i understand that, but the margin of error seems a bit too high, maybe
#tooldev-general
timid crest
like, if the aim is to provide a realistic currency value, it sadly seems too far off
frigid nova
Coming up with "realistic values" based on river data is a difficult task. I've found many instances where poe.watch seems much more accurate than poe.ninja
Also you should really focus on the most active leagues, since there are more data points and active trades.
timid crest
i'm not even comparing it to poe.ninja right now, i'm just checking the actual listings on the official trading platform, and i know for a fact most of those top5 listings would respond if i whispered
so in a real scenario like that, this "1:225" value is way too high and i can't depend on it to do any meaningful analysis
i do remember the currency ratios on poe.watch being way more sane previously, i wonder if that might be a bug
violet path
smaller currencies have always had issues
check out wisdom prices in standard, for example
but i believe its part of a tradeoff; poe.watch is usually faster to catch things rising/falling quickly compared to other trackers
deft jolt
yeah can confirm it's pretty tough filtering out the invalid listings
simple ravine
You could always try some kind of normal distribution formula, and also black list based on those from larger currencies like chaos or exalt
brazen rose
running TradeMacro just caused my virus cheker (Avast) to flag it as malware
looks like this is a known issue: https://github.com/PoE-TradeMacro/POE-TradeMacro/issues/943
violet path
Trade site correctly has different mods for "% increased Armour" and "% increased Armour (local)", but there are no (local) variations for hybrid local mods like "% increased Armour and Evasion". Pretty sure this wasn't always the case? @compact isle
pseudo ocean
is there a tool that allows us to autoloot specific loot with a button or somrthing
people be stealin saints treasure ;-;
frigid nova
That is solidly in the gray area of what is against ToS (with strong arguments its against ToS), so no one has developed it to my knowledge.
compact isle
@violet path I have a list that the suffix gets manually added to to reduce confusion
I don't see armour and evasion on here but can look into adding it
frigid nova
I seem to remember there being example of mod groups which could spawn both prefixes and suffixes on a given item, but am struggling to find an example of one. Does anyone know if such a group exists?
compact isle
the classic case I remember is item rarity
frigid nova
seems those are in differentiated mod groups ItemFoundRarityIncreasePrefix, ItemFoundRarityIncreaseSuffix
I wonder if there was a pass over all the mod groups at some point to prevent them from overlapping in both prefixes and suffixes...
compact isle
oh you mean actual groups
frigid nova
yeah
snow kernel
@brazen rose why on earth do you have avast running, you on win7 or smth?
simple ravine
Yeah
simple ravine
Well, it's the first setup that doesn't have the whole management thing inside the router, so I guess it's convenient to have a little thing to manage your setup
simple ravine
what challenges are u facing?
Ouch, can be a good idea to grab those backup config files
frigid nova
@compact isle I think the clipboard feature on the trade website might be bugged for beasts.
in game:
Rarity: Rare
Agonysucker the Harrying
Flame Hellion
trade website:
Rarity: Rare
the Harrying
Flame Hellion
Also colored text seems to be different:
in game:
Spectral Swipe
trade website:
{Spectral Swipe}}}
Will investigate
frigid nova
no rush, thanks!
golden bane
Path of Building's documentation states, that Ctrl + ~ brings up the console, but I can't get it to work. I use ISO-DE as layout, so I have to press AltGr + + (right Alt) to get a tilde. However, Path of Building already uses Alt as a shortcut for something else, so I changed my keyboard layout. Still not working. Does it work for someone else?
cosmic saffron
`~ are the same key on the top corner
golden bane
I had to change to US layout specifically, thank you both
small hatch
Does PoB account for culling strike in the dps calc?
jade adder
You can always check to see if the mod is highlighted red which will tell you if it is being factored in or not @small hatch
I don't see how culling strike could be since it would depend what you are killing
though you can factor it as an 11% more damage
practically it will be much different though
small hatch
I'm mostly looking at my dps vs lvl83 monsters, delving past 1k. Theoretically it's a 10% increase in damage I guess, I'll check for the mod highlight later thanks
small hatch
It's marylene's fallacy culling so @ 10% or lower ye
small hatch
Culling strike on Marylene's is marked as red so it's not included I guess
earnest ledge
its not accounted for
grave wren
@carmine merlin any preference on where to report bugs with the fork? sorting by dmg on minion builds still sorts by player stats (pob: https://pastebin.com/jEKupSja)
carmine merlin
That one is more of a feature request that I know a bunch of people want it there
It's already up on my feathub
grave wren
hm i'd seen it as a bug as it works with normal pob but good to know 🙂
carmine merlin
Oh really, I'll have a look into it now and see if I can fix it
frigid nova
@chrome topaz would it be possible to get copy and paste to work on pob.party on osx? (or is there a fancier way to import builds I don't know about?)
worthy cape
@compact isle in the reveal screenshots in news there has been weird colored glows around the item image. Will that somehow be communicated in whatever API results there are, or just promo art and in-game?
compact isle
that is a great question
we haven't done website implementation on it yet so I'll get back to you on details
essentially the glows are a representation of the influence on an item so it might result in changing shaper / elder into a new property in the item json
(and in the image URL)
velvet fog
"symbols": {
"shaper": "left",
"judicator": "right"
},
"shaper": true
https://www.pathofexile.com/protected-asset/two/items/icon/JudicatorItemSymbol.png
https://www.pathofexile.com/protected-asset/two/items/icon/BasiliskItemSymbol.png
https://www.pathofexile.com/protected-asset/two/items/icon/EyrieItemSymbol.png
https://web.poecdn.com/image/item/popup/shaper-symbol.png?1569220365594
https://web.poecdn.com/image/item/popup/elder-symbol.png?1569220365590
compact isle
the json changes on the announcement page aren't necessarily what we'll go with in terms of the public stash API etc
velvet fog
will the json changes come with patchnote?
compact isle
I'll do one of those forum posts in the Website APIs subforum about the changes
carmine merlin
Was implementing the mods for Vulconus to work in PoB and was wondering why every time I tried to activate Avatar of Fire to get the mods to work, it would crash. Thought maybe Openarl had some weird implementation of the node until I realised on one line I had been using an uppercase O in "Avatar of Fire" that broke everything 🤦🏻♂️
lavish gust
stringly-typed code is a nightmare
jade adder
Funny story, in one of the recent WoW raids there was an item that was supposed to increase your stats while fighting the final boss but it didn't work because they were using a string comparison and they spelled the name wrong on the item. The item said "G'hunn" and the bosses name was "G'huun".
Even though enemies have unique ID's
deft jolt
Find the intern 
lavish gust
git blame
or... as a better preventing method: grep all the code for uses of strings. Chances are something weird will show up.
grave wren
our licensed document management system served npm logs as pdfs via an inbuilt http server
i did not investigate further
lavish gust
aren't logs plaintext?
worthy cape
Management can't use plaintext, silly.
Someone reminded me today of PHP's beautiful md5('240610708') == md5('QNKCDZO') thing today.
grave wren
as i said i didnt even question the machine god in this document management system
lavish gust
that's MD5 problem, not PHP
unless PHP uses this algorithm in its own standard library eg in hash tables
worthy cape
@lavish gust No, the hashes doesn't match.
