I'm playing either spark totems or frostbolt inquis
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last river
past obsidian
It's still good
limpid current
blade vortex didnt get hit that hard
last river
or maybe frostbolt totems idk
violet nymph
I would hope not
gaunt plover
handcasting inquis sounds like fat dmg to me
ocean fulcrum
Wernt they supposed to nerf totems and traps this league?
jade badger
indeed
limpid jacinth
nice es gem
jade badger
Fat damage
past obsidian
Storm Barrier Support/Infused Channelling Support
violet nymph
Killing skills for the sake of a meta shift is still asinine. So it's a good thing they left things reasonable
limpid current
essence drain got a fat fucking buff
gaunt plover
ED and EK gonna rule???
near zealot
i mean didnt ed need it
cerulean lava
so what league starter yall going?
violet nymph
Yeah that's gonna be my single-target on my soulrend Trickster
near zealot
since storm brand sort of just replaced ed contagion
thick stratus
dont talk about ek its mine 😠
limpid current
my chaos caster is a go
ocean fulcrum
Shockwave totem
last river
fuck yall
limpid current
soulrend/bane/ed
violet nymph
I wasn't sure it'd be necessary but hey, now it's just a good idea to have it
past obsidian
Now causes supported skills to deal 10% more Spell Damage while you have Arcane Surge at gem level 1, up to 19% more at gem level 20. This is separate to the spell damage multiplier granted by the Arcane Surge buff itself.
violet nymph
Ice Shot Deadeye/Raider, EK Trickster/Assassin/Templar, Generic Summoner or ED/Contagion/Bane/Soulrend Occultist are my options.
mortal kiln
Shockwave totem
gaunt plover
I think i might go Trickster EK trip herald and eventually LowLife my guy
shut ferry
20% more damage on both fork and chain
violet nymph
also I'm not gonna bother with bane.
hushed moss
Yup, going with Juggernaut Cyclone Mjolner triggering sparks.
past obsidian
How do I fucking get a 8L chest piece
maiden junco
ed isn't gonna suddenly become popular, nobody likes playing it
violet nymph
lightning tendrils now has RADIUS scaling FINALLY
maiden junco
it's not fun to play.
past obsidian
Now even arcane surge is a choice wtf
violet nymph
ED will become popular dude
What
nice
The buff makes it actually playable
probably hard cast dispair with malevolence aura
zealous lance
ed is cool.. but the single target sucks
past obsidian
@violet nymph Why bother with tendrils with incinerate exists
tidal frost
is OOS possible yet
near zealot
i mean is it still sort of clunky
violet nymph
this patch note is so good
jade badger
VAAL RF GOT BUFFED BOYS
maiden junco
20 bucks says ED is still <1% of played skills
keen sentinel
when can i see a passive tree to fuck around in>
violet nymph
essence drain IS the single target
violet nymph
GGG at it again with the amazing balance
jade badger
IT GOT NERFED
ivory lark
lol who rebalanced EK, this is OP
violet nymph
plus it's meant to be on top of soulrend DoT
gaunt plover
o
hidden kestrel
no nerf to Scourge Arrow yea?
past obsidian
The Innervation buff now lasts for 8 seconds at all gem levels (from 4). BROS
gaunt plover
Scourge arrow is same
past obsidian
INNERVATION BUFF
zealous prairie
Is ED broken now?
limpid current
lightning tendrils also got buffed
zealous prairie
like ED with soul rend seems uhh
gaunt plover
still B-but my lightning dmg
violet nymph
what does this mean??
Reckoning
Can now affect up to 40 targets per attack (from 20).
Rejuvenation Totem
Mana Cost at gem level 1 is now 9 (was 13).
@limpid current I don't see a reason to use tendrils with incinerate around tbh
still chasm
hmm
violet nymph
oh its a typo/missing bullet nvm
stark willow
ED Contagion ES leeching occultist is basically a tank now right?
jade badger
Why everyone talking about Spark
I dont see its uses for boss dps
Just for insane af clear especially on inquis
modern nymph
Nah
fervent igloo
🦀 Slayer is gone! 🦀
🦀 Slayer died for Scion's sins 🦀
past obsidian
@jade badger Who cares about boss klling with spark, just use lightning spire trap
jade badger
Now wtf
modern nymph
Spark now pierce again and hit twice
past obsidian
It erases all bosses
limpid current
decay support is also buffed
modern nymph
Alot of stuff is insane now
past obsidian
@jade badger We don't know what the more damage multiplier is yet that is in addition to arcane surge buff
modern nymph
Look at EK
past obsidian
@jade badger Let's be real, most people here don't even bother with uber elder
modern nymph
And yea chaos skills are gonna be crazy
still chasm
i havent made it that far
past obsidian
Uber elder killers is like the minority
jade badger
Whats so good with EK
old coyote
EK is back!
severe dirge
slayer is forever in my heart
severe dirge
ill miss it
modern nymph
Ek nova has always been great
violet nymph
Can confirm, fuck endgame bossing
modern nymph
Now its got dmg lol
fervent igloo
Ek with +300 more damage
limpid current
to be fair with even half decent gear and just a +3 staff you can still finish off uber elder, just not as quickly as some other builds
jade badger
But honestly
still chasm
so
jade badger
Inquis is just OP now
past obsidian
@fervent igloo It's just 20% more damage tho
still chasm
Inquis?
violet nymph
Yeah I don't know why they even gave inquisitor so much....everything
limpid current
slayer is strictly back to eating paste
modern nymph
Inquis looks like ass in mtx
limpid current
there's nothing left for it now
shell hull
ooh contagion buff
modern nymph
Main reason im not playing it
lyric ore
immune to elemental ailments while stationary. you have Consecrated Ground around you while Stationary
violet nymph
That's a templar problem, not an inquis problem
lyric ore
so you cant be frozen?
shell hull
can now get 40 peeps
still chasm
hmm
glass bison
rip tombfist
violet nymph
But hey, I'm a Shadow main
still chasm
interesting
violet nymph
so yeah
limpid current
arcane guarding notable 
modern nymph
Trickser look great too
shut ferry
You can probably be micro-frozen, like a quick stun or something, who knows
trim radish
melee just keep getting worse and worse
last river
Fireball gets 25% damage buff
cloud siren
Crafting Unlocks from the prophecies related to members of the Pale Court as well as the unlock from The Pale Court encounter can now be used up to 6 times.
