1┃mirage-league

[spare acorn]

What are the current top classes/builds?

[light adder]

depends for what

[robust fjord]

Guys, does vulkan or dx12 run better?

[light adder]

depends on your system, just try both

[spare acorn]

Console for maps

[light adder]

"maps" as in, just getting to them, mf with abyss and whisps, first char, or 5 mirrors budget...etc etc

[pseudo basalt]

POE you can play on consoles? i forgot

[light adder]

yes, but no crossplay

[foggy whale]

whats most of 1 color u guys have ever gotten

[late cipher]

9k, entire WW was purple

[foggy whale]

damn

[late cipher]

9k purple and 0 any other colour

[foggy whale]

i would say 4k...maybe 5k on rare occasion is the upper limit of my '1color wisp' ....this is first time ive gotten more than 5k of 1 color

[late cipher]

doesnt happen very often but you can occassionally get a map with all wisps same colour, think i've had it 2 or 3 times

[gentle root]

where do we post bug reports? my king is slightly on the steps and not phasing to the 2nd phase after i completed the maze

[sonic stirrup]

/bug
Or just directly in the forums

[lavish violet]

how does this work? am I missing something obvious?

[light adder]

what part is unclear, why the mirror cards are worth so much, or..?

[lavish violet]

well, u need 9 cards for a mirror right? so in this case wouldn't that means u basically giving away 2 mirrors for free?

[light adder]

cards itself, yeah.
but people like to gamble cards with harvest, and with the exploded prices and you only being able to fit so much currency in tradewindow you can use expensive stuff like that for those

[lavish violet]

ohhhh right I totally forgot cards gamba is a thing

my bad

[clever coral]

You guys any big items to go for with DD ignite build? Already got a mageblood

[spice bear]

i knew i was forgetting something

[mint dock]

this gauntlet has taught me that sandspitter crabs are one of my least favorite enemies in the game lmfao

permadying act 1 and dealing with this little shits with just a wand and fireball feels like CBT

[ruby dune]

Good watcher eye, TWWT, charms, IIQ or IIR implicit on defiance of destiny, Greed embrace with crit reduce & max res, etc.

[austere zenith]

hello guys new player here. what is the way to level up 90 to 100?

[violet nymph]

How long affliction league ?

1 more month or 2

[lofty wolf]

does might of the bear in wildwood primalist give 20 extra slots always?

[dusky epoch]

5 way of chayula

if you have tanky build

start mapping

[graceful vine]

I got 12 challenges completed, got the gloves the armour but the boots are missing, any suggestion?

[thorny drum]

OK. dumb newbie question. I chode a path and got 2 points to apply to the tree. How do I get more points for that tree? Thanks

[light adder]

Wildwood ascendancy?
Find the npc, do their next quest

[spare acorn]

Wildwood: NPC gives more quests
Ascendancy: You do more labyrinths as you progress

If Wildwood then first quest is Kill X amount whilst second is Kill Specific monster.
That specific monster starts showing up in wildwood once you get to a certain act so don’t worry if you don’t see them yet, just keep going

[thorny drum]

thanks. I was able to actually get all 4k killed. Now finging the magi to turn it back in. Thats proving to be a challange

[sterile brook]

A common strat for that is to open a non-map zone that's easy to reset like the Desecrated Chambers in act 10, and just enter the Wildwoods to look, then leave and reset it until you find the right NPC

[zenith trellis]

whats the consensus about all the power from affliction does everyone feels like its just unethical giga power creep like me or what

like maji for leveling is absurd

idk about anything endgame tho i havent specced anything other than the maji levelign node yet

havent mapped this league yet

[terse scroll]

maji also motivates me to run around naked(at least in terms of skill gems)
10/10 ascendancy

but eh, from what i know the real crazy stuff is in the primalist tree

[zenith trellis]

do you think endgame stuff is as busted as the maji leveling node?

it feels dirty lol

i mean every league comes with some power but i never do much engame ever so idk how this league compares

but i wanna try to do a lot of endgame this league but also dont want it to feel dirty unethical lol

[terse scroll]

if you mean primalist, its way beyond maji lvling node
maji itself kinda doesnt have much impact on the endgame outside of specific tincture interactions(looking at you, chance for rage every attack) or some haha funny no skill gem in armor piece builds

the spectres sold by warlock are also pretty good btw

[south plume]

Man, they really should let us keep all this shit when merge to standard happens... This is way too fun. Not like standard won't be hurt by the flood of currency and other shit

[zenith trellis]

i mean maji node for leveling only vs everything else for endgame; i get that maji probly aint great for endgame

like it completely trivializes leveling

then again im playing ruthless where leveling is actually a challenge in the first place lol

[south plume]

I play melee, the trivial stuff is gone

[zenith trellis]

there was a time with trivial stuff for melee?

lol

[south plume]

Well unless you play the same generic 2h boneshatter build, yes

Or whatever is optimal for each class

[zenith trellis]

yea nerf boneshatter

[coarse plover]

You don't get to keep the charms in Standard?

[light adder]

We don't know anything about that yet

[faint ravine]

If wildwood ascendancies stay, probably, otherwise unlikely

[south plume]

I'm hoping they stay, borrowed power or not, this league was Hella fun with the ascendancies

[viral prairie]

charm ascendancy is way too powerfull

[south plume]

And? It's not like it passes on to the next league? I really don't see why people are against them

Most league players move on to the next league anyway

And it's not like there is actual PvP in the game either

[desert minnow]

can you modify split item?

[sonic stirrup]

The only restriction on split items is that they can't be split

[faint ravine]

If they stay in standard, they're also in the league

Leagues are standard+a new mechanic

[south plume]

im not asking them to add affliction as a standard mechanic, im asking not to lose all my shit just because it might be 'OP'

after all its standard, and most people play in leagues

[faint ravine]

Standard has legacy items, not legacy mechanics

Either affliction or at least the ascendancies go core, or they dont

[strange flint]

I'd wager charms get deleted like the original sanctum relics

[terse dagger]

I hope wildwood ascendancies stay.. Especially the rucksack because holy crap that thing is so useful.

Affliction has been great.. by far the most time ive spent on a PoE league since the game came out.. They just need to tune the wisps way down and make it rare or something

[quiet sail]

My long view is that the wildwood guys might replace Bandits

I also think they need to tweak Warlock because it seems to lag substantially behind the other 2 in terms of viability

[swift zenith]

I can see some aspects of it staying, but for example charms are too powerful it will probably become an issue for balancing with future leagues if it does not get very nerfed

but the QoL would be amazing, the extra bag slots, and the no gems buffs for early league

[quiet sail]

Charms are powerful, but they’ve basically implemented the same concept multiple leagues now

Charms are Big Tattoos are Sanctum Relics

[faint ravine]

Warden is just as bad except for specifically all damage can poison

Primalist is just stronger because how customizable it is

[spare acorn]

Agreed, first time I’ve been properly playing instead of getting to maps, dying at tier 1 ~ 3 and quitting till next league

[late cipher]

erm nope, Warden is incredibly powerful for some builds / classes
Primalist is the most popular as it can sort of fit into most builds but that doesnt necessarily make it the best

Warlock too can be ridiculous with the right build
Warden and Warlock are a little more niche, Primalist is the jack of all trades

[cobalt isle]

3 kalandra touches, 1400 divs picked up, almost 100 sacreds, still 0 mirrors

and 11 locks

[coarse bridge]

Approximately how much time is left in the league? A month?

[light adder]

we don´t know yet

[left moon]

a little under two months but we don't know for sure until ggg says so

[coarse bridge]

Gotcha thanks there’s still a lot I wanna do and I also wanna play last epoch lmao

[left moon]

Warlock is extremely niche

[late cipher]

it is the most esoteric of the 3 for sure but it's incredibly powerful for the few builds that can make the most out of it

[pale jasper]

Warden = 3+2 arrow

[desert minnow]

I am using ice trap and getting hit hard when doing legion with ele reflect map and enemy phy dmg extra lightning aura, is that possible?

even if they are in stasis

or getting one shotted, which usually doesn't happen in other maps

also not sure what means that I damage a generally partially in stasis or fully, sometimes he doesn't spawn, I think he might be weakened when damaged fully

[tawdry plover]

Your trap shouldn't reflect but maybe frostblink or something else is

[wide flare]

how much longer is the League going for anyways

[clear night]

march-april

[wide flare]

according to the wiki the last couple leagues were both about 4 months

which hopefully gives me time

I'm getting in real late

alright, I guess no set date, so I'll just have to go for it

[clear night]

whatever gives me more time to min max is appreciated

[wide flare]

I haven't played since, like, Kalandra

[clear night]

next upgrade is about 4 mirr

[wide flare]

but man, wild that the most played skill is this Penance Brand of Dissipation, but it's also like 35 div

what do you even do until you can afford one? Just play regular Penance Brand?

actually nvm most played skill is still TS

completely unsurprisingly

[clear night]

playing both 🤝

[grizzled moon]

you dont start with a 21/20 gem

you self farm the lvl 1 or pay the 5d

[clear night]

been doing some corrupted gem lab these past few days and it's very common to get dissipation from that way

[wide flare]

ah yeah, I was looking at the wrong tab, I meant 5d to start

[clear night]

so if you're comfortable doing uber uber lab go get ur 21/20 pen brand for less than 5 divs

[wide flare]

yeah, but I always level with the build I'm planning to actually play, or as close to that as possible, which does make some builds rather hard for me to get into

I was looking over builds and thought "hey maybe this is the league I finally play an Autobomber/Wardloop character"

but nah, that build has a pretty high buy-in

maybe as a second character

I originally sort of planned for this first character to be eventually pivoted into the Wardloop character, which is why I picked a Scion build, but in the end I don't really want to respec everything and completely replace the entire build when the time comes

so I'll probably just level a second Scion at that point

the two builds as it turns out have almost zero overlap on the skill tree, despite both being Scion builds focused on casting spells

I had a good experience as Incinerate Elementalist last time I played, but I also never play the same build twice

so alas I can't play that build again

maybe if/when they release an alt-Incinerate

[desert minnow]

Is ice trap affected by spell suppression?

