#tooldev-general | Path of Exile 1 & 2 | Page 33

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:35 PM

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So the average selling price of the 1, 2, and 5 percentiles respectively?

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:35 PM

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yes

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:36 PM

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That should be doable

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:36 PM

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seems like it

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:40 PM

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You just want to display that on a per-unique basis, correct?

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:40 PM

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ya

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cause my goal is to get acurate prices for the 1,2, and 5%

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which means i need to get the price in exalts and chaos for each item in those goups

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groups**

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:41 PM

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How about changing the avgPriceExalt field to

                "avgPriceExalt": {
                    "percentiles":{
                        "field": "shop.price.Exalted Orb",
                        "percents": [1.0,2.0,5.0]
                    }
                }

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:41 PM

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if i do percentiles on shop.price.Chaos Orb, it's going to give me a totally different set of items than if i did it on Exalted Orb

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because not every item has a price in chaos or exalt

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:42 PM

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So you want to represent the cheapest 1, 2, 5 as a single value regardless of which currency it's priced in

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?

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:42 PM

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heh this is confusing

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so for all the instances of a single unique

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take those items and divide them into buckets of percent, bottom 1% of items, 2% of those items, and 5% of items

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so if you have 100 items, the buckets will have 1, 2 and 5 items in them

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:43 PM

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correct

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:43 PM

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then within those buckets, calculate the average of shop.price.Chaos Orb and average of shop.price.Exalted Orb

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separately

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if none of the items in a bucket have a price in chaos or exalt then return NaN

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using percentiles acts on only the items that have exalted orb not null

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or chaos orb not null

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so in general you have few items with a price in chaos

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so you're doing percent on a range of 5 items

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vs a range of 200 items

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:47 PM

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Would this replace the existing aggregations for min price and such, or be in addition?

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 6:48 PM

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in addition

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that's all done in a separate filters bucket

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 6:53 PM

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Hmm, need to think on it a bit

merry oracle Jun 10, 2016, 7:49 PM

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The real problem that I keep getting stuck on is how to get the bottom 5% of items, and then after that calculate the 1, 2, and 5 for those

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 7:53 PM

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I don't think you can do it without scripting

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i think i just need to chose a different metric

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the 1,2,5% doesn't make a lot of sense anyways

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what would be more useful would be tracking the average price now, 24, 48, and 72 hours ago

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so you could see if it's rising or falling

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as well i should track the current lowest price and the 24hr low

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:20 PM

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hey whos the guy who made that trading tool

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think I found a bug

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:20 PM

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me

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what'd you find

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:20 PM

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@wind garden, well first it looks rly great !!

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@wind garden, unfortunately the rumi's concoction numbers for HC prophecy dont make sense

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I was watching that item closely before buying one

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has been consistently above 1ex

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didnt see any item for 25c or close to that

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:21 PM

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which column are you looking at?

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:21 PM

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all of them are about 24chaos

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:22 PM

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hmm k

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i can take a look at it in a bit

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i'm working on changing the 3 percent columns

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to something more useful

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:23 PM

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but in general this looks like a rly awesome tool

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I actually work as a professional trader in finance and most of the stuff we have is shit compared to this

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:24 PM

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new plan is columns for:
current lowest price
lowest price in the last 24h
Sold count last 24h
MarketCap
Avg Price last 24h
Avg Price last 24-48h
Avg Price last 48-72h

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:25 PM

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well in my opinion the best statistics are the ones about the order book actually -- what is selling where

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average price as you already pointed out is not that useful

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:25 PM

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the goal with avg price was see if price is trending up or down

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or flat

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i don't want to implement any sort of chart

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:25 PM

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normally that doesnt work, maybe it does in poe

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:25 PM

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so this was like a simple indicator

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why wouldn't it? get avg price from mon, tues, wed for example

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:26 PM

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try it, maybe it will work really great 😃

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:26 PM

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when I say avg I mean bottom 10%, to exclude things priced way to high

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:27 PM

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so one interesting thing, often when an item is delisted (I assume that it has a UUID???) it means it traded there

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or traded maybe a bit less

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I would try to use that as an average price if you want one

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:27 PM

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every item has a date updated

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the last point it is updated is when it goes from verified=YES to verified=GONE

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:28 PM

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but no unique identifier?

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:28 PM

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they do have a uuid

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but i haven't been using it so far

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:28 PM

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so I can't say Call of the Brotherhood UUID 1212347163876213 belonged to ehtom then Retik and now GGG_Neon

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well your new columns would be pretty good anyway I think, though I suspect you would find the first 3 most useful

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:29 PM

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one thing right now is that elasticsearch 2.3 doens't have the ability to limit permissions on scripting

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so trackpete has it disabled for security reasons

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that kinda limits what i can do on some of the more complicated queries

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it's been a learning process though. I'll work on what i have planned and can make improvements in the future

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:32 PM

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anyway man looks like a rly great tool

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:32 PM

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thanks

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:32 PM

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but if you have a sec let me know on the rumi data

wind garden Jun 10, 2016, 10:32 PM

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come back later and i'll let you know what i found about the weird data

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if you're still in discord i'll mention you so you get a notification

pseudo ocean Jun 10, 2016, 10:33 PM

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alright

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cool dude

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 1:00 AM

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@pseudo ocean I believe I've fixied your bug and completed my updates

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i think it was pulling data from Prophecy league instead of PHC

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try v1.8

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 4:52 AM

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are there a bunch of UUIDs (id field) double in the stash api? Have a check running with StashItem::firstOrNew(['uuid' => $data['id']]); which returns a Model of an StashItem if the UUID already exists and at around 5k items it doesn't create new entries because every UUID already exists for the next 10-15k records

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 4:53 AM

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i don't know

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but i've been getting weird results from exiletools

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it shows the min price for carcass jack as 2ex

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but there are none listed at 2ex on poe.trade

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uuid is a unique identifier for an item and character

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if it changes hands to another character, the uuid gets regenerated

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the stash api, however, sends an update anytime a players stash is updated

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so if i have 10 items in a tab, and i change 1, i get updates for the other 9 again

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so i would expect to see the same uuid multiple times from the stash api

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that's why exiletools has shop.updated and shop.modified

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there are items that get updated because they were included in a stash update for another item even though they themselves weren't modified

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 4:59 AM

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ugh, thats so annoying. guess I will calculate my own UUID to make it truly unique

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 4:59 AM

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what are you using it for

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uuid is unique for item

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if i knew what you were wanating it would easier to answer

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:01 AM

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I just dump the public stash api data into my database for use with my private terminal search tool and I use the UUID to check if an item already exists in my database

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Ran my crawler with the UUID check and it stopped for a few minutes at 5217 records. Now I run it without the UUID check and it is already at 120k

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:03 AM

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that doesn't seem right

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you should see updates for uuids that exist in the database already

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but there should be a lot more than 5k

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a lot more than 5k uuids

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:04 AM

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yeah, it continues after 2-3 minutes but during that time all UUIDs that are incoming seem to be duplicates

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:04 AM

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hmm

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are you at the tip of the chain?

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:04 AM

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and all the crawler does is to send HTTP requests to the API and attach next_change_id to the request if it is available from the previous request

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:04 AM

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there were a ton of empty stash updates from standard

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from when old leagues got dumped to standard, all the remove only stashes looked weird

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:05 AM

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at the moment i completly reset the database before every crawler run

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so always from 0

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:05 AM

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so ya

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there will probably be an hour to so where you see nearly no items

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if you keep going it should eventually get to the good stuff

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:06 AM

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alright, so it is normal. Thought I failed on something as simple as a data comparsion haha

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:06 AM

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ya @desert needle and I were noticing it this week when they had to reindex

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my service is setup to pull the next_change_id from his indexer so when he started over, so did mine

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:07 AM

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I guess I will just let it run without the UUID check for now and then later see how many duplicate UUIDs there are

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:07 AM

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ya, i'd just be patient with it

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if you're at tip and still seeing that behavior i'd be worried

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i can give you a recent next_change_id if you wanna test it

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8560197-9200557-8460851-10078426-9363238

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that's the last one i processed

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:08 AM

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does it make a performance difference if I use pathofexile.com or @desert needle index?

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:08 AM

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depends how much you care on performance

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but exiletools index is pretty fast

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especially after @desert needle updated his backend

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he has a notifier to that lets you subscribe for updates before they get indexed

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so you don't have the overhead of processing time

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he said he saw a few market snipers that were using it to look for vagan daggers

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quite successfully to 😃

pulsar moat Jun 11, 2016, 5:10 AM

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can you link to the notifier?

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or the documentation for it

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:10 AM

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http://exiletools.com/blog/2015/08/25/tutorial-creating-a-simple-item-availability-notification-script-with-python/

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hold on

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i don't think that's it

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that's dated august

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i wish there was an easy way to search discord history

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or better yet, bookmark things

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 5:11 AM

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Pretty much what I am building for myself as a terminal app

pulsar moat Jun 11, 2016, 5:11 AM

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Yeah and you can't even scroll back farther than ~15k messages

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Without massive lag

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I'd love to export a channel into a text file or set of them

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:12 AM

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found it

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scrolled up far enough heh

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexiledev/comments/4kv3mt/real_time_stash_api_filtered_web_socket_based/

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i've used socketio before

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i should write a client in c#

pulsar moat Jun 11, 2016, 5:19 AM

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I just noticed a bot we've been using on another server has a log function

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📎 unknown.png

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https://mee6.xyz

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:20 AM

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oh nice

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what is @onyx scaffold

pulsar moat Jun 11, 2016, 5:21 AM

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Rhino bot, it's for moderating stuff, bans, kicks, word filters, rate limiting

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can't find it hmm

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!!help

desert roost Jun 11, 2016, 5:23 AM

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What're you looking for?

pulsar moat Jun 11, 2016, 5:23 AM

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https://github.com/SexualRhinoceros/ModTools/wiki/Command-List boom

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was finding the documentation for rhino for Retik

desert roost Jun 11, 2016, 5:23 AM

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Ah

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 5:38 AM

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lol

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i tried out @desert needle's socketio filter

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i get the message "You are limited to 20 filters at a time! 47 is too many!"

