nevermind its working now. all images on the wiki were gamepedia logos. weird
#wiki
static fulcrum
exotic pecan
I know this is more of a technical phone issue, but does anyone know how to reactivate mobile view on the poe wiki when used on phone? It swapped randomly, button doesnt work and googling gives no info
Tried adding "?device=mobile" to the end of url after some more googling, but still doesnt work
covert slate
exotic pecan
It worked! ๐
flat eagle
Mana Cost is missing https://imgur.com/luaIn4b
copper basin
The wiki crafting bench is outdated. It lists 1 exa cost for +1 to minimum endurance charges on rings, but it's 1 div
Probably the same holds for the other +1 mininimum thingies
placid gust
ok this is a random question but Has any one else had the wiki leak memory?
laptop fan was spinning up so I checked chrome's process manager and 2 of the wiki tabs were taking 4GB and 3GB memory resp.
stone crater
if you using ad block on it, it may load hundred fail ads in seconds.
placid gust
ooooh good ponit
bleak comet
@eternal crater ^^^ This doesn't seem intended, right?
eternal crater
if it happens again and you can, please record a screencap video of the ads, chrome process manager, and the network tab showing all the activity
solemn storm
What is the standard way to convert and upload dds to the wiki?
solemn storm
nevermind found it.
lime belfry
will wiki ever have mechanical changes added to items? for example shimmeron changed to affect you even from traps and totems
solemn storm
Version Changes
3.4.0
Shimmeron now deals 200 Lightning damage per second per Power charge (down from 400). Using a Divine Orb on an existing copy of this item will update that item to new these values. Shimmeron will also deal that damage to you if your skills have dealt a critical strike recently, rather than just you. That means you will take the damage if any skill (including a trap, totem, or mine) deals a critical strike.```if you would like to elaborate on that you're welcome to in the Mechanics section
lime belfry
Oops, I missed that somehow, thanks
short heron
can someone edit stuff on poe wiki here or smth ?
cuz i just got headhunter through blood altar and theres no info about that on the wiki
Got it through transform this unique into another unique
solemn storm
@short heron Anyone can make an account and contribute to the wiki.
Regardless, on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Beastcrafting it reads
If an item is created, the resulting item level is equal to the level of the main beast sacrificed. Recipes that create unique items can generate league-specific uniques.
Headhunter is a league-specific unique.
congrats on your outcome!
solemn storm
Are cargo-tables required to be autoupdated by pypoe? Or can I create a cargo tables, for things like spirits, shrines, and crafting bench options, by doing a one time dump? @grand magnet
grand magnet
No, data needs to be written via cargo_store into the tables so it isn't as straight forward as dumping. It is preferred that things can be automatically updated if it is possible
for the things it you listed it would be, though not sure we actually need tables for spirits and shrines
solemn storm
thanks for the quick reply! I am inclined to agree about spirits and shrines, depends if they decide to keep adding to them - for now ill just write a small script interfacing through pypoe to create wikitables for those.
For something like craftingbench options, what all is required to get things to be automated? Do I need to write a module for pypoe_exporter, and a lua script for the wiki?
grand magnet
yes to both but I can do it this week for the crafting bench options at least
if I renember correctly some of info wasn't straight forward like the locations though hence why the wiki had just a normal table inititally
solemn storm
awesome, much appreciated. I can look into unlock locations more if desired
flat eagle
i get that too on the main page
have to use sub link to access the website
solemn storm
is there a way to view all the broken links on the wiki?
solemn storm
sick thanks.
solemn storm
is there an official place to request a page get deleted?
raven bluff
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Delete looks like the process
solemn storm
@raven bluff thanks! one last question-is there a better way to rename a page than deleting it and recreating it?
raven bluff
Yes, but I don't know if normal users have the perms to move pages on this wiki
wait, no I was wrong ๐ looks like you should be able to move pages https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:ListGroupRights
flat eagle
Item acquisition is broken on gem pages.
strange saffron
what happened css or is it ok?
grand magnet
if item acquisition isn't showing consider null-editing the gem page
@solemn storm the crafting bench options are now on the wiki in an exportable manner
solemn storm
@grand magnet looks fantastic
rich widget
Can we talk about article naming conventions for just a moment?
Take this article, for example: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_two_hand_axes
"List of two hand axes" is the article name. On the wiki we try to follow the convention of using sentence case for article names, unless they are describing proper nouns. Therefore any of the following would be acceptable: "List of two hand axes", "List of two handed axes", "List of two-handed axes". On the other hand, "List of Two Handed Axes" is not correct. The article name is describing a list, not a named thing in game called "List of Two Handed Axes".
solemn storm
I really don't think one should consider two-handed axes or two hand to be correct, considering the in game use (via affixes) is two handed
I was not aware of that case protocol though-which seems to suggest List of two handed axes should be correct.
bleak comet
Pretty sure all variants of two-handed is used somewhere. See Reave for an example for One-Handed Swords in the description, One Hand Sword is the item class.
quiet idol
There is a line on bladestorm missing "Base duration is 3.00 seconds"
solemn storm
@bleak comet Great point about the gem descriptions, I had not seen that.
@grand magnet Where is an official list of item classes?
Do you mean this? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_class
grand magnet
yes
solemn storm
Awesome thanks for all the information on naming conventions y'all!
hard heath
does anyone know how to extract files from the game? trying to get new images for the wiki
raven bluff
what kind of images are you after?
radiant summit
wiki ads are contextual
you can report the ad
most ad services just use something like google adsense which determines what ads to show based on context, there will be poe RMT adds on most poe websites with ads enabled
but reporting the ad helps
fading loom
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Topotante,_Architect_of_Storms "two-handed meele"
solemn storm
@fading loom added a proper table, currently doesn't list which item classes each mod will show up on.
fading loom
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Icestorm strategy has the wrong cast time example
topaz garnet
what server to join
broken star
shouldn't the dps calculation for Dyadus include the fire damage or cold damage that you get depending on which hand its in
grand magnet
it's a known issue but unlikely to be resolved any time soon
I could do some band aid like only using one of the damage types, but i am not happy about such a solution
flat eagle
Can someone add "Upgrades from" to Incursion room pages?
raven bluff
from an organizational perspective, I wonder if it might not make more sense to have one page for each type of incursion room, rather than one for each level
tiers 1, 2, and 3 of an incursion room are all fundamentally similar -- they've got the same basic layout, same boss, often the same type of rewards
also curious if anyone has mapped out the relationships between room types and t0 rooms ๐
rich widget
@raven bluff I agree that we should have articles that describe all three tiers of each type of room. There might also be merit to keeping the individual room articles, but I'm not sure.
turbid finch
why it doesnt say if its 1 or 2 handed? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Storm_Prison shitty wiki
radiant summit
@turbid finch its a wand...
turbid finch
its a wand that takes 6 slots and looks like a staff
its obvious to think it might be 2 handed
radiant summit
you linked storm prison
turbid finch
and wiki is to teach about it
radiant summit
what do you mean it has six slots
turbid finch
in inventory
at least that how it looks like on poe.trade where i found it
clicked wiki to read about it
radiant summit
no it doesn't lol
turbid finch
well, then poe.trade is shitty too https://i.imgur.com/8ID88zT.png
turbid finch
doesnt make wiki better
turbid finch
wow great help to beginners!
rich widget
@turbid finch It's unnecessary to state how many sockets an item has, unless it's an exception to the rule. Wands always have 3 sockets, as described in the article about sockets. (Wands are one-handed weapons.)
karmic plinth
Got a request for you guys
The wiki page for catarina, master of undeath, subsection "safehouse", has a generic text about rewards and benches
Can we update that to say that it contains the relevant reward from each of the four current division leaders?
robust plume
no
solemn storm
@karmic plinth yeah, feel free to make an account and add it!
karmic plinth
I have one, have honestly struggled with POE wiki editing in the past was hoping ppl could do it more easily
solemn storm
err sure, just pm me the relevant info
wet willow
yyhhhh
upper carbon
@turbid finch don't blame others for your mistakes or your inability to read "storm prison carved wand" with another word wand right under its name
turbid finch
Oh, sorry i dont know Path of Exile from A to Z. It's like i was trying to use wiki to find information. How stupid of me!
this is how 2 handed weapon looks like https://i.imgur.com/bhGxZgP.png
this is how 1 handed wand looks like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255636480016252928/603343238002376734/unknown.png
and this is how that unique item looks like on peo.trade https://i.imgur.com/5dpToLy.png
if you dont see possible confusion then you are not the sharpest tool in shed
radiant summit
yeah its just the way poe.trade displays 1 handed weapons. Its a third party program, it's not going to match up exactly
storm prison from the official trade website
everyone understands the confusion, nobody understands why blame the wiki for the confusion
urban storm
steady minnow
Noticed this revision today, it seems to be incorrect: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Leper's_Alms&type=revision&diff=559607&oldid=536880
tribal eagle
Hmm
proven panther
on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Query_stat_related_skill_gems it says the where parameter "Can be specified alternatively to stat_id_query to provide your own where clause (i.e. for multiple stat ids)" .. but I don't know what the structure of the skill gem database looks like, so I have no idea what column name I'm supposed to use to check the skill ids
{{Query stat related skill gems
|type=support
|where=skill_stats_per_level.id="skill_effect_duration"
|stat_page=duration
}}
is my best guess for matching a single stat id with the where parameter, but it returns zero results
nevermind, figured it out
had to use Special:ViewData to dig through the table manually and figure out what the exact ids were
{{Query stat related skill gems |type=support |where=skill_stats_per_level.id="skill_effect_duration_+%" OR skill_stats_per_level.id="skill_effect_and_damaging_ailment_duration_+%" |stat_page=duration }}
bleak comet
@proven panther I like using Page values(https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Reave&action=pagevalues) when I'm looking for fitting where-terms to use for a specific item, it's in the Tools sidebar to the left.
