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cobalt blade
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thats not 2 min frenzies

limpid prairie
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idont know CoE says its 2 though

tranquil umbra
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that's only 1.70

cobalt blade
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helical and quality are additive btw

limpid prairie
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its lying to me? im going to be so sad

cobalt blade
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yes

tranquil umbra
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item mods always round down

limpid prairie
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welp back to frenzies ralakesh...

bleak quiver
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sound like a good idea, if you want easy endurance charges, you can save even more points by finding a enduing composure megalo with + 2 good nodes for you, it also pairs really well with elevated endurance boots allowing you to fuel IC while also keeping them topped up

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i got enduring + these 2 for really cheap

surreal mulch
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what's like the easiest way of power charge sustain

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pcoc right?

lean urchin
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depends on build

bleak quiver
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assassins mark

finite quail
surreal mulch
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that one is only on rare kill

finite quail
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or assassins mark

cobalt blade
finite quail
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with quality

cobalt blade
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quality gives on hit

bleak quiver
limpid prairie
surreal mulch
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oh

spice pecan
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disciple of the forbidden can be used too i guess

cobalt blade
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but its definitly pcoc

tranquil umbra
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charge on block :troll

cobalt blade
tranquil umbra
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best pcharge sustain is hierophant

cobalt blade
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i comfortably sustain endu/frenzy any situation it matters with that lol

surreal mulch
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yeah I mean having a build that actually uses power charges so you can justify pcoc in main link is ideal

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but I only have max 3

cobalt blade
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its still a 12% more dmg imbue

surreal mulch
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that has to compete with a 44-52% imbue

cobalt blade
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oh fair ecoms

surreal mulch
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actually I guess it's more affordable for now,rolling ecoms is like a whole project I have to do

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then again no one is out there using blue coin on double strike

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self balancing market or some shit idk

bleak quiver
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bitch literally didnt drop anything

lean urchin
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grats

spice pecan
finite quail
bleak quiver
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6 mod map with max effect btw

limpid prairie
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Nice i think i unkrangled my tree succesfully thank you all

tranquil umbra
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yeah that happens

short prairie
limpid prairie
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Nacaaaaaa can you double check my tree? bla 🥺

bleak quiver
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i thought i had disconnected when she fell and nothing appeared ...

cobalt blade
limpid prairie
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im sure they are better than mine

lament basalt
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anyone got a good kboc necro pob?

cobalt blade
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i assume the revision 2,0 one

limpid prairie
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Yep

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I dont think there is anything i missed really but im always afraid i fumbled

surreal mulch
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isn't it kinda funny how wand attacks are a giant skill archetype but none of the witch ascendancies truly fully spec into it

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I guess slightly occultist

limpid prairie
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Well necro did get that AS thing right?

surreal mulch
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yeah but it's from consuming corpses

bleak quiver
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those are themed for dd self cast or some shit yeah

surreal mulch
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very much a side effect and I think was mainly meant to make corpse gameplay smoother

surreal mulch
bleak quiver
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also, there are no ascendancies themed around any specific weapon, so its more of "why dsnt the mage have a warrior specialization" than anything

cobalt blade
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since your trigger is brand recall

surreal mulch
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I mean I guess inquisitor does have them trying to make you use spell damage and attack damage simultaneously

lean urchin
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of maruader i hope

cobalt blade
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and brand recall isnt dealing damage

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
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same reason trigger bots doesnt apply the 35% less

limpid prairie
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ohh! maybe ill get a new nebulis then

tranquil umbra
cobalt blade
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its funny :3

tranquil umbra
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with an accurate neck length

cold sable
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are there any jewels that increase curse limit

cobalt blade
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also dont know if you have enough uh life to sustain the brand triggering

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but thats something youd find out ingame

lean urchin
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sure, send hte phising link

dusty turtle
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I put together a temporary Ward Loop setup to see if it would run, but it doesn’t seem to work properly. My Ward layer is around 870, and it drops to about 30 while flask effects are active. I’m starting to wonder if this build actually needs a certain minimum absolute Ward value for the loop to function.

lean urchin
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its fine

limpid prairie
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at least i don think it is?

cobalt blade
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otherwise no

limpid prairie
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worse case there is an infamous mod for life costs i could use

lean urchin
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where u get infamous mods

bleak quiver
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heist

tranquil umbra
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miraged rogues

limpid prairie
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From infamous people

lean urchin
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miraged rouges i can understand, but heist?

cobalt blade
surreal mulch
lean urchin
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i c

limpid prairie
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Kinda expensice this one

bleak quiver
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wait, heist is only for the gems? weird

tranquil umbra
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yeah the mods were gone in 3.27

limpid prairie
surreal mulch
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there are so many options on what to use spare gem slots on now

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like I could easily have a companionship setup. or a consecrated ground plus power charge setup

broken cloak
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Any word on if POE1 will get a new league when POE2 does? or is it going to end up being drawn out again like settlers?

surreal mulch
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or a travel skill

surreal mulch
cobalt blade
surreal mulch
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self competition

bleak quiver
surreal mulch
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phrecia me

bleak quiver
lean urchin
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link?

broken cloak
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Darn, for me poe1 still the better game. Poe2 feels like poe1 in slow motion.

surreal mulch
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I don't like the tree balancing

cobalt blade
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youd have to test it in an open area but i think its just not triggering every brand but your life recovery is good enough you dont die

spice pecan
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good for you. this isn't the place for it

brave summit
autumn dawn
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anyone got some fun mageblood builds i can go? i'm making a wheel to decide which ones i can do!

