#tooldev-general | Path of Exile 1 & 2 | Page 89

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 11:58 AM

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we can try both

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:00 PM

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would be an interesting comparison

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I don't have your implementation though, @chrome topaz

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would need something to compare with

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 12:01 PM

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So if I had 75 proxies I could scrape an entire ladder instantly correct? ||/S||

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:02 PM

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|| maybe ||

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Just asking for a friend 😰

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Nah I don't have the bandwidth for that shit

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Gotta chug away like a good honest boy

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2 requests every 5 seconds 😌

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 12:04 PM

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I'm in UK scotland, requests to the stash API have a Time To First Byte of 2.5 seconds ... 😢 thezensei as you said I need to be closer to the servers isnt it ? 😢

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

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TTFB is not much dependent on location.

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That's just them being slow right now

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Oh ok

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

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For throughput, distance to server matters.

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 12:06 PM

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So that means no one can keep up with the fresh data with such high TTFB on the regular way (like 1 req / sec single threaded)

violet path Jun 18, 2019, 12:11 PM

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operation openarl is still possible

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 12:12 PM

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A rootkit but instead of being malicious it just extends the functionality of the api

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:12 PM

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@simple ravine just use the example on github

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:12 PM

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infecting my computer with go?

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:15 PM

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https://github.com/Tencent/rapidjson/blob/master/example/condense/condense.cpp

GitHub

Tencent/rapidjson

A fast JSON parser/generator for C++ with both SAX/DOM style API - Tencent/rapidjson

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C++

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:17 PM

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oh

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yeah, unsure if I can beat a C++ implementation

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but I could come fairly close

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the 25ms, on what hardware?

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also, are you saturating fields/properties on an object with that, or is it just lazy-parsing?

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:26 PM

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not sure what you mean by saturating

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

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do you deserialize to a proper object

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

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apparently there are even faster ones these days https://chadaustin.me/2017/05/writing-a-really-really-fast-json-parser/

Chad Austin

Writing a Fast JSON Parser

Several holidays ago, I got a bee in my bonnet and wrote a fast JSON parser whose parsed AST fits in a single contiguous block of memory. The code was small and simple and the performance was generally on-par with RapidJSON, so I stopped and moved on with my life.

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not to my c++ object

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it has it's own Document and I convert by hand from that

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

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just so we're testing the same thing

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so what is "included" in those 25 ms

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:28 PM

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parsing into a dom tree

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http://rapidjson.org/md_doc_tutorial.html

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"document.Parse(json);" this part

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:29 PM

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ah ok

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:34 PM

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the hardware is epyc 7401p

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which is pretty slow single thread

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:42 PM

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37ms

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initial tests

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file size: 5,508 KB

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📎 stash-test.json

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

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that's impressive

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what library is that?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

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System.Text.Json
.NET Core 3.0 preview

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built in

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I got it down to 26.21ms

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I could optimize further, probably

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📎 unknown.png

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24.87ms...

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haven't even added AOT stuff yet

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 12:59 PM

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parsing the same document over and over again probably isn't very representative though, is it?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 1:00 PM

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I could try to grab more json files later, but I think it's fairly representative

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especially if I do AOT instead of JIT

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 1:00 PM

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sure

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 1:01 PM

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fastest for Go I had is 38217350 ns/op with jsoniter.ConfigFastest

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 1:01 PM

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but the golden goose in this is Span<T> which was introduced in .NET Core 2.1

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mind you, also - at this point, I have a fully deserialized object

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 1:03 PM

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hopefully the same I copy pasted the schema from another repo https://pastebin.com/X2DHsDXg

Pastebin

package main import ( "encoding/json" "io/ioutil" "testin...

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 1:07 PM

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@simple ravine now what's your hardware?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Actually I was wrong. The fully deserialized to object got slower, 100ms

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but the JsonDocument one still remains true at 37ms

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i7 7700K - 4.2 Ghz, 32 GB DDR4 RAM

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 1:09 PM

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but is it lazy?

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yeah that's reasonably faster than my epyc, anyway we'd need to test both on same hw to be fair

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 1:10 PM

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the 100ms is not lazy, that's eager

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but I'm also having a few apps running on this machine, on windows

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I could compile it to a linux variant for you, but meh

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Well with go it'd be so easy ... :p

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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I mean the 37ms one

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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not sure, this one's spanking new and haven't looked under the hood to be honest

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@chrome topaz if you are interested, there's some info here: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/try-the-new-system-text-json-apis/

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 2:18 PM

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ya anything .Net Core 3 is blazing fast

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it's crazy the performance they're getting out of it

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some APIs are are literally 6 times faster than the older version they're replacing

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:19 PM

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yeah (some even faster than x6)

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Tanner Gooding (and a couple of others) from Microsoft .net team is on the C# discord

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he's crazy good with perf stuff... went down to hardware intrinsic stuff, and how the processor architecture work under the hood with uops etc

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 2:26 PM

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good grief

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pathofexile.com/trade is delayed like 10 min again

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actually more like 20

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priced my helm when I woke up at the top of the hour

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just not showed up

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:28 PM

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ooff

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I thought new servers were supposed to fix that

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 2:32 PM

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We require more vespine gas

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:34 PM

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let's create our private place so the conspiracy theorists can have one right trollface

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with api access and all

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is the character window stuff also delayed? hmm

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i have an idea

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:35 PM

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lol

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still have to trade the items

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:35 PM

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sure, but what if I crated an indexer, for private access

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:35 PM

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x-rate-limit-account    45:60:60,240:240:900
x-rate-limit-account-state    1:60:0,1:240:0

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:35 PM

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sure

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:36 PM

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slow as shit

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trust me

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:36 PM

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but what if I created an agent application that would send your stuff

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to my server

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based on what you've priced, using the character window data

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you install it, and it's very clear what it'd do of course

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:36 PM

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can we make it decentralized?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:36 PM

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block-chain it!

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 2:37 PM

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wanted to make a thing like it for a group selffound so go ahead so i dont have to do it!

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:p

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then i realized official trading allows priv leagues

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:37 PM

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It shouldn't be too hard

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 2:37 PM

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and i abandoned it

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:37 PM

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oh, that is cool

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just shows the leagues you are in?

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yes

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thats what made me think it doesnt exist

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because i didnt have one back then

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:38 PM

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installing 2019 preview to see how fast the parser is haha

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in .net core 2.1 parsing ~1.5mb with newtonsoft.json takes ~20ms

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:47 PM

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I pasted the file I used Emmitt if you wanna try and compare

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I can also post the code I used, so you can baseline with your hardware

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:48 PM

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sure, if you want. I have a simple stash parser somewhere

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:49 PM

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yeah I was looking for mine that I made before, but I couldn't find it

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I didn't look very hard

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I made like 5 different iterations on the ggpk and dat parser stuff, and some other stuff inbetween

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and I think it was like over a year ago if not more since i was dabbling with the stash data

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or well, before the delay was introduced

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Yeah, I have one from some time ago as well. There were a lot of fields added since then

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Mostly bools, so it wasn't too bad

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:51 PM

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ugh yeah, but no breaking changes in the structure right?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Na

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:51 PM

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if you want a fresher preview of .net core 3.0, there's a daily build for preview 7 here: https://github.com/dotnet/core-sdk/blob/master/README.md#installers-and-binaries

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Just additions from what I could tell

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Had to install the preview vs 2019

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Didn't have it

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:52 PM

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yeah, it think u need to install .net core 3 separately iirc

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Yep, I have preview 6

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 2:53 PM

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also, new stuff has wpf designer for .net core 3 🎉

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Here's the file I used: https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/175290321695932416/590522319793815552

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 2:57 PM

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oh god white visual studio

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:01 PM

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emmitt saved my eyes

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:02 PM

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lol, I had a presentation at work, and was showing some code on the projector

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white works best then.