trim radish
tombifst is dead too
cloud siren
wtf
last river
Which means that so does fireball ele
limpid current
like i needed even more es on a chaos occultist
modern nymph
Fireball buff is dumb
last river
So many options all of a sudden
cloud siren
are metacrafts now limited use?
past obsidian
TOMBFIST NERF WAS JUSTIFIED
past obsidian
Everyone and their mom's melee build was using tombfist
rigid forge
Since Storm Call got buffed, does that also affect Vaal Storm Call?
zealous prairie
did they buff EK by like 45%?
modern nymph
Trickster ignite ball is gonna be dumb
glass bison
wait how bad is the pp nerf?
tall rock
Ascendant - Slayer
No longer grants 20% increased Damage while Leeching. Now grants 30% increased area of Effect if you've Killed Recently (up from 20%). Now also grants 50% reduced Maximum Recovery per Life Leech.
RIP
last river
@fervent igloo Occ is balanced by the fact that everyone is going occ
still chasm
RIP slayer
shell hull
wonder why they nerfed ligthning spire trap like that
last river
You can't buy decent es gear at reasonable prices if everyone is occ
fierce loom
everything's gonna be super expensive.
shell hull
it already had a cool down and such
still chasm
i will never get it over lvl 88
jade badger
Pious Path has also been reworked, and now grants 20% increased Attack and Cast Speed while on Consecrated Ground (from 25%), Consecrated Ground you create grants Immunity to Elemental Ailments to you and Allies, 200 Energy Shield Regenerated per Second while on Consecrated Ground, and Consecrated Ground you create Lingers for 4 seconds.
shell hull
can't spam it : /
fierce loom
RIP Inpulsa's prices again
jade badger
time?
devout hound
r.i.p loreweave
shell hull
it takes some skill to use it as well
last river
Lots of options this patch
jade badger
Also wdym by stationary
tough harness
man the shockwave totem buff is huge
zealous prairie
@past obsidian Now deals 7 to 10 Physical damage at gem level 1 (from 6 to 9) and 633 to 949 Physical damage at gem level 20 (from 457 to 685).
jade badger
How long do you have to stand still
iron violet
@shell hull because people were dropping 3 and taking out bosses pretty quick
jade badger
To activate the buf
maiden junco
so like, intensify is like swapping increased aoe and conc effect automagically?
cloud siren
9% extra to max resists is still OP
limpid current
the + per 10 int shaper mod for lightning damage got a slight buff
zealous prairie
they buffed base and added effect
quaint sentinel
EK back?
sonic spear
fire ball ?
past obsidian
@zealous prairie Oh right I forgot about effectiveness
limpid current
also wow ouchie for bone helmet
zealous prairie
its a massive buff
limpid current
its damage buff got reduced
shell hull
i mean eyah its good againts bosses, but lots of skills are lol
limpid jacinth
nice reduce in flame dash coulda lowered the waiting while at it for memes
shell hull
like preload mines nukes bosses too
vast horizon
rip my arc build TT TT
jade badger
Actually
near zealot
rip leech tho
sonic spear
about time arc got hit
iron violet
i guess they felt it was too good against bosses.
jade badger
orgasmic
quaint spear
Cyclone is still not removed from the game? Shame...
sonic spear
FIREBALL IS IN BOYS!
limpid jacinth
what's cold exposure
limpid jacinth
fireball was in already
jade badger
It was already a very good skill
willow saddle
and no lightning tendrils area buff rip
iron violet
@limpid jacinth -25% cold res per stack I believe
limpid jacinth
POG
tough harness
@limpid current bone helmet made half the lab enchants obsolete if you were on the left side of the tree
jade badger
WAAAY better
last river
Clear winners are fireball ele, worb players(10% nerf LUL) , the madmen that play ED, and EK
little turret
where's my ICESTORM notes???
limpid jacinth
my gf gonna get buffed feels more oneshots
iron violet
@willow saddle tendrils got a radius buff, that seems pretty decent
limpid current
icestorm got a buff
jade badger
Actually SELF CAST IS NOW META
shell hull
but now dropping the bass might be more funt o play
past obsidian
Added a new notable near Eldrich Battery: Arcane Expanse - The notable grants 15% increased Spell Damage, 10% increased Area of Effect if you've Killed Recently, 10% increased Area of Effect for Spell Skills, and +10 to Intelligence. The two preceding passives grant a total of 20% increased Spell Damage and 10% increased Area of Effect for Spell Skills.
jade badger
DO NOT GO TRAPS/MINES ANYMORE
past obsidian
What
limpid jacinth
icenova nerf?
old coyote
@little turret in uniques
limpid current
The Whispering Ice's Icestorm skill now has a 0.75 second cast time and a 6% chance to critically strike.
cunning dust
rest in pepperonies arc
little turret
@old coyote ty
jade badger
You deal so much more dps with self cast
violet nymph
this patch seems like its focusing on witch, shadow and templar, which means the 3.7 patch should focus on marauder, duelist, and ranger
olive vector
wow, DD's damage effectiveness went from 100% -> 160% 
past obsidian
Mind Barrier is no more. Farewell Mind Barrier.
sonic spear
i dont understand the Poets pen changes?
iron violet
@jade badger uhhhh ice trap and lightning trap both look good
past obsidian
What is mind barrier
sonic spear
its slower now?
past obsidian
Can someone remind me
tight holly
EK Pog
limpid current
haha rip loreweave max res down to 78%
still chasm
hmm
rigid forge
Fireball + Unleash or Fireball + Intensify?
wooden parcel
poet's pen rip?
limpid current
look how they massacred my boy
iron violet
@jade badger i think it will just move from arc/glacial cascade to another one
sonic spear
LOL
tough harness
also, doesn't the new tree data usually come out with the patch notes?
or is that later
shell hull
oh hey Vaal RF nerf
jade badger
WAIT
jade badger
I HAVE AN IDEA
raven temple
ED pog
jade badger
INQUISITOR, CONSECRATED GROUND WHILE STATIONARY
still chasm
lol
zealous prairie
cant wait to see what new meta is
willow saddle
oh look siphoning trap ice damage only bufff
tall rock
Tombfist no longer grants 6-10% increased Attack Speed. Existing versions of this item will lose the increased Attack Speed if a Divine Orb is used. Do it. We dare you.
