1┃general

[frigid wedge]

bc u run doppel, glorious vanity keystone, master surgeon, good chaos res

and that basically makes every phys dot ignorable anyway

[short prairie]

Balbala

[bleak quiver]

lance cosplayer

[frigid wedge]

not balbala

[dusty mesa]

well dots are kinda the only issue with dex side

[short prairie]

Balbala is my fav I mean

[dusty mesa]

we get to bandaid it by giga juiced flask

[frigid wedge]

doppelganger+vanity+surgeon completely gets rid of that issue

[cobalt blade]

[dusty mesa]

this is starting to feel like a deathbeam build

[short prairie]

Bal

[sleek barn]

you mean poison pf

[frigid wedge]

pathfinder is kinda just the best way to mitigate permanent dots

esp when its phys

so ye

kinda

the ideal setup would probably be some whispers of infinity shit with khatals tho

[dusty mesa]

I think I can focus more on defense if I go poison because I'll just easily dot cap, but I honestly think I'll just make a slayer

[frigid wedge]

and u cant have both

[dusty mesa]

yea I already had a pf build and a khatal build

so I'll probably just not do that

my khatal build was fun though

[frigid wedge]

u can def skip out on both

the issue is building rage sustain on top of dot management

if ur happy to click vengeful cry and use normal ls sometimes too tho its not that bad

[dusty mesa]

I may hop in pob later just to see what I come up with

[short prairie]

Nothing

Cuz vls sucks

[dusty mesa]

yea but it looks fun not good

[crystal talon]

Abuse funny ring

[frigid wedge]

vls hasnt been buffed or nerfed since like crucible

ls has been nerfed

vls hasnt been touched

[dusty mesa]

are you just talking about Nimis

bc obv

[frigid wedge]

oh nvm

[dusty mesa]

its also only 20d rn

[frigid wedge]

had a lil bit off

nowhere near as bad as the actual ls nerf tho

[crystal talon]

Selfish shepherd

Nimis cringe ring

[frigid wedge]

they basically just undid the settlers buff to it

and left it a lil bonus

[short prairie]

Why u selfish

[sleek barn]

shelly sells shellfish

[rough field]

She sells sea shells

[dusty mesa]

oh to mitigate vaal temptation?

with giga regen

[rough field]

Now say it quicker

[frigid wedge]

maybe is vegan

[crystal talon]

Yeer

[frigid wedge]

yeah prevention duration still applies to the debuff

[crystal talon]

You can set up an AG to survive degen for like 50 minutes

[frigid wedge]

i mean

u can straight up just

[dusty mesa]

oh no do I have to make another AG

[frigid wedge]

not take any damage

this league

[crystal talon]

That got patched

[sleek barn]

so true

when i log out i don't take any damage

and then if i never log back in i just don't any damage for that duration of time

[frigid wedge]

with the turtle?

[sleek barn]

so infinite ehp

[split maple]

yea saturday evening patch

overtime

[frigid wedge]

thats bullshit

the entire thing was them not checking numbers

it wasnt a bug

thats on ggg

[split maple]

The Rongokurai's Boon buff from Guardian Turtle Spectres is no longer affected by modifiers to Buff Expiry Rate, such as Temporal Chains.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3931817

[sleek barn]

thats fine

[bleak quiver]

yep, same with the infinite regen AG, they just decided they wanted to nuke it i guess

[dusty mesa]

whats the tankiest gear for AG if I just need him to be alive (aside from doppel)

[frigid wedge]

i still think thats an end of league patch note change not a fuckin, remove it midleague change

[crystal talon]

Nerfed from infinite to a lot of minutes

[astral brook]

are hiest runners expensive

[sleek barn]

to min max yes

but by itself no

[split maple]

im just suprised they didnt even wait for monday

[bleak quiver]

the value is also down no? it was literally 32m regen before

[astral brook]

i mean i just stack ms right?

[crystal talon]

You can still reach the overflow limit on regen

[bleak quiver]

stiched demon and good es source, anything else dst matter

[sleek barn]

thats the concept

[frigid wedge]

gets expensive high end, can make a good one with like 500 ms tho for like 50d

assuming ps prices

[astral brook]

thats a good price yeah

[dusty mesa]

ah people just using stitched demon

makes sense

[astral brook]

hiest can be 20/30d an hour right?

[bleak quiver]

they are using the soul eater gem now to make ag tanky

[crystal talon]

Also from my understanding there is still technically a way to get infinite duration for selfish

[sleek barn]

no idea

how much is a simplex on console

[split maple]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage?items=The+Tides+of+Time%2CWidowhail%2CRearguard%2CQueen+of+the+Forest%2CDevoto's+Devotion%2CWarped+Timepiece&class=Pathfinder&sort=movementspeed&columns=character%2Clevel%2Clife%2Cenergyshield%2Cehp%2Cmovementspeed%2Cdps%2Ckeystoneskill

[sleek barn]

[split maple]

thats the usual setup

[frigid wedge]

yuh

[split maple]

there is also ichimoji version

and rly interesting banerman

[astral brook]

17d

[sleek barn]

bannerman sounds like a bit more work

[astral brook]

oh thats mirrored split bricked nvm

80d

[crystal talon]

Can confirm bannerman good heist build, but requires clicking buttons every 3 seconds

[sleek barn]

bah i guess its like clicking a flask

[dusty mesa]

even if I use selfish shepard, I probably want to go slayer right

[crystal talon]

Why slayer?