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then I closed my laptop and went home, opened visual studio

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and got flashbanged.

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apparently, it syncs.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Yeah

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was also giving a presentation haha

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was really confused why it was white all of the sudden

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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i presentation mode myself in intellij because dumbass me thought ctrl+alt+p was a wise hotkey choice

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it always is

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according to reddit

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competition blocked by xyz

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heard the news here first

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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@simple ravine 42ms on average to parse that file

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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yes. its basically public knowledge now (memeing around :p)

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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that's pretty damn good

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using newton or system.text.json?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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System.Text.Json

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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JsonDocument.Parse(...)?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:15 PM

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JsonSerializer

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I will do document

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also, ran at like 20mb of memory

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:16 PM

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right, what models did you use?

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i'd like to try the same, but can't find mine

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wanna share?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:16 PM

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project is pretty shit haha

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yeah, one sec

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ok, so newtonsoft is at 250ms on average haha

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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LUL

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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although, it doesn't take in a span<byte>

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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what version?

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I thought newtonsoft did a new impl using span<T>

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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newtonsoft won't move to Span, according to himself

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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12.0.2

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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aww

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then it'll always suck

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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hence why they made the new System.Text.Json

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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ya

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installing VS2019 now!

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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hehe, i'm converting more and more people by the day

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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meh, I'd been meaning to

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just kept forgetting

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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i had a member in lifting discord who's also a dev, he was still on 2015

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i threatened to demote his ass

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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lol

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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blasphemy.

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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the difference between 2015 and 2017 was huge

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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you want the types or the whole project?

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I have been on 2019 for a while

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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2017 was the major turnaround for the MS dev team

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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whatever is most convenient for u

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2019's performance gains are also nice

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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ya

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just wish they'd make a new unit test executor

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moreover, new UI

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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i think it works alright, tbh

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they did some changes to it

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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I'll look at it

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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but yeah, could need some more love

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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wow not even programming in borland c++ builder 1999

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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it's the reason I've used resharper all these years

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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not even a real dev :^)

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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borland, makes me think of pascal back in the days

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where you could inline asm directly

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:22 PM

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installing 2019 on my home system marks the beginning of the end of 2017 at work

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I'm going to get used to 2019 and make everyone else upgrade at work

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:22 PM

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📎 PoE.Trade.API.zip

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:22 PM

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thanks emmitt

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:23 PM

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ye

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:23 PM

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when i called and congratulated my father on his birthday the other day, i asked if he recalled when i started programming

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we concluded it was about 25 years ago.

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back then we didn't have visual studio 😂

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I started when I was 10

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using AppleScript

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lollll

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guess that was 22 years ago

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:23 PM

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thinking how far we've gotten, or how far we should've gotten perhaps

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I start about 13 years ago

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:24 PM

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what did you start with emmitt?

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mine was quickbasic in dos

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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haha I started on the web

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DreamWeaver then moved to really website stuff php, js, mysql

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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ah

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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ah DreamWeaver

hazy fog Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I started with visual basic 6

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I was making a very shitty online game haha

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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brief look at jass and then c in school

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\o/

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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let me see if I can't find some screenshots

hazy fog Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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then I made the church website in frontpage

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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my dad is a ColdFusion web dev

hazy fog Jun 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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dreamweaver pfft

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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now it's so niche

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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i was interviewing someone a couple of years ago

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said he was using dreamweaver

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... he didn't get the job

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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on windows ME?

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yes, mostly legacy code

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I think it is to some extent.. but hey, Java is also still used

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runs and hides

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:27 PM

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thankfully my dad got a job that's split between maintaining CF and new work using javascript/angular

grave wren Jun 18, 2019, 3:27 PM

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yeah lets turn off all java software and check how nice your stuff still runs :p

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 3:27 PM

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so he's learning new stuff to go with his old stuff

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@mortal bone did the serializer saturate the properties properly with your PascalCased names?

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otherwise, you likely have misinformed numbers

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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oh shit

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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the more neutral one would likely be pasing a JObject and use JsonDocument

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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I didn't think about that

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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and compare

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yeah, rip

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does system.text.json not have json property?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:33 PM

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it has some namingconvention thing, but i dont think it has attributes yet... it's spanking fresh

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going minimum viable product style with it

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|          Method |      Mean |     Error |    StdDev |
|---------------- |----------:|----------:|----------:|
| UseJsonDocument |  37.73 ms | 0.5268 ms | 0.4928 ms |
|   UseNewtonSoft | 287.52 ms | 1.4175 ms | 1.3260 ms |

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:36 PM

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[JsonPropertyName()] instead of [JsonProperty()]

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works

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~263ms with JsonSerializer fully saturated

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:40 PM

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one-off?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:41 PM

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100 iterations

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a couple times now

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:41 PM

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damn thats not awesome

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wonder if you can change the strings to Memory<byte> or Memory<char> and working

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Yeah, it is the same. JsonDocument is fast as hell though

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Do you have one that is smaller than 1MB?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:43 PM

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No, I have skill trees though

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I think you will see greater differences when it doesnt have to go outside of the ArrayPool which is 1MB

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could try yea

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I can. They are a bit of a pain because I had to write a serialize for them

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not all the types in the object are the same

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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ooff

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Actually, I can serialize them all with newton and dump the clean files out

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 3:49 PM

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May be of interest here.. I did a little writeup of how PoB Item Tester works. It's an AutoHotKey script that drives Path of Building as if it were a headless program with a whole mock UI framework. Kinda crazy the amount of hackery, I'm impressed. https://nelsonslog.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/how-pob-item-tester-works/

Nelson's log

nelsonminar

How PoB Item Tester works

I’ve been obsessed with the Diablo-like game Path of Exile for the past few months. Great game. For the code nerd in me, I’ve been fascinated by how the community has created a bunch of…

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(TIL all of Path of Building is in Lua. That is remarkable.)

ornate gale Jun 18, 2019, 3:50 PM

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holy crap

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I thought about throwing something together like this, maybe even try to bundle it in a browser extension

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now that I look at his repo.. glad I didnt even start. templarLul

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I admit if I were faced with the problem of "mock out the UI for Path of Building so you could run it headless and script it" I'd just turn my computer off and go for a walk into the sea.

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I tried getting the headless thing to work that Openarl put in there, but I couldn't get it to work in the alotted time I gave it

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I think rasmuskl did

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Oh does PoB have official support for this headless stuff? This mock UI thing looked pretty hacky

ornate gale Jun 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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for the web version maybe ?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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yeah, not documented when I looked though

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@mortal bone trying to parse with ur model, im getting: System.Text.Json.JsonException: The JSON value could not be converted to System.String. Path: $.stashes[0].items[0].properties[0].values[0][1] | LineNumber: 0 | BytePositionInLine: 940.

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did u get that too?

ornate gale Jun 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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the DPS search blows my mind though shock

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Yeah, because there system.text.json won't convert ints to strings or strings to ints

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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ffs

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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you will have to change it to object[][]

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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object it is

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Yeah

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Super annoying because newtonsoft will attempt type conversions

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Gimiz, you mean in PoB item tester? it reminds me of the old calculators we ran in World of Warcraft where you'd boil all the stats on an item down to one number. "DPS points" or "Tank points" or whatever.

ornate gale Jun 18, 2019, 3:57 PM

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talking about the integration with gw2crafts.net

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:57 PM

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I think there is a way to make it do it in system.text.json too, but it's opt-in

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|               Method |      Mean |     Error |    StdDev |
|--------------------- |----------:|----------:|----------:|
|   SimpleJsonDocument |  37.98 ms | 0.6291 ms | 0.5885 ms |
|     SimpleNewtonSoft | 244.70 ms | 2.4210 ms | 2.2646 ms |
| PropertiesNewtonSoft | 106.64 ms | 0.3844 ms | 0.3408 ms |
| PropertiesSystemJson | 140.83 ms | 1.3462 ms | 1.2593 ms |

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wait what, system.text was slower on mine

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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yeah that, Gimiz. it's great. I keep looking for ways to tell me if an item is good or crap, this kind of calculation is a big help in simplifying things.