They both start with "0e, which ==-compared are clearly scientific notation numbers.
And 0 * 10^x is zero.
lavish gust
strings are the source of type safety errors in all languages
the question is why a checksum returns a string
grave wren
my favourite is php's iso date format
Note: This format is not compatible with ISO-8601, but is left this way for backward compatibility reasons. Use DateTime::ATOM or DATE_ATOM for compat
worthy cape
Ease of use to not have to coerce however you express a binary array into something printable.
lavish gust
Regarding formats, I liked the approach of some univeristy: the denied any incoming mail with attachments in specific formats (eg docx) with an automatic reply that they do not support closed software with a link to FSF's manigefesto and some information how to obtain free GNU software
worthy cape
I like how the PHP team tries their darndest to make the language slightly less meh.
worthy cape
Recent ones (7.4?) deprecates nested ?: statements if they don't have parens.
grave wren
i think php7.x is decently usable
i'd not want to use it because it doesnt fit any use case i have but i'd not hate it
lavish gust
wait
how a function which literally is named after ISO 8601 does not return an ISO-valid date?
like, it should be a bug from the beginning in the implementation
worthy cape
Not quite sure what part of it is incompatible, is it the colon-less TZ?
I thought that was fine.
At least according to Wikipedia, I don't own the ISO spec.
lavish gust
C and C++ have strict aliasing rules which break a ton of old libraries and the language committees don't give a shit about non-conformant code. It was stated in the spec in 1989, they blame people who write bad code and praise compilers for better optimizations. Can't PHP go this way?
grave wren
i think so yes
can't use the basic format for tz when you don't use it before
basic format being the date without - and : separators
worthy cape
According to some random-butt blog I found, seems like the standard allows both, but some other implementations (Edge, Safari) require the colon.
I'm toying around with an idea where I would need end-users to upload a fair bit of data for me to ingest and shortly later broadcast to a number of peers. What do the cool kids do for that, write-only S3 buckets or something?
lavish gust
go Wikipedia
grave wren
worthy cape
You had me worried and made me go look at some work code. "%Y%m%dT%H%M%SZ"
Can't heck up timezone if it's always zulu 😄
grave wren
maybe
worthy cape
Wait... is the PHP library Carbon named after "carbon dating"?
Clever 😄
Beats Python's "arrow".
grave wren
i liked working with carbon and yep i think so
compact isle
not sure on the exact item filter implementation but I'll see if I can find out
civic sluice
Does anyone know the detailed mechanics of how fossils work?
Specifically the odds for Glyphic Fossil essences, Perfect Fossil quality, Sanctified Fossil high level modifiers, and Tangled fossil?
golden bane
@civic sluice AFAIK, that's not dataminable, so you would have to conduct your own statistical experiments
frigid nova
All of those are known except sanctified, to my knowledge. Working on a project to reverse engineer sanctifieds atm..
golden bane
Really? They're not on poedb
civic sluice
That's what I mean, does anyone know where that info is?
golden bane
Cool stuff
civic sluice
I'm looking for info that's not in the json file
Though the MD file has some of it, thanks
frigid nova
If there's anything missing feel free to ask
civic sluice
How is the corrupt essence chance calculated? It's listed as 100 and 10. Is that weight per essence mod?
frigid nova
There's a flat chance that the fossil will force a essence mod
civic sluice
Are the essences restricted by the item ilevel?
frigid nova
They are corrupted essences, which iirc have no ilvl restriction.
civic sluice
Is the listed chance out of 100 then? So guaranteed for glyphic and 10% for tangled?
frigid nova
correct
civic sluice
Perfect fossil is an unweighted roll 15-30?
frigid nova
to my knowledge
civic sluice
Does anyone know what happens when you have the "prefixes can't be changed", "suffixes cannot be changed", and "metamod" affixes all on the same item and scour it? I'd assume that it would consume the orb and the item would be unchanged.
cosmic saffron
I know that's an expensive way of renaming items
multi+pre+suffix can't be changed, then chaos it
civic sluice
Ok, so it should consume the currency then
foggy bear
@hazy fog tried to DM you, but you blocked them DMs :3
How big/fancy does a tool have to be, for the dev to be ackknowledged as a tool dev?
hazy fog
not very
cosmic saffron
if you just post a public github you usually get the tag
hazy fog
yeah pretty much
foggy bear
Not wanna make the source public 😅
prime wasp
really?
hazy fog
sounds like it misses the publicly available requirement then 
foggy bear
Ah only if the src is public? too bad 😦 thanks though!
hazy fog
prime wasp
hazy fog
@prime wasp you're not this guy?https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/d03gw8/poesniper_v10_released_support_for_official_trade/ez655qi/
hazy fog
good because that guy was sketchy af
prime wasp
ah his is a full gui
hazy fog
Welcome to tooldev # <Why did discord remove the # from role log>, @prime wasp Author of a different PoE Sniper. not the closed source monstrosity 
https://github.com/delusionx/PoESniper
prime wasp
♥️
hazy fog
🎉
deft jolt
what does your sniper snipe
hazy fog
pens 
prime wasp
snipes souls
summer kernel
what is poe sniper?
hazy fog
worthy cape
@hazy fog The news about maps didn't push to channels that follow #old-game-news btw
golden bane
"you will be hard pressed to find anyone willing to run a binary for a closed source poe-related app" -rogueyoshi, also relevant for @foggy bear
I don't get why people do this. Like if you think your tool is useful, you would think you want to get it out to as much users as possible. And if you think your code is bad, maybe release it so someone can help you with it? There is no shame in open-sourcing code, especially if you do it as a hobby project in the service of a community, you still took the time and effort to create something
grave wren
even if the code is bad, as long as it does what people want it to do nobody will care a lot tbh
if it does not do that then it's even less of a problem
golden bane
Yeah I was more looking at it in terms of maintainability
grave wren
somehow i am still irritated how github handles MRs compared to gitlab, if gitlab recognizes commits are in the target branch they're not displayed as changes, github still does for me 😕
worthy cape
My solution is to code in write-only Rust 😛
foggy bear
@golden bane
I am doing a Discordbot that I host myself. There is no need for others to run it, except just to invite it to their server.
golden bane
@foggy bear Well, others could contribute to it, being a dev community and all. Nothing to lose here
foggy bear
Well I have a very bad past. I am by far not a good programmer, so it is not because my code is "elite"-stuff. But 3 other projects that were made by heart have been stolen and two of them got me shut down for "stealing ip" which was clearly a lie as my code was older. So I am more than cautious about sharing stuff that means a lot to me
lavish gust
First time I read of someone "stealing" open source
foggy bear
stealing in terms of someone taking my source, claiming it to be their own and telling others mine is a blatant copy of theirs
grave wren
Then you link your GitHub with proof and bam done
lavish gust
have you reported it to the site admins?
foggy bear
yup
worthy cape
Theft of projects and branding definitely happens to people, and it’s quite demotivating when it happens.
One of my mates who had a decent income supplement of donations for their GPL:d software got taken by someone in a toothless country who implemented a minimum of features and replaced the donation links with their own and scrubbed the name of the author.
