
icy lake
spork is back, PoB is dead, feels like i am back to beta
swift pagoda
spreadsheet math incoming
icy lake
junior onyx
Anyone knows when mathil streams?
twin iris
Isn't PoB usually updated a few hours before patch? Did I just not notice in 3.5? or did something happen?
violet nymph
problem with bane is you cast a curse, wich mean stuff won't be cursed
icy lake
how good bane will be is gona purely depends on how fast it cast
violet nymph
ye
twin iris
@junior onyx usually a few hours before leaguestart
violet nymph
and mana cost
twin iris
Will actually play when the league starts
swift pagoda
and the base dmg
violet nymph
When Chris lets out openarl from basement
icy lake
i don't expect mana cost to be an issue since if you link a bunch of curse to it, there is no mana multiplier
barren crescent
We don't know how busy Openarl will be
burnt finch
last league he missed the league start by a bunch iirc?
barren crescent
hopefully he can update pob in time, at least for tree+gems
burnt finch
And I suspect this will be normal for now
worldly scaffold
right now its gonna take a week or so lol
swift pagoda
I want to link only 1 curse to it anyway then use the new gloves to cast 4 more
junior onyx
I mean if anyone knows when mathil streams patchnotes
violet nymph
Swear to god pob still doesn't have diadem
barren crescent
pob doesn't have any MM uniques
swift pagoda
mathil will be on a podcast in 8sih hours
worldly scaffold
its not gonna have it Amvi
I am sure
its best to find some forks people made
on github
and use them
twin iris
Hasn't everyone already done patchnotes?
novel pelican
someone posted an alpha version of a new builder/computator on reddit
barren crescent
Uly, if you find one mind linking it?
swift pagoda
ziz is about to start
violet nymph
time for some dissapointments I guess
novel pelican
stray phoenix
Tombfist no longer grants 6-10% increased Attack Speed. Existing versions of this item will lose the increased Attack Speed if a Divine Orb is used. Do it. We dare you.
analog anvil
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z7LQmaYKoTyWuFhpbOsaRXdcEZzrS45H55PqxXAtR1U/edit#gid=0 might be useful for some
bronze cave
So happy loreweave got nerfed
tame mason
2% lower. the horror
bronze cave
It's enough for me to be able to consider other chests
wanton flower
i lul'ed at the templar budget cuts reference
nimble pond
Tombfist nerfed. Loreweave nerfed. Hatred nerfed. Weapon crafting nerfed. Leech nerfed. even more melee nerfs this league
wanton flower
Still going melee
tame mason
brave
bronze cave
I'm still thinking about a full shaper item eternity shroud consecrated path build
wanton flower
albeit a flicker build
so i cant really go wrong
just gonna be some super easy synth farming early on
jade badger
Hey guys
wanton flower
will monsters be standing in the blue stuff?
jade badger
the explosion on impact ed is now better for single target rite
patent canyon
they said it doesnt hit
wanton flower
didn't see any ffrom the videos of synthesis
patent canyon
just applies degen in area
jade badger
ah kk
But still better for single target right
Like how caustic arrow applies its degen pool
jade badger
ah kk
But Soulrend hits right
so I can use shit like
gmp and faster proj/slower proj
patent canyon
yea
gaunt loom
Spark seems soooo big buffed
slim sun
arma brand rekt even tho 0.6% of ppl used it
violet nymph
rip cant kill uber elder on 20c budget
nimble pond
whats the difference between global physical damage and physical damage cuz on the new skill tree i can see alot of changes from global phys to yust phys
barren crescent
You must be joking if you are saying hatred is nerfed
static token
So, I'm not sure I'm seeing where these big buffs to self cast are. What new buffs are there that would not apply to traps, totems, coc, cwc?
violet nymph
auto bombers got buffed
gaunt loom
Spark coc yes ?
violet nymph
that should be really fun
limpid current
it's a matter of not nerfing traps and totems to punish people for using them
limpid current
the new supports and spell damage overall buffs are for encouraging self cast
static token
Spell buffs still buff spell totems, spell traps/mines.
barren crescent
also base dmg nerf + cast speed buff = trigger nerf
gaunt loom
We getting pob update tmr?
limpid current
good luck with that
static token
I think it took him a couple days last time due to the new job.
gaunt loom
Ow
cursive glen
how do i check which are the new passives on the skill tree?
is there a chart that's been made or is it painful cross-referencing time?