Loreweave now sets your Maximum Resistances to a maximum of 78% (from 80%). Existing versions of this item can be updated to the new values with a Divine Orb.
this kinda hurts
sonic spear
CoC EK back?
limpid jacinth
dat troll
jade badger
BOYS NEW META BUILD
cunning dust
necromancer league__
jade badger
FIREBALL INQUISITOR
past obsidian
As a result of Blunt Trauma moving out, Serpent Stance has got its own cluster and is filling it with used IKEA furniture and also staff stats. The notable is unchanged, but now has three preceding passives which grant a total of 60% increased Global Critical Strike Chance while wielding a Staff, and +16% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier while wielding a Staff.
What
rapid harbor
limpid current
they didnt nerf delve farming much
near zealot
oh wait since theres new skill enchantments that means that the rng is even god damn higher to get what u need
limpid current
it's essentially unchanged at 60 and up
shell hull
changes to fork/chain actually indirectly buff SST I guess
quaint spear
Why the hell are they buffing discharge even still
shell hull
since you gotta use one usually fork
violet nymph
i love this (inquisitor): -----Consecrated Ground you create grants Immunity to Elemental Ailments to you and Allies, 200 Energy Shield Regenerated per Second while on Consecrated Ground------
shadow night
rip hatred
tough harness
@past obsidian ikr
tall rock
so any loreweave alternatives?
tough harness
staff crit is going to be amazing
limpid current
also a syndicate prophecy
past obsidian
Staff crit was already good tho
jade badger
Mind Barrier is no more. Farewell Mind Barrier.
past obsidian
I really enjoyed casting with a staff
jade badger
aw
rigid forge
Hatred is still good
past obsidian
What is mind barrier
cloud siren
now we talking
limpid current
VD wasnt nerfed that much
past obsidian
What did it even do
tough harness
@broken haven man they barely nerfed it
shut rampart
LOL
snow summit
rip tombfist?
fathom nymph
How bas is bv nerf
limpid current
not that much either
sonic spear
When do they show the new skill gem stats?
tough harness
@past obsidian mind barrier was the spell block node just a bit north of witch
stone belfry
Escape Artist no longer prevents you from being Stunned if you haven't been Hit recently, and no longer grants 8% reduced Damage taken if you haven't been Hit Recently. It now grants 12% increased Attack and Cast Speed per Ghost Shroud, Cannot Be Stunned while you have Ghost Shrouds, and 20% chance to Dodge Spell Hits if you have Energy Shield.
What the fuck?!
limpid jacinth
arcane surge oof
shell hull
my 3 dragons idea is escaping
stone belfry
Cries in raider
past obsidian
@tough harness OH that node, nobody ever took it
still chasm
hmm
tall rock
🦀 Poet's Pen is Dead 🦀
last river
Wait wtf
jade badger
Wait, is Divine Ire gonna be fuck awesome
last river
Discharge buffed
still chasm
i take that the entire trees are gonna get reworked
astral forge
You are now less likely to find fossils at depths shallower than 58, and more likely to find fossils at deeper depths. oooof
last river
Why has openarl forsaken us at the time we needed him most
tough harness
also seriously does anyone know when we get the passive tree?
broken haven
oh poets pen vd got killed anyway. lol
stone belfry
Laff, RIP poet's pen
eager terrace
how is that oof, it is a good thing
tough harness
I thought it drops at the same time as the patch notes usually
quaint spear
So CoC discharge still viable?
eager terrace
low level delve farming was corny as fuck
rain badger
So many skills got HUEG damage buffs
astral forge
My pure phys cyclone got a bit of a nerf, fuck it im running it anyways haha
past obsidian
Sanctify has been renamed and completely reworked. It is now called Sanctuary, and now causes Consecrated Ground you create to apply 10% increased Damage taken to Enemies, you have Consecrated Ground around you while Stationary, and 15 mana Regenerated per second while on Consecrated Ground.
tight holly
Cloak of Tawm'r Isley POG
limpid current
low level delving didnt even get nerfed taht much
stone belfry
I mean now it'll be slightly less low-level-y?
past obsidian
Aww yiss gimme some of hat sanctify
cerulean cloak
"Enchantments (such as those found from the Labyrinth) now have their own mod slot on items. They no longer use the Implicit mod slot."
HUH.
violet nymph
Cartography Scarabs now give 20/35/50% more chance to find Maps (from 30/60/100%). ----- T.T
stone belfry
Instead of going less than level 58, now you're between like, 59 and 100?
I don't see the big deal really
past obsidian
@violet nymph Are you using a ffxiv avatar
cunning dust
flame surge meta
past obsidian
Oh no wonder lol
cunning dust
i never knew i wanted it but my body is ready
astral forge
@limpid current im sure its gonna scale up, more fossils on higher levels
limpid jacinth
lean quarry
scion:slayer leech was nerfed?
tall rock
so where to synthesized enchant be placed? in the explicit mods?
tawdry mango
RIP bone helmets
shut ferry
I swear it doesn't matter how strong uniques are or aren't. They just look at the top few most common ones and nerf them. Everyone could be wearing surgebinders or something and they'd be nerfed.
jade badger
limpid jacinth
gonna vaal some shit
cunning dust
@limpid jacinth WTS elder i86 bone helmet 50ex
shut ferry
Guess it keeps things fresh, though
jade badger
Should we not revert back to this build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Bj0Pr8ayg
past obsidian
The three Two-Toned Boots basetypes have had their implicit resistance values lowered to 8-12% (from 15-20%). Existing versions will be changed to these values if a Blessed Orb is used.
limpid current
i think somebody typoed this
past obsidian
Wtf
limpid current
Elder Tier 1-15 (costs 15 Chaos Orbs): Requires a Rare map. Opens a version of your map at Tier 16, randomly rolled as a Rare, with a chance to be Corrupted.
past obsidian
I never asked for this
limpid jacinth
i got a secura helmet lul
brave pulsar
lol have fun with half a ring implicit boots
shell hull
woo Crit Flame Totem Chieftan buff
rain badger
Bone helmet and two toned boots were buffed though? why are you guys freaking out, you can now have an enchantment AND the implicit
agile pawn
Cast on Crit survived?
shell hull
also the fire conversion is buffed to, hmm maybe should actually go avatar of fire now
cerulean cloak
@tall rock Nah, sounds like it has its own slot now. Like a 2nd implicit.
limpid current
poets pen is just about dead though
nova robin
In other words, when a monster attacks and you use Immortal Call after attack is used but before it lands, you will now correctly mitigate this damage. This was previously not the case.
