tooldev-general

[fickle yew]

Thanks!

[grave wren]

6mo 🐸

[worthy cape]

So happy I'm far enough from the GDPR responsibilities on our site. Applying it properly to a government entity (universities) seems like bags of fun.

[grave wren]

Bags of cans of worms

[simple ravine]

@fickle yew haha yeah, I was getting some Azure e-mails from Microsoft and in Azure Customer Advisory Team group about GDPR webinars and how you guys can help me with GDPR compliancy. Same with ASP.NET Core, if I recall correctly

GDPR and event sourcing is a b*tch thoguh

[fickle yew]

Yup, it is. I'm happy we're taking it very seriously though.

That's why it was so much work 😃

[hazy fog]

this ad on my novel reading site 🤔

[grave wren]

💸

[jade adder]

I don't think you have to be able to code to work at a startup you just have to have a Can-do Attitude!

At least thats what most of the ads say

[hazy fog]

well this ad says differently

[jade adder]

I did one of those coding test interview recruiting company things early on

but i've heard that most recruiting companies take like 25% of your first year salary or something

sounds steep to me

[grave wren]

did 0 code interviews here in ger

\o/

[jade adder]

it was like an online one

where you have 25 minutes to answer the questions

they are just short shit like "finish this function to flip the string"

or whatever

can do it in whatever language you are comfortable with

[grave wren]

but why

i only see merrit in doing it in person

if you can just go through the thought process together

online is just like super weird

@fickle yew is it wanted that online POBs from you can have no mainActiveSkill?

it fucked with my bot

:<

taken from https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/L1L_I3E4R_NoScope/LilBabby?i=0&search=item%3DHand-of-Wisdom-and-Action%2CMask-of-the-Stitched-Demon%26keystone%3D!Chaos-Inoculation

[grave wren]

same for tree activespec

e.g.

<Tree activeSpec="1">
        <Spec>
            <URL>
                   ...
        </Spec>
</Tree>

[worthy cape]

You people on Hetzner or OVH, do you run cloud, dedis or shared?

[fickle yew]

@grave wren i can fix that

But I specifically designed it to break your bot 🙃

[grave wren]

calling MS tech support right now

🐸

youre also missing playerstats but i think you didnt integrate pob headless yet, correct?

as of now i fixed the bot

it now displays:

much information, so wow

😄

[fickle yew]

Nope, I didn't. Actually working on my own calculations still, but - it's probably far away.

[grave wren]

ah gotcha then no hurry for me

cant really parse anything out either because i didnt get around to use headless pob

[fickle yew]

Just need to decide what to do for the people with 2 6 link skills..

for active skill

[grave wren]

roll(0,1)

:p

[fickle yew]

Something like that yeah.

Want to wrap up all trade sites support first though.

[grave wren]

making the real money now

[fickle yew]

Not really. Actually it's a problem for me to find a good trade icon.

My first prototype used $... and people associated it with RMT

[grave wren]

easy hire a designer!

one trade icon

or how do you want to display stuff

[fickle yew]

I think that's a bit beyond my budget 😃

But I can trade setting mainActiveSkill for a trade icon...

[grave wren]

🐸

dont let the mods see that

question still stands

how does it work then

3 icons for the sites

or 1 icon with hover stuff

need a bit more info

[fickle yew]

1 icon, 3 sites enter, 1 comes out on top.

[grave wren]

me no understand :p

[fickle yew]

I'll find one 😃

Most likely it'll just be an arrow or something

[grave wren]

i mean i dont understand how the interaction will work i can make one for you but its hard without knowing

atm you display one link to poe.trade

you could show three icons for the sites

[grave wren]

or do some weird stuff and hovers

oh

[fickle yew]

And saves it once you pick one.

[worthy cape]

@polar island yeah, single instance stuff thus far, bunch of containers for silly reqs

[fickle yew]

and the icon there will match the icon that's replacing the purple (at)

Sorry @worthy cape - Discord autocompletes to you when just writing an (at) sign 😃

Probably because you were the last to write.

[grave wren]

because you love him

secretly

❤

[fickle yew]

Shhh

[worthy cape]

Mostly concerned as to how stable they are w.r.t uptime and IPs changing, as my stuff is rather inflexible. I know how bad the private cloud at work is 😉

[fickle yew]

@worthy cape I run Hetzner Cloud atm. No issues.

But also didn't have any issues with Linode or Azure.

[worthy cape]

Currently overpaying at $20 for a Linode, would be nice to scale down a bit.

[fickle yew]

Linode shut down machines twice due to Spectre / Meltdown

[worthy cape]

Not restreaming video anymore thankfully.

[grave wren]

@fickle yew

why not something like this

[fickle yew]

Because most people don't use all 3.

[grave wren]

but its basically only beneficial to show all of them

[fickle yew]

And I want to save my horizontal space.. and the complexity of the ui 😃

[grave wren]

hm dunno

you introduce a dropdown which also introduces some issues

personal taste i'd say

[fickle yew]

Yeah

[grave wren]

not a fan of dropdowns in general

[fickle yew]

Your idea isn't bad either.

I'd just prefer to try and save a bit of horizontal space.

Stuff like skill gems is already very crowded

[grave wren]

could show a vaal orb if its corrupted

not sure if its a good idea :>

[fickle yew]

People will just try to apply it to the site 😃

[grave wren]

what about a button group toggle

[fickle yew]

Too wide

[grave wren]

with the icons?

Hm

[fickle yew]

poe.trade / poeapp.com / pathofexile.com/trade

long 😃

[grave wren]

i'd say use the icons

you could also put the selection of the trade site in the header

if you want to keep it globally

[fickle yew]

Also considered a settings page.

[grave wren]

same for show low confidence

[fickle yew]

For any future stuff

[grave wren]

basically extract stuff that is important for the local state

and what is usable globally

then again i took like 2 courses of UI/UX stuff and they were shit

\o/

[fickle yew]

Hehe

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see what makes sense 😃

Or tweak later.

[grave wren]

welcome

if you never read it

[fickle yew]

Gotta finish this so I can move on to mainActiveSkill..

[grave wren]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/840.The_Design_of_Everyday_Things

nice read

:p

the amount of shit apis i need to integrate at work is staggering btw

[fickle yew]

😃

[grave wren]

like you literally get a 20p pdf with REST routes

with tables containing multiple attributes of entities

https://s3.amazonaws.com/titlepages.leanpub.com/surviving-other-peoples-web-apis/hero?1518079732

also no need for the change i cant really use it either way atm

and the bot doesnt fuck up with those pastebins anymore

so its nice

😄

probably... let's see

!pob https://pastebin.com/KJRSApaL

[regal mural]

Undefined - Ascendant (Lvl: 93) by: Faust

Main Skill

None selected

Info:

Pastebin | WebTree - powered by Path of Building.

[grave wren]

✅

i also just noticed that discord really doesnt show the shortened urls

i thought the tooltip on hover showed urls

that is a huge issue

how did i not know mermaid

https://mermaidjs.github.io/

i literally used magic draw shit at work

😐

yep thats what i used for the next step

my main gripe with diagrams is keeping them up to date

so maybe mermaid will work a bit better

but who knows

[old heath]

@timid hemlock Will item granted skills ever get proper "support" links for them?

[gritty olive]

@fickle yew what does that dropdown do?

also did the api change?

[fickle yew]

@gritty olive It let's you pick which trade site you want to use if you navigate from ninja?

It's only been poe.trade so far, but people have been requesting the other 2 for a while.

[gritty olive]

Do you aggregate stats from all 3 or only ninja?

or do you use the river, I think you use the river, I think that's in the about

I haven't had coffee yet

[fickle yew]

I only use the river.

This is only for linking to actual trade listings.

Clicking that icon

[gritty olive]

you know

you could put a little [v] arrow next to that

when you press it lets you change the site

if you're worried about space

[fickle yew]

I know, that's one of the solutions I considered 😃

and might switch to that one.

But for now it'll be a dropdown.

[gritty olive]

Either wfm

[grave wren]

seems too hidden imo

[fickle yew]

It's highlighted if you haven't picked.