[dusty mesa]

endu charges and giga leech

[crystal talon]

Damage is like only reason

Leech is pointless

[dusty mesa]

I mean, if you were playing vaal temptation vls, what would you go that isn't bannerman

[sleek barn]

we talkin ab VLS

[dusty mesa]

[sleek barn]

waut

what is happening

the heist man and the vls man have combined

[dusty mesa]

huh, I've been talking about vls

heist man is different

[sleek barn]

VLS also goes bannerman?

thats funky

[split maple]

would you rather watch pathfinder or champ if going heist for 100h

[dusty mesa]

nah that was a joke to spikey

[sleek barn]

o

[dusty mesa]

he loves bannerman

[crystal talon]

Acc stack Jugg

[bleak quiver]

the should screen people for liking banners before allowing them to recommend builds

[dusty mesa]

it seems most are playing slayer and trickster

[short prairie]

Does vls even leech

[dusty mesa]

is this going to be another replica alberron's build

[normal hedge]

does leech even vls

[short prairie]

Does Rilay even sleep

[normal hedge]

yes i just woke up

[split maple]

yo guy called senses is awake

[short prairie]

Yo guy called esm going to sleep soon

[split maple]

true that

[crystal talon]

I mean if you wanna go slayer and charge stack it is totally fine

[dusty mesa]

I mean, I've never played jugg

so I'm down

[frigid wedge]

gm rilay

[short prairie]

It’s… night over there

[frigid wedge]

she just woke up

its morning

:3

morning is wakey time

doesnt matter what actual time

[short prairie]

5pm

[crystal talon]

Then yeah, you are probably going to want a replica alberon setup

[crystal talon]

I think int stack was nerfed too much, but idk

[normal hedge]

gm eri

[frigid wedge]

wakey time, means morning

[normal hedge]

even if its almost bedge time for you

[dusty mesa]

yea I've also never str stacked before; I just like to make fun of str stacking

no real reason

[short prairie]

Well, if you know me irl I say good morning at any time of the day

[frigid wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101879974308352081/1475265295106183259/caption.gif

[split maple]

zzz

[short prairie]

Stonks

[frigid wedge]

the hit game?

[sleek barn]

wtf that's what I do

stealing my phrase

[short prairie]

Morning

[dusty mesa]

hmm do I keep MB for this

[sleek barn]

morning

[split maple]

hmm?

[short prairie]

I only say that to my friends and family tho

Not to strangers

[sleek barn]

I say it to everyone

we are not the same

[bleak quiver]

senses infringing on copyright smh my head

[frigid wedge]

zenless

[short prairie]

See? Dan said we different, so no copyright

[normal hedge]

senses poe2 stream when

[frigid wedge]

not me sat with no headphones on making sound effects while i run lab

[short prairie]

I can barely stream poe1

My fps drops to like 50

[cold sable]

can i unveil int+str suffix if i have int suffix already ?

[normal hedge]

can test in craft of exile if u're not sure

[cold sable]

it doesnt tell me

[normal hedge]

[cold sable]

it will always let me click things even if its not allowed idk

[bleak quiver]

you cant

[cold sable]

also has things avaliable to click that are not in the game

ok

ty

[normal hedge]

in emulator

[cold sable]

idk what that is

[split maple]

hover the number in calculator vyxi

the number on blue background

all these mods share mod group so cannot appear together

now i hovered for body armor so check yourself for your slot as homework

[cold sable]

i use the beta site because the normal one is stupid and annoying

[split maple]

smh self made problem

[cold sable]

i was trying to use it for smth and it was the most confusing thing ever

[bleak quiver]

idk what they changed on the new craft of exile cuz it literally kills my cpu when i open the site now

never had that with a webpage

[mental nymph]

[normal hedge]

yeah i have that issue as well

[sleek barn]

must be bitcoin mining

[normal hedge]

i turned on ublock and its way better

[frigid wedge]

ok

this is kinda

jank

oh lord

speedge

[wild bridge]

can someone explain how legion jewels work

[normal hedge]

yes

#1228412901027741786

[wild bridge]

it has to be the exact same numbers?

[normal hedge]

no

please read the guide

it explains everything

[mental nymph]

[frigid wedge]

yesterday

today

xD

still in acts btw

...

i could get more

[limpid prairie]

you using mage blood or accel?

[dark kite]

accel wouldnt show a big movespeed increase iirc

[cobalt blade]

it does on ninja

ninja takes into account shrine belt

[pulsar ice]

it is true for in game stat sheet, but stuff like pob does show it

[dark kite]

oh i see

[dark kite]

vfos huh

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[dark kite]

or sunder?

[frigid wedge]

naw

snud

[dark kite]

i like vfos myself but i get it

[normal hedge]

snud snud

[dark kite]

accel belt with no 6l for leveling is wild tho

is this ssf

[wheat sinew]

6l == high mana cost

xd

[frigid wedge]

i could be usin gull rn

[frigid wedge]

basically the same thing

[dark kite]

ah, i see

[torpid meteor]

.

[frigid wedge]

plus im not rlly twinking

[torpid meteor]

How I remove all notif roles pls

[frigid wedge]

its just blazar setup with more movement speed

[torpid meteor]

nvm all good

[mental nymph]

Are you too poor to afford a tabby?

[cobalt blade]

tabby bad

real answer is to six link a good unique chest you can equip early

ex briskwrap for hollow palm or thousand ribbons for generic

[frigid wedge]

trying blazars setup, got bored

so i bought my accel early

[wild bridge]

omg help i ran out of gold switching builds

and i tried it out and dont know how it works

why is stuff not dying

[frigid wedge]

what build

[wild bridge]

the scrutum

[frigid wedge]

u gotta hit smth to start the ignite

[wild bridge]

i died in a white map

its so over

[true flower]

delete all characters and start from zero

[wild bridge]

ye this guy scammed me 40 divs

its over for me

[grim pivot]

But its not a scam if you dont get how the build works....

[frigid wedge]

show urs

pretty sure u skipped smth important

[wild bridge]

uhh

https://maxroll.gg/poe/pob/9smnn603

i dont have jewels yet

but i trtied it and just died in a white map

[cobalt blade]

do you have no anoint or is that maxroll being bad

[wild bridge]

oh wait i didnt change

ascendancy

oops

[grim pivot]

[wild bridge]

wait its same

nvm

[wild bridge]

o

[hard cliff]

some of the jewels might be very very important

[wild bridge]

ok wat else

[hard cliff]

that's a multi process build

[frigid wedge]

the jewels are a massive part of ur dmg and life btw

[wild bridge]

ye the 10 div jewel

looks kinda important

[frigid wedge]

and ur death rush is missing the mod that actually keeps u alive

u cant use foulborn death rush

ur missing this

also fix this shit

u have no dot multi

[wild bridge]

how do i get that

[frigid wedge]

the jewels

all of them have these 2 mods

[wild bridge]

how can i get gold

[hard cliff]

kill

[wild bridge]

😆

[wild bridge]

i cant kill

[grim pivot]

What tier? Go to tier 1 if you have to

[frigid wedge]

oh also

[short prairie]

Insane 2 mod jewel

[frigid wedge]

ur explosions do literally no damage

because you have the worst rolled fulcrum in the entire game

ur meant to actually have phys as extra

for ur glove explode

[wild bridge]

no way

[opaque sphinx]

what doi pair with breach besides beyond

[frigid wedge]

altars and mod effect

[opaque sphinx]

ok but what else

8i dont want beyond

i mean likle a dif mech

[frigid wedge]

why no beyond?