The Cargo field skill_stats_per_level.id is defined by the |levelX_stat1_id parameter in the {{Item}}-template.
If you want to see all the where-terms available for querying there's https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:CargoTables.
flat eagle
This is an RMT website https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Diablo_Player's_Guide_to_Path_of_Exile&diff=562542
radiant summit
@flat eagle what are you linking to
oh i see
in the revision
thanks i've removed it
limber nova
fellas how is it that the league is almost over and we still dont have attack speed modifiers for melee gems
i've got all the gems in my inventory but the template doesnt have a field for attack speed and i dont know how to make one
static fulcrum
ha i just came here to ask about that as I got notified somebody edited the lacerate page for the attack time change. But dang that was 4 days ago and nobody said anything.
anyone know how to do this? like lacerate has a "60% of base" attack speed. do you just set it as 0.6? or scourge arrow as 1.9?
no that would be wrong
yeah i dont know. cant put % in there either
static fulcrum
@grand magnet i was testing it to see if it work (clearly it doesnt). i think the bot took over now though.
potent turtle
IDK if this is a poewiki thing or a global gamepedia thing, but having the wiki open at smaller widths sometimes does weird stuff to the topbar....let's see if it'll let me put this clip here...
...yes but no embed....that's probably for the best. I'll just leave this for one of the people that actually knows this wiki....y'all have some complex backend stuff set up and I know when to leave well enough alone.
rich widget
@potent turtle Yikes...
potent turtle
Ya, it's not the most consistant thing in the world either. And I'm probably an edge case, my primary reading 'monitor' is a 50" so reading things at that width is fine. But it's definitely derpy enough that someone smarter than I should dig into it.
rich widget
@potent turtle Well, I think I might have found the cause. The script that collapses the tabs seems to go crazy when negative margins are used anywhere. So I just need to rebuild the nav tabs without using negative margins anywhere, somehow.
potent turtle
Eeeeew, that sounds like the kind of change that could break something else pretty easily. If I'm the only one to notice it it's probably an edge case anyway....I tend to find/cause those, so don't sweat it too much if it looks like it will.
I mean, there's a reason I have like a dozen different OBS setups for capturing various things, I break a lot of things...mostly accidentially.
rich widget
I'm fairly confident that I can fix this without breaking other things.
rich widget
Should be fixed now. You might need to clear your browser cache to refresh the stylesheets.
potent turtle
That's done the trick. And it doesn't seem to have changed the bars original behavior at all. Invisible fix is best fix. ^_^
flat eagle
Can someone add Harbinger flavour text to the wiki? https://poedb.tw/us/area.php?c=Harbinger
bleak comet
@flat eagle No need for an admin to fix a table, feel free to edit it.
rich widget
@flat eagle Do we know what the harbinger glyphs mean?
flat eagle
@rich widget I don't think so.
rich widget
@flat eagle That's odd. The page isn't protected.
@flat eagle How is the flavor text for Harbinger items represented in the game data?
bleak comet
@flat eagle Have you not logged in? There should be nothing special about this page.
flat eagle
@rich widget I don't know anything about game data.
dim ingot
well isn't that cute, but it's wrong https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ornate_Quiver
hard summit
has the wiki been vandalized? I could have sworn there were uniques for this quiver type listed on that page
primal tree
There was at least one unique I distinctly remember being added, and five corrupted uniques can be traded for a base, so logically it must exist? Unless it was all a mass fever dream.
Im not sure I see anything wrong with the page
primal tree
I see it listed on there on my phone
rich widget
plush token
Sry
jagged crow
wiki down?
grand magnet
gamepedia servers have issues it seems
jagged crow
reddit is also having issues, must be some host
grand magnet
it seems like a problem with AWS
vapid fog
hey, yesterday someone changed the page for watchers eye. And removed the modifer list.
The list is now only in the item discription , its nice to have it there, but its way to unclear and clustered to proberly read it.
could someone maybe revert that change?
(no clue how that works)
rich widget
I'll second that. I'd like to see the mods listed out in the article.
rancid fern
is there some official data for item classes, basetypes etc somewhere which is not the wiki? (as I don't really trust it to be accurate)
solemn storm
What kind of information are you looking for
rancid fern
well I was planning on doing a node/network based filter system for shits and giggles
for setting item filter color palettes that is
solemn storm
https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE/blob/master/data/base_items.json
Let me know if you're looking for some information thats not in there
rancid fern
splendid! looks promising, thanks a lot
solemn storm
if you check in on launch day it should have the updated base types as well
rancid fern
it doesn't seem to have incubators in it as of now though
vast palm
Can anyone here edit some supporter information? please let me know or dm me
grand magnet
just a fyi I'll remove the old resonators
the new ones seem to be identical except stackable
flat eagle
Errors on dagger and staff uniques https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Pledge_of_Hands
bleak comet
Probably something to do with the new Rune daggers and Warstaves item classes? @grand magnet
grand magnet
they need to have their item class changed to the new one
if they are using one of the changed bases
bleak comet
How come we don't copy/paste the the class from the base item?
grand magnet
it is used to narrow down the results when searching for the base
oh also a lot of the parsing depends on the class being present
jaunty dome
.
mint thunder
i noticed there was a support gem compatibility section on the pages of decoy totem and rejuvenation totem. i went ahead and removed the link to Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance (now Elemental Army) on both as it no longer applies to totems ... if anyone cares.
shut valve
I just dropped the heroic shot in the solaris temple, does that mean it gets dropped in similiar themed maps as well?
grand magnet
no
it is possible, but only add it to areas where you actually had the card drop. No assumptions
hoary root
"failed to join instance" - on lab GREAT!
flat eagle
Bone Armour and Contaminate skills need to be added https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bone_Barrier https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Sporeguard
solemn storm
@grand magnet will the base type changes (mana flasks) be automatically updated or should we do that by hand
alpine ice
"Vile Power" Divination card - Drops in The Rotting Core, Act 9
lunar quest
wiki should be fixed asap ( this is happening everywhere in many pages )
grand magnet
then go fix it and update the passive links to the new ones
gleaming knoll
"Nook's Crown" Div Card -> Master Mind
"The bargain" Div Card -> It that fled
i have no idea how to add this. i dont want to ruin the pages.
bleak comet
I'm sure someone will fix it if you break any pages.
split aspen
Since i dont know where else to ask, can i buy huntsman + madcap weapon effects and combine them into transcendence weapon effect or is that not a thing?
jolly mantle
can anyone help me with the wiki cargoquery api? im trying to join tables, but im getting an error by doing this:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/api.php?action=cargoquery&tables=divination_cards,stackables&join_on=divination_cards._pageName=stackables._pageName&where=divination_cards._pageName=%22The%20Poet%22&format=json
grand magnet
You need to specify the fields you want to select, by default it tries to select _pageName
which is why it gives you that errror
can use _ fields fine just not as output for some reason, need to alias them like so
jolly mantle
oh, i see, thank you so much
quick jasper
Hey, just a heads up 
I've no clue how to edit those tables to filter the cosmetics out so I'm putting it out here
bleak comet
link please
quick jasper
bleak comet
fixed
arctic igloo
Hi, can anyone edit Vagan's rewards in Immortal Syndicate's safehouses (I somehow need a twitch account to connect to gamepedia now..)
inner patio
Both https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bone_Helmet and https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fingerless_Silk_Gloves lists the toxic sewer map, itself lists the fingerless https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Toxic_Sewer_Map. If I'm not mistaken it should only list the bone helmet
grand pollen
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Venom_Gyre
am I blind or it doesn't mention that returning projectiles only do 25% of damage?
slate grail
coarse ermine
Added It_That_Fled to The Bargain's Item Acquisition list.
flat eagle
The stats on Cast on Crit are gone https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cast_On_Critical_Strike_Support
frosty oriole
Minefield has a 40% slower animation on top of its 60% less mine throwing speed.
Or that could just be mines in general. GGG did some weird stuff to how mines work.
Nevermind, its definitely a weird quirk of minefield.
pulsar geyser
If I want to experiment with trying to get a table to work, can I use my profile page as a sandbox?
bleak comet
@pulsar geyser Sure, I do that all the time.
pulsar geyser
Okay, wasn't sure what the convention was.
silver kernel
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Monster_resistances
I would fix this page if I knew what templates it is actually trying to pull from. At work so I cannot investigate if anyone wants to see what they can do before I get home.
frosty oriole
The comment about minefield being slower than it actually is may be a bug.
bitter sorrel
heyo, is there a way to hide the "Pro status" icon on my wiki username?
bitter sorrel
@grand magnet while you're in Module:Blight, could you have a look at Oil quantities > 1 ? โฅ
bitter sorrel
i think i've identified the problem but i'm not sure how to explain it, so here's an example of a recipe that uses the same oil twice and doesn't show that on the wiki:
ggg data BlightCraftingRecipes.json where id = "InverseWeighting5" shows "BlightCraftingItemsKeys" = [0, 1, 1] -- three ingredients , one oil is used twice
whereas on the wiki:
cargo table "blight_crafting_recipes_items" where recipe_id = "InverseWeighting5" -- only shows the two ingredients
grand magnet
seems like an issue with cargo
bitter sorrel
nice work ๐ i was going to suggest adding an index too
bitter sorrel
when using the reflist template for a ggg post, should date = what's on the post (i.e. NZ time), or adjusted for UTC?
bleak comet
@bitter sorrel I just copy/paste whatever the date the post says. I don't think it's necessary to put more thought to it than that, a couple of hours of differences doesn't really matter in the world of PoE.
tiny widget
Does anyone know if there is an API entry point for Item Data?
crisp briar
I have question
bitter sorrel
@crisp briar ask away!
grand magnet
what does this have to do with the wiki
bitter sorrel
|drop_text = Drop from Synthesis bosses of Zana's mission. Always drop as a [[synthesised item]]. It cannot be {{il|Orb of Chance|chanced}}.