Does this mean Immortal call and CWDT never worked?
cunning dust
so whats the meta boys
tall rock
lab enchant
implicit mod
synthesized enchant
affixes
tall rock
oh god that's a lot of stats
cunning dust
whats my 50 ex league starter
past obsidian
Kingmaker now has "nearby allies have +50% critical strike multiplier", "nearby allies have fortify" and 250-285% increased physical damage. Existing versions are not affected.
Wtf
violet nymph
CoC Cospri Assassin might just be stronger this league honestly
past obsidian
Can I give this to my guardian
violet nymph
With the Hatred change
willow saddle
FORK is back
cunning dust
@nova robin cwdt+immortal call USED to work but i cant recall it working after 3.0
limber spire
wait nvm
nova robin
Ah
sonic spear
Chain IS BACK!
tall rock
Due to Templar budget cuts (and performance concerns (but mostly fiscal responsibility)), many of the Blackguard Jaegers in the Ascent have lost their capes.
quaint spear
@nova robin we’ve been bamboozled the whole time
past hearth
okay im back with beer
jade badger
lmao @cunning dust it still works?
past obsidian
Lilly Roth's gems are now sorted into Skills and Supports, and she now sells Added Chaos Damage Support and Detonate Mines.
FINALLY
past hearth
time to read these notes
past obsidian
I can remove added chaos from my filter now
limpid jacinth
cunning dust
i thought it said enduring cry
limpid jacinth
rip going over 20
cunning dust
to be fair enduring cry+cwdt also used to work
nova robin
@quaint spear I used immortal call + cwdt before. Never felt any damage was being reduced. NOW I KNOW WHY. THE WORLD IS A LIE
stone belfry
Errrr
jade badger
So wait
past obsidian
Helena no longer follows the player into the Lord's Labyrinth to read crafting recipes, as she hasn't passed Izaro's trials. You'll have to pass that important crafting knowledge onto her yourself.
stone belfry
you perfect fossil for 30
past obsidian
Lmao
stone belfry
and then craft quality
jade badger
Spark is
GOD LIKE CLEARING
trash bossing, right
past obsidian
Git gud helena
stone belfry
for ~50
last river
@jade badger Only if you can't get the boss into a corner
stone belfry
Can't you use vaal glacial hammer?
limpid current
im happy that chaos is getting another day in the sun
tidal frost
if you stack duration spark gets good on bosses
stone belfry
To make this ring?
stone belfry
To bounce sparks off of?
nova robin
Unleash support tho. Shotgun meta incoming
ornate light
Tombfist no longer grants 6-10% increased Attack Speed. Existing versions of this item will lose the increased Attack Speed if a Divine Orb is used. Do it. We dare you.
limpid current
these changes just about nearly doubled the existing effectiveness
ornate light
Love it haha
near zealot
quadrupling the effectiveness you say?
cunning dust
so whats the strongest looking skill right now?
jaunty nest
arc is ruined, i spent the whole of last league getting gear for it, and now this...
cunning dust
might actually be lame totem pog
limpid current
it's not that badly off
shut ferry
How is arc ruined
ornate light
Arc isnt ruined
jade badger
Arc isnt ruined
ornate light
Just balanced now
nova robin
arc isnt ruined
jade badger
^
limpid current
it just does a little less damage
near zealot
arc are not is ruined
tall rock
Vagan's Chests in all Jobs now give more and better items.
nice try but I won't place vagan in my syndicate board
tawny pasture
@jaunty nest Arc isnt ruined ... u dont know what u are talking about
jade badger
An OP skill just became balanced
past obsidian
Storm Burst is now available for the Witch, Templar and Scion after completing The Siren's Cadence.
shut ferry
it casts faster, yo
jade badger
Whats your problem lol
past obsidian
Yay
ornate light
Hahaha vagan
hoary mauve
Arc is fine its just doesnt clear 5 screens
tidal frost
not 50 yards must be bad
jaunty nest
Now has an added damage effectiveness of 80% (from 90%).
Lowered the range at which Arc can chain from 50 units to 25 units.```let me bend your rear for a moment
ornate light
Not really
spring relic
???
cunning dust
limpid current
it's not ruined, its balanced
shut ferry
y'all crazy
wary smelt
well so i started last league and i have no idea how big changes are
ornate light
Still playable
past obsidian
Arc didn't get completely fucked
stone belfry
Its chain range got cut in half.
past obsidian
Arc is balanced
cerulean cloak
"Crafting Unlocks from the prophecies related to members of the Pale Court as well as the unlock from The Pale Court encounter can now be used up to 6 times."
So, uh, does that mean you can only cast those enchants a limited number of times? Or does it just limit the number of people that can learn it?
mystic canopy
GGG: "faster cast time, but less damage per cast. STOP USING MINES DEAR GOD"
shut ferry
I'm playing self-cast arc for sure
ornate light
Play a spark build dude lol
jaunty nest
ok, how about 80% fucked?
ornate light
Itll be the same thing
near zealot
brought in line with other skills=/=fucked
past obsidian
How was arc clearing offscreen ok?
near zealot
its still arc just not dummy thicc range
limpid current
80% fucked lol grow up
past obsidian
It's like 20% fucked but still good
ornate light
Yikes be nice boys
paper jasper
what you guys think about storm brand nerf? dead or just takes a bit more investment?
jaunty nest
i dont mind the reduced chain distance, but the damage reduction hurts
stone belfry
Also, WTF is with the pale council meta mod nerfs
past obsidian
Damage reduction is fine
stark willow
self-cast arc with unleash is actually still gonna good. just have to actually aim now
stone belfry
Why is there a limit to the number of times?
ornate light
Fireball op
iron violet
@cerulean cloak i think it is just making it so that only 6 people can learn it from one encounter? i guess someone figured out a bug to get more than 6 or something
cunning dust
raiz spastic over these patch notes
olive vector
Oh wait, they actually did nothing for totem/trap support gems? Lol, I thought they were gonna minorly nerf them to encourage handcasting.