[opaque sphinx]

annoying

fuck repsawn

[frigid wedge]

[past mantle]

Deli.

[opaque sphinx]

respawn

[cobalt blade]

i mean your already gonna be waiting for eater mobs no?

[frigid wedge]

deli, shrines, scarabs

blockers

[opaque sphinx]

maybe but its annoying i just wanna run past once not come back

[frigid wedge]

u gotta come back anyway

unstable breaches make u

[wheat sinew]

you could pair in jun if you aren't running labes

[frigid wedge]

bc u gotta go to le middle

[opaque sphinx]

fuck

uright

ok fuck breach what else good for xp

[wheat sinew]

jun

skip research

[frigid wedge]

tbf u can run anything with density for xp

[wheat sinew]

takes less than a min a map

[frigid wedge]

iirc i was getting like 15% of a level per map on fuckin harvest so

[wheat sinew]

and you gain ~1% per map at 99

on white maps

[cobalt blade]

id do shrines beyond personally

gloom shrine gives explode to clean up beyond mobs

[wheat sinew]

beyond too rippy if not tanky enuf xd

[cobalt blade]

and accel echo op

[cobalt blade]

idk if your not tanky enough with shrines build issue or smth

thats how i levelled my hollow palm setup without changing anything else leaving acts lol

[wheat sinew]

nah am just saying not sure if he is doing deadeye or smth squishy

they have negative ehp/max hits

[frigid wedge]

im pretty damn sure my map gets easier when i add beyond

[opaque sphinx]

o have lots explode

i

[wheat sinew]

that works then

xd

[cobalt blade]

Sokratis this setup had like 1.5k hp ^ and i dont think it was res capped

[opaque sphinx]

beyond still annoy

[wheat sinew]

now your nerfing point is: fps

[opaque sphinx]

spawns after pack goes boom

[cobalt blade]

pure hollow palm

[wheat sinew]

dw

[opaque sphinx]

yeah my fps bad

[cobalt blade]

they get nuked from the future packs tho

[wheat sinew]

pack goes boom afterwards as well

[opaque sphinx]

doesnt feel like it

takes too long

to spawnm

[cobalt blade]

lack of aoe mayb

[wheat sinew]

they do ? xd

[frigid wedge]

i did breach beyond in t16 on my char so comfortably early i had to go down map tiers bc i was suffering from xp penalty on my own maps

[opaque sphinx]

send help

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[opaque sphinx]

how much aoe is not enough aoe

i think i have like 300%

200%?

[cobalt blade]

Yeah i walk myself up thru tiers to not get xp penalty

[frigid wedge]

What's the radius on ur explode

[opaque sphinx]

uhhh

[woeful yacht]

naca next the league the build is gc butchering howlcrack

[frigid wedge]

its fake dmg

[woeful yacht]

Is it

[frigid wedge]

doesn't work

[cobalt blade]

so true it'll be a pob inflation build that does no damage

[wheat sinew]

must have lucked out of not getting insta shotguned from the mobs xd

[cobalt blade]

yes

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

[opaque sphinx]

sec im kinda drunk finding pob is hard

[woeful yacht]

Is the problem attack speed?

[frigid wedge]

gen cry has a minimum time for clones to hit, howlcrack in pob ignores it

[wheat sinew]

cuz goddamn the eater packs love tits

and nails

[cobalt blade]

very basically hael no cdr>no minimum hit time since pob silly>automated cry>infinite attack rate

but it's all fake

[frigid wedge]

yk with kf where if u attack too fast you wont attack at all?

it does that

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/oYfI6GB.png

not t1 ward

grrr

that could be like 25 more ward !

[woeful yacht]

I'm not even saying this cause of pob. I'm saying it because banner=life and warcry=life

so it should be loopable and decently fast. Ignoring pob bullshittery

[frigid wedge]

game physically makes u wait like 2 full sec before gen cry fuckin hits anything

[dark kite]

i put together the hot occ and honestly idk about it

feels way too squishy https://pobb.in/DZ4ZzWw6omFr

[woeful yacht]

just take fuckin speed nodes

[frigid wedge]

doesn't fix it

[cobalt blade]

hael it does nothing

Your waiting for the clones to spawn

[frigid wedge]

there is a BASELINE MINIMUM

[cobalt blade]

Which you have no way to change

[gritty garnet]

scornful feels like a meme when they added diamond shrine belt in the same patch

[frigid wedge]

Mirage Warriors do not spawn all at once when the player uses General's Cry. Instead, spawns are staggered - the first mirage spawns ~300ms after the cast and subsequent mirages spawn one by one with an interval of ~200ms. It is not currently possible to reduce this interval. Active Mirages will finish their attack and despawn when using General's Cry again.

[cobalt blade]

have you considered Accel massive shrine scornful herald

[sinful bone]

Huge buff yo martial artists

Dam

To

[gritty garnet]

like if you can get your explodes to crit that does more than hot already

[cobalt blade]

#2┃general

[woeful yacht]

How do two gen cries work?

[gritty garnet]

no faces being broken in poe1

[cobalt blade]

the facebreakers is fucking nuts looking thoufh

[wild bridge]

what map layouts are closed tight corridors ?

