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halcyon prawn
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ik that

verbal gust
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lol what

halcyon prawn
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u can get upto ur max if ur charge duration is greater than 15/14/13/12/11/10

wheat linden
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Could I just grand like I did. And just keep upgrading that Grand twice more?

limpid prairie
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charges last 10 seconds
so if you have charges every 10 seconds do they stack or not?

halcyon prawn
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^

wheat linden
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Okay okay, so maybe I did hit it once, then 5 times fail.

halcyon prawn
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basically, if u can get the tier 6 implicit, u dont need any charge duration, if thats how it works

lean urchin
wheat linden
limpid prairie
spice pecan
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classic way of sustaining one type of charge is to get charge per 15 on chest implicit and take charge mastery for 100% inc charge duration

lean urchin
spice pecan
wheat linden
spice pecan
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you really want to have at least slightly more duration than generation speed

limpid prairie
lean urchin
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thats the same answer, but i didnt want to bring in server ticks

halcyon prawn
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wait i can test it right now

lean urchin
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cause EU servers struggle to tick cadibroPerandus

halcyon prawn
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base items with the 10s implicit are cheap

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and yes, it does go to ur max

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unless yea, the server tick thing i guess?

limpid prairie
lean urchin
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its super cheap to get 10s endurance

spice pecan
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is 10s from the big embers/ichors?

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or is that elevated

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cuz fuck orb of conflict, worst item in the game

limpid prairie
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arent dom orbs like super expensive?

surreal mulch
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yeah

twin arch
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uh

spice pecan
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orb of conflict, not dominance

twin arch
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logbooks not working

surreal mulch
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both

spice pecan
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oh does dom work too

twin arch
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im most certain i hit 10 remnants

lean urchin
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nvm i read it upside down, 10s is perfect mod

twin arch
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but

spice pecan
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yeah i think the best you can get before conflict orbing is 12s?

limpid prairie
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yeah...
worth to beasr hinekora lock for it

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probably

lean urchin
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remnants are the buff/debuff things. clear all mobs

surreal mulch
prime needle
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ended up winning the fracture but not entirely sure where to go with it

prime needle
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can craft for any charge stacker or cyclone build maybe

lean urchin
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or use "While a Unique Enemy is in your Presence, Gain an Endurance Charge every 10 seconds" from lesser red orb

surreal mulch
limpid prairie
charred condor
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About my build, it may not be the best kf ballista version but i don’t have to effort to spec into something else

surreal mulch
spice pecan
prime needle
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never been easier to either twink level or respec

limpid prairie
spice pecan
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think the only time i ever cared about unique/pinnacle eldritch mods was on mercs because they worked

surreal mulch
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are you trying to get 2 specific implicits on an item?

prime needle
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nah i personally prefer burning 200div on conflict orbs

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to go from exquisite to grand 14 times

spice pecan
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i hate them more than i hate clusters

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and i really, really hate clusters

prime needle
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conflict orbs are 100% my biggest loss item this league

surreal mulch
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check craftofexile to see which implicit is eater and which is exarch

prime needle
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trying to get max light res on chest/helmet for melding

surreal mulch
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you can't have two exarch

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remember when two toned boots were the meta before they added eldritch shit lol

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I mean they're still not bad but 5 action speed is hard to beat

prime needle
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why are we asking for scion buff in the league where we got scion buff?

halcyon prawn
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neversink doesnt have a tink for this

surreal mulch
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because it's a boss item

prime needle
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why would you be running default neversink

lean urchin
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its a boss unique, why shouldnt u check it

halcyon prawn
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all the others do

surreal mulch
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you check the floor for bosses

surreal mulch
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it depends on normal pool

prime needle
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if you want it to tink then re-tier it lol

nocturne maple
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can't wait for tinks when I see a doomsower

surreal mulch
prime needle
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gonna make alts tink

surreal mulch
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it's a pretty expensive sword

prime needle
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then i can't complain about no tinks

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yes but if there is a different base that is common in maps or normal farm strats

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then he needs to re-tier the base lol

surreal mulch
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no

prime needle
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lol ok

halcyon prawn
surreal mulch
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it's mainly because they DONT have trash uniques with that base

halcyon prawn
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ah, lion sword does

thorn lotus
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you know he explains these decisions, right?

surreal mulch
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so if a unique with that base drops you know who it is

prime needle
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time to respec into expedition again for the 4th time this league and see if it's a viable farm strat(it's just as viable as the last 5 times i tried it)

halcyon prawn
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im on a lower tier regardless, so it wasnt hidden

surreal mulch
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it's viable but super slow

halcyon prawn
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it just didnt tink

surreal mulch
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compared to others

halcyon prawn
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but i get why now

prime needle
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i mean i ran like 250 maps of it and profit felt really bad compared to say ritual or map farming or breach etc

spice pecan
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the only thing i edit from neversink is incubators if im doing simu

surreal mulch
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you need to put a bunch of effort into getting your tujen div compared to other strats where you just get a div or two per map at lowest

prime needle
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fair

surreal mulch
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HOWEVER they did add the afarud logbooks

prime needle
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i actually enjoy the tujen rolling

surreal mulch
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those are kind of sick?

prime needle
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maybe logbook prices changed some but i wasn't enjoying boss hunting in them

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maybe ran a couple hundred logbooks immediately closing if no boss inside

surreal mulch
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you can get the hyper expensive timeless from them

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if they have the afarud implicit

prime needle
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gotcha

spice pecan
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i love that wardbreak requires a mirror timeless jewel to even consider playing