tranquil umbra
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expect a new league in like july

tranquil umbra
spice pecan
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dual strike of ambidexterity aura stacker necro

tranquil umbra
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mageblood is something you slap on to existing builds

limpid prairie
autumn dawn
surreal mulch
tranquil umbra
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literally

spice pecan
surreal mulch
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I'm not doing melee attack builds on necro bro

spice pecan
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unfortunate

surreal mulch
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idc if the numbers are good the tree is gonna be awful

spice pecan
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ppl play eviscerate ignite

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and that thing has the worst tree known to man

tranquil umbra
# tranquil umbra literally

like I can't give you specifics because if you have a mageblood and aren't planning on using another unique belt, you should just use mageblood

surreal mulch
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doing it on shadow would make more sense because he's John crit and surrounded by crit and dagger and claw nodes

limpid prairie
surreal mulch
spice pecan
cobalt blade
spice pecan
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and that

cobalt blade
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if you have x3 aura effect thats 9% as per aura

surreal mulch
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glad gets +20 attack speed mult when dual weilding

cobalt blade
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which is fucking broken

spice pecan
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yeah the necro AS node is so good

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aurabots FF it for a reason xd

surreal mulch
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so it's like 1.16 more attack speed

short prairie
cobalt blade
spice pecan
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but it's fantastic cuz it's ambi

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so you become a shredder

short prairie
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Ambi you literally just put moonbender on offhand

spice pecan
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i so wish you could play eblade ambi

spice pecan
cold sable
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does rational doctrine create profane ground underneath me or underneath the enemies?

spice pecan
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though if not using paradoxica/sword MH, I personally am fond of ichimonji offhand

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especially on something that's heavy on auras

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
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even non synth honestly

short prairie
cold sable
short prairie
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Rly?

cobalt blade
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the extra crit multi kinda good

surreal mulch
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oh wait no dual weilding is 10

bleak quiver
cold sable
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ok thats kinda good then

cobalt blade
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and claws themself have good attack speed

short prairie
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UHM bro

spice pecan
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also on a necro you'd have so much fucking attack speed anyways that like

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a slightly slower offhand is zero issue

bleak quiver
cobalt blade
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+prefixes

bleak quiver
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like, sometimes 100% inc crit chance and 10% curse effect for a jewel socket is kinda shit, if you can enable both, then its goated

limpid prairie
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new nebulis!

short prairie
cobalt blade
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ye i did mention synth

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vs moonbender being that

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crit multi quite a bit more valuable imo

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(and if you rly wanted double or triple synth for higher multi)

short prairie
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Is this foulborn

cobalt blade
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ye

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the foulborn replaces the phys with attack speed

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i was too lazy to go find it on trade so i just made it manually in pob

short prairie
cobalt blade
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i guess with voaltile you can get it up to that instead

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but i still think claw is better lmfao

surreal mulch
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it's not actually that amazing of an attack speed the thing that makes it work is decent base crit chance and the fact that trauma support only works on axes and the blunt weapons

cobalt blade
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well ye but you dont have to be trauma to play ambi

surreal mulch
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but... imagine....

cold sable
cobalt blade
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and i dont even think you would be since the talk was necro ambi

cobalt blade
surreal mulch
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beating the shit out of yourself 12+ times a second just to reach 1% of minion pact flat phys damage

cobalt blade
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0.1%*

surreal mulch
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I didn't actually count idk

bleak quiver
cold sable
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im debating replacing it

limpid prairie
cold sable
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but idrk what i couild use instead

bleak quiver
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a rare jewel? the strongest kind of item in the game

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specially for crit builds

cold sable
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what rare jewel helps wardloop tho

bleak quiver
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oh if its wardloop you dont even need dmg anyway

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just fuck around ScuffOkBuddy

short prairie
surreal mulch
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cast on beans support

cobalt blade
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its a good jewel socket if your hitting enough which wardloop does

bleak quiver
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yeah, but its a jewel socket still, prime real state

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specially with all the new good unique jewels

cold sable
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wait

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i could use

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emporers wit

cobalt blade
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oh you arent using emp wit/mastery?

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those are definitely better lmfao

cold sable
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mastery?

cobalt blade
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emperor's mastery

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7% generic attributes

cold sable
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oh

cobalt blade
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also 5% global def which applies to ward

bleak quiver
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there are so many underrated jewels like foulborn ancestral visions or foulborn firesong

surreal mulch
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yeah you can do like ostentation plus runegraft of the fortress for even more ward

surreal mulch
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dreams let you cap block

cobalt blade
surreal mulch
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true

cobalt blade
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if the explode does too much damage it cant curse on hit = doesnt chain

cobalt blade
surreal mulch
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what if hexbloom

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
surreal mulch
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oh that's a thing

bleak quiver
cobalt blade
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+jiquanis for flat

tranquil umbra
bleak quiver
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same for firesong, such a disgusting jewel

cobalt blade
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along with half your ailment avoid

tranquil umbra
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that is fair

bleak quiver
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even the full foulborn is good

surreal mulch
cobalt blade
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personally think the avoids more valuable than prevent

cold sable
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oh

cobalt blade
tranquil umbra
cold sable
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profane ground is also 10% curse effect tho

short prairie
cold sable
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my pob says its better than emperors jewels

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gg ig

tranquil umbra
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I was using ancestral vision on my banner character it was so stupid

short prairie
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Sucky boy

limpid prairie
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Prevent with spell supp mastery and you are back to prenerf suppression and then some

bleak quiver
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the some more is 1%

cobalt blade
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youd need inveterate as well

spice pecan
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how hard is it theoretically to convert phys to chaos

cobalt blade
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just mastery and jewel is only 48

tranquil umbra
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osin smile

short prairie
karmic gust
spice pecan
tranquil umbra
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oh right lmao

karmic gust
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15% dot multi you get 14% from rare ejwel

tranquil umbra
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unholy might?