[gritty olive]

It's one of those fancy new mobile patterns

[fickle yew]

Most people will pick once.

[gritty olive]

Another mobile pattern is long press to select

#justuiux

[grave wren]

is not mobile site though

[fickle yew]

I could also pick it by letting people draw the logo of the trade site they want to use with their mouse..

[grave wren]

could also just remove poe.trade

[gritty olive]

draw that path of exile logo

[grave wren]

i heard its a gonner

[fickle yew]

poe.trade is still the default if people don't pick one.

[grave wren]

was hinting at the outrage at xyz because the api was slow af

[fickle yew]

Yeah I've seen the threads :/

For direct links poe.trade is really hard to beat though. Results are there instantly.

[grave wren]

lessons learned: ignore reddit

\o

[fickle yew]

Ay those threads haven't been very factual.

I'll remain neutral and let people pick the site they want though.

[grave wren]

until allan pays up

😉

[fickle yew]

Obviously.

[slow forge]

@old heath Some skills, such as Manifest Dancing Dervish, Blight from Allelopathy etc. already are supported

You just have to select where supports are socketed

[grave wren]

It does not sort supports by dps though

[old heath]

^

You can't sort the gems for the skill

[cosmic saffron]

make the icon a chaos orb and you have to click on one of the faces to swap trade sites

[hazy fog]

logo 🤔

does poetrade have a logo

[cosmic saffron]

[allan add logo]

[hazy fog]

I gues it's a purple @ sign

[cosmic saffron]

yep

is poeapp's official icon the gradient square or circle

[timid hemlock]

@old heath Yup, although it'll be a right tit to implement

[old heath]

@timid hemlock What prevents you from adding it as a gem that's just hidden from gem groups that are socketed in that item?

[timid hemlock]

That won't work at all

I can think of about 3 reasons why, too :/

[old heath]

😦

[gritty olive]

@fickle yew whats going on with standard tabula rasas, you say there are only 3 results but I see a few hundred on trade sites

It's currently priced at 37k chaos on poe.ninja

there is no variant, prophecyText, or modifiers that differentiate the two tabula results either

trying to decide whether I can rely on the id or not

Ohhh, there are no links on the bad one 🤔 I can rely on that I guess

That worked, very interesting

[old heath]

🤔

Tabula Rasa?

Maybe I'm going insane, but that sounds more like Atziri's Reflection

[old heath]

wtf

[gritty olive]

I know, it has been destroying peoples portfolios in currency cop, so I just released a fix

[old heath]

What are the search terms to even get that to pop up?

[gritty olive]

Just turn on low confidence

[old heath]

Ah oaky

[gritty olive]

If you disable low confidence when pricing items you miss variants and people actually complain about that, so losing battle...

[old heath]

I don't even see a Tabula listed for 250ex

The highest one I see is 50

[gritty olive]

click the confidence in standard league

https://poe.ninja/standard/unique-armours

[cosmic saffron]

lol it's somebody posting vorici-bricked tabulas http://poe.trade/search/itarutukomawoy

so it's getting caught in the non-6l results for tabula

[gritty olive]

there are some non bricked there too

[cosmic saffron]

right, just examine the queries

the normal one (28c) is 6 and only 6l, the other one that gets enabled by low confidence doesn't specify a max

[fickle yew]

@gritty olive that's why I don't show low confidence. I can't stop people from doing silly stuff like that

And yeah. The link for the trade search is only set for 5 and 6

But the data does respect the set categories.

Tabulas under 6 links are a special case that can probably just be ignored completely, but in most other low data situations I have no idea whether something is valuable or not.

[grave wren]

get the community experts on it

:p

[deft jolt]

Its a pain I'll admit that

[slow forge]

Either I only just noticed it or poe.ninja now has full titles for tabs

I think this just used to say "PoE Ninja"

[gritty olive]

@compact isle is there a way to get rate-limit values without impacting rate-limit values?

[compact isle]

not currently, no

[fickle yew]

@slow forge Yep, I changed that this week.

[velvet fog]

https://app.swaggerhub.com/apis/Chuanhsing/poe/1.0.0

• add trade search

[worthy cape]

Documentation? Such madness 😃

[gritty olive]

bout to release an update that has a migration step for portfolios 🤞

[slow forge]

@fickle yew Someone finally farming karma on new features https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8tkj61/poeninja_now_supports_multiple_trade_sites/

[fickle yew]

Heh, yeah. What browser is he using though? The site looks kind of weird.

Hm, probably because he has no background displaying for some reason.,

[slow forge]

Custom CSS perhaps

[worthy cape]

Font hinting and dropdown icon kind of smells like some Linux environment.

@fickle yew I see that the helpful reddit crowd is discussing the icon for the external site thingie. Have you considered using an "external link" glyph?

Not sure if it's present in icomoon, their site doesn't have a decent search 😃

[fickle yew]

@worthy cape A square with a diagonal arrow pointing out?

[grave wren]

Check ou5 fontawesome

It has lots of icons for free

[hazy fog]

we use FA at work

[fickle yew]

I think I'll try the search icon for a while

[chrome topaz]

The goal of this site isn't to change how trading works, but to provide more options for our players. It doesn't really matter which site you use, but it does matter that there's always one available and in your language. We also hope that additional features we add over time help reduce certain frustrations related to trade. API changes like the AFK/DND information will of course be available for external trade sites to use.

[hazy fog]

🤔

you salty xyz?

kekekek

[grave wren]

🎣

[chrome topaz]

pretty salty

gonna have to finance the second yacht now

[grave wren]

[simple ravine]

seen much traffic drop @chrome topaz?

[grave wren]

pls no salt in the wounds

[simple ravine]

i'm genuinely curious... I still use poe.trade because of habit

[grave wren]

same

i actually just dont want xyz to starve

😦

probably should use past tense now:

[simple ravine]

huh

[grave wren]

overcame a1 ssfhc obviously never going back to non ssfhc!

😄

[simple ravine]

haha

right

[velvet fog]

description
    1 frost_bolt_nova_duration_+%
    2
        1|# "%1%%% increased Vortex Duration"
        #|-1 "%1%%% reduced Vortex Duration" negate 1

[delicate ore]

new enchant?

or reworked mechanic?

[velvet fog]

frost_bolt_nova_duration vs. Vortex Duration, just fell strange

[delicate ore]

yea

oh i get why

they intended for vortex to be used that way from the beginning

but, they didnt know how underwhelming the interaction was

i guess

[hazy fog]

the problem is two 6l where the vortex one is so underwhelming

[delicate ore]

in my opinion

vortex should cast on all available frostbolts

and shotgun

like if you GMP it

not every group though

just one group of multiple projectiles at a time

[gritty olive]

@compact isle any news on when we are going to get that map tab api

I was surprised to see fragment tab got api support

[simple ravine]

fragment tab aren't multiple tabs in one, which he said was he issue last time

[gritty olive]

Well aware, considering the blog post about how nuanced it was to make that tab, I was surprised to see api support as well

[compact isle]

it's still on the backburner, but not much of a priority

zensei is correct, the complications come from having subtabs

[gritty olive]

I only get around 8-10 messages a day about it, so it's not too bad

Well aware of complications

[velvet fog]

how to use index on explicits search? Im using mysql json to store the explicits like

{"1": 66, "7": 34, "14": 28, "15": 38, "46": 13, "109": 34}

[remote yoke]

Nice modified field coloring @polar island

[remote yoke]

I like it.

Nice to see at a glance which fields have been modified.

[echo hazel]

How much storage space is required for a database of all publicly available PoE items? I wanted to start figuring out how to manage an SQL database with Python so I could make one like that to apply my own filters to but if it would take more storage than I have available (1.5TB) it wouldn't be worth it.

[worthy cape]

@echo hazel Search history says something like 52 gigabytes one month ago for public stashes.

[echo hazel]

Ok, thanks.

[worthy cape]

As for how to bootstrap it, I guess you've got to use the API and then follow the stream of updates or something. Never touched the APIs myself.

[fickle yew]

Yeah. You just start without a change id and follow the river. When you hit the tip, you'll usually see smaller batches of json per request.

