I'm getting a "500 Internal Server Error" when I try to preview or save a Skill Gem Article.
#wiki
heady jetty
languid grotto
Apparently The Wind card still drops in Jungle Valley in 3.1. Just had it drop off the boss
heady jetty
@languid grotto I've edited the article accordingly.
sinful glade
Any word on when the bosses section on map articles will be fixed?
bleak comet
Over time, when editors add info there.
languid grotto
The Soul (Soul Taker card) drops from Tribunal dropped from a blue mob
spring pumice
oak yoke
For a community manager his messages seem somewhat clueless
winged flare
strange saffron
cinder coyote
@strange saffron
long berry
Do any of you know if the drop table is accurate for Bone Helmets? I just got one off a Dark Forest boss, doesn't appear to be on the list https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bone_Helmet
heady jetty
@long berry Those drop results are just what got reported so far, so if it is an uncommon item the lists are usually not complete.
strange saffron
loading.....
bleak comet
Template include size is too large. It's just too much info at the moment.
autumn jolt
while we're here, Armour and Evasion Two-Toned boots drop in lighthouse.
autumn jolt
Evasion and energy shield Two-tone boots drop in pit, Villa
minor plaza
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aura#Aura_skill_gems
In this page is still a lua error
tulip temple
hello! how to change requirements on this page? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_body_armours
because plate vest has no requirements
on wiki
poe.trade
heady jetty
well, lvl 1 and no requirements are basically the same. It does not say so in the plate vest wiki article, but it makes sense in the table because otherwise sorting for level requirement would be a pain.
sullen lake
the game doesnt show attribute requirements that are below your classes starting attributes
so it likely does have a requirement of 12 str but does not display it
@tulip temple
grand magnet
btw the requirement, although hidden still affects chromatic rolls afaik 😛
sullen lake
yeah should though ones that low wont mage a huge difference i imagine
grand magnet
it's fairly significiant when you try to roll 4 off colours for example
like 4R in goldrim
tulip temple
ah, ty for explanation
jaunty wigeon
Omega_K2 and Illviljan may already know this change. Just making sure that everyone does.
Advertisement setup change
Tuesday, February 20th (3pm Eastern)
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At the top of the ad siderail, you’ll see a new video unit which serves up a combination of ads and Gamepedia news/blog content.
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This means:
- Fewer ads (2 units are being replaced by 1)
- Chance for a “bad ad” is very low (near zero)
- Better site performance (shouldn’t see the forever loading issue anymore!)
- The siderail width increases by 100 pixels (some tables will need to be adjusted, especially those with the fixed width defined parameter)
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If you have any questions, feel free to ask and don't forget to leave me a mention!
desert rover
the soul of aberath should be remove because it's actually hits
and also it's sounding extremely vague "can also help with ultimate death breath"
it's either completely nulify or doesn't work at all (which is the case)
desert rover
but it's not actually a burning ground degen though
it's a fire spells that hits
is it better to remove that from the wiki, then leave what could potentially be wrong info in?
sullen lake
kitava does create burning ground. maybe the name is wrong but he creates burning ground
tulip temple
bleak comet
There's no item with the name "pageEber's Key". That's why it is showing the error.
grand magnet
Reading the error message helps sometimes
grand magnet
@bleak comet do you renember what the conditions in [[Concept:Skills_dealing_damage]] were?
light linden
Anyone know why basalt flask doesn't list its patch note where it was changed from 20% to 15% ?
sullen lake
Presumably because that's entered manually and no one bothered
bleak comet
@grand magnet No, unfortunately not. I only remembered it was a tricky one, that didn't work that great.
grand magnet
yeah I just went with spell base dmg in the stat so I hope that covers stuff for that purpose
I think we used it elsewhere though where it was more complicated then spells that also use dmg effectivness
heady barn
Wiki busted for anyone else?
I tried restarting browser, tried accessing other pages, tried hard refreshing
Restarted comp, still the same
hollow prawn
I'm getting 502 errors
elfin violet
hollow prawn
yeah, that's what I get when I go directly to a page from google
and using the search gave me 502/bad gateway
stark elm
Why is Hierophant wiki changed to the 3.2 values before we get patch notes? I was trying to compare 3.1 to 3.2 but 3.1 isn't there.
Berserker has been changed too\
sullen lake
view the history of the page then i guess
stark elm
Chieftan too
I think someone got overzealous and changed them all
Yep, all of them are changed to the 3.2 values. GGG said that the balance is still ongoing so I think they should be reverted for now.
bleak comet
See the section Version history.
stark elm
Yeah, I see the history, but the changes aren't released or even final yet. No reason for them to be on wiki
Maybe another section for "3.2 teases"
bleak comet
Highly likely "3.2.0 teasers" won't be removed come 3.2.0
fossil phoenix
i dont know why people change stuff before "GGG" release patch notice.
You can edit wiki when servers goes down before new league start. 
Enough time.
full wharf
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Scaeva has the info for Prismatic Eclipse. Does that happen for anyone else?
heady jetty
@full wharf yes. Can't see why at the moment.
rich widget
The featured section on the main page shows The Pantheon. Is it time to update to something new? If so, what should I change it to?
rigid anchor
anyone know why this table isn't working?
the code seems the same as the one below and it's fine
grand magnet
I'll look into that error
Started exporting 3.2.0 modifier data to the wiki. Only took some hours of prep lol
lethal shoal
it says it isnt sold by any vendor
lilly roth in act 6 can sell it
and so does siosa in act 3
heady jetty
@lethal shoal fixed. It was a remnant of SMW. If you see an issue like that again with gems, the two lines:
|filter_by_reward={{#show: {{PAGENAME}}|?Has name}}
need to be changed to
|filter_by_reward={{PAGENAME}}
lethal shoal
okay
heady jetty
I edited a ton of gems a while ago, it seems I missed slower proj for some reason
distant olive
strange saffron
Hello.
The people, who of you uses AutoWikiBrowser?
jaunty wigeon
strange saffron
@jaunty wigeon Thanks of course, there was a problem with the entrance, but I already decided.
Thanks again.
lethal shoal
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki the featured pantheon picture is actually a nude edit of it
not sure how or why but ok
bleak comet
There are multiple iterations of that artwork released to the public.
viscid blaze
on kitava's thirst it could probly use a specific mention that triggered skills aren't 'aimed' for things like ice nova frostbolt
https://gyazo.com/84a6192779227ac8021f0234d549e49d
pine flame
pledge of hands
royal oracle
I just added a mechanics tab to Saqawal's Flock page stating that being granted the Avian's Might or Avian's Flight from a nearby allied through Saqawal's Nest does not activate the tornadoes.
I found this out from woolfio testing it on stream but I don't know how I would make a reference for proving this is correct. 🤔 how would I go about referring or is it okey like that?
grand magnet
If there is a recording of that use https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Cite_web to add it as a source
royal oracle
@grand magnet thanks ^^ added a clip to it
rough lichen
is there something broken with the wiki style? or did it change recently?
rough lichen
Resolved, the default wiki style version seems to be the mobile one right now, you can change it with the "Desktop view" link at the bottom.
keen parrot
hello ! I saw this on the wiki while looking for beasts to capture :
Both scorpions are in the Desert Spring map, just before the final room of the boss. I didnt know where to put that info, hopefully it's ok here 😛
heady jetty
keen parrot
great thank you ! 😃
plucky dew
this might be more of a cargo question but how do i join tables in cargo if there's no unique/primary key for the representing tables? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Righteous_Fire?action=pagevalues this as a for instance, if i wanted to join the skill_gems table with the items table, there's no "item_id" column to use to join them right?
grand magnet
_pageID or _pageName on both tables
plucky dew
@grand magnet thank you!!! it worked perfectly i appreciate it
sour berry
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_utility_flasks doesn't show coralito's signature, possibly due to internal category?
grand magnet
it has different item class and the list here for that is here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_critical_utility_flasks
sour berry
should be added to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_flasks in that case
ripe pawn
OK so, I don't believe the 3.2 change to Sunblast (removing the "traps trigger at the end of their duration" mod) actually left any legacy versions in existence, despite what it says in the wiki
I haven't played standard since the league started and I have a sunblast in my stash without the mod.
