#tooldev-general | Path of Exile 1 & 2 | Page 73

compact isle Aug 14, 2018, 1:52 AM

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yeah they're custom

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use handlebars for rendering and stuff

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 1:53 AM

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heh I use handlebars too

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I wonder if popper can avoid overlapping element with mouse tracking

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 5:40 AM

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@gritty olive Couldn't do a screenshot like this at the office coz no pob, but it's what I meant 🔽

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Doesn't list the jewels under items

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But from what I understand they're yet to be added though 😛 just checking

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 5:53 AM

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oh the sockets

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ye, they are in the tree area and I haven't parsed them yet

grave wren Aug 14, 2018, 6:00 AM

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Tsk

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You need to push the ladder harder nijko

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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I had to rewrite the item parser to support sets 😏

grave wren Aug 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Expecting pob2.0 in 7h when I am home

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You better get hacking

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 6:07 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/fury-kung-hackerman-QbumCX9HFFDQA

Giphy

grave wren Aug 14, 2018, 6:07 AM

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templarthumbsup

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 6:08 AM

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playing overwatch deathmatch tho

grave wren Aug 14, 2018, 6:08 AM

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Pls nijko

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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i gotta git gud at doom

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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hello, anybody knows if the chances of shaper etc mods listed in poecraft are also datamined? Because poedb doesn't have chances for them

glad plaza Aug 14, 2018, 7:49 AM

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At least they seem to be equal to datamined chances. The chances can only be displayed in the context of an item. If you just look at the mod list in poedb it has no context to compute the chances.

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 7:57 AM

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true but poedb lists shaped mods under specific item types yet doesn't have chances there either

glad plaza Aug 14, 2018, 7:58 AM

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oh right. didnt scroll that far down

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it's just not trivial because if you display the chances for shaper mods you have to adjust the chances for the simple mods

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and since this is only a static list thats just not possible. but for this exact reasons sites like poecraft exist.

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 8:14 AM

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all i need to know is if ones on poecraft are also datamined. I am making a simple tool for delve just to have an idea of possible mods and their rarity. I am fully aware that datamined values can be totally wrong

glad plaza Aug 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

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as I said it looks like it

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

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drop chance table can't be datamined anymore

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

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thanks @simple ravine !

glad plaza Aug 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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did they remove the spawnweights? @simple ravine

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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no, was referring to the currency drops

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modifier spawn weights are still there afaik

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but there have been talks about some people at GGG wanting them gone as well

glad plaza Aug 14, 2018, 8:32 AM

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but this was not the question, no? the question specifically mentioned shaper mods

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 8:33 AM

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ah right. sorry, misread

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 8:33 AM

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i wonder why they are still there if servers can have different values

glad plaza Aug 14, 2018, 8:33 AM

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I'd be fine with that if they at normalize them to 0 or 1

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otherwise there is no way to know what a shaper mod is or what mods are attack mods

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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so they are datamined probably? thanks guys, both of you

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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they have a spawn tag

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 8:46 AM

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@versed ginkgo I'm seeing 11 sockets 🤔

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 8:47 AM

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Isn't it 10 in the pob?

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 8:47 AM

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It is 10 but there are 11 socketed jewels

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 8:47 AM

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Not home rn I may have clicked something on the tree, I'll check soon

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 8:59 AM

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there are spawn tags called "boots_elder" / "boots_shaper" etc

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i'm assuming they will add spawn tags for the Delve-specific modifiers if any

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 9:05 AM

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I see why

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PoB keeps track of allocNodes

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at some point @versed ginkgo this node was alloc'd and then was unalloc'd

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the jewel information will stay in it

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and it's not flagged so I'd have to build the tree manually to alloc nodes

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

velvet fog Aug 14, 2018, 9:25 AM

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I can display the chance or weight for elder/shaper mods if needed

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mods could use different ModDomains, ModGenerationType, or spawn tags/weight, need final .dat to do data-mining

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 9:28 AM

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@velvet fog I'm assuming there are delve-specific spawn tags as well?

velvet fog Aug 14, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Jewel, Leaguestone, AbyssJewel, Atlas use ModDomains, Essence, Bestiary, Enchantments use ModGenerationType, and elder/shaper use tags/weight

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 9:31 AM

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there are a bunch of leaguestone specific spawn weights

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there is also a spawn weight called "jewel", "abyssal" etc

velvet fog Aug 14, 2018, 9:34 AM

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ya, I forget that

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if it have a specific tag

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for jewel, it must match ModDomains and tags/weight

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:08 AM

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:/

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PoB has different node identifiers than the sites

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@versed ginkgo

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versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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So it shows if you remove the extra one on the left?

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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I've made it work just like PoB, but PoB stores that information in the code

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so if you come back and re-alloc the jewel is still there

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okay it's live now

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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I see them 👌

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Cleared cache and they show normal now dw

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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lol

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I haven't released new version so css might be a lil broken

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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All good lol

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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sockets only show for singular tree codes, gotta add multiple tree support

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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Sounds like missions

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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I have the code in place but haven't finished lol

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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All in time \o/

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But looking more and more detailed every time

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:17 AM

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@velvet fog looks like this item is missing the icon

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versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 AM

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That's a new one chaosthinking

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 AM

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oh man, nvm ignore me then

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Asked my friend if he custom made it

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/960o8n/primordial_chain_golem_hype/

Primordial Chain... Golem Hype? • r/pathofexile

0 points and 16 comments so far on reddit

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Oh here is the wiki link https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Primordial_Chain

Path of Exile Wiki

The Primordial Chain

The Primordial ChainCoral AmuletRequires Level 34(2-4) Life Regenerated per secondCan Summon up to 3 additional Golems at a timeYou cannot have non-Golem Minions25% reduced Golem SizeGolems Deal 40% less DamageGolems have 35% less LifeGolems have 83% increased Movement SpeedP...

versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 AM

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Wiki dudes doing work too :o

gritty olive Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 AM

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🤔 it's on chuan's wiki

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maybe it is in the api

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nope

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I patched my dataset

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it's there now

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versed ginkgo Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

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Looking good

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 12:12 PM

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@velvet fog is there a guide, even a simple one, to how data stored in .dat files? I mean what headers/bytes etc to look for at least

misty sparrow Aug 14, 2018, 1:47 PM

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awesome thanks!

simple ravine Aug 14, 2018, 1:48 PM

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well first you need to parse the .ggpk file

velvet fog Aug 15, 2018, 1:11 AM

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📎 ggpkFormat.pdf

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:13 AM

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there's a Work In Progress library for C# as well:
https://github.com/andreandersen/PoeSharp/

velvet fog Aug 15, 2018, 1:14 AM

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@misty sparrow

Dat Format
- entry size: 4 bytes
- entry blocks: entry size * column size
- separate blocks: 8 bytes, \xbb\xbb\xbb\xbb\xbb\xbb\xbb\xbb
- data blocks
ex:
    4 bytes entry size: 16
    search separate blocks, return 84
    entry blocks: 84 - 4 = 80
    column size: 80 / 16 = 5

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I had my own, ...but in PHP

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:30 AM

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ouch 😄

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:32 AM

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honestly one written in Go would probably be the best outside of python

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:33 AM

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you underestimate my c# skills, pal

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extracting the entire ggpk is faster with my library (measured)

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:34 AM

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well, I was thinking more for portability so you wouldn't have to use mono on ubuntu etc

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also perf

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:34 AM

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you don't have to use mono on ubuntu

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:35 AM

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marauderthinking

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:35 AM

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.net core

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:35 AM

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oh yeah windows made a thing

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:36 AM

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windows made a thing?

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:36 AM

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Register Microsoft key and feed

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disgusting

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https://www.microsoft.com/net/learn/get-started-with-dotnet-tutorial#install

Microsoft

.NET Tutorial | Hello World in 10 minutes

Step-by-step instructions and videos for installing .NET and building your first Hello World .NET application. Develop with free tools for Linux, macOS, and Windows.

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I forgot how weird ubuntu was

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goes back to centos where you just download an rpm

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:38 AM

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you're making 0 sense right now

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:38 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:39 AM

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you can install the .net sdk on mac and linux, and compile native shit with it nowadays

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i.e. .NET Core

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:39 AM

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I think I posted the link for doing that

chrome topaz Aug 15, 2018, 1:39 AM

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truly the future is now

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:40 AM

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the future is always one second ahead of you

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:40 AM

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they've also been adding low-level high-perf API surfaces to .net core

chrome topaz Aug 15, 2018, 1:40 AM

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also, why's that "disgusting" lol

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you have to register their key because packages are signed

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so your system needs to know what key to verify against

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:41 AM

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single RPM vs Key and registry

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:41 AM

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that's pretty common

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:41 AM

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debian is worse though

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:42 AM

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you realize it's a good thing, having signed packages right?

