Is that actually doable? I'd imagine it would take ages even if I just wanted to do it from Legion start ?
#tooldev-general
eager rivet
rapid pagoda
Depends on your network and patience 😃
simple ravine
Hehe, don't do it if you have a metered internet connection
eager rivet
Yeah I'd do it with a VPS if I decided to. I am just thinking about how I would go if I wanted to have the complete public stash dumps for every day and serve them for devs to use, including myself 😄
simple ravine
hundreds of GB
eager rivet
Really? I'd think it would be less than couple of GBs if I filtered just for the temp league and highly compressed
It could also be processed to a CSV kind of format before compression to dramatically reduce JSON bloat of having the field names for every value
simple ravine
what I mean is the JSON itself is going to be hundreds of GB, bear in mind all the modifier information you'd want to keep
eager rivet
Yeah a format like price,item_base,modifiers... should be sufficient I think
simple ravine
socket groups, quality, isCorrupted, veiled mods, frameType, owner, id, stash id, league
eager rivet
Yeah definitely. I considered those in the modifiers category 😄 I am not sure if the seller information is important for price history reasons though
simple ravine
you will likely want to keep it to update the amount of each thing
violet path
would be interesting to see what top sellers are selling throughout a league, could be pretty useful
eager rivet
Yes, makes sense
simple ravine
because the API will not tell you how much of something that has been removed, you will have to do delta checks yourself
without count, it's pointless to calculate price
@eager rivet Also bear in mind unique ids are changed sometimes.
a) When they change owner
b) if you chaos-roll them, etc IIRC
c) for stacks of currency, when u stack/unstack stuff they change ids
eager rivet
Thanks, Ill look into it
somber flax
I had wanted to also make a thing that could track an item - i.e. who had owned it etc.. but it's practically impossible with the changing id's and you can't if it's been sold/traded unless it's listed publically at some point.
simple ravine
@chrome topaz poe.trade lagging severely again
radiant hawk
@somber flax that may be intentional, that would be a bit... snoopy
bright crater
does anyone use this tool https://github.com/viktorgullmark/exilence
violet path
it's popular, yeah
bright crater
is that the right repo @violet path ?
violet path
@bright crater yes
golden bane
I find it really useful for group play with friends as well as pricing
bright crater
why do they require a active session ?
golden bane
To share character/inventory information with your group
bright crater
wouldnt they be able to log into my account with my session id?
golden bane
You do not submit your session id anywhere lol
That's the whole point of the application
bright crater
does the application do anything weird to my account with my session id?
golden bane
Everyone in a party uses this app to get their character from their session id, then the info gets shared over exilence
simple ravine
it does transmit stuff to his server though, and gets stored there
golden bane
Yeah, but not the session id
simple ravine
so you do share some things, but not the session itself
golden bane
only what the session id gets you
bright crater
so they cant take the session id and go log into my account?
golden bane
No, you can audit the code yourself if you don't trust me
bright crater
i dont know how to thats why im asking....
golden bane
It's open source?
simple ravine
I think what he's saying is he doesn't know how
bright crater
I dont know how to read code ..... thats what I meant
violet path
they've afaik never had any security issues, you should be fine using it
it is open source, other people have looked at it and there haven't been any issues
bright crater
I gotcha - that all makes sense. I just dont want to loose my account so I figured asking would be best since I am code illiterate basically. I thank you all for helping me
scarlet orbit
c++> all
gloomy palm
Since the people in #1┃endgame-help never seem to answer, this looks like the next best thing...
Can I ask about item filters here?
radiant hawk
personally I'd just start in #1┃general and let them point me somewhere else if needed
gloomy palm
Oh, people don't really do that most often.
If a question is in the right place, but people can't answer it, they'll ignore it.
exotic edge
so stash can be filtered with the highlights search, but it still takes 2 mins to grab all my maps from quad in order to put them in the map stash tab.... is there a approved mod that with grab all the highlighted items and move them into you inventory and visa versus
grave wren
no, not legal to macro that according to ggg
violet path
@exotic edge sounds against the TOS to me
exotic edge
really? it would be a huge QoL... I can shift+ctrl buy items. I want to shift+ctrl move all jewels
takes me 10 mins to go through my quad tabs
grave wren
exactly the reason why ggg doesnt what that kind of automation
exotic edge
k, bots... but I mean ultimately sorting fragments, currency, maps, uniques... etc... not fun gameplay
grave wren
ultimately youre gaining unfair advantage over other people to a huge degree
exotic edge
what if... it was an update... like for 4.0.... it'd be nice
violet path
they've explicitly been against some kind of special dump button, to autosort and dump your inventory to the appropriate tabs. This is similar, so I wouldn't get your hopes up
radiant hawk
gotta enforce that pointless tedium
grave wren
not really pointless, your decision if you dump and go or just pre-sort
violet path
I don't want to make any economic or resource decisions, and as few decisions as possible in combat is a more and more popular view
grave wren
i know, read that hogm thread and went 
instantaneously
exotic edge
alright how about this is there a way to augment the highlighted search with key words like chrome, or 6s
common vendor recipes
violet path
highlighting in game im not sure, but there are extensions like https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/looty-stash-search-for-pa/ajfbflclpnpbjkfibijekgcombcgehbi?hl=en-US or apps like https://github.com/xyzz/acquisition which might be useful to you, and programs can overlay highlights on the screen so it should be possible to make a program read the screen for 6s/chrome items and highlight them on the overlay
don't think there's an in-game search you can do to find those items though, but I could be wrong
worthy cape
Hack in an overlay into Procurement maybe?
radiant hawk
yeah, mercurytrade highlights grid positions for trades, actually setting up a search in a non-obnoxious way would be tricky though
don't think there's a nice convenient api for reading a stash, all of the things i've seen that do it are really awkward
worthy cape
Assuming you don’t barf over C# and XAML ^^
Biggest problem with Procurement and other session-id using programs is the rate limit if you have many tabs.
worthy cape
@simple ravine great way to get uninvited shamebids
simple ravine
Yeah, I used the 'make map tab public' option for Exilence
get an occasional "Hi, I'd like to buy your Dig Map in..."
some people seem to have them on some kind of auto-whisper on live search thing
worthy cape
I have to reconsider using the browser as front end to my side-by-side hex editor by the way. Kills my browser for minutes to do 12k fetch() futures and he subsequent table relayouts:)
simple ravine
get messages instantly sometimes
worthy cape
Maybe I should do things correctly instead 😃
simple ravine
hah maybe 😄
worthy cape
How on earth do people rehydrate HTML on the client, some sort of handlebars thing?
The web is a mystery
Got around trying a simple Rust web server, very friendly routing via macros.
Probably no security holes <_<
simple ravine
@worthy cape I think stuff like vue/react etc is used
mvvm, shadow dom and all those cool kid on the block stuff
worthy cape
Ugh
simple ravine
I'm actually doing one now for a big three-letter swedish (swiss-owned) company right now
and it includes integrating with another three-letter system, which is hideous
worthy cape
I hope that the letters are not A,P,S in some order.