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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I renamed the properties on mine though

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 3:59 PM

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JsonSerializer.Parse(bytes, typeof(Models.SkillTree))
3.7.0
    File Size    : 1568kb
    Parse Time   : 39.14
    Iterations   : 100

JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<Models.SkillTree>(bytes)
3.7.0
    File Size    : 1568kb
    Parse Time   : 63.8
    Iterations   : 100

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I think it's slightly faster if you do JsonSerializer.Parse<TypeHere>(json);

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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36.95ms

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with that change

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 4:03 PM

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im just annoyed that it's slower than newtonsoft for these big ones

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 4:04 PM

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JsonSerializer.Parse<Models.SkillTree>(bytes)
1.0.0
    File Size    : 952kb
    Parse Time   : 23.41
    Iterations   : 100

JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<Models.SkillTree>(bytes)
1.0.0
    File Size    : 952kb
    Parse Time   : 37.33
    Iterations   : 100

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much faster on small files

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I was expecting a little faster tbh

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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It could be the Attribute conversion tbh

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don't really want to rip that out haha

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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hehe

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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|               Method |     Mean |     Error |    StdDev |
|--------------------- |---------:|----------:|----------:|
| PropertiesNewtonSoft | 35.42 ms | 0.2903 ms | 0.2715 ms |
| PropertiesSystemJson | 28.26 ms | 0.0773 ms | 0.0646 ms |

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so if I remove the Items[] and just take the base stash stuff, that's the result

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it's clear the reflections are the culprit.

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Whoever designed .tsi files hates me. So many fields, starting to get a feeling they invent new ones out of spite 😃

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pets uncle HashMap

hazy fog Jun 18, 2019, 4:40 PM

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AkkoLewd

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Was going through all the files, adding fields as I went. Flipped the table when I ran into Environment[1-7], at which point pretty much all the 33 fields were optional.

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No point in having an actual struct when nothing's guaranteed.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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That is pretty much everything in the data files

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just so many extra fields

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 5:44 PM

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@chrome topaz currently all the stash grabs are at max size yeah?

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:07 PM

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26.54 ms using Emmitt code but this schema https://app.quicktype.io?share=ZRRL70e2y5LVV1U0bRkX (i think i'm missing some fields tho)

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:10 PM

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which file did you use?

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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the stash-test.json

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damn, i might be doing something wrong but .net is fast tho

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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wonder why I am getting like 100ms then

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are you running your go thing in a debugger, perhaps?

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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github.com/chneau/poe-bench-cs

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if you wanna try

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just doing dotnet run at the base of the project (I installed .net sdk but not a fan (more like a noob) of VS BUT using VScode so far so good)

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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ah that's my code 😂

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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ha okok xD

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

but you have an issue

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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please tell me sensei 😵

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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you need to replace all the [JsonProperty(...)] with [JsonPropertyName(...)]

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because now it won't fill the properties

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you should get around ~100ms

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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mhm do i need to import something ? just renaming rise an error 'JsonPropertyName' could not be found

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^ that's why i need to use VS haha...

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Yeah, you need the VS 2019 Preview to run .net core 3.0

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shouldn't say need haha

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 6:24 PM

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.NET Core SDK (3.0.100-preview6-012264) that's the famous preview7 I need isnt it ?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I was using preview6

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preview7 you need to grab from repo

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https://github.com/dotnet/core-sdk/blob/master/README.md#installers-and-binaries

GitHub

dotnet/core-sdk

.NET Core SDK Setup. Contribute to dotnet/core-sdk development by creating an account on GitHub.

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 6:34 PM

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what's new in preview 7 vs 6?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:47 PM

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unsure

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you can use preview6 as well

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I was trying to get the tree shaking linker to work with preview6 and it borked for some reason, so installed 7

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I don't even see preview 7 on the github

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did you just pull from the repo?

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or is there an installer package

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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that's preview 7.. really small font

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 6:56 PM

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https://github.com/dotnet/core/tree/master/release-notes/3.0/preview

GitHub

dotnet/core

Home repository for .NET Core. Contribute to dotnet/core development by creating an account on GitHub.

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ohhhh diff repo

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core-sdk, not core

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so it's just trunk, not an official release yet

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

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correct

wind garden Jun 18, 2019, 7:09 PM

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i've never undrestood why wpf never included a NumericUpDown control

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 7:09 PM

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yeah, there are some things u wish they had built in

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Anyone know why Item.Property.Values have List<List<Object>> and not a more specific type?

#

Looking at the JSON, I can only see similar to this:

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{
    "name": "Level",
    "values": [
        [
            "75",
            0
        ]
    ],
    "displayMode": 0
}

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I never see any Values with more than 1 element in them, and in turn 2 values, 1 string and 1 int

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 7:37 PM

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That is one of the most frustrating fields

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I know how to do it in Newtonsoft haha

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I mean, have you seen any values where it's 2 elements or more in the top level of .Values?

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otherwise I could simplify it by hand

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I haven't

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Although, I don't mess with that stuff very often

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 7:39 PM

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and the inner-most seems to have a pair, always

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Yeah, the inner pair is always a string int

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 7:40 PM

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@polar island / @chrome topaz, perhaps?

#

in the inner or the outer?

#

I'm seeing this:

{
    "name": "Elemental Damage",
    "values": [
        [
            "44-88",
            5
        ]
    ],
    "displayMode": 0,
    "type": 10
}

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it's still just 1 element, and then 1 element

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ah I found one

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{
    "name": "Elemental Damage",
    "values": [
        [
            "40-68",
            4
        ],
        [
            "11-223",
            6
        ]
    ],
    "displayMode": 0,
    "type": 10
}

#

well, those numbers... would be nice to have some documentation on this *cough*

#

hmm, any idea of the "type" on the property itself? there don't seem to be any information on that one yet

#

I assume that has to do with the color you mentioned?

#

hm ok

cursive ferry Jun 18, 2019, 8:42 PM

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160ms with JsonConvert.DeserializeObject but these weird ["40-68", 4] things are working

#

before deserialisation 5593597 after serialisation 5573650 :/

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Just pull the next one immediately?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Yeah, I would just read enough bytes to get the changeset id then start the next request.

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:16 PM

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160ms more or less, I mean... I think there are other bottlenecks

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

Custom                         39.606
System.Text                   129.984

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got one that's a bit faster, so you can initially get the next_change_id quicker

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trade-off being you process the actual items a little slower afterwards

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@simple ravine Thread it off 😛

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

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exactly

#

https://gist.github.com/andreandersen/84ac9475995c16def27c7649674f6f93

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this was pure masochism to write

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 9:35 PM

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lol that thanks comment

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they aren't even my models anymore

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:35 PM

#

o well

#

your copy/paste

#

whatever lol

#

and then just

        private static void ParseCustom(string str)
        {
            var d = JsonDocument.Parse(str);
            JsonElement r = d.RootElement;
            
            var s = new N.StashTabChangeset(in r);
        }

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I wouldn't bother though, too much code to maintain

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Yeah, that is pretty gross

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That is way more complicated than Newtonsofts custom parsing stuff

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:38 PM

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well, depends if you want to transform it into something more usable than the stored stuff immediately or offload it to something else later

#

I'm gonna try Jil

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 9:40 PM

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isn't c# PascalCase for public and camelCase for private 👀

#

im getting triggered

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:40 PM

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yeah it is, I just tried to optimize the attribute usage away

#

weren't much gain there either

#

I would clean that up again

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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its okay im a filthy nodejser anyway

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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eww

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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😌

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Yeah, that is why I can JsonProperty tags on the one I sent here

#

although, I tend to prefix privates with _ because work

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 9:46 PM

#

are there any command line parameters for running pob?