Violates license, and soured the author on open source forever. Intent was good, keep it open for contributions and troubleshooting.
I’ve had music player plugins non-amicably forked and end up with support load as users don’t grok the differences.
To be honest, I don’t know if I should have my viewer open source.
There’s stuff in the GGPK that I don’t want to make it too easy for kiddos to see.
grave wren
foggy bear
https://discordapp.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=638458844770598914&scope=bot&permissions=392256
If anyone wants to see btw. what I am building
grave wren
foggy bear
Didn't want to post that as I thought it might look as I would ask for votes ^^
grave wren
googled izaro bot discord
foggy bear
oh already so nice to find ? cool
somber cedar
Hi, would it be appropriate of me to ask here about using the API for indexing builds in calc spreadsheet?
grave wren
seems to be the best place
somber cedar
uff, thats what I thought, anyway, the thing is that I can't seem to arrange the response that i get from the server, so I actually start to wonder if what i want to do is possible
So ideally what I'd like to get from this is a simple (less than 20 objects) database indexing:
-character name
-character class and ascendancy
and so on
I see that i can use api to get data about specific character, items that it has and lvling tree, but when i try to GET something to calc i get a few hundreds cells of meaningless code. I was wondering how can I make it more organised and easier to implement for everyday use
golden bane
You might want to start by sharing the code you got so far
somber cedar
okey, so thats the thing, I really am not competent enough to do this, and the thought alone seemed like an easy thing that i could actually learn on. So what I'm really asking I guess is: is it as complicated as importing data through an api and than sorting it (in the same or next stages). I would really love to figure it out somehow, and I just lack knowledge
golden bane
- Import the data in your own internal data structure
- Organize it
- Write it in a spreadsheet
frigid nova
Does anyone know if there is a github repo for https://poeskilltree.com/ ?
velvet fog
owner is Emmitt
frigid nova
yeah contacted him, thanks!
velvet fog
is there a github repo?
frigid nova
I'll leave that to @mortal bone to discuss
velvet fog
okay
magic dock
does path of building not have blight's unique's in it? I can't seem to find Triad Grip in it.
velvet fog
try this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/e4nfhj/localidentitys_path_of_building_v141526_fork/
earnest ledge
Triad's grip is in that fork, but the conversion mods are NYI
You can edit the item from:
Minions convert 25% of Physical Damage to Fire Damage
to
Minions have 25% of Physical Damage converted to Fire Damage
and change the percentage value to whatever you want, and that will work
should work in openarl's PoB as well
frigid nova
@compact isle Would it be possible to alter the clipboard text to disambiguate the following example:
Rarity: Rare
Skull Song
Thicket Bow
--------
Bow
Physical Damage: 22-66
Elemental Damage: 6-72 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 5.00%
Attacks per Second: 1.50
--------
Requirements:
Level: 64
Dex: 179
--------
Sockets: R-B-G-G-R-B
--------
Item Level: 86
--------
Adds 6 to 72 Lightning Damage
--------
Corrupted
(If im not mistaken this can both simultaneously be an item with the corrupted implicit and 0 explicits, or an item with 0 implicits and the explicit mod Sparkling)
compact isle
Most likely not without including the advanced item info
frigid nova
If the implicit mods said (implicit) after them it would disambiguate
violet path
i don't think anyone would complain if the advanced item info were also included
chrome topaz
@frigid nova have you tried a different browser? (re: copy paste on pob.party in osx)
frigid nova
@chrome topaz looking into it now 👀
rose sapphire
hey, did I miss maps list for the changed atlas? was it published?
frigid nova
@chrome topaz No luck on firefox or chrome
cmd + key just puts the key in the text box
ctrl + a does select all the text, but cant seem to get anything else to do anything reasonable
chrome topaz
what about ctrl-c?
frigid nova
i have no indication it's doing anything
chrome topaz
hm alright I'll take a look
frigid nova
much appreciated!
blazing rover
Speaking of copying, copying an item to the clipboard doesn't count as a server action right since it's local?
chrome topaz
hm openarl just merged a ton of pull requests
misty merlin
@chrome topaz poe.trade is missing Warstaff/Rune Dagger as item types.
compact isle
@frigid nova that's a good point I'll see if I can get it done
frigid nova
@compact isle Greatly appreciated, trying to write a parser which converts between clipboard and the unextended item json, I believe the mapping is bijective except for that problem, although I might uncover other ambiguation problems down the line
compact isle
@earnest radish I set it up as
# Has Shaper OR Elder
HasInfluence Shaper Elder
# Has Shaper AND Elder
HasInfluence == Shaper Elder
the old method for shaper / elder will still work as normal
@frigid nova there certainly will be differences as those two sources are from different parts of the codebase
frigid nova
good to know - ill keep my eyes peeled
@compact isle Have there been any discussions (that you're able to comment on) about adding zone name to item filters to help with boss drops?
compact isle
that's an interesting request
frigid nova
It used to be not so bad when bosses were ilvl tied, but most content has bosses which can spawn at multiple ilvls now
frigid nova
Greatly appreciated!!
violet path
@compact isle are there any plans to add more trade search functions? currently pretty weird/cumbersome to look for uniques with overlapping mods and values in the same search. A, B, C all might have a 50-70 range on life, but if I want to look for A and C with 55 life, and B with 65, it's best/simplest to have B as a different search. This balloons rapidly as more items get added. Something like "if item has x, then include y and z " or "look for (x and y) OR (y and z) OR (a and z)" might work?
compact isle
not as a priority, we'd prefer stability on simple queries over supporting large complex queries
violet path
very fair
compact isle
3.9.0 actually introduces a system that rejects queries that are deemed "too complex" to stop those auto-generated jewel searches from stalling everything
earnest radish
I feel personally attacked ;o
violet path
oh lordy
compact isle
yep we have to walk a fine line between letting you search whatever you want and being able to support the quantity as well
frigid nova
will the constraints on queries be stated publicly?
earnest radish
is there going to be guidelines for mod search tools(such as mine)?
as I can drop lower value mods reasonably easily.. I just need to know what kind of limits I should be following
compact isle
we don't officially support tools hitting APIs that we don't specify in the developer docs
we'll probably tweak the constraints when the system goes out then release the info once they're set in place
earnest radish
ah. I remember the query limit was raised in the past after a request https://xanthics.github.io/PoE_Weighted_Search/ being my tool
compact isle
yeah unfortunately backend things have been struggling with query complexity
earnest radish
well, I'll look for whatever information is released
violet path
ty for the response, nice to know this in advance
earnest radish
followup question :: is a pseudomod the same weight on the server as all of the sub mods it matches or less?
compact isle
pseudo mods are generated at index-time so less
but they're not always accurate >.>
earnest radish
As the reason my tool existed in the first place is i got tired of searching for (example) % phys, phys with shield, phys iwht axe, one hand phys, damage, and then doing the same for attack speed, crit, etc
compact isle
ideally we'd just have better pseudo mods for that
earnest radish
Okay. Well as a first step I'll split all the mods in to basetypes, so that someone using my site has to choose there first. And see how that plays with the limit.
carmine merlin
anyone have an idea on distance numbers which effect this node?