I had to think for quite a bit to remember the name of the abomination, which I guess is a good thing.
worthy cape
Got a good idea which one it is, got some fika buddies that have worked there before.
simple ravine
and manufacture a lot of things
worthy cape
Bringing in the big money on the contract? 😛
grave wren
yeh boi yall got some ABAP
simple ravine
🤢
grave wren
(in all seriousness, rip you)
simple ravine
fortunately, it'll be over very soon
and I am not touching it again, if I can
never again
simple ravine
I think there are better ways of integrating with that thing
than using ABAP, if you have a customer that actually has the decent modules and know them
but it feels really old tech
grave wren
highest thing ive used from them is ui5
i'd never touch their shitty stack besides that
i can deal with an oldschool js framework
but fuck touching abap
simple ravine
I dont even know what that is, and I think our customer neither does
simple ravine
here's a fun thing - the application needs to download files from their thing, and those ABAP things needs to have callback support, which requires the GUI app installed
and this is a web app
imagine this will blow up in all our faces
grave wren
i had a meeting about using custom odata adaptors for java vs native abap
abap consisted of a guy furiously clicking around in eclipse custom guis
to expose 1 new attribute
java you create a db view, create the entity, bam exposed
grave wren
oic
we have our own thing to expose java entities via odata
we dont even try to "connect" to existing things
or at least i did not
and i have 0 interest in doing it
grave wren
the thing i work at atm is basically 90% integration of external systems
it's grating how often shit is fucked without us being at fault
simple ravine
you're a consultant too, or?
grave wren
nope normal grunt worker dev for now
feels like being one to our customer tho
but welp
my main issue atm is lack of literally any roles in my current project. We are 3 devs in there with an absent architect and no PM. Any dumb idea from the customers come directly to us. Then again great benefits, climate and use of holidays/extra hours
simple ravine
I see those issues in a lot of places
I also see customers who have developers with the role 'solution architect'
I have a new client now, that has 3 solution architects, who also are the developers, yet they feel they are not qualified enough to be called architects I've been told
I'm perplexed
grave wren
isnt any coder a "solution" architect
fwiw i did a software architecture cert and it was a total joke
waste of money and time
but i guess customers will jerk off on it
simple ravine
yeah
Uncle Bob says it well
"An architect is a very experienced developer"
architects who don't have a great deal of developer experience is a con artist
That's a pretty good statement
yeah, it waters down the role itself for us who actually want to bear them with dignity, with risk of sounding too pompous
simple ravine
The risk is that the PM won't fix that. Most PMs I know of don't have the technical background to discuss these issue with the client without coming to you.
grave wren
true, but sometimes not hearing the dumb ideas would be blissful
they've wasted so much money on features nobody uses
and every time we've warned them that this doesnt seem like a good idea to implement it as x
in theory our customer does
in practice no
simple ravine
So you work at a company who has a product, which you customize for your clients?
deft jolt
doesn't sound like a fun job
grave wren
It is mostly
would be better if the customer would listen to our objections more
you learn a lot more than being just a grunt dev tho
comp is great too in general but sometimes its stupid when they try to save 3 bucks on shitty things
we'll get a lab in our office building with 3d printers, scanners etc.
isntead of just providing filament they want people to throw some coins in a coffee cup to cover costs
seems kinda pitiful
simple ravine
sounds like a consultant gig
grave wren
doesnt consultant imply consulting other devs?
simple ravine
no, it means you're an outsourced developer to another company
like Sogeti, as I work for, we have both resource consultancy, but also project based
grave wren
oic
radiant hawk
ffff I rely too much on mercurytrade, then when it randomly stops working I'm hopeless
i should grab the source and try to see what's happening, but I despise java
have a feeling it's a locking issue, maybe the game can't open a new log file when I relaunch it because mt still has the old one open
using chat logs for this is such an awful approach
slow forge
@radiant hawk You know Kakao users are not logged, right?
radiant hawk
yep
that's part of why logging is a bad approach, heh
(an rpc system for forwarding chat might avoid the dumb logging legislation issues)
but often mt just stops working entirely for me until I restart it
which is a different issue
slow forge
Also, if I remember correctly, there was a guy on reddit the other day that claimed to have a working trade helper for Kakao users
Wanted to try it, but it auto closed if it couldn't detect PoE
radiant hawk
should take a look, though I don't know if there's any possible way to do it that wouldn't break ggg policy
(memory watch, etc)
any source?
slow forge
I think it was called DeadlyTrade or something like that
radiant hawk
ominous name heh
slow forge
He made the post on main sub
worthy cape
@radiant hawk mine manages to move the trade panel down by half a screen occasionally, particularly when having it remove on party kick.
Not sure if that is just a timer race or DPI shenanigans. Like you, setting up Java environments is a pain 😃
The control bar is still there and works, and if I go into unlock mode it shows the thing at its proper place and it sticks if I jiggle it and relock.
radiant hawk
if it was in a more sane language I'd be more interested in trying to fix it, but java is a big turn-off
worthy cape
Java code in Github alone is unreadable.
radiant hawk
would like to make it show korean names properly, since it's useful for trade outs even if it can't see incoming
probably just a font issue
worthy cape
Open a file, no meaningful contents, just some empty class adaptor implemention controller view.
Aye
radiant hawk
would also be nice for it to support poemap whispers
to be fair, the other main helper i use is poe-trademacro, which is an autohotkey monstrosity
even java is more appealing than touching that heh
simple ravine
so what's your language of choice, @radiant hawk?
radiant hawk
that's a big question :P
python or c++ depending on the situation, fine with JS, C#
i've used lua more than most people
(stepmania)
it is not a good language :P but it's not at all the worst
but I'd never use it for anything new
it's a well-intentioned language with some big mistakes
violet path
@radiant hawk i moved from MT to https://github.com/labo89/TraderForPoe and never looked back tbh. still has kaokao logging issues but unavoidable etc.
grave wren
more sane language
tbh if java is not sane i am not sure what you're expecting
if you can read c# you can read java
simple ravine
Java just makes me think of SAP
grave wren
weird analogy
simple ravine
pom.xml and bloat, no properties (getters/setters) etc
but the syntax itself looks fine
grave wren
yeah thats why it was super weird to read "sane"
simple ravine
especially comparing with python and lua hehe
simple ravine
i dont like langauges that make annoying shorts, like kotlin etc and fun instead of function
I just think of the actual word fun when i look at it, and my brain hiccs up
grave wren
i dont like switching between different paradigms but other than that it's fair game for me
for my thesis i swapped between python and php
that was not very fun
simple ravine
because php doesn't have oop as first class citizen?
grave wren
oh it was even more simple things
basic comparisons and syntax
python has the word approach and php is using the oldschool operators for example
simple ravine
yeah, I feel confused and think languages with global functions are not for me
grave wren
not a fan of php syntax in general although it's bearable
it's similar to js in if you ever need to find out how to write basic stuff you know how to do in other langs and find github solutions
that are wonky as fuck
guess that comes with them being easy to use/simple to jump in
I think the main lang i am interested in atm i did not use yet would be go
but i have no use-case where it'd really shine
simple ravine
I used PHP in the late 90s and early 00s
radiant hawk
java environments are awful and the language feels like it was designed by managers, not programmers
i can read it just fine, but it's deeply unenjoyable
blazing rover
nevermind; stopped the search too early
granite sable
anyone else noticed a typoe on poe.trade that doesn't let you search for brutal restraint asenath variant?
Denoted service of # dekhara in the akhara of **Asaneth** Passives in radius are Conquered by the Maraketh
tidal nova
is there a way to get a pob link if you can't use pob? i play on a mac via GFN and can't use pob, but wanna have a link to look at my character on poe buddy
grave wren
POB works fine on a Mac with wine
Poe buddy is also pretty much abandoned for two leagues now I'd recommend POB party
tidal nova
@grave wren i tried to get wine to work and have failed, several times 😭
grave wren
I've installed it normally via play on Mac and it just worked on my MacBook air
tidal nova
man, maybe the instructions i was following were bad. i had to copy and paste codes and stuff... way outside my real of knowledge. i'll try to find a resource to help me give it another go
pob party looks good. thanks Faust
grave wren
https://www.playonmac.com/en/ < it's pretty self explanatory and basically just bundles wine stuff nicely
tidal nova
ok, i'll give that a go, thanks!
last thing, is there a way to import a character into pob party? i don't see that window
grave wren
don't think so yet - it's mostly there to view pastebin links on web pob or create new builds as is. Not sure if there's more to come.
simple ravine
yes, by copying the actual code and not the pastebin link
acoustic snow
Is there a way to get an account name from a character name?