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isn't that just 100% convert

spice pecan
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oh shit good call

limpid prairie
spice pecan
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i forgot about that

limpid prairie
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maybe i should learn reading

karmic gust
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and the reduced ailment durration on firesong is completely useless

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
short prairie
cobalt blade
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i also use that but for wither on fross

short prairie
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I thought I was smart

bleak quiver
karmic gust
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overwhelming malice is so annoying because you still die to reflect

tranquil umbra
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sin's rebirth pf

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smile

cobalt blade
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true but atleast reflect is easier to mitigate now

karmic gust
cobalt blade
bleak quiver
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and falcrum too

tranquil umbra
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cws does like ignite duration

cobalt blade
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was actually worth a decent bit double foul

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fulcrum*

karmic gust
bleak quiver
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evis too

karmic gust
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you dont rly needto bother on evis i dont think

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you have as many uses of it as you want

tranquil umbra
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how does evis ele work exactly

bleak quiver
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big dmg

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big ignite

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big hp bar goes poof

cobalt blade
dense river
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is it possible to do ubers with glacial cascade elementalist for cheap?

tranquil umbra
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this is the build guide I want from zizaran

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big dmg

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big ignite

cobalt blade
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and then you dont 1 shot because its ignite and half to wait a second for it to die anyway

karmic gust
cobalt blade
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for bossing yeah

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
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/the lonely bosses

bleak quiver
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yeah, cascade of fisure is one of the top bossing builds rn

karmic gust
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they should unrestrict evis to other wep types would actually be quite nice for clearing as well

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very sad

surreal mulch
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all retaliation skills have an awkward shape for any good clear to be done

karmic gust
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if you arent miner there is no point to do fissur etho right

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as that skill is kinad shit

surreal mulch
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eviscerate misses a big chunk, fist is too short,swipe is too short

full kraken
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Nothing +1000% inc aoe cant solve!

karmic gust
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if it overlaps only 3 times

bleak quiver
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the cold one with the bell is funny

dense river
surreal mulch
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(I ran that shit unironically)

karmic gust
cobalt blade
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you might struggle with that non instantable ones though

karmic gust
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if you coulda ctualy use monastery bell with evis normally

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then you would just shied chargre into evis and it would actually clear pretty well

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but cant rly do that atm so its just sad

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and crushing fist has fat less ailment multi

limpid prairie
bleak quiver
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i mean, if retals had good clearr they would be the best thing you could do by a mile

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cant miss, gigantic scaling, can ignore dmg and go for tank

surreal mulch
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yeah they'd have to fuck up the attack speed scaling

tranquil umbra
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evis scales with weapon damage right

surreal mulch
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yeah

tranquil umbra
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like not the shield

surreal mulch
karmic gust
surreal mulch
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it can't be literally no one I saw a video about it

bleak quiver
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divine retribution is kinda of a trash qol skill tho,, even for a retal

karmic gust
bleak quiver
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ive seen some

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it does look cool when yoou chain cd skip

cobalt blade
tranquil umbra
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we shield crush in this house

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fuck crafting weapons

dense river
karmic gust
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ah yees the supe rinteresting gearing of shield skills

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equip emperorsr vigilance

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done

tranquil umbra
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equip varunastra and allocate weapon master

surreal mulch
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they should make a shield skill shield without glancing

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i hate glancing

tranquil umbra
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I love glazing

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wait

cobalt blade
surreal mulch
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gander

karmic gust
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you can craft good enough shield to compete with vigilance its just pain, especially if you dont care about crit

surreal mulch
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a proper one

spice pecan
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is eldritch blasphemy just... better than regular blasphemy?

tranquil umbra
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I mean

karmic gust
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thats kinda the point

tranquil umbra
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it is the awakened blasphemy

karmic gust
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both are bad anyway

spice pecan
tranquil umbra
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transformative when I show them the greater chain gem

karmic gust
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yea tellthat to greater multistrike

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eldritch blasphemy at least has worse malediction after 5 seconds

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so thats something surely

tranquil umbra
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I wish crafting bis weapons were easier than recomb roulette

spice pecan
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it has more aoe too

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but yeah

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incredibly transformative wow

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we kneecapped dot build support gems for this

bleak quiver
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it has a debuff that never activates tho

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thats transformative

karmic gust
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well look at greater cursed ground, its literally same thing, not a single new line that does anything on that one

spice pecan
limpid prairie
karmic gust
spice pecan
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ironically the +1 limit stealth "buff" to cursed ground in poe2 killed my impending doom league start in that game xdd

karmic gust
tranquil umbra
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I DONT WANT TO ROLL MERCILESS

spice pecan
limpid prairie
tranquil umbra
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bro idc the base can be expensive

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let me roll the mods easily

limpid prairie
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yah... thats i was saying itll be much better to pay 10 divs for the base than get wrists issues 2 years earlier every time you want to roll for a weapon

finite quail
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bruhhhhhh

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in tier 7 maps I got my first uber lab frag

tranquil umbra
finite quail
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and its a special one so its area level 83

limpid prairie
finite quail
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wrong