Is that supposed to be in that field?
grand pollen
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cast_while_Channelling_Support
the bonus for triggered spell is gone
bitter sorrel
sorry for the double-uploads... my imagemagick skills aren't as good as i thought they were ๐
mild osprey
Hey I noticed that the Timeless Jewel Elegant Hubris is missing from both Power charge and Frenzy charge articles
the Endurance charge article doesn't have it either
bitter sorrel
@grand pollen fixed, thanks for reporting it.
@grand magnet ExporterBot may have a bug -- it removed more Damage and the cannot cast supported line from Cast while Channelling Support (i've fixed the wikipage for now)
stone crater
not a bug of exporterbot
mods on Cast On Critical Strike Support, Cast on Melee Kill Support and Cast while Channelling Support which haven't been parsed correctly
bitter sorrel
haven't been parsed correctly by what?
stone crater
I think those may have been moved else where, perhaps to a field but I didn't investigate yet
o.t.e*
glossy axle
Thanks man
rancid harness
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Delve minimum depths for finding vaal outposts, abyssal cities and primeval ruins needs to be updated ๐
bitter sorrel
can someone please verify the accuracy (and quality) of the recent changes made to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Attack_speed
radiant summit
@bitter sorrel should be reverted to how it was before those changes
removed a lot of detail and the grammar is poor
quiet idol
bitter sorrel
i think that writing X has legacy variants directly under the heading Legacy variants is unnecessary duplication
still swift
any reason the rune dagger section of https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_daggers doesn't have a column for EDPS/PDPS?
solemn storm
@still swift fixed
junior brook
@radiant summit report, germany vpn, inappropriated ads
radiant summit
You can report the ad on the page but ads are served contextually
You have to report the ad in order for it to be blacklisted
junior brook
How to report correctly? i pressed x and there 2 options - stop seeing this ad and why this ad
radiant summit
I think you press stop seeing this ad but i'm not entirely sure
junior brook
yeah, stop seeing gives options to report, done!
lunar ingot
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Undead_Brutes#
i tried to edit this prophecy on the wiki and I messed it up alittle I tried to put it back together the best i could and I dont really know what went wrong, it no longer has a objective bulleton I only wanted to add the quay into the possible areas it could spawn in because thats where I found it.
bleak comet
@lunar ingot It's fixed now, but looking at your edits they don't make sense (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=The_Undead_Brutes&diff=prev&oldid=578875). Like why would you add an empty parameter called "The Quay=" to the Prophecy description template? The source text doesn't suggest that at all.
I've seen these kinds of weird edits before and it's because Visual Editor was used, it really doesn't work at all on the poe wiki that relies A LOT on templates to reduce data duplication. My suggestion is to turn it off in your preferences. I think you will easier understand where stuff is input that way by just using the normal text editor immediately.
bitter sorrel
perhaps Use Visual Editor should default to off for new users?
bleak comet
I've suggested that a few times. Some people higher up thinks it really does more good than bad.
velvet vine
Offering has wrong item class on the wiki. Wiki says "Labyrinth Map Item" while the actual one that works in filters is "Map Fragments" (or any superset of this).
toxic gyro
is there any link for 3.8 end countdown
stone crater
should be 3 days before 3.9 launched on Dec 7
but confirmed date will be announced in Exilecon Nov 16
bitter sorrel
is there an easy(ish) way to pull up all map vendor recipes (progression) from the wiki? (or with pypoe)
bleak comet
@bitter sorrel I have something similar here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=User:Illviljan/cargo
bitter sorrel
@bleak comet that shows divination cards too, is that intended?
bleak comet
@bitter sorrel In my case it is. But with another clever where condition those can probably be removed.
bitter sorrel
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=User:Niightblade/map_upgrades smells a bit but it seems to work ๐
molten sedge
These pages should be merged: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_Blight_league_challenges and https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_blight_league_challenges
bitter sorrel
@molten sedge done
fresh knot
hey, added The Damned Card drop to vaal temple, but how can i show it now on Vaal temple map site? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Temple_Map
bleak comet
@fresh knot It should show up there automatically. If not null editing the page usually forces the page to update to latest status.
thorn island
Last time i searched on how to get a "Vaal Temple Map" i saw that it isn't documented.
Shouldn't it be added to?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Temple_Map#
I couldn't find a reference that states that Vaaling any T15 can result in a T16 Vaal Temple Map.
If someone with Wiki skills agrees with me and wants to add a sentence to it then go ahead.
fresh knot
@bleak comet didnt know it needs 1 day. Updating card drop on card page did take about 1 hour, update to map page did take 1 day. I have to be patient next time ๐
@thorn island you can still see it here : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Temple_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas) , copy paste, dont know
grand magnet
Fixed missing duration on skills, some rounding problems and some incorrect, additional text appearing on some skills
sharp geode
was browsing and saw this, it seems worng
bleak comet
@eternal crater Have you changed the editing rights?
eternal crater
i removed smwadministrator
bleak comet
@eternal crater Something else has changed then because now edits like these can come through: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Arsenal_Map&curid=70462&diff=579401&oldid=579400. We required a account before.
eternal crater
i'll take a look
eternal crater
should be disabled again
raven bluff
they do have a point though, why does it say "boss video" on all the map articles when there is no video
bleak comet
Just like it's easier to fix grammar than writing a paragraph about something it is easier to just add a nice video than to come up with the idea of adding a nice video. The formatting will also be consistent across the pages this way.
grand pollen
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_wand_modifiers
can we have a page for convoking wands?
grand pollen
needs to be added to the index at the top I think
mint thunder
i added the link to the convoking wand modifier page into the item modifier navbox template. seemed simple enough, and assume that was the proper place to put it.
grand magnet
@eternal crater getting a timeout when trying to open https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/UserProfile:Tapdatjass
fallen osprey
Bladestorm is missing 3 enchantments https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bladestorm
quiet idol
for the new recipe for added dmg on wands the wiki doesn't mention that it depends also on the rarity of the ring https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system#Crafting
bleak comet
@fallen osprey The missing enchantments used the skill name in plural form, that's why it didn't work.
fallen osprey
sweet, thanks
grand pollen
list of vaal gems disappeared from skill gems page
there used to be a small table with vaal gems
grand magnet
the page is too big
covert roost
ะ ัััะบะธะต ะตััั?
flat eagle
con quien hablo por q me tira un error el mapa rambla algo asi me tira critical error
rich widget
@flat eagle The normal place to report something like that would be the bug report forum. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/bug-reports
loud night
signal falcon
RoflanChelik
sour berry
https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/405874785038368818/649741869713981456
there's a tooltip sure, but should purchase prices still be on the itembox for most uniques?
rich widget
Why not? You can buy them from masters, can't you?
sour berry
I've never seen zana sell uniques after the betrayal league
grand magnet
I think they removed it with the master rework
It's probably fine to remove that from the unique item pages
sour berry
but who knows maybe we can buy them off the conquerors next league :p
grand magnet
the cost is derived from the base item anyway
mortal badge
So he sunprism weapon basically works on any weapon type that is not a bow or wand?
And we can use a ' weapon effect' on it to have it glow or be electified?
rich widget
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ignite#Unique_items
Any idea why the unique item query here doesn't return Dyadian Dawn in the results? WHERE LIKE is case insensitive, is it not?
mint thunder
the mod on the belt is "FasterBurnFromAttacksEnemiesUniqueBelt14" so you would have to adjust the query in regard to that (just what i gathered from a quick glance). changing |where=item_stats.id like "%ignit%" to |where=item_stats.id like "%burn%" for example includes it in the list
solemn storm
@rich widget
+---------------+------+-----------------------------+--------------+------------+------+-----+
| Page | avg | id | is implicit | is random | max | min |
+---------------+------+-----------------------------+--------------+------------+------+-----+
| Dyadian Dawn | 35 | faster_burn_from_attacks_% | | No | 35 | 35 |
| Dyadian Dawn | 35 | faster_burn_from_attacks_% | No | No | 35 | 35 |
+---------------+------+-----------------------------+--------------+------------+------+-----+
Looks like ignite isn't in the stat name
sinful glade
hey i wanted to log into gamepedia and maybe help edit the wiki with some missing interactions that have been bothering me, i log in through twitch and when i try to click back on the poe wiki i get this
a22c7e4ff94cb575b27d4ddf] /Path_of_Exile_Wiki CannotCreateActorException from line 2455 of /home/hydra/public_html/includes/user/User.php: Cannot create an actor for a usable name that is not an existing user
now i cant access the wiki at all ๐ฆ
bleak comet
Maybe @eternal crater can help with this issue?
sinful glade
is he here ? or do i have to message him?
eternal crater
did you already have an account before today?
sinful glade
im not entirely sure, ive been using the wiki for over 5 years at this point
sinful glade
gamepedia required i log in through twitch, im not sure if that was the case before
eternal crater
it's been that way for over a year
sinful glade
im going to try deleting my gamepedia cookies and log out
do twitch account connection have individual cookies ?
ok deleting all cookies relating to gamepedia worked
id still like to add to the wiki though
eternal crater
i dont think this is an issue caused by you
i think there is an underlying issue with new accounts
trying to work it out
eternal crater
thanks. i was able to duplicate the issue. i'll let you know when its fixed
open hedge
Can anyone confirm for me if the beyond mod from sextants require red maps to roll? as in T11+ red sextants only?
open hedge
yea i checked there b4 @solemn storm but wasnt sure..the level 78 is still confusing i guess?
open hedge
kk yea thats what i assumed but i have yellows at ilvl 78+ too so just wanted to confirm..ty
eternal crater
@sinful glade should be fixed now
stable parcel
Hi all, on this page information about Dual Wielding is outdated.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Glacial_Hammer
lusty hedge
Someone know where i can find or add the css of the main wiki (en) to a another wiki with diffrerent language ?
like o-flex-grid etc...
grand magnet
You need admin permissions to do that. It's in MediaWiki:Common.css
mint thunder
went ahead and added blight uniques to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_league-specific_unique_items ... i left those out i wasnt sure of i.e. didnt say 'Blight League Specific' on http://poedb.tw/us/unique.php?c=Blight
lusty hedge
Do you have some advice to write fast a page ?
lusty hedge
@stable parcel Glacial Hammer fixed !
