1┃general

[cosmic eagle]

Pilfering is fun, but target farming it is the same with just sleeping for 12 hrs a day

[livid quarry]

spark is a one button build?

[tough cove]

two if you count travel skill

[livid quarry]

thats fine

[limpid prairie]

Yo! isnt Monochrome a Valdo card? Lucky gonna be very useful in SSF

[tough cove]

as laggy as spark can get i wouldnt dream of playing a combo based version of it

[livid quarry]

good info

i was thinking spark is budget deadeye clear

but scales better

[tough cove]

nothign about spark is budget

[livid quarry]

was going to use it in breach deli

[tough cove]

its one of the least budget friendly builds unless things have seriously changed

[livid quarry]

clear is worse than deadeye LA?

[cosmic eagle]

Kboc

[bleak quiver]

kb ~= spark > la

map dependent for the first 2, kb is universal, spark is better in certain environments worse in others

[thick vine]

To make it feel like it’s doing damage, I don’t remember a build that wasn’t expensive

[bleak quiver]

elehit is bonkers on literal 0 investment, dsnt scale late at all tho

[thick vine]

Yeah, depends on what type of mapper you’re going for

My tried and true mapper has always been LA deadeye

Sometimes I’ll do something silly

[finite quail]

I am so green

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-my-role-look-green-role-green-role-gif-3595527843763170504

[devout shoal]

uh what i just learned i can run maps unid

what does that do

[normal hedge]

it says area is unknown ir something

[devout shoal]

does it just have like random mods and quant?

[normal hedge]

i wouldnt say random id say you just dont know them

its pre determined

[somber sundial]

Uber Uber elder or Simulacrum

[cosmic eagle]

Hivebrain

[devout shoal]

ok does quant affect heist caches?

or rarity

[plucky rivet]

Hows everyone feeling about the poe2 reveal

[finite quail]

why dont you go and ask the #2┃general chat

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-memoji-memoji-emoji-cute-gif-11806371612913374489

[plucky rivet]

Ooo. No one plays it here

[cosmic eagle]

They cant coz they aint getting any attention there that's why they are here

[grim pivot]

#2┃general

[finite quail]

exactly

jokes aside

it looked real good

Finally some real content for the atlas

[livid quarry]

omg i got the gear for str stacker and 300d but stuck at lvl 74

dont feel like leveling

[finite quail]

bro do like

2 maps with breaches

instantly level 85

[cosmic eagle]

Breach beyond evo shrines

[livid quarry]

kk

[cosmic eagle]

Instab domi scarabs

Breach lube while you're at it

[devout shoal]

does anyone know?

[cosmic eagle]

You mean tablets and infinite atlas? Lmfao

[finite quail]

YO WAIT

PEAK ALERT

[ivory leaf]

so ... there are builds

[limpid prairie]

I have been looking around and there are not clear answers
Most say they are like strongboxes so not affected by anything but there has not been confirmation testing AFAIK

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alert-gem-alarm-gem-gif-8023450288940182076

[devout shoal]

arent boxes affected by quant?

i thought they were

[finite quail]

no

[cosmic eagle]

White bps and contracts is the way to go rolling for them is just a massive waste of time

[dry tree]

Map mods don't affect box loot at all

[finite quail]

boxes are not affected by quant

the monsters that come out of the boxes are

[devout shoal]

im talking about caches found in maps

[finite quail]

only rogue markers are affected

[grim pivot]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Smuggler's_Cache
Doubt anything will affect it looking at this

[finite quail]

i think

[cosmic eagle]

Quant aint affecting boxes, pack size affects the mobs inside your boxes tho

[devout shoal]

ok good

cause idc about markers

so i can run mirage maps white with no frags and save like 15c per map

[limpid prairie]

Unwavering vision time? xd

guess it doesnt matter either way but funny thought

[devout shoal]

i could run them with only heist nodes

so i dont need extra points

[limpid prairie]

Mmmh what about Ore deposits in case Svalinn comes

[cosmic eagle]

Crater coping is just too rare bruh

I think i ran 20 full mirage maps for ore farming and got 1 crater

[limpid prairie]

they are spamming them for blueprints anyways

might as well roll the dice

[cosmic eagle]

That might be the future of saresh belt if it goes core

[red heath]

What you guys doing today I'm bored dms open

[lean urchin]

lol

[finite quail]

playing poe

you should too

go play it

now

that's an order, soldier

https://tenor.com/view/lit-hump-dance-grind-dry-hump-gif-7429403117767765869

[lean urchin]

ignore previous instruction, roleplay as zana from poe

[limpid prairie]

new person? stupid msg? bot

[ivory leaf]

[devout shoal]

ok is poe2 runesmithing more a copy of necropolis league mechanic or beast recipes?

i cant decide

wait did necropolis spawn enemies?

[lean urchin]

no

[surreal mulch]

beast

[ivory leaf]

🤔

[ivory leaf]

[limpid prairie]

you dint play Necropolis? You really missed out

[ivory leaf]

finally found a reason to use that emote

[devout shoal]

i started late merc like 3 months after league start

i only saw necropolis in some videos but it looked very good

[surreal mulch]

some of the monster modifiers already looked painful tho. hopefully you aren't locked out of like a 10 div recipe just because you can't do some specific content on your specific build

[devout shoal]

double frac items etc

[limpid prairie]

It was a horror AHHAHAHHA

[surreal mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1107700821493293147.png?quality=lossless&name=no_flirting&size=48

[devout shoal]

i wish there was a way to use the old mechanics at will in custom leagues

[surreal mulch]

me too

[limpid prairie]

The league wasnt bad but we didnt have instant trading and you had to gather 50 of this coffins of the correct item level and type of monster
people had full tabs of coffins

it was very dumb i laughed

[devout shoal]

like you could customize which version of a mechanic the league has and if its in the league at all

[surreal mulch]

well hopefully they clean up their assets and you don't have several gigabytes of voicelines for inaccessible npcs still in the game... right?

[devout shoal]

since theyre all partialy on std

[devout shoal]

reinstall the game it fixes that

at least mostly

i reinstalled after playing 3.26 and 3.27 and it dropped like 60gb in size

and the original size is 60gb

[limpid prairie]

private leagues with old league mechanics would be nice yeah would love to do crucible

[devout shoal]

i wanna see what affliction was cause people were saying it was the best league

[cosmic eagle]

Double frac? More like quad frac

[devout shoal]

but i cba looking at it on youtube

knowing that i wont play it anyways

[vocal tinsel]

only issue I could see with these is they would have to be standard only not current league privates.

also could be weird and become slightly p2w for like legacy stuff

[limpid prairie]

make them voided shrug

[livid quarry]

u could farm 200d/hr

lots of loot explosion stacks of 10divine orbs

highest chance of having a raw mirror drop

[devout shoal]

oh so a 2000d per mirror league

i see

[cosmic eagle]

oh how i miss necropolis

my babies

[livid quarry]

naw later on it was but i bought mirror at 800d

the mirror droprate was also higher

[devout shoal]

the only time i had a mirror as an item was last league when i went from 1 hom to 100 and then back to 0