Also @tidal nova pob.party works fine
You can't import characters, though. You can only import pastebins
tidal nova
@acoustic snow ok that’s what I was struggling with
Can anyone hook me up with my character’s pastebin?
Spin_bish
acoustic snow
https://pastebin.com/d9QJsQnc That should be it @tidal nova
deft jolt
or if the profile is private you could use the 3rd party https://api.poe.watch/accounts?character=quillhitman as a fallback
onyx lichen
Exilence has been down since last night.
Funny enough, Currency Cop is working fine, and they haven't updated since Feb.
🤷
simple ravine
ooof
worthy cape
I wonder if they're bit by the "no slashes after directories" glitch the website grew the other day.
My muscle memory entry is for /trade/, which still doesn't work.
simple ravine
what glitch are you referring to?
worthy cape
With a recent patch, previously working paths to the trade site (mostly) were invalidated.
simple ravine
That is some funky resource lookup
I've seen both PHP and Java frameworks have this issue
fathom spruce
radiant hawk
yeah there's definitely something wonky with mercurytrade reading logs, it just stops seeing them at some point (not a korean issue, they're in the file)
sigh I don't want to have to set up a java dev environment to track it down, but it's annoying
simple ravine
I'm slowly working on a alternative for both mercury trade and trade macro
just don't want to rush it
simple ravine
there are some additional things I want to have in a trade program
first and foremost, it should make sure that the price is what you're asking for, and if not, highlight this (warn that the user may be trying to cheat you)
it should also tell you when your prices are out of date on known items, such as currency/fragments/maps etc
radiant hawk
interfacing with the active player's stash is tricky, though
simple ravine
no it's not
radiant hawk
seems like everything on the apis is cached and can always be behind
simple ravine
well a bit cached data is better than no data
radiant hawk
even just updating pob seems like it's delayed by a couple minutes
simple ravine
but from what I've seen it updates pretty quickly
radiant hawk
("dangit just show me what I just did") heh
simple ravine
GCD?
ah
when my RNG is taunting me to a burnout, i usually end up flipping to get my season HH
and some times, a couple of people come by and try their luck altering the ratios
that can ruin the whole night's worth of flipping
tidal nova
@acoustic snow thanks!
gah, i can't paste into pob party
it's weird, i can't actually type it in either. like i can't use special characters. oh well
simple ravine
not the URL
acoustic snow
copy the pastebin and put that in
jade adder
@compact isle Hey novynn - we've noticed that some links no longer work with trailing / - see here for example: https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/175003881300951040/598265979046199349
Was this a change on your end? Or is it browser/discord related?
nvm viper linked me to a comment of yours that addresses this https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cnd8bh/rip_trade_searches/ewf25hk/?context=3
radiant hawk
geh
for some reason mercurytrade feels like it should discard all trades on afk
on the list of Really Dumb Things That Someone Probably Thought Was A Good Idea At The Time
simple ravine
you can click the dnd button
radiant hawk
no, I had outgoing trades (leaving them there to remind me to re-send them later to afk people), and it just silently discarded all of them when I afk'd
i've been resisting setting up a java environment to fix some of its foibles, but I'm going to have to suck it up and just do it
autoCloseTriggers.add("This player is AFK."); <- no
simple ravine
lol
I'm deep-knee in SAP<->C# integration atm, and I can't stand the SAP GUI (which obviously is Java)
I wouldn't want my worst enemy to have this
radiant hawk
not sure which environment people actually use for this stuff, I'm allergic to java
simple ravine
I'm having a C# WPF embryo
radiant hawk
i've used android studio recently (because, well, android), and the best thing I can say about it is "at least it's not eclipse"
(bluh. I was also using the timer to check how long since I whispered, trying not to re-whisper within at least an hour)
not a big deal, just trying to do my part in not being a whisper spammer, heh
worthy cape
I'm so happy that I've gotten around changing the font to Fontin, makes it feel much more PoE. https://i.imgur.com/tE1cWv9.png
worthy cape
Heh, this took way too long to figure out from context - DGR files are for indoor dungeons, TGR files are for outdoor terrain?
There's some weird ones like Dig having TGR topologies, but I guess it's rooms with an outdoor theming.
grave wren
Never had any wishes on any jetbrains ides
They solve all things I want them to solve
worthy cape
Rust one was a bit meh as you could only debug with GNU toolchains, but I think they've grown some MSVC junk now.
simple ravine
Would be nice to see the UWP performance in a more relaxed setting like WPF
bright crater
is this the official trade macro https://github.com/PoE-TradeMacro/POE-TradeMacro ?
radiant hawk
not official, but it's one a lot of people use
patent agate
has anyone come across a list of the HasEnchantment id's for new skills? Berserk, Perforate, Blood and Sand etc
primal niche
@timid hemlock There is no "effective flask stats" showing if my only source of flask duration effect is Soulthirst. That is a bug right ?
timid hemlock
Can't reproduce that
timid hemlock
Still can't reproduce it
timid hemlock
Oh , you should have mentioned the flask type... this looks to be specific to life/mana flasks
I was trying with a utility flask
Anyway, that'll be fixed
primal niche
Okay my bad
I didnt realise flask type could be the case
It is probably because of quality right ?
timid hemlock
Correct
blazing rover
Item sockets are always immediately after the 3rd line of dashes, right? Or do you guys usually search for the term "sockets" from the clipboard when you want to find that info?
E.g.
Rarity: Unique
Cloak of Defiance
Lacquered Garb
Quality: +5% (augmented)
Evasion Rating: 1433 (augmented)
Energy Shield: 281 (augmented)
Requirements:
Level: 52
Dex: 76
Int: 76
Sockets: B-B G-G G
Item Level: 61
396% increased Evasion and Energy Shield (300-400%)
+129 to maximum Mana (100-150)
1% of Mana Regenerated per second
10% of Damage is taken from Mana before Life
Mind Over Matter
blazing rover
Cool. I'll implement a search then
acoustic snow
Rarity: Rare
Beast Clutches
Wool Gloves
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Energy Shield: 5 (augmented)
Sockets: B-G-G-R
Item Level: 3
Adds 23 to 33 Cold Damage
Adds 1 to 2 Cold Damage to Attacks
Adds 1 to 55 Lightning Damage
+8% to Lightning Resistance
+5 Life gained on Kill
If there are no requirements, then there's no requirements section
If all you need is the sockets, a regex is probably your best bet?
Could also probably have no defenses/quality (0q tab for instance) and not have that section either.
simple ravine
Could also be interesting to create a parser combinator for this, if you want more than just the sockets
I think I made a C# parser for this way back, let me see if I can dig it up
yeah, looks like I used regex too:
private static readonly Regex RarityRegex = new Regex("^Rarity: (.*)$");
private static readonly Regex SocketsRegex = new Regex("^Sockets: (.*)$");
private static readonly Regex ItemLevelRegex = new Regex("^Item Level: (\\d+)$");
private static readonly Regex QualityRegex = new Regex("^Quality: (\\d+)$");
This code's from 2017, so possibly need some changes
primal niche
@timid hemlock Have you ever thought about adding like 3 additional input boxes into configuration tab for user-specified multipliers ? Like
More damage
Increased damage
Increased enemy damage taken```
I think it would be cool and pretty easy to implement. Am I wrong ?
simple ravine
Haha, pwned.
worthy cape
See, one should use nullptr 😛
(although after reading further, seems like the substring is a horrible idea thanks to over-eager hardeners)
simple ravine
well, in many languages NULL is used, same with SQL
rapid pagoda
@primal niche I wonder if a more fruitful approach would be to have an extra text input somewhere to attach extra global mods to the build, to replace the common "hack" of attaching them to a custom jewel.