Indexer lists some on standard that still have the mod but I had a hunch that those are just people who haven't logged into standard, and that maybe the premium tabs don't update unless you load them in game
and I /whois'd a few of them, all in Bestiary, which supports said hunch
Ah actually I just 100% confirmed it, duh. 3 month old listing without the mod. Changing the wiki now.
grand magnet
@sour berry agreed, added
ember raptor
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bloodlust_Support page is broken
heady jetty
@ember raptor I don't see an issue, what's up with that page for you?
bleak comet
Skill module was crashing support gems.
ember raptor
there was something something module failure and the overview for the gem didn't show up, it's fine now tho, somebody probably fixed it
glacial smelt
anyone can tell me how to summon Craiceann, First of the Deep
oak yoke
You capture a specific red beast, that allows you to beastcraft a portal to Craicean's Cove
glacial smelt
yea read that
now I need to find where is Craicic Spider Crab
wish wiki was up to date..
oak yoke
Wiki is mostly up to date and you don't have a specific place to find it, since it's a random spawn
flat eagle
is it just me or does the wiki look really bad now
stone crater
wiki so far so good, any problem?
tender jackal
there are ugly cases resulting from horrible naming conventions adopted by GGG at some point
for instance all of the tables in https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Enchantment
The mod ID's are probably not the best thing to display there,
and it misses out grouping the enchantments
I just finished an update to the item modifiers template so it will also display the available enchantments
and manged to get it group somewhat nicely, Ideally helm enchants would additionally group by the skill they affect
mental grove
grouping up glove enchants seem bad when trying to compare them lol
abstract maple
I removed the Intricate Locker from the wiki, since it is no longer in the lab as of 3.0
real bramble
did the new update remove drop locations for the kings heart divination card? it currently lists a few maps but i got one in the coast act 6 a few weeks ago
bleak comet
No. No one just hasn't added it in there yet.
weak basalt
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Rebirth_(divination_card)
Got one to drop in The Vastiri Desert too
royal oracle
Pure talent says you get 100% of attack damage leeched as life 😛 don't know how to edit to fix this one
mild osprey
@weak basalt added
mild osprey
no it should show now, I still need to add the card to the vastiri desert page though
weak basalt
I see, thanks again :D
mild osprey
ok should all show up now 😃
weak basalt
👌
heady jetty
Pure Talent fixed.
mild osprey
is there a list of items giving levels to gems somewhere?
heady jetty
@mild osprey There is now.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Skill_gem#Unique_items
mild osprey
nice thanks a lot!
mhhh some shields seem to be missing from the list namely magna eclipsis, its components, and prism guardian
heady jetty
I'll have a look, the mod might have an unusual format
@mild osprey Should be fixed. The query limit was too low to display all results.
mild osprey
yep working now thanks! 
zinc kernel
Hello can anyone tell me why does Wiki on my firefox looks scrambled compared to the normal, (i usually use chrome)
this is what it looks like from chrome
grand magnet
I believe there is a button at the bottom somewhere that says "switch to desktop version" if you see the mobile one for some reason
zinc kernel
oh Thanks a lot
flat eagle
desktop is what you're looking for
tulip temple
I don't know how to change "?". Need help https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Blind_Faith
?=Haunted Mansion Map (War for the Atlas)
flat eagle
Fixed, null edited the page
mild osprey
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_skill the unique items section erroneously lists atziri's acuity
weak basalt
Guessing because the word Vaal is in it
flat eagle
Vaal Pact. Technically a ""skill"" for the gloves, although it's actually a keystone.
tho yep that's what I guessed too
heady jetty
Vaal_Skill fixed, it no longer lists Acuity
flat eagle
👍🏾
static fulcrum
hmm got free sub to gamepedia pro or some shit for being wiki editor and it says it auto renews as long as im active (forever i guess). does gamepedia pro have anything actually useful?
damn twitch intergration was the worst shit ever. i have to clear cookies every time i login cause i have 2 twitch accounts. one for bullshit like curse one for actual streaming
wont let me login cause it keeps saying "Oops!
You've already merged a Twitch account with this Gamepedia account." yeah no shit. thats why im trying to login to my account
oh i thought i was special for a minute. looks like pro is free for everyone. weird it took years to get it tho as i was a heavy contrib to terraria wiki for literally years on end
flat eagle
dang
heady jetty
@static fulcrum Everyone who edits the wiki regularly enough gets PRO, which means no adds even if you don't use add blockers (and you get the PRO tag). It has been there for a while, but recently they started notifying you per mail about it.
bleak comet
Isn't Pro quite new? Only 2-3 years? Might've been before sinxars time.
heady jetty
being there for years qualifies as "been there for a while" for me 😃
but yes, might have been before his time
bleak comet
When you're jumping between games the years can start rack up quickly...
heady jetty
I'm quite sure though that I had it long before I was getting mails about it, that seems to be something of the last half year or even shorter than that.
bleak comet
Maybe I don't remember, it didn't make any difference for me...
So it wasn't that memorable. 😉
There some perks though even if you have adblockers. They remove the frame for the adblocks as well, it looks a bit better.
heady jetty
@static fulcrum also, about the cookie issue: Check if you are allowing and keeping cookies for pathofexile.gamepedia.com. I barely use twitch and don't have two accounts like you, so I can't exactly reproduce the issue, but I don't keep any twitch cookies on closing firefox, I just keep a few selected ones, and nevertheless I stay logged in into the wiki for a month or so with the pathofexile.gamepedia.com cookie after using the twitch login.
bleak comet
I have two accounts and I don't have any issues with that.
Maybe because I never log out? I only had issues when I refused to create a new twitch account.
static fulcrum
idk maybe @bleak comet I use a different account for actually using twitch and have to logout to use curse services and login with other account. curse doesn't get the message though and have to clear cookies to login. I mean i could just stop using twitch as nobody watches and i don't watch anyone anymore anyway.
flat eagle
any idea why the 70+ Gem Frog + Craicic Presence wont show up in the spit recipe?
heady jetty
@flat eagle ingame, or is there some wiki page about it?
The order of the beasts with their ilvl is an issue. There are several bug reports about it, for example here:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2111969
There is also a reddit thread about it with a few methods to avoid the issue:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/85cqvi/split_item_beastcraft_bug_workaround_this_will/
quaint seal
Why do I get phishing warnings everytime I go on wikipedia
Looking up gems and etc 🤔
severe kelp
Is the wiki wrong for div cards? I just got a "Call to the first ones" in (shaped) graveyard, while the wiki says its only in infested valley?
oak yoke
Not all drop sources are listed out there
bleak comet
Not all people that finds new drop areas adds them to the list.
subtle lava
Almost all div card are changed each league and the wiki aren't supplied by GGG true database
spiral kindle
I'm trying to grab data from a Python script through Cargo. What do I connect to to make a query?
spiral kindle
just figured it out
olive iron
So upon looking at wiki just now, I'm shocked to see an ad for a currency selling site there.
That's wack
Creating the wiki is a service to the community seeking info.
Why would you do a disservice to the game itself by allowing rmt site ads.
?*
grand magnet
olive iron
Ahh my bad ,thought that would be directly controlled by you guys for some reason.. thanks
subtle lava
There's also problem in PoE YouTube channel, recommending RMT channel without any control from channel owner
flat eagle
Is wiki down ?
grand magnet
Nope
But there have been some issues afaik which curse is working on so that might be why it has been down for you
jaunty wigeon
@flat eagle @grand magnet There was an outage this morning, it cleared up ~3pm gmt.
weak basalt
Is this due to that curse issue?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aidan_the_Frenzied
bleak comet
Nope, the template was looking for a page called Tropical Island Map that has an item. That specific page doesn't have an item and therefore you see that error.
grim compass
The last section on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor seems a bit outdated.
grand magnet
feel free to update it
rustic falcon
I'm having a real hard time understanding how to fetch data from the wiki and get it in a json format, would someone be so kind to explain how to do a couple things or point me to an in depth guide? Say I wanted to get all gems and retrieve this information: name, starting level requirement, primary attribute... what would the process be to do that? I tried using a cargoquery for the skill_gem table, but I don't see how to get the name or level requirement, the only field I see available for this table that I need is primary_attribute... 😦
grand magnet
connect relevant tables via join
rich widget
I noticed that the modifier link template breaks when the mod effect includes any kind of markup, as seen here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Poison#Removal_and_immunity
I can work on implementing a better tooltip that allows for this kind of content.
bleak comet
hmm, that didn't happen before, something has changed since it was edited in. Feel free to improve it. It's using the abbr-template for default settings, there's a Tooltip-template as well, don't think I tried that one.
abstract maple
So, incinerate is a little screwed up right now
grand magnet
change it to chain support
abstract maple
Ah ok, I dont have an account, but I wasnt sure what was going on there
whole iron
grand magnet
seems like a bug in cargo I can look if I can somehow fix or work around that
royal oracle
you do gods work Omega_K2 ❤
grand magnet
as per the site notice:
There is a bug in cargo that busted the name list functionality for items, resulting in wrong/random items being returned for {{Il}} (item links).