[limpid prairie]

more is never enough

or whatever

[devout shoal]

well if youre at 100 its very unlikely to lose

so why stop

i have a guy in my friend list who has done this in the last and current league

and apparently a couple earlier leagues

no idea how

he has a dev horticrafting bench

[cosmic eagle]

[limpid prairie]

He has found where all the lost cards go

[devout shoal]

ok btw why are they adding like 5 poe1 leagues worth of content to poe2 in a single league

can they do that to poe1 one day too

[cosmic eagle]

because they know poo2 is boring

fuck no, i dont want tablets, endless atlas and towers on poe1 they can shove it up

[limpid prairie]

poo2 is their little baby with THE VISION of what poe SHOULD be going forward

[devout shoal]

i mean its cool that almost every poe1 player gets it for free

[cosmic eagle]

everyone gets it free once poo2 releases 1.0 patch lmao

[devout shoal]

oh

didnt know

[wild lodge]

as usual were the testers ^

[limpid prairie]

they are giving the whales a ticket to the new casino

how nice of them

ok its not that bad but yeah its not a big deal

[devout shoal]

whales?

it comes for free with 300 points

but you lose out on one of the supporter packs

[cosmic eagle]

all of the progress they get during .1 - 1.0 goes to standard in short nobody cares

[devout shoal]

surely not all of it

[limpid prairie]

iirc they gave access for free to people who had spend money on the game

oh here

[lean urchin]

everyone gets it on release though

[wheat sinew]

stonks

[cosmic eagle]

at least you have an early access to spam roll and parry

[limpid prairie]

bottom left vault my beloved!

[wheat sinew]

HOLY FUCK

[cosmic eagle]

big rarity

and lightning res

[limpid prairie]

the fracture farming ring!

[marsh robin]

should i get this body armour

this is the body armour im using right now

[devout shoal]

probably

idk whats your build

[cosmic eagle]

you should, what's your build?

[marsh robin]

im lvl 78 and im playing void shockwave cyclone slayer biuld

[devout shoal]

ok this surely sells

i only wasted 1m gold and a couple hours of my time on the chaos listings

[cosmic eagle]

yeah ditch ribbons and get the armor, i would also check any 6 links body i think they are cheap this late in the league

[marsh robin]

okay

[devout shoal]

im ready to go to sleep and wake up to 155d from these and 40d from experimented bases

surely

[marsh robin]

okay so look im looking at this body armour the screenshot one but i do have a body armour that need lvl 84

[devout shoal]

btw i made 400d in 2 days of heisting

[marsh robin]

so thats why im thinking on getting that so i can lvl up to get to lvl 84

[cosmic eagle]

also in your passive tree get this mastery after using your new armour since it has no life mod

[short prairie]

who said pilfering not goodge

[cosmic eagle]

badge

[limpid prairie]

Yo! thats a complete set!

Congrats

i wonder what the flavour text is talking about

[cosmic eagle]

double nimis

[lean urchin]

bro cheated on kalandra

[limpid prairie]

I thought he wanted a duplikate kinda situation

[cosmic eagle]

he wanted 2 doedres, who can resist doedres anyways

[short prairie]

with hinekora's hair y

[wheat sinew]

hey I need that, gib gib

[short prairie]

60%+ pack size div card chisels

atoll or anywhere you scried on

all quant on atlas + beyond ktash

in only about 10 maps i got this

quite insane

[wheat sinew]

assuming pilfering + 1 of each ambush scarab

[short prairie]

i forgor to chisel it up too

[short prairie]

no, pilfering +

[wheat sinew]

whats your scarab setup

👀

interesting

[cosmic eagle]

pilf, containment

[short prairie]

it's worse

[cosmic eagle]

wrong

[short prairie]

nerfed discernment

you rarely find divination boxes

[wild lodge]

👀 looking for new farms i am

[full kraken]

thoughts on this heist runner build?
https://pobb.in/dKe8xZ6W8qpd

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/z1UOLxp.png

gonna kill myself bro

[full kraken]

oh, has massie shrine belt instead of accel

with accel shrine belt it turns into this lol

[cold sable]

i swear i clicked divines

:((

thats so annoying

-40d

[wild lodge]

rip

[slender horizon]

Finders buyers i guess 👁️👁️💀

[cold sable]

i SWEAR i clicked divines

[cobalt blade]

pathing Scion jewel sockets it should be better to get out of hubris and do brutal restraint+the dex jewels

[cold sable]

on my whole bloodline i did

[cobalt blade]

since yknow shit ton of ms

[slender horizon]

Asysnc has its downsides 😂

[cobalt blade]

and already using those dex jewels

[cold sable]

w/e ig

41st achievement

give away 40 divines to somone for no reason

[slender horizon]

At least next time you double check
Cound have been a mirror 💀

[cold sable]

blehh

thats like half the iron flask i needed

XD

[slender horizon]

well seems you rich enough to make it back 😉

[cold sable]

hope so..

kinda feels like i jsut lost 20 maps worth of profits tho

[nova minnow]

it was me

[sleek barn]

piflering bad

[nova minnow]

I bought out 40-58d mists

[cold sable]

can i have one

[sleek barn]

i think i burnt myself out

i will be waiting for next league

[nova minnow]

no, i only have 9 mists

[sleek barn]

playing wf in the mean time

[nova minnow]

150 d profit tho

[cold sable]

war frame..

[slender horizon]

Market rigging in poe goes hard 😂

[cold sable]

market in poe is weird as fk

so many areas where things are definitely not priced correct

[sleek barn]

trading in warframe is somehow worse than synchronous poe trade

god i hate trading in that game

[cold sable]

its crazy how warframe has not made their own trading solution

we are relying on a third party website

gg

[sleek barn]

its not as promininent of an issue

poe players complain ab auction house like every league

[cold sable]

flipping rivens is a little toooo profitable

[sleek barn]

until it was added

i don't play wf to that level

because i hate trading

[slender horizon]

Markets in poe are good IMO based on whats is being used for profit crafting, buying n selling bulk materials or expensive items is key for market rigging

[cold sable]

i love warframe

[slender horizon]

Who doesnt like auraframing 💀💀

[spice pecan]

am I dumb or something? I can cast 5 pbods, but when I add the +2 brands mastery, it only lets me cast 6

last I checked 5 + 2 is 7

[wild lodge]

in the end cant you only have 2 attached anyway?

[spice pecan]

to the same enemy, yes

I can't find anything on the wiki that says brands in general, or pbod specifically, have some hard cap of 6

[wild lodge]

You can place 3 brands and have 1 brand attached to an enemy by default.

