1┃general

[opal ingot]

gz

is for me?

[tranquil umbra]

is for me

[sleek barn]

is for me

[bold kelp]

speaking of boxes, they should delete caster mastery. It is stupid to be shoehorned into 1 archetype to reduce tedium/RSI

Or just expand the options to open containers automatically

[full kraken]

is this an honest price or is this unreliable in terms of supply/demand?

Im deciding what map I wanna try scrying onto strand, this seems by far best value but Im worried its just a case of super low supply and demand making the price be wonky

[tranquil sedge]

no available competing trades is funny lol

[opal ingot]

lol

[bold kelp]

986 weight for like 2d?

Is that good? That doesnt sound that good

[tranquil sedge]

damnation 4fun or some divine orb card methinks

or mageblood card

[tranquil umbra]

just do defiled cathedral like the old days

[rancid sluice]

i always grab fortunates, yeah its 12 per but they print

[sleek barn]

im still clicking all of em manually :(

[tranquil umbra]

where do you get fortunates again

strand?

[opal ingot]

its so wild to me how good double shrine belts can go for mirrors and mirrors

[rancid sluice]

beach

[tranquil umbra]

oh right

[bold kelp]

Hmm, so in 2 breach astrolabes. I've gotten....... 4 instilling orbs?

[tranquil umbra]

beach is honestly a good layout to run anyway

[bold kelp]

Is there some mechanic that actually drops more instilling orbs

[tranquil umbra]

no

[sleek barn]

oh i thought it was just 1d

WWW

[tranquil umbra]

ez

[rancid sluice]

yeah beach is always my go to starter before i move into something more specific

[tranquil umbra]

I would try beach for deli beyond but it's not linear enough

[clear bough]

Why isn't anyone talking about the delve resonator in the logo? Also the Acoustic Resonator fork? And delve has giant blue glowing spiders???

[tranquil umbra]

also I haven't gotten a singular good thing from the fucking vault in that quadrant

[bold kelp]

Delve already has blue glowing spiders

[clear bough]

Yep that's my point

[full kraken]

the ancients are the things we encounter in delve arent they?

IE Aul and etc, arent those "the ancients"?

[tranquil umbra]

if it is delve league and not tota

billions will riot

[clear bough]

They do refer to them as the ancient civilisation.

GGG will add TOTA soon....

BUT LATER NEVER CAME

[opal ingot]

nice

what the hell is that

[stuck phoenix]

mm, slapped a shaper ex on the stranded base I hit with 1 essence earlier

seems quite d ecent

do I even have the best flat lightning

[onyx adder]

Man knows what rewards he wants

Dont kink shame

[opal ingot]

is he not

tempted to remove all quests on the right side

[rancid sluice]

i always hide them after the important stuff is done otherwise its usually 12 for kingsmarch

[opaque sphinx]

u think dropping a med cluster would be worth ghost reaver?

[opal ingot]

ehhh

[opaque sphinx]

i lose 6.6% dps and 25% aoe to go from 700-1400 leech

[onyx adder]

Im a big not-dying enjoyer

Why dont u try it with ur current setup

And then if u have to walk of shame too much switch to ghost reaver

[opaque sphinx]

valid ur right its not even made yet

should try it first

i still need like 40d to finish it so prob a tmrw thing

and still need to level a witch

[pulsar ice]

gamba of "I don't know what I'm going to even look for"

[opal ingot]

why

do a gamble you know what to look for

[rancid sluice]

bond in the right place is about the only thing

[opaque sphinx]

some can be cool af

[pulsar ice]

idk those dropped in price like crazy, used to be like 120c and now 30

and I had a bunch of them unsold

[short prairie]

feed the fury

[rancid sluice]

theres like no money in simu right now unless youve got some secret tech to drop more voices. just ran it for a couple hours and got one lol. and at 10d unid not worth

[short prairie]

devaastator

unspeakable gift

[pulsar ice]

I was running simu earlier into the league just as a braindead break between maps

[rancid sluice]

i actually really enjoy it but its rough to try and make something off it rn

[pulsar ice]

it was cool hitting random 35% effect fractures, had a stockpile of orbs from shipments

[rancid sluice]

ive not gotten lucky on any clusters off it

[opal ingot]

tiny sample size but wtf is this

feels like normal doesn't have atlas nodes into reducing plot colors lol

[clear bough]

ggg: we'll fix it later.

[bold kelp]

wtf, i didnt even know it was possible to get 1 uber frag at 300 quant

[opal ingot]

uh

how do we report this

ping moderators

or modmail

[onyx adder]

<@&174997701513969665>

We've seen a few of these with the same wording

Might be worth automodding it

[opal ingot]

@sage falcon do we modmail or just ping chat mods

[sage falcon]

the latter

[opal ingot]

ok ty

!giverep blooon

[viscid ruin]

why is there ai slop in my gambling addiction server?

[clear bough]

lol facts

[sage falcon]

using the power of billions of dollars of research and investment to imagine what it would look like if a guy was pointing at someone

[clear bough]

the answer: about as cursed as you can imagine

[finite quail]

ew ai slop

[clear bough]

it's so bad haha

[finite quail]

yes

unironically

[clear bough]

like impressively bad

[viscid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bugcat-capoo-cat-love-murder-gif-26312926

[finite quail]

OWOWOWOWOW

[viscid ruin]

in awakener voice
I WANT IT DELETED

[finite quail]

Hello Tomkas

[viscid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-russian-pootis-pootisengage-gif-17430168

Òó 🔪

[viscid ruin]

🗡️ òÓ

[finite quail]

[viscid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/lyca-colt-tokyo-debunkers-obscuary-gif-3889566782019470387

[clear bough]

Why do you insist on continuing to exist?
WIPE CLEAN THE SLATE
Embrace Nothingless.
FEEEEL THE THRILL.... OF THE VOID

[viscid ruin]

operator did you hear that?

KLRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[clear bough]

omg suit dressed wolf bois getting nekkid yikes man lol

[viscid ruin]

cosmic background radiation is a riot!!!

[dense rock]

https://giphy.com/gifs/what-the-fuck-wtf-ukGm72ZLZvYfS

[clear bough]

back to theorising about poe 2 teaser trailers depicting the ancient delve cities rising to the surface :333

[dense rock]

this is poo1 channel

[clear bough]

right but it's pertinent to poe 1 leagues, so i have to care

[viscid ruin]

i dont want poo2 here >:(

[viscid ruin]

not really though...

[cosmic eagle]

nobody cares about mechanical arakali teaser bullshit

[dense rock]

poo2 is irrelevant until they rework flicker strike

[clear bough]

would you rather hear me theorise about the maven being maeve from westworld, the emergent ai, enlisting the use of the protagonist action hero to rise up and topple the monolithic superpowers of society and ethos to become the new overlord?

[viscid ruin]

whay?

rework flicker?

[rancid sluice]

neither

[finite quail]

i would rather you not talk

[clear bough]

or my theories about how shaper, sirus and aegon are all one of the same, and hence aegon is zana's brother, father, lover, and son all at once?

