#tooldev-general | Path of Exile 1 & 2 | Page 37

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:39 AM

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no apxeolog, it is what it is

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:39 AM

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i see

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:39 AM

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you have to manually ~enumerate~ @prisma prism

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iterate*

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:40 AM

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@tulip gale yeah, i meant reduce the data count returnd from the backed

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:41 AM

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like I was telling claymore, you can start later on if you don't care about standard/hardcore

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:41 AM

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@compact isle thanks for the clarification btw! Are there any plans to introduce filters in the future?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:41 AM

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then just filter them out of the updates you get

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not to my knowledge no

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:41 AM

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wrong mention lol

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:41 AM

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that poor Novak guy

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😉

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:42 AM

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@compact isle the change ids are random?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:42 AM

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they're not

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:43 AM

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so the default api request gives me 2151-4130-3306-4050-1240 next id

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how old is the data for it

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like what do you mean by 'start later'. the ids are date-based and i can calculate them someow?

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how will i know the id of the beginning of the breach league

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:45 AM

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nope, your best bet is to use something like poe.ninja

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I asked very similar questions

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a few mins ago

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:45 AM

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Interesting that adding that id was actually useful. I added it in the very early stages of poe.ninja dev.

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:46 AM

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you're poe.ninja dev?

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:46 AM

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Yup

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:46 AM

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someone lied that you are not on this discord guild!

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:46 AM

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I just joined 5 min ago

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:46 AM

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I see then

waxen ridge Dec 21, 2016, 8:47 AM

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well then welcome to the tool chat 😃

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:47 AM

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are you fine with me querying some of your endpoints?

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for such data

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like change ids or market value

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:47 AM

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Thanks, lots of useful people here to stay up to date 😃

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:47 AM

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welcome rasmuski o/

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:47 AM

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hello @compact isle and thanks for the help on poe dev reddit in the past

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:48 AM

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what's the secret meaning of the change ids? i provide just random ids to the api and it still returns data

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:48 AM

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@prisma prism think of it this way, the stashes in the list you just got were in the first 1240 to change when the API went live

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:48 AM

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@tulip gale As long as long as the query amount is low, it's okay. If you do anything public with it, attribution would be nice.

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:48 AM

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happy to help 😃

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:48 AM

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The server load after Breach has been quite insane.

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:49 AM

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Thank you @fickle yew, absolutely

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:49 AM

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I really need to make a powerpoint presentation or something on how the stash api works lol

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apparently my summary in the dev docs isn't enough 😦

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:50 AM

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@compact isle what data is returned if id is not found?

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like this http://api.pathofexile.com/public-stash-tabs?id=0000-0000-0000-0000-7777 still provide me some data

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 8:50 AM

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Be sure to add data about the special messages for throttling and maintenance mode.

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:50 AM

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stashes will be empty and you'll get the same change_id you passed in back

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oh, good idea

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:51 AM

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but this data is not empty

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:51 AM

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so what's the real throttling now?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:51 AM

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ye, because the current max change id is like around 36,000,000

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 8:51 AM

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1/s is fine?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:51 AM

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yes

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hmm

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okay APXEOLOG, what's a programming language you know?

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I can pseudocode this up

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:53 AM

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mmm idk, java, js, c, php, anything else

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language is not a big deal tbh

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:54 AM

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ah awesome

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:54 AM

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i understand how the system works, the only thing i want is how to get the id of the most fresh data

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i don't want to know all prev tabs

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i just want to track new data

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:54 AM

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then grab the one from http://poe.ninja/stats

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 8:55 AM

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oh i see

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ok, thanks then

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 8:55 AM

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np, feel free to ask if you have any other questions

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 9:02 AM

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sad thing you don't give any timestamps in the data

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 9:03 AM

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well all data in the API is current at the point that you receive it

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 9:05 AM

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it's kinda true but... new service have no idea about all this information

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iirc the steam market api is close to your's one, but they have timestamps in the each data sets and you can also navigate back. and the root api request returns the newest data. so it's not like old -> new but new -> old crawling

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 9:10 AM

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hmm, that's interesting

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 9:10 AM

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@compact isle also, how do i check if user is online ingame right now? i bet poe.trade used ladder firstly

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 9:11 AM

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there's a private api you can get access to on a case-by-case basis

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 9:11 AM

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oh i see

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 9:12 AM

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To avoid abuse, right?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 9:13 AM

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yeah pretty much

prisma prism Dec 21, 2016, 9:13 AM

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imagine the thiefs who checks your poe online status to see when you will not be at home 😄

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 9:13 AM

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I was actually considering to apply for that for poe.ninja, since I could use the info to improve my weighting of prices.

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 9:13 AM

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privacy is a real concern 😦

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 9:57 AM

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@compact isle so basically I can lock anybody out of their account by failing to login as them (from a different IP) many times?

waxen ridge Dec 21, 2016, 9:58 AM

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Loooooool that's probably possible

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 9:58 AM

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but anyway, that's not the point -- can you or somebody else unlock this account? people are complaining

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how should I implement rate limiting on the login page?

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I mean most of the time it didn't even send the request because the hash element wasn't even here, but still got rate limited?

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I guess I accidentally started the bot again during a deploy

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 10:02 AM

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not at the office anymore so I can't give details

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but it looked like you were requesting too often still from your IP

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 10:03 AM

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so who can I contact about it?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 10:03 AM

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in order to do what? We can't single out accounts to disable or reset rate limiting on

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 10:05 AM

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well to discuss what I can do to avoid rate limiting like this

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 10:05 AM

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it sounds like it might be a useful thing to add, but right now nothing can really happen except waiting it out

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don't request the login page more than 5 times a minute and don't try to log in (and fail) 20 times within an hour

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 10:11 AM

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so it actually failed to log in? can you tell me what was the cause?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 10:12 AM

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it just logs the failure

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 10:12 AM

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ok noted about login page GET rate limit

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 10:15 AM

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@chrome topaz Do you have any place listing the new currency shorthands for the new blessings etc when doing stash notes for currency trades? The list page I was able to find on poe.trade doesn't have the new ones like Shaper sets and blessings.

timid fable Dec 21, 2016, 10:19 AM

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@fickle yew https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/58bpve/psa_you_can_now_search_for_sextants_and_full_sets/d903kh9/ sets not sure about blessings

[PSA] You can now search for sextants and full sets (atziri/uber...

264 points and 32 comments so far on reddit

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 10:20 AM

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yes of course, it's on the website http://currency.poe.trade/tags

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 10:20 AM

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Yeah I saw that one. I can just see people trying a lot of interesting notes to sell blessings etc 😃

timid fable Dec 21, 2016, 10:20 AM

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oh right

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 10:20 AM

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Thanks! I always found the old page I guess.

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Yeah I found this one from the page footer: http://poe.trade/html/tags.html

chrome topaz Dec 21, 2016, 10:23 AM

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it's different for poe.trade and currency.poe.trade which is why the link I posted only linked from the currency page

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 10:23 AM

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Yup, no selling your Starforge for 4x shaper set. Makes sense.

spark elbow Dec 21, 2016, 11:07 AM

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websocket?

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worthy cape Dec 21, 2016, 11:26 AM

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Persistent connection to your browser client for server to push state to you instead of you polling.

spark elbow Dec 21, 2016, 11:26 AM

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roger

long stratus Dec 21, 2016, 2:35 PM

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just curious is the trade makro working for everyone?

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it seems to not work for me : o

timid fable Dec 21, 2016, 2:42 PM

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@long stratus it's being blocked by cloudflare after the recent ddos on poe.trade. I guess it looks like bot traffic since it pretends to be a browser and everyone is using the same useragent in trademacro

long stratus Dec 21, 2016, 2:43 PM

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aye captain thanks for the info. Thought it was my fault so I've reinstalled it a dozen of times already 😛

tulip gale Dec 21, 2016, 4:02 PM

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is it normal that request times for the api are around 2-10s?

fickle yew Dec 21, 2016, 4:11 PM

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Yes

toxic spoke Dec 21, 2016, 4:59 PM

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out of curiosity, does anybody know how poe forums does their item embedding code?

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i can inspect it later but figured someone might have already played with this

cosmic saffron Dec 21, 2016, 5:02 PM

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lots of json

toxic spoke Dec 21, 2016, 5:08 PM

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from the stash api i assume?

compact isle Dec 21, 2016, 9:22 PM

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the same format, yes. But it embeds the json in the page

compact isle Dec 22, 2016, 12:57 AM

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anyone experiencing any problems with the api?

chrome topaz Dec 22, 2016, 1:01 AM

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seems working fine

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I mean it's returning some items

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was there a big change?

compact isle Dec 22, 2016, 1:03 AM

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nah, support just told me people were complaining their items weren't showing up

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we just tested it and it worked fine though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

velvet fog Dec 22, 2016, 6:38 AM

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I saw a new Race mode in Tencent Chinese

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But I don't sure It really exists or just leaked

compact isle Dec 22, 2016, 6:40 AM

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they're trialing it soon I think

velvet fog Dec 22, 2016, 6:42 AM

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It's named Path of Endurance

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There are many levels of it, limited time event, and boss arena

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This new Race will drop League specified Uniques every 5 Level

timid fable Dec 22, 2016, 6:59 AM

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like greater rifts? marauder

velvet fog Dec 22, 2016, 7:00 AM

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another Endless Ledge

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Tencent China is version 2.5.0 but Essence League

timid fable Dec 22, 2016, 7:00 AM

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ah

velvet fog Dec 22, 2016, 7:03 AM

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Fixed Map mods for each Path of Endurance level

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Tencent China had confirmed this new Race mod

random quarry Dec 23, 2016, 4:56 AM

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@chrome topaz do you have somewhere dedicated to bug reporting?

timid fable Dec 23, 2016, 4:28 PM

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@fickle yew there's a (fake?) listing of Eternals in temp sc showing up on your site

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not sure that it matters but kinda funny

fickle yew Dec 23, 2016, 4:29 PM

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Yeah, people can list stuff for Eternals through the currency notes.