jade badger
Whats more important
ornate light
Fireball gonna and spark gonna be op
jade badger
Rushing to maps with a godlike clear speed build but trash bossing (Spark)
limpid jacinth
proven wadi
EK! Ice trap! I might use them
eager terrace
raiz is not good at quick maffs
past obsidian
I have been waiting for ice trap buffs
jade badger
Or rushing to maps with decent clear and decent bossing (winter orb and ice spear)
past obsidian
It's finally my time to shine
limpid current
im happy with these changes overall just a bit bummed loreweave and poets pen are nerfed
violet nymph
but im pretty sad that all of these changes target buffs for the magic caster primary classes and not the rest T.T
ornate light
Its better for the game I guess
jaunty nest
so will the changes affect existing and levelled skill gems?
limpid jacinth
haku can drop over 20% quality, drop gems bastard
eager terrace
I felt like those were two of the most obvious item nerfs
limpid current
yes all gem changes are retroactive
jaunty nest
:/
ornate light
But can we talk about how fucked gc miner is now ;)
near zealot
legacy gems lol
proven wadi
I need to go back and read item changes now
shell hull
lol Vagan got buffed
river scroll
Will be there a way to turn off shadows on dx11?🤔
shell hull
but will sitlll be trash
stark willow
shav's are about to be expensive af again
stone belfry
Helm enchant + 2x bloodstained
limpid current
cinderswallow got what amounts to an animation change
cunning dust
guys frostbolt meta yes/no?
tough harness
tbh I'm surprised ice nova got nerfed that hard
ornate light
Time to buy a better CPU to run poe
rugged locust
why wasn't gc made into a holy skill
I thought holy skills were all phys conversion
ornate light
Haha
tough harness
was it used on anything super strong other than CoC with frost bolt?
pliant granite
You are now less likely to find fossils at depths shallower than 58, and more likely to find fossils at deeper depths.
rip delving
quaint spear
LOL nice try to make Vagan important
limpid current
still torn on cooking up a nice regalia or reusing restless shroud
ornate light
Hahahah WHAT NOT RIP DELVING
limpid jacinth
@river scroll from what i know from other games you should be able to
rugged locust
I miss my full screen ice novas
ornate light
Ethereal knives looks busted
stone belfry
RIP delving?
ornate light
Absolutely busted
limpid jacinth
it doesnt look it is
stone belfry
How is it ripped?
tall rock
The bonuses granted to upgraded Breachstone areas (from It That Fled's Research bonus) have been reduced. Tul's, Esh's and Xoph's upgraded Breachstones have had their increases to experience gain reduced to 100% for all tiers (from progressive growth per tier up to 250%). Uul-Netol's upgraded Breachstone's experience bonus caps out at 150% (from 300%), and Chayula's upgraded Breachstone experience bonus caps out at 200% (from 350%).
this won't stop breachstone rotations right?
frank barn
just delve at 70
limpid current
delving is basically unchanged
astral forge
I'm not seeing any div card changes or boss adjustments,,
limpid jacinth
@astral forge
ornate light
From it
near zealot
deeper delve buffed hyper low delve nerfed
cerulean cloak
"The Crafting Bench now displays all mods, not just the mods you have unlocked. Mods you have not yet unlocked are greyed out."
Thank God. You think that also includes higher tiers of the mods you have?
ornate light
Yee
pliant granite
sulphite "buffed" last patch
shut ferry
lowered mana cost of flame dash means I have to de-level arcane surge one more time 
prime peak
Arc got a little nurf doesn’t hurt so I am happy my build still works
ornate light
Sulphite gain nerfed but who cares
limpid current
sulphite being buffed a bit isnt bad either
astral forge
@limpid jacinth thanks, sorry i meant like shuffling them around, i shouldve been more specific
zealous prairie
CoC cyclone - ek + bladefall is buffed?
jade badger
WE KNOW
round oyster
wait, how do they buff all these spells and not nerf triggers/totems? I thought the whole reason for buffing them was because triggers/totems were strictly better. Won't they still be better?
jade badger
ITS AWESOME
nimble pond
Onslaught Support
Now grants supported skills a 10% chance on Hitting a Unique Enemy to grant Onslaught for 3 Seconds. WTF ? so rip speeding up lvling ?
zealous prairie
@round oyster they didnt want to nerf totems/traps but rather buff handcasting up to them
ornate light
Blade fall OP
shut ferry
that's in addition to other lines buddy
quaint spear
What up with major?
ornate light
Cant fucking wait
limpid jacinth
poeskilltree>pob
round oyster
@zealous prairie yes but this buffs both equally. So they'll still be better
river scroll
@limpid jacinth actually it is not possible. Only in dx9
olive vector
Added a new Intelligence Skill Gem - Zealotry: Casts an aura that causes you and your allies to deal more spell damage and grants increased critical strike chance with spells. You and your allies may also create Consecrated Ground when you hit strong enemies.
"strong enemies" ? 
?
near zealot
rare/unique
limpid jacinth
i t hink you can lower it to almost noting doe @river scroll
hushed flame
Rare/unique
tall rock
PvP Changes
olive vector
Oh, gotcha ty.
jade badger
Hey guys, I have a new question
ornate light
Honestly poeskilltree is gonna be better because its gonna be updated at least
jade badger
So you know EK got buffed right
blazing glen
essence drain huge dmg buff?
near zealot
pvp changes but HoGM still a bricked map
jade badger
Would this make it more viable for single target
limpid current
chaos casting and ek are both bananas
ornate light
No
limpid current
for the upcoming
jade badger
Cause I just saw EK in action with clear
ornate light
I think itll be a much better map clear gem
solemn mason
Ek was good before the buff
jade badger
What about for bossing
nimble pond
hello ? pls answer ? does the new onslaught gem not work on normal mobs anymore only on unique mobs ? if this is true lvling will be way way slower then before
jade badger
BF?
solemn mason
Now its even better
misty night
what about ice trap starter build now?
ornate light
It works @nimble pond
shut ferry
No @nimble pond that's a new line
jade badger
Onslaught Support
Now grants supported skills a 10% chance on Hitting a Unique Enemy to grant Onslaught for 3 Seconds. @nimble pond
ornate light
On all mobs
limpid jacinth
it's an additive not replacing @nimble pond
limpid current
ice trap should still work
ornate light
Hahaha
true spindle
Enchantments (such as those found from the Labyrinth) now have their own mod slot on items. They no longer use the Implicit mod slot.