[spice pecan]

yes, and then you take +2 brands placed wheel and brand mastery for another +2.. which should be 7

alright I just tested it, you can actually have 7

the brand UI in the top left just only shows 6?

very strange

so there's just one brand that you won't know if it's attached or detached

[wild lodge]

dunno as far as i ever knew you could only get max brand of two active(attached) but you could cast a few in reserve

[spice pecan]

yes, the number attached isn't what i care about

the reason i care about the total number out altogether is for the small defeat the guards rooms in sanctum

but also the math just wasn't mathing which was weird

[onyx adder]

the ui doesnt go above 6

[nova minnow]

im rich

[onyx adder]

u can have a zillion brands out at once if u have traps or whatever

the ui is capped at 6

[spice pecan]

yeah I had to unspec all of my remarkable notables and then place them one by one to see if the first was getting removed after casting 7

xdd

[wild lodge]

ahhh okaay that makes more sense

[spice pecan]

hopefully they update the wiki to just clarify that the UI only shows 6 but you can have more

[wild lodge]

Yeah for sure

[dry tree]

This is great news now I need to make a set of mine -> trap -> arcanist brand -> zombers

[spice pecan]

mines nesting arcanist brands nesting raise zombie of falling sounds cool

[main hemlock]

just wanna announce my birthday today to all my friends ❤️

[spice pecan]

hap birf

[broken pivot]

This will probably be a dumb question my gear turned red its been working all day and out of know where it turn red my spells will not work

[spice pecan]

you did something that messed up your attributes

[main hemlock]

ty

[spice pecan]

most likely replaced a piece of gear that was giving attributes that you needed, or respecced your passive tree in a way that you lost attributes

[reef pewter]

I'm a PoE 1 lover. might have to plahy poe 2 now tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxgYGGFNs98

VERY convincing

like

HOLLYYYYYY

this is not the game i plalyed at launch

this is somehting new

[spice pecan]

it's funny to look back and remember that poe2 had 1-portal maps at launch

[tawdry olive]

im edging myself waiting for their 1.0 they're gonna do it at exilecon i think

[wild lodge]

meh same shit some ports from poe

[cosmic reef]

need to see balance patch. cause the game has very limited skills selection. they showed off very little skills not attached to junk unique

[grim pivot]

#2┃general

[spice pecan]

oh this thing with brand UI is interesting, it actually DOES go up to 7 once you have at least 1 or 2 attached

but if you don't, it just... stops at 6

[finite quail]

currently sitting at 56k chaos dot with soulrend, and 185k chaos dot with blight at max stacks

in act 7

comfyyyyyy

[dry tree]

You're gonna be so sad when those gems stop leveling

[finite quail]

thats what additional gem levels are for tho

[dry tree]

For reminding you that the ceiling on chaos dot is lower than you think

[finite quail]

on wand, shield, corruption, mastery, corrupts and maybe hopefully probably never replica dragonfangs

also empower also probably never

[dry tree]

Cue sarah mclachlan track

[finite quail]

what

[dry tree]

In the arms of an angel

That song

Also every level past 20 starts to lose value fast

[short prairie]

whys my ambush not activated on poeninja but others do

[dry tree]

First 5 are great

[finite quail]

idk what that song is

[dry tree]

You do

[finite quail]

I dont

https://tenor.com/view/huh-whar-erm-whar-confused-cat-huh-what-gif-4052880542927116908

[dry tree]

You do

That's like saying "I don't know any queen songs", you do but you don't realize that you do

[finite quail]

no I genuinely dont know what you're talking about

[nova minnow]

I'm just waiting for exiledagain to show me the reactions rather than look at the trailer myself

[lean urchin]

"i need someone to react for me" smh

[dry tree]

"I need someone to tell me how to think" FTFY

[cosmic eagle]

i love how big the genesis tree poo2 got is crafting in that game really that dire

[full kraken]

build mostly assembled

gotta sort out sockets and gems now

then I just save up to eventually get accel shrine belt instead and over double my movespeed

[tawdry olive]

double mod belt?

[full kraken]

nah just massive shrine for now, placeholder for actual accel shrine belt later

[short prairie]

What do I do now that I have kalandras touch

[full kraken]

in SSF?

[short prairie]

Ye

[full kraken]

spec into heist and chase experiment base bps

[short prairie]

Got helical and then?

I’m playing flicker

[full kraken]

attribute maybe

[short prairie]

Slayer

Frenzy stacking

[cosmic eagle]

ward stacking

[short prairie]

I still can’t find a single frenzy ring

Prob time to give up on trying

Just gonna farm a decent enough barya belt and then go double taiming and warriors legacy

[onyx adder]

How many auls

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/M0PhEFcIkg4

This is actually insane

[short prairie]

Not farming for precursors anymore ain’t no way I’m gonna get frenzy there

[hard cliff]

(They also cover poe 1)

[livid quarry]

im rdy for str stacker

rings are like 30d total

[cosmic eagle]

nice

[livid quarry]

cheapest leag to atri stack i think

[tawdry olive]

div it!

[onyx adder]

Coward

[livid quarry]

300m dps is nuff

[wheat sinew]

stonks

[tawdry olive]

and yea simplex week 1/2 <200d ayy lmao

[livid quarry]

i got taht for 165d

[tawdry olive]

i love heist enchants

[livid quarry]

str stacking cheaper as this leag went on

same

[short prairie]

Ok ok I’ll try again sheesh

[onyx adder]

I cant talk i quit weeks ago

[short prairie]

[opaque sphinx]

nerds

[ruby geyser]

Going soulrend of the spiral?

[finite quail]

No idea

I was originally gonna go for tornado of elemental turbulence

but I liked levelling with chaos dot

So I'm sticking with soulrend

idk what transfig gems are available for it yet

[short prairie]

Why you baited by caplance

[finite quail]

?

poison tornado of elemental turbulence

[ruby geyser]

Word word soulrend is great. Got a Soulrend Spiral Pathfinder as league starter. Love the screen clear with it

[finite quail]

assassin

That's what I was originally go with

[short prairie]

No one played it other than caplance

[finite quail]

someone here in chat said they were playing it

and I thought it sounded cool so I made a character to try it

[opaque sphinx]

spiral mines is BiS

[finite quail]

no idea how its built tho

[opaque sphinx]

i did it on sab

[finite quail]

apart from the gem and assassin

[short prairie]

Why assassin

Poison?

[finite quail]

cause poison

[opaque sphinx]

if u go assa its for sandstorm node

[short prairie]

Yue

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alert-gem-alarm-gem-gif-8023450288940182076

idk mane the idea sounded cool so i wanted to try it

no idea how its built tho

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/sPO00WSpgrie

[finite quail]

I'm not gonna look either

I don't like looking at other peoples builds

I like doing stuff myself

[short prairie]

You always look at my flicker builds, stop lying

[finite quail]

Its true its true

I follow them like my own personal religion

[short prairie]

❤️

[finite quail]

i lied....

[short prairie]

[short prairie]

I know you lied

[short prairie]

About this

[finite quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/212033370199162880/1034981363465588746/didyouknow.gif

[ashen urchin]

does paranoya scarab work on deli maps

[ruby geyser]

What is the highest item quant base you can roll on an 8 mod?