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:42 AM

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you've missed the point it seems of what I am saying

chrome topaz Aug 15, 2018, 1:42 AM

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guess they didn't bother building a .deb for debian

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how sad

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:43 AM

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ikr

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:43 AM

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the good thing is it's open source, u go ahead and do it if u want 😛

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:43 AM

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I feel that is a running gag in OS

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:44 AM

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go compile .net core from source if u'd like

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:44 AM

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thats the gag

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:44 AM

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gag?

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:44 AM

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minimum effort, fallback on user to do work

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however worst is when a paid product does it though

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:45 AM

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i'm fairly confident that if enough people would migrate to debian and ask for a .deb package for debian, they'll comply

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:45 AM

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or the paid product is a shittier version of their OS one

simple ravine Aug 15, 2018, 1:45 AM

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there's just not enough people wanting it

chrome topaz Aug 15, 2018, 1:45 AM

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that's not surprising

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 1:49 AM

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@velvet fog how do you generate your api with the webcdn links

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I have a feeling it's based off the GGPK

velvet fog Aug 15, 2018, 2:28 AM

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@gritty olive

$sql = <<<EOF
SELECT BaseItemTypes.Code AS Name,
CONCAT("{$WEBCDN}", ItemVisualIdentity.IconPath,"?scale=1&w=",BaseItemTypes.Width,"&h=",BaseItemTypes.Height,
CASE WHEN ItemClasses.Code='Map' THEN "&mr=1&mn=1" ELSE "" END) AS IconPath,BaseItemTypes.ItemClassesID,ItemClasses.Name AS ItemClassesName 
FROM BaseItemTypes,ItemClasses,ItemVisualIdentity 
WHERE ItemVisualIdentity.ID=BaseItemTypes.ItemVisualIdentityID 
AND BaseItemTypes.ItemClassesID=ItemClasses.ID 
AND ItemClasses.ID IN (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,32,35,37,38,41,47,50)
EOF;

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that api is a sql raw output

gritty olive Aug 15, 2018, 2:43 AM

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interesting

worthy cape Aug 15, 2018, 11:16 AM

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@gritty olive I wrote a library in mostly self-contained C for the GGPK side of things, only dependency is brotli for the compressed meshes and textures. Didn't give any hoots about DAT files as my personal goal was rendering assets.

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I picked C because of having a reasonable chance of it being usable from scripting languages with horrible C++ standards like CPython's manylinux1.

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https://bitbucket.org/zao/gggtools/src/76881a4a23c96d393d7837e8008ae5435a0a2a5b/gggtools/include/gggtools/ggg.h?at=master&fileviewer=file-view-default

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Oh right, core library doesn't even rely on brotli, hoisted that out to the viewer code as there's brotli libraries for languages already.

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Some day I'll get around packaging it properly, when Free Time™ manifests.

gritty olive Aug 16, 2018, 12:40 AM

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Oh sweet

gritty olive Aug 17, 2018, 2:56 AM

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templarLul let's just show two sockets but really we mean one

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deft jolt Aug 17, 2018, 4:57 AM

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@velvet fog These are missing from the Swagger
List ignored trade accountsHTTP GET https://www.pathofexile.com/api/trade/ignore
Ignore a trade accountHTTP PUT https://www.pathofexile.com/api/trade/ignore/{{account}}
Unignore a trade accountHTTP DELETE https://www.pathofexile.com/api/trade/ignore/{{account}}

gritty olive Aug 19, 2018, 8:41 PM

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okay this is fine

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okay this is not fine

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same exact property

cosmic saffron Aug 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

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===

gritty olive Aug 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

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It's printing it's values

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not doing checks

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😂

cosmic saffron Aug 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

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where's the object from?

gritty olive Aug 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

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item parser

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ggg

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cosmic saffron Aug 19, 2018, 8:54 PM

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is it iterating through all the properties to find a non-truthy value? should catch the line:string at least

strong badge Aug 19, 2018, 9:10 PM

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whats the way to get leaguenames? 😄

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nevermind found it 😛 http://api.pathofexile.com/leagues?type=event&season=Incursion&compact=1

gritty olive Aug 19, 2018, 9:31 PM

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I figured it out

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had to traverse the parent to check against a value

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 4:44 AM

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\o/ wild wild west

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let's have 8 weapon 1s

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 4:51 AM

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Having fun there?

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:09 AM

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@timid hemlock ye man wild west when it comes to skills in PoB

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:09 AM

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😄

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It all makes sense once it's loaded into the program

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Or at least I think it does :3

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Idk if you've seen it yet

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https://poe.technology/poebuddy/xz5eeJmD#skills-view

PoE Buddy

Spectral Throw Raider (LVL 89 Ranger)

Bandits: Alira (Mana Regen, Crit Multiplier, Resists)

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Yeah I did see it pass by the rock I've been hiding under lately

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Nice work 😃

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:12 AM

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If I get a chance I might submit a PR to re-process items before export

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that would save a lot of processing for everyone involved

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Hmm

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I'm not sure why I'm not already doing that at this point

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There used to be a good reason for not doing it

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But that's been lost in the mists of time now

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:13 AM

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I'm trying to avoid converting ModDB / ModList over

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I have a headless PoB but shoving things into it, and then getting back output takes too long :/

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Hmm

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Are you using a continuously running instance for that? Or spawning new ones

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I actually wrote my own

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It doesn't "spawn an instance" of it

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Ah; directly interfacing with the code then?

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Yeah

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Ah, neat

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:16 AM

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I know Item.lua pretty in-depth now

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:16 AM

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😃

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Yeah, item handling is fun

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Abyss sockets are probably the worst part tbh

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Really?

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Yeah, since there isn't a re-processing, when you import, you build them in another section after the item is built when it's inserted into the Items tab

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I had to track that stuff down, it can be completely avoided by relying on the variants though

timid hemlock Aug 20, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Oohh right

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Yeah, because it is dependant on the item's modifiers

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Hmm

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Should do reprocessing then 😄

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But then I'll remember why I don't do that now >_>

gritty olive Aug 20, 2018, 5:20 AM

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I actually am quite perplexed by the sockets going missing

strong badge Aug 20, 2018, 7:21 AM

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hey everyone! wasnt there some community managed api doc for the PoE API's? 😄

deft jolt Aug 20, 2018, 7:35 AM

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check the 📌

strong badge Aug 20, 2018, 7:42 AM

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well thats way to ez :*)

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thank you!

velvet fog Aug 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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@compact isle ItemClasses.dat UtilityFlaskCritical missing Category value Flasks

velvet fog Aug 21, 2018, 7:47 AM

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FishingRod missing "Two Handed Weapon" too

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:29 AM

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@hushed relic Feature request: Beam visualization on filterblade.xyz on the items you want to beam (and minimap icons stuff too) 😄

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:29 AM

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I've been thinking about that @simple ravine this is certainly something we wanna do over time

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however, for now that's very low priority, we first need to integrate all of these new features, once we have the details

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and find a solution for the UI-box-problem

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:30 AM

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UI box problem?

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:30 AM

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and also get them into the filter and add the advanced features and style related stuff

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlLJ5prXsAAm5F9.jpg:large

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:30 AM

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I think I am missing some context

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plebs

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:31 AM

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I need to rework the visual editor to somehow fit all of this in

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without confusing users

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and without making it too fat

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lol 😄

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:31 AM

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kids that weren't born around Windows 95

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:32 AM

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simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:32 AM

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but yeah, what other features are we talking about?

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Beam, mapicon, sound. The user needs to see if any of those are present on one glance

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And I don't wanna make the editor larger

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So that's my current sketch

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:33 AM

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I think that can be done like you are doing it now, with the icons

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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I was actually using windows 95, when I was like 8? 9?

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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but I would probably add those icons right-aligned in the vertical level of the title

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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That doesn't work sadly

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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yeah same here.. when u born? I'm an 85-er

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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89

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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I used Dos and Windows 3.1 too

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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the title is a separate thing in the domain langauge

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and not everything has one

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by the way I've gotten the Application Manager job, I've been talking about around half a year ago

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Starting in october

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Nice! Congrats!