static token
http://poeskilltree.com/compare/3.6.0/
It's kind of updated, but still janky. At least for me
burnt finch
search doesnt seem to work, but yeah, better than reading and comparing by hand
cursive glen
also, the numbers on the new skills are not out?
hushed flame
20/20 gems are later today.
cursive glen
tomorrow for me, i see
tame mason
bane,soulrend,essence drain, decay dot all stack owo
burnt finch
Aye
glacial lotus
From the 3.6 online skill tree posted in Major-News. It's not mentioned in the patch notes though.
rose atlas
I don't know enough about mana scaling to know if this is strong or not
I guess it's a no brainer for people already taking the equivalent nodes in heiro?
open vale
4% max mana as max ES is the big part
tame mason
1000 mana * 0.04 = 40 es 🤔
rose atlas
That's the good scaling, right? The one where es % applies multiplicatively with mana %
I know at some point there were two types
I think added as extra was the good one
glacial lotus
It's the same wording as ES clarity watchers eye jewel, so its pretty crazy?
open vale
pretty massive to say the least
rose atlas
Pledge of hands coming through
violet nymph
it's live right now
tame mason
downloading rn
rose atlas
Oh wow nice, thought openarl was rip
violet nymph
yeah, me too 😄
tame mason
gg 3.6 tree update
patent canyon
rose atlas
Yo so this unleash gem. Seems like it might be pretty nuts with blade vortex and SRS, no?
violet nymph
or he is just a god and took his sleepy time to be nice to us
rose atlas
Instant 5 stacks
jade badger
WTF
patent canyon
srs
rose atlas
I mean SRS is pretty bad ATM but this would at least help it not be dead
If you can just stop to cast 5 at once
rose atlas
Blade vortex is probably the bigger benefactor
jade badger
Aw
rose atlas
Even with the nerf
rose atlas
Well we don't know what the radius is yet
coarse grove
wait
jade badger
Doesnt matter
coarse grove
wouldnt area damage be worthless on ED?
jade badger
just add aoe tag
tame mason
small radius. such vague
rose atlas
Area damage won't affect it
coarse grove
i shouldnt effect DoT tho
tame mason
it doesnt if u read patch note
coarse grove
non conc effect ed meh
tame mason
so decay is better than lvl 3 empower for ED until u get lvl 4 empower xd
barren crescent
Eds hit dmg is next to nothing
rose atlas
So only if your ED is for single target only
coarse grove
i mean unless your using essence decay weapon
tame mason
u dont need decay for clear tho only for single
rose atlas
Decay weapons also doesn't spread with contagion
rose atlas
Yeah
coarse grove
i really want to know how good soulrend hit vs dot is
rose atlas
Decay on soulrend should be pretty great
coarse grove
i mean i feel its pointless as a gem since there is an essence
rose atlas
I'm guessing it's mostly dot
tame mason
uh essence decay is worser
rose atlas
The gem deals over double damage of the essence
jade badger
I take aoe nodes
coarse grove
its worse, but i can get 6l+ that
rose atlas
Both are valid choices
barren crescent
Gmp soul rend +ed
rose atlas
Weapon is better on occultist though probably
frosty aurora
i dont see reductions on rare/unique
barren crescent
It is stronger for ppl who scale crit
rose atlas
Since that applies from profane bloom
barren crescent
But weaker for eo users etc
coarse grove
i want to use soulrend with a weapon that uses the veiled mod trigger socketed spell when u use a skill that thing thats bad? cus it has high cooldown? but use it with ed so cd doesnt really matter
covert bobcat
Any guesses how good the new Holy Flame Totem will be? Seems pretty good?
jade badger
Are AOE nodes still worth taking
rose atlas
Ass mark got a big buff for crit builds
frosty aurora
ass mark ring voila
rose atlas
New flame totem seems good for levelling
Big DMG increase
Might be higher level req
limpid current
the simplest effective thing you can do with ed and soulrend is to throw your ED at a boss or rare first
then spam soulrend to keep up its dot
coarse grove
oh fuck new shadow tree fucked up my build
covert bobcat
You don't think it will be good enough in endgame with the increased effectiveness?