The first large part of the river is old Standard and Hardcore stash tabs though.

If you just want to start testing, I suggest grabbing the latest change id from http://poe.ninja/stats and starting there. It'll put you straight into challenge leagues.

and there's plenty of data there for any debugging and testing you want to do

[remote yoke]

I think Currency Cop needs to run a check on corruptions for gem pricing, @gritty olive. Noticed a gem priced at uncorrupted levels while corrupted.

[gritty olive]

I should build tests for that

[gritty olive]

pushed out a release with fixes thanks to @remote yoke 🎉

[grave wren]

Patchumz please receive ad

[cursive bluff]

@fickle yew question regarding a fairly specific difference:
http://poe.ninja/challengehc/unique-jewels?filter=grand
http://poe.ninja/challengehc/unique-jewels?filter=combat

Both Grand Spectrum and Combat Focus have 3 variants (Cobalt, Crimson, Viridian), but only Grand Spectrum shows the 3 variants as separate items (and separate price histories), Combat Focus does not. is that something that has to be handled on your side? or is it somehow supposed to be automatically split?

Additionally, the hover-over for Combat Focus shows all 3 stat variants, rather than 1 per jewel type.

Thanks in advance!

[fickle yew]

@cursive bluff I'll take a look at splitting Combat Focus. Thanks,

[deft jolt]

even after i informed you smh

[simple ravine]

@timid hemlock Not sure what's going on with PoB lately. I've opened PoB, and it's just black and consuming 100% of one core. The only thing that seems to fix this is reinstalling PoB.

[timid hemlock]

@simple ravine Using multiple monitors?

[simple ravine]

@timid hemlock yes

[timid hemlock]

Putting PoB on non-primary monitor?

[simple ravine]

yes

[timid hemlock]

Then you're having this: https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/issues/336

Old issue; it's resisted every attempt I've made to fix or properly diagnose it

[simple ravine]

Hmm, I can't recall this being an issue before however

[timid hemlock]

Anything changed on your system recently?

Also, what OS?

[simple ravine]

Windows 10, latest update

The only thing I can think of that would be somewhat related is GPU upgrade from 1070 to 1080 Ti

[timid hemlock]

Interesting

I've suspected for a while that it's GPU or display driver related

I know that it's Nvidia-specific

[simple ravine]

hmm

I'll tinker a little with nvidie profile inspector

OpenGL or DirectX, @timid hemlock ?

[timid hemlock]

OpenGL

[simple ravine]

ok

Can't seem to find any flags that fixes it... Just to re-iterate, I've had multiple monitors for a long time, and this has never happened before.

[timid hemlock]

Yeah, something definitely changed

[simple ravine]

Now where do I find that config file 😃 found it

[worthy cape]

Did you install NV drivers after doing so, or are you on Windows Update's half-arsed ones?

[gritty olive]

nvidia just release new drivers yesterday?

[simple ravine]

@worthy cape Using nvidia released ones.

[hasty creek]

I got a 1080ti and experience the same issue described in the linked github issue @timid hemlock . 2nd monitor is connected through dvi-d (if that matters at all). However we did go through a series of attempts to solve it earlier, without much luck.

[timid hemlock]

Yeah that one's got me stumped

I know where the problem is occurring, but I have no idea what the trigger is

[grave wren]

970 no issues

Trading 970 for 1080ti

[simple ravine]

heh... nice try Faust 😅

[grave wren]

I mean I just upgraded to a 2700x from 3570k

Would be a nice fit

😁

[simple ravine]

nothing goes well with an AMD

[grave wren]

🤷

pob works for me

is fine

[worthy cape]

Set up a machine with some monitors to see if I could tease the problem out, but the GPU in it is too old for NV to have accelerated drivers <_<

7300GT 😛

[simple ravine]

sounds like something that's 10-15 years old hehe

[worthy cape]

My Ryzen machines don't have any onboard video, so I had to dig out my Very Old cards to get consoles on them.

Tempted to buy a 1030 or 1050 just to have lying around, but it's a wee bit too expensive to impulse buy 😃

[west crypt]

how do i read this? what's the actual single target mana leeched per second?

[jade adder]

after the = signs

103 leech per second per instance

6128 per second maximum

[pseudo ocean]

Do you think people would want a poe item live search on their phone? sends a push notification whenever an item is found

[grave wren]

How would I pm people from my phone

[pseudo ocean]

good point

[cosmic saffron]

think we pushed some ideas of an escrow market thing but that was really close to botting because you can't rely on the other party to be honest

so there has to a main handler that would necessarily need to automatically send a message out to the shopper, verify purchase and then pickup/pay

[pseudo ocean]

This might be the wrong place to ask, but is there somewhere I can get assistance with an autoit script?

autohotkey even

[pseudo ocean]

guess nah

[jade adder]

@pseudo ocean if you ask your question there is a higher chance you will get help

[deft jolt]

Yeah don't ask to ask, just ask

[hazy fog]

we have a command for asking to ask

!ask

[quasi karma]

Don't ask to ask! Post your question here so that people actually know if they can help. It's also better to discuss your question publicly so more people can chime in or learn! That's why these channels are here!

[hazy fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNjxe8ShM-8 amusement for nerds

[pseudo ocean]

My "asking to ask" was more related to whether this was the place to ask. I don't wanna break no rules or nothin.
Anyway, here goes. When I simply use "^RButton::L" and bind my barrage (as opposed to t.shot on my regular right click) to L, holding ctrl and right-clicking works fine. The problem I have arises when I hold right click and press ctrl, I get stuck using my t.shot and have to right-click again or I can't move. This kills the ranger. Does anyone with some AHK knowledge know a more advanced but actually working way of doing it?

[gritty olive]

@hazy fog honestly thats amusement for anyone

[hazy fog]

unlikely

I don't think random real estate agent would care at all

[odd fog]

XD

[worthy cape]

It's amazing when you start getting meaningful output out of a file format - https://i.imgur.com/JryqcGz.png

If you squint, you can see a PerandusChestModel_07dc0372.smd 😛

[compact isle]

@fickle yew by the way, the query param on the trade site is a lot more flexible than you seem to be using at the moment, let me know if you'd like some tips 😄

[velvet fog]

more APIs? will is open to all users?

I'm trying to make something like poe.ninja, but only in Chinese http://poedb.tw/price.php

[fickle yew]

@compact isle Any suggestions are welcome 😃 This was more of a first stab to get everything working.

[fickle yew]

I spent all my time implementing the enchants.. They were not amusing.

[grave wren]

👌

[deft jolt]

@fickle yew does your site keep track of every single item listed through the river?

[wind garden]

i don't think it does

just notables

[compact isle]

@hazy fog mirrored filter was added in 3.3.1 btw 😅

@fickle yew the sort is by price by default, so you can omit that part. You can also omit online status (also the default). You don't need to give a stats group if you're not using stat filters.
Also you need to include base item type for unique searches (so for unique maps you need "name": "The Perandus Manor" and "type": "Chateau Map" for the search to work

I think that's all the things I could see after a brief glance 😄

[hazy fog]

hurray

better sniping

[velvet fog]

https://app.swaggerhub.com/apis/Chuanhsing/poe/1.0.0#/default/post_api_trade_search__league_

[pulsar moat]

hey @fickle yew , bug report for ya

Certain views don't display anything, but only for standard and on Firefox

Ex:
http://poe.ninja/standard/unique-armours
http://poe.ninja/standard/unique-weapons

(but these work in every other league, and say, accessories does display in standard)

Pic: https://i.imgur.com/gOluWGn.jpg

My info:
Firefox developer edition, 62.0b1 (64-bit)
Low confidence is on

There's an error in the dev console on this non-rendering pages too: https://hastebin.com/apiwalural.coffeescript

[hazy fog]

I see things on the first

[pulsar moat]

try turning low confidence on

[hazy fog]

and second

still works

[pulsar moat]

browser?

