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wait Stun is kinda awesome i just stunned Brutus out of his triple slam attack
no
too bad
No reason in that build to have common or magic items
i wish harvest was good here
i think its like 3k yellow per div on pc , its 9k here anything else 15k
there used to be op permastun builds with tidebreaker and shit
iirc quant would affect it since its not a unique or a currency
man heavy strike just feels like PoE2
This sounds wrong
how so
currency and rarity wont increase the amount of lifeforce
but having more quant will always affect drops
packsize is king for lifeforce, quant is second
but saying quant matters coz its not a unique or a currency
rly sounds wrong
the moment you realized kill corrupted rares doesnt mean any map with red it mean vaal orbing a map and half your atlas progress needs to be redone... i hate my life sometimes
thats not normal is it?
What the actual fuck is that nebu
i intended to mean quant should affect it even though the other 2 don't
phys explode on kill smh
"iirc quant would affect it since its not a unique or currency" means it wouldn't be affected if it was a unique or currency
It is a currency
Currency and unique drops are normally affected by modifiers to quant
and then on league start day it will be on the other side of the map
You realize that nebu is like at minimum 2m
just get lucky
what isnt?
i had the cave spawn in the exact same place before
are you running heavy strike in std or leaegue?
he asked in the original screenshot if rarity / currency affect the amount, someone said no, i followed up trying to say that quant should affect it, even though those 2 don't
i suppose i could have phrased it better
League
i cannot believe you got sold that fast
even after we were discussing how it would be earlier

The perfect hybrid of clear and single target
are you twinking at all or?
true you barely played this league
gonna take this one to ubers and not burn out at T1s trust
wtf is this ive never seen that base
On one hand god i want a seven-league step on the other i want to enjoy the worst campaign of all time
It did above 10k dps without supports ill take anything
Stormbind permanently lowered my standards
what ascend
inquist
Inquisitor
I barely even PoBed it lol
can i see ur pob?
damn that goes hard
sage
wut
u can do that/
too many good affixes
This is as far as i got before deciding to do it
oh
im no free thinker
wait like
2 differentt elevate outcomes on the same mod
or something like different infleunuce same mod different elevation output
but identical t1
looks spiky, i'd rather not
so elder vs cruder
crusader
elder 15% mana transfiguration of mind vs crusader 18% mana
sans
shika
oh wow
i thouguht the transfiguration ofm ind was a standard thing
naw apparently not
nevermind the standard build has tornado shot enchant and a necropolis mod lol
secondary fun fact
incursion flat mana % mana mods only act as a blocker for flat mana
:D
lol
my bis helm might b some bullshit like this
not a single default mod in sight 
i need to test wellwater before i make any rares tho
bc es recharge rate is nicee
question
are u just testing in craft of exile
or planning a helm
not trying to be arrogant, im not a crafter
LOL
I mean you kind of test if it is viable to make in CoE
cost wise yeah?
ngl i think thats impossible
like 600k chaos to hit is NOT viable
wait nvm
i always wonder how people find the best option
you can just get double influenced from the start and recomb the incursion mod
it borderline is
then do some unlimited dominances
We haven't figured out exactly how strands work yet right?
I have a couple times now hit triple T1 prefixes, or T1 T1 T2, but suffixes just sucked
like there's a theory where weight of the higher tier can affect the odds of upgrading
I wanna say Im sitting at around like 1 in 40 chance to hit triple T2+ mods
that was slow
or having more mods that could upgrade will dilute your chances of upgrading the mods u acutally want
mods, the dumbass bot is being slow
Yeah that seems reasonable
Moreso Im finding it very interesting how the woke orb so heavily biases towards rarer mods
THERE'S NO HEEL ON THE BASE IRON BOOTS???
I cant fucking believe this
It almost feels like it works akin to tainted chrome where it ignores weights
ye it's aids af
if u have 500 locks u can do it
Id be willing to hazard that strand rolling treats every mod as equally likely perhaps buf then it also seems to bias to T1s
need minimum 20 to upgrade on unravel, unravelling respects mod weights
its 2 elevated, not 4
kinda hype flat this early actually
i tried to brain a indigon + khatals geyser heavy strike but it ain't working
arcane surge doesn't really benefit heavy strike
khatals for perma lavianga
oh is that it
dgaf about surge
damn but the coolest thing ab khatals is the arcane surge
rough
anyways i was trying pillar of the caged god as well but it doesnt work with alberons anyways
so its all gone down the drain
Meant how strands roll for stuff like chaos orb effects
Its very very strange whatever algorithm strands impose on rolling mods
i swear its functionally the same as foulborn currency
I hate scammers trying to add me to a friend list instead of just dming
It could be, where it biases based on ilvl of the mod?
