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[past hearth]

bv got nerfed cause it's too strong

[random glade]

But Arc is dead

So you know

[limpid current]

arc isnt dead

[pseudo snow]

so... BV got hit pretty hard. WO was barely touched and ice spear got a decent buff, so WO cwc ice spear still gonna be sexy single target

[past hearth]

arc got chain support lmao

[ember hill]

"dead"

[random glade]

Well

[violet nymph]

i said winter orb, brands, arc, and bv would all get nerfed and i was right

[limpid current]

just balanced

[coarse grove]

but more cus its meta

[random glade]

"Dead"

[violet nymph]

But for real, you can't leech from DoT correct?

also arc isn't dead lmao

[limpid current]

no

leech is for hits

[violet nymph]

now it can't clear entire maps per cast lol

[coarse grove]

brands lasted 1 league rip

[violet nymph]

You know what did get nerfed, ice nova 😆

[magic blade]

Divine Ire trickster project is a GO

Operation_Vegeta_Cosplay is still in effect

[random glade]

Exactly, it isn't horribly broken OP, so it's dead

[ember hill]

dude brands barely got nerfed

[random glade]

Tha'ts how reddit works

[coarse grove]

yall see shockwave buffs

[violet nymph]

shock nova got like 30% damage buff though lmao

[random glade]

Also brands are still fine

[limpid current]

reddit can go to hell

[pseudo snow]

the nerfs have been really mild actually

[past obsidian]

Storm brand is still good

[limpid current]

as far as im concerned

[violet nymph]

Shock nova got way more then 30%

[past obsidian]

Arma brand is kinda nerfed though

[pseudo snow]

tell ya what though fireball is looking good this league

[violet nymph]

fireball looks insane

[past hearth]

fireball has been sleeper for awhile

[violet nymph]

Firestorm got nerfed wth?

[iron violet]

vaal DD is looking amazing

[magic blade]

if my initial build is shit, i'm doing VFB trickster

[limpid current]

fireball looks pog

[random glade]

You know what I'm actually looking forward to? Fucking Flame Surge being playable again

[violet nymph]

too bad it can't really do singletarget

[ivory lark]

arc is pretty rip now tho with that half range

[past hearth]

flame surge single target setup

[stable axle]

Jesus ed got quite the damage increase

[violet nymph]

FLAME SURGE GOT BUFFED BY THE WAY.

[random glade]

+9 length at max level

[iron violet]

@violet nymph firestorm did not get nerfed

[random glade]

Hell yeah

[sly kite]

Is self casting really gonna be more viable than totem/trap/mines?

[limpid jacinth]

firestorm got buffed

[violet nymph]

i ALREADY had a build ready for flamesurge/fireball

[forest glacier]

Yes. But actually no @sly kite

[limpid current]

the ed and decay buffs will just about cut the uber elder bossing time by quite a bit

[violet nymph]

@iron violet two casts of firestorm do not do damage to the same target, cast speed is useless

[sacred mural]

selfcast will probably be on par with trap/totem/mine now, maybe a bit better

[ivory lark]

just gotta wait for lvl 20 gems

[pseudo snow]

fireball ignite trickster might have to be my starter. can't really go wrong with that

[violet nymph]

unleash alone makes selfcast viable

[oak knoll]

cremation buffs tho

[limpid jacinth]

the damage barely got reduced by 2

[violet nymph]

is there even a build for marauder or slayer ascendancies in 3.6 that isnt just straight out nerfed or feels bad to play???????

[coarse grove]

omg unleash sounds amazing

[limpid jacinth]

cast speed is great for firestorm since its so slow

[violet nymph]

intensify is why firestorm got changed, because intensify will make firestorm do insane damage

[forest glacier]

@violet nymphrf

[coarse grove]

i wonder how fast u get "seals"

[limpid current]

tectonic slam and lolten strike are the only survivors

[untold magnet]

Ms ds and rf still strong

[placid grotto]

didn't GGG say Elemental Equilibrium would be changed?

[past hearth]

yes

[placid grotto]

I don't see anything about it in the notes

[random glade]

Guess it didn't make it in

[violet nymph]

T.T

[stable axle]

Fuck yeah, ed it is

[ivory lark]

tectonic has really shit dps tho

[forest glacier]

Everything lost crit so that is how it changex

[stable axle]

Dps curse buffs

[limpid jacinth]

why does avatar of fire still exist

[violet nymph]

Two casts of fire storm do not do damage to the same target, cast speed helps for clearing, slightly

time to go to the darkside and play righteous fire then

[quaint spear]

Still no visual “corpse” change for Cremation. Rip tarkecat’s mental health

[wary minnow]

I think it didn't make it in, and I think part of the reason is they want to see if it will still be so dominant when people actually handcast

[violet nymph]

KB is still dead, so sad about that

[burnt bramble]

Jesus Pen got the axe

[limpid current]

clear was already good but the bossing will be stupid good on ed now

[untold magnet]

Avatar of fire is dank

[past obsidian]

@ivory lark I tried boss killing with tectonic, wasn't nice

[limpid jacinth]

thought they would merge it with something else

[ocean stag]

what is the best way to play EK now? Handcast or mine/trap?

[random glade]

Yes.

[past hearth]

still coc

[stone belfry]

guys frost bomb question

[wary minnow]

EK + Fork on totems :^]

[stone belfry]

is that a buff or nerf?

[untold magnet]

Self cast nova probaly again

[burnt bramble]

Hmm I might go Trickster this league

[limpid current]

coc and discharge are still meta

[violet nymph]

Death's Oath Blight CwC Dark Pact Hybrid MoM Phase Acro Trickster is finally a viable an OP meme build guys

[limpid current]

and extremely so

[stone belfry]

CoC and discharge: still require damn vagan

[burnt bramble]

And find something that works with that ascendancy

[past hearth]

discharge got huge numbers

[ivory lark]

death's oath with spreading rot being dead lul

[restive stream]

did someone say something about nerfing hideout griefing?????

[ocean stag]

EK is my fav skill

[limpid jacinth]

if we get restarted trees im getting all the es on my guardian

[restive stream]

i cant find in patch notes

[wary minnow]

I'm probably still gonna go Occultist and take double defensive curses and the chaos dot aura, EB/MoM Soulrend

[past hearth]

search for gibs

[zealous prairie]

fork buffs dmg now instead of reducing what

[wary minnow]

something about profane bloom + soulrend just sounds so satisfying

[past obsidian]

Oh man I love this node

[limpid current]

the es leech nodes are so goddamn lit

[coarse grove]

@wary minnow mah man my league starter plan 😄

[quaint spear]

@stone belfry how come it needs vagan?

[past hearth]

shattering steel gets huge buff

[limpid current]

they provide so much besides the leech alone

[past obsidian]

@limpid current My build is taking the one near the shadow side

[stone belfry]

@quaint spear hits can't be evaded

[eager terrace]

the shadow starting area changes kind of suck ass

[placid moth]

k arc got nuked 😦 gogin melee

[past obsidian]

But now my pathing is awkward as fuck

[violet nymph]

Wait is new tree live?

