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[tranquil sedge]

lmao

i am also entirely broke once more so i probably need to do harvest for a while i think

[final owl]

blarg harvest. it's too good and easy. and good.

[tranquil sedge]

look at my wealth and weep

but on the bright side

[final owl]

i wonder if i can get more duration IC in a 3 link so i can use CDR support

[tranquil sedge]

@split maple what shipments am i sending

[final owl]

nice stack of pre-money

[bleak quiver]

its a good idea, cdr support is way better already than inc duration

[tranquil sedge]

gonna do these then back to delve which is what i wanted to do originally

[final owl]

delve reminds me of don't open that trap door for some reason

that was a great show. Burk and boney should be down there somewhere.

[cobalt blade]

depends on endu charges consumed and what your using it for

[final owl]

best theme tune too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9dbAQJIu1o

[cobalt blade]

if your cwdting it for mapping sure - if your using it in valdos manually for tanking no

[bleak quiver]

oh yeah, valdo farmers do use ic...

[final owl]

i am too lazy and dumb for active skill use.

[cobalt blade]

having it last the extra seconds is marginally more valuable than cdr for uptime or tanking instability stacks

[final owl]

dang. arcane surge imbued frostblink is 25d

34 blue supports. i guess that'll do it

[bleak quiver]

brutality frostblink the goat

[cobalt blade]

embrace void manip

[final owl]

i'm gonna guess nice imbues on tempest shield are also $$..

[cobalt blade]

void manip was like 40c when i bought one earlier

[bleak quiver]

why would you imbue a reservation skill

[vernal ravine]

i'm suprised people aren't doing automation

[cobalt blade]

reflect

if im a chaos block based build and dont need reflect immune anywhere else

tempest shield now needs void manip

or brutality

[vernal ravine]

hextouch is nice

[final owl]

i don't use automation

[vernal ravine]

i use that on one build

[final owl]

just trying to figure out a way to freee up a slot for CDR for IC

probs have to imbue frostblink i guess

[bleak quiver]

damn you guys have some pretty free reservation budget huh

[vernal ravine]

pob?

[final owl]

me?

[cobalt blade]

+as i mentioned i plan on getting another enlighten 4/eclipse 4 to remove the only reservation point im currently taking lol

since needed to fit in aspect

[final owl]

https://pobb.in/4BVnSXh4LOXJ

[bleak quiver]

meanwhile, ive been login in for 2 weeks, deleting shit at the temple, refreshing live searched, and leaving

shit is dire here...

[compact bronze]

does inc rarity on my gear improve simulacrum rewards?

[cobalt blade]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Nacasatú-2245/mirage/character/NacaWitchMirage

[bleak quiver]

no

[final owl]

every time i try a handful of corrupts i deflate my interest in the game temporarily lately 😛

[cobalt blade]

no sim is loot tiles rarity doesnt affect loot tiles

[compact bronze]

is this to my question?

[bleak quiver]

yes

rarity does nothing to loot tiles

[compact bronze]

got it

what is a loot tile

[final owl]

anyway i guess if i imbue frostblink i can swap gems around and get IC in a 3 link

[cobalt blade]

flat rewards basically

[bleak quiver]

things like, delirium rewards or the little icons above legion guys

they are based on lists of fixed rewards

[compact bronze]

okayy

[bleak quiver]

while other shit like drops calculates the loot properly

[cobalt blade]

when your in a sim in the bottom left u see like currency icons gem icons etc

[compact bronze]

even the chance to drop voices?

[cobalt blade]

those are the loot tiles

voices is flat % drop chance from killing the bosses in sim

omni/kosis

[bleak quiver]

voices is from the bosses, also fixed chance

[compact bronze]

okayy

thankjs

got it

[bleak quiver]

you still might have other options tho

ive hit the brick wall

nothing above here besides double corrupting... hate builds with lots of uniques...

[halcyon flicker]

I love them except when said uniques have a random mod pool

[mighty meadow]

anyone playing fubby bv elementalist checkout my post on build help and try to troubleshoot for me? I cannot figure out why my bv damage is so bad

[cobalt blade]

bad ingame or bad in pob

[surreal mulch]

why are there so many shitlords selling 1 divine ultimatums for 1 divine

[final owl]

PoB needs to be configed properly to show minion pact BV damage properly

[surreal mulch]

and no I'm pretty sure it's not for tier vendoring

no wonder they don't sell for 24 days

[cobalt blade]

because people use them to inflate ring

since its funy

you dont make profit but you add 2 div to your pilfering every time

[surreal mulch]

what ring

OH

damn

[bleak quiver]

no one does that with 1d inscribeds

they do with 8

[surreal mulch]

considering ultimatum is closer to a crafting bench or bestiary it probably shouldn't count on the ring

[cobalt blade]

ppl do it with both depending on how many are on the market lol

but ye most do it with 8

[final owl]

artificially inflating your pilfer numbers. smh my head. do people have no shame

[bleak quiver]

leave my ring alone

[surreal mulch]

yeah no that's uh

wdym you have almost as many scours as divs

at what strictness do scours even go

[bleak quiver]

im on uber+ from day 3 forwards

[final owl]

[short prairie]

pretty cool jewel for my future es character

[final owl]

it could be argued that i pick up too much bubblegum >.>

[final owl]

at least i have been getting my steps in

[bleak quiver]

never got those, but they probably would be pretty low

[final owl]

I like trackers just for the vaguely interesting number factor

[ebon hatch]

they should introduce a horticrafting card sacrifice tracker

[final owl]

oh that would sell for sure

global competition for most degenerate gambler of the league

[bleak quiver]

a items poofed tracker would be fire too

[final owl]

true

[ebon hatch]

most degenerate? that would be me

[mighty meadow]

bad in game... i feel like i have everything for the build, but i do almost no damage

[ebon hatch]

yesterday was 10 div off from an upgrade, instead i lost 260 div

[final owl]

what specter are you using

[cobalt blade]

are your gems levelled

and do youj have unholy spectre

[final owl]

am looking at your pob now. you don't have specter configed

[mighty meadow]

only gem I dont have leveled up is companionship. I feel like that isn't the culprit for my almost no dmg though

also using the scorpion spectre

[final owl]

so, with unholy abberation you are apparently doing arouind 5m dps

which is indeed pretty low

[cobalt blade]

how the fuck

can you link pob

[final owl]

they did up there ^^

don't have charges configed or anything though

so it's kinda hard to see what the real number(s) are

https://pobb.in/PJPbPMktVrte

is it anyway

[cobalt blade]

ty i couldnt find it

was scrolling up

[final owl]

well, that is it with specter configed properly but maybe nothing else

do you have frenzy / power charges

[mighty meadow]

Sorry guys, should've setup pob better

[final owl]

your crit chance, at base on this config is 3.6%

but you have 468% crit multi?