If you have any information need to be corrected or add, tell me !
rich widget
@lusty hedge Do you just want the css for the flex grid?
lusty hedge
I found it ah ah : ^^
mint thunder
noticed this thread regarding delve mods that are undocumented beyond their 'Modifer:XYZ' pages https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/e72vq5/a_thread_for_missing_outdated_incorrect/
apparently this has been brought up before. since they cant be rolled with fossils i'd be weary of putting them on the 'List of item mods' page itself, but really have no idea or strong opinion. has their been any thought regarding this?
also since my editing skills revolve around trial and error with this cargo query stuff, what would even be the best way to pull them? was experimenting on the 'List of delve modifers' page and got them to show up using ' q_where=mods.name="Subterranean" ', but it was also pulling are modifiers etc. Here's an example of one such mod (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:MaximumChaosResistDelve), as you can see it doesnt have domain or generation type of typical fossil mods--i assume the "contains chaos items" node in delve uses the modifier's tags then.
long story short, just curious what others think regarding organizing these somewhere
hmm maybe i was slightly wrong, is "Found Items have a 10% chance to drop Corrupted in Area / Area is inhabited by the Vaal" https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:DelveMapMonsterPacksVaalMapWorlds1 a delve mod that can spawn on maps?
solemn storm
I'm fixing the page now.
okay its updated.
Might be worth differentiating in the fossil sections which mods are legacy and which aren't
mint thunder
kind of unrelated/tangential, but i never noticed that delve map map >> ... can it be rolled with fossils?
solemn storm
lusty hedge
Most of the passive node (description) are outdated and im actually updating them but should i update version history too ?
bleak comet
If you want to. That's what version history is for.
alpine abyss
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ancestral_Warchief -- the Dual Wielding statement is false slash very misleading. Can somebody fix that please? It is fixed (since v3.5) so AW (and many other skills) now correctly alternate between weapons when Dual Wielding. ref to the 3.5 patch notes (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2255460)
grand magnet
You can edit that page yourself
lusty hedge
@alpine abyss I have updated it for you
formal onyx
I think you should remove the recomendation to use eternal orbs in this page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Crafting
lusty hedge
i will do it soon
dense vale
wiki down?
shell wraith
its not down for me but weirdly formatted
bleak comet
They're updating to MediaWiki 1.33
green delta
How do I exit poe wiki beta or whatever this is? its all messed up
flat eagle
Edit? You don't till the update is done.
unkempt mountain
oh good, it's not just me
stark bear
It looks our wiki page is updated
but is it still in read only mode?
Does one of the admins of our wiki need to turn off read only mode?
red oracle
formatting is all jacked
stone crater
work fine for me after login
sharp spindle
pulsar gate
Wiki is FUBAR, hope it will get fixed soon
fossil phoenix
The styling on Special:Preferences has been updated to use the newer styling standard. Wikis may need to update their CSS.
so need update css ? ๐ฆ
hard heath
either someone needs to set up PyPoE on my computer or extract the scion/ascendant icons that's been new for the past 2 years
hallow vale
I still don't get it. The update went wrong or they just didn't expect everything to break?
tight locust
Wiki CSS is working okay for me now, so if people are still having issues I assume it's related to CDN caching
stable parcel
not fixed :C
We need instruction how fix it (if that client bug),
or wait for wiki editors for fixing (if that wiki bug)
fossil phoenix
After ctrl+f5 wiki is back. Seems okay now.
stable parcel
yeah, its work!
tawny hearth
Does anyone know how you change your name on the wiki?
bleak comet
@tawny hearth By contacting the gamepedia support. https://gamepedia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/categories/202623457-Account-Assistance
tawny hearth
Alright, I just noticed my name had a shit ton of numbers after it an no one elses does.
hard heath
PUBLIC FORUM: Now that Blights are going to be part of the main game, it needs its own page, but I don't know what to name the page. What do we put it under and what about Blight (the skill)?
radiant summit
sour berry
looks like nobody has made https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Blight_(mechanics) yet
from a quick ctrl+f there's a table of towers, but nothing about the chest drops (granted some of them are just renamed from legion)
rich widget
Please add info about the Blight game mechanics here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Blight_(game_mechanic)
grand magnet
we can swap Blight for the game machanic and move league stuff to Blight (league), assuming it has some content at some point
there is also Oil and Tower pages which have the mechanics
grand magnet
@bleak comet do you want to update the mod list for the new tags (see game module)?
Its gonna be a while until they're on the wiki though a lot of mods had changes so it will probably take a long time for the bot to go through, but they should work like the others
bleak comet
You've seen if there are both prefix and suffix?
grand magnet
I didn't check but I'd assume so
bleak comet
yeah probably
bleak comet
It's updated. We'll see if the pages can handle this amount of queries without timeouts.
grand magnet
getting timeouts after timeouts ... update will take even longer
formal onyx
The request I made to remove the suggestion to use Eternal orbs from this page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Crafting never went though
rich widget
@formal onyx Go ahead and remove it.
formal onyx
I don't want to make an account for just one edit
rich widget
K
raven bluff
honestly that whole page could use a rewrite -- it's badly out of date
doesn't mention essences, fossils, beastcrafting, elder/shaper influence, annuls...
... temple and delve exclusive mods, double corruption, div cards as a source of bases, probably a few other things I've forgotten ...
inland shale
Vaal Cyclone seem to be missing from the Vaal Skill page, unless there's a game change I've missed.
Actually seems to be missing a few others too. Vaal Burning Arrow
unkempt moth
Hi, how can i join #1โgeneral and #offtopic discussion? it says i dont have permission. dont know what to do
inner patio
I'm getting "Lua error: Cannot access the database: Unknown error (smw1_cluster.aurora.local.curse.us:3306)." all over the crafting bench page. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Crafting_Bench Other pages seem to be fine
tall comet
@unkempt moth I believe people who just joined got put into a "panic" role. Pretty annoying considering I re-joined and am not even a "new" member.
jade narwhal
Does anyone have information about lightning golem's attack? the wiki have for some other golems, but not the lightning
half sandal
real question here
why does new wiki looks like garbage now?
what were they thinking
bleak comet
Probably on your side only. Nothing major has changed.
stone crater
use ctrl+f5 to reload all css
flat eagle
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Awakened_Support_Skill_Gems
This redirects to champion node
cloud tangle
Hey, I'm not actually writing in the channel here because I'm a completely new player, but the entry at https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Carrion_Golem is not correct. The quest reward from act 3 is not available for me, I am playing the last patch and I dont get it ๐ maybe you can change it
grand magnet
the quest reward are messed up in the game data, ignore it for now
hazy moss
For some reason, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system has extra empty space on the right side of the page, causing a scrollbar to appear at the bottom
It's the only page I can find with this problem, after clicking random page a few dozen times - and I can't find anything on the vendor recipes page that extends to the side either, to explain the cause
Using Chrome's zoom, if I scale the page down to 80% or below 67%, the extra space disappears (but it is present in 75%)
...and weirdly, it changes size when zooming, but it doesn't correspond to the zoom level: it's bigger at 90% than it is at 100%
sour berry
is it the video embed?
hazy moss
Hmm, how do I eliminate it to know?
I blocked it using uBlock and the video is gone but the black extra space remains
I used the block feature again, this time it created the second line here and now the videos are gone from the whole wiki (which is of course a win, even though the extra space is still on the vendor recipes page lol)
Forgot the image >_>
bleak comet
Why is it a win to remove those vids? They aren't ads. Are they outdated?
hazy moss
Just extra clutter, unnecessary :D
mint thunder
not using stylus to make wiki look cleaner, smh
molten sedge
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Saviour Can someone add Reflection skill? Thank you.
queen hinge
Can someone please fix the Vaal Spark page? I don't know how to edit pages, but if someone else does, the "gem level progression" section has a Lua error and the "item acquisition" section incorrectly states that Vaal Spark is drop disabled (I know for a fact it isn't, as my guild currently has several in the guild stash on Softcore Metamorph League, and I got one as a drop from a Vaal side area on day 2 or 3 of the league).
bleak comet
A small edit to force the page to update was enough to fix it.
queen hinge
thank you!
molten sedge
These pages have errors: Reflection - The Alluring Abyss - The Apex of Sacrifice.
acoustic nova
Hi all and merry Christmas I have a question I'm new to the game and I play on PS4 I'm having trouble crafting I did a mission in 3.8 blight league to get multiple craft modifiers and it's now not there it only has can have up to 3 modifiers is there a way it can be upgraded from 3 to max as I'm running a dule wand arc witch and sitting on 49 K dps I know it's old build but like it please need help and nolleg
Not my PS4 username to lol old discord account
mint thunder
they altered the metacrafting "can have multiple crafted modifiers" to only allow itself +2 other mods (3 crafted modifiers) sorry :(
acoustic nova
Oh no there goes my build then won't have anuff dps for the end game
Might as well give up no point on keep going trash everything and play a new game
flat eagle
@low thicket
fervent shore
Just got https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Black_Cane from Baran, the Crusader
Either wiki's wrong or its dropping incorrectly
fossil nexus
.
torn horizon
Prophesy Objective pages text gets the text template from https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:Item_table (which for some reason crashes my chrome tab) and it says "wearing" instead of "holding". I am not good enough to start editing that or how to use the "sandbox" page suggested on that item table module page. Could someone try to take a look at it?
lunar patrol
Is there no more "tornado shot fires 2 additional secondary projectiles"?
pure cipher
@lunar patrol didnโt they nerf that one into oblivion?
little leaf
These gloves drop me from Baran (red) https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Painseeker
scenic harness
I have noticed two things that are wrong in the wiki:
- The Fox also drops from the A7 Northern Forest, and it is not listed.
