If nubs are allowed to insert links I'll see if I can link a few effects but I haven't Edited wiki for a few years and never on poe wiki. π
#wiki
prisma frost
grand magnet
if you give me a list of which terms you think should link to which pages I can make sure it will happen when mods are updated for 3.0.0
if you manually edit the links it they'll be gone for the next update
bleak comet
Feel free to edit the usual pages, like Mysterious barrels though. They won't be overwritten by a bot.
prisma frost
I haven't mapped much and have barely used any sextants so i dont feel i have enough knowledge to actually write pages.
bleak comet
interest and decent google skills often is enough to contribute.
rich widget
Do slipstreams increase attack and cast speed too, or just movement speed?
prisma frost
modifer says 'action speed' also 'haste' so i assume it applies a localized haste aura (attack, cast, movement). I have no first hand knowledge of slipstream.
rich widget
Action speed is the same as attack, cast and movement speed
low pelican
Iam new so is there a website for guides? And which parts of armors should i use for the witch?
sullen lake
@low pelican this is the channel for discussing the path of exile wiki website. for that kind of question you are better off asking in #1βendgame-help or #1βbuild-planning . Build discussion in particular has several useful websites pinned that can help answer your question.
echo sedge
@grand magnet any update on property id's, or is that only going to come around 3.0?
Also, could you add the possibility (or is it already possible) for queries on modifier group/type/domain/generation type?
echo sedge
Do you happen to have any relevant documentation for those?
bleak comet
Do you want to know how to find the properties? Or just queries in general?
echo sedge
I'd like definition on the structure of queries as well as where to find lists of all possible values for each variable
echo sedge
I've been referred to that before but failed to actually put to use some of the things I've found, probably because I'm still not completely sure what pages apply to what I'm trying to do.
In the end all of what I did was from learning from examples inside poe's wiki itself
bleak comet
I did the same thing. But it will make sense eventually.
echo sedge
For the time being. I'd like to make a query for all unique items which have at least one mod that has a mod type exactly matching "IncreasedMana"
Is that possible?
bleak comet
Do you have a item in mind?
echo sedge
Nothing specific
Trying to work on unique items for mana
note Blood Sacrifice popping up
which has maximum mana gained on kill
thus shows up on query for items interacting with maximum mana
I could probably exclude it by hand but
if I could query for mod groups
The solution might be more extensible and require less maintenance
(by the way, I ended up adding a link to lists of all evasion items under the unique section).
bleak comet
These are the properties you can search for an item.
Notice that there is no Has mod group
Therefore not possible to query for that in a standard way.
The stats from the explicit mods can be queried because they've been allowed by the module.
If you want to do this you need to: First find query unique items, then create a second query that searches the mods the item has and filter by the mods properties.
Kind of opposite to this query:
My experience though is that it is easiest to use the Has stat id or Has stat text . Has mod type and Has mod group aren't that consistent either.
Maybe Omega should just add ALL the properties of the mods inside the item as a subobject? Then we can do the query as normal. For example I want that Has granted skill id, which is a similar issue to yours, so we can improve the trigger page.
echo sedge
Maybe that might have some implications on memory or load times?
It'd surely be nice to have
Or maybe it's just a lot of work for him to do alone..
This is out of my league, I don't think I can contribute a meaningful opinion.
And I think if I tried to do something myself, I'd probably just fail because I'd do stupid mistakes and won't notice..
Thanks for the help, I think I'll wait for now and see what omega says.
But appreciate it nonetheless
bleak comet
Edited your query maybe this could work?
I tried the same thing in the [[Has subobject.Has stat id::+]] format but that one didn't work.
The wonderful buggy world of semantics.
grand magnet
I'm not really sure that exposing mod types would have a enefit when you can exclude things with stats already
mod domain/generation type even less so, one of those will be unique and the other just flask/item/jewel etc
echo sedge
Maybe it won't make a practical difference in the short term. I just find excluding items from a list of modifiers to maximum mana because the group type is not "IncreasedMana" or "MaximumManaIncreasePercent" much cleaner than excluding because I filtered for a stat that contains "maximum mana" but not "gained".
Mod types have their own share of wording issues
But as far as I can tell at least, their naming scheme seems a tiny bit cleaner than that of stats
As for mod domain
Again, this could be easily "fixed" by adding an extra condition to the stat saying it must not contain "map monsters"
But filtering to only show mod domain 1 & 11 is both logically more correct, and less prone to errors in the future.
Generation type I agree, I can only see it useful in the context of querying mods rather than querying items.
grand magnet
You can also just query for a list of stats you actually want instead of using placeholders
I don't think this is really cleaner. When adding stat columns you probably want to know what stats you actually queried for and not hide them through mod groups as well
I just dont see a big benefit of copying over the stats here
Besides, if you query for the mods on the items you'd need to add another subquery I think you'll run into the query size limits fairly soon (which is already an issue on some pages)
echo sedge
The problem with listing stats explicitly is that I don't catch unique items with special properties (like +100 mana per blue socket) which ends up defeating the purpose of writing tables in the first place (reducing manual work in-between patches and keeping pages automatically updated)
Id 100% rather have unrelated items than not list a relevant item
Memory is a issue yeah, I actually recall transferring to the current generic format because checking for 5-6 possible stats impacted load time noticeably and sometimes crashed
I don't understand why something this simple has this much memory impact :|
shadow breach
Is the wiki css being reworked atm? Took me like 2-3 refreshes to get the page properly styled 
grand magnet
it's not
bleak comet
You can see what recent changes have been made here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:RecentChanges
sullen lake
whats with this thumbnail http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/File:Volls_Vision_Partical_Effects.gif
grand magnet
gifs have been bugged for a while, I'm guessing it's not a priority for curse to fix
worn fog
Interesting bug. When the a wiki page finishes loading on opera with ublock origin it looks like this.
With ublock origin off, and while it's loading, the page looks fine.
grand magnet
sounds like ublock is blocking something it shouldn't
worn fog
Yep, though not on chrome
last juniper
somewhat wiki related
there was a necro wiki IIRC, they now link to a github page and the files you download are .md files.. how does one open these.. doesn't stand anywhere on their page
worn fog
@last juniper just open them in notepad
cursive bronze
hi,i found a bug (i think) on a wiki
the cospri malice(https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cospri's_Malice) isn't listed on unique swords or unique one handed thrusting swords page
wheat jetty
fixed
minor plaza
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Gang's_Momentum contains "Gang's Momentum is a unique pair of Module:Util:640: Too many results for search parameter "legion boots". Consider using page parameter instead.. "
light linden
I don't see that at all
bleak comet
Because it was fixed. There's a mtx called Legion Boots which has the exact same name as the base item, so you had to specify which one you wanted to show.
grand magnet
If someone wants help out with the wiki, check https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:To-do_list and https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:To-do_list/3.0.0 for what needs to be done currently.
Feel free to add things to the list if you see they need work. You can also use the talk page to discuss some related topics.
slim hawk
Fun missing item on wiki: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Storm_Prison isn't listed as a unique wand in either https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Carved_Wand or https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Wands#List_of_unique_wands pages - looks like that's been incorrect for quite some time
frigid kayak
was going to edit wiki and add it but have no idea how to do that and didn't want to mess with anything, but yeah noticed that wand missing like 10 minutes ago.
bleak comet
Just edit the wand page without doing any changes, then do the same with the table page. That should fix most of these issues.
jaunty wigeon
During this upgrade, all wikis will be online and functioning, but you may experience slight blips in performance and search will be unavailable for 1-2 hours after each wiki is upgraded.
The process will be rolling in batches all day. The most noticeable effect will be that search
We will give you a 30 minute warning before the deploy begins on Monday, as well as an all-clear once the dev team confirmed the upgrade is complete.```
Further information on this deployment, including *instructions for reporting issues*, can be found here: https://help.gamepedia.com/MediaWiki_1.29_upgrade
fossil phoenix
Can anyone update 5-10 act maps?
or create
like was on act 1-2-3-4 big boxes with arrows
jaunty wigeon
Brianna wanted to make sure you all saw the wiki editor shoutout from Chris π She's sure you did - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1938656
"I would like to thank the community members who keep the Wiki up to date. It's often a thankless task, but is incredibly useful for everyone else."
jaunty wigeon
The MediaWiki upgrade was postponed, so:
The deployment is estimated to take 1 hour.