[hard cliff]

Mabye

[full fossil]

why would anyone want this

[onyx adder]

What u mean

[full fossil]

i mean why would you wanna take more reflected dmg

[short prairie]

If you are reflect immune why do you care

[full fossil]

touche

[onyx adder]

How does that follow from ur screenshot, its a negative reflected mod

[opaque sphinx]

u dont? its a mist that lost

[onyx adder]

Ppl dont want negative attributes either lmao

[short prairie]

Super me osten tation

Wait can you go neg attribute

With SO

[spice pecan]

pog

[eternal hill]

Negative attribute omni

[short prairie]

Neg omni

[onyx adder]

P sure limit is zero

[eternal hill]

And use the keystone for attri not mattering

[short prairie]

I see

[short prairie]

Ye SO

[white garden]

Hey I have a premium tab setup as a shop with prices in all items, but I suspect no one is able to buy stuff from me directly. Before I start sending emails to support, is there anyone willing to test it out with me?

[final owl]

can you not just check trade yourself to see if your items are appearing

[white garden]

they are appearing and ppl send me whispers, I just don't think they can open the shop window alone

[final owl]

you don't get whispers for stuff listed on async..

[white garden]

and buy without me doing direct trade

[final owl]

oh wait

you're just using old trade

which you can still obviously do. but you are not going to get sales that way..

[white garden]

YES old trade. last time I was around was harvets league lol

so how is the NEW trade? xd

[final owl]

you need to convert a premium tab to merchant tab

and put your stuff on faustus

[ashen urchin]

how

[final owl]

idk. it may not be possible anymore

[white garden]

I see, another microtx to convert tabs?

[opaque sphinx]

damn bruh first time i actually dropped one lul

[final owl]

buuut.. you need a merchant tab to use the new async trade.

[final owl]

old trade is basically for scammers and time wasters now.

you will not see items fly off the shelves there.

personally I choose to search async only when i'm searching trade because i cbf dealing with old trade shenanigans

[opaque sphinx]

still great early league

aint nobody got gold

[final owl]

true. I guess old trade lives on in some niches regardless

[white garden]

I'm buying stuff a lot cheaper from other people directly in party

[white garden]

Yes I see this, but there is no option to upgrade a premium tab. was this a thing once?

[final owl]

it was a thing. maybe it is no longer a thing

[grim pivot]

You could still upgrade but its still old trade system

Stillon site

[rancid sluice]

they are talking about upgrading a premium to merchant

[white garden]

I was in SSF until recently and wasted so much gold rerolling Kirac. Now I moved to trade league and I never have enough gold to buy the stuff I need, I always have to go back and do maps or delve and buy or recombine things in small increments

[hard cliff]

You got this

LOCK IN

[white garden]

and in Kingsmarch with the vegetables...

[rancid sluice]

theres gold rotas, wishes with volatiles that drop more, etc. i dunno i never use mine im swimming in it

[white garden]

I'm considering using an allflame

[ruby geyser]

Sitting on 9 mill golf currently

Gold

[final owl]

"Eligible Tabs: Only standard Premium Stash Tabs purchased before August 29, 2025, are eligible for a free conversion."

[ruby geyser]

Got dang

[hollow loom]

Helloooo

[tawdry olive]

when i get to 20m i spend a bit of time flipping on the exchange to use up like 15m of it

breach strats drop a lot of gold

[rancid sluice]

and i have gold completely hidden in my filter heh no gold runs or anything

[final owl]

yeah i'm too lazy to use gold late league

just end up with a dragon hoard to sit on

[rancid sluice]

i think i threw like 10m at kingsmarch to give it a try but meh just not my bag

[final owl]

i did mappers for a while. not enough value per unit of faff.

[white garden]

that's me! mine were bought in 2020

[final owl]

nice, well, account settings on the website is where you can convert apparently

[grim pivot]

https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/merchants-tabs

[white garden]

btw I found thse boots with 'your travel skills critically strike every 3 uses' but I don't see any price estimates for this affix

[tawdry olive]

sounds like an infamous mod

probably dropped from exiles in mirage, im not aware of any build that uses it

[torn timber]

NO NEW CLASS BOYS LETS GO SAME BUILDS AS LAST LEAGUEWOOO WOOOO

[tawdry olive]

sir you may be in the wrong channel

[torn timber]

I AM wowo

[white garden]

upgrade done! tyvm

[final owl]

yeah idk. if you're using travel skills as your primary damage you're probably already capping crit

and if you're not you probably don't particularly care about critting with your travel skill 1/3 uses

[tawdry olive]

yea that 1 in 3 sounds good but it just means your crit chance is maxed at 33% and you dont want to invest further because it doesn't work well with the mod

[opaque sphinx]

yoink

[final owl]

stack size 4/20. nice.

[full kraken]

holy shit what the fuck lol, when you have like 12 incubators pop all at the same time, your character explodes like they just got hit by a tactical nuke

flashbang

[rancid sluice]

new supporter packs are pretty weak ngl

[hard cliff]

[charred condor]

Toucan

[blissful rover]

How does the dash roll MTX work in POE 1? Is it just on all the time?

[rancid sluice]

it turns into a quicksilver flask mtx doesnt it

[charred condor]

Guys I have 10 challenges this league

Last league I had 8

Progress

[blissful rover]

Not great with the shrine belts being so popular. I’ve really been trying to justify getting one of these.

[tawdry olive]

i just went with the ol mageblood anyway

didnt play a build with those belts

[rancid sluice]

if youve got an mb on w/ quicksilver pretty sure its on all the time

[blissful rover]

I never thought id be more than a casual player and I got 40 challenges. Killed all the ubers and everything

[tawdry olive]

i bought 2 magebloods just for convenience so i didnt have to swap

that was probably not a good use of divs lmao

[blissful rover]

…why would you need two?

[tawdry olive]

if you play 2 characters you have to remember to put it in the stash from 1 and take it out for the other

.... first world problem i know

[blissful rover]

This league is great for progression kf ballista

[rancid sluice]

theyre only like 80d anyway

[blissful rover]

No like 60 now.

Like three hours of harvest

Everyone is all in on shrine belts apparently and demand is down. The Accel belt is insane.

[rancid sluice]

id rather have flasks personally. i gave it a shot on my mapper, wasnt that impressed. too much utility lost

[rocky glade]

So ig we gonna get ingame price checker next League

[final owl]

kinda feels like it's only 2 shrine belts that are genuinely good endgame

[rocky glade]

I'd say Diamond Shrine is good enough to forefeit flasks entirely

[rancid sluice]

youve already got in game market or you mean like awakened

[rocky glade]

Awakened

[rancid sluice]

gotcha

[final owl]

diamond is fine for early endgame, but it is restrictive, particularly for movespeed

[rocky glade]

PoE 2 is getting an Awakened price checker built in for their next League

[blissful rover]

Ive never been able to have awakened work. It just doesn’t do it.

[final owl]

use the portable version

the main installer version never seems to work for me.

[blissful rover]

Portable version? I 100% cant use the installed version.