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Thanks, I'm feeling a mix of excitement, "bring it on"-feeling and anxiety 😄

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Took only like 6 interviews, to pass the process

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:36 AM

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hehe, yeah i can imagine

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I actually sold my shares in my stuff, and thinking about starting consulting again

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but also working in a little secret project with Lifting

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so we'll see what's what

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:38 AM

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That sounds intriguing

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Looking forward to see that

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:38 AM

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I think that is subliminally confusing people a lot

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:39 AM

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what do you mean?

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Information overload, and it takes up a lot of UI real estate

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the list

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:41 AM

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Yeah, that's something we've noticed too

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we're working on something like a switchable compact mode

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or different views

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We've implemented that for currency already, it can easily switch from full mode to a "tierlist editor mode"

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The item appearance is not editable in that state, but the tierlists are very close to each other so you can drag-drop easily

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Might do the same, but reverse for apperances

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The tierlist editor mode will likely come for delve, it's already implemented

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THe rest will likely have to wait, we expected an easy patch without a lot of changes for filterblade

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that changed, so no we've put a cut on the new feature development and are working on the beam/map thingies

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(we usually resume some evening development activities on filterblade 2-4 weeks before release)

coarse robin Aug 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I've always wondered if your name @hushed relic was a reference to the 'Neversink Farm' in NY, or was that a happy coincidence?

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Coincidence, I've found out about the farm around a year ago

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I've been trying through all kind of random names, my brain would spit out in Guildwars2 because EVERYTHING was taken

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and after 150+ attempts, NeverSink worked

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:52 AM

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something like that perhaps

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and obviously resize the containers to look nice

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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That's actually very slick

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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so I think you're on the right track

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the +10 more could either open a modal or just expand it

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but 2-3 in the tier kind of gives most people an idea of what kind of tier this is

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the show-hide can be a toggle button, rather than 2 buttons

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:55 AM

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It has a disable option too

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sometimes it's 3 options

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:55 AM

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hmm

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:56 AM

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I really like the map/beam/sound buttons

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maybe we can implement it as some sort of "toolbar" within the editor

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:57 AM

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the ultimate success of a design is when there is nothing else to remove from it

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some famous dude

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:57 AM

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interesting paradigm

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:58 AM

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what's the difference between hide and disable?

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I never thought about that tbh

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:59 AM

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It's rulebased so it passes rules until it finds 1 and matches it

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with hide, it finds the rule and stops searching if it matches

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 11:59 AM

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ah, switch case

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 11:59 AM

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disable removes the rule

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yep

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 12:00 PM

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that right there, is something non-programmers will have a hard time understanding

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 12:00 PM

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we usually solve it, by giving the user only 2 options that make most sense

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there's a limited number of 3 option ones

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for instance animated weapon

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 12:02 PM

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This might sound pretty cynical, but when I've done UIs and such in the past, I've always thought of the user as my mother.

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And think "Would she understand this?"

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 12:05 PM

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no, that's pretty accurate acutally...

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📎 unknown.png

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 12:07 PM

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this even confuses me sometimes hehe

coarse robin Aug 22, 2018, 12:10 PM

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So it's just an 'Offline Save Cache'

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 12:10 PM

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Yeah, in case you empty your local storage

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and don't like the online one

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 12:10 PM

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How do I find my savestate if I wipe my browser?

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 12:12 PM

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If you wipe your local storage? You don't, it's gone

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Unless you have an online save URL or a save-file

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Time to bookmark my save 😄

gray glade Aug 22, 2018, 1:50 PM

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hi, is there a place where I can find raw .json files containing all map mods, item mods, ...? or did I need to manually map them into a .json?

simple ravine Aug 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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@gray glade https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE/

grave wren Aug 22, 2018, 2:55 PM

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@hushed relic gz on the new position

hushed relic Aug 22, 2018, 3:11 PM

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thanks 😃

gritty olive Aug 23, 2018, 1:17 AM

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@hushed relic congratulations

timber prism Aug 23, 2018, 8:07 AM

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neversink take my energy man you're the best 😄

velvet fog Aug 23, 2018, 8:56 AM

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neversink new position? what I had missed?

slow forge Aug 23, 2018, 9:18 AM

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@velvet fog

📎 Discord_2018-08-23_12-18-00.png

velvet fog Aug 23, 2018, 9:33 AM

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༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ NEVERSINK TAKE MY ENERGY ! ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

hushed relic Aug 23, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Haha, thanks, I'll need it

simple ravine Aug 23, 2018, 11:21 AM

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😄

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It starts early

orchid wasp Aug 23, 2018, 3:06 PM

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Neversink has made me hate rat's nest

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 7:48 AM

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@velvet fog you wouldn't happen to know the poecdn url for Scion's Ascendant image would you?

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 7:51 AM

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http://poedb.tw/us/skilltree.php?c=ascendancy&id=Ascendant

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 7:51 AM

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Trying to find the icon

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http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DArt/SkillIcons/passives/Ascendants/Guardian.png

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Like Guardian

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It's not http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DArt/SkillIcons/passives/Ascendants/Ascendant.png

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That'd make way too much sense...

grave wren Aug 24, 2018, 7:59 AM

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Had to make my own for the bot

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:04 AM

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@compact isle is there an official scion ascendant icon on the cdn?

compact isle Aug 24, 2018, 8:04 AM

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not like the Guardian one

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:04 AM

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fork

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 8:05 AM

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http://web.poecdn.com//image/gen/inventory-sprite.png?1534803817000

compact isle Aug 24, 2018, 8:05 AM

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let me double check

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:05 AM

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Unfortunately @velvet fog this is an OG meta tag so I can't leverage swanky css 😦

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 8:06 AM

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there is no icon in Passives https://web.poecdn.com/gen/image/WzIyLCI4ZjZhZTdkOGExOGRjNTYwZjAzNDdmY2FiNTlmZjIyYSIseyJ0IjoyNCwic3AiOjAuMjk3Mn1d/b2496a7398/Ascendant.png

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:07 AM

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Seems like it's hardcoded into the game

compact isle Aug 24, 2018, 8:07 AM

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yeah there's no ascendant image like the other ones

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:08 AM

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💩

compact isle Aug 24, 2018, 8:09 AM

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http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DArt/UIImages/Common/4K/IconStrDexInt_Ascendant.png

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maybe?

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:09 AM

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nice

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https://poe.technology/poebuddy/eiPHpQWz

PoE Buddy

Earthquake Ascendant (LVL 95 Scion)

Bandits: Oak (Life Regen, Phys.Dmg. Reduction, Phys.Dmg)

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\o/

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 8:11 AM

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CN had better one http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Effects/CNitems/CNportraits/CNAscendant.png

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:11 AM

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dude china has a cool ass icon wtf

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weird I can only see the Ascendant portrait in CN

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 8:15 AM

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http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Effects/CNitems/CNportraits/CNElementalist.png

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http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Effects/CNitems/CNportraits/CNOcculist.png

compact isle Aug 24, 2018, 8:15 AM

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yeah china has custom ones

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Ascendant is the only good one so far <_<

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 8:16 AM

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only girls http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Effects/CNitems/CNportraits/CNPathfinder.png

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:17 AM

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Pathfinder looks cool

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http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Effects/CNitems/CNportraits/CNDeadeye.png

fleet cloak Aug 24, 2018, 8:34 AM

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chinese portraits?

velvet fog Aug 24, 2018, 8:38 AM

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ya, they replace 7 girl portraits with new design

gritty olive Aug 24, 2018, 8:40 AM

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http://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Effects/CNitems/CNportraits/CNNecromancer.png

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This is coool

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It is a season reward

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📎 unknown.png

grave wren Aug 24, 2018, 8:43 AM

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Not a fan of them personally

simple ravine Aug 24, 2018, 10:10 AM

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Necromancer was nice

compact isle Aug 25, 2018, 5:05 AM

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@chrome topaz 3.4.0 will break a lot of the hacky form posting things Acquisition / your PM bot does, let me know when you're around for more details

gritty olive Aug 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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jwt tokens?

compact isle Aug 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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nah just form layout things

gritty olive Aug 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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ah

chrome topaz Aug 25, 2018, 5:28 AM

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@compact isle I'm here right now, but leaving soon; perhaps you could just post them / PM and I'll reply when I can

compact isle Aug 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

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yep will do

bold edge Aug 25, 2018, 1:55 PM

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@gritty olive oh man they have those banners in china? damn it i want them

gritty olive Aug 25, 2018, 11:26 PM

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yeah

bold edge Aug 26, 2018, 9:00 AM

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damn it china

versed ginkgo Aug 26, 2018, 12:12 PM

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@gritty olive it is supposed to round up the currency value right? https://pastebin.com/vHPkkU2u

📎 Screenshot_2018-08-26-14-10-01.png

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 12:16 PM

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hes just very precise

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templarLul

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 1:01 PM

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fractions I guess.