For the time being, item links will use the exact item name for searching. This will result in some older instances of item links no longer working, in particular when legacy names are used (e.x. Pierce instead of Pierce Support).
Item links still showing incorrect items should be fixable by null-editing, while errors (red text) relating to the items not being found can be fixed manually by changing the parameter to the full name (see the template for details).
I'll look into fixing broken legacy links to supports per bot tommorow
twin gale
@grand magnet I've been thinking that in the wiki when you search something, it should lead to the most common search. A bit subjective I know but what I mean is that:
Map name => Current Map
Skill Gem Partial Name (say without support) => Skill Gem (over buff/debuff or passive skill node)
We could then have the usual link to the disambiguation page or other case (when there is only one). This would put us more in line with wikipedia too, that presents the most common case as well.
I just feel like 90% of the time I am searching for where to obtain skill gems, what the stat requirements are on a skill gem, or what maps turn into what maps or cards drop in a map. Sure I look up mechanics too when making builds but this is the lower use case. And certainly wouldn't be the beginner's use case.
@grand magnet what do you think?
I also suggest that we install TitleKey mediawiki extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleKey so that searches are case insensitive. We have a lot of redirects in place because of capitalization messing with searches. I know I've installed it with great success on many of my own wikis.
grand magnet
Don't really have any control over the search, but as far as the extension goes I can talk to curse about it
twin gale
@grand magnet what do you mean no control?
@grand magnet I mean that https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map should be a redirect to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas), and at the top of that page there should be a link to a disambiguation page Strand_Map_(Disambiguation) which would have the contents currently on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map
grand magnet
Oh, I thought you meant the search bar
twin gale
well, it ends up changing how the search bar behaves
bleak comet
Not possible to do that dynamically
twin gale
when you search for titles
but yes I am talking about how we structure/organize the pages, redirects and disambiguations
grand magnet
Illviljan pretty sure it's fine for maps at least, support gems probably as well
twin gale
not any kind of coding
bleak comet
Redirects can't change dynamically. Changing redirects manually or with a bot though works of course. IF you like that kind of thing.
twin gale
@bleak comet oh, I was just going to do it manually
as I run into them at the very least
bleak comet
200+ maps feel free to that "every" league
twin gale
given the inconsistencies in disambiguation pages right now, it seems like nothing is done automatically anyways?
@bleak comet and it wouldn't change "every" league, but I know what you mean.
and the support gems would likely not change at all
grand magnet
twin gale
@grand magnet oooooo
can you #REDIRECT {{template_call}}?
I don't think I've ever tried
twin gale
how do you migrate map pages currently? a bot?
grand magnet
the main item pages are maintained based on their name + map series version, fixing redirects/adding map disambigution is more of a one time bot thing
twin gale
ok. Is that a reasonable addition to the one time bot work? I wouldn't be the one doing it so I certainly can't make that call
I just don't find the current 2 step process to get at a map that great. I search for a map's exact name, get the disambig, then have to click on the right league. And each disambig sorts the maps in a different order even.
grand magnet
there was a discussion on the community portal specifically about map redirects: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki_talk:Community_portal#Map_redirects
bleak comet
Yes, because you can't dynamiccaly change the redirects. And there's no release version for a lot of the maps so there's no super obvious way to sort them.
grand magnet
Nobody brought up the argument about the built-in wiki search though
bleak comet
Can of course do some manual hack with a table and sort against. To get the correct map order.
twin gale
well if we always have the release version in the map name, that sorts out that problem
the bot that currently would create/add the current release map to all the disambig pages could also change the redirect
bleak comet
You're saying different map variants should have different release versions? That doesn't make sense either.
twin gale
so it's a one time cost of making sure every map has a disambig and a league version
grand magnet
He just means replaciing the xxx Map with a redirect to the current war for the atlas version
I suspect you have something similar to wiki pedia in mind, where at the top of the redreceted page it says
"xxx Map redirects here., see xxx Map (disambiguation) for more"
twin gale
@bleak comet I mean that we should have:
A redirect to the current variant: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map
A page for each variant: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas)
A disambig listing all variants, linked at the top of each variant: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map_(Disambiguation)
@grand magnet yes exactly
like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles
bleak comet
You were also mentioning the order of the map disambiguation tables, I addressed that.
twin gale
This article is about the current version of the map. For other versions, see Strand Map (disambiguation).
bleak comet
I don't mind that it just requires work that I suspect won't be done everytime...
twin gale
and of course doing the same thing to support gems would be a one-time cost, won't ever change.
grand magnet
It's not much more work compared to now @bleak comet and pretty bot-doable
bleak comet
This is not a new request...
twin gale
right now we prioritise buffs and passive tree nodes as the primary article over skill gems, which at least to me seems a bit silly
sorry I'm still reading the wiki talk page.
grand magnet
I'd suggest though that you make a new thread on the community portal about this finlay, I'd want to hear what other people think first, but I generally think it's ok to do
grand magnet
I'd make a new one since this isn't specific to maps and about disambiguation pages and redirects in general
twin gale
ok, will do. Thanks for the input and consideration
should I create another thread for the TitleKey extension too?
twin gale
yeah when on a wiki I administered they started creating redirects for every possible combination for multi-word capitalisation, I knew something had to be done. And I've noticed that has started to happen in PoE wiki too. Wikipedia uses TitleKey to solve it.
grand magnet
I tend to use google out of habit if I really need to search for anything
it tends to trump any site-based search functions 95% ofthe time
twin gale
ooooo nice find @bleak comet
grand magnet
for everything that is not on https://help.gamepedia.com/Extensions
GP's platform staff needs to check the extension so it doesn't cause trouble
twin gale
Omega did you just break the wiki search with a template edit? search in quick top right area of effect
grand magnet
?
twin gale
gives a huge cargo backtrace
grand magnet
where
twin gale
oh wait a sec, it actually sent me to the page
it's the PAGE itself that is a backtrace, not the search, my bad. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area_of_effect
grand magnet
I see
twin gale
@grand magnet @bleak comet posted https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki_talk:Community_portal#Disambiguation_Pages_and_Redirects
feels a bit long winded, but hopefully people get what I mean
grand magnet
@bleak comet did you run into "unclosed string literal" errors when using regexp?
oh right I fogot it's due to the pipes in wikitext >_<
grand magnet
@twin gale seems like TitleKey is no longer on their list of allowed extensions
twin gale
darn!
well I guess it's back to creating 9 different redirect links for Increased Critical Strikes, increased Critical Strikes, increased Critical strikes, etc...
I've haven't been doing it but I have noticed quite a few such redirects already exist
thanks for looking into it @grand magnet
grand magnet
the reason is it seems to be conflicting with the search extension they're using, doesn't seem to be a way either to make it case insensitive.
twin gale
I am sad that I could not get consensus on my talk article for redirects, with two dissenting voices I doubt I can convince them, and I doubt many more will participate. A shame, but I suppose I should not be surprised.
it seems like we can probably do the map redirects, though the concept is the same for support gems. But without search stats and disambig link stats it is very hard to show why the concept makes sense even when it is not directly logical. (only logical once you take direct search page into account)
twin gale
@rich widget well that was a complete waste of time on my part. Sorry for dragging you down into a semantic argument that isn't even core to my proposal. It's too bad we couldn't find consensus, but that is how the cookie crumbles.
for what it's worth, I only made the proposal because I truly believe it would improve the wiki. But of course without consensus, that is likely not the case for everyone (or most).
rich widget
@twin gale I take it you go by Ofbeaton on the wiki. No need to apologize, and I don't take it personally.