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People also seem to like to do it for not-commonly shaped maps 😃

timid fable Dec 23, 2016, 4:30 PM

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aha

fickle yew Dec 23, 2016, 4:32 PM

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I might filter them at some point, but I'd rather get 5- and 6-link prices and big history graphs for uniques done first.

timid fable Dec 23, 2016, 4:34 PM

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ooh nice

dim ridge Dec 24, 2016, 12:50 AM

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there's no way to get retrieve stash information for a particular account, correct? there's just a real-time stream of everything?

mortal bone Dec 24, 2016, 1:19 AM

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you could technically get all the data then filter by an account

chrome topaz Dec 24, 2016, 2:56 PM

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@random quarry yes, use the forums (link at the bottom of poe.trade)

long stratus Dec 24, 2016, 7:55 PM

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Could someone explain to me why the poe trade makro takes so long to get a pricecheck done? (not complaining just curious because I was watching Ziggy's stream his was working much faster - is that the fault of my internet connection?)

toxic spoke Dec 25, 2016, 12:07 AM

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are there any front end web developers here interested in building something POE related? I've got a nearly fully functioning backend finished i'm just a garbage FE dev

waxen ridge Dec 25, 2016, 12:23 AM

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@toxic spoke send me a PM with some details and I'll have a look

toxic spoke Dec 25, 2016, 12:29 AM

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@waxen ridge done 😃

dim ridge Dec 25, 2016, 12:50 AM

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I've also been looking for a poe-related side project, so feel free to send some details this way if you'd like

prisma prism Dec 26, 2016, 5:33 PM

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does anyone know poetrade's devs?

outer jay Dec 26, 2016, 5:38 PM

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He's in here

prisma prism Dec 26, 2016, 5:56 PM

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i wonder if we can somehow remove unpriced items from premium currency/essence tab. because ppl mesaging me to buy thing i don't actually sell

torpid mesa Dec 26, 2016, 6:29 PM

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you can mark the price really high

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like giev the tab a price thats 1 mirror

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then everything defaults to that

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your individual prices should override that

prisma prism Dec 26, 2016, 6:36 PM

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but this is dumb, isn't it?

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flood with unreal offers...

torpid mesa Dec 26, 2016, 7:08 PM

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make a seperate tab that you put your priced items in and dont make your main tab public

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otherwise idk

prisma prism Dec 26, 2016, 7:54 PM

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but then the currency in stock will not be tracked

odd karma Dec 26, 2016, 11:23 PM

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Yo, I listed a characters items through procurement to sell equipped items while mapping but now I can't seem to delist the items and people keep wasting their time whispering me about items no longer for sale. Any1 got a way to delist em?

desert roost Dec 26, 2016, 11:24 PM

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The indexer may not have updated yet

odd karma Dec 26, 2016, 11:24 PM

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This was like four days ago

wind garden Dec 27, 2016, 1:20 AM

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how is it that I'm seeing stash updates for characters that aren't online?

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don't they have to be online to make an update to the stash?

compact isle Dec 27, 2016, 1:21 AM

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the online stuff only updates every minute

wind garden Dec 27, 2016, 1:22 AM

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how does poe.trade know that someone is online?

compact isle Dec 27, 2016, 1:23 AM

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it requests the list every minute I'd imagine

wind garden Dec 27, 2016, 1:23 AM

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is there an api for that now?

compact isle Dec 27, 2016, 1:23 AM

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a private one, yes

wind garden Dec 27, 2016, 1:23 AM

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private as in, you must be authenticated or as in it's only available upon special request?

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or both

compact isle Dec 27, 2016, 1:24 AM

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both of those

wind garden Dec 27, 2016, 1:24 AM

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got it

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i had asked poe.ninja why his prices were so off sometimes

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he said it was because he can't see who's online and so offline items will skew it for the rest

compact isle Dec 27, 2016, 1:25 AM

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I'd say it's safe to assume that if someone's stash updates it's because they were online at some point in the last minute (assuming you're at the top of the river)

woeful sphinx Dec 29, 2016, 11:25 PM

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Might be useful for other tool devs: I have converted mod and stat information into a Json format with PyPoE so I can use it for the offline planner later on:
https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE (files are in the data folder, documentation about them is in the docs folder)

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If there is interest or its necessary for me, I might add more converted stuff.

torpid mesa Dec 30, 2016, 2:47 AM

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@woeful sphinx neat

fickle yew Dec 30, 2016, 7:53 AM

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@woeful sphinx Thanks! Do mention if you do skill gems as well, those are still a pain for me, getting them through poeskilltree's wiki scraper.

woeful sphinx Dec 30, 2016, 12:20 PM

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@fickle yew The plan was to rewrite the gem stuff from wiki scraping to using the wiki's api. That's what I need the stat id translations for. But I might do that completely with the ggpk, will tell you if I do.

fickle yew Dec 30, 2016, 12:45 PM

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Great. Looking forward to that 😃

obtuse citrus Dec 30, 2016, 5:20 PM

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depending on what you need the ggpk might be easier

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wiki is formatted from the ggpk anyway, but it has a bunch of extra stuff that you may not need

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https://github.com/OmegaK2/PyPoE/blob/dev/PyPoE/cli/exporter/wiki/parsers/item.py#L416

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for example I put stats that dont change at any gem level in a extra section in the wiki to avoid confusion with people who might edit the templates manually

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but it's fairly straight foward as list of things per level in the data which is probably fine for the skill tree

woeful sphinx Dec 30, 2016, 5:27 PM

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Yeah, most of the work with the ggpk is finding out what I need and how to interpret it, then it's just converting PyPoE's objects to Json.

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What I've seen with the wiki, the stat ids and values for gems seem to be linked together weirdly.

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e.g. http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:Browse/Frenzy

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how should i know that the first value applies to the first two ids and the second value to the last two?

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(speaking about "Has stat ids" and "Has stat values")

obtuse citrus Dec 30, 2016, 5:46 PM

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oh ingore has stat ids and Has stat values

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multi value properties are broken

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if you have the same value twice values disppear

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best to go by the subobjects on the page

woeful sphinx Dec 30, 2016, 5:56 PM

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the subobjects seem to be empty for some stats (e.g. http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:Browse/Frenzy-23level0_stat1_physical_damage_%2B-25_per_frenzy_charge)

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thanks for both PyPoE and feeding that into the wiki, btw. all of this wouldn't be possible without your stuff

obtuse citrus Dec 30, 2016, 6:07 PM

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I need to look into why the subobjects dont seem to work

obtuse citrus Dec 30, 2016, 6:43 PM

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btw those empty subobjects is because SMW has some issues with handling the % sign

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if you look in the box it looked for

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Frenzy#level0_stat1_physical_damage_+-_per_frenzy_charge

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while the actual subobject is

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Frenzy#level0_stat1_physical_damage_+%_per_frenzy_charge

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but there was an issue with the subobjects never the less

woeful sphinx Dec 30, 2016, 6:55 PM

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ah, thanks

lapis drift Dec 30, 2016, 8:04 PM

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just to make it clear: the subobject exists and you can query it, but you simply can't view it using Special:Browse

obtuse citrus Dec 30, 2016, 8:22 PM

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You can view the subobject but you have to replace the - with % 😄

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SMW likes to be stupid sometimes

waxen musk Dec 30, 2016, 9:23 PM

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hey, would a tool that displays an overlay over your stash and hijacks clicks be allowed?

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basically it would display items in a different order and when you click smth it moves the mouse to the actual item location

desert roost Dec 30, 2016, 9:24 PM

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I do belive that's illegal.

cosmic saffron Dec 30, 2016, 9:25 PM

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how are you going to be retrieving item info? stash api?

waxen musk Dec 30, 2016, 9:26 PM

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i was thinking both api and screenshot

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to catch real time updates to some extent

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is that actually illegal if its 1 physical click = 1 ingame click?

desert roost Dec 30, 2016, 9:27 PM

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Overlay is against ToS I believe

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A few other people have tried making tools that used overlays, and Chris said they are bannable.

waxen musk Dec 30, 2016, 9:28 PM

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aw =\

desert roost Dec 30, 2016, 9:28 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/18hskm/tools_of_exile_exphour_calculator_ingame_clock/c8eyiqn/?st=ixcb6vyb&sh=21680506

Tools of Exile - Exp/hour Calculator, In-Game Clock, and more. •...

27 points and 70 comments so far on reddit

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For reference

waxen musk Dec 30, 2016, 9:29 PM

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ah well rip

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guess ill wait for an actual map tab then..

obtuse citrus Dec 30, 2016, 11:11 PM

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You can display a window over the game though..

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means every steam user should be banned

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if overlays would be illegal (which would be stupid)

outer jay Dec 30, 2016, 11:21 PM

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That's not how it works

torpid mesa Dec 30, 2016, 11:21 PM

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ggg already authorized steam

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they wont ban something they implemented

timid fable Dec 30, 2016, 11:23 PM

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that link dosen't say anything about overlays

desert roost Dec 30, 2016, 11:50 PM

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In-game clock and such were overlays and meant to be helpful to racers in keeping up with their position iirc

jaunty topaz Dec 30, 2016, 11:59 PM

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Overlays that hook into the game to read data, or manipulate data

timid fable Dec 31, 2016, 12:17 AM

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yes but the reply didn't say anything about overlays. He refered to "modifications" broadly

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and it's 3 years ago

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meanwhile TradeMacro is ok -- it creates windows that sit on top of the game

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Acquisition is ok -- third-party program, not a modification

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streaming overlays are ok

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Steam, other chat overlays including Discord, presumably ok

wind garden Dec 31, 2016, 1:28 AM

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oh sweet, @fickle yew is in here now. Welcome!

fickle yew Dec 31, 2016, 9:24 AM

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@wind garden thanks 😃

wind garden Dec 31, 2016, 9:26 AM

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if you scroll up you might see my conversation with Novyn earlier where I was asking how poe.trade know when people are online. he said its a private GGG API. Not sure if they would let you use it though. Wouldn't hurt to ask 😃

fickle yew Dec 31, 2016, 9:31 AM

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Yeah, I talked to him too. Still have to make sure that it would actually improve the rates. I'll consider requesting it for the next spree of development, right now I'm still a bit too busy actually playing Breach 😃

wind garden Dec 31, 2016, 9:38 AM

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nice

fickle yew Dec 31, 2016, 9:41 AM

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have a few features almost ready.. already collecting data for 5 and 6 link uniques and the big graphs for prices for items are almost ready too

wind garden Dec 31, 2016, 9:45 AM

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awesome, how do you determine price reliability? the green/yellow/red

fickle yew Dec 31, 2016, 10:02 AM

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number of people listing the item

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Considering if histograms showing the distribution of prices would be useful. I'm thinking it might show items that vary heavily in price based on rolls.

wind garden Jan 3, 2017, 6:04 PM

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mmm poe.trade complaints on the front page of reddit, just another day....

