Heh, took wget almost two hours to fetch all the contents of my GGPK via my tool to disk the other day.
#tooldev-general
worthy cape
Not surprising, as there's like 400k files in there.
@pseudo ocean What's wrong with Visual GGPK 2, btw?
Apart from the Broetli compression of DDS:es, my old C++ code based on ggpk_defragment.rb seems to have worked just fine with the current archive.
pseudo ocean
Visual ggpk pulls up an error about a mismatch in the threes or some nonsense
Only leaving part of the ggpk accessible it seems
I'm trying to get out various textures from around oriath for use in a personal place on a different platform
Like some of those large murals of innocence people typically just glance over
worthy cape
Like "Art\Textures\Environment\Act5\Innocence\StaindGlass_01_colour.dds"?
Nice huge texture, heh.
pseudo ocean
Those are nice yeah but I was talking about the act 5 textures on the ground and such
I can't get them extracted because I'm too damn derp with python
worthy cape
pseudo ocean
Was also needing their specular/materials textures if possible, it's for a fan art creation
worthy cape
normal+specular texture is in there too.
@pseudo ocean No warranty given, but try https://www.acc.umu.se/~zao/ggpkserve-1.1.zip - drag Content.GGPK onto the executable to serve the contents on http://localhost:8080/tree/
Should work "fine" for grabbing individual files.
No idea about how robust it is for all files, but it handles DDS, mat, ogg and txt right at least.
pseudo ocean
" To serve the contents on " Wuh ?
worthy cape
It has a built-in web server to see the contents of the GGPK file.
I couldn't be arsed making an actual UI.
So you get something like this:
pseudo ocean
So I won't have to use some python third-party utility to decompress the dds?
worthy cape
Interesting... those two files don't decompress properly anymore.
I wonder if they changed the internal format again.
My code integrated the decompression of the previous DDS wrapper.
Seems like it doesn't quite work anymore. Bah.
Ooh, nice. They've implemented symbolic links.
Sorry for the wasted effort, seems like I need to fix my tools up.
pseudo ocean
yeahhh
One of those feelings of " I know I'm not doing this shit wrong " kinda scenarios
pseudo ocean
latest outage broke pathofexile.com/trade (seeing offlines while I have online only enabled)
compact isle
pseudo ocean
👍🏾
wind garden
aww, ggg didn't like my idea of a remote client to relay poe.trade whispers
you have to be physically at the computer you're sending commands to the server from
grave wren
i am sure they will check for any temviewer shenanigans
wind garden
nah
I asked a few days ago if it would be allowed to make a client on a remote machine that would copy a whisper message and relay it to a remote machine to be sent through the client
i guess they don't want people buying items while at work
cosmic saffron
you could set up a site for people to buy through other online players I guess
wind garden
too much work
and hard to verify people's credibility
if your goal is to get good deals on items, people could just buy the item and keep it
Sweet koam's heart for 3ex, i'll have this other guy buy it for me since I'm at work....awww he won't trade it to me now, he wants 5ex instead of 3
cosmic saffron
yeah it's something a lot more feasible for people that know eachother than random strangers
wind garden
ya
cosmic saffron
it still doesn't solve the problem of afk/price-fixing/relisting sellers though
wind garden
you know
i don't have to do anything with poe really
i just have to have a client that sends a string to my remote machine, sends F2_Down, then copies the string to clipboard
then MercuryTrade, which is allowed, will send it for me
.....
that's bs
worthy cape
@wind garden PoE runs quite well over the RDP remote desktop, 15-20 fps on a good pipe.
Enough to buy stuff 😃
Not as elegant, but works in a pinch.
wind garden
ya I've used it plenty. But it's still not very fast. At work it sometimes takes me up to a minute to connect for whatever reason (blame the wifi).
I want to be able to message the person and then connect to complete the trade
chrome topaz
i👏l👏l👏e👏g👏a👏l
grave wren
not ssfbtw
short hound
just a quick noobie question, with the public stash tab api how can i check if the user is online?
chrome topaz
you can't check that with the stash api, you can assume if somebody listed items recently they are online; additionally there's two separate private online APIs
short hound
can you give me the 2 end points I'm just poking around for fun
short hound
Ok ty for the info!
simple ravine
why are there two?
golden thunder
Yeah me too Im curious about that, it would be pretty useful to have a reliable way of knowing if a set of accounts are online or not.
lost wigeon
@polar island Looks like it's 15 000 in the docs
pseudo ocean
Has anyone been working on an updated ggpk extractor? There's certain .ogg's I'm looking for from it
obtuse citrus
what do you mean updated? as far as I can tell nothing is wrong with pypoe extraction
pseudo ocean
How do you get pypoe started? I can't seem to get python commands to work with it
obtuse citrus
for the ui, pypoe_ui in CLI, if that doesnt work, run python PyPoE/ui/__init__.py
if you want to use the api directly you have to use python (this is mainly what pypoe is for)
pseudo ocean
I had to edit shortcuts with commands to get pypoe installed, after that i'm totally lost because just opening init.py just opens and immediately closes a window
thought I used to have a python context right click but it's missing atm
obtuse citrus
Well, technically python should be in your PATH on windows, on linux the executable is added automatically (though aliased sometimes, if you use multiple python versions)
but as long you use the python.exe of 3.4.x it should work
assuming you installed it correctly
pseudo ocean
I've got python 3.4.0 shell installed
so I open shell what should I be entering to get that init thing going
Getting dos games back in the day working is about the extent of my savvy of tweaking with these sort of command prompts
obtuse citrus
do you know where you installed python?
pseudo ocean
" C:\Python34\ "
grave wren
For me it was. C:\Python34\python.exe *complete path to pypoe*\PyPoE\PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer\__init__.py
pseudo ocean
^ yeah I would had never figured that out, lol
grave wren
normally(!) you should be able to just use python ...
but you need to invoke the specific version
obtuse citrus
only if you installed it correctly to path^
grave wren
yep and only if its the only python distro you use
pseudo ocean
I was missing info on how to execute things in command
obtuse citrus
I'll need to probably make an installer for windows at some point for the people who just want to extract files
grave wren
it'd be neat yep, isn't there an easy way to add the required python version to your project that can then be used directly?
pseudo ocean
I had to do some real digging in archives to find this version of python
Need to put up a more pleb-friendly version of instructions on the wiki or something
obtuse citrus
The main reason for using an old versions is that if I want to use pyside 2 which works on newer versions
you'd need to compile it yourself
which is even less "pleb friendly"
grave wren
can confirm, self compiling is not too nice
pseudo ocean
you soo much as get halfway through saying the word " compile " around normies and they'll nope.jpg out
obtuse citrus
The non-ui parts work with any python version above 3.4 anyway
grave wren
oh. well that'd have saved me some troubles getting 3.4 as well 😄
pseudo ocean
C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Users\Balgias\Downloads\PyPoE-dev\PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer_init_.py
Is feeding me a syntax error on the : part of the command
aaaa
scripting is the devil
obtuse citrus
use quotation marks ( " ) around it it
also, missing a backslash ( \ ) before the __init__.py but not sure if discord just ate it
pseudo ocean
discord ate
pseudo ocean
' test '
'test'
test
there we go
"C:\Python34\python.exe" "C:\Users\Balgias\Downloads\PyPoE-dev\PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer\__init__.py" SyntaxError: (unicode error) 'unicodeescape' codec can't decode bytes in position 2-3: truncated \UXXXXXXXX escap
obtuse citrus
can you replace the backward with forward slashes?