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oo but i am getting heartbeats

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not sure what that means

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 6:26 AM

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are there any more undocumented api endpoints like the public stash one?

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 6:33 AM

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publish stash?

pseudo ocean Jun 11, 2016, 6:35 AM

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woops, public stash i mean 😛

wind garden Jun 11, 2016, 6:35 AM

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not that i know of

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not sure if there's stuff for league or character profiles

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but i haven't used them

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ya something is whack

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http://api.exiletools.com/uniques/#/Prophecy/Carcass Jack Varnished Coat/PastWeek

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shows 2ex verified now

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but poe.trade sees cheapest price is 2.5ex

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and poe.trade is looking at forums and stash api

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so i think that 2ex in exiletools is stale

pulsar moat Jun 11, 2016, 7:24 AM

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The api says that lifesprig is the 2nd most common unique

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Must be tired because I can't figure out what most common is.

chrome topaz Jun 11, 2016, 9:59 PM

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got this email today

📎 email.png

desert roost Jun 11, 2016, 9:59 PM

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Sounds like a charmer.

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Now if only you could figure out the IP of the person who sent it and block them from using the site.

solid whale Jun 11, 2016, 10:01 PM

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What site are we talking about ?

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Poe.trade ?

chrome topaz Jun 11, 2016, 10:04 PM

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yes

solid whale Jun 11, 2016, 10:07 PM

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Lol

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Is it possible to filter out afk players as well ?

chrome topaz Jun 11, 2016, 10:09 PM

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nope

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complain to GGG and maybe they will add something

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(it's not even long polling...)

solid whale Jun 11, 2016, 10:11 PM

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Lol

desert roost Jun 11, 2016, 10:11 PM

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Your site is fine, don't take let him/her get to you :P

loud umbra Jun 11, 2016, 10:11 PM

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Wonder why that dude's so mad.

solid whale Jun 11, 2016, 10:13 PM

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He prob messaged like 20+ afk players for trade

loud umbra Jun 11, 2016, 10:14 PM

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Probably. Or he was majorly low-balling and was just ignored. :P

chrome topaz Jun 11, 2016, 10:16 PM

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at least it's not death threats like that another guy got sent to him

loud umbra Jun 11, 2016, 10:17 PM

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Which guy?

solid whale Jun 11, 2016, 10:21 PM

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Oh how about is it possible to change the color of that trade you have already copy so when u refresh the page you won't had to message the same guy again

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Similar to when your googling

chrome topaz Jun 11, 2016, 10:23 PM

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don't remember his name

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sounds like a good idea, @solid whale

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but it already says "copied to clipboard"

solid whale Jun 11, 2016, 10:24 PM

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Yeah I browse through trade a lot so those are just slproblrms I face

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But when you refresh that page it will reset

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And those that had copied to clipboard would change back to copy instead

mortal bone Jun 11, 2016, 10:31 PM

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it was the currency exchange guy

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he had a dude show up as his house and threaten him

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or something along those lines

loud umbra Jun 11, 2016, 10:32 PM

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At his house? WTF?

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I thought it was just an e-mail o.o

mortal bone Jun 11, 2016, 10:32 PM

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It may have been threatening with an address

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2wxg3s/the_state_of_exilebro_or_why_im_done_with_it/

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The guy threatened to show up at his door

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He just took the site down

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I think @desert needle hosted the service actually

loud umbra Jun 11, 2016, 10:40 PM

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Yeah I remember that happening. But I didn't realize there was a threat to show up at the guy's house.

mortal bone Jun 11, 2016, 10:40 PM

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Yep

chrome topaz Jun 11, 2016, 10:43 PM

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that's terrible

mortal bone Jun 11, 2016, 10:45 PM

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Yeah, some people are awful

analog orbit Jun 12, 2016, 5:53 AM

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@Multiplicity , second most popular is Roth's Reach (PSC)

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http://exiletra.de/stats/

pulsar moat Jun 12, 2016, 6:29 AM

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Yesterday it said Lifesprig was #2, but thanks for the link

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I was using http://api.exiletools.com/uniques/
@analog orbit

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Did not realize Roth's was so common.

mortal bone Jun 12, 2016, 9:51 AM

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The chain is really good for EK

analog orbit Jun 12, 2016, 10:21 AM

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the new ancestor totem is OP, 3L and it's killing rares and uniques in a few sec

frosty hatch Jun 12, 2016, 12:43 PM

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Is there a price checking script?

pulsar moat Jun 12, 2016, 1:46 PM

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Zyrm try the link I posted 4 messages up

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Works great for uniques.

deft tundra Jun 12, 2016, 8:18 PM

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that is pretty interesting data

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 1:49 PM

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Retik: i tried out @trackpete's socketio filter <-- you could, technically, just create more connections. 20 is an arbitrary limit I set to prevent people from creating hundreds of filters

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the hate for klayver was crazy - specifically it was a subset of people who believed that poexchange then exilebro specifically was designed to support flippers

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it was a weird cycle, mostly flippers used it so normal people refused to, which meant everything stayed at flipper rates

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wasn't until xyz implemented currency trading that we finally got some semblance of "normal" users doing currency trading

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but there's still very weird hate

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:24 PM

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@desert needle i'm not sure it's working like you intended. It's behaving as though the "filter limit" is actually a character limit ona new filter

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ie. i use the simple generic filter, it's 28 characters long

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i get an error saying filter limit 20 and 28 is too long

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if i use a more advanced filter with 300 characters. it says filter limit 20, 300 too long

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:29 PM

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you must not be submitting the object correctly

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:29 PM

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maybe

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:29 PM

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or

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wtf

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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?

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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nope whew I'm ok

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it's an array, not an object

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      console.log('-->  FILTER FAIL: ' + socket.id + ' (' + socket.handshake.query.pwxid + ') ');
      io.to(socket.id).emit('error', { error : "You are limited to 20 filters at a time! " + filter.length + " is too many!" });
      return;
    }```

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http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_length_array.asp

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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ah ok

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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maybe you are submitting it as an object instead of an array?

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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so the [] is needed

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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yep

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:31 PM

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still doesn't work

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sending

[{"league":{eq:"Standard"}}]

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:32 PM

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-->  FILTER FAIL: /#RSlFlpNPMq4x9giVAAAC (c22e3329-4b7a-40ec-80b3-d26fbc965ab2)```

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maybe you're sending it as text instead of JSON?

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:32 PM

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lol, well

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i am

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but what does that mean to send it as json?

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i thought json was just a format

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:32 PM

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depending on how you send it, it might get url encoded

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:33 PM

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oo maybe i need ot add an encoding header

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:34 PM

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there's a client.js that I know works, and you can peek at exiletra.de/auto for a javascript in-line version

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:34 PM

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yaaaaa. trying to do it in c# though 😃

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:34 PM

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experimental-html-client.html in the project might work too

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aaah

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yeah

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:35 PM

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the socket.io library i'm using is less than mainstream

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:36 PM

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all I know is that my server shouldn't see escaped formatted, this is what it normally looks like: --> RECVD FILTER: /#WHsJjzbNEHVWxkIQAAAF (0b1a6ac0-0a3b-4619-b2b0-cdcba58aa774) [{"eq":{"attributes.league":"Standard"}}]

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:36 PM

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i also frequently get an error saying "server committed a protocol violation

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:36 PM

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oh, also you're not setting the format right

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:36 PM

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howso?

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:37 PM

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the eq gt and lt should be top level objects inside each element of the array

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you're thinking elasticsearch format 😃

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:37 PM

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i copied this from your example though O.o

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:37 PM

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this is different

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wat

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nope

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https://github.com/trackpete/exiletools-indexer/tree/master/related/node-monitor

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unless your stuff is encoding off order

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"[{\"league\":{eq:\"Standard\"}}]" vs [{"eq":{"attributes.league":"Standard"}}]

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:38 PM

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wat the

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where did i get it from???

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i know i didn't type if myself

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:38 PM

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lol

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no idea

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:39 PM

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k, correct format now

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same error

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:40 PM

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1s try again now?

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I was bouncing services to up the limit to 50, maybe it got caught

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-->  FILTER FAIL: /#EX2-jbKzCL43qmjyAAAC (b5c9216d-1a3a-413f-a683-3745a20350d6) ```

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:40 PM

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says limited to 50 filters

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51 is too many

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:41 PM

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yeah maybe the escaping is preventing the json from being parsed properly

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that's the only thing I can think of

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 3:41 PM

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that's weird, why is it including the escaping?