That being said, the (hypothetical) mod "Enemies take #% increased Damage" isn't supported, and I'm not sure what you mean by "additional damage scaling"
stiff island
anyone know how I can get a list of items in one of my own public stashes?
I tried using the link below, but it just lists all my stashes and not any specific items in one
https://www.pathofexile.com/character-window/get-stash-items?league=Legion&accountName=cryocaustik&tabs=1&tabindex=3
rapid pagoda
@stiff island You need to capitalize the I in tabIndex=
stiff island
ty! will try it now
rapid pagoda
You can also leave out tabs=1 to omit the list of tabs
stiff island
huge thank you for this
violet path
is there any reason the trade site doesn't have a category for rapiers like it does with sceptres?
violet path
well if you wanted to have two different searches for say, corrupted swords and corrupted thrusting swords, that wouldn't work and I don't think there's anyway around that
i was just wondering, no biggie
violet path
@earnest radish ah true ty
hazy fog
tidal nova
has anyone played poe on playonmac? just curious if it's better than geforce now
not that GFN is bad. just wondering if it's better
eager rivet
Apparently throwing more layers to a neural network doesn't make it any better at predicting PoE prices. 😄
frigid nova
@eager rivet whats your data set/architecture?
eager rivet
just some preliminary experiment I am doing. My dataset is trash because I am taking all the jewels from trade api and treating them as an input
if there are N jewel mods, my input is an 100.000 x N Dataframe
6 Dense layers with dropout (2048 -> 1024 -> ...)
frigid nova
id highly recommend using a deep res net with that kind of input. But regardless of architecture i'd imagine you'll be limited by data quality pretty significantly
eager rivet
Yeah, If I had an actual way of getting a dataset of items that actually sell
Theoretically I could create a dataset of items that enter a stash and leave the stash in a specific amount of time
it still wouldnt be items that are sold for sure but still, itd be better
frigid nova
what is N in your case?
eager rivet
One minute, I need to restart the computer
@frigid nova its ~600 columns
just for jewels
with ~150.000 items for training set
frigid nova
@eager rivet you might try throwing a vanilla resnet18 attention mechanism at it, also id recommend trying to fit log prices and throwing away the top x% of the prices out of your dataset as a first measure to scrub the data
eager rivet
Thanks, would log prices actually improve the net accuracy other than making the apparent loss smaller?
frigid nova
it effectively changes the loss function so you'll get different results. id argue that a good price predictor is one which gets prices within a multiplicative threshold of the actual price rather than additive, in which case you'd want loss on log
eager rivet
That makes a lot of sense
frigid nova
anyway im happy to chat about this more in pms, got plenty of opinions about ml 🙃
eager rivet
Also for practical use, if the item is worth a lot. I'd be ok just knowing that the item costs a lot. I dont care if it actually costs 400c or 600c and the market doesnt make a lot of sense after a price point anyway
humble kindle
i want to create a program that checks if im online and edits a forum post i created depending on that, how can i do this? never tried to do anything for this game before
hazy fog
well unless you're on the ladder, you can't. There is no publicly available online status api
you could theoretically run a program that checks if poe is running and does that but it will have no idea if you're logged in
😉
humble kindle
which ladder?
im on the ladder
sorry for the bad drawing lol
can i use this somehow?
also i know acquisition is able to update your status somehow
so i have to export the csv and use that to update my status in that case?
ah, that sucks
is it possible to edit the forum post with some sort of api, still?
thank you
delicate ore
can you add opengraph info to private league links
so that discord and other social media correctly preview them
worthy cape
Can't say I had planned to spend my evening figuring out how to migrate all my old Mercurial repos and get away from bitbucket... https://bitbucket.org/blog/sunsetting-mercurial-support-in-bitbucket
worthy cape
(also doing an tally on how many dependencies we will irrecoverably lose to the e-void mid-2020)
Eigen will assumedly deal with it, but it's going to be Fun to see SCons migrate 😄
worthy cape
In EasyBuild, "Eigen, HPDBSCAN, KEALib, pyplusplus, dicombrowser, g2log, GFOLD, MetaPhlAn2"
No major casualties, but there's probably a ton of useful things out there that may not notice in time.
grave wren
true
worthy cape
I've got 11 repos myself that I need to figure out how to move \o/
simple ravine
oof
worthy cape
Heh, x265 and pypy run Mercurial there.
violet path
i thought ziggyd vid and stuff said it was just uniques, no fractured items/synthesizer
velvet fog
compact isle
just uniques from bosses
worthy cape
I welcome a less interesting league, might have some time to actually dev then 🙂
simple ravine
Same. Makes me spend less money xD
grave wren
"buy one free Chris Wilson approved Hawaiian shirt get the second one free"
- after rereading its good i am coding and not writing ads
worthy cape
While a good idea, it rhymes poorly with the whole "can we trust packages to not be rooted" thing lately.
Almost as clever as the Mr. Robot sillyware delivery by Mozilla into Firefox.
median mirage
did someone make a tool that counts expected value of number of alteration orbs to get selected mods of selected tier on selected itemlevel? if not is there some api for poedb? and how reliable mods weights on it?
frigid nova
I have code that does that but its not in a state for release.
median mirage
where did you get weights for mods?
frigid nova
they are in the content.gppk
I'm happy to discuss my hypothesis on how items are rolled in the game in pms if you are interested.
pseudo ocean
is it a taboo of me to ask for help with the gggtracker bot your server is running, to help fix mine?
i got it semi-running, it has issues loading the cogs for gggtracker, leaderboards, pricechecker.
grave wren
pseudo ocean
@grave wren having a gender ratio of 1:1 on everything these days is more important than scientific progress
so at least we know why this world goes down the shitter
hazy fog
@pulsar moat @pseudo ocean you two should talk
pulsar moat
@pseudo ocean what repo are you trying to use for this?
(make sure to ping me for replies)
We use https://github.com/synzen/Discord.RSS for gggtracker.com -> #ggg-tracker, and a Zapier recipe for GGG twitter -> #ggg-tracker
I manage processes on the box with Supervisor
mortal bone
I am currently hosting the bot on an ovh vps
Like $3.95 a month
I use pm2 to manage the service, and you will want to install pm2rotatinglogs
velvet fog
@compact isle sorry, I don't know where to report, Garena web site got many javascript error when click character info
zenith vigil
is it possible to get info from a not public stash from an API? kinda like Procurement does, it also scans non-premium tabs
maybe i did a shoddy work because i couldn't find that info
hmm i see
can i consult that through the public stash API? or is it another method?
oh amazing... thank you so much
oh ok, that's good to know
oh! this will be awesome! again, thank you
pseudo ocean
@pulsar moat i found this https://github.com/Leftn/PoEDiscordBot by searching for the tracker itself.