it seems like it's treating it as unicode escapes for some reason
wind garden
so I got a response back from GGG support saying if I send a string from a client to a remote computer and copy it to clipboard to let mercury trade paste it as a message, action would be taken against my account
wat?
grave wren
Fells like they didnt understand what you want to do
wind garden
but that's not even touching poe
chrome topaz
well at least it's not "if you send us one more stupid motherfucking ticket action would be taken against your account"
pseudo ocean
I remember the whole popsicle-stick-ban thing for people being because it's a " macro "
pseudo ocean
Not allowed to use all 5 potions at once ban
chrome topaz
you just told them thats how
pseudo ocean
@obtuse citrus I have no idea what that means, rofl
I just need help getting a command to work ONCE with this fucking time vampire and I can figure my way out from there
obtuse citrus
use C:/Users/Balgias/Downloads/PyPoE-dev/PyPoE/ui/ggpk_viewer/__init__.py
wind garden
I really think GGG regrets allowing MercuryTrade and now it's too late becuse so many people use it
pseudo ocean
lovely
wind garden
@pseudo ocean https://github.com/Exslims/MercuryTrade
obtuse citrus
type "cmd" in windows search, it opens up the windows shell
pseudo ocean
I can get a cmd prompt open sec
Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Users\Balgias\Downloads\PyPoE-dev\PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer\__init__.py", line 37, in <module> from PyPoE.ui.ggpk_viewer.core import GGPKViewerMainWindow ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'PyPoE'
so appearently i need to reinstall pypoe because I didn't do it right the first time
obtuse citrus
I feel like you didn't follow the installation steps at all :/
pseudo ocean
Well I know what to do now thanks to your pointers
I wasn't able to get any of the commands working before in windows cmd or python until now
obtuse citrus
You need to install pypoe properly via pip, then that error should go away. You should really consider adding python and scripts to your path to avoid headaches with the paths
it makes the .exe useable from any place
pseudo ocean
Installing pypoe_exporter-script.py script to C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts Installing pypoe_exporter.exe script to C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts Installing pypoe_exporter.exe.manifest script to C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts Installing pypoe_ui-script.pyw script to C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts Installing pypoe_ui.exe script to C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts Installing pypoe_ui.exe.manifest script to C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts
ok so it relocated to my anaconda3 setup of python
obtuse citrus
use "C:\Python34\Scripts\pip.exe"
not entirely sure what anaconda3 is, if it's the right python versions it might work but I dont bet on that
grave wren
allows you to neatly setup different py envs
and contains lots of scientific pre-built libs to easily use
mostly convenience stuff that shouldn't interfere
obtuse citrus
Well if it's using 3.4
you can give it a shot by running
C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Script\pypoe_ui.exe
worthy cape
@grave wren Thanks for mentioning Conda... made me throw up a bit there thanks to HPC work.
But that's a rant for another time and place 😃
grave wren
always happy to assist 😛
conda was the only option to get one lib running i needed for my thesis so it's kinda neat for me
worthy cape
Do you fine people know if any other file types than DDS have the indirect reference or Brotli compressed dual nature in the game files?
pseudo ocean
invoking C:\Users\Balgias\Anaconda3\Scripts\pypoe_ui.exe isn't doin nothin
guess I should uninstall anaconda
also isn't doing anything if I just try to open the .exe from windows
Installing pypoe_ui.exe script to C:\Python34\Scripts
obtuse citrus
Try the full path first and see if it gives you any error again
obtuse citrus
dont do it in the python shell
pseudo ocean
I'm still in windows
obtuse citrus
the triple >>> are from the python shell
pseudo ocean
`PS C:\Python34\Scripts> pypoe_ui.exe
pypoe_ui.exe : The term 'pypoe_ui.exe' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable
program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
At line:1 char:1
- pypoe_ui.exe
-
+ CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (pypoe_ui.exe:String) [], CommandNotFoundException + FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException
Suggestion [3,General]: The command pypoe_ui.exe was not found, but does exist in the current location. Windows PowerShell does not load commands from the current location by default. If you trust this command, instead type: ".\pypoe_ui.exe". See "get-help about_Command_Precedence" for more details.`
PS C:\Python34\Scripts> ".\pypoe_ui.exe" .\pypoe_ui.exe
grave wren
PS E:\Git\PyPoE> C:\Python34\python.exe PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer\__init__.py works fine for me, shell was opened in the base pypoe folder
pseudo ocean
PS C:\Python34> C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Users\Balgias\Downloads\PyPoE-dev\PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer\_init_.py C:\Python34\python.exe: can't open file 'C:\Users\Balgias\Downloads\PyPoE-dev\PyPoE\ui\ggpk_viewer\_init_.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
ffs I hate command shit soo badly
I've quadro-checked the destination directory that is 100% accurate
grave wren
it's double underscore in front and behind init
your pasted thing seems like its only one
shell will autocomplete files normally if the path exists
grave wren
did you follow: http://omegak2.net/poe/PyPoE/installation.html ?
pseudo ocean
that page assumes the person knows how to invoke that pip command properly
I hope in the future a standalone .exe will come out for just extracting things from the ggpk like visual ggpk used to (It's out of date )
this py crap is way too frustrating for me
and requires extensive knowledge of how pip and or commands work
grave wren
the commands you need to know are basically listed there
if your python is installed properly you literally just invoke the listed command you need and bam done
pseudo ocean
Gives no context where or how " pip install -e .[full] " is used when having a command window opened for the setup.py directory
grave wren
you're asked to navigate to a specific folder and then execute one of the pip commands below to install the lib
not sure what's missing here to make it easier to understand
pseudo ocean
worthy cape
Syntax may be a bit silly if you're in powershell instead of a proper cmd shell.