[tranquil sedge]

is this a greek setting

[split maple]

[finite quail]

flicker in poo2 is vaal flicker from poo1

[cosmic eagle]

i heard they will add RF in poo2, but to maintain the fire you need to spend power charge, frenzy charge and hold parry

[dense rock]

makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

it'll also only deal 50% damage except for 5 seconds after you kill an enemy

[viscid ruin]

ah yes

[dense rock]

poo2 seems to love gameplay that involves making sommersaults thru hoops to get a chance to do dmg

[tranquil sedge]

and if its not wednesday then you have to reactivate it every 10 seconds

[viscid ruin]

take something good

vomit on it

and then neuterize it

and call it a poo2 skill gem

[cosmic eagle]

rf wont deal ignite if you dont roll too while running

[stuck phoenix]

🤨

[dense rock]

RF only does its damage when you are between 44 and 45% max hp and 94 to 95% max mana

otherwise it turns off

[clear bough]

Eagon is his own grandpa, incidentally, and he is technically not wrong when he thinks zana is his long lost sister, since they both share valdo (sirus) as a father, and she is not wrong when she says he means far more to her than he can imagine, and if he learns the truth it will destroy him (and oriath - thanks sirus).

[viscid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/sussy-face-emoji-dyos-emoji-gif-5876417098591922351

[cosmic eagle]

valdo is the true zana

[viscid ruin]

i think you're trying to find the 5th leg of the cat with something that not even ggg is bothering to give more or add more to

[clear bough]

Nah they hint at it

[viscid ruin]

eagon and zana's story is peak, but its all that we were given

isn't valdo the old dude with the weird blue robot enemies in the weird blue map at the right upper corner?

[cosmic eagle]

kitten cat noodle will release the zana files soon

[clear bough]

This is why zana is fiercely trying to lock eagon out of the atlas, and burn it all down, to finally end their cursed - impossible ontological paradox existence.

[split maple]

Is there some weird joke I am missing there

[viscid ruin]

i mean, canonically each season is a reset and redo of the timeline

[split maple]

Coz this all sounds more concerning than funny

[viscid ruin]

he's trying to bring poo2 talk to poo1 server >:/

[clear bough]

valdo is the shaper, and his mind is consumed by the elder in the atlas (he seeks him out to erase his cursed nilisitic unending agony)

[dense rock]

All this to not even reach 10% the epicness of uber hillocks lore

[clear bough]

zana enters the atlas to find out what happened to her father, and finds instead sirus wandering the atlas with his mind in tatters (a younger version of her father sirus, his mind consumed by the elder) they wander the atlas together and become close and conceive child

[tranquil sedge]

unga bunga -> UNGA BUNGA

[cosmic eagle]

imagine fighting incarnation of dread and you still doesnt know who was valdo

[viscid ruin]

i dont know man

[tranquil sedge]

what in the fanfic

[viscid ruin]

i'm just making currency

dont have the brain to think

[clear bough]

eventually they come upon her father as an old man, his midn being consumed by the elder.. they realise the truth of their cursed recursive nature and she flees the atlas leaving him trapped in there, and goes off to see about raising eagon safely at a distance from the atlas that would consume him

[viscid ruin]

:B

[tranquil sedge]

kittencat got hired by ggg for lore
maybe you become their first fanfic writer hire

[split maple]

I just know valdo is somehow related to boxes

[clear bough]

sirus spends lifetimes trapped in the atlas with the cursed knowledge of where he came from and what he has become... he eventually makes his escape and seeks to destroy the city that bore them both..

[dense rock]

the fuck? I thought valdo is the dude in the red/white shirt you need to find

[clear bough]

as eagon's coming of age sees him resembling sirus more and more, zana sees that she can no longer protect him safely from a distance, and flees into the atlas to confront sirus, her father, the elder, and end the cycle that sees sirus destroy the world.

[rancid sluice]

take it somewhere else good grief

[split maple]

On the one hand pinging zao would be rly impolite, on the other hand if we have to be reading these...

[dense rock]

We need omniknight to write patch notes for leaguestart in the form of his shit fanfic

[full kraken]

I still am holding to my theory that The Exile is actually one of the eldritch forces and The Atlas is a prison to contain us / keep us occupied

and that the "loop" of the atlas is actually "known" to some entities who witness its truth, and they have hinted at this to us

[cosmic eagle]

good one

[full kraken]

the leagues are actually cannon in game, we are stuck in a loop and dont know it

[pulsar ice]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

escape the loop

[clear bough]

As we see, Sirus is driven absolutely insane by the knowledge of his cursed existence, and the abandonment of zana, his lover, daughter, mother and sister.. (really the central figure of his entire life) to the void of the atlas, and eventually seeks the destruction of everything, at very least to feel anything again.

[dense rock]

Well... If you think about the power and feats performed by PCs.. They are pretty much in there with the worst of the eldrich abominations 😄

[clear bough]

Ultimately the pain of existence is too much, and he once again seeks out the elder in the atlas to consume his unending agony and free him from pain.

[full kraken]

Sirus is driven insane because he sees the "truth" of what the atlas really is imo

he hints at this in the fight and his dialogue

effectively as far as I see, all 5 of the elderslayers effectively got a glimpse "outside" of the prison and it shattered them

during the fight with the elder

[clear bough]

That's the basic bitch version of the story.

[dense rock]

tbh ill stick with pixxels version over your sistermotherbrother fuckery

[clear bough]

The true version is that it's a recursive prison, a vortex of reality where the elder continually feeds on sirus/valdo/eagon's unending agony, horror and pain over and over again, for all eternity.

[tranquil sedge]

so a bigger stakes version of the truman show? 😄

[full kraken]

I have a theory about what the ending of PoE2 is gonna be, and its gonna be that they open a time portal to ship The Beast back in time, and that its actually the same Beast we kill in PoE1

effectively completely a stable time loop

[tranquil sedge]

we have a beast in poe1?

[full kraken]

The Beast?

[split maple]

Some campaign thingie

[rancid sluice]

im not on enough drugs or possibly the wrong kind to follow all of this

[tranquil sedge]

o belly of the beast and stuff?

im just an average poe player dude i dont read lore

i just blast

[full kraken]

basically, the maven hints at this, some of the gods hint at it, the elderslayers hint at it, etc etc

[dense rock]

listen to some y00t00b video of the lore sometime. Its actually pretty damn interesting

[full kraken]

yeah thats The Beast you go inside of when its a max size and stuck underground

[tranquil sedge]

no patience for that unfortunately

[rancid sluice]

like .. why

[tranquil sedge]

i'd rather do anything else at all

[dense rock]

i can find you a subway surfers video to watch while listening 😄

[clear bough]

Bonus lore: When Maeve ahem i mean Maven, says to us, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise, you are like me! - this indicates, sadly, that we too are an emergent AI entity, and therefore not strictly speaking, biologically real....