[hazy fog]

latest chrome release non beta

[pulsar moat]

Also works in Safari for me, may be a Firefox issue

[gritty olive]

@compact isle why can't you search for specific rare item names

[compact isle]

because we'd have to support that in all languages

currently all the data stored in the backend is language agnostic

[gritty olive]

That's whats stopping me from using it over poe.trade at least for that

[compact isle]

yeah it's on the list of things to do

reasonably high up there too

[hazy fog]

searching for bows named brood twine because the guide told you to use it

[wind garden]

lol

[fickle yew]

@pulsar moat I'll take a look and see if I can reproduce on Firefox. Thanks.

[pulsar moat]

@hazy fog you joke but I have seen that multiple times in my travels of global 1 through 10

"This rare mace, Dong Smasher, isn't on poe.trade!!!, where can I farm one?"

[worthy cape]

fwiw, happens on my Firefox Nightly on Win64.

[pulsar moat]

@worthy cape are you also using the official pathofexile.com search button option?

[worthy cape]

@pulsar moat It indeed only fails when that's the store of choice.

I think I had something similar to this when trying to bulk buy maps last night too.

[fickle yew]

I'll fix it after work 😃

[fickle yew]

@compact isle Thanks. I'll take a look at those things.. Most of the time was spent on enchant stuff getting ids etc... and then stuff like the Arc has +30% chance to shock that's... this:

@deft jolt Yup, all the ones I care about.

[grave wren]

🐸

[compact isle]

ah yes, thanks for bringing that up

[hazy fog]

@pulsar moat it's a joke because I've seen it too

[daring copper]

Are the poe lab fellas in here?

[hazy fog]

suit is on the server and poelab is too but they don't read much afaik

could ping them directly

[fickle yew]

@timid hemlock Wow. Do stat conversion jewels like Inertia actually put the stat in minus if two overlaps the same node?

[hazy fog]

yes

[timid hemlock]

@fickle yew I'll add another yes to that

[long zinc]

@timid hemlock The bubbling flask calculation in PoB seems to be outdated. A bug was fixed a while ago: 3.0.2. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2017128

Fixed a bug where increases and reductions to the effect of flasks were also being added to the percentage of recovery granted instantly by flasks with the "Bubbling" mod. This caused several issues if this percentage exceeded 100%.

There was a discussion here:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2169961

[timid hemlock]

Oh thanks, I forgot to fix that

The flask calculations are generally a bit outdated TBH

[long zinc]

I personally don't care too much about that feature to be honest, just found the discussion thread

So I can totally understand why they are outdated.

@compact isle I've got two bugs to report that both have a bit of an exploit-y aspect, consequently I think the bug forum is the wrong place. Should I just use the regular [e-mail] mail or what is the best channel for that?

[compact isle]

yeah support is still best, they will forward it on internally to whomever is appropriate

[long zinc]

ok, thanks

[gritty olive]

@compact isle any way you can make a button that turns this on by default instead of hover?

[compact isle]

yeah probably, the only reason why it isn't like that by default is because overlap and other gross issues

[gritty olive]

figured that was the reason, that's why maybe a button to enable it that's off by default so "its acceptable"

[compact isle]

or bug the game programmers to make their gross client data less gross 😄

but yep I'll mark that down

[gritty olive]

"yeah got a field report"
"make your data less gross"
"thanks"

[long zinc]

Roughly on that topic: Why did someone make the decision to use blue for prefix and red for suffix by the way, since poe.trade trained us exactly the other way around for years.

It took a good week for me to not get constantly confused by subconscious miscounting.

[compact isle]

oh... that will be my bad

I thought I did it the same way around

well that will be fixed whenever we have a patch next

[long zinc]

Oh and: When a mod is a combined prefix and suffix, the line is one colour, instead of each part having one colour. Not sure if that's nice to fix.
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Incursion/n7036Jh0

[compact isle]

hmm okay noted

[long zinc]

How does the website manage to properly split up combined affixes by the way? I've read multiple times that it uses the same river, but also that the other websites don't get the needed info.

[gritty olive]

Man this took a second but it's gr8 now

[compact isle]

hah! Interesting use of CSS there

we use the same river, but we get the items before they're turned into json so we have the full data set to use

[long zinc]

I see.

[gritty olive]

https://pastebin.com/J4gWeBhn

If anyone else wants it

[compact isle]

there's a pesky clear for me that breaks that stylesheet for me

[gritty olive]

🤔 what clear

[compact isle]

<div class="clear"></div>

ah I see you've updated it now

[gritty olive]

lol

oh man didn't know that dropdown was a fixed height

oh nvm

[slender citrus]

How do you setup lutbots price check? tooltip says 404 page not found

nvm, figured it out

[slow forge]

@timid hemlock Does PoB show damage per arrow for RoA?

[timid hemlock]

Everything is per-arrow

Or per-totem, per-minion, etc

[slow forge]

Also it would seem that stuff like Sacrificial Heart still hasn't received stat ranges

[timid hemlock]

Yeah, I haven't had time to do a final pass on the new uniques yet

[slow forge]

Another question about RoA, does the radius in Calcs tab showcase the AoE of one projectile, 'cus it's definitely too small to be entire RoA radius

[timid hemlock]

I'm not quite sure how the AoE on the new RoA works

The radius shown is just the old value

I don't know if it is still correct

[slow forge]

Not really, considering that without Conc, RoA is screen-wide

And this seems too big to be 1 projectile's AoE

[timid hemlock]

As I said, it's the pre-rework AoE that's shown there

It might not be useful at all now

But I haven't looked into it much yet

There's still a lot of skill changes I need to properly handle :/

[slow forge]

One thing is clear though, we need some GGG clarification on these things

[timid hemlock]

That I can agree on

[slow forge]

Considering how big PoB is, you could email Bex. See if you can ask some questions or just PM Mark on Reddit

[timid hemlock]

Maybe

[grave wren]

PM everyone

obtain answers

thanks

[hazy fog]

[simple ravine]

I can understand why people are a bit upset about 3rd party river vs 1st party river, considering how long GGG's been without their own trading site and all that. I think it would be a reasonable thing to do.

well, it's their prerogative as its their data, but it would be a nice thing to do

i'm encouraging them to do the right thing, for the right reason

i want to mutate my stash tabs via an API

nono... i want true potential of automation

like with acquisition and "forum store"

[long zinc]

It does not have to be much. All the roll brackets are available, so there is no need to add tons of stuff to the river (in case bloating the data is a concern). Writing 123 life as "123 (P4: 99; P3: 24)" or maybe even "123 (99+24)" should be enought extra information.

[simple ravine]

all actually needed is the modifier id and stat ids

and a static json feed of the translations and modifier ids

boom done

not very hard.

I think this was discussed before Christmas tbh

but I also said I was going to e-mail some proposals, and completely forgot about that

pretty much add this to each item:

    "extendedExplicitMods": [
        {
            "id": "AttackDamagePercent3",
            "stats": [
                {
                    "id": "attack_damage_+%",
                    "value": 23
                }
            ]
        }
    ]

it could be an iterative process

that's a breaking change though

but could enable that as a feature flag through a query parameter

I kind of want to group the stats into mods though

which you would need to do anyway, in your example too

suppose you have a hybrid mod for an example

[chrome topaz]

thanks tencent

[chrome topaz]

what's there to say

[simple ravine]

tier names?

AttackDamagePercent3 is a unique identifier

this would represent the "tier" in the modifier group

[simple ravine]

i dont think so

but in my perspective, it's a sound way of representing the information without assumptions on how the client wants to use it.

the downside is that the client would need a reference to this AttackDamagePercent3, but i think it outweighs the downsides, and also shouldn't be hard at all to provide for GGG

[velvet fog]

{
   "name":"Bloodthirsty",
   "tier":"P4",
   "magnitudes":[
      {
         "hash":"explicit.stat_1805374733",
         "min":110,
         "max":134
      }
   ]
},
{
   "name":"Mercenary's",
   "tier":"P5",
   "magnitudes":[
      {
         "hash":"explicit.stat_1805374733",
         "min":35,
         "max":44
      },
      {
         "hash":"explicit.stat_691932474",
         "min":51,
         "max":64
      }
   ]
}

[simple ravine]

@velvet fog what does the name say for uniques' modifiers

or implicits

[velvet fog]

for implicit and unique mods are empty

[simple ravine]

ok

then I think I still prefer my proposed alternative

as it can be relatable to actual modifiers

[velvet fog]

"implicit":[
   {
      "name":"",
      "tier":"",
      "magnitudes":[
         {
            "hash":"implicit.stat_3593843976",
            "min":2,
            "max":2
         }
      ]
   }
],

[gritty olive]

@fickle yew it looks like you have cloudflare captcha enabled for your API which is throwing 403s

[simple ravine]

rekt

[gritty olive]

Apparently it happens to the user on the site as well lol

[velvet fog]

name display on explicit, use Mod inner name confuse player

[fickle yew]

@gritty olive thanks for the heads up. Looks ok now. Might have been triggered by ExileParty, they were refreshing pretty aggressively per client.

