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[jade badger]

Shortbow only has more dex requirement

It shouldnt affect offcolor rolls

[limber spire]

it does

[worthy basalt]

shortbow is just cheap

[jade badger]

Like, very little

[limber spire]

more dex = more green

[violet nymph]

@kindred dagger mines and totems do not leech nor do they really gain anything from cast speed

[limber spire]

barely but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[icy lake]

white socket craft still gona be in league

[rancid fossil]

ye

[jade badger]

@icy lake What was that delve mod again

For spell damage

its on poedb

right

[icy lake]

aetheric fossile

[worthy basalt]

I wonder if that intensity support will be good with soulrend

[icy lake]

socketed skills deal % more spell damage

[rancid fossil]

@fallen oyster experiment

[strong lantern]

it buffs aoe dmg, souldrend is a projectile i think

[jade badger]

What else for crafting

The usual fossils to cancel mods and get +1 to gems bow?

[worthy basalt]

isnt it the multiple cast gem

[icy lake]

pretty much just that

[strong lantern]

nah thats unleash m8

[grave valve]

intensity is unleash?

[icy lake]

all you need to roll are the 2 prefixes

[kindred dagger]

@violet nymph yeah but thats the point they do SO much damage without investement in casting so and leech that never have been an issue with all those build so, but i guess there is just new type now with ES leech and faster casting buff, we'll see

[grave valve]

no

unleash != intensity

[icy lake]

2 prefixes with an open prefix

[grave valve]

intensity is better for channels

[icy lake]

no suffix matters

[worthy basalt]

oh I meant unleash yeah mb

[strong lantern]

intensify literally intensifies/concentrates the aoe smaller but more powerful, like a variable conc effect

[worthy basalt]

got them mixed up

[jade badger]

Wait

Wouldnt it be expensive

Since I have to use

[worthy basalt]

unleash would be cool with soulrend

[jade badger]

the 4 fossil resonator

[icy lake]

like i said...

[grave valve]

for specific crafting? yea

[strong lantern]

unleash will be super good for mapping

[worthy basalt]

getting a top tier bow cost money

[icy lake]

you can just spam aetheric until you get +1 and the more spell damage

[grave valve]

but you can just roll dense fossils with like

[worthy basalt]

just use something like cane of unraveling if you cant afford one

[icy lake]

and open prefix

[grave valve]

nothing else

on chestplates

[jade badger]

kk then

time to get to work

[violet nymph]

guess what

[icy lake]

and if you just did normal craft

[worthy basalt]

a 5l cane will be plenty enough to carry early bosses

[violet nymph]

arc is dead time to commit sepuku

[worthy basalt]

with ed

[jade badger]

go commit sepuku

please

[violet nymph]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[worthy basalt]

and then your 6l can be soulrend

[icy lake]

you just need +1 skill with 2 open prefix and an open suffix

[kindred dagger]

lol this forcing dude 😄

[icy lake]

to multi mode +2 to suppoort and more chaos damage over time

[limber spire]

nice qol would be another open suffix for arcane surge on kill

[grave valve]

lmao

[icy lake]

and it'll probably do about the same damage as the delve fossil craft

[grave valve]

this uh

bruh saying arc dead

[tiny hatch]

Due to Templar budget cuts (and performance concerns (but mostly fiscal responsibility)), many of the Blackguard Jaegers in the Ascent have lost their capes.
lol

[worthy basalt]

altough you can use storm brand/ bane for arcane surge

[jade badger]

Wait what about

Me getting corroded fossils as well

[grave valve]

i'm literally at the point where i'm going to block people who say a specific skill is dead

[jade badger]

And using that in a 2 resonator

[grave valve]

when the majority of its nerf is like -20% damage

[icy lake]

🤷 all you really need is 1 mod

[worthy basalt]

you can try and use a 3 socket resonator to block mods

[jade badger]

what about multimod

Kk then

Aetheric

Corroded

And Prismatic

[violet nymph]

for what

[worthy basalt]

yeah that works

[icy lake]

@jade badger just need 2 open prefix and 1 open suffix(to craft multimod) with +1 to skill gems if you don't fossil craft

[worthy basalt]

altough aetheric on its own works too

[violet nymph]

looks like cancelling crap

[limpid current]

https://i.redd.it/9as6s447xek21.jpg

[icy lake]

and you can multimod the +2 support level and % more chaos damage overtime prefixes

[violet nymph]

guys i have a question

[worthy basalt]

es is looking so good

[jade badger]

wait

Multimod consumes

A prefix/suffix

[worthy basalt]

cant wait to play occultist

[limber spire]

suffix

[icy lake]

suffix

[jade badger]

ah kk

[violet nymph]

i want to do an ascendant with tombfist and loreweave, how bad will i die this league

[icy lake]

so if you want to multimod

[jade badger]

Why 2 open prefixes though

For the +1 to support gems

[worthy basalt]

please stop asking paul

[jade badger]

And a non ailment chaos mod

[worthy basalt]

you got your answer

[icy lake]

because both +2 support and % damage with chaos mod are prefix

+1 to gems is a prefix

[jade badger]

@violet nymph i answered your question already

[icy lake]

that's 3 prefixes total, 2 crafted

[tiny hatch]

Vorici on Escort duty now gives more and better quality Gems, including a 21 to 23% Quality Gem at Rank 3.
ooo fun

[violet nymph]

i had to leave let me check

[limber spire]

roll +1 gems prefix, craft +2 support prefix & chaos dot multi prefix

[worthy basalt]

it will be perfectly fine

[violet nymph]

my dumbass levels are peaking tonight

[jade badger]

Chaos dot multi prefix?