#

I want to generate a pob build string from a character url

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 9:47 PM

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There is a headless version

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Yeah I saw that I was just making sure I wasn't missing an easy solution before I went spelunking through a bunch of lua code

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@fossil epoch linked a blog post about testing items earlier: https://nelsonslog.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/how-pob-item-tester-works/

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:51 PM

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there's also this https://github.com/VolatilePulse/PoB-Item-Tester

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Oooo thanks these look helpful

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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same guy

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 9:54 PM

#

oh

#

There's also: https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/blob/master/HeadlessWrapper.lua

#

which this guy didn't use I think

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 9:59 PM

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hrm, using that with a browser extension would be nifty. embed the results for each item in the trade page. possibly add some sort features

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I need to implemented the picking of what nodes are what under when in the timeless radius, but you can atleast share some information about jewels

#

I need to work on the URLs because they are a tad bit large

#

http://poeskilltree.com/

#

Regular1 are replaced for Templar/Eternal and Regular2 are replaced for Eternal as well as the keystones

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 10:07 PM

#

FWIW both versions of headless POB code we're talking about seem to be the same code origin. They both work by invoking POB Lua directly, ie they assume you're already running in a Lua VM. No reason you couldn't make a standalone program do that though and the interface to it externally from your favorite web server scripting language, etc.

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Emmitt, you're a smart guy. Figure out how to use PoB from C#!

#

using HeadlessWrapper.lua

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Nlua

#

I do belive

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

#

yeah, i found that as well... but i have no idea how that'd work

#

i tried before, with no luck

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

#

I think you would write a wrapper for the wrapper and use that

#

implement the functions straight across

#

no idea

#

I haven't ever used lua in c#

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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yeah ill probably just write some lua

#

its such a nice language anyway~

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:12 PM

#

anyone know of a good way to shorten urls with a db?

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 10:13 PM

#

https://www.educative.io/collection/page/5668639101419520/5649050225344512/5668600916475904 all you could ever want to know about that subject

Educative: Interactive Courses for Software Developers

Designing a URL Shortening service like TinyURL

Let's design a URL shortening service like TinyURL. This service will provide short aliases redirecting to long URLs. Similar services: bit.ly, goo.gl, qlink.me, etc.Difficulty Level: Easy

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:19 PM

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damn, I mistyped that so hard haha

#

meant without a db

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 10:20 PM

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welp

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:20 PM

#

good read though

#

I will probably just use tinyurl or something

#

a big ass url

#

https://gist.github.com/EmmittJ/9178a76beac974ffe704ee9b6e47362b

#

that is what they currently look like

#

Yeah, it is a lot of data

#

rip

#

I use FF

#

the website is very fast lol

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 10:25 PM

#

fwiw @mortal bone that data is literally base 64 encoded JSON. if you decode it, gzip, and re-encode it base 64 it gets to about 1000 bytes. that will fit as a URL in most modern systems but it's kinda awkward.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Yeah, it is just a straight encoding

#

I could also stripe out a lot of data

#

probably

fossil epoch Jun 18, 2019, 10:30 PM

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(TIL there are exactly 66 characters safe to use in URLs. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.3)

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Yeah, I am going to end up using lz-string I think

#

I could always try and minify the object that I am encoding

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 10:34 PM

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dont click on that it makes mustard gas

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:34 PM

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flatten it out I mean

#

yeah, for skill tree urls you can to replace + with - and \ with _ when encoding

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 10:37 PM

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@polar island I like how your URL spells out "NEWLAD" in the middle.

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 10:37 PM

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damn poeapp looks great

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:37 PM

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it is a special string in every url lol

#

http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DArt/SkillIcons/passives/VaalNotableOffensive.png

#

you talking like that?

#

oh, I see

#

nvm

#

I don't think they are hosted

#

I would use pypoe

#

It reads from a ggpk in a local directory as far as I know

#

Ah, I don't know then.

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Can't help you there, I just traverse the GGPK offline.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:43 PM

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lz-string is ugly as hell, but a lot better than 2.5k characters lol down to ~800

#

Yeah

#

~175 characters lol

#

~1k with a full build. The major problem is I have to store the tree url

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 10:55 PM

#

wow this is a lot of discussion to scroll through to find my mentions

#

@distant rock our OAuth only supports the /api/profile API at the moment so it still won't be of use to you guys. I'm looking into extending it but it's not high priority atm

#

@velvet fog challenges information probably not, depth and depth solo sure

#

@fickle yew I'd have to test to make sure including that information doesn't slow it down too much, currently we don't hit the web DB when caching the ladder

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:02 PM

#

Good morning Novynn

#

😊

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:02 PM

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hi synnro

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:02 PM

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It is very cold this morning.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Like it has been like 27c here

#

Good luck with your winter

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

This one's pretty handy, Novynn

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

Should have pinged him haha

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

I've been cruel enough with pings today 😂

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:07 PM

#

oh wow I always just type in "mentions:Novynn#0001" into the search bar 🤦

#

haha there's a button for it of course!

#

I want to get back into C# with all this cool C# discussion

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:07 PM

#

hehe, we learn something new everyday

#

It's certainly a good time to pick it up, with all the good things happening to .NET Core (and with .NET 5 consolidating them both soon-ish)

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

it might be a good candidate for multithreading the stash API pull for the trade site

#

currently that stuff is a single threaded PHP script 😅

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

certainly

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

#

Yeah, definitely

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

#

C# makes threading much easier than most languages/frameworks

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

if you target linux does it have to pull in a bunch of libraries to function? Or can you bundle them into a single executable

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/linux-prerequisites?tabs=netcore2x

Prerequisites for .NET Core on Linux

Supported Linux versions and .NET Core dependencies to develop, deploy, and run .NET Core applications on Linux machines.

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

you do dotnet publish -r linux-x64 -c Release --self-contained

#

this way, you get a larger publish, but you don't need any prerequisites (afaik)

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:14 PM

#

Yeah, it rolls all the prereqs in

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:14 PM

#

looks perfect

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:14 PM

#

I would also look at doing .NET core 3, rather than 2, as it'll be stable this fall

#

for a bit more heavy-duty data ETL stuff, I would recommend looking a bit into .NET TPL stuff, an unsung hero for these kind of things

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

#

I wish there were webhooks for stuff like accounts joining a guild 😩

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:20 PM

#

I wish there were better officer role stuff. Hopefully that's something coming one day

#

Today, an officer is only capable of inviting people, that's it.

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:22 PM

#

well yeah, but that's off-topic wishful thinking 😂

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 11:30 PM

#

@simple ravine Move to NZ, solve all GGG's problems.

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:30 PM

#

I don't think that's an option with work visas etc

#

but I could do it remote, for sure

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 11:31 PM

#

Aren't they easier to set up if it's for a specialized role that can't be sourced domestically much?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:31 PM

#

hmm, maybe

#

what about fiance and kid?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

#

I asked about working remote, and bex said they don't allow it :(

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

#

uh, it's 2019, not 1989

worthy cape Jun 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

#

I could see having kids and roots kind of being a hamper.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

#

Was going to apply for the web dev job, but I can't move

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

#

working remote is how leaks happen tbh

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:33 PM

#

Erm

#

What

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:33 PM

#

I don't think I agree with that

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:33 PM

#

I don't agree with that at all

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:33 PM

#

I am not saying it's guaranteed to happen but it does open a huge area of attack

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:33 PM

#

I work remote a lot, and I have no work data on my personal pc

#

2FA VPN + Remote Desktop

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:34 PM

#

yeah there's proper ways of doing it

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 PM

#

I don't want to RDP from Sweden to NZ LUL

#

aint gonna happen

chrome topaz Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 PM

#

but if you work remote and leak stuff they can't personally beat you up

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 PM

#

Yeah, I rdp a very small distance, and I don't really notice it much

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 PM

#

tfw live in nz but don't want to live in auckland

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 PM

#

Commute?