And the new conversion
limpid current
soulrend is strictly a buff to chaos casters
you can use it as both a clearing skill and supplementary damage against a boss
coarse grove
wonder if soulrend dot gets spell damage benefit like ED does
jade badger
be
tame mason
most likely
jade badger
Also since the new es nodes in shadow
give flat es
It gives like, massive boost to ES
Should I also take soulthief lol
coarse grove
oh fuck soultheif looks nice
cursive glen
shield nodes with increased es on shield, is off the base or off the displayed es
coarse grove
12% max ES is IN
limpid current
the new shield wheel in the witch area basically gives out stupid good bonuses
as well
lone parrot
did path of building get updated?
jade badger
They look stupid
In a good way
@lone parrot yes
but
Is it worth taking
And replacing my soul-strike bow
pine forge
remember that es from shield is additive to your increase es you already have
lone parrot
wait so are the new skills there inn PoB or just skill tree
pine forge
so if you have +150 inc es and get +100 es from shield its 250 inc es from your shield
tame mason
just tree.. please read the update note lol
lone parrot
sorry im in school lmao
burnt finch
Now that this patch came this soon. Maybe he has the gem update ready and can unleash it once the 20/20 gems are unveiled?
How dope would that be ...
lone parrot
i hope divine ire has good flat dmg
violet nymph
in like 12 hours isn't it
cursive glen
btw PoB updated the skill tree
covert bobcat
Is there an updated online skill tree somewhere?
jade badger
@covert bobcat pob
limpid current
pob got updated
covert bobcat
PoB has an online version? I did not know that 😛
fierce torrent
lone parrot
you dont have PoB updated?
covert bobcat
I figured I don't wanna download it at work
delicate tartan
Patch note says council crafts are limited to 6 now, were they limited before and they increased or decreased the limit or did they just introduced the limit?
lone parrot
o
fierce torrent
crafts were never limited before
delicate tartan
That means higher price of prophecy then, right?
violet nymph
@delicate tartan the change only lets your full party get it I believe
before only the one that opened got it
fierce torrent
nah
violet nymph
u sure
delicate tartan
I think it says you can only craft 6 times?
patent canyon
it was limited to 1 person
fierce torrent
for real?
covert bobcat
poeskilltree.com just nearly crashed my whole pc, wow...
jade badger
@violet nymph Does more area effect and damage affect ED single target drastically
Or is it not worth taking?
fierce torrent
it does nothing for single target
gaunt loom
soul rend isnt lvl 1 gem?
fierce torrent
the area increase
delicate tartan
Oh OK it says crafting unlock, I guess it's just everybody in the party unlocks them
fierce torrent
the area damage=any other damage that buffs ED
covert bobcat
Soul Rend is A3, same as Bane
gaunt loom
Ooh
jade badger
So wait
gaunt loom
man chaos looks good now
fierce torrent
inb4 soul rend's numbers are super low
jade badger
Amplify and Blast Radius are useless for ED? @fierce torrent
gaunt loom
death aura buffed too
fierce torrent
area damage does affect ed now
delicate tartan
It might just be applied to the projectile just the dot
fierce torrent
but having a bigger area doesnt make ed deal mode damage to single targets
jade badger
What about the 40% more area damage
violet nymph
soul rend you probably have to choose between clear and bosses
fierce torrent
40% more area damage is 40% more damage for ed
violet nymph
^
burnt finch
Yeah, area damage must not necessarily increase dot damage
But ... PoB should show that easily?
violet nymph
yeah I have no idea about that
fierce torrent
i think ed has that mentioned on the gem, no?
violet nymph
yeah it says
jade badger
Nope
rose atlas
There is still no area damage on ED
jade badger
On POB it doesnt, no area tag
violet nymph
modifiers to spell damage modifies the skills damage over time
violet nymph
but it should be easy to test tho
jade badger
how tho
patent canyon
create jewel with proj damage
jade badger
ah
patent canyon
jade badger
40% more damage then
patent canyon
spell damage
violet nymph
that's proj and not area tho?
violet nymph
I suppose
rose atlas
Area damage won't affect ER at all
patent canyon
same as blight
rose atlas
ED*
patent canyon
yes
fierce torrent
yep
knotty salmon
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fierce torrent
didn't ED get a buff?
knotty salmon
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fierce torrent
ED starters are a thing, yeah
gaunt loom
chaos starters seems good now yh
rose atlas
Essence drain will be a super meta starter
gaunt loom
along with soul rend maybe
knotty salmon
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rose atlas
ED trickster or Soulrend occultist
jade badger
So this is absolutely useless, cause it doesnt even scale with the dot
fierce torrent
welcome to post 2.6 poe
rose atlas
Also fine
patent canyon
🇫 double dips
jade badger
@fierce torrent So
knotty salmon
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jade badger
If Area damage doesnt scale with dot
rose atlas
But occultist too good to pass up when it isn't breaking your contagion chains imo
violet nymph
why scale proj tho?