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I don't have that kinda damage or survivability

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Izaro's gonna slap my ass into the third dimension

compact bronze
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whats the closest thing to kinetic blast gameplay in poe2?

finite quail
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also its a bad one, corrupted gem outcomes

finite quail
tranquil umbra
spice pecan
compact bronze
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yes but you know maybe some of you know since kb is in poe

bleak quiver
finite quail
compact bronze
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fine

spice pecan
# compact bronze fine

there's also that molten sharpnel build or whatever, but that's more like EK of the massacre imo

bleak quiver
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galvanic shads and LA were the closest to poe1 gameplay that i got

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not fun at all, but it was familiar at lleast

tranquil umbra
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they made a KB wand unironically for 0.5

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but the stipulation is you have to use blasphemy

bleak quiver
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I saw it, almost convinced me to re-instal to test

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but then I remembered all the other times this happened and how i regretted

cosmic eagle
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The memes about RF coming to poo2 and requiring you to maintain/pay endurance charges,power charges and all charges in the game maybe comes true after all xdd

tranquil umbra
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no they did add RF to poe2 also

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it's a minion spell now

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locked to a unique

cosmic eagle
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So you need to pay soul charges? xdd

tranquil umbra
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no

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it's free

autumn dawn
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which is better, bleed or flicker build in terms of dps, budget is 12 div

spice pecan
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probably, but again more like ek than kblast. i would definitely check with the poe2 ppl if they know anything about kblast tho

tranquil umbra
cosmic eagle
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Bleed probably has more dps with 12 div investment

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Id say glad lacerate

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Or bleed boneshatter

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Both are nice ngl

tranquil umbra
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the bonezone

drowsy eagle
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bonkshatter

broken cloak
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Anyone understand the mechanics of ward loop + maven slams? Say you have a sustained ward loop that restores each time it breaks- do you need a max hit capable of taking all 3 of mavens slam ticks, or are their server ticks between each one for the ward to break + restore?

cosmic eagle
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Bonerzone uses 1 hand axe with shield so it's comfy to run foshor

tranquil umbra
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oh that's pussy bonezone

broken cloak
tranquil umbra
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play the chad bonezone

cosmic eagle
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Gotta enjoy lucky block if you want glad xdd

tranquil umbra
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infinite endurance charges and regen

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jugg

cobalt blade
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just need to be able to tank 1

broken cloak
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I see, so that must mean each hit occurs after 1 or more server ticks, and in a way which allows the hit to trigger the restore loop

cobalt blade
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https://youtu.be/Mu7FAY3GWD0 fearless dumbo tanking it as an ex a mple and that 36k ward would not be enough to tank all 3

Discharge with the new Heroic Tragedy jewel is truly one of the best builds in Mirage league. Extreme tank, high damage with 100% uptime, and zero buttons.

You can watch me solo to 100 in the breach with many Flask Siphoners in last Thursday's VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2738289639

I spent ~2.5mir on all gear and crafting, including re-...

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(possible epilepsy warning)

viscid ruin
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Why is poo2 pinging me >:(

normal hedge
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skill issue

cosmic eagle
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Poo2 teasing u with crazy uniques

viscid ruin
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Yeah

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Like THE FUCK YOU MEAN YOURE GIVING THEM THE MODERFOKIM TRUMNA FROM WARFRAME BUT NOTHIBG TO POE1

cosmic eagle
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Im curious about poo2s mageblood with no magic flask

viral burrow
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Perma charms or maybe it gives u flask effects of flasks from poe 1

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Idek besides that

hollow gull
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While playing PoE my PlayStation broke doesn’t power on anymore . So pissed. Only played 10 minutes

thick vine
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All notifications will give you pings for both games

cosmic eagle
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Yeah it could be more potent than poe 1 or it's a joke itself

cosmic eagle
cobalt blade
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but it would make me consider playing 2 since borderline playable move speed

cosmic eagle
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Dude imagine they bring back attack speed on poo2s mb susge

tranquil umbra
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lmao

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rofl even

cold sable
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i have made a ward looper that can sucessfully afk uber uber elder

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ggez

viscid ruin
finite quail
viscid ruin
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You four uppermost flask effects appky to you vaalkek

finite quail
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replica mageblood

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your 1-2 leftmost unique flasks constantly apply their effects to you, if applicable

tranquil umbra
viral burrow
viscid ruin
cobalt blade
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but idc if it doesnt giv emove speed personally kek

lament basalt
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anyone know someone with a good kboc setup

viscid ruin
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Jokes aside

viral burrow
viscid ruin
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I heard necromancer is a good azcendancy for it

tranquil umbra
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deadeye also

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projectile moment

cosmic eagle
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it will give ms 50% charm

tranquil umbra
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the current charm effects are too dogshit for mageblood to be good with its poe1 effect

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so they will probably make it smth different

viscid ruin
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Replica mageblood

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Tinctures or unique flasks?

cosmic eagle
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mana and hp

opaque sphinx
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-1023 div

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herald of ash 8 times

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herald of purity 7 times

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herald of agony 5 times

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herald of ice twice

thick goblet
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have you tried just hitting

livid quarry
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damn almost a mirror

opaque sphinx
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hit b2bs on 4 times

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leap slam, heavy strike, cascade and one other one i cant remember

livid quarry
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i wanted to do a stranglegasp gamba but havent figured out a build that would benefit greatly

opaque sphinx
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flicker or charge stacker generally