After deployment is complete, we will be running various processes to handle CSS and other functionality. These should be resolved in a matter of hours.
In addition to that, we will be deploying updates to search on a rolling basis after the 1.29 deployment. You may experience temporary loss of search functionality in the 24 hours following the deployment.```
Reporting of any issues should be done here: https://cursemedia.typeform.com/to/LTQquG
flat eagle
The main page still says there are 4 acts and 3 difficulties btw
It also still features the atlas, should probably feature the pantheon now
dusty tundra
Thank you guys for all your hard work!
flat eagle
I was like "wtf are corrupted masters areas?"
gaunt needle
Is it just me or is the wiki down ?
jaunty wigeon
@gaunt needle what is the issue you are having?
fossil phoenix
for me wiki works well
jaunty wigeon
@gaunt needle that's one of the blips you might experience in search. view the notice further up in chat π
gaunt needle
Oh, right
jaunty wigeon
As of 8:23 PM UTC August 8
The MediaWiki 1.29 upgrade is complete. Let us know if youβre experiencing any issues with the platform, as the upgrade may have frazzled some minor wiki elements: https://cursemedia.typeform.com/to/LTQquG
keen solar
Hey all, I made a lot of contributions to the wiki when it was first getting started! Took a break from the game but I've been playing again, so I might start helping with the wiki again too. My user name on the wiki is Kaseki. Awesome to see all the improvements that have been made to it
flat eagle
^ same here :D
keen solar
Lol, I think I remember you!
flat eagle
@keen solar cool, I don't remember anyone :P
keen solar
rip
echo sedge
It's always nice to have a few more authors. Welcome back :)
white hornet
are the calculations supposed to look like this? is it just me?
white hornet
anyone?
grand magnet
they're using latex so yes
sullen lake
they are supposed to be ugly outlines and not solid text?
bleak comet
It has something to do with the update @jaunty wigeon was talking about earlier. RGB color settings seems to be working in the opposite way.
delicate herald
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but why does the wiki list the hypothetical level 8 master prices for uniques? I've seen so many new players ask if certain uniques are only from masters or whether the listed price is fair
It just seems like the most useless piece of information to list there
bleak comet
There were editors that found that information interesting, just like people that enjoy knowing who supported a unique design and so on.
wary dawn
Wiki isn't ran by PoE team
grand magnet
I think that list can be technically removed, I've added all item sell prices recently and the infobox specifically says that does not gurantee the item is sold anywhere, just the price if it would be sold
sour berry
also can the weapon dps preview not show three lines if it doesn't have an ele or chaos component?
it also probably needs a special case for dyadus or wings of entropy
outer badge
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Standoff
Trying to farm the Standoff, but can't really tell if the drop restriction is tied to part 1 or part 2, or if it doesn't matter, have done quite some runs in act 10 the card's still hans't dropped
tight jacinth
A little late, but I got humility in blood aqueducts
tender wedge
The reason the math looks horrible is because this CSS rule is being loaded:
.mwe-math-fallback-image-inline {
filter: invert(100%);
}```
I'm not seeing it in Common.css or Hydradark.css, though, so I'm not sure where it's definedWe could add a rule to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/MediaWiki:Hydradark.css to cancel it out?
e.g. css .mwe-math-fallback-image-inline { filter: none; }
Trying to report it as a bug as well though
vivid obsidian
I'm trying to find information on enemy elemental resistances, but nothing on the Restistance or Penetration pages. Any help, or does this need researching/adding?
white hornet
@sullen lake @bleak comet @tender wedge
thanks for letting me know that it wasnt just a problem on my end
keen solar
@vivid obsidian it looks like resists are in individual mob pages under their attributes section
For instance the page for Zombie lists them as being cold resistant
tulip quail
Hi, all the pages that reference "The Lunaris Concourse" entry
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Lunaris_Concourse
seem to be broken in some way or another. For example Jack in the Box has an error
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Jack_in_the_Box
as well as every item page that lists the div card as a way to obtain it.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Doedre's_Damning
I'm guessing something isn't working with the "Query area infoboxes" template on the Lunaris Concourse page since that side pane is missing, but I could be wrong.
I tried a null edit but that didn't change anything
@grand magnet maybe you know how to fix it
grand magnet
purging the area data page ( ?action=purge ), then the pages affected by it fixes it
tulip quail
Ok, nice. that's a lot of unique item pages to purge π
grand magnet
you probably dont need to purge the pages where il is placed
tulip quail
Ok, well thanks for fixing
eternal topaz
Hi..I have a question regarding spawn location for kitava's herald in high tier map
Asides from act 10, I can't find those spectres at all in maps, is there any peticular map that spawns kitava's herald?
I like using them for mapping even though they are not that great. They are fun.
vivid obsidian
Hi, the https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Ground_Slam page doesn't have a column to show its radius as it levels
echo sedge
@vivid obsidian fixed, thx
vivid obsidian
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cast_while_Channelling_Support page has correct columns, but they're both empty
jaunty wigeon
- All Gamepedia sites now run on HTTPS
As you might know HTTPS is no longer a Gamepedia PRO feature. Everyone should receive a HTTPS connection.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/
sullen lake
neat
frozen gale
feedback on missing info from the dominus page that would have saved my hardcore character just now https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dominus
during his first phase, the entrance to the area is open for the player to flee through
but it locks during the second phase, and the only escape at that point is a portalk
I used the door during the first phase to recover, and tried to do it during the second phase when the blood rain hit... didnt go well
sullen lake
i assumed the door was locked as soon as the fight started, interesting
though ideally you just stand next to him for the blood phase
and then it does nothing
frozen gale
yeah, I foolishly tried to do it My Way (tm) and got burned
dire saddle
hey, can someone help me with the drop areas on 'The Summoner'? Area 1_3_6 isn't working but it should imo since it is there: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area:1~3~6
bleak comet
I suppose you figured it out but the solution is to null edit the area page. That will force a update to the pages properties. It seems considerably slower (if at all) to update properties after the mediawiki upgrade that was mentioned earlier.
flat eagle
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Difficulty (link [[Normal]] from https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Beachhead links here)
old data about resists and bandits reward
go go power editor who can deal with it)
grand magnet
appending ?action=purge works as well, it clears the cache and refreshes the properties. For some reason some areas have missing properties
vivid obsidian
Lots of skills in the https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area_of_effect#Skill_gems table have no value ; is this information available?
flat eagle
WIKI DED?
stuck ibex
wiki is kill
jaunty wigeon
@flat eagle @stuck ibex (fix your name.)
update concerning downtime:
"There was an issue at our data center thatβs effected multiple VMs, the IT team is working on resolving it now."
I'll get you an all clear once we've got it out of the way
bleak temple
rip
sour berry
did the wiki theme change for anybody else?
wheat jetty
nope
autumn jackal
@sour berry Yeah, looks broken to me. The autocomplete is not working anymore as well and most of the links are 404.
coarse kelp
any ETA/info on wiki coming back?
stone crater
maybe summon @grand magnet
grand magnet
Can you give me a link of whats supposetly broken? Everything just works fine for me
sour berry
wiki servers died a bit last night, stuff wasn't loading completely and I think I got the mobile css at one point
grand magnet
Does the problem still exist?
coarse kelp
firefox was saying "Firefox canβt find the file at
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/."
my friend said it was due to wrong content-type
jaunty wigeon
Update: Sites should be fixed and Widgets are back up
pseudo ginkgo
Why?
proven zodiac
Is there a way to open a strong box while not beside it?
sour berry
no, but you can queue up a movement skill (lightning warp) before click on it
cunning root
Disable return to town button for boss fights!
Or atleast have the option to disable that button π’
azure spire
heyo @grand magnet , just fell upon this, dunno if you're aware
"Lua error in Module:Util at line 846: bad argument #1 to 'find' (string expected, got nil)."
grand magnet
someone messed up the template
azure spire
aight, didnt want to mess with anything myself
flat eagle
I want to discuss this https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Stash
Does this mean that 2 characters in standard league can't share a the stash between them?
minor pawn
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_utility_flasks only has six flasks on it?
echo sedge
other tables are missing stuff as well and there are module errors all over the wiki, something got fucked
grand magnet
as I said someone fucked up the template and this is the result, need to purge ( append ?action=purge to url) the missing unique pages for them to show up again
sullen lake
questions about the game should go in a different channel. This is just about the wiki itself and about adjusting articles @minor pawn
weak basalt
Hello, I've come across this on the Wiki. Thought I'd drop it here, is it just me?