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xd

surreal mulch
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you can still do it without it it's just not as good

prime needle
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prob respec my breach tree

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strat is boring rn

reef dune
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if I take this, I have to win the suffix annul?

prime needle
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already have my leveled mamba char so can run all but no chaos as far as mods go

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on big boom exped

surreal mulch
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unless you specifically mean math

reef dune
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welp we keep going

limpid prairie
prime needle
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still need to do the fucking originator witness too

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only points i'm missing on atlas but can't be assed it's so fucking boring running those maps

reef dune
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wait hold up

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multiple donors will result in multiple outcomes?!

surreal mulch
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yeah I have to redo the 3 memory threads for the third time now because I forgot to modify the dumbass remembered invitation

limpid prairie
surreal mulch
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for the challenge

spice pecan
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can we go back to patch 0.6.7 please

twin arch
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67

lean urchin
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u mean 0.9.1

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wait no

spice pecan
lean urchin
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5am logic

spice pecan
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0.9 would work

halcyon prawn
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some rarity of it would be nice

twin arch
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speaking of Currency

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whens the last time you saw someone HARD craft with Chaos orbs

unborn drum
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How about we just add quantity support back

twin arch
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like

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chaos orbs are The Dollar

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because they serve a purpose

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but i havent seen someone craft with them in a while

lean urchin
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i use chaos orbs on maps, no regrets

limpid prairie
unborn drum
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So we can watch as everyones build turns into 5 links because quantity cannot be given up

lean urchin
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just imbue main skill with it

limpid prairie
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lvl 1 quantity? eww

unborn drum
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It was 40 to 59 iirc

reef dune
prime needle
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why don't we just play poe2 and run rarity suffix on every gear piece

thick goblet
lean urchin
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poe2 is not free, and my pc is normal rarity

unborn drum
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Oh btw empress. Can you go bother shoto to play a flicker build for me? It'll be funny, I guarantee it.

limpid prairie
spice pecan
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flicker isnt a real skill

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pestilent strike is more of a real skill than flicker

unborn drum
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You know why, also throw me under the bus in the process

prime needle
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hm does rarity affect amt of ward gear dropped in exped. i would think no because it's not rarity tiering but base tiering

unborn drum
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He will probably send another meme of me being an idiot again

prime needle
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so prob pack size + quant like otherwise

halcyon prawn
# surreal mulch no

anyway to keep the bad unique in this usual tier, but move golden charlatan to S tier

spice pecan
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actual pestilent strike player

halcyon prawn
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cuz u have to move the whole of lion sword base type to S tier, which includes the other bad unique

lean urchin
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whats a base item anyway, made by the same smith? same mould?

grave kelp
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just a base

halcyon prawn
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same mould

subtle imp
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dude on reddit found the most cracked reflecting mist (in map) to every exist wth

compact bronze
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when will league end?

halcyon prawn
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pretty good

grave kelp
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That’s giga

compact bronze
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how many months left

spice pecan
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it just started homie

subtle imp
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shit dropped naturally

halcyon prawn
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poe2 next

subtle imp
halcyon prawn
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endgame rework

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no more tower thingies

subtle imp
spice pecan
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i've come to the conclusion that poe2 isn't even a real game

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it kind of just doesnt exist to me

grave kelp
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why poe2 hate both games are good and fun

unborn drum
subtle imp
tough cove
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with less content

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and worse endgame

subtle imp
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true

limpid prairie
halcyon prawn
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have u guys seen the temple mechanic in the recent league tho

tough cove
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and i still loathe the poo2 passive tree

halcyon prawn
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besides the economy breaking aspect, the concept is really nice

subtle imp
halcyon prawn
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lol

subtle imp
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I want my synthesis league mechanic back

spice pecan
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the idea of temple building was alright but like, it doesn't matter

tough cove
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the problem was that theres only one layout that matters

spice pecan
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i dont think there's a mechanic they could ever make in poe2 that would make the game not suck

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tbh

tough cove
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and if your doing it any other ways its bad

twin arch
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hey

spice pecan
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also yeah that

tough cove
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I mean they could but they wont

lucid gale
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I quite enjoyed my temple in a non-sweaty manner, vibe-building and trying to reach for Atziri and getting whatever rewards were along the way.

twin arch
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which Lycia do i kill for Seized Strength again

surreal mulch
twin arch
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Nightmare?

spice pecan
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temple was basically unplayable if you didn't make snakes correctly

tough cove
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It woudl require them to change their core philosphy around poo2

lucid gale
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A bit of a bummer that a lot of the playerbase never really ran it au naturel.

spice pecan
subtle imp
unborn drum
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The league I liked most for the league mechanic addition at the time was probably delirium league since it added a lot of ability to make builds without needing a character specific to the skill as much

lean urchin
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poe 1 is full of "solved game" players. im not surprised zao (i didnt play poe2)

lucid gale
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I'm semi-SSF, too lazy to buy items 😉

tough cove
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deli was the best league

unborn drum
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Magezerker, pf spells, etc

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Attack necro

lucid gale
subtle imp
spice pecan
twin arch
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who is next easiest