[eager terrace]

it takes like 2 extra points to get out of shadow start

[wary minnow]

@coarse grove as long as the single target isn't poopoo garbage

[violet nymph]

is PoB updated already?

[limpid current]

arc isnt nerfed

[wary minnow]

if the gem comes out and the single target is butt then we're probably going generic totem hierophant

[random glade]

Oh shit there's a second ES shield wheel I missed at Shadow

[ivory lark]

dunno what build you can do with consecrated ground

[coarse grove]

@wary minnow i really want to know if its gonno be more hit base dmg or dot base dmg

[magic blade]

holy fuck

[past obsidian]

@eager terrace Just skip the right side life nodes, go through the ES leech ones

[magic blade]

i cant handle this

New Poe patch and new Dota hero

[pseudo snow]

"Enchantments (such as those found from the Labyrinth) now have their own mod slot on items. They no longer use the Implicit mod slot." hnnnngh. time to enchant some bone helmets boys

[magic blade]

fuck my life

[limpid current]

im looking forward to very high es numbers this league

[eager terrace]

I still need trap wheel

[quaint spear]

@stone belfry can’t u just take lyco?

[past obsidian]

Wait what new dota hero

[stone belfry]

You can

[eager terrace]

so I have to get over there

[violet nymph]

Guys is Path of Building updated with new tree?

[stone belfry]

you probably don't want to

[wary minnow]

@coarse grove my instinct is it doesn't hit at all, or if it does it'll be like ED more

[stone belfry]

and if you use a 2H shaper Katana

then you can't

[coarse grove]

@wary minnow also i want to use it with veild mod cast socketed spell when u use a skill and ED

[limpid current]

i think the new tree changes already guaranteed something around 3k-4k increase at the top end maybe

[halcyon veldt]

We get IKEA furniture now?!

[stone belfry]

Also the loreweave nerf

RIIIIIIIIIIP

[wary minnow]

that's interesting, I was planning to use that mod as well but use it to apply despair as a third curse with malediction 😃

[past obsidian]

@stone belfry It's justified

Change my mind

[teal axle]

Spark or new storm burst 🤔

[iron violet]

so excite bike to do a firestorm build

[stone belfry]

What ever happened to aspirational items 😦

[past obsidian]

@teal axle You can do both tbh

[limpid current]

what aspirational

[past hearth]

ncie staff block nodes not

[fathom nymph]

Will spark be able to boss kill in maps

[limpid current]

any rando with 60 rings can get one

[past obsidian]

@fathom nymph Arsenal boss no

[stone belfry]

Sure, but then you gotta divine it

[past obsidian]

Arsenal boss floats so you can't hit it

[wary minnow]

I was thinking about just dedicating a slot to an ED single target setup, or maybe using a staff if those nodes are good 👀

[limpid current]

it isnt like divines are that uncommon either

[coarse grove]

@wary minnow i kinda banking on soulrend hiting cus i plan on using the socketed gem ring curse on hit unique with despair

FOR EXPLOSIONS

[pseudo snow]

okay. why the fuck did they gut divination scarabs. were they actually good? did I miss a trick last league?

[eager terrace]

yeah I dunno these shadow changes feel bad for sabo

[limpid jacinth]

damn they litterally scream use trickster in the tree

[past obsidian]

@eager terrace I agree

[hollow mason]

The only one changes to EK and freezepulse I expected: projectiles travel up on cliffs and doors wont prevent projs to hit.

[limpid current]

soulrend hit will basically keep you topped up for ES

[wary minnow]

I think my plan is to use it with unleash and just cast and then run through and they'll blow up with blasphemy auras

[strange marsh]

would legacy loreweave be worth anything

[limpid jacinth]

wait forget it witch got more es

[limpid current]

certainly

[brave pulsar]

sure if you pre-divine it above 78

[past hearth]

also HA they added phy conversion to the tree

[marble quest]

probably

[burnt bramble]

You are now less likely to find fossils at depths shallower than 58, and more likely to find fossils at deeper depths.
^ well then

[marble quest]

you should get to rolling now yeah

otherwise you're gonna be fucked

[strange marsh]

i have a few days right

[limpid current]

I collected a few through fortuitous circumstance

[fathom nymph]

Scourge arrow or spark. 2 days to decide

[past hearth]

they making delve slightly easier to access

[brave pulsar]

and maybe tombfists if you had any 2-socket ones

[wary minnow]

divine prices are gonna jump up for this purpose

[south gull]

E K INQUISITOR META

[stone belfry]

@fathom nymph don't you need GFG abyssals for scourge arrow?

[past hearth]

...again!

[coarse grove]

@wary minnow i dont want to rely on blashpemy to explode tbh thats why banking on curse on hit

[worthy basalt]

yesterday decided to divine and link a loreweave expecting nerfs

glad I got lucky

[south gull]

i miss EK fuck yeah

im glad i got fucking lucky with my helm

[limpid current]

blasphemy will suck for curse auras anyway

[wary minnow]

yeah @coarse grove but that's why I'm saying my playstyle will make it so it doesn't matter

[limpid current]

why not just get zealotry and malevolence both

[brave pulsar]

yeah I was wondering why they'd let it stack

[coarse grove]

@wary minnow my biggest issue is fitting 2x blashpemy, malviolence and discipline :x

[limpid current]

those are again solid damaging buffs for chaos dot

[wary minnow]

because you will run through the mobs as they get hit

[pseudo snow]

"Death's Oath's Death's Aura skill now deals 25% more damage per second." oh damn. it was already pretty good

[coarse grove]

^^ i get that

[limpid jacinth]

blasphemy got killed by bane

[wary minnow]

I won't run discipline

[stone belfry]

errr, bane you have to cast

[coarse grove]

@limpid jacinth no it didnt?

[vast berry]

huh

[stone belfry]

blasphemy just works

[vast berry]

why the tombfist nerf?

[south gull]

because it was obscenely good

[past hearth]

because they are bis

[limpid current]

i think a synthed shield

[past obsidian]

Because everyone used it?