Wait, Omega's gonna be mad, just read up lol
Something about the template being touched, oki o/
prisma frost
Hello all. We were talking about Ancestral Warchielf's interaction with Range (weapon range) earlier today in #1βendgame-help. The wiki says Melee Weapon and Unarmed Range: All modifiers to "Range" are ignored by the totem. I did some testing and found that Ancestral Warchief does actually use weapon range and modifers to range (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7WBveqEXg). I'm unsure what to do with this information. I could edit the AW wiki page but would like to link the proof to the edit somehow (citing source). I haven't made any edits to the PoE wiki and am unsure if there are any protocols, customs, or 'editing standards' I should be aware of.
wheat jetty
@prisma frost Hey! Editing the wiki is as simple as: make an account -> press the edit button on page -> do the changes you want -> press the save button. There is a manual of style that should help you get started (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:Manual_of_Style), you only need the 1st paragraph right now, note the 'Referencing' part.
However you are most likely going to be caught by an anti-spam filter for adding links to an external website.
prisma frost
Ah sweet. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. π Guess i'll fight the spam filter when I get to it then. ^^
wheat jetty
you can ask here for the reference to be added for you
gloomy phoenix
@grand magnet is purging the cache ( ?action=purge) local or a serverside thing?
grand magnet
server
gloomy phoenix
is there a way to automate the process across the wiki?
terse locust
s
vocal flare
looking for lower tier mapping if anyone is interested, lvl 73 summoner
grand magnet
Curse now broke something with SMW it seems
grand magnet
and fixed it now
covert cypress
jesus christ these alt arts have been in the game for years and no1 added pics
what do these green/red +values mean
sour berry
number of lines/bytes changed
wheat jetty
difference in characters changed
grand magnet
green added, red removed
fossil phoenix
π€
tired iris
There's some gnarlyness going on here
Not really sure where the problem lies, but it's possibly related to this page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/User:AnnanFay/Adds_Physical_Damage
grand magnet
I deleted the latter page which should fix the problem
covert cypress
Is it possible to make a page with every item with 3d art, i kinda want to do that
oh wait
ye nvm ill just add pics
sour berry
there's categories
covert cypress
ye, theres no page: Alt Arts with 3d Art
hushed jungle
The prophecy page is super messed up, every section just shows the same giant list right now
grand magnet
Seems like whoever was reworking that stopped halfway through
covert cypress
Ye some dude names alleryn seems like
echo sedge
Can I add a stat by listed value (level<x>_stat<y>_id & level<x>_stat<y>_value) instead of catch and extract from the gem text (pattern_extract and pattern_value)?
grand magnet
You mean in the gem level progression? Currently not possible
echo sedge
Does the wiki have any global todo/requested features list I can add this to?
grand magnet
For small things like this it is best to make a request on the module page. Only t hing though is that I didn't add this specifically because the textual representation does additional parsing usually
I can see how it can be easier for cases where it does not, but things like regeneration are per minute values while they're shown in per second, less/reduced values get reverted, etc
sour berry
oh yeah I'm seeing that stupid button that links to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Special:AllSites&filter=official now too
zinc zenith
wiki is messed up again just like it was 2 months ago
grand magnet
Be more specific if you have an issue
stiff hollow
I think he's talking about this:
It's doing that on just about every page other than the main page. If it isn't what he's talking about, it might be my script blockers, but I've been tinkering for a while and nothing seems to solve it, save for blocking the image itself.
sour berry
classic svg where it's not necessary
grand magnet
the css for the navbar is not loading properly in that case I believe
stiff hollow
Yeah, yeah, Asda, sorry for not spending two minutes in a graphical editor, cutting it, saving it, finding it, and pasting it in here to save you 50 pixels of space on the screen, lol.
sour berry
I'm talking about the icon itself
stiff hollow
Ahh, sorry. I take my snarky asshole-ishness back, then.
zinc zenith
OFFICIAL WIKI! halp
azure fox
The wiki may be loading a malicious website, NoScript started acting funky today, pages seem to get hung up loading a summerhamer.com domain
Came across it on the onslaught page; reference to a similiar issue on a poorly translated dutch security website
eternal oriole
Question - how would I go about adding a column to gem progression on this gem? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chance_to_Ignite_Support I want to contribute to the wiki when I see missing information like this.
bleak comet
Hey, I went ahead and fixed that. You can see how I did that in history. Basically copy/paste the earlier parameters, copy the stat text that changes value per level, replace the numbers in a similar way as the other column (lua patterns), preview and check that it worked correctly , submit. π
eternal oriole
Haha, I had just figured it out and was like, why is it saying there's a conflict when I tried to save
Thanks π
bleak comet
Ah, sorry about that. π
eternal oriole
No problem at all π Thanks again! Glad to be able to contribute now that I see how
bleak comet
There may very well be a few more of these. I haven't checked all the gems that now grants some ailments and tries to compensate for the double dipping loss.
eternal oriole
I'll keep an eye out
How does this look? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Elemental_Weakness
It was missing radius increased from the table
All curses are that I checked, so if that's good, I'll work on editing the other curses
bleak comet
AoE for the radius is a little bit misleading. How about"Additional<br>radius", or maybe "Added<br>radius"?
eternal oriole
Sounds good to me, I'll update that as well
ember raptor
bleak comet
The mods are correct. The problem there is that the infobox doesn't know how to sum the stats and/or remove them if the stat becomes zero.
eternal oriole
Hmm. I now realize that that's probably how Doomfletch's prophecy upgrade is handled, since 0 amount stats are hidden on items in game. Is it possible to just hide those two lines in the wiki? I personally thought Doomfletch's Prism had been nerfed without a patch note or anything earlier this league, before I looked it up on poe.trade, as I just read the last two lines.
eternal oriole
I'm seeing these reference errors in the Zana page and was wondering if anything needs to be done about them:
bleak comet
Text with references has probably been removed, but are still defined in the reflist template near the bottom.
eternal oriole
Gotcha.
grand magnet
Hiding specific texts like this case in on my to-do list
buoyant pumice
Hey, the other day I was looking at the Energy Shield page of the wiki for ways to get faster start of energy shield, and after a long time of looking around I found that Leo has a ring enchant. I thought this might be useful information to have on the Energy Shield page of the wiki, but I'm not sure where it would fit best. And would it lead to having a section of master crafting for all such pages? Most of the time something like that isn't really required, but this is a pretty obscure ring enchant (it's so easy to forget about Leo).
eternal oriole
Does anyone know why the Prophecies page was changed? Looks like it happened from user Alleryn on 5 September 2017 at 03:17. Not sure if that's my time (PST) or GMT.
And then Finalshade undid that revision, but then Molldust undid Finalshade's revision...
grand magnet
look at the discussion page
eternal oriole
I see now. Where is the SMW table?
sour berry
yeah that's what the page says
light linden
heh
lone sky
Are there any wiki admins? I wanted to create a discussion page for Extra Stash Tab and couldn't do so because of "Global AF - New user adding phone number to new pages", probably because of forum threads and archive.org links.
Username is VADemon
Ok, it at least let me save that page (I completed the "10 edits on wiki" achievement meanwhile) - however this issue will still persist for new users willing to link archive.org I believe
trim ocean
I think either the info for this item is listed wrong in the wiki. Either that, or the rolls on Xbox are different.