[dense rock]

or do you prefer the minecraft parkour videos to help you keep attention on a 30sec video? 😛

[cosmic eagle]

stop with your rule34 poe lore version pls ty

[dense rock]

no

[full kraken]

basically Im calling that final fight in PoE2 is we are facing off against <some boss> + The Beast

We take down <some boss>, but then theres this "fuck The Beast has grown too strong, we cant kill it"

And then Doryani is gonna be like "Wait, I know what to do, I should have realized sooner" and opens a portal to send it back in time

Sin goes "bruh what? What are you... OOOOOOHHH"

And then The Beast gets sent back in time.... for us to kill in PoE1

[dense rock]

keep going, i want to see how far this goes

[marsh robin]

can someone please help me out on my biuld this is my user Hi_gameplay7#9195 and this is the biuld im following https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWIPL8Slvw&t=764s

[pulsar ice]

gtet fubgoon taxed

[split maple]

Try #1┃build-planning

[marsh robin]

I am dying so fast and feel like i do no damage

[clear bough]

true he makes sure that his builds fully suck and dont proprely function til you have hte mirror items and then u gotta buy them lol

[split maple]

What

[full kraken]

And then it explains everything

I explains why the Atziri event cannot be changed and is immutable and why it violates Chaos. It literally MUST occur because its a stable time loop

If it werent to occur, time would shatter cuz Doryani created a sealed fate when he sends it back. Its why Chaos is so pissed, its an utterly immutable point in time because it cant /not/ happen

[clear bough]

also so much stuff doesnt make sense from the guide so you have to go to chat and ask about it, driving traffic to his stream lol

[split maple]

Omni Life aint that deep

And I think you read too much of crap you wrote

[pulsar ice]

why is chaos a person? I'm not at all lore-savvy

[clear bough]

I'm not sure that you read what you wrote down, my guy

[split maple]

Like fubby builds are samey boring shit every league, their issue isn't being complex rly

[cosmic eagle]

have you watched the video? im pretty sure FUBGUN himself warns the viewers of how squishy the build is
like come on now

[clear bough]

I'm not so much talking about complexity, as being balanced in a way where the power only comes at the very very top end of the build's progression (intentional)

[cosmic eagle]

deadeye is squishy and dying on that class is the norm if you dont want to die easily go follow another guide

[bold kelp]

Is it dangerous to give enemies malev with treachery?

[split maple]

Yes you need hh for build to feel playable

That's it

[bold kelp]

I assume it only affects poison and bleed right

[full kraken]

anywho in terms of atlas, my headcanon is The Exile doesnt know it, but they are actually an embodiment/avatar of a similar power level entity as what Exarch, Eater, Maven, etc are

And for whatever reason they were exiled to the Atlas as a prison, which was specifically built to contain them, and they were put into a physical form and memories wiped so they dont know what they really are, nor question it, and the atlas is basically a play pen designed to entertain them forever and keep looping/resetting, so The Exile never turns their gaze to look outside of it

atm Id assume they are the embodiment of "Destruction" or something like that

and basically were too destructive and the other eldritch entities were like "okay we gotta lock this fuckin thing up its out of control"

[dense rock]

the exile is avatar of change

[pulsar ice]

damn now I wanna escape the atlas

[split maple]

Go touch the grass

[cosmic eagle]

if im escaping atlas, varashta is coming with me

[pulsar ice]

I think depth 10 million is the answer

[full kraken]

well, we would need to figure out how the maven/exarch/eater got into the atlas

like there clearly /is/ some form of "outside" of the atlas, thats where they came from

[dense rock]

smashed thru / squeezed thru the cracks in the foundation

[full kraken]

and from what our chatty buddy in the maps indicates, theres in fact a FUCK tonne of "outside" the atlas

[clear bough]

i am playing a kind of variant of the fubgun wander .. made some pretty cursed top end gear before it started to geneuinely feel playable

[full kraken]

to such a degree that "inside" the atlas is very small, merely a little speck of space compared to outside of it

and yet... here we are stuck inside it unable to leave

[cosmic eagle]

what if you are the atlas and maven came thru your nose

[split maple]

What if you post a pob instead of 22 images

[full kraken]

and also, every single entity that as glimpsed outside of it sure seems to talk a lot about how everything is a dream/fake/loop

[dense rock]

exile is just mavens tool of collecting new toys to smash together 😄

[pulsar ice]

looks very uninspiring tbh

[clear bough]

load up a full pob instead of some gear pics? why?

[full kraken]

I mean from how "young" maven is indicated to be, itd explain why she showed up out of curiousity, with an implication she perhaps doesnt know who/what you are til she fights you directly and then is like "OH HOLD ON"

[split maple]

Would be easier to see where you fucked up

[clear bough]

i didnt say i fucked up but u can see it if u want lol

[full kraken]

and then the exarch and eater show up to be like "okay we need to do some serious damage control here the maven fucked up" and then we fucking merc them

[dense rock]

maven is closer to azathoth than a child

[full kraken]

eater and exarch both refer to her as being young/naive

[clear bough]

Busdriver_Jow#5238 -> Nerf_Kinetic_Blast

[dense rock]

she is just fucking around with what she has, the moment she snaps out of her turpor is the moment all existence ceases to exist

[full kraken]

so theres an implication that on the scale of these eldritch beings, maven is very young

[clear bough]

it wont show all my swaps ofc

i have gem swaps, belt and flask swaps + chest swap

and shield swap

but shows the current state

[dense rock]

do the eldrich beings like eater and gang even understand time? 😄

[split maple]

What for

[clear bough]

optimisation for different content

[split maple]

Doing different content with deadeye sounds hella cursed to me

[clear bough]

bascially i wanted to do all content including ubers on a clear build but still be optimised for clear, so i came up with some gear swaps to make it easier

[split maple]

If that different content includes stuff that aint Legion and breach

[clear bough]

the results speak for themselves

[split maple]

So basically you doing stuff with build that inherently isn't good for it, then complaining it doesn't shine till you overinvest?

[full kraken]

so:

1. We, the avatar of destruction, are out of control
2. The eldritch entities vote or whatever to build the atlas and seal us in it as a form of damage control, theyre scared of us
3. We fuck around in there for awhile
4. The maven, who is young and didnt know about #2 happening ages ago, is like "owo whats this" and slips in to explore, and then encounters us
5. We rock mavens shit and she suddenly clicks in to go "Ohhh okay I get it now"
6. Exarch and Eater are both like "Oh fuck oh fuck we need to do damage control" and come in the fix things, only to discover now the Maven and The Exile have teamed up
7. We proceed to absolutely merc the Exarch and Eater which is a way bigger problem, presumably this now clearly marks us as "a big fuckin problem" now, we've somehow grown stronger in our time in our prison

And now Im gonna guess some even bigger entities are gonna roll in to be like "okay we have to deal with this for real now, time to bring out the big guns"

[heady cliff]

common trope for that is to trap Unspeakable Things in never-ending expanse of (something)

[full kraken]

I dunno if GGG would ever fully commit to 100% making this exposed in lore, but I think we will continue to get very tiny subtle hints about it as long as poe1 continues

[heady cliff]

maps in our case

[full kraken]

exactly, and wipe our memory and seal us in a vessel pseudo mortal (but not) body

we are an avatar of destruction and they put us in an endless series of rooms we can blow shit up in, it'll keep us occupied and every now and then it resets

[pulsar ice]

and hows the memory thing slips into all of this?

[split maple]

I am starting to believe pixxel and omni are some jekyll and hyde type situation

[clear bough]

no?