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

I wouldn't want to 'step down' to being a regular dev again though.

#

that sounded condesending now that i read it

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

the longest RDP I've done for work is MA to TX, it worked pretty well

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

I RDP from home and it lags

#

I need fibre :(

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

wtf how do you not have fibre

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

I have fiber

#

It is nice

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:37 PM

#

it would hurt to lose my connection for sure

#

it's like when u move from 60hz to something better

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:37 PM

#

dealing with home owners is painful

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:37 PM

#

oh right

#

that's bizzare though

#

isn't it literally free to install?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:37 PM

#

" I don't want to pay for something 10x better because I don't use it"

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:37 PM

#

yup

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

like chorus just rock up to your house and shove it in

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

HOA... I am sorry

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

also raises your property value

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

Oh, wait wut

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

yep

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

It is free to have installed?

compact isle Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

in NZ yeah

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

oh wow

#

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

Damn, we are still paying on a bond they passed for it

frigid nova Jun 18, 2019, 11:39 PM

#

Where you based out of Emmitt?

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:39 PM

#

Oregon

#

United States

frigid nova Jun 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

#

oh nice, most of the tech is concentrated in portland?

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

#

I dunno I'm also not a great programmer so that's the real reason 😂

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

#

Yeah, all the tech is in Portland

#

Which sucks because I am a good 1hr-1.5hrs away with traffic

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

didn't portland do municipal fiber? or was that just something they were looking at

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

My current road trip to work, if I go in, is 104 miles

frigid nova Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

hotdamn

gilded herald Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

about the same here

#

I feel your pain.

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

I dont think Portland passed the bill

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

that's a shame

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:42 PM

#

I have 5 minutes to the office, but I still work from home a couple of days a week

gilded herald Jun 18, 2019, 11:42 PM

#

luckily im fully remote, 5 mins away sounds a bit too close

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:43 PM

#

Yeah, I work mostly remote now

#

Go in like once or twice a month

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

I go to customer meetings, gather requirements and crap, then I go home and draw boxes with lines between them, and write things. Sometimes I write some code.

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

I don't know how you do it. I worked remotely for 4-5 years and hated it

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

No need for RDP or things like that fortunately

golden yacht Jun 18, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

See this is why I'm a bad programmer. I draw circles with lines between them 😠

frigid nova Jun 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

🤣

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

Squares are easier to get right, for sure

mortal bone Jun 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

Working remote is nice. I don't have to put in 40hrs if I don't have the work

#

In the office you have to look busy

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

I always had a problem with separating work from home. even a dedicated office didn't really help

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

At home I have bigger screen estate, it's quiet and I get things done easier

#

No colleagues asking questions how to do things 😂

fathom spruce Jun 18, 2019, 11:46 PM

#

just lol if you're not hounded on slack with questions

cosmic saffron Jun 18, 2019, 11:49 PM

#

some people even rent dedicated working spaces

simple ravine Jun 18, 2019, 11:51 PM

#

I was nagged by a dev today about Azure KeyVault

#

but it was a little trickier one, because he couldn't add the app he added Managed Identity Service, but he couldn't find it when adding to the Security Principles as he didn't have read rights to Azure AD

#

had to show him to do it through CLI instead

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 12:32 AM

#

can you programmatically write to a .net core appsettings.json?

#

or is it meant to be read-only?

mortal bone Jun 19, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

I know you can can add a json file to the config builder and do your configs that way

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

with the built in JsonConfigurationProvider? no

#

you can write your own that implements saving tho

mortal bone Jun 19, 2019, 12:48 AM

#

Yeah, the default won't write if you update the config

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

#

https://github.com/aspnet/Extensions/blob/master/src/Configuration/Config.Json/src/JsonConfigurationProvider.cs

GitHub

aspnet/Extensions

.NET APIs for commonly used programming patterns and utilities, such as dependency injection, logging, and configuration. - aspnet/Extensions

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copy that and override Set(string key, string value)

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alternatively add your own saving functionality and call it whenever /shrug

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Is it for a desktop app?

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 12:53 AM

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I just wrote a Save/SaveAsync method that writes to the appsettings.json

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using the shiny new JsonSerializer

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 12:56 AM

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If it's a desktop app, you should probably separate user settings and app config, and store the information in C:\Users\username\AppData...

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/io/how-to-read-and-write-to-files-in-isolated-storage

How to: Read and Write to Files in Isolated Storage

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 1:02 AM

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nice I'll try that

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since .net core 3 supports wpf

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what do you do if you want to write a wpf library?

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.net standard doesn't support wpf right?

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 1:04 AM

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.net standard is agnostic, so yeah

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 1:04 AM

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is it possible to make a .net core library?

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 1:04 AM

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yes

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 1:05 AM

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oh sweet, output type library

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lol

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so simple

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popular wpf framework libraries haven't been build yet for .net core 3

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gotta download them from source and rebuild them targeting .net core

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 1:08 AM

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so when wpf comes to .net core does that mean it's gonna work on linux?

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 1:08 AM

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no

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you sacrifice portability when you use wpf in .net core 3

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but you gain all of the performance improvements of .net core

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 1:08 AM

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that's unfortunate

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

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there's Avalonia though

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

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that's basically a meme at this point

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idk how many times I've heard, "There's Avalonia...."

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 1:13 AM

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linux desktop is a meme

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 1:13 AM

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only thing Avalonia has in common with wpf is xaml

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different framework, different beast

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 1:24 AM

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2019 is the year of linux desktop

rapid pagoda Jun 19, 2019, 1:25 AM

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$(( $(date +%Y) + 1 )) is the year of the linux desktop

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 1:25 AM

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even windows runs linux today

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what more do you need

rapid pagoda Jun 19, 2019, 1:30 AM

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WSL: Linux on the desktop, but not the way anybody expected it to happen

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 1:32 AM

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I like how one of the videos has an anime picture in the background

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they know their target audience well

fossil epoch Jun 19, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Ya know, this is a pretty good little Discord channel community. TY>

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 3:36 AM

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yessss.....just about finished converting my WPF app to .Net Core 3

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most of the work is converting from WCF to...not....WCF

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trying out gRPC.Net

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 3:40 AM

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rip WCF

rapid pagoda Jun 19, 2019, 3:40 AM

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you .NET people will probably all explode when you hear what language my GGPK toolchain is written in 😛

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 3:41 AM

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php?

rapid pagoda Jun 19, 2019, 3:41 AM

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close. Perl

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 3:41 AM

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(the worst I could think of)

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oh wow

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Perl isn't that bad, it just requires several master level degrees to understand

mortal bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Lol hope you commented that code ;)

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The only thing worse than writing Perl is reading it...

grave wren Jun 19, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Some slight amusement: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c2a4qt/private_indexers_need_to_be_perished/

r/pathofexile - Private Indexers need to be PERISHED

6 votes and 33 comments so far on Reddit

rapid pagoda Jun 19, 2019, 4:02 AM

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there are some legitimate questions to be asked about buyers who seem to be unnaturally quick to whisper offers. this, however, is not one of those questions

grave wren Jun 19, 2019, 4:02 AM

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You give some too much credit with the understand statement

mortal bone Jun 19, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Well, your delay is only as long as you can aggregate the 3 trade sites