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Catarina costs 20 divs to fight

spice pecan
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it had no loot if you ran it like a normal person

twin arch
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so dont bother

subtle imp
surreal mulch
halcyon prawn
limpid prairie
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PoE2 looks fun enough as i dont play much but like
i will never get through the campaign :,)

lean urchin
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trailmaster, scarab + t1 map

twin arch
primal coyote
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Was delirium when we got the insane infinite duration archmage brands? That was fun

subtle imp
twin arch
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the exalt is also rare as buns

subtle imp
surreal mulch
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olroth

spice pecan
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i think delirium league herald stacker is the strongest build this game has ever seen iirc

unborn drum
# twin arch who is next easiest

This reminds me of how I changed my bloodline like 10 times on one character trying to decide which version was better this league

lucid gale
twin arch
spice pecan
nocturne maple
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trialmaster is prob really easy

lucid gale
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Kind of the story of any league in both games, 0.4 was just very strong in how it played out.

onyx dawn
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whats the best farming strat besides breach? I assume boxes but theres some debate around containment or not

spice pecan
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i just wish i could move my character in that game tbh

subtle imp
surreal mulch
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everything is viable

lucid gale
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Choices \o/

prime needle
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breach prob isn't even the best rn

onyx dawn
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okay better question, is there a farm you guys are having a lot of fun with?

unborn drum
surreal mulch
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except that focusing on masters isn't that great because they can't be miraged

reef dune
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nooooo

prime needle
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scarab boxes in fully miraged is good, terrors is good in multiple variations, ritual, delve is insane

lucid gale
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Mirage with the all-around league touchups seems nice, haven't really played much myself.

reef dune
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i'm not brave enough to chance that annul

twin arch
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Oxid

surreal mulch
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are ggg employees allowed to play the game during league start?

twin arch
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i'll give you some luck

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go do it

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you got this

surreal mulch
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or in general

limpid prairie
surreal mulch
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probably not right

twin arch
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its a 1/6

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thats like rolling a 6 on a dice

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you can do that

surreal mulch
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imagine working on a game and you can't even play it during peak times

buoyant steppe
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free jenobu, jenobu did nothing wrong

surreal mulch
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the horror

unborn drum
twin arch
unborn drum
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I genuinely hated area specific maps and couldnt wait to get to the very end and just buy maps

limpid prairie
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Mirage wasnt exciting, until i dropped a volatile vaal orb then it was very exiciting

buoyant steppe
kindred lily
spice pecan
surreal mulch
reef dune
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wait hold up i have the original base imprinted. can i bring it back after a woke slam, if the annul goes wrong?

twin arch
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yes

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wait

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idk

lucid gale
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@crude sable @opaque sphinx Are servers still hosed, and if so, which ones?

twin arch
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ask someone smarter

reef dune
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quick, someone smarter, we need you

surreal mulch
twin arch
spice pecan
limpid prairie
spice pecan
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or play ssf or idk anything

unborn drum
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Volatile vaal orbs are the best thing they added since it gives people more fun things to do, second being the map change

surreal mulch
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anyways I'm not good enough at flipping for that to be an issue

lucid gale
spice pecan
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this might be a fuego take but i'm honestly not the biggest fan of the map change. it's good but it feels weird

dark kite
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yeah im still on the fence about some of the specifics of the new atlas but on balance it's a massive improvement

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needs some tweaks

limpid prairie
lucid gale
spice pecan
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like it's way better for atlas prog but it feels weird not missing all the 3-to-1s/horizons/kirac refreshes and shit

dark kite
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like being able to right-click unid unique maps to open them

twin arch
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ive heard mostly Spikes and Fail to Join

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Washington is just Spikes

onyx dawn
kindred lily
dark kite
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i miss the map device's interface, i dont love the atlas and map device being combined

unborn drum
twin arch
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be warned though YMMV

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i speak for myself

subtle imp
spice pecan
subtle imp
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smh my head

surreal mulch
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I expected it to be impossible because the valuable 20 hours a day of leaguestart time could be spent on more programming

reef dune
onyx dawn
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is there a good build guide out there for explodey BV that isn't like a mirror+?

surreal mulch
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you don't really need a guide because minion pact is broken right out the box and super cheap

true ivy
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Wait ur telling me for 20 divs i can get 100% crit chance w the diamind shrine belt?

dark kite
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ive decided i dont like arakaali's fang

surreal mulch
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all you need is a marionette. you don't even need companionship,it just gives more damage

true ivy
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Id save so many skill points

dark kite
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now looking for a different build

surreal mulch
unborn drum
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Oh fun little thing ive found for clear mapping, if you do an autobomber with phase run and aspect of the cat, it cycles between enemies not being able to see you past 2m and 4m so they generally just dont know you exist before they are dead.

dark kite
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yeah

surreal mulch
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cyclone arakaali is hyper smooth

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there's really no minion build smoother

drowsy eagle
surreal mulch
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but you can try srs it's pretty close

dark kite
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see the problem is i cant seem to consistently summon the spiders

hard cliff
surreal mulch
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uh. no that's not the items issue

true ivy
unborn drum
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There is a trap that has 100% base crit actually

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Lightning something

drowsy eagle
surreal mulch
true ivy
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This game has fishing rods?