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 3:41 PM

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fwiw there are a few clients connected and no other problems and I still can't replicate that ;x

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I think your c# client is "safe" encoding it, that's all I can think of

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 4:45 PM

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don't think so

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idk what's wrong with it

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:02 PM

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@desert needle it's getting the text but it doesn't see it correctly

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i shortened it to < 50 characters and now it's failing a foreach

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"filter.forEach is not a function"

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ya i just don't think the support for socket io in c# is good enough

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there's only 2 libraries and they don't have any documentation

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if i had to guess, i don't think the [] array around the jSON is valid

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Sent Filter: [{"eq":{"attributes.league":"Standard"}}]

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looks correct

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:30 PM

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yeah, not sure what's going on with it

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worst case you can mess with node.js, it's pretty easy 😉

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client is already written!

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:31 PM

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ya

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but i was wanting to see if i could integrate it with my existing app :/

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which is in c#

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:32 PM

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it's really weird that it's tripping, I mean, theoretically it should be quite simple

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are you using this? https://socketio4net.codeplex.com/documentation

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        socket.Emit("partInfo", newPart);``` that style should work

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:34 PM

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couldn't use that client

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didn't support the query

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using this one

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https://github.com/Quobject/SocketIoClientDotNet

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:34 PM

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what does your emit line for the filter look like?

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:35 PM

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socket.Emit("filter", filterText );

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:35 PM

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and something like var filterText = ' [ { "eq" : { "attributes.league" : "Standard" } } ]' to set it?

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:35 PM

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and filterText is [{"eq":{"attributes.league":"Standard"}}]

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:35 PM

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are you using single quotes around it?

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:35 PM

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c# doesn't use single quotes

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but it is a string type

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:36 PM

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hrm

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do you then convert it to an object or send it as plain text?

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:36 PM

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i send it as plain text

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:36 PM

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ah, that explains it

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the server is expecting it to be sent as a javascript object

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i.e. var filter = JSON.parse(filterText); before sending filter

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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but what is a javascript object?

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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how to do that in c# I have no idea heh

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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ya

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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let me see if I can do some manipulation to check

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:40 PM

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idk i think the library could be broken

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:40 PM

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gimme 5min I think I can do a workaround

merry oracle Jun 13, 2016, 5:43 PM

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It's been a bit since I did JSON parsing in .NET, but I know there's tools in the framework for it.

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:44 PM

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oh there is

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and it works great

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but it converts between c# objects and strings

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and right now, i can't send either of those it seems

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 5:47 PM

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okay try again sending it as a string

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--> RECVD FILTER: /#n8UnupHnDGu0dY10AAAA (459a1da3-a005-4f25-a27c-2aaebfdea4e9) " [ { \"eq\" : { \"attributes.league\" : \"Standard\" } } ]"
-->  FILTER is a STRING, converting to Object...
-->  FILTER PASS: /#n8UnupHnDGu0dY10AAAA (459a1da3-a005-4f25-a27c-2aaebfdea4e9) ```

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you should get a heartbeat response like Connected with session id n8UnupHnDGu0dY10AAAA and pwxid 459a1da3-a005-4f25-a27c-2aaebfdea4e9 Received a heartbeat: You passed a string instead of an object. Attempting to parse this as an object anyway... Received a heartbeat: 1 Valid Filter(s) Accepted! Adding to monitoring queue.

merry oracle Jun 13, 2016, 5:58 PM

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From what I can see, it looks like @desert needle is expecting an object (not an array) or a string that can then be interpreted as JSON

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But the .NET library for socketIO seems to always send an array by design

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 5:59 PM

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@desert needle works now

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what'd you change?

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you just convert on the other side eh

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guess that works

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thanks for the workaround 😃

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:03 PM

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yep

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just added a typeof detection to see if it was a string and convert it to an object

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probably should've done that from day 1 but this is my first real project in node.js so didn't occur to me

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:55 PM

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@desert needle do you know anything about the stale items in your index?

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there've been multiple times where the cheapest item that's validated=YES is not even listed on poe.trade

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there was a 2ex carcass jack for over a day while the cheapest on poe.trade was 2.2ex

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:56 PM

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there shouldn't be any stales unless there's a bug of some sort

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:56 PM

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well that's what i'm suspicious of

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:56 PM

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I'd need some specific items to look at.

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:56 PM

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hmm ok

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let me see if i can find something

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:57 PM

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could be poe.trade doesn't have it, could be a bug on my side, could be something else

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:57 PM

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well the reason i think it's on your side is because the price was outrageous

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:57 PM

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there would have to be some new thing the stash tab api is doing that I'm not aware of

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:57 PM

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like 10c for a Reach of the Council

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and it was there for hours

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:58 PM

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that doesn't necessarily mean anything except that the guy logged off or ignored tells

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:58 PM

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hmmm

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didn't think about online status

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:58 PM

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assuming you were doing on-line searches on poe.trade

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 6:58 PM

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ya i do

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is looking at verified=GONE the best way to tell if an item was sold?

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i know that also includes de-listed items, but is it the best we have?

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 6:59 PM

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there's no way to know if an item was sold, but yeah

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it means it was there and now isn't

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 7:00 PM

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alright, well i'll keep an eye open for oddly priced items and check offline items on poe.trade next time

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man price of shavs has crashed 😦

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 7:03 PM

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also if you were looking at this: http://exiletools.com/uniques/#/Prophecy/Reach of the Council Spine Bow/Past3Days

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there is either a bug in those queries or I made the decision to do something weird

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because the verified now price is appearing to be some sort of average over that time period

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or something else is wonky, 'cuz the cheapest I see right now is 200 chaos and 2.7ex

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might have to do some looking into that

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 7:06 PM

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what do you mean?

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it looks alright to me

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current low is 165c

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10% avg 1 day ago is 200c

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mm i forgot that's 80:1

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so 200c a day ago is 2.5ex

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current is 165c

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which is 2.48ex

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pretty darn close

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 7:09 PM

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oh, I just saw that if I did modified in the past week it said verified now: 2.0 exalt but I couldn't find anything listed at 2 exalts in the index

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that is currently available at least

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 8:38 PM

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fyi thanks to @heavy ether I tracked down a bug in the load balancer configuration that was making ~25% of new connections to the rtstashapi fail, woops.

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 8:39 PM

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wonder if that explains the "protocol violation" errors i was getting %25 of the time

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 8:39 PM

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yes

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xhr polling errors, at least

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 8:39 PM

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yep

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i saw those

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 8:39 PM

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yeah I had some noob level shit going on

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I changed the ports from 6001-6004 to 6000-6003 to match processes 0-3 but only updated the health check targets

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so any time a connection got routed to the server at 6003, which was up because it passed the health check, it was actually going to 6004, on which nothing was listening

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 8:41 PM

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lol wow it really was 25%

desert needle Jun 13, 2016, 8:41 PM

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yeah should've balanced out to about 1/4 requests

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but only new connections, wouldn't have affected on-going connections

merry oracle Jun 13, 2016, 8:43 PM

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Whoops

heavy ether Jun 13, 2016, 8:55 PM

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thanks to pete for fixing it and providing the service though, ultimately

wind garden Jun 13, 2016, 9:17 PM

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play....path of exile?

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we dont' actually play the game, we just write tools for other people who play the game

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:p

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but actually, I'm at work and I think @desert needle is away or the rest of the day

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he usually disappears around this time

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probably in a different part of the world than me

desert needle Jun 14, 2016, 2:13 PM

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I'm EST, generally work 10-5 and don't tend to be on discord at home ;x

wind garden Jun 14, 2016, 5:50 PM

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ah i see

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i'm PST

heavy ether Jun 14, 2016, 7:36 PM

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east coast #1

hard sleet Jun 15, 2016, 8:05 PM

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hey guys

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oh sorry im still figuring out how this works o.o

desert roost Jun 15, 2016, 8:06 PM

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You're in #tooldev-general atm, and saying hi is perfectly okay.

long sky Jun 15, 2016, 8:46 PM

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In case anyone's interested in wiki related news/drama https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4o9k3a/so_long_and_thanks_for_all_the_fish/

pseudo ocean Jun 15, 2016, 9:09 PM

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the feels

long sky Jun 15, 2016, 9:41 PM

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Yeah, sigh

tribal spruce Jun 15, 2016, 11:22 PM

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rip

mortal bone Jun 15, 2016, 11:38 PM

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Yeah, that sucks. It is kind of disappointing that a contract like that would be broken

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makes you really not want to sell out if they will just replace you with free work in the future

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 5:52 AM

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Yeah definitely, and the fact that they're going even more aggressive with ads bringing it down to Wikia's level

feral flame Jun 16, 2016, 8:05 AM

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Yeah, I had to block their ads because they would made my firefox crash

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 11:53 AM

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That's shitty

feral flame Jun 16, 2016, 11:57 AM

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Yeah, it happened in a computer in which I am forced to run an old version of firefox, but I don't think the scripts embedded in an advertisement should be so intrusive and resource intensive to make your browser crash in any case

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:02 PM

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Loading a wiki page has over 150 scripts that you can safely block

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That is nuts

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:02 PM

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it's like the NYT!