doesn't perma laviangas contradict with indigon
as in you wouldn't be spending more mana
Thatd explain why influenced mods are so biased
@frigid wedge btw, look at my stupid luck xd
clarity haste
arcane cloak spends when u have lavis active
- haste again if 3 mod
hatred flat crit + vitality life on hit
gotta guess atleast 2 mods
vitality and discipline
30c
phys as extra fire anger and pen wrath
u just go for the worst uptime cloak ever
k
low on frags sadge
i win
lol
double mod omegalul
that aint terrible
it is
i win
this makes sense
id say ur fine on frags lookin at those synth ones
only synth xd
bought them at 4c/frag at some point
decided to get a fuckton
Hold on did you actually guess it?
(edited)
Ahhhh you got me!
gullible xd
no i edited it
the previous guess was
5 points for sage
how much is a rational doctrine
"vitality life on hitand mana as es"
wrong
the humble trade site:
im on phone
how much we betting on that
it was phys as extra anger and wrath pen
bro wtf is my luck today I won ONE out of ten recombinations with 47% success rate
trying to justify having 100 uber cortex
you dont need prices for that pfft
bossing is fun
RD is not the money maker
the profit is the friends we made along the way
fiiiiiine ig noones friendly enough to write
im aggro
its 7d lazy boi
call it
double anger mods
triple hatred
rational doctrine 7div
determ and purity of ice
dude
shika is really stealing all my fucking bits
its actually scary
like a skinwalker
first i play agos, so they play agos
then i do uber feared rotas
THEY do uber feared rotas
Damage to mana before life, precision crit multi
i don't play AGOS
explode mode guaranteed in 100 uber cortexes
I also farmed ubers like a month ago
sue them
becuase you're shika's idol
(it was actually 3 weeks)
who tf is that
2d btw
me
kfc man when he was younger
sakamoto
this the highest base ?
holy shit i was right
from sakamoto days
determ and purity of ice
sum anime
insane sightread
LMAO
my standards are so fucking low i feel like im sonic with this attack speed
give the man his prize
I have not stated that by the way
this is true
ya ok so u wanna be me so bad but like
see
a worse version of me
I am fine with that
the abyss chest
jewels
triple jewel abyss chest is 30d or so
its pretty bad
yea
but like theres always someone who will think its fun
if its so bad
why tf are lightless astrolabes so similar in price to fruitful
food for thought
harvest recipe
again
and yet
theres no way
is pricy
arent u better just… going blight heart with the jewel heart just guving u 30 fractured minion abyss jewels… idk
i forget
good question
btw
no idea
i love that his body is still toned and vascular regardless 
it really isn't lmao
ya
skill issue
you can't just type the meme out
denial
look shika
if the puppygirls couldnt forcefem me
you wont forceweeb me
sorry
just gonna let you down early
mood
I wonder how bad are double elevated spark gloves to make
ive wondered the same
u gotta have a fucking overlay
and a website
and a calculator
The negative mods are just, something else
immune to your damage type shit
^
Those ones are highlighted in yellow, just read smh
Immune to damage, avoid ailment, block, avoid damage
avoid damage does suck
Nah, it's just that there's so many mods it's ridiculous
I like expedition, it just becomes incredibly unfun when juiced I guess
you want to play big boom and cant because you'll probably brick on a mod. i was skipping so many i gave up on it really early this league
oh
you are complaining difficulty?
hmm
idk i just think making the explosive line sucks
cause you dont earn much back
not the chaos one 
thats your fault for playing chaos smh
+2
But it is in yellow
it is
im confusing it with "immune to curses" from my bane days
I think the thing that kills me is that the expedition strat says it is low difficulty
Lol??
how about a custom highlight aye
@frigid wedge
JUST FUCKING WIN
+300d
idk how many doms I used
like 10
what the fuck do I do now
Buy 3 magebluds
why
which kind
ele
yeah no
?