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I don't think it would take much to write a program or a script to connect and aggregate from all the trade services

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All web sockets as far as I know

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 4:09 AM

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would explain why some people get items first, different parsing speeds on the trade sites

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not going to lie, I end up going back to poeapp from the official site this league

mortal bone Jun 19, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I don't trade too often

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I tend to use the official site

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 4:12 AM

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yeah me too. I don't have any concrete evidence but it's felt super slow vs 3rd party ones this league

mortal bone Jun 19, 2019, 4:12 AM

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The mod separation is really nice and it sucks everyone can't have that

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I sent a cake once lol

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There is a lot more people in the office now though, so rip you

rose sapphire Jun 19, 2019, 4:20 AM

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@simple ravine for 15 years it's not a meme, but a pleasure 😉 (linux desktop)

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 4:39 AM

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That thread is a gem @grave wren

fickle yew Jun 19, 2019, 5:55 AM

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@compact isle That makes sense. It's was also to save you from all my lame private requests... Also can confirm that a c# multithreaded fetcher works wonders. It's what ninja uses. Json parsing doesn't matter that much though.. I just throw it on a queue the second I fetch so it can keep on going.

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That 1 second rate limit makes it a bit more complicated though. Would be great if it was a bit longer 😉

distant rock Jun 19, 2019, 6:22 AM

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@compact isle Thanks for the response!

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Anyone here with any experience in setting the POESESSID cookie locally for .pathofexile.com? Trying to create a web-based login for Exilence but not sure how to go about it right now.

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Can't seem to set cookies in chrome this way since it violates the security

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 7:08 AM

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does anyone know how you deserialize category?

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{
    "verified": false,
    "w": 1,
    "h": 1,
    "ilvl": 0,
    "icon": "https:\/\/web.poecdn.com\/image\/Art\/2DItems\/Currency\/CurrencyModValues.png?scale=1&w=1&h=1&v=0ad99d4a2b0356a60fa8194910d80f6b",
    "league": "Legion",
    "id": "77ae4e43f5083113234fd14eaaac36d2014c2fe0cdea69d28910153af7bb77f3",
    "name": "",
    "typeLine": "Divine Orb",
    "identified": true,
    "note": "~skip ",
    "properties": [{
        "name": "Stack Size",
        "values": [["8\/10",
        0]],
        "displayMode": 0
    }],
    "explicitMods": ["Randomises the numeric values of the random modifiers on an item"],
    "descrText": "Right click this item then left click a magic, rare or unique item to apply it.",
    "frameType": 5,
    "stackSize": 8,
    "maxStackSize": 5000,
    "category": {
        "currency": []
    },
    "x": 20,
    "y": 0,
    "inventoryId": "Stash1"
}]

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I've tried this

public partial class Category
    {
        [JsonProperty("currency")]
        public object[] Currency { get; set; }
    }

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ah got it

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 7:12 AM

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    internal class Category : ICategory
    {
        [JsonProperty("maps")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Maps { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("gems")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Gems { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("flasks")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Flasks { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("Cards")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Cards { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("currency")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Currency { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("accessories")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Accessories { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("jewels")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Jewels { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("armour")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Armour { get; private set; }

        [JsonProperty("weapons")]
        public IEnumerable<string> Weapons { get; private set; }
    }

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there's a ton of categories

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 7:13 AM

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but they never have anything in them

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 7:13 AM

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unpack it as an object

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 7:13 AM

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this is what i needed

public Dictionary<string, object[]> category { get; set; }

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 7:13 AM

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        [JsonProperty("category")]
        public ICategory Category { get; private set; }

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or that :v

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 7:14 AM

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then I can query the dictionary to see what key exists

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 7:47 AM

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SHOULDA USED JS

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 8:35 AM

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@simple ravine System.Text.Json doesn't appear to be able to serialize enums as strings...

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and there's no custom converters

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:04 AM

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write your own?

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wait

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no as in System.Text.Json doesn't have that feature?

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oh my

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 9:10 AM

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ya...

grave wren Jun 19, 2019, 3:56 PM

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@hazy fog

hazy fog Jun 19, 2019, 3:56 PM

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bullyShake

gray glade Jun 19, 2019, 6:25 PM

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hi, did PoE integrated a OAuth system to login with a third-party service?

hazy fog Jun 19, 2019, 6:26 PM

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I believe so but the connection information isn't public afaik. you'd need to contact Novynn for access I believe.

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@polar island am I right

gray glade Jun 19, 2019, 6:27 PM

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because I remember using a service (I think poemap.live) and was redirected to poe's website with some sort of oauth

hazy fog Jun 19, 2019, 6:27 PM

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I was just thinking that poeapp

gray glade Jun 19, 2019, 6:27 PM

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also @polar island , do you know if they can authorize upcoming third-party services for oauth?

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or did they close/restrict the oauth api for live and production ready services only?

hazy fog Jun 19, 2019, 6:28 PM

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if you desire access to the oauth login please send your requirement and usage to roryv@grindinggear.com He is handling oauth2

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now we do

gray glade Jun 19, 2019, 6:28 PM

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thanks @hazy fog , all what I needed!

hazy fog Jun 19, 2019, 6:28 PM

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LUL but poeapp is the one who linked it

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aBlobSadPats

gray glade Jun 19, 2019, 6:29 PM

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😄

wind garden Jun 19, 2019, 7:35 PM

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.text.json.serialization.jsonattribute?view=netcore-3.0

JsonAttribute Class (System.Text.Json.Serialization)

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pretty limited...

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:28 PM

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F:\Development\LibPob\Playground\bin\Debug\netcoreapp2.2\PathOfBuilding\Modules/Common.lua:(277,1-278,83): pattern too complex

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so far, only to be stopped by jsonToLua

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 9:42 PM

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F

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:44 PM

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what you do @fathom spruce

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:44 PM

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C# bindings for PoB

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there's so many work around and hacks...

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:45 PM

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if you get it to work, please enlighten me

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:45 PM

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    -- Hack to replace jsonToLua, MoonSharp can't handle the supplied pattern
    if fileName == "Modules/Common" and PatchJsonToLua ~=nil then
        PatchJsonToLua()
    end

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:\

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:45 PM

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u using the HeadlessWrapper.lua thing?

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:45 PM

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kind of?

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there's quite a bit more to add in

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            _script.Globals["bit"] = _script.DoFile("Assets/bitops_lua/funcs.lua");
            _script.Globals["curl_shim"] = _script.DoFile("Assets/curl_shim.lua");
            _script.Globals["PatchJsonToLua"] = (Action) PatchJsonToLua;

            _script.DoFile("Assets/PreLaunch.lua");
            _script.DoFile("Launch.lua");

            _script.Globals.Get("launch").Table["CheckForUpdate"] = (Action<bool>) CheckForUpdateHook;
            _script.Globals.Get("launch").Table["DownloadPage"] = (Action<string, Closure, string>) DownloadPageHook;

            _script.DoString("RunCallback(\"OnInit\")");
            _script.DoString("RunCallback(\"OnFrame\")");

            _script.DoFile("Assets/PostLaunch.lua");

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that's my launch sequence so far

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:46 PM

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oh, I thought you just "used" HeadlessWrapper.lua and called it a day

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:46 PM

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load in bitops compatible library, stick in a curl lua shim, patch json to lua, do headless pre & post launch.lua

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also hook check for update and download page, since those don't work and need to

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:47 PM

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are you able to hook them to C# methods?