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single point floats + fractions = meh

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 4:44 PM

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what are programmatic ways to record loot of player inventory without user interaction? iirc, when using the api I need the user to change instance/go town to update the api

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i have already though of something like image recognition but it will only work for raw currency and not rare items

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 4:52 PM

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@gray glade this might be of interest https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9a8txq/a_farewell_to_incursion_loot_log_for_all_1726/e4tq4qm/

r/pathofexile - A farewell to Incursion: Loot log for all 1,726 ma...

172 votes and 86 comments so far on Reddit

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 4:55 PM

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I forgot to add about something in realtime, like the player finished its map and it now record all the loot into the program

bold edge Aug 26, 2018, 5:00 PM

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84 maps for lvl 95

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400+ for lvl 96

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lol

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 5:14 PM

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@gray glade I am also interested in if that could be done in realtime with a clever method

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I was inspired by the person siegrest linked and was thinking if that could be turned into a more general purpose tool that people could use to track themselves but entering private auth key isn't preferred by people

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Maybe screen capturing very fast if you detect the player is in the stash screen and getting values from tooltip

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Would love to hear some suggestions

delicate ore Aug 26, 2018, 5:20 PM

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@gray glade @eager rivet have the user dump their inventory into a public stash tab then have your program poll the stash tab api

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and compare the stash differences based on game log

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when they enter new map, etc

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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yep that's the only way I can find @delicate ore

delicate ore Aug 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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its a good automated solution

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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making diff between last portal

delicate ore Aug 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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but you have to account for api delay

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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sure, need to enter api key

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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What do you think about the idea of rapid screen capturing during stash and reading tooltips?

delicate ore Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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seems like it would add downtime

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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it could be very annoying depending of user computer perfs

delicate ore Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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and relies on good ocr

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but

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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sounds against TOS

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i dont think they'd like that kind of automation

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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yeah and implementing a good ocr is gonna take some time

delicate ore Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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i think a macro that ctrl+c on all inventory items would be legal

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since theres no server actions

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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yeah but it requires the player to open inventory and press a bind to automate this

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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How is that automation if all you do is send information to a service and don't take any action ?

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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players want to put the program in background and check their map income

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not doing program interaction every map

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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just saying that ggg might tell you to stop with their very unclear rules

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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as always

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Yeah they could, but automation implies taking game actions to me

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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if you do some weird stuff with ocr, image recognition, ... it can't work with their tos

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you better have to use their api to stay in the rules

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also, is it possible to track deaths using their api?

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 5:27 PM

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client.txt would be my guess

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not 100% sure

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nope

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 5:35 PM

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yeah client.txt ofc, thanks

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Just periodically check the inventory and dedicated stash tabs through the character window APIs

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client.txt will tell you when u enter an area, and when you die

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Is inventory api always this fast to update? Currently changes are reflected instantly

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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doubtful at the first few days

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Thought so

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Poe apis working during the first week templarLul

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that's a good one

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:00 PM

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fucking xyz and his trade site not working

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when poeapp works fine /s

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 7:04 PM

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LUL

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 7:19 PM

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how do you detect that the player have changed map and is not re-entering the same map again? as far as i'm aware, it's not possible using client.txt (since it will not log when player created a new map) nor using api

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it kinda need user interaction for this one

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:21 PM

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you need it either way for map rolls

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:21 PM

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So OCR for map rolls is against the tos?

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:22 PM

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why ocr

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if you need to press a button

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let the user ctrl+c the map

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:22 PM

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without pressing I mean

cosmic saffron Aug 26, 2018, 7:23 PM

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no, you need a user action for it to not be against tos

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alternatively you can set up a special maps-to-run stash and catalogue that before each mapping session

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Just wish GGG had a stance on tools, so people wouldn't argue what is legal and waste countless hours for them to thrash it

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:28 PM

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there is a stance

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its just a hard no on anything remotely automated

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Every software is remotely automated

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For example poe trade macro searches an item for you, if you didn't have that you'd have to enter each field manually. Thats more than remotely automated

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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you press a button or interact with it though

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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you press a button instead of dozens

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:30 PM

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i'm not here to argue, ask around people here had to trash a lot of stuff because its against tos

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:32 PM

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And that is exactly my point, the only reason they had to thrash it is because there is no stance and they decide to allow or not on a case by case basis independantly

worthy cape Aug 26, 2018, 7:35 PM

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If you have to ask, it's probably not a good idea in the first place.

grave wren Aug 26, 2018, 7:36 PM

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i am with you, although i also see the benefit in not having it stated

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you can easily shut down loopholes

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cant do it if your rules say its allowed

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 7:38 PM

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it's pretty common practice to give yourself as much legal wiggle room as possible

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Totally, but when you are sending people emails like In this situation I would advise against using any programs that interact with the game client to provide an advantage over other players, as this may result in your account being permanently banned. without clarification, all you are doing is making people nervous and paranoid. programs that provide an advantage that is literally by definition a tools purpose. When the stance is as ambiguous as this you feel like you need to ask every single interaction you are going to have, discrediting the argument If you have to ask it's not a good idea.

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 7:58 PM

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interact with the game client is what worries me

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 7:58 PM

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tools that give an advantage: premium stash tabs

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 8:00 PM

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They got some strict guidelines but other than that as long as you don't actually ask (sounds stupid, I know) you should be fine

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 8:00 PM

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until you're not

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 8:00 PM

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depends on the type of tool he wants to make

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It's always easier to say no

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 8:01 PM

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I wouldn't do any system hooks trickery to the poe process though

deft jolt Aug 26, 2018, 8:01 PM

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^

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 8:01 PM

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and obviously not manipulate the memory

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 8:02 PM

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Thinking about it, all this does is push people with capabilities to create tools to not release their tool and keep it private.

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 8:02 PM

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which is better, if you think about it

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because how popular a tool become, not everyone will use it

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or know about it

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Say I make an automatic screen capturing tool to track my currency progress, map stats etc.. and they'd have absolutely no way of knowing I had such a tool

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 8:08 PM

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correct

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but there are better ways of doing just that though

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Yeah just saying since it's the topic that started this discussion

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 8:10 PM

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anyway, i really hope ggg release some official rules for community tools since there are more and more every league

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I've been around for ~2 years, and there haven't been much happening in that particular area

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 9:06 PM

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there are easier ways to build an app like the one shown on reddit you don't need to do screen reading or capturing for those things

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client.txt and the character api is all you need

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:10 PM

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the client.txt doesn't tell you the map mods on the map you're running though, which he's using the screen scraping for

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however, a CTRL+C hook should work as well

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 9:35 PM

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ctrl+c

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:41 PM

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In Maps.dat there are 3 values, 'MapsKey1', 'MapsKey2' and 'MapsKey3' - does anyone know what these are for?

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 9:41 PM

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I realize I didn't say much there, however, I agree, CTRL+C is a much better solution and is the one that is used for the existing map tracker

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http://pathofmaps.com/

Path of Maps

Track your map runs in Path of Exile.

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:42 PM

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I want programmatic access to it from the gamefiles

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 9:42 PM

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It also does what this guy is doing, I wonder if not everyone knows about pathofmaps

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:52 PM

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already know about path of maps, but it is kinda old and not really updated to meet today's path of exile

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i talked to the dev a few weeks ago and he apparently planned to make the source code open-source due to the lack of updates on the program

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:52 PM

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in what ways?

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 9:53 PM

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how is CTRL+C much better than automatic tracking?

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:53 PM

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i tried path of maps but it's UI was poorly designed and required too much interaction

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that's only my opinion

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:53 PM

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because it doesn't require OCR that have an error rate

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:54 PM

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and ctrl+c is really faster than ocr

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when you want to implement ocr, you need to take in account the time to make a screenshot, cut it, scale it (can take some time depending on the machine), make ocr read the map mods then match the mods found against a "database" of map mods to make sure the confidence of ocr is high

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 9:55 PM

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I tried out of curiosity, screen reading entire screen every 0.5 sec doesn't have a noticable effect on performance

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:56 PM

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again, it depend on machine perfs, you need to take in account that not everyone have a high-end rig and can't waste some precious cpu % or ram

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they can only run the game and nothing else

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 9:56 PM

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True

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:56 PM

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but i'vez found that even if you do ocr/screen reading, you will be lost somewhere because of poe limitation in terms of tools

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Does that work in fullscreen mode (exclusive mode)?