[full kraken]

the elder was clear the tool used to keep our memory wiped, thats like Its Thing it does, The Elder was probably originally placed inside the Atlas to act as a check/balance against The Exile to make sure it doesnt regain its memories

[pulsar ice]

[full kraken]

if we were to ever remember what we are, itd upgrade the situation to "A super duper big fuckin problem"

[clear bough]

i was commenting on the early game situation, like just doing normal rare maps with scarabs

once you have everything top end like this, then you really are a god and you can do all content like ubers and nightmare maps

[full kraken]

and unfortunately, what the entities didnt account for, is for people in the atlas to become strong enough to seal The Elder and break their emergency break

[split maple]

Like this only makes sense for me if you are trying to force deadeye to do non-blasting content

Coz it can blast at like hh and multimod wand

[clear bough]

it cant really blast til you reach a pretty damn high gearing level and that includes clusters and lethal pride and the other unique jewels + hh and a really damn good wand

[split maple]

Prog before hh is kinda cursed granted

[full kraken]

well they arent playing Twisters so Im kind of insulted

wait

hold on which one am I

[clear bough]

and phys conversion setup which actually needs a perfect eldritch implicit

i'm not tryna hate on you for seeing it differently, that was just my experience

[split maple]

Just do veiled + bench gloves and mastery

[clear bough]

and of the last 4 fub builds i did, it felt about the same

it really felt like it needed every mod to be perfect for it to click so you arent dying constantly - get that's the curse of a glass cannon clear build

but it is what it is

[full kraken]

I thought the meta is just slap gladiator or chief on BV abuse and run zoom shrine belt and blast maps at mach 20 while also being unkillable

[clear bough]

i w as just following up on the comment about a guy saying, that's the fub tax

[split maple]

Yea Ig if you don't like having 1k deaths week 2 build aint for you

That's fair

[clear bough]

and it turned into a lifeswork thesis master submission lol

[full kraken]

Ive gt like 3.5k life, only 75 resists, like... 10% chaos res, and I basically never die in T16s

[split maple]

But it rly isn't expensive to get it to functional state

[cosmic eagle]

is this fine for kf?

[clear bough]

yeah i really really dont like dying

[split maple]

Its Just fundamentaly boring builds

[clear bough]

or playing super safe to avoid it

[full kraken]

does trinity care about skill duration? I dont... think it does, it should be okay right

[full kraken]

you prolly wanna play gladiator or chief then

[clear bough]

i might have a tainted bias, coming from a place where i would normally follow a ziz or tuna or palsteron build, these tend to be very stable and solid and less glass cannonny

[cosmic eagle]

i got the most dogshit slams for kf, bonechill, hextouch, add chaos, immolate and trinity

[split maple]

Yea that's why I Got sokratis to imbue my gems

I always hit the most ridiculus crap with my rng

[full kraken]

could be worse, you could slam Efficacy

[clear bough]

if htis is the part you're interested in, to summarise

[full kraken]

honestly not the worst, seems good

[clear bough]

decent for a clear wander

[full kraken]

how many seconds does Strand take you to clear?

[clear bough]

on deadeye

define clear 😄

i can move really fast 😄

[full kraken]

whats your farm strat

[clear bough]

haha mostly i do beyond breach

drops so many volatile vaal orbs

and divs

[full kraken]

wait is that actually your movespeed?

[clear bough]

also been doing kalguuran ore with blue altars and delve nodes

getting mirror shards from shipping

people say mirror shards from shipping is dead but i been getting 2 shards on 50 mil shipments

even got the angler runegraft that gog said we wont get

[cosmic eagle]

oh damn so kf ballista is no go for trinity slam

[clear bough]

depends if i optimise for it, i can put this on if i want it but that is waaay too fast for me

[split maple]

Self-attack kf

[cosmic eagle]

[clear bough]

i can t really control my character if i put the qs flask on lol

[split palm]

Zhp... Zdps...

[clear bough]

yep for sure lol

[split maple]

Using mageblood on deadeye? 🤔

[split palm]

Heresy lmao

[cosmic eagle]

for more def and not dying surely

[clear bough]

yeah well i reached that level of min max

[cosmic eagle]

[split maple]

MB is worse defence than hh

Like you rly need hh stacks to survive juicing

[split palm]

clear char
deadeye
MB

[final owl]

if it works it works

[split palm]

https://tenor.com/view/maomao-disgusted-apothecary-maomao-anime-disgust-the-apothecary-diaries-apothecary-diaries-gif-277569285267881835

[clear bough]

ive tried both setups

not speaking out of ignorance here lol

[pulsar ice]

rightmost swag

[clear bough]

and since we on it, here's my chest swap

i went a bit nuts on crafting

tho my neck could use an upgrade

[final owl]

fancy. why 15% qual on attack :I

[clear bough]

could improve it a bit

but it random rolls between values and quality types

on unique, you can't just add to it

*on corrupted

i couldnt be bothered mathing out if it would make a functional difference for dps, honestly

[split palm]

slam 20% elemental

[clear bough]

when i hit that i was like good enough!

also been considering a svalinn setup, the block is nice

but lucky block and spell block would be nicer

[pulsar ice]

just entered the area, looks like the most ethical map setup ever

[clear bough]

niiiice

gl

[split maple]

250 alts

[livid quarry]

is 5.5 hr a10 slow

[split maple]

For fresh legstart run it's ok

[livid quarry]

checking how slow phox rf is

[kindred silo]

depends who got the 5.5h

[final owl]

5.5h is magically quick for me 😄

[kindred silo]

but rf should be fine for acts in terms of speed

[livid quarry]

[tranquil sedge]

fast for me

slow for others

[kindred silo]

not like the fastest but around maybe only like 10% slower than slams or whatever is the fastest rn

[full kraken]

You get used to it with practice

Slowly your tolerance goes up, now anything below +500% ms feels slow to me lol

[tranquil sedge]

10%?

[livid quarry]

ima six link the rf instead of fire trap

[tranquil sedge]

the fastest ppl are doing like 3h leaguestart campaigns i think now?

[livid quarry]

throwing traps too slow

[full kraken]

It only takes like 1 day of playing at a high ms for you to start adjusting to it tbh

[tranquil sedge]

the gradual acclimatization is nice tho

part of the arpg charm in general

[kindred silo]

pretty sure those people can do around the same speed on rf

[tranquil sedge]

oh you meant like that i c

[kindred silo]

ventrua did 3:30

like 2 leagues ago

[tranquil sedge]

dam

[full kraken]

I thought EConc was the choice still

[clear bough]

haha i couldnt

[full kraken]

Or does KF beat it now

Id assume KF kinda sucks day 1 without gear for it

[tranquil sedge]

is econc limited to just dueliest/ranger or can anyone run it

[split maple]

With totems not rly

Without totems it's kinda tough

[clear bough]

my pc already struggling on rtx 3080 ryzen 9 5900 to put up frames (i have to pause it frequently to catch up) another bad thing about hh

[full kraken]

What is it about totems that make it better?

[tranquil sedge]

what is limiting you

did you check f1 graphs

[kindred silo]

u can scale attack speed as much as u want

[tranquil sedge]

should be able to see it there

[kindred silo]

without running into duration problems

[clear bough]

this thing struggles

[split maple]

Its less dependant on duration

[clear bough]

i believe my issue is cooling.. my liquid setup is not good enough

[full kraken]

How? Whats the magic trick?

[tranquil sedge]

wait what

2133mhz?