Is this insane or no
quaint spear
Yes
blazing glen
onlsaught so good damn
ornate light
@true spindle its gonna be busted
shut ferry
that's been known ghosty
idle linden
ED can now be supported by conc effect right
limpid jacinth
it's great for synthesis
forest glacier
Chieftain totems not getting any spells wtf
nimble pond
thanks i thought they completely reworked onslaught so it only grants 3 sec onslaught on hitting unique mob
limpid current
bone helms got nerfed tho
limpid jacinth
bone helm is dead
past obsidian
GOd fucking damnit
ornate light
Yeah hahaha so bone helms are legacy now that were goos
hoary mauve
@true spindle it's so you can lab enchant the new syns items
limpid jacinth
you can get that amount on all helmets
past obsidian
The skill tree is even bigger now
near zealot
is this the end of the gubbens finally
ornate light
I have so much legacy gear now, so do probably everyone here
quaint spear
is EK only viable with CoC now tho?
near zealot
at long last
proven wadi
?
eager terrace
it means there are more gubbens
near zealot
ah fuck
proven wadi
Why would it only be coc viable
tawny pasture
why onlyy viable for coc ?
limpid current
bizarre mystical mcgubbens
tall rock
any alternatives for loreweave now?
quaint spear
I dunno I’m asking
near zealot
alternatives to loreweave is probably still loreweave
limpid current
all loreweave lost was like 2 points of max res
limpid jacinth
it's buffed it's not only coc also why coc
limpid current
its price will drop a bit
proven wadi
If say no it's probably ok to use on its own? I'm going to try
limpid current
but it's still viable
near zealot
its still an extremely strong item
round oyster
aren't trigger/totem/trap/mines still going to be better after these changes?
limpid jacinth
yes
ember lodge
So you can get like 40-80k evasion with jade flasks etc....that makes ghost shrouds amazing 😄
limpid jacinth
nani
limpid current
the point of these changes was so that self cast doesnt feel like rubbish
mortal kiln
I'm hoping there will be a good totem starter
limpid current
not to punish players who played totems and traps
round oyster
it's still going to feel rubbish in comparison
idle linden
@ember lodge but you gotta store all that es somewhere tho
oak void
ek meta ?
limpid jacinth
new minibosses
near zealot
does changes to normal storm call effect vaal storm call at all or are the numbers completely seperate
ember lodge
You don't need that much ES, only 3-4k to soak a single hit.
idle linden
casually getting 80k evasion and 4k ES seems good
limpid current
slayer is done for essentially though
until it comes out of its grave in time for 3.7
misty night
RIP :(
The Poet's Pen now only triggers spells socketed within it if you attacked with that specific weapon. Previously, dual-wielding The Poet's Pen would mean that you triggered spells from both weapons with each attack.
proven wadi
Good riddance
pliant granite
i really hope support gem mods are gonna be more readily obtainable via the synthesis mechanics, so i can dedicate my 6-link to curses 😄
cursive glen
Thanks buffs now I can't decide what to league start with
tall rock
it can still trigger 3 socketed gems right?
jade badger
League start ek
cursive glen
No fuck EK I never liked it
jade badger
But I want to know if ek bossing is trash or not, clear looks good
ivory lark
ek for all content lul
past obsidian
What the fuck
tawny mountain
Well that took a while to read lol
past obsidian
Did they fuck with the shadow area again
proven wadi
Ye
limpid current
yeah shadow is almost unrecognizable
cursive glen
I bought the shuriken mtx hoping I'll like the skill but I still hate using it
pliant granite
more unascended shadows than berserkers this league? HYPE
limpid jacinth
love how my main wasnt touched for starting
near zealot
so did shattering/lancing steel become good in the middle of betrayal or something and not need buffs or did they just not buff them at all
limpid current
a lot of things in witch and shadow were changed
vast berry
so did whispering ice get mega nerfed?
cursive glen
'melee' in3. 7
terse dagger
Soulrend + Bane gonna be good?
limpid current
chaos anything will be good
glossy trench
Now also grants 50% reduced Maximum Recovery per Life Leech.
What does this line mean?
limpid current
this league
near zealot
melee is just ranged marauder
cursive glen
Also that indirect shattering steel buff through fork buffs
shut ferry
Oooh resourcefulness now has regen, that's nice
lapis topaz
man this new staff cluster at which start
limpid current
essence drain basically got buffed by nearly half in terms of damage effectiveness, and decay does even more damage
cursive glen
Yea bu thtne you're playing essence drain
terse dagger
So this will be the stack up dots league?
limpid jacinth
misty night
oooohhh freezing pulse got buffed, freezing pulse totem starter confirmed
near zealot
oh wait is the skill tree change gonna reset all my trees
limpid jacinth
most likely
near zealot
oh god im gonna have to try to salvage everything
tall rock
so any totem/mine build for league start?
terse dagger
jade badger
All trash
forest glacier
Take totems
near zealot
MORE DOTS
jade badger
Self cast is the way
forest glacier
Use a spell
eager terrace
lightning trap is gonna be hella good league start
cursive glen
Seems kind of a waste to league start with a non self cast build though
wary minnow
freeze pulse totems are going to be a VERY good league starter
misty night
@tall rock ice trap/freezing pulse totem ?
cursive glen
This is the self cast league
wary minnow
they already were such a good league starter
cursive glen
But ice trap looks amazing now
wary minnow
idk if that's enough for ice trap honestly
eager terrace
freeze pulse loses to doorways
mystic canopy
eager terrace
never again
wary minnow
that's why you put it on totems Wallach
mystic canopy
what did they mean by this?
Reckoning
Can now affect up to 40 targets per attack (from 20).