I only do ele
and have no refl immune
just equip sibyls + pantheon lol
you're phys
u skill issued yourself, rolling reflect
i forgor
another skill issue, memory
you are the idiot
good shout @karmic gust ty
i actually just realized
ive never really messed with my pantheon
no clue what id even want
maybe tukohama
could be worse
is chieftan bv the worst version? besides poison
i have a leveled bv but dont want to rush in and regret its already a lifestack rf
why would the best uber BV be the worst one?
khailby this isnt how u flirt
which is also great at mapping
occultist is the worst version second worst being ele
oh its the best version didnt know that
what
i thought ele was best 
well,
pf?
ele is ass
for minion pact?
yes
its chief then pf prob
ele just doesnt give you anything for the build over chieftain
youre confusing normal bv with minon pact i think its another thing
functions only because of shrines
we are all talking abotu minion pact pretty sure
i dislike bv icl
so best mapper/bosser is chieftan
you know what would be sick
if i could leech life from the damage my agos does
fun fact, u can
ok how
its called being necromancer
:D
cool guess il swap to bv 🙂
imagine the chaos if FFFF worked across all classes
vaal bv is annoying as shit ngl
heh
i really like it
i'd like to see it
roomba build
slow cast time and you can get interrupted out of the cast and cast nothing while still eating the souls
very annoying
i lowkey want to make a clear build where i can just
walk through 100% deli maps
or whatever
and make big money
not rf
not bv
im not a loser
its fun clear for sure the vaal
100% deli maps dont do much for making money
i have zero creativity so i will go with tailwind deadeye
what clear based strats make money even these days
its just for fun
i mean breach is fine
hello, what map do people scry to jungle valley im playing ssf dont really know what to do
wait what guide for chief bv i see a few bait ones already
depends on the budget
pass me the breach strat u wanna do it with
Me neither bro
me neither
and filter out diamond shrine
ill try it on my autobomber
nahh i want a vid im too dumb for poe ninja
haha okay
it looked like this
on a big deli mirage map
What are you playing ?
with scarabs
playing earthshatter
someone buy my double elevated spark gloves
no
haha fair enough
which ones
the typical breach 5
@hard cliff i just like slams in most games i played so i just stick to it
Slams are super reliable almost any way you do them
I am doing bleed slam that doesn't even make snese
but it's op af
sounds good
theres multiple versions of the breach strats my man
lmao easiest 2 mirrors of my life
i was just doing 2x lineage 2x unstable and mania or wisps depending on how bored i was and 5x diviners deli orb
sold the mamba build
on t16.5s
Boss fights are annoying cause you gotta self aggravate the bleed but mapping is super clean
I use sandstorm but I think most people like static strike
but it doesn't look cool
bladestorm*
wisps + instab x2 + bloodlines + risk
yea i mostly enjoy mapping
yea that is what i was doing
3?
no lol ingame
i was getting like 2 divs per map in stacked decks alone + raw div drops so 🤷♂️
damn LOL
people buy builds all the time
heheh, hat
ya idk
i wasnt
i wonder if i can sell my build for 3 mirrors
nah
i can never get myself to sell builds
flicker gods guide me
i usually like to keep my chars geared just so i can look at them in standard so i never sell builds or pieces even from older chars in league unless they were unfinished
u happy witht hese mods
same
how many mirrors have you amassed
uhh thats a little low
I delete all of my characters after the league is over
free map
ok maybe not the mjolner char this one I like a lot
this no good then
na u gotta get mirage and 110 + 40
in std? no clue, i dont sell stuff at league end so most of my std stuff is in legacy items :d
im not paying 500c for a map
and I like having a clean character screen
sell them at the very least
deleting is blasphemous
costs less than i thought
bro who is gonna buy my shitass characters 😭
you would be surprised at stuff people sell in tft
whatever
I am not gonna delete my current char that's for sure
fuck sake
ya
yeah
when tft shut down
one guy in another server was like
how am i gonna sell builds
i just realized
lol
poe doesnt have dragons
goes to show people really jsut buy builds
and i have not yet seen a build that's appropriately priced
convenience fee
think uber eats tax
well im never doing that again
yeah but just way too much LOL
khailby can i do this one
its not even convenience fee, ppl just lie so much abbout prices of rares
in those builds
and beast corrupt for an explicit
ytou wont make much tho
i havent even closed the deal but i unequipped all gear jewels etc , guy went offline when i invited him
fml
levels of ROI that no man can comprehend
if i ever sold my build id price these boots alone at like 200d
i wont make much when my map costs 650c before scarabs
lmao
ok
run that one then
xD
im saying u probably wont even recoup the cost of the map
if i ever sell builds, ill pobrbaly post a simulation of the average cost per gear
im not convinced breach does anyway
like i said
and if its too hard, just check trade listing
breach bad
lowkey i cant think of clear based profit strats this league despite how much praise theyget xdd
deli rush by kingpinuwu
its really fun
ya
?
build dies without shit to kill
let me try
Namharim_bornofdaiframe
jesus fuckin christ
if i die im sory
Anyone who could give me some ultimatum pointers?