And/or there's no Python in yonder path.
pseudo ocean
" And/or there's no Python in yonder path. " My complaint about a lack of context on that page
I don't think windows 10 has the old dos-like cmd shell
grave wren
C:\Python34\Scripts\pip.exe instead of just pip if your path is not set
it has
win key => cmd
worthy cape
They changed all the quick ways to launch a console window to be backed by Powershell a biannual update ago or two, but cmd.exe is still very alive and kicking.
pseudo ocean
I see
worthy cape
And if you're in a bind, you can invoke it inside a PS window.
pseudo ocean
The windows team changing shit that didn't need to be changed
worthy cape
Preaching to the choir, laddy 😃
grave wren
at least we have a semi functional ubuntu bash
pseudo ocean
http://omegak2.net/poe/PyPoE/installation.html page needs to specify that CMD needs to be used to navigate to the setup.py destination or that CMD is used for this process
I dunno how my pip didn't end up on PATH when I setup python to be setup on my windows PATH
which is why C:\Python34\Scripts\pip.exe was needing to be used instead of just pip
grave wren
did you restart power shell after installing python?
pseudo ocean
idk
grave wren
restart it now and try to just call pip
pseudo ocean
nothing
pseudo ocean
Had these errors pop up when installing pypoe using pip full
dunno if they're show-stopping or not
https://puu.sh/zWgFH/525a7dce0a.png I guess not
damn exe works now
pseudo ocean
Now then
after all that nonsense
I've gotten to experiment with using some of the rosette textures from act 5 in my roman-themed house on secondlife
If I can't have an act 5 themed hideout ingame i'll make it elsewhere :V
lol
torpid mesa
Yeah the act 5 holy building tile set is great
wind garden
@fickle yew not sure why but lvl 70 Lurchers with Craicic Presence aren't showing up priced correctly on poe.ninja
simple ravine
You should have custom tiles made for your real life floor 🙂
grave wren
💵
glad parrot
Hello people! I am the tool creator of the quiz game and a builds index: https://www.path-of-exile-builds.com/. Probably someone can take a look on it from the developer perspective and give me some feedback? I'd like to be more connected to the community, I also would give feedback, just ask me! Have a nice day all!
worthy cape
Hi!
cosmic saffron
looks good, maybe colour-code the various tiles for different classes
forum threads have tags which you can extract for the ascendancy info with which you can update the thumbnail for
some issues with counting pob links?
glad parrot
thanks for the feedback, I have seen it already once. Need to optimize the PoB extraction. I use simple regex to do so.
hasty orchid
i feel like T1 mod for life recover rate is not working
warm mulch
why does poe.trade derps out on this mod
pseudo ocean
because guess who is not adding more mods to xyz
reef jacinth
Hey guys, I made this small character progression tool and just launched @ https://www.poe.guide/ It basically lets you pick out uniques and gems you want to use for your character and see when you can start using them. Now I'm wondering what extra info you'd like to see to make it even more useful, and what feedback you might have for it overall. Thanks 😃
bold ferry
@reef jacinth Is it a bug that it only shows uniques up to R or is it intended for now? Couldn't add Thief's Torment, since it's not in the list
reef jacinth
@bold ferry Definitely not intended, i'll check it out! Some items might have wrong info/not exist (apart from that bug), I'm fetching data from the wiki api and I haven't 100% nailed the query I think. EDIT: Most uniques should be there now, around 800. Might be missing 20 or so but not sure which.
deft jolt
Would be interesting if it showed attribute requirements aswell
reef jacinth
For sure! I'll do that next, thanks 😃
worthy cape
There's nothing more fun than to finally make that purchase you wanted and notice that you're 50 dex down.
reef jacinth
I added attribute requirements now @ https://www.poe.guide/ (might have to reload site twice) as the attribute requirements that you need to reach to equip everything in one act. I figured it might get cluttered if I put requirements on all items. Is this a good way to go about it or should I fit in individual requirements also?
grave wren
Hm does anyone have an overview of where which kind of beasts spawn? Currently looking for tauruses but apparently arena is the first map containing them?
bold ferry
@grave wren in case you still need that info: https://poecraft.com/bestiary/checklist
Saw that somewhere the other day and it seems to be exactly what you're looking for
grave wren
Awesome thanks
simple ravine
@gritty olive
lost wigeon
@simple ravine You're rich 😱
reef jacinth
Is there a way to query a wiki module, like this one https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:QuestReward#Data_Keys , via the wiki API? I'm not fully grasping how to navigate the API and figure out what's possible except querying tables for items.
Like can I invoke something like this over HTTP and get the result back as JSON?
{{#invoke: QuestReward|table
| filter_by_class=Scion
| filter_by_quest=Enemy at the Gate
}}
If not, is there somewhere I can find data on which classes can buy which gems from vendor?
simple ravine
@lost wigeon been flipping
and there's some oddities with poe-rates calculations too while we're at it 🙂
I was hoping I didn't have to make my own stash-fetch-index thing
lost wigeon
Really which ones?
simple ravine
I'm mostly trading ex/chaos because it's so volatile
sometimes the pricing just seems a bit off
wind garden
Can someone go to poe.ninja and tell me what a 6L pledge of hands is showing for price?
Mine shows 5.5ex but poe.trade shows 4.5
Trying to tell if it's me or poe.ninja that's messing up
deft jolt
Ninja shows 5.5, ovh shows 5.4, trade shows 4.5
I'm guessing a couple of people just listed it an ex cheaper?
delicate ore
@gritty olive how goes currencycop?
fickle yew
@wind garden In my experience when it looks too different from actual listings I usually find the answer when I toggle the search to also include offline players
wind garden
i tried that too
there's no resemblance
there's a lot of listings between 4 and 4.5ex
nowhere close to 5.5
also look at the sparkline
it's completely flat
in fact, they all look flat for the last 2 days
kinda like they stopped updating
wind garden
could be confirmation bias
but it seems a little strange considering how far off some item prices are
look at chin sol
poe.ninja lists it at 5ex but poe trade has 2 at 4ex and 3 at 4.5ex
all online too
deft jolt
well it's not poe.ninja's fault
people list ~40 6l chin sols a day
some of them will be cheaper than the rest
wind garden
ya but normally poe.ninja adjusts accordingly
i don't know on what interval though
but I can look through my logs and see prices change regularly
fickle yew
Hm, the online search for 6l pledge looks reasonable with 5.5 here.. The listings for me go: 4.5, 5, 5.5, 5.5, 5.5, 5.7, 6, 6.5.
But yeah the graphs do look a bit wonky 😃
@wind garden You're right. My river fetching had stalled for some reason (unknown so far).
It's running again now.
Thanks for the heads up!
lost wigeon
@simple ravine The stats are a bit delayed since it takes a lot of time to compute them over the whole set of items.
grave wren
Hm regarding the builds section, when do builds pop up?
Some of my chars are missing from poe.ninja > builds
fickle yew
@grave wren They pop up daily if they're on one of the ladders and >= level 80.
(and if they're not looted - missing items)
So right now you need at least level 93 to show up on Bestiary
fickle yew
There's a some 80-92 characters in the Bestiary page atm tho - but that's a bug - those are people that opted out of SSF
so they are technically on a ladder..
Just the SSF one as retired 😃
grave wren
ah that explains it
fickle yew
They'll be gone in a few days though
I have a 7 day grace period from I last saw people on laddder.
grave wren
opting out of ssf
disgusting :>
i've probably forgotten to swap from bsc to bscssf too but it's interesting to see.
do you snapshot guys who go private or are they removed too?
fickle yew
I list the last useful snapshot I have.
Same if people remove items.