Rejuvenation Totem <=====
Mana Cost at gem level 1 is now 9 (was 13).
tough harness
shockwave totems honestly look amazing now?
wary minnow
they accidentally indented rejuvenation totem when it should have had its own header
tough harness
shockwave totem + empire's grasp
zealous prairie
wtf unearth got dmg doubled earlygame
mystic canopy
ah
jaunty nest
what seems like a good 1 active only skill to self cast now?
wary minnow
I want to see how totems interact with wave of conviction
then I'll decide if shockwave totem is good
glass bison
is summon phantasm good now?
jaunty nest
this button mgmt, i dont have enough fingers
wary minnow
not in general alias
glass bison
mm
past hearth
nice cleave buff
wary minnow
it's still rly good for soulwrest and maybe some other minion builds
but in general it's not super splashable imo
brave pulsar
lol they had statsticks all along Fixed a bug which caused Shattering Steel to only ever use the mainhand weapon.
sacred mural
"Crafting Unlocks from the prophecies related to members of the Pale Court as well as the unlock from The Pale Court encounter can now be used up to 6 times." HAHAHAH get fucked multimod service morons. play the game
restive stream
The Poet's Pen now only triggers spells socketed within it if you attacked with that specific weapon. Previously, dual-wielding The Poet's Pen would mean that you triggered spells from both weapons with each attack.
what does this mean
tall rock
mortal fragment prices will spike because of that?
sacred mural
they killed the VD / body swap shit
misty night
i want to see the stats for new gems,
tall rock
rip crafting service?
limpid current
well shit it looks like alchemist node got buffed
ornate sluice
Oh the nerf tombfist 😦
naive radish
storm burst is a physical spell now? lol
cursive glen
How do people even decide what to play lmao everything looks so good now
brave pulsar
divine-related spell
past obsidian
@naive radish 50% converted to lightning
quaint spear
Create new cool holy skills for players to self-cast and promote selfcasting
@
Players start making totem builds with said skills
@
Get Pepega’d ggg
wary minnow
big winners from patch notes imo: freeze pulse, EK, ED, shock nova
past obsidian
@cursive glen Did you download the passive tree planner yet, you get even more nodes I can't even
past hearth
whoa discharge got huge numbers
cursive glen
Not home
random glade
Can't wait to see numbers on Bane
robust ferry
these new nodes on the skill tree are insane
past obsidian
I'm like wtf yo I need more than 111 passive points
cursive glen
@wary minnow you missed fireball
tall rock
H A N D C A S T I N G
naive radish
yeah, phys to light conv. But how is that divine? such a random ass change. Eh whatever.
ornate sluice
Inpulsa unchanged bois
brave pulsar
it's yellow balls now instead of blue
past hearth
^
quaint spear
so it’s the balls hmm🤔🤔🤔
celest hound
78% max Loreweave 😦
rugged locust
-3 to mana cost of channeled skills
jolly tinsel
movement speed cooldown recovery nodes north of templar start
past hearth
yo wtf ek just got 30% increased base damage
jolly tinsel
Flame dash buff
cursive glen
So did most skills
wary minnow
and it still won't be able to kill bosses :^] @past hearth
past obsidian
HELP I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PASSIVE POINTS
limpid current
yooooo those shield nodes for witch are lit
random glade
100% increased ES on shields, yes please
leaden wraith
these inquisitor busffs
cursive glen
@random glade wait what
past hearth
it killed bosses just fine on my coc deadeye ek
random glade
Small node is 40% increased on shield
willow saddle
they made shadow travel worse
random glade
Large node is 60% increased on shield
past hearth
it just took +6 gem levels
random glade
(Amongst other things)
past hearth
oh my god they keep buffing fireball
rain badger
@past hearth that base damage buff, PLUS 100 to 120% damage effectiveness
restive stream
is pob still getting updated
misty night
nice buff on fireball too, prob a nice stater aswell
rain badger
it's actually NUTS
restive stream
@rain badger
past hearth
IM going fireball boys
wary minnow
arl will update when he has time but he works on the actual game now too
past obsidian
@restive stream Prolly not
restive stream
waht do i use now instead of pob
brave pulsar
https://github.com/PoESkillTree/PoESkillTree/releases
misty night
arc RIP or not?
wary minnow
not rip
rancid fossil
what changed with trickster's harness the void?is it still the same with different wording????
jaunty nest
seems RIP to me
jolly tinsel
Arc is 100% rip
past hearth
flamesurge single target setup?
jolly tinsel
the range reduction is HORRIBLE
jaunty nest
the reduced chain is fine, the reduced dmg cripples it
wary minnow
oh it brings it in line with like other skills instead of chaining through the entire map
boohoo
ivory lark
how does one manually change a gem in PoB
fathom nymph
Spark or scourge arrow?
misty night
yeah, i can manage the damage loss, but that > Lowered the range at which Arc can chain from 50 units to 25 units. sucks
nova robin
That SRS nerf came out of nowhere
random glade
@cursive glen
The shield witch nodes, in total, grant:
57% increased Spell damage while holding a shield
100% increased Energy Shield from Equipped Shield
8% spell block while holding a Shield
40% inc block recov
20% increased Spell Damage if you've Blocked Recently
limpid current
lmfao these energy shield leech passives are lit too for non chaos casters
celest hound
Ice Trap looks nuts now.
brave pulsar
what nerf, the cost?
shut ferry
arc is nerfed, but nerfed well in to balance range, it's fine
wary minnow
yeah they raised the srs mana cost
glass bison
Ethereal Knives
Mana Cost at gem level 20 is now 20 (was 23).
Now deals 7 to 10 Physical damage at gem level 1 (from 6 to 9) and 633 to 949 Physical damage at gem level 20 (from 457 to 685).