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basically any build that really wants things on 2 dif sides of the tree

short prairie
ruby geyser
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Idk if this is irony or just straight up RNGz but I just ran 4 8 mod strongbox maps and decided to take rarity altars instead of quantity. And within those 4 maps I dropped 1x Seven Years Bad Luck, 6x raw divs, 3x risks, 1x containment, 1x bloodlines, 1x puzzlebox, and a barya man

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Like abnormal rng luck on top of other rare div cards

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Oh and also a preservation scarab which was a first

cobalt blade
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honestly surprised they have kept preservation as the rarest scarab with how valuable the scarab slot is

ruby geyser
#

Dude I didn't know what it was I had never seen it

cobalt blade
#

Usually only getting maybe 2 a league when scarab farming

cobalt blade
# opaque sphinx

at what point do you reimprint chance and add influ surely thatll help divining kek

cold sable
#

wait

#

is this additive or multiplicative with "25% reduced effect" on flask

cobalt blade
#

additive

cold sable
#

:o

#

this changes EVERYTHING ...

tawdry olive
#

(It’s not worth it usually

cobalt blade
#

one of the few situations its actually correct to mageblood pf is sanctum

#

where your unique flasks suck and youd rather consistent permanent move speed

#

almost anything else eh

gritty garnet
#

don't you just accel shrine belt swap or something

cobalt blade
#

on a pf?

tawdry olive
#

Sanctum in the year of our lord 2026 templarSad

#

But yea that true

cobalt blade
#

+without good sources of move speed elsewhere accel is worse than mageblood for raw speed

tawdry olive
#

Actually what’s the meta on osin runs these days

cobalt blade
#

Which at that point your just making a whole neew build

cobalt blade
tawdry olive
#

Besides osin, terror jewels and the bloodline I can’t think of any other reason to sanctum these days, where’s that rework ggg

nova minnow
#

ok bois

#

i lose too much dmg not running seething

#

so i got this weapon and a foulborn vigil

cobalt blade
#

think damage pen on weapons is local

nova minnow
#

it's not

#

Coz i fuked around w wands too

rocky glade
#

Honestly I like "inc elemental damage with attacks" line more

#

But pen is also good

cobalt blade
nova minnow
#

the solaris wand is p good

#

the light radius one

#

but then i might as well use maven wand

#

if i used that

cold sable
#

it was becuz of this

nova minnow
#

I can't make shattering good without a diamond belt unfortunately

even w inc crit strikes, scaling a 7% base crit to 100 sucks

onyx adder
#

Ur prolly getting confused with the local mod

#

Attacks with this weapon penetrate blablabla

#

That one is more common mod and its the one on paradoxica

#

So u see it more

cobalt blade
#

ye prolly

short prairie
#

Im home

#

I can finally play

nova minnow
#

Now i gotta look for a ostention thats good

short prairie
#

all ostentations are equal

nova minnow
#

Some are more equal than others

short prairie
#

UHM if you say find a timeless thats good and have ostentation then ill agree

nova minnow
short prairie
nova minnow
#

If ostention replaced zealot oath

#

its bad

short prairie
#

im just messing with you

nova minnow
#

I dont even know if i need ostention

#

idk wtf im doing

short prairie
nova minnow
#

helmet, armor, amulet, rings, boots all empty

#

All the nerds converting phys to cold

short prairie
#

mappers kind of pog

tawdry olive
#

Would you like some more damage to go with your damage

short prairie
#

the answer is always yes

#

abyss jewels are good for flats

#

and crit multis

#

i love ethem

#

way to cap shock avoid too

#

for stormshroud

gritty epoch
#

That is a crazy good jewel ngl

tawdry olive
#

Abyss socket my beloved

#

These days with storm shroud I find the problem is not shock avoid

#

It’s getting a slot to put storm shroud lmao

#

Why the fuck is every build so socket starved god help me

short prairie
#

i wish im a dagger andy

short prairie
#

more clusters

gritty epoch
#

Voices /s

silent leaf
tawdry olive
# gritty epoch Voices /s

Quite often I’m like: of course I’ll use voices that will solve the problem!

And then I find out my cluster jewel is actually giving me 18 spell block or smth and I can’t give it up kek

short prairie
#

just craft those

#

ez

hard cliff
tawdry olive
#

Like well I can but then the extra points and socket used to solve that just means I wasted it kek

hard cliff
#

happy about finding those magic sand things

#

catalyst

#

expensive though

short prairie
#

wrong base smh

#

i need lich

tawdry olive
#

Holy..

nova minnow
knotty geyser
#

can tree drop overqual items

tawdry olive
#

Yes

knotty geyser
#

never actually clicked that node

tawdry olive
#

It’s a good source of it in fact

#

You’re missing out so much if you’re doing provisioning lmao

#

Those are the jackpot especially with good fracture

knotty geyser
#

happens

short prairie
tawdry olive
#

Tbh the tree is a super consistent money source if you want to bother with provisioning gifts, spend some time just checking the rares and you can get casual 20div from a couple

#

Twilight regalia and sacred chainmail bases

#

If you don’t want to, just buy mysterious and roll for ancients it’s guaranteed profit

#

But well that’s kinda boring

knotty geyser
#

when im using tree its not usually for profit until mid league

#

i play trade the wrong way when it comes to rare gear tbh

thick goblet
tawdry olive
#

I thought it was the 3rd best base but turns out it’s level 39

#

Don’t think the quality will make up for it

cold sable
#

what is the body armor used for support animate guardian

#

is it still garb of ephemeral?