The concept is not so much to be a ladder, more to be a useful collection of builds and statistics.
grave wren
nice, yeah that helps a bunch
fickle yew
I want to list the reason a build isn't updated though
(and when it was last updated)
People seem to be confused when it's not 😃
grave wren
i'd just like to get an overview over all leagues when filtering for items
for example getting all leagues chars for weirdos using vortex
fickle yew
Wow there's only one Vortex player in my list
grave wren
or if its easier to keep the filtered stuff when swapping between leagues
that'd also be nice
grave wren
oh
fickle yew
But Vortex isn't used in all leagues
grave wren
i see
fickle yew
Try with Blade Vortex
grave wren
Right, sorry didnt check that one 😄
Not sure if showing empty results would be less confusing for some but that's not an issue i'd say
Too bad that you can "only" get the ladder stats
the post from ggg today about used skills was lacking compared to the tools you provide
fickle yew
Initially I was indexing accounts based on the trade river.
But the rate limiting is pretty harsh for indexing that many accounts. And it's quite the hassle.
You have to come up with heuristics for whether you think a given account is worth fetching again now.
If it's worth spending your rate limit on.
grave wren
Ah ok, understandable
fickle yew
But yeah, I'd love to have 90+ in BSC
88-92 is usually how far I go with my characters anyway.
grave wren
I'd love to have stats about acc age and playtime of an acc too
so you could really do "meta" snapshots
even grouped in knowledge/playtime tiers
fickle yew
I'm guessing the avg account age is pretty high for 93+
grave wren
true but imagine if you could reliably get 80+ chars
it'd be really interesting
As it stands now i mostly use your page to check how others build stuff like iron commander
fickle yew
There's an infinite amount of work to do on improving stat calculations etc though.
grave wren
which is really interesting
fickle yew
The dream would be to list DPS, but realistically.. Yeah 😃
grave wren
yeah that'd be quite a lot of additional calculations 😄
grave wren
I mean you are assembling a pob import, if you can somehow arrange the gems right it might work that way
fickle yew
I am "manually" creating a PoB import.
PoB is not involved.
So my import doesn't contain the normal summary stats
grave wren
ah too bad
grave wren
hm i think xyz did a port to run it on a webserver
but would still need quite some changes to use it for your site i guess
timid hemlock
There isn't really anything stopping you from running PoB headless on Linux, if you write a wrapper around the Lua code
fickle yew
Interesting. It just seemed that quite a bit of the code was coupled with the UI
timid hemlock
You just need to write dummy functions for all the rendering stuff
fickle yew
I guess you could write a wrapper that represented them as nothing 😃
timid hemlock
Then manipulate the program's modules directly 😃
fickle yew
Yeah that'd work.
timid hemlock
I'd think it'd be quite easy, actually
fickle yew
Probably easier than getting my own calculation engine up to date anyway 😃
timid hemlock
Problably 😉
fickle yew
It's still stuck in PoE 2.0 land
grave wren
i'll run poison obliteration wander in your poe 2.0 land, where do i apply 😉
fickle yew
My calculator does have support for poison.. But not the Obliteration mod though 😃
Thanks for the feedback @timid hemlock - I'll consider the wrapper thingy 😃
timid hemlock
No problem 😃
grave wren
aw, but a headless wrapper for pob would be interesting
fickle yew
It'd unlock a metric ton of community tools 😃
timid hemlock
Probably!
Bugger it, I'll take a look now
With my knowledge of the program, this shouldn't take long
fickle yew
Yeah that's my issue.. Just figuring out the approach would probably take me a while.
So if you get to 10% and decide not to do it, atleast put it on a branch for inspiration 😃
timid hemlock
Ok, managed to get it to start, and load a build
Easy peasy
200 lines of code, most of it just empty functions
o_O
grave wren
nice
timid hemlock
Starts up pretty quick when texture loading is a nop
grave wren
i'd love to be able to query keystones btw. 😄
timid hemlock
How do you mean?
grave wren
when you load up a build it'd be neat to get all assigned keystones (vp, acro, ...)
timid hemlock
Oh right
grave wren
because you'd need to parse the tree yourself otherwise
so double the work for the same thing you already do in pob 😃
timid hemlock
Right, so you want that in the build file?
fickle yew
@grave wren don't sidetrack him..!
grave wren
😦
fickle yew
He's doing important work
grave wren
headless version would be fine too 😄
timid hemlock
Said important work is done, actually 😛
grave wren
but if its in the xml it'd also be great
timid hemlock
Getting it from the headless version is easy enough
fickle yew
@timid hemlock Is it on a branch somewhere?
fickle yew
Cool. Thanks!
grave wren
nice :3 might use that as well if i can draw more things out of it
fickle yew
I did do a bit of hacking on a PoB fork. Added so I could get stat weights for my build to put into poe.trade for jewel searches.
Worked great.
Turns up some jewels you wouldn't normally expect sometimes. Just shows how complex the whole thing is.
timid hemlock
😃
fickle yew
Sorting jewels by added DPS is pretty nice. I basically just iterate through a small list of stats and calc how much 1% gives me.
fickle yew
Interestingly most of the jewels I've bought like that were like 5c and in the top 3-5 of my list.
(assuming you don't want life)
grave wren
with abyss i can imagine it being really crazy
to find really good ones for your specific build that you normally wouldnt look at
fickle yew
grave wren
interesting, never used the weighted search
tbh didnt even look at any crit chance on jewels yet
maybe i've missed some amazing stuff 😮
timid hemlock
I'm adding in a few goodies here
Like the ability to import from the provided get-passive-skills or get-items JSON
grave wren
Interesting, then i could update the bot to preview from profile links too 😮
timid hemlock
Indeed
fickle yew
That'll be nice. My "create-pob-export" code is rather hacky 😃
grave wren
how do you get the right active skill gem though
you'd probably need a list of active gems, and some guesswork?
timid hemlock
Kinda
I'm actually not sure what the easiest way is
Other than letting PoB do it for you >_>
grave wren
😄
i mean iterating through all groups and picking the most dmg one is always an option i guess
fickle yew
Getting active skill gem is always challenging 😃 Some people run 2 6 links
and some people run nothing but <= 4 links (like RF)
grave wren
especially with shaper/elder stuff yep
fickle yew
I still count those as links
grave wren
i mean before that it was 99% either in the body or weapon slot
fickle yew
Yeah
fickle yew
That amount of detail that goes into calculating your average high level Guardian's Energy Shield is insane 😃
timid hemlock
Isn't it!
fickle yew
Do you support the jewels that change other nodes in range yet? This Guardian is using Healthy Mind to convert life nodes to mana nodes, but it looks like they're not affecting his mana.
timid hemlock
PoB has always supported those
timid hemlock
Build plix
fickle yew
timid hemlock
Oh right, poe.ninja
fickle yew
I was just looking through a random Guardian to determine what actually goes into the calculation.