[mighty meadow]

the crit multi is based on charlatin diamond shrine

no frenzzy or power charges i'm pretty sure

[cobalt blade]

u didnt take companion ship into account setting this up btw

pob doesnt calc for it

[final owl]

you need to add +60% minion life yeah

[sour umbra]

Praying that next league they give every mob innate 99% fire res.

[final owl]

you have a headhunter equipped in this pob

[cobalt blade]

your missing tattoos for herald effect

and in general alot of your dps actually comes from shrine buffs

like your crit is doing nothing until you get diamond shrine

[mighty meadow]

so is it just a matter of getting more minion life scaling and herald damage multiplier?

[cobalt blade]

it would go a long way to getting u enough dmg to kill rares to ramp shrines/hh ye

[final owl]

with 60% minion life and diamond shrine equipped (to simulate HH shrine) you are at about 25m dps

[cobalt blade]

oh also

[final owl]

which is.. ok. but not amazing

[cobalt blade]

your amulet isnt anointed

[mighty meadow]

true

[cobalt blade]

it just needs to kill trash mobs

its mostly ex plode build or atleast it should be

[mighty meadow]

yeah its just a breach clearing explode

ok well thanks anyways guys i appreciate it

[cobalt blade]

also u want runegraft of the warp

for better shrine buff uptime

and i assume your gonna spend 3 points on this after levelling

that alone is a massive dmg up lmao

[final owl]

it seems mostly minion health i guess. my minion health is about 4x that

[cobalt blade]

yea

[split maple]

Was lab generation algo changed this league

Like there was more good lab days than bad ones this league

[final owl]

rngesus bless?

maybe octavian got his hands on it and did everyone a solid

[mighty meadow]

good catch

[cobalt blade]

^^

[final owl]

80% minion life is worth pulling points from elsewhere probs

[cobalt blade]

100%

best stat for that build

[copper vale]

It’s not

Best stat is movement speed

[opal ingot]

It's not

Best stat is...

[final owl]

they're using FBoWB, i assume they can just spam that

[copper vale]

Us together😳

[cobalt blade]

^echoing accel wintry blast just nukes ur way thru the map on a proper explode build

[opal ingot]

I miss fbowb clear

One of these days I'll go back to hierophant

[final owl]

i made an ice nova heiro before the last significant heiro nerf, whenever that was. fun build

[opal ingot]

Who tf instantly bought my mb with skill effect + hatred lol

I thought it was a mid ass combination

[final owl]

well. it wasn't me. I'm still rockin an uncorrupted

not even sure what implicits would be useful

[short prairie]

what do i do next

F

[final owl]

needed the accuracy and chance to poison?

crit chance and multi doesn't really look.. bad. as such.

[short prairie]

no im making a flicker sword

[wheat sinew]

Bomba

Flicker shapelder sword ?

[ebon cloak]

Is there a better channel than here to ask some outer lore questions?

[wheat sinew]

Interesting choice

[wheat sinew]

Ruthless is good bte

[short prairie]

ruthless is really good for flicker

[wheat sinew]

Yuuup

Cuz flick flick DESTRUCTP BEAM

[short prairie]

if i go phys i wouldve gone brutality

[ebon hatch]

is it ssf?

[short prairie]

yes

[wheat sinew]

Just low key surprised you didn't go for the regular foil recomb

[ebon hatch]

ah then whatever… but if you could, go for movement skills cost no mana

it opens up alot of possibilities

[grave vine]

Solo Self Fuqing

[ebon cloak]

HC SSF Ruthless aka "Balls in a Bear Trap" mode

[wheat sinew]

Pref cannot be changed into a 1/3 to hit veil exLt

And use t1 asp

[opal ingot]

Uhh

Would hits can't be evaded be a useless mod

[wheat sinew]

Kind kf

[short prairie]

i alr have a regular foil recomb.

[opal ingot]

I was thinking cannot roll annul that 4% and carry on

[wheat sinew]

Ayyy

[ebon hatch]

you can then discard all accuracy from the gear, possibly a lot of skill points

so it’s very useful

[wheat sinew]

Cannot roll doesn't save from annuls last time I checked craft of exile

[short prairie]

no

[wheat sinew]

[short prairie]

i wouldn't mind crafting hits cant be evaded

i prefix lock reforged crit like 3 times

[wheat sinew]

But but the asp

[opal ingot]

The pen and cdmg are don't have attack mods. I'm sure he can safely annul the pen

Lemme check in Coe

[short prairie]

still no crit influence mods

[wheat sinew]

Yeah pls double check cuz last I checked and used annul to try and save my sword which had the same prefixes it hit the attack prefix xzd

[final owl]

waelp. i have 20 high pack size 16.5s. I guess i should be harvesting

[wheat sinew]

(traveling for 5 hours again so can't check on mobile sadge)

[thick goblet]

did u forget to recraft the meta mod

[ebon hatch]

btw anyone tried to farm legion this league? can it push 40 div/h ?

[wheat sinew]

Nope xD actually it might have been veil exalt orbs that didn't respect the metamod

[final owl]

well. cornucopia price getting a bit silly. what do people sub in instead

[opal ingot]

Yeah I think that happened

[thick goblet]

yeah they don't

[wheat sinew]

Gonna try and check again cuz I know I tried to do something with annuls as well

[ebon hatch]

i tried yesterday delirium, harvest without cornucopia, breach and it all feels awful, well harvest was good money but boring af

[short prairie]

bruh

[final owl]

harvest is always boring. i just mean investment vs return I guess

[short prairie]

why not both gem link crits

smh

[opal ingot]

and yeah annul works

[tranquil sedge]

u didnt believe

thats why

[wheat sinew]

Weird af it must have been veil ex

[opal ingot]

its definitely that

[ebon hatch]

if you have fast build, it’s preferable to not use cornucopia at all, as t4 harvest bosses eat alot of time BUT it’s a blast with t3 mobs

[wheat sinew]

That's hella weird

[restive plume]

Anyone know why dexterity stacker builds usually go fo venom gyre for their skill instead of something else?

[wheat sinew]

Why does it respect the pcbc and scbc but not the attack/caster lol

[final owl]

hmm thats fair I suppose. maybe i will do a run with no corn and see what the totals look like

[wheat sinew]

Ooh where dat from

[ebon hatch]

i made 39 div/39 mins yesterday running strand, rush to harvest, check for yellow, if no - immediately portal out

no boss

[opal ingot]

I'm gatekeeping it

[opal ingot]

Jk it's in wiki metamods

[final owl]

i am doing boss just to tick challenge boxes, but otherwise do same. though i have been doing any spicey blue / purple. probably a waste of time though..