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

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i.e: can't automatically detect when a player enter/generate a new map

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fullscreen windowed? fullscreen?

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

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exclusive mode = non-windowed

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afaik, you can't without hooking into DirectX

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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haven't tried ocr on exclude fullscreen

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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My implementation doesn't, that might be tricky since even screen sharing apps usually fail at exclusive apps

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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yeah you will maybe get a black screenshot

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Should be certainly possible tho

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:00 PM

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I would do this:
"ctrl+c"
listen at client.txt on enter area (map area, hideout/town)
grab inventory

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 10:00 PM

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you could also passively scan clipboard in the background

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but ToS police

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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@eager rivet are you briansd?

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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the upside for the ocr is you'll catch sextant mods

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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@gritty olive briansd?

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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listening on clipboard for screenshot should be fine

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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https://briansd12.tk/poe-incursion/map.php?id=20180823110426

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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nope

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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his website down?

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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oh

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it is

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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it was working well a few hours ago

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:/

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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no it's not, works for me

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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I have it up

📎 unknown.png

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But If I go to it now it is down

gray glade Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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try clear cache and reload

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or mb me

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idk

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since you are here @gritty olive is it a pain to develop electron apps? is it the first time you create one? i've never created one and i'm afraid of performances issues

cosmic saffron Aug 26, 2018, 10:06 PM

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do you have specific performance requirements in mind?

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is this app going to be used by a single end-user to query the api or a central server that you host?

eager rivet Aug 26, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Wish game devs took addons more seriously, I believe a very large part of WoW's success comes from addons. It isn't even that much work, just wrappers for exposed functions in a scripting language. Also removes all ambiguities , what you can do with the game api is legal, rest isn't.

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:10 PM

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It is a pain if you're dealing with a framework yes

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Hot reloading / app reloading, and then limited access between main / renderer is annoying

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You end up having a heavy reliance on IPC events

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outside of that pretty straight forward

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:13 PM

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@obtuse citrus Sorry to bother, but do you know if there are any way to get the connections between different maps? I've tried to go for Maps.dat -> Regular_WorldAreasKey -> Connections_WorldAreasKeys , but they're always empty

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:17 PM

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I don't think they have connections, unless you mean the atlas ones

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:17 PM

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Yeah.

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:17 PM

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AtlasNode.dat

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:18 PM

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ahh, hmm

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thanks, I'll check that out

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Any idea what the MapsKey1-3 is in Maps.dat?

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:19 PM

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not really sure hence the name

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it might be related to upgrade paths or something like that but I think that theory had issues

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Perhaps it has to do with drops at same tier in that map or something?

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:20 PM

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@versed ginkgo https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2191593/page/5#p15755004

Path of Exile

Forum - Gameplay Help and Discussion - [TOOL] 🦉 PoE Buddy - Bro...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:20 PM

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they seem to be in the same tier

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:21 PM

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MapsKey1 also seems to be only filled by entries that have "4" as value unknown0 column, but the reverse doesn'T hold true (unknown0 with value 4 can either have None or MapsKey1 values)

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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ah interesting, i haven't dug that far into the correlation between the different values

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thanks for the pointer towards AtlasNode.dat 🙂

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:26 PM

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now that I think about it unknown4 might be the map series

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:26 PM

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ah hmm, let me filter on that real quick and see what happens

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143 hits

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And that is with 3 Harbinger Maps

gritty olive Aug 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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GGG should just give devs the meaning, it's eventually going to be reverse engineered

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:32 PM

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Nah, I don't think it's the series 😐

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:34 PM

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it fits perfectly

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:34 PM

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well if you check Unknown0 == 3

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you get all the shaped maps etc

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:34 PM

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https://pastebin.com/FJvykSfc

Pastebin

>>> for row in r['Maps.dat']: print(row['BaseItemTypesKey']['Id'...

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I think it should be fairly obvious from that

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:42 PM

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why is all the shaped maps in group 3?

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:42 PM

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because shaped maps are no longer distinct items

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when they did war for the atlas they changed a few things

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:43 PM

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But there are 157 maps

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:43 PM

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shaped is more like a mod/property of the item

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the icons are also no longer fixed but autogerated from background + icon + tier colour

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:44 PM

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ah, the unique maps

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:46 PM

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I think MapKey1 is just the map the current row entry is upgraded from

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:46 PM

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https://pastebin.com/wKLXdGmf

Pastebin

[JSON] { "1": [{ "Id": "Metadata/Items/Maps/MapTier1...

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 10:50 PM

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MapsKey2 seems to be which current set of maps a map upgrades into? Or something like that

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MapsKey3 perhaps too, but for the unique version of the map

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or maybe what kind of map it opens when put into map device instead of opening the old map layouts or so

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 10:59 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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With my code, MapsKey1-3 are empty for a lot of entries

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 11:00 PM

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yea

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key1 is only used on the new series and the empty rows make sense I already adjusted that field

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the other two I'd need to verify

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 11:01 PM

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yeah I filtered the above screenshot for Unknown0 == 4

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 11:01 PM

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but it's legacy maps only basically and it always seems to point to recent map series at the moment

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 11:02 PM

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isn't Lookout Map a new map?

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 11:03 PM

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they renamed some of the old maps as well

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Alleyways (Tier 2) MapKeys1 => Lookout Map (Tier 1)

obtuse citrus Aug 26, 2018, 11:04 PM

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yeah it was upgraded from lookout map

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aka lookout map upgrasdes to alleyways

simple ravine Aug 26, 2018, 11:04 PM

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ah

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I can't seem to find any maps with MapKeys2-3 with Unknown0 == 4

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which means you're probably right with the upgrade to current theory

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perhaps

chrome topaz Aug 27, 2018, 11:54 AM

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@compact isle got the patch, thanks. I don't see any changes to the PM functions though, it looks identical to what I'm already doing

brittle oasis Aug 27, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Is there a JSON file for all the unique items and skill tooltips, basically all the static items in game?

chrome topaz Aug 27, 2018, 12:33 PM

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hmm I take it, the new socketable currency isn't stackable?

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@brittle oasis don't think there's one for unique items, but there's https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE which should have skills

GitHub

brather1ng/RePoE

Repository of Path of Exile data for tool developers - brather1ng/RePoE

brittle oasis Aug 27, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Thank you, much appreciated

velvet fog Aug 27, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Fossils are not stackable currency?

simple ravine Aug 27, 2018, 3:01 PM

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so we have the same issue as leaguestones

simple ravine Aug 27, 2018, 4:15 PM

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how about those yellow things that u put into the fossils?

gritty olive Aug 27, 2018, 4:59 PM

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That's going to be frustrating if true

chrome topaz Aug 27, 2018, 5:49 PM

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well they don't have stack size in the json

simple ravine Aug 27, 2018, 5:55 PM

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not those small things either, @chrome topaz ?

chrome topaz Aug 27, 2018, 9:03 PM

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none of them @simple ravine

compact isle Aug 27, 2018, 10:53 PM

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the only river changes are a "delve": true property on resonators, as well as DV being a new gem socket colour

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when a resonator is full you do lose access to the sockets however (they won't be "socketed" in the item anymore)

compact isle Aug 27, 2018, 11:38 PM

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mods, yes. Images are part of the deploy so no to that one

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they'll be deployed with 3.4.0 I mean

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ah I see

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sec

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do you just want the asset or do you need the link that will be used when it's live?

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ah

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oh looks like it's already in place

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https://web.poecdn.com/gen/image/WzUsMTQseyJzdCI6IiIsImNvbG91ciI6IkRWIiwicyI6MC42MDg1MTkyNjk3NzY4NzYzfV0,/1d1a518cc8/Socket.png

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will get you the socketed one next

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https://web.poecdn.com/gen/image/WzUsMTQseyJzdCI6InNwcml0ZSIsImNvbG91ciI6IkRWIiwicyI6MC42MDg1MTkyNjk3NzY4NzYzLCJnZW1Db2xvdXIiOiJEViIsImFjdGl2ZSI6dHJ1ZX1d/8dd473899d/Socket.png

compact isle Aug 28, 2018, 1:02 AM

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no

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maxing them out transforms the item

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📎 unknown.png

chrome topaz Aug 28, 2018, 1:38 AM

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so it's "applies to" instead of "does not apply to"?

gritty olive Aug 28, 2018, 2:05 AM

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@compact isle can wearable items* have DV sockets?