If that is correct, how did I roll this damage range when I got one
Wiki says the top range for the physical damage roll is (204-276), yet mine rolled 186
trim ocean
Ah, ty. So I just got a stupid unlucky roll with this.
spare urchin
Are there any ongoing community efforts to map out the dialogue since 3.0? (For All Ears.) I'd like to contribute. π
sullen lake
i dont know who is doing it but i know iv seen peeps do it for pre 3.0
spare urchin
OK. Thanks. π I'll try throwing some of what I've found on the wiki page, at least.
hardy ravine
just going to leave this here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vortex
grand magnet
?
weak basalt
@hardy ravine talking about the grammar?
hardy ravine
yeah that whole section right there
guessing whoever did that is not native to English
wheat jetty
you are welcome to rewrite it
dusk bear
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Captured_Soul_of_Mother_Phyia - the map boss of factory cant be captured. I cant open the map with a vessel
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Captured_Soul_of_Thraxia - the map boss of spider lair cant be captured. I cant open the map with a vessel
weak basalt
π€
lucid jetty
are you opening shaped maps or something? or new bug
tidal maple
why not? does it give a reason?
weak basalt
Interesting
dusk bear
theres also no blue text under the map name thing on atlas
tidal maple
did you complete the pantheon?
lucid jetty
i presume tehre is no limitation for maps not being corrupted or something else?
tidal maple
by complete the pantheon i meant get all the images filled in in the pantheon
dusk bear
also here a proof that its not completed https://puu.sh/xLMVU.png
lucid jetty
Rek'tar is in the George map, and that won't open either?
dusk bear
am I being stupid?
lucid jetty
wait what, the pantheon image says capture Rek'tar
dusk bear
but on wiki it says "Captured Soul of Thraxia is a Pantheon soul. It can be given to Sin to upgrade the Soul of Garukhan Pantheon power."
lucid jetty
Have they done derp and changed who needs to be captured?
dusk bear
yeah its slow af, thought its my net
what about this one then? https://puu.sh/xLNbF.png
tidal maple
is the wiki now outdated?
sharp wadi
aaaaaaa
echo sedge
I keep getting This site canβt be reached: ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR when committing edits, although they mostly do go through. Any idea what's up?
bleak comet
You're probably starting to hit server limits with so many large queries in one page.
slim tundra
Hey there! anyone else having problems with internet + Path of Exile? tested internet with speedtest.net, its quite ok, but when i log to poe, it drops totally to almost zero? w/o poe application on, download speed around 20mbps and upload the same, but when poe application is on, it always drops to like 0,5mbps, is there any way / reason to solve that problem ?
echo sedge
@bleak comet I guess that explains it, thanks. Any idea what I did wrong with the unique flasks? Mods that should be there don't show up, and there's a few mods with no effect description.
grand magnet
@echo sedge link to what you're trying to do?
echo sedge
echo sedge
I imagine unrestricting the domain and filtering for mod strings containing flask would work, but I'm interested why the current approach doesn't work
grand magnet
yeah some of them use item mod domain
echo sedge
If I understand you correctly, this is not a problem with pypoe nor the wiki's database/query system, but rather ggg didn't correctly categorize those mods in the ggpk?
grand magnet
Well sort of, the identity of the domains is reversed. I think they're not inthe same domain as the other flask mods because the generation on unique items work differently and there is somthing special about the flask generation
desert frigate
would there be a good way to show which mods are local and which are global for unique items?
colour coding or little icons or something?
grand magnet
it's more complicated then that because t echnically the mods themselves aren't local or global
but the stats are
I believe for the randomly generated ones they're named Local... internally at least but not sure about unique items
sour berry
because I assume it's no longer accurate with the act changes
fossil phoenix
was = get div card -> wiki ->div-card-page (drops) 1 click
now = get div card -> wiki ->div-card-page (no info about drops) -> search -> divination cards -> ctrl+f 3 clicks
if this okay fine.
π
grand magnet
drop info is on the right side in the infobox
fossil phoenix
right side?
this info on bottom page
Acquisition
Level: 1
The Putrid Cloister
The Torched Courts (Act 5), The Torched Courts (Act 10), Izaro's Treasure, Diviner's Strongbox
Sell Price
1x Scroll Fragment
under div-card pics
pic
wiki pages must be newbie friendly )
grand magnet
It's still on the right side, in the same space where the divination card is placed, just below it yes, just like it is for all items
fossil phoenix
on my browser
Huge div picture
and your "drop info"
on bottom page
maybe we can add something after Level 1:
like Drop Restriction
fossil phoenix
i as newbie cant understand that
this drop restriction or just random words
lore etc
grand magnet
it doesnt just say "drop restriction" because the space may be used for other means of acquisition
fossil phoenix
so we cant because need space for other stuff
so maybe we can return previous drop restrictions
people came to div card page, check what they get from full set div-card and after that check where they can farm on next block
or we use too much memory for our wiki? so we cant keep few more lines of text.
well i understand your position.
00:13 House of Mirrorsβ (diff | hist) . . (-82)β . . OmegaK2 (talk | contribs)
grand magnet
Generally I dont think that information should be duplicated
snow geyser
unique anchor
strong maple
The Rogue Exile Lists in the Wiki don't show what skills they use now?
rich widget
I think the idea is to let each individual article for rogue exiles explain the details of that rogue exile. The article titled "Rogue exile" is meant to explain what a rogue exile is.
strong maple
I mean even the Direct Articles too
They used to show what skills the Rogue Exile used (N/C/M) as well. Probably an oversight?
bleak comet
The rogue exile pages was outdated, lacked most of the new exiles. The information is still there if you check the source although someone's been messing with the monster box so it doesn't show all of theat information anymore.
flat eagle
anyone know why section links in the table of contents aren't jumping to the proper section on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Frequently_asked_questions
actually, it seem sto be working on edge
rich widget
Section links for the official FAQ don't work when the official FAQ is collapsed.
Really, the FAQ page should be reworked. We don't need to reproduce the official FAQ verbatim on the wiki.
jaunty wigeon
Getting server errors when trying to edit?
What is the server error? (500, 501, 502, internal, http, etc. etc.)
- When did the server error occur?
(Time + day + timezone and the action that you tried to do) - Which wiki(s) and/or page(s) are you experiencing it on?
- Send screenshots.
You're allowed to send multiple issues in one ticket, just keep them seperate if they were not received at the same time.
https://gamepedia.zendesk.com/
Note that image uploads will eventually even out. Only submit a ticket if you aren't able to complete your upload.
rich widget
I see that Template:Il and Template:Item link transclude the same wikicode. Is there any reason to leave Template:Il as its own template rather than simply using a redirect to Template:Item link?
grand magnet
Not anymore, used to be when we still had the old item template running
redirect should be fine now
fading tartan
Hey, I noticed Allelopathy Sorcerer Gloves are not in the list of unique items that increase AoE (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area_of_effect#Items_that_affect_Area_of_Effect)
Should I somehow do something about it or is it fine mentioning it here?
echo sedge
@fading tartan fixed, thx
strange saffron
bug
mystic hollow
The Wiki says the Rouge Exiles can be found at Prison's Gate, but I saw them on The Climb
sour berry
rogue exiles can be anywhere
especially in turmoil where they can be guaranteed by the rotating nemesis mod
sullen lake
π€ nemesis is rare monsters
quaint seal
yriels got new 3d
full quail
Spent like 30 minutes trying to find old info on legacy quantity mods on gear. Could someone add this to the wiki somewhere?
"... of Collecting" (4-8%)
"... of Gathering" (9-12%)
"... of Hoarding" (13-16%)
"... of Amassment" (17-20%)
sullen lake
a legacy modifier page with a history theme could be nice
light linden
I tried to lookup legacy crit multi yesterday too
while I deleted pages worth of old garbage 
desert frigate
would there be a quick way to make the "vendor" line on unique item pages more clear? a lot of new players seem to think it's the cost to buy the item rather than what it sells for
bleak comet
If it's in the normal text it should/will be removed, granted that the sell price in the infobox is correct which is not always the case.
grand magnet
@desert frigate If Illviljan change to the text is not good enough feel free to recommend a change
gloomy phoenix
Any reason why the wiki seems to be defaulting to mobile version of the page on a desktop browser?