[kindred silo]

totems have less as

kinda on the gem itself

[tranquil sedge]

is your ram running at full speed

[opal ingot]

i

[tranquil sedge]

or is that just how it says it there

[opal ingot]

fucking forgot ridan again

[clear bough]

lemme check the box

[split palm]

DDR3 RAM pog

[opal ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-ground-nero-rage-gif-18336810

[clear bough]

mmmm you right says 3600 on the box

[tranquil sedge]

check if xmp/expo is enabled in bios

[split palm]

you need to profile it

[full kraken]

Which is peaking at 100%, gpu or cpu?

Im gonna guess cpu

[thick vine]

What are you struggling with

[tranquil sedge]

if its not enabled, enable it

[clear bough]

i would guess cpu

[tranquil sedge]

don't guess

f1 in-game

check the actual graph

[full kraken]

Or just open process monitor

[split palm]

wait, it's f1 default

[tranquil sedge]

or msi afterburner rtss overlay
or process mon yea

anything

[split palm]

thought it was the uhhhhh

[thick vine]

Honestly after latest nvidia update, it looks like both

[full kraken]

And look for which one says "100%"

[split palm]

key to the left of it

whatever it'S called xd

[tranquil sedge]

but do all that after u check your ram speed in bios

that should be first priority

[clear bough]

everything in my life got worse after windows forced me to w11

it caused a bunch of issues that caused me to upgrade my gpu driver and that made more things worse

[pulsar ice]

damn, only 3 div in that whole map

[full kraken]

Im at the point my network card is my main bottleneck.

But thats what you get with a cheapo $100 laptop

[tranquil sedge]

you play via streaming?

[clear bough]

well im on a desktop not cheap, but outdated by now

rtx3080 is old af now

[tranquil sedge]

its not outdated lmfao

not by a long shot

[full kraken]

Yup, shitty wifi speed cuz my wifi card on the laptop is super old

[tranquil sedge]

get a usb adapter for 10 bucks or smth

[thick vine]

I updated to latest nvidia but for some reason it changed my game settings back to defaults

[full kraken]

Pretty sure my USB bus is gonna be even worse

Id wanna just buy a better wifi card.

But, then its a question of how well my mobo/cpu can support it

I may actually save up for the framework pro when it drops

I dunno, I gotta lotta more important things to spend money on tho. Home renos

[tranquil sedge]

pc is #1

damn right

[short prairie]

baited

[split palm]

fix your ram first please

it's most probably RAM

[tranquil sedge]

^

[subtle forge]

Dumb question, probably: self-cast only?

[tranquil sedge]

probably not since it doesn't seem to imply that anywhere

[subtle forge]

I figured, yeah

[onyx adder]

Is ur shader cache taking forever on zone loads

[cosmic eagle]

dying sun affects kf on totem or nah?

[onyx adder]

I can see shaders going berserk in ur f1

[subtle forge]

I would think so

[clear bough]

i feel like i dont have zone load issues

[cosmic eagle]

[tranquil sedge]

Skills fire 2 additional Projectiles during Effect
it just says skills, so ye

[fathom basin]

I just hit someone with my car

[marsh robin]

what is the best ranger biuld?

[onyx adder]

Aight well if its shaders i had that problem earlier this league after windows updates and fixed by setting shader cache to unlimited

[thick goblet]

what budget and content

[opal ingot]

wtf

so my plots are working in the miragfe

[tranquil sedge]

covfefe

[opal ingot]

but normal maps have some weirdness to them

i need more

data

[clear bough]

i been feelin like this is my issue rather than top mounted rad but idk, i will look into the memory speed thing seee if i can work that out

[tranquil sedge]

when you troubleshoot something go step by step

dont jump all over the place

[livid quarry]

get rid of the rbg its extra heat

[clear bough]

well i'm not, that was my starting point, but rn im gonna look into the ram speed sec, restarting

[tranquil sedge]

kk just saying then

[fathom basin]

obviously tank ranger is the best one

[surreal mulch]

i genuinely still dont belive that evasion tanks are real

[opal ingot]

huh

[surreal mulch]

this game is max hit central

[split palm]

real quick

was that

a pre-built?

[livid quarry]

are neblius easy to drop

[split palm]

Because a single 120mm AIO is kind of too little for the 9 5900X imo

[split palm]

Depends

[cosmic eagle]

yeah nebulis is kinda common

40% drop rate

[split palm]

If you just want nebu yes, if you want a good nebu - hard

[livid quarry]

league start item

[clear bough]

ok so basically everything was set to auto, it said, target memory speed 3600, but on the right it said speed 2133 or whatever

now i manually set the bios value to 3600 and voila

[tranquil sedge]

now try playing again check if theres any improvement

[split palm]

I hope you don't have XMP on if you did that

[clear bough]

m

im not one to fuck in bios settings so i didn't know everything to look at there

[tranquil sedge]

now i manually set the bios value to 3600 and voila
was there not an option for docp/expo in the bios to do that automatically

[clear bough]

^.

[tranquil sedge]

okai

[clear bough]

if not for u guys i would have never seen that the ram speed was off

ive known something's wrong for a good while now since w11 forced uipdate but not known how to find or fix it

made me wonder if my shit is all just outdated but then again it never used to be this bad

though experiencial memory is a fickle bitch

[livid quarry]

omg i just realized dom scarabs are cheap in trade i can league start w.e i want easily

[clear bough]

ye my frames are going crazy, like it's frozen half the time.. if i get headhunter stealing frost circle, and i hold down KB near it, it nearly blows up my pc from all the calcs lol

[tranquil sedge]

give cpu temp check a go then ye

any program of ur choice just run a map and check wat the temps are like

[tranquil sedge]

monkas

[cosmic eagle]

holy temps

[tranquil sedge]

thats probably it

whats the power draw btw

should be listed somewhere below

[split palm]

said so

ooops

[tranquil sedge]

aye u did

[split palm]

wrong reply

[clear bough]

yep feels like the rear rad aint doing it, i used to have 32c on my old setup

[split palm]

yeah

the 120mm AIO is too weak

[clear bough]

but with this cpu it isnt good eenough

[tranquil sedge]

wat was ur old cpu

[clear bough]

hmmm might have been intel phenom 2 black

going back a bit

[tranquil sedge]

"a bit" l0l

[clear bough]

hahah yep

like 2007 2013 cant even remember

that lasted me a long time

[tranquil sedge]

^

[clear bough]

til like 2018-19

i have a goated psu ax 1600i so it's not going to be that but lemme see

[surreal mulch]

what the fuck

do you have a miner virus or something

[surreal mulch]

are you in the equator

[tranquil sedge]

not about the psu just wondering hm heat the rad could dissipate and if setting a power limit might be a temporary solution till you bump up the cooler

also usual stuff - you applied thermal paste and its making good contact right

70 watts?

how's it overheating at 70 watts

[clear bough]

it could be possible ? though i dont really fuck with bad stuff, i dont try to pirate anything or go through unfamiliar aps or anything