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Might be a weird question to some but lol weird things can happen xD

velvet fog Aug 28, 2018, 2:10 AM

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what is DV sockets?

gritty olive Aug 28, 2018, 2:10 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/175290321695932416/483771175197999104

velvet fog Aug 28, 2018, 2:11 AM

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ouch, could we have an full example for the fossil?

compact isle Aug 28, 2018, 2:20 AM

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wow you can link discord messages now? That's cool

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when a resonator has fossils in all of it's sockets it transforms into an item with different art and no longer has sockets

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right now only resonators can have DV sockets

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a fossil doesn't have anything interesting in it's json, it's just another currency item

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it will have the subcategory "fossil" though

gritty olive Aug 28, 2018, 2:23 AM

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I wish it worked like slack but yeah

compact isle Aug 28, 2018, 2:24 AM

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yes, unless it is full

velvet fog Aug 28, 2018, 2:26 AM

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like gem properties?

compact isle Aug 28, 2018, 2:27 AM

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it was changed recently so I'll have to get back to you on that one

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still fixing the changes I've made for it sigh

worthy cape Aug 28, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Soon time for Patch Notes... I feel sorry for Arl 😃

gritty olive Aug 28, 2018, 8:37 PM

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It's not too bad tbh

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the nodes will be the most annoying part

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I saw that tabulas could have an abyssal socket

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so I have to remove only checking those for stygian vises

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🤔

pseudo ocean Aug 28, 2018, 11:51 PM

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hmm

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My mercury trade aint picking up the trade messages

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any ideas why?

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Nvm it fixed itself

brittle oasis Aug 29, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Is anyone familiar with a tool that can extract data from the game files? I'm interested in all the static data, mainly all the unique items and skill gems. I know the Delve patch isn't out, I'm fine with the Incursion one

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 1:09 AM

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https://github.com/OmegaK2/PyPoE

GitHub

OmegaK2/PyPoE

Collection of Python Tools for Path of Exile. Contribute to OmegaK2/PyPoE development by creating an account on GitHub.

gritty olive Aug 29, 2018, 1:10 AM

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@velvet fog when do you usually update your base item api

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for leagues

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 1:11 AM

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It's a direct SQL query, so when I got torrent and game files

brittle oasis Aug 29, 2018, 1:12 AM

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I love you. Tyvm

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 1:24 AM

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Item Filter https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2201188

Path of Exile

Forum - Announcements - Delve Patch Notes, Passive Tree and Item F...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

gritty olive Aug 29, 2018, 4:22 AM

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@timid hemlock I figured that this would happen, looks like we need a new game version to prevent 3_4 overriding 3_3 skill trees

timid hemlock Aug 29, 2018, 4:23 AM

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I don't like to add new game versions

normal trench Aug 29, 2018, 4:24 AM

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(

gritty olive Aug 29, 2018, 4:25 AM

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I can understand the sentiment there, since you can just download an older version of PoB

timid hemlock Aug 29, 2018, 4:26 AM

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PoB's game version system is only intended to be used for major patches

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There's too much hassle involved to justify using it for every patch

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 4:27 AM

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maybe a new column to address passive skill tree version?

timid hemlock Aug 29, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Even that's not entirely doable

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As the passive tree changes often require mechanical changes

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For example, the block calculation code can't work with both the 3.3 tree and the 3.4 tree

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 4:29 AM

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I think Nijiko just want to know the DPS based on which version

gritty olive Aug 29, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Nawh, I'd be for loading passive tree data, but I have a fallback system atm

deft jolt Aug 29, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Any way to apply a shaped/elder influence background to cdn images?

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Similar to how ?relic=1 works

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I'm currently using https://www.pathofexile.com/image/inventory/ShaperBackground.png?w=2&h=3&x=0&y=0 as a background but maybe there's an easier way

compact isle Aug 29, 2018, 5:23 AM

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that is the easiest way

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it can't be like ?relic=1 because the background changes depending on the x and y

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well I guess technically it could be... hmm...

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use https://web.poecdn.com instead btw

deft jolt Aug 29, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Ah cool, my bad

grave wren Aug 29, 2018, 5:33 AM

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We need a shaped avatar for novynn templarthumbsup

compact isle Aug 29, 2018, 5:37 AM

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ask and ye shall receive

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https://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Weapons/TwoHandWeapons/TwoHandSwords/Starforge.png?scale=1&scaleIndex=0&w=2&h=4&shaper=1

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elder=1 for the alternative of course

deft jolt Aug 29, 2018, 5:38 AM

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Very nice, thank you my man

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there are a couple of weird interactions with it

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for example https://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Armours/BodyArmours/BodyStr1C.png?w=2&h=3&shaper=1 without specifying the scale

compact isle Aug 29, 2018, 5:42 AM

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oh boy that is a weird one

deft jolt Aug 29, 2018, 5:43 AM

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it seems that leaving out any of the size parameters creates something funky https://web.poecdn.com/image/Art/2DItems/Armours/BodyArmours/BodyStr1C.png?scale=1&h=3&shaper=1

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for example that incredibly long icon

compact isle Aug 29, 2018, 5:44 AM

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yeah just have to reorder some things

grave wren Aug 29, 2018, 5:50 AM

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I like that one

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 6:04 AM

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will we have a pre-download torrent for content.ggpk?

compact isle Aug 29, 2018, 6:10 AM

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probably but not confirmed yet

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@deft jolt yup, now requires h and w but should scale correctly

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keep in mind that it's upscaling so it'll look gross

deft jolt Aug 29, 2018, 6:20 AM

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👍

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should be fine for my usecase

gritty olive Aug 29, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Very cool @compact isle

chrome topaz Aug 29, 2018, 12:44 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9b7l5j/psa_for_filter_creators_dont_break_your_filters/ uh oh

r/pathofexile - [PSA] For Filter Creators - don't break your filte...

71 votes and 15 comments so far on Reddit

old heath Aug 29, 2018, 12:47 PM

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whoops

velvet fog Aug 29, 2018, 12:47 PM

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last minute modifies

old heath Aug 29, 2018, 1:33 PM

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I'm hoping we get the torrent soon Dx

mortal bone Aug 29, 2018, 1:43 PM

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https://github.com/PoESkillTree/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.7.7

GitHub

PoESkillTree/PoESkillTree

A Passive Skill Tree Planner for Path of Exile. Contribute to PoESkillTree/PoESkillTree development by creating an account on GitHub.

obtuse citrus Aug 29, 2018, 2:02 PM

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A steam branch with the content ggpk would be nice too in addition to the torrent

compact isle Aug 30, 2018, 12:20 AM

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@polar island "Applies to" will show up like this: "properties":[{"name":"Applies to","values":[["Weapons, Body Armour, Helmets, Gloves, Boots",0]],"displayMode":0}]

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does not apply is the same just with "Does not apply to" as the name

compact isle Aug 30, 2018, 12:57 AM

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there are 25 fossils each with a unique base type (no name) and they each do the exact same things

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so their applies to / does not apply to will be the same for the same base types

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however resonators will have different combinations depending on the fossils inside them of course

gritty olive Aug 30, 2018, 2:55 AM

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@compact isle do you have the scaled assets for the 3.4.0 passive tree 🤔

compact isle Aug 30, 2018, 3:14 AM

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they're in the zip file in that news post

gritty olive Aug 30, 2018, 3:15 AM

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hm

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I totes missed that

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@compact isle which one I think I am blind

compact isle Aug 30, 2018, 3:17 AM

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http://webcdn.pathofexile.com/public/news/Bex/PassiveSkillTree_340.zip

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oh right angles

gritty olive Aug 30, 2018, 3:17 AM

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huzzah \o/

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ty @compact isle

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We've listed the changes to the passive tree in the Patch Notes but if you're a community tool creator, you can find the JSON data >here<

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I totally see it now

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I figured it was just JSON

gray glade Aug 30, 2018, 9:41 AM

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hey can somebody send me an extract of the logs in the Client.txt? I don't have any sample logs to test right now and can't find some... I need like 20-50 lines, if possible don't include chat log

burnt fog Aug 30, 2018, 10:08 AM

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@gray glade PMd you

gray glade Aug 30, 2018, 10:18 AM

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Thanks!

velvet fog Aug 30, 2018, 11:57 AM

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DisableDropSound is new item filter command?

simple ravine Aug 30, 2018, 12:31 PM

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https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1034465671348985857