[cobalt blade]

has me tempted to play 2

[gritty garnet]

you can have them socketed but cooldown will prevent you from using any real builds with 2 sets

[mental nymph]

[frigid wedge]

interrupts first one and cuts it short iirc

[wheat sinew]

ikr 'perma' stacking unique

[woeful yacht]

Interesting

[mental nymph]

Yup I'm going to suffer through this as well soon

And I got the items and everything

[opaque sphinx]

mb gud

[woeful yacht]

But like sans. I'm only thinking this as a pre-breach axe thing

[wild bridge]

@frigid wedge do you know ?

maps like in the video you linked

[cobalt blade]

mb bad

[frigid wedge]

the breach axe is partly just bc the pdps is high

[mental nymph]

What axe

[opaque sphinx]

161% aoe on HoT

[cobalt blade]

embrace good double shrines

[frigid wedge]

foul uul kiss

[frigid wedge]

?

[cobalt blade]

500% warcry cdr

[gritty garnet]

it's the one you usually pair with banner stuff

[opaque sphinx]

111% on explode

[mental nymph]

Yup ,just bought one yesterday kek

Oh God

[opaque sphinx]

how much aoe do i need for splode

?

[frigid wedge]

mine are 4.4m radius or smth

[woeful yacht]

Actually u could even go the non fb axe

Holy...

[frigid wedge]

temporarily yes

[opaque sphinx]

3.1 radius

[mental nymph]

So your main source of DMG is spamming general cry ?

[opaque sphinx]

surely billion dollars

[frigid wedge]

https://mapsofexile.com/
sort density

[short prairie]

The breach axe is pretty good actually if you think about it

[opaque sphinx]

hot

[woeful yacht]

It's a bit cooler than that but sure

[frigid wedge]

spamming gen cry is exactly how it does no dps

[mental nymph]

Go on

I'm going into this blind

Since y'know ,glad lacerate

[short prairie]

High pdps and if you take battlemage the aspd downside is nothing

[opaque sphinx]

hol up its actually money

[mental nymph]

Explain

[opaque sphinx]

fuck yeah gambling

[mental nymph]

[frigid wedge]

its 2h, just use mahoi erqi

[frigid wedge]

.

[mental nymph]

I also see the build paired with cyclone and desecrate

[gritty garnet]

you need corpses for gen cry

[woeful yacht]

Cyclone desc is a bit extra

[frigid wedge]

Counts total Power of Enemies and Corpses in Range
Summons Mirage Warriors from 2 corpses per 5 Power, minimum 1 corpse

[short prairie]

Mahoi Eri

[frigid wedge]

needed for single target on bosses

[frigid wedge]

holy shit me

[mental nymph]

Dude also had so many auras

[opaque sphinx]

wait so what do i do

[mental nymph]

Pob said it was not enough mana

[opaque sphinx]

breach and legion?

[frigid wedge]

sure

[mental nymph]

XP?

@opaque sphinx

[opaque sphinx]

yer

[mental nymph]

Unstable breach with beyond if you can handle it

[frigid wedge]

well actually Is ur aoe high enough for legion?

does ur explode go between rows

[opaque sphinx]

idk is it

thanks ai

[frigid wedge]

legion spawns in rows with small gaps within a row but larger gaps between them

[opaque sphinx]

how big is a unit

[mental nymph]

https://youtu.be/c_1QsJQsgVQ?si=7hrxsTYUClkGzD01

[frigid wedge]

something something suck my unit

[opaque sphinx]

if that says beyond imma fight u

[opaque sphinx]

u gotta buy me dinner first at least

[short prairie]

Beyond good

[dark kite]

what are the best builds for big boom expedition?

[opaque sphinx]

DO

[frigid wedge]

[dark kite]

it's a strat ive always wanted to try properly but i cpuld never survive it

[frigid wedge]

block+multi type explode

[opaque sphinx]

DO or evis glad

[frigid wedge]

big boom expedition with the new exped scarab is like the rippiest shit in the game rn

[woeful yacht]

Sans I think your understanding is a bit exaggerated bcs with just the axe, it's like 0.495s cd and it'd truly be pretty shitty in that case.

[short prairie]

Big boom expedition you still have to look at damage immune and avoid them

[frigid wedge]

it still procs 1 or 2 dudes

[short prairie]

Else no matter what, you deal zdps

[frigid wedge]

but ive literally pulled from the wiki

[opaque sphinx]

maybe i just dohives

i can afk those

[frigid wedge]

[opaque sphinx]

but that means no astro

[dark kite]

the big boi ones?

[opaque sphinx]

madge

yer

forts and have can afk both

[frigid wedge]

afk some simu

for voices

[opaque sphinx]

o will die

[frigid wedge]

kek

[opaque sphinx]

oh yeah i was debating bladefall trarthus

to afk blights

[frigid wedge]

bro wtf why is it res cap

[opaque sphinx]

ynot

[frigid wedge]

WHY IS IT 54 OVERCAP

[opaque sphinx]

altar

[frigid wedge]

hoop is my only res item here

[dark kite]

i think at this point im officially ready to hide basic t16 maps lol

[frigid wedge]

banners are ridiculous res wtf

[frigid wedge]

5c tho

3 to 5

[opaque sphinx]

whats the not good synth map again

[frigid wedge]

orange

[dark kite]

all of them

[opaque sphinx]

ty

[dark kite]

what makes a specific one "not good"? the layout?

[opaque sphinx]

yeah bad wall

too amny

many

[dark kite]

yeah probably the one im thinking of then

[opaque sphinx]

eckspeeeeeeee

[dark kite]

speaking of map prices i should probably sell some of these

[woeful yacht]

I think the second bullet in the wiki is why it's even functional. If you think the first bullet is the crux of it, you actually wouldn't even cast because of atk time.

I think if you watch videos, it's pretty clear that they are averaging more hits than 4 lacerates/sec

[opaque sphinx]

i missbreachstones

[livid quarry]

dont have much i wanna do in the game but i still want to flip currency

just a burden on ppl who actually wanna do stuff

this is why ggg gotta buff loot

else ppl flip

[elder ruin]

hey guys im just starting maps as a rf chief, how should i go about with my atlas tree?