[simple ravine]

caching is hard

[obsidian lark]

@simple ravine it's not hard, we did and still do it. Just got a bit overwhelmed by all the users. With that said it's still on us for not caching long enough but it was fixed in the release last night.

[grave wren]

zensei is a bully

😮

can anyone tell me if the expchart on the wiki is still accurate?

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Experience#Experience_table

[obsidian lark]

I would like to know that aswell!

[jade adder]

@obsidian lark should be accurate as of December 2017 nerfs but I'm not home to check a character between 95 and 100

faust just pulled the level 100 number for me so yes its correct

[obsidian lark]

@jade adder Thanks 😃

[grave wren]

tfw no middle mouse button to select multiple lines

[grave wren]

is there a rate limit on https://www.pathofexile.com/character-window/get-characters?

I'd guess no but just making sure

[gritty olive]

Yes

[grave wren]

tell me more please

[gritty olive]

Check the headers of the request

[grave wren]

am i blind?

Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:58:07 GMT
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Pragma: no-cache
Server: nginx/1.12.2
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN

[gritty olive]

Oh guess not

[delicate kernel]

Hey I was wondering what library was used to do the Tutorial for poe.trade, would love to learn how to do something like that.

[grave wren]

@chrome topaz

[jade adder]

https://foundation.zurb.com/sites/docs/v/5.5.3/components/joyride.html if i had to guess?

but xyz will know better obv

[chrome topaz]

yeah it's joyride, older foundation though

[delicate kernel]

thanks so much

[summer stump]

hey @chrome topaz is there an API reason poe.trade can't tell prefixes from suffixes? official site seems to know what affixes there are, but last I heard they weren't sending that info to you via API

just wondering if that's still the case

[jade adder]

not meaning to steal the thunder i just remember this came up a couple days ago

[grave wren]

FLASHBANG

[simple ravine]

@summer stump "Unethical advantage" 😉

[summer stump]

wow weak

I was hoping it was just a feature mid-development that wasn't out yet

I hate having to go to the official site to see affixes

[gritty olive]

I updated my CSS to always show them

I don't think they will put it in the river ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[summer stump]

so everyone is doomed to have affixless item parsing

time for some ethical buttons that cross-reference an item with pathofexile.com/trade to determine the affixes

too bad you can't filter by them still

[gritty olive]

Hell even a mapping would help

I'd also like an endpoint to check rate-limits without affecting rate limits

[summer stump]

do certain people get a free pass on rate limits? like XYZ etc.

[compact isle]

should be easy to make HEAD requests return that information correctly without incrementing the rate limit, is that just for the character window API?

[grave wren]

Honestly it'd be great for any routes to not fall into it

[compact isle]

that's quite a bit more work unfortunately, might be better to do when we do our big Zend refactor

[grave wren]

Ah - then an info about the char window would be fine for me too - currently it doesnt seem like it has a rate limit but that seems unlikely

[compact isle]

the character list endpoint does have a rate-limit but it's not hooked up to report it at the moment, so I'll fix that too

[grave wren]

thanks ❤

[slow forge]

@timid hemlock Don't know how often this is requested, but I for one would love to get a slider for Shock's damage increase as currently it's static 50% iirc

[gritty olive]

Heh, I thought I remember being rate limited good to know I wasn't imagining things

[mortal bone]

Pretty sure it is 45 requests the timed out for 60s

[elder hearth]

@velvet fog hi, are you aware of Life Flasks(INF%) here? http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=MapFragment

[velvet fog]

fixed, thanks

[stable crystal]

Hey guys I've been wondering how Procurement and http://currency.poe.trade/shop actually upload currency exchanges. It does't seem to be possible to do via the forums from what I've gathered?

Like when I fill out the form at http://currency.poe.trade/shop, what exactly does it do with that information?

[deft jolt]

That's just local to poe.trade

[odd fog]

what does being local to poe.trade mean?

i was wondering the same thing too. is there a way to skip the form for more efficiency?

[stable crystal]

Yeah skipping the form and just dumping text would be pretty ideal if somehow possible

[deft jolt]

It's probably a simple post request

And by local I mean you send data (i.e your currency ratios) to poe.trade and poe.trade displays that data

[stable crystal]

Omg it never occurred to me that POE trade could list trades without ever interacting with POE itself in the way that stash tabs would...

Well I guess there isn't any way to just dump text somewhere so as to upload trades to the POE API then. (apologies if I used API in the incorrect context)

Well thanks heaps Siegrest

Really appreciate that

[deft jolt]

No worries

[vocal comet]

@chrome topaz where would i go for featureRequests / QoL stuff for poe.trade ?

[stable crystal]

For real I'd pay @chrome topaz like $50 to implement a way to submit currency exchange via text instead of via form

[grave wren]

💸

[hazy fog]

$50 is like 2 hours of work

[subtle vapor]

@odd fog @stable crystal this is what a request looks like without the form.

[chrome topaz]

@vocal comet https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/109153

@stable crystal feel free to post to the forum thread as well

[eager rivet]

Is there a library/command line version of path of building? Something I could use to calculate DPS as if your character was wearing the item listed there

[grave wren]

there's a headless version in the dev branch

https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/blob/dev/HeadlessWrapper.lua

[eager rivet]

oh thank you.

[stable crystal]

"$50 is like 2 hours of work" Hahaha well yeah true but $50 is $50 😛

@subtle vapor Hey thanks for the response, I'm sorry to be a n00b but where exactly is that uh section? Can navigate the HTML just fine but I don't know shit about anything else possible when it comes to this stuff

[chrome snow]

@stable crystal visit currency.poe.trade, click on the button along the top to go your shop. When you follow the instructions to get your api key, it will let you enter in a currency ratio to add to the currency trade site's list. After you add a trade, try opening the dev console in chrome and looking in the network tab. If you have all requests showing you should see requests for shop?league=<whatever league you are posting in>. On the right side of the network page you can select header, and check the request headers to see exactly what is being posted in the site. AND THUS FINALLY, allowing you to recreate the post in postman/curl/requests/homing pigeons/your favorite way to post requests

not sure what you meant by "this stuff", but hopefully that pushes you in the right direction

[stable crystal]

@chrome snow Hey thankyou soooo much for that! Hopefully with this new information I can see if I can get one of these post request extension things working with Java (This is my first endeavor into web related programming so my apologies if I explain things poorly)

[chrome snow]

I wouldnt start with java, but thats just like my opinion man

[stable crystal]

@chrome topaz Thanks for that and I will be sure to try and contribute to the forums once I've figured this tsuff out more

@chrome snow Isuppose Java may not be the best approach but I'm already neck deep in it so may as well push through

So it looks like these requests are in the form of
league: Hardcore+Incursion
apikey: lalala

(sell_currency:
sell_value:
buy_value:
buy_currency:) * however many exchanges i wanna ad

[chrome snow]

well I mean mostly for beginners, you could rig up a shitty way to post requests via node/express or python/flask in like an hr

probably add like 20 more hrs with no working knowledge

then youll break your environment, so itll add more time

and in a few years, youll just be getting paid to do the same thing

one of us one of us one of us one of us

[stable crystal]

Hahaha that's the dream XD

Hey I have a semi philosophical question for you

Would it be a good idea to make a program available that could generate profitable currency exchanges and then upload them automatically

This whole debate about the POE economy is pretty interesting

The pros and cons of the auction house

and how to get around the lack of auction house

[chrome snow]

i mean you could just do that with a for loop in the dev console on poe ninja

....