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:02 PM

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Lol

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:04 PM

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I just don't load the wiki since it started crashing my browser a couple weeks ago

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:05 PM

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I think ublock origin must do a good job with it, I haven't had any problems

merry oracle Jun 16, 2016, 8:05 PM

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same @desert needle

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:05 PM

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I'm using ublock and getting issues :<

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:05 PM

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A wiki should be simple with simple ads to support their cause. They shouldn't even be able to make money off of a open source type web site

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uBlock with the default script blockers works for me too

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:05 PM

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I get that sidebar thing but it doesn't hurt the formatting and could probably remove it

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crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:06 PM

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i manually blocked that sidebar

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:06 PM

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Same

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:06 PM

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Yeah that's what I see when it doesn't crash

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I'll need to look into it later

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:06 PM

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Yeah, you may have blocked an important script

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I did that at some point and it would crash

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:06 PM

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Likely

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:07 PM

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oh yeah that #siderail is easy to block

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:07 PM

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But it's not like anyone of us can make a better wiki

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:07 PM

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the content and overall stuff going on in that wiki is really really good, especially recently

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:08 PM

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can someone help me with some elasticsearch stuff? been wondering if i can make two queries i have here a single one

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:08 PM

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but it does suck that a random company is making money off volunteer stuff like that :/

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:08 PM

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Yes, the PyPoe guy does a wonderful job with the data mining

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:08 PM

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@crystal hamlet I can try

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:08 PM

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aight i'll explain and put the queries in a pastebin

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:09 PM

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That would be like me accepting money for the PoESkillTree.

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It isn't all my work, so I shouldn't be making money off of it

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:09 PM

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Imagine if you un-public'd it and started selling it for $10/pop! :x

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:10 PM

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The numbers are nice haha

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:10 PM

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okay so i've got one query that find the current sell offers for a specific currency pair in the exiletools index, and one that uses the data from that to get the total stock people have in their tabs at the time

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http://pastebin.com/n5sWEQd5

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:10 PM

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Peek times we get 50-80K unique views

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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thought it's a bit awkward to send a long list of account names to the second query

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Over the course of the normal couple weeks it is 20K

wind garden Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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is uBlock better than adblock plus?

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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I like it better

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Don't use plus. They sold out

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Plus allows certain ads

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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You can pay them to not have your ads blocked.

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:11 PM

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cere - um, whoah, it sounds like you might be way better off doing that with aggregations. Clarify the goal for me: You want to get a total amount of each currency item availalble for each seller?

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:12 PM

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i'm already using lots of aggregations

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i want to get the total amount of a currency that each seller has in their stash tab

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 8:12 PM

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@mortal bone unique views where?

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:12 PM

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regardless of whether they're listed for sale for the other currency

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:12 PM

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hrm

summer shuttle Jun 16, 2016, 8:13 PM

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Have you guys used POEMate? His iOS/Android tool is pretty top notch, and people have no problem upgrading for the perks. Maybe having something similar for POESkillTree? Not ad-block funded, but so that added functionality (weapon imports? poe.trade imports?) pay back the dev.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:13 PM

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and i can do that with those two queries, but it's a bit awkward

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:13 PM

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@chrome topaz github traffic

pseudo ocean Jun 16, 2016, 8:13 PM

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sorry, 40k of those are mine. you make good software

wind garden Jun 16, 2016, 8:13 PM

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who writes POEMate?

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:14 PM

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@summer shuttle that would be hard to keep track of

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@pseudo ocean unique :p only tracks users once with a couple caveats

summer shuttle Jun 16, 2016, 8:14 PM

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Evgheni Obrucicov (per Apple Store). Not sure where he's based out of.

wind garden Jun 16, 2016, 8:14 PM

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ah, haven't heard of him

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it is pretty nice though

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:15 PM

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@chrome topaz do you have stats that you are willing to share haha

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 8:15 PM

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not really

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:16 PM

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@desert needle - i guess i could do the first query without filtering for the asked currency, and then boil it down in aggregations. would that be a bad idea performance wise though?

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:16 PM

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@summer shuttle I usually use his since I'm generally planning a tree while outside. Absolutely love it and think it's fair to charge a small amount for extra features you don't really need for building out a skill tree.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:17 PM

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funnily enough, the poemate app has smoother scrolling through the tree than any other tree planner i've used

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:18 PM

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@chrome topaz ah, damn. I figured acquisition would be close to something I see

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:18 PM

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@crystal hamlet - http://pastebin.com/HamgBire this is an example with aggregations. You may have to increase the size. It will show you the total stack size and total number of slots of each currency type for each person with currency in their inventory

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example output { "key": "scorch428", "doc_count": 35, "currency": { "doc_count_error_upper_bound": 0, "sum_other_doc_count": 0, "buckets": [ { "key": "Jeweller's Orb", "doc_count": 7, "sumstack": { "value": 63 } }, { "key": "Cartographer's Chisel", "doc_count": 5, "sumstack": { "value": 15 } }, ....

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:20 PM

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thanks, let me try that

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just to clarify further - what i want at the end, is for each person "selling currency x for currency y and has z amount of x currency in stock in total"

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:20 PM

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you can get there with more filters at the beginning or go crazier with more nested aggregation buckets probably

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I mean, you can literally say show me totals of each currency for each seller at every value any seller is selling them for / etc.

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generally anything other than specific information about documents can almost always be done with aggregations

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ask Retik, he spent a few hours last week nailing up some insane shit 😉

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:23 PM

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i'll probably end up spending a few more hours finalizing this stuff. at the end i want to have the same kind of data that you get on the poe.trade currency section, except from your index so i can do more stuff based on that

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:23 PM

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nod, a fair bit should be possible

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I think poe.trade does have a lot more currency data though, I'm not sure how much of it comes just from stash tabs

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:24 PM

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yeah some people still enter it manually

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but that's fine

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:24 PM

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seems like generally stash tab usage for selling currency is pretty low

wind garden Jun 16, 2016, 8:24 PM

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you can see on currency.poe.trade which ones are stash api

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:24 PM

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yup

wind garden Jun 16, 2016, 8:24 PM

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and it's not many

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:25 PM

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can't figure out why tbh

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it's so much better if you use the api, and i actually never buy from the ones who aren't from the api

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and if i list stuff through the API i notice people buy from me even though i'm mostly not the best offer available

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figured that's because they see how much currency i have in stock

woeful sphinx Jun 16, 2016, 8:27 PM

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It's also probably much easier to set up fake listings not through the api

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:27 PM

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I don't do enough (any really) currency trading to see the behavior there. I imagine there's some level of worry that people might be flippers with fake rates up if they can't "see" the truth.

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:28 PM

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You can just have a tab solely for setting prices in that case. It's what I did in Perandus: 4 tabs for setting prices, one for normal currency holding, three for coins.

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So you could still hide the amounts if you want to.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:28 PM

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quite often i will just put some chaos and alch in my sell tab and do stuff like list the alchs at 2.7:1c and the chaos at 1:3.2alch

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and just let my currency make me money on the side

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:33 PM

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I really wish they'd just get rid of having to scrape the forum also. It defeats the point of having an api.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:33 PM

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if they do that they're gonna have to provide an alternative for people without premium tabs

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:34 PM

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No problems with that here. Or at least having forum prices in an api.

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:36 PM

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I'm hoping that at some point they'll make some premium tab features available to all players.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:36 PM

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me too

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:36 PM

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but then, there are still people who have (legitimate, I guess) reasons for preferring using inventory management tools

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:36 PM

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they could still use those though, right?

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:36 PM

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but either way there are a TON of premium tabs, so they're obviously working and making money

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:37 PM

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i mean yeah not for listing trades

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but for the inventory management stuff

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:37 PM

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inventory management tools do give you a lot more power over pricing

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but that is all stuff that could potentially be built into the stash tabs

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:38 PM

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The problem is as long as you can't get all priced items via an api, you still need to scrape the forum like before in addition to a new system. Which feels extremely backwards to me.

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:40 PM

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The forum doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.

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GGG doesn't seem to care about it.

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They just can't seem to find a way to make it usable by any developer.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:41 PM

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for normal trades we're at like 80-90% stash tabs anyways, so i'm actually fine discarding the rest. just not for currency for some reason

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:41 PM

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I just pretend and hope that they won't fix that problem because they haven't decided when to kill it yet.

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everything about the forum is terrible

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:42 PM

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I think the only person that really still parses forums is @chrome topaz, but I am not sure how much info is actually gained from that

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Really the forums are just an easy way to update via acquisition since the updates are sent to the back end

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:43 PM

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I find people using the forum for currency especially confusing because you can't update your rates as quickly when people log on and off.

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:43 PM

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There's still some fair amount coming through the forums and acquisition, so poe.trade absolutely needs to index it.

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It's just not available to anyone else unfortunately.

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:44 PM

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i think most of the people listed on poe.trade who are not using the api are manually entering their stuff on poe.trade

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in the currency section

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you can manually enter offers directly on the page

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:46 PM

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Ahhh.

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:46 PM

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@desert needle @mortal bone it'd be supppppeeeer easy to copy the wiki

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Mediawiki comes with built in functionality for that sort of stuff

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:46 PM

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the tricky part would be to get a critical mass of users to switch to the new one i'd imagine

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:46 PM

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It's under a creative commons license too

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Yup, that's the biggest challenge

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 8:47 PM

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so the new one actually stays more relevant than the old one then

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:47 PM

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I still own pathofexilewiki.net and org

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:48 PM

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Yeah, but the curse wiki is now the official wiki

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There is no switching at this point

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:48 PM

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I'm sure that's a conversation Chris might be open to having tbh

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Particularly if the community talks openly and rationally abouy it

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:49 PM

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one "good" thing about Curse hosting it is that they aren't going to up and leave at any point

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:49 PM

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Whether it's official or not doesn't really matter. If people who update it often go somewhere else, then people who want to use it will follow. So the question is just if you can keep a different one more updated or not.