short prairie
zinc galleon
#

im done

#

had to atleast get the full set before poe 2

slate compass
#

I gots it too

#

Tiers was so long to get like damn didnt do it

#

why not just shill for the map 🙁 woulda been easier

zinc galleon
#

aint no way

blazing nymph
zinc galleon
#

i was paying divs for that

slate compass
#

Why is the armor set so bad compared to poe2s

#

🙁

zinc galleon
#

its not that bad

blazing nymph
zinc galleon
#

i like it

zinc galleon
#

also betrayal lol

blazing nymph
#

And betrayal is a form of cancer, sure. But if you're going to play that efficiently, why not just buy it? Especially if you're exiting the league anyway

zinc galleon
#

because idc about totems

#

my hideout is literally a box

blazing nymph
#

And you're saying the incredibly phallic totem has no place in a box? Ok...

zinc galleon
#

it dont fit

#

in my box

opaque sphinx
#

nah actually fucking cursed

#

1239 div

#

herald of ash 11 FUCKING TIMES

agile solstice
stuck phoenix
#

Well, you are going to get something a lot of times

tranquil umbra
#

ok now roll it again for 10% reservation

stuck phoenix
#

that's statistically likely

agile solstice
#

I swear I saw you earlier xdd

onyx adder
opaque sphinx
#

HoT

onyx adder
#

This is just chris wilson reaching out from retirement

#

To tell u that ur build is dog shit

#

And u should not play it

tawdry olive
#

Did you say the magic words before every attempt

onyx adder
#

Dont ignore the signs

opaque sphinx
#

herald of ash 11 times
herald of purity 7 times
herald of agony 5 times
herald of ice twice

#

its not even that massive of an upgrade b ut like holy fuck dude just give me it

tawdry olive
#

Hi I’m Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games. It’ll work trust the vision.

nova minnow
#

Is heatshiver strong 🤔

silent leaf
#

in general? yes

nova minnow
#

oh geez

silent leaf
#

its like what, 60% extra fire

nova minnow
#

How do you choose between Yoke of Suffering and Utmost?

silent leaf
#

idk i never got utmost kek

spice pecan
#

i actually don't know why people use utmost

silent leaf
#

i fucking hate maven

#

max res + suppress

#

also its a mini soul eater by base

spice pecan
#

there's got to be zero universe where that's what your amulet slot is being used for

silent leaf
#

like 1/4 or smth

#

eh idk theres ppl running leadership price while secrets of suffering

#

exist

split maple
#

If proper rolled

spice pecan
#

yeah deadeyes are the only ones i really see using it

#

crazy that they wouldn't just use like a crit multi heist amulet or something

normal hedge
#

only if u're stacking rarity tbh

split maple
#

Well folks also do misted iir + crit/edwa heist ammyes yea

spice pecan
#

oh true utmost is gold amulet base, so yeah i guess it's for mf

normal hedge
#

no

#

i was talking about simplex

spice pecan
#

i see

normal hedge
#

crit multi + double rarity

spice pecan
#

then again i don't believe in solo mfing in trade league

#

without titanic exiles SADGE

split maple
#

Its not so much dedicated MF as breach blasting

nova minnow
#

the stupid SST build

#

is looking like a flicker strike build

split maple
#

So Strong currency strat anyways

nova minnow
#

all roads lead to flicker

normal hedge
#

esm was talking about the mirage rogue exile

#

looks promising

spice pecan
#

maybe i should try some t0 strat in trade

silent leaf
#

y'all think they keeping mirage as like wildwoods?

spice pecan
#

thats probably the only way they can tbh

normal hedge
#

i wouldnt complain

#

well i would

#

because cord belt is already rare enough

silent leaf
#

I wouldn't mind making it a league mech too tbh but dunno how they even balance that

#

Maybe like vaal side areas or gift of the goddesses lmao

#

20% per map

spice pecan
#

vaal side areas need some love tbh

tranquil sedge
spice pecan
#

you literally just sit there and roll them like a bozo praying for adorned fragments

rocky glade
#

I have a hot take but I wish there are Atlas Passive Tree for Viridian Wildwood and Sentinels

silent leaf
tranquil sedge
#

cold take

#

give us more stuff indeed

rocky glade
#

Oh its not? Nvm

spice pecan
rocky glade
#

Sentinel needs a buff

rocky glade
#

Seriously its a dead mechanic at this point

tranquil sedge
#

yep

silent leaf
#

I mean, sentinels are just, better Ghosted right

spice pecan
#

ive said this like 10 times but like, they kept the pitiful torment mechanic in the game but removed harbingers

silent leaf
#

Or rather better implemented

tranquil sedge
#

honestly

#

prefer ghosts over sentinel

#

with the way you can't do shit to juice sentinel

rocky glade
#

Honestly just make the Sentinels fly on their own throughout the area and blasting at enemies instead of following yoi

silent leaf
#

I kinda rather like sentinel cause

#

You get to choose when to use

tranquil sedge
#

can't make it spawn consistently, can't make it last longer, can't do any frags with it

spice pecan
#

yeah i mean whenever i get a robot i just pop it on the first pack i see

silent leaf
#

Rather than fucking ghosted rares

tranquil sedge
#

sentinel is pretty useless

#

oh dont forget

#

you dont even get any sentinel specific loot

#

like no exclusive recombination modifiers

#

nothing

silent leaf
#

Ghosted does?