[lusty burrow]

it is a spell

[desert minnow]

in which lab can you exchange corrupted gem lvl 21

[late cipher]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Lord's_Labyrinth#Divine_Font

TLDR requires a dedication

[desert minnow]

so you can only exchange corrupted tf gem for another corrupted tf gem?

[late cipher]

basically yes

so if your hunting a specific lvl 21 trans gem you need to buy the cheapest 21 trans you can find and get lucky

[desert minnow]

sounds good, I don't need it now, but loooks easy to earn money by this way

[late cipher]

not necessarily as that option is not always available

[desert minnow]

not sure how many options to craft you have from dedication

yes, I tried changing gems first time when I was levelling my other char, just not corrupted one

[late cipher]

you get 4 crafting option

• 1 will always be to transform a normal gem to a random trans version
• the other 3 are random
  I believe if you use a dedication at least 1 option will be a corrupted version but its 50/50 between the normal corrupted skill and corrupted trans options

Gifts of the Goddess however do give you 6 tries at the font

think they are ~3div each though

[desert minnow]

does it transform vaal gems?

[late cipher]

I dont think so no

not 100% sure though tbh

[desert minnow]

thanks

I am still working on getting mirror in maps, but not sure what options to pick, doing legion with 100% quantity maps and double small node atlas passives also quality and effect of map modifiers allocated, got some T0(I think) item drops, but not valuable ones

got some nice drops from Eater and also simulacrum

[late cipher]

t0's are very random, some are worth a lot and some are simply not worth picking up lol

[desert minnow]

ok, ty

[dire sapphire]

Hellll yea lol

First one ever lmao

[sterile brook]

gz

[coarse plover]

I don't know if someone already explained it but I would like to hear it, can someone tell me why chaos to div exchange is lower right now?

Is it the case that chaos is more valuable or that divines are less valuable

[buoyant ridge]

divs are super common this league devaluing them

[coarse plover]

It's just the circulation is too high?

[buoyant ridge]

i'm no expert in the game's economy, but lots of divs easily obtainable, people rolling their own maps using up loads of chaos lowers how much is in circulation. there might be more to it than this, but it's how i see it

i easily blow through over 3500 chaos just trying to roll a stash tab of proj maps

[tawdry plover]

Think lot of juicers just aren't picking them up

Can grab 100 chaos a map, or open the next map and grab 2 divs instead

[hoary epoch]

share the secrets of dropping that much chaos lol

[buoyant ridge]

get a wildwood with 3k blue/yellow, easy

[hoary epoch]

7 days total play time and not so easy lol im struggling to make currency

[buoyant ridge]

I mean I guess it depends on your build. I know people were juicing T7 maps for abyss for weaker builds and pulling good loot. I myself never did that so I don't know if you can get crazy amounts of chaos that way

[coarse plover]

Yes

I've been doing that

But it's hit and miss really

If you get no juice, no loot

If you kill the spire too soon, no loot

[buoyant ridge]

no juice skip to next map and get juice is really how this league works, sadly

[coarse plover]

Well

I'm forcing mirrors so I at least finish the map so I can get deli orbs

Not sure if it's a good use of my time tho

[buoyant ridge]

honestly I don't know what your build can do so cant comment if it's the best use of your time

[coarse plover]

I'm playing guardian SRS

[buoyant ridge]

So for me I can to T14/T16 jungle valley with 6-12k juice without issue. If you can only do say 3-4k, maybe finishing the maps for deli orbs is worth it for you

[coarse plover]

On T7, once I start going past 5K juice, it starts to become a problem because the mobs start to spawn with too much health and run out my delirium timer

But still that's when I get the most drops

5k to 7k

[buoyant ridge]

Another thing you can do is make sure the mods on the maps you're running are suited for higher juice. Like no extra mob health and no extra energy shields

[coarse plover]

Going below 5K tho, I have to run away fast when I see the spire spawn or my skulls will just destroy it right away

It's really tricky doing minions on content that you need to meter out your damage

[tawdry plover]

What are you doing strat wise? Theres a handful of good strats I've seen

[coarse plover]

If I can get recommended a build that just deals damage right in front of me and only with my mouse click and also doesn't die

For cheaper, I'd like that

Idk if boneshatter is like that cuz I haven't played it

Or RF

[tawdry plover]

Boneshatter is like that mostly. When u hit enemies it will spread some aoe out between them but its nothing too massive and is only when u hit

[coarse plover]

I'm afraid of playing lightning arrow or frost arrow cuz I would just splash damage onto the spire

[tawdry plover]

Rf ofc is just a ring of dmg

Bow builds don't really do abyss. Mostly do legion+enrage strongbox

[coarse plover]

Okay

[buoyant ridge]

I league started lightning arrow and switched into tornado shot. LA was clearing T16s for me with a good tri-ele bow

[coarse plover]

Is there a good boneshatter I can buy for like 20 div or something like that

That can magic find as well?

[tawdry plover]

Can't guide u on that

Any build can mf u just need to sacrifice ur boots and rings

[coarse plover]

Ohhh

Can I just MF on my guardian tho

I have to give up

Profane proxy and a socket ring

[tawdry plover]

2 ventors gamble, and goldwyrm is all u really need. Beyond that is up to you sadimas, quant amulet, sentari shield etc

[buoyant ridge]

Giving up slots for MF is giving up power. You already said you were struggling with higher juice maps. not sure that would be great for you

[tawdry plover]

And yea, not point adding mf to just not be able to map at all

[coarse plover]

I can probably fix the power issue

There's gotta be some better clusters for my build or maybe some good charms

SRS scales with minion phys damage so I just need to get that number as high as possible really and then I'm not having issues

[tawdry plover]

Scales with minion %, flat fire, attack speed, crit etc too

You don't want to just hyper focus 1 stat

Minion version of those stat if not clear

Gem levels, accuracy maybe needed a bit

[coarse plover]

Is it worth to get as much minion accuracy as possible?

[tawdry plover]

No you likely only need a little

[coarse plover]

Okay

[tawdry plover]

You'd refer pob for this

As I think attack minions aren't accuracy capped on their own, but just couple node or precision may be enough

[coarse plover]

Also I'm sure SRS doesn't scale with crit

[tawdry plover]

I don't play minion much

Everything scales with crit unless u make it not crit

[coarse plover]

I have to check

Yeah I wrote all this down and I'll have to try this when I get home

[tawdry plover]

Np. There are some stats that will be better than others

But as you stack more and more of that stat, it's relevant gain will go down. So you need to try to spread out into all relevant stat instead

Damage is X×Y×Z

So want to spread across the multiplicative things

[noble rivet]

how do i force the game to stop giving me strongboxes and shrines back to back so i can get 8k wisps like everyone else instead of 2k

[grizzled moon]

people skip a lot of maps, they dont get 8k

[clear night]

why would you skip if its below 8k? i got 2 mirrors this league under 6k

people are weird

[south plume]

server is dying or something? 2nd time my game froze up and crashed to login

[muted root]

any1 playing in aflliction ruthless can help me lvl up?

[grave tartan]

hi by any chance do there happen to be players who played this league hc around here?

[left moon]

wdym

like strongbox and shrine events in wildwood?

No, you can't

Some maps are just bound to give you less wisps than others

[delicate phoenix]

any idea about how much longer this league is going on for?

[unreal heron]

hi guys, would like to start an aura bot and offer services: is there a channel for LFG or other that I am missing? All i see is a voice channel

[light adder]

#1┃looking-for-group

[light adder]

no date announced, at least a month left

[delicate phoenix]

thought so, thanks

[foggy whale]

wow just got 5 divines from a set of emperor's luck cards

usually get trash from them

[thorn hound]

hell yeah

[novel oyster]

anyone that wanne help with killing boss from act 3

[clever coral]

how do i know which implicit is dominant on the eternal struggle amulet? whichever is on top?

[blissful onyx]

Whichever is the higher tier.

It will say, when you hold Alt over the item, 'lesser' 'greater' 'grand' etc

[sweet night]

on trade Pro tip if you want to actually filter Eternal Struggle by dominant mods
you can use weighted sum

[clear night]

there we go, inquisitor pp brand ring 🙏

took way too many essences to get this

[foggy whale]

maybe im crazy...but i feel like there might be some kind of rarity or maybe quantity bonus you get at rest for a brief time...sort of like in WoW the EXP bonus u get when resting in town...i just feel like the first map of the day or after a long break im more likely to get high rarity items...