fierce torrent
the 'why' is not important
rose atlas
It basically just hits to apply decay
fierce torrent
it's a thing, thats all i meant
patent canyon
if you want to play on hit ed 🙃
fierce torrent
scale the dot then
patent canyon
so dont
jade badger
Its not worth taking those nodes then?
patent canyon
no
fierce torrent
nope
jade badger
Ah kk
That saves me alot of points then
see ya, amplify and blast radius
i loved you for an hour
fierce torrent
doesnt pob let you pick ether the proj or the dot portion of ED?
violet nymph
yeah, I guess I was wrong on that, don't see how I got it wrong tbh, it's pretty obvious
fierce torrent
shouldnt you see the changes?
fierce torrent
yup
violet nymph
yeah forget about it 😄
jade badger
Kk then
What about retribution
Is it worth taking without spiritual aid
Actually
fierce torrent
don't just name passives, i don't remember them all D:
jade badger
I can take spiritual aid now
fierce torrent
spiritual aid wouldnt affect the dot either
rancid fossil
it wouldnt?
jade badger
It puts more dot dps tho
fierce torrent
it does?
rancid fossil
its all damage no?
patent canyon
lemme see
violet nymph
that's weird
fierce torrent
cool beans
tame mason
waiting on malevolence aura stat to see if it's worth the 50% reserve scam on essence worm
violet nymph
I hate that node 😄
jade badger
@violet nymph y tho
Wait
Wouldnt I have to take minion nodes now
more minion damage mods*
violet nymph
because it makes balancing summoners weird
fierce torrent
well, that's kind of the whole point
jade badger
On weapons/other stuff
fierce torrent
rip bone helmet
burnt finch
But you can use it with enchants now
obsidian gate
about to be some hype in major news i think
burnt finch
So more like a buff for bone helmets
violet nymph
yeah that's what I mean, the reason they had to nerf bone helmet was probably spiritual aid
patent canyon
well i mean bone helms can have enchants now
burnt finch
I think the reason for the nerf was that it is no langer a tradeoff between the minion damage and the enchants
same reason the nerfed the boots
violet nymph
yeah, but summoners having that extra enchant is not such a big deal
burnt finch
you can have your (now smaller) cake and eat it too
jade badger
So
obsidian gate
u use the bone helm with the passive to give yourself 40% damage
fierce torrent
it's no longer 40% damage tho
jade badger
melding
patent canyon
i think you take it
obsidian gate
theyre making the old ones change too?
violet nymph
spiritual aid also allows you to travel through the nodes above the witch
jade badger
It still is tho
fierce torrent
nah
patent canyon
chaos dots have limited passives on tree
jade badger
In pob?
fierce torrent
legacy hats stay
jade badger
it says 40% increased damage
burnt finch
I think you actually get enough passives now. Like the staff nodes that now also work for ED.
patent canyon
ohh right new nodes
jade badger
I dont use staff tho
Plus I'm keeping my bow
So I can use Soul-Strike as well, and have a level 25 ed
obsidian gate
do our passives get reset friday
twin iris
"PoB wont update" Lol
velvet palm
What does the change from inc global phys to simply inc phys on the tree do?
haughty harbor
@obsidian gate in standard yes
burnt finch
I think it's just a wording change
haughty harbor
Yup
violet nymph
definitely just a wording change, local damage on a node would be weird
violet nymph
what about it
velvet palm
they changed it from "x% Life Leeched per second" to "x% increased total Recovery per second from Life Leech"
twin iris
There's an explanation to how the new leech works on the subreddit
It's quite stupid, honestly.
violet nymph
yeah there are tons of explanations
halcyon veldt
you can leech normally with brands, right?
twin iris
Yes
halcyon veldt
i've forgotten, ty
twin iris
Brands can leech
high scaffold
does anyone feel like its hard to travel around those new juicy nodes when trying to make build?
twin iris
Just go ES, then it's easy
high scaffold
and i dont even know if its good or worth it
twin iris
YOu pick them up, that's the only solution
high scaffold
lol
twin iris
Seriously though, Soulthief is REALLY GOOD if you're an ES spell crit build