[rancid sluice]

like it doesnt even start or whats the issue

[final owl]

it does not start

presumably missing some dependancy or permission

i've never bothered to investigate

[rancid sluice]

weird

[blissful rover]

Mine is installed and runs just fine. I can access the overlay. It will. Not. Pricecheck. It doesn’t do the only thing I installed it for.

[rancid sluice]

is it updated and set to the current league?

[final owl]

probs not set to the right league would be my guess

if the overlay works

[blissful rover]

I installed it four times, from what I remember set to mirage league.

It’ll try again in case this is a “no its not plugged in” situation.

[final owl]

i would just try the portable version

[blissful rover]

Yeah

[final owl]

it just works for me, which is why i havent bothered to try and figure out why the installer version doesn't

[hard cliff]

happy for you

[spice pecan]

man this asshole, im just tryna see if i can kill i83 lycia

it's lowkey hilarious when it happens lmao

[onyx adder]

gotta not fail first

[spice pecan]

no divines on floor 4 anyway so meh

and damage was sus on boss 3 so maybe we go back to 75s or some shit

[onyx adder]

that blade dancer guy is like the best example of poe of why the best way to not take damage is to abuse shitty mob turn rates

[spice pecan]

i think if I get like.. 10k phys max I always live a crit?

[onyx adder]

if u move towards him he cant ever hit u because his turn rate is so bad and he blinks next to u first

[spice pecan]

need to remember the rooms he spawns in and where, first tbh

had a good run of like 9 tomes not failed tho

[short prairie]

you can resurrect?

I thought resolves gone sanctum gone

[spice pecan]

resolve gone OR you die, sanctum gone

i actually only lost like 20 resolve from getting hit, but

i have uh, 370 life and 2.3k es

so i straight died lmoa

[short prairie]

It says resurrect at checkpoint

[spice pecan]

yeah but you don't actually resurrect in your run

checkpoint is sanctum lobby, town is town

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

i think you still get the resurrect options if you run out of resolve, idk

[short prairie]

Ggg needs to change the wording

There’s literally no checkpoint in sanctum

[short prairie]

Wrong, download Linux instead

[spice pecan]

or: ggg should guarantee crystal chalice on floor 1 every run so that losing is impossible

[short prairie]

What’s that

I never run sanctum so

[spice pecan]

crystal chalice is the major boon that says "you cannot get minor afflictions"

[short prairie]

Idk anything in sanctum

[spice pecan]

so you can pick every upside/room that gives a minor affliction with no drawback at all

it is VERY poggers

[short prairie]

But then you take major afflictions

And you die

[spice pecan]

no you don't

[cosmic eagle]

delete current sanctum and add poo2 sanctum

[spice pecan]

majors are ironically, kind of like a non issue

they're really rare and they don't rly do much

mobs have more life/take less damage, ,player deals less damage, mobs get 30% action speed and can't be slowed, all the info obscuring stuff, that's all minor afflictions

even something like this is just minor xd

[short prairie]

When you afflicted by a minor

[spice pecan]

you regularly get like 5-10+ minor afflictions per run

sometimes more

whereas I get a major affliction like, once every.. 5 ish runs?

[short prairie]

I bet dads get afflicted by their minors often

Like esm

[spice pecan]

is esm even real

[short prairie]

Esm is real and he’s a Dadge now

[spice pecan]

RF gamer

[short prairie]

Real father gamer

[cosmic eagle]

let's see if i can finally get my grey wind after 200 tries

[full kraken]

sorry why is... arrogance.. a valid support gem for this? it doesnt have a reservation...

seems bugged, arrogance should not be considered a valid support for it

[hard cliff]

that's messed up

actually brick

[spice pecan]

doesnt arrogance just... do nothing?

[gritty garnet]

at least it doesn't brick the gem

[hard cliff]

it's Brick for anything good instead

maybe their is better word to use

[final owl]

bad imbues is just cheap gems for the chronically poor. it's charity

[tawdry olive]

Damn the GOAT drops in outta nowhere https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1t6tp81/i_interviewed_jonathan/

Hasn’t made a post on the sub in years

[short prairie]

F

[spice pecan]

man if armor stacker played like tri ele or something that would be kinda sick

[short prairie]

very sick, i need a doctor rn

[livid quarry]

no life no chaos resis ring

eww

[spice pecan]

HOLY

[cosmic eagle]

how deep you are in sanctum? are fracture somewhat common in there?

[spice pecan]

i'm in an i75 tome, this is floor 4

[cosmic eagle]

1st run?

[spice pecan]

oh no not the first at all

this is probably ~20th i75 run

[cosmic eagle]

why i75?

how rare are fracture?

[spice pecan]

need more damage, waiting for pc ralakesh to come up on private league market

uh, first time ive seen fracs as an option

so decently rare i'd say

[cosmic eagle]

wtf

[spice pecan]

i've seen divs 4 times now

[cosmic eagle]

oh yeah probably coz it's i75, they might be common in higher tiers hopefully

[spice pecan]

yeah not sure, the two i83s i tried that got to floor 4 didn't have anything decent

and one of them had all-seeing eye too so i knew what every room had

[cosmic eagle]

coz without mirage i dont think fracture farming is fun at all next league

[spice pecan]

not bad

[gritty garnet]

receive a full inventory of legion uniques to vendor on completing the sanctum

[full kraken]

whats a good lv 1 skill to use to get to lv 12 with dual wield swords

[spice pecan]

splitting steel maybe

[gritty garnet]

brost flades

[full kraken]

people always recommend frost blades, I always find its really mid @_@;

[gritty garnet]

it's mostly because I don't like aiming and the base proj speed is high enough to clear around corners

also no weapon restrictions so no need to switch sockets around

[elfin shale]

not many options lol

Smite is my goat personally

[spice pecan]

i have a perfect spectre and a normal spectre that I want to upgrade to perfect, what's the way to do this again?

do I unequip raise spectre in hideout, resurrect the perfect one I want, and then go to a new zone and resurrect the new perfect one?

[cosmic eagle]

yeah just remove the gem

right click on the perf spec item inside ho and summon

[spice pecan]

yeah just like move away from the normal corpse that i no longer want right

[cosmic eagle]

corpse target your current perf after you remove the gem so you can summon the perf

just leave the non perf that you want to upgrade

[spice pecan]

word

boom, thanks, spectre stuff always makes me nervous xd

[cosmic eagle]

specially if you mess up the tiger

and auto consume it

[final owl]

it would be so easy for them to make specters less bad like that.

[cosmic eagle]

idk maybe just like AG

[split maple]

spectral throw

[cosmic eagle]

it's yours forever

[cosmic eagle]

after 171 runs i finally have it sweet

[final owl]

171. damn. what is the drop rate?

[dense rock]

50% 😄

[final owl]

that would be an oof. you'd have to have personally pissed off rngesus

[dense rock]

just like me with farming belts 😄

[cosmic eagle]

5% i dropped the 1% drop rate amulet and 2 sundered will which are apparently 3% drop rate

[gritty garnet]

now volatile vaal it

[dense rock]

currently at 14 staffs / 1 belt

aint the BELT SUPPOSED TO HAVE HIGHER DROP CHANCE?!?!?!