I'm really only interested in the tracker to see the relative new unique reddit posts and such, and maybe later on when i learn more python, use it for some personal test projects to self learn
whitch is why I want to get it working for myself aswell, to learn from it later, and i have alot of servers already on my client, where on my phone It's already difficult to find the ones i fancy looking trough
pulsar moat
Ah gotcha
Haven't used that bot before, don't have any context for it
pseudo ocean
i see, then I can assume the tracker here was made by one of you? Would be rood of me to ask the source if that's the case 😅
hazy fog
he told you what he used 
mortal bone
@pseudo ocean we just use the discord.rss bot
compact isle
@velvet fog seems to be their bar is conflicting, I've let them know
zenith vigil
is it possible to get the items in the player inventory? looks like neither get-items nor get-stash-items do that, but people talked about it in here, although i couldn't find any means
minor charm
looks like it is /character-window/get-items from that api that got posted before
golden bane
@zenith vigil get-items works just fine like this /character-window/get-items?accountName=${accountName}&character=${characterName}
Filter for {inventoryId: "MainInventory"} to omit items on the character itself
zenith vigil
@golden bane huh... weird
making the call like that only returns the equipped items for me, including flasks, but nothing from the inventory
i'll give it a go with that additional parameter... thanks a lot
golden bane
You need a valid session ID too
zenith vigil
yeah, i'm using the same ID to successfully use get-stash-items from private tabs
i'll try to trace what's going on, something must be wrong on my part
golden bane
Have you tried it in a browser?
zenith vigil
i actually don't know how to do it in the browser since it requires an additional parameter for the cookies
i did try on Chuanhsing's page and it does work fine
i guess i'll just need to sleep for now... such a stupid issue eluding me
thanks for the help though
golden bane
Okay, in the browser, you can manually add/edit/delete cookies too. In Firefox, it's with Shift+F9
Don't know how it's in other browsers though
zenith vigil
luckily i'm using firefox, and that's a lot easier than I thought
ooohhh beautiful, got it working, finally
civic junco
hello new here, can anybody help me make a request in my characters/accounts stash bypassing the CORS restrictions? using javascript?
civic junco
I would rather not use someone else's proxy. already googling how to make my very own 😛
for reference found a proxy, which does not utilize cookies so that didn't help. got 403 error
bold spire
Some time ago (about a month or so?), I had a few questions concerning whether or not certain potential functions of a macro I´d have liked to make would be acceptable. Emailed Support after being told to do so, they told me they weren´t able to comment on such matters. Subsequently posted in Gameplay Help and Discussion (seemed like the most appropriate forum? Thinking of it, Help and Information would probably have been better...), and have yet to receive a reply. Are there other channels I could try to get an official answer, or should I just drop the matter?
golden bane
There are few consistent official answers/guidelines, just use common sense
timid grotto
Can anyone provide ideas for getting Looty to work? It broke(?) in Chrome a while ago but was working in Firefox until todayish(?). http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/832233/page/43 Also, anyone know of any other tool I can use to find a single item in hundreds of stash tabs? 🤐
Or I could just be an idiot who forgot to login first... which explains the 401 rather than 403 I was getting. 🤐 : Still interested to know if there are alternatives.
worthy cape
I'm still using Procurement.
Booting and refreshing it tends to run into rate limits, but anything will.
gloomy marsh
grave wren
Cursed image
compact isle
is anyone currently using the categories property on items?
compact isle
public stash / character window
deft jolt
i am
fickle yew
Yep, me too.
deft jolt
don't think so
delicate ore
does anyone here use google cloud platform?
they have some great free services, permanent free vps instance and other stuff
and they give a ton of free credit too, like 300 bucks
pricing seems decent
i just use an ssh tunnel on their free vps lol
frigid nova
@delicate ore I use google cloud platform at work, (but mainly just compute and storage)
simple ravine
kubernetes too?
frigid nova
yeah, luckily its mostly abstracted away from my point of view. have an infrastructure team that just provides an api to any kubernetes cluster.
but im sure i'll hear their opinions soon enough on the differences between the two providers
simple ravine
im a "cloud and system architect" so i talk about azure a lot, but not too much on gcp yet
i like their services a lot
frigid nova
ah nice, yeah im definitely on the consumer end of the cloud services, but am interested in understanding more of the architecture and design principles
simple ravine
yeah not much coding these days
more advisory, like "when do we choose event hubs over service bus or storage queues?"
and "we have US and European customers, but we have to abide by both GDPR and HIPAA, yet a quick system when many users are on the system is a requirements. how?"
frigid nova
yeah that sounds like a headache
simple ravine
but discussing those topic on a high level is fun too
and cloud definitely helps minimizing the headache
was working on a RFP for a customer
on a rewrite of a system someone else did, and they experienced severe performance issues once they started onboarding customers
we're landing on roughly 25,000 man-hours 😂
grave wren
i am using the free tier GCS to host my own instance of pob bot
didnt do very much with it yet but its pretty stable
worthy cape
@simple ravine Turns out that universities aren't that immune to GDPR - https://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.722796/datainspektionen-gdpr-granskar-umea-universitet
snow kernel
nobody is
you might not need explicit permission for data usage as per art. 6 of the gdpr, but no matter who u are, if u fail to secure the data, u are liable
worthy cape
I had some vague idea that we were slightly exempt from some parts, but it's not my responsibility \o/
hard isle
Hope this is the right place for my question :)
Does anyone know if there is a way to increase font size in PoB? I can't read anything in that app
frigid nova
@slate rover @ornate fox would it be possible to make ctrl f on your website auto select the tree search bar?
grave wren
I think the web version might help a bit more. It's called POB.party
hard isle
definitely will since zooming is integrated into browser
thank you ❤
grave wren
hard isle
yet wrong i was, same font size and zoom doesnt work :S
maybe i‘ll try windows magnifying glass 😄
tulip pier
Hey guys, has anyone ever tried to calculate the chances of hitting mods with alteration? I'm wondering if such a tool already exist by entering mods and spawn weight
ornate fox
@frigid nova hey, this is already a feature on the website
frigid nova
@ornate fox i just tested on firefox and chrome on windows and it works, while on firefox and chrome on osx it doesnt, could be something local on my end though.
compact isle
thanks for the responses guys, it's probably moving spots so wanted to know if it impacted people
does anyone use it for character-window stuff or just public stash API?
we're going to be adding the prefix / suffix counts to PSAPI so looking to move it in with that property
unreal solar
anyone have any experience in getting the search query from the search id on the official trade site?
yeah
unreal solar
thanks !
compact isle
the ?q= is necessary because it bypasses the search content check
(a bug on our end really)
unreal solar
i have but thanks for the thought
unreal solar
@compact isle is it possible to offset the starting point of the search? to get more than 100 results back over multiple requests
compact isle
Not possible sorry
unreal solar
alright thanks
sharp spruce
@hard isle my solution to PoB font size has been to drag the monitor closer. I hope it helps! 😄
proud oriole
How long will it take for PoB to update all its calculations after the Patch notes go live
snow kernel
dont count on it being anytime soon
proud oriole
Isn't really simple though, like all the guy needs to do is put in the new values for the changes ?
frigid nova
@proud oriole many of the changes are new mechanics, also the developer works for ggg and hence is quite busy.
proud oriole
Nuts T_T
worthy cape
Numerical tuning is one thing, actual new mechanics and things that can't really be represented well are harder.
Like what is the DPS of "impale", or any other clever interaction of skills.
There's been a bit of a trend toward more complex and situational mechanics, which is nice from a gameplay perspective but is bad for spreadsheet warriors.
sharp spruce
Spreadsheet is the best way to get a grasp of impale. I had no idea how powerful it was even though playing with passives, ascendancies and supports related to impale quite a lot. Then i checked out some spreadsheets others had made i finally understood the implications of it and the effects of the passives, ascendancies and supports.