[wheat sinew]

Ty

[short prairie]

alr have flicker glvoes crafted

[opal ingot]

Iirc it's like that for a bunch of crafting options too. Respects metamod lock but not cannot roll

[short prairie]

the sword is the hard part

[ebon hatch]

yeah i ignored all except yellow

[wheat sinew]

no max frenzy? Pretty good tho

[tranquil sedge]

dam senses

[tranquil sedge]

its there wdym

[wheat sinew]

The elevated

[final owl]

what is strand dupe chance like. I use Atoll currently

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[short prairie]

im reliquarian

[wheat sinew]

chance to again to max frenzies

Ooh

[short prairie]

dont need elevate

[ebon hatch]

50/50

had good runs

did 20 maps

[final owl]

hokay. i feel like atoll is better than 50/50. more like 80/20

[wheat sinew]

go on soldier

[ebon hatch]

hmm can look into that

[opal ingot]

Atoll is awesome yeah

Bog can be too

Illegal mirage tech

[final owl]

i tried JV due to seeing someone else reccomend it, was way worse than atoll

atoll harvest + mirage often spawn right near entrance too

[opal ingot]

That's why when I see people recommend jv with mirage I know their ass didn't test maps

[ebon hatch]

ag also blue altars obviously

[final owl]

yeah JV was not consistant. i didn't really expect it to be but wanted to actually test

[opal ingot]

It's always the 2k viewers cc who make the most woke strats

[ebon hatch]

i felt like i came up with this “yellow only rush” strat yesterday when i saw 2000 yellow per div

i immediately knew what to do

[final owl]

it's back up around 2800 now

[ebon hatch]

it feels amazing to know you skip ALL MONSTERS except ones that actually give you good money

don’t waste time, just lock on and blast

[tranquil sedge]

that one can't run astrolabes then ig?

since ur not clearing harvests fully

[ebon hatch]

idk how harvest astro works tbh

i cba testing

[tranquil sedge]

i just saw prices of blue and purple

[opal ingot]

U need to full clear on the non mirage or else it won't upgrade

[tranquil sedge]

these are in the gutter dam

19k to 1 div purple

13k blue

[opal ingot]

It's like

6 or 7 plots to beat a single yellow

No pun intended

[ebon hatch]

yikes

good luck

[tranquil sedge]

maybe i should do what he's doing

and try just yellow rushing

[opal ingot]

Yeah

[ebon hatch]

i highly recommend

it felt better than breach

1000 times

[last hinge]

yellow rush with cr?

[tranquil sedge]

anything will feel better than breach to me

[opal ingot]

Yeah but what about the jackpot mist drop

[tranquil sedge]

i assume this isn't crop rota

[last hinge]

breach is just run around map until everything has died atleast 4 times

[tranquil sedge]

who needs jackpots when i got sage

'sage i need 2 mirrors thank u'

[ebon hatch]

i lost 260 div gambling yesterday but i can make it back in no time with good strat

[opal ingot]

I got loanshark levels of loaning

Srev only borrowed 100 divs and he had to pay back 600

[ebon hatch]

but i realized i have a very good build, i can try juiced legion instead

[final owl]

breach is fun for regular tinks but not convinced it's particularly good consistant currency vs harvest

[ebon hatch]

breach is a gamba

[final owl]

at maximum juice levels it is i spose

cos you're competing with fubgooners for scarabs and labes

[opal ingot]

Thank fuck fubgun isn't playing anymore

If he suggested harvest I would lose my mind

[final owl]

and yet his strats live on 😛

[opal ingot]

Exactly

[tranquil sedge]

fubgun wont suggest that, ever

there's no tinks in harvest

[opal ingot]

Just one word and his gooners will irreparably damage that side of the economy for the rest of the league

[tranquil sedge]

nah

they'll damage it for one day

then profit/hr will tank 50%

they'll leave

it'll recover

[final owl]

it's true, it requires mildly delayed gratification so is probably a no-go

[opal ingot]

But ever since fubgun announced the awakening scarab last league, the prices never recovered from the day he suggested woke crop rota 🥹

[tranquil sedge]

@ebon hatch ur just rushing the harvest, rushing mirage harvest, and yeeting out? not crop rota right?

[tranquil sedge]

meh woke scarab was just in a weird place

[opal ingot]

Or maybe it's just the natural demand of awakening late league

[tranquil sedge]

i never took that one seriously at all

too volatile

[final owl]

cheap breach isn't so much a gamble, but it gets old after a while. and i don't think the div/hour is anywhere near as good as harvest

[opal ingot]

Fair it was only one example I saw the prices from start to finish

[short prairie]

out of divs

and i dont have metamod beast

current sword is bad

[tranquil sedge]

@opal ingot, this right?

[ebon cloak]

Does item level affect lavish wombgifts?

[opal ingot]

I uhh.. I'm not sure if that's what he meant too

I can't let go of the astrolabe enchants

[ebon hatch]

ahh also about harvest without cornucopia and mirage… you generally don’t care if it’s hitting double harvest per map since you zooming and portal out fast as fuck, using cheap scarab and 4 quant frags… you only care if there’s barya in mirage, that’s it

[tranquil sedge]

i see

[short prairie]

What did you see srev

[tranquil sedge]

what i saw

[short prairie]

Did you see my future of crafting that 11 link sword?

[tranquil sedge]

yes

i saw that you can make it if you believe

and failure to make it represents failing to believe

[short prairie]

It’s a side project I’m prob not gonna be able to make it 11 links but the journey would be fun

But I still believe

By Mariah Carey

[frigid wedge]

sup

[tulip rain]

Why dont people bring contagion to 5way? Aoe too small, or damage too low, or both?

[rose quail]

Both

[halcyon flicker]

started looking into influences. is there any way to remove them from a base item?

[opal ingot]

No

Influence is like

A bad memory of your ex

[tacit crow]

yo

[halcyon flicker]

I guess a lot of crafts start out without influence and then add an influenced mod later, and if it doesnt hit its just a full on brick?