[south gull]

now its slightly less obscenely good

[limpid jacinth]

you can just use bane and do mutliple curses without reserving mana

[limpid current]

to reduce reservation

[wary minnow]

I'll probably either use heretics veil or the betrayal helmet (which is what I did for this league before going CI on cold dot occultist)

[stone belfry]

sure, but you have to cast bane

[vast berry]

o

[limpid current]

for either zealotry or malevolence

[past obsidian]

Like come on when was the last time you made a melee build without tombfist

[violet nymph]

when they will let us download patch, my internet slow af

[strange marsh]

for bane is the 2 defensive curse + despair best setup

[limpid jacinth]

yes

[vast berry]

didnt realize it was so common

[limpid jacinth]

that's what ggg wants

with their self casting league

[coarse grove]

@limpid current yeah that would be ideal, but we dont know how rare spesific synth items will be

[wary minnow]

doesn't mean it's going to be the best way to do it

[limpid current]

they said the best mods will be very rare

[wary minnow]

the whole point of doing it the way I'm planning to is because it's click one button and run through the map

[limpid current]

and require specifics

but curse reservation

probably not

[past hearth]

that means you wont see them this league most likely

[limpid current]

they should be middling common

[wary minnow]

as opposed to having to manually curse everything in the map so it blows up with profane bloom

[past obsidian]

I'm still debating on whether to get Pious Path on my life build

[coarse grove]

also i plan on using bow/quiver cus its cheap 6l bow and i can use soul strike

[limpid current]

im interested to see what the new synth jewel mods will be

[pseudo snow]

lol. rip poet's pen.

[limpid current]

i mean we already have some gg corrupts

[wary minnow]

put it this way vulpix0r

[coarse grove]

poests pen? who is that kek

[wary minnow]

do you like Avatar of the Veil on Raider?

[limpid current]

friendship ended with poets pen now cospris is my best friend

[tacit storm]

anyone else in here a melee lover and feeling like jumping off a bridge?

[coarse jackal]

poets pen is dead

sad i have like 20 poets chars

[wary minnow]

because I think it's very similar in the end to how that node functions in Raider

[coarse jackal]

and was my main source of levels

:C

[violet nymph]

so i think im going to test life leech support on slayer to see if it makes a difference. :/

[coarse jackal]

1-68 in 3hr

[violet nymph]

wait so serious question, does ignite count as damage over time for the patient reaper?

[coarse jackal]

literally broken

[pseudo snow]

it was a dumb fucking item to be fair

[limpid current]

a top end loreweave will still be worth the same price it was

[wary minnow]

yes @violet nymph

[zealous prairie]

Resourcefulness grants 15% increased Evasion Rating, 10% increased maximum Energy Shield, 5% increased maximum Life, 0.5% of Life Regenerated per second. The small passives above and below it grant 12% increased Evasion Rating, +12 to maximum Energy Shield, +12 to maximum Life, and +4% to all Elemental Resistances.

[strange marsh]

yes

[violet nymph]

Oh shit, omg

[past hearth]

nooo they killed best boots

[vast horizon]

Think curses skill will actually be relevant now

[zealous prairie]

thats a big notable

[vast horizon]

Me like

[keen tartan]

hooey

[jaunty nest]

i dont understand how slayer's Now also grants 50% reduced Maximum Recovery per Life Leech. is supposed to be helpful to the player in any way

[violet nymph]

Pizza Totem Trickster holy fuck

ez levels

[past hearth]

it's a nerf lol

[vast horizon]

Pizza totem?

[magic blade]

whats a pizza totem

[keen tartan]

No idea if I should stick with a storm brand starter or what

[coarse jackal]

i dont know why theyre nerfing slayer

period

like

[past hearth]

flameblast totems = pizza sticks

[pseudo snow]

"Lilly Roth's gems are now sorted into Skills and Supports, and she now sells Added Chaos Damage Support and Detonate Mines." SSF players fucking rejoice

[coarse jackal]

its already a shit ascendancy

[vast horizon]

Storm brand is still relevant

[limpid current]

im just having shiny eyes thinking about how good max es values will be

[coarse jackal]

why nerf it more

[magic blade]

OH

[limpid current]

with the new tree

[keen tartan]

about 25% nerf but thats not the worst

[glass bison]

is that sarcasm?

[wanton rivet]

wow PP dead ;\

[violet nymph]

Flameblast totems = pizza sticks, used to be the best leveling spec for like 6 patchs

[vast horizon]

Like the nerd is not that bad?

[hollow mason]

Dark Arts placed in deadend near EO, where another pathing is minion life and regeneration - soooo smart

[coarse jackal]

slayer has low playrate

[violet nymph]

Now it's damn good again

[coarse jackal]

if they nerfed the ascendant part of it

and left slayer alone

[prime peak]

Is ARC is good???????

[magic blade]

detonate dead is looking good too

[coarse jackal]

it would be good

[limpid current]

arc is good

[violet nymph]

Arc is balanced

[hollow mason]

arc is good

[limpid current]

just not broken good

[magic blade]

theres so many good spells!!! asdflkajshf

[hollow mason]

SB is good

EK is good

[vast horizon]

Storm brand still a safe bet

[limpid current]

everything chaos is good

[magic blade]

i'm gonna bite the bullet and try Divine Ire

[hollow mason]

Freeze pulse still shit

[limpid current]

if you dont mind playing it

[languid torrent]

Oooof, my shield spell block cluster got merc'ed hard 😐

[violet nymph]

Freeze pulse is OP they don't clip on walls anymore

[limpid current]

not really though?

the new shield nodes are lit

[vast horizon]

Soulrend is 🔥

[prime peak]

Molten Strike still good Juggernut Tanky build?????

[violet nymph]

yes

[limpid current]

ms is unchanged

[violet nymph]

always will be

[hasty hound]

am I understanding this right? summons summoning phantasms?

[violet nymph]

Yes, you

are

[elder thorn]

Stupid question: is synesthesia live? Or patch? Or what?

[halcyon veldt]

You can no longer craft multiple mods which affect an item's quality on the same item. Each will preclude the others.

[limpid current]

patch notes are live

[hollow mason]

wheres freezepulse could upcliff safe? also doors and ladders prevents u from casting

[ornate sluice]

Toxic Rain and Quill Rain unchanged? buff Chaos and DoT? guess what Im gonna play boi

[limpid current]

league update will still be a while

[halcyon veldt]

Is this RIP to melee for the entire league?

[violet nymph]

SRS + Summon Phantasms = pog

[pseudo snow]

"The +1 to maximum totems mod has been moved into the Shaper item mod pool, appearing on Shields." Oh neat

[limpid current]

yeah melee is dead except for bf and lolten strike

[keen tartan]

Valandor you can see countdown to the new league in the main news page

[limpid current]

and tec slam if you want to torture yourself

[hollow mason]

rip vaal rf

[unreal rampart]

The unique axe Debeon's Dirge now occasionally plays sounds during combat. HEY LOOK! An update for my shout build I'm gonna make

[loud pulsar]

PC is friday the 8th

[violet nymph]

consecrated ground is still amazing

[stone belfry]

melee is dead--except for the skills that aren't

[violet nymph]

^

Not dead, just not fucking 17m dps bladeflurry

[ivory lark]

spark totems 🤔

[languid torrent]

The new shield nodes are farther out of the way, and require more points to get to as opposed to the three previous shield block nodes that were right by the "Lord of the Dead" node.

[hollow mason]

Scourge arrow have a chaos tag

[unreal rampart]

I'm building Melee anyways and no ones gonna stop me

[violet nymph]

Scourge arrow OP

[placid grotto]

arc traps honestly doesn't look that bad

[limpid current]

so thats like one or two damage nodes less?