[livid quarry]

https://pohx.net/

[elder ruin]

oh shit mb i didnt see the atlas button lol

[livid quarry]

oh i thought u meant skill tree

depends on what u wanna farm

[ruby geyser]

Hate that I'm bored with the league now. Literally can only run a couple maps before I logout.

[vocal tinsel]

work on challenges :D

thats keeping me busy

[ruby geyser]

All you know what that's really not a bad idea at all

[vocal tinsel]

getting the last few grindy ones done

going for 40/40 and currently at 32/40. last few I need are the like 175 mirage chains with 100 quant and the grindy ones like that

just running juiced breach for now with astrolabes to get one of hte astrolabes done and then Ill swap to something else

[ruby geyser]

Are the cosmetic rewards permanent?

[vocal tinsel]

i think so?

I know the totem is for sure

its a decor item you can place and each leagues totem is different

[ruby geyser]

Nice! The totem is the last one I got def have neglected them

[cold sable]

omg

https://i.imgur.com/foElCWs.png

randomly hit again on another pair

[vocal tinsel]

well totem gets bigger and bigger as you get hcallenges done

[cold sable]

lets fkng go..

[restive fern]

Hi I'm new here know anyone willing help rebuild my duel weild I'm on act 8 rn I'm on xbox btw

[cold sable]

what class are you playing

[vocal tinsel]

#1019646743299764255 #1┃build-planning

[ruby geyser]

I'm also curious how astrolabes work because I'm running harvest now and was wondering if astrolabing was beneficial? Rn I'll get upwards to 4 divine a harvest run sometimes. Which takes about a minute or two

[vocal tinsel]

generally yeah they buff the mechanic they work with

makes it more difficult but more rewarding as you clear out the shaped region

I accidentally bumped my mouse on my phone in hideout rip spectre

[ruby geyser]

Gotcha. So say I used a fruiting. Would I run harvest in all the maps within it?

[vocal tinsel]

yes running harvest will be the completion requirement

i love running a white t16 just to regrab unholy abberation and getting 2 tinks

[ruby geyser]

Explain! I really neglected astrolabes big time and kind of curious some good strats to invest in. I've got multiple complete characters and plenty of div to just try something new. Still no mirror

[vocal tinsel]

for example this is what breach astrolabe shows on modifier list in map

[ruby geyser]

Oh gotcha gotcha. I've tried breach many times and def have a character more than capable of handling juiced breach. The only problem is that my computer cannot. Which is so unfortunate bc that's like the only strat Ive wanted to run. Can really only do like decks, boxes, and harvest

[elder ruin]

Does +2 level of socketed gem also increase the attribute requirement?

[ruby geyser]

Good question. Possibly considering higher leveled gems up the requirements sometimes

That's why some builds like stop leveling certain gems to keep it within the attribute requirement. It can definitely brick some gems

[bleak quiver]

no

otherwise it would be really stupid with high amounts of +lvl

like eclipse requiring 1k of each stat or something

[elder ruin]

Ooh alright thanks!!

[bleak quiver]

you can get that experience on poe2 tho, upgrade your build for it to get worse

[ruby geyser]

Can humbly say I was wrong there. I figured leveling them upped the requirement. My bad

[bleak quiver]

gems dont have requirements besides lvl coded into them above lvl 21

and it dsnt even do anything

depends on the league

[fallow pewter]

No

[bleak quiver]

yes, with mercs, facebreaker was top tier

[ruby geyser]

I must be tripping because I've had to block gen levels due to attribute requirements. Probably tripping.

[bleak quiver]

leveling the gem itself increases requirements, getting bonus lvls from elsewhere does not raise the requirements, only the effect, which was his question

[ruby geyser]

Ahhh nice. 🙂

Also been kind of curious when this league actually ends? I've seen sometime in July or something

[bleak quiver]

around another month and a 3/4 left if they stick to the schedule

[vocal tinsel]

might get delayed with poe2's delay

just to keep spacing

[ruby geyser]

Cool cool. Is there usually a gap before next league or do they just switch over to a new league when one ends?

[vocal tinsel]

back to back div from tree

[grim pivot]

Can probably help but post in #1┃build-planning but acts is sunder imo

[restive fern]

I am on Xbox btw

[tall folio]

hey guys if anyone played PoE2 for at least 30-40h what's your opinion regarding some decisions devs took that makes the game vastly different compare to PoE1 & make the game less hardcore & more casual friendly?

[hard cliff]

like a week or two

I think

maybe less

[dark kite]

there's usually a gap of a few days to a week, you're never waiting very long

that reminds me i need to organize my stash

[vocal tinsel]

For vaulted valuables challenge (5 of 3 different types of vault rewards) does a unique map for example hit both the map category AND the unique category?

[onyx adder]

Yes

[ruby geyser]

This would be the first league I've put a ton of time in awhile. Just wanting to know what to be prepared for and appreciate it! Doesn't like all your stuff just get transfered to Standard?

[bleak quiver]

the simple awnser is that they are not comparable at all besides poe in the name, poe2 is just diablo 5

linear, slow, clunky, no room for creativity nor liberty, no focus on endgame at least until now

dont think my play time of that will ever change

[onyx adder]

Yes

[ruby geyser]

Real dude. Poe1 is just its own game there's no other way to describe it. Poe2 seemed to trail off in a different direction and describing it as Diablo 5 is super accurate

[onyx adder]

Its super inaccurate ngl

Poe2's problems are its own

D4 has a totally different set of issues

But this is poe1 chat theres no point getting into it here

[dark sequoia]

The elements that I enjoy about PoE1 are not present in PoE2.

[bleak quiver]

what i mean is that they are made for the same type of people

[ruby geyser]

People are always discussing it and since it's relating to poe1 I think the convo is welcome to be had fam

[bleak quiver]

they are made for the same audience, use the same limits and same methods to guide and limit players

[trail mauve]

which do you guys prefer ?