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does GGG have anything new coming soon regarding trade? or do we not know/can't say?

desert roost Jan 3, 2017, 6:06 PM

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Can't say.

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/don't know

wind garden Jan 3, 2017, 11:37 PM

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my fav comment on that reddit thread was people conspiracy theorizing that xyz is employed by GGG on the down-low because he doesn't live in NZ

chrome topaz Jan 5, 2017, 1:22 PM

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link?

fickle yew Jan 5, 2017, 1:26 PM

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I'm guessing it was this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5ls60a/ggg_please_work_with_xyz_to_fix_your_api_andor/

obtuse citrus Jan 5, 2017, 2:32 PM

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those threads are usually always full of crap anyways

warm mulch Jan 5, 2017, 8:31 PM

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@fickle yew are you poeninja dev? I'd like to know if gem prices would be possible 20/20qual etc

fickle yew Jan 5, 2017, 8:52 PM

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@warm mulch I am. I've been considering gem prices, but there are a lot of possibilities.. 20/20, 20 non-corrupted, 20 corrupted, 21, 21/20 ... + Empower, Enhance, Enlighten etc.

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Haven't quite found a way to cut it that I was happy with yet.

fickle yew Jan 5, 2017, 9:21 PM

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@compact isle Is there any way to link directly to a character on the character page? Maybe an extra query string or something? For instance, if I wanted to link to the character "Daltran" on https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/darkmage67/characters ?

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Looks like it's picking the last active character based on some JavaScript set in the page.

waxen ridge Jan 5, 2017, 10:14 PM

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I've not found a way to link direct to a character yet. Was thinking of scraping and providing my own funcionality

fickle yew Jan 5, 2017, 10:15 PM

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Your own functionality?

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Replicating the passive tree and all seems a good deal of work 😃

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But I guess that part could just be a link.

waxen ridge Jan 5, 2017, 10:24 PM

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Yeah probably is reasonably huge to replicate but it's fun to learn and try

fickle yew Jan 5, 2017, 10:25 PM

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Yeah 😃

torpid mesa Jan 5, 2017, 10:34 PM

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with pypoe installed on windows [full] where is pypoe_ui so i can run it

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found it, windows search was bein dumb

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:| runs but does nothing no error message in cmd

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script file in there errors can share if anyone knows anything about it

lapis drift Jan 5, 2017, 10:41 PM

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sure share it

torpid mesa Jan 5, 2017, 10:41 PM

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C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Python34\Scripts\pypoe_ui-script.pyw
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Python34\Scripts\pypoe_ui-script.pyw", line 9, in <module>
load_entry_point('PyPoE==1.0.0a0', 'gui_scripts', 'pypoe_ui')()
TypeError: main() missing 1 required positional argument: 'maincls'

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def main(maincls, *args, **kwargs): in source. icic

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well sort of

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dunno what to give it

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PyPoE\ui\__init__ has that line

chrome topaz Jan 5, 2017, 10:43 PM

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https://github.com/OmegaK2/PyPoE/blob/dev/PyPoE/ui/__init__.py

lapis drift Jan 5, 2017, 10:43 PM

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my bet is some library is missing

torpid mesa Jan 5, 2017, 10:44 PM

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thats different from the version i have dang it

chrome topaz Jan 5, 2017, 10:44 PM

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I don't see any obvious bugs on github so try updating

torpid mesa Jan 5, 2017, 10:46 PM

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issue was somehow i had a shit version

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i used the zip on github before i thought

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did git clone this time

compact isle Jan 5, 2017, 10:59 PM

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@fickle yew you can pass in a character to see using ?characterName= at the end

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https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/darkmage67/characters?characterName=Daltran for example

cosmic saffron Jan 5, 2017, 11:10 PM

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seems to work

torpid mesa Jan 5, 2017, 11:16 PM

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neat

fickle yew Jan 6, 2017, 6:25 AM

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Great!

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@compact isle Thanks!

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 3:02 AM

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why don't people understand that there will never be an auction house in PoE?

torpid mesa Jan 9, 2017, 4:05 AM

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different people think auction house means different things

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also new members of the community arnt aware of how its been done to death

tight igloo Jan 9, 2017, 8:47 AM

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"Fixed a bug where upgrading Essences in the Essences Tab would sometimes fail if you had the Nature's Boon Ascendancy skill."

I seriously wonder what kind of bug was that. How are they even connected...

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 9:26 AM

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As far as I'm concerned, AH means automatic completion of sales and items are held in escrow.

lapis drift Jan 9, 2017, 9:37 AM

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to me AH means bids

void wolf Jan 9, 2017, 10:45 AM

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so in @wind garden's terms steam market is also kinda AH am I right?

chrome topaz Jan 9, 2017, 2:00 PM

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well they did add an "ah" to poe china

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 3:51 PM

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no just market, steam market

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was the china ah developed by ggg?

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Think that was a special agreement either way

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 4:21 PM

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@chrome topaz what trade improvement would you like to see? Is there something you think would satisfy the majority of players?

chrome topaz Jan 9, 2017, 4:44 PM

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no, it's impossible

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I would like to see proper online status of all players with afk and dnd

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 5:35 PM

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What about all the price fixing though?

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I think the two biggest complaints are AFK and price fixing

ionic night Jan 9, 2017, 5:49 PM

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how are you going to prevent someone from buying all instances of an object and relisting for higher?

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 5:51 PM

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you don't, that's not price fixing and not a problem

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supply and demand will balance out any such attempts over time

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:45 PM

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yup, exactly

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i can buy all of the HoWAs listed at 10c and relist them at 20c. I might sell a few for 20c, but soon someone else will list it at 15c and then 10c. The price will fall back down and I'll be stuck with a bunch of HoWAs.

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:46 PM

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The worst part is there is no DnD that allows interacting with others, such as a "not-trading atm"

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It's more of my annoyance with GGG and not xyz

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:47 PM

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What I'd like to see is a way to CoD items to people. Like a mail system.

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:48 PM

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Like WoW or FFXIV

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I can see that too but it would require bots and GGG has a firm stance on that

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They themselves would have to implement

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:49 PM

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not talking about 3rd party

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GGG would definitely have to implement it

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I was just talking about what the ideal solution is, GGG or otherwise

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:49 PM

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The only issue is that it can't be half done, I know sometimes I under or over price not knowingly but accidentally

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Preventing sniper or mistakes like that would be hard

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 6:50 PM

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CoD mail is a great way to hold items hostage

ionic night Jan 9, 2017, 6:50 PM

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could do a Master for it, for all it matters, asa little limited inventory shopkeep

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:50 PM

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unless you don't actually send the item

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you send an offer to buy the item

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:50 PM

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Marketplace board is usually better than CoD

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Where you put the item up

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:50 PM

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if you send 3 offers, the first person to accept it gets it

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:50 PM

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and people purchase directly

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:51 PM

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essentially the same thing

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I'd be fine with either

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:51 PM

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Somewhat, but less player interaction in the second

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:51 PM

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i like the idea of "mailed" offers

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right click on an item and choose 'View Offers"

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:51 PM

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I argue with myself on it, I would like the implementation but at the same time I really enjoy the current one

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:52 PM

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can reject or accept them

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:52 PM

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I hate AFK people and overpricing, but I enjoy it at the same time

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It's like being in the mid-ages where I am forced to barter and deal with annoyances

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I'm okay with it

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:53 PM

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I'd like GGG to have an ingame database like poe.trade that lists items and lets you search for them. But instead of messaging the person with "I'd like to buy X for Y", you have a button "make offer" that will get sent directly to the seller where they can accept or reject.

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if they're away at the time, it'll wait until they can confirm it later

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:53 PM

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Yeah, that's a little better

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:54 PM

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buyer would have to confirm one more time that they still want to buy it once the offer is accepted

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:54 PM

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That's the BDO (they changed it) way

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 6:54 PM

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that way if they make multiple offers on different sellers, they don't end up with duplicates

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but see, that's clearly not an auction house

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but it is more automated than what we have now

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however, doesn't prevent price fixing

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someone could still reject every offer

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:56 PM

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I want GGG to release an item api

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 6:56 PM

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tbh it's a solved problem. Not perfect solutions of course, but there are so many solutions. I had to tackle trading in MUDs 20 years ago.

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GGG are just idealists and not willing to pick a solution and go with it, they have to find the "perfect" solution and reinvent the wheel at every step

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:56 PM

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Just an api for all the items

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 6:57 PM

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all our suggestions are known solutions, some used in multiple successful games

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they have heard it all before

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but don't want to listen, they want to find their own solution

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 6:57 PM

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I don't see the issue, I really enjoy their decisions so far

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 6:57 PM

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they've said so about other parts of their process

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well yes, I too enjoy the product of their decisions so far

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just wish they could maybe wing it for once and iterate through many small changes than trying to find one big change that will magically solve everything

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 7:04 PM

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I can't imagine they're not working on something already. I think they've just been burned by communicating what they're working on before they know it'll work how they want. Then the public gets up in arms about why it isn't done yet.

chrome topaz Jan 9, 2017, 7:04 PM

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"PoE tool development discussion"

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 7:04 PM

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I think it's relevant

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 7:05 PM

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@chrome topaz can we please have accesskeys on the main poe.trade form for submit/reset?