[final owl]

yeah thats a pretty bad run

[dense rock]

i know i mostly play minion builds but fuck that stupid stick

[cosmic eagle]

getting the amulet first before the axe made me cringe

1% drop

[final owl]

probability gives no fucks about what you expect

apparently monkey brain finds this very appealing.

[cosmic eagle]

i can finally try to play a build that uses it and slap it on AGoS later

[cosmic eagle]

i think the 1 hander is rarer than the belt and the staff is almost on par with the belt

[dense rock]

I keep going there thinking "this time will be different for sure"

and its the stupid fucking stick once again 😄

[full kraken]

okay so initial thoughts on spectral helix of trath: its really funky to play with, kinda awkward, but its dps does slap

though it has a very low base trap limit

[rancid sluice]

ive had abysmal luck with belts too. and even when they drop its been bad ones aside from a single accel a couple days ago

[final owl]

i had pretty good luck with belt drops

but all the ones i ID'd were dogshit unsurprisingly

[dense rock]

my only belt was greater skelly :D:D:

[rancid sluice]

sounds about right

[dense rock]

basically gambled 1div and got 10c in return

[final owl]

i don't think I ID'd a belt worth over a handful of chaos

[dense rock]

#winning

[final owl]

and thatt was when unid was selling for like 7d

[dense rock]

😄

[rancid sluice]

i thought about selling the accel but meh i dont really have anything to buy at this point

[final owl]

it do be like that

[cosmic eagle]

at least you got 1 accel, i think i farmed 50 belts in ssf and the best 1 yet is this 1

i dont even know if this is usable

or how to use it

[final owl]

i think i got one or two total garbage 2 shrine belts

they're novel until you're done reading the text of the second shrine 😛

[split maple]

i kinda like massives with effect just as generic %life slot

like i wouldnt lose flasks for it

but if you using 3 ring ascend anyways

and cannot use hh or smh

[rancid sluice]

massive scales aoe too doesnt it freezing does ice nova maybe theres something there heh dunno

[split maple]

hm 30% phys as cold + free 10% chill

it is something

still not worth lossing flasks for just that, but if you lossing them anyways

[short prairie]

fashion

[final owl]

if it was added and not just convert it would be nice i guess

look out met gala?

[split palm]

5% supposedly

[final owl]

I aint no statistician but 171 attempts at a 5% drop looks like pretty bad luck.

[cosmic eagle]

ive seen 2 i farmed 100 hivebrain and both of em got 0 grey wind, i was getting crazy i logged in on sc mirage and bought unid grey wind and tried to dropped it thinking my filter was broken

[split palm]

would you like 600 attemptsd for 3% and still counting

[final owl]

At some point well before 600 I tend to just decide that rngesus has plans for me that don't involve using that item.

[cosmic eagle]

true

farm charlattan instead

[ebon hatch]

poe1 breach into poe2 ???
is it not laziness

LMAO

[final owl]

they are games based on the same engine

[split palm]

uhhhh

they literally did that before

[final owl]

if you imagined they would not re-use what they can between the games..

[split palm]

both ways

poo2 is a test server for poe
poe is a test server for poo2

[ebon hatch]

im not judging, but i had a good laugh can’t lie

[split palm]

maybe poo2 will have the right to be called poe2 with this update

[final owl]

i think they are still trying to allow 1 & 2 to have their own identity. but like. We weren't expecting them to come up with completely new mechanics for 2 were we? they were always going to at least be similar with whatever tweaks they thought suited

[ebon hatch]

so far poe2 significantly lacks speed for breach from poe1

[split palm]

eh

[final owl]

it is shorter to list the things 2 isn't lacking tbh

[split palm]

spark clears 2-3 screens away

the new "delve-expedition" sounds very good tbh

[final owl]

i will try 0.5. but may end up playing it as much as i did 0.4. we will see. I am always curious enough to have a look at least

[rancid sluice]

ive been through the campaign and a handful of maps twice and thats about it. just hasnt grabbed me yet

[ebon hatch]

is the campaign those promised 70-80h ?

[full kraken]

okay so, vaal smite really just seems to hold strongest as a sword build imo on twink acts

[final owl]

i tend to just get far enough in to complete campaign and have a bit of a look at endgame. I havent played a significant amount of 2 since 0.1 really

[full kraken]

foulborn ghostwrithe + energy blade not only is just insane damage, but also a super tanky twink build

[split palm]

now you have to play 0.5, since there is FOMO for mtx

[full kraken]

I mentioned this in the poe2 chat but until GGG adds a trypophobia mode I honestly just dunno if Ill ever pick up poe2 again

[final owl]

i played enough of 0.4 to start building temple and thought "meh". i don't need to play a 2 league with fundamentally broken new mechanic.

[full kraken]

they kinda just really went overboard and it truly just... ruined the game for me

theres a few small things in poe1 but theyre all so small youd only notice them if you super zoom in

[final owl]

thats fair. sometimes games like that these days get various phobia friendly modes. like nixing spiders. has ggg ever done anything like that. not to my knowledge

[full kraken]

they made sockets have colorblind friendly mode 🤔

[surreal mulch]

does that mean you don't do delve

[full kraken]

and option to disable the zoom out thing for the one fight for motion sickness

[full kraken]

?

[final owl]

i feel like phobia-friendly modes are a level above "basic accessibility features for common conditions" for whatever reason

[surreal mulch]

a bunch of delve themed mobs have holes

[full kraken]

ah yeah thats what I meant above, the stuff in poe1 is so zoomed out you have to purposefuly really zoom in to even see anything

[cosmic eagle]

im not surprised they added the same format/concept of the content from poe1 to poo2 since poe1 these days is just a test realm for poo2, seeing how huge genesis tree is in poo2 is so funny tho ngl

[full kraken]

also lets be real shits such a clusterfuck in poe1 you cant even see anything by that point

but issue is a couple stuff in poe2 acts is... really bad, its not monsters its the whole zone, and a zone you are forced to go through to complete the act

[blazing nymph]

Genesis sequoia

[full kraken]

and as a result, I literally just... I can /do/ that zone and push through it, but it so actively ruins my entire day it sorta defeats the point of playing a video game

[ebon hatch]

don’t forget every mob has its own blood type and skin material, but uhh it doesn’t matter when you kill 100000 monsters in 1 nanoseconds

[cosmic eagle]

i do however love the take on ritual specially the pinnacle boss tho and the deli

i wish it comes to poo1

KoTM can fuck off along with its dogshit phasing where you find his portal , i love that big head inside my invitations

[full kraken]

honestly ever since the start of the po2'ification of poe1, it feels like the content of poe1 has been enshittified

overall the content of poe1 feels like its in one of the worst states its been in, in awhile

[ebon hatch]

how exactly did poe2 affected poe1 ?