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:47 PM

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yeah

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using MoonSharp, it's a mostly complete 5.2 lua implantation completely written in .net

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:47 PM

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ooh

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:48 PM

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working my way through patching all the little problems that come up

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so far it loads all the modules and downloads the passive tree. after I fix jsonToLua not sure what else will break

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 9:48 PM

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that feeling is quite familiar yeah

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 9:51 PM

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https://git.internal.aotc.us/aotc/LibPob if you want to take a peak

Gitea: Git with a cup of tea

LibPob

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it's real rough so far. just trying to get the bugs worked out before cleaning it up

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Yeah, this is what I got stuck at before, when trying:

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MoonSharp.Interpreter.SyntaxErrorException: 'unexpected symbol near '#''

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:15 PM

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remove #@ SimpleGraphic from the top of launch.lua

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I'll eventually strip it out via the script loader. it's the only instance though

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btw, anyone familiar with lua know wtf that's supposed to do? I've literally never used the language before now

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:16 PM

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hehe me neither 😄

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:16 PM

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what what is supposed to do?

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:17 PM

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#@ SimpleGraphic

at the top of a lua file, for luajit

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Oh, I haven't used luajit just lua 😅

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:22 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Nice, it's running

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Unfortunately a bit stressed for time at the moment, so I can't help with the given problem right now

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:23 PM

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in terms of lua # is the length operator. Don't think @ is used iirc

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:23 PM

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naw, that's for jsonToLua

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moonsharp doesn't like the complexity of the gsub

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maybe you could help with this, trying to figure out how to patch the function but it's not showing up in the global table

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https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/blob/master/Modules/Common.lua#L276

the file is loaded vis

local func, err = loadfile(fileName)

GitHub

Openarl/PathOfBuilding

Offline build planner for Path of Exile. Contribute to Openarl/PathOfBuilding development by creating an account on GitHub.

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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so it's these patterns that it's complaining about, I guess:

return json:gsub("%[","{"):gsub("%]","}"):gsub('"(%d[%d%.]*)":','[%1]='):gsub('"([^"]+)":','["%1"]='):gsub("\\/","/"):gsub("{(%w+)}","{[0]=%1}")

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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yeah

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my plan was to patch jsonToLua to something in .net but I can't get a function to patch

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

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there's also something called NLua, not sure if that'd be easier or not

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:30 PM

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you'd have to use an older version of NLua, it's currently at 5.3

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:30 PM

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breaking changes?

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:30 PM

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lots

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:30 PM

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this boggles me

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breaking changes in minor versions

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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there's a post some where from the author of luajit talking about how awful 5.3 is

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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lua has breaking changes in every version

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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https://www.freelists.org/post/luajit/Port-bitop-to-53,1

Re: Port bitop to 5.3?, luajit at FreeLists

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:32 PM

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wait

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l assume you're executing the file after you load it 😰

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:32 PM

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wat? :v

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:33 PM

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loadfile returns the file as a function

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you have to execute the function to populate the global table

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:33 PM

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:V

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:34 PM

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local func, err = loadfile(fileName); func() jsonToLua()

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sorry if its a dumb question

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just making sure 😂

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:34 PM

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no

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you're right

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I am an idiot

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:34 PM

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oh LOL

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:34 PM

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    local func, err = loadfile(fileName)

    if func then
        ConPrintf("EXECUTE THE FUNCTION YOU IDIOT")
    end

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oopsie

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:34 PM

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its okay I've done it before

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I thinkg dofile executes immediately

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:34 PM

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thanks for the help

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just saved me from a further 20 minutes of searching

golden yacht Jun 19, 2019, 10:35 PM

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hehe

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no problem!

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:36 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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there we go

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@simple ravine want to write me some fancy json to lua C#? 😄

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:37 PM

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it still borks?

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:38 PM

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I got the function, need to replace it with something in .net so MoonSharp doesn't error out

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although, maybe this off the shelf lua json encoder/decode lib will work

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:40 PM

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check out codePointToUTF8

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if you can translate that lol

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:40 PM

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oh god

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 10:40 PM

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does moonsharp have bitops?

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:41 PM

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https://github.com/AlberTajuelo/bitop-lua load in this lib with

_script.Globals["bit"] = _script.DoFile("Assets/bitops_lua/funcs.lua");

GitHub

AlberTajuelo/bitop-lua

Bitwise operators in pure Lua using Lua numbers. Contribute to AlberTajuelo/bitop-lua development by creating an account on GitHub.

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pure lua replacement

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 10:41 PM

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that's gotta be pretty slow

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean, optimization can come later. there's plenty to do to speed it up

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 10:42 PM

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hard to beat luajit

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:42 PM

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no C# bindings for luajit

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I know rasmuskl got it to work

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unsure if he used luajit, but i know he did it in c# for poe.ninja/builds

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:44 PM

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I mean, MoonSharp is alright for performance. it's not as fast as NLua but it does faster .net calls

chrome topaz Jun 19, 2019, 10:44 PM

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it's probably not a big issue if you're not running the ui

simple ravine Jun 19, 2019, 10:44 PM

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If I recall correctly, the 5.1 or 5.2 version had was not for .net core or something, the library I was testing last time

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and I had a bunch of issues with the bit stuff, and first tried to patch it by editing the lua code, but there were so many places

fathom spruce Jun 19, 2019, 10:46 PM

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yeah, the best way to do that is to load a bitops replacement library or patch in functions from .net

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I might do the latter once I get it working and perf it out

frigid nova Jun 19, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Does anyone know if there are any official posts from GGG about how curse priority works in party play? In my testing the description on the wiki is wrong.

wind garden Jun 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Nooooo

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my NumericalUpDown control isn't working on .net core

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after all the work of rebuilding the library 😦

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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why not?

wind garden Jun 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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not sure, just doesn't show up

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regular textbox shows up

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but this custom control doesn't

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I decided I didn't actually need the up/down arrows

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so I'm using a regular textbox with a behavior attached to only allow numbers

burnt hornet Jun 20, 2019, 2:53 AM

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anyone know how to enable original sounds in filterblade?

rose sapphire Jun 20, 2019, 6:04 AM

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@compact isle Hi, Is there any way to use oauth2 for Korean users or any alternative ways?

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 6:27 AM

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check the pin!!!!

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:36 AM

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@simple ravine Have you encountered Connection id "0HLNKU2MREIDA", Request id "0HLNKU2MREIDA:00000001": the connection was closed because the response was not read by the client at the specified minimum data rate. with .NET Core?

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I've seen it quite frequently on ninja after Legion launched..

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It'll 504 for a minute or so

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Mostly when requests are > 1500 / minute

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Hmm

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Looks like it might be an issue with JsonResult

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writing synchronously

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and causing starvation

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Are you reusing HttpClient?

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:38 AM

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The error itself makes little sense as I have nginx in front that should handle spoon feeding

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This is on incoming requests

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Controller actions

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:38 AM

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What on earth...

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:38 AM

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https://github.com/aspnet/KestrelHttpServer/issues/2936

GitHub

The connection was closed because the response was not read by the...

Hello, I have a .net 4.6.2 project (for my web apis) that is referencing, among other libraries, Microsoft.AspNetCore 2.1.3. I recently upgraded it from version 1.1. Since the upgrade I experienced...

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I've upgraded to .NET Core 2.2 now, let's see if that helps.

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Anyway.. "Too much load for .NET Core" internet achievement unlocked 😃 Thanks Legion!

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Was just gonna mention, try 2.2.5 runtime

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On your server

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Yeah just did

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 6:40 AM

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I thought the point of kestrel was to make it extremely scalable

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that's kind of impressive

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Rasmuskl can you share some insight on Lua thing with pob

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Well if this is JsonResult doing silly things it's not really Kestrels fault

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I have to take my daugther to daycare now, but I'll check once I get back.