- I had The Black Dane ( https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Black_Cane ) drop from Al-Hezmin, not Drox, which is listed.
somber holly
Ball Lightning page doesn't mention if its damage scales with projectile damage, anyone know?
scenic harness
afaik it does scale with projectile damage
sinful glade
a little unrelated but whats the best way to share a .hideout file in a reddit comment?, is it a link to a google drive share file?, any others i could use?
sour berry
#1โendgame-help and there's a bunch of hideout upload sites
spiral musk
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Desecrate contains the remark
When Triggered, Desecrate creates the corpses instantly, so that the next skill triggered can consume them (unlike Unearth).
This appears to be untrue, or is at least poorly worded; when triggered via Cast when Damage Taken Support, Desecrate does not create the corpses immediately, the corpses will not be available for skills that were triggered simultaneously but were further down in the trigger order (e.g. Flesh Offering), and, in fact, the corpses are consistently created after all other skills have triggered.
I'm moderately certain this is not just me fatally misunderstanding what trigger order means ๐
vagrant gate
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Lunaris_Priestess#Area_restrictions This card (The lunaris priestess)[Sire of shards card] dropped for me in an T7 Moon Temple map . The area isnt listed in the wiki, FYI
open wing
Where should I write about issue with wiki's mod database?
In Caster Staffs modlist there should be a bunch of mods like flat something added to spells but there are none: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_caster_staff_modifiers
You can find that items with those mods exist in trade search:
... and some other sites that lists mods.
But I would like to have wiki properly working as it showing some internal values like item group which can represent is there are mod conflicts between some mods...
grand magnet
Not sure I get what you're saying. First, the mods are on the wiki if you click on "Mod group: SpellAddedElementalDamage"
and secondly, it's working properly since it's intended to show the mod group so people know that certain mods are mutually exclusive
gusty hedge
@grand magnet Are incursion mods listed on the wiki?
open wing
@grand magnet Oh... yea, it's there but ... personally I think it would be better if you could search for mod by name in game... (and then check group name inside of a group...)
@gusty hedge I had the same problem โ at least for now you should google Architecs name to get their mods: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Topotante,_Architect_of_Storms
At least that how I was looking for them...
gusty hedge
I can imply the item location from some of the names
WeaponCasterDamagePrefix
but I wish I knew for sure what items they were associated with
solemn storm
That information is not in the ggpk
You can submit that information by hand if you'd like
gusty hedge
Bummer
solemn storm
Same with delve only mods
open wing
@gusty hedge that's something linked with regular increase
solemn storm
Any mods which cannot spawn naturally on items are not linked to them in the ggpk
gusty hedge
Yeah, that's another list I wish was better documented
@solemn storm do you recall when that info was stripped from the ggpk? was it before those leagues were introduced? I vaguely recall that info being available
grand magnet
Mod names are only used by magic items, I don't see much a of a point in that. They are also duplicate or dont exist for some like corruptions. Do you mean statistics (i.e. "adds x to y"? You can do the latter by just going to an item's mod list, expand all the items and use the search function of the browser
solemn storm
@gusty hedge I don't know what you mean by that.
There are very few sources of mods which are not spawnable through crafting on items - all league specific
I have never seen them linked to the items via ggpk, although I haven't searched particularly hard
You should search through the ggpk to verify for yourself
gusty hedge
I think incursion and delve are the two which come right to my mind
solemn storm
And warbands.
gusty hedge
oh?
see... that wasn't even on my radar
and my whole point is, I'll theorize a dream item and then a friend will say, "well this is better" and link me something I didn't even know was possible in the game. This is because it was crafted from a base with mods I didn't know existed
So I'd just like to see what all the current mods in the game for certain items are
solemn storm
Yeah - well as I said
you are welcome to hand input them
but there is no way to produce this information automatically to my knowledge
gusty hedge
I mean. I'm looking into automating it from what's available on the market
bleak comet
@open wing Press the expand all button, then ctrl+f for the mod you want.
gusty hedge
but I was just checking first if it was somewhere in the ggpk (or somewhere else) but not well documented yet
solemn storm
Not to my knowledge, worth checking for yourself though.
gusty hedge
Looks like I'll need to. Thanks @solemn storm
(also enjoyed your spree of mod-related questions for the trade search)
solemn storm
I have a large sum of trade data if you want me to generate a list of incursion mods and which base they spawned on
gusty hedge
I might poke you later when/if I get to that point. Let me see what I can rattle up first
open wing
@gusty hedge you could ask some guy that did PoE craft app... He should know where he took his information about mod weights and how they conflict and there are fossils, essences, crafts, regular mods...
gusty hedge
@open wing I'm unfamiliar with that app, have a reference link?
solemn storm
There are multiple of them and most have small bugs, I'd be cautious ๐
gusty hedge
yeah, that's what I've been noticing
solemn storm
I'm happy to talk details of crafting simulation if you're interested, but not in this channel
open wing
This is like not only mod list but complete crafting simulator
@solemn storm I was using this post: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c-cgMnnQkBt3pH2N30P-QLfpno3qHPtY/view and checking every Architech on wiki as their mods are listed on their pages...
grand magnet
Also something I've been working on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=User:OmegaK2/test5
I think I should probably cut of the edges of the atlas though so it gets a bit smaller
bleak comet
yeah that's looking good. But indeed to large. Maybe try scaling it down too?
grand magnet
the map icons are half size ... I think if I scale the whole thing down by 2x or so everything gets too small though
Some maps are already too close for the text to play nicely along
gusty hedge
Nice test5 @grand magnet
bleak comet
Have you tried adding the item infobox hoover? Or is that too heavy? Then you could remove the names.
grand magnet
I thought about that but I'd actually need to put HTML boxes over the map in that case
right now it's straight drawn on the canvas
I feel like I'd probably end up changing the text and map info to HTML boxes. I suppose I could also put the drop area info on the atlas since it's region based now
gusty hedge
I'm trying to form a cargoquery where I get a single entry for a mods.id where it has a property that is an array of all the associated mod_stats min/max fields. Not quite sure how to do it.
For example:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/api.php?action=cargoquery&tables=mods,mod_stats&join_on=mods._pageName=mod_stats._pageName&fields=mods.id,mods.stat_text_raw,mod_stats.min,mod_stats.max&where=mods.id="LocalBaseArmourAndLife1"
I would like something similar to this:
{
"cargoquery": [
{
"title": {
"id": "LocalBaseArmourAndLife1",
"stat text raw": "+(14-20) to Armour<br>+(18-23) to maximum Life",
"stats": [
{
"min": "14",
"max": "20"
},
{
"min": "18",
"max": "23"
}
]
}
}
]
}
the recipe for getting corrupt only jewels is wrong, it says you need to vaal a unique jewel which isn't true
its wrong on every corrupt only jewel page, so don't wanna edit all of them manually
is there a way to do that in bulk?
grand magnet
@gusty hedge you're not going to get a single entry when you join multiple rows. Also if you're just after mods might as well grab them from game data instead of the wiki.
gusty hedge
Alright. Thank you
solemn storm
@gusty hedge if you want to compute queries against the mods i highly suggest using repoe
gusty hedge
Yeah, I was poking around in pypoe last night trying to understand how the fields in various tables related. It's not especially straightforward. It was a little more clear looking at repoe afterwards. I can probably get by with what I want just using the files produced by repoe... but I can't help but wonder what data is available that repoe isn't pulling out quite yet.
I'm legitimately sad that most of the spawn_weights have been removed. ๐ฆ It is very helpful to know what items can spawn certain affixes
solemn storm
I'm not sure what you mean by that, the vast majority of the spawn_weights are in the ggpk
gusty hedge
Hmm, maybe that's true. I had been mostly looking at incursion modifiers recently
solemn storm
The only thing that doesn't have spawn weights are incursion, delve, and warbands....
And that's because they don't use spawn weights to spawn the mods on the item
gusty hedge
Yep, and those are all the ones I had been especially looking at recently
solemn storm
Well, don't be too sad, considering the spawn_weights don't mean anything for those.
Essences also don't have spawn_weights ๐
gusty hedge
Ah, yes. That's also right!
solemn storm
It seems the only thing that's actually lacking is a table linking the league specific mods to the item bases they spawn on. You might be able to find that somewhere in the ggpk, but I believe others have searched before
gusty hedge
You're absolutely right (first sentence).
I'll spend some more time poking around for it. But I suppose it isn't all that important.
I bet I'd probably get my answer quicker by making assumptions from trade searches
solemn storm
here, I'll write a script real quick.
gusty hedge
solemn storm
Yes mods on unique items dont have spawn weights ๐
gusty hedge
those aren't unique items
solemn storm
almost every mod with Unique is a mod which spawns only on unique items
which accounts for 437 of the 500 in that query
I think you are getting confused between them "removing" spawn weights, and a bunch of mods just not having spawn weights because of their function
anything with "generation_type": "unique" we do not expect to have a spawn weight
However, even if you look at generation_type of prefix or suffix you'll find a bunch of mods with no spawn_weights since they are now legacy mods
gusty hedge
I see now
I thought selection mod_domain=1 (item) was enough, but yeah... that was grabbing uniques (among others)
solemn storm
Mods are complicated, but rest assured GGG is not censoring spawn weights at the moment.
gusty hedge
The only ommision are spawn weights on items that can't otherwise be crafted/created? (e.g., incursion, delve, warbands)
solemn storm
Spawn weights are used to roll items, so you should expect there to be meaningful spawn weights if and only if the mod can spawn in crafting.
gusty hedge
appreciate the share
solemn storm
Let me know if that is incomplete in anyway.
gusty hedge
I'll look at it a bit closer tonight. This was derived from current items up for trade, yeah?
solemn storm
yeah just scanned through a huge dump of them I have - all metamorph
solemn storm
What about it
gusty hedge
why it exists?
gusty hedge
That's kind of my question
is there something exceptional about the level 1 affixes?
solemn storm
Mod level contributes to two things (to my knowledge) - restricting the item level a mod can spawn on and affecting the required level to equip that item
bleak comet
I think the 1 vs 50 is that level 1 were for the initial league and then they created new with level 50 when the league was done.
gusty hedge
Okay, that would make sense @bleak comet . Do you know if the level 1 still get created?