👀
Should I be going all out on catalysts or catalyst to inscribed?
how much is cata scarb?
for mapping on these
xdd
So cata+inscribed?
hmm
Ofc
ya
i keep hearing that shit everywhere now
what about it
i wonder what the purpose of clear builds is
we just discussed clear isnt making money
so what does

whats wrong with breach?
like its a 1-2 raw div per map even when not burning bloodlines and shite
low budget is the way to go
rip palsteron gloves
wtf kind of mtx am i gonna put on a jewel
you know those timeless jewels
Kirac's Vault MTX that are now legacy
ya sure
?
jk
they aint selling no more
idk the song but i sent one of them memes to my gf yesterday
now i need another low effort good roi craft
they still haven't landed the perfect mage outfit for me
Seeker is probably it but it is legacy
i cant find any proper chief bv guides been searching for a while now
LMAO
i dont think you guys understand
ifg you take the wizard set from this pack
and remove the hat
you have a sekiro outfit
i refuse to turn to poe ninja and not use a detailed guide from yt 🙂
eh youre less likely to find full blown walkthroughs for true endgame builds
Where is the helm lol
I think my favorite mtx is vinderi's helmet from heist
which is weird because he doesnt wear the helmet
As they say, finders keepers
so uh, question for anyone who's tested celestial mathematics keystone
well then
do skill repeats inherit the added cold damage or not
(it's the keystone that breaks your ward to give you 25% of your ward as added cold dmg to next attack)
yes we know it is
im sure pob could tell you
i imagine its the same logic as exert
hm
thats unfortunate then lol
i was thinking of running it on zerker, and while it'd make a really funny way to get a metric fuckton of flat for slammers it's kinda hard to make it work as a non bosser
the vorana keystone is still batshit insane though
golem army
get 25k ward have 50k armour/evasion that can't be reduced by red altars or other funny stuff
haven't seen anyone with an aqua pfp in a long while ngl
and a very big number for nightgrip
i feel like nightgrip isnt worth it when you can play wardshatter and kind of use the ward as actual defence instead
albiet it is the very expensive setup lol
i mean yes that's the optimal thing to do
u can just use celestial math and force the break to restore the same way as shatter
Good music respect
ye
but i'm here to just get the world's biggest holy hammers
nightgrip specifically just feels meh with deleting your ward as a semi useable defence layer lol
I wanted to make a good holy hammers build but I'm broke
I don't think the build I'm working on for reference is like... good lmao
so...genuinely havent done one of these yet
WHAT
kek
it's 85% evasion, 50k armour equivalent, but only ~5k life and 56 spell block
with 5 end charges
that's still probably going to be very squishy.
otoh it's like 3.4aps and nearly 600 million dps with double hits.
the only actual mechanic is you run to the outer part of the arena when he says "give yourself to the darkness"
on an exert slammer
that aps and the aoe on holy hammers would still make it eat dense content for breakfast and cuz its all chaos damage it gets to ignore one of the big dumb stupid tank mods
couple challenge stuff
life as extra es my hated
he nuked every single golem instantly
sans do u need carries
to prevent exactly that lmao
i just havent bothered yet
I have no fucking clue how to craft squire weapons and I feel like learning it is going to make me very sad.
its just recombs
yea
ah
so first
actually
i wouldnt recomb
so first you find the 3 mods you want
1 elder and 2 shaper or 2 shaper and 1 elder
then what you want to do is get those mods on the same weapon bases
yeah this is kinda what I want to make but I think I have to start with suffixes and the 40% more attack damage is gonna be a really, really bad prefix
i probably am better off just dropping the idea of the explode mod entirely
one on the shaper / elderweapon
whichever you have less on
and youll alt that til you get it
then you beastlock that weapon
or be like that guy who got 4 mods with awakeners orb
and gather 8 more weapons of the same base
each with one of the mods you're missing
one of them will have 1 total shaper/elder mod
the next two, three, then four
if you settle on crafted pen instead of veiled its very craftable with explode
oh yeah crafted is fine
youll then use the woke orb on the lone base
it's like a 3% diff lmao
ye
and hover it over the lock
repeat for all 8 weapons
youll do this til you get all 3 prefixes/suffixes
explode feels like it might actually cause problems for holy hammers
naaah
because iirc if explode kills things it can't keep cascading
4 mod is less than a mirror 100% and 5 mod is maybe 1.5m if you get unlucky
its just 6 thats fucked
well yeah 4 mod is easy
you can just metamod craft
and reforge
xd
5 mod though
you have to recomb
and then you start bricking
i mean you just have to understand how to reuse those bases
just hit the 2p/2s + 1p/3s
yea it doesnt save u that much in the long run
i think the cheapest possible way to make this weapon would be doing like
? it does
is fubguns bv good
also skill issue
awakener orb prefixes>veiled orb chaos pen, then reforge crit and craft attack speed?