[left moon]

you're imagining things

That's not a thing

[clear night]

yeah nah

[foggy whale]

its not impossible that they coded a small bonus and just didn't tell anyone...tho if they did i would imagine people would have noticed by now

[tawny pasture]

that the kind of info they would have shared over the time

[foggy whale]

who knows, but u think there is nothing in the game yet undiscovered that the devs just haven't said anything about? i feel like the devs are the sort that might...not this specifically but anything

im not talking tiny obscure interactions, but something more major

[left moon]

Not with ggg I don't think

They're usually pretty open about this kinda stuff

Plus the community always documents changes felt ingame

There's a wiki, yknow

[tawny pasture]

there is probably still some vendor recipe undiscovered yeah

[thin barn]

what is going on with the eu servers?

feels like im playing on dial up

[light adder]

frankfurt pretty much always sucks, as is normal for german tech, the others are a bit hit or miss lately with routing, try some different ones

[thin barn]

ive tried frankfurt and amsterdam, both are awful..going to try milan

a lot better!

[faint ravine]

Oi, our non-internet related tech is pretty good

The Internet ist Neuland though

[stuck axle]

what builds do you think wont survive the league? I'm pretty sure nothing from the league goes core (at least I hope so) except maybe the nice QoL Bag

[lapis frigate]

does anyone have flask craft "reduced Mana Cost of Skills during Effect" ?

[late cipher]

message "MagicLagFind"

[lapis frigate]

Thank you

[empty geyser]

so best way to get some currensy when you are late to the game, and wanna do some mf? im a ranger ts.

[lapis frigate]

Harvest and focus yellow ones

I do wandering path tree for maps and take all harvest nodes

[south plume]

anyone been getting low fps today? for some reason i cant hit 60 fps today

[rocky nebula]

Is there a global chat for wildwood encounters?

[eager charm]

try 820

[sonic stirrup]

That's not mf though is it

[lapis frigate]

It's not but i thought he want money to go mf

[coarse plover]

"GGG would have told us"

[desert minnow]

why people use ice trap instead ice trap of hollowness when bossing? Because of smaller area of effect?

[maiden mesa]

how much is mb now?

[grizzled moon]

check poe ninja

[maiden mesa]

i was just curious because i bought 1 for 1 mirror shard+24 div

[grizzled moon]

seems like a pretty good deal

[desert minnow]

can you add oil to corrupted amulet?

[light adder]

Yes, but need additional tainted oil

[desert minnow]

thanks, wasn't sure if it didn't change

[sage thorn]

Replica Perfect Form
Old Flavor Text:

"Test subject battered through the hatch with her bare hands, forcing us to resort to threatening her children to restore containment."

New Flavor Text:

"This is what I've been trying to tell you. This prototype was different before. Now, it's always been this way!"
- Researcher Graven

Scuzi?

[teal thicket]

hey does any one have any hunter or war maps and breach stones i need for chall

[bleak crypt]

!rule 6

[drifting thicket]

Type !rule# to print the rule with that #. If you want to see all rules, check #rules-and-info

[bleak crypt]

!rule6

[drifting thicket]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[sonic stirrup]

Gotta be at least green to do that

[rare smelt]

Lfg anyone xp framing that I can join?!

[dusky epoch]

get a tanky build and ask for leech in global chat

you can get one for cheap like 100d

progenesis + cloak of flame/lightning coil + defiance of destiny + petrified blood

get some damage recoup as life aswell on passive tree node or just get gear with that stats

focus on defensive ability in passive tree (life, armor, evasion, ele resistance)

using MB with 3 res flask and 1 quicksilver also nice

[left moon]

#1┃looking-for-group

[clear shard]

what are some recommended items to put in my multi-base unique filter

[late cipher]

Heavy and Leather belt, skip the rest cos they aint worth shit this league lol

I still have a few uniques I can see, off the top of my head
Paula amulet, Brigandine, Nubuck boots, Scholar's Robe, Imperial dagger, Crusader Plate, Golden Plate, Rivited Boots, Ring etc

most of them are just corrupt targets though, corrupt them in map an drop them if they dont get something worthwhile

[terse dagger]

When the league ends will characters retain their wildwood ascendancy in standard? How have they handled stuff like this in the past

[devout osprey]

we dont know about the ascendencies. ill assume not because wildwood isnt going core

[silver kettle]

relying on precedent is not a great idea here, it's done case by case. there will be information about exactly what happens posted later

[terse dagger]

Removing them would significantly hamper some builds and even brick some though..

[devout osprey]

yes.

youre on borrowed extra power in leagues

[sonic stirrup]

Just another Tuesday

Doesn't really affect you directly if you only play challenge leagues

Because you can just play something new next league

[sharp shadow]

do wisp empowered mobs give more xp?

[blissful onyx]

No

[faint ravine]

That's normal.

So does any update to the passive tree e.g.

If you want your build to work in standard, shouldve played standard

[proper radish]

is it possible to build strength stacker with 4mirror at the moment?

[neat ice]

Ye, did mine with ~2 mirrors without osin tho

[uncut lintel]

Anyone playing hardcore and wanna make a chracter with me/play. Just starting now! 😄 https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1141120858115547288

[desert minnow]

there is item with two implicits, +2 to socketed aura gems and grants lv23 hatred, will be my hatred level 25 and also will be affected by enlighten socketed in this item?

[late cipher]

no, the hatred isnt a gem socketed in the item

[sonic stirrup]

(to clarify, enlighten also cannot support it, since enlighten can onto support skills from gems)

[desert minnow]

ok, thanks

[teal thicket]

hey any one here that can help me do ultimatum chall ahve to do 11 more 10/10 ultimatums

[noble python]

when GGG states "expansion" is this basically new league+mechanics or is this something more?

[light adder]

expansion = new league

so whatever they got on new stuff, uniques, skill gems maybe, challenges, mechanic, etc

[amber plume]

Any hydra spec enjoyer here?

[blissful onyx]

Not quite - an expansion is larger than a league. @noble python expansions introduce new endgame mechanics. Like war for the atlas, elderslayers, maven, etc, were all introduced in expansions.

Historically every 3 or 4 leagues is an expansion, so once per year

Once POE2 comes out we'll see what happens

[light adder]

that stopped a while ago
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25127322

[silver kettle]

this is not how we use the term, though it is a common source of confusion because there seem to be lots of competing definitions

[blissful onyx]

Oh I see, my info was outdated

[silver kettle]

if you see any of our official posts using the term "expansion", it means "large content update that includes a new league and other new/changed stuff, like you get 3-4 times per year" @noble python

[clear night]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1NcIBJr3kE

@small agate

[shell blaze]

LF King of the mists Stronghold PST!

[swift mesa]

i thought oni goroshi equips both slots

isnt he holding a sheild

nvm

[woven venture]

Is there a separate term known for core content updates then?

Like every time the way atlas endgame has shifted (thinking back to shaper elder ping pong).

[silver kettle]

not that I'm aware of but I can't imagine it's something we'd be subtle about. seems like the sort of thing we'd either market heavily or intentionally keep secret

[keen elbow]

Uber elder down after 2 portals. First ever attempt. Gg. PoE is trash

[ionic flare]

[faint ravine]

Uber elder is mostly just a DPS check, all mechanics except eldersplosion can basically be ignored. If your DPS is low you have to watch out for the poop-adds, but among the non-uber pinnacles, u-elder ranks solidly below sirus, cortex, exarch, eater and maven

[copper glacier]

Any suggestions for a build? I enjoy self-cast pack popping

[faint ravine]

Frostblink ignite is probably still a thing right?

[copper glacier]

Any strike builds?

I like "arc" as a skil type

I like molten strike, but the clear isnt the best

[faint ravine]

Any hit spell on occultist with ralakesh bage pcharge setup probably works

With a curse on hit ring or gloves

Occusplosions with the generic damage scaling from charges easily chainreact

[copper glacier]

hit spell?

what mean

[sleek obsidian]

Dem boots need a nerf or placed higher on the tier

[unborn osprey]

So i am posessed, but no achievement what did i do wrong ?

[grizzled moon]

helmet doesnt work

you have been touched, challenge is to be possessed

[light adder]

touched is not possesed, you need the atlas passive

[unborn osprey]

Ahhh, screw it

Ty

[full frost]

guys i'm very very new to the game, is lightning arrow build viable for beginner ? am i too late into the league ?

[light adder]

Yes (depends on which guide) ,
no
You can also use #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[obtuse wharf]

guys i just into mf strat things, where can i look up a better loot filter ?

[viral bane]

What do I need to get the last quest for primalist? I've seen her after i killed black morrigan but she doesn't have a quest

Is it adviced to switch to a different ascendancy and level that up as well or is it pointless if I want to use primalist?