I'm not really sure how I would even know in game tbh
bleak comet
not sure, im just guessing based on when the pages were created.
Like they're all copies statwise.
gusty hedge
copies aside from the required_level, which is obviously an important detail
solemn storm
Is it?
gusty hedge
very
solemn storm
@gusty hedge I ran a query over ilvl for incursion items, the lowest ilvl I could find is 52, while the lowest lvl requirement was 40. Since item level requirement is max of 80% of mod level requirement, this suggests strongly they are all the 50 versions.
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/PPn0W6JiL This search demonstrates that
stone crater
@solemn storm how you generate the incursion_mods.json?
solemn storm
I ran over a large collection of results from the official trade website I have
@stone crater I could also generate similar files for delve mods, if interested.
stone crater
yes, please
solemn storm
@stone crater Contains both fossils mods and non-fossil mods
I'm working on a tool which extracts all possible ggpk mod ids from the extended info, if you're interested I'll let you know when it's done
gusty hedge
Awesome, thank you!
solemn storm
better formatted
stone crater
@solemn storm
"-1521412538": {
"mod": [
{
"min": 111,
"max": 115,
"text": "#% increased Lightning Damage"
},
{
"min": 2,
"max": 6,
"text": "Adds # to # Lightning Damage to Spells"
},
{
"min": 79,
"max": 84,
"text": "Adds # to # Lightning Damage to Spells"
}
],
"item_classes": [
"Warstaff",
"Staff"
]
},
some stranges in incursion_mods.json
solemn storm
@stone crater oh - the first one indicates the first roll range,
the second one the second roll range
Adds (2-6) to (79-84) Lightning Damage to Spells
quiet idol
wanted to bring this up again https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/255636480016252928/664764132888936448
could someone help?
stone crater
@solemn storm https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Incursion
radiant summit
@quiet idol like this?
radiant summit
they should all be done
quiet idol
nice, thx! did you do it manually? I hope not
radiant summit
yeah i did it manually, there's not that many vaal exclusive jewels
like 15 or something
only took a couple minutes
solemn storm
@stone crater I see some of the lvl 50 mods are still missing, I'll look into those.
@stone crater Also i think all the lvl 1 mods are legacy now (you can tell by looking at the item level requirement of listed items)
raven bluff
Is there even any way to get a temple under level 50 anymore? Alva doesn't appear before Act 7, and the first world area of that act is level 50
solemn storm
@raven bluff This is really a silly technicality, but even though the items don't drop below level 52 the mod could still be the ilvl 1 version
However you can tell it's not by looking at ilvl requirement.
raven bluff
(probably for the best, the right temple rares made most leveling uniques obsolete, and completely broke low-level dueling)
solemn storm
@raven bluff (Note that even if they restricted the drops to lvl 50, if a lvl 50 iron ring has only a ilvl 1 mod on it the required level will be 1)
raven bluff
Ah, yeah, you're right. Does still mean that it's always "safe" for the temple to spawn items with those mods -- it'll never violate ilvl requirements by doing so
Other league-specific methods of spawning temple rares are another matter, though. ๐
solemn storm
@stone crater I think you missed this
"-1637160733": {
"mod": [
{
"min": 69,
"max": 73,
"text": "# to maximum Mana"
},
{
"min": -5,
"max": -3,
"text": "#% increased Mana Reserved"
}
],
"item_classes": [
"Helmet"
]
}
The rest of the ilvl50 exist in standard but not metamorph:
+(74โ78) to maximum Mana
(-8โ-6) to Total Mana Cost of Skills
Minions deal (90โ95)% increased Damage
Minions deal (133โ138)% increased Damage
+2 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
thanks
"IncreasedManaEnhancedModReservation": {
"mod": [
{
"min": "69",
"max": "73",
"text": "# to maximum Mana"
},
{
"min": 5,
"max": 3,
"text": "#% reduced Mana Reserved"
}
]
},
I'm thinking how to fix it ...
solemn storm
Yeah the negating stuff on the trade website is a bit of a nightmare, I just hard coded in recomputing min and max based on the values given.
@stone crater while I have your attention, do you think you could fix the mods like this:
Turns out all mods which grant an aura list the stat the aura supplies in the mod themselves, but don't actually grant that stat.
stone crater
got it, but I have no idea how to fix that..
solemn storm
Yeah, I'll have to dig around the ggpk. I suspect there should be some indication
solemn storm
@stone crater planning on adding the delve mods?
stone crater
there was a page https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Delve , I'm thinking how to display the delve mods, maybe like incursion
graceful oracle
Hi, my firewall always detects a virus/malware when I'm on PoE's wiki (it doesn't happen on other wikis, and other's PC detect it aswell). Can you guys do something about it from your position ? If not who do we signal this kind of stuff to ? (like is there some wiki security guy ?)
onyx gale
@spiral crater
elfin violet
hi, yes cast on crit is missing the spell damage modifier
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cast_On_Critical_Strike_Support
lime belfry
can someone change the pantheon tip in the dodge page? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dodge
The Soul of Lunaris Major Pantheon power has an upgrade that grants 5% chance to Dodge Attacks and Spells if you've been Hit Recently. This can be unlocked by capturing the soul of Sebbert, Crescent's Point in Moon Temple Map.```
its not that boss <https://puu.sh/EZgpf/0a2b2e8082.png>
<https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Excellis_Aurafix>
bitter token
Does anyone have a list of all the implicit that a synthesized item can roll like Circle of Fear and etc?
solemn storm
bitter token
Thank you so much
white spindle
Hi, is there an easy way to tell by ilvl what the highest mod it could roll on an item
And also itโs max number of sockets
Apology for poor England
Or is it different for every item
still swift
not the right place to ask, but a place like http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Body+Armour&an=str_armour or https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_one-handed_axe_modifiers would help for the mods, and the number of sockets that can be rolled can be found here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_socket, but those limits can be bypassed by using the crafting bench recipes
white spindle
Ok thank you
limpid folio
Hey wiki people. I noticed that some of the new lore hasn't been copied in yet
I don't want to make an account, does anyone want me to PM them some of the lore pieces as I copy them down and can begin adding them : ) ?
radiant summit
just heads up, wiki = gamepedia = twitch
so if you already have a twitch account you don't have to make one
solemn storm
@grand magnet what needs to be done in order to fix cast on crit and awakened cast on crit on the wiki?
grand magnet
find out where the progression is coming from for that skill gem
minor sparrow
wiki is wrong about cast while channeling gem
how can it be fixed (or who i need to write to fix it)?
quiet idol
whats wrong in detail?
hard heath
can someone upload the data for the Reflection skill?
gusty hedge
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_class
I can see where Item class and Internal ID came from but I haven't seen where the Category was data driven from. Just wanted to double check if these were added manually before I keep digging around more.
grand magnet
ItemClasses.dat
open wing
Hey guys! It's not about wiki, but you should be people who might know โ how to make trade site link that will save for indefinite time filter settings that you put in?..
radiant summit
You could just bookmark the search
open wing
Nope, it would reset soon
gusty hedge
@grand magnet thank you (again). I had to add it to repoe's parsed output. Cheers
solemn storm
@gusty hedge if theres info you think should be added to repoe please make a pr
gusty hedge
You're right. Thanks for the reminder
spiral musk
In https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_gloves, Breathstealer is stated to have the mod "Create a Blighted Spore when you Kill a Rare Monster", while the actual mod is "Create a Blighted Spore when your Skills or Minions Kill a Rare Monster" (as correctly displayed on Breathstealer's page).
open wing
Can update Watcher's Eye stats pls?..
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Watcher's_Eye
I think those mods aren't existing actually:
Like if you check them on trade you won't find them:
(trade is not showing skill effect duration for malevolence)
And what if something is missing at wiki?..
stone crater
the list is all possible mods
open wing
@stone crater how can they be possible if there is none on the trade?(even standart if it's legacy...)
((and if mod is legacy it's probably should be separated...))
You can't select this mod to search on trade
Same with malevolence...
open wing
There is also Purity of Fire is missing in auras table list:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aura#Aura_skill_gems
solemn storm
Although I am not disagreeing with you @open wing about these specific mods, one should note that the official trade website occasionally misses mods in that dropdown. I believe poeapp is a better check for this problem
solemn storm
Yeah - yet again, I think you are correct.