tranquil sedge
#

no but i can actually force ghosts to spawn

#

to juice my rares

#

and i can use the other scarabs if i want

#

and there's atl east a few atlas nodes for it

rocky glade
#

Sentinel feels like it belongs in 2 more than 1
The way the game works in 1 is you see mons you kill mons, no time to wait for a robot to shoot their loot beams at the mons to empower them
2 at least has a slower pace (for now) so you can justify having them doing that

tranquil sedge
#

even if its not much, its there a little

spice pecan
#

i did really like in the qna for 3.28 how ziggy asked "can synthesis maps.. drop synth items, maybe?" and octavian was like "uhh... probably"

tranquil sedge
#

they REMOVED the content it had

#

then didnt add anything back

#

and the best part

spice pecan
#

yeah

tranquil sedge
#

it doesnt even hurt anyone at the top

#

like, nobody cares

#

you just roll for synth and its more expensive

rocky glade
#

There is literally no way to make Sentinels good other than going to a map where its impossible to kill monsters in one or two hits

tranquil sedge
#

meanwhile the extra few synth bases that woulda supplied into the market dont exist anymore

#

casuals can't yolo send uber cortex for 3synth items anymore

#

its just stupid as fuck

#

'we removed it, we'll add it back in 10 leagues time guys dont worry!!!'

spice pecan
#

but dont worry, you get to click 500 individual gcps in a synth map, sometimes

#

!!!

tranquil sedge
#

lol

nova minnow
#

ok so if i use yoke, my cold dmg can shock 50%?

thick goblet
#

sure

nova minnow
#

should've been elementalist instead UHM

tranquil sedge
#

2 things specifically

#
  • synth maps dropping synth bases by killing the monsters in them
#
  • uber cortex guarantee one triple synth rare drop of a completely random basetype with random implicits
silent leaf
#

Oh well they going to do the same with mercenary p sure

#

Kek

tranquil sedge
#

at least with mercs we were told they are interested in doing something with them

#

synth was just lol fuck you we're removing it

#

even though heist base changes did take away a little of demand for synth

#

as well as misting

#

ultimately only casuals are affected negatively by those 2 changes

#

which is stupid

#

and it has basically no bearing on anyone else, except maybe changing profit viability of uber cortex depending on demand for its items and feared profit/hr and stuff

and ofc makes synth supply lower but hey if ur rich wat does it matter if you pay more kek still gonna get what you want

spice pecan
#

when did heist amulets actually start getting used btw?

#

weren't they kind of unused during/after heist for a while?

tranquil sedge
#

3.23

full kraken
#

I feel like they should add more interesting synth implicits that make them worth considering

tranquil sedge
tranquil sedge
split maple
#

hmm the actual economic impact there is then less 3synth bases for rolling available (so droping t1 base with any 3impl lil jackpot) and the few synths which are desirable even on 1impl or 2impl base (explodeys, %attrib, charge ones, life on block)

spice pecan
#

ah right, forgot about the affliction change

tranquil sedge
#

there is currently no target farm for synth gear except as a byproduct from ritual or literally creating the gear with harvest

split maple
#

which are mainly rare af by default

#

so would add some jackpot to synth maps

spice pecan
#

i also like how they act like a magic item having modifiers is/was a bug

tranquil sedge
#

and who ultimately runs synth maps

#

nobody who values time

full kraken
#

I have no idea why they removed synth implicit drops from synth maps

tranquil sedge
#

i.e. ssf or casuals

#

so like

#

these are all changes that don't hurt good players

opaque sphinx
#

excuse you

split maple
tranquil sedge
#

which is the stupidest kind of change

opaque sphinx
#

i love synth maps

tranquil sedge
#

l0l

spice pecan
#

they're actually alright exp

opaque sphinx
#

when they are synth maps

tranquil sedge
spice pecan
#

yeah

#

they have 100% increased exp mod on them iirc

nova minnow
#

uber cortex gives me exp

thick goblet
#

yeah why did they nerf synth in the first place
i dont think i was playing then

opaque sphinx
#

i run synth rotas for xp and money usually

split maple
onyx adder
#

Synth maps are very strong solo xp in a certain range

opaque sphinx
#

but i also just miss synth maps dropping synth stuff

onyx adder
#

Much less setup than breach

spice pecan
tranquil sedge
#

i see

onyx adder
#

U just put in the map and blast

tranquil sedge
#

gotcha

#

well if i can't find 5 way rotas on tft in a couple days time

#

i guess ill try some synth bois

onyx adder
#

Just not at high level because theyre i80

#

Not i83

silent leaf
opaque sphinx
#

at 98 its like 5% per rota and 3-4% at 99

silent leaf
#

Lmfao

tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

if u full clear

silent leaf
#

3.14 and released back in 3.23

opaque sphinx
#

i usually full but skip the shit layout one and just boss rush that one

#

with the broken walls and w/e everywhere

tranquil sedge
onyx adder
#

Sounds like u just hate walls

tranquil sedge
#

this is a synth map rota u mean?

onyx adder
#

Ye

nova minnow
#

u can do a maven invitation

onyx adder
#

Its bad at high level because only i80

tranquil sedge
#

4% at 99?