[worthy basalt]

just not as insane

[jade badger]

The non ailment one

rite

[icy lake]

yes

it goes up to 40%

[jade badger]

Kk, my only mods are "Socketed skills deal 20% more spell damage"

And +1 to gem

Time to multimod bb

[icy lake]

so for strictly dots

non fossil craft is actually better, lol

[worthy basalt]

well you cant get the 20% more damage

[jade badger]

y

[worthy basalt]

but it honestly isnt that big of a deal

[jade badger]

Chaos scales with spell damage too

unless my roll is a little too unrealistic and high

[worthy basalt]

you cant get if you dont use fossils

[jade badger]

I plan to use tho

[limber spire]

paragon's is a rare thing to roll

[worthy basalt]

LeCrash was suggesting non fossil

but this bow will cost you hella money

[icy lake]

@tiny flint it is +1 gem +2 support with 20% more spell damage vs. +1 gem +2 support with up to 40% more chaos dot

[jade badger]

Wait why though

Its only 1 fossil

Not doing the tri fossil anymore

With the one resonator

[worthy basalt]

rare mods + multimod

[icy lake]

aetheric gona be expensive

[limber spire]

rolling +1 gems (paragon's) is a 0.42% chance

[icy lake]

lol

[jade badger]

o wtf

[worthy basalt]

and less sulphite scarabs

[jade badger]

So how do I craft this without fossils

[icy lake]

next league everyone and their mom gona horde aetheric fossiles

[worthy basalt]

and then you have to annul

[limber spire]

alt and regal

then annul

[jade badger]

What do I alt though

Till I get the +1 to gems mod?

Wai

[icy lake]

@jade badger alt spam until you get +1 gem level, regal it immediately and hope you regal a suffix

[jade badger]

is it even possible to get it

ah kk

[limber spire]

yes

alt until you see Paragon's

then regal

[icy lake]

that's gona be the cheapest way to get it

[jade badger]

@icy lake huh

[limber spire]

then annul and pray

[jade badger]

I mean

its 50/50

50% chance i cry

50% chance i cry tears of joy

[limber spire]

depends on if you roll a suffix with the prefix

since that means you need to annul twice

[icy lake]

that's pretty good odds for crafting, lol

[jade badger]

Yeap

[icy lake]

alt a lone +1 to gems, and 50% chance to have end game weapon

[jade badger]

Anyways

[icy lake]

seems pretty fkn good to me

[jade badger]

Since I have just 1 mod then

[limber spire]

that's how i got my endgame bow last league

[jade badger]

1 suffix by the multimod

And the +1 to support gems with 1 prefix

I have 1 more prefix and 2 suffixes to use

What should I get

The non ailment thing

is a suffix mod right

[icy lake]

prefix

[limber spire]

prefix

[icy lake]

http://poeaffix.net/2h-bow.html#/

[limber spire]

http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Bow

[jade badger]

Ah, I have enough then

[icy lake]

pretty much non of the suffixes matter

so you can even craft resist on them

[jade badger]

but I have extra

hm, kk

[icy lake]

and it's w/e

[jade badger]

Ah

More damage over time

[icy lake]

there is a % chaos damage mastercraft for suffix

[jade badger]

More damage over time

[icy lake]

but other than that you don't need anything else

[jade badger]

hm, kk

[cursive widget]

is it just me or is ES going to be the bees knees this next league

[jade badger]

oh lol

I cant go more damage over time

its a prefix mod

[violet nymph]

i came for op changes not crafting advice

[icy lake]

1. +1 gem alt spam (1 prefix, 0 suffix)
2. Regal and hit suffix (1 prefix, 1 suffix)
3. craft multimod (1 prefix, 2 suffix)
4. craft +2 support gems (2 prefix, 2 suffix)
5. craft % more damage over time (3 prefix, 2 suffix)
6. craft % chaos damage (3 prefix, 3 suffix)

If hit prefix at 2.
3. Annual the non +1 prefix(1 prefix, 0 suffix)
4. continue from 3 to 6 from above
5. craft w/e suffix with the open suffix

end game weapon for ED/Soul rend complete

[jade badger]

dam

Actually

oh wtf

[limber spire]

also works for vortex

[jade badger]

you didnte ven use an annul

[icy lake]

yea

[limber spire]

replace dot with cold damage prefix

[icy lake]

literally that 50/50

and that's it

if you failed the 50/50

[violet nymph]

for vortex you hope to god you roll heartstopping

[icy lake]

annual still is 50/50

[violet nymph]

which i never got in 12000 alts

[icy lake]

and that give you another open suffix

[midnight turtle]

Anybody here going to rush shaper with their league starter? If so what build are you going to do now?

[limber spire]

what mod is heartstopping

[jade badger]

ed + soulrend

[violet nymph]

T1 Cold DoT

its a prefix

[limber spire]

on a bow?

🤔

[midnight turtle]

@me if youre answering my question

[violet nymph]

never mind

[jade badger]

@midnight turtle

ed + soulrend

[midnight turtle]

Never heard of those

ill research it

[worthy basalt]

soulrend is new

[jade badger]

essence drain is an old skill

soulrend is a new one

both are chaos degen

[worthy basalt]

and ed is like a huge dot that spreads through contagion

[midnight turtle]

is ED good for single target?

[worthy basalt]

yeah

[jade badger]

Not really

But thats why I use soulrend lmao

it helps

no contagion here

[worthy basalt]

soulrend with super slow projectiles might be a lot of fun too

[midnight turtle]

hmmmm, debate it

[limber spire]

no

[midnight turtle]

lmao

[jade badger]

it isnt lol

[valid bloom]

Fuck.