its not rocket science comparing ratios

[stable crystal]

Sure

But making it available to everybody

[chrome snow]

if thats the end goal, making an excel spreadsheet is probably faster

price isnt that volatile

also the ratios dont incorporate trade volume

[stable crystal]

Well you'd set a minimum profit (in chaos) per trade that would adjust volume accordingly right

[chrome snow]

i mean you could do that, but the only big volumes you get are in trades with chaos or ex, so the most complicated trading/flipping you can do with somewhat reliable trades are 3 way trades involving chaos + something + ex

while the ratio of harbinger orbs to blessed orbs might be a super great deal, only like 1 person will ever look it up, and its because they were drunk and fell asleep on their keyboard

[stable crystal]

You'd be surprised how many people do trades like blessed for divine or whatever. I thinks that's where the money is at (as far as currency flipping goes anyway) Admittedly Harbinger for blessed may actually be that one drunk dude lol

[chrome snow]

tbh making a gui tool to post currency trades to currency.poe.trade extended through mercury trade or something would be neat

[stable crystal]

And yeah I reckon right

Actually one other thing I'd wanna do

Is a small macro that will show what you have on offer when somebody messages you

The amount of times I've got "Hi i'd like to buy your X alch for my Y chaos" where they've adjusted the exchange in their favor is absurd

Im kinda surprised poe companion or mercury dont already have that

[chrome snow]

they just parse the message box tho so I dont know how theyd get that

[stable crystal]

Can cross reference with poe currency right

Like how poe trade macro checks poe trade

[chrome snow]

could be cool, feature creep tho gets fun. Mercury trade works pretty well right now and its free, coding stuff that takes more effort gets pricey real fast

[stable crystal]

Mmmm that is true but luckily seems like we have a lot of people happy to contribute for free. God bless PoE developers lol

So you prefer Mercury over Poe Companion?

[chrome snow]

havent tried companion, mercury has always pretty much worked for me

[stable crystal]

Whilst I haven't tried Mercury, from what I've seen its a bit more compact but not quite as much customisation available and information displayed (although ofc i could be wrong, only seen vids of it)

[stable crystal]

http://currency.poe.trade/shop#

"<a class="button right" href="#" onclick="auth_user();return false;">Login</a>"

If JS is disabled then it should be impossible to log in right?

[velvet fog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8xe4gs/can_we_keep_the_same_order_of_mods_please/e23y3og/?st=jjf9k5pc&sh=4e78ab14

You can take everyone out of the cars and order all the people by height (stat descriptions)

Mods display order by stat descriptions?

[chrome topaz]

it really cannot be that hard

[velvet fog]

official trade can keep mod name and range, I think it should be possible

[velvet fog]

@obtuse citrus how a gem select which stat_descriptions.txt to display?

[fickle yew]

@velvet fog That was recently added in RePoE when I asked for it.. You can probably find it from the commit linked in this issue: https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE/issues/5

[harsh phoenix]

hey all you devs in here, would it be worth trying to make a twitch bot, that would reference the wiki and allow for searches within twitch

something like [Windripper] would return a search from the wiki

[jade adder]

Sure it might be worth it for some people who would want to use it, but it would have to be some really well behaved twitch community cause most of them would just be like “LOL SOMEONE [[Dominating Blow]] ME”

Basically you would need a good anti-abuse feature but I could see some smaller streamers maybe using it

[harsh phoenix]

true

[obtuse citrus]

@velvet fog Metadata/StatDescriptions/skillpopuup_stat_filters.txt has a mapping for active skill id -> stat file

[velvet fog]

@obtuse citrus thanks I never looked into this file

[pseudo ocean]

can anyone help me with TradeMacro?

I'm having it loading for ever

[odd fog]

Out of curiousity, does anybody know whether poe.trade uses PHP to generate the HTML for the exchanges?

[hazy fog]

@chrome topaz knows 🤔

[chrome topaz]

no PHP

[grave wren]

not even a little?

[summer stump]

lol

[chrome topaz]

no man I quit php

[grave wren]

:<

wasted opportunity couldve blamed it all on php

next chance - java?

; D

[hazy fog]

@odd fog dunno if you're following along but he replied

[summer stump]

what is the primary tech stack?

it's not actually java right

some JS variant?

[grave wren]

my guess was also py

whats yours poeapp

explains it all

you should try prolog

[summer stump]

dang yall got these wacky languages

[chrome topaz]

python, C, C++

[gritty olive]

fortran

[summer stump]

assembly

[mortal bone]

haskell

[chrome topaz]

I actually did try to use some amd64 assembly

[summer stump]

when you really need that performance bump?

[mortal bone]

got to get that efficiency down man

parse that river

[summer stump]

oh yeah i guess that's the bulk of the work huh

[chrome topaz]

no point speeding up parsing when it's bottlenecked by the api

[summer stump]

the river call is the bottleneck?

oh and you rely on the last call to make the next one, so it has to happen in sequence

[grave wren]

Best Api design

[mortal bone]

also it takes forever sometimes to get data

not sure if they fixed that

[odd fog]

Guys I'm looking to design a tool that will act as Trade Verification. What I mean by this is whenever somebody offers me for an item, the tool would check my listing on the specific item page and see if the offered trade matches the listing price. Same would hold true with currency. I would want the tool to find the currency pair and notify me whether or not the ratio offered is equal to or greater than what i listed at. This would bring an end to people modifying your trade link and skewing the numbers to make it more profitable from them. Any ideas where I would get started on this? Would be stoked if somebody could offer a little more direction. 😃

[grave wren]

Just check the price before taking it out? I don't see the use case honestly

[worthy cape]

Saves you from invite, portalling up, and rifling through your stash to find that they're a wanker?

[odd fog]

Exactly! @worthy cape understands the pains.

[obsidian lark]

@odd fog The problem would be going from the character name that's displayed in the client.txt log to the account name needed for searching for your trade on the trade sites. I don't know how to go from character name to account name in any other way then parsing the trade river, so that's what we do in ExileParty for our inspect players functionality.

[worthy cape]

Simplest solution would be to let the user input their own account name into the tool, but otherwise yes, the lookup is icky.

[grave wren]

It's also volatile with the currencies

[odd fog]

So hypothetically it should be possible to do right? If I specified my account name, a tool could:

1. view the trade request in logs
2. check the currency pair in question from the text and fetch my trade ratio from account name
3. compare the two to see if there is a mismatch

[velvet fog]

Using official trade API, I think it works

[velvet fog]

or get private stash with session works too

[worthy cape]

For all you fine people running node-based backends - https://github.com/eslint/eslint-scope/issues/39

(apparently eslint-scope had a malicious package pushed that stole NPM credentials)

[grave wren]

npm

[pseudo ocean]

once you pick up a item and go to identify it - are the rolls that you get server sided? like basically you send a request to the server asking for x-new-generated-rolls on a item ?

[jade adder]

afaik this happens when it drops not when its identified

hence why you can ID legacy items still

someone can feel free to correct me

[pseudo ocean]

so the rolls are already loaded in memory locally?

[jade adder]

oh i see what you mean

[pseudo ocean]

that is strange

[jade adder]

no i misunderstood what you were asking

[pseudo ocean]

oh haha

so the rolls you get are server sided?

[jade adder]

i thought you were asking if generating the rolls happens when you identify

[pseudo ocean]

yeah that as well + but good to know that the rolls for the item already exist before you identify them

are those rolls for the item stored on the server for when the player then goes to identify it - the server send the rolls to prevent people from just pulling the data from memory and continuing on with life and maps?

[jade adder]

i couldn't imagine they would be saved client side so i would say definitely yes, but someone can feel free to correct me

[pseudo ocean]

same here I would imagine the rolls are server sided

i was just curious was all haha

but what if they responded with a packet that held roll information (probably obfuscated most mmorpgs these days are doing security via obfuscation haha) one could then intercept that packet and modify the data after reversing out the obfuscation process and that can be done using a dynamic debugger like windbg or something and ida to then change that data before it ever hits the clients game - however in the same breath they could have checks in place to prevent that as well meh just general game security design rambles right now lolol

[simple ravine]

@pseudo ocean assymetric encrypted communication, considering you're asking about this tells me you're not gonna be able to crack it (no offense). And just don't... It's against the ToS AFAIK

[pseudo ocean]

no offense taken I havnt messed with it all or even checked any of it out 😉

most vendors slap those ToS do not reverse or modify in any way agreements.