I understand that your intention is to improve the wiki. I do agree with your suggestion for map articles. In that case, it is perfectly reasonable to point the map name at the current map version.
twin gale
It's funny, looking through the list, Critical Strike and Area of Effect are the only two pages without a disambig hatnote pointing to the respective support gem. This has now been fixed.
subtle lava
something like this?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shavronne,_Unbound
the boss res are bugged, tho
grand magnet
not really a b ug, just not updated with cargo support
stark moss
Since I have 0 clue how to change pages:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Apex_of_Sacrifice contains an error, where it says 'Layout' -> 5th bullet it tells you about the 3 bosses, however they link to a random Vaal Temple Map instead of their respective pages (who do exist)
grand magnet
@stark moss: login and click edit source button
@warped heath I never heard of anything instantly reverting and being locked. Maybe you're thinking of the spam filter that might errornously trigger? (It won't let you edit). Locking pages (aka protection) can only be done by admins, and it only happens on important pages or vandalism, reverting is something is anyone with an account can do, but most certainly not instantly and should only be done if your edits made no sense or broke something
valid elk
is it okay to post a link on the Molten Burst page to a molten burst DPS calculator I made?
I'm not familiar with wiki etiquette
radiant summit
specifically molten burst? because there is already one on the molten strike page
grand magnet
@valid elk yes but a problem with stuff like this is that it tends to get out dated quickly
slow idol
oak yoke
marble basalt
Is there a way to retrieve an item's image from the cargoquery api ? When I fetch the inventory_icon, I get File:Bazaar Map (War for the Atlas) inventory icon.png. How can I fetch the actual image from this ?
visual frigate
if you navigate to pathofexile.gamepedia.com/<YOUR STRING HERE> you'll get a page that contains a link to the CDN image for that item
but i imagine the CDN is the only place those images are stored
marble basalt
Yes I saw that, I would like to programmatically get that CDN url. Doing that manually for the amount of item I need to handle would not be fun huh.
visual frigate
it doesn't seem to follow any pattern
you can try to CURL that url and grab the link based on where it is in the DOM
if whatever you're building has network access
or do a batch job that grabs all the CDN links from https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Category:Item_icons and periodically updates
marble basalt
I think the scraping will be fallback, if there's no better way of doing it. Thanks for your input 😃
visual frigate
the CDN links seem to have some kind of string like /8/8f or /d/df before the filename
if you can figure out when they use which characters, you can generate it like that
marble basalt
Ya, I did some testing arround that, I did not find any pattern for the "folder-ish" where the file is
visual frigate
e.g. https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/pathofexile_gamepedia/d/df/Piscator's_Vigil_inventory_icon.png is just DOMAIN + "/d/df" + Filename string without "File:"
yeah
same
and you get "Forbidden" if you just punch in something random
marble basalt
the Filename is as is in the alt attribute of the image. would be pretty easy to extract it with a regexp
balmy yacht
why does bitdefender say that https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/pathofexile_gamepedia/d/df/Piscator's_Vigil_inventory_icon.png is a malicious link?
any image on the wiki it says it is malicious
sour berry
it probably doesn't like cloudfront
vernal osprey
anyone know what the base animal of the tiger is?
or do they just appear on any 80+ maps?
oak yoke
Tigers are the base animal for Farrul portal
Since it's a red beast it's a random spawn
However because all tigers are lvl 80+, they only appear in T13+ maps
cerulean flame
Hi, on the page for the green dream/nightmare it shows that for faith and steel the chance is 48%. After looking at it for a bit, I only managed to find
8% Faith and Steel
12% Elementalist
12% Sanctuary
6% + 6% Shield Block and Elemental Resistance with Shields
for a total of
44%. Could someone point out where the last 4% is coming from? or is this an error in the wiki?
Thanks
Seems like path of building doesn't take into account the shield nodes for the green nightmare either, hmm weird
sour berry
did you actually put a shield in your equip set?
cerulean flame
nope
oh, seems like i misunderstood and the conditional only works if i'm using a shield? so using a shield in this case would also add that dodge amount i'm guessing?
that answers one question, still wondering about the other 4%
Also on the map info page, i tested putting 3 shaped belfry and the vendor recipe result is waterways(t11). I hope this helps confirm the upgrade section
grand magnet
that appears to be on the page already
rich widget
Is drop_enabled = false used for items that do not drop but can be obtained in other ways, like with vendor recipes?
grand magnet
it's more along the lines for items that can not be obtained in any normal way like descent items, demigods etc
item lists won't show any drop disabled items by default
I think we could start using drop_level=-1 or so to denote items that don't normally drop from monsters, but you could also make a in via drop_text (which is the catch-all for everything not covered at the moment)
flat eagle
Hi, I would like to know if a French version of the wiki was planned
If this is not the case, I propose to participate - if possible
heady jetty
https://pathofexile-fr.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki exists, but is neither active nor big.
stone crater
http://poedb.tw/fr/ there are some fr resources here if you want to reference
hollow mural
The shaper is Zana's father, yes or no?
sour berry
yep
dreamy leaf
Hello. Does anyone know the new page for the gem abbreviations?
heady jetty
@dreamy leaf Do you mean https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Community_shorthand ?
or the ingame letters/icons
?
For the support gem letter see https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Support_Skill_Gems
dreamy leaf
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Support_Skill_Gems doesn't show me skill gems letters only the mana cost multipliers
heady jetty
@dreamy leaf try refreshing that page again. I made a change to the table before I posted the link earlier, you might have an old version displayed.
dreamy leaf
@heady jetty Alright! Thank you very much.
flat eagle
nini
astral nebula
is something wrong with this page? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Threshold_jewel im only seeing 4 jewels and only 2 are thresholds 😄
heady jetty
@astral nebula I think the backend data-table for that list was wiped and needs to be repopulated. The list is currently filling up again when a respective jewel article is visited/saved.
quiet idol
so just noticed a problem with the wiki (physical damage on soul taker is calculated wrong) but dunno how to edit that. there is only a template where LocalAddedPhysicalDamageOneHandAxe1 is added as explicit2
maybe this is not the only weapon affected
seems like a problem in the calculation, so maybe a general thing
bleak comet
It accounts for 20% quality. have you taken into account?
quiet idol
jeah I know whats missing:
LocalAddedPhysicalDamageOneHandAxe1 is Adds 10 to 20 Physical Damage
but the 20 isn't added
90*2.2 would be min roll resulting in 198
but the wiki shows 154 which is 70*2.2
can one edit templates? or see the source code to begin with
quiet idol
jeah i'm on its page
quiet idol
just checked jack the axe, seems like a general problem with the mod
bleak comet
yep, I looked at Lakishu's blade as well.
grand magnet
Looks like it's wokring fine to me...?
quiet idol
its working fine with wrong values?
grand magnet
Are you saying the modifiers have the wrong ranges on them?
quiet idol
the explicit added phyiscal damage mod's max range isn't taken into account
grand magnet
Oh I see what you mean
quiet idol
as you can see on soul taker the max range should be 198-234
grand magnet
I'll look into what's causing it the stat should be added
later today, I've got other stuff to do, @bleak comet if you want to look at it it might be caused by the stats not being added (line 2262) has the definition for max phys
I dont see anything immediatly wrong with it
quiet idol
would do it myself, but dunno much about templates and modules yet
learning slowly because need to figure things out myself 😮
bleak comet
If you like programming it's based on lua. But this is not the module to start with...
quiet idol
first I need to know on which site I have to look for line 2262 xD
grand magnet
actually I have an idea whats wrong
stat is probably not being queried correctly
since it's not being added to the page either
I'll fix it later
quiet idol
thx, even if I would be keen to learn it, programming is not the problem I'm actually software developer
surreal coyote
but lua arrays start at 1 👻
quiet idol
ok maybe I'll retire then 
grand magnet
Issue should be fixed, I'll null-edit all unique pages via bot to be sure things are updated
grand magnet
regarding the broken thresholds jewels, I've also fixed that. Holds queries are busted, it's a cargo bug, I adjusted the workaround to also account for HOLDS LIKE in queries
bleak comet
You can trust Cargo to always have some new, fun bug up it's sleeve.
grand magnet
well it's the same bug that busted the il stuff
it's just that I forgot that HOLDS LIKE exists 😛
quiet idol
strange that noone noticed this added dmg thingy for so long 😄
grand magnet
It wasn't very long
the dmg thing would have been wrong for about two days
It was actually caused by a workaround for a cargo bug that I thought I had removed already but didn't apprently
(an older bug that was causing duplicates in the data. Which is fixed for the most part ,except for cargo list fields)
vivid fox
rich widget
Is this the proper way to display item acquisition for league-specific items, or do I also use |drop_text=? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=User:Vinifera7/test2&profile=no
lapis mulch
grand magnet
@rich widget yeah just use drop_leagues when the league needs to be active for the items to drop, also I haven't stripped cargo out of user pages, don't use the item template on those if you can avoid though
rich widget
Does the item template include a property for shaper/elder items?
bleak comet
Base items has an additional item tag. Uniques can be queried if they have proper drop restrictions added.
quiet idol
so I want to add a drop area to the inventor, how can I find out what the area for vaal temple is called?
got it, its on the vaal temple page
cobalt valve
the quest rewards seem to be out of order
rich widget
How do we update the quest rewards table? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_quest_rewards
It used to be just a plain old table that you could edit. Now... who knows?
green arrow
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chaos_Shard chaos shards are available again in incursion from currency temple rooms
stuck knoll
there is apage missing
tender jackal
anyone know what the modifier generation of the new incursion mods is ?