But yeah implementing them to PoB would certainly take more effort than plain increase / more modifiers
worthy cape
Heck, does PoB have adjustable shock yet? 🙂
frigid nova
@humble kindle if this script sends more than one action to the servers based on you holding down your left mouse button then I believe it is against TOS
humble kindle
alright, i removed it
sharp spruce
Is there a tool or some convenient way to search for uniques that could work with specific skill gems or build?
hazy fog
nothing as simple as list all items that apply to x but path of building does let you search uniques for 'poison' for example
sharp spruce
Yeah, i just realized PoB also sorts by DPS which is useful for some items and builds. Also wiki has list of useful items for some skills.
simple ravine
The wiki does a decent job listing good stuff that synergizes with gems no?
bold spire
is there a way to obtain the information on which of a character´s skills are currently in what location on the UI?
bold spire
(just about any method that´s acceptable by ToS would do)
bold spire
so, for the sake of knowing what skill is located in say, the "first" UI slot (LMB), image matching with on screen data is okay? (ah right, insofar as no serverside inputs are automated its fine)
long - term goal is a more accurate / detailled skill info
ah
nah, no timers
hmm
most of the stuff I want to add is stash or inventory related
no buffs or the like
but on the other hand, the goal is far more automation than discussed above
namely automated price estimations, evaluations on dps increase compared to current gear, etc.
not semi-automated price-estimating either, but fully automated running in the background, using api data
I mean it is 100% api based
Doesn´t directly interact with the game itself at all. But still.
Would be kinda saddening if that´d be not okay.
cosmic saffron
compact isle
any troubles with the changes Emmitt?
mortal bone
@compact isle I didn't actually make this update. I just published it lol I will be messing with the data tomorrow morning. I haven't had a chance to touch it yet
compact isle
ah okay, I think that weird array/object problem was fixed and we changed the base image path
mortal bone
Oh, nice! Yeah, I will look at it in more detail in the morning. I think the old 'issue' is we don't have the blight notable images
BlightedNotableFrameUnallocated
BlightedNotableFrameCanAllocate
BlightedNotableFrameAllocated```oh that's true
they're direct drop-in replacements for regular notable frames so you can use those in the meantime I suppose
mortal bone
Yeah, they aren't used in our code anywhere yet, so we just out placeholder images there until the data goes live
woeful sphinx
Changes were fine, only had to add placeholder images for the blighted notables.
remote yoke
@compact isle, Minions Regenerate of 1% Life per second, incorrect wording?
It's used in ~3 or so places.
The "regenerate of" specifically
bold spire
thx, @earnest radish - and there´s already tools that automatically get estimations on the value of all stashed items?
I mean I knew that plenty of tools summarize currency values and the like. But for all including rares?
also, mind if I include your tool and automate the comparison fully for stashed items? (Alongside other modifications - would probably do the search too.)
storm wedge
"A map cannot be Blighted as well as Shaped or Elder, they are each exclusive" (quote from api changes link) is this about map name only, or shaped/elder maps can't be blighted?
storm wedge
@true storm https://redd.it/czg508
true storm
ty very much
primal niche
@timid hemlock So now it is skill tree that PoB actually understands and calculates with or is it just a tree like the one I could download from reddit and force PoB to use it ? Also thanks for quick update 🙂
timid hemlock
The program will understand most of the new nodes
primal niche
Wonderful, thank you
pseudo ocean
https://i.imgur.com/lquGetn.png is this a normal error to be having on the new pob update?
timid hemlock
That's fixed in the latest update
hazy fog
some folks in general think wither is way too effective
timid hemlock
🙂
timid hemlock
That's fixed in the latest update
obsidian sonnet
is there any way to add/edit a gem to PoB? I want to setup the new Raise Zombie numbers.
hazy fog
there is but its incredibly arcane
obsidian sonnet
I tried to make a flask but adding "Minions have 38% more maximum life" didn't work, it won't accept the change and the flask goes back to default
hazy fog
try making a jewel instead
obsidian sonnet
that'll do it, thanks dood.
signal briar
@timid hemlock quick question how can i use the Allocation on my amulet
hazy fog
you can't yet lol
simple ravine
Wait... if it actually allocates the node in the tree, does that mean we can travel from that node using skillpoints?
frigid nova
Probably works like intuitive
simple ravine
Otherwise, why would it say 'allocates'
frigid nova
Passives in Radius can be Allocated without being connected to your tree```I suppose there is a difference between allocation and being connected to your tree
simple ravine
hmm, true
mortal bone
The nodes aren't connected to the normal tree
frigid nova
He was referring to normal notables, I believe
simple ravine
There are items which says for an instance "Vaal Pact" today
it doesn't say "allocates ...."
frigid nova
yeah but keystones are different
simple ravine
So was just thinking of the change in semantics
frigid nova
I doubt they wanted to make every notable a mod in the game
simple ravine
I know it's a keystone, but the semantics is different, which makes me wonder if it's incidental or if there's more to it
Isn't every notable a mod in the game though?
frigid nova
To my knowledge the passive tree information lives in a separate home from the mod information (in content.ggpk)
mortal bone
You can't skill a node that can't reach the start of your class (except on the case of intuitive leap)
I should say, any starting node, because Scion ascendancy breaks that a bit
Intuitive leap allows a similar allocation of nodes in a radius, but you can't continue off a disconnected node
simple ravine
hmm, can't find "Deadly Draw" in the translations (repoe json)
mortal bone
Yeah, passives and mods are two different things which is probably why they chose to allocate specific nodes
It will be interesting in the future to see what happens when those nodes get removed
frigid nova
Also whats the current saturation of number of oil combos vs number of notables?
simple ravine
hmm, where on earth are the notable translations?
frigid nova
@simple ravine i dont believe repoe processes them currently.
simple ravine
I'm searching in Metadata\StatsDescription file right now
mortal bone
Pretty sure repoe doesn't pull passive definitions
simple ravine
searching for 'Vaal Pact' highlights stat_descriptions though
Emmitt, yeah - but also searching on disk
frigid nova
i need an online content.ggpk viewer 😦
simple ravine
Imagine the potential egress cost
mortal bone
That would be spendy..
simple ravine
Well no
frigid nova
How many total are there (with the new ones)?
mortal bone
Wouldn't it be 12x12x12?
frigid nova
Order doesnt matter @mortal bone
simple ravine
I'm also assuming that you can't combine two of the same oil in the recipe
frigid nova
@earnest radish is correct https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12+multichoose+3
simple ravine
like Oil A + Oil A + Oil B
mortal bone
Nice
simple ravine
Ok lol now this notable translations is bugging me
frigid nova
could look at the wiki
@simple ravine should be in here https://github.com/OmegaK2/PyPoE/blob/dev/PyPoE/cli/exporter/wiki/parsers/passives.py
frigid nova
Just to be clear, Vaal Pact is in stat translations
{
"English": [
{
"condition": [
{}
],
"format": [
"ignore"
],
"index_handlers": [
[]
],
"string": "Vaal Pact"
}
],
"ids": [
"keystone_vampirism"
]
}
hm do we have the 3.8 official tree json or not yet :>?
simple ravine
@frigid nova no notables?
woeful sphinx
notables in the skill tree are node names, not stats. I doubt those are in the translations yet. They might be with 3.8 because then they have to appear on stats.
simple ravine
The question is, how are they translated to non-english stuff then? Hardcoded?
hazy fog
pseudo ocean
oof
hazy fog
its pinned :>
woeful sphinx
@simple ravine It's probably the name field in PassiveSkills.dat. Dat files are translated too.
pseudo ocean
@hazy fog its not that popular but a couple people use it 😄 https://github.com/Caseyy89/FlippingCalc/releases
it basically helps with calculating profits for flipping and a quantity multiplier for e.g. 10c trades etc https://i.imgur.com/YWBOSDX.png i still use it every league
its not automated but automating it would skew the values because of the price fixers/bots, so its basically a manual input calculator for flipping
hazy fog
good enough for me 
pseudo ocean
hazy fog
Welcome to tooldev # uhhh 44. #44. @pseudo ocean ; He created a Flipping calculator available at https://github.com/Caseyy89/FlippingCalc/releases
pseudo ocean
its functional how it is but might have to give it an overhaul in aesthetic's and things to flip, i dont have alot of coding experience, i picked this up to learn a programming language so it has its flaws, but its nice to be included
simple ravine
@woeful sphinx Ah yes, forgot about the translated dat files. Thanks for the reminder 🙂
pseudo ocean
im guessing noone here does wpf right ?