[violet nymph]

it's still the best bossing skill in the game, that won't change

[limpid current]

overall it's a big big buff

[lyric ore]

storm burst/divine ire cwc wave of conviction/purifying flame

[placid grotto]

I'm pretty sure it will still 1-shot packs

[lyric ore]

which combo lads

[south blaze]

rip vrf, oh well

[hollow mason]

so, freezepulse fixxed for ladders, cliffs and doors or not?

[violet nymph]

Scourge arrow can 1 click clear maps

[grave valve]

yo

the fuck

[past hearth]

nah

[grave valve]

the arctic breath buffs are intense

[hollow mason]

AB is shit

did u tried it?

[hollow talon]

Wtf

[violet nymph]

wave of conviction looks so good, i'll probably start with it

[grave valve]

i did

[hollow talon]

There's literally no more reason to run life

[grave valve]

life flasks

lmao

[floral pumice]

aww... I guess Arc is dead... long live arc

[jade badger]

Guys

[violet nymph]

But you're wrong

[jade badger]

I'm confused

[placid grotto]

nah you can run another utility flask instead of life flask

[modern nymph]

Yea es got buffed pretty drastically

[jade badger]

I don't know what to go

[pseudo snow]

arc barely got touched

[jade badger]

Ek nova

[hollow mason]

AB have delays at any stages - slow casting, slow proj travel, slow area spreading

[placid grotto]

which would you choose: 1 life, 4 utility or 5 utility

[grave valve]

arctic breath literally has 300 extra base dot damage

[violet nymph]

life + es + MoM = bigger life pool then CI

[jade badger]

Or soulrend bane occultist

[placid grotto]

🤔

[violet nymph]

and we have life and es leech

now

[grave valve]

and give or take an extra 100 base hit damage

[limpid current]

chaos dot meta

[hollow mason]

who cares if u could just use vortex INSTANT

[jade badger]

Wait

[limpid current]

all we need now is a big single target spell

[jade badger]

Is it worth taking ghost reaver now

Even if we have no source of hp leech

[coarse grove]

so any1 have any guesses if soulrend dot will work off spell damage like ED?

[violet nymph]

Soulrend trickster with life leech gonna be noice

[placid grotto]

I'm not convinced you need ES leech with Occultist. It has tons of ES regen IIRC

[limpid current]

and in any case the buffs basically cut any existing bossing time by at least half

if not 3/4

[coarse grove]

@placid grotto need, prolly not, nice to have? sure

[hollow mason]

AB is shitty skill not cause it havent damage (this was an issue too), but cause it has slow cast rate, proj travels slowly, damaging area spreading slowly. Mobs died to their age, not to AB

[placid grotto]

30% regen of 10k ES is 3k/sec

[grave valve]

mfw convocation is 4s

and ascendancy makes it 2s

[midnight phoenix]

I mean why wouldnt u get some leech as occ

[grave valve]

finally

[midnight phoenix]

If ur build hits

[grave valve]

god fuckin finally

[midnight phoenix]

Its so few points

[coarse grove]

its pretty miminum investment really

[violet nymph]

The avatar, master of all three life pools, only he can save the meta, but right before we needed him most, he vanished, like melee

[limpid current]

i mean the nodes provide a lot as well

[jade badger]

But shield recharge

[limpid current]

spell damage, spell leech, damage on full es

[jade badger]

Es

Also wait, soulrend and bane hit right

[coarse grove]

like i dont see point if your geting soulrend

bane doesnt hit

[placid grotto]

@inner briar what you talking about? Melee got a huge buff. Ask MS

[coarse grove]

soulrend should?

[violet nymph]

Lol

[placid grotto]

😄

[violet nymph]

cleave looking op rn

[placid grotto]

oh yeah that too

good for lab farmers

[violet nymph]

not joking, hank the tank is still damn strong

just not meta

[ivory lark]

cleave bad, garbage range

[violet nymph]

?

you playing the same cleave as me

[jade badger]

So wait

[placid grotto]

the jewel does a good job for me

[jade badger]

Soulrend

Hits

[placid grotto]

and gives fort on hit

[violet nymph]

soulrend hits

[coarse grove]

yeah kinda banking on it

[violet nymph]

and leaves a secondary DoT

[limpid jacinth]

so, for es cant take acrobatics

[magic blade]

i'm surprised HoAg was untouched

[coarse grove]

soulrend hit, curse on hit, profane bloom, ??? , profit

[violet nymph]

life + es + mana leech, hybrid is king, I'm saying it

[jade badger]

What about my

[violet nymph]

Run trickster and acro

[jade badger]

Recharge rate

[violet nymph]

is there anything new this patch for attack focused ascendancies?

[limpid jacinth]

yes

[stone belfry]

Yeah, nerfs.

[violet nymph]

im not seeing anything

[limpid jacinth]

slayer dead

[stone belfry]

Slayer gutted.

[violet nymph]

slayer like dead dead

[past hearth]

they nerfed slayer hard for no reason

[midnight phoenix]

Not many specific things

[violet nymph]

like, berserker dead

[midnight phoenix]

Unless u wanna play cleave

Why is it antisynergy

[past hearth]

it's actually more dead than berserker now

[coarse grove]

slayer gutted, dumbstered, burnt and then buried

[teal axle]

gives you some evasion/dodge but you cant take phase acro/acro because it slashes your ES by 30%

[jade badger]

Would 50% less recharge rate affect my tankiness as an es char

[limpid current]

wraeclast is unholy ground

[jade badger]

Or would the leech make up for it

[limpid current]

it'll rise up again

sooner or later

[midnight phoenix]

So its exactly the same as live ghost dance then

[teal axle]

and shade dance/ghost form used to give you ES for a evasion chest and vice versa

[violet nymph]

i was about to be happy when i saw the life leech support change, then i saw its just at 20% quality

ugh

[teal axle]

so you lose the bonus ES

[midnight phoenix]

Thats not going anywhere i dont think

[teal axle]

I might still try it with like storm burst or something

[frail mirage]

I cri loreweave nerf... oh well probably for the best

[midnight lichen]

so what is the verdict

[pseudo snow]

I'm honestly surprised elementalist survived this patch nerf-free

[midnight lichen]

spells good now or no?

[jaunty nest]

this league we are gonna play splatoon with consecrated ground builds

[midnight phoenix]

U still get bonus es and eva

[teal axle]

both brands got nerfed but who knows if thats enough to kick storm burst donw

the new unleash spell support seems memey but idk what I'd use it with

[coarse grove]

any news on openarl?

[fathom nymph]

Will spark be able to kill kitava hc on league start. Seems like suicide

[teal axle]

perhaps

[jade badger]

So

If I use soulrend

[teal axle]

hardcore is 99% you just dodging

[jade badger]

Ghost reaver is a must take

Right

[teal axle]

no?