[ruby geyser]

Literally very similar Diablo mechanics. Not to mention the title of thread literally says Diablo inspired game

[onyx adder]

This is probably closer than ur initial statement yep

[bleak quiver]

which are appealing for normal people, boring for spread sheet gamers, the poe 1 main audience

[trail mauve]

the second one is MUCH MORE readable than the first

[onyx adder]

Huh

[trail mauve]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/HCskWEphaZ

thats my opinion on this discussion

[bleak quiver]

cool, modern ui vs ui from 10 years ago

nothingburger

[onyx adder]

Anyway, back to actual poe1 i need some meme to start a new run with

[trail mauve]

the average redditor / poster in that thread thinks that the goal of items tool tips etc should be readability not art / etc

[onyx adder]

Someone give me something dog shit

That isnt a stacker

And no fuckin banners

[trail mauve]

modern one sucks, i dont want my game to look like it was made with bootstrap

[ruby geyser]

Dictating what people can and can't discuss in a discord that describes Poe as a Diablo inspired game is wild. Anyways. Back to farming

[bleak quiver]

yeah, try pixxelkick's twister

[dark sequoia]

Spellslinger Flame Wall Warden

Using the Scorch node with Legacy of Fury will boost your clear by a lot

And Painseekers is actually okay on the build if you use ele hit of the spectrum.

[onyx adder]

Bruh ive had that guy blocked since like 2017

[bleak quiver]

its meme'y and has potential

[onyx adder]

There is no chance im exposing myself to those posts

[trail mauve]

Builds are simpler for now. More cookie cutter options with things being locked.

[onyx adder]

What spell

Or is it an elehit build

[bleak quiver]

its a flamewall build

[dark sequoia]

Flame Wall is the spell.

You use any wand attack to spread the fire dot.

[onyx adder]

Because that sounds turbodogshit so i might play it

Oh its an actual flame wall build

[bleak quiver]

its not dogshit tho, flame wall is a actual good build

[onyx adder]

A bottom right flame wall build

Legend

Off to the races

[dark sequoia]

You're scaling fire damage over time.
Warden gives you scorch and unbound avatar.

You could probably take chaos bloodline and toss in vaal rf.

[trail mauve]

wtf

[bleak quiver]

isnt picking warden instead of the usual chieftain just shooting youself for no reason tho?

scorch is trivial to get

[onyx adder]

Yea sure but every setup ive seen is top left corner

So i assumed it wasnt that setup

Bro said warden after all

[trail mauve]

is there a gameplay video of this

[trail mauve]

you dont wanna top you wanna bottom?

[dark sequoia]

This lets your wand scorch at long range and you aren't igniting anyway. It's for the clear with maven boots, since you're scaling DoT.

The boots already give you a scorch aura; it's for clear.

[bleak quiver]

you can get oath of spring and summer, + avatar, but gl getting those scorches to even do anything in a spellslinger build, at least the shocks will be easy

[hard cliff]

flame wall?!

[dark sequoia]

You can eventually FF/FF fury of nature.

[onyx adder]

Maven boot warden holy

[rancid seal]

it is good for BBQ 😛

[bleak quiver]

hm, that does sound good on paper at least

[dark sequoia]

Since you're scaling spell damage, your wand hits will do a little bit of damage.
The problem is you're really far from the wand mastery if you want to do ele hit.

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-looking-meme-gif-16858979507596336040

[dark sequoia]

And since your wand isnt your damage link, you can link it to stuff like chain and overshock.

[onyx adder]

The problem is ur really far from any tree node that does anything lul

This setup would be all clusters all day

[dark sequoia]

Ye

[rancid seal]

i heard people facetank uber hot guy what was his name Eldrich something his fire balls gets blocked by firewall

[onyx adder]

They get blocked by frost wall lulw

[rancid seal]

my bad

[onyx adder]

Flame wall doesnt have collision

[rancid seal]

cute

[trail mauve]

the uber eldritch super hot guy fight is nuts

[dark sequoia]

It would be a lot easier on chieftain.

But this is hipster.

[onyx adder]

I did ask for dog shit

Respect

[dark sequoia]

Also with oath of winter you can get freezes + 50% increased damage taken on bosses. Cause you know they're gonna be alive after ten seconds

From cold mastery

[gusty sigil]

lmao I'm doing unstable breach with wisp scarabs and invisible vruun is randomly killing me

[bleak quiver]

he does phys and chaos

gotta either get farther or get those max hits up

[dark sequoia]

Other nonsense builds are:
Voltaxic Burst Static Strike/Vaal EQ Mjolner Hierophant (but that's halfway to being a stacker)

Essence Drain of Wickedness Inquisitor with Gluttony Support (This is just a worse soulrend of the spiral build)

[vocal tinsel]

is there anywhere to see weights on synth implicits?

[gusty sigil]

I think the wiki has some basic info about it at least

[hard cliff]

that's me

[bleak quiver]

poedb has it

go into the base type, and on the top select the synth tab

[vocal tinsel]

thats just a list though

all the weights show as 0

[bleak quiver]

weird, it had weights before

[vocal tinsel]

yeah i tried that earlier in the league and it was all 0

[dark sequoia]

Brandsurge Staff might be fun if you can figure out a way to do damage.
If you link Arcanist Brand to Armageddon Brand of Volatility in the staff, you will cast a brand that casts self-exploding brands that are charged by brandsurge.

[vocal tinsel]

just double checked it is still all 0

[grim pivot]

https://spidermari.github.io/
Was what I used but I think this might be it?

[dark sequoia]

There isn't really a brandable spell that scales well with duration.
Voltaxic Burst is too janky.
Spark is hurt by the short range of arcanist brand.

And getting damage without a weapon without being a stacker is tough.

It would be cool if there was an exceptional support that like gave 80% less duration of primary debuffs but 100% more duration of secondary debuffs.

[vocal tinsel]

lol might need an explanation on this it’s a bit confusing

[nocturne maple]

isn't that list last updated in synth league? I don't think you'd find reliable info there

[onyx adder]

Firestorm of pelting is the go-to for this kind of setup

The less aoe on arcanist brand increases ur single target

[bleak quiver]

Lightning Spire Trap of Zapping

i dont even know if it can be branded

[onyx adder]

There are no synth weights on poedb fyi they havent been public, maybe in synth league itself when the weights were different i dont remember

But right now and since forever theyre not public

Most ppl in private crafting discords have some data but sharing it here would get a brother kicked

[dark sequoia]

You will hit the cap with brands though.