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:41 AM

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You could also try 3.0 preview 6 with the new json serializer

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Nah I'll skip the previews for now 😃

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Alright, going to office, will be online there

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Right. I can probably answer some pob questions.

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 6:59 AM

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how you doing the autopob stuff?

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Well, I guess I sort of know how. I'm mostly looking for the ability to take a account and character name and generate a pastebin from that.

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How hard is that going to be 😅

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Classes/ImportTab.lua DownloadPassiveTree & DownloadItems

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Yeah pretty much. There's some code already in the headless wrapper.

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 7:28 AM

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oh

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cheers

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Hm. Is there any way to actually link Legion to 3.7... The major patch version isn't in any of the apis afaik?

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:34 AM

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@fickle yew Did you use MoonSharp as well, or did you use something else?

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I don't use MoonSharp no.

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I just use luajit

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Ah, so you don't integrate it with C# at all?

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or how does that work?

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 7:37 AM

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luajit microservice blobhyperthinkfast

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:37 AM

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http

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wrapped it in a tiny web server

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:38 AM

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ohh

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Welp

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Guess it will be the first if I ever get the bugs worked out

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:39 AM

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approaching 5 megapobs.. so it seems to work ok 😃

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:40 AM

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If you move it to github, @fathom spruce, I'll try to get some time on it

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Yeah will do later

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:40 AM

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What are you working on @fathom spruce ?

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 7:41 AM

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I've got a bunch of ideas for optimization and what not once it's working

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Pob c# bindings

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Using moonsharp (Lua interpreter fully written in c#)

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Ah cool. I'd definitely take a look at those

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:43 AM

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And if I get drunk enough sometime, I'll rewrite MoonSharp with .net core 2/3 optimizations 😂

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 7:43 AM

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Yeah, the main issue right now is with the recursion limit baked into moonsharp. They added a Lua bugfix that luajit doesn't have

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Makes all the gsub and find methods not work

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@simple ravine you're a braver man than I am

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:45 AM

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I am just extremely stupid with my choices where to put my energy

fathom spruce Jun 20, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Although that parser using Span would be fantastic

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 7:46 AM

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yeah, parsing is a prime example where it would shine

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 7:55 AM

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How's the performance difference between luajit and MoonSharp?

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:05 AM

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no idea yet

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there are still some kinks to make it load properly

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:06 AM

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well could be that there were some general perf metrics 😃

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I spend about 1 sec per build calc atm

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:08 AM

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ooff

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@woeful sphinx said he were down to less than 250ms and there were further optimizations to be made,

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Would be interesting to see if there were some collaboration possibilities soon there, and potentially some feature parity

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Well I'm recalculating multiple times during that second

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In pob you're advancing the gui frames to force calculations often

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It's not really built for bulk processing

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My server has only spent about ~58 days of cpu time calculating builds so far 😄

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:17 AM

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hehe snap!

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I really want to have a community collaboration on a C# library that does similar things to what PoB does, but without the GUI - that would be up to separate projects to deliver.

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This way, we can start providing cool things with a unified way of calculating things

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:19 AM

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I've scrapped most of my code after integrating pob

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My calculation engine

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It wasn't nearly as abstract as the one brather1ng is working on, but it was fast and made for bulk 😃 I only got around 80-90% done though.

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and a few patches behind now

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Yeah, I think the best idea is to not be alone in that struggle

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Perhaps we can take a look at yours. If you'd like, put it in some repo as-is with a couple of bullet-points, and I could take a look

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In a couple of weeks, I have 4 weeks of paid vacation 🎉 for the first time in like 6 years

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Oh 😃

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:22 AM

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And I am not gonna do 1 minute of normal work

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:23 AM

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I'm on paternity leave

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got up at 4.30 today, yay 😃

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Oh, you're allowed to be on paternity leave and also use daycare in Finland? that's pretty awesome

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Denmark... not Finland 😃

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Why did I think you were Finnish?

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For all this time

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:24 AM

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She's just starting now, so spending some paternity leave to get her used to it

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just short days

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:24 AM

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ah ok

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It feels like it was just a couple of months ago your baby was born 😂

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Time flies, geez

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:25 AM

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11 months. Time does fly.

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:25 AM

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hm 20pto sounds super meager, here 30 every years it he standard

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:26 AM

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yeah we have 25, or can opt for 30 without overtime extra pay

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but I save a few days for fall/winter

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:26 AM

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oic

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:27 AM

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USA has like 10?

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:27 AM

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some not even that

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Where you at Faust?

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:27 AM

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ger

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:27 AM

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achso

ornate gale Jun 20, 2019, 8:30 AM

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gesundheit

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:31 AM

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what are you doing with your fto then?

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:31 AM

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fto?

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oh

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well, vacation, not sure - haven't decided

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but I'm sure there will be some time for poe things

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:32 AM

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poe (tool) dev hackathon in Malmö 😄

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Malmö is like 5+ hours away for me heh

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But tempting

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Would be fun to go down to Denmark too, pop in and visit Lifting as well

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:34 AM

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😃

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he's far away from Copenhagen though afaik?

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Yeah let me check, he sent me his new address

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Hadsund

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:36 AM

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about as far as you can get from Copenhagen 😄

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:36 AM

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What are your plans for the summer?

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Not sure if my family appreciates me taking my first real vacation in years to go down by myself somewhere, hehe. Would be fun though.

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:38 AM

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not having any vacation now.. waiting till fall

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 8:38 AM

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can we do it in nodejs instead

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javascript is the language of the future 😌 ☝

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||kill me||

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:39 AM

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|| it is tempting /s ||

ornate gale Jun 20, 2019, 8:39 AM

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one would suggest a lifetime ban to wraeclast for this heresy

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Let's do it in C, and we can create binders to different other high-level languages /s

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Now that I think about it... It's not a terrible idea

ornate gale Jun 20, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Now we're talking. templarLul

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:40 AM

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If there's enough interest

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:41 AM

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amateurs, we clearly need a sap backend and should code in abap

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:42 AM

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But I'm getting the feeling, after a few years of indoctrination, .NET seems to be the most used language by the people active in here

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I will have you slapped with a trout for mentioning ABAP

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fucking SAP

ornate gale Jun 20, 2019, 8:42 AM

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< filthy ruby dev here >

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I'd rather C than ||C++|| 😰

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:43 AM

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feeling like it might be py

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Faust, you do c# no?

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:43 AM

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nah

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java/typescript/js at work, py at home

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:43 AM

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I do ruby as well for work

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Retik, me, rasmus, emmitt, brathering, notoats, etc

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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c# is a nice language when people follow the conventions set my microsoft

ornate gale Jun 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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depends if the question is personal pref or work 'obligations'

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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which is why I hate unity

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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I mean, you could say the same thing about javascript too

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if you travel 15 year back in time, and apply the same coding standards today

golden yacht Jun 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Oh I hate javascript too I just use it cause I'm lazy and node just werks ™

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Rasmus, if we were a few to collaborate, do you think we could make something in c#?

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:45 AM

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i dont really care which language i use tbh

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:45 AM

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C# for sure.

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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if i were to get into a c# project i'd not mind

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i'd mind if i get into a sap project tho

fickle yew Jun 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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For me anyway 😃

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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would be my main reason to hand in my notice :p

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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haha

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I have a project with a minor integration to SAP, and I hate it

grave wren Jun 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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i have to use their ui5 js frontend tech sometimes

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not a fan but bearable

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anything more and i'll be gone or want a way higher salary

ornate gale Jun 20, 2019, 8:47 AM

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from Charybdis into Scylla, you could always get an alternative between SAP and SalesForce's "Apex" crap

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which is basically gimped Java

simple ravine Jun 20, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Mine's RFC with BAPI / ABAP functions