???
might just be a me-thing tho
looks like the nav got fucked up or something @grand magnet any ideas?
grand magnet
go to the very bottom of the page and click "desktop"
gloomy phoenix
grand magnet
or add &mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop to url
gloomy phoenix
this is the bottom at 80% zoom
there's an option for mobile view, looks like (my) desktop view is fucked
grand magnet
then it might be some css (style)s not loading correctly, it sometimes happens
can try refreshing the cache
CTRL + F5 when you have the wiki open
gloomy phoenix
purging the cache worked, thanks for the help Omega
full quail
is it me or wiki formatting just became really weird?
supple thistle
Google Chrome? Settings > Advanced Settings > Privacy (section) > Content Settings > Cookies > See All cookies and site data > (search) pathofexile.gamepedia.com > click the trashcan
worked for me
sullen lake
the css isnt loading
refreshing generally does the trick or just waiting
[and then refreshing]
supple thistle
i've tried regular refresh and also the CTRL + F5 refresh and that doesn't seem to do the trick, just seems to be going into those settings to do it =/
and it keeps happening about every 10 or so pages
grand magnet
it seems this time it's a global issue on gamepedia, I don't know when curse can look into this it's thanksgiving in the us I believe
flat eagle
Amazon would have to take a look at that actually.
considering that twitch got gamepedia, curse got migrated into twitch & amazon bought twitch
grand magnet
not really, curse is still responsible for that
fossil phoenix
wiki again down...
grand magnet
yup
grand magnet
it's gamepedia wide
fossil phoenix
I need merge twitch+gamepedia account to edit the wiki? Or this not necessary.
need to know before patch notice come alive.
fossil phoenix
wiki so slow today.
fossil phoenix
need edit barrage enchantments (remove +2 proj, move +1 to uberlab ench)
grand magnet
you don't need to edit enchants, they're mods
they'll be updated when new game data goes live
also the wiki slowness is GP wide
fossil phoenix
okay π
civic solar
The infobox for dialla'a malefaction mistakenly lists it as having a 104 int requirement, since malefaction actually has no attribute requirements
latent pelican
theres a many Lua error: callParserFunction: function "#ask" was not found. on Bloodlust support page
hardy vale
rip wiki
hardy vale
yeah, probably a curse issue
grand magnet
It feels like they only have had problems since they've switched to AWS
they're rolling out "S3 media system" to their wikis, I guess somehing went wrong but they're aware at least
sour berry
yep
eager beacon
the wiki looks weird now
o_O
looks like they stripped all the PoE custom styling?
lunar garden
I just hope they're able to fix those issues latest on friday
oblique grotto
jaunty wigeon
The Gamepedia 2017/2018 Editor Survey is here! We're looking to gather information about your experience on Gamepedia and what features you are interested in seeing developed. Please take some time to fill out the survey and provide your input!
https://cursemedia.typeform.com/to/RGPTO6
trim pine
gone for the night. its on tomarrow
tender jackal
@grand magnet the wiki update bot just removed the gem description from firestorm and added in sem new stast that aren't displayed in the page any idea whats going on with that ?
grand magnet
I'll look into it
zinc zenith
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ice_Shot
Getting some "lua error" here
zinc zenith
grand magnet
SMW was temporarily disabled earlier which would show errors all over the wiki
yeah you're just seeing a cached version
zinc zenith
wouldn't a ctrl f5 work?
zinc zenith
hm, do you know how long does it take to cloudflare to update?
grand magnet
Don't know sorry
zinc zenith
no problem
tender jackal
@grand magnet was the update to firestorm just made in error, it looks like it was just undone but I may be missing something
grand magnet
@tender jackal: It was two bugs, one which removed the description and the other which added unnecessary stuff to the page
tender jackal
aw man, because that extra stat sounded awesome, fire damage as % of max life
grand magnet
0% fire damage as % of max life
zinc zenith
Omega
Figured If I would go Mobile then back to desktop, the error would go away. In case anyone really wants to see a page
I had to do that for all the pages thou
grand magnet
I suppose you can edit the page (make no changes) and just hit preview
it should show the current page as well
slate badger
i cant even look at the curse page rlly https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Curse#Active_gems
formal whale
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Goddess_Bound
"3.1.0 (Undocumented) The Goddess Bound has been dropped disabled."
Are you sure ? Because, I just got one.
formal whale
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2037814
Confirmed : The Goddess Bound and The Goddess Scorned are not disabled, only The Goddess Unleashed is.
ripe pawn
Is the wiki dead, or...?
This page isnβt working
pathofexile.gamepedia.com is currently unable to handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 503
is what I'm getting
sharp vessel
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Demoness
"No drop locations known as of now"
Just got one from the northern forest act 7. Not sure how to update the page without screwing it up or getting in trouble...
flat eagle
twin gale
can't wait for SMW to be re-enabled. got pending card drops π¦
grand magnet
Curse turned off SMW temporarily because of issues, so you'll see those errors all over the wiki
It's back on now, errors are gone, but you might still see them due to caching unless you're logged into the wiki with a pro account
twin gale
@small anvil thanks. I must be blind, is there a tutorial for how to add items (div cards) drops to a map page?
twin gale
oh god that's convoluted. we should add a comment on each map page on how to do that
I've edited SMW wikis before and even I didn't "find" that just by going "I'll add this drop to the wiki and do my bit!"
grand magnet
technically the easist way is to just copy paste the area id into drop_areas from the area infobox
twin gale
doesn't look like the div card page has an edit template either, so you have to do "edit source" not "edit". I don't see a regular poe user ever contributing with these hoops
grand magnet
do you know what extension this "edit template" is part of
sounds like good thing to add to the wiki
twin gale
I use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms on my wiki
to provide nice edit templates for my infoboxes/templates
grand magnet
do you happen to know if can support arbtiary set of input parameters? I vaguely renember looking at it a few ago and I think it didnt
for example here I renember not being able to support things like that but that may have changed
if you used it you might know
twin gale
sorry I don't know offhand
oak yoke
Is there any word on the script error fix?
twin gale
I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but as a new user, I would have prefered if the div card page say https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Her_Mask had a section called Drop restrictions. Then in that section you would bullet list add the SMW maps. Like:
- [[map_drop: Flooded_Mine_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas)]]
or if doing SMW attributes directly is icky (as it often is), wrap them in templates.
- {{map_drop|Flooded_Mine_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas)}}
of course the danger given the default is the WYSIWG is that someone will just type out the name of the map without using the link, so shrug tradeoffs with both ways
bleak comet
but there's not just divination cards that have drop restrictions.
twin gale
but two pages cannot have the same name, so no need for area_ids really, unless it's a speed thing in SMW queries
@bleak comet maybe I'm missing something but I don't see how that matters
grand magnet
area ids dont change as much as page names plus we can validate them better then pages
twin gale
@grand magnet that is a good point
anyways, investing in a good tutorial for new users on how to add drops seems important, as the current process is non-obvious.
and linking it from the places where said user will likely go first to make the edit
grand magnet
Leaves the question on where and how to add such a note
Edit notices are namespace wide I believe, and comments in the wikitext are suboptimal
twin gale
as much as it doesn't "belong" in the article itself, I would use an italizised text in the article itself.
bleak comet
A hoover somewhere in the Item acquisition template?
twin gale
inserted via the template
so that when looking at the map page itself there is something like: To add item drops, follow [[our tutorial]]
under the drop table
if you honestly want poe users to also become poe wiki editors
I wouldn't do it for everything
but the most common "entry level contributions" should probably be hand held like that
you can even put a little icon infront of the text
I wouldn't make it a big box notice, that would be too obtrusive
that way it even shows up in the WYSIWG editor
and you don't have to worry about show source comments in your template when creating new pages
can just be directly added to {{Item acquisition}} template. thoughts?
grand magnet
Something like an icon would probably ok
bleak comet
I think a right aligned question mark with some hoover text could do the trick.
twin gale
yes a link to the tutorial is key
hence why I suggest something like:
(?) To add items to this table, see [[How to edit item acquisition|our guide]].
@small anvil here's a skeleton tutorial I just typed up quickly: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/How_to_edit_item_acquisition
based on my experience adding div cards to maps
btw, is there a way to specify that the div card drops from the boss?
for example on the old atlas map page: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Arid_Lake_Map_(Atlas_of_Worlds)
grand magnet
use just drop_text
drop_areas is specfically to handle area restrictions
drop_text is for everything else currently
twin gale
ah ok
too bad the div card table on the map page doesn't show the drop text as an extra column https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Arid_Lake_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas)
but maybe it would be too busy if so, depending on how much stuff we are cramming in there
grand magnet
you mean in "items found in this area"?