Rip slayer damage

[violet nymph]

patch notes don't really show if handcasting is good now gotta wait for an opportunity to just try the new support gems i guess

[leaden wraith]

^

[valid bloom]

Cant even do a shitty varunastra build anymore

[leaden wraith]

the support gems are going to be make or break on if handcasting is good

[stable dragon]

Hi, is there any way to read the patch notes? the official site is OFFLINE

[icy lake]

it's pretty easy to see how the supports help handcast tho? especially the seal one

[rare minnow]

Spark buffed, fork goes from less damage to MORE, looks like Spork is back on the menu xD

[violet nymph]

the official site is the current state of my brain

[icy lake]

the biggest issue with handcast is the limited opportunity to standstill and do damage safely

[jade badger]

^

[limber spire]

unleash is supposed to solve that

[jade badger]

What are my gems for soulrend

[olive vector]

@stable dragon Try reddit on the patchnotes thread, there's usually a bot that copies the patchnotes out.

[jade badger]

Same thing as ed but instead of void manip and swift affliction right

[icy lake]

waiting to see the actual gems before i decide, lol

[jade badger]

GMP + Faster proj

[icy lake]

donno what tags it have

[jade badger]

Its definitely a proj

[icy lake]

it looks like it has an aoe on pierce

but can't be sure

[stable dragon]

Okay. But is it correct? THERE IS NO WAY to read the patch notes at this time at all, whatsoever?

[jade badger]

uh

the patch notes are live

rn lmao

[limber spire]

site's down for maint

[stable dragon]

where?

[limber spire]

so check the subreddit

[frail mirage]

😄 😅

[jade badger]

oh lol

[olive vector]

@stable dragon Yeah it's accurate, it's literally a copy paste from the forum post by the bot.

[stable dragon]

is this copy paste currently readable?

[icy lake]

patch notes pastebin: https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[stable dragon]

thank you

[icy lake]

😄

oh

i copied my account and character name

kek

[jade badger]

pm time

[icy lake]

oh gawd

[jade badger]

Anyways, i THINK i got it right

https://pastebin.com/E2wEqkHv

Also is this tree fine

Wait no lmao

not that

lemme remove curse nodes, idk what to tak

Is it still worth it to take skill effect duration nodes

with ed and soulrend

[placid grotto]

this might be useful

[icy lake]

🤔 i wonder how soul rend interact with fork and chain

[jade badger]

oh shoot

[limber spire]

interesting how arctic breath got such a larger damage increase compared to cold snap

looks like i'll be using cwdt arctic breath

[icy lake]

not that many ppl used arctic breath xD

[limber spire]

i used it for a meme build

[jade badger]

Wait a minute

[limber spire]

worked out pretty well

[jade badger]

Patch notes said

ED will have area tag on it

aoe*

[icy lake]

yes

it does now

[jade badger]

So I can take AOE nodes on tree

[limber spire]

yes

increased aoe probably won't help that much though

doesn't look like ed's aoe is that big

[icy lake]

tl:dr ED will do 100% more damage next league compare to this league

[uncut vortex]

not the bv nerf

[placid grotto]

BV is fine tbh

[limber spire]

tl;dr slot in conc effect and do more damage

[round niche]

is storm brand still alright to lvl with?

[jade badger]

i mean yeah

[uncut vortex]

tl:dr arc nerf sadface

[icy lake]

storm brand damage at earlier levels are pretty much untouched

[jade badger]

https://pastebin.com/j8cGmHS9 @icy lake

Is this tree fine

[hollow talon]

Wew

New Inquisitor regen

[placid grotto]

BV's nerf is roughly the amount a perfect Atziri's Promise makes

[violet nymph]

storm brand will still be fine at least for leveling

BV nerf on lower levels is dumb tbh

[icy lake]

@jade badger personally i would have gone for withering presence

[cloud siren]

@placid grotto needs a alternate color between lines and good to go

[jade badger]

@icy lake Wait

Did I not take withering presence

Oh lmao

[violet nymph]

BV really didn't need to be nerfed at lower levels

[jade badger]

https://pastebin.com/ns7iTsuq

Fixed it now

[placid grotto]

not my spreadsheet unfortunately; requesting permission to modify though

[cloud siren]

if it's google sheets you can dupe it and modify

[placid grotto]

IIRC BV at lower levels still blended everything

I doubt the nerf will make much difference

bigger issue was mana sustain

[hollow talon]

I mean

[violet nymph]

it was good for killing bosses that was it

[steady rivet]

offline patch notes where?

[violet nymph]

other things it was like ok at

[hollow talon]

You can.make pretty much anything destroy lower levels by just having good items

[violet nymph]

https://pastebin.com/AyTXzmuk

[jade badger]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[placid grotto]

I went through with crappy items when I leveled with it

[steady rivet]

rjip eyes

[hollow talon]

Pastebin dark mode when

[placid grotto]

SSF rare/magic items

[hollow talon]

You don't need much

[violet nymph]

sure it's easy to level with, doesn't make it strong for leveling

[hollow talon]

Just +damage ring

[violet nymph]

because it's not that fast

[jade badger]

Best spellcaster leveling for me is Storm brand + bv

just use bv if your storm brand is currently at a boss

[violet nymph]

yeah

[jade badger]

Actually Shoot.

I need more mana.