[opal ingot]

It never goes away

[wheat sinew]

Wasn't there some tech depending on the base that would remove it

Like vendor recipe

That didn't respect the base influence

[halcyon flicker]

not really worth it anyway bases are so cheap

in SSF its a diff story

[opal ingot]

I dunno if 5:1 works like that

I should check

[halcyon flicker]

I see, so you cannot use this with fractured bases. That explains a lot

I'm gonna try making a quiver later. Would be a cool first equipment craft

[wheat sinew]

Yeah 5 to 1 does it

Checked the wiki for vendor recipes

[opal ingot]

Nice

[halcyon flicker]

Need double dot, movement speed, bow damage and hopefully some life

[rose quail]

Not necessarily. There are options how to reroll the mods by keeping ones you want, recombinating in case if it's too expensive and so on

[wheat sinew]

That reminds me tonight I need to hit fr fr

[final owl]

aw. server deadge in middle of harvest and now instance goneski.

[dusk rune]

there are 14 characters with doryanis prototype + invert the rules gem on ninja 😂

300 iq

[final owl]

build goals : make content challenging

[dusk rune]

they know something we do not

[frigid wedge]

i gotta sort smth out with either my regex or my build bc the most difficult content that ive run so far is fuckin harvest

being 100% reliant on explode and recovery on kill is fine till the mechanic leaves dots and makes u wait for things to spawn in such a way that u cant 1 tap with a white mob

[mental nymph]

Hi chat

[frigid wedge]

hi

[final owl]

sounds like "mods that technically don't brick my build but i shouldn't play anyway" to me

[frigid wedge]

yeah, its called recovery rate

recovery rate isnt a brick mod if I'm juicing the actual map

[final owl]

ah yeah. i mean. i lean on regen pretty hard. recovery rate is in same category as cannot regen for me. do not want

[frigid wedge]

i ran a map with reduced flask gen and recovery rate and discovered that although neither bricks me normally, together i just sit with 10 life and full es

xD

[rose quail]

I just regex those away anyway Now it doesn't matter before I was regexing out less block. It didn't really kill me if map is juiced but better not

[zealous flax]

@frigid wedge pre good right?

[frigid wedge]

ive got life regen off stone golem, thing is i cant fuckin figure out a skill that works better than reap rn in my setup since they shit on pbod

[final owl]

i mean technically i can do less recov fine if i don't use RF or approaching flames

but i don't wanna.

[rose quail]

I'm on RF and I just filter it out. Why bother.

I just separate those maps and either give to mappers or just scour them later for rush or reroll

[frigid wedge]

its really starting to piss me off, bv is only worth socketing if i specifically use the vaal bc it has smaller radius than hive and wintry, so theres no bonus to my clear

hydrosphere is zdps

reap costs 300 life

[zealous flax]

Skill issue?

[frigid wedge]

ek is zdps and way too much mana

pbod is so much worse now that its not worth using

i genuinely dont know what phys spell to use

[zealous flax]

Pbrand

[final owl]

is exsang off the list for same reason as reap. are you self casting

[frigid wedge]

thet halved the hitrate on dissipation and hitting max energy was already a problem before, i dont scale duration, normal pbrand has similar issue with energy capping

[frigid wedge]

exsang is off the table for the same reason as blade vortex actually

it doesnt have the range

[split maple]

Glacial cascade?

[frigid wedge]

hive kills before exsang can even target

[final owl]

oic

do you even need an active skill for clear then

[frigid wedge]

ive considered it, it was aight last league, iirc was annoying with mana

[frigid wedge]

on the final setup last league hive had 2m dps, my issue is a single target skill, im having issues in HARVEST

[final owl]

oh dang

[split maple]

i am just scrolling for shit i recognize https://poegems.com/?i=eyJ5YSI6eyJ0YWdzIjpbIlBoeXNpY2FsIiwiU3BlbGwiXX0sImZ0cyI6W119

[frigid wedge]

granted if u just, had maps that didnt literally ALL have reduced recovery rate im sure id be fine

xD

[final owl]

that kinda sounds like the easiest fix maybe? 😛

[mental nymph]

Yea you just reroll recovery rate

[split maple]

hmm purifying flame

[final owl]

i would love to rock a can ignore all mods build one day. dare to dream

[mental nymph]

I also used to avoid eater less recovery till I picked life and mana on block node

[frigid wedge]

i asked chris to grab me some yesterday because it's not a brick running any other strat, discovered p fast my recovery is less reliable in harvest than on ubers

[mental nymph]

Main issue now is phys max hit and overcapping res

[split maple]

wave of conviction 🤔

[frigid wedge]

running breach im only bricked to reflect, just regex out some annoying stuff

[mental nymph]

Recovery on life I assume ?

[frigid wedge]

hm?

[spiral gull]

was that guaranted 5 link in campaign thing ever found or was that misinfo

[final owl]

misinfo

[last hinge]

scrying maps has got to be the most annoying part of mapping

[spiral gull]

eh

[final owl]

it's just fairly common to encounter 5 link option during campaign

[last hinge]

used to be a guaranteed 5 link last league with twilight strand act 6

[final owl]

but no garauntee

[frigid wedge]

harvest doesnt generate things to kill easily, nor is it good for my cinderswallow, normally my build uses it for my life recovery

[wheat sinew]

Conc Path of Endurance: yepge

For breaches mhmm

Cannjust sit still and hold right click

No moving and entire hive dies

[mental nymph]

Normally your biggest headache is harvest bosses

[final owl]

the only annoying thing about harvest bosses is when they refuse to phase properly

[frigid wedge]

ironically, not rlly, i can use my mark for the bosses and actually have recovery

[split maple]

eri did you try wave of conviction, looks allrite numerically for your usecase

[frigid wedge]

my issue is when i have no low tier mobs to kill

[split maple]

just idk what sorta aoe it gets in setup

[mental nymph]

Unless astrolabe is empowering them too much

[ebon hatch]

it’s been 10 thousand years asking GGG to fix it

[frigid wedge]

very little bc u gotta balance ur cast speed to it

[rose quail]

What's the build?

[mental nymph]

If you pick eater nodes throughout maps then go for harvest

Then yeah they'll be Abit tough

Which you shouldn't

[final owl]

harvest would be too good if it wasn't this annoying. probably. or something.

[frigid wedge]

my autobomber, it doesnt work well in harvests bc the white mobs are dead before i can use them to pop the rares

[rose quail]

Do you have PoB?

[frigid wedge]

the second i kill 1 mob in a wave of it im chilling

[split maple]

yea gonna say the proper answer to your issues is just dont do harvest then

[frigid wedge]

but its so good rn

xD

[rose quail]

That's cope out

[final owl]

omg just phase namharim you turkey

[ebon hatch]

just balancing issues… make harvest bosses engaging, not just afk dummy that eats 100 mil dps for straight minute only cuz it’s bugged

[frigid wedge]

ill farm my own 8 mods today maybe so im not paying 40c for pack size and see if its fine when regexed properly

[final owl]

needs a rework really, probably their excuse for not "fixing" it in the current version. cos i agree. it's boring.