[cosmic eagle]

fuck buying new cpu fan, buy a whole ass aircon

[clear bough]

i did though i replaced it 4 times

thinking that it might be the issue

[tranquil sedge]

if you close the game what temps are you idling at

like when ur just sitting there starting at ur monitor

[clear bough]

when i was having crashes repeatedly, but replaced my psu and it all stopped til that windows update.. now i dont have crashes but it's hot and sluggish

in bios it said 74 or somth from memory

[tranquil sedge]

yea shika was right its just a cooling issue then

[clear bough]

dont know if it's possible a connector is wrong with sensor or power

on mobo

[opal ingot]

hmm

[tranquil sedge]

you can try remounting the cooler and applying new thermal paste if u want

but if the aio is like 4-5+ years old might just be a good excuse to try getting a new and better one

leaning towards the latter if money is not an object

[clear bough]

yep i bought new thermal paste and cleaned it off and remounted it a few weeks back

and the issue persists

[short prairie]

what is this

[clear bough]

bet if i get a top mou nted rad it's fixed .. 😠

[short prairie]

this should only be like 200d in trade isnt it

[clear bough]

yeah it really limited my poe gameplay this league having bad performance made poe feel like shit for blasting

could be half of my complaints are invalid because of this

and if it was running normally the build would be fine

[clear bough]

did manage to beat nightmare maps, ubers and feared on it tho but i had to get geared as hell first lol

[split palm]

look at the wand

[cosmic eagle]

migrate and dont forget about me

[split palm]

there are people

playing with worse hardware doing just fine

[short prairie]

the wands are kind of bad tho

[clear bough]

mmm

[split palm]

no I meant as in

[surreal mulch]

does anyone know how expensive a lifestacker apostate build is to get like idk 10k life

[split palm]

imagine spending 10 mirrors like kafka did

to get mogged by a multimod

[surreal mulch]

to get mogged by bladeblast

[clear bough]

i wasnt imagining i would find an upgrade to this

[short prairie]

im pretty sure its a pob bug or something

[cosmic eagle]

i believe one of the ai voices but good youtubers zero to hero played a life stacker this league in ssf and achieved more than 10k hp

[short prairie]

else this would be an Uber Uber Uber Super Dan video

[clear bough]

then i dropped this when i did my feared for challenge last night

[split palm]

it's not a pob bug

[clear bough]

fucking disgusting

[cosmic eagle]

it's either https://pobb.in/Hy1svTO6h0FY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZOdLsjWeA4

[split palm]

it's poe ninja defaulting to 900 stacks

[cosmic eagle]

yeah this guy

exiled cat the goat

[clear bough]

and dropped this one in heist 😄

[short prairie]

what are the usual stacks

[split palm]

50ish iirc

[frigid wedge]

so like

its taken me a week to realise half my link group are influenced affixes and i actually lose literally nothing using 11L other than the dd from paradoxica

and gem quality

[split palm]

hi sans

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah I think I saw this one

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[clear bough]

took me beating uber uber elder with a gem missing from my main skill setup to realise i had crit damage unsocketed D:

no wonder that was hard lol

[surreal mulch]

the problem is every single sign on every single build I'm seeing is pointing to "use something other than acceleration belt"

[frigid wedge]

i guess I'm making a dagger

[cosmic eagle]

yep that guy, magefist and my boy dexykai 3 of the best ai voices poe creators out there

[pulsar ice]

I wonder if I make a bumch of fractured life reservation manifold rings people would buy them, virtually no supply on the market on those htings

[surreal mulch]

tts isn't ai lol

[livid quarry]

wouldnt want to find out this late in league

[cosmic eagle]

well that's an ssf run and so it doesnt force you to buy accel belt lmao

[frigid wedge]

after a certain number of affixes ur ring stops being a mist target

[stuck phoenix]

Not really. I want at least a desk and a keyboard and mouse

[surreal mulch]

the main reason I bought it is because it's giga fun conceptually and thought would like double clearspeed but I'm struggling to convert speed to damage

currently I'm doing cyclone impale and got like 4 mil dps

[split palm]

if you aren't delusional - yes

[pulsar ice]

I think I'd make 1 and see if it sells at all for like 30 div

[stuck phoenix]

Also ngl I want a proper chair

[surreal mulch]

yeah those folding chairs are ass

[cosmic eagle]

i was actually planning to play that life stacking stuff until i farmed 55 hivegland 0 axe and i got the fucking ring somehow

this game is unhinged

[frigid wedge]

oh interesting, am required to run a rune dagger

for pen

[stuck phoenix]

What ring

[cosmic eagle]

that ring uul netol

[glacial frost]

hello i am transitioning my character to shock nova of procession
my problem is that i cannot leech my life and end up dying

[stuck phoenix]

What ring

[cosmic eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[stuck phoenix]

Just eldritch implicit gloves?

[stuck phoenix]

You do know rings are the things you put on your hands

[cosmic eagle]

oh it's amulet

[stuck phoenix]

Xddd

[cosmic eagle]

[stuck phoenix]

Lemme just casually make a 9l body yes

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i got that first before the bloody axe

[frigid wedge]

call me glad the way i bleed on everything

why is this sus

[stuck phoenix]

If you're bleeding, please patch it up

If that doesn't help, go see a doctor

[clear bough]

hahaha wtf is that cute cat, i got a grey british short hair with a flat face and reminds me of it

[stuck phoenix]

?

[frigid wedge]

sorry lemme completely immobilise my hands

[stuck phoenix]

Sus

[frigid wedge]

i do need to sort my shit out but yk

[stuck phoenix]

I don't

I really don't

[frigid wedge]

im too tired to deal w my hands rn

[stuck phoenix]

Sus

[frigid wedge]

I've been doing a very poor job at keeping ocd in check and the result is my hands bleeding

[stuck phoenix]

Sus

[clear bough]

thankfully mine manifests in other ways

but don't give it ideas

[stuck phoenix]

Get help

[frigid wedge]

its fine ill sort it, just gonna take a bit

[cosmic eagle]

typing in keyboard while your hands is bleeding? you need help

[frigid wedge]

idrk what u want me to do

[stuck phoenix]

Patch up your hands

[frigid wedge]

they aren't currently bleeding

[clear bough]

I had a panic attack at the pathologist when she typed my email address into the computer system and it fit exactly into the box on the last character... this condition is inexplicable

[cosmic eagle]

type with your feet

[frigid wedge]

no

[frigid wedge]

this shit is so real man

[stuck phoenix]

Use speech to text technology

[clear bough]

I have no idea why my brain even noticed or cared about that, but it also didn't know how to process it lol

[stuck phoenix]

Or just send voice messages xddd

[frigid wedge]

nty

i have lessons anyway

[ruby geyser]

My fiance is the same way. No judgement sorry you go through this stuff

[frigid wedge]

hands just v dry rn

[split palm]

aren't there like moisturizers to solve exactly that

[frigid wedge]

it comes and goes, eventually ill find a permanent solution

[clear bough]

moisturisers arguably cause hand dryness

in the long term

[ruby geyser]

Only hers isn't just excessive hand washing. She thinks germs are all over food sometimes and won't eat at all bc of it

[split palm]

I don't use any cosmetics/moisturizers/etc.

[frigid wedge]

i sleep in gloves after coating hands in it, it helps somewhat but issue is always gonna b the amount of hand washing

[clear bough]

i also have panic attacks if i don't have sanitiser and tissues near me lol

[cosmic eagle]

[frigid wedge]

mine has other stuff such as getting really upset when ppl touch me at all

.-.