pseudo ocean
ive ran into a problem and giving my low experience im googling out of my mind but i cant seem to find what im looking for
basically im having an issue with window resizing given that im using stackpanels and i had the app restricted from resizing but someone complained they have a small screen and cant resize, so then i enabled resize in it but when they resize it the wrong way e.g. too much height or width either some functions dont show up anymore or the stackpanel just expands into nowhere
https://i.imgur.com/h25MyKS.png
https://i.imgur.com/gw7OyK5.png
not sure what to do
mortal bone
I would have to look at your xaml definitions, but you can define widths and heights for grids to be a dynamic about. For example, you have a 1* column and a 2* column. The 2* column will attempt to be twice the size of the 1* column
I have a feeling you just need to go through and fix some of your column sizing so it looks good on your small screen, and it should scale up ok-ish
pseudo ocean
Not my small screen, some user just mentioned it on github , I'll prob dive deeper tomorrow
stuck reef
....Huh...I think I see what PoB's doing here. There's no way it costs 900+ mana to drop a Heratics Veil -> Spell Totem -> Multiple Totems -> Conductivity -> Temporal Chains link. It must be showing the mana that the totem will be reserving, rather than how much it will cost to place the totem in the first place.
Unless I'm dumb and that's actually how blasphemy totems work, but I don't think I am?
frigid nova
Totems take the reservation percentage as their mana cost
stuck reef
.....huh...that is how they work? ya I see why nobody does that. Shame, that'd be really handy this league for managing multiple lanes.
frigid nova
Keep in mind doedres skin summons an effigy which is effectively a totem which has blasphemy
stuck reef
sigh ya, shame that it's pure ES. Whelp, I'll just find something else to mix in.
cosmic saffron
there's a jewel for running actual aura totems https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ancient_Waystones but try to keep theorycrafting to #1┃build-planning
frigid nova
hi, this is not the channel to talk about scripts which are against tos.
shadow panther
oh sht u right that would be against tos, nvm i'll get rid of it looool
pseudo ocean
Anyone know if the BOT used for Path of Building links on this discord is available for other Discord use? And if so, is there a link for it?
terse burrow
anyone want a bunch of raw currency requests from legion league? with such schema
bold spire
https://app.swaggerhub.com/apis/Chuanhsing/poe/1.0.0 - if I find an error (typo) in one of the links, should I @ Chuanhsing to report it?
it´s concering /character-window/get-stash-items, the "i" in "&tabindex=" should be capitalized
primal niche
@timid hemlock Do you think adding a feature where selecting "Default gem level" 21 will automatically do empower 4 ? I think that would make sense and will show how lvl4 emp will affect your stuff. Lets be honest whoever selects default gem level 21 has no problem getting empower 4
velvet fog
@bold spire thanks
bold spire
np, and thanks for providing the tool.
grave wren
@pseudo ocean you can selfhost your own version it's on GitHub https://github.com/poediscord/poediscordbot
dim stream
@hushed relic https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cpvfj5/lootfilter_filterblade_v100_poeaccount_synced/ez4tiqk/
Yea arnt you worried Neversink? 
pseudo ocean
but he gets our accounts Kappa
cobalt whale
With the release of Blight tomorrow I wanted to update hideoutshowcase.com to be compatible with the new music system in hideouts. Does someone have an example file on how this is going to look in the .hideout file?
grave wren
grave wren
maybe he should just not reuse passwords
hushed relic
OATH2 is not necessary a word people know
grave wren
especially not banking passwords on random sites
hushed relic
Oh, no he's complaining about the "log in with poe" button
thinks he enters the password on filterblade
grave wren
Is nobody worried about providing some random website the passwords that are connected to our bank accounts?
Never doubt people actually doing that
worthy cape
@frigid nova online in what way? poedb has baked data, my old gggtools can expose the file entries over http. Are you looking for something you can use as CDN for a site? Feels sketchy to expose the actual data.
Apart from not decompressing everything, pypoe does the trick locally fine enough.
hushed relic
@dim stream I'm surprised you noticed that, did he report me too? 😅
grave wren
He's a silent watcher
hushed relic
that thread is 22 days old
grave wren
But I don't think you could really explain that stuff to people
For some this computer stuff is just black magic
worthy cape
“This link will take you out to pathofexile proper to auth” disclaimers, corrobated by the auth page? 🙂
Won’t help for the paranoid unknowing, of course.
@frigid nova one could roll a half-decent self-hosted one with either of my libs, depends entirely on the purpose
worthy cape
I had some fun the other day, wrote some Python around the stable.py DAT scheme to emit Rust structures and parsing for the entries.
I keep trying to do C++ meta programming, gonna need to do procedural macros instead.
Tired of slow opening of dats in pypoe_ui
Nothing negative about the codebase, but it’s not speedclear meta 😛
obtuse citrus
It's been a while since I did anything with the UI but last time I checked the primary problem was the callbacks between C++ (QT) and Python that were like taking 50% of the performance :/
worthy cape
Nice
Used it as ground truth when manually implementing readers and had to flip back and forth between different DATs so probably worst case, multiple instances was also painful due to the synchronous startup load.
Very helpful codebase otherwise.
obtuse citrus
yeah there are various improvments that would help, asyncronous or multithreading as well having windows for each dat file would help
also as I said the callbacks take a lot of performance, an option to disable the data offset view at the bottom would probably make many files with a lot of that stuff load twice as fast
worthy cape
“patches welcome” 🙂
obtuse citrus
if you want to just open a specific dat file here is sort of the bare minimum for it: https://github.com/OmegaK2/PyPoE/blob/dev/scripts/profile/PyPoE/ui/dat_handler.py
dense shore
NeverUnFloat how dare you take my money from my bank account 
bold spire
Out of curiosity, can/ does an items ID change when altering it through crafting, or does it only ever change when the item goes to another account (on that note, does it change when migrating?) - I failed to find detailed information on this, and I´d be grateful if someone with the knowledge could tell me, given that trying to figure it out through experimentation might not catch everything.
delicate ore
with great power, comes great responsibility... https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/d03gw8/poesniper_v10_released_support_for_official_trade/
tardy fox
@delicate ore now I found this about 15mins ago funny enough on backend of github search. I've just been talking with my party does this break TOS?
tardy fox
lmao yeah I have it tabbed hadn't read it properly until you just said lmao 😂
as came here to ask if it would before I read it. I call that a sign 😄
But whilst I am here what i was looking for is does anyone have a github for a working trade discord bot?
or somewhere I can source one as I've got about 500000 tabs open 😄
delicate ore
thats an interesting idea actually
tardy fox
I've found some old python scripts. However as tomorrow is patch day and i've messed around on my discord as it is for too long. +knowledge not being massive.
I wondered if there was one. Or I will break apart these pastes and see what I can do :)!
with slowwwwwww time obvs 🙂
bold spire
trade discord bot?
delicate ore
im guessing one like poesniper but reports to discord
bold spire
ah
tardy fox
yeah like you have zana bot for pastebins etc. I wanted to find one for the next league or some steps on how I could ask a discord bot to gather me prices of items I request for it too search 🙂
bold spire
wasn´t quite sure what to make of it, and when I thought it might be like that I was wondering why you wouldn´t handle it as its own window / overlay (and / or report ingame if currently running) instead
tardy fox
Because I have a party of 10 too feed :D!