[peak lance]

Outside of finding stricter versions, it honestly helped me to just go into a map and see what I didn't want to drop, and then remove it from my loot filter

I would use like a unique scarab so more of that drops and just tick off a bunch of low cost uniques, one way I did it

[mortal yarrow]

Kill king of the mist

[mortal yarrow]

Stay 1 ascension

[viral bane]

I did kill the king in the mist but I don't have the quest yet. Do i need to be in higher level maps?

[light adder]

T 14+ only counts

[wet plaza]

The one you need to kill is accessed via a portal

The one you encounter in wildwood is not killable and doesn't count he just drops trash and a ritual vessel when he leaves

[full frost]

hi anyone here can advice me on LA ? i'm currently level 64 totally new , currently using death harp bow and i'm struggling, what bow should i be using at this level ?

[tawdry plover]

A rare one with elemental damage mods

Adds x to y cold, fire, lightning damage

[full frost]

is it expensive ? how much do i need to pay for a bow like that ? do you have an example ?

[tawdry plover]

I mean for level 64 you can probably find something worthwhile from the ground or alching/essence a few bows

The bow u are using is a level 32 unique. Has less than half the dmg bows ur level would drop if ok mods

[full frost]

is there a decent unique bow in this game i can use for mapping ? why is always rare items ? is unique in this game really that bad ?

[tawdry plover]

Uniques are "unique" usually granting effects you can't quite find elsewhere

But other than what is unique to them, rares will generally outclass

There is not really a great unique bow no

[full frost]

oh ok .. i guess i have chosen the wrong build thanks 😄

[tawdry plover]

Theres nothing wrong with LA

Just generally uniques are not going to be best in slot items

Especially not for every slot at least

[full frost]

so i need to find a rare bow with 3 different types of flat elemental damage right ?

[grizzled moon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/Xevm70KCP

probably also need to be using the right support gems like trinity

[full frost]

thank you so much! 😄

so a 600dps elemental bow is good enough to carry me in mapping ?

[grizzled moon]

sure, its quite low still

those are examples of stuff you can make or find probably

[full frost]

so what is the ideal elemental dps for endgame ?

1k ?

[grizzled moon]

1k will take you far yes

but dont worry about it at lvl 64

[full frost]

so i will continue with my death harp bow ?

[grizzled moon]

no definitely ditch that

[tawdry plover]

Ur going to upgrade multiple times. Don't feel attached to anything u equip really

[full frost]

but if i ditch that i don have any bow lol

so i need to find a replacement though

[tawdry plover]

Yea I mean u asked what kind of things to buy, but do u even really have currency to trade? If not keep death harp until you start IDing new bows

And remember u can use the crafting bench in hideout to add 1 mod if the item has less than 6

So maybe u find +fire, +cold and attack speed. Can go add +lightning and have a decent starting bow

[full frost]

oh ok thank you so much all

i will learn some crafting ... thanks for giving me a direction

appreciated

[plucky jewel]

what are the minimum level requirements to get the chieftain stun build off the ground?

[rustic stratus]

bro WHO LET HIM COOK? (HE CANT EVEN COMPLETE TIER 5 MAP)

[rustic stratus]

@static nova

[frigid venture]

Most frustrating challenges so far but I feel empty now

[ionic flare]

Do we know if the current league mechanic will be added as standard?

[sonic stirrup]

you hop into your time machine

to find out

but yeah no

we don't know

we generally find out very close to the end of the league

[ionic flare]

Okay, will see then

[turbid sage]

What are yal thoughts on the night lotus tier 1 armor mtx compared to other tiers?

[desert minnow]

will guards are twinned accursed pact in sanctum double floor bosses?

[left moon]

does it say floor bosses, or guards?

[desert minnow]

yes guards, just wasn't sure if floor bosses aren't guards as well

got it right before Lycia, so didn't want to fight double Lycia

[desert minnow]

thanks anyway

[foggy whale]

why does king of mists non boss version always drop a ritual vessel? that just seems so random to me

[sage thorn]

Had a thought.
Now that Ultimatum's gone Core in PoE1, we can probs expect PoE1's team to spend their time on improving other things.

[sage thorn]

The short answer is that lore-wise, the King in the Mists is the one who's creating all those Ritual Altars.

[foggy whale]

i see,

[foggy whale]

i don't follow. why does ultimatum going core suggest that

[sage thorn]

Mostly based on a statement from ZiggyD's Q&A after the Affliction content reveal stream where it was... I'll paraphrase.
It was like "we could've worked on doing some improvements to Lab, but we also could spend time and resources on making Ultimatum core-ready".

Considering that 3.24 will have a private alpha to extensively playtest features that GGG think could use some playtesting, 3.24 may include some major changes to existing systens.

We went over [making improvements to Labyrinth AS A WHOLE] a lot, and it's a simple, again going back to... think of it like this: we could've done that, or we could've added Ultimatum. It's a resourcing problem. Not to say those are the two options, but what I'm saying is that it is very um... what it needs is a lot of love and we need the time to do it. So yes we had a massive list of changes of things we wanted to do and we just couldn't find the time to do it, so it is something I definitely would love to do later, for sure

-Mark "Neon" Roberts

[full frost]

hi guys i'm very new to TS is this bow ok for TS ? what gem should i go into my 6 link ? pls advice thanks 😄

[left moon]

Yeah that's a good start

[neat carbon]

Hi guys, question, are TWWT being being migrated to standard ?

[devout osprey]

i assume you mean after league? we dont know that yet.

can currently do it with HC though

[neat carbon]

Yea sorry, that’s what I meant, thanks

I assume if people have then in standard already them the ones we have should be carried over

[devout osprey]

they either get legacy, or removed

if they dont migrate

[fallow mica]

ULTIMATUM 🙂

[cerulean python]

does anyone know if there is a good magic find build i could do for 20~ div? if no then how much would i need?

[cerulean python]

if there is no good magic find builds for that budget what are good ways to get currency on a low budget?

[faint ravine]

Spec into essence plus the Alva-cluster that gives 50% chance to double upgrade rooms on upgrade and 100% chance to double upgrade on changing room, and blast white maps

You'll get a temple with catalyst or doryanis like 80+% of the time every 4 Alva maps (5-7div each) and can sell the essences in bulk

I think atoll is a white map this league and essences and temple entrances basically always all spawn on initial crossroads and the one straight ahead.

You can alch or transmute the maps If you want to for slightly more exp and natural drops, but you dont need to as they dont affect either essences nor temple

[lime stone]

Fairly sure there's really slow 1 div mf builds and decent 5-10 builds for mf

I think fulcrum chieftain is one of them?

[terse needle]

should i be able to afford a tabula before i finish the acts?

[light adder]

no, and it´s not really a good armour to use

[terse needle]

O

[junior yarrow]

@terse needle You are better of buying a 5 link with right colors that have stats than a tabula at this rate 🙂

You can easily find a corrupted with 90 res and 80+ life

Even on league start this is feasable, DEPENDING on how quick of a act runner you are 🙂

[terse needle]

Not going very fast, almost done with act 3

[junior yarrow]

then yes, you can go with that approach

[frank burrow]

playing hc ruthless affliction league if anyone wanting to join im just nearing the end of act 1 atm

[jovial estuary]

Hey, do I have to do something here ? This is something special or not ?

https://i.imgur.com/qh15VZk.jpeg

[swift mesa]

dont remember but if u killed the things theres no more wisp to collect

[terse dagger]

Anyone know at what gem level/Quality does unearth become better than Desecrate? For detenate dead specifically.

[violet nymph]

When is this gonna end?

[light adder]

End of march ish

[vast musk]

How many chaos is to 1 divine cost?

[ebon goblet]

I quit this league when my build became unplayable bcuz crashes

(note not an fps issue, but a hard freeze and crash issue)

[high fossil]

Have a look at poe.ninja to keep track of currency values

It's about 130c at the moment

[vast musk]

Thank you!

[left moon]

Play another build then?

[ebon goblet]

i wasn't interested in playing through the acts a fourth time soz

builkd 1 i knew might brick. Build 2 i knew might brick. Build 3 worked and i made sure of it before starting that it could run red maps. Come to find out the corpse was badly implemented

[hollow marsh]

I finally made it!

[icy zenith]

Pro

[raven vessel]

Anyone in HC with the 5 link craft?

[west halo]

Can ricochet affect ground target skills like molten strike balls or molten burst balls from ngamahu's?

[high fossil]

Yes, those skills can chain, so they'll chain

[sweet night]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Molten_Burst

Pierce, Fork, and Chain: Molten Burst projectiles cannot pierce, fork, or chain, since they are ground-targeted.

[long carbon]

What was the new mechanics this leauge

[honest egret]

the wildwood wisps and the wildwood ascendancies

[long carbon]

When this leauge ends does that get replaced with the new leauge mechanics

[honest egret]

yes, this leagues mechanic isnt going core iirc

so it will be gone entirely and we will get something new

[high fossil]

Have they actually announced that? It was the prevailing assumption, but i wasn't sure it was confirmed yet

[honest egret]

oh i thought they did, maybe they didnt yet

[high fossil]

Primalist backpack is just clearly too OP to persist, we all know it's coming

[viral bane]

Does the amount of whisps affect the strength of the empowered buff or does it affect more monsters with the same buff?

I mean is a primal empowered monster stronger if I have 3000 primal wisps compared to 300?