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suggested on your thread before 😦

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also was ignored the first two times 🙂 but drama and complaining about delays will get you a response from xyz

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 7:12 PM

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What are you asking for? Some kind of API?

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 7:12 PM

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no, HTML accesskeys

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will take all of 5 seconds to implement. I provided example code when I suggested it the first two times even

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 7:16 PM

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Ah i see

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 7:19 PM

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will improve usability on keyboard for actual human users

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doesn't aid any baddies who can automate things anyway

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I guess the drawback is adding like 30 bytes uncompressed to every page

wind garden Jan 9, 2017, 7:21 PM

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I'm sure that's why he hasn't done it 😛

chrome topaz Jan 9, 2017, 8:05 PM

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it's probably got buried under the complaints

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there's no need to be so aggressive

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 8:11 PM

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sorry, wasn't trying to be aggressive

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you respond to stuff that is unrelated to tool development here if you're interested

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so no need to tell us what this channel is for

chrome topaz Jan 9, 2017, 8:17 PM

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I've added your change now

timid fable Jan 9, 2017, 8:18 PM

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well thanks, appreciate it

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me and the 3 other people who still browse with keyboards 😃

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 8:48 PM

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@compact isle any idea if there is a plan for an API for items?

chrome topaz Jan 9, 2017, 9:35 PM

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what do you mean by this?

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 9:36 PM

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API for item data

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Base item data

woeful sphinx Jan 9, 2017, 9:41 PM

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you can get that out of the ggpk, so i doubt there'll ever be an api for it

fickle yew Jan 9, 2017, 9:41 PM

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You can derrive it from the trade api.. I do.

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 9:41 PM

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That's why I asked @compact isle whether they will make one, because it's obvious that data exists

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It would be useful

lapis drift Jan 9, 2017, 9:42 PM

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you can use the wiki api

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 9:42 PM

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I want an official api

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I could easily make my own

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I already have, but I would prefer to have an official one

woeful sphinx Jan 9, 2017, 9:44 PM

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that would basically be them providing an api to their ggpk file

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 9:44 PM

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it's not a large ask, riot has one

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It's useful for building third-party apps

fickle yew Jan 9, 2017, 9:46 PM

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it would be nice if they expanded the xml part of the official website yeah 😃

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would make it a lot easier

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 9:47 PM

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xml part of the site?

cosmic saffron Jan 9, 2017, 10:08 PM

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like the ones here? https://www.pathofexile.com/item-data

Path of Exile

Item Data - Path of Exile

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

fickle yew Jan 9, 2017, 10:22 PM

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yep

gritty olive Jan 9, 2017, 10:56 PM

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ah the tables

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Yeah, wish they had an api

compact isle Jan 9, 2017, 11:41 PM

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I do know that we plan to overhaul the data in the tables at some point

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but there most likely isn't going to be an api for uniques / mods any time soon

gritty olive Jan 10, 2017, 12:53 AM

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That sucks

velvet fog Jan 10, 2017, 1:43 AM

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What table you need?

gritty olive Jan 10, 2017, 2:44 AM

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need< is kind of a strong word but an api for items in general would be nice

timid fable Jan 10, 2017, 2:56 AM

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what would be the benefit of running an API continuously instead of providing the whole data set for download in say xml or json?

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item data is completely static between patches

chilly night Jan 10, 2017, 11:13 AM

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Someone is used to API?

gritty olive Jan 10, 2017, 6:12 PM

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API prevents having to generate the content yourself, easy consumption, consolidated way of doing it, and ensures that the least amount of issues occur

velvet fog Jan 11, 2017, 1:47 AM

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There are many test items inside Data/ files, it's hard to provide API by 3rd party

gritty olive Jan 11, 2017, 2:25 AM

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not really

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like I said, I already have an API for my personal use

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It would be better to have an official one though for the reasons listed above

torpid mesa Jan 11, 2017, 2:26 AM

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an xml/json file with all the info on a static part of the poe website would be much easier for them to implement and just as good

gritty olive Jan 11, 2017, 2:28 AM

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It would get me at least 50% of the way to where I need to be, but it is a start

torpid mesa Jan 11, 2017, 2:31 AM

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what info needs to be dynamic?

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and live updated

gritty olive Jan 11, 2017, 2:32 AM

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Oh, the site is just missing a portion of items

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Is what I meant

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I took your statement literal rather than abstract notion of static items

torpid mesa Jan 11, 2017, 2:32 AM

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oic

velvet fog Jan 11, 2017, 2:33 AM

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@gritty olive: what site/app are you maintaining?

gritty olive Jan 11, 2017, 2:34 AM

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I have stealth sites being built, but I recently helped build https://poe.fyi

velvet fog Jan 11, 2017, 2:53 AM

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I had my own API server too

pure ocean Jan 11, 2017, 8:41 PM

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I'm building a tool that takes your current gear, compares it to available gear on poe.trade, and tells you if there's anything better within certain parameters. (Price, for example, or weighted towards certain stats.) I have a prototype working, but it currently requires that you have your Profile open in the background. POE's current API only seems to allow your Stash to be queried, not equipped gear. Thus, I need the Profile open so I can snag the equipment info directly from the HTML. 😦 This makes me a sad panda. Is there a way anyone knows of to query equiped gear via POE's current API?

floral dawn Jan 11, 2017, 8:48 PM

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@pure ocean Use get-items instead of get-stash-items: https://www.pathofexile.com/character-window/get-items?accountName=<accountname>&character=<charactername>

desert needle Jan 11, 2017, 8:49 PM

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though you still have to be logged in if the account is private

pure ocean Jan 11, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Thank you! That's perfect!

wind garden Jan 12, 2017, 5:41 AM

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wow that's sweet

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 8:10 AM

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I'm curious, das poe.trade have an public api - especially for the currency?

chrome topaz Jan 16, 2017, 9:07 AM

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no, not even a private api

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 9:40 AM

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😦

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how does a site like poe.ninja get the data? obviously they get it from your site 😄

fickle yew Jan 16, 2017, 9:55 AM

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No. poe.ninja consumes GGG's public trade api to get it's data.

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 9:55 AM

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hmm, good to know - thanks!

fickle yew Jan 16, 2017, 9:57 AM

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http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Public_stash_tab_API

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 9:59 AM

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sadly, I cannot build the tool with the data from the public api 😦

desert needle Jan 16, 2017, 3:11 PM

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I think I read that poe.ninja also scrapes poe.trade to get offers outside the stash api stuff

fickle yew Jan 16, 2017, 3:13 PM

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It doesn't. (I'm the dev)

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The only interaction poe.ninja has with poe.trade is links to trades.

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Also thanks @desert needle! I used a lot of the information / posts you wrote while building ninja.

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 3:30 PM

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ah nice - awesome site you built there 😃

timid fable Jan 16, 2017, 3:30 PM

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@fickle yew is it possible to make the linked searches have "Normalize quality" on by default?

fickle yew Jan 16, 2017, 3:31 PM

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Yes

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That's a good point 😃

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I also need to switch to base item search for maps etc.

timid fable Jan 16, 2017, 3:31 PM

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cool, i thought you used to do it but not sure if something changed

fickle yew Jan 16, 2017, 3:32 PM

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I don't think I did, the search is rather simple.

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Hoping to find a bit more time for more features soon 😃

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 3:34 PM

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is it open source? maybe we can contribute 😄

fickle yew Jan 16, 2017, 3:35 PM

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It's not.

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Would take quite an effort of scrubbing history etc to make it open. Plus there's a lot of unrelated code in that repo

wary quarry Jan 16, 2017, 3:37 PM

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kk

desert needle Jan 16, 2017, 4:49 PM

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oh word sorry! 😄

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 10:32 PM

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@fickle yew Gem extraction done: https://github.com/brather1ng/RePoE, see gem.json and gem_tooltips.json (there might be bugs, didn't get use it myself yet)

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 10:44 PM

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@woeful sphinx Nice! How are you supposed to map the stats to the per_level values?

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Like Arc level 1 is: ```
"per_level": {
"1": {
"mana_cost": 9,
"required_level": 12,
"stat_requirements": {
"int": 0
},
"stats": [
{
"value": 2
},
{
"value": 35
},
null,
{
"value": 2
}
]
},

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 10:44 PM

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you have to merge static and per_level, see the .md for that

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 10:44 PM

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But I can't really find that they are min damage, max damage and chains

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 10:45 PM

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would have been huge otherwise

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merge static and per_level, sry

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 10:46 PM

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Ah static is below level 30

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That's why I didn't notice 😃

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 10:47 PM

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yeah, haven't found anything to force an order (other than alphabetic)

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 10:47 PM

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Looks like the gem_tooltips.json would be more appropriate for what I need actually.

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Since it's closer to the ingame data.

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 10:49 PM

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might need a mix of them, gems is the raw data, gem_tooltips is reproducing the in-game tooltips

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 10:49 PM

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Right

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Thanks, maybe I can replace my wiki data code then 😃

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Will you be adding a guide to running RePoE in the readme?

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 10:59 PM

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Sure, the code there only produces the jsons though

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 11:00 PM

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Yup 😃

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 11:03 PM

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actually, I have no idea, the IDE seems to do more than i know, lol

fickle yew Jan 17, 2017, 11:04 PM

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Hehe.

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Anyway, I'm off to bed. Thanks for the data.