violet path
i think its the same as farshot
golden bane
Makes sense, so it would be 70 units for maximum damage increase
35 and 70 units seem to be the breakpoints for this kind of mod
dull laurel
so i had this idea ... since so many tools are working with the client.txt file, would it make sense to have some kind of local message server that automatically parses it into nice messages and you can subscribe to them? or is that overkill? 😕
simple ravine
hehehe...
grave wren
imo overkill
grave wren
you want to kiss him 
simple ravine
one more try 🙂
grave wren
now i'm under pressure
dull laurel
oO
simple ravine
god I feel old now
dull laurel
why?
grave wren
i'm just memeing at this point :p
mortal bone
keep it simple stupid
simple ravine
or keep it stupid simple, but yeah
dull laurel
keep it simple, stupid. 😉
mortal bone
yeah
simple ravine
yagni and all that
grave wren
the service just needs to speak graphql, odata, plain rest and rpc and you're golden
simple ravine
and implement zero mq
dull laurel
yeah that is what i'm currently researching
simple ravine
and amqp
grave wren
we don't talk about soap here
simple ravine
gRPC, protobufs
mortal bone
mediator!
grave wren
what about grib format
simple ravine
dull laurel
still looking for an appropriate pub/sub bus
grave wren
for the geology lads
mortal bone
to be fair, signalr is pretty alright
simple ravine
why choose one, when you can implement all of them?
dull laurel
there is problably an npm package for that
simple ravine
pops popcorn...
dull laurel
npm i allthebuses
simple ravine
should probably have a filter on the bus subscriptions too
dull laurel
what kind of filter?=
simple ravine
so should likely implement some kind of query language, like SQL or something similar
lets say u only want to receive whispers
or you only want to receive messages about maps and people entering, leaving areas
u dont want all the other garbage
dull laurel
yeah, you got topics for that
simple ravine
fitler it! simple!
dull laurel
not a single subscribe
simple ravine
what if u only want to receive whispers from your wife
dull laurel
ignore
dull laurel
ah so a sublevel of topic
simple ravine
yes, yes!
dull laurel
great! 😄
dull laurel
and it has to run as a background windows service
grave wren
no windows
dull laurel
btw i noticed that there is nowhere mentioned your username in the client.txt
grave wren
only bsd
simple ravine
should use Erlang and cross-compile
dull laurel
dotnetcorethreedotoh
simple ravine
dotnetfivealphaisout
dull laurel
whereisfour?
simple ravine
umissedthememo?
dull laurel
imissmemory
simple ravine
whatversionisdotnetframework?
dull laurel
ah. 6 som,ethingm aybe
simple ravine
huh
simple ravine
.NET Core + .NET Framework => .NET
no more core or fx
and it's then called .NET 5
aimed to release in 2020, then .net 6 in 2021, 7 in 2022 etc
dull laurel
really? or still joking?
simple ravine
no joke.
dull laurel
interesting, but guess makes sense. confusing for developers
simple ravine
i mean, they havent even figured out eol for .net fx yet, so it's gonna be around for at least 5 more years
same with .net core 3.1 (which will be LTS)
grave wren
had the pleasure of checking out the "backend" of a recent cs student. The joy of seeing an express server app that has a single route that directly reroutes to one single mysql instance hosted remotely
puked only a little
dull laurel
how many routes do you need? 😄
dull laurel
easy. no injection possible.
simple ravine
wait...
grave wren
who needs more than api/data?sql=x
grave wren
doubt he knows about stored procedures
dull laurel
sql=storedprocedurename? 🙂 that would be fun too
grave wren
that'd be stuff of my nightmares
just like the thing i've seen at work today, importer that should set a flag on a related event on success
turns out the flag is set if it fails too
who needs transactions either way
simple ravine
Well, shouldn't december be an easy month?
just send them to adventofcode.com and call it a day
grave wren
sometimes i wonder how our customers third party system even works
simple ravine
advent calendar for our kind
simple ravine
dull laurel
that sounds like a german thing.
grave wren
mortal bone
@simple ravine don't forget mono and xamarin! they are in .net 5 as well
simple ravine
mono is living its own life no?
mortal bone
No, the idea was to have one .NET Runtime across all platforms
dull laurel
okay, so how to get started with dotnet?
simple ravine
in general?
mortal bone
I can look around. I thought they were going to be merging core and mono
simple ravine
Emmitt, has the mono folks said they're bending over for .net 5?
mortal bone
Visual Studio 2019 Community Edition 16.4 - Use .NET Core 3.1 because it is LTS
dull laurel
weird, there is no workload in visual studio 19 that directly works with dotnetcore3 (is there a shortname for this?)
simple ravine
you will get frustrated with VS Code and C# unless you're a ninja imo
grave wren
what is a ninja
dull laurel
you can't see him
simple ravine
simple ravine
ah yes
mortal bone
There is .NET Core cross-platform development and .NET desktop development workloads
you will need them both
dull laurel
looks like fun (should have just stuck with javascript :-D)
mortal bone
So, it appears that Mono will stick around, but their main focus will be to pull in as many .net core subsystems as possible
The compilers will end up merging though
grave wren
did they dump the godawful mono ide
mortal bone
you mean visual studio for mac? lol
grave wren
that's an insult to visual studio
mortal bone
that shit is run on mono
simple ravine
yeah, if you're a vs hater you're likely a jetbrains fanboi
dull laurel
so back after a forced reboot from vss update
grave wren
not sure about early but before vscode plugins for unity happened
and i dreaded it so much
even installed win on my macbook just to use vs
mortal bone
So, I switched to a job that mainly does Java, and I have to use JetBrains. I can't stand it tbh
although, it is a jetbrains from like 4 years ago
simple ravine
tried Jetbrains Rider?
mortal bone
We can't
simple ravine
well I mean personally or something
grave wren
i have 0 issues with intellij
mortal bone
It is in the Insurance sector, and they use Guidewrite (which means the proprietary language gosu)
grave wren
(that's a lie, i dread every time it indexes shit)
mortal bone
gosu is like c# but in java lol
grave wren
but why
mortal bone
I have been here a month and I want to switch jobs lol
grave wren
grave wren
we're using the normal intellij version and i really cant complain about most things
simple ravine
the ultimate satan daddy is SAP
dull laurel
jetbrains still much better than eclipse 🙂
mortal bone
I can't disagree with that
grave wren
hey i even like pycharm for writing python
simple ravine
i'm just in a cozy place with pure visual studio
mortal bone
I just don't like Java at all tbh
grave wren
just another language tbh
mortal bone
just feels like I am doing shitty c#
simple ravine
but i will confess, i haven't written any code professionally for months
grave wren
doesnt sound like improvement to some of us :>
simple ravine
nah, i just talk and draw boxes and lines
mortal bone
Product Manager? lol
dull laurel
powerpoint grand master
grave wren
i lack the experience to want to do something like that
mortal bone
just read some more haha
grave wren
then again we dont have one in the current project so it is basically like being a mini architect
mortal bone
Clean Architecture by Robert C. Martin
simple ravine
Domain Driven Design, Eric Evans & Vaughn Vernon
Vertical Slice Architecture, Jimmy Bogard > Uncle Bob imo
Event Sourcing, Greg Young
anything Martin Fowler says
grave wren
reading is good but not sure if its good enough without having dealt with those things irl then
simple ravine
I would not recommend doing architecture, unless 10 years of professional developer experience
mortal bone
That is why you do personal projects, or suggest ways to do what you are currently doing better
simple ravine
Because yes, there are many things you only learn by freebasing into a cliff
mortal bone
There are a lot of pieces of decent architecture that can be implemented over time
simple ravine
yeah, but you should have practical experience doing it
grave wren
agreed, still i think you need the real world experience
simple ravine
I met a few 'architects' who learned the buzzwords, and got the gig
mortal bone
Yeah, 100%
simple ravine
understood the overall concepts etc, but oh lord...