Well yeah the reason is technical, drop text can be anything, where as this just goes by the area
In theory in the future with some proper template for monsters we can show bosses from particular monsters from a particular area as well but not currently
twin gale
@grand magnet added screenshots to the guide, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:How_to_edit_item_acquisition
I'm done touching it for now, should be a decent starting point
@grand magnet ok if I add a sentence like the above to the Item acquisition template to appear bellow the table?
grand magnet
I'll be going with just an icon for now
<h2>Item acquisition[[File:Questionmark.png|right|24px|link=Path_of_Exile_Wiki:How_to_edit_item_acquisition]]</h2>
this roughly if you want to look at how it looks
twin gale
sure, that's fine
thanks for taking a look at this, and hopefully this helps others get started contributing to the wiki
grand magnet
Thanks for writing that guide
cobalt briar
grand magnet
SMW turned off
twin gale
does GP do this a lot? if so, may not be worth using SMW
if it breaks the wiki constantly
grand magnet
It's a recent problem
moving away from SMW will take some time to port over everything thoguh
twin gale
at the very least there may be a way to use a template that checks if SMW is currently working, (say by checking if an expression is evaluated) and display a warning at the top of the page if it's not working
I'm a big fan of SMW in that you need way less bots to ensure consistency though
and can display more info everywhere
grand magnet
yes that's the point
but the problem right now is that GP did some changes to their infrastucture and SMW doesn't really play nice
it seems to be causing major issues
GP's intention is to switch to cargo instead of SMW
twin gale
that's too bad, you lose all the SMW extension ecosystem
though I've had my own share of SMW woes in admining a wiki
interesting that Cargo is made by one of the biggest SMW extension authors, Yaron Koren
must have been a political split with the people running SMW for him to feel the need to fork shit, or remake
grand magnet
To be honest SMW seems to be poorly written on the database end
cargo seems to provide "SQL in wikitext" more or less so hopefully it shouldnt suffer the same problems
Either way the current situation isn't good for anyone
nimble olive
any updates on when the site is gonna be fixed?
potent turtle
oh is that's what's causing all those Lua errors in almost every page....I'm gonna suggest the obvious solution...switch away from GP or mirror on another wiki platform for when they inevitabally break it again. 'cause you know, GP is part of Curse, and Curse breaks everything sooner, later, and all the damned time.
twin gale
heh, got a thread on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/7j6bmd/γ€_γ€_wiki_team_take_my_energy_γ€_γ€/
fossil phoenix
Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Jungle Valley Map
π§
late zinc
fossil phoenix
yeap i know
so when they fix this problem someone know?
or need rewrite all wiki without this module
crimson gulch
Of gamepedia wikis in general or just 30-40% of poe one?
fossil phoenix
poe, this module everywhere.
crimson gulch
Yeah, weird they haven't disabled it on other wikis tho
grand magnet
It's stalling the wiki to a halt recently
Not sure what there is to do other then rushing the smw parts to cargo
grand magnet
they enabled/disabled smw a few times in the recent days
it seem they just let it be disabled now
crimson gulch
Right but are we sure Cargo would fix the issue?
grand magnet
I don't know, I'd suspect so
It wasn't really possible to test it on the same scale so far because SMW apprently also broke cargo
grand magnet
I don't think you'll get anywhere with that yea
I mean you can add it but you'll just see errors everywher eanyway and it wont work
fossil phoenix
i ask because dont want edit same page for 2-3 times
Aquistion not working (
so i add info something like this
grand magnet
I'll keep the syntax the same for templates
but it will be a while until it will show up correctly again
rich widget
@crimson gulch I wake up to find that the entire wiki is broken. I wasn't privy to the decision to turn off SMW. This is a total surprise to me.
rich widget
I knew they were having issues with SMW, but I thought it was something Gamepedia staff would fix. That's their job after all.
Here's hoping they're still working on a fix for it, rather than simply disabling it for good.
fossil phoenix
sure they work
if work dont touch it.they need migrate
now we have this)
what next
crimson gulch
Damn, yeah that's real weird they did that
grand magnet
it was affecting whole gamepedia
bleak zealot
wow, what a mess. No communication from curse whether it will stay disabled or not?
rich widget
I haven't heard anything yet.
Before latching onto Cargo as a solution, I'd like to know that it isn't already a sinking ship.
grand magnet
@rich widget as far I can tell cargo is much faster
bleak zealot
This whole thing seems like a planning failure on Curse's end to me, you don't just disable modules with no warning on a big platform like gamepedia. I guess maybe they backed themselves into a corner and the issues became more severe after the AWS migration
rich widget
I don't see what we can do besides wait for Gamepedia's staff to tell us what's going on with this situation. I want them to vet Cargo before we start rebuilding all of our modules using it.
bleak zealot
understandable
wouldn't wanna start rewriting half the wiki only to be told "woops, start over"
unreal portal
what's SMW?
bleak zealot
semantic media wiki
grand magnet
tbh other then cargo and smw I don't think there are any mediawiki extensions that can do what those can do
crimson gulch
The other option is to abandon Curse and move efforts elsewhere if they're not willing to support the community
bleak zealot
i mean if SMW is causing server issues by being dreadfully inefficient it's fair to disable it, but not without at least a few weeks of warning
rich widget
Or hours. Or an immediate post mortem.
crimson gulch
They only hurt themselves with disabling it tbh
rich widget
I doubt they have any choice at this point. It was apparently breaking wikis that weren't even using it.
rich widget
As far as I know, yeah.
grand magnet
It was slow at times but working, I think some changes on their backend have bricked it
or dont place nice with smw
crimson gulch
Yeah, damn, guess nothing can be done until Curse pull their finger out
crimson gulch
Any news from gp team @rich widget @grand magnet ?
grand magnet
no
grand magnet
Not quite, they want to convert to cargo as I said ....
crimson gulch
Right but if they're not actually talking to you about it
rich widget
Maybe they are working with wiki admins, but they haven't reached out to us yet.
Seems to be taking a long time though. Going on half a day now, at least.
grand magnet
Well cargo would be an option if it didn't have the same problems I've pointed out like months ago
it still doesn't gobble up all the data correctly >_>
crimson gulch
Right but you two are like the PoE wiki admins
light linden
@grand magnet should I announce that the wiki knows it is broken but they can't do anything while curse changes the backend?
grand magnet
yeah that would be helpful there should be a better summary I think though
"Currently the PoE wiki has SMW (Semantic Mediawiki) disabled due to recent major issues it has caused. Due to the widespread usage of SMW within the PoE wiki, a large portion of the pages will appear broken or show errors. The wiki community admins and curse are aware of the problems and are looking into solutions."
not sure if you want to put more info there
rich widget
Regarding the recent PoE wiki issues:
Semantic Mediawiki (SMW) has been disabled on the PoE wiki due to major issues it has recently caused across the Gamepedia network. The PoE wiki makes widespread use of SMW, which means a large portion of the pages will appear broken or show errors. The community admins and Curse are aware of the issue and are looking into solutions.
light linden
cool announced thanks
do I understand correctly that you @rich widget are the other main wiki admin?
fossil phoenix
@light linden# yeap
light linden
he's an exile now π
rich widget
Upgraded from regular pleb.
fossil phoenix
grand magnet
Finally gotten your discord acesendancy class
eternal oriole
What's the plan for the wiki, or is that still being decided? I'd like to help if I can
light linden
yeah till today I didn't even know Vinifera was the other wiki admin I'd have added him to exile long ago otherwise
rich widget
Cargo is a possible alternative to SMW, but Omega says it still has issues.
rich widget
Yeah..
cinder crow
any idea when's the wiki getting fixed?
crimson gulch
Lol
light linden
no 
bleak comet
Rome is burning. And it won't be rebuilt in one day...
flat eagle
Still a work in progress but I figured with new div cards going out, supposed altered drop locations and the wiki being a little funky I'd make a spreadsheet that everyone can edit to share drop locations for div cards. Since it's open to everyone to edit I'll be backing it up often so that any troll edits/deletions get ironed out. This is mainly for those who don't understand editing the wiki/don't want to edit the wiki and would rather tab out for just a second to track where a div card drops; or on the other hand those who would like to edit the wiki but don't have the information on the location the div card drops in. \o/ figured it'd be a nice little thing. I'm still filling quite a bit of it out myself, but feel free to add zones/maps and whatnot. Enjoy https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RDCFW-_oaL2DJzellrc3RGo6AMFa-nH2kLxMRIqP7mU/edit?usp=sharing
rich widget
grand magnet
hm
smw back on
something bricked with item link it seems
ah, SMW result formats isnt on
potent turtle
Mostly for shits and giggles, and my own amusement, how big is the entirety of the wiki? I wonder if there's somewhere else that it could be mirrored. (mirrored...hah...puns)
grand magnet
No idea
there is https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:Statistics which you can check out
potent turtle
oh ya, special stats is a thing that exists...let me do some math real quick...