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Wtf

prime needle
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yeah

unborn drum
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They are memes

prime needle
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they're for baiting fish

limpid prairie
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yeah fishing is like very good late game

surreal mulch
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yeah they're for casting

lucid gale
dark kite
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lightning spire trap of overloading has 100%

reef dune
limpid prairie
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but if we say anything about fishing well get banned

halcyon prawn
subtle imp
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Guys my gf doesnt know the "remember son dying is gay" meme send help

surreal mulch
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and use worm flask

dark kite
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ive got cwc desecrate, got worm flask

surreal mulch
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weird

compact bronze
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can i still change my ascendancy?

surreal mulch
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so you're NOT seeing them go up to 30 consistently right?

dark kite
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i usually get maybe 6 worms to start with, at best 12

drowsy eagle
dark kite
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once i have some, it's not too hard to get to 40 for the rest of the map

lean urchin
unborn drum
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lowkey got sad when I couldnt double up the tricorne and surfcaster move speed bonuses

dark kite
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but if they fall off it can be tough to get them back

surreal mulch
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oh because you're not killing

dark kite
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and ive had several instances where i cyclone, hit worm flask, and get no spiders

surreal mulch
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there's the worm ring

compact bronze
surreal mulch
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it also doubles as a super easy way of doing offerings

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but it might eat up too many corpses so you can just put a curse in there

lean urchin
dark kite
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i have better luck with the secondary divine ire setup but its still awkward

unborn drum
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Or you could be like me and use brittle painseeker on every build and laugh in 6 ailments with 3 tamings, but eh, who needs fun things

dark kite
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i have to stand still and take a couple seconds to get my spiders started, every map

prime needle
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well it is certainly much much faster

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with mamba vs slams on exped

surreal mulch
dark kite
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the potential is there, it's just too fiddly for my liking

prime needle
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like 2 mins incl looting and both expeds

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for a full map on dunes

unborn drum
dark kite
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i'll try squirming terror but i dont like the idea of losing a ring slot

unborn drum
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For souleater deathrush etc

obtuse turtle
prime needle
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so just run a dessicated belt and get ur ring slot back

surreal mulch
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you're not losing a ring slot you're gaining a friend

prime needle
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that didn't happen>

dark kite
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what would you suggest i put in the squirming terror? another desecrate?

surreal mulch
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a curse

reef dune
surreal mulch
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like despair

dark kite
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i already have despair in my cwc

surreal mulch
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oh

spice pecan
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hungry loop being a 6link ring is really funny

unborn drum
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Worm ring is mostly for rampage and deathrush, or some corpse pact vd seething stuff with souleater to get 500 attack and cast speed but ya know, most people dont think about the possibilities

reef dune
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ok now i guess the question is do i stop at T2 or keep going for T1 hmmm

lean urchin
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when i touch my toes im a hungry loop

limpid prairie
reef dune
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whoa who said anything about that

surreal mulch
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yeah you can put another desecrate in there

hard cliff
dark kite
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what if i put portal in the squirming terror

limpid prairie
unborn drum
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I have genuinely done that with a build that used 3 of the ring

surreal mulch
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maybe shock nova

reef dune
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well after all that i've decided to go for T1 life

surreal mulch
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actually it'd probably not do enough damage to shock

reef dune
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to heck with settling for T2

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the extra 10 life might save me

unborn drum
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3 on kill trigger rings is just too powerful when they spawn things to trigger themselves with

unborn drum
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No, it was cast on death

surreal mulch
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pff

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why

unborn drum
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Which isnt much better

limpid prairie
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how does cast on death clear xdxdxdx

lean urchin
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i might fit flicker into my RF setup, to kill the stragglers

unborn drum
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You are asking me why I made a questionable build?

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You would hate my list of poe builds then

surreal mulch
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but I do think putting an offering in the worm could be better if it's not competing with your spiders too much

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would have to see

twin arch
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damn

unborn drum
twin arch
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ultimatum is hard

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i failed cause of timer

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it doesnt deal dmg but the timer sucks

unborn drum
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You just pop stuff you cant be arsed to deal with

lean urchin
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did u reach trailmaster?

twin arch
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no

lean urchin
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so altar died then

twin arch
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my AGoS is stuck perma fleeing now though

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so thats fun

surreal mulch
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what timer. did you get a defend ultimatum?

limpid prairie
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there are different types of ultimatum

spice pecan
twin arch
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i got a timer

spice pecan
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god that was the most annoying part of playing aurabot merc

surreal mulch
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it's not a timer it's a healthbar

lean urchin
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u went outside the ring?....

twin arch
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no

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lol

spice pecan
surreal mulch
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how did the timer look like

twin arch
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it was above the progress bhar

unborn drum
twin arch
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it was just a timer

full kraken
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so is there like... a way to unfuck wealthyexile's ui

spice pecan
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wait i have a question about ag

surreal mulch
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oh that's the survive timer

full kraken
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the part of the UI I care about takes up like... 15% of the screen

spice pecan
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does ag benefit from unique/pinnacle eldritch implicits the same way that mercs did?

surreal mulch
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it's a good timer actually

twin arch
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yes

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it does

spice pecan
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holy shit lmao

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that's sick

twin arch
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because the player is a Pinnacle

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but

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Ultimatums hardest part

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is fighting its bugs

lean urchin
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how do you run out of time surviving

unborn drum
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AG should just be the new merc they merge into the game and allow jewelry on it so we can have fun builds again

twin arch
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buggiest mechanic ive ever seen

spice pecan
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yeah, the player isn't an enemy tho which is why it was always confusing

unborn drum
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I love bob builds

twin arch
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its coded that way

spice pecan
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i kinda want to play bob ngl

surreal mulch
spice pecan
surreal mulch
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I did so many ultimatums and no issues

twin arch
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Menagerie has less bugs

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than this

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would rather run beasts forever

spice pecan
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is this the first league in years where we haven't had some gamebreaking exploit involving beasts?