grave wren
hey i have a foundation level cert for architecting
simple ravine
the best kind, are those in a customer position
grave wren
multiple choice test very hard
mortal bone
I also have known a few architects that end up bending to the will of upper management lol
simple ravine
we just 'fired' one of our customers, because of several things, but one reason was just that the architect had very little clue, and was 'up in the blue' about things.
first and foremost, they wanted to go from monolithic on-premise to microservices in the cloud
what do they pick?
kubernetes of course
worthy cape
☁️ 🗡️
simple ravine
AKS specifically in this case.
grave wren
i personally know a guy who became software architect who can't and did not ever write codes besides testing stuff
:<
worthy cape
waves a tiny GDPR flag
simple ravine
lol what?
dull laurel
(joking actually, because I work with those kind of people that did exactly that)
simple ravine
that's the worst idea i've heard today
dull laurel
they build everything themselves in azure
simple ravine
hahah
mortal bone
lol build vms....
worthy cape
Are you in my cloud? 😄
grave wren
but when will they build their own build tools
dull laurel
no app insights, instead their own logging cluster. no aks, instead own kubernetes cluters
mortal bone
what is docker?
simple ravine
wtf is wrong with people
dull laurel
they built their own tools for rights management in azure
mortal bone
wow
grave wren
but... why
mortal bone
wtf
dull laurel
because "security"
grave wren
ah yes
mortal bone
active directory doesn't cut it
dull laurel
because you can't just give stupid developer a resource group. he has to request it via some hand written go webportal
mortal bone
integration with your current windows environments
@grave wren yep, I had many classes where they were like "People way smarter than you are working on this problem, use their solutions"
like when people want to build their own custom identity server...
dull laurel
you mean like building your own AIM (access / identity management) solution?
mortal bone
yep
dull laurel
have been trying to tell them to use the azure PaaServices, but they don't want to
mortal bone
at my last place, upper management was very against put anything in "The Cloud"
grave wren
hey we have an inhouse download manager that broke like at least once for the lat 10 days
mortal bone
it is scary
grave wren
instead of just using any of the foss solutions available
dull laurel
like webbrowser download manager like in the early days of the internet?
mortal bone
what is an ftp
dull laurel
ftp is not secure
grave wren
not secure
grave wren
i mean even if you need a portal
there's tons of readily available things you just host
mortal bone
At my last place we used Cerberus
dull laurel
speaking of the missing s. my favorite quote is "the s in iot is for security"
grave wren
dull laurel
😄
earnest radish
My architecture is 2 rasberry pis and docker containers on a synology nas ;o
mortal bone
"micro-services"
earnest radish
and with the previous conversation.. intellij(specifically pycharms) was great.. up until somewhere in v2 where their load time went from nearly instant to 30 seconds
actually have 5 $$
mortal bone
I think that is because indexing lol
grave wren
hm my laptop at work is pretty shit and it doesnt load that long tbh
and our project is huge
mortal bone
indexing on the project I have is like 60 seconds
simple ravine
had to put kids to bed
grave wren
i can get a tea if it reindexes
simple ravine
dont get me started about security oh lord
grave wren
which security
simple ravine
1990 called and wanted their layered security back
dull laurel
dude you cant have a proper laptop! that is too expensive! we'd rather save the money and make you work slower
grave wren
oh its a fine laptop
earnest radish
i was reading an older review of telegram vs signal
grave wren
if only lenovo didnt fuck up
mortal bone
half my degree was in security, and I never want to be in that industry nor write my own shit
earnest radish
and that was when i learned that telegram had rolled their own (at the time)
grave wren
t480 under linux being limited to 15w instead of 51w
dull laurel
@simple ravine is that serious or a joke with the layered security? because I heard, that is the current standard
simple ravine
that is no joke
grave wren
worthy cape
I implemented a crypto algorithm from reference code and the rather icky submission PDF recently.
simple ravine
with layered security, i don't mean throw out all ur firewalls and burn ur bras
worthy cape
5/7 would not recommend
mortal bone
Encryption isn't too bad
mortal bone
"accidentally"
grave wren
for the people not wanting to dl the pdf
mortal bone
you mean straight in your source?
simple ravine
my T570 is working just fine tho
mortal bone
hell yeah
worthy cape
Turns out that if all your subkeys are zeroes, the strength of the crypto weakens a wee bit.
dull laurel
@simple ravine what do you mean then? for example I would rather have proper server to server auth in micrso service landscape rather than lower layer security like network security keys and firewalls.
grave wren
do you use windows? then the issue with thermals don't bother you at all anyway
mortal bone
TLS 1.2 baby
simple ravine
use Prometheus with AKS
dull laurel
@simple ravine that does not work if you built your own kubernetes clusters 🙂
simple ravine
I have people who use linux natively at work with the same model, no issues what I've heard
dull laurel
damn i need some emoji to show my mental state
grave wren
i mean its confirmed by lenovo
dull laurel
ah thanks. exactly
so yeah, my suggestion was, use PaaS, use MIS, have proper rights and access management using the AD
simple ravine
maybe my colleague is a lazy ass who don't regonize he's only using a fraction of his computer's potential 🤔
grave wren
people at my work didnt notice either
simple ravine
AD, KeyVault / HSM... BYOK if u're paranoid
earnest radish
what kind of madmen don't benchmark all their pcs? /s
grave wren
but you can clearly see it when your laptop throttles without any workload
worthy cape
I'm quite resembling the fine-dog right now. Trying to interface my GGPK library with Windows Projected File System.
simple ravine
9-5 developers
grave wren
6:30-15:00 lad
dull laurel
8 hours? nah. 7 hours
simple ravine
that is an ungodly hour to start working
worthy cape
Got two choices - either expose my library into C or C++, or bind ProjectedFS into Rust.
mortal bone
7-4
grave wren
not if you're a morning person
deft jolt
6am ohgod
dull laurel
@worthy cape still working on the rust library to parse ggpk files?
grave wren
official hours start at 8 here
earnest radish
eh-meh
grave wren
or 9?
worthy cape
@dull laurel Sure am.
mortal bone
I used to do 6am lol sucked
grave wren
dont remember
grave wren
but the 8h workday
dull laurel
come late, go early. my work advice
dull laurel
at least you have a meeting about it
simple ravine
today my boss gave me cred for the good work im doing.