I just grabbed the PoB export from that char to look at.
timid hemlock
You're not exporting the radius value for jewels
So PoB has no idea that they're supposed to be affecting nearby nodes
fickle yew
Ah great, I can fix that then 😃
fickle yew
You do show the correct radius though: https://i.imgur.com/42QFgov.jpg
timid hemlock
No, that always shows when you hover over a jewel socket
If the jewel is working correctly then the radius will display when you're not hovering
fickle yew
Ah, the medium one just looks highlighted compared to the other colors.
timid hemlock
You should see the radius in the tooltip itself if it is working correctly
Nah, that's just the radius colour scheme
fickle yew
I'll add the radius to my export
fickle yew
It's an interesting way to appreciate the depth of the build system.
timid hemlock
Indeed
fickle yew
Cookies?
timid hemlock
We have them on the dark side
timid hemlock
😛
fickle yew
My stat calculator was the first tool for poe I worked on. So it's... 3 years old?
timid hemlock
Yikes
fickle yew
poe.ninja was just a weekend project because my friend wanted currency rates 😃
timid hemlock
Hehe
And look how it grew
Mind you, PoB was a simple damage calculator 3 years ago
Wasn't even meant to be released, ever...
fickle yew
Atleast you've solved all the problems now 😛
timid hemlock
Pfft I wish
fickle yew
How's the JSON import going to work?
timid hemlock
However the hell you want
fickle yew
I mean for my indexer I have both those JSON pieces.
timid hemlock
There's a spot in the wrapper file where you can put your own code to mess around
timid hemlock
I've added a few helper functions to work with
fickle yew
That's fine.
My previous iteration obviously doesn't include PoB running near my software.
timid hemlock
Such as one that loads a build from the 3 JSONs (get-characters is needed too)
fickle yew
Hence my "manual" export.
timid hemlock
Yeah 😃
fickle yew
I had fun with your cough UTF-8 support in item names too!
timid hemlock
_>
<_<
That's one of the side effects of starting out as a hacked-together DPS calculator
fickle yew
I also found one my my exports a while back that listed a Jewel in the Skills tab 😃
Lost that export though.
timid hemlock
.... the heck...
fickle yew
I'm sure that's my bad though.
timid hemlock
Probably ❤
fickle yew
or a very complicated UTF 8 encoded item name that coincidentally made it look like a jewel.
Could be.
What do you need from get-characters?
Aren't they all in the character part of items json?
timid hemlock
Let me look
fickle yew
],"character":{"name":"...","league":"Bestiary","classId":4,"ascendancyClass":3,"class":"Champion","level":91}} from items-json
{"name":"...","league":"Bestiary","classId":0,"ascendancyClass":1,"class":"Ascendant","level":86} from get-characters
fickle yew
Yup, you need get-items and get-passive-skills
timid hemlock
The program normally handles them 100% separately
So I'd need to add special code to the wrapper to hook the character data from get-items into the passive tree import
fickle yew
Yeah that makes sense.
Not really rocket science for me to do that 😃
Then again rocket science is pretty basic compared to Path of Exile build science.
timid hemlock
Yup, but I'm making changes to the program's code to accommodate this
It wasn't possible to pass JSON into the import code before
fickle yew
Ah
timid hemlock
So I need to make sure this can be done easily
fickle yew
Basically the usecase would be: Import stuff, ... maybe toggle a few calc conditions ..., export including summary.
I still have to understand the build to know what makes sense though.
So I doubt I could even get rid of my build parsing code if I wanted to.
timid hemlock
Indeed
fickle yew
Just having the wrapper is a big help. I can manually add a backdoor function in my version if needed.
timid hemlock
Ok, import from JSON is working properly
I've committed the wrapper (and necessary changes to ImportTab) to the dev branch
Have fun
lost wigeon
@simple ravine Since you're a C# sensei, which resource would you recommend me to learn the language? I've used it mostly with Unity 3D so I'm not a total beginner and I also have a good knowledge of Java and C++.
wind garden
@lost wigeon I really like the youtube tutorials by Derek Banas. You can check him out here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p0JLFZj2C8&list=PLGLfVvz_LVvRX6xK1oi0reKci6ignjdSa
there's also a decently popular C# discord server for questions
a couple recommendations I'd give, if you're doing GUI work, use a WPF framework like MvvmLight. Learn to use a dependency injector like Unity (not the game engine) or my personal favorite SimpleInjector
and read up a bunch of the async/task library
wind garden
i haven't read it personally but I've generally had good experience with any of the Oriley books
grave wren
ah too bad, same here
wind garden
I learned c# pretty quick, it's easy to get started. The stuff that takes more time is GUI stuff
learning the framework and its quirks
lost wigeon
@wind garden Thanks a lot for the links. I'll take a look 😃
grave wren
I've only used xna and unity yet for c# myself
wind garden
i like WPF now but you really have to get used to data binding and how the UI notification system works
otherwise you run into weird issues where stuff doesn't update and you're spending large amounts of time googling stuff without success
if you have experience with JavaScript I'd recommend using a web front end for any GUI stuff and a .Net Core service for backend
that'll be portable and more future-proof
grave wren
Not a huge fan of any UI frameworks in java/c#, i've looked into both and it seemed quite convoluted
wind garden
that's why people use UI framework libraries to help
MvvmLight is popular
so is CaliburnMicro
grave wren
will take a look, thanks
wind garden
@lost wigeon I have an example project on github that includes a number of handy things for GUI and a starter project
can check it out here https://github.com/Retik/ExampleGUI
also includes a wix installer for easy deployment
grave wren
The main thing keeping me from c# is that deving on a mac was kinda meh
should be way better now
wind garden
Visual Studio for Mac has come a long ways
you won't be able to do WPF on a mac though
which is why I recommended JavaScript
you can use Mono to run on mac but it's slowly being replaced by the portable .Net Core
.Net Core 2.0 supports like 99% of the .Net Framework APIs
grave wren
yeah i've heard that. MonoDevelop is the bane of my c# exp
wind garden
think it's all but like 46 APIs
I used Visual Studio for Mac to develop my iPhone app
used c# and xamarin
grave wren
didnt exist back then 😄
wind garden
ya vscode is great too
the plugins are actually better in some respects
and it's wayyy faster
grave wren
Interesting 😄
simple ravine
@lost wigeon I have a few resources that I got for another C# aspirant, I'll dig those up for you. I've been doing C# for 15 years, so I am a bit out of touch on the learning resources.