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like there was one last league with removing the split tag from maps, that was somehow different than the ultimatum one

reef dune
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what fresh hell is this

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never hit so many influenced mods on a potential woke slam

surreal mulch
unborn drum
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Welcome to rng

lean urchin
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mirage doesnt touch beasts so they dodged that

surreal mulch
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"uuuh we couldn't figure out how to alva so you don't get to have alva sorry"

unborn drum
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Sometimes I feel like ritual is bugged in mirage

halcyon prawn
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mirage added nothing for alva/einhar?

unborn drum
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Does some weird shit I dont understand occasionally

surreal mulch
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it's weird if you don't complete the normal ritual before mirage

lean urchin
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no masters work

surreal mulch
halcyon prawn
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damn

surreal mulch
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what they did add is sometimes you get betrayal guys in mirages

halcyon prawn
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missed opportunity

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maybe u couldve got cool new temple rooms

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/new beastcrafts

surreal mulch
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true

lean urchin
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a pocketsand skill

unborn drum
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I always loved getting deleted by a dude spawning on my face from betrayal while im spawning in but somehow started moving while loading

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10/10 moment

surreal mulch
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that's why they call it ambush

dark kite
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hmm, ok, the ring is helping

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i need to solve defence now

spice pecan
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Encounter failed. You were assassinated.

surreal mulch
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the wyrm

spice pecan
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they shouled play the dark souls YOU DIED when you die to betrayal ambush

surreal mulch
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the wiorm

lean urchin
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jun sends me into the basement more than mom does when she is angry

surreal mulch
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I'm gonna go put the wiorm on for offerings

surreal mulch
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I probably don't even need desecrate if I just use the natural corpses

lean urchin
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the fortress from syndicate could be a sandcastle in mirages

surreal mulch
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true

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I mean cmon "order of the djinn" bro,like how did they decide to not do it

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on a djinn themed league

spice pecan
surreal mulch
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that's an upside

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that's like seeing "increased magic monster pack size" on a remnant prefix

dark kite
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ok yeah eben with squirming terror im not loving it

compact bronze
dark kite
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plus this many minions attacking this fast slows down my game

compact bronze
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ive tried unallocating all the jewels and them asteries still stay changed

dark kite
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wdym "changed"

limpid prairie
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runegrafts?

halcyon prawn
compact bronze
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like this

limpid prairie
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i was right!
10 points for me

unborn drum
dark kite
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yeah thats a runegraft, its an item you apply to a mastery passive to give it a different effect

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nothing to do with jewels

unborn drum
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Best mtx ever for cws builds

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You spew lava everywhere

hardy heath
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we like to see that

dark kite
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whats the go-to ascendancy for bv minpact

twin arch
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is this easy

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do i need the altar

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or can i use vaals

dark kite
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yes

hardy heath
twin arch
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i can use vaals?

dark kite
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you only need one or the other

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vaals are fine

twin arch
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ok hold on

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i have some level 20s to vaal

lean urchin
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its 21 OR 23%, just vaal something 20% or level 20

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like the mirror arrow gem

dark kite
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yeah certain 20 quals are cheap as hell

surreal mulch
dark kite
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i think tomorrow im gonna go back to cws chief and rattle off the last 25 astrolabed 150 quant maps for 36/40

surreal mulch
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you should consider doing poison srs or awora while you're already on minion witch

limpid prairie
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uwuroras!

dark kite
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animate weapon seems like it'd have the same issue as raise spiders

surreal mulch
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they last 90 seconds

hardy heath
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animate weapon of ranged arms was my league starter

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hella fun

surreal mulch
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and bows really good clear because range

twin arch
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how rare is 23 qual

spice pecan
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i meant to play that in ssf last leg

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can you swap to RAW before you get covenant?

dark kite
surreal mulch
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idk what raw is

dark kite
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ranged animate weapon

surreal mulch
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oh

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yeah kinda why not

dark kite
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covenant the chest or covenant the jewels?

twin arch
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ok

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its def not 1/4

hardy heath
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my aniamte wepon build is at like 700k ehp and 70mil dps atm

twin arch
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ive done it to 12

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im using NORMAL vaal orbs

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on lvl 1 qual 20 gems

hardy heath
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only downside i didnt like was the clear is good but only one directional

surreal mulch
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though it's not nearly as good

prime needle
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is that fake svallin ehp?

hardy heath
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no screenwide clear

spice pecan
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can you just use chain/fork on RAW for clear tho

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or are the links kind of set in stone

hardy heath
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i use svaling ye but even without i can comfortably afk some ubers

surreal mulch
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the whole point of poison srs and AWoRA is that it's a lot of guys

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and they build up wither super fast

hardy heath
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used to farm uber dread on it

dark kite
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ok looks like it's 1/4 to change quality and then maybe 1/12 to hit the 23? not sure exactly

surreal mulch
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with unholy might

dark kite
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1/8 to hit lv21

surreal mulch
spice pecan
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or are we getting too deep in the weeds

surreal mulch
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I'm actually not sure? I should go test that but I think I'm already hitting the range limit which is not affected by speed. there's a chance this is actually just the projectile duration limit I'm seeing

spice pecan
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oh that could be

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did you swap to RAW before covenant, or after?