[wheat sinew]

@split maple how is Alva jail going :3

Did ya hit fire gloves

[rose quail]

I mean I'm fine with it being boring. Just don't bug out ffs

[split maple]

im enjoying now deli & beyond jail

[wheat sinew]

Oooh whatchu farming

Volitle?

[split maple]

like a stash tab of them, in recomb fodder now

[wheat sinew]

Sheesh

[frigid wedge]

if u freeze syndicate members in safehouses at the right time u gotta wait like 10 minutes to actually click the leader

[split maple]

dude you were online when i hit that t9 life gazilion times

that was them gloves 😄

[wheat sinew]

Ooooooh rit rit

[split maple]

yea and its kinda nice for currency & scarbies yet so i dont feel like i am wasting time on poofing wondertraps

[final owl]

does anyone use even perfectly rolled black sun crest anymore

[split maple]

doing that tuna setup with ambush x deli bosses x beyond bosses

[wheat sinew]

With deli as well?

That doesn't benefit the strongboxes tho

I guess for the individual rewards heh

[split maple]

its just there for fogs

[wheat sinew]

Oh

[frigid wedge]

was always and will always be an Omni item

[wheat sinew]

I need like 8 fogs or 1 if it just hits

[split maple]

basically do deli for fogs, beyond for vvaals, boxes just for some extra scarbs

[wheat sinew]

I'll do that then xD

[wheat sinew]

Boxes for a little bit of everything let's be real

[split maple]

i get like 3-4 per deli astrolabe? smh like that on avg

[wheat sinew]

??????

That's a fuck ton xD

[split maple]

yea was suprised

[wheat sinew]

Fk, I regret giving up all my deli astrolabes

[split maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFSUpI8IdA&t=211s

this setup ^

[split maple]

i am just harvest swaping abyss ones

[ebon hatch]

my deadyey uses it… with the lab enchant… on standard

[frigid wedge]

fair

[split maple]

will need to go back to alva jail at some point tho, just to get my tempered flesh upgraded to transcendent one

didnt drop the bloody vial yet

[frigid wedge]

ugh i gotts finish shikas boots

[wheat sinew]

Oh so the regular setup but instead of 4 special scarabs you use 3x regular + beyond/deli bosses

[final owl]

just checking that i'm not crazy for still picking them up and ID'ing them i guess

[split maple]

pretty much, just spec in relevant deli nodes and force beyond with atlas

coz astro forces deli anyways

[wheat sinew]

Yuup

Fair enud

[ebon hatch]

idk what happened to omniscient tho, it was multiple div items few leagues back, now it’s 1c unique and nobody uses it

but it wasn’t changed at all

[final owl]

damn. neither staff nor belt. what a cheap ridan

[wheat sinew]

It got changed

But it's still pretty good, just usually other ammies are preferred

[ebon hatch]

how?

[last hinge]

I'm going to try the defiled cathedral div farm on sepulch

[wheat sinew]

Less pen and scaling

[ebon hatch]

it was 1% per 15

[last hinge]

running full mirage + beyond bosses on a full mirage map might be funny to see the results

[wheat sinew]

The Crystallised Omniscience Unique Amulet now grants +1% to All Elemental Resistances per 15 Omniscience (previously 10 Omniscience) and "Penetrate 1% Elemental Resistances per 15 Omniscience" (previously 10 Omniscience). This change affects existing items.

It wasnt

[ebon hatch]

or it was even better? i don’t remember

ahh

[wheat sinew]

But yeah just a tiny nerf overall

But people don't want to craft stacker rings when simplex exists

Type shi

XD

[split maple]

5/6 jewels left to do, 3 clusters, gull, unnatural, accel belt (praise tyson), spark gloves, 3 helicals, jewel vial and done

soon^tm

[wheat sinew]

Oh right jail time for me soon

[short prairie]

What are you even building esm

[wheat sinew]

Gotta get 2 more helicals

[frigid wedge]

why the void boot

[split maple]

spark

[short prairie]

[split maple]

getting messed by enchants :/

[final owl]

spark gloves on a spark build. the world has gone mad

[short prairie]

8 link spark gloves?

[split maple]

just for pierce, cba to make influ boots

[wheat sinew]

Any exp bases ?

[split maple]

its not even that much worse, like 5% worse than int + %str + pierce boots

[opal ingot]

uh oh

[split maple]

yea mostly trinkets and currency and shite, maybe a few exp base ones

[wheat sinew]

Hey even a few help boost the odds

So happy days

[wheat sinew]

Want me to get ya more nadirs

[frigid wedge]

:/

[wheat sinew]

To corrupt them ?

[split maple]

i am keeping heist speced on all trees, gonna be sooner or later

[split maple]

yo if you dont mind

[wheat sinew]

Idm I got that zoomer str stacker remember

Basically immortal just need to get the stave to get pen

That's straight up 40% of my dps

LOL

[frigid wedge]

real

dude i run a no exposure map and suddenly im zdps

i forget i even have it bc everything on screen always has it

[wheat sinew]

I might start farming challenges soon

Am 20/40 and all challenges have like 1 or 2 things to do remaining

[frigid wedge]

yeah i havent bothered w them yet

might make this vls and then work on em

[short prairie]

Join me

Flicker

[frigid wedge]

ive done flicker

not much has changed

i dont like the way it targets

[short prairie]

12 links?

[frigid wedge]

its kinda ass for actually going fast unless ur fully juicing ur density

imo

[split maple]

at some point i will go do that regal orb recipe

surely

[frigid wedge]

i just feel like it doesnt actually go anywhere

[wheat sinew]

Broooo I accidentally finished the t1 rare challenge

[last hinge]

I'm too lazy to do the rare t1 map

[wheat sinew]

I was madge

😔😔😔

[short prairie]

Are you playing the wrong maps

Have you done strand before with flicker?

[tacit crow]

walking to work after 12 hours of crafting yerrday

my hand hurts

[zealous flax]

https://tenor.com/view/jaiden-animations-jaiden-happy-happy-dance-dance-gif-9212878915375225434

[wheat sinew]

Flicker on beach

Mmmmmmmm

Pure Bliss

[opal ingot]

does anyone want this

ill vendor it in 5 minutes

can't be assed to find a base

[frigid wedge]

my current build doesnt even need mobs on the screen to kill them, i click wintry blast till I'm at boss and the map is clear when i do strand, its just more efficient

[opal ingot]

abyssal dense sanctified

[short prairie]

Have you done toxic sewers before in flicker

[frigid wedge]

yes senses

my flicker char felt better when i put in frost blades

[short prairie]

….