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:49 PM

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Best case scenario is a wiki hosted by GGG and edited by community

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:49 PM

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^^ yes

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I would offer to host a free player wiki, for example, but I can't be sure that I won't get bored with poe and stop hosting free poe stuff in a year or something

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:50 PM

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Wouldn't want the data to be given tk the community by GGG to be honest

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:50 PM

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How much are your hosting costs anyway

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:51 PM

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But stuff like the guild war wikis, tf2, etc work really well

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:51 PM

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I am assuming they would be between $10-50 a month depending on your load

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It would be cool of we could get a wiki that was hosted by GGG, but they may have some deal with curse for promotions or something

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:53 PM

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I was expecting a couple hundred per month. And yeah they likely do given the curse bundle and Prophecy preview.

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:54 PM

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There's no deal AFAIK

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Previews are same they do with any press site

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I wrote a couple of them pre-prophecy

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:56 PM

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Ah, ok. It would be nice if there wasn't an individual actually profiting from community work

#

That seems really shady to me

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:57 PM

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To be fair that was me for a long time

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:58 PM

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But you also contributed your time and effort

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This is a third party company that is gaining profit from a community trying to help each other

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 8:59 PM

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Yeah, true

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 8:59 PM

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Hundreds of communities

desert needle Jun 16, 2016, 8:59 PM

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reminds me of huffingtonpost

loud umbra Jun 16, 2016, 8:59 PM

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@iamacyborg#5413 I wouldn't expect them to create bad relations with curse by switching what they deem the official wiki, though. At the same time not like official means anything.

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 9:00 PM

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At least Huffington pays their writers...sometimes haha

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 9:02 PM

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I do know most Curse contractors get paid an insanely low amount

crystal hamlet Jun 16, 2016, 9:02 PM

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to be fair, it's not really official

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as official as a link named "community wiki" on the page is

tribal spruce Jun 16, 2016, 9:04 PM

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its not horrible curse hosts it and makes money the problem is Cuse Sucks

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 9:05 PM

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I don't really like the idea of a company making money of a community they're not engaged with and that they don't care about

tribal spruce Jun 16, 2016, 9:08 PM

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^

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that also i guess

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 9:08 PM

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Anyway yeah, transferring the wiki would be fairly simple

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Mediawiki comes with import/export functionality

summer shuttle Jun 16, 2016, 9:17 PM

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Has anyone here approached Chris on hosting a Wiki? Ideally, they'd just fund it and make sure it doesn't fall apart. The same community would maintain it (as iama said, Mediawiki is pretty easy to set up).

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 9:18 PM

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I've got him on Skype so could try

tribal spruce Jun 16, 2016, 9:18 PM

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do eet

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but if we do get a new wiki it better look good or else

long sky Jun 16, 2016, 9:21 PM

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It'd be the same, just no ads

tribal spruce Jun 16, 2016, 9:22 PM

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adblock

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just turn it off for good websights

feral flame Jun 16, 2016, 9:32 PM

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Other games have taken control of unofficial wikis by turning them into officially sponsored ones, yep, something like that would be great

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:18 PM

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@mortal bone https://api.github.com/repos/xyzz/acquisition/releases ctrl+f download_count

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:19 PM

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https://api.github.com/repos/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases

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The numbers are a bit different because of how you release I think. You do some little patches here and there when you release

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:22 PM

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using forums for currency?

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I must be missing something, but at least currency.poe.trade doesn't use forums for currency

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:23 PM

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I didn't think so

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You still index forums for item though?

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:23 PM

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yeah

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most people just log into currency.poe.trade ("manage you shop") and list rates there, without using the stash tabs

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seems like pathofexile.wiki domain is available 😃

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:28 PM

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😄

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better scoop it up

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:28 PM

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who's gonna be the first to squat it

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<= not that guy

wind garden Jun 16, 2016, 10:28 PM

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i haven't really been following the conversation. Does the PoE wiki really need replacing?

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:28 PM

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$30

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ewww

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:29 PM

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you can see even on poe.com there's now a link to curse wiki

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so you gonna have a hard time competing with it i think

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game>community wiki

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:29 PM

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Yep, that is what I was saying earlier

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:29 PM

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and on the page it even says "official poe wiki" now

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so i suppose they have some sort of a deal with ggg

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:37 PM

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Oops! We don't currently offer .skilltree domains. 😦

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 10:40 PM

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no .tree tld either

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:40 PM

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I was kind of surprised about that too

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.sucks is there though >.>

minor charm Jun 16, 2016, 10:57 PM

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What framework is the Official PoE wiki using?

thin ingot Jun 16, 2016, 10:58 PM

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@mortal bone could do .build?

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 10:59 PM

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@minor charm gamepedia

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whatever they happen to run on

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@thin ingot .build not a tld either

thin ingot Jun 16, 2016, 11:11 PM

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Thought it was? my bad.

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 11:14 PM

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mediawiki of course

minor charm Jun 16, 2016, 11:22 PM

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hmm ok

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poe.moe has someone sitting on it 😦

mortal bone Jun 16, 2016, 11:23 PM

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why .moe?

minor charm Jun 16, 2016, 11:27 PM

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sounds nice like poe.xyz

chrome topaz Jun 16, 2016, 11:58 PM

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+1

mortal bone Jun 17, 2016, 12:31 AM

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Ah

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@chrome topaz why did you end up changing to poe.trade?

crystal hamlet Jun 17, 2016, 12:45 AM

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my ES query from earlier does what it should now 😃

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it's actually pretty neat now, i get results like this:

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http://pastebin.com/raw/bTJENsXu

crystal hamlet Jun 17, 2016, 12:08 PM

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there's a .rip tld by the way lmao

void wolf Jun 17, 2016, 12:11 PM

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btw

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http://faqs.build/

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.build not a tld either

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 12:53 PM

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@mortal bone it looks nice and easy to remember

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 1:29 PM

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It was interesting during that name shift to see how people reacted, how many people insisted on continuing to use poe.xyz like it gave them more street cred or something.

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I think poe.trade was a really smart choice though.

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man I really wish GGG gave us an easy way to authenticate accounts with third party sites

crystal hamlet Jun 17, 2016, 3:48 PM

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yea

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they should implement oauth or something

mortal bone Jun 17, 2016, 4:12 PM

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Maybe we can get @compact isle to bring this up? Some sort of third party authentication.

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 4:16 PM

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hahahahahahahahaha

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probably around 10 people need this feature

mortal bone Jun 17, 2016, 4:36 PM

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It doesn't matter about who 'need' this feature. It brings peace of mind the user because they don't need to login with username/password.

woeful sphinx Jun 17, 2016, 4:40 PM

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It would also make all the workarounds (using the session cookie, using the official pm system, opening a browser page and copying the contents, ...) unnecessary.

crystal hamlet Jun 17, 2016, 4:42 PM

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yeah, the way that authenticating "set online" links for poe.trade currently works could be made much simpler with this

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you could say that 10 people need it (the ~10 tool devs) but loads of people would use it and benefit from it

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 5:22 PM

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yeah. that's never happening

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it took them over a year I think to fix the official documented leagues API

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it's clear they don't care that much

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 5:43 PM

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it would also make setting up poe.trade accounts easier, and allow third party systems like seller reviews/etc. I realize it's very unlikely, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't dream IMO 😉

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I was thinking of it again specifically in regards to some posts about master crafting scamming, and how a third party site that allowed real reviews of services like that (or lab running/etc.) would be helpful

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but making everyone send a message to someone to get an account id on the forums is clumsy for such things

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I think the message I sent to xyz for poe.trade years ago is the only pm I've sent on the forums heh

loud umbra Jun 17, 2016, 5:46 PM

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How would you prevent fake reviews, however. Or people using extortion tactics.

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 5:46 PM

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by tying it to an actual pathofexile account with associated reputation you can certainly reduce the fake content

loud umbra Jun 17, 2016, 5:47 PM

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I mean you can make as many accounts as you want. I guess you can adjust the value of someone's ratings based on account age, highest level, et cetera though.

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 5:49 PM

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yep

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 6:35 PM

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bad idea imo

crystal hamlet Jun 17, 2016, 6:45 PM

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not a fan of reputation systems that aren't based on verified purchases

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but the authentication thing would still be great

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 7:41 PM

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that feels when someone starts DDOS'ing your free tool 😦

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then you block the 10 IP's doing it and it goes like

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guess I need to actually get off my ass and configure some front end rate limiting

hexed wasp Jun 17, 2016, 8:03 PM

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People are shit.

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 8:06 PM

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it might even have just been a few complete idiots rather than someone doing it on purpose, but the logs show they were basically making 10-20 of the same request at a time over and over again

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the fact that it was around 10 IP's making the exact same "useless" requests repeatedly and those requests were getting blocked by the API Gateway makes it extra suspicious though, basically used up all the connections on the API Gateway web server

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got rate limiting in place now though, so there's that

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 8:07 PM

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somebody forgot a sleep call

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 8:08 PM

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haha

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it's possible someone accidentally multi-threaded the same calls without a sleep and gave it to their friends as a cool tool but were not noticing they kept getting api errors 😉

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 8:08 PM

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I had to block amazon aws and a few /24 networks

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 8:09 PM

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the first time I made the index available publicly I had a few people trying to literally download the entire index every few minutes, was bonkers

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oof, yeah, not much reason for AWS to be looking at your stuff

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when I hosted exilebro people tried to DOS that shit all the time, I was kinda glad when he turned it off

chrome topaz Jun 17, 2016, 8:10 PM

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dos how?

desert needle Jun 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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there was a poorly coded search that you could run to list all of the available currency trades just by submitting a form, and I'd see a bunch of IP's re-submitting that form 20-30x a second every couple of weeks

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I'd get an alert that the CPU usage on the box was maxed out and log on and see the database going crazy, then see logs full of that. Ban those IP's, then a few days later it'd come from somewhere else, like someone had a script.