It's driving me nuts that I do just not remember how I went about testing changes to modules last time I did it
guess I found it
um, the "show preview" button when you are editing a page appears to be broken, it discards the edit
stuck knoll
so i am new to wiki but i found information not on it and i gathered information of use,,,, not best at wording or adding the correct info etc etc... who cna help or view the changes and modify it properly?
tender jackal
@stuck knoll what info is this ?
stuck knoll
uhm
@tender jackal the defiled proclamation
was no page at all
but tis a unique boss used for the challenges
tender jackal
you can grab just copy the source of any boss page and use it as a base template, they don't really use much of the clever stuff
as far as I know at least
rich widget
@tender jackal Are you still having issues with the Show Preview function?
tender jackal
@rich widget looks like yes, mind you the problem is only with the "Show preview" button itself (the one next to save changes) if I use the preview tab at the top that works perfectly fine
grand magnet
change item_limit=2 to item_limit=1
rich widget
@tender jackal Can you describe what happens when you use the Show Preview button? I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
tender jackal
It starts off working as usual but then once the page is rendered it snaps back to the edit section having discarded any edits
desert swan
Anyone know if Rain of arrows traps have been reported for memory leak?
oak yoke
Wasn't that the case for Bladefall traps?
grand magnet
@grand pollen something seems to be seriously messed up (data storage fucked for lightning arrow); I'm talking to curse to find out what's going on
grand pollen
nice!
rich widget
@tender jackal That's odd. I'm not able to reproduce that issue. Can you tell me which browser you're using and if you are using ad blockers, which ones?
tender jackal
@rich widget Chromium and ABP
grand magnet
With those performance problems, please contact curse about it. If it seems advertisement related there is https://gamepedia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115006403627-Reporting-Bad-Advertisements
vapid pine
uh.. wiki page about charge need to be updated, missing guardian harmony of purpose as source of charge on hit
radiant summit
I can update it tomorrow morning
grand magnet
@light linden can you unpin the old bad ad link and pin the new one?
light linden
tender jackal
are the architect affixes on the wiki somewhere? I can't seem to find any of them.
hollow mural
the vendor recipe for full rare set isn't fully correct on the wiki
you don't need shields for it
and 2 one handed weapons are enough
1 x two handed weapon
2 x one handed weapon
1 x body armour
1 x helmet
1 x gloves
1 x boots
1 x belt
1 x amulet
2 x rings
any more than that and you get extra transmutation shards
quiet idol
@hollow mural why is it not correct? One of the following
light linden
@tender jackal http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Incursion not wiki but here
tender jackal
ye but that table doesn't have the spawn weights
and it is incomplete
unless the press statement about them was rooll backed
stone crater
could you find a poe.trade example for the missing?
tender jackal
doesn't look like it
Guatelitzi's Astral Plate
has more life than any of those mods indicate
stone crater
can't find a example on poe.trade and Mods.dat with this life values
radiant summit
@vapid pine i'm late, but which section of the wiki were you referring to?
stone crater
You can copy from poedb as you wish
strong maple
I think Combat Focus is wrong?
I got a Crimson Combat Focus which disables Cold instead of Lightning
quiet idol
@strong maple https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Combat_Focus as you can see there are 3 versions on the page mentioned
strong maple
@quiet idol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174993814845521922/456773061618827269/combat_focus_jwl.png
The wiki shows crimson jewel locking out lightning
quiet idol
ah thats what you mean
fixed it on their sides, I guess it takes some time until the pages where they're linked are being updated
broken lintel
just finished the Prophecy "The Undead Brutes" in "The Battlefront" in act 3, wiki only lists The Catacombs, The Marketplace and The Sewers as possible locations
grand magnet
Feel free to update it then
radiant summit
I can update once I get to work
wicked lantern
in regards to the wiki, it doesn't appear that Vaal skills list their soul capture prevention timers. Is that something that the PyPoe tool would update or is it safe to update manually?
Same goes for the Souls Per Use, no longer being a progression
actually after looking it appears the item template would need to change
grand magnet
yes the item2 module needs to be changed, skill as well for skills in particular. I've changed the vaal souls it's just a display thing
not sure about the timer I have to investigate
arctic hazel
was this page always brokne?
it shows a giant error
[7b699864772409ff96727a81] /Purity_of_fire MWException from line 557 of /home/hydra/public_html/extensions/Cargo/includes/CargoSQLQuery.php: Error: No field named "vaal_soul_gain_prevention_time" found for the database table "skill_levels".
grand magnet
No, it will go away when the wiki stops being slow af
and the field gets actually made on the table
Those errors are gone now, progression will take a while to update I'll send bot through
stone jacinth
Kalisa's Grace
Isnt showing the corrent hp amount that was updated just now on the main page. Should be 70 hp max instead of 80
@radiant summit
radiant summit
sec
visual frigate
I think that's backend stuff
bleak comet
it takes a while for it to update
visual frigate
it's just referencing a cached value
stone jacinth
Figured it should be like that, but who knows if they are done like that
bleak comet
null edit the query tables if you're in a hurry.
grand pollen
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Threshold_jewel
please add new combat focus jewels there
and a note that they don't need 40 of each stat, just 40 combined
sinful plinth
I second that ^
radiant summit
It’s on there now I believe
strange dock
what's causing the leaguestone list to be on the sextant page? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cartographer's_Sextant#List_of_Modifiers
links to this page: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_atlas_mods
grand magnet
domains have changed, it's fixed now
grand pollen
probably should be centered
grand pollen
terrace map page is broken
radiant summit
looks fine to me
either someone fixed it or you just caught it during reindexing or something
icy steeple
How positive are we that the wiki is correct on the temple mechanics?
quiet idol
@icy steeple you mean if the avg+4 is correct? I'm really certain it is
icy steeple
yeah i asked a dev and he said he can't say, but if he was a betting man he'd say it's correct
so i think we are good to go
dusky lagoon
hey guys! is there a proper place to report bugs, or should i just report them here?
weak basalt
@dusky lagoon in-game bugs can be reported via in-game chat by using /bug which generates a ticket. You can then post a thread in http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/bug-reports
dusky lagoon
ah, i meant on the wiki
weak basalt
Omega_K2 - 08/04/2017
If someone wants help out with the wiki, check https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:To-do_list and https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:To-do_list/3.3.0 for what needs to be done currently.
Feel free to add things to the list if you see they need work. You can also use the talk page to discuss some related topics
@dusky lagoon Found this in the history ^
If it's an error that's showing on the wiki I'm sure you can drop it here, people commonly do it.
Just scroll up a bit to make sure it wasn't recently mentioned by someone else
jovial flower
I've running Tidal Island (A6) to find "Strange Sinkhole" but I found "Concealed Cavity" is the wiki wrong?
sour berry
sinkhole's in mud flats last I checked
jovial flower
nvm I found it in Tidal Island 😃
grand magnet
Wiki shows either correctly, check the area infoboxes, they use the gamedata and should be accurate. Text on the page may be outdated
cerulean flame
Hi, I believe it is important to mention on the page for Shaper Orb that Memory Fragment 15 only drops if the Shaper survives the fight.