I'm gonna be using both Zealotry

[wispy crest]

Is there a patch notes mirror ? Oficcial site down :/

[jade badger]

And Malevolence

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

@wispy crest

[frail mirage]

[wispy crest]

Ty

[frail mirage]

I need to remove watermelon it bothers me

[jade badger]

Anyways @icy lake

No need for wither totem now

Since I got withering presence right

Also guys help me

I wanna use both zealotry and malevolence

But i cant, my mana will be at 144

[limpid jacinth]

hopefully by sunday i can be lvl 60 min in synthesis

[jade badger]

need more to effectively spam soulrend

and ed

[icy lake]

@jade badger https://pastebin.com/pqwDQRgF is what i was thinking for passives

[violet nymph]

chaos damage xD

[jade badger]

@icy lake What about my life

what about my mana

[icy lake]

can pick up deep thought on top

[jade badger]

hm

[icy lake]

2 points for 28% mana

[jade badger]

but

I wanna run

discipline, grace, clarity

and zealotry + malevolence

[icy lake]

grace is pretty optional

[jade badger]

I imagine zealotry and malevolence reserving as much mana as act 3 auras

Huh? But wouldnt grace really help me

[icy lake]

35% evasion from tree?

meh

[jade badger]

but 10000 evasion is good right

[brave pulsar]

not by itself

[icy lake]

at 10k es you don't really even care for evasion stats

[jade badger]

oh lol

so I cut grace and put one of my auras there

[icy lake]

might even be able to fit aspect of spider in there

🤷 still donno the numbers yet

[jade badger]

Also I dont see myself taking spiritual aid yet

I heard minion increasing stuff will get nerfed

And I cant exactly take minion stuff on my bow

[late sage]

how does the new Ghost Reaver and Vaal Pact work together?

[limpid jacinth]

it already happened in time casting

[brave pulsar]

it doesn't

[limpid jacinth]

and bone helm is dead

[kindred prawn]

Pretty sure it was just Bone helm that got nerfed

[icy lake]

spiritual aid is just one more way to scale your dots

bone helm nerfed by half, sure

[limpid jacinth]

my zombies are intact feelsgood

[icy lake]

but you can put in a lab enchant now too

[jade badger]

What happened with bone helm lol

Also I think I'll stick to uh

[limpid jacinth]

it was reduced to regular %

[jade badger]

hubris circlet

oh lmao

[limpid jacinth]

you can literally enchant something else instead and be the same now

[halcyon veldt]

The Whispering Ice's Icestorm skill now has a 0.75 second cast time and a 6% chance to critically strike.

[icy lake]

also, i don't actually run zealot's oath on skill tree

[halcyon veldt]

man, self-cast icestorm seems pretty good

[rapid solar]

Are the patch notes anywhere besides the main page which is down? 😓

[icy lake]

i just use that zealot's oath flask

[limpid jacinth]

if synthesis brings minion damage implicit it'll be double so it wont change anything 🙏

[halcyon veldt]

@rapid solar i can drop them into a pastebin for you if you want

[jade badger]

Wait

is wither totem still needed

or no

[icy lake]

it'll help you stack to max faster

[jade badger]

But if I have no more space

[rapid solar]

That’d be nice 😃

[jade badger]

its not needed right

[icy lake]

[jade badger]

Cause I already have

withering presence lmao

[olive vector]

@rapid solar https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG @icy lake got your back.

[jade badger]

Wait can I cast flame dash with a bow lmao

[mellow sapphire]

Is there a mirror where I can see 3.6 patch notes? Official site is down

[jade badger]

I wanna proc arcane surge and vaal rf too

[icy lake]

you can flame dash with a bow

[jade badger]

cool

[icy lake]

you can flame dash with anything

[rapid solar]

Awesome, thanks!

[violet nymph]

I thought they'd do something interesting with corpses... but they only nerfed the gore left behind haha

[viscid willow]

How bad is the arc nerf really going to be? It didn't look that bad to me but everyone's freaking out about it so now it feels like my plan to do an arc trap league starter is a bad idea lol

[halcyon veldt]

arc won't jump between packs as easily anymore

[icy lake]

arc dps actually increases with cast speed buff, off screening nerfed but it's w/e tbh

[viscid willow]

Yeah that's what I figured

[icy lake]

25 range is still pretty much enough to hop around a full screen

[eager terrace]

well arc dps won't increase for arc traps

[icy lake]

well, it is the handcast league

[eager terrace]

yeah I'm just saying he said his arc trap league starter

so there is a dmg nerf there beyond the chain distance

not a massive one though

[icy lake]

i mean

[jade badger]

@icy lake

[icy lake]

damage wise

[jade badger]

Do I use blight

or na

actually nvm

i dont

lmao

[icy lake]

arc will still oneshot bosses

in traps or mines

[obsidian gate]

wait so they posted the patch notes and then took down the site?

[jade badger]

yes

[eager terrace]

the website is down because the game is down

or was anyway

[icy lake]

LeCrashToday at 10:42 PM
patch notes pastebin: https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[obsidian gate]

wouldnt they think to post them somewhere we could see them

[icy lake]

got you covered

[obsidian gate]

noice

[jade badger]

Also whats a good cwdt 4l setup

I never do them, just a 3l one

[copper kernel]

they were posted 4 hours ago

[jade badger]

An appropriately leveled stone golem for zealot's oath?

Like, level 5

Or do I make it level 20 and summon it myself

[icy lake]

i typically do chaos golem for es builds if i use any golems

[jade badger]

Chaos golem it is, and what level

To accomodate for cwdt?

Or max

[icy lake]

i usually just max it

[jade badger]

Ah kk, it does live right

[icy lake]

if it dies i don't bother to keep it up, lol

[jade badger]

oh

xd

[halcyon veldt]

i put golem(s) on cwdt

[violet nymph]

I don't find golems worth in most cases

[halcyon veldt]

that way i don't have to cast them again constantly

[icy lake]

the nodes leading to spiritual aid helps it survive for general mapping

[eager terrace]

golems just lead to me getting hit by unexpected shit most of the time

[obsidian gate]

cwdt chaos golem sounds like a good idea, i usualy have like 99% mana reserve and it costs too much

[jade badger]

But it isnt my main thing, its just an extra spot I could use for CWDT

[violet nymph]

golems die too fast and can get you killed so imo they are oof

[copper kernel]

golems are not worth it

[jade badger]

Yeah but what do I put in that extra spot

[eager terrace]

I like CWDT, inc dur, imm call and enfeeble

[icy lake]

vortex? lol

[jade badger]

I cant use weapon links since its occupied by another 6l

[obsidian gate]

5% less damage seems good

[icy lake]

for free chill

[jade badger]

huh

[icy lake]

or cold snap actually

[violet nymph]

I usually do a curse, but you might already have that somewhere else?