[frigid wedge]

if im gonna teleport multiple times a second i would like control

flicker is very loose in terms of that

[ebon hatch]

did any of you flickers use herald of ice? it looks awesome but more importantly it clears awesome

[frigid wedge]

yes

[ebon hatch]

if you haven’t, you are missing out

[split maple]

scornful herald + hoi on flicker mmm

[short prairie]

All ele flicker builds use hoi

[frigid wedge]

i need you to understand if im gonna warp that many times i want to choose where im going

hence: i prefer lwarp tshot or explode with wintry blast etc

[ebon hatch]

is warp ts still working?

[short prairie]

It prioritizes where your mouse is pointing to

[frigid wedge]

ish

i was working on it earlier in league

might go back to it now that i can make currency etc

but i got other stuff to build first

my need for high clear high speed has been satisfied by my elementalist

[short prairie]

Oh god if you really want to talk about melee clearing mobs from afar

[frigid wedge]

rvob

[short prairie]

The fbok build in 3.25

[frigid wedge]

no no

if we are talking about high clear on frost blades

we use fury valve on the normal

u clear like 3 screens

[short prairie]

The frost blades can split?

[frigid wedge]

its split

not fork

[ebon hatch]

wait let me get home and check how my good old barrage deadeye (nerfed multiple times ever since crucible) clears t16

actually i wonder if bow builds like this can be good today

[frigid wedge]

like what

[ebon hatch]

barrage of volley fire or similar

[short prairie]

I always thought they don’t interact with the proj mechanics like pierce fork split return chain

As they are technically melee attacks

[frigid wedge]

it produces projectiles after the melee

[short prairie]

I know

[frigid wedge]

katabasis doesn't

[short prairie]

Can they return?

No

Can they chain? No

[split maple]

they can return

When an enemy is hit by this skill's melee strike, multiple projectiles fly out from behind the enemy. Unlike Lightning Strike, if the initial attack does not hit an enemy, then no projectiles are released. Enemies are not hit by outgoing projectiles created from them, but can be hit once per set after projectiles return (with enough projectile speed).

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Frost_Blades

[frigid wedge]

yes they can

it can literally do every projectile behaviour

the issue is the proj has to hit a mob after the melee does

[opal ingot]

rip

the days of hinekoring are over

[short prairie]

Hydrosphere it is

Sync aspd with hydrosphere

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[steel light]

one rare mob dropped 94 orb of alt

[frigid wedge]

1 aps time

[ebon hatch]

that’s more than my average fully juiced breach

[split maple]

Cant you get 2 hydros

[frigid wedge]

esm has awoken

[short prairie]

There you go

[split maple]

So even 2 aps

[opal ingot]

bless the hands that farm ritual

[split maple]

Yo this league I legit don't have alt issue

[short prairie]

Wiki says you even need proj speed

Otherwise blades just dissipate

[split maple]

Do whatever juiced for 1h, get 500 alts, don't hit % phys, repeat

[frigid wedge]

yes most proj skills do that

[ornate patrol]

Holy green fest

[short prairie]

Not ls

[frigid wedge]

unfortunately

[short prairie]

Well ls doesn’t need investment on proj speed

[ornate patrol]

Why senses not green D:

[frigid wedge]

ls still does, it just has a larger time it can exist

[short prairie]

Still returns

[opal ingot]

buying all these blue and purple juice

is just so beautiful

[short prairie]

Cuz I don’t help in the actual help channels

[frigid wedge]

all the proj skills exist for a time, just only some of them last long enough to return fully without speed

[short prairie]

All I do is craft in my hideout

[frigid wedge]

imma be so real i only use 2 of them

[serene gate]

I see that a lot of people running blight-ravaged maps run triple teal to speed it up, but if I just want to AFK doing blight ravaged maps and not care about shorter map times and instead more about value/map, what's a good combination of oils to use?

[stuck brook]

i'm like 90% only in the new player one

[frigid wedge]

i could never

[short prairie]

Frost blades as an example, return is pretty meaningless cuz you need a lot of proj speed

[frigid wedge]

i meant the help channels

aldo

we have accel this league

[halcyon flicker]

Return is probably really good on frostbolt

[frigid wedge]

makes proj speed p trivial

also vengeant cascade

helps a lot

u get a shit ton of proj speed for returns

[short prairie]

No such thing in ssf

All I get is massive belts and greater shock/freeze

[opal ingot]

lmao

i found the guy who tried to void poeguy

[frigid wedge]

fixes proj speed issue for return really well for most skills that need it

iirc scourge arrow requires 55% inc to return

xD

[short prairie]

[opal ingot]

i cant believe thats an icon

[short prairie]

What about the icon

[frigid wedge]

he clutchin his shi

[short prairie]

Wat

[frigid wedge]

dw

[short prairie]

I see a hand coming out of a bucket

[frigid wedge]

its a returning oil being caught

oil projectile moment

[short prairie]

So hinting there will be a skill where we shoot oils out and then return?

[opal ingot]

they put actual oils in the notable

[frigid wedge]

nu

[short prairie]

Depending on oil color you get different stats?

[frigid wedge]

this node has literally existed since crucible

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

it used to just be...

free return

No longer provides 15% increased Projectile Speed, "Attack Projectiles Return to you", or "Returning Projectiles Pierce all Targets." Instead, it now provides "Returning Projectiles have 150% increased Speed."

[short prairie]

Comon ggg why nerf everything

[frigid wedge]

this node was quite possibly the biggest passive point nerf ive ever seen

forget random caps that make shit unusable, this doesn't even serve its original purpose anymore

got completely shit on

[short prairie]

The biggest skill gem nerf was fbok

[bold kelp]

its not unusable though

Its a useful annoint on skills that require projectile speed breakpoints to return

Like frostblades

People just choose to not play said skills often

I think SA also needs proj speed to return

[frigid wedge]

it really wasnt

[cosmic raptor]

🤔

[frigid wedge]

ye but it went from being a source of return to just proj speed, the actual purpose of its use got removed

[tired niche]

tbh it also got the biggest buff with the return changes

[frigid wedge]

mm

indirectly tho

[opal ingot]

am i the only one peeved that opening map tab defaults to the special ones

[frigid wedge]

icl i just dislike the fact that u either have so little dmg with returning projectiles that it feels like a waste to use or have random directions and there is no alternative

[short prairie]

Since I started playing this game

[opal ingot]

what do you think chat. like and subscribe if you agree

[frigid wedge]

splitting steel, hexblast, pbod

all saw bigger nerfs than kata

more recently too

[short prairie]

Pbod nerf that bad?