i got an offer i trade my mamba for all his gear jewels etc
if you enjoy playing a hh build yes but its very much just him dumping currency at it for fun
that'd get me 4 mods+crafted, the faster attacks link isnt really mandatory cuz it's still berserker
NACA
DONT ABBREVIATE HEADHUNTER
i bet you cannot even buy original sin on cosoles
NACAAAAAA
?
theres a few
why would i not abbreviate it
theres 0 on trade rn
am confuse
oh.
i dont think they rly can?
you 100% can
i mean there's been ways to use mkb on controller only games for years
like they wouldnt have click moving using emulated kb/m on console
if GGG does anything to ban them, idk
oh yeah, that's a good point
yeah but its different for shooters where you can bind the look button to mouse movement
since it's like two completely different UIs
yea
theyd have to play some scuffed psuedo wasd shit
and theyd still have controller auto aim
or othernon sense
ppl who want golems are just gonna play ele
nerf made it less popular as an occultist steal lol
Oh also fogs made going for primordial bond clusters less worth compared to 35 effect double cast speed life/es ones
they are :3
golems are relatively fine as long as u have 2 of each instead of 1
(tho i considered them bad last patch too fuck being golem reliant saccing a hat slot etc)
gull+shrine belt also actually devalued it
they are good I wouldn't honestly call them op rn
but i just dont like them
as a concept for buffs
trading builds is frustrating
i cant bother selling sht
You go like 23 golems or something with all heralds gg
Primordial bond is just so strong tbh needs a nerf
no i trust him im just complaining for no reason
yer but your saccing hat slot cluster affixes and gem slots for it
i MIGHT need new boots
and i think with gull shrine belt+fog clusters golems lost potential value minmaxing
it already got nerfed dud
Still strong af xd
its not that strong
Bro you stack 9 of them it's jover
its just fine
But they are still pretty good early
its actually bad for hit based stuff
yeah
Mostly for dots
is 2d
its global % dmg per golem
it was worse for my fross setup to run them lol since its so point tight and rly wanted 8% cast speef clusters
and still bad for hit based
9 of them plus 23 golems
yeah but deffo not as strong as last league sht was broken

hmm i should try forcing flame golem on elehit
9 primordial bonds is either 3 voices or 3 larges +6 megas all of which is alot of investment that can be beaten elsewhere
atleast at higher budgets
No?
Yes
yup that is alot of point investment you can make better use of elsewhere given good enough gear
iv got 6 coins of knowledge, what are some good gems to use them on ?
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/Nacasatú-2245/NacaWitchMirage like i did originally try setting them up on my fross setup as an example but 12p's gull etc beat it by quite a bit
tbf thats a fully ramped indigon worth of damage
You add heralds on it too
since again its just so much investment into the golems which are inconsistent
You just blink across the map everything explodez
i will say even on a herald build golems are one of the weaker parts and you tend to not want to go all in on primordial bonds now lol
a little bit better, but still worse since they use it with wand attacks that have 150% effect of spell dmg
lets be real, its cluster stacking, ggg is gonna shit on it
they hate cluster stacking
Probably
eh jus i think we can all agree that setup is awful good mapper
if it was rare clusters, i would agree
i dont think thats what folks mean by good build there tho 😛
since its megalo stacker i dont think so
Ya idk what they mean
It's a good mapper with Uber dot cap
Idk what else is good
ok stupid question what's the wardshatter way of keeping your ward up all the time, 4x regenerative runes and a shitton of flask charge gain?

My point is that you have better uses for said points/hat slot over investing into golems given enough budget
golems are just really good at lower to mid budget
if you dont have uber dot cap after a generic 2500% inc damage i would be surprised
plus chaos golem
Welp dunno it was my first time playing it this league and I was shocked by how good it was

cos it is good just not op/the best
Yuh
its just kinda boring to me buildwise