I wish more places were open to vulnerability disclosure. However that day may never come

also when attacking encryption most of the time you dont attack the protocol you attack the implementation of it as that is where most people mess it all up and it gets ugly haha

[fleet frigate]

hey, i dont know if thats the place, but my poe is always crashing, and it takes about 62% of my CPU and 100% of my GPU and 1,300m of my memory

[simple ravine]

@fleet frigate This channel is for 3rd party development stuff mainly.

That being said, it's because you have v-sync turned off.

[fleet frigate]

i've turned it off because it said to boost performence

[grave wren]

It will then render as many frames as it can and in turn use more resources

Get a frame limiter going or re enable vsync

[obsidian lark]

Hey guys, just wanted to put this out here, i ranted to GGG about having to scrape the trade river in for account names for characters and they seems to think it was dumb aswell and gave me this, all props to GGG:
https://www.pathofexile.com/character-window/get-account-name-by-character?character=QuillHitman

@velvet fog maybe you could add it to your documentation aswell 😃

[velvet fog]

done, https://app.swaggerhub.com/apis/Chuanhsing/poe/1.0.0#/default/get_character_window_get_account_name_by_character

[velvet fog]

return error 1 when user close his characters list info

[terse kelp]

Hey, guys. I hope this is the right place for this; I'm using the TradeMacro and Lutbot. In both cases, the GUI menu gets cut off at the bottom and I don't see the last few options. The windows are not resizable. I have the latest version of AHK and both macros. I have integrated graphics on my laptop (Intel HD 620) and I've tried both the latest drivers and the drivers that the laptop shipped with. My default resolution is 1280x720. Any suggestions?

[gritty olive]

@obsidian lark it only works if their characters are public which is still petty cool

[obsidian lark]

Yup. but what would you do with the accountName of a private profile anyway?

[grave wren]

block 'em

:p

[eager rivet]

Do I need to install any package to use Path of Building Headless wrapper ?

I get the error Launch.lua:39: attempt to index local 'xml' (a boolean value) when I run headlesswrapper.lua

[eager rivet]

I see PoB is using a function called LoadXMLFile but I can't find a single library that has that function and that is causing problems :/

[chrome topaz]

it comes from xml.lua

it's in pob zip, or you can get it from my github (might be outdated) https://github.com/xyzz/pob-web/tree/master/deps/pob-lua

[eager rivet]

Oh thank you very much

[simple ravine]

Anyone know if there's a way to fix (pin) the cast rate to 4.0 in PoB somehow?

[summer stump]

you mean to check dps without having to juggle cast rate mods?

[simple ravine]

yeah

and also to more conveniently use the "power" mode in the tree (nice-to-have)

and skill gem sorting etc

[cosmic saffron]

put on cast while channeling to pin rate, then multiply

[simple ravine]

hmmm

thanks, that's pretty close to what I was looking for, @cosmic saffron

[pseudo ocean]

has anyone played around with dynamario and drcov ?

for code coverage analysis with ida?

[wheat pewter]

would anyone happen to know the tickrate of flamethrower trap if placed directly in the middle of an enemy

[odd fog]

Hi again, is there a way to filter currency offers by username? For example, http://currency.poe.trade/search?league=Incursion&online=x&want=3&have=2 selling Fusings for Alchs, could I further narrow the search including a username in the link? Such as http://currency.poe.trade/search?league=Incursion&online=x&want=3&have=2&username=(username) This is so that I can pull listed trade offer quicker rather than scanning the entire HTML for the username. Better still, is there a way to see an accounts entire list of currency trades in one place? (Not from Stash area though since there is a huge delay to open that page for me due to high amount of offers). Similar to how you can search for username in the item section of the site. Thank you!

[hasty creek]

Might not be possible through currency.poe.trade. But regular poe.trade allows you to filter by username @odd fog

[odd fog]

Thankyou for the reply @hasty creek and yah I'm aware of that. Was hoping there was something similar for currency too for this app I'm making to validate currency trades offers with your online listing.

[hasty creek]

The currency trades are accessible through poe.trade too (not presented in the same manner but)

So that should work fine, or am I missing something @odd fog

[velvet fog]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2186297

[gritty olive]

@odd fog no way to validate things that happen in the river happened

this is one of those situations where "y not use blockchain"

[chrome topaz]

GGG really wants people to use their site huh

[velvet fog]

the gap between inner stash api and public stash api

[velvet fog]

GGG should make an in-game browser with trading feature, this could kill all 3rd party apps

[old heath]

That would be nice

I could make PoE my job then

buy high, sell higher

Good idea

[gritty olive]

"don't worry we aren't trying to kill 3rd party trade sites" 😛

[simple ravine]

I'm glad I was unhappy with what I saw, and stopped pursuing a classical indexer

Suppose I come up with a great idea surrounding GGG's PoE and trading, and I would patent the idea....

[grave wren]

Chance orb for your thoughts etc

[simple ravine]

Well, if I came up with something that would be 'amazing' in a user context... I develop it, launch it, and it gets some users. Then GGG says, "Hey that's a good idea, let's put that in ours and push it"

That's a bit meh

[grave wren]

Agreed but normal players would not see it our way

Some even wonder why poe.trade still exists.

Apparently they don't see the work put into deving

[finite grove]

hey there, I've been tweaking in path of building in my own branch for a while now, but debugging is kind of a pain, is there any way to have some text output of some kind ?

[old heath]

You mean like a print function? 😛

I'll test something to see if I can get some output

[old heath]

I must be stupid, because I don't see where it closes the output 🤔

[finite grove]

I ended up redirecting print to a log file, and monitoring that in real time...

[old heath]

You could redirect to a console

Stolen from SOlua local out = io.popen('find /v "" > con', "w") function print(s) out:write(s.."\r\n") --\r because windows out:flush() end

@finite grove

[finite grove]

oh that works too

[summer stump]

how did you type that with syntax highlighting

o

[pseudo ocean]