I am only pointing out that you should use poeapp for your validity test
(official trade hard codes in the mods it shows, poeapp generates them based on the river data)
open wing
Skill effect duration also isn't there...
solemn storm
@open wing ive updated the wiki page for watchers eyes
Purity of Fire shows up on the aura skill gems table for me
open wing
@solemn storm is there can be a possibility that some mods are also missing from watcher's eyes table?..
solemn storm
Yes - it is always a possibility. Do you have any suggestions?
flat eagle
is venom gyre scaleable to end game yet?
gusty hedge
Different currency reduces catalyst quality in different ways (e.g., an exalt removes the catalyst quality in entirety); does anyone know if/where this is located in a .dat file? I'm curious how other currencies might affect catalyst quality.
still swift
not sure about the .dat file, but currencies do show in their text if they use catalysts (hovering over an aug will show 2% reduction, for example)
solemn storm
@gusty hedge IIRC there is a GGG post somewhere stating those 4 effects as well
gusty hedge
Makes sense
@solemn storm know if anyone has dug out the positive/negative mod weights for catalysts yet? I looked but didn't see it in repoe yet. I'll check pypoe when I get home later
solemn storm
I doubt those will be in the ggpk
Like the sanctified fossils - we will probably need to do large scale experiments to figure it out
gusty hedge
but the fossil-related weights are
solemn storm
To my knowledge the effect of sanctified fossils is unknown
gusty hedge
Interesting. I guess I hadn't seen sanctified. But for (some) others https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE/blob/master/RePoE/data/fossils.json#L61
solemn storm
Yes, I know. I implemented that part of RePoE ๐
solemn storm
If you find any edge cases not explained by RePoE/PoECraft let me know. The two on my radar are sanctified and catalysts
quiet idol
there are a lot of lines missing on woke coc, just compare https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Awakened_Cast_On_Critical_Strike_Support and https://poedb.tw/us/gem.php?n=Awakened+Cast+On+Critical+Strike+Support ๐ฎ
grand magnet
I think there is something wrong with the comment system, I'll check later. Regarding poedb links it is unnecessary, since you can pretty much place poedb link on 99% of wiki pages
alright there is a ticket for the profile thing
quiet idol
does anybody know exactly how cremation projectiles are fired? on the page it states that 42 are fired over 8s, but if they are fired each second wouldn't 32 make more sense? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cremation
flat eagle
hey, do anyone know a noob friendly guide that explain exactly the effect of different stats?
rich widget
@flat eagle Like what kind of stats?
flat eagle
@rich widget stats that improve minion builds
raven bluff
I mean, anything that says "minion" in it, really...
flat eagle
so accuracy and melee damage and stuff doesnt affect minions whatsoever?
sour berry
you'll get a faster response in #1โnew-player-in-campaign-help since this isn't the right channel
if you go on the passive tree, and hit ctrl+f and type in minions, those are the stats on you that will affect them. gems will work if you read the tags
bold goblet
a
floral sphinx
algun administrador que me ayude?
someone to help me, I want to enter my account and a message comes out that says that my account was disabled by an administrator
bleak comet
@floral sphinx https://help.gamepedia.com/How_to_contact_Gamepedia
floral sphinx
thanks
burnt slate
Anyone got the original file of this image without all the overlay?
proven panther
@burnt slate https://puu.sh/F8HFJ/b053ff39d3.png
there might be a version with no UI at the bottom, but it would have to be in some wallpaper collection from GGG, it's not in the game files
burnt slate
@proven panther Thanks for the help. This is fine.
gusty hedge
@grand magnet love the https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:<mod id> pages. It would be super awesome if there was a changelog for when the modifier changes (e.g., ColdDamageInfluence1 having it's mod type/group change, AdditionalArrowInfluence1 having a no_attack_mods:0 spawn weight added, AttackAndCastSpeedFortify tags changing from speed/attack/caster to just speed, etc)
bleak comet
There's already that built in to all wikis
see history
Top right, under the search bar.
gusty hedge
@bleak comet damn, you're right - thank you. I looked at the history for ColdDamageInfluence1 and saw no changes and assumed it wasn't tracked for the Modifier: pages. Turns out it just isn't up to date yet.
gusty hedge
Oh, I thought the mod type and group for ColdDamageInfluence1 changed to ColdDamagePercentagePrefix
bleak comet
For Metamorph league or even more recent?
gusty hedge
we're still in metamorph league, right?
I'm having an off night... so maybe I'm just wrong. ๐ช
bleak comet
yes and that mod page was created with metamorp, dec 13
gusty hedge
I think it has changed since then
bleak comet
Then it might be outdated
We usually just do one update per league
mods usually don't change significantly during leagues.
rich widget
@bleak comet You should have moved Template:Sl to Template:Skill_link, rather than copying it over, since now the revision history is fragmented.
I should be able to restore it, but it might break the templates temporarily.
bleak comet
True, I was testing it for a while and missed that.
bleak comet
@rich widget Any ideas how to avoid linebreaks when template:sl uses a hoverbox? Example from module: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=User:Illviljan/cargo&profile=no#Granted_skills_from_items
rich widget
Wikicode automatically puts p tags around certain elements, including div and table
So if you have asdf <table>...</table> asdf, Wikicode will automatically wrap the text on either side of the table in <p> tags, which results in the line breaks you see.
The workaround we are using for item boxes is to output everything as inline tags, like <span>, and then style each element using css.
However, if you must have tables, another workaround could be to load the hover box asynchronously.
grand magnet
maybe this can be fixed with some js to remove the extra p tags
I thought about using some css to inline the following p tag but that would probably cause problems if you actually intend to have a paragraph after
rich widget
Well, that might be difficult to achieve with JS.
I do think loading the hover box content asynchronously could be a viable option. I'm fairly sure there's a way to do it on the wiki.
That might even serve a double benefit of speeding up initial page loads.
grand magnet
Maybe... I've got something that I feel that should work but it does odd things when I use the html
ele = $(element);
var content = '<p>' + ele.prev('p')[0].innerHTML + element.outerHTML + ele.next('p')[0].innerHTML + '</p>';
console.log(content);
ele.prev('p').replaceWith(content);
ele.next('p').remove();
ele.remove();
});```Yeah, I see
sour berry
you can probably use css to collapse adjacent empty paragraphs
bleak comet
@rich widget Ah, the <p>-wrapping might explain why the solutions google suggests aren't really working. The skill link module just outputs the raw infobox html from a cargo field. We just usually use tables when we create most of our infoboxes.
bleak comet
There's a large question mark to the right of the Item acquisition header that links to a page explaining how it works.
shut valve
Read it
I don't know how to edit the automatic generated ones
I'm doing those two sides atm: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Angler's_Plait Baited Expectations, The Penitent, Hubris and Jack in the Box needs to get removed
and
the link between angler's plait here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Baited_Expectations
Guess, I'm too dumb to find what I need idk
jade narwhal
The wiki has no information about the effect of duration on the Cremation gem. Does anyone knows if it's always the same amount of projectiles over its time or increasing duration will also increase the total amount of projectiles?
proven panther
you could probably test it yourself by recording a video before and after less duration / increased duration, counting the total number of projectiles manually
considering the number of geysers is capped at 3 I doubt increasing the duration is particularly useful though
flat eagle
!wiki
sonic solarBOT
Semantic Mediawiki (SMW) has been disabled on the PoE wiki due to recent major issues it has caused across the Gamepedia network. Due to the widespread use of SMW within the PoE wiki, a large portion of the pages will appear broken or show errors. The wiki community admins and Curse are aware of the issue and are looking into solutions.
raven bluff
I think that message is outdated
bleak comet
just a couple of years.
sour berry
there's bots that pull wiki pages but not on this server
flat eagle
but then why the channel
inner patio
โPlease discuss issues or requests for the wiki here!โ
grand magnet
@shut valve Ok, divination cards should not longer show up on corrupted items unless the card gives a corrupted item
... pages will need null-edits for this change to occur
blissful furnace
shut valve
@grand magnet , thanks! Could you give me a step by step explanation how you did it (or a video if possible)? I couldn't find any data, doesn't matter if the data was automatically generated or manually typed in
grand magnet
... this was something that has been fixed at the module level. It was done by making sure that all items that are corrupted can no longer be generated by cards and the cards that give corrupted items have this restriction overriden
random valley
Hey - I'm a n00b to wikis in general and am having trouble understanding how to add a gem as a quest reward (barrage support for shadow on eternal nightmare). I've been reading through modules and pages sources but haven't been able to figure out how to add it as a quest reward. Any tips or advice? Thanks!
bleak comet
@random valley https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Quest_reward
Follow the links to the data pages.
It's supposed to be updated by bots but GGG likes to change how they do stuff all the time.
normal steppe
did drop The Escape card off Uul Nethol (boss itself) doesn't show on the wiki
random valley
you should add it!
I think something is up with the quest module data. E.g. siege ballista for ranger is correctly associated with merveil quest on the data page but it shows up as from the rhoa quest (breaking some eggs) everywhere else on the wiki
any tips on how to debug?
same with barrage support for shadow like I mentioned above.
bleak comet
Try null editing the pages.
Might take a while before the other pages updates otherwise.
random valley
will do thx
normal steppe
the thing is idk how ๐ I'm just a user of the wiki :3
acoustic skiff
will this ever be added on too? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:RecoverEnergyShieldPercentOnBlockUber1 just noticing its just a bunch of side stats with no more info outside that or is it all thats needed
gusty hedge
@acoustic skiff what were you thinking in regards to "added on"?
acoustic skiff
i was thinking about maybe what map mods would affect the certain elder or shaper etc mod
idk im not used to wiki
gusty hedge
The Modifier: special pages are just data-mined info about a mod that could show up on something.
So a map can have a set of modifiers. Each of those modifiers you may be able to find an associated modifier special page that describes the modifier
With that said, that kind of information is littered through the other wiki pages already
If you had any specific ways you wanted to see it formatted, maybe that's something that could be added... but I think you'd need to have an idea of what you'd want to see. (it might already exist)
elder raft
I feel like we need a "Proportional Added Damage Effectiveness" column on spells.
A spell with 50% ADE and 100 base dmg, gets 100% more dmg from 200 flat phys.
A spell with 200% ADE but 1000 base dmg only gets 40% more from 200 flat phys.
'PADE' would balance out ADE vs the existing base dmg of the spell.
limber nova
wiki champs
anybody know if the shield charge gem info was updated?