[icy lake]

cwdt cold snap for chill and frenzy charge

[jade badger]

So

CWDT 1
Immortal call 3
increased duration (obv)

and a level 4 vortex

[icy lake]

vortex or cold snap, yep

[jade badger]

Or should CWDT be higher

for vortex effectiveness

[icy lake]

eh

[violet nymph]

don't level CwDT

[icy lake]

don't

it's just there for chilling ground

[jade badger]

hm, kk

[violet nymph]

i always did cwdt-blood rage-ic-duration for that sweet, sweet arakaali proc

[jade badger]

I just see some builds use level 5, 10

[eager terrace]

prob not worth unless you actually build end charges

[violet nymph]

only time I level CwDT is if I use multiple ones

[jade badger]

So I'm a lil confused

[eager terrace]

and want to not have imm call eat them as often

[jade badger]

that why doesnt everyone stick to lvl 1

and go level 5 or even 10

[icy lake]

ppl don't want IC to eat endurance charge too often

[violet nymph]

yeah it triggers more often at lower levels so no reason to level it

[icy lake]

especially with high regen builds that out regen small damage

[jade badger]

But I'm sure my immortal call is just to tank porcupine shots right

cause its p short despite with increased duration

[icy lake]

i've had a build that had CWDT on lvl 20, lol

[violet nymph]

sure, sometimes you will

[icy lake]

because 10k life and 15% regen with endurance charges up

chieftain

so all the small hits are invalidated by the regen anyways

i've accidentally left that character up in a red map overnight before

and woke up with 10 mobs hitting him, lol

[jade badger]

wtf

how hot was your pc

and how loud was your fan

[next epoch]

10 monsters gently massaging your chieftain

[icy lake]

meh, desktop so it was okay

i think i was at 20%+ regen at that point, lol

[jade badger]

Do I actually need the skill effect duration nodes

[icy lake]

i think they are nice to have but not mandatory for ED/soul rend

[next epoch]

depends on if your primary skill uses duration

[jade badger]

Its dot

Oh, so I can take em off

Cause I can easily get spiritual aid

And the lord of the dead

[icy lake]

yea

[uncut vortex]

Whats the maintenance for

[next epoch]

skill effect duration is 🔥 for skills like WO and BV which have to be recast

[icy lake]

the only times i get skill effect duration is with poison or skills like WO/BV

where stacks matters

if for some reason you did poison stacking on top of ED...

i mean, it was done before

[midnight phoenix]

Then skill effect duration wouldnt do anything beyond making the ED dot last longer

[jade badger]

And I can easily recast it right

[icy lake]

it would make soul rend offscreen further, lol

[midnight phoenix]

Cos skill effect duration doesnt do anything for poison

[jade badger]

what about dot

[icy lake]

skill effect duration does affect poison to let you stack higher stacks, last i checked

[jade badger]

1. +1 gem alt spam (1 prefix, 0 suffix)
2. Regal and hit suffix (1 prefix, 1 suffix)
3. craft multimod (1 prefix, 2 suffix)
4. craft +2 support gems (2 prefix, 2 suffix)
5. craft % more damage over time (3 prefix, 2 suffix)
6. craft % chaos damage (3 prefix, 3 suffix)

If hit prefix at 2.
3. Annual the non +1 prefix(1 prefix, 0 suffix)
4. continue from 3 to 6 from above
5. craft w/e suffix with the open suffix

I'll just keep note

of what ya said

[midnight phoenix]

Most generic dots will be affected by skill duration because they uusually have a duration

You checked wrong sir

[jade badger]

So

[rugged locust]

only ones I can think of that don't are RF and death's oath

[jade badger]

get skill duration

or na

[icy lake]

you won't really need it

at least not ED

[midnight phoenix]

The only skill that u can use skill duration to affect poison is viperstrike

[icy lake]

looks like the change was 3.0

haven't played a poison build since the double dipping nerf

[ionic idol]

any way to read notes while site is down

[icy lake]

LeCrashToday at 10:42 PM
patch notes pastebin: https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[ionic idol]

pastebin down too damn

[icy lake]

oh

now i feel bad

[ionic idol]

np LOL

[icy lake]

:<

[ionic idol]

it was a good try

[icy lake]

i killed pastebin with that paste

rip

refresh the page a few times

and it still loads

[wet plaza]

No POB pastes and no notes

[icy lake]

just loaded for me

[jade badger]

@icy lake

Whats better

% more damage over time

or non ailment converted to chaos

[teal axle]

non ailment converted to chaos?

[icy lake]

err...

yea

[teal axle]

not sure what that stat is

[icy lake]

what's that 2nd one, lol

[jade badger]

You said craft % more dot for a prefix lel

I think you meant the non ailment one

[icy lake]

i mean, yea

[teal axle]

yes

[icy lake]

it's % more non ailment chaos damage

[teal axle]

non ailment damage over time / chaos damage over time

[jade badger]

hm

[icy lake]

didn't think it would cause any confusion because there shouldn't be other % more damage overtime mod... unless it's the cold one, lol

[jade badger]

eh..

just wanted to know

srry lel

[icy lake]

i get lazy typing stuff out sometimes

[jade badger]

[uncut warren]

Trickster ascend + Fox's Fortune + CI = perma Enemies are unlucky hitting you LOL

And a lot of ES

• If the 1500 evasion it adds on full life also counts to ES

Thats more

[icy lake]

if it is added to the body armour and not to global

[uncut warren]

It will count 3500/6

[cloud siren]

site back up?