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You should post on pathofexiledev

woeful sphinx Jan 17, 2017, 11:05 PM

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night

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will do that once it's a bit more fleshed out, which it might actually be now

velvet fog Jan 18, 2017, 3:00 AM

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PyPoe have gem extract code

uneven meteor Jan 18, 2017, 2:13 PM

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I was thinking about using the public stashtab api to generate some info about my items throughout the league, what language would be the best to write that kind of stuff in? It doesn't need to be fast. I was thinking Python for ease of use but want to know what other people would use for small projects like these.

fickle yew Jan 18, 2017, 2:19 PM

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I'd go with the language you're most comfortable working in.

uneven meteor Jan 18, 2017, 2:19 PM

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which would be Rust

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but that really seems like overkill

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and i dont mind learning something new

fickle yew Jan 18, 2017, 2:19 PM

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Well, depends if the goal is to actually get something working or experimenting with a new language 😃

uneven meteor Jan 18, 2017, 2:20 PM

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A little bit of both

wary quarry Jan 18, 2017, 2:35 PM

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my latest project was in php - more precise the laravel framework

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just to get a website

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usually I'm a java guy 😄

uneven meteor Jan 19, 2017, 12:20 AM

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is there anyway to get a stash tab for a specific person (if its public)?

ornate spade Jan 19, 2017, 12:38 AM

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you mean a gift?

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you could form a guild with that person and let him use the guild stash as space

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wait, what am i doing in tool dev

timid fable Jan 19, 2017, 12:43 AM

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@uneven meteor don't think so, the only method I know requires valid session id of the owner of the stash

mortal bone Jan 19, 2017, 12:44 AM

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you would have to run through all of the stash tabs and pull out their account name

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or character name

uneven meteor Jan 19, 2017, 12:47 AM

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@mortal bone thats what im doing right now

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but its really slow cause I don't know the most recent stash update

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And I don't really care about historical data

mortal bone Jan 19, 2017, 12:48 AM

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39361991-42078252-39034728-45563921-42479092

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can try that change id

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http://poe.ninja/stats

uneven meteor Jan 19, 2017, 12:50 AM

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Cool

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I'll try that see if I get any info

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oh shit it worked

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thanks emmit

mortal bone Jan 19, 2017, 12:54 AM

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yea

uneven meteor Jan 19, 2017, 5:39 AM

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there is no timing data in the stashtab api correct?

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the only timing data is when you read any particular update

chrome topaz Jan 19, 2017, 6:46 AM

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there's no historic data in stash tab api

waxen musk Jan 19, 2017, 1:36 PM

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oh was about to ask, it only gives the newly updated tabs right?

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i want to index enchant prices since poe.ninja doesnt do those 😦

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also how much bandwidth would it use if i run the indexing from my local pc?

wind garden Jan 19, 2017, 6:16 PM

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lol

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dangit, i hate it when i respond to messages i read that are several pages back >.>

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makes me look stupid

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@uneven meteor I have some sample code I wrote in C# which is pretty easy to understand, you could use it as a starting point to search for a specific person's stash tab updates. It handles the stash API updating and converting the JSON into a easily usable class structure.

gritty olive Jan 19, 2017, 7:04 PM

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@chrome topaz how do you determine online status, is that a private API?

uneven meteor Jan 19, 2017, 7:20 PM

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@wind garden i actually got stuff working for what i wanted to do

wind garden Jan 19, 2017, 8:31 PM

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@gritty olive yes it is

gritty olive Jan 19, 2017, 8:32 PM

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@compact isle who do I talk to for usage of the private API

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I have an interest in building something and that feature would benefit it greatly

wind garden Jan 19, 2017, 8:32 PM

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i'm not sure if they give access out

gritty olive Jan 19, 2017, 8:33 PM

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I'll figure that out

wind garden Jan 19, 2017, 8:35 PM

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if they do, @fickle yew should request it so his prices can be more accurate

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what tool are you working on anyways?

gritty olive Jan 19, 2017, 8:45 PM

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Will discuss it once I flesh out portions of it, some parts are still in the air

chrome topaz Jan 20, 2017, 12:36 AM

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try emailing support@, they should be able to redirect you to a developer

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or maybe contact@

compact isle Jan 20, 2017, 2:40 AM

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^ both of those will work, I'm away from the office at the moment but those emails will make sure it goes to the right people

uneven meteor Jan 20, 2017, 6:10 AM

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so i built a python script

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that keeps track of the changes in my currency tab

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over time

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now i have a 31kb json file

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and i should probably figure out a way to display its info

mellow ferry Jan 22, 2017, 5:41 AM

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https://www.pathofexile.com/character-window/get-stash-items?accountName=xiaoy312&tabIndex=1&league=tmpstandard&tabs=1
Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this api?

waxen ridge Jan 22, 2017, 8:01 AM

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There is no league tmpstandard @mellow ferry and you probably have to be logged into the website for the API call to work.

mellow ferry Jan 22, 2017, 8:02 AM

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I'm logged in

waxen ridge Jan 22, 2017, 8:03 AM

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I changed tmpstandard to Breach

mellow ferry Jan 22, 2017, 8:05 AM

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thanks that worked

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do you know what tabs param is for?

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number of tabs to pull starting from tabIndex?

waxen ridge Jan 22, 2017, 8:06 AM

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i went to tabs=2 and it appears to show me what's in my hideout decorations stash

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Same with tabs=0

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Same with tabs=99 lol

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Same with tabs=1330130 weird API is weird

mellow ferry Jan 22, 2017, 8:08 AM

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yeah it is hard to use them when there is no documentation...

waxen ridge Jan 22, 2017, 8:08 AM

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be helpful if it was self documenting, like, you know, github's api

mellow ferry Jan 22, 2017, 8:10 AM

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yeah

cosmic saffron Jan 22, 2017, 8:44 AM

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iterate through tabIndex instead

mellow ferry Jan 22, 2017, 9:05 AM

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actually i just need info from a single tab

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now i just need an algorithm to find the right combinason of skill gems to produce 40% quality lol

chrome topaz Jan 22, 2017, 9:52 PM

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tabs=1 means it returns list of tabs

wind garden Jan 24, 2017, 2:34 AM

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what's with all the people showing as online on poe.trade but being offline?

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is the online players api not working?

floral dawn Jan 24, 2017, 3:28 AM

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Seems like it's updating fine

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 5:22 AM

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With the introduction of new 'currency' are we going to see more options for buyout in the future? For example I want to sell uniques for splinters but there isn't an option in the public stash tab. I don't think there is one on poe.trade either.

cosmic saffron Jan 24, 2017, 5:38 AM

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http://currency.poe.trade/tags

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 6:00 AM

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Oh, thanks. 😄

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 6:51 AM

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I tried this and then searched up an item and it doesn't show the b/o 😦

wind garden Jan 24, 2017, 7:27 AM

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my gosh, i've been looking for this for forever

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why couldn't i find it before

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maybe it didn't exist until recently

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 8:54 AM

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@wind garden Did you get it to work?

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Well, I found this link in poe.trade so I don't think it's been updated for other types of currency. http://poe.trade/html/tags.html

cosmic saffron Jan 24, 2017, 9:02 AM

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it wouldn't be because you literally can't search for any other types of currency

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the currency tags works for selling/buying sets and splinters just fine

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 9:06 AM

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I'm trying to sell my non-currency items for splinters. For example a Map for a splinter or a unique/rare item for a splinter. I'm not trying to buy splinters with chaos or alchemy or sell currency for splinters.

timid fable Jan 24, 2017, 9:07 AM

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poe.trade and currency.poe.trade are separate

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not all the tags supported on currency are supported for regular trade

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 9:07 AM

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Yeah, I realized this after I did a little more digging.

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Maybe my original question was phrased confusingly.

timid fable Jan 24, 2017, 9:08 AM

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yeah so I don't think you can list items for sale for splinters

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 9:08 AM

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A shame

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It'd cut out the 'middle man'

timid fable Jan 24, 2017, 9:08 AM

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only whatever is listed in the dropdown in premium tabs

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seems like a deliberate choice that they want trade to be multilayered like
items <> main currency <> fragments/other

dapper notch Jan 24, 2017, 9:11 AM

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Yeah, I can respect it. I just like shortcuts 😃

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 12:53 AM

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stashi.org will release a 10min vlog sometime later today about our progress and challenges trying to fix the rare affix pricing problem

mortal bone Jan 26, 2017, 1:04 AM

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Is this the system that is being done as the school project? Or something new @normal idol

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 1:06 AM

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@mortal bone The project you're talking about is somewhat different. Paul (if that is the person I think you mean) is taking a close look at a massive amount of data on standard. We're focusing on temp leagues.

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The idea is we get a continual reset so we can get an idea of what is in demand in the temps by looking at the ladder affixes in use in conjunction with other pointers.

mortal bone Jan 26, 2017, 1:09 AM

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Ah, yeah. The ideas are in a similar vein. It is a pretty cool idea. How many people are working with you on this?

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 2:46 AM

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Paul and I have teamed up and there are other testers from my guild helping to ensure the demand valuations make sense. He's tackling the problem his way and stashi.org is doing it our way.

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We intend to compare and contrast our methods so that they can work as blind and double blind controls for antibias

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 3:08 AM

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Stashi.org vlog#1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2BcDHltkTA

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still processing to 1080p

pulsar moat Jan 26, 2017, 3:12 AM

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is there supposed to be sound?
edit: yeah there is

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 3:13 AM

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yes

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there is

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😄 interested in hearing any feedback

pulsar moat Jan 26, 2017, 3:14 AM

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Would you consider pasting the transcript to a pastebin and putting in the description?