😂
so being accessible instantly via a bot in a channel for us all to use
as we're going to probably have a dedicated person for trading
bold spire
I see. So the discord part would be for the purpose of sharing... makes sense.
tardy fox
yeah ^_^
bold spire
Goes to show that I´ve never ever partied aside from getting waypoints.
tardy fox
I mean its 10000000000% lazy
As you could post links
but that doesn't look so nice 😛
bold spire
also.... a party of 10, in poe?
grave wren
guild i guess :p
bold spire
ah
frigid nova
he has to feed his minions
tardy fox
ayyyyy someone got it 😄
bold spire
well you could each run a tool and share via the guild channel. Dunno how hard it is to make a discord bot, but if snipers exists, implementing automated posting to guild channel should be easy. Heck even automated whispering to a specified list. Or no, wait, fully automated chatting is against ToS, forgot that.
tardy fox
Tbf parts of me wants to make one and im 100% commited but as tomorrow is nearly here for me. Im gonna try do it but wouldn't be atleast until after 1st week.
bold spire
btw, anyone happen to know something concerning my previous question on item ID´s ?
tardy fox
sorry btw 😂
bold spire
for what?
tardy fox
taking you away from your question hahah 😂
bold spire
nah no worries
I´ve got time
I´ve already wasted like 4 leagues on working on this thing (read: doing absolutely nothing except when remembering that I´m supposed to work on it just before the start of a new league)
also given that the question is buried now, might as well repost it:
Out of curiosity, can/ does an items ID change when altering it through crafting, or does it only ever change when the item goes to another account (on that note, does it change when migrating?) - I failed to find detailed information on this, and I´d be grateful if someone with the knowledge could tell me, given that trying to figure it out through experimentation might not catch everything.
frigid nova
im also interested in this ^
tardy fox
See how much of this applies to your question but for example if you use the split item bestiary and then imprints for example I know it does then....
Pretty sure it does anyway 😂
hazy fog
afaik the id only changes when it changes owners
migration might do it too 
crafting should not
frigid nova
@polar island might know?
Out of curiosity, can/ does an items ID change when altering it through crafting, or does it only ever change when the item goes to another account (on that note, does it change when migrating?) - I failed to find detailed information on this, and I´d be grateful if someone with the knowledge could tell me, given that trying to figure it out through experimentation might not catch everything.
grave wren
master googler poeapp
hazy fog
frigid nova
@polar island thanks!
bold spire
read that. Wasn´t sure in spite of it. Failed to notice the reply was from GGG though
dim stream
@hushed relic Oh yes he did hahah
hazy fog
rearranging pins is a pain
hushed relic
if it wouldn't be for those meddling reporters
hushed relic
I wonder
if GGG would decide
in leagues
mirrors don't drop
would it increase the average happiness or decrease it
hushed relic
I think people might stop playing, but I bet in general people would be happier
main flame
Imagine League without HeadHunter
hushed relic
Unlike mirror's you can't hide just them
I don't wanna ruin the wurm's molt economy
Though, I think for the game headhunters are better than mirrors
Insane chase items are kinda a nice thing to have
main flame
i agree but we need more of them not just one
chase items are fine imo i but i kinda dislike HH
because it kinda brake the game
-have shit build just slap HH on it
hushed relic
Well, one single "endgame encounter" aside
HH doesn't fix your build
just kinda accelerates it
besides it's so freaking expensive, it kinda avoids the imbalance rule
"you have this much currency/luck - you deserve that"
hazy fog
@delicate ore 
hazy fog
imagine a closed source program for free
frigid nova
what incentive do they have for it being closed source
simple ravine
I thought divine/exalt etc changed the ID?
hazy fog
The only exceptions are stackable types, such as currency, which can have different IDs when unstacked and restacked.
hushed relic
what tool is this?
simple ravine
I mean when applying a modifying currency to an item
hazy fog
causing an api update is different from being a different item id
poe sniper neversink
hushed relic
there's sometimes reasons to free software closed source
hazy fog
hushed relic
but in this case, those might not be good ones
usually security
for instance, we don't wanna host filterblade sources (backend in particular) on github
though I dislike the idea of sniping apps anyway...
grave wren
i dont even want to start to argue how dumb that sounds
simple ravine
what api?
grave wren
trade river
simple ravine
well, either you provide open APIs or you don't at all in this case
otherwise you'll just piss other off
especially in this circumstance
frigid nova
Also just to be clear, the sniping app is just opening a websocket to the official trade website, its not using the river.
simple ravine
who made it?
frigid nova
simple ravine
welp, maybe just make an open source alternative that blows his stuff out of the water 🤷
Good thing I am not super excited about the next league mechanic, could potentially work on something if time allows >=)
hushed relic
... I think it's actually gonna be super fun o.o
simple ravine
well, I am glad you'll like it
looking at the screenshot gif, it doesn't even look that useful tbh
hushed relic
btw thezensei, it's been about a year, since I've asked you about advise in terms of job decisions
simple ravine
are there outstanding deliverables from my side?
hushed relic
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do in the future, but spending a year managing, programming and slowly getting into the architecture of cloud and devops processes has done wonders for me
well, it has been good advice
simple ravine
ah, glad to hear it!
hushed relic
Just enables you to do and think in a lot of new ways
you stop thinking about many tasks as complicated and have a ton of new solutions if you wanna do something
simple ravine
my favorite advice is postpone as many decisions as possible
when it comes to architecture
grave wren
lean architecture :p?
hushed relic
Yeah, it's a good one
simple ravine
it may sound counterintuitive, but it's very effective
hushed relic
Enforces good API's/infrastructure and prevents you from doing mistakes and going too "technical" early on
it's very easy to start thinking in solutions as a developer
"what programming language"; "what technologies"
simple ravine
example: You know you need a distributed "eventing thing". Leave it at that, unless you really need implementation details. Kafka? Spark? Azure Event Hubs? Service Bus? Storage Queues? Does it matter? take those decisions later, when you know as much as you can
exactly
I think sticking with architecture for a while is a good decision though, especially if you enjoy it.
On that note, I have a meeting tomorrow, and one on wednesday
headhunters have found my phone number, and some have made some compelling cases
doesn't hurt to take a meeting i guess
grave wren
gl
simple ravine
ty
grave wren
i should start looking soon as well, kinda annoyed by a lot of little things at current company
simple ravine
had a meeting before vacation, the recruiter was quite nervous lol
i'm n a good position right now, not "actively applying", but more "open to suggestions"
grave wren
i am annoyed by lots of little things happening where the company could do so much better
they introduced a guild concept to invest 20% of your time for things that will benefit the company
but actually starting a fucking guild is atrocious
simple ravine
well, same thing here as well, but i try to just stay "above it" as much as possible
grave wren
we spent 50h trying to do it
simple ravine
sounds like google-copy-catting 10 years too late?
grave wren
basically
with lots of catch-22s
they want us to innovate but micromanage all the shit
and wonder why nobody bothers doing it
simple ravine
what's the company size?
grave wren
200ish people but we're basically two companies so double that +-
at my location we're 100
grave wren
problem is the OG founders want to micromanage a lot
delicate ore
grave wren
one guy we went to talking about that guild (cloud stuff actually) first told us we just need to get the go from our PMs to allocate our time slots
we did that
afterwards he told us he needed more input and demands more info while saying before he doesnt care about the content
stuff like that is just annoying as fuck
simple ravine
what was your idea?
grave wren
we wanted to check which projects have which kind of experience with the cloud and then find ways to improve that for new projects
so basic stuff
simple ravine
why not just try to innovate something on the cloud?
grave wren
it's about the basic tech
simple ravine
inspire