[tawdry plover]

More wisps is more strong yea

[viral bane]

Thanks!

[rare helm]

anyone know how to fix the fkn 1 abyss bug? It keeps happening to me these days. I invest 8 div into a map, get a bunch of wisps and only ONE FKN ABYSS appears... It sucks to invest so much currency into maps when this bug appears

if it was 1/20 maps I would be okay but it just keeps happening

[faint ravine]

Have you blocked all other content, or are the abyss spawns just taken by different content because the map is full of garbage mechanics?

[mossy trail]

First time with a headhunter and maps feel like a joke now

[devout osprey]

grats youve got an endgame unique

[violet nymph]

New to game on act 8

💪🏿

[long carbon]

do i just follow the blue wisps to get huntres point ?( and kill her)

[faint badge]

did I win?

[late cipher]

depends on a few things tbh, mainly how far into the quest line you are or if you've even started it yet?

[crystal siren]

witch i should pick?

[tawdry plover]

Many ppl are enjoying the primalist, the middle one

Extra bag space and then u can trade for 3 charms to fill in the extra nodes eventually

[viral bramble]

just go the right one for now

[violet nymph]

Aye I'm new to game level 65

Please give tips running necro witch

Divine ire

[noble rivet]

why do i keep getting these stupid idiot dumbass bot npc mfs that just afk in my hideout for 5 mins when they whisper me to buy something

they join and dont do anything

"oh but theyre loading" no these slackjawed drooling mfs leave when i kick them

[slim leaf]

How people not blow up the spire with chieftain? I get the weapon swap to cold point but then what?

How do you do damage to get it to spawn more or not blow it up swapping back to actually do damage?

On t11/14/16 maps. 7 is just a joke and cant not destroy it.

[storm tapir]

Well it will happen sometimes regardless. What I do - I let it ignite whilst it still hasn't spawned any portals. It spawns portals, I let perhaps 1 detonation go off, then I run 1 screen away. Kill most of the rares, run back to check it's HP. I keep changing weapons, until it goes down to about 50% HP. Taking it slow, lol. Sucks, but I blow it up if I stand still

[proud vessel]

🤌

[young pawn]

Dubs

[slim leaf]

@storm tapir ok ya.. i cant ever get to "stage" 3 of a spire. At most it spits out 2 rounds for me. On pbod it was easy af but ya

Im using dd of chaining. Is there a better one to not kill spires?

[lone swift]

back away

on the third or fourth hole just play back

you can tell when the spire appears by looking at the map, the abyss icon will disappear

if you arent already away from the spire, thats your cue to back up if you arent already surrounded

otherwise you'll need to walk up to the spire to activate it, but then back away again to let it do its thing

the enemies that pop out should leave a trail of corpses that come back to the spire anyways so you might end up killing it early either way

[left moon]

Walk away far enough and let the mobs spawn from the holes

Just put one ignite on it and then run away

Most of the time, the spire dying is out of your control from huge ignites

So you can't save em all unfortunately

[errant patrol]

Is there any trick to getting 8k+ wisps instead of 4-5k in a super juiced map? I find all events and follow fatty trails, but don't really know what I can do more than that

[late cipher]

if your finding all 4 events and only getting 4-5k total your simply getting shitty events

there is a fair amount of rng as to what events you find, some of them are terrible for wisps and some are amazing

[errant patrol]

Yea, this is current map, bit better

[late cipher]

I hit all 4 events in ~70% of maps and about 60% of those are still shit for wisps

probably see 8k+ in maybe 2-3 maps out of 10

1 thing I will say is your probably running maps that you shouldnt (if your MF)

On my MF toon I wouldnt run anything less than 5k +3 colour maps

[errant patrol]

25%+ pack size unID'ed +2 proj

[late cipher]

RNG is a huge factor, abandon the shitty maps and just run more maps would be my main advice

I abandoned 2-3 maps out of 10 usually

It does sting when your fully juicing sextants and sarabs etc but the return from the amazing maps far outweighs the cost

[late cipher]

how did this map turn out?

[errant patrol]

Still in the map, aurabot is complaining about -50k armor

[late cipher]

complaining is an aura bots job lol

[errant patrol]

but pretty juicy so far

[storm tapir]

Yup, this is so true. Ive quite often hit 3/4 events and get under 5k. Ie 2x vendor, eggs, harvest, tons of useless events lol

[strong bronze]

how can i get immune to bleed? and shield/hp regen debuffs?

[pseudo lantern]

Who wants to join doryani 5 div 3 spot left dm me if wanted

[light adder]

you might want to try a trading discord where selling stuff is not against server rules

[pseudo lantern]

where's trading discord :?

[wet plaza]

#trading

[pseudo lantern]

thanks

[nova fog]

help, pc ?

[light adder]

#price-check📉

[pale hemlock]

Not even max bench craft rarity roll

[subtle drum]

not enough rarity

[late cipher]

rarity is over rated this league imo

[crystal siren]

how close this tree? i need to up skills behind this

[late cipher]

click the little arrow bro

[celest chasm]

When does this leauge end? If its confirmed

[light adder]

"We're currently planning to launch the 3.24 expansion in late March."

[north drum]

how rare is it too find a quant amulet in heist been trying to get one as im doing heist too earn divs but havent got one in like 300 heist

[grizzled moon]

whats a quant amulet

[north drum]

i forgor what it was called but it does expilict 200% thing

[grizzled moon]

sure, its very rare, and in blueprints

luck is luck, a youtuber did 1000 and got 0

[left moon]

simplex amulet with shaper increased item quantity mod

or eyes of the greatwolf with quant

[green remnant]

I finally hit a nice corruption on my black sun that i need 🥲

[maiden mesa]

how are you able to collect that mch wisp without triggering the exit portal?

[maiden mural]

could thee help me to atleast 16? 😄 im stuck on 14

[errant patrol]

You find and use the refresh orbs

[paper hound]

well thats a lie

[sonic stirrup]

You're safe at that spot if you didn't drag enemies there

I too had this thought when I read it

Maybe the point is to show how the wildwoods have changed

[paper hound]

maybe

[fallow mica]

I could. Tomorrow/

[maiden mural]

thanks man

[dire cliff]

can someone help on t16 jungle valley with 7k wisp

[round rampart]

can someone help in maven challenge

[maiden mural]

hmu once you are up to it

[stiff grotto]

Can anyone tell me if this is worth anything even with the low I-level?

[neat ice]

No

[gentle granite]

swords dont rly care about socketed gems
attributes on weapons are not preferable
gain mana on kill is not good/enough
dmg with poison / chance to poison is niche
52-109 phys dmg is not enough

[shy mulch]

hey, anyone want to run juiced jungle valley maps? im TS MF. we split profits equally.

[gentle granite]

https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=22&ob=both&v=d&a=e&l=a&lg=15&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}
these are all the modifiers you can get on a two handed sword
lower the weight the better the modifier usually is
anyways if you can get like attack speed, phys dmg, accuracy and other modifiers like that why would anyone trade those for like extra attributes for example?
i hope this gives more context to make u see better what is worthwhile and what is not

[next epoch]

eh… beyond that, just having high level modifiers isn't enough to make an item (and especially a weapon) valuable; it needs to have modifiers which fit a build archetype, and ideally one that's good in the current meta

[gentle granite]

it was for an example but yes agreed

[vapid aurora]

just joined tft and verified my discord and got banned 2 minutes later while mapping. anyone else had this experience?

[tawny pasture]

Send them a message

Tft ban a lot of people for no reason

[coarse bridge]

Is there a date for the end of the league ?

[grizzled moon]

nothing concrete

end of march

[coarse bridge]

Okay ty

Coming back to finish challenges lol

[craggy mauve]

those third party apps/websites predict its 27 march I didnt read it wrong

[sonic stirrup]

Doesn't mean it's right

I myself think that end date of 27th is highly unlikely

But we don't know

[craggy mauve]

thats why I said they "Predict"

you can predict stuff and still be wrong

[sonic stirrup]

You probably also shouldn't show off an rmt site like that

[craggy mauve]

I mean it could be 27 beacuse the league have been for way more then its "supposed" to

and tbh who knows what I should show and not, its not anything illegal so

[light adder]

Well, that is an rmt site, which is against server rules, so it kinda is

[craggy mauve]

its kinda illegal but not illegal

and tbh I didnt really copy paste it I only took a picture of it so then if they for some reason want to google it upp its kinda their own fault

https://tenor.com/view/zero-trust-no-one-gif-22925923

[craggy mauve]

also tf it is a Real money trading site?

[neat ice]

Ye, they promote rmt shit there

But its still most useful rmt site i came across

In terms of game info it have

[craggy mauve]

yeah haha

[sonic stirrup]

Which is for the sake of creating traffic and making people aware that they exist and then getting people actually using it

I wouldn't be surprised if they steal their content

[neat ice]

I doubt avg player is interested in rmt its either super high end crafters that make that money back thru same reason or wealthy noobs that dont like to think or work themselfs

But i see your point

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah

[steady crane]

they beef it up with keyword spam too "Do you want to know what currencies are in Path of Exile, the game, come to our site we will tell you about the effects of all of the different currency items in POE Path of Exile!"

that's why they're the top result -_-

super annoying

[round warren]

Can wildwood specializations be changed after choosing?