[uncut warren]

Wich 2000/6 is already more than enough for any ES build

[topaz loom]

how is the site down right now when I woke up to read patch notes

someone tell me how dead is my poet pen build

[icy lake]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[cloud siren]

likelu very dead

[icy lake]

not very dead

just need 0.125 attack now

which is basically 20/20 20% faster attacks, 20% qual GMP/LMP and a few attack speed investment here and there

[uncut warren]

@icy lake So we have a 3500 EV + 583 ES Chest with perma enemies are unluck hitting you with CI

[icy lake]

yea, should be fun

[uncut vortex]

So you are telling me

Theres nothing on melee

[topaz loom]

alot of stuff got legacy version or not much?

[jade badger]

Lmao

how much is presence of chayula

[icy lake]

nothing on melee because they told us that's 3.7

[jade badger]

in a league start

I just realized I'm 9,7k es cause of that

[icy lake]

🤷

[jade badger]

well

its definitely expensive

[olive vector]

@jade badger If you really want to know, have a peek at poeninja, should be able to tell from the history.

[icy lake]

well, you don't really need it for stun immunity as either occultist or trickster now

[jade badger]

@olive vector thing is

poe.ninja doesnt have betrayal and hc betrayal anymore

Its on standard, and most are legacy items

but lemme try

[violet nymph]

@uncut warren the +1500 es is global not local to the chest so it won't count

[jade badger]

atleast an ex lmao

[cobalt cloud]

WHY IS SITE DOWN WHEN PATCHNOTES ARE UP T_T

[icy lake]

something like this works just fine in place of a chayula

[cobalt cloud]

Worst Possible Thing EVER

[jade badger]

o

[olive vector]

@jade badger Sec lemme check, I rmb they kept multiple leagues of data. Line is a little laggy here so gimme a sec.

[violet nymph]

use these notes https://pastebin.com/AyTXzmuk

[uncut warren]

@violet nymph Still strong

[jade badger]

ty

[topaz loom]

why none copy paste them in a file to post somewhere here 😦

[violet nymph]

yeah it's still good

[cobalt cloud]

ty

[icy lake]

think i got that ammy for like 20c

and crafted % es on it

lol

[jade badger]

also uh

no skill duration needed right

[uncut warren]

@icy lake Said it counted towards the chest

[cobalt cloud]

Volatile dead got smacked a little

[jade badger]

better invested in something like..

uhh

[icy lake]

err

i didn't

[jade badger]

more c damage

[uncut warren]

LeCrashHoje às 02:29
if it is added to the body armour and not to global

[icy lake]

IF it is added to the body armour

IF

[uncut warren]

You sounded pretty confident

[jade badger]

@icy lake Which is better lel, more aoe dps

Or chaos dps

[icy lake]

any time someone says IF it means they are not sure? or do i not understand english well enough lel

[jade badger]

Cause afaik, I dont think soulrend has aoe tag

[cobalt cloud]

I wonder how volatile dead will interact with leech?

[icy lake]

then probably chaos dps or generic spell damage

[jade badger]

Either i deal less dps but have it added to both spells

Or deal more dps on ed but less on soulrend

[icy lake]

the way i look at it

soul rend will have enough damage to clear without consider every chaos/spell nodes we can reasonably get

so putting points into stuff that buff ED after that point is fine for bosses

[jade badger]

Oh, kk.

Also taking retribution is fine

even though i have no spiritual aid rite

[icy lake]

it's a solid node

but having spiritual aid means all those stats are good for you

[cobalt cloud]

When does new league drop?

[jade badger]

march 9

[topaz loom]

volatile dead / unearth , pathfinder , poet pen , zerphis build still works or no way in hell?

[jade badger]

I have to take out nodes that decrease my es by 198

[icy lake]

based on PoB as the way it is right now

[jade badger]

And the one with 10% faster es recharge

To get retribution and amplify

[icy lake]

getting to spiritual aid give you 14% more damage

[jade badger]

eh

I think 'm fine without it

[icy lake]

🤷

[jade badger]

just looking for amplification

https://pastebin.com/yLKUUdv1 What I'm talking about

I think I got it right 😄

[urban sphinx]

so like

patch notes arrived finally

i open the site

i get

pathofexile.com is currently down for maintenance. Please try again later.

T_T

[icy lake]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG pastebin

for patchnote

[urban sphinx]

oh, thanks

[eager terrace]

yeah the site when down when the game servers restarted and never came back

[olive vector]

@jade badger Okay, can't help file is too big for me. But if you head to poeninja, left navigation has "data dump" all previous league data is there. Download it, import it into a google drive spreadsheet and you can search through it.

[jade badger]

@icy lake what u think

@olive vector aight, ty

All I know is its 1 exalt x 50

cause people will all probably play occultist as their league starter

[violet nymph]

i like how there's this one random attack skill buff in the patch notes.

and its still garbagio

[jade badger]

Wait whats better

non ailment as chaos

or

gain #% of non chaos damage

as chaos

[violet nymph]

website down for everyone? can't read the patch notes 😦

nvm

[eager terrace]

what has non-ailment damage as chaos

[halcyon spoke]

@violet nymph https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[jade badger]

I'm just ocnfused

[eager terrace]

I don't think I've ever seen that affix

[jade badger]

Which is better, #% as non ailment as extra chaos

Or #% of non chaos damage as extra chaos

Its a crafted mod

[topaz loom]

anyone can explain what they did to poet pens? you can't use 2 anymore or won't trigger the spells in both or what?