I can see that the circle aoe is 16 right now, patch notes say it has been doubled, so was it doubled from 8 and has been updated to 16, or is it being doubled from 16 and needs to be updated to 32?
grand magnet
check history of the page
... and effectivness of added damage is on the spells where it isn't 100%
not sure what you want to be added
You can add any arbitrary amount of damage to a spell so it's really up to you to do the math
proven panther
I'm the one that added that radius information, and honestly I'm not even sure it's correct anymore after the rework that changed the end animation into a cone instead of a circle
the 8/16 radius stuff is from 2.3.0e, which obviously is extremely outdated compared to shield charge today: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4n3aod/forum_patch_notes_230e_patch_notes/d40hmoq/
fallen ferry
hey guys found small error on wiki
where to report
only one number typo looks like, instead of 149032822 must be 149032391
all other numbers good
fallen ferry
anyone?
bleak comet
Feel free to correct it.
brisk pewter
hey can someone help me get a edit into the wiki
Found the Dropspot of the The Tinkerers table its Cemetery
bleak comet
@brisk pewter There's a question mark on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Tinkerer's_Table to the right of the Item acquisition header. Click on it and you will be linked to a guide.
raven bluff
@brisk pewter FWIW, that card has been reported as dropping from a bunch of different places. It isn't just one map
It might be some specific type of monster or encounter. But it isn't the map
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fiec0a/the_tinkerers_table_drops_on_alleyways/ has a bunch of reports of other maps it's been found in
(Ignore the title, it's not just Alleyways either.)
woeful steeple
we we
crisp briar
Blood Magic Support
will affect both the cost you pay to use the skill, and the cost the resulting spectre pays to use its own skill. This can help certain spectres such as Carnage Chieftains use their skills more often.
it true or false ?
rich widget
Do you have a question about the wiki, or something to contribute? If not, you'll want to ask your question in one of the help channels.
crisp briar
This can help certain spectres such as Carnage Chieftains use their skills more often ?
Do you have a question about the wiki, or something to contribute? If not, you'll want to ask your question in one of the help channels.
@rich widget Yes
It's questions about wiki.
rich widget
Are you asking why there isn't a reference for that statement?
crisp briar
No
My questions is this description about this is correct ?
It's incorrect info ?
rich widget
Can you verify the accuracy of it?
crisp briar
Have this machining in game ?
I can't.
I don't know about this
Who can confirm this machining is working ?
Or have this machining in game on Spectre Skill ?
rich widget
The example it gives is Carnage Chieftans, who have a low amount of mana. You should be able to notice a difference in the frequency they use their shout skill if you link Raise Spectre to Blood Magic Support.
crisp briar
Yes i guess If Carnage Chieftans spectre link with Blood Magic and summoned Chieftans spectre have aggressive to cast frenzy warcry skill.
This is True ?
rich widget
I don't understand the question.
crisp briar
This can help certain spectres such as Carnage Chieftains use their skills more often.
This is my questions. On this line it's True ?
Carnage Chieftains use their skills more often. when link with Blood Magic
It's true or Is a matter that we consider ourselves
rich widget
According to the article, it should work. Why don't you try it and report back?
crisp briar
I never play Spectre
rich widget
You could also ask in one of the help channels
crisp briar
In help channels not help
surreal coyote
Mobs have mana and if that's empty they can't cast. Linking blood magic then solves that issue as they can spam away.
broken star
shouldnt the uniques added in 3.10 be in the delirium league page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Timeline_of_unique_items#Version_3.10.0
like shouldnt Algor Mortis, Assailum, Beacon of Madness, Profane Proxy and Split Personality be added to the page
radiant summit
@flat eagle this isn't wiki related, and that also isn't spam
you listed an item and therefore you're going to get requests for your item
summer oxide
Hey guys does anyone play a Duelist with the Doriani Glorious Vanity jewel and Corrupted Soul passive?
distant trellis
hye
wooden mural
Hey how do I edit item acquisition on wiki?
Trying to add Council of Cats drop location into the wiki, or rather whats the proper syntax on source to make it show up
rich widget
The question mark to the right of the item acquisition heading links to a guide for how to edit it.
wooden mural
Thank you, someone has filled it in already. Thanks who ever it was
wooden mural
Whats the ID of Eradicator
fresh plaza
Hey there, first post here for me, so hey everyone.
I think I found a minor error in the wiki page concerning the all ears achievmentยน. For act 4 it statet "Act 4 has 73 lore points and [...]". If my calculations/spreedsheet is correct it should be 72 lore points for act 4. Also if there are 73 then the sum of all lore points is 510 instead of the 509 needed.
Regards and thx for your work /me
ยน https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/All_Ears#Act_4
jade mica
featured article image points to Immortal Syndicate instead of cluster Jewels
rich widget
@jade mica Fixed. Thanks.
raven bluff
@fresh plaza In-game achievement list shows a total of 505 points for All Ears, though?
quaint ore
hey guys, i wanted to check what are the differences between awakened CoC and regualr CoC and I think the awakened CoC page shows regular CoC stats because I don't see any differences?
grand magnet
There is a bit of a problem with some of the trigger skills that don't have their scaling in the data anymore, at least not the way it used to be
grand magnet
I'll see if I can fix it
The cause seems to be that they changed some skill gems to have a secondary skill (like the vaal gems) and the trigger effect seems to be a secondary
broken tartan
grand magnet
I'll look into that tommorow. Pretty sure this was working correctly before hmm
flat eagle
anyone gonna fix this ?
crimson sundial
Does this still work in 3.10 ?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Races
Also: What is the reason to divide by Act instead of char? This makes reading while playing one class pretty hard.
ok. nvm. this is not a complete list of all acts. Guess I register some day and add a racing list again
toxic stone
Getting the mobile version of the site on desktop.
grand magnet
hit desktop view on the bottom of the page
toxic stone
thank you, the ad was covering that
raven bluff
@crimson sundial The page could probably be improved, but it's kind of a moot point since there haven't been any official races since 2016.
Not sure what you mean by "add a racing list". The page is listing information about how the game handled alternate start races. There has never been an alternate-start race starting later than act 3 (in large part because the game only had 4 acts when races were last held), so there is no data for "those acts"
grand magnet
I can basically export the race characters from the data, but as It That Barks says there hasn't been races in a long time
and most the these premade chars are used for press demos I believe these days
though I suppose there are still those premade PVP chars
I haven't checked that in ages if they are still there
raven bluff
IIRC, the PVP-only characters don't have gear or anything, you just start at level 28 with a bunch of unallocated skill points
grand magnet
they are variants that have gear and skils
those items can neither be modified, traded or sold though, only destroyed
IDK if they removed them though I haven't cared about the pvp stuff ever
raven bluff
Huh, weird. Goes to show about how much attention I pay to pvp. 
sour berry
you could make infinite wisdom scrolls by socketed gems off the bound characters at some point
raven bluff
... actually, do PvP-only characters still exist? I can't see an option to create them anymore
still swift
yeah, choose a league and it's a button by name creation
raven bluff
@still swift Ah, thanks, I was expecting it to be on the league select screen
full bluff
I don't know how to edit it properly, but Shadows aren't able purchase Fire Penetration Support from Clarissa.
Tried to understand the Item Acquisition edit page and it's way over my head.
grand magnet
I'll fix it later, the npc is incorrect, it should be siosa
vague grove
Hey @grand magnet I see you did some changes to module:Item_table I'm not sure if those are the cause but quite a few of the unique item lists arent working now
rose verge
How can I do a cargo query on the wiki to see a table of minion stats as level changes? Not for adding to any pages, just for personal use.
bleak comet
There's no simple way to do that. You need to do multiple queries and combine them together and then do some guesstimating. You can play around with the WIP template here though: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/User:OmegaK2/test5
rose verge
Ah! I think I understand. Even with multiple queries it's not possible since quite a bit of the calculations are in the javascript. I was trying to do it with #cargo_query which just returns the base data.
full bluff
I don't know how to edit it properly, but Witches aren't able purchase Feeding Frenzy Support from Clarissa in Act 3.
elfin violet
yes they are, you have to do the side quest in library first @full bluff
full bluff
The Wiki says you purchase from Clarissa and that isn't correct. I've been running into a lot of these where the Wiki is wrong on the NPC that you purchase skill gems from. I just don't know how to edit the Wiki to make it right as I discover these.
elfin violet
how is this wrong? you can buy it from clarissa after doing the quest in the library @full bluff
after you do "A fixture of fate" (the quest in the library) clarrisa will sell the gem
just as more proof:
still swift
you never get the original feeding frenzy gem from her, just a mirrored copy
full bluff
Oh I see. I thought the Fixture of Fate quest just gave you access to buy from Siosa. Sorry for the ignorance!
stray rapids
Try the librarian he sells all skill gems
devout loom
so can anyone edit or is there a protocol which we ask the green name here to request fixes/changes ?
Also, Bree and and Crit. Perhaps there is a language barrier that needs to be addressed in that specific part of the wiki? Does it need extra information to say something like "you can buy it after doing X ? "
bleak comet
Anyone with an account can edit.
elfin violet
I mean it says "this item can be bought at the listed npc vendors after completing the following quests"
rich widget
What about this?
"The following table shows which classes can purchase this item from the listed vendors after completing a specific quest."
rose verge
The core of the issue is really people do not expect a quest for one merchant to affect what another merchant sells, along with liberal skim reading. No one reads all the words on a page, and the more there are the more likely people are to skim. There is a valid usability issue, if very minor, and there probably is a solution, but I can't think of one.
I had the exact same issue a few weeks back, though thankfully realised how it worked before asking awkward questions on discord.
flat eagle
so basically your argument is people are stupid therefor we should cater to stupidity
still swift
making clear explanations is probably a good step to having a welcoming resource for new players
flat eagle
this game is brimming with new players catering to them is not the way to go. They understand after the first 5 minutes that the game is complex as shit. If they stay for longer they know that it will only get deeper
still swift
do you think that the players who quit in the first 5 minutes are the type to seek out a community wiki for gem explanations? people who go to the wiki are probably willing to learn and seek information, idk what the issue is with having clear explanations. how obtuse do you want it?
rose verge
@flat eagle Good UI designs around human shortcomings. That's what makes it good UI.
grand magnet
Someone argued on reddit a while ago we should remove the math on wiki because he can't do high school math... some people have silly expectations. Though if there is constructive feedback on how to improve certain things I'm all ears.
also it says right above the table "This item can be bought at the listed npc vendors after completing the following quests" if you ignore the text and then complain it's on you ... :/