[clear bough]

i go to my mother's house and there is no sanitisers or tissues anywhere and i just freak out and end up leaving

[ruby geyser]

Ever try any exposure therapy?

[split palm]

I mean

that is normal, no?

[stuck phoenix]

Uh

Normally people don't get a strong reaction from being touched at all no

[frigid wedge]

i have so many mental issues but only one i would say actually ruins my life is the ocd

[clear bough]

for me, it's like i get caught in an action loop that i can't complete and i can't say anything about it, i just short out really fast bc i can't close the loop, and i have to leave.. thankfully i'm not sleeping in gloves at this point, but yeah...

[split palm]

like being randomly touched (even in appropriate manners) is very fucking weird

[thick goblet]

have you also double checked your monitors refresh rate? not joking btw

[frigid wedge]

yk when ur in a crowded hallway and ppl bump into your elbow or whatever?

that elbow is getting washed

[stuck phoenix]

There's dislike being touched randomly. And then there's dislike being touched at all for any reason.

[split palm]

okay, not to that extent

[clear bough]

I haven't looked into that, it is an older one, i've never had a good fast refresh rate monitor

[ruby geyser]

I think I shared last night but I was hit by a car in 2023 and developed some biological issues afterwards. One being Bipolar. It absolutely sucks. That's why I live on poe now, one of the few things that keep shit thoughts away

[split palm]

but I would cuss at the person

[ruby geyser]

neurological*

[clear bough]

i think you meant psychological issues?

yeah, gotcha

[ruby geyser]

I guess you can call Bipolar phycological

[clear bough]

I hadn't read that you corrected it yet

[frigid wedge]

bido am i allowed to send a picture of my hand if i spoiler it

[ruby geyser]

That was a typo my bad! Didn't know but head trauma onsets personality disorders. Was totally normal happy go lucky person. Now not so much

[stuck phoenix]

Uhhh

I dunno

[clear bough]

mmmmmmmmmmmm similar for me, but i cant exactly pinpoint the trauma event that specifically fucked up my life, because there was a few of them

[frigid wedge]

kk

[clear bough]

I've become pretty severely agorophobic and black out from vasalvagal response at times

like i get very very nauseous, dizzy, crunch up and collapse, and then wake up crying and shaking and gasping for air, trying to not vommit and my blood pressure cant get up

[stuck phoenix]

If it doesn't break no nsfw or so it's probably OK, but that bar is subjective, and this is #poe1

[ruby geyser]

Dude that's totally acceptable tbh. It sucks out there these days anyways. Now there's bio weapons ticks on the loose. We're safe here on POE lol

[frigid wedge]

fair point

im happy to shift the discussion to offtopic tbf

[thick goblet]

is this a diagnosed medical issue or a stress response

[frigid wedge]

im usually not bc theres ppl already talking etc

[thick goblet]

well idek if there's a difference

[clear bough]

a few times when it happened was in hospital as they were discharging me from a checkup, so at least it got documented a few times

different doctors had their theories but it wasnt really conclusively understood

[thick goblet]

people in offtopic are weird tho

[frigid wedge]

we could shift to a thread in this channel?

[thick goblet]

or just keep yapping till one of the other mods yells at us

[clear bough]

one surgeon theorised that it was neuro-cardio response that is rarely seen because it's unusual for people as young as me to suffer conditions like this, and older people who normally experience it don't have strong healthy hearts, so they don't get that biological trigger..

[ruby geyser]

I think we're having a perfectly normal and healthy convo here

[split palm]

it's not like poe league isn't kind of dead for most people

[frigid wedge]

i feel like goal should not be to push our luck

[clear bough]

he says he thinks it's a good sign that my heart is healthy, not the other way around.. just have to stare blankly and accept it

[stuck phoenix]

I think this is fairly offtopic

[ruby geyser]

Tbh I've only ever seen a handful of you guys consistently in this thread. Seems like the same friendly group

[stuck phoenix]

I was having fun today getting some map grinding, some random stuff like a blueprint, somehow selling my failed wand for 400c

[frigid wedge]

Smth smth mental health

[ruby geyser]

I gotta do jewel sockets on Binos. If it doesn't fix the single target damage I swear. Clear is so fun but single target is hot dog water right now*

[split palm]

I can't sell my amu 200d under market

[stuck phoenix]

Both wings in the bp were trash though. Like 5c together

[clear bough]

sometimes i think you just gotta chat where you're at

if you had to go there specifically for that, you wouldn't

[frigid wedge]

fair enough

[clear bough]

but good to have the option tho

[drowsy eagle]

did they remove replica alberon I've been heisting for 2 days

[frigid wedge]

kek

[short prairie]

iheist for the entire league

jsut got 1

[stuck phoenix]

It's not 19d minimum corrupted in trade for no reason

[short prairie]

i have 6 replica dreamfeathers

[stuck phoenix]

That is, a loss roll on volatile vaal

[short prairie]

3 replica stampedes

[stuck phoenix]

For 19d

Worse than default roll

Not corrupted at 60d huh

[drowsy eagle]

I'm missing iron fortress also burned like 400 chances

[mental nymph]

It's always the shitty replicas in bps

At this point ,idk what determine a good enchanted bp,is it rarity ?

[short prairie]

get it from tree

[stuck phoenix]

An enchantment that improves the pool?

[drowsy eagle]

that's all I've been doing with tree

[mental nymph]

Oh such as ?

[frigid wedge]

replica items

[stuck phoenix]

Iirc currency is good for example

I think bases is good?

[mental nymph]

Currency is consistent

Experimental are good

[stuck phoenix]

And enchanted would be bad I imagine

[mental nymph]

But takes a while to get an expensive base

Replicas are a meme

[split palm]

depends probably

getting a good enchant probably not as bad

[stuck phoenix]

I mean, the enchantment to get enchanted items

[split palm]

yea

[stuck phoenix]

I'm assuming it exists

[split palm]

I know

[stuck phoenix]

Haven't actually checked

[split palm]

and I think it does

[stuck phoenix]

But they're usually the duds

[split palm]

it's ok I'd say

[stuck phoenix]

So I can't imagine it'll be good

And they're, by necessity, a settle

So they can't be that expensive

[split palm]

if you happen to get the correct base.. with a correct enchant

[stuck phoenix]

Because then you just tailor instead

Because most people would rather start on overqual

Frac

Funny base type like experimented

[frigid wedge]

the replica enchant is like 5c iirc

[stuck phoenix]

How much is plain bp?

Trash?