[onyx adder]

With brandsurge it requires quite some investment to hit cap

If u just build normally u wont hit

[bleak quiver]

nah, with cascade you will cap in .5 seconds

[onyx adder]

Cascade pelting is 💀

[dark sequoia]

You have 6 or so brands that trigger faster and faster until they expire.

[onyx adder]

U will have two on a single target going

[dark sequoia]

Even on single target you are going to hit 12 casts before the first storm expires.

[onyx adder]

I wish i could have 6 brands active at once

Storm brand would be good

[onyx adder]

Pelting has base two second duration and base arcabrand is 1 activation/sec

U actually do need investment

This is a thing i alrdy looked into

[dark sequoia]

I guess if you don't scale cast speed or duration

[onyx adder]

U need 400% total cast speed/duration combo

[dark sequoia]

Interesting

[onyx adder]

Or activation speed from brandsurge, remembering that base attached duration on arcanist brand is dog shit

[dark sequoia]

oof

[onyx adder]

Its not hard to hit because its all multiplicative

But its not like ur insta capping and wasting all ur procs

Unless u socket cascade and miss all ur firestorms anyway ofc

[dark sequoia]

Ball Lightning of Orbitting with knockback sounds kinda funny but doesnt scale with duration.

[onyx adder]

It does not indeed

[karmic gust]

frostbomb of forthcoming

[dark sequoia]

oh goodness

wait can cooldown skills be branded

[onyx adder]

💀

[dark sequoia]

Frost Bomb of Forthcoming sounds fun with foulborn tinkerskin to give extra charges.

[livid quarry]

what do ppl farm with horned scarab of awakening

[bleak quiver]

i dont think "damage on Tuesdays, the skill" can be fun

[bleak quiver]

you just add it for any bossing strat and it pays itself

nothing really special

[livid quarry]

they looking for any drops?

[bleak quiver]

they dont drop shit

just chissels from maven witness

maybe you get lucky and get some good bases

it is as borring as it gets, just some extra guys to kill that pay themselves which you add into every maven witness strat

[onyx adder]

These skills do at least make very funny youtube videos

That is their purpose

Same as earthquake

[cosmic eagle]

I just realized there are tons of bad ass names on some of the trans gems but almost all of em nobody uses

[spice pecan]

we have trans gems for traps meanwhile we don't have one for wintertide brand

and that is a damn shame

[sleek barn]

holy shit damage on Tuesday's the skill sounds awesome

restricts my play time

[bleak quiver]

it dsnt even restrict your play time, cuz you have to be alive during the entire week before it hits

[candid stag]

How do I make my recomb success percent go up? Trinna recomb axes. One w t3 hybrid 1 w t1 flat

[cosmic eagle]

Trying to get 3 prefix? Isnt unpredictable better than the poo2 recomb anyday?

[candid stag]

?? I’m loe1

Poe1

[spice pecan]

you can use both recomb types; poe1 and poe2

[candid stag]

🤣

[cosmic eagle]

The one with pick and percentage is from poo2 blud

[spice pecan]

yeah, use unpredictable

[cosmic eagle]

Unpredictable is the og poo1 version lmao

[spice pecan]

then again, recomb is unethical in the first place

[candid stag]

Oh I got you

[spice pecan]

so recombing is bad

[candid stag]

I see what u saying

Let’s go I got kt

[cosmic eagle]

When do you use poo2 tho? It feels like everytime i pick the desired mods it only shows dogshit %

[candid stag]

It hit

Woo hoo

[spice pecan]

i think there's like a couple situations

but i dont recomb ever

[cosmic eagle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720763953449271308/1079025149287862372/sanecat.gif

[blissful zodiac]

btw poe 1 will definitely be getting poes 2 in game pob

which means PREpare the funeral for pob

[spice pecan]

pob isnt going anywhere

[blissful zodiac]

(it will release in a buggy state)

[bleak quiver]

yeah, lets be real, its not 1% of pob

[spice pecan]

we need pob for huge amounts of math that is either not possible to find in game, or exceedingly annoying/tedious

[blissful zodiac]

or listen

[spice pecan]

we dont even have accurate ingame dps tooltips lol

[bleak quiver]

it will be good for league start, besides that, kind of a meme

[spice pecan]

pob isnt going anywhere

[blissful zodiac]

ggg can just fix it

must take a lot of work

tho

[spice pecan]

there are a lot of things they kind of can't fix

[bleak quiver]

its not really a ggg can fix it thing

it simply is that complex of a game

[cosmic eagle]

Its just a copy and paste planner, pob is built diff lmao

[blissful zodiac]

yeah like chain hook being a bad skillM

[spice pecan]

chain hook isn't terrible numerically

it's just the mechanics of the skill make you want to grind your nuts on a belt sander

[blissful zodiac]

I want you to make a chain hook build then

and pob it

[spice pecan]

already did

[blissful zodiac]

and send it to me

[spice pecan]

also, mathil did too

[blissful zodiac]

so I can play it

cause that skill calls my name

[spice pecan]

just watch mathil's video, it is pure misery

[nova jungle]

do we know if the build planner they're putting in poe2 will come to poe 1 later

[spice pecan]

no

we do not know

[blissful zodiac]

misery is trying to play hexblast in 2026

[spice pecan]

but "probably"

[spice pecan]

selfcast hexblast ignite is supposedly a real build

[cosmic eagle]

Fuck build planner, give us 3 templates for passive tree like atlas that's more better than planner

[sleek barn]

hexblast of contradiction is playable through cast on ward break

[spice pecan]

lmao

[bleak quiver]

you can kinda just take a str stacker and socket chain hook of trarthus

or is it the normal one? idk

[spice pecan]

trarthus one is where you have to move away to break the chains to deal damage

[blissful zodiac]

aint that one also bad

[cosmic eagle]

Clunky ass gem

Whaaaat

[bleak quiver]

you can break it by exceeding max targets

repeats also allow multiple chains on the target

so any way to make worms or penance mark + awakened multistrike and its a worse infernal blow

which is still shit, but it works

[karmic gust]

you would need to break all at once for it to be any useful otherwise still sounds terrible :d

its pretty sad tho because that skill sounds almost fun

[bleak quiver]

they all hit at once, but calculate separately, so yeah

[sleek barn]

my idea is like gluttony CWDT FBoWB

fucked flicker

[karmic gust]

but if you exceed max targets then its first in firstout or they expplode all at once?