Esm literally got like 400m in ssf

[frigid wedge]

pbod nerf halved its cast speed to the point that if ur not full invested into dura and cast speed hitting max energy wont happen

[frigid wedge]

this league?

they HALVED the cast speed on a skill that has to ramp by hitting relative to ur cast speed

this league

[short prairie]

Fbok had its damage effectiveness cut in half

Even worse

[frigid wedge]

Now activates every 1 second while Attached (previously 0.75), and now has Pulses deal 20% more Damage with Hits and Ailments per Energy after the first (previously 30%). Quality now provides Deals +0-15% more Damage with Hits against Branded Enemy (previously +0-10%).

[frigid wedge]

my actual dps using pbod halved

[short prairie]

So esm would have went from 400m dps to 200m

[frigid wedge]

a 20 qual pbod went from 40% dmg per energy, to 35%, hit rate went fron 1.3 to 1

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

depends if he scaled duration

[short prairie]

That’s not the point

The point is this skill did way too much damage

[frigid wedge]

so reduce the de

dont shit on the qol

i hate ggg for just removing the qol of skills instead of actually balancing the numbers

[short prairie]

Fbok on the other hand… didn’t even do that much damage, it’s mainly just clear

[frigid wedge]

fbok was doing giant exiles for 100d while multi mirror builds were struggling

[short prairie]

You mean ls?

[frigid wedge]

no i mean fbok

[short prairie]

If you said ls I would’ve believed

[frigid wedge]

i was literally in a call with someone doing it

[short prairie]

With 100d budget

Trickster

[frigid wedge]

multiple diff ppl

i love that u specifically decided to pay attention to only me saying pbod

[forest flower]

woo i'm done

[fickle nova]

So, I got a Mageblood from Seer. Once I am done doing unspeakable things to him to repay this gift, I could really use some guidance on what might be a good build to reroll into!
I've never had a Mageblood before lol

I'm SSF, but I play a ton so I have a decent budget, relatively speaking.

If anyone has input, plz add me because I am awful at following chat here lol

[frigid wedge]

and not the other 2 listed skills that became mechanically useless for what they were used for

[short prairie]

Cuz hexblast did too much damage on a budget too?

[frigid wedge]

so did kata

[split maple]

on 0hp version of build in mercs so 2 free auras

like heralder setup in keepers hit for me 30mil on maping setup and 90mil with regear for bossing

[frigid wedge]

and hexblast doing too much dmg didnt require them making it unusable

it required then changing the flat chaos a bit

[steel light]

decide for yourself, there's no build for megablood, just megablood easily being used for most build

[frigid wedge]

it did not need to be hit with a cooldown

[fickle nova]

Oh this is nifty. Thank you!

[split maple]

thats badly outdated isnt it

[fickle nova]

Fuk

Is it?

[steel light]

might be, i only blanked out the legacy mods

[frigid wedge]

and splitting steel, the skill that was only particularly viable for damage at all with returns didnt need to have cannot return added just because ee trickster took too long to balance

:P

[wheat sinew]

Mega blud

[split maple]

ruby, topaz, saphire dont give less dmg taken since 3.24

its max res now

[fickle nova]

Well, I can probably find a updated one. I didn't even think to look for that, so just knowing it exists is still helpful!

[frigid wedge]

craft of exile and poedb will list all util flask mods

just multiply them by 1.95

[wheat sinew]

Basically do ya want infinite tank -> triple res flasks

[undone gazelle]

wiki has the 95% inc eff numbers
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Mageblood

[short prairie]

it was too good for an act 1 skill

[opal ingot]

woudl've been niced if they listed out onslaught inc effect values

[split maple]

if you want infinite zoom -> quicksilver and silver

want to solve crit -> diamond

other options are more circumstantial

[wheat sinew]

Yuuuup

[opal ingot]

so beautiful

[frigid wedge]

ok, i still think katabasis deserved the nerf, what didnt need to be included in the same nerf was normal frost blades

[steel light]

yea the elemental value is only up to 78% and +9 max res

[split maple]

nothing only bout 9 max res 😄 but yea

[steel light]

looks like all tier 2 to me 🫣

[obsidian pollen]

Silver flask on a mageblood? LoL

[opal ingot]

it increased onslaught effect lil gup

[frigid wedge]

flask effect = onslaught effect

[wheat sinew]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pl78865/character/sokratis12GR-6608/GSFSoFoStacking?i=23 only the best type of res xD

[split maple]

what you dont like 39% attack ,cast, movement speed

[wheat sinew]

I still need to fix chaos res somehow but that's a problem for another day

[frigid wedge]

where res

[wheat sinew]

And you can even get Ms suffix for even more speeed

[opal ingot]

im so stupid

[split maple]

you planning to retire your bonker or play both?

[opal ingot]

i took 50% inc exp instead of pack size

[steel light]

atk and cast does nothing for cws

[wheat sinew]

Both

[short prairie]

Frostblades had blades

[frigid wedge]

its a second quicksilver

[wheat sinew]

Bonker is perfectly good mapper

And we'll all gear is not changeable xD

[steel light]

it's like 0.5 quicksilver

[frigid wedge]

second quicksilver if the second one was a non mb flask

:D

[steel light]

105% for quicksilver

[short prairie]

.95 quicksilver

[split maple]

idk why use magebloode on cws this league ngl

[split maple]

like massive belt is a thing

[wheat sinew]

Ultimate giga speed

[steel light]

max fire resist frees up too many nodes and jewels

[short prairie]

Stun recovery?

[spice pecan]

Imagine if they made the aoe on katabasis scalable so it didn't feel like shit to play in the intended way

[split maple]

yea but massive is 40% incr life before gull

[steel light]

like ruby flask freed up 8 nodes and 2 jewels for me

[frigid wedge]

trueeee

[split maple]

on a build where your main issue is lil max hit

[steel light]

these are way too good already, scream can't cover res, movement and armor at same time, even trying to cover 2 costs too much

[short prairie]

Pblood progen

[steel light]

also only reason i'm playing poe1 is for megablood

[short prairie]

How’s that low max hit

[split maple]

you arent scaling armour on cws anyways tho, like how much do you get

[split maple]

pblood lowers max hit a bit if not pathfinder

[steel light]

without flask

[short prairie]

Pair with progen

Tbh this league you just play mp bv

[livid quarry]

omg 46d progensis

[short prairie]

Also kind of afk

[steel light]

is progen an end game flask for cws? i've never explore the option since last league all went bottled faith and i did it again

[livid quarry]

sense when u getting progen

[short prairie]