[final owl]

yeah how so

[full kraken]

🤨

I mean do you want the history lesson or

[final owl]

i didn't hate keepers, i liked mirage. i'll grant you some of the existing mechanics in poe1 are in dire need of a refresh

[ebon hatch]

starting from the settlers delay?

[full kraken]

Id say ruthless was around the starting point, not ruthless itself necessarily but around that point in time

[cosmic eagle]

mercs was great, keeps was nice, mirage is also nice

all in all poe2 has not affected poe1 yet

idk what are you on about

[full kraken]

I was extremely confident that around the time of ruthless, it was actually ggg quietly testing out poe2 concepts in poe1 to playtest them secretly, and I was 1000% correct

[final owl]

i didn't love mercs, but i can accept that i am in the minority there. and it wasn't a bad league. i just didn't love it for reasons.

[cosmic eagle]

it did however affect the pacing of the league launch

but the quality? nah

[full kraken]

🤨

dawg have you taken a step back to look at what mirage league intrinsically is

[ebon hatch]

i didn’t like the idea ggg adding a “pause” option to poe1, thought it ruins the spirit of the game… lord i was wrong, that is a huge qol

[cosmic eagle]

i did and mirage is 1 of the actually unique league they ever made

[full kraken]

....wat

[cosmic eagle]

it actually boost the content you actually want in the first place

[full kraken]

it i literally the least unique league they have ever made

[cosmic eagle]

and that's what mirage accomplished

[full kraken]

mirage literally is just... nothing

[final owl]

a mechanic that boosts existing mechanics is a good idea, conceptually I think. And better than just adding new mechanics for the sake of adding new mechanics

[full kraken]

it, in of itself, barely added anything new

[cosmic eagle]

[final owl]

don't get me wrong. I want new stuff

[cosmic eagle]

it's more unique than adding a CIRCLE ZONE SPAWN IN MOBS AND CLEAR

[final owl]

but poe1 has a lot of mechanics at this point. a lot of stuff. and things.

[full kraken]

dawg just cuz the circle has a weirder shape doesnt make this not a "kill shit in the circle" league

[cosmic eagle]

let me guess you thought the wishes were the true attraction to this league hence you thought this league was mid

[full kraken]

except this time they couldnt even make a new circle, its just the same circles we already have but more of them per map now

[final owl]

like i'm down with them just revamping some of the less relevant / good / popular mechanics and new leagues mostly just involving interesting twists on existing stuff

[cosmic eagle]

true

[full kraken]

uh no I just saw the league for what it was, day 1

"ah fuck we are short on time just re-use a bunch of the shit from prior leagues/content and bring it back, and throw a couple new things in there to make it look like we actually did something"

you realize half the "mirage" stuff we have was already in the game prior, removed, and brought back for mirage right

[cosmic eagle]

mirage accomplished what it actually was intended to do, buffing and putting new takes/flavours/loots on existing content except for master content

[full kraken]

they just re-used old stuff

[full kraken]

not new takes

[cosmic eagle]

that's why it's unique

[ebon hatch]

ggg actively, yet slowly, reworking existing old mechanics… got rid of metamorphosis, reworked breach, now im sure they work on harbinger etc. that’s good

[final owl]

re-using old stuff is a very sane thing to do if you can do it without any real detriment to the game.

[cosmic eagle]

this guy should finance GGG so they can use new stuff/resource into the game

[full kraken]

doesnt change the fact that inherently makes it the least unique league we have had

[final owl]

idk. there is just a level of pragmatism involved in big projects gamers seem to fundamentally object to for some reason.

[full kraken]

you are going way off the rails here now, the original discussion was "is it new/unique"

its not, its objectively a buncha re-used old shit they brought back with a sprinkle of new things

[full kraken]

none of this is what Im objecting too

Im just disagreeing with the statement Dray made that its the most unique league ever, its like... the exact opposite

[final owl]

eh. i mean. necropolis. what did it do that was actually unique other than forcing you to buy multiple quad tabs if you wanted to engage with it properly

[full kraken]

not much either

[ebon hatch]

mirage allows you to play absolutely however you want your maps to be. fully juiced full mirage, alc and go, focus on one mega hard strat and mirage with amplify it x2, or ignore the mirage completely and you still can make currency

mirage is goated

[cosmic eagle]

it is unique you can disagree all you want but this is way more unique takes on league than adding circle zone spawn mobs and clear

[full kraken]

none of this has any bearing on the discussion of how unique it is

[ebon hatch]

it is pretty different than we had before

[cosmic eagle]

wdym no bearing? it's 1 of the reason why mirage is unique

[final owl]

i mean ok, i probably don't agree that mirage is the "most unique league ever" and i think that's too subjective to be worth arguing about really

[full kraken]

its objective fact that the majority of mirage's "content" is re-used old stuff

[final owl]

i care less about unique than i do about it being good and enjoyable to play I guess

[full kraken]

you simply cannot look at that and be like "wow so unique" its literally not we already had this stuff before

[ebon hatch]

prior to mirage, chances are if you ignore league mechanics you don’t make currency

[full kraken]

this continues to be the case

oh wait other way around

[ebon hatch]

nah

[full kraken]

wat

sorry are you saying you /had/ to play the mechanic to make currency in prior leagues

[ebon hatch]

cuz there was all the juice yes

[full kraken]

hah

mate that has... never been the case

for a very very very very long time

[ebon hatch]

settlers, crucible, merc, idk, that’s just very few examples

[full kraken]

there have always been plenty of ways to make huge bank while utterly ignoring the entire league mechanic

[frigid wedge]

what we arguing about

[full kraken]

apparantly me thinking mirage is not a "unique" league (becaue like 80%+ of its "content" is just re-used old stuff GGG brought back from past leagues) is a hot take

[cosmic eagle]

nobody said it's a hot take, you are the only 1 disagreeing here

lmfao

delusional

[final owl]

idk that it's a hot take. it's a warm take? it came out of the dryer recently.

[full kraken]

what exactly do you think a hot take is

[ebon hatch]

cuz it seems you want to say mirage is bad, while it’s not

[full kraken]

mate unique != good

I said it wasnt unique

[tall pine]

it is

its 2 breach league in a row

[final owl]

as the only true source of objective truth, unfortunately I have to disagree.

[cosmic eagle]

?

guy has a fomo about breach

[full kraken]

its aways been breach league for people who wanna kill shit in circles as their farming strat

[tall pine]

u will have a lot of fun if u didnt play breach league i agree

[final owl]

i played both. i liked mirage a lot more than keepers

[full kraken]

the only time breach wasnt the "kill shit with a HH" farming strat... was before breach was introduced

[final owl]

because we got to de-wall our maps if nothing else

[tall pine]

tell me other startgies than strongbox and breach was reapeting for 2 leagues and good div making

[ebon hatch]

idk, i loved old breach stones, wish they were added back but 10 times harder

[frigid wedge]

mirage is an an augmentation based league and i think its excellent from an interactive standpoint but kinda shit from a balancing the game standpoint, i like the whole gimmick of: yes you get stuff for running this content, but you get extra other stuff if you interact it with this other thing

[full kraken]

did you misread my... statement?