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rate limiting is an obvious no-brainer, dunno why I never bother with it

compact isle Jun 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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eh, oauth would be pretty cool

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I don't think we have enough publically supported api's at the moment (proper ones) to make it worth it though

crystal hamlet Jun 17, 2016, 9:13 PM

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is the main reason to do it actually just APIs though? I see the benefit more in authenticating players on third party sites like poe.trade etc

compact isle Jun 17, 2016, 9:48 PM

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that's true

wind garden Jun 18, 2016, 6:34 AM

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is @desert needle around?

crystal hamlet Jun 18, 2016, 6:23 PM

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yay, so i've got a small library now that can generate data for market depth charts based on any currency pair

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auto-detecting suitable ranges is proving a bit tricky though

wind garden Jun 19, 2016, 3:40 AM

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dang, did everything go up in price?

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seems everyting is expensive tonight

loud umbra Jun 19, 2016, 3:41 AM

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Usually fewer people on on Saturdays from what I've seen

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So that might impact things.

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During Perandus I'd get very few sales on Saturdays. Most of my sales were around midnight EDT weekdays or all day Sunday.

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Though are you looking at specific things?

minor charm Jun 20, 2016, 3:15 AM

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Are you developing in VS for C# dev?

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or mono/linux?

crystal hamlet Jun 20, 2016, 11:12 AM

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who

wind garden Jun 20, 2016, 4:50 PM

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lol

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who was @minor charm talking to?

pseudo ocean Jun 20, 2016, 6:29 PM

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i'm guessing he Emmitt

minor charm Jun 20, 2016, 11:40 PM

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bad phrasing sorry... more of a general question to see what people are using...

pseudo ocean Jun 20, 2016, 11:52 PM

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it is ok ^^ i'm using Node mostly but ran into a wall in terms of bug fixing and haven't touched it in a month

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touched the code in a month*

jade kayak Jun 21, 2016, 12:04 AM

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emmit i like the update feature in your planner 😄

golden zealot Jun 21, 2016, 12:26 AM

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debugging js is terrible :~(

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though im told from people who know better than i that it can be done if you figure it out

crystal hamlet Jun 21, 2016, 12:32 AM

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debugging node isn't hard to do

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is it direct node or transpiled

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you can just run the script with "node-debug ...." instead

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that starts a local web server with a debugging interface

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which you simply open in your browser

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to get the node-debug command you need to install node-inspector globally

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just an npm package

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if you have transpiled ES6 it gets a bit more complicated but should still work if you have source maps set up properly

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or you use something like webstorm which has the whole debugging thing integrated

minor charm Jun 21, 2016, 12:51 AM

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the integrated debugger is very nice. I use it in phpstorm

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 3:27 PM

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that change to currency pricing going away when you modify the stack was really bizarre

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someone at GGG must've thought that people priced stacks of currency by the stack size, which isn't right according to http://poe.trade/html/currency-stash-tabs.html

merry oracle Jun 22, 2016, 3:33 PM

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Yeah... I thought that was a very odd change on their part. I wonder if it's intended as more of a consistency thing where the note only persists if there's no change to the item in that inventory space

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 3:34 PM

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imagine if they were like "moving an item causes the note to be removed" :x

merry oracle Jun 22, 2016, 3:34 PM

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I would be just a bit annoyed if that were to show up in a patch note

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 3:35 PM

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I mean, I'm totally imagining this situation, but I can totally see it: "oh man, I wanted to sell this stack of 80 chaos for 1 exalt, but then I used some of the chaos and nobody was interested in giving me an exalt for 70 chaos because I didn't update my note, we should make it clear the notes whenever you change a stack"

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and everyone's like "yep, that totally makes sense" without realizing that's not the way we treat stacks, qq

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someone also mentioned in a thread, haven't confirmed, but that the same thing happens to Div Cards too

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though those probably aren't trade quite as often as currency

merry oracle Jun 22, 2016, 3:37 PM

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It makes sense that it would happen with Div Cards, as they seem to be handled very similarly to currency in most game systems.

pseudo ocean Jun 22, 2016, 6:03 PM

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i usually just go to currency.poe.trade and manually list it there

merry oracle Jun 22, 2016, 6:27 PM

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I use a public tab that's laid out like so:

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Stock on the left, single items to setting prices on the right

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 6:32 PM

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I have a currency tab for stock and then 3-5 tabs I set prices using that are organized by from/to currency and placed in a layout matching the currency tab.

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 7:34 PM

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the problem with using a premium tab like that is that it doesn't properly link the price to the stack, so we don't know quantity, and if you have two stacks with different prices we don't know reality

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the ideal trading method for currency traders would be to just use a public currency tab imo

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 7:37 PM

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Two problems with that: 1) You can't put more than one price on a stack, which is a problem if you want to price a currency in 8 other currencies. 2) a currency tab can only hold 5k of a currency in a stack.

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The data is still all in public tabs and can be aggregated into separate "number of currency" and "prices of currencyA:currencyB"

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 7:39 PM

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interesting

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 7:39 PM

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If someone puts two prices for currency A:B then that's obviously user error, so just pick the highest or lowest.

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 7:40 PM

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I think I'd have to write an entirely new set of tools to monitor currency in stash tab api's to try to derive all that data if I wanted to track it historically

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it's clearly not as simple as "there are 400 exalts listed at 70c, 300 at 72c, etc."

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 7:41 PM

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The stack size limit was a major issue for me last league. Had three tabs just for coins.

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 7:44 PM

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yeah, it seems like ultimately if indexers could support multiple currency asks that might be the most interesting solution

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like sometimes I want fuses or vaal orbs for something but don't want chaos, would be nice to be able to post either/or

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 7:46 PM

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On that last one: you mean currency conversions? Or for pricing gear?

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 7:54 PM

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both

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either

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~b/o 4 fuse | 3 vaal for example, sends the message I want either fuse or vaal and don't want chaos/etc.

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with premium tabs it could be easier to add more complex notes like that if GGG supported it

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then again, I really really wanted them to add actual metadata tags for the note and they didn't want to :/

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would have loved json data like currency: Chaos Orb, amount: 5

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 8:00 PM

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For something like that you encounter the problem of you have to add all of your alternate prices individually on every item.

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 8:03 PM

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agreed, but it's also one of those things that if you really want to do it, it's not a big bother 😃

loud umbra Jun 22, 2016, 8:08 PM

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I miss being able to have extra details on a shop that everyone would read. Can specify accepted currencies, conversion rates or additional conversion fees over current market rates.

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Would love to at least have some way to have some account-level info that could be displayed or linked to by trade sites.

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 8:19 PM

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yeah there's some very interesting stuff that could potentially be done, but whether or not it's worth it in the long run... seems like GGG has mostly decided not, which I'm sure isn't wrong

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 9:06 PM

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for shits and giggles: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ij0qj0CKCN6n_7p81Sa4-dGPJyrSrtRY0w6MYrDlDbs/edit?usp=sharing

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was kinda surprised at the overall scarcity of regal orbs

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guess people really aren't doing the regal recipe or trying to sell them

solid whale Jun 22, 2016, 9:10 PM

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those numbers are amount that went through poe.trade or is it current standing in the league ?

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 9:11 PM

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oh, crap, I forgot to add a verified filter

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that was supposed to be the total amounts of those currency types available right now via the stash tab api in stashes that have been updated in the last 7 days

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but the numbers are slightly off because it will include, for example, mirrors that have been sold. woops. Will fix it tomorrow.

solid whale Jun 22, 2016, 9:12 PM

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albino rhoa is still a thing ?

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 9:12 PM

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apparently so! and they're more common than mirrors as far as current player trade stock

solid whale Jun 22, 2016, 9:13 PM

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it's for fishing right ?

desert needle Jun 22, 2016, 9:13 PM

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I think it's just for feeling good.

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wow holy shit the numbers change drastically just looking at actually available items

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only 51k chaos orbs available right now

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and only 1k exalteds

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damn that's a lot of exalts sold

solid whale Jun 22, 2016, 9:14 PM

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yeah

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the currency exhange rate is quite horrible atm

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70c for 1 ex

delicate ore Jun 23, 2016, 11:54 PM

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is there anyone fluent in Lua here?