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 3:14 AM

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Sure!

pulsar moat Jan 26, 2017, 3:15 AM

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Great thanks. The Microsoft sam voice has been ruined for me too many times, plus reading is faster

normal idol Jan 26, 2017, 3:18 AM

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I could have easily voiced it my self but was trying out the new Adobe Acrobat t2s so I could be lazy

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Here is the transcript http://pastebin.com/d7DbiYpd

dusky siren Jan 26, 2017, 7:50 AM

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Hey, does anybody know if there is a way to get a character's current zone (/whois) from outside of the game?

chrome topaz Jan 26, 2017, 2:45 PM

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there is no way

dapper notch Jan 26, 2017, 8:15 PM

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So, is stashi a site that will try to fix the whole every unique is 1 alc problem?

timid fable Jan 26, 2017, 10:08 PM

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unique prices are purely a function of supply and demand -- if nobody uses a unique because its shit then its price will go down since the supply keeps increasing. you can't put out a valuation that says this unique should be X price based on its stats if literally nobody wants it

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and anyway the transcript only mentions rares and rare affixes and doesn't mention uniques at all @dapper notch

wind garden Jan 27, 2017, 1:01 AM

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why doesn't poe log you out after extended afk?

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Would help with the trade issue

torpid mesa Jan 27, 2017, 1:02 AM

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spectres

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open maps

dusky siren Jan 27, 2017, 3:21 AM

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@chrome topaz I've found a way to at least get my own zone at least

pulsar moat Jan 27, 2017, 3:28 AM

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@dusky siren by parsing the logs ?

dusky siren Jan 27, 2017, 3:34 AM

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ya

wind garden Jan 27, 2017, 6:09 AM

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what the heck, PoE is making the menus in my app lagg

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if i close PoE, they're fine

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open PoE, they're all slow and flickery

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i've tried DX9 and DX11

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woh

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vsync fixed it

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never actually had vsync improve something before

weak wyvern Jan 27, 2017, 6:28 AM

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syncing your fps to monitor

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hm

dapper notch Jan 27, 2017, 7:55 AM

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@timid fable yeah i realized that afterwards it was mainly talking about rares. i dont really id rares and when i do i only notice the crappy ones so i guess it wouldnt matter to me.

normal idol Jan 27, 2017, 9:43 PM

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#stashi We will still be looking at uniques to try and give you an idea of how good your uniques are (with enchants and gg rolls) but it's nowhere near as detailed as the rare item problem that has a vast number of possible combinations of affixes to try and understand and evaluate.

dapper notch Jan 28, 2017, 5:03 AM

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Yeah, I get it. I'm still looking forward to Stashi. I always had a lack of knowledge when it came to rares. Hoping this will help people like me understand the market better. I have been playing since Domination/Nemesis and I miss the old days. When finding a unique was actually exciting.

undone hull Jan 28, 2017, 11:06 AM

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is therea release for stashi now?

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i started about half way through essence league and i use poetrade macro and have a good idea of what sells, but any other tools are always appeciated

normal idol Jan 29, 2017, 5:17 AM

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@undone hull not yet still in early design phases but describing our process early to underscore our #transparency #opensource etc

candid ridge Jan 29, 2017, 6:34 AM

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i do ux/ui for a living if you need help @normal idol

normal idol Jan 29, 2017, 7:23 AM

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@candid ridge thx sent you an inv to our discord

wind garden Jan 29, 2017, 8:42 PM

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@candid ridge what language you use?

candid ridge Jan 29, 2017, 10:40 PM

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oh

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i'm a designer

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sorry i should have specified

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ux/ui designer

obtuse citrus Jan 30, 2017, 4:03 AM

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ux/ui is not a language

gritty olive Jan 31, 2017, 2:28 AM

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In a way it is

wind garden Jan 31, 2017, 4:44 AM

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depends what you consider UX/UI design. You could specialize in WPF without doing too much backend coding yourself

timid fable Jan 31, 2017, 9:34 AM

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@velvet fog the footer on your site is showing Unix epoch as last updated date 🐛

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:02 PM

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Is there any way to get unique items out of the ggpk?

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:14 PM

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nope, they are on server-side only, like all other items are

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:16 PM

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base items and gems aren't

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but seems like the wiki does a good job at reconstructing that, mod ids and stuff are in there

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:17 PM

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yes, gems are normal (base) items

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well we've spent a lot of time mapping mods to unique items

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:18 PM

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nice

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:26 PM

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note that the wiki is not reliable enough to build other tools upon it

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on the other hand there is not better source

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:28 PM

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yeah, I don't really have a choice

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:29 PM

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do you want to add it to repoe?

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:30 PM

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nah, would have done that when i could have gotten it out of the ggpk

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i want to add unique crafting to PoESkillTree

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:31 PM

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what is it?

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:31 PM

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the offline skill tree planner

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:32 PM

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i know what the PoESkillTree is 😄

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what do you mean by "unique crafting"?

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:32 PM

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oh

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crafting unique items, you can only craft only craft rares atm

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:40 PM

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so there is a build planner, and you are going to add unique items to it

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cool

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:41 PM

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yes

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though the build planner is admittedly not really good or up to date atm

lapis drift Feb 1, 2017, 10:42 PM

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well there are too many posibilities in the game and developing a build planner is a huge pain in the ass 😄

woeful sphinx Feb 1, 2017, 10:43 PM

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yep, what we currently have is not easy to maintain. so it was mostly left alone.

mortal bone Feb 1, 2017, 10:51 PM

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Yeah, it honestly just needs a complete rewrite because some of the components are too integrated

velvet fog Feb 2, 2017, 8:09 AM

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@cardo: thanks, it should be v2.5.2.4 now

obtuse citrus Feb 2, 2017, 11:06 AM

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Maybe if we bother GGG enough they'll eventually give us a list of unique items 😦

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but yeah you can use the wiki if you want for those, there is a post on the community portal thats details a bit on how to use the wiki API to get some of that stuff as json

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https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki_talk:Community_portal#Item_template_v2:_Updating_unique_items

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look at ha107642's reply there ... at some point I should properly make this into a guide on the wiki

woeful sphinx Feb 2, 2017, 11:42 AM

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I'm already loading base items from the wiki API, getting uniques should be pretty similar. So that shouldn't be a problem.

obtuse citrus Feb 2, 2017, 11:44 AM

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It's about the same yea

woeful sphinx Feb 2, 2017, 11:44 AM

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they have the data, they could just release the relevant .dat file without the stuff we are not meant to see

obtuse citrus Feb 2, 2017, 11:45 AM

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it seems like they can't afford the extra work currently for that

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at least when I asked about this last time

velvet fog Feb 3, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Is there a better way to parse item stats to Stats.dat's ID?

gritty olive Feb 3, 2017, 5:26 AM

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Augh, working on new design for poe.fyi and I want to post it but I know I should wait haha

mortal bone Feb 3, 2017, 5:33 AM

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you can just post it here lol

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not many people 😛

velvet fog Feb 3, 2017, 5:49 AM

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what's new feature?

velvet fog Feb 3, 2017, 6:22 AM

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@obtuse citrus How to get a gem use mana or mana reserved from .dat?

velvet fog Feb 3, 2017, 12:03 PM

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@obtuse citrus : ActiveSkills.dat's SpellTotemId is correct, because all null dat files are the same. value range from 1 to row_size+1, all row_size+1 equals 0

wind garden Feb 3, 2017, 7:36 PM

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3 hours later....Visual Studio finishes installing

mortal bone Feb 3, 2017, 8:09 PM

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you install all the packages? lol

wind garden Feb 3, 2017, 8:37 PM

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no, i exagerated a bit

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but it's slow no matter what you do

gritty olive Feb 4, 2017, 6:57 AM

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Alright I think I'm at a point where I can start giving a preview

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http://i.imgur.com/MlXsPzW.png

mortal bone Feb 4, 2017, 7:12 AM

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nice, I like that a lot more

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You can easily tell where the gems start/end

gritty olive Feb 4, 2017, 8:00 AM

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Thanks @mortal bone I think so as well

obtuse citrus Feb 4, 2017, 8:31 AM

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@chaunsing maybe from the reference to activeskilltypes, currently its done manually for the wiki at least

velvet fog Feb 4, 2017, 11:21 AM

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@obtuse citrus : I can't find it too, thanks.

pale ocean Feb 4, 2017, 11:20 PM

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from the json, where can I see the node x/y locations on the tree?

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nvm found it

desert needle Feb 7, 2017, 6:30 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5slqin/is_there_a_currency_tracker/ the excessive complexity of the proposed solutions in this thread is mind blowing

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or GGG's lack of documentation is mind blowing

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it's like everyone forgot there's already an API that lets you see your own stash tabs and inventories

pulsar moat Feb 7, 2017, 6:47 PM

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What about acquisition... It counts your total exalts given a set of ratios

torpid mesa Feb 7, 2017, 6:47 PM

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lol at least a few guys had the idea to just use aqusition

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yeah

pulsar moat Feb 7, 2017, 6:47 PM

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This already exists

torpid mesa Feb 7, 2017, 6:47 PM

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pmuch

desert needle Feb 7, 2017, 6:56 PM

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yeah I think they just want to take that to a level of like graphing it per hour or something, which is a cool idea

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but it doesn't require using the public stash tab api >_<

wind garden Feb 7, 2017, 7:08 PM

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Why not just use autoit to move your mouse over your currency tab and ctrl+c, then parse the text and convert currency ratios? 😛

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How does authentication work for getting your own stash? Or is it only publicly visible tabs?

desert needle Feb 7, 2017, 7:15 PM

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as long as you have a cookie active you're good to go

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(sessionid)

torpid mesa Feb 7, 2017, 7:21 PM

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Prob better off adding the feature to acqusition than all the work of remaking everything it has

wind garden Feb 7, 2017, 7:58 PM

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Can the api get private stash tabs?

desert needle Feb 7, 2017, 8:21 PM

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the personal api can get your own, yes - but not others, and the public api can't get private ones

chrome topaz Feb 7, 2017, 8:31 PM

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acquisition logs your currency every refresh i think

mortal bone Feb 7, 2017, 8:33 PM

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The personal api has a lot in it. It can be really abused though, so I would be careful with it

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You can do things like buying MTX and such

torpid mesa Feb 7, 2017, 8:45 PM

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woah

mortal bone Feb 7, 2017, 8:47 PM

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Yeah, well it is how GGG confirms your account and without OAUTH you can do everything they can

torpid mesa Feb 7, 2017, 8:50 PM

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i thought the login that aqusition does with sessid could only read items, deng

mortal bone Feb 7, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Nope

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The session id can literally do everything on your account

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I don't think many realize this

torpid mesa Feb 7, 2017, 8:53 PM

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lol unfortunate

mortal bone Feb 7, 2017, 8:54 PM

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Thread/PM spam and auto MTX buying are the only major things it can do

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As far as I am aware

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I'm not sure how far you could get into the point buying process either

wind garden Feb 7, 2017, 9:07 PM

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Is it documented?