discord markdown

[deft jolt]

```lua
text to be highlighted
`` `

without that one space

[pseudo ocean]

or in line with one backtick

pretty sure you could just escape them
```
....
```

[summer stump]

i'm learning a lot about discord

and now none of it will apply to slack

groan

but not language highlighto

[pseudo ocean]

the syntax is basically the same

[deft jolt]

try putting it in the code block

[summer stump]

and slack is where i do most of my coding

talk

makes it show up like that?

hrm

[velvet fog]

@timid hemlock https://gitee.com/poecn/PathOfBuildingCN17173 POB CN version

develop page http://bbs.17173.com/thread-10923378-1-1.html

[old heath]

@polar island That's so nice. I wish discord would do that, or at least would support spoiler tags 😦

Like how the blocked messages work

[grave wren]

We can't even link to old posts here

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8zq0r8/psa_weapons_with_the_increased_accuracy_implicits/

[deft jolt]

https://app.swaggerhub.com/apis/Chuanhsing/poe/1.0.0#/default/get_api_ggg_inner_stash_tabs 🤔

[pseudo ocean]

is there a json file containing data about all maps?

[velvet fog]

what data you need?

[pseudo ocean]

underline italics

[old heath]

Underlined, strikethrough, bold, italicized code block

[deft jolt]

@grave wren https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/175290321695932416/468992099178643456
i'm pretty sure you can

[grave wren]

Where's the gui for it and why is there no preview

[deft jolt]

copy link near the add reaction button

[grave wren]

Not on mobile at least. Do you use an add-on for discord?

Might also do it

[deft jolt]

pure vanilla

[grave wren]

Hmm

[old heath]

You're not in developer mode @grave wren

[grave wren]

but thats just for deving and not an official feature then :<

y u lying siegrest

[old heath]

I always forget dev mode exists

because I've had it on since I installed discord over 2 years ago lol

[deft jolt]

you might as well turn it on then for the extra features 😄

[grave wren]

they could also finally support it officially

like slack does

[pseudo ocean]

@velvet fog all map names and their tiers

[grave wren]

https://github.com/FWidm/cytoscape-poe-map-visualization/blob/master/json-prototypes/maps_3_1.json is what I have in store you'd have to check if maps changes changed since 3.1

[pseudo ocean]

ty I'll look into that

[old heath]

Does anyone have the IP for the NA game servers, not the login servers?

[velvet fog]

@timid hemlock another POB translation project https://gitee.com/jiaqq02/POB2CN

[gritty olive]

@old heath if you use wireshark you can get the api when you start the client on the choose a network screen

[old heath]

Ah okay

Thanks

[vast marlin]

There appears to be a very slight bug with calculating mana cost with the “reduced mana cost” support gem in Path of Building.

If you for example have a level 5 decoy totem (mana cost 14) and a 20/20 reduced mana, it costs 14-(14*0.39)= 8.54

POB rounds this DOWN to 8, however in game it is rounded UP to 9.

Can anyone else confirm this for me?
Is this the correct channel for this?

[versed ginkgo]

No harm in dropping it here, can also drop this info on PoB's issues page
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/issues

@vast marlin

[hasty creek]

I might be out of the loop but is filterblade gone ? https://www.filterblade.xyz/

[deft jolt]

Seemed to be working yesterday

[old heath]

New host, maybe?

[hasty creek]

@hushed relic probably have some insight. Couldn't find any info on your twitter. Care to share some light on this? (https://www.filterblade.xyz/ Site not installed)

[simple ravine]

He's looking into it

[hasty creek]

Alright thanks. No rush, I was just concerned when there wasn't any news/posts regarding the downtime.

[hushed relic]

Seems something is up with OVH

not quite sure

[hushed relic]

Not sure what's up

[hasty creek]

The provider is stonewalling or not aware of any issue? Usually it's DNS or firewall ^^,

[hushed relic]

OK a servercluster is dead

the host is on it

it's surprisingly hard to get any proper status infos/updates from OVH

half of their links are dead and the other half is french

The URL to the incident page was a 404

[hasty creek]

You get what you pay for or is there another reason you went with them?

Perhaps they host their own support on the servercluster

[hushed relic]

well, I'm mostly very happy with them

we had very few incidents

this one is by far the longest

[hasty creek]

"Thankfully" it's middle of the league

[hushed relic]

Yeah...

[vapid crane]

FilterBlade is back online

[grave wren]

Middle

[hard bone]

PoB is dead?

i mean ele hit for example still not updated as aoe, 2 months no updates

[hasty creek]

He/she is probably enjoying a nice holiday

You could aoe tag yourself in the
PathOfBuilding\Data\3_0\Skills\act_dex.lua

as such

Keep in mind, I do not know if this will give the correct values in PoB. I'm just letting you know how you would add a tag

[hard bone]

thx ill try

but i doubt that only this tag will give correct damage, changelog is not ends on aoe tag - "Now deals 10% more damage per elemental ailment on enemies." etc

[gusty pivot]

Does anyone have some assets zipped (item icons), I remember seeing it somewhere, but can't seem to find it | Edit: nvm found it from stickies

[hasty creek]

We can probably assume all lines is working part from those indented with --

[gritty olive]

@compact isle it would be cool if there was a query param to disable modifying of the passive skill tree

[gritty olive]

Is there a mapping for base types and cdn images?

[velvet fog]

it's easy to export one without flask

[gritty olive]

🤔 hoping i wouldn't have to export one

[velvet fog]

http://poedb.tw/us/api.php/BaseItemTypes

[gritty olive]

oh man that's amazing 😄

ty @velvet fog

[velvet fog]

Map should use ?mr=1&mn=1&mt={Tier}

[chrome topaz]

wanted to try the new get-account-name-by-character API and it seems it's broken already https://www.pathofexile.com/character-window/get-account-name-by-character?character=xyz sigh

[old heath]

Yup, definitely broken

[winter fossil]

Is there any reason why they don't have official API endpoints for profile / character data?

[hushed relic]

Well, the transition from an indy company to a large game company happened rather slowly 😛

well SLOWLY in terms of infrastructure etc

they grew rather fast, rapidly even

so they're still catching up on a lot of things

[simple ravine]

To be fair, they've been pretty big for 2 years at least, though

[gritty olive]

@velvet fog did you generate that API? if so I'd love to know how, I don't want to be constantly hitting yours for now I'll probably cache per league

[velvet fog]

You can use it unless I broken it, or if you need more information from api. http://poedb.tw/us/api.php

[velvet fog]

SuperShaperInfluence.dat added to China beta server

[simple ravine]

intriguing

[grave wren]

@gritty olive let me know when you finished item parsing and i'll update s1n accordingly

[hard bone]

How do you think anti-afk script is bannable?

I want to write it (for myself) only because im not afk. I hear everything mercurytrade, but sometimes forget to alt tab every 10min so can lose potential trades because of poe.trade afk tag

[chrome topaz]

i'm gonna save you some time here, the support's gonna tell you it's not allowed

[hasty creek]

This should be allowed
You could make script that throws you a pushbullet/text/sms/notification every 10 min, if poe windows hasn't been active

However it might cause false-positives depending how you "check"

Or an eggtimer

[deft jolt]

i have a feeling they wouldn't allow an egg timer since it provides an unfair advantage over players who don't own one

[grave wren]

Absolutely disgusting

Someone get him

[hasty creek]

he better not combine that bird with a popsicle stick

[gritty olive]

@grave wren s1n?

[grave wren]

pob parsing bot here

[gritty olive]

ohhh I have an API

pm me if you want access

[grave wren]

nice - probably later on. Wanted to get headless pob going but no time atm

so you might just do what i wanted to do but better 😄

[gritty olive]

haha at some point I will need some external help most likely for item parsing, since i've never dealt with it and I'm sure there are people who have who can do that a million times faster than me xD

Ideally I'd like to make it an API so I never have to deal with it ever again

[grave wren]

[gritty olive]

https://poe.technology/poebuddy/tsqrn16J#items-view

[grave wren]

not great at pricing but i guess someone is

[gritty olive]

Right now I have minimal stuff (and stuff that isn't shown there)

[grave wren]

nice

[gritty olive]

I wonder if I can bake jewels into the tree and use a different tool to show the jewels in the map

[grave wren]

missing the possibility to query amount of totems/minions, keystones and some other specific stuff which might work with your api then

[gritty olive]

maybe use https://poeplanner.com/

[grave wren]

hm why not just show jewels in the items tab

or do you mean in addition

if you find a site that allows you to enumerate jewels it'd be good enough imo

[gritty olive]

I can list the jewels out I have that info

Just would have liked to make a read-only tree with the jewels embedded

[grave wren]

yeah but you're missing the option to map them to the tree positions, right?

[gritty olive]

yep

who runs poeplanner?

[grave wren]

not sure if they're here

[winter fossil]

https://poe.technology/ What is this piano stuff? 😄

[gritty olive]

arpeggiator

needed something to act as a landing page while I work on tools

Huh poeplanner is written with laravel

[summer stump]

finally the solution to all my arpeggio needs

[winter fossil]

yikes

[gritty olive]

ehehehheh I found an api with all the item stats

[grave wren]

Sneaky

[gritty olive]

this is exactly what I needed

Now I can build those sick tooltips you see on the site

[winter fossil]

Using PoB stuff behind the scenes for dmg calc?

[gritty olive]

Yeah I had to create a mapping system for that, honestly that was the easiest (heh) part

Item parsing is the hardest part, and honestly if GGG provided like a very basic api it wouldn't be

[pseudo ocean]

just add an option to ctrl+c a json 😦

ggg pls

[gritty olive]

well, parsing that item text is easy

it's the correlation

[pseudo ocean]

what are you working at btw?

[gritty olive]

what are the mods, and what are the ranges (etc)

[pseudo ocean]

oh

pob?

[gritty olive]

https://poe.technology/poebuddy/tsqrn16J#tree-view

[pseudo ocean]

yummy