[jade badger]

Even with 50% less recharge rate

[teal axle]

its a dot

[limpid current]

soulrend has leech built in

on its hit

[teal axle]

^

[jade badger]

Ah kk

[teal axle]

its a dot, doesnt hit for all that much as for as we're aware

I like how they buffed cold snap though

[limpid current]

but if you gmp it or something it should give back a respectable amount of es on top of recharge

[frail mirage]

They dared people to divine orb their items to nerf them... bad peer pressure

[jade badger]

What about single target

[limpid current]

no numbers yet

but the new auras are another buff to those

whatever they may be

[jade badger]

No like

[limpid current]

zealotry and malevolence both

[jade badger]

How would I do single target

Still using gmp

Or just slower proj

[limpid current]

single target is basically throw your dot and blight away

[frail mirage]

Fork support looks nice

[teal axle]

Im jiving on spark or storm burst, but I got midterms next week so imma probably not go too hard on launch

[ivory lark]

so all curse duration passives got adjusted to not work with bane lul

[jade badger]

Wdym

[ivory lark]

curse skills have X% increased skill effect duration -> X% curse duration

this gives me hope that bane might be good

[limpid current]

there are going to be so many ways to build an aurabot this league too

[jade badger]

So if I'm running bane tri curse

No point to get curse duration

But skill effect duration

[violet nymph]

Arc nerf not nearly as bad as I thought

rip Arc totems tho

[limber spire]

i guess flame totem still can't be linked with cwc since totems innately can't trigger things

rip

[ivory lark]

arc traps should be fine, but arc mines need to get closer now

[frail mirage]

Well now I actually have to decide between loreweave and kaoms heart 🤔

[hollow mason]

why the hell dual-wielding spell damage cluster have pathing from templar area through Minion regeneration and life nodes?

[teal axle]

because ayy

[violet nymph]

the damage effectiveness hurts my build some tho

need to figure out how much

[ivory lark]

I was gonna do a curse build after they said they're removing boss less curse effect

[fervent plover]

Cloak of Tawm'r Isley can once again be obtained, though the method is a secret waiting to be discovered.
ooh baby

[ivory lark]

but then added it with a nerf

[crystal frost]

so guys coldsnap/vortex or elementalist winter orb for league starter

[frail mirage]

@wary isle what have you done

[wary isle]

:~)

[teal axle]

coldsnap got a small buff, both probably good

[rugged locust]

chris said the likely thing was only because it's not 100% if there's no room for a third sulphite in the map

[frail mirage]

Ggg let's compromise can I have 79% loreweave 😉

[vital urchin]

how viable is the new spark for a leaguestarter

[violet nymph]

Pious Path losing it's mana regen is dumb tho

[rugged locust]

they put a ton of spell dodge on trickster... acro-CI howa charged dash viable?

[fervent plover]

i'll let you know, I plan on playing spark

[violet nymph]

That is like THE reason to take that skill

[midnight turtle]

Hey is there anybody here that basically knows how to create builds? Im wondering which build would be good for league starting. I used to do arc witch but now arc is dead imo

[fervent plover]

idk how so it'll be fun

[limpid current]

try a gc miner

[violet nymph]

Arc is nowhere near dead

[rugged locust]

soulrend sounds like an easy to build character

[limpid current]

arc is balanced, not dead

[violet nymph]

yeah arc still looks great

[elder marsh]

arc indeed balanced

[mystic canopy]

how is soulrend not just the same character as ED?

[midnight turtle]

I was going to do a GC sabateur

[past hearth]

ice spear with chain good for clear?

[rugged locust]

arc has about the same damage before, just won't oneshot 3 screens at once now

[midnight turtle]

But glacial cascade just got nerfed hard with arc

[mystic canopy]

literally just replace the ED gem with soulrend

[limpid current]

soulrend is basically the same, but chaos dot got yuge buff

[violet nymph]

GC didn't get nerfed for selfcast or totems, only mines

and traps

[warm breach]

They were saying they were gonna add 2 new gems or something that will make selfcasting stuff much better, do i remember wrong or where are the gems?

[violet nymph]

unleash/intensify

[pseudo snow]

a 10% damage nerf and less chain range isn't enough to kill arc

[violet nymph]

exo

[midnight turtle]

Really? I didnt see that in the patch notes. they said the damage is nerfed

[warm breach]

oh nvm think i found em

[limpid current]

unleashed and intensify

[violet nymph]

cast speed is increased

to make up for it

[mystic canopy]

how did chaos dot get buffed?

the aura?

[rugged locust]

more options = more stacking

= less qol

[limpid current]

aura/flat damage increase on the gem/decay massively buffed

lots of increases from many sources

[past hearth]

im putting snakepit in my right ring slot and runnign ice spear boys

ice spear arc!

[rugged locust]

death's oath buff with the new chaos aura still doesn't sound like enough to do single target by itself?

[violet nymph]

i can't believe they buffed ice spear

[mystic canopy]

i wasn't expecting ED to get such a big buff

[violet nymph]

i thought it was already good

[mystic canopy]

now i might play ED

[fervent plover]

Vorici on Escort duty now gives more and better quality Gems, including a 21 to 23% Quality Gem at Rank 3.
Think you can corrupt one for lvl25?

[pseudo snow]

cwc ice spear gonna feel so good

[violet nymph]

ED can probably boss now lol

[limpid current]

the new changes basically mean cut bossing time by 3/4

[limber spire]

there's no way it wouldn't be corrupted

[past hearth]

even then it's still not that great

[limpid current]

if you stick everything into a +3 staff

[fervent plover]

i'm gonna get like, minimum tier hyped just in case

[violet nymph]

i'm still playing freezing pulse as a starter

[fervent plover]

yeah i meant qual not level because im bad

[hollow mason]

little damage increasements to icespear - compared with freezepulse buff - meh

[limpid current]

or if you just went wand and shield you would get insane es

[fallow pine]

Woah the crafting change from pale council is wierd

[past hearth]

they changed it's interaction with snakepit hto

[limpid current]

thanks to the new shield nodes

[fallow pine]

silver coins might be a lot more profitable now

[fervent plover]

quality corrupt might set wuality at a number instead of adding/subtracting

[violet nymph]

my starter was ALREADY freezing pulse so i'm happy as hell

winter orb isn't dead lmao

[past hearth]

but still good

[mystic canopy]

also what class would i make a soulrender/EDer? occultist? trickster with the buff?

[limpid current]

occultist is still best

[hollow mason]

@fallow pine i opened court to friends and someone grabbed my multicraft recipe, that was no fun at all

[past hearth]

they arent gonna kill console friendly skills

[rugged locust]

pale court unlocks means you can share with the party now?

[violet nymph]

mechanically winter orb and bv were unchanged therefore they'll be amazing still

[mystic canopy]

yes poober

[velvet fossil]

is EK gonna be good?