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I just had to.

worthy cape Aug 30, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Seems about right 😃

grave wren Aug 30, 2018, 4:57 PM

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https://www.humblebundle.com/books/machine-learning-books

Humble Bundle

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looks nice btw

mild lava Aug 30, 2018, 5:02 PM

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does someone know, when the new skills/items come into pob?

slow forge Aug 30, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Whenever GGG releases pre-load, so that Openarl could farm it for skill details

daring copper Aug 30, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Who runs poe mate?

simple ravine Aug 30, 2018, 6:48 PM

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I don't even know what that is

deft jolt Aug 30, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Don't think he's on discord

fluid wave Aug 30, 2018, 8:56 PM

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Is there a tool for seeing which drops you get and to calculate wealth over time?

deft jolt Aug 30, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Any information on how socketed resonators will appear as in the stash api?

old heath Aug 30, 2018, 10:09 PM

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@fluid wave CurrencyCop?

fluid wave Aug 30, 2018, 10:09 PM

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@old heath Yeah I found it too, thanks!

runic narwhal Aug 30, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Does anyone know how the .dat file formats are datamined? Like the info used in various tools like Pypoe Libggpk concerning for example active skills or whatever it may be. I realize there is some parsing of the .dat files going on but I don't understand where the names come from, is it just manual labour?

velvet fog Aug 30, 2018, 11:49 PM

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PyPoE/poe/file/specification/data/stable.py

runic narwhal Aug 30, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Yea I've looked at the file and compared it to the .dat files and stuff but I don't understand how you have resolved the types / data structures. Just wondering

timid hemlock Aug 30, 2018, 11:50 PM

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It's all reverse engineered; Omega_K2 did most of the work

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He's a god ❤

runic narwhal Aug 30, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Oh wow alright, I had a go at it but I'm no RE wizard so I didn't get too far. Impressive work lol. Thanks for clarification

velvet fog Aug 30, 2018, 11:52 PM

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you can get column size from first 4 bytes, and use some tools to verify each column

timid hemlock Aug 30, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Yeah, getting the types isn't overly difficult

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Interpreting them is the fun part, though 😄

velvet fog Aug 30, 2018, 11:53 PM

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not fun >"<

timid hemlock Aug 30, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Tell me about it 😛

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 1:31 AM

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@compact isle Any word on .torrent ggpk?

compact isle Aug 31, 2018, 1:53 AM

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No

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 1:53 AM

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@timid hemlock When opening PoB, it freezes for a while and cursor goes into slowmotion for ~5-10 seconds (UI except title bar is black during this timeframe). Not sure what happened, this started happening a few weeks ago.

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Just forgot to ping you about it

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Blame it on drivers 😄

runic narwhal Aug 31, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Are we allowed to get a handle to the PoE window? Im asking because I want to write a tool that should only receive input while PoE is the active window.

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 1:54 AM

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(That is probably the cause, though)

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 1:54 AM

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hmm

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@runic narwhal I dont think that should be a problem, as long as you don't hook into it

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@timid hemlock which OpenGL version are you targeting?

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 1:59 AM

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No idea

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 1:59 AM

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perhaps I'll try to version override it

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 1:59 AM

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The renderer only uses fixed-function

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So basically.... OpenGL 2.0-ish 😛

old heath Aug 31, 2018, 2:00 AM

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@runic narwhal you can use winapi to get current active window, and opening a handle to the window should be fine, regardless

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 2:00 AM

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📎 unknown.png

runic narwhal Aug 31, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Alright yea Im gonna use winapi.. you never know these days some other games have pretty crazy anticheats that just flag anything that touches anything

old heath Aug 31, 2018, 2:01 AM

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This game has a pretty lax anticheat, but strong cheat detection

runic narwhal Aug 31, 2018, 2:01 AM

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I guess it mostly bans on some heurestics that identify bots or something?

old heath Aug 31, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Not bots specifically, just cheats in general

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Regardless of how they do cheat detection, asking for a window handle won't get you banned lol

runic narwhal Aug 31, 2018, 2:03 AM

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I'll trust you on that one then

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 2:08 AM

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@timid hemlock Figured it out, and for future reference: Recall when we tried to figure out the multi-monitor issue? I tried compatibility mode (Windows 8). I was gonna try to turn that on now, and noticed it was on, and turned it off, and voila.

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 2:08 AM

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O_O

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Well then.

old heath Aug 31, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Wat lol

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Just in case anyone else has issues

grave wren Aug 31, 2018, 6:11 AM

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New java licensing is a joke 🐸

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Waiting for Openarl going rampage

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again

grave wren Aug 31, 2018, 6:48 AM

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Does he use Biscos?

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 7:43 AM

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Still no torrent

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/sweats profusely

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My people need me and I cannot provide for them :S

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 7:50 AM

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Openarl drain my energy

slow forge Aug 31, 2018, 7:53 AM

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Right on time @timid hemlock

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 7:53 AM

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now you can

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 7:53 AM

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:O:O:O

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TO THE POBMOBILE

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 7:54 AM

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lets try out my 1Gbit/s Bandwith

slow forge Aug 31, 2018, 7:54 AM

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duelist

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 7:54 AM

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lets try out my not-1Gbit/s Shittyaustralianintertubebandwidth

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 7:55 AM

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seed more òó

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 7:56 AM

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No amount of seeding is going to help me :/

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 7:56 AM

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dont worry

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i only got 200 KB/s Download but 2 MB/s Upload

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 7:57 AM

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we really need some torrent courier service for openarl. Someone next to a massive datacenter needs to download it and drive it to him.

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 7:58 AM

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📎 Brieftauben3.png

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usb stick and lets go

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Still away from PC, transfer Data/ and Metadata/StatsDescriptions/ if you downloaded, thanks

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 7:58 AM

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ETA 2h

slow forge Aug 31, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Not too bad

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 7:59 AM

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Plus an hour to turn the data the right way up

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This is Australia after all :/

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 8:00 AM

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Chris said he removed all Delve datas

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 8:00 AM

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Yeah I saw that

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The stuff I need should still be there though

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I hope :/

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Otherwise the peasants will definitely revolt 😄

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Nope, if no Data/

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Literal riots if that isn't there

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But I'd presume they'd just strip out the Delve ones

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 8:04 AM

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What? The torrent is cleansed of "spoilers" this time?

spice fjord Aug 31, 2018, 8:09 AM

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can sb resend torrent link, pls?

slow forge Aug 31, 2018, 8:09 AM

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#old-game-news

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 8:12 AM

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https://web.poecdn.com/public/DelveContentPreload.zip.torrent

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:07 AM

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4 hours how -_-

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FML

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And then it won't contain the .dat files because Chris is a big meanie

wooden notch Aug 31, 2018, 9:10 AM

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gives energy.

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:10 AM

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I don't need energy

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I need better internet :/

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And possibly the .dat files that GGG left out :/

wooden notch Aug 31, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Chris is a big meanie yep

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:11 AM

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I gather noone here has found out if they're actually in the .ggpk or not?

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:13 AM

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start download torrent now

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:38 AM

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@timid hemlock do you finished the download? you use PyPoe or convert .dat by yourself?

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:38 AM

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It does have a lot of .dat files. Not sure if any of the important ones are missing.

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:38 AM

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I'm not even halfway through

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And I do use PyPoE

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How many is a lot?

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:39 AM

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about 40+ new .dat

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:39 AM

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The old ones all seem to still be there

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Good

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 9:42 AM

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oh boy people are already asking if PoB will be updated soon

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Yeah :/

deft jolt Aug 31, 2018, 9:42 AM

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take my internet speed

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Now going to take 11h

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Sigh

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I'll need the .dat files from someone

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:43 AM

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"FileNotFoundError: /Data/BaseItemTypes.dat not found" RIP

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Fuck me

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Well, that's me done for today then

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:44 AM

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ya, me 2

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sleeping time

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:44 AM

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If ActiveSkills and GrantedEffects(PerLevel) are there then maaaaaybe I can hack some skills

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SkillGems too

wooden notch Aug 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Thanks for trying anyway Openarl.

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I can't, all my sql where from BaseItemTypes

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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might have to post an announcement if you cant update pob lul

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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@timid hemlock those are there

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Ok

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Well, let's see then

sturdy lark Aug 31, 2018, 9:46 AM

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I'm not sleeping till PoB update

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Stock up on coffee then, boy!

sturdy lark Aug 31, 2018, 9:46 AM

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hahaha

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I understand your internet speed woes

wooden notch Aug 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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My build is pretty much the same just minus updated CA and Herald of Agony. I'll live if it doesn't get updated lol

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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ActiveSkills, GrantedEffects and GrantedEffectsPerLevel have specification errors

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Naturally

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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ya, every patch

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:47 AM

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I can work around those, if Omega hasn't patched yet

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Have fun!