When I migrate to sc trade

[frigid wedge]

if ur using life its usually an endgame flask defensively

[short prairie]

Progen is the best life defensive flask

[split maple]

its still under isnt it?

petri blood + progen vs no petri blood + progen

[opal ingot]

can tehy stop namharim to do fucking fighting game combos

he did 5 swipes, he's in the open area

why is he still chaining into that circle move

im not - on block

[steel light]

the guy on top has progen and his ehp becomes 340k compared to my 128k
edit: ok maybe he has more armor too

[short prairie]

If you care about max hit more you can turn off blood, you just get less damage if you on pain attunement

[frigid wedge]

progen is big for survivability

[split maple]

with recovery you get on cws you can read progen simply as "25% more max hit"

[tacit crow]

on call with owner of my company

[split maple]

thats kinda big

[tacit crow]

printer problem

wanna blow head smoove off

[split maple]

or well 25% less dmg taken

idk how that goes to max hit directly 😛

[frigid wedge]

how the fuck

does a printer get you on the phone with the ceo

[short prairie]

schizo + progen + pblood

[frigid wedge]

pf*

[split maple]

small company?

[steel light]

i'll try to farm for ff/ff cause the price are very unstable and i should get them asap, after that progen before i mess with gear corruptions

[frigid wedge]

pblood has no downside if ur using master surgeon anyway

:3

[stuck brook]

https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-gif-8607749

[steel light]

what's schizo

[limpid prairie]

where is the progenesis for E shield :,(

[short prairie]

40% more max hit

[steel light]

full name?

[split maple]

in exchange for no non-cluster non-passage jewels

fun node

[split maple]

its delirium bloodline

[short prairie]

That didn’t happen

[haughty dirge]

Delirium bloodline Schizophrenia

[steel light]

ok

[short prairie]

The changed the name cuz ppl didn’t like it

[haughty dirge]

Ohh

[split maple]

its kinda impossible to make it work on cws tho rite

[steel light]

nvm it bricks my entire cws build 🚮

[split maple]

like that build wants jewels a tad too much for its own good

the only builds i saw it make sense were some slayers and slammers

[limpid prairie]

no ancestral vision or stormshroud right?

[frigid wedge]

ci

[limpid prairie]

how does one live like that

[tranquil sedge]

es doesnt need progen or pb or dissolution, othewise it'd literally just be blue life

[tranquil sedge]

meh

just depends on how much ailments hurt u

[frigid wedge]

i literally click reflect altars where my only ailment immunity is freeze

[tranquil sedge]

im not fully ailment immune on my msoz jugg, poison and bleed and ignite can hurt me, but so far haven't seen it matter at all

[tacit crow]

i sorted it...

[split maple]

ancestral vision on home

[short prairie]

Ye you need bloodnotch and immutable

That tech is not for cws

[frigid wedge]

me in the corner with a 50% shock on a triple as extra map

[short prairie]

But for any other life based characters

[tranquil sedge]

ye just depends on build and content difficulty

[frigid wedge]

build is shit and content just needs density

[tranquil sedge]

tho if ur on a build w/ that much budget you can prob fit at least one immunity pretty trivially on a flask

[karmic gust]

i like it on mom builds a lot as well

[tranquil sedge]

shock avoid/immune flask would fix the single biggest ailment for most ppl probably

[limpid prairie]

i want curse immune for red altars right now

[tranquil sedge]

pantheon can handle like 3 others

[karmic gust]

you get free pseudo corrupted soul for life/es damage split as well

[frigid wedge]

i have 1 rare flask once i get progen

and ms is staying

[split maple]

openess smalls rite?

[tranquil sedge]

ms is probably the least important stat but i respect it

[short prairie]

You can use this with schizo

[karmic gust]

or life smalls either works

[short prairie]

So you don’t need ancestral vision

[karmic gust]

but yeae mana smalls are one of the most efficient smalls

[frigid wedge]

qol > good build

[tranquil sedge]

my 3d openness cluster from phrecia

[frigid wedge]

gross

[short prairie]

after getting MB I just can’t take that quicksilver off

[split maple]

surely you tipped right?

[short prairie]

Ms is importsnt for clearing

[limpid prairie]

QoL>
is why i have "misty shroud" instead of "for the jugular"
zoommmmmm

[tranquil sedge]

if ur playing flicker or zenith

movespeed is barely relevant

[wheat sinew]

^

Leap + frostblink/shield

[short prairie]

Ye for flicker it’s irrelevant

[wheat sinew]

Ez life

[karmic gust]

eeh movevspeed is always relevant

[split maple]

yeah coz with zenith mobs gonna die from boredom waiting for you to leap slam to them first anyways

[karmic gust]

you still need to loot

[frigid wedge]

me with an ms headhunter and a ms suffix quicksilver knowing full well im going to traverse every map with wintry spam

[tranquil sedge]

is not as important fine fine

[wheat sinew]

I mean having 7 asp leap slam helps

XDDDD

[frigid wedge]

my wintry is literally a 4L in socketed speed gloves

[wheat sinew]

It's just zoooomies

[mental nymph]

[wheat sinew]

Almost as if you have 700 Ms on heister lul

[short prairie]

Leapslam of ground breaking, they die when you slam into them

[mental nymph]

You're doing it wrong without faster attacks leap slam

[short prairie]

No main skill needed

[split maple]

then you try heist with leap slam

all them lil corners and edges

[wheat sinew]

Esm I did that

That was when I ran the 15k bps

Lol

[short prairie]

Stuck

[split maple]

man fuck how are you still sane

[short prairie]

Lmao

How you not get stuck

[frigid wedge]

also as a wintry 3L enjoyer ive very much mastered the art of not echoing while i have spell echo

[wheat sinew]

I had less jaggy edges than trying to traverse with too much ms

XDDDD

Was so much more controllable

[split maple]

in the end its gonna be some networking mode difference between predictive or smh

[wheat sinew]

It was hella fun tho

[short prairie]

How do you make an auto Bomber heist runner anyway

[wheat sinew]

Got from 92 to 97 heisting on that character

[short prairie]

RF pf

[wheat sinew]

(only reason I liked heist is that I can do tanky characters that are semi speedy cuz if you are just speed and no tank you just told to traps lol

[steel light]

i expect a bountiful harvest

[short prairie]

New type of heist runner

[wheat sinew]

There is a reliquarian rf build

[short prairie]

Never cast black hole again

[split maple]

i see a lot of purple juice in your future

oh fuck thats a lot of purple

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

@opal ingot @ebon hatch after 1h of doing the rush strat, 34d in juice and ~3d in investment (8mod map + fragments), not bad

[opal ingot]

ru astrolabing it