[silver kettle]

yes, talk to the NPC associated with the one you want to swap to

[round warren]

Where do I speak to the npcs? Ive only met one so far and dont know where to find her again

[sonic canyon]

You can encounter them again on repeat visits to the Wildwood.

[silver kettle]

explore the wildwood, every time you enter there is guaranteed to be an NPC spawned somewhere

[round warren]

How does the wildwood work? Is it timed when the portal to leave spawns?

[devout osprey]

not timed. but you cant explore into the darkness anymore

[sonic canyon]

The more you explore, the more wisps you consume, causing the circle around you to get smaller. When it gets small enough, your exploration ends, and the portal spawns. You can find pick ups in the Wildwood that give you more fuel to explore with.

[lethal heath]

Was looking at path of exile when affliction League ends and I scroll down, there a link for Palworld database... I'm like what?

[sweet shell]

think it makes sense for the new league to start during the easter holidays

[sage thorn]

The guy who runs "poedb.tw" also created other websites of similar format.

Also, friendly reminder about the previous time someone interacted with Wild/Vivid/Primal/Sacred energies:

"It isn't the twisted transformative power of Corruption that makes it so dangerous. It is its ability to hide in plain sight."

[celest chasm]

Any news when next league drops?

[celest chasm]

That sucks

But alright

[dire cliff]

can someone help with 6k juiced map

my build is so fucked rn i cant do it i guess

[ebon sedge]

IDK if i can play this next league, this leagues mf has been so good, next league will be ass again.

[lone swift]

personally im not a fan of my screen being covered in loot regardless of value

[odd parcel]

anyone got a kind heart that could assist me with this ? just to barrow items even its just trash. just to complete this Challenge pls.

[lone swift]

just do enchanted veiled and influenced

shouldnt be that hard

you can enchant a flask or item

do a jun mission for veiled items

and then spec some influenced item chance on atlas for eater/exarch

or just go fight shaper/elder for influenced items

very easy items to get your hands on

[sonic stirrup]

As I said, just anoint a ring or amulet for enchantment

Veiled is literally just one Jun mission

Synth, split, or influence is easiest traded for

[foggy whale]

tried my first double corruption ever for the challenges...poofed my mageblood feels bad

i used like 10 divines on it too for the rolls

[late cipher]

Just try again, it will almost certainly be worth it 🤡

[sturdy ravine]

league was extended?

[royal sparrow]

when the leauge is gona end?

[lone swift]

middle to end of the month

[royal sparrow]

some one told me like 6 march

[royal sparrow]

they posticipied?

i don't know how to write that

[lone swift]

#old-game-news message

[errant patrol]

eyestrain the league

[wet jewel]

More like eyestrain the filter. Why is it all so bright

[errant patrol]

idk the guy who made it was colorblind

[foggy whale]

anyone know if any builds could make use of this base?

[swift mesa]

use a more strict loot filter? enkindling orbs shouldnt be showing

[tired burrow]

how much time do we have on this league?

[next epoch]

Few weeks? No precise date yet

[wanton swift]

End of the month I believe

March 27th according to google

[next epoch]

No idea where it's getting that, there's been no official announcement yet. Best we have is "late March". https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3491729

[sonic stirrup]

1-2 weeks

[lone swift]

what day do they typically do league launches

or do they just launch them whenever

[silver kettle]

Saturday 8am NZ time

[lone swift]

ty

[silver kettle]

Occasionally +/- an hour

[honest egret]

which is usually friday like 10pm eu time or around noon NA time

+/- 2h based on daylight savings time and what viper said

[onyx folio]

Hey guys, what map should I spam farm for currency and loot? I can do all maps 1-16, I'm level 89 deadeye lightning arrow

[faint ravine]

In this league you shouldnt spam farm, rather higher investment cemetery abyss abusing multiproj from purple juice, at least for maximum gains

[rugged nebula]

i wish ggg released another version of poe 1, with more balanced loot, like not ruthless level of loot, but cut down main game loot by 10 times, i dont need to find full inventory of 1 by 1 garbage every map

[errant patrol]

sounds like a stricter item filter

[neat ice]

Sounds like any alch and go strat

[desert minnow]

what will happen with charms and which was taken jewel when transferred to standard league?

[devout osprey]

we dont know yet

[sonic stirrup]

The jewel is almost certainly not going to have anything happen to it.
Charms are fairly likely to be voided, but we don't know.

[restive crescent]

Poe2

[solar narwhal]

GUYS

I'VE BEATEN AN UBER FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER

[lone swift]

nice

[left moon]

get a stronger filter or wait for poe 2

beta comes out in some months iirc

[waxen kindle]

<@&174997701513969665>

[eager charm]

ty

[quaint roost]

fun.

[lone swift]

:^))

[snow marten]

Got to love those empowered enemies. even the high dps builds sometimes can't take em

[coarse bridge]

I have a lvl 96 in hc affliction , I’ve never pushed 100 before how long would that take me ? I would like to push 100 at least one time

[rugged nebula]

poe 2 looks downgrade from poe, kind of like last epoch, less density, longer boss fights

i just want to blast

[left moon]

Then get a stronger filter bro

[rugged nebula]

doesnt help, unless i played trade but in that case id be done with league 20 times faster

[hushed wedge]

it cant be right that like half of my gold maps always seem to have reflect on it????....

why is reflect even a thing lol

[light adder]

Because you can read, and reroll mods you can't do

[faint ravine]

Iirc 97 was about the half way point?

[rugged nebula]

this league theres reflect immunity charms, put that on and you gucci

[rugged nebula]

99 is halfway

[gentle helm]

help me guys which mod should i choose T_T

[sonic stirrup]

Depends on your build

If you're not using melee skills or zombies or skeletons, the game already chose for you.

[slim leaf]

Does the dark marionet tech count as "consuming a corpse"?

[nova comet]

how long until league end?

[wet jewel]

Late march

[fathom skiff]

Hey, im new to the game and i got this jewel. Awakened PoE Trade is pricing it at 3,7 to 5,6 div. Which is more then all of my character combined i guess. Is that a realisitc price?

[restive crescent]

Sure looks like it

[violet nymph]

So annoying how GGG delays the next league by a MONTH and doesnt even do some basic end league events, not only was this league (personally) super boring from the league mechanic standpoint, but then they had to delay it by a month and not do any extra player engagement raising activities

[devout yarrow]

With them saying next league was suppose to be end of month we should have gotten the date today since they give it to us 3 week before. So probable early April now for next league

[restive crescent]

Next league is in 29th of March

[restive crescent]

League is delayed because of intense poe2 events

IRL events

Just do something else if you got bored, no reason to take it out on ggg 🙄

[lone swift]

play other games

[violet nymph]

Well, of course thats what im gonna do, GGG didnt leave me much of a choice here, but i still dont like how every 3 month league has been turned into a 4 month one, even after ggg iirc said that they will keep them 3 months long now, I understand that the amount of work they have to put into poe 2 is huge, i really do and sympathise with them, but poe 1 is their main game and is the game people play, not wait for, and it sucks how it has been suffering in its content because of poe 2 whos launch seems to be forever delayed

[lone swift]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

they're making a new game

focus is gonna be shifted

personally i'd rather them focus on the quality of poe 2 atm

[violet nymph]

Same reply here, i will play smth else, i am not taking it out on ggg i just wish they would focus more on the game that is out rather than the one they have been making for years and are nowhere near releasing

[grizzled moon]

they're fairly close, beta is out this summer and its reasonable to expect focus starts to shift away from poe 1 more and more

so while its gonna take probably until next year, i wouldnt hold high hopes for the upcoming poe 1 leagues

[violet nymph]

Oh well, in Chris we trust

[sonic canyon]

The beta is in 3 months, I'd say it's close enough to being played that it deserves some extra effort.

[rugged nebula]

wowee thats an insane jewel

[restive crescent]

it's literally 3 months away

[desert minnow]

Hi, when this league ends and new one starts?

[light adder]

When ggg announces those dates, we don't know

[runic basin]

I havent participated in this league... maybe there is still time. Has it been a good league?

[lone swift]

if you like trading dont bother

new league starts within the next 3 wks

just vibe until then

[sonic stirrup]

It's been a good league, but there isn't much time left now of it

[runic basin]

yeah i figured i could maybe do few achievements and get some of the rewards

[deft orbit]

Anyone know when the end of the league is ?

[sonic stirrup]

GGG probably knows

[restive crescent]

25th, around that

[deft orbit]

ty

[light adder]

That is a guess btw, we don't have any confirmed date from ggg

[deft orbit]

Ah

ok makes sense

[bronze cave]

At this point it is more likely that 3.24 starts in April and the league runs longer than the 25th

[restive crescent]

🙄

[limpid vapor]

I'm fine with that haha... I started super late and I'm only level 90 right now, running t16 clean now.. but I what time for the challenges

[bronze cave]

Now it's confirmed to be the 29th of march

[limpid vapor]

Nice... soooooo... who wants to help me get these challenges haha

[gloomy gorge]

wait the league is ending on 29th or the new league is starting then?