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i tried it in ssf last league but was stuck on absolution into the 90s because cadiro and tree wouldnt give me the damn chest

surreal mulch
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I was doing poison srs immediately with covenant then did awora

spice pecan
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hmmge

twin arch
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Why does the orb regalia have 3 tiers

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what am i missing

spice pecan
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orb regalia?

twin arch
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mtx from challenges

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its not reactive

spice pecan
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its because it has 3 different looks

twin arch
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oh i see

surreal mulch
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I'm glad it's not one of those "get the shitty version first" ones

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though I wish it had voicelines like the chaosborn set does

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considering this is another orb themed set

twin arch
spice pecan
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wondering if i should get this league's kirac pass set

twin arch
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someone said shitty ver first

surreal mulch
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you can kinda see how they ran out of juice in the first few kirak passes

grave kelp
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nice self gamba

surreal mulch
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marylene manson

spice pecan
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Mary Lean

slow sonnet
spice pecan
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if it were foulborn, it would truly be Mary Lean

twin arch
twin arch
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i mustve bought it forever ago

slow sonnet
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I took off Bronn's Lithe and my gameplay feels better

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Strange

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Does anyone have any Atlas Gold Farming settups?

twin arch
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its so beautiful

ashen yarrow
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anyone managed to figure out what causes the failed to join instance thing when trying to login my duo is stuck at character select

dark kite
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man i miss ed/con

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that soft whoosh

halcyon prawn
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1800s trade site rate limit

regal silo
halcyon prawn
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i wasnt even spamming, i think something bugged with the back button on the browser

twin arch
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i have max chaos resist

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im chillin

full kraken
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almost got my syndicate re-organized the way I want em

spice pecan
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my buddy spent like 14 hours setting up his board

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then he got stoned and ran his 5s

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and i get a dm at 4am on discord "fuck betrayal"

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anyway is there any way to make mines feel less shitty in campaign

noble sleet
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Will BV minion pact remain king for the whole league?

rancid sluice
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put det mines on automation and just walk

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until lvl 28 mines are slow

spice pecan
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i'm in a7 and holy shit the throw speed/detonation speed is ass

nocturne maple
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big diviner's

spice pecan
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i even took sabo 50% cdr node just to make it better

pastel aspen
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is anyone doing lycia bloodline ?

rancid sluice
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you running swift assembly? like dont try minefield early

pastel aspen
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wym

spice pecan
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oh i forgot about swift assembly tbh

rancid sluice
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craft throw speed on belt/weapon too

spice pecan
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oh is throw speed on belt a thing? i have it on weapon

rancid sluice
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essence gives it, zeal i think? i cant remeber

spice pecan
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3 wand gambas Pogott

rancid sluice
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y it is zeal

spice pecan
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wait swift assembly doesn't even add throw speed

rancid sluice
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chucks more at a time

spice pecan
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even with minefield?

rancid sluice
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so you dont feel like you have to hammer down on it

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i wouldnt touch minefield early honestly

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lots of dps but its dog ass slow

spice pecan
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yeah, true

opaque sphinx
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mnefield is the midrange support

spice pecan
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i haven't ever played mines till like yellow maps xd

twin arch
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R u autobombering

opaque sphinx
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too low throw speed and its ass and locks u up
too high throw speed and there's no point using it

spice pecan
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my name

twin arch
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icicle mines

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Wtf

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mental health check

rancid sluice
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deadeye? i played that in keepers

spice pecan
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my name

rancid sluice
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oh sabo

spice pecan
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might go trickster at some point, not sure

rancid sluice
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i didnt know ppl actually used sabo 😉

spice pecan
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nimis node calls my name

opaque sphinx
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catmines sabo

spice pecan
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i would play catmines if soulrend of the spiral didnt cost infinite mana

opaque sphinx
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machina mitts

spice pecan
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bruh

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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where are those even from? blight?

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or atziri?

opaque sphinx
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temple

spice pecan
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gross

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also machina mitts OMEGALUL

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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not getting sandstorm in ssf anytime soon lmao

twin arch
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I wonder what theyre gonna gut when it comes to pathfindee

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I want to leaguestart heist

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But heist being pathfinder gated is so lame

rancid sluice
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i want to love mines play ic last league for a bit got an exsang now but man they just seem like they need a lot of pieces to survive. and a lot of them ive seen tend to use a shitload of uniques so your just cramming to get attr res etc

spice pecan
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attributes are a big problem yeah

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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but exsang specifically uses at least 3 uniques so that's kind of unique to exsang specifically

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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heatshiver/hrimsorrow/kikazaru

opaque sphinx
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and champ

spice pecan
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champ is better at heist than pf anyway

twin arch
rancid sluice
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i was on budget ic in keepers so it was a lot of uniques too, march, heatshiver etc

twin arch
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Its like

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You CAN

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But why would you

opaque sphinx
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banners are fast

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very fast

nocturne maple
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banners make champ faster than pf

spice pecan
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bannerman is extremely fast

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like, you actually get too much speed

spice pecan
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because then its just like a 4link if you have to use high-impact

rancid sluice
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right because of the aura tag

full kraken
spice pecan
full kraken
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or do you utilize an automated melee attack or something to automatically charge the banner as you run

spice pecan
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banner effect lingers, you get valor for leaving area, and you have turbo warcry cdr with the valor per warcry node

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you don't have to attack or do anything to gain valor

nocturne maple
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you still have to press a button every few seconds to sustain it

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but it's pretty chill

spice pecan
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i mean yeah you have to press dread and defiance banner every few seconds

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but you fucking fly through that shit

full kraken
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I guess big upside to champ is you can use acceleration belt and that probably pushes you higher than pf by a lot

spice pecan
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you dont need accel belt

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that would make the character basically uncontrollable

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you would use massive belt

full kraken
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actually tbh accel belt prolly lets you hit well over 900% movespeed on any build without even having to abuse anything, you just gotta hit like 600% movespeed which is easy with onslaught, tailwind, etc

spice pecan
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because you already have so much speed that you literally need the aoe