~1.3 GB, rounding up for safety, mosly in images...hmmm..slightly too big for Referatas premium tier, and i'm not too sure about Miraheze's SMW support, but i'll poke their IRC just to see...
nope no SMW on Miraheze. Referata is specifically built around SMW though, and we'd be able to put it in their 50$/month ad-supported tier with room to spare....hmmm....I wonder if there's a way to dump the entire thing in a sane, organized fashion for mirroring.
zealous crow
wiki is not working :C
twin gale
@grand magnet perhaps the site notice could direct users to use the google cache for pages until this is fixed?
astral thicket
hey i need an update on the WIKI situation
i have no real game knowledge without the WIKI
cyan igloo
it went to hell
their trying to fix it.
basically the wiki is 2 big for its own good now
potent turtle
Well, it went to hell in a specific way. Gamepedia concluded/decided that a plugin that some of their wikis were using was causing issues accross all gamapedia wikis, so pulled it without telling anyone.
But Gamepedia/Curse has this new tool that should replicate all the functionality you had before, so you should just use it instead!
So typical Curse/Twitch mucking things up.
crimson gulch
A new tool that doesn't exist and hasn't adequately been tested
blazing spoke
Please repair the wiki
fossil phoenix
fossil phoenix
/fix wiki
Seems not work.
flat eagle
saying "fix the wiki" makes as much sense as "fix the servers" and only indicates a pure lack of knowledge on how these things actually work
fossil phoenix
sure , if you dont know how migrate to avs dont do this π
rich widget
@twin gale Thanks. I added a link to the most recent stable cache on web.archive.org.
fossil phoenix
@rich widget for a ->> chached version of the wiki.
rich widget
Did I misspell it?
fossil phoenix
y
rich widget
Fixed
fossil phoenix
Thanks
grand magnet
Making slow progress on the ports...
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Modifier_table/doc#Using_other_tables_using_join can be used to replace some of the modifier stuff on the wiki
hearty shuttle
I am having trouble accessing the wiki on the archive site you mentioned. Can you be specific on how to use it properly?
tender kite
damn the wiki is killing me
rich widget
I saw that too. It went away when I refreshed the page.
fossil phoenix
yeap after refresh this text dissapear, but this not normal.
glossy bay
any changes to deauth aura in 3.1?
grand magnet
@fossil phoenix It's a bug I've seen happening every now and then for a long time, no idea what's causing it
it seems to be much more common now though
grand magnet
Found a way to turn SMW on back on the wiki without the wiki dieing entirely
rich widget
Rad!
grand magnet
If anyone wants to help out check out https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:To-do_list/SMW_migration and post there in the discussions if you have questions.
fossil phoenix
so much work..
well now cant login π
Sorry, an error occurred while processing your request.
grand forge
Do you have a screenshot/url for that?
fossil phoenix
just open https://www.gamepedia.com/ -> Sign in -> Login
and error =)
dont know why, but gamepedia just kick me from site =)
grand forge
Do you get to Login with twitch /with curse screen?
fossil phoenix
y
grand forge
Which one are you using?
fossil phoenix
click on gamepedia login , username pass, ask me later -> kick to main site ->try login again with gamepedia and error
seems again they have problem.
grand forge
We're looking into this, I'll let you know if there's anything you can do to work around it as soon as I can.
fossil phoenix
logged
was on login screen with gamepedia(login), and then site refresh and send me to main site with my login.
twin gale
just wanted to drop in and say thanks for working things out with the wiki
bleak comet
@fossil phoenix I had the same problem, had to merge the account with twitch to make it work.
olive delta
Okay, I'm unsure where to post this, but https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Tombfist should be updated, since the wiki says "has 1 abyssal socket", but the glove can spawn with 2 sockets
restive timber
i mean abyss uniques should probably have variant listing, i guess
grand magnet
yes, the 1-2 sockets are variants, different mods
balmy lava
Hey guys. I saw a post on reddit saying there was a process to fix the wiki by converting stuff? Is there a tutorial for that for people that want to help out? I'm a developer so I'm familiar with coding stuff.
rich widget
@balmy lava There isn't a tutorial, but we have a to-do list for converting modules that use SMW to Cargo. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:To-do_list/SMW_migration
balmy lava
Gotcha. Thanks Vini
eternal oriole
Hey all, looks like the wiki may be down. Anyone else unable to reach it?
eternal oriole
I'm getting a 503 error
ripe pawn
Is there anywhere else I can find the rolls on Watcher's Eye while the wiki is being garbage again?
fossil phoenix
someone know why gamepedia sign out me today and yesterday.
login on site then few minutes later came again to site : "Hey bro you need log in"
bleak comet
They've changed the account authentication. You now must connect with a twitch account.
bleak comet
yes, I was avoiding it for the longest as well.
wraith wing
@ripe pawn http://poedb.tw/us/unique.php?n=Watchers_Eye here you are
grand forge
Wiki is back, watching closely as SMW killed it again.
fossil phoenix
π
fossil phoenix
Q. What happens if I decide not to merge my account?
A. Account merging is optional on some Curse media sites and required on others (example: Azurilland and Gwentdb). If you are on a site with optional merging and decide to not merge your account, you'll continue logging in with your Curse display name and password. If you are on a site where a Twitch account is required, you will not be able to login without the Twitch account.
our wiki require curse->twitch merge?
rich widget
I think so.
prisma sable
hi,here have channel brazil ?
fossil phoenix
someone can login to gamepedia?
with/without "twich-merge "
try login on anothers wiki but situation the same.infinity redirect.
funny thing try login to gamepedia 5-10m, then write here and logged in
ornate linden
Hi, there is a spanish speaker player.
So this is the matter: A small group in the spanish speaker's comunity want to 'Start' the PoE Wiki in spanish, like happened with the French Language but, we ignore wich is the procces to start that. Additionally, most of us, haven't the experience working in wiki issues. So we will be grateful your help, your knowledge and your guide starting with this to expand the popularity of the game in our language. So, how we start? π
sullen lake
@grand magnet @ornate linden wants to work on the spanish lang version of the wiki
grand magnet
check this out: https://help.gamepedia.com/Translation_guidelines
When I've talked about curse about other wikis before, they'd expect some reasonable amount of editors for that new wiki (aka activity), head admin would also need to have experience with mediawiki afaik
ornate linden
Thank's π
steel ether
wiki updated for div cards? looking for drop zone for celestial justicar
fossil phoenix
nope
analog moth
the wiki is still showing these LUA errors π¦
crimson gulch
@analog moth what are you doing to help?
tawny walrus
anything i can do to help fix pages such as https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_life_flasks ?
on the surface it looks like just a malformed query,
which is presumably a side effect of the move from SMW
grand magnet
some of the flask pages are bugged atm so they dont show up there
tawny walrus
is ther any way i could help un-bug them?
i'm struggling to find info anywhere else
grand magnet
I know where the problem is but there is a chance the wiki bricks again due to SMW
grand magnet
The problem is last time I tried to make minor fixes like this on a weekend the wiki was unreachable, so :/
robust iron
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lioneye's_Paws
is not linked in
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_boots
or
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bronzescale_Boots
just thought i should tell someone who is capable of changing wiki (i once tried, but its too complex for me xD)
robust flame
what's wrong with the wiki now a days :(
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Flask
^ go down, everything would be red.
grand magnet
See my reply above
robust flame
My bad...i read the history after writing the text.