mortal bone
Yeah, you just have to work at a place that doesn't care about your ass in your seat
simple ravine
so i gues i'll just continue with this
perhaps on friday i'll just show up for lunch, and have him pay for it
dull laurel
@simple ravine the trick is to just be good enough, so they don't notice you are only working half the time
simple ravine
might just get a raise then
mortal bone
most places around here have the guise of being flexible
they still want you at work 40hours or more
earnest radish
just need to figure out how to automate your work and set up a bunch of cron jobs
earnest radish
try being a video game dev
simple ravine
nevr.
earnest radish
why i'm not a "professional coder"
worthy cape
@simple ravine Getting any good deals on days off for the holidays this year?
grave wren
nope ty
mortal bone
😭
grave wren
if i will do vgs i'll do it on my own
mortal bone
damn
dull laurel
i can recommend big companies
deft jolt
are game devs really that underpaid or is it mostly just a rumor
earnest radish
my first job out of my first degree(digipen) was game dev.. 60 hour crunch weeks from when you were hired until you were "fired" (layed off without benefits)
dull laurel
work sucks, but you get paid gold and working hours are highly regulated
mortal bone
Most dev jobs are underpaid and overworked
simple ravine
@worthy cape yeah, i think im using 4-5 days for 20th of dec to 7th of jan
worthy cape
Sounds about right, I'd have to spend that many days too.
I should probably apply for vacation, I guess 🙂
earnest radish
wish i had job shadowed for a while before going down that path.. burned me out hard.. ended up quitting, and after I was done being a nomad, working physical security at an empty brewery for 10 years
deft jolt
hells ye get those vacation days
worthy cape
We figured out that we'd have some bloke in town in case anything blew up, but no-one actually working.
earnest radish
use them if you have them :p
simple ravine
zao, u're devops for science stuff right?
earnest radish
I'm currently debating an even worse "career" choice though that would be even more overworked with less pay
deft jolt
study vacation days are nice
worthy cape
Yup, sysape for academic HPC.
deft jolt
get a month off then it resets after new year and you get another month off
hm you don't have that faust?
grave wren
never heard of that
earnest radish
my terrible idea, with the goal of making me just hate gaming in general, is "patreon guided community tool dev". Should pay fairly about 200 years after I die ;o
grave wren
i should take 1 ct per bot parse
deft jolt
well it's 3 weeks to be precise
grave wren
aw discord search borked
earnest radish
be a part time teacher.. then you can get 21ish weeks of vacation and the constant questioning of if you are going to get replaced by someone with 2 phds and a masters next teaching year
deft jolt
you get 20 vacation days per year during studies
grave wren
hm i just get 30 a year so sounded a bit weird
dull laurel
community tool dev probably pays, but you need a bigger community than the couple hundred thousane poe players
deft jolt
plus the regular vacation days of course
simple ravine
the way I did it was... take a 5 point summer course (not sure how many points that is today, was before they remade it), and do all the stuff in a weekend
grave wren
just say you're making a skyrim mmo
simple ravine
and u have all summer
worthy cape
I'm not getting the max amount of days until I hit 40 years of age.
dull laurel
that is weird too
worthy cape
"just" 31 now, 35 at the max.
dull laurel
this was banned in germany because it is unfair for younger people
deft jolt
i can see why jesus
mortal bone
Yeah, aged based is weird, but in the US PTO typically increases the longer you are with a company
I would take aged based over that any day
takes 5-7 years most places to gain additional time off, so if you switch jobs you kind of get boned
grave wren
i am always negatively amazed by your sick days system btw
earnest radish
us has all kinds of peer pressure from dead people that makes worker benefits rather meh
although at least dev culture is better than japan.. where "death march" is apparently a thing to be proud of?
mortal bone
I actually have sick leave at my current company. At the last company, I had to use vacation time for sick leave
dull laurel
mh it is actually hard in c# to get a stream of file change events
simple ravine
no it's not
mortal bone
erm
dull laurel
so I tried this file system watcher, but it doesn't trigger a change event every time the client.txt is written too by PoE
mortal bone
do you have the correct notify filter?
simple ravine
yeah wrong usecase
mortal bone
and the event handlers to go with it?
dull laurel
totally copied the example from the MS docs. but I guess @simple ravine is right, it is not intended for that
simple ravine
hold my beer, i have something
dull laurel
low level programming 😦 what I'd like to have is an api that gives me text chunk events as a streaming api for a file
mortal bone
I would assume they have an async enumerable file stream somewhere
simple ravine
boy, do i have the right thing for u
dull laurel
make me more hyped pls
simple ravine
yes, sifting through all the things
mortal bone
It is like a loading screen lol
dull laurel
yeah but you also need the events for new data being written to the file without polling
frigid nova
a lot of tech places in the US have switched their vacation/sick day system up, at least in the bay @mortal bone
mortal bone
Ah, I am in Oregon, and not in Portland
mortal bone
Just most of the job postings I end up applying for have some fucked vacation/sick leave system
if they aren't some sort of state job
dull laurel
that is so weird in the US. job law. like you can get fired without any notice period. and your minimum vacation days are low or non existent
earnest radish
same here (washington, not seattle)
dull laurel
in germany its 20 days at least by law, though most jobs I have seen give 30 typically, so 6 work weeks
tiny cargo
and if you are sick while on vacation and prove it, the days count as sick and not vacation days
mortal bone
"At Will Employment" means you or your employer can break contract, but your employer still has to have a valid reason
earnest radish
my "favorite" thing about at will is the peer pressure to give 2 weeks.. but then most jobs end up immediately firing you
grave wren
gpu defective, please dispose of it in germany i'll send you the address
dull laurel
@simple ravine you found what i was looking for? eh, you were looking for
mortal bone
2 weeks (14 days) is pretty common when leaving a company, but the company typically only gives you that day
simple ravine
i found multiple versions
trying to find the one that was functioning well
by opening up poe
dull laurel
ah, smooth
I really thought there should be some windows api that triggers an event when something is written to a file / buffer / cache
simple ravine
gimme a few, gonna resolve this
frigid nova
@mortal bone Oh interesting - I think all of the places I interviewed for have a "unlimited vacation day" system, which is quite the double edged sword
simple ravine
there are some super low level things, but not worth it
dull laurel
yeah was more thinking of a high level api
simple ravine
yeah, that's kinda low level
earnest radish
I don't code with windows file functions, so I don't know how usable that is
dull laurel
and polling is evil
grave wren
just have faith
simple ravine
just need to fix my drivers
grave wren
did you try binary prayers to the machine god
simple ravine
praying to my self?
weird, my nvidia drivers i had installed had a higher version number than the latest available for download
earnest radish
beta?
simple ravine
nah, geforce experience normally takes care of my downloads
strangely enough i think nvidia uses rollback instead of just roll-forward if something goes south?
earnest radish
i seem ato recall they just pull drivers
no idea with geforce experience though
started downloading -> unzipping ->devices -> find drivers(point to folder)
when they started bundling telemetry garbage
simple ravine
cant really be bothered tbh
dull laurel
ReadDirectoryChangesW this seems to be the function, at least that is was nodejs uses 😄
earnest radish
i mean the correct thing at that point zen is to write a powershell script to do it for you.. right? Looks like there are windows functions to allow it
grave wren
Pure Powershell poe Message broker when
simple ravine
The correct thing is to do what you think is the appropriate thing for you 🙂
for me, I can't really be bothered that much about telemetry
dull laurel
powershell 5 6 core? 🙂
simple ravine
Powershell 6 is cross-plat
PSCore
ok I think I found the one
breaking it out into a console app or something from the whole thing
dull laurel
nice, because I started to wonder why nodejs is so weird
earnest radish
looking in to the telemetry further, looks like my pihole dns already blocks all their domains
dull laurel
it really seems impossible to watch write events for a file.
dull laurel
hzaha mine is called poelogthingy 😄
cedar cove
this might be a dumb question but i gotta ask anyway, u see those streamers having a hud overlay around their pots health bar and such, is there a way to get that without using stream services and not going against ToS
dull laurel
@simple ravine care to share the code? is it using polling?
earnest radish
@cedar cove clickthrough ahk images
#NoEnv ; Recommended for performance and compatibility with future AutoHotkey releases.