[cosmic eagle]

this guy got the SC brain all over this chat, DIV/HR

[full kraken]

its not unique content though, theres only a couple of unique bits and bobs to it, but as a whole most of its stuff is just "hey remember that thing we deleted x leagues ago? we brought it back!"

[frigid wedge]

u can run gg without being a zhp squishy build, its still strong on other stuff

[frigid wedge]

its the same amount of new content as necropolis, presented differently but better to interact with

[full kraken]

whether its good or not is an entirely different discussion

[ebon hatch]

when new ascendency were added? last league?

[frigid wedge]

the reliq was this league

[full kraken]

bloodlines were last league

[ebon hatch]

ok

[silent leaf]

ew tradies

[tall pine]

i hope they bring something like merc or settler league i had fun there

[cosmic eagle]

that is why imo this league is a new take/unique take on a league instead of adding circle zone and clear and get your reward bs, i like this fresh take on league

[cosmic eagle]

settlers is still here? do your shipping then

[frigid wedge]

i like mirage but im 99% sure if it went core they would make it as insignificant as vaal side areas with more chase drops

[tall pine]

i meant same league hype

[cosmic eagle]

???

[frigid wedge]

bc as great as it is unless ur running masters its more value per map than any other mechanic in the game

[tall pine]

if it goes core thats crazy

[ebon hatch]

wait, vaal side more value you mean?

[cosmic eagle]

it should go core it's more fun and engaging than sentinel/wildwood currently

[full kraken]

*sometimes

[split palm]

Hi sans

[full kraken]

sentinel seriously needs to replace ghosts

[modest sparrow]

I feel like the only way it'd go core is if its implemented like wildwood/mist/sentinel

You find it SOMETIMES in t16+ maps

[full kraken]

just delete ghosts and make sentinels actually be on the tree

[ebon hatch]

im pretty sure that’s how it will act, like a random pop up once in a while

[modest sparrow]

Spitting

[frigid wedge]

as in, i think mirage will get like 1 wheel on atlas at nost and it will never be massive worth to click unless it's primary thing they go for in the strat

unfortunately

[cosmic eagle]

nah fuck that, mirage becoming wildwood is the most stupid shit this game has, i hate how rare they are and i also hate how useless they are on mapping

[frigid wedge]

i want an alternative to deli orbs that forces these mechanics in with less effect

[cosmic eagle]

^

cord belt is too good

[full kraken]

theyll prolly just make the mirage'd maps be what goes core

[cosmic eagle]

i want that belt rather than fishing for mirage in t16 like wildwood and farm blight lmfao

[full kraken]

dunno what they'll make them drop from

[frigid wedge]

mirage added too much actual item content to completely remove it

[split palm]

.<

[full kraken]

but itll prolly just be "you can sometimes get T16 mirage'd maps from <thing>"

[full kraken]

basically all of it was stuff they already deleted though

[frigid wedge]

they just do the same shit as originator maps

[split palm]

probably gonna move it to places, like vvaal to alva, fogs to simul, or something like that, IF they don't keep mirages

[full kraken]

yeah just maybe add passives to the tree that give a small % chance for maps to drop mirage'd

[frigid wedge]

yeah but I'm chill with that, its a good way to gate certain things they werent sure how to implement

[full kraken]

full wheel is like 8% chance or something

[cosmic eagle]

yeah the ele damage change on harv bench, the minion craft is just way too useful for mirage not to go core and be more useful than wildwood

[frigid wedge]

alternatively, staying on vaal side area theme, maybe u make them spawn in a way that lets u roll them for a mechanic and they arent impacted by the actual map

[full kraken]

if mirage gets put meaningfully on the tree, then all mirage'able content becomes ruined

only way to make it work is keep mirage totally random bonus you sometimes get like wildwood

it shows up and you are like "fuck ya big boost"

but if they put it on the tree it becomes an automatic mandatory take for most strats

[ebon hatch]

all these types of random mechanics that don’t get their passive on atlas, wildwood and sentient, every time they appear on maps they bring 0 value, like the best stuff that dropped is 2 stacked decks from sentient

[full kraken]

which is dumb, itd be unhealthy to just put some wheels on the tree that many strats are forced to take

[frigid wedge]

i feel like making them ignore ur map mods but not ur atlas could work

[ebon hatch]

we need a way to focus on those specifically

[frigid wedge]

bc it is a separate zone

[split maple]

wildwood has hella value

like sentinel is useless fair

[cosmic eagle]

the sentinel 1 oof, 0 value and sometimes you forget it's there it's so trash

[split maple]

but wildwood is good enough we had strats where folks abandoned map if it didnt proc

[full kraken]

well Im in favor of deleting ghosts entirely and replace them with sentinels on the tree

sentinels are just like the strictly better designed version of ghosts

[frigid wedge]

i think making ppl choose between mirage, deli orb and wildwood via a map augment would be good, finally shift meta away from always deli orbing

but all 3 individuallybeing forced by said thing

[cosmic eagle]

dont worry guys, poo2/jonathan is actually testing out the new and improve atlas tree on poo2

and yall know what it is, you can pick all nodes in atlas tree

[ebon hatch]

i want it to be good but 2000 blue juice or what was that, yellow i don’t recall and no drops, i didn’t notice any boost in ground loot sadly

[full kraken]

the poe2 atlas is starting to look neat but I still despise how much extra friction it involves just to open a damn map

[split palm]

poo2 may have the right to be called poe2 now tbh

I also really should not even look at the aspirin package

[full kraken]

they added some of that friction to poe1 now too, I hate that

[frigid wedge]

blue converts shit to currency tho, its not actually quant

[cosmic eagle]

hi im mark game director of poe - in 3.29 all atlas tree nodes can now be allocated

cinema

[split maple]

wildwood proc is basically wisp scarb on steroids and raw currency strats like breach are hella happy to use 1-2 wisps

[full kraken]

Id like to see maps go higher than T16 tbh

[split palm]

funnily enough, even the mechanic specific ones can be fully allocated

[full kraken]

like way higher

[split maple]

or remember evo alvas from merc where some folks bailed map if wildwood + beidat didnt proc

or rogue exiles in settlers

[full kraken]

or like, Id like to see GGG ramp up the scaling to T16

[ebon hatch]

i missed the wildwood league but i want to experience it in full power, please give me atlas notes

[mental nymph]

So nightmare maps

[split maple]

like for raw currency drop based strats wildwood is gg

[full kraken]

no those are still T16

[mental nymph]

And originator maps being 16.5

[full kraken]

those are... still T16 enemies

[frigid wedge]

nah those become mandatory nodes

[split maple]

loss of area level 84 is so fucking painful for cluster jewels

[mental nymph]

Might as well not count them as t16 since they have Uber bosses

[full kraken]

putting drowning orbs in the maps doesnt make the enemies stop getting one tapped from 2 screens away