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otherwise you leave your banner area too fast

full kraken
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prolly can just go.... hmm... prolly gladiator

spice pecan
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and keep in mind banners are 1.5 screens wide btw

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massive belt is way, way better than accel for that

twin arch
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Is bannerman really a cheaper start than pf?

spice pecan
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yes

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you don't need jack shit to play bannerman

rancid sluice
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been on goratha's pb ignite ele last few days fast af running stacked deck strat can clear a map under a minute .. and then go back and loot everything and clear rares for 5 min more heh. not a lot of st rn for sure

spice pecan
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get foulborn uul-netol axe and a 6L for autoexert setup

nocturne maple
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it's all contained in gems and skill tree

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so nothing to buy

spice pecan
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and that's literally all you need

twin arch
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Hmm

full kraken
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actually hell, accel belt and straight up just go shrine body and helm

spice pecan
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you dont even need ms on your boots on banners lol

twin arch
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And its all automatic

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What do you even press

spice pecan
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i mean you have to drop dread/defiance banners every few seconds

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other than that, nothing

twin arch
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Oh you have two equally valuable buttons?

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Hemm

spice pecan
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you can even put bloodsoaked banner into your banner 6L and scale some phys dot

full kraken
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okay now I kinda wanna pob this

spice pecan
full kraken
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accelt belt is only ~280 div too, thats... actually not even that bad for what it lets you do

spice pecan
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so you get block cap, suppress cap, res cap, turbo ms, 1k life regen

twin arch
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Well yeah but only ONE can go on Right Click

spice pecan
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just by pressing two banners

twin arch
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I guess the MS one could go where shield charge normally goes

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Cause i imagine you just walk everywhere

nocturne maple
full kraken
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especially since youd wanna be using svalinn on pf and you free that up, which is -63div price tag

spice pecan
nocturne maple
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defiance is suppress/ms. Dread is block. Both give res

tranquil umbra
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yeah banners are insane for a leaguestart, but they fall off so insanely fast because you cannot scale the dps at all

twin arch
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Well yeah thats kinda how leaguestarts are

spice pecan
twin arch
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Thats why its for heist

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You bannerman heist

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Drop 50 div

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And make something good

spice pecan
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i mean you can kinda scale phys dot with bloodsoaked banner

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i got it to like 10m which is already overkill for heist

tranquil umbra
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I meant that anyway

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bsb

limpid prairie
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where can i find a synth mod list? poe db?

spice pecan
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and having damage on the build makes heist a lot smoother

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whereas on pf you're pressing like 4 non damaging buttons to just not die

tranquil umbra
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you also just can't die

spice pecan
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super cringe

tranquil umbra
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due to regen

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and 1k hp on block

spice pecan
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and with versatile combatant you cap spell block too, even with a 2h like foulborn uulnetol

tranquil umbra
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it's so funny that you cap block with a 2h axe

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actually comedic numbers on banners

spice pecan
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banners are hilarious

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you can like 2 full screens of aoe on those things too

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1.5 screens with zero investment

twin arch
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My biggest issue would be button weight

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Like

tranquil umbra
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it also goes through walls

twin arch
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On AGoS

tranquil umbra
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which is SUPER insane

twin arch
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You put flame link on right click

valid kraken
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Are there 2 or 4 void stones total?

twin arch
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And you have everything else on other things

spice pecan
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4

twin arch
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Because flame link is the best skill to press most often

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Bannerman has like 2 of those

spice pecan
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i mean it's 2 buttons yes, but you basically don't need leap slam/frostblink

twin arch
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And thats when i get too stupid

spice pecan
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so you can cut your movement buttons

tranquil umbra
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yeah you don't need a movement skill

twin arch
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Shield charge

spice pecan
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no

tranquil umbra
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no

spice pecan
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you dont use a shield

twin arch
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Ok

spice pecan
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you use foulborn uul-netol's kiss

twin arch
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So you put the movement banner

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On your Shield Charge

tranquil umbra
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uul-netol's kiss

twin arch
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And your damage banner

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On your right click

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And thats it

spice pecan
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well they're both damage banners with bsb support technically

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but sure, yeah

tranquil umbra
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both banners are damage banners since there really isn't a good 5th support gem for the skill

twin arch
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Well yeah

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But one gives movespeed

tranquil umbra
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so you put both on the same 6l

spice pecan
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yeah, you put in bsb and like some dot support

twin arch
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Put that on the movement keybind

grave kelp
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can you buy a synth shield and reroll the implicit to be life on block?

tranquil umbra
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nightmare vulture rotation

thick goblet
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sure, if you're lucky

twin arch
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I wonder how much research ill need to do between now and next league on how2heist and bannerman

grave kelp
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people are overcharging for armor bases with life on block

opaque sphinx
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how is it an overcharge

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every bv knob or cws knob wants one

grave kelp
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im poor so im coping

rancid sluice
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thats just populartity tax. its not overcharging if ppl are willing to pay for it

opaque sphinx
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run heist

reef dune
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finally, gosh

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took 20 more magic locks

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26*

spice pecan
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it's dirt cheap

opaque sphinx
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gz

grave kelp
spice pecan
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oh man, you are the exact audience those scalpers are trying to target xdd

tranquil umbra
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shaper influence can roll life on block as an explicit mod

spice pecan
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yeah

opaque sphinx
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the main reason u go synth is because the overall craft is easier

spice pecan
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i mean it is, yeah

limpid prairie
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issue here is that getting 3 max fire res + block life is too hard?