Now has an added damage effectiveness of 120% (from 100%).
violet nymph
SB still viable starter/endgame right?
wary minnow
inquis still won't be relevant imo
glass bison
does this make this playable?
restive stream
man why did they nerf bone helmets
wary minnow
inquis won't be that great until they rework the ignore res thing
shut ferry
Pious Path is better for hybrids with tiny ES pools, since it's flat and not a % any more
limpid jacinth
k skipping bug fixes and checking tree
random glade
Or, y'now, EB + MoM
daring yew
rip poets pan D:
shut ferry
And it's going to be "always on"
wary minnow
it's way too easy to get res penetration now, ignoring res is not good
brave pulsar
equivalent of having 3333 es before
limpid current
if you used a gmp variant of soulrend
violet nymph
guys, someone got screenshot how enchants will looks like on item after upgrade?
random glade
They didn't rework Elemental Equilibrium? I thought they would
shut ferry
Yeah I'm still not sure about inquis
limpid current
and raised the hit damage as much as you can through whatever means
fierce bay
bruh they nerfed arc
wary minnow
it looks just like implicits do but above the implicit mod scroll up in #old-game-news a bit for an example
past obsidian
Wait if you are doing multiple elemental with holy spells, inquisitor is still good
fierce bay
i dont like the fact they nerfed arc at all
past obsidian
There are a few conversion nodes
quaint spear
wdym inquis is gonna be insane this league
limpid current
its not nerfed
fierce bay
storm brand aswell
limpid current
it just got balanced
past obsidian
Inquis is not insane this league
violet nymph
@fierce bay dude, arc was op last 3 leagues
shut ferry
yeah why is inquis insane
wary minnow
how is it insane
violet nymph
what do you expect wtf
leaden wraith
inquis is gonnna feel so good with the new spells
rocky nebula
Crafting Unlocks from the prophecies related to members of the Pale Court as well as the unlock from The Pale Court encounter can now be used up to 6 times.
Can someone smarter explain this? ty
limpid current
but the chaos dot changes will now actually shave even more time off of bossing
past obsidian
I don't really see how Pious Path will be good for my life based caster rip
lime heron
Thank god Arc is buried
opaque forge
the tombfist nerf is just... eww
leaden wraith
as in other people can use it
wary minnow
it still doesn't do shit except increase consistency with consecrated ground and critting both of which you never really needed and the benefit of critting is ignoring res which is not that good
random glade
@past obsidian Pious Path makes the effects of consecrated path on you permanently on without having to worry about positioning
rancid fossil
guess im building discharge
marble quest
tom riley's back in huh
limpid jacinth
cant load the site time to download i guess
vast berry
it looks like inquis actually got nerfed tbh
wary minnow
@rocky nebula it means that the thing that you click to get the recipe gives you 6 charges of the recipe to use, once you use it 6 times, you have to go unlock it again
shut ferry
inquis is not going to scale into super-late game as well as other ascendancies that can stack penetration on expensive rare gear I think
past obsidian
@random glade Yeah but that 200 es when I'm doing a life build sounds kinda useless
tough harness
@past obsidian EB!
limpid current
i wonder if coc soulrend could be worth building around
random glade
EB
tough harness
then reserve all your mana
vagrant wasp
when does PoB usually get updated
random glade
Or EB + MoM
wary minnow
inquis just isn't good and isn't going to be good until they buff the ignore res node
past obsidian
Why EB MoM when I can just let it shield my life
wary minnow
using consecrated ground ES regen when you have spell leech for EB MoM
random glade
Because then you can A) Reserve an extra aura, B) your ES will always work for damage prevention via MoM
limpid current
i greatly look forward to this league tbh
tough harness
@past obsidian well if you use just EB you can reserve all your mana
past obsidian
Oh right udh
ivory lark
so why did they keep less curse effectiveness? didn't they say they'd just nerf enfeeble/temp chains for bosses instead?
past obsidian
duh
tough harness
what cadence said
past obsidian
Thanks guys
shut ferry
inquis + wave of conviction anti-synergy
violet nymph
love the way GGG trolls us with divine orbs.
Loreweave now sets your Maximum Resistances to a maximum of 78% (from 80%). Existing versions of this item can be updated to the new values with a Divine Orb.
shut ferry
who thought that one up
limpid jacinth
they buffed curses in general
random glade
Also keep in mind Consecrated Ground does Other Cool Things™ now
teal axle
Death's Aura got buffed but I dont feel like playing occultist again
and trickster doesnt CI as well
rip
rancid fossil
so perfect roll loreweaves are gonna skyrocket in price?
limpid current
or one could try going just full on bane with a gorillion curses
limpid jacinth
yes
rancid fossil
should've kept mine longer
shut ferry
not for a long time
random glade
Yeah no I'm waiting for Bane numbers, but I'm planning on 5-curse Bane
rancid fossil
lol
shut ferry
there are so many
limpid jacinth
or go blight coc bane
past hearth
blight cant crit yo
limpid jacinth
f
teal axle
cwc
limpid jacinth
cwdc
wary minnow
might just be braindead and go fp tots :^]
vast berry
so im sure this has been answered a billion times
zealous hearth
was thinking about bane - I wonder if you do bane with decay if decay inherits the curse tag
wary minnow
try out wave of conviction along the way
vast berry
but how does the conc ground crit chance work
zealous hearth
and if it does if they affect each other
random glade
Bane doesn't hit
past hearth
pizza sticks mmmm
coarse grove
why woul bane hit
limpid current
decay got super buffed
limpid jacinth
when damage taken
violet nymph
well holy shit this league looks 10x better than i thought it would
random glade
Can't use Decay with something that doesn't hit @zealous hearth
coarse grove
decay gem got buffed not essence... prolly?
zealous hearth
ah hmm. yeah i guess inflicting a dot isn't a hit
limpid current
ed also got numbers and effectiveness buffed
limpid jacinth
might sell my quality decay
violet nymph
ball lightning got damage buffed AGAIN
ember hill
essence drain has like 40-50% more damage at level 20
violet nymph
its time to make a riposte vengeance reckoning build
ember hill
and it's effected by conc effect now
coarse grove
soulrend should be able to decay
violet nymph
so many skills got insane damage buffs but won't be meta because people will forget by tomorrow
You are now less likely to find fossils at depths shallower than 58, and more likely to find fossils at deeper depths.
that's sucks 😐
Hybrid MoM Trickster pizza BOI with Es, life, and mana leech, and like 7 layers of defences
past obsidian
Do I need to get energy shield leech as eb mom
violet nymph
yes
limpid current
if you want to get constant recharge of your es you can just spam a gmp soulrend
earnest stream
shockwave totem is good now?
past obsidian
ok
ivory lark
lol why did vortex get nerfed
past hearth
oh god chain support is nuts now for magma orb
limpid current
along with one cluster of es leech passives
ivory lark
did I miss a meta memo
past hearth
yes
violet nymph
REVERSE KNOCKBACK RELECT DAMAGE SHOCKWAVE TOTEM CHIEF IS BACK BOYS
coarse grove
bv got nerfed cus meta
limpid current
inpulsas is still alive tho