#

the heck

opaque sphinx
#

yeh like 3.5%

onyx adder
#

Its much stronger xp relatively at low levels

tranquil sedge
#

those maps are not even hard to run

opaque sphinx
#

yup

tranquil sedge
#

thats a big xp number relative to that

#

dam

opaque sphinx
#

and decent profit if u run the invites after

onyx adder
#

Its ok

opaque sphinx
#

cuz chisel

onyx adder
#

Its a full clear on a bunch of maps

tranquil sedge
onyx adder
#

So its not super fast

opaque sphinx
#

its not the best but its lazy and easy and not a money sink

tranquil sedge
#

but those are easy maps

onyx adder
#

Its easy tho

full kraken
onyx adder
#

What it is better at is blasting when ur level 70

#

U dont even have to do the boss or the invite if u dont wanna

opaque sphinx
#

but u should cuz chisels are moni

#

its less now with n o woke gems tho

tranquil sedge
#

right

full kraken
#

okay so, theoretical lmao build

Option 1: Viper strike self chill with momentum, but now I gotta click it every 8s or so:

tranquil sedge
#

can you even control at that point l0l

#

thats nuts

full kraken
#

Option 2: fuck that just use 3x highwayman, and now we are a genuinely truly ZERO button build

#

like this is full on our perma movespeed all the time as soon as we enter the heist, we never need to click shit

tranquil sedge
#

zero button

#

zero button for sure

spice pecan
#

we take zero button

#

300 ms at that point is utterly arbitrary

#

and you are hard timegated by doors anyways with that kind of ms

#

so 300 ms extra will speed up your heist exactly zero besides for the occasional zero door exit

full kraken
#

So baseline itd be
Phase Run - Withering Step - Automation - Enhance - Eclipse - ??? - Lifetap(imbue)

#

What would we want to put in as last socket? Molten shell maybe?

tranquil sedge
#

ive been telling myself i need to try that in delve

#

at some point gonna do it

full kraken
#

yeah I like the sound of that

tranquil sedge
#

molten shell is useless if u dont have enough armor

full kraken
#

eclipse gets us a lil bit more speed too

heady cliff
full kraken
heady cliff
forest flower
#

you can automate phase run with withering step? i thought you could only have 1 active at once

heady cliff
#

two small rooms with doors side by side on the way in for example

#

with bad basic mobs

forest flower
#

i vaguely remember something like 1 travel skill + 1 guard skill max

thick goblet
split maple
#

blinks have shared cooldown

#

and you only have 1 of them (withering step) so its ok

blissful zodiac
#

gimme grenade launchers in poe 1

onyx adder
onyx adder
#

Poe1 has:

  • crafting
  • endgame
  • build variety
  • bossing
  • blowing up heaps of mobs

Poe2 has:

  • grenades
#

Its a difficult choice genuinely

blissful zodiac
#

oh thats easy

#

the choice is

onyx adder
#

If i had crossbows in poe1 the game would be perfect

tranquil sedge
#

no thanks we'd get crossbows and then seven slop items from there in the process

#

this game has taught us one golden rule

#

ggg can't add good things without adding bad things too

blissful zodiac
#

crazy story

#

anyways grenades go boom

tranquil sedge
#

also their passive tree is omegalol dogshit
imagine tryna squeeze crossbows into poe1 tree lol

spice pecan
#

when looking at your unique weapon in pob, does anyone else not get any real time dps change when looking at heist enchants? the harvest enchants properly show the gains/losses if applied, but the heist enchants do not

blissful zodiac
#

and more explosion more fun

tranquil sedge
spice pecan
#

in this case i'm looking at replica dreamfeather with something like phys/speed heist enchant

tranquil sedge
#

(coz they're not)

spice pecan
#

it... doesn't say anything you're right

#

that's really odd that they aren't supported

#

it's just like... increase the explicit phys values by 8%, pob does way harder math than that

#

didn't hit anyways

tranquil sedge
#

😮

spice pecan
#

i hit speed/reduced attr at first but it didn't increase the 10% AS explicit

#

didn't bother to check the actual aps but i assume it didn't change if the explicit didn't change

opaque sphinx
#

FINALLY

tranquil sedge
#

pog

#

hm divs

thick goblet
#

pog

#

how much more dps

opaque sphinx
#

1342

forest flower
tranquil sedge
opaque sphinx
#

yeah 900% not worth it

#

but

#

the game didn't win this time

short prairie
#

whos the cutest pinnacle

#

boss

tranquil sedge
#

||yo mama||

nova minnow
#

cutest not fattest

short prairie
#

it's veritania

nova minnow
#

U asked for picolo

#

vertuna is not a fish

short prairie
#

verita tuna

#

the wrong wind

#

couldve been grey wind

split maple
spice pecan
#

i thought OP said he was playing double strike?

short prairie
split maple
#

a bit unethical config there (didnt set trauma so pob defaults to max reachable stacks)

livid quarry
#

dunno how it works

split maple
#

but still hits ok numbers on low traumas

livid quarry
#

the build

split maple
#

trauma gets you flat dmg but damages you

livid quarry
#

oh thats why he uses the weapon

split maple
#

so basically how much trauma you get is math of how long one stack lasts x how fast you get stacks x how many you can survive without killing yourself

#

x enough targets to hit ofc 😄

#

so theoretically he can reach 170 trauma stacks, but that assumess more than 10sec of hitting a target

short prairie
#

what am i looking at

#

oh he has tainted pact

split maple
#

but like already at 2sec ramp he gets almost 70mil dps

#

and if anything survives that he ramps more

short prairie
#

flicker ramp is kind of... scuffed

#

wait

#

wheres his frenzy gen

nocturne maple
#

Boots

short prairie
split maple
#

trauma hits u

spice pecan
#

he hits himself

nocturne maple
#

On hit

short prairie
#

oh

nocturne maple
#

Not when hit

short prairie
#

not enemy