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I haven't heard anything about it except in this channel

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Would be nice to have my app only notify me about items I can afford

mortal bone Feb 7, 2017, 9:10 PM

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Not documented

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The MTX Finder I helped finish up has some good examples of character/private stash api

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At least the end points

wind garden Feb 7, 2017, 9:15 PM

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Is it in your git repo?

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MTX finder

mortal bone Feb 7, 2017, 9:18 PM

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Should be

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Yep

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https://github.com/EmmittJ/MTX_Finder

GitHub

EmmittJ/MTX_Finder

MTX_Finder - This is a Path of Exile MTX Finder

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You get 45 requests and then you are timed out for 1 min

wind garden Feb 7, 2017, 9:22 PM

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Thanks

chrome topaz Feb 7, 2017, 11:41 PM

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would suck if somebody logged into my account and bought me some mtx with their card

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 1:38 AM

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@mortal bone is there a way to fetch just the tabs list?

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or do I just have to do a fetch with &tabs=1&tabIndex=0 and thend do a second fetch if my currency tab isn't index 0 and use the correct index?

pseudo ocean Feb 8, 2017, 1:54 AM

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girls familiar w/ shell: i got a command like so: ./thing_im_doing argument_of_thing && rsync (...) output_of_thing.html
how can i put this in the background? if i add another & at the end it just backgrounds the rsync

velvet fog Feb 8, 2017, 1:57 AM

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@wind garden: http://poedb.tw/us/article.php?id=API

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 2:43 AM

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@wind garden tabs=1 means you always get a list of tabs attached to the payload

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"tabs": [ { "n":"<stash tab name>", "i":<tab index>, "id":"<stash ID hash>", "type":"<Normal|Premium|Currency|Essence|DivinationCard|Quad>Stash", "hidden":true | false, "selected":true | false, "colour":{"r":99,"g":128,"b":0}, "srcL":"<stash tab left image url>", "srcC":"<stash tab center image url>", "srcR":"<stash tab right image url>" }, ... ]

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 3:03 AM

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I would format it better, but I am on mobile sorry

compact isle Feb 8, 2017, 4:33 AM

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looks like you have to pass a tabIndex along too @wind garden

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I just committed a fix for it so that passing no tabIndex means it doesn't return items: [] etc

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but idk when the next patch is

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 5:17 AM

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The current tabindex seems to default to the first tab

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 6:25 AM

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Thanks @compact isle!

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:07 AM

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so i'm able to get the stash json from my browser but not from my C# app

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i'm assuming it's because my browser has a session already cached

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how do I get a sessionID and pass it to the private API?

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:34 AM

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Take it from your cookies?

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:34 AM

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ya

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i got POESESSID

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now i'm trying to use it

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:35 AM

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Then just use it as a cookie in C# as well.

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:35 AM

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do i just set a header for "Cookie" and "POESESSID=xxxxxxx"?

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:35 AM

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What C# web client are you using?

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WebClient or HttpClient?`

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:35 AM

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well i read WebClient doesn't support cookies natively

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so i'm using an extended cookie aware web client

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''' public class CookieAwareWebClient : WebClient
{
public CookieAwareWebClient()
: this(new CookieContainer())
{ }
public CookieAwareWebClient(CookieContainer c)
{
this.CookieContainer = c;
}
public CookieContainer CookieContainer { get; set; }

    protected override WebRequest GetWebRequest(Uri address)
    {
        WebRequest request = base.GetWebRequest(address);

        var castRequest = request as HttpWebRequest;
        if (castRequest != null)
        {
            castRequest.CookieContainer = this.CookieContainer;
        }

        return request;
    }
}'''

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:36 AM

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WebClient does have a CookieCollection afaik

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:36 AM

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hmm that didn't work

pulsar moat Feb 8, 2017, 7:36 AM

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To use formatting type three back tics before and after the code

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

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it isn't working

pulsar moat Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

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New line after and before back ticks

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code here

ebon oasis Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

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its ` not '

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

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'''
echo "Hello World"
'''

pulsar moat Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

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echo "Hello World"

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

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single quotes?

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echo

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oh

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there we go

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    public class CookieAwareWebClient : WebClient
    {
        public CookieAwareWebClient()
        : this(new CookieContainer())
        { }
        public CookieAwareWebClient(CookieContainer c)
        {
            this.CookieContainer = c;
        }
        public CookieContainer CookieContainer { get; set; }

        protected override WebRequest GetWebRequest(Uri address)
        {
            WebRequest request = base.GetWebRequest(address);

            var castRequest = request as HttpWebRequest;
            if (castRequest != null)
            {
                castRequest.CookieContainer = this.CookieContainer;
            }

            return request;
        }
    }

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:38 AM

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var cookieContainer = new CookieContainer();
var baseAddress = new Uri("http://www.pathofexile.com/");
var handler = new HttpClientHandler { CookieContainer = cookieContainer };

var client = new HttpClient(handler) { BaseAddress = baseAddress };
cookieContainer.Add(baseAddress, new Cookie("POESESSID", sessionId));

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That's what I do

pulsar moat Feb 8, 2017, 7:38 AM

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you can specify language with it somehow but never got around to that

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:39 AM

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HttpClient is the newer WebClient..

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:39 AM

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ya i did csharp

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after the 3 ticks

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:39 AM

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Did you see my code above yours?

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:39 AM

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ya

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let me try

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there we go 😃

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i needed the baseAddress added to my cookieContainer

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was just doing Add(new Cookie(name, value)) before

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:42 AM

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Ah yeah.

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 7:42 AM

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Ah, yep

fickle yew Feb 8, 2017, 7:42 AM

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No such thing as global cookies 😃

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Luckily.

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:42 AM

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awesome, it's working now 😃

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my app can sense how much currency I have

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and skip items I can't afford

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 7:43 AM

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Yep, the web api does take a bit to update sometimes

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basically the same as public stashes

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:43 AM

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how much is a bit?

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few minutes?

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 7:43 AM

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zone change can force the sync

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otherwise about 5 mins

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 7:44 AM

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that's fine

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 8:33 PM

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If we can get stash items, would it ever be possible to set item prices via api?

desert needle Feb 8, 2017, 8:38 PM

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unlikely.

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 9:58 PM

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imagine how amazing that would be though

#

could have an app to manage your item prices. Throw everything up for a high price and then programmatically bring the price down every time interval until it sells.

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 10:09 PM

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Yep, there are probably a bunch of those types of programs floating around

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though you would have to use forums because you can't change item prices with a program

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 10:10 PM

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ya really inconvenient

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would be easy if we could just submit json data

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get-stash-items gives you an id for an item

mortal bone Feb 8, 2017, 10:11 PM

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poe.trade still parses forums if you wanted to

wind garden Feb 8, 2017, 10:11 PM

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just pass that id back with a new price

velvet fog Feb 9, 2017, 1:52 AM

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It's a nice feature

compact isle Feb 9, 2017, 2:36 AM

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we generally don't let modifications happen to the game backend from the website

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since then there would need to be weird sync stuff

velvet fog Feb 9, 2017, 4:04 AM

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sad news

mortal bone Feb 9, 2017, 4:07 AM

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makes sense

wind garden Feb 9, 2017, 5:41 AM

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Understood, but I still think it's a good suggesting worth passing on 😃

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There may also be plans in motion that would make such a request unnecessary

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so take it for what it's worth

tulip gale Feb 9, 2017, 12:48 PM

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@pseudo ocean just wrap it in a bash script and then background the script

sly oracle Feb 10, 2017, 5:11 AM

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Letting outside programs set your item's prices just encourages botting.

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 5:46 AM

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who cares?

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in this specific case, the whole point of adding the feature is specifically so programs can set prices automatically

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that's not a bot, that's just 3rd party development implementing features that should have been part of the main game

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:32 AM

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are you hearing yourself

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setting prices automatically, not a bot?

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:33 AM

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it's exactly the inverse of everything poe.trade does

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you can't claim that's a bot and poe.trade isn't

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:33 AM

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program that lets you set prices = not a bot

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program that sets prices automatically = bot

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:33 AM

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vs a program that lets you read prices automatically

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you're just arguing symantics

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:34 AM

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c'mon we know you don't care because you're smart, you can write your own tools, and you enjoy having an advantage

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but a lot of people would care about bots automatically undercutting or pricing better than them

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:35 AM

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how does undercutting yourself give you an advantage?

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:35 AM

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it's not semantics, it's two different things. one is automated, one isn't

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:35 AM

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besides, such a thing would certainly be release open source to the community anyways

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it would effectively equalize the supply/demand

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allowing more items to be posted for less effort

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everyone wins

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:36 AM

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I'm not arguing the pros and cons, I'm saying an automated tool is a bot

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:36 AM

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call it what you will

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:36 AM

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why pretend it's not a bot

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you want a bot to set prices. that's fair, not judging you

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:36 AM

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that's fine

waxen ridge Feb 10, 2017, 8:36 AM

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OK I don't think we need to continue arguing over bots here folks

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:36 AM

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there's just negative connotations with the word

timid fable Feb 10, 2017, 8:37 AM

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avoiding the word doesn't change what it does. you'll just get ridiculed if you go out and insist your automated tool isn't a bot

wind garden Feb 10, 2017, 8:37 AM

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simply a tool facilitating trade

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something the game needs

haughty ingot Feb 10, 2017, 7:04 PM

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game needs an npc that hangs out in player's hideout that sells the items in players stashes with buy out prices

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hi wtb something, pls wait im in a map. would not happen anymore.

torpid mesa Feb 10, 2017, 7:07 PM

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letting peeps come in to your hideout and only interact with that npc/stash would be pcewl

haughty ingot Feb 10, 2017, 7:08 PM

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anybody know of a good tool to price rare items?

torpid mesa Feb 10, 2017, 7:09 PM

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experience is the only way

haughty ingot Feb 10, 2017, 7:09 PM

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you think?