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38003511/how-do-i-make-my-events-fire-only-once-if-true-rather-than-for-every-update-iter

chrome topaz Jun 24, 2016, 12:33 AM

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sounds like a case of https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/66377/what-is-the-xy-problem rephrase the question and maybe somebody could help

delicate ore Jun 24, 2016, 12:48 AM

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i should have put it in pseudocode to begin with, thank you

merry oracle Jun 24, 2016, 1:11 PM

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@delicate ore You could rewrite your processEvents method like so:

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function processEvents ()
    for _, event in pairs(events) do
        for _, condition in pairs(event.conditions) do
            if not event.triggered  or condition() then
                event.triggered = true;
                event.callback()
                break
            elseif not condition()
                event.triggered = false;
                break
            end
        end
    end
end

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That would only allow an event to be triggered if it was not previously triggered, and only resets the trigger once the condition is no longer met

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Although you'll run into issues with multiple conditions, which I didn't take into account.

delicate ore Jun 24, 2016, 2:34 PM

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thank you, a variant of that is what i'm using

pine coral Jun 25, 2016, 8:25 PM

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So I'm playing with some PoE related code in WPF around items. Subscribing to the clipboard for Ctrl-C copies of items requires a good old classic WndProc handler via interop. Trying to make that a clean library is hilarious, because it requires a window handle to work, either forms or through WPF interop stuff. It makes for a great nostalgia adventure... 😃

dire plover Jun 26, 2016, 4:21 AM

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Anyone have any relevant experience for implementing OBS plug-ins? I have one that I'd like to either commission or do myself (if there's a scripting implementation or something??)... it would be an automatic Labyrinth tracker based off the client log file for changing zones, and would start a timer on zone in with a hotkey to stop the timer when Izaro is killed. It would also increment through images every zone-in so that you would have a dynamically updating map on screen during the stream. I would do the map images manually every day, so basically just need something that can parse the log file and rename images.

mortal bone Jun 26, 2016, 5:47 PM

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You wouldn't know what mob was izaro

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Iirc mob ids are written to the log file and not names

pine coral Jun 26, 2016, 8:36 PM

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Hrm.. he did mention a hotkey to stop the timer.

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Does it have to be an OBS plugin? I can see a general app for this possibly being more useful, and OBS should be able to take a window capture pretty easily, right?

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Just for timers, there are existing tools: http://www.speedrunslive.com/tools/

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But I like the image integration, I assume you mean each lab area map gets a picture, so it updates your 'current' location, and includes times.

compact isle Jun 29, 2016, 7:28 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4qe4ve/small_chat_changes/

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this should also affect the chat entries in the Client.txt log btw

chrome topaz Jun 29, 2016, 9:24 AM

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can we have a screenshot?

desert needle Jun 29, 2016, 2:03 PM

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omg novynn I hope that also means that other entries in that log will have timestamps 😮 a whole new world of chat log datamining

mortal bone Jun 29, 2016, 9:39 PM

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You mean you could tell when people messaged you?!

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Like a sane chat system lol

pseudo ocean Jun 29, 2016, 10:16 PM

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i love it when i switch chars and hear the PING noise and miss the msg

compact isle Jun 29, 2016, 11:00 PM

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@desert needle don't entries in the logs already have timestamps? o.o

compact isle Jun 30, 2016, 12:12 AM

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@chrome topaz I'll get you a screenshot once it's implemented!

compact isle Jun 30, 2016, 3:17 AM

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Whisper Message Log Format:

@From username: message```

With Guild:
```@From <guild> username: message```

Last updated 2016/07/01

pseudo ocean Jun 30, 2016, 5:24 PM

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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but somebody made a tool that I found in here but can't find a download link of. It was a tool to see what items you could/should flip in PoE. IIRC, the title literally was "what items to flip". I hope that somebody can tell me/point me in the right direction. Thanks 😃

old beacon Jun 30, 2016, 9:05 PM

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WhatToFlip?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4neh57/tool_whattoflip_item_price_statistics_aggregator/

red wing Jun 30, 2016, 9:16 PM

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w00t

timid crest Jun 30, 2016, 10:03 PM

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hmm i kinda want to make a tool that scans through a tab with currency and tells how much chaos/exalt equiv there is

old beacon Jun 30, 2016, 10:06 PM

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doesn't procurement do that?

timid crest Jun 30, 2016, 10:07 PM

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eh i guess. never used it

old beacon Jun 30, 2016, 10:22 PM

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it was one of the old free ones, i havent used it personally but ive seen people use that function before from one of the old forum trading apps

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it was basically a spreadsheet that would fill in your currency and then you set the ratios, so it was slightly better than a straight up excel spreadsheet

timid crest Jun 30, 2016, 10:28 PM

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i just want to, let's say, press F8 (screenshot) and get some kind of report for current tab

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to better evaluate how much i farm an hour/session

compact isle Jul 1, 2016, 1:15 AM

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acquisition plus can track currency over time

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as your total worth though

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I guess if you told it to ignore certain tabs then you could do what you want

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:23 AM

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Pathofexilewiki.net/w

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Proof of concept

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Still needs full image import

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And page data is pre-prophecy

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:24 AM

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Ouch, that white background just blinded my retinas.

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Would be happy to switch from Curse though.

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:32 AM

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I just need to rename a css file to fix that

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:32 AM

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Its just a nitpick. As a proof of concept, its perfect.

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Ideally, GGG would pick it up, but that's being pretty optimistic.

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:33 AM

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I don't hibk they're interested

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Think*

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I'm going to put a post together on Medium explaining how to export sites of GP and Wikia

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Off*

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:38 AM

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How would that work with the GP's current content license regarding distribution? Just put a note at the bottom stating that all old data past a certain date is from the GP wiki?

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:46 AM

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Yup

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Probably don't even need to do that, maybe just a note on an about page

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:48 AM

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Speaking of the wiki, iirc, you were going to ask Chris over skype about hosting the wiki

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I'm assuming he didn't get back to you on that, since you said you don't think they're interested

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:53 AM

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I did speak to him about it, he said he'd raise it internally

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But I've not heard back since

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:53 AM

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That's a pity.

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I understand their desire to have a lot of mechanics be unknown and left to discovery, and hosting a wiki that explains all those mechanics in details probably detracts from that whole experience, but, I wonder exactly how much that detracts from the actual game.

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:56 AM

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Yeah, though I don't think that would change

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I doubt GGG would have direct data feeds into the wiki

old beacon Jul 1, 2016, 8:58 AM

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i don't feel like they're leaning on hiding mechanics as heavily nowadays with the mechanics Q&A thread they're hosting now

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:58 AM

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Not necessarily hiding mechanics, but hiding stuff like vendor recipes

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:58 AM

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Oh I highly doubt that too, but after experiencing the convenience of the Guild Wars 1/2 wiki where mechanics were explained, and numbers were there in plain sight, the whole "find out for yourself" is a little hard when there's literally no hard numbers.

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Like minion data for example.

long sky Jul 1, 2016, 8:59 AM

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Yeah for sure

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:59 AM

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I do applaud the new Q&A thread though, I'd say its a step in the right direction.

old beacon Jul 1, 2016, 8:59 AM

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minion data is something that i can't understand them hiding

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i think they're embarrased with the skeleton mage dps

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 8:59 AM

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Lol. What dps?

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;)

old beacon Jul 1, 2016, 9:00 AM

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i'm frothing yo

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thats probably the worst build ive ever made

desert roost Jul 1, 2016, 9:00 AM

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Hard to optimize when I have no numbers for reference.

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There is no dps tooltip.

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What is it?

minor hamlet Jul 2, 2016, 1:37 AM

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Optimize by clear speed, not by tooltip

desert roost Jul 2, 2016, 1:40 AM

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Lightning damage has such a large spread, its hard to get a stable speed.

frosty obsidian Jul 4, 2016, 5:30 AM

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do most ppl use a loot filter for poe?

desert roost Jul 4, 2016, 5:34 AM

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Yes.

frosty obsidian Jul 4, 2016, 5:35 AM

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its not against ggg tos?

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and is there a good one?

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that people use?

ebon oasis Jul 4, 2016, 5:36 AM

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its a feature implemented by ggg so i doubt its against the tos

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and there are a lot of good ones, depends on prefrence

frosty obsidian Jul 4, 2016, 5:37 AM

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o they implemented it? is there an 'official' filter?

ebon oasis Jul 4, 2016, 5:37 AM

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the 'official' filter is default game setting :)

frosty obsidian Jul 4, 2016, 5:39 AM

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o lol

loud umbra Jul 4, 2016, 5:40 AM

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How it works is you download a .filter file to your My Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/ folder. Then whiile the game is running you go to the Options menu, scroll down to the bottom of the UI tab, and select what .filter file to use.

frosty obsidian Jul 4, 2016, 6:16 AM

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where do I get the .filter files?

desert roost Jul 4, 2016, 6:18 AM

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Look up a loot filter

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1246208

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Here's an example of a popular loot filter.

frosty obsidian Jul 4, 2016, 6:31 AM

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ty

unique onyx Jul 4, 2016, 8:02 AM

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?

quasi mauve Jul 4, 2016, 6:15 PM

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Someone can explain me how to avoid lab error all the time? (I have a good PC)

near gate Jul 4, 2016, 11:21 PM

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Anyone know how to search for offering to the goddess unique maps on exiletrade?

pseudo ocean Jul 5, 2016, 3:58 PM

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Doesn't seem like exiletra.de recognizes Offering of the Goddess; sorry.

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Lab errors happen about 1 in 20-30 runs for me. Never found a solution.

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Came here to let @desert needle know that everytime I access http://http://api.exiletools.com/uniques/ , I get a "too many requests" on initial load. Tried on 3 PCs. I refresh in about a minute and it works, but the leagues are loaded with one button that says {{key}} . I refresh the page AGAIN to get the league names. Not important since the tool works as is, but thought I'd let you know 😃 been offering the link to people who ask for price checks often

desert needle Jul 6, 2016, 3:16 PM

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@pseudo ocean might be hitting API key limits

misty merlin Jul 6, 2016, 4:42 PM

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@near gate exiletra.de does support offering to the goddess but since we are using the exiletools indexer we will have to wait until this is resolved https://github.com/trackpete/exiletools-indexer/issues/152

desert needle Jul 7, 2016, 7:56 PM

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For those of you who may be interested, I have removed all authorization / api key requirements from the ExileTools ES Index.

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that includes request limits/etc., though there is now per-second rate throttling

pseudo ocean Jul 8, 2016, 10:28 PM

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Is there any way to add uniques in the offline skill tree planner? Without having to link profiles or stashes?

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Also, in the offline skill tree planner, I can't seem to see the "Offenses" summery tab under the "Character Sheet" - its always blank.

woeful sphinx Jul 8, 2016, 10:45 PM

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No, uniques are currently not possible to craft. You have to import stashes containing them. The "Offenses" tab is probably empty because you have not imported an inventory with items containing skill gems. Selecting skills yourself is also not possible atm.

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There are a lot of fixes and improvements to the equipment stuff on the way, but unique crafting and skill selection is not done yet and not planned for the near future.

pseudo ocean Jul 8, 2016, 10:48 PM

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Good to know. Kind of a bummer I can't build for a unique I don't own yet.

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Also is there any mod or tool to hide health and mana orbs in the game's HUD? Or one that let's you change the color of your overhead healthbar to red from green.

woeful sphinx Jul 8, 2016, 11:09 PM

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Kind of hacky, but you could import the inventory of someone with a public profile and the unique you want as a stash tab and use the item from there.

tropic breach Jul 9, 2016, 1:05 AM

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@desert needle hey Pete, you there?

analog orbit Jul 9, 2016, 8:43 AM

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exiletrade can now use GGG's online API:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602257/page/4/#p13477177

red wing Jul 9, 2016, 8:54 AM

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I am trying to search for "amulet addcurse". It hangs unless I choose offline.

analog orbit Jul 9, 2016, 9:51 AM

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yeah getting 403

distant heath Jul 10, 2016, 12:19 AM

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what do people use for generating loot filters? I remember seeing posts about tools that could do this, but I couldn't find one

desert roost Jul 10, 2016, 12:35 AM

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@distant heath This might help you visualize: http://bschug.github.io/poedit/poedit.html#Af00CbhA

distant heath Jul 10, 2016, 12:35 AM

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thanks

jaunty topaz Jul 10, 2016, 5:03 AM

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Exiletra.de should incorporate an average/mean price for items

old beacon Jul 10, 2016, 5:31 AM

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maybe if they excluded below 5% and above 95%, because someone could fuck the mean/average with 99mirror prices

jaunty topaz Jul 10, 2016, 5:32 AM

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yeah

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That an the ability to paste in an item and view pricing of items with the same affixes

old beacon Jul 10, 2016, 5:34 AM

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that one might not be possible

jaunty topaz Jul 10, 2016, 5:35 AM

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It's doable, I just haven't had a moment to see how the data is being proceessed

old beacon Jul 10, 2016, 5:36 AM

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oh i misread your comment, i thought you meant averages instead of actual prices

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actual prices might be nice

golden zealot Jul 10, 2016, 12:27 PM

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@distant heath people use filtration

tropic breach Jul 11, 2016, 9:48 AM

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somebody just ran a query on our DB, running an EXPLAIN to it shows that it scans:
1,582,023,341,361 rows

red wing Jul 11, 2016, 9:59 AM

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Can the person explain why he did that? :>

desert needle Jul 11, 2016, 1:24 PM

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percentiles are super easy in ElasticSearch fyi

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also if anyone is curious I'm working on (very lazily) a decoding service to reformat clipboard text into ExileTools ES JSON format: https://github.com/trackpete/exiletools-indexer/issues/147 once complete, that would allow the ability to paste an item and view similar items

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I started writing it with node so it would hopefully be easier for other people to maintain/contribute/improve than all my perl code ;x

desert needle Jul 11, 2016, 2:20 PM

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@tropic breach fyi: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4s5t0j/exiletrade_now_using_gggs_api_for_checking/d57vbqs you should probably add timeout detection to exiletra.de so people don't get endless spinners as complained about in that thread

old beacon Jul 11, 2016, 2:59 PM

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@desert needle thank you for the similar search, would you be able to configure it to auto-remove certain affixes like thorns?

desert needle Jul 11, 2016, 3:28 PM

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the initial plan is just to have it be a re-formatting service

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then people will need to implement logic around that, deciding if they want to ignore various mods, treat them differently, etc.

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but tbh I wouldn't put too much hope in a "similar rare" search

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you can see it by doing it on poe.trade, accuracy is VERY low

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there just aren't that many items that have all the same/similar stats

old beacon Jul 11, 2016, 3:33 PM

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yeah thats what i thought might be an issue, the high variance and relatively low amount of items in flux (low in comparison to an amount created by 10x or 50x the current playerbase, like D3 had)

frosty obsidian Jul 12, 2016, 2:57 AM

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hey guys, what's everyone's favorite loot filter?

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I'm more interested in a filter by type than rarity fwiw

desert roost Jul 12, 2016, 3:01 AM

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I like Neversink's

frosty obsidian Jul 12, 2016, 3:02 AM

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is there a Neverlink?

desert roost Jul 12, 2016, 3:04 AM

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1246208

frosty obsidian Jul 12, 2016, 3:04 AM

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ty

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o nice

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I recognize those colors from yt videos

desert roost Jul 12, 2016, 3:07 AM

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Neversink's is probably one of the most popular filters.

frosty obsidian Jul 12, 2016, 3:07 AM

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cool, tyvm

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I asked in general and nobody mentioned it lol

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soo

craggy kernel Jul 12, 2016, 5:59 AM

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lol neverlink

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n1

pseudo ocean Jul 12, 2016, 5:15 PM

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i googled "ziggyd loot filter" about a year ago and used it as a base, have edited it many times over

frozen moth Jul 13, 2016, 11:02 AM

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https://www.pathofexile.com/developer/docs/api-resources it only show some repository or is it all?

jaunty topaz Jul 13, 2016, 5:47 PM

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@frosty obsidian I made my own filter

pseudo ocean Jul 13, 2016, 6:31 PM

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@frozen moth Doesn't show everything. Take http://api.exiletools.com/info/official-passives.html for instance; this shows you how to download passive skills.

near gate Jul 13, 2016, 10:42 PM

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Would anyone be interested in the tools & techniques I've built up over time for Linux? I've found a combinations tools and built up a node library for executing macros. I've used it to integrate the unique price check API and will be adding support for the item data to JSON API to see information such as DPS.

frosty obsidian Jul 14, 2016, 7:46 AM

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@jaunty topaz is it available for dl?

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I'm liking neverlinks

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I didn't realize how many 6l and rgb whites drop

jaunty topaz Jul 14, 2016, 1:21 PM

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@frosty obsidian maybe once I get finished with my colour overhaul

pseudo ocean Jul 14, 2016, 6:03 PM

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@near gate yes please. i've hit a wall on every PoE app i'm trying to make

near gate Jul 15, 2016, 1:46 AM

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@pseudo ocean What wall have you been running into?

pulsar moat Jul 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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@chrome topaz Hey thanks for adding PvP season 2 alt arts to the alternate art list on .trade yesterday :)

compact isle Jul 20, 2016, 3:36 AM

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We've taken down the public stash api for a little bit

desert roost Jul 20, 2016, 3:40 AM

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Thanks for the heads up

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Indexers won't need to re-index will they?

compact isle Jul 20, 2016, 3:48 AM

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nah, just reducing load to track down another issue

compact isle Jul 20, 2016, 4:25 AM

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should be back up now!

desert roost Jul 20, 2016, 4:29 AM

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Thanks!

pulsar moat Jul 23, 2016, 1:43 AM

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Anyone care to clarify what "false" league is? :D
http://api.exiletools.com/uniques/#/false

pseudo ocean Jul 24, 2016, 5:02 AM

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is there anywhere a full list of loot filter functions like SetBorderColor and how they are used? Finished building a visual loot filter builder and want to double check if I missed any functions or created a wrong placeholder like PlayAlertSound [min] [max]

old beacon Jul 24, 2016, 5:07 AM

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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1260664

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only thread i know of

frosty obsidian Jul 24, 2016, 5:16 AM

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guys would it be possible to make a sort all feature?

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or a sort page script?

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to consolidate things across ur inventory?

desert roost Jul 24, 2016, 6:08 AM

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That kind of thing isn't allowed.

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A macro can at most do 1 action per button press.

mortal bone Jul 24, 2016, 3:35 PM

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Quick note on that picking up/setting an item down is a server action each, so you shouldn't really be messing with sorting. You could sort your inventory out of game then manually update it though

craggy kernel Jul 27, 2016, 8:53 PM

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baubles are grey now god bless neversink

trail echo Jul 27, 2016, 8:57 PM

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They finally updated their lootfilter? sweet.

half holly Jul 28, 2016, 9:38 AM

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not sure if it's just me. or my interent here but im seeing the poe website strangly

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📎 poe-website-bug.jpg

granite rose Jul 28, 2016, 9:40 AM

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I get this sometimes on my mobile when my internet is too slow.

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try ctrl+F5?

half holly Jul 28, 2016, 9:40 AM

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i tried. and it shows the same way in firefox

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we have like an 80mg up/down line at work

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im in south africa.. maybe it's like a restricted ip range or something?

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*throttled

granite rose Jul 28, 2016, 9:49 AM

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if you have internet on your mobile you could try it there

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maybe your workplace is blocking it

half holly Jul 28, 2016, 9:54 AM

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yeah. looks like my workplace or isp is blocking it or something

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works on my phone.

old beacon Jul 28, 2016, 10:17 AM

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was acting up for me also, same with some other sites. didn't seem to be related to GGG servers