[devout osprey]

new league 29th, so current ends 25th or 26th

[gloomy gorge]

ty for thy info, is it doable to complete 20 challenges in that time....?

with no mf and almost no currency atm

[devout osprey]

gogogo

yes it is doable

[gloomy gorge]

xd, oh ok, there any guide cuz honestly im still fairly new to the game, i have a mb ss deadeye build, sorta squishy cuz i dont have alot of taken as mods yet

guide mainly for stuff like the ultimatum challenge, expedition, blight and beyond

[devout osprey]

they are straightforward most of them. id google though.

[limpid vapor]

The freaking tormented spirits one though is not going well for me... i tried to spec into the bosses surrounded by spirits atlas node...but those they just become instant uber bosses with super speed one shots.

[devout osprey]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BxFOGJ_y2vn4c0msKOFayHMWvBGG_3WQej-LhDPjBoA/edit#heading=h.8mjl0btwogle

[coarse bridge]

first time playing hc this league and i hit lvl 100. is 7/7 ubers in hcssf before poe2 a realistic goal?

[sonic canyon]

You have 3 months until PoE2, so I'd say it should be possible.

This league will be ending near the end of the month, though.

[coarse bridge]

so theres 1 more league until poe2?

[devout osprey]

closed beta for poe 2 is in june

so for that its 1, but for release of poe 2 who knows

[light adder]

And there will be more poe1 leagues after 2 release aswell

[coarse bridge]

okay cool thats what i thought thanks, ill practice some ubers in sc in the meantime until next league

[limber turret]

Challenge leagues will be different for poe 1 and poe 2**

So yes, both will get leagues

Both will get their separate dev teams working on them

Just like they have right now I assume

[brave glade]

when does league end?

[grizzled moon]

around the 26th

[peak blaze]

The supporter packs that came here with affliction are under "Core", that mean theyre here until the end of the year?

[shell grove]

Does anyone here know is Susara (Brinerot warband) spawns in affliction delve at the Brinerot locations?

[vestal swift]

whats a good caster build for a newer player?

[high fossil]

Detonate Dead Elementalist has a good guide and a lot of power

[tidal swan]

Man I just got done experiencing end of league charity like no other this guy gave me so much stuff and I just had to get off cause I was to dumbfounded to play anymore

By the way I'm a new player so I am quite literally befuddled cause I haven't gone past act 3

Everyone In this community are so nice I swear

[marsh meteor]

is it possible to play penance brand of dissipation pathfinder without a mageblood and kill ubers?

[neat ice]

Yes

[forest remnant]

Is it possible to sell Trialmaster kill? I saw someone selling it a while back, but I thought you needed to have been in the trial when it started?

[light adder]

you need a char that can just afk tank everything sassmaster does in the fight so you can invite people once he spawned

[forest remnant]

I see. and people can enter the trialmaster arena?

I gotta find someone selling him.

Prob the most annoying challenge.

I've seen trialmaster like twice, and he 1shot me both times. (i think he sapped flask buffs?)

[light adder]

he still got any ulti mods you got in the rounds

[forest remnant]

was easy mods.

[woven venture]

Core supporter packs stick around until the next big release. In times past this meant when the atlas was completely redesigned. But regardless how long it is, they give a large head's up when they are going to be removed from circulation.

[sonic stirrup]

I'm pretty sure it's just exactly one year

Well, ±a month or so to match up with the league release dates iirc

[rain oriole]

devs giving us little bit amount of reveal each day till 21 th big reveal. just like feeding a heroine junkie. we are craving day by day untill golden shot

[limpid vapor]

I just always hope for new build mechanics, not really a fan of "currency" league's

[golden ruin]

HC chat?

[rain oriole]

@limpid vapor affliction was both of at the same time. but ngl inflation was really disgusting and i didn't like it.

[limpid vapor]

Yea... but the Charms are just soooooooooooo useful for anything off-meta. Stuff like Cluster Jewels, Timeless, Catalysts., Amulet Annoints.. these types of additions are really top notch. Don't really care for like the Ultimatum stuff where it's just a currency generator.

[rain oriole]

wildwood ascendencies are really good and build enabling. At the same time too powerful for meta builds too much powercreep

[limpid vapor]

meta builds need to be done away with though. Literally like 85% of skills are in a state of disrepair in this game. They just need to smash meta builds, or upgrade other skills. I personally believe the 85% case should outway the other 15% skills, and they should just focus on bringing the 15% under control rather than leave absolutely massive swathes of their skills basically unplayable. Wildwood is a huge boon for the 85%... I don't think it should be killed because the perpetual skills that never get nerfed are still sitting there.

[rain oriole]

i think problem is design wise of skills. imagine tornado shot and you have hundreds of projectiles... And sunder strike or blade flurry. TS has ranged property too for safety. How u should balance them?

e.g. we limit how many max proj a skill can has, or other limitations. But with this limits poe can still be poe?

They buff melee skills by adding area or adding extra utilities on them.

imho unlimited proj is bad for players,server and for our PC s

if we limit those meta skills with hard cap so we align them with others

imagine dotcap nomatter how much your dps , it is still limited and this limit is enuf to clear all content. But poe engine should be so gigantic at that point and ikd ist it possible to implement such things

[limpid vapor]

Yes... Limit them... smash them down, and then slowly bring them back up.

As well... I think they've just missed the boat on a lot of utility supports for melee. Like generally... Fortify is really nice, but not super acessible on the tree for a myriad of classes, and the support gem isn't very good.

[rain oriole]

yeah but not by only nerfing damages, nerfing their imba aspects

[limpid vapor]

Maybe.. but I would be okay to start with nerfing damage to get them under control... then work on tweaking things to a good place. I'm completely okay with TS being unplayable for a couple of seasons.

[rain oriole]

imagine adding a line to TS fire projectile no more than 3 tonsplit each ni more than 5

Try to balance them via dps is not working efficently as we understood, and keeping under control probably wastes many resources too.

[limpid vapor]

For me, melee has, and continues to be an issue. But it's not honestly that difficult an issue IMO. For whatever reason GGG just doesn't seem to want to approach it well.

There's a myriad of utterly useless utility supports that are never going to be used without damage modifiers. But stuff like Fist of War is a step in the right direction.

How about we get some QoL on Ruthless counter and actually sync it with more skills and supports.

Move Melee Splash to attack mastery. Give Melee Splash support a heavy modifier inline with brutality IF the skill it supports is single target. Make ancestral attack (or whatever, give actual offensive stats). Fortify needs to better. Stun support is useless... knockback is dumb... there's just all these useless support gems for melee, and on top of everything, there's not really much in the way of melee defense boost skills that aren't linked specifically to a shield.

[rain oriole]

fuk their overqualified aspects and olayerbase gonna cry like little biches, no worries they will play after whining

it is sadge to confess but d4 handles melee is way better than poe

you don't feel bad when play melee compare to other classes. Or a class compare to another

they added too kuch skills for sake of adding them i think

Maybe for increasing build diversity for those underwhelmed support skills

imagine we have one third of skill pool but all of them olayable it would be better righy?

[limpid vapor]

There have been some decent ideas here and there though. Things like Wild Strike of Extremes is a good idea... allows you to not need to pump into resist lowering, and focus on penetration and raw damage increase.

[rain oriole]

Sorry typos i m on mobile

i was coming there... Probably they realised problem and started to fix it. Transfigured gems is uniting many unused aspects and centralise for better versions

[limpid vapor]

I don't think the problem is the skills themselves, it's the lack of useable supports. If things like Knockback/Stun/Melee Splash had competetive damage modifiers, it would allow melee to spec more into defensive on the tree and not invest so heavily into passives that essentially do what they do, but don't massacre your overall DPS by taking.

[rain oriole]

and if i know ggg eventually they will work on transfigured support gems

Or auras too

Yeah after those many changes, it can be hell to change something over there bcoz we don't see the backend of codebase

all of em related to resource and cost to fix

[limpid vapor]

For example, Vigilant strike should have a REALLY massive modifier. Something like 440% at level 20.. instead of basically being the same as Ground Slam of Earthshaking. Then have Melee Splash with a 30% more melee modifier on it. Now invest into endurance charge sustain and you can have a semi defensive build with really good damage output and the skill is fixed. But instead its just left as a disaster.

Melee Splash being a mastery and just doing away with melee splash support is also a fundamentally good idea.

[rain oriole]

and each season pressures dev team for new things rather than comprehensive balance changes

Yeah vigilant strike has a trans version?

[limpid vapor]

That's because they've pussed out on every actually slamming the meta stuff.

[rain oriole]

i don't olay melee lol. i forget last time i played a melee build

[limpid vapor]

I'm doing ground slam right now. It's "okay"... but I'm capping out around 3.5M DPS and I'm only semi survivable. I can do non-ubers okay. And the 3.5M dps is reliant on Berserk and warcries

[rain oriole]

Eventually they will handle all skill pool to adjust

hmm it is on lowside as dps i think. But it is depending on how much you pushed it ofc

and another big problem is they adjust difficulty around meta builds, so they add toughness on meta build dps etc. And this hits hard off meta builds bcoz they are already underpower

[limpid vapor]

The thing I'm potentially most excited for in PoE2 is actual skill rotations. There's like 2 playstyles in PoE currently... mash 1 skill for damage at range.. or mash 1 skill for damage in close. It would be nice to have skill combos be "slower" but with bigger hits.