;#Warn ; Enable warnings to assist with detecting common errors.
SendMode Input ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir% ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.
#SingleInstance force
; For moving the upper left corner of the image
overlay_x := 0
overlay_y := 0
; Image file should be in the same directory as the ahk file
my_picturefile = Po-E-Reference-Sheet-Background1.png
; modify these so that they match the source image resolution or your monitor(if smaller). This will scale the image.
width := 1024
height := 768
overlay_color = 000000
Gui, Color, %overlay_color%
Gui, 1:Margin , 0, 0
Gui, Add, Picture, % "w" width " h" height, %my_picturefile%
Gui +lastFound +AlwaysOnTop +ToolWindow -Border -Caption +E0x20 ; E0x20 is clickthrough
;WinSet, TransColor, %overlay_color% 255 ; for a see-through background
Gui, Show, % "x" overlay_x " y" overlay_y " w" width " h" height " NoActivate", Image Holder
show := 1
return
; toggle the visiblity of the Gui
NumpadDiv::
{
if (show == 1) {
show := 0
Gui, Hide
} else {
show := 1
Gui, Show
}
return
}
@earnest radish thanks 😄 ill look into that 😄
Time to study 😛 thanks bud, kinda out of my league though, so study hat on 😄
dull laurel
@simple ravine nice. shouldn't be too much for a nopaste?
simple ravine
dull laurel
it says you are a pro
simple ravine
don't believe them
dull laurel
wow, 25ms sleep only? isn't that too much pressure on the system?
well okay, 40 calls per second, not really much, but still
simple ravine
lol
worthy cape
@cedar cove While you can have windows covering the game in windowed mode, it's going to impact perf and may not get you the clickthrough functionality you'd expect. Composition in post is pretty much the only (sane) way.
simple ravine
zao I made a WPF app that has transparency overlaying PoE, works well
havent tried clickthrough though
cedar cove
@simple ravine if it can work with hud overlay for status bar it would be fantastic 😄
worthy cape
@simple ravine Depending on moon phase and technology, obscuring the window in any way may have perf hits.
cedar cove
@worthy cape kinda figured as much:D thats the reason i went here to the experts 😄
simple ravine
of course it can have perf hits, but is it enough to warrant the discussion? unlikely
worthy cape
Windows has some icky rules about input capturing and layered windows, but is mostly toward transparent windows not being able to grab input.
cedar cove
would be a nice mtx function though
simple ravine
it's not java
worthy cape
@simple ravine I mention it explicitly because it CAN have enough of an impact.
cedar cove
@worthy cape if it is too impactful its easy to deal with 😄 close the app 😛
simple ravine
oh well, im not invested enough to argue about it
worthy cape
"can" as in I've lived it all.
Take that lab compass program as example, I've had configurations where having it visible anywhere near the primary screen tanked performance and caused a ton of judder.
May you luck into a combination of compositor, game bar, drivers, vsync/gsync/freesync, etc. that works? Yay, good for you.
All I'm saying, anything remotely overlapping the game has a significant risk of impacting it.
dull laurel
@simple ravine nice. now i just have to understand your code. 🙂
worthy cape
And no, my computer is not a potato.
dull laurel
wow client.txt even contains skill allocations 🙂
cedar cove
@worthy cape thought labcompas would be banable
worthy cape
Whichever one that you load a layout JSON into and which displays the layout in a nice separate window, just saying which room you're in.
Not whatever haxballs that lab runners use to map room identifiers to room exits.
cedar cove
so the lab compas from poelab com is the legal kind?
worthy cape
The former does nothing naughty, to my knowledge.
cedar cove
Cool 🙂
simple ravine
Hmm, Discord and LGHUB are using 100% of a single thread each now for some reason
dafuk is happening
dull laurel
you mean single core?
simple ravine
no, thread.
CPUs are hyper-threaded nowadays
I'm on a i7-7700K at 4.5 Ghz per core, 8 threads.
dull laurel
ha, important things first. c# editor settings, so it doesn't do this horrible brackets on new line thing 😄
simple ravine
brackets in c# should be on new lines.
period.
get that javascript nonsense out of your body
dull laurel
my code style disagrees 🙂
i come from the python land, there should be no brackets in code
simple ravine
smh
dull laurel
so much nicer now the code you shared 🙂
simple ravine
my eyes
dull laurel
does it burn? 🙂
dull laurel
outsourcing to india?
simple ravine
We're a multinational enterprise
dull laurel
I heard of such things.
but can't be the one I work for, because you are using modern outlook 😄
simple ravine
that's Office 365 (web client)
dull laurel
yeah, we are stuck with much much older web client
simple ravine
Not everything is perfect though, some people haven't learned the wae
Still trying to book Skype (for Business) meetings instead of Teams meetings.
And we have on-premise Lync servers, that has its... issues.
dull laurel
also still waiting for that. big enterprises move so slow 😦
simple ravine
Yeah, we're 200,000 people.
dull laurel
300k here.
simple ravine
I guess somewhere between there's the threshold
dull laurel
@simple ravine i understood your code now. refactored it into many many tiny functions 🙂 and tried to learn a thing or two about C# and async. Yield is next on list.
simple ravine
If I had some time, I would likely refactor that into an IAsyncEnumerable, perhaps later this week
refactoring into too small functions might impede performance somewhat.. need to find the balance
dull laurel
Ah, thanks. I guess that is what I was looking for. I want the watcher to emit each line separately and then I can have another class doing the parsing
mortal bone
Yeah, IAsyncEnurmerable would be nice. I am surprised that someone hasn't made a package like that yet
dull laurel
For what? reading the client.txt file?
mortal bone
Na, watching files
dull laurel
Ah, well. We could be the first
mortal bone
tail does it lol
dull laurel
tail -f 😉
mortal bone
notepad++ has a file watch feature as well
dull laurel
yeah, but a standard class/lib for c# was nowhere to be found
dull laurel
ha, it works with IAsyncEnumerable
public async IAsyncEnumerable<string> WatchAsync() {
while (true) {
if (FileHasNewContent) {
var content = await ReadNewContentAsLines();
foreach (var line in content) {
yield return line;
};
}
await Task.Delay(100);
}
}
@carmine merlin Some of the files in your fork seem to be encoded as windows-1252. Please convert to UTF-8, it's causing huge diffs
dull laurel
Is there no option in github to have push policies?