Also weird thing to reply to

That was about enchanted items not being able to be expensive

I imagine the trinket enchant is also garbage

[frigid wedge]

not much, everyone has heist on atlas rn

[stuck phoenix]

Searching for just ilvl 83, first bunch of results, as expected, are enchanted and trinkets

Both for 1c

Makes sense

Because those are the things you don't want

Even full revealed they're starting at 4c

4 wings full revealed, that is

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[mental nymph]

The expensive ones are experimented and currency enchanted ,around 365c or so in instant buyout

Maybe even more now

[frigid wedge]

idk how much crown of eyes does for me rn icl

[drowsy eagle]

I'm getting bored with heist

maybe I'll level a speedster

[grizzled lily]

thats good lol just buy alot in bulk and sell them around for more

[frigid wedge]

i kinda wanna make a lab runner on duelist

[grizzled lily]

on thursday

thats when the beast and heist resources

run dry

[final owl]

what happens on thursday

[drowsy eagle]

wednesday ends

[stuck phoenix]

Nothing

[grizzled lily]

theres no such thing as labrunners, theyve been on seclussion even after the lab update

[grizzled lily]

ususlly thats when everything kinda spikes

[stuck phoenix]

What

I sold kboc for over 1000c twice this league

[grizzled lily]

noones showing labrunner pobs

[frigid wedge]

i wanna use accel

[grizzled lily]

besides tr

[stuck phoenix]

Imbues have made trans gem prices skyrocket

[grizzled lily]

like bp middle of the week sell for 10c and in the weekend for 2c

[grizzled lily]

yea but whoever runs labs never goes public with their build strats

[stuck phoenix]

Sure, but that's not what you said here at all

[frigid wedge]

its literally just high movement speed and decent dps

[grizzled lily]

i mean yea

[frigid wedge]

its identical builds to for beasts

[stuck phoenix]

You just make a heist runner and give it barely enough damage to kill Izaro, possibly with item swap

[grizzled lily]

yea but usually u go heister with high ms and zdps but how do u kill map area 83 izaro now

if u want to actually run the juicy labs

i dont seem to find anyone thats running them

or if they are

theyre gatekeeping

[stuck phoenix]

I've seen one

Without looking

[grizzled lily]

the 3rd eye

😲

[stuck phoenix]

True

[frank tangle]

if I had questions for the community about general feedback of tools, (may be a lengthy post) where would it be right to post?

[split maple]

You Just do chest swap

Which is why poeninja don't see them

[split palm]

actually

what the fuck

[split maple]

But like suitsizesmall has public profile on poelab no?

[split palm]

why won't the amu sell...

[frigid wedge]

dot quiver widowhail tr has decent dps with minimal gear

[heady cliff]

shrapnel ballistas and general speedrun core might still work

ofc pf would be a lot better

[frank tangle]

Looking for Community feedback

[cosmic eagle]

[frigid wedge]

i mean, accel minion pact is best rn bc like, accel setup better than flasks for ms

[pulsar ice]

I am literally clinically insane buying those rings for t5 minion damage for 5c

[cosmic eagle]

you are rich

[frigid wedge]

u would use bv, however, i might just add divine retribution for funsies

[heady cliff]

it is also almost 200d according to ninja

210d and 15d investement is "a bit" different

[frigid wedge]

yeah, im just telling u what's optimal

tr setup also isnt 10d

bc u need a dot quiver

[heady cliff]

shrapnel needs a good ele bow too

probably cheaper than dot quiver tbh

[split palm]

wasting time on making a site that nobody will realistically use, because poe ninja already exists 😭

and pob itself

[cosmic eagle]

let the man do his project

[grizzled lily]

true

we dont hate here

take your hate ELSEWHERE!

[frank tangle]

im making sure you're blacklisted when i realease it in 20 years

[split palm]

feel free

[cosmic eagle]

[short prairie]

My ISP cut my internet off

[surreal mulch]

should have asked for an axe

[short prairie]

I ran around 100 hiveglands

1 axe

[frigid wedge]

which axe

kith?

wind?

[short prairie]

Wind

[opal ingot]

doubling rose up to 12c

in 1 week its gonna be 60c

[nova minnow]

Are there any builds using the elegy thingg

all i see is vaal absolution

[dense rock]

its kinda shitty for a 2hander

[nova minnow]

[dense rock]

pretty sure it loses out to magic 1h+shield for most builds 😄

[frigid wedge]

edge of madness?

[nova minnow]

Broken Elegy

the saresh drop

[frigid wedge]

which one was that

[nova minnow]

Foul staff that no one wants

[frigid wedge]

can u send xD

[frigid wedge]

oh that

[nova minnow]

I thought the bulwark could be cool for a tanky munion build guess not

[frigid wedge]

the bulwark is like ward

[dense rock]

so damn bad 😄

[frigid wedge]

takes 1 hit

iirc

[nova minnow]

damn

[split palm]

Cast on bulwark break

I can see the vision

(I don't)

[dense rock]

the ceaseless flesh also seems pretty damn useless

"yay enjoy your 5sec duration weaker than normal zombie"

[frigid wedge]

i can see it being good if u play popcorn spectres w it tbf

[nova minnow]

but if ur spectres

why dont u run the kata shield

so the elegy is still bad

[surreal mulch]

technically if you cast fast enough you can eat all the exarch balls

[dense rock]

it would need a really strong gimmick for it to not lose to lvling rares

[surreal mulch]

unless there's a cooldown

[split palm]

Playing minions tho

Bleh

[dense rock]

cast speed doesnt affect anything from it?

[limpid prairie]

true, ward is kinda awesome vs firey balls

[surreal mulch]

respawning and killing minyons

you have to be the one to do it so it's more reliable

[dense rock]

summons a 5sec duration weak zombie once per sec
minion dying gives ward equal to 5% of its hp (new minion dying doesnt give a stack, it replaces the old one)=

weak af

[surreal mulch]

zombies are permanent actually

semi permanent

[dense rock]

semi permanent, as in 5 secs of permanency? 😄

[surreal mulch]

I meant normal zombie

wtf is this shit

I was talking about bulwark

[frigid wedge]

which one

[dense rock]

we trying to make a complete meme unique in to build defining thing but we are struggling 😄

i dont really see any situtation where that staff would be a good idea to use

[frigid wedge]

i still think popcorns

[surreal mulch]

I do think there's a way to become immortal using it

[frigid wedge]

instability marionettes

[nova minnow]

[dense rock]

just gotta nuke a minion couple times a sec

[frigid wedge]

survivability on smth that constantly kills spectre tho

[surreal mulch]

how many times does memory game hit?

[nova minnow]

its ok u scale the spectre hp

[surreal mulch]

is it one or is it like three

[nova minnow]

and run... minon pact

[surreal mulch]

no

[dense rock]

guys...

what if

minion hp boosty support doesnt get nerfed

[surreal mulch]

did they even do anything for april 1st this year

I'm pretty sure no

they should have added two handed claws

[nova minnow]

Maw of mischief

[frigid wedge]

sure but autobomber

[nova minnow]

[surreal mulch]

why infernal legion when guardian blessing

[frigid wedge]

bc Guardian blessing requires dealing with timing

so that u dont gotta click it

[surreal mulch]

why not both

[frigid wedge]

and u can just give them shit fire res and instakill xD

[hoary scarab]

ive used it a ton in the early league, it was pretty competitive dps wise for poison ranged animate weapon, but less tanky

[final owl]

who does the best bannerman build

[frigid wedge]

blazar

[surreal mulch]

oh wait do you need to fucking turn on guardian blessing back on every time?

[surreal mulch]

you can do a cool banner minion build

[hearty swan]

Only took 32 craters btw

[frigid wedge]

if u have no available minions at any point u gotta click again

[hearty swan]

[surreal mulch]

why

aren't they just like 50 div now

[hearty swan]

im unlucky af