Here is a link to a comment by Hartlin_GGG confirming that this is neccessary.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2158805/page/4
heady jetty
@cerulean flame Indeed. I even wanted to do that when I read the bug report post and forgot about it.
adding it now
radiant summit
How can we center-align templates? I looked through Template:Item but i'm not sure how to fix the issue Quintiger described with https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Minion_and_Totem_Elemental_Resistance_Support
Other than <br>ing the title which causes the background to not align
sour berry
2 spans maybe
radiant summit
that is also an option, it is slightly bugging me that i cant figure out how to center justify
its also like the least important fix on the wiki but i keep coming back to it
sour berry
just replace the text with emojis then
sour berry
oh to do the thing you wanted just do this
radiant summit
i wonder if this is going to fuck anything else
sour berry
yeah
radiant summit
i'm scared to touch it
sour berry
I'm sure there could be css overrides in the template or you can ask them to introduce a css var
radiant summit
I'm gonna defer to the more experienced wiki guys for now and see what they wanna go with, thanks for finding that
soothes my mind a little
sour berry
there's like 100 templates, I'm sure you can find something to mess up along the line
radiant summit
plenty more opportunities to mess things up 😏
pure ibex
anyone know if theres a lvl requirment for incursions or is it just that atziri/map room cant spawn til maps and thats it?
quiet idol
jeah pretty much, but some1 said that atziri room can even spawn earlier
grand magnet
It's level 68 for atziri/map room IIRC
quiet idol
I thought so also, but some1 said he had an atziri room in blood acqueducts
delicate palm
I'm watching a twitch stream. How come this dudes stash looks completely different from mine?
heady jetty
@delicate palm I guess you mean the currency stash tab. There are special tabs for certain things.
radiant summit
@delicate palm just so you know this is the wiki channel, your questions have a better chance of getting answered in the #1┃after-acts-help or #1┃endgame-help channel
delicate palm
oh whoops sorry. Didn't reallize I was still here. I was scrolling it earlier
radiant summit
No worries just didn’t want you to think people are ignoring you
clear wren
Which page is the best source of truth for possible locations of vaal side areas?
I added the "Vaal Side Area Info Out of Sync" section to the page linked above with an example of conflicting information
grand magnet
The infobox should be accurate since it pulls from the gamedata
flat eagle
Just found the div card "The Undaunted" from T15 Basilica and noticed that in the wiki Basilica map isn't among the list of maps where you can find that card.
gleaming lynx
hey, i dont know if this the place to ask for help, but where do i find defield proclamation?
radiant summit
@flat eagle I will fix this, thanks for letting us know
mossy anvil
@gleaming lynx https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Defiled_Proclamation
quiet idol
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Dark_Seer shows garbage. the current item needs to have +1 ES/life/mana per level and the mana/es/life on kill per level is outdated
radiant summit
@grand magnet what do you think the best way to handle the above is? a variants page akin to yriels fostering? or something like <2 out of 3 of the following> somewhat similar to watcher's eye.
grand magnet
do variants or otherwise it won't show up in lists
radiant summit
👍
radiant summit
@quiet idol finally got around to this one, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Dark_Seer
should be good now
someone can feel free to change the parenthesis designation, i really couldn't come up with something better
yriels makes it easy with (ursa) and (rhoa) etc.
quiet idol
@radiant summit nicely done
quiet idol
thats an easy edit, you can do it yourself 😃
sinful plinth
I don't have an account lmfao
west dirge
well create one
sinful plinth
Yes sir :3
quiet idol
^
sinful plinth
I'll just wait for jeff, hes cool and does stuff
quiet idol
😣
quiet idol
just seen this page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fated_item its needs a nicely looking table like everywhere else
stone crater
it's a cargo query
grand magnet
I made it an item table, though I'm not sure what exactly you want it to have to be a nicely looking table
I suppose something like showing the prophecy involved, but it's non trival at the moment
quiet idol
far better than before
visual frigate
why does https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Viper_Strike have growing agony 4 times
radiant summit
It seems to be an issue with this format {{Skill threshold jewel list|stat_id=Viper_Strike}}. The threshold jewels that use this format have this issue whereas the ones that query for the specific name of the threshold jewel work fine.
You can fix it by changing to the specific name query but i'm not sure that's what we want to do for forward compatibility?
bleak comet
Growing Agony has four stat ids that matches the string "Viper_Strike", therefore the query will correctly show four results. Unless you filter for duplicate items.
radiant summit
That would make sense, thanks ill
weak basalt
Found another one, the Rebirth divination card also drops in the control blocks (Act 10), and it's not listed..
quiet idol
I think it can drop in any story area
weak basalt
Last found one in the vastiry desert and it's still storyline so it's very possible
Should it be edited to say it drops everywhere in the storyline?
quiet idol
idk if its really the case, but I thought I read something along these lines from the charan
radiant summit
I'll add it to the list of confirmed drop locations, though the note on that page is from the forum post about it
but the more confirmed locations the better
prisma kestrel
Should dreadwheels be their own monster type under the bestiary? Or should they just be lumped with say Zombies?
quiet idol
@prisma kestrel wdym? if you refer to the bestiary from bestiary league they're not included because they aren't beasts
prisma kestrel
Not referring to the bestiary league but, the Bestiary navbox thingy.
Ex. "Hungry Corpse is a type of Zombie found in Act 1. " with zombie being a broader term with all a list of all the zombie subtypes.
If if made a Dreadwheel page what broader term would it fall under?
"Dreadwheeel is a type of <blank> found in Act 1 and 6"
Does it make sense for it to have it's own "Type" or should it be added to an existing type?
weak basalt
Or that
radiant summit
it is yes, here's the page on undead https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Undead
maybe "undead" is one classification too high for what you are asking?
quiet idol
jeah I think it is
radiant summit
it basically just refers to the ability for a necromancer to revive it according to the wiki
radiant summit
oh yeah sorry the monster not the ascendancy lol
quiet idol
🤦
weak basalt
Ah
radiant summit
the "rah rah" guys with the hoods
quiet idol
the wrong page is linked lol
quiet idol
so the question is if necromancers can raise dreadwheels 🤔
radiant summit
k i fixed that link while we were at it
quiet idol
👌
radiant summit
I've created the very barebones of the page, and attached it to the bestiary navbox. I'm not home but when I can i'll add different normal types, as well as the page for The Broken Man unique.
worthy lichen
jaunty wigeon
Hm, I seem to have left this discord without reason previously. I should stay here as it's quite active.
Hi, anyways 👋
radiant summit
hello hello
eternal crater
hello. i'm the wiki manager for the wiki, so let me know if you need anything
meager oasisBOT
Please don't post discord invites
dull kindle
guys why does it say default stash tab bundle price is 180 points instead of 150
the discount is all messed up because of that
bleak comet
Most likely a typo. Feel free to change it.
dull kindle
never edited a wiki so i don't want to do it
radiant summit
@dull kindle should be fixed now
dull kindle
i think it was wrong in the last sale too
but i'm not to sure
atleast the error won't replicate from now on anymore
thanks Jeff
sinful plinth
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Difficulty a lot on that page that needs to be updated, it's still showing a lot of pre 3.0 stuff
radiant summit
i think thats the intention of the page
since difficulties no longer exist it looks like whoever wrote it wanted to keep it as a historical record
sinful plinth
Then maybe the change log should detail that, besides just '3.0 added 10 acts'
I don't know if its that wiki page, but I know people have asked me how to get the last 2 bandits since the change
radiant summit
Hmm, i'll take a look at what can be improved in a little here
rich widget
The only reason I can see for retaining the Difficulty article is if there are other articles that link to it.
radiant summit
I don’t think it needs to be changed, it’s a legacy article pretty much and it’s indicated as such
rich widget
Yeah. What I'm saying is if there are other articles that reference Difficulty, it makes sense to retain the information contained in that article.
radiant summit
Indeed
bleak comet
How do you want it to look like?
unique nacelle
To only be the Frenzy enchants? lol
bleak comet
fixed
unique nacelle
👍
quiet idol
on the pages of elemental overload and crit chance there must be a chart for comparing them so people know when its worth picking either of those
grand pollen
something's not right here
bleak comet
nice picture, doesn't say which page it is though.
abstract juniper
in the boot enchantments page I can order the table by name and stats, but not by labyrinth
bleak comet
fixed, happy sorting.
abstract juniper
ty
radiant summit
{{Query unique items |tables=item_stats |join=items._pageID=item_stats._pageID |where= item_stats.id LIKE "%despair%" |level=1 |stat=1 |large=1 }}
I can't figure out why this isn't picking up the chaos impresence amulet
it works for the other ones with their respective curses
heady jetty
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:ConductivityReservationCostUnique~~1
has
Stats
# Stat Id Min Max
1 conductivity_mana_reservation_+% -100 -100
while
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:DespairReservationCostUnique~~1
has
Stats
# Stat Id Min Max
1 chaos_weakness_mana_reservation_+% -100 -100
so basically it's because GGG didn't include the word despair in the despair ID
radiant summit
@heady jetty 😄 ahhh that makes sense, thanks arty!
heady jetty
if you can query mod id properly it should work, that one is DespairReservationCostUnique__1
not sure if the template works with that info though
{{Query unique items
|tables=items
|where=
items.explicit_mods HOLDS LIKE "%despair%"
|level=1
|stat=1
|large=1
}}
@radiant summit
not sure if that fits your needs though
flat eagle
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Profane_Bloom should probably state what source of damage the explosion counts as (minion's damage, so minion's kill? Or always player's damage?)