[eager terrace]

it only triggers the skills in whichever hand was used

[icy lake]

% of non chaos damage as extra chaos don't affect dots

[eager terrace]

so like if you are using frenzy to trigger

frenzy alternates hands

[jade badger]

but it gives the same thing

as extra chaos for non ailment

[icy lake]

no it is not

[topaz loom]

using frenzy

so it's fine or nah

[violet nymph]

unearth vd will probably still be amazing lol

[eager terrace]

it's half as good

[topaz loom]

is it ?

so I need more attack speed?

alot more?

[jade badger]

So wait

Method to the madness nodes

[topaz loom]

can be reached?

[jade badger]

Are bad?

[eager terrace]

I mean it's just hugely nerfed tbh

[jade badger]

They provide increased chaos damage

And non ailment

[eager terrace]

you can't trigger both hands with one action

[jade badger]

But the increased is greater

[hollow sierra]

Poe site down, just woke up, where I can find patch notes?

[icy lake]

% extra chaos none-ailment damage over time = affects dots
% non-chaos damage as chaos = affect initial hits only

[topaz loom]

so it's like the same build with double the attack speed?

[jade badger]

What about #% increased chaos

[icy lake]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

^ patch notes

% increased chaos damage will affect both initial hit and dots unless it specifically says "with hits"

[jade badger]

ah kk

i really hope

that soulrend doesnt end up as lancing steel did

[topaz loom]

til now ppl used PP with like 4.0 ish attack speed now you need like 8.0 to reach that cap of skipping casts?

or be as good as before?

[icy lake]

pretty much?

assuming you are talking poet's pen

[eager terrace]

I guess? it depends on what is socketed

[topaz loom]

yea

[sacred mural]

gl getting 8 aps on a hiero lmao

[topaz loom]

ofc , volatile dead , unearth , bodyswap version of the build

[jade badger]

wait wtf

Soul strike has 40% less es recharge

[urban sphinx]

is anyone going to be mad because of this

Path of Exile no longer supports the Windows XP or Windows Vista operating systems.

[jade badger]

Would this significantly affect me

[icy lake]

it really don't matter

[jade badger]

Nah, like almost nobody uses those os

Can you even run poe properly on them, like fps wise

[icy lake]

without a lot of other passives

[urban sphinx]

probably not

[halcyon veldt]

of course you can

it definitely affects some people

particularly the windows vista part i'm guessing

[jade badger]

@icy lake ah kk

Eh, they gotta up it now

I'm sure they're greeted with a free up to windows 10

like i have

[halcyon veldt]

does poe run on linux yet?

[icy lake]

my occultist has 8k+ es and like 3.5k recharge speed, with like 100% faster recharge start

[jade badger]

How do you check recharge speed

[urban sphinx]

Zana's model has been updated.

gg

[icy lake]

and this is with some piss poor es gear, lol

[halcyon veldt]

@urban sphinx they probably ruined her

i remember back when they originally changed nessa's voice

completely ruined it!

[urban sphinx]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eager terrace]

they showed off her model already

[midnight phoenix]

I dont mind new za

[eager terrace]

I thought it was kinda weird

[midnight phoenix]

Zana

[eager terrace]

she has like see through lace pants

[midnight phoenix]

Its very torchlight

[urban sphinx]

sexy

zana does hit me like a fitness girl

that loves to show her body

[icy lake]

@jade badger it is listed in game, but i'm not sure where on pob to see that, lol

[jade badger]

@icy lake kk, i'll go over it later then. How do I level up this bby tho

Just play Contagion and ED + Soulrend

hybrid with es and life?

[icy lake]

hybrid > CI > LL if you got a shavs

[eager terrace]

now she'll be out there fighting elder with a wicked breeze

live your life I guess

[icy lake]

it's okay, because magic

[jade badger]

I really hope

my ED an soulrend dps

LOL

WILL NOT SUCK*

[topaz loom]

how high can you get your Attack speed on a Poet pen build with pathfinder?

[jade badger]

fookinh ell

[icy lake]

well, it's not gona look like the biggest numbers on pob or w/e

but for dot builds

[jade badger]

174K on dot is alot? Cause I see some with 500k

[icy lake]

~500k dps is enough for end game comfortably

[jade badger]

700k

Yikes

So mine is severely lacking

[icy lake]

well, that number is basically the base

without lvl 21 gem and lvl 4 empower

and before ED buff

[jade badger]

And malevolence and zealotry

[vestal glade]

gg shallow farming

[halcyon veldt]

they should've just adjusted the curve significantly

[vestal glade]

im fine with it tbh

[halcyon veldt]

where you get A LOT more fossils in higher delves

[eager terrace]

do we need a lot more fossils

delve seems... pretty good as is

for high delves

[tender tusk]

wdym by more fossils?

like types of fossils?

[onyx trench]

Is the side down ?

[vestal glade]

yea im definitely doing a delve build this patch

ez money

also yes

[fallow latch]

Did anyone copy pasta the patch notes?

[icy lake]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[sand rover]

@icy lake Thank you!

[uncut vortex]

It makes me sad

To see arc nerf

[fallow latch]

@icy lake Oh I love you

[obsidian gate]

will the passive changes be there when the servers go up

[native sonnet]

after this - no, after friday's patch yes

[obsidian gate]

thanks

[brittle bridge]

why are the servers down the moment i can finally read the patch notes AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[spare talon]

https://pastebin.com/hwL9543m

[timid mango]

lmao I read the patchnotes then opened my standard and divined my loreweave to 80 res

[brittle bridge]

thank

[arctic echo]

RIP Arc ?!

[languid path]

no u

[spare talon]

after this patch the website will be separated no? I think Chris said that in the recent Baeclast

[timid mango]

wait for real?

that's the biggest buff then

[violet nymph]

arc/bv rip

[timid mango]

also ice nova nerfs

[jade badger]

@icy lake

I think I uh

Forgot to enable shaper DPS

[worldly scaffold]

site doesnt load

[jade badger]

On that build

[worldly scaffold]

what is kill?