But you have previous developer experience. Mind lettming me know what other languages than Javascript you know?
grave wren
i'd also be interested if you dig either way :p - Java/Python/PHP some C(++)
simple ravine
yeah I asked around in a couple of communities I'm known in, and just going through my @'s in them right now
grave wren
❤
simple ravine
I haven't been active in there, but still someone referred to me on a question distributed virtual actors 10 days ago... and I realized that now lol
grave wren
time to get typing!
simple ravine
I'm sure he figured it out by now, after 10 days. If he didn't, he's a lost cause anyway 😄
Ok so these two books are the ones for C# specifically:
C# in Depth, 4th Edition
https://www.manning.com/books/c-sharp-in-depth-fourth-edition
C# 7 in a Nutshell
https://www.amazon.com/C-7-0-Nutshell-Definitive-Reference/dp/1491987650
grave wren
ha good, so the nutshells are probably good for basically any language nice
simple ravine
the Manning one is made by Jon Skeet, who's a frigging rock star
anything Jon Skeet or Eric Lippert is a good read
fickle yew
@timid hemlock It seems to have problems initializing properly:
grave wren
I think i've looked into one of their books on the play framework
fickle yew
Error running script:
Classes/ImportTab.lua:696: attempt to index field 'skillsTab' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
Classes/ImportTab.lua:696: in function 'ImportSocketedItems'
Classes/ImportTab.lua:589: in function 'ImportItem'
Classes/ImportTab.lua:429: in function 'ImportItemsAndSkills'
.\HeadlessWrapper.lua:189: in function 'loadBuildFromJSON'
.\HeadlessWrapper.lua:211: in main chunk
thanks for the suggestions it's appreciated 😃
simple ravine
nice.. after today's Windows Update, my PoE is running like shit
hah, nevermind
multithread got turned off
grave wren
i had issues with the old fall creators update so could also be win :>
there is some rare bug that leads to the antimalwareexe to scan itself
leading to one cpu core being at max
simple ravine
interesting
Windows 10 is the version I've had the least issues with
very happy with it actually
grave wren
i just downgraded to pre fall update and it runs like a charm
didnt bother trying again
grave wren
but tbh never had huge issues with win since vista
simple ravine
nah, not too big of issues
a bit nuisance with win 8
but other than that, it's been pretty great.. a lot of people complain about it, but that's normally issues between the chair and the keyboard
simple ravine
they said Windows 10 was the last version of Windows as we know it right?
grave wren
apparently
fingers crossed it wont be a subscription based approach
abandoned most adobe stuff due to this philosophy
simple ravine
well I like the subscription thing for software
it allows more people to have a legitimate copy of the software without shelling out thousands of dollars in one go
grave wren
i've found a good replacement for ps and illustrator in affinity designer
but it adds up so much
a tenner there, twenty here, fifty for a phone bill etc
simple ravine
yeah, i mean if u dont use it that much
grave wren
i mean i am by no means a designer either
so i wouldnt bother with PS if there is a decent cheap alternative
chrome topaz
you can subscribe to windows?
grave wren
there were rumors for the new win versions
because MS released news of this being the last windows ever released
simple ravine
xyz, msdn subscription for visual studio etc
im an avid user of the enterprise features in visual studio
most people wouldn't, in fact i would recommend most to get community edition
grave wren
i came to enjoy jetbrains stuff
simple ravine
i hate a love/hate relationship with them
ReSharper (plugin for visual studio) is making everything sluggish unless your computer isn't a nuclear reactor
grave wren
weird, i've only heard positive stuff about it
no issues with their IDEs for java and other langs either on my devices
simple ravine
ReSharper adds 9 seconds to startup of my visual studio lol
grave wren
ew
chrome topaz
CLion is pretty good on linux
grave wren
pycharm loads in ~10s for me including the project view
chrome topaz
and kinda the only option
simple ravine
xyz, tried VS Code?
chrome topaz
nope, I use sublime for text editing
simple ravine
well VS Code has become a semi-IDE
couple of employees who like to run linux/mac use VS Code and is quite happy with it
ionic yacht
VScode > all 😃
chrome topaz
yeah maybe i'll check it out, don't like microsoft though
wind garden
VSCode is one of the least microsofty things they've made
it's written in JavaScript and Electron
and is entirely plugin based with lots of suppport from the community
microsoft provides some of their own plugins, but you don't have to use them
chrome topaz
that just makes it worse
wind garden
not really
it's fast and lightweight
and customizable to your liking
@grave wren regarding Resharper, I've used it for 6+ years now and it does slow down VS quite a bit but I still rely on it. Jetbrains has their own standalone C# IDE called Rider which is very fast and has all the resharper features built in. They don't have suppor tyet for WPF preview though, it's coming in an update this year.
Rider is also cross platform and works on Mac
simple ravine
I did not like Rider at all
simple ravine
I downloaded and gave it a try a month ago
wind garden
the IDE is tailored to be closer to PyCharm or IntelliJ
so if you're used to using either of those, it's probably easier
chrome topaz
I really like how all their IDEs have same ui so i can switch between android studio, clion, pycharm and feel at home
winter fossil
VS Code's way of handling merge conflicts is really nice. Worth installing just for that cause
simple ravine
Git for Windows added merge editor support with VS Code
pretty good testament of that indeed
pseudo ocean
niice
delicate ore
<@&174997701513969665> can someone give me the tool developers role? here are my contributions https://github.com/rogueyoshi
versed ginkgo
@delicate ore Thank you for your contributions, I'm sure they'll be used. :D
Although for one to obtain the Tool-Dev role you'll need more in depth tools for the game. Unfortunately those AHK scripts will not be sufficient.
We do appreciate your efforts, stick around and keep it up - You might come up with something awesome 👍
delicate ore
i guess i will just have to work on chaoshelper then
delicate ore
the main issue i'm having with it is actually making a gui for it
i can't use electron for it since some people play fullscreen
have to use CEF and draw a directx overlay
but then again, i need to figure out how to do input events too
its a hassle, the base program already works though
simple ravine
So you're familiar with DDD and SOLID etc?
lost wigeon
Actually I'm familiar with Continuous integration
gritty olive
Its ok
simple ravine
DDD stands for Domain Driven Development
gritty olive
Ddd
simple ravine
It's a way to architect and structure your business logic in applications
gritty olive
It can get unweidly
simple ravine
Especially works well with ES (event sourcing) and CQRS (Command Query Responsibility Segregation)
bot not a necessarity
lost wigeon
Got a lot to read 😄
simple ravine
blue book, u probably will want to read twice 😄
some of the stuff isn't really clear the first time for most readers
but the elevator pitch tldr is
- put your logic where it belongs, in the domain model
- don't use anemic domain models
- structure your logic based on the business
lost wigeon
Yeah I guess I will have to read it several times 😄
simple ravine
It's worth it.
gritty olive
You can run that one locally, and you can create reports, if you want to remove reports, you'll have to delete your files for now
But it gives you the proper amounts
torpid mesa
'legal flask macro' isnt legal
unless ggg made an exception for you it breaks their rule of 1 button = exactly one action always every time no conditions
delicate ore
ah i see
i made that when i heard the only rules for macros was one press = one server side action
wind garden
PoE has built in detectors for popsicle stick macros too
simple ravine
should be pretty easy to get around if you're ambitious enough... but what's the fun in playing then?