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hierophant also notable skills is empty all of a sudden or is it just me?
radiant summit
@flat eagle i believe K2 is in the middle of an ascendancy node rework
the bottom issue should be fixed in a bit
if the minion gets the kill, it scales off minion damage
if its your kill it scales off of your modifiers
as far as profane bloom goes *
flat eagle
And if DoT kills, the explosion is also you?
Anyway, I feel like that should be on the wiki for that node.
last apex
@radiant summit how do edit wiki
radiant summit
First you gotta make an account, then you login
then at the top right you press "edit source"
last apex
Grrrr :/
radiant summit
from there you just have to learn the syntax
or you can do the lazy thing and post it here
and me or someone else will fix it
last apex
I'll get around to it after this session maybe, but in case anyone wants to
The Divination card "Lucky Connections" Drops in Pier (War for the Atlas Map) which isn't listed
radiant summit
K i updated it, it'll show in the next refresh
visual frigate
!
radiant summit
should be there now
stone crater
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Supporter_pack seems out of date
radiant summit
@karmic plinth @queen vessel
what do you guys think about this one
might need to open it in not-discord embed
i think i got the example right
radiant summit
Okay thanks for confirming sir
karmic plinth
Np
queen vessel
^
flat eagle
Wiki is missing that Envy is obtanable on elder amulet now. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Envy It says only granted by the sword
bleak comet
Envy can only be obtained from United in Dream or Elder Amulets with an item level of at least 85.
flat eagle
example looks worded a bit reverse, Jeff. It should say "As a result, the player gains 20 chaos damage total from:"
oh oops it does say that already >_>
I have trouble reading the light text on dark background. Especially being up this long. 😦
flat eagle
ya the image
"Culling Strike against Enemies Cursed with Poacher's Mark" on Gluttony page isn't clear if it works like, say, Dyadus' increased ignite damage or not. It doesn't say "YOU have Culling Strike against..." so it's probably anything can cull when [your?] poacher's mark is on them, but still. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Gluttony
radiant summit
Are you suggesting posting a clarification? We don't modify the item text as that is how it displays in game.
flat eagle
Yes I'm suggesting having a clarification like the Dyadus page has https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dyadus
Mechanics.
radiant summit
Actually you bringing that up made me notice that that mechanics section for dyadus is out of date
And needs to be removed
But i understand what you mean
balmy sable
Hey guys, does anyone know if there's a way to use the api with action parse (or other) to parse the general text into plain text somehow?
weak basalt
@radiant summit The Anticipation shows under items affected by intelligence stacking (First item table on the page) https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Intelligence 
I wonder how it got pulled there
radiant summit
hmmm
lemme look what the query says
ah i can already tell why
i'm pretty sure its because the LIKE phrase is set to query anything that matches "%per_%_int%" which technically "%PER_manently_INT% imidate" would match
radiant summit
yeah that's what i'll do, curious @bleak comet why do some items disappear if it was changed to "%per_%_intelligence%" but others stay?
bleak comet
Because the query looks at the stat_id which is "area_of_effect_+%_per_20_int".
radiant summit
oh gotcha, that makes sense
bleak comet
for pillar
You can change it to look at the items.stat_text but then there's a lot more possible combinations that can happen.
weak basalt
Thanks smort people o/
quiet idol
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Slow the related uniques are from a "slow" query? I think the only items in the list fitting are pandemonius and kaom's roots
real bramble
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_King's_Heart Hi guys, I had a kings heart card drop in The Coast (act 6) but it's not on the wiki page, is it dropped by certain enemy types or is it just unlisted on the page as a drop area?
torn horizon
I guess to find your answer you'd need to farm The Coast to confirm the drop and just add it to that list 😄
glass stratus
I've actually also had one drop in The Coast in act 6
torn horizon
Well I added it to the wiki as wiki is a tool for community edits 😉
rich widget
Does anyone know how to prevent Template:SMW current version from being categorized under Category:Versions? @grand magnet @bleak comet
heady jetty
@rich widget fixed
quiet idol
there is something onconsistent with league uniques in the wiki. for example breach uniques say they are restricted to breach league:
but prophecy items don't say they are restricted to prophecy league
also it doesn't say anything about that it can drop in esh breaches
for abyss uniques the wiki even says they're restricted to abyss league, making it sound like abyss isn't core
radiant summit
I can look into it tonight unless someone beats me to it
grand magnet
league restriction is for when the league flag needs to be active on the zone for the item to appear
something like esh breaches should go into drop_text because that's rather specific
in any case, for items that have become obtainable without league flags they should have none, regardless of the league they were introduced by. Which is the case for prophecy items
sour berry
dang yo
fossil phoenix
ember raptor
grand magnet
I went through and fixed these, but for reference those kind of errors can be fixed by null-editing twice usually
grand magnet
Which page do people think the delve mechanics should be on?
I feel like Delve, Delve mechanics or Azurite Mine are good options, leaning towards Delve at the moment
quiet idol
Delve
rich widget
Delve. We can distinguish between Delve and Delve league.
weak basalt
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lori's_Lantern can Hope give unique rings too or is that wrong?
wicked cloud
try in another browser, that's not the preview I get
wicked cloud
part of the formatting isn't working on your phone's browser then
when I went to link the image that I got I found out that they're assembled, and only the card art is saved
grand magnet
3.4.0 data updates (at least for what hasn't been removed from the content ggpk) have stated
harsh grove
yup
torn horizon
As a newbie I'd like to see info about trial of ascendancy in the location page also. Has there been any plans to add it? I sometimes search location and try to figure out if there's a point to go there or not and trials can be missed unless you know them by heart or look from Trials of Ascendancy page.
For example https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Catacombs doesn't mention anything about a trial
bleak comet
You're most welcome to add that information if you want to.
torn horizon
Yes I'd like to do that but was thinking if it needs to be added to a template instead of manual text. I have no idea which templates can be touched without breaking things
bleak comet
The area infoboxes are maintained by PyPoE bots, so it's probably easier to just add it in the main text for now.
mint thunder
hi, the holy relic enchantments seem to be slightly mixed up/missing. im not sure if this is a bug on gggs side tho, as ive heard of invisible lab enchants and thought it was maybe related. another note: only the increased buff effect seen here is searchable on official trade
unique nacelle
For some reason, the Area_of_effect page redirects me
which breaks the page
It redirects me to: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/g00/Area_of_effect?i10c.encReferrer=[some long string]
rich widget
@unique nacelle I'm not able to reproduce that. Can you tell me if this link redirects you? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area_of_effect
unique nacelle
Yes
rich widget
I've reported this to the Gamepedia staff.
grand magnet
@mint thunder do you know if the enchants work in game now? Mods had been exported from the early release ggpk and if they fixed that I might need to export again
mint thunder
i cant personally test if they work, but it is listed as a known issue on the official forums. supposedly they work even if not displayed? to note: andrew's post states buff effect isn't working but that is the only one ive been able to search on trade (tho it's mixed up with radius on the wiki chart so who knows)
weak basalt
Both tombfist and command of the pit list twice, for one and two abyssal sockest. Is it supposed to do that?
weak basalt
I thought it was a roll with a range, but not being able to divine it makes sense
stone crater
No, two modifiers
glacial kernel
is there a png/svg image for 6link items? like just the links with the armour/weapon not included
grand pollen
bleak comet
Fixed.
astral nebula
hey maybe I'm missing something, but why is coralito's signature in it's own little category here 😄 https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_flasks
heady jetty
because PoE has an internal type difference for diamond flask:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Critical_Utility_Flasks
rigid vale
Tora crafting says "(8 to 22)% increased Elemental Damage with Weapons" When its really Damage with Attack Skills
rich widget
Some of the tables on the Delve article are quite long. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Delve
I was thinking I could make these show a limited number of rows initially, and have a button that allows you to expand the full table.