[mystic canopy]

well it's still ek

[past hearth]

ek is gonna be nuts

[mystic canopy]

so, no

[limpid current]

ek coc is good enough

[midnight turtle]

Lucien the damage for GC was overall better even accounting for the lower spell cast

[limpid current]

but selfcast eeeeh

even with the supports

[mystic canopy]

yeah coc ek might be fun

[velvet fossil]

what class would u go for EK?

[fervent plover]

essences
oh no

[fading pelican]

Lowlife ek will come back

[hollow mason]

@violet nymph vaal rf nerfed, 28% from 39% at level 20

[violet nymph]

"633 to 949 Physical damage at gem level 20 (from 457 to 685)." "120% (from 100%)." there's no way EK won't be good. it's like a 30% buff

[past hearth]

unleash with ek sounds fun

[limpid current]

so almost nothing

[violet nymph]

i am actually happy vaal rf got nerfed tbh lol

[mystic canopy]

yeah but it's still EK, meaning the mechanics still suck

[jaunty nest]

did they rename betrayal's transport to escort?

[fading pelican]

But u have nova

[violet nymph]

unleash with ek will make it not suck

[shell cobalt]

how hard did storm brand get hit the website is unreadable on my phone

[violet nymph]

run around, find a boss, powpowpowpow

[past hearth]

ek nova was meta with 5 more high end damage dont forget

[hollow mason]

but with nova u still have same single shit target

[mystic canopy]

storm brand got hit pretty hard

[limpid current]

the only thing chaos caster is missing is a single target skill that does comparable damage

[hollow mason]

storm brand got minor nerf

[past hearth]

now you get 50% conversion on tree and save a gem

[limpid current]

which might not be out of possibility because they said they were expanding on chaos archetype

[crystal frost]

strom brand still is king for leveling

[rugged locust]

have the hideouts all been revealed so far? or only two?

[mystic canopy]

we also don't know how much soulrend will do

[hollow mason]

ney

storm brand still strong

[mystic canopy]

maybe soulrend will just have absolutely stupid base damage

[rugged locust]

there's the haunted mansion hideout and the twilight temple hideout that I remember

defiled cathedral hideout?

[hollow mason]

yep

[violet nymph]

"Now has a cast time of 0.7 seconds (from 0.75)." i'm more happy about ED getting this and the aoe shit than the damage change lmao

[limpid current]

the dot is no slouch either, whichever mobs they were using it on

in the skill previews

[rugged locust]

I want moon temple hideout :(

[limpid current]

keeled over near instantly

[rugged locust]

oh right, there's the alpine or whatever hideout too

[limpid current]

from what i assume is a gmp cast

[hollow mason]

aoe nodes for spells near EB 😄

[rugged locust]

that's 4, what's the fifth?

[teal axle]

glacial?

[limber spire]

CWDT wave of conviction will probably be a staple

[hollow mason]

moon temple unique map hideout

[halcyon veldt]

So how was this patch supposed to buff "hand casting"?

[rugged locust]

alpine, said that

got twilight temple hideout too

[teal axle]

glacial?

[limpid current]

the main buffs are those two support gems tho

[hollow mason]

brutal?

[fallow pine]

@halcyon veldt Lowered many cast times and support gems

[violet nymph]

oh shit i just realized something

[rugged locust]

glacial/brutal are old now

[mystic canopy]

it's supposed to buff handcasting mostly by nerfing mines

[halcyon veldt]

But the cast time change is tiny

[violet nymph]

the hatred change ALONE makes GC better than last league

[fallow pine]

Mines didn't really get nerfed

[spark lake]

Unleash support is lit

[fallow pine]

tiny

[naive radish]

hatred is nuts

[teal axle]

the two spells mines were abusing got small nerfs

so

[fallow pine]

calling 11% more cast speed tiny

[hollow mason]

Yeah, especially the diff between Cold damage and fire spell damage than Ash have

fire spell damage

[limpid current]

triherald inpulsa elementalist got hit hard though

only thing about it that didnt change is inpulsa itself

[hollow mason]

also we have now
prevents interruption from stuns while channeling
stun avoidance while channeling
what else?

[violet nymph]

conc effect/intensify as well as hatred makes GC sleeper meta through the "nerf"

[hollow mason]

@limpid current i used 2-heralds elementalist for 2 leagues, its fine

[kindred dagger]

Honestly so far i allways somehow understood the ideas behind patchs changes, but this time not really sure, some seems really good and other looks like they make no sense.

I feel like somehow the dev themselves got lost 🤔

[deep wave]

Arc is ded; winter orb ded?

[violet nymph]

no

[hollow mason]

lol, no

[limpid current]

but they're not dead

[violet nymph]

Winter orb not effected. Arc is fine

both are still great

[crystal frost]

winter orb is still ok

[stone belfry]

uh guys question about infused channeling

if you use it with physical

[limpid current]

can we please pin 'arc isnt dead'

[stone belfry]

(blade flurry)

[deep wave]

arc is fine

[violet nymph]

If you add in the new tree stuff Arc is better then ever with all the cast speed boosts

[deep wave]

range 50->25

[kindred dagger]

new infused looks cool, thats some kind of ideas that feels great

[hollow mason]

could we pin spoilers:
arc - not dead
winter orb - not dead
storm brand - definitely not dead

[violet nymph]

you can fit way more Arcs inside each Vaal arc window

[limpid current]

so it doesnt offscreen clear maps, big deal

[violet nymph]

"oh no, i can only clear one pack at a time, the HORROR"

[icy lake]

the range nerf isn't really any big deal, lol

[stone belfry]

Blade Vortex--sort of dead

[eager terrace]

it'll be noticeable b

but not dead lol

[deep wave]

is it like 50%range nerf?

[limber spire]

oh wow ash frost and storm is worth taking now

[eager terrace]

have you seen the range of arc

[fallow pine]

BV was supposed to die

[hollow mason]

blade vortex same good, just not same broken

[limber spire]

it's another 12% all res

[fallow pine]

So you can convert with other stuff now

[sour thorn]

is the skill tree comparison site working for u guys?

[fallow pine]

Like the divine skills

[rugged locust]

range applies only to chains, or to initial hit range too?

[eager terrace]

hell sometimes you will still chain far because monsters stagger such

[icy lake]

the only area where BV got nerfed in was super deep delves

[eager terrace]

just chain

[limpid current]

bv is somewhat nerfed compared to initial what it was a league or so back

[hollow mason]

i wouldnt explain why BV is still good. BV still good

[midnight phoenix]

Storm brand is not gonna feel so good leveling i think

[rugged locust]

then all it does is mean you can't offscreen half the map in one cast...