grave wren
pick pathfinder, have more flask charges than you could possibly spam away \o/
torpid mesa
gotcha yeah they have refined their rules over time and i guess we have refined our understanding
grave wren
I honestly do not think they have a set of rules
Feels like it depends a lot on who responds
torpid mesa
i think they have a set of rules that they want to enforce but some support agents dont know them
like if you stick to: 1 button = exactly one and only one and that same one action every time, they have allowed it
outside of support agents that seem to not understand the question
deft jolt
they probably want it to remain vague
grave wren
obscurity never helps imo
hushed relic
It does in this case I think. It's a general "anti-smartassery rule"
They want to minimize automation
One can build a auto-stash-sorter that completely obeys the current rules
If it wouldn't be for how vague they are
I don't think GGG would honestly track or waste their time on finding people who run things like the flask macro - UNLESS you do it in public - that's a great way to become an example
I mean - things like Mercurial trade and trade macro are already border-level grey
grave wren
that would've been my counter
Some things already do not obey the things they said to others but apparently are fine because the dev didnt bother to ask
which makes it a bit moot in my opinion
hushed relic
Well, they're also doing it to prevent a... "tooling power creep"
I think the general rule is: as long as it only provides you with information or does chat commands - that's ok
as soon as it actually moves items, activates flasks, skills or anything else
that's not to GGG's liking
simple ravine
I use MercuryTrade and I haven't seen any actions that wouldn't be ok based on the rules that have been communicated so far.
hushed relic
Whispering a player, is technically several button-presses
grave wren
But having this as written rule does not seem to allow power creep does it? It'd just clarify the points instead of having to manually propose the pitch to a support guy who then tries to use the guidelines to judge it
hushed relic
The support clearly has the directive: "tell no"
simple ravine
In my opinion, the power of 3rd party tools aren't as much with the game-play anyways.. I like that 'vanilla', personally. But gathering data from different sources, and intelligently combine and asses that data and present conclusions to the user, and combined with simple 1-server-actions are what I believe are the most powerful and what we'll see in power-creep on the horizon
hushed relic
Yeah whistles
simple ravine
@hushed relic It's my understanding that it's one server-action, and a whisper with multiple key-presses are still counted as 1 of such
Yep... cough
grave wren
ssfbtw
hushed relic
That'd legalize auto-sorting though
grave wren
reported both of you for those heretic thoughts
simple ravine
How would you do the auto-sorting that way?
hushed relic
Remember the stash layout
Assume you start at first tab
Constantly hit 1 button
that button iterates through your inventory spaces, ctrl+Cs each
moves the stash left/right based on a ruleset
ctrl+clicks it if it's on the right spot
(chris disapproved)
grave wren
oh yeah just wanted to ask, i remember this idea
personally I'd be content if they'd finally have a multitab approach
to* help with sorting the stash
hushed relic
Absolutely
though, I feel like it has become less horrible since I started farming T16/shaped/uber elder instead of bleach my eyes with non-stop shaped maps
grave wren
Well i just abandon any idea of trying stuff in standard
hushed relic
the pace is slower and you get valuable items instead of a stream of smaller finds
simple ravine
Just play hideout-warrior xD
grave wren
because my stash order is reset every time it merges and i have 193282301923 tabs
simple ravine
I did in the past days while working... but it makes you completely braindead during intense hours lol
grave wren
:<
hushed relic
mine's 0/5 😉
Yeah, the last elder is annoying
but it's not that bad
first of all, uber elder is way harder than most people assume, and most builds have no business going there. It just leads to frustrated players who can't farm shaper/elder at all, because uber hocks the middle of the atlas
simple ravine
I'm moderating Lifting's stream (and work on a couple of projects with him, etc)... he stopped his stream early yesterday in a ragequit when elder spawned on a T13 and a guardian spawned on a T15
hushed relic
then elder farming is fairly profitable, especially at the start
but it is annoying
hushed relic
I understand that
I only got the first "succesfully corrupted" essence yesterday
was wondering, if I'd ever find one
simple ravine
Successfully corrupted.. as in upgrading to Hysteria et al?
hushed relic
Yep
grave wren
Boons of SSF you can likely just ignore uber elder as it won't happen even if you solely play there :>
But all in all it seems the users just cry about anything
When the sparse alch meme was made i was sitting on 80 alch in ssf
no chance of depleting them
Tried crafting an amu this week so i went down to 30 and am at 80 again
hushed relic
I felt the alch thing too though
This league I experienced some crazy shortage of alchemies
I think we were just too used to harbinger/abyss dropping tons of loot, while filters became progressively strict and people cared less and less about picking up trash uniques
grave wren
Yep
That was also an interesting phenomenon which mostly didnt bother me
I'm running with a modified semi-strict version of your filter
so I didnt really feel the problems
I feel the issues of getting red maps though
might be either bad RNG or something changed
hushed relic
I felt issues with those at <125 map completed without heavy map invesmtnet
and for T15/T16 sustain I still need to throw in everything I have (prophecies/sextants/chisels/chaos orbs/zana rolls)
At some point you'll reach an isle of stability with red maps
where you can easily sustain T11-T14
grave wren
hm probably, just getting to it is a bit meh
@fickle yew Just out of curiosity, are you using the headless wrapper directly for PoB or are you putting something else in front of it to make usage easier? 😄
wind garden
@versed ginkgo no, not seriously lol
versed ginkgo
Ahah okay
wind garden
it was a joke at GGG's practice of banning things they can't possibly enforce
versed ginkgo
Quite funny
wind garden
you've seen this haven't you?
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5t303e/popsicle_stick_over_12345_for_flasks_is_not/
versed ginkgo
Earlier today yeah, they say one button press for several macros and not for several keyboard actions
fickle yew
@grave wren didn't do much with it yet. Work..
grave wren
Ah too bad :<
deft jolt
Anyone have an excerpt of a beachhead map from the public stash api?
shadow dune
oh hey
does anyone here know who runs poe.trade
or more specifically the best way to get in touch with them
grave wren
xyz does
shadow dune
just "xyz" on here?
i've never seen him speak; don't want to bother the wrong person
chrome topaz
the best way is through the forum thread https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/109153 unless it's confidential then you can send me a PM or an email
grave wren
@velvet fog could there be problems with vaal implicits on poedb? http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Quiver Pretty sure there are some jewel implicits mixed in 😮
e.g. 5% reduced Chill Duration on You is not an outcome for quivers afaik
velvet fog
@grave wren thanks
whole warren
Increased area of effect on corrupt belts also not searchable (and lvl21 gems but idk if that's related or another issue)
grave wren
chrome topaz
looking good, package it up and put on npm
grave wren
missing some npm_package modules
maybe something to print stuff
in color and emojis
chrome topaz
in color? I got just what you need https://www.npmjs.com/package/ansi-red
simple ravine
facepalm.