[short prairie]

[bleak quiver]

that is a good question

[sleek barn]

nvm it's not a movement skill

[spice pecan]

it's not a skill

[sleek barn]

skrill issue

[short prairie]

Another person hating on flicker

Sadge

[sleek barn]

no I was making a tribute to flicker

with chain hook

[bleak quiver]

tried finding this, but got no answer, however, what i did find, is that its a aoe skill for some reason, so all the extra targets shotgun onto the main one

which is cool i guess, tried to watch this in slow motion but got no idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekECEdip4G4

[cosmic eagle]

@short prairie Sense i found a cheap coop game, the forest

[short prairie]

Isn’t that like,

12 years old

I’ll be playing poo2 until all challenges done

[cosmic eagle]

You still have 1 week bud

[karmic gust]

this one is fun at least

[short prairie]

Armor looks sick

[karmic gust]

that actually sounds playable with penance mark

[cosmic eagle]

We can at least purge the forest with all canibals

Within a week

[short prairie]

Non horror pls

Forest is scary af

[cosmic eagle]

It's just cannibals bud

[short prairie]

Malformed cannibals

Hunting you in the dark

Nty

[spice pecan]

this is the trarthus version right

[short prairie]

[sleek barn]

that's what they call me

[bleak quiver]

yes

[short prairie]

Your old cannibal Dan

[cosmic eagle]

Why you scared, we play it coop you at the back i go front i am a chad

[short prairie]

How about don’t starve together

Less scary prob

Bruh why are all coop games horror themed

ICANT

[cosmic eagle]

This guy hates horrors but plays poe

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[karmic gust]

yea

[karmic gust]

i hate cats so i play poe

[short prairie]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[spice pecan]

db hates cats

mods

[short prairie]

How’s poe horror themed

It’s dark fantasy

Not even scary

[bleak quiver]

instead of poe horror -> coop horror
go from poe gambling -> gamble with your friends

[cosmic eagle]

I will gamble senses instead

[thick goblet]

most friendslop isnt scary

[spice pecan]

there's plenty of good ones that aren't, chained together for example was quite fun for a couple nights with the homies

[cosmic eagle]

He is a fpsslop enjoyer

[short prairie]

we have to play games that dont get affected too much by high ping, cuz we live at the opposite side of the planet

[spice pecan]

i remember my overwatch phase

[short prairie]

fps poe AAAs

[cosmic eagle]

Dont trust senses, i live in his basement he feeds me dogshit internet

[short prairie]

are my thing

[spice pecan]

you should just play osrs

[short prairie]

?

[spice pecan]

do not

but also

lmao

[cosmic eagle]

Old school runescape

He will not love it he hates games with shit graphics

But plays poe

[short prairie]

✅

poe has good graphics

wdym

look at witch, them angular face and legs

elegant

[cosmic eagle]

I like my character tposing randomly

[bleak quiver]

witch legs are anything but angular

bitch has 1 rectangle for each

[rancid sluice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/virtua-fighter-sega--k01KRYZA73HDABAF7E28FTZHZ2X

[cosmic eagle]

Senses likes that

Reminds him his fave witch

[cosmic eagle]

Is it me or it looks like dslily

[short prairie]

hold on

you might be right

wait

are you implying dslily has an angular face

[cosmic eagle]

Dslily is the witch model

[short prairie]

she wasnt even 18 when poe1 came out

[cosmic eagle]

I cant unsee it anymore bud

[spice pecan]

poe1 came out officially in 2013 right

[cosmic eagle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720763953449271308/1079025149287862372/sanecat.gif

[rancid sluice]

yeah

[spice pecan]

i turned 18 in 2013

simpler times

[cold sable]

can i remove or change influences on an item? such as shaper influence?

[rancid sluice]

was going through my account stuff on the site for something the other day was created in july of 2013 heh

[stray sedge]

mogged

[short prairie]

it's her true form

[gritty epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/クラウド-cloud-strife-cloud-ff7-ff7r-gif-16710854

[short prairie]

them shoulder to bicep ratio

[spice pecan]

the planet's dyin, cloud!

[spice pecan]

that one always gets me

squall looks like a fucking cyclops with hair over his one eye

[hard cliff]

FF8 > FF7

[spice pecan]

objectively wrong but i respect your right to be wrong

[gritty epoch]

This guy gonna start a war

[spice pecan]

i did speedruns of FF games for years, it was a good day if there wasn't an argument about which game is best in my chat

[cosmic eagle]

Kirby sweeps ff franchise

[spice pecan]

also factually wrong but i love kirby air ride

[gritty epoch]

Are u that guy who reach level 100 in beginner zone

[spice pecan]

no that was davesterio but i've been friends with him for years

[hard cliff]

I wish the Nintendo Pro controller didn't cost $90 I really wanna play the new kirby game

(from like 6 years ago)

[spice pecan]

i think monetarydragon also did first reactor level 100

[hard cliff]

No their is another

[gritty epoch]

Madness

[cosmic eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/kirbyyy-gif-9335479687690638366

[spice pecan]

uh, if it wasn't dave and wasn't MD, then it had to be someone like dashretro

[hard cliff]

Do you know this guy @spice pecan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_fJqcXMG4E

[spice pecan]

the name looks kinda familiar but i dont think so

[hard cliff]

He wasn't a speedrunner but holy hell this man grinded like it was paying him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erG8uMRl2j4

There it is

[spice pecan]

i mean is he just doing dustia farming

there's basically no more efficient way to level since everyone joins based on vaan's level

[cosmic eagle]

Ff online getting new xpac? My youtube ads always shows final fantasy

[spice pecan]

might be, not sure

i really want to play more ff14, never got to raid in that game

[rancid sluice]

comes out january, ill prolly be going back for it

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/pd4xYBi.png