What do you guys think? Is it worth doing?
bleak comet
Sounds good, I don't like these super long tables either.
sour berry
yeah wrap it in a div and toggle the max-height of the container
rich widget
That's an interesting idea. I was more so thinking of limiting it to a number of rows, rather than max-height
sour berry
max-height is more useful if you wanted to stack a few horizontally as well
something like this
rich widget
Yeah. This is a good idea, and it's simpler to implement.
rich widget
Having a sticky header would be nice, but tables on mediawiki aren't that complex. They exclude table groups (thead, tbody and tfoot).
It is possible, but you have to apply a class name to each header cell.
Or apply a class to the table and just assume that any header cell in the table is sticky.
rich widget
Here's a demo on jsfiddle: http://jsfiddle.net/esoz87cx/
sour berry
you have acess to the global css right?
rich widget
Yes
sour berry
I think the expand/collapse should be on top rather than bottom
next to the h4
you can also use media css to determine approximately how tall the collapsed tables should be
rich widget
Do you have an example of how to do that?
sour berry
second example here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Media_Queries/Using_media_queries#Media_features
alternatively you can use the vh unit as max-height
rich widget
I know about media queries. What I'm not sure about is how to use media queries "to determine approximately how tall the collapsed tables should be."
sour berry
you set up arbitrary thresholds for the maximum height of the table wrapper
if it's on a mobile, put it at say the full viewport height so you can see all the table contents
if it's on desktop, half of that so you can browser 2 tables at the same time
rich widget
I see. Again, good ideas.
sour berry
what kind of widgets does the wiki support? was thinking of a calculator for all the delve stuff
rich widget
Like MediaWiki extensions?
sour berry
input upgrade levels vs delve level, see azurite costs and net res/radius etc
flat eagle
anyone know why my wiki loads up looking like this?
it loads normally the first couple of seconds then it just goes all white like this and i have no clue how to fix it
rich widget
Another demo on jsfiddle: http://jsfiddle.net/2jxz4gku/3/
sour berry
looks good, btw do you notice a bit of the content under the sticky headers?
rich widget
Yes, but I don't know how to remove that.
sour berry
it's a 1 pixel border thing, you can add a border-top to div.responsive-table-scroll to hide it
quiet idol
is the gem info of for example https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Minefield_Support getting updated somehow? the patch notes are there but the gem info and table is outdated
grand magnet
updated
idle bridge
Can someone please update https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Reward_Gems ? Not only did I see this comment on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9fd50h/questions_thread_september_13_2018/e5x28cq/) but I cannot find Toxic Rain on that list.
torn horizon
You can edit it yourself 😉
warped sphinx
Question about the Elder Guardian unique pages: Should some of the older pages have their "drop restrictions" section replaced with the {{Item acquisition}} tag? And should the item acquisition information have the map tier requirement (tier 6 maps and above, tier 11 maps and above) added into it?
bleak comet
New Item pages should use {{Item acqusition}}. The monster pages then should use a {{Query unique items}} for tables with drop restriction columns.
To avoid adding the same information multiple times.
warped sphinx
Ok, so editing Yoke of Suffering, Beltimber Blade, and Augyre to change to using {{item acquisition}} is the right idea?
bleak comet
yeah, that way the information is easily retrieved in all our item tables.
warped sphinx
One last question before I make too many changes. I added the drop_text modifier and the {item acquisition} but it is still empty. It should populate itself later though, right?
grand magnet
hit "purge cache" on top bar and it will show up
grand pollen
cerulean flame
Hi, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Forbidden_Taste seems to be outdated on the image. It states "Recover full life on use" but it's actually a range of 75% to 100% of maximum life. Thanks
grand pollen
is wiki having problems rn?
torn horizon
Loading slow for me
And database error
At least that forbidden taste page
Some pages work fine
grand magnet
Wiki should get back to it's normal speed eventually
grand pollen
weak basalt
"Lv 1 to 100" and shows only up to 20, is the scroll bar missing or something of the sorts?
My bad 
flat eagle
all 100 are shown
weak basalt
I wonder if it's my browser causing it
sour berry
it's just broken into 3 columns
torn horizon
You mean 5 columns?
ember raptor
twin gale
Ya all my poe wiki pages been like that for a few days now too
grand magnet
The errors should be gone now
stone crater
same for me, got 503 very often
some modifiers seems wrong on wiki, ex:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_str_body_armour_modifiers
Delve prefix
+#% to Chaos Resistance
it has body_armor tag and spawn weight is 0
or maybe its not updated to 3.4.2 yet?
shut valve
wiki down?
grand pollen
still 503s
grand magnet
I can update the mods later but first the 503s need to be fixed by curse
bronze fern
hi, is it possible for someone to update supporter attribution for: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Celestial_Stone ? cant update it myself, here is my profile link: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/slayk0r
rich widget
Done
bronze fern
^ thanks a lot for spending your time ;P
flat eagle
Zana 8 - Does NOT need an elder orb for the 15c Elder Map Mod. (I have only 10/15 fragments)
covert slate
The patch notes said it was required, but currently doesn't (same for the two shaped zana mods) - not sure if bug or last minute intended change
stiff badge
how unsummon animated guardian?
strange dock
For https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Memory_Fragment , it says that the Elder Guardians and Elder must be on a red tier map to give the memory fragment. However, only Elder has to be on a red tier map for the Guardians to drop fragments, as the Guardian arenas get the area level of the map with Elder anyways.
pure cipher
I got the Shaped Tier 6-10 mod available from Zana 7 with just the first 9 fragments unlocked, did unfortunately not try running it, so don't know if it actually runs but it was enabled-coloured in the device.
worldly tulip
Mark mentioned some information that's incorrectly listed on the wiki (Rampage has no effect on minions, and players get 2% damage per 20 kills.) https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9igmai/undocumented_change_rampage_only_gives_1/e6lha94/
I would fix it myself, but I don't understand this "cargo_query" thing on the rampage page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Rampage
grand magnet
I think the entire character page could use an update, it's been a while evidently (it's where the rampage data is from)
tender summit
Can barrage be used melee?
at least its what im assuming from the Dual-Wielding section
mint thunder
wands can be dual-wielded and use barrage
worldly tulip
@tender summit read the tooltip
idle bridge
How can anyone go in and edit https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Arun_(War_for_the_Atlas) so it includes https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Gorgon's_Gaze as a possible drop from the boss?
bleak comet
You go to Gorgon's Gaze's item page and add where it drops there, in the item template as drop_areas parameter. You can check the divination cards for examples. But do you really think this item drops specifically there though? Or was it a random drop? If you think it's a random drop you shouldn't add it. If we're going to start adding random drops then the lists will be never ending, since most things can drop almost everywhere.
quiet idol
@bleak comet it drops from the boss of the map, its not a random drop
weak basalt
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Halcyon
How come it displayes this image instead of the amulet like other unique items? It picks up the image from the divination card it comes from 
heady jetty
The image is included in the hover over effect of the "Upgrade paths" section. I'm not sure how discord decides which image to use, but the image shown is effectively on the page.
weak basalt
Must be magic 🌈
mild sparrow
hey guys, could anyone please tell me how to edit items on the wiki? I've done some reading through the guides on the wiki, but didn't answer my question and the IRC channel is a ghost town
it seems like the unique explicits are not hard coded, but saved somewhere else and referred to as variables
does anyone know where that is?
radiant summit
@mild sparrow https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Category:Mods
mild sparrow
@radiant summit thanks a lot
radiant summit
Is there a specific item you are looking to fix?
mild sparrow
thanks, I'll bookmark both
grand magnet
the category isn't really useful. It has 12975 pages
mild sparrow
I've noticed over the past few years some old/unupdated item mods, especially on a new big patch, and wanted to do my bit in helping update
but wanted to edit the core item data but never knew where it was saved
the category is useful because there is a specific mod I need to change the value of, I just didn't know how to access it
@devout dew there have been a few, but on this occasion it is Omen of the winds
the pierce was changed in 3.1 to be 3 targets, but it still shows 5
actually it doesn't show up in mod list
it's called "IceShotThresholdJewel__1"
nvm it is there, just with ~~