whole warren
it's beautiful thank you for sharing
velvet fog
[RIP] LabCompass 1.3.0 release - Loot Locations
gritty olive
rip
hazy fog
🔫
slow forge
I mean they ain't killing the app, which is what I was afraid of
grave wren
i found the usability too annoying to ever use it more than once to try it
why bother with an app if i can just have the pic on my 2nd monitor
grave wren
fair enough
slow forge
After re-reading Chris' message I sorta stopped understanding, if they're killing the app or that loot location thing
slow forge
Wish someone would clarify, but I doubt anyone but Chris knows what he really meant
grave wren
They will remove the logging of the area id
so the tool cannot show the location of the stuff anymore
end of story
slow forge
PoELab dev on Reddit also mentioned that their data comes from those log lines as well, so does that mean PoELab is gonna get put down too?
grave wren
Why would they be put down a player runs this lab
and records the layout
the tool just cannot show loot locations anymore
if they wanted to shut down they could just randomize the layouts more or the complete lab
slow forge
So it's just loot locations then, I'm relieved
slow forge
On a different note, I wish there was a way on Discord to see who is developer of what application. 'Cus I found about a lot of interesting apps through this chat, yet for some Tool Devs I have no clue what they made. Is there a sub reddit or something a kin to that where tool devs post their releases and such?
slow forge
While you're here, nice job on the Pricer app, loving it for listing maps quickly @deft jolt
deft jolt
glad to get feedback 👌
slow forge
My only gripe with it, is that it pulls up PoE Trade Macro tooltips, but I thought it was mostly because they use similar shortcuts/keybinds
deft jolt
Hm don't know. Both are written in two completely different languages
I can easily change the styling of the tooltips if that's what you mean
It's just the default style
slow forge
No, it's different
Give me a sec
So what happens is, if I run Pricer and PoE Trade Macro simultaneously, when I go to right-click an item it will give PoE Trade Macro tooltip + add a price in the note (through Pricer). However when I do not run Pricer, PoE Trade Macro tooltip doesn't appear.
Looks like this, note with price is buried under PoE Tarde Macro tooltip
grave wren
can't you setup two different hotkeys to separate actions?
deft jolt
Not really sure why that's happening
to the best of my knowledge these two programs shouldn't be able to infer with each other to that extent
slow forge
@grave wren Thing is when I don't run Pricer, PoE Trade Macro tooltip doesn't appear on right click
grave wren
huh weird
you could try to rebind poe macros hotkey to another one
if it doesnt happen then the pricer uses the combo for something
deft jolt
It's possible that trademacro listens to clipboard events which in turn activates the trademacro window
Cause Pricer does copy item data to clipboard on right click
slow forge
Also Pricer seems to be overriding the Ctrl+D shortcut from PoETM causing the tooltip from PoETM to never appear and puts the price check for the item into Pricer window
Dunno if that's intended
deft jolt
Not sure what that app is
slow forge
I shortened PoE Trade Macro
deft jolt
ah
slow forge
Tired of typing out the whole thing lol
So the first problem would be fixed if I just rebind Trade Macro's Ctrl+C to some other key?
slow forge
Yep
deft jolt
pricer basically inputs ctrl+c on right click
slow forge
Now question is how to make Trade Macro not take that Ctrl+C
Maybe some magic will happen and only Pricer can take Ctrl+C? Like with Ctrl+D shortcut
deft jolt
Well the thing with those is that any program can listen for clipboard events
same with keystrokes
so it's pretty hard to distinguish if a program should act upon an event
grave wren
No clue if it works @slow forge POE-TradeMacro\resources\ahk => line 83: ParseItemHotKey := "^c" change to any other key of your choice
iirc ^ is the ctrl modifier
grave wren
i even use the item info thingy in ssf 😄
slow forge
Erm, which file again?
slow forge
I'll try, thank you
And what's with Ctrl+D shortcut then @deft jolt Does Pricer just intercept it before it gets to PoE Trade Macro?
deft jolt
Nope. It only listens to clipboard write events and RMB presses
doesn't cancel anything
slow forge
Hmm
deft jolt
ctrl+d should open a window right?
slow forge
It opens trade search
deft jolt
what happens if you press a key when the window's open
slow forge
PoE Trade Macro doesn't show it's tooltip and Pricer displays same text as it would if I right clicked the item
deft jolt
i mean without pricer
slow forge
Sec
deft jolt
does trademacro automatically close its window on button press
slow forge
Without Pricer, this window closes on cursor movement
Also @grave wren Unfortunately despite me changing that shortcut, PoE Trade Macro still seems to give it's tooltip stuff on Ctrl+C
grave wren
Hm just to make sure, did you exit and reload it?
slow forge
Yep
grave wren
aw
slow forge
Twice
deft jolt
Could be a case of both windows using topmost
slow forge
It's fine, I'm in no rush for that anyway
@deft jolt Ctrl+D with Pricer, no PoE Trade Macro window showed up pretty much
It's a minor thing anyway
deft jolt
I'll take a look
@slow forge I'm not really sure. Only thing that comes to mind is Pricer overwriting the clipboard before trademacro can act upon it
slow forge
Well as I said it's small thing, overall the app saved me some invaluable time on pricing what at this point is dozens of maps
gritty olive
yeah that app is billions times better imo than trademacro
deft jolt
glad at least some people like it
slow forge
Hey @gritty olive Really enjoying CurrencyCop as well. I have a bit of a question though, is it possible and if it is, will you implement map tab support at some point?
void blade
Think the issue right now is that the Map Tab doesn't work on the website, which CurrencyCop pulls its information frmo
Not 100% sure tho
trim gazelle
is it possible to craft aspect skills on to items in PoB atm?
wind garden
k how does this happen. I see a 6L chest show up on poe.trade live search. I message the person instantly. They say that they already sold it about a minute before.
what indexer is faster than poe.trade live search by a full minute?
grave wren
maybe none he couldve just told you sold
slow forge
I sometimes tell that to people when I'm feeling lazy
Feel a bit bad afterwards though
whole warren
I do it when I know I've underpriced something but I don't know by how much so I can reprice it until I stop getting messaged instantly T__T
I feel a little bad but then the rush of capitalism kicks in
simple ravine
hmm, time for a new live-search comparison maybe
hollow oriole
If it doesn't exist , making a system where the buyer can also put his wantings would be awesome on poe.trade
hazy fog
how would you recommend doing so
hollow oriole
there are similar sites with the thing i've recommended for other games
i can post em later
chrome topaz
@simple ravine checked it yet?
simple ravine
nah, shaper is like santa right now, dropping flasks like a mad man
wind garden
it's weird, poe.trade doesn't seem slow right now. It's like there's somebody out there with a private indexer that's still working somehow.
chrome topaz
don't bother I'm sure poetrade is 💯 the best
pulsar moat
@wind garden try posting an item and comparing it with pathofexile.com/trade and poeapp.com?
wind garden
i will when I get off work
but my suspicion is that they'll be really close in speed
which is why this seems strange
for anyone suspecting that the person was just trolling me, he seemed rather disappointed after having realized that he sold it for too low by about 50ex. Pretty inclined to believe that he did indeed sell it and that he was telling the truth that he sold it more than 5 seconds before I whispered him.
pulsar moat
you were on live search?