📎 dats.zip

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Fark, BaseItemTypes being missing will cause all manner of problems

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 9:50 AM

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ya...

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I can't mapping anything

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 9:55 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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I like internet

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@timid hemlock try to just grab the baseitemtypes from somewhere old

woeful sphinx Aug 31, 2018, 9:56 AM

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These are the dat files that are there

📎 Data.zip

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 9:56 AM

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sure, so for skill stuff

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just fall back on previous version

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:00 AM

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It won't have the new ones though

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Fuck, the new files won't even map correctly to the old BaseItemTypes

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Siiiidfgopifihigdfphoipo

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Am I really going to have to hardcode literally all of them -_-

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 10:06 AM

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throw a public tantrum on reddit and go to bed

wispy epoch Aug 31, 2018, 10:09 AM

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is PoB updated?

slow forge Aug 31, 2018, 10:10 AM

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Scroll up chat just a tad bit, mate

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 10:10 AM

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I think I have an appropriate gif for that response

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but it's not even worth the energy

slow forge Aug 31, 2018, 10:10 AM

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templarLul

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 10:15 AM

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how to extract

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oh

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discord scammed me

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 10:17 AM

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i think you scammed yourself mate

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 10:19 AM

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I give up, to hard to do anything without BaseItemTypes

thick elm Aug 31, 2018, 10:19 AM

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no PoB?

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😦

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gonna hang myself with the pistol now

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:20 AM

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Mmm

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I'm just sitting here eating dinner and trying to work out how screwed I am

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It might be doable

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But not easily

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 10:21 AM

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I will wait till game launch, just 9 hours, fine for me

primal niche Aug 31, 2018, 10:23 AM

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Openarl. Seems like PoB has mobile version

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Not poemate

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actual PoB

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:23 AM

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Yes, I know about that one

primal niche Aug 31, 2018, 10:24 AM

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Your work ? 😄

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:24 AM

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No

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I had no knowledge or involvement at all

primal niche Aug 31, 2018, 10:24 AM

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Okay

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Still

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I can now waste hours in school making builds

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😄

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During lunch breaks etc ofc

fallow tide Aug 31, 2018, 10:35 AM

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Openarl do you think you can do it prior to launch?

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:35 AM

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Not sure

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The more I think about it, the worse the problems get

fallow tide Aug 31, 2018, 10:36 AM

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I see

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Good luck!

grave wren Aug 31, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Yeah I'd not worry. Just enjoy the rest of the day

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Well, night....

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It's 8:40PM

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 10:42 AM

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im just gonna keep telling people to expect no updates b4 launch

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if there is one theyll just be pleasantly surprised

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pepehappy

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:42 AM

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That does however allow me to see the light from the pitchfork-bearer's torches flickering on my curtains though...

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They are getting rowdy out there!

fallow tide Aug 31, 2018, 10:43 AM

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Yeah cause 100% they have the right to complain that the app that they didnt pay a DIME for doesnt update
/s

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:44 AM

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😄

wispy epoch Aug 31, 2018, 10:44 AM

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@primal niche I do a little sleep in the afternoon here (EU) because of 10pm start... preparing for the night

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 10:44 AM

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havent seen anyone DEMAND an update yet

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but they are asking if there is going to be one

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Neither did I, I think most of ppl how hard it is, and how much work you need to do tbh

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Yeah

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A lot of people seem to expect miracles though

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Anyway, I've seen a possible path to getting the skills exporting

uneven wren Aug 31, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Nah if you post something on the sub explaining what's up people will be understanding

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:46 AM

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But it's going to suck

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Oh, I did already in the give-openarl-energy thread

bold edge Aug 31, 2018, 10:46 AM

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@timid hemlock man, chill...its okay if we dont have the updated PoB before the league

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its not the end of the world or something

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:46 AM

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I expect a miracle : PoB being officially supported by PoE because it's like almost necessary to play ^^

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 10:48 AM

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I could try my library, it's less cranky with column mismatches, if that's the case

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Won't help when there's entire data files missing

sturdy lark Aug 31, 2018, 10:50 AM

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I'm off to bed ready for the league. Good luck with any solution you try Openarl

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:51 AM

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I'm really mad at GGG for throwing you under the bus like that. They must know that people like to know what they will be playing when they are releasing and reworking a billion skills.

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:52 AM

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I wouldn't put it that harshly

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:53 AM

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Well creating new skills isnt the problem, but not giving data to you is kinda... not nice ^^

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 10:53 AM

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ggg dont owe us shit tho

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:53 AM

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They might not have been aware that I needed that file

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Or even been thinking about me at all

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Which is possible

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Because it is almost possible to do it normally

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:53 AM

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Well they cannot fail to see ppl asking for PoB update date

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:53 AM

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I'm just missing one ancillary .dat file

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Thought about getting in contact with them?

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They might just...give it to you 😄

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:54 AM

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I did that a while ago

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Well, Bex did on my behalf

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But they didn't consider it practical to provide me with those files beforehand

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:55 AM

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😦

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:56 AM

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What does it change? I mean, they aldready showcased them...

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Even if some may be still buged or idk what

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:56 AM

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People like to know the calculated numbers through PoB before commiting dozens of hours into a build

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:57 AM

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yep

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 10:57 AM

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there are plenty at GGG that disagree with this though

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:57 AM

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You mean what it would change if they provided him with the files?

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 10:57 AM

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theres clearly something

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:58 AM

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I think it's about preventing favorism towards people outside of GGG

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 10:58 AM

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That happens anyway; I get the passive tree data early

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Well anyways, I dont know how it is xactly, but I hope GGG recognize tool devs and help them as much as possible

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 10:58 AM

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and to an extent, you'd just have to respect that this is their game, and officially, we're not even supposed to use these files

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but yeah

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 10:59 AM

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yeah it's true

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but PoB is like... it actually should be a part of PoE

faint remnant Aug 31, 2018, 10:59 AM

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It's understandable with the new crafting that they don't want toooo many spoilers. It just sucks that it broke openarls process...

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Yeah ...

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 11:00 AM

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such is life

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Well anyway I cant really help you with it, so I'll just wish you good luck 😉

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and thank you for everything guys 😃

bold edge Aug 31, 2018, 11:02 AM

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@unkempt abyss you will get the data when they officially release the update, Chris said he leave delve data outside of the torrent.

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:02 AM

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I dont even need it tbh

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Just, some ppl are getting impatient and demanding updates, and it's not fair that openarl is the one suffering it, since he isnt even responsible

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I mean, impatient people are the main problem

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 11:04 AM

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theres an easy solution for that

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:04 AM

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But things could be smoother for everyone

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 11:04 AM

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pepegun

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Achievements were removed by Chris too, just wait for game launch

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 11:05 AM

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oh right they didnt announce challenges

grave wren Aug 31, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Yeah easy solution people need to chill out

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:05 AM

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yup

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 11:07 AM

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One could argue however, considering the data will be mined as soon as the actual patch is released, that a few hours prior wouldn't matter much for GGG.

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 11:08 AM

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yea but muh....spoilers? i guess

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:08 AM

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aldready showcased as I said

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bugs I think

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 11:08 AM

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It's one thing that they want to control the narrative for marketing purposes prior to launch

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:08 AM

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well bug fear*

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 11:09 AM

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the .dat file only contains information, no logic @unkempt abyss

quaint field Aug 31, 2018, 11:09 AM

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yea shit will probably be bugged

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:13 AM

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oh ok

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well no reason then ^^, or maybe last balance details etc

simple ravine Aug 31, 2018, 11:15 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

primal niche Aug 31, 2018, 11:22 AM

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@wispy epoch If you dont play when the league starts and instead go sleep early you will not f up you sleep schedule so you can play more the upcoming when the ppl who played right after launch will be sleepy and thus not focused on game so you can get into lead exaltThink

unkempt abyss Aug 31, 2018, 11:22 AM

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mouhaha

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Nice strat

timid hemlock Aug 31, 2018, 11:29 AM

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Good news! I've managed to export skills

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.... Just not the new ones :/

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Holy mother of Dominus is it hacky though

velvet fog Aug 31, 2018, 11:30 AM

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WoW