[kindred dagger]

I dont see why those spell would be dead as first they were STRONG, so nerfing them just making them still good so thats fine, and then they buffed somehow like arc does less damage but got higher cast so we just have to calculate the DPS not the raw damage

[midnight phoenix]

Def not day 1 before u have tabula

[halcyon veldt]

Added a Maximum Resistances Maximum. You can no longer have your Maximum Resistances (and therefore your Resistances) raised above 90% from any source.
So many words to say "your resistances cannot exceed 90%"

[violet nymph]

bladefall intensify/conc effect is gonna be insane. they could've left bladefall's damage alone and it'd likely still be insane

[deep wave]

should i start league with arc? want to play with soulrend but its a bit far away

[violet nymph]

arc will still be fine

so yes

[hollow mason]

@midnight phoenix why? onslaught gem buffed, multiple inc cast speed nodes on the tree - SB just better

[limpid current]

you can just use other chaos spells until gravicius

you can segue in easily

[violet nymph]

i'm gonna start with freezing pulse personally

[rugged locust]

oh hmm, does this mean if you go beyond the max max, and you enter a -max map, you'll still be at 90% max?

[midnight phoenix]

Those things help everybody

[deep wave]

which act is the golden hand?

[karmic lake]

The Poet's Pen now only triggers spells socketed within it if you attacked with that specific weapon. Previously, dual-wielding The Poet's Pen would mean that you triggered spells from both weapons with each attack.
Poets pens killed ?

[icy lake]

oneslaught stormbrand for support should feel pretty good 😄

[modern nymph]

@deep wave id do ED into soulrend

[limpid current]

act 2

[icy lake]

no

[modern nymph]

A3

[midnight phoenix]

Storm brand itself does a full support gem less dmg

[deep wave]

what is ED

[rugged locust]

essence drain

[icy lake]

now you just need attack speed for poet pen

rather than nothing at all

[kindred dagger]

arc or arc totem allways have been great league starter, clean everything and easy to use with some late game possibilities seems, i dont think the reduce change range will change much

[fallow pine]

Did you guys notice shattering steel used only the mainhand? And it was still bad lmao

[limpid current]

you mean sever the right hand

[icy lake]

if you have 0.125 attack speed

[limpid current]

that's act 3

[brave pulsar]

yeah "just need" to double it

[limpid current]

golden hand is fellshrine

[icy lake]

poet pen works the same as it does now

[past hearth]

just use one pp

[deep wave]

thanks for answer

[zealous prairie]

how does selfcast bladefall sound?

[violet nymph]

The backhand nerf to Skelly and SRS is rude tho

[hollow mason]

You wrong, SB still deal damage, not only on leveling - on high tier grinding too

[icy lake]

poet pen frenzy had 0.25 attack speed with just gem qualities, basically

[deep wave]

Heard someone say ED/Contagion OP true?

[midnight phoenix]

Do u think it doesnt do a full support gem less dmg

Cos it does

[hollow mason]

full support less dmg? what?

[grizzled raven]

yuge ed buff

[icy lake]

ED/Contagion always cleared super fast

[grizzled raven]

it got a bunch more damage

a new aura

[icy lake]

just a weird playstyle

[modern nymph]

Its gonna be even better now

[grizzled raven]

aoe node

[icy lake]

but w/e

[deep wave]

\

[kindred dagger]

@violet nymph where to you see a nerf for those ? cause of the change on bone helmet ? didnt the divine orb things make it a legacy item so we can still ahve it to full 40% again ?

[icy lake]

ED got more damage, an aura, and can use conc effect now

[modern nymph]

Ed is gonna be crazy

[grizzled raven]

aoe tag is secretly big for ed+contagion

[brave pulsar]

that's not how divining works

[midnight phoenix]

U need 33% more dmg for storm brand to hit old numbers

[grizzled raven]

conc effect is really stronk

[icy lake]

so it effectively got 100%+ more damage

[midnight phoenix]

That is a full gem

[kindred dagger]

Guys its not ED its just chaos league, everything chaos got bufed like crazy

[grizzled raven]

not to mention the general bustedness that is occultist

[icy lake]

@midnight phoenix new aura for more spell damage AND crit chance

[violet nymph]

@kindred dagger higher mana cost out of nowhere. it is small but RUDE

[midnight phoenix]

Everyone gets that

[icy lake]

yes

but stormbrand didn't need any more

[mystic canopy]

man i wanted to try soulrend, but god damn ED got buffed like hell

[modern nymph]

I think 33% less dmg on stormbrand is a bit much tbh

[midnight phoenix]

Its not like that makes stormbrand better or some shit relative to whatever else u could be doing

[halcyon veldt]

Inpulsa untouched

[kindred dagger]

@violet nymph oh just this, i was thinking of it but i didnt remmemer i had trouble with mana on my SRS, but yeah that feel random

[icy lake]

stormbrand will still clear all content with like 8kdps tooltip

[hollow mason]

the only viable storm brand nerf - lightning spire trap nerf

[midnight phoenix]

The build alrdy had single target problems its why ppl ran lightning spire

Which also got nerfed may i add

[elder thorn]

Arc still good?

[modern nymph]

Yup

[halcyon veldt]

@kindred dagger dark pact get buffed!

[deep wave]

Why are people so mad about loreweave max res 80->78

[icy lake]

i always did vaal stormcall for single target in stormbrand

time it right and 1 vaal sc was all i needed

[fallow pine]

It's 25% less damage on stormbrand

Not 33% less

[kindred dagger]

@halcyon veldt yeah i know, all chaos got hell buff

[fallow pine]

You need 33% more to hit the same levels

[floral pumice]

arc's distance is halved...

how is that still good?

[midnight phoenix]

Thats what i said

[icy lake]

arc distance?

like wtf

with enough packsize

[deep wave]

50-> 25

[fallow pine]

It's still fantastic at destroying packs

[icy lake]

you don't WANT it to chain to 50

[copper kernel]

thats going to feel awful

[hollow mason]

ok, i would scream now SB dead, but thats not true at all.

[kindred dagger]

I dont think it change anything on arc range, cause it was allready bouncing out of the screen so you can just clear still a full screen, thats shouldnt be much a problem

[floral pumice]

but EK... what a buff

[deep wave]

it was range from 50 units to 35 units

[icy lake]

what ild said, lol

[midnight phoenix]

Yeah no u always want it to chain to 50

[modern nymph]

Fireball also got a buff lol

[deep wave]

*25

[fallow pine]

Arma brand is more dead

[midnight phoenix]

25 isnt even a full screen

[icy lake]

arc with 50 units is only really good if you always used impulsa

[midnight phoenix]

Its like 75% of a screen

[tranquil beacon]

rip arma brand

[hollow mason]

Fireball + Cremation

[fallow pine]

75% of a screen is still a long way

[limber spire]

at least it doesn't affect the cast range

[deep wave]

what evenis 50 units/25 units

[fallow pine]

It used to go way too far

There's a graph somewhere

[midnight phoenix]

Well previously it was 2 screens lol

[deep wave]

damn

[fallow pine]

It's still fine

[icy lake]

arc went off screen so it didn't kill mobs right infront of you

[fallow pine]

Just not insane

[midnight phoenix]

U would throw it and it would kill packs 5 seconds of running ahead of u

Now u need to throw more

Which means less safety and less speed

[hollow mason]

HoAg untouched, im fine

[midnight phoenix]

I dont think its dead

[elder thorn]

Um... why are my masters missing from my base? D:

[hollow mason]

Scourge arrow - buffed

[fallow pine]

!league

[midnight phoenix]

But its sure as fuck not a tiny nerf

[icy lake]

less safety? more cast speed is more safety to compensate

[fallow pine]

command doesn't work here I guess

[icy lake]

it is also a higher dps

[kindred dagger]

Guys the spell bounced like out of the screen, it was crazy i dont think thats a big deal and if it is ok lets give it back +10% range if needed they adjust in no time if really needed. i dont see arc bad as the spell is so good and easy to use and auto target clear everything, but maybe im wrong we'll see

[icy lake]

esp with vaal arc

[midnight phoenix]

Im talking about traps here

[fallow pine]

!leagues

[proper void]

Temporary leagues last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. It has a lower player population and an inflated economy.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

[midnight phoenix]

Self cast arc is whatever

[fallow pine]

There we go @elder thorn

[violet nymph]

was not in notes

but in the tree info

[halcyon veldt]

Where are the occultist nerfs?