[icy lake]

it'll be fineee, lol

[jade badger]

There's a pastebin

With all patchnotes in it

[icy lake]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG <-- patch notes

[jade badger]

That one

[lone parrot]

Is the website down?

I cant even take a look at the patch

[novel oriole]

how long will poe be down for?

[dusty cove]

just me or do ice traps look good? :X

[icy lake]

it did get buffed to hell, lol

[jade badger]

Ek, lightning trap

[pliant ravine]

Forever

[jade badger]

Ed and soulrend

Death oath, others

All look good

[spiral cloak]

i bet that messed something up on the patch notes

and they are revising

[icy lake]

it is more than likely the site is downed due to everyone rushing to it

it's basically DDoS

lol

[flat flare]

patch notes don't look that revolutionary imo, some number changes mostly

[pliant ravine]

I thought they were extensive

[dusty cove]

chris said there would be some downtime to make consol peons able to login to the site with their accounts

[halcyon veldt]

only took them like 5 years

[pliant ravine]

Yea now that avic thinks were all meph they need to link em

That skitzo mf

[icy lake]

hell, pastebin wasn't even working when i linked the paste bin of patch notes earlier

[halcyon veldt]

just pick one of the million alternatives of pastebin then

[dusty cove]

Chain Support

Now causes supported skills to deal 30% less damage at gem level 1 (from 50%), up to 11% less damage at gem level 20 (from 31%)

[steady rivet]

how do skills get crit?

[dusty cove]

brb getting some lotion

[icy lake]

back to sporks

[steady rivet]

If spells have 0% crit

[icy lake]

they don't

[steady rivet]

0% increased is 0%

[mental apex]

I think it's funny how pierce gets more damage while chain gets less damage 😭

[steady rivet]

So how do you GET crit?

wtf

[pliant ravine]

Base crit

[steady rivet]

do you have to OoS with ICC?

[icy lake]

spells have base crit chance on the gem

[steady rivet]

oh

[pliant ravine]

Derp weapons too

[icy lake]

between 5 to 6%

usually

[dusty cove]

Fork Support

Now causes supported skills to deal 10% less damage at gem level 1 (from 30%), up to 9% more damage at gem level 20 (from 11% less). 😮

[flat flare]

arctic breth buff looks op

[limpid wigeon]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG

[flat flare]

will be arc of 3.6

[limpid wigeon]

pretty yucko format but eh

[topaz loom]

because of the patchnotes poe trade is down ?

[steady rivet]

so fireball will still be at 6% crit?

[pliant ravine]

If thats wit it says

[mental apex]

Any idea when PoB will get updated?

[hollow mason]

https://pastebin.com/zmYfgJjG patchnotes

[icy lake]

https://github.com/PoESkillTree/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/3.0.0-alpha.1 seems to have the new passive tree

[hollow mason]

No points to make crit fireball build

except PC and servers lagging due to ignite calculations

[worldly scaffold]

this truly is path of nerfs

lol

[hollow mason]

flameblast, whyyyyy

well, really, why they nerfed flameblast

[worldly scaffold]

side effect of rebalancing spells

[hollow mason]

flameblast getting any good supports?

[worldly scaffold]

probably a mistake or all the spells have to be in a certain ratio between avg damage/cast per second

[hollow mason]

diff ratio

[icy lake]

but i suspect pizza tosser is back tho

sure slightly more mana cost, but the damage

[hollow mason]

1780 freezepulse, 1860 fireball, 576 storm burst

slightly diff ratio

[icy lake]

well, how those skills function is pretty different

fork fireballs tho

[hollow mason]

1318 EK base dps

[icy lake]

EK ring of blade traps 🤔

[hollow mason]

u will lose castspeed

base dps calculations included castspeed

[icy lake]

tbh EK looks like a perfect spell to put in traps now

[hollow mason]

856 base EK damage for traps

[icy lake]

per trap tho

[storm trellis]

Scourge arrow is now a chaos gem, is this nerf in any way?

[icy lake]

i don't think so

[hollow mason]

still garbo single target, i bet

scourge arrow got buffed

[storm trellis]

With that channeling node?

[hollow mason]

with chaos tag

[storm trellis]

Ah i see

[icy lake]

you say that, but traps are pretty notorious when it comes to turn shit single target skills into instant-phasers

[violet nymph]

anyone excited to try a projectile spell-based build on deadeye?

[icy lake]

i thought about that, but then i stopped, lol

[hollow mason]

thats true, but, i wouldnt say anything about EK traps due to mechanic. Need tests to check

[gaunt loom]

bye arrow

arc*

[icy lake]

chain buffs means you don't really need to use deadeye for chain anymore

[spare talon]

Storm Brand 22% damage nerf PepeHands

[violet nymph]

of all the ranger ascendancies i've been theorycrafting, deadeye is the only one with no useless attack speed left over if you want to do spell based builds (although you might have a useless 200 accuracy -_-")

[spare talon]

what do I play now

[hollow mason]

melee, i guess

[languid path]

storm brand

[icy lake]

and stormbrand is still gona be fine, lol

[gaunt loom]

dem discharge buffs

[icy lake]

it didn't get it's activation speed touched

[languid path]

oh no now I do 800k dmg instead of 1mil dmg

what do I do

[icy lake]

^

[hollow mason]

storm brands are nerfed hard, we shall play melee or autoattack now

[icy lake]

lol i actually thought about self cast discharge builds

[spare talon]

Cleave or Reave maybe, I was melee last league

[hollow mason]

selfcast discharge guardian

[icy lake]

with the unleash support

[spare talon]

looking for someting strong not for farming yellow maps and delve 100

[icy lake]

basically a tactical nuke button, lol

[gaunt loom]

cleave and ground slam up to 40 target insteadof 20