golden bane
For example:
simple ravine
@dull laurel check git repo, i added IAsyncEnynerable as well
dull laurel
@simple ravine i only had to remove your readonlyspan because that doesn't work in async methods
dull laurel
Ah I see, you want to optimize for performance already
simple ravine
That's my night-time hobby
dull laurel
Very nice.
simple ravine
Not to sound 'cocky', but other things are quite trivial, unless there are domain-specific challenges
It's either optimization or trying new things
dull laurel
well you can optimize my code later 😉
simple ravine
Could also try System.Threading.Channels
dull laurel
Next step is parsing those chat messages into objects
simple ravine
I have a thing for that too 😄
but it's incomplete, and hey, u have to do something
dull laurel
also optimized for speed so not using regex?
simple ravine
what would be the fun in having regex and a bunch of heap allocations?
dull laurel
actually it should be a messageparserfactorysomethingsomething
simple ravine
ok pushed
dull laurel
that c# switch is looking cool. much nicer than those old case statements
btw have you figured out what does incrementing numbers are? I first thought it were nanoseconds, but they just increment over and over
simple ravine
no, they are resetting at seemingly random places too
dull laurel
seems to be a "unique" id for all the messages created in the client. ah okay, it really jumps when the logfile is reopened.
simple ravine
changed switch statement to switch expression in EntryParser.cs
looks a bit fancier
simple ravine
@dull laurel moar switch expressions just pushed
unborn crown
I've tried to get LocalID's PoB fork working, no luck changing manifest.xml, did a full reinstall, reverted to an older pob version, nothing works
golden bane
Are you sure you changed the manifest file correctly?
Maybe you made an error, maybe you don't have the permissions to save it, maybe you have multiple installations of PoB?
golden bane
Are you in dev mode?
unborn crown
no
got it
he says change the manifest in programdata
i changed it in the actual folder
vavoom
silk vigil
Does anyone know if there are any C# based gear / mod / stash parsing apis?
dull laurel
@simple ravine looks less readable now 😄
carmine merlin
is there an easy way to convert all non UTF-8 encoded files into UTF-8?
carmine merlin
@golden bane ended up doing it manually, somehow the encoding changed in my 1.4.152.1 update
dull laurel
there was a command line tool ... but best if you configure your editor or use a .editorconfig in your project
are you using visual studio for pob development?
civic sluice
If anyone is interested in a C# crafting library you can check out https://github.com/DanielWieder/PoeCraftLib.
dull laurel
would it make sense to create a github org for all poe related tools? or is that a mess when it comes to access management?
civic sluice
I had created a tool a while back which I never ended up finishing. I decided to update the library and break it out into it's own C# code base.
Here are some of the highlights/reasons why you might want to use it.
- Supports most forms of currency including fossils, essences, and master crafting.
- Define a custom crafting process
- Create conditional filters similar to PoE trade
- Use those to do conditional operations and manage flow control with "While" and "If" structures
- Evaluate generated items using those filters to see how much currency you could make and how different ways to craft compare against each other
- Provides metadata about your planned crafting process including information about which steps will be unable to execute (due to item rarity/affix count restrictions) and which steps have a chance of being unable to execute
- Receive metadata about your executed crafting process including currency spent, operations attempted, operations succeeded
- Generates about 1 million affixes per minute
worthy cape
@dull laurel you’re probably thinking of iconv for encodings
worthy cape
As for organizing projects, keeping the wiki updated might be good 🙂
My sources are mostly on gitlab anyway thanks to having a sane private project policy and not being bitbucket.
Haven’t had that many organizations on Github but it sounds like it could cause a fair bit of drama
dull laurel
What is bad about bitbucket? 😉
worthy cape
Apart from the thing where they out of the blue announced last year that they’re going to delete all Mercurial repositories and projects by June 2020?
With no migration path and no declared archival process for all unmaintained projects the world depends on?
And no tooling to even convert to Git internally on the host?
Not much 😄
dull laurel
Oh, didn't know that. But I guess mercurial has lost the war vs git, which I personally find horrible. And so it is just not affordable to support it any more
worthy cape
I can understand their wish to get rid of it from their infra. I can’t understand the disregard and ignorance about the way they do it.
Either they do not understand the importance of keeping projects not in development reachable, or even worse they don’t consider it a problem to obliterate them.
I’ve already run into a bunch of scientific software at work that will not be buildable come June due to them or a dependency being hosted on BB.
I can understand it fully if they don't want to support it for CI and other active development, but it's just pure irresponsible to destroy legacy.
Their announcement was all about pipelines and CI and bullshit, and didn't even consider the fact that there might be stable and boring software just existing.
Of course, communication broke down in the thread before anyone could ask the actually important questions, as people from the Internet appeared.
This is way worse than Google Code shutting down, at least they shuttered everything and left read-only views forever.
End of rant, but TL;DR - fuck Bitbucket forever.
dull laurel
You can continue with the next rant. Why do people still use Dart? I thought that thing died...
worthy cape
I have to Bing™️ that whenever I see the name. People probably try to use it because they think that Google makes good things, and being exposed to JS does things to people.
I've got a bit of a problem... the intended name for my crate is taken and I should probably rename.
Had it as poe which is taken by some editor. Other PoE related crates are ezomyte.
carmine merlin
@dull laurel just using notepad++ at the moment for PoB stuff, is there an advantage of using something like visual studio over notepad++?
dull laurel
you are developing C# with notepad++? 🤨
@worthy cape crates have no namespaces? like @foo/bar?
quick plinth
dull laurel
sorry foo, I tried to escape that highlight, but it didn't work
worthy cape
@dull laurel The public registry has a first-come-first-serve with a flat namespace.
One can of course point out dependencies in arbitrary git repos if you're into that, but the cargo infrastructure uses crates.io by default.
dull laurel
that is unfortunate. would have thought they learned from the issues npm had
worthy cape
There's ongoing discussion on how to deal with namesquatting too, great fun.
Things mostly work because people are not dicks.
(exotic concept online, I hear)
dull laurel
Yeah, but learning from others (aka good practice) also helps 😄
carmine merlin
PoB is all in lua and some txt files
worthy cape
I hope the next league is meh so I can get coding 🙂
dull laurel
An IDE or at least a code editor helps preventing things like the encoding. For example using a .editorconfig file.
Interesting, never looked at the PoB code. What part is C# then? Only the main window?
carmine merlin
Thats why I started working on updating PoB this league
worthy cape
The graphics platform is closed source binary.
Small enough that the web PoB people have reimplemented it, IIRC.
dull laurel
Uh what? why?
worthy cape
Long discussion - https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/issues/28
It's a bit of a bummer as PoB can't easily be made DPI aware by a third party.
dull laurel
I still have this idea of a PoB that runs in the browser. And I mean as a real webapp, not webassembly C# + lua
@simple ravine https://github.com/zeromq/netmq this okay? 😉
mortal bone
with https://github.com/PoESkillTree/PoESkillTree.Engine we would be super close to just sticking a better front end framework on (like blazor or something)
The computation work is done, but the UI needs some work to full utilize it