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what if that experienced player built a system that priced things?

torpid mesa Feb 10, 2017, 7:09 PM

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could also look at that shows what gear top builds are running

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the info changes too often is the issue

haughty ingot Feb 10, 2017, 7:10 PM

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kinda, a good item will always be a good item

torpid mesa Feb 10, 2017, 7:10 PM

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it might as well just say 4 t1 mods are gud

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yeah but a good item can be 10c or 10 ex

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depending on current meta

haughty ingot Feb 10, 2017, 7:11 PM

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thats an extreme drift on a rare tho from 10c-10x

torpid mesa Feb 10, 2017, 7:11 PM

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its demand for that particular set of mods that makes items valuable

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and its rarity that gives them any base value

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so you basically would need a tool that knows how rare certain rolls are and then compare it to what rolls top players buy on gear

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which would still require an experienced player to understand unless the dev is a ui genius

ancient smelt Feb 11, 2017, 6:05 AM

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Is there still a AHK Script / Overlay around to track your current ladder position for races? I think ExileTools had one, but it´s down 😦

wind garden Feb 11, 2017, 6:42 AM

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RIP exile tools

velvet fog Feb 11, 2017, 12:24 PM

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any way to get version number from Content.ggpk ?

velvet fog Feb 11, 2017, 1:03 PM

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I'm using patch_notes.rtf to identify Content.ggpk, but it got removed.

timid fable Feb 11, 2017, 2:47 PM

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@velvet fog maybe get it from Client.txt log? when it connects to patch server

mortal bone Feb 11, 2017, 6:25 PM

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He is data mining

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He doesn't really want to run the client

timid fable Feb 11, 2017, 6:27 PM

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he has to get the updated content.ggpk somehow, right?

mortal bone Feb 11, 2017, 6:28 PM

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they sometimes offer a torrent of it

cosmic saffron Feb 11, 2017, 6:28 PM

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could scrape the first post title in https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes

Path of Exile

Forum - Patch Notes - Path of Exile

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

timid fable Feb 11, 2017, 6:28 PM

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I see, in that case they probably mention the patch version in the torrent too

pseudo ocean Feb 11, 2017, 11:45 PM

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i made a bot, can i test it in this channel?

pulsar moat Feb 11, 2017, 11:46 PM

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I'd say probably not, you can make your own server instantly to test it anyway.

pseudo ocean Feb 11, 2017, 11:46 PM

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snipes underpriced items on poetrade and puts it in whisper form

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is it something i could somehow share with this discord?

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I think it could be a good tool for making currency, easy trades

pulsar moat Feb 11, 2017, 11:48 PM

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As long as it doesn't automate ingame actions and just generates text from APIs/poe.trade, it should be allowed. I'd suggest posting the github link on the subreddit for better coverage though.

pseudo ocean Feb 11, 2017, 11:50 PM

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yeah you still have to paste the message ingame, its the same as clicking the link on poe-trade, ive never tried github.. will look into that

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its really only to help people in discord that dont want to use poetrade..they could just look in a channel and see the best deals or easiest items to buy and flip for profit

pulsar moat Feb 11, 2017, 11:55 PM

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It sounds good! Just make sure to have the source code visible for people. On the subreddit we don't really allow people posting executable downloads, unless we can see the source and verify it's OK

pseudo ocean Feb 11, 2017, 11:56 PM

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Oh there is no download, its hard to explain - can I possibly show you in a private chat?

pulsar moat Feb 11, 2017, 11:59 PM

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Oh it's a website?

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Or is it AHK code?

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 5:10 AM

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@pseudo ocean how do you determine if something is underpriced?

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 6:58 AM

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The bot takes a pool of that particular items current and past prices seen within 12 hours..on a slow day i may increase it to 24 hours. It then only shows us items that if flipped would net us a profit of 35+% or 2+ex.

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 6:58 AM

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so do you have your own indexer keeping track of history?

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 6:59 AM

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The bot itself is just running 24/7 keeping track of everything, yeah

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:00 AM

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mm

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i need to write my own

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i might before the next league starts

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 7:01 AM

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It is pretty helpful

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:01 AM

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i just read the api stream realtime but don't keep history

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so i rely on poe.ninja for data

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but it gets really inaccurate at times

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i think it's because he doesn't have access to player online/offline status

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so offline items throw off his averages

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 7:03 AM

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what stops him from having online/offline knowledge?

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:03 AM

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it's a private API

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have to request access from GGG

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and I don't think he's bothered

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I've nudged, but no luck heh

velvet fog Feb 12, 2017, 7:04 AM

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you can mail customer support with your site / app and how you use online api

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:05 AM

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I'd definitely do that if I had an indexer

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but i don't yet

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since his site is publicly used so much i don't have any doubt they'd OK it

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 7:05 AM

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hmmm, mine supports online/offline access but I never requested anything from GGG

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:06 AM

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how do you get that info?

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 7:06 AM

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very carefully ;D

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:06 AM

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i mean, the stash api doesn't include that right?

pseudo ocean Feb 12, 2017, 7:08 AM

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He could atleast narrow it down, if he assumes most people have a premium tab he could run a verify on a sale item to show if its online or off

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or maybe thats what hes doing already and thats why its inconsistant

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:09 AM

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could be

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@fickle yew you around?

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is that what you do then?

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just infer?

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@desert needle if you were to rewrite ExileTools again, would you still use ElasticSearch? Or are there other alternatives that you'd recommend?

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:44 PM

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@compact isle do you know why the JSON for items has a mixed datatype array?

{
"properties": [{
        "name": "Stack Size",
        "values": [["10\/10",
        0]],
        "displayMode": 0
    }]
}

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what's with the 0 after 10/10?

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same thing here

{
"requirements": [{
                "name": "Level",
                "values": [["52",
                0]],
                "displayMode": 0
            }]
}

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there's a 0 after "52"

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it looks like it might be used to indicate whether it's an explicit property or not

mortal bone Feb 12, 2017, 7:48 PM

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They are using the same structure as above, so it would make sense that they would be mixed

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:48 PM

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what do you mean as above?

chrome topaz Feb 12, 2017, 7:49 PM

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it's like displayMode i think

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if it's 1 it's displayed in blue, right?

wind garden Feb 12, 2017, 7:49 PM

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that would make sense

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xyz what do you use for your database on poe.trade?

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it's text color

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1 is blue, 0 is white

chrome topaz Feb 12, 2017, 10:09 PM

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for items it's custom stuff

compact isle Feb 12, 2017, 11:29 PM

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xyz is correct, it's the display style of the value

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looks weird in json but makes a bit more sense in the backend

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 12:55 AM

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K I'll just have to strip it out and reserialize the json

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 1:51 AM

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hmmm, thinking about how to make an indexer is helping me see the challenges in getting accurate item prices

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The problem is that the value of chaos:exalt changes from when one item is added to the index vs another

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@desert needle chose a static value of 70c:1ex for the sake of having consistent indexing

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the problem with that is when items are priced in chaos vs exalts

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you usually have a mix of the two

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so if exalts are much lower in value than what you chose (ie 70), then those priced in ex are going to be overvalued by any query you do

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you can get better data by choosing the current exchange rate at the time of adding an item to the index. However, this causes another problem when you have older items in the index. Once the price of an item starts to move up or down, those items that are still left for sale throw off the averages

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I think the best solution would be to price items at the time of adding to the index, and then query with a maximum age of 30min or something

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 1:55 AM

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you could price items as they come in then run a job that recalculates the relative prices of older items in batches

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 1:55 AM

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that's just not realistic as the index grows to a large size

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would take too much processing power

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 1:55 AM

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surely you're not too interested in old items though

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if you're just looking to flip

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 1:56 AM

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true

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but then i would have to purge my index of old items

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which messes things up

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i guess what you're saying is query based on age and update only those items

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 1:56 AM

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you could just partition them then delete outdated partitions when you're done with them

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yes

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 1:57 AM

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what I really wish is that I could calculate price at the time of executing the query

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 1:57 AM

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which is easy but then you have problems sorting

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useless your query returns a small enough result set that it doesn't matter

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 1:58 AM

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If i sort by age, it might not be so bad

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assuming I'm doing what poe.ninja does and only look at uniques and other similar items

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it's only a few hundred items

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the question is, is it worth doing all that?

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am I going to get significantly more accurate results over what poe.ninja has today

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poe.ninja is only inaccurate when the prices of things are moving rapidly

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up or down

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 1:59 AM

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I haven't been following his data lately, does it get pretty inaccurate at times?

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 1:59 AM

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it was early in the league

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as the value of exalts was going up

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 2:00 AM

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right, might be a side-effect of his anti-manipulation stuff

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 2:00 AM

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could be

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only happens when the chaos:exalt ratio shifts up or down

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and I don't know if you can avoid that inaccuracy

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without introducing other types of inaccuracy

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if you have to throw out so many data points based on age, you lose other useful things too

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ultimately what you want is the cheapest item

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it's just the manipulators that screw it up

compact isle Feb 13, 2017, 2:02 AM

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too many to blacklist?

wind garden Feb 13, 2017, 2:02 AM

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well that requires manual intervention

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see here's what happens

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i'm playing the game, I hear a ding for an item

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at that point I have two options

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I can either paste in the message and offer to buy the item

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or I can look it up on poe.trade to see what it's really selling at

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the latter prevents me from making an offer that's a bad deal

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but wastes valuable time

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if I'm at my desk, i can look up the item while I'm completing the trade

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but If i'm remotely logged in on my phone, that's really difficult