Like why is it that a Hexblast and Despair/Impending Doom double 6 link maxes out at like 1.2M damage? That seems absurd considering you're rotating self casts. Those should be hitting at like 3-4M of a single activation with near max gear and gems.

[limpid vapor]

Exactly... that's why meta builds need to just be nerfed into oblivion when it comes to damage... and then brought back up via small numbers increases and reworks.

[rain oriole]

Yeah as poe playerbase we became speed addicted junkies. i can't play leagues as old days. i m boring too early on seasons. We need poe2 to change mindset of playing ARPG and turn to roots again

Luckily they develop poe2 with this mindset, at least they explained that way

Those interactions seems promising skill combos etc

With full controller support we can experience really different game

Or WASD

[limpid vapor]

The thing is.. I'm fine if certain builds play with massive speed and clear better. But there needs to be more supports like Fist of War that rotate around massive damage on longer intervals. It's okay to have multiple playstyles, but there's absolutely nothing positive about going those routes right now. You need to invest 100s of Divs to get a build that's not exlipicitly speed based to actually work... not even be efficient.. but just generally work and be usable.

[rain oriole]

And we have roll too. Just need a fkn stamina bar and pose etc as attribute to path of dark soul

Speed begets speed.

We need to tone down, all content pushing us for getting faster

We calculate every fkn aspect of game as div per hour ,map per hour ... at some point we missed enjoyment of progression i think

As i said we became dopamine addicted junkies

idk is it possible but off meta players should feel similar level of enjoyment as top meta build one, what i mean is they should'nt feel bad playing with them. Bcoz they start bad at the beginning bcoz of inherint disatvantage. idk how is it possible or not

[limpid vapor]

See... not me. I'm still fine playing slow. The problem isn't that non-meta skills are too slow... it's that they're straight up not useable. The damage is too low, and there's zero compensation for being slower... you don't get better defense.. you don't get better damager, your clear speed is worse. It's just all around bad outside a certain subset of skills that seem perma-strong

Its an entirely different genre, but GGG should look to games like League of Legend and decide upon build "archetypes" and try to balance from there. Bruisers, tanks, assassins, AD Carry, support... and hybrids of them. Right now... everything either needs to be an AD Carry or it sucks... some tanks are playable, but not great

[rain oriole]

Yeah you are right you hit weak, you expose yourself damage bcoz you are melee, your dps area is smaller

Ranged has screens of clearing and freezing provides strongest defense, you hit hard. Something is definetly wrong

[limpid vapor]

I remember that people didn't exactly love the "stat stick" weapons era. But maybe giving melee weapons a free defensive modifier for 7 affixes would be a good compensation and then combe through the "spell" tag and gate most of them to wands or staffs.

[rain oriole]

diablo 3 handled this as melee classes takea 30 percent less damage lol

[sonic stirrup]

Fortify exists

And essentially does that

Melee builds take 20% less damage from hits

At a very low opportunity cost

[rain oriole]

Fortify is not preventing everything if i remember well

Like dot etc

[sonic stirrup]

I did say hits

[limpid vapor]

Yea.. but foritfy isn't easy access for 2 of the 4 potential melee classes... and Fortify also requires you to actually hit to activate it... which sounds fine, but can be an issue against pinnacles when you're dodging for 6 seconds straight. Fortify support tends to plain not be worth it on a primary damage skill too.

[rain oriole]

i ' m not sure. And need investment to reach it on tree

[sonic stirrup]

It's only a small investment generally to reach it

And in this league you can even grab it from charms

[rain oriole]

Yeah not much of an investment

[limpid vapor]

Not from ranger or long neck dude (never play him)

Fortify is okay... but it feels like it's down too often when you need it.

[sonic stirrup]

17 passives to grab it from ranger mmm

[rain oriole]

And maybe it provides all kind of damage prevention it will be better ofc

[sonic stirrup]

20 for templar huh

[limpid vapor]

IF melee damage effectiveness was tuned better you'd be able to make a larger investment like that, but it's currently not tuned high enough to go 17 nodes away.

[rain oriole]

But still can use fortify support right?

Or charms etc

[limpid vapor]

Which isn't in a great state IMO

[rain oriole]

there was a tatoo like melee hits fortified

[limpid vapor]

You can cluster Overlord.. but I believe that's only on Megalomaniac now. Which can be expensive for a good rolled one.

[rain oriole]

On tota

[sonic stirrup]

Or a cluster, though cluster only for Maces, Sceptres or Staves

[limpid vapor]

I think it's also disabled outside of Megalomaniac now too.

[sonic stirrup]

Can also always grab the body armour eater implicit

[limpid vapor]

Two relatively simple changes that would help a ton of melee skills and builds would probably be putting fortify at a base of about 10 seconds, and moving melee splash to mastery.

[rain oriole]

hello guys anybody pushing 40/40 challenge?

[sterile brook]

There's a good Discord for people shooting for 40/40 called Global 4040, it has the /global channel of the same number

https://discord.com/invite/EBfPSCfa65

[rain oriole]

ohh thanks

[quartz otter]

So when dose current leauge end?

[light adder]

march 25/26 on pc, like a week later or so on console

[quartz otter]

Thanks man

[violet nymph]

will affliction be going core? do we know?

[light adder]

we don´t know, but imho wouldn´t expect it to

[violet nymph]

aw, i really liked the new gems it gave though

[light adder]

those are core

[violet nymph]

damn, i have not been reading close enough then

thats awesome

[eager charm]

affliction is the wisps/ and related bosses

trans gems are core

[sonic stirrup]

Affliction is also the wildwood ascendancies and their related items

Which very well might not go core

[light adder]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25263594

[violet nymph]

🇫

[rain oriole]

those spectres waere good.. RIP

[south plume]

why tf are they removing that which was taken? Great, fuck the game, im not playing poe1 anymore. Literally made the whole league pointless. This is some real poor decision making

[rain oriole]

@south plume it is way more powerful then it should be

[south plume]

and?

[rain oriole]

he will be wrecked

and it deserves really hard that hammer

[south plume]

cool, ascs and charms are gone, that was likely to happen, but deleting the jewel probably gonna stop most people who were planning to play standard from playing at all

[rain oriole]

don't be mad. it was fun and it is gone. wait for next imba things.

[south plume]

nah, fuck the game

i already have to deal with the balance against melee being utter dog, and now its gonna be even worse

[rain oriole]

dude pasically twwt gives 2 assendencies that you don't even allcocate anything

[south plume]

yes and?

what is the problem?

its not passing on to the next league

[sonic stirrup]

??? It's not deleted. It's legacy.

[rain oriole]

problem is they should keep powercreep under control

[sonic stirrup]

You can still use your jewel in standard

[rain oriole]

and i don't think standart is their focus

[light adder]

it´s not, and good they are not balancing around the few people playing there

[south plume]

wdym? arent they removing it entirely?

[sonic stirrup]

Bruh

Did you read it

It doesn't drop anymore

But existing jewels aren't deleted

[south plume]

ok, im fine with it then

[rain oriole]

@south plume dude are u standart player? if it is they didn't mention specifically gonna delete Twwt jewel from standart. don't worry

[south plume]

[rain oriole]

but you won't see it in season and it is really good to prevent it from season

[south plume]

oh yeah i dont care about season so im fine

[rain oriole]

standart is already fkn mess enjoy more mess over there 😛

[south plume]

this was supposed to be my last one

i do wish i could keep the ascs but it is what it is

[rain oriole]

@south plume you are asking much i guess.. 😄

[south plume]

its standard

[rain oriole]

yeah but you always think about player perspective.

you don't see backend code structure

[south plume]

whos perspective? most ppl play in leagues

[rain oriole]

nah.. sometimes keeping or maintaining something is damn so hard for dev side

i don't think main concerns is power creep for adding ascendencies to the standart honestly

[south plume]

maintaining how? its not like they have to patch the ascs for balancing or something

[rain oriole]

imagine you add something and it causes bug with new those trees?

[south plume]

at best it would probably just be a worry an error might pop up for having wisp mods without wisps

[rain oriole]

you need to test extensively

[south plume]

yeah but they add these things to league not standard

[rain oriole]

nahh i just started my gamedev journey dude.. it is way more then that

[south plume]

yeah, i finished uni. its complicated but not to that extent

[rain oriole]

just think they meddled too much with metamorph each season and now gone

are you sofware dev?

[south plume]

metamorph was just a bad core mechanic, not a legacy system

[south plume]

game dev

[rain oriole]

if you are a game dev and talking like that , i can't say anything more. good louck on your journey

simply they need extra source to keep under radar each league when season ends.

yeah maybe it would'n be that hard or nuked anyway

your precious twwt is there np 😛

[south plume]

youre talking about technical debt. That would only apply if they are building a system atop a system. Affliction ascs are not something they would build atop of

that was my point

(had to google what it was called in english; not my first language)

[rain oriole]

this is not future proof. what if they want to develop similar league like 3 more ascendensies?