Good luck fixing it man. π
vivid obsidian
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_skill_gems_dealing_spell_damage darn, they really nerfed spell builds. I'm getting the text "Active skill gems that deal spell damage. Currently, there are no active skill gems that deal spell damage."
restive timber
lol
bleak comet
See comments above. A lot of things isn't working correctly at the moment.
half fiber
Unique weapons list are also broken it seems. Wonder what's going on
bleak comet
The wiki relies on a database (SMW) to show most item tables. That database hasn't been working correctly since beginning of December.
spring pumice
To someone who knows how the Lua stuff works (@grand magnet): We've got this lovely image https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/File:The_Tidal_Island_(Act_6)_area_screenshot.jpg that doesn't show up anywhere because Module:Area only uses the area name (not act) to find the screenshot. Would it be possible to have it prefer File:<Area_name>_(<Act>)_area_screenshot.jpg if it exists, and fall back to File:<Area_name>_area_screenshot.jpg if it doesn't?
grand magnet
I'll change it to use main_page if specified for the screenshot
I won't commit that change until next week though, curse is just on emergency staff until wednesday and the wiki has a tendency of bricking at the moment
spring pumice
cool, good plan
odd wigeon
someone linked in general: https://i.imgur.com/Bg47kMV.png
if its on oracle/teradata/sql server i might help
no idea where it happened (just copy-pasting link from someone else) but it seems to show logID/timestamp atleast if there are logs in db it should be reachable
bleak comet
Its probably a Cargo error (similar to sql). There's some serious testing going on at the moment.
grand sentinel
is the wiki managed by GGG or 100% player run?
bleak comet
So it will look like this for a while.
karmic quartz
saw there was a message saying that they were on tehy way to fixing it
grand sentinel
are these Lua/Cargo bugs the one causing some pages to be empty or is https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_gloves actually just empty?
karmic quartz
"Currently trying to switch to cargo modules. SMW is disabled and there will be a lot of errors on the wiki during this process."
bleak comet
@grand sentinel That's mainly due to the SMW database not working correctly since the beginning of december.
grand sentinel
ah ok, I just started the game so I was going to the wiki a lot, and its confusing when pages are empty on an official wiki π
odd wigeon
database was updated at beggining of december or ggg added some keywords to the mix then? π
fossil phoenix
work fine->problem with wiki and old module->not work->someone fix->work some pages->now again not work
oak yoke
Wiki still says Currently trying to switch to cargo modules. For the time being SMW is disabled and there will be a lot of errors on the wiki during this process. So I guess whoever is working is not done yet
fossil phoenix
only 1-2 wiki-editors work on this problem thats why too slow π§
hasty briar
Who can I talk to if I wanted to volunteer to help with the wiki problems?
fossil phoenix
need to know lua as i know
bleak comet
It's a lot of programming with lua, SMW and cargo.
fossil phoenix
for switch smw -> cargo
hasty briar
I'm a Linux systems administrator / devops engineer, I've done a bunch of coding, text translation, database stuff, so I figured I might be useful for them
stark elm
Windripper Attack speed is wrong on wiki, just so yall know. I'd fix it but idk how
grand magnet
Fixing that soon thanks for the report
mighty ruin
I wonder if there's anything I can do to help the wiki
I've done wiki editing in the past
wind bloom
I was wondering that too, although not sure how much I can help without knowing lua and stuff
wind bloom
Quick question; where it says items found in this area for a specific map, does it refer to divination cards and other items such as bases like bone helmets?
bleak comet
Mainly them yes. Not items that are truly a random drop.
wind bloom
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Tower_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas) currently doing this, not sure if there's a specific layout for map formats? I tried looking for one but I couldn't find anything other than the template
fossil phoenix
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Divination_card why here not all div-cards ?
what need add to div-card pages?
weary lily
sour berry
spine of the first claimant
pastel iris
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Droolmaw anyone ever found that guy I cannot find him in the belly any tips ???
pastel iris
yea nvm just spawned I got couple of runs without him I guess it is a chance of spawn
restive timber
i mean were you full clearing
pastel iris
yep full clear like I was running 15 minutes to look for hidden doors ^^
restive timber
weird, you probably just missed it.... somehow
you were checking /remaining and everything right
restive timber
wrong channel
amber jay
Would it be useful to report uniques missing from the Cargo API?
bleak comet
It's a known issue. There's a lot of duplicates if you prefer that?
amber jay
I can remove duplicates, I can't circumvent uniques that are simply missing
But it's not a big issue for me right now
I could however easily write down the missing uniques from my diff (at least those that were added pre 3.1.0). That's why I'm asking.
bleak comet
Null editing (saving a page without doing anything) the missing pages should add them to the cargo tables.
amber jay
OK, there are a lot but I'll try that
amber jay
Thanks, Wiki is slow right now so I'll continue tomorrow, but it does get them into the cargo tables.
grand magnet
if you can give ma list of what is missing I can bot the nulledits
amber jay
There you go
Good thing I stopped doing that manually myself, didn't realize it were that many
grand magnet
null edited them yesterday
amber jay
Thanks! Only https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ngamahu_Tiki missing now, which has a Lua error caused by someone having a Coral Amulet in their sandbox (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/api.php?action=cargoquery&format=json&limit=20&tables=items&fields=name%2C+items._pageName%3Dpage_title&where=name%3D"Coral+Amulet"&join_on=&group_by=&formatversion=1).
bleak comet
The item isn't there anymore. The cargo tables never updates and removes deleted items at the moment.
grand magnet
Short of deleting everything again :/
which leads to pages going missing
and everyone bitching about wiki being broken
karmic lion
yay gamepedia links β€
calm stratus
Hello, I'm not sure how to edit the wiki, so I thought I'd put here that the Vanguard Belt, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vanguard_Belt , also drops in Tower.
It's not on the list.
karmic lion
@calm stratus added (errors withstanding)
calm stratus
Thanks!
shadow surge
Hey everyone
can someone help me a bit with cargo queries?
I have been mucking with the minion page.
I have:
{{Query unique items
|where=items.tags HOLDS "twohand" AND items.rarity="Unique" AND (items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%Minion%" OR items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%Zombie%" OR items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%Spectre%" OR items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%Specter%" OR items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%Skeleton%" OR items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%Golem%" OR items.mods HOLDS LIKE "%AnimateWeapon%")
|large=1
|level=1
|stat=1
}}
why does this not include Jorrhast's Blacksteel?
shadow surge
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vanguard_Belt
why does that base have 3 lists of areas?
little zenith
how do i help out with the big linking project?
mental grove
is there any easy way to fill out the unique items added in abyss/WftA?
both of them have that section empty
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Abyss_league
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/War_for_the_Atlas
grand magnet
these tables just need to be updated with cargo
mental grove
thanks
tombfist doesn't seem to show up in the abyss league uniques tho
i can't see why
they both have drop leagues as abyss
okay, now it is
jaunty wigeon
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ember gulch
wiki says oba is 83 in last area but it says 84 in game
idk how to edit or what is happening , just thought to point it out because of spectre meta
bleak comet
Nothing is happening because it's just plain text.
sour berry
oba's area level changes as you progress down
heady jetty
@ember gulch Corrected Oba, the 83 was from last League. The base map shifted by 1 tier.
fossil phoenix
someone here ?
heady jetty
whats up
fossil phoenix
why this -> "The_Offering"not listed here as drop -> "Tower_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas)"
after edit *
heady jetty
it is for me. refresh the page again
fossil phoenix
finally listed
on page with "offering" but not on tower map (
maybe need sometime
2-5m
dusky lagoon
hey, could i get some help with a thing?
Bloodgrip is missing from https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_amulets
Ive never edited any pages before, how do i do it?
heady jetty
That list is automated. Not sure yet why Bloodgrip does not show up. Checked refreshing the cache, but thats not it.
heady jetty
@dusky lagoon Bloodgrip didn't show but because the internal data-set for the patch number wasn't proper, so it couldn't find the release data which caused the automated table to discard that result. It's in now.
So it was a very non-user-friendly issue.
dusky lagoon
ok π
bleak comet
You've done your part correctly. It shows up in most automatic tables, it'll show up eventually in the rest.
bleak comet
I think that when you fail with drop ids the entire div card crashes. The item acquisition is a query table too, so if that one works the rest will follow.
fossil phoenix
Try edit some pages on SMW_migration, but failed.Only one page was ok.
bleak comet
That's unfortunate . The table format and inputs aren't the same as it was before. though so it rarely is a simple copy/paste edit.
fossil phoenix
yeap i just saw how someone edit pages, and its work , but for 1 page.π
funny thing thats his edits fix errors on pages, but still appear on page with errors, mine edit dont.
bleak comet
Just bugs, don't stress about them. The database is full of duplicates that have errors at the moment. And you can't just delete them without disrupting the entire site, they will be removed when there's a good solution to the underlying problem.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:Known_issues for further reading.
fossil phoenix
@bleak comet Thank you.