[icy lake]

and they are pretty much telling us to stop using trap supportted spells

[midnight phoenix]

That build had problems before its got the same problems now

[elder thorn]

@fallow pine Ah ty

[icy lake]

buffs actual trap spells

[fallow pine]

Wait what that's so busted WTF

[jade badger]

https://pastebin.com/APB0t9rj

[icy lake]

nerf the spells that was used in trap and mine

[fallow pine]

I think that's a mistake

[grizzled raven]

wtf that arcane will node

[jade badger]

Is this tree good enough

[midnight phoenix]

My over under on occ percentage of the league after 1 month is 35

[grizzled raven]

that can't be real

[jade badger]

For the new Soulrend

And bane

shoot

rep[ost

[grizzled raven]

why play anything but occultist?

both cold and chaos dot are very strong

[eager terrace]

I doubt occ gets much above 20

[hollow mason]

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Scourge_Arrow
w8, what, scourge arrow has Chaos damage tag

[midnight phoenix]

Its alrdy 16 lol

[velvet fossil]

what class do u usually go with ED?

[grave valve]

oh

[eager terrace]

yep

[jade badger]

@hollow mason its noted in the patch notes

[icy lake]

occultis or trickster

[midnight phoenix]

And its major competition lost a ton of sustain

[grave valve]

i forgot scourge arrow was buffed

[jade badger]

It was given one

[limber spire]

i'm expecting some janky interactions with unleash support

[eager terrace]

elementalist isn't going anywhere

[ionic tendon]

damn I thought they said soulrend was going to be a level 1 skill, now its a gravicious skill,

[fallow pine]

Is that a distance guide for ants?

[floral pumice]

You can see the distance reduction

[violet nymph]

the worst thing about all these passive tree changes for duelist is that he's so far away from all these juicy nodes.....

[grizzled raven]

you don't need ele to use inpulsa

sooooo it kind of is

[grave valve]

just wait til patch 3.7

[brave pulsar]

it's a thumbnail lol

[hollow mason]

@jade badger so, just no info about patch at wiki, but tag added, right?

[grave valve]

then duelist will be most played class

[midnight turtle]

Anybody here very experienced with started builds?

[grave valve]

after bezerker

[icy lake]

the only true class that got gutted is slayer

[jade badger]

@hollow mason yes

[icy lake]

nothing else is made terrible

lol

[grave valve]

and then 4.0 is bow/wander league

quote me malakas

[midnight turtle]

I would like to talk to somebody knowledgeable in builds if somebody is here

[floral pumice]

much bigger distance guide (not for ants)

[icy gyro]

when do we get to know the damage of soulrend?

[grave valve]

wait, who did i owe my first exalt drop to...

[eager charm]

Just ask @midnight turtle

[jade badger]

@midnight turtle

[eager charm]

Tomorrow @icy gyro

[jade badger]

I'm not knowledgable

[kindred dagger]

does any people realize of the damage effectiveness changes ? Some have just lost like 10% but many got like 20 or +30% or even more thats feels insane

[jade badger]

But I know a guy

who is

[icy gyro]

Thank you, cant wait for it @eager charm

[midnight phoenix]

Idk i suspect ascendant prolly doesnt feel great for the amount of currency u need to spend

[icy lake]

yea the damage effectiveness changes are the only ones that matters, lol

[jade badger]

@midnight turtle his name is poe.ninja

[grave valve]

tbh

i'm actually intrigued in EK now

[jade badger]

**Spreading Rot no longer causes enemies Hindered by Blight to take increased Chaos Damage, and instead now causes Blight to inflict Withered on enemies for 2 seconds per copy of Spreading Rot.
**

[icy lake]

the flat damage changes don't affect scaling as much as ppl seem to make out for

[jade badger]

lmao

spreading rot is now trash guys

[grizzled raven]

yeah blight is rip in pepperonis

[jade badger]

throw it away, wither totem better

[grave valve]

well

[fallow pine]

How is that trash lmao

[grave valve]

blight got a dps boost

so

[icy lake]

blight totem 🤔

[jade badger]

Yeah

[grizzled raven]

why wither totem when you can auto wither as occultist?

[jade badger]

Tri curse

and shields

[fallow pine]

Because they're not mutually exclusive

[jade badger]

es*

[grizzled raven]

tri curse is noob trap

[halcyon veldt]

Why did SRS get needed?

[jade badger]

bro

[icy lake]

depends on the skill, it rarely gets affected by tri curse

[jade badger]

I wanna play bane

[limber spire]

but bane + triple offensive curses = wew

[jade badger]

And soulrend

^

[kindred dagger]

Im trying to got deeper into theorycraft i'll look for it, but i think many of those change could in the end result of stronger dps for late game as its supposed to be scaling damage

[jade badger]

Actually yeah.

[violet nymph]

Really the winner in these patch notes are Occ Death Oath players

[jade badger]

Temporal and Enfeeble doesnt sound good anymore

[rigid needle]

are new league patch notes always this massive? my brain is bleeding

[jade badger]

^

yes

[limber spire]

honestly it was pretty small this time

[icy lake]

this one is pretty tame

[limber spire]

since they didn't have a list of unique item changes like that one time

[jade badger]

^ compared to delve

[violet nymph]

we have had patch notes over 3 times this long

[rigid needle]

that's crazy

[jade badger]

yes

Is this your first league

[drifting solar]

ehm, did i miss the post where they gave us the numbers for the new skills...?

[icy lake]

wait till we get an actual patch note with 4.0

[jade badger]

second8

[icy lake]

[violet nymph]

4.0 notes will be massive i hope

[limber spire]

that's tomorrow @drifting solar

[eager charm]

tomorrow

[drifting solar]

Ohhhh

[rigid needle]

betrayal was my first so this is my first offseason into new

[jade badger]

So whats better now

[brave pulsar]

just wait until you can cast shock nova on ball lightning

[jade badger]

Bosses have less curse resistance