spice pecan
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but you can't fracture which sucks

tranquil umbra
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you can't frac with influence either

opaque sphinx
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u cant fracture regardless because life on block is a influ mod

spice pecan
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oh youre right

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i forgot about influence and frac

wheat sinew
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really inaccurate but am 0 veil exalt orbs (10 fights)/7 barya xd

grave kelp
opaque sphinx
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if u want a dogshit shield with only life on block u go shaper
if u want a good midrange shield u go synth
if u want bis its hunter shaper

spice pecan
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i mean yeah but shaper shield will get you through most things

tranquil umbra
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I feel like it's easier to craft influenced items with awakener orbs since you get to abuse beast lock

opaque sphinx
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not that one

tranquil umbra
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I mean not that one speficially yeah

still needle
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hello, is there a min depth requirement for crystal spire in delve? i need that hollow fossil

spice pecan
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i once made a shield for... storm burst totems i think where I got both es on block AND +1 totems on an actually good shield

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shit was fire

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too bad that build wasnt block based kek

reef dune
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i'm settling 😭

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i have the worst luck filling suffixes on reforges

opaque sphinx
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shaper ex forces +1 totem on full suff

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then u just reforge def till decent

spice pecan
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yeah i know about +1 totem forcing

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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i am our resident totem expert after all

opaque sphinx
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80% of the time i join a hideout i just crash to login

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taken me longer to buy 5 BP than it took to run 10 contracts kek

dusk rune
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Guys which build should i do: fubgun bv, lance charge stacker, aero ek or jiquani spark?

opaque sphinx
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what ur budget

spice pecan
dusk rune
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3k divs ish

opaque sphinx
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what content do u wanna do

dusk rune
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All types of content but i guess breach or something

regal silo
opaque sphinx
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jiquani

reef dune
short prairie
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how do i fix this

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help

spice pecan
short prairie
spice pecan
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why do you have more chaos res than cold res

opaque sphinx
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bv boring af but nutty damage
lance u can maybe get together for 3k div, maybe
aero ek is very particular, lots of specific parts and not super tanky
jiquani is best of all
10/10 mapper
tank af
fast
good bossing if not as good as bv

drowsy eagle
tranquil umbra
spice pecan
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also what are you playing

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is that exsang mana RF or something

short prairie
reef dune
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i'm glad i did

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thank you

short prairie
sage falcon
spice pecan
sage falcon
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also thats a weird looking taming

short prairie
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i used to have taiming

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prob gonna swap back to taiming

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to fix res

drowsy eagle
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just run triple purity

sage falcon
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laugh at this man, he presumably gets hit sometimes so he needs res

sage falcon
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can gauntlet just start alread

tranquil umbra
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no

cosmic eagle
sage falcon
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im gonna be a lot more busy next week

short prairie
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UHM the story waas... i entered a map and got one shot 5 times

gritty garnet
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yeah I need to practice levelling to 2

cosmic eagle
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nice orange build senses susge

short prairie
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and then finally realized i have neg res

sage falcon
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bens real lucky im gonna be busy

drowsy eagle
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yeah give him a chance

cosmic eagle
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ill pob my new build for gauntlet, ruin stacking

short prairie
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is there a build where you stack up to 7000x3d ruins without being killed instantly?

cosmic eagle
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ruin stacking deadeye will conquer gauntlet and let ben know who's the real boss in this community

short prairie
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now i know how they get res

latent patio
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is servers good?

cosmic eagle
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just get mb from the tree 5Head

split maple
short prairie
latent patio
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failed to connect to instance, what is happening right now

short prairie
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this is the first time ever having both MB and HH in SSF at the same time

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never this lucky

cosmic eagle
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i will curse you till next league

short prairie
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mirage league is insane

cosmic eagle
short prairie
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especially after getting 2 wokers back to back after 4 siruses

split maple
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Now just wait for the pain that is having to swap a belt between 3 chars

short prairie
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did only 6 siruses total

split maple
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This isnt

short prairie
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my luck is back BABY!

cosmic eagle
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im gonna try 4 voidstones later
if quin can do it in hc, i can do it too Fightme

fringe ermine
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how do I search for inscribed ultimatums?

full kraken
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jesus, true heist runner is back on the menu again, stronger than ever before

cosmic eagle
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senses go back to hc and give your scarabs Stare

full kraken
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at the mere cost of ~240 divines lol

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actually being able to have non trivial max life, 98%+ block chance, but also surpassing 1000% movespeed

short prairie
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if you want me gears sure

full kraken
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and only 1 button to click, viper strike

harsh crypt
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I am getting disconnected when i try to teleport to Monastery Of Keepers or Kingsmarsch. Has someone else this issue or maybe knows how to "fix" it?

prime needle
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tfw you just hit 4x

full kraken
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pretty solid duration on the self chill too

short prairie
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UHM whys ben always slamming

prime needle
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about 10% hit rate on pinpoint with 1.5d per run

cosmic eagle
short prairie
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i still dont have shield but you do!

fringe ermine
short prairie
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im jelous

tranquil umbra
cosmic eagle
short prairie
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im pretty musch done with sushi hc

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just wanted the raffle kekw

cosmic eagle
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crown too hot in hc, all 4 people who killed oobas uses bob smite sadd

short prairie
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whos bob

ebon hatch
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what’s the optimal way to scale voidforge? phys attack or ele damage?

cosmic eagle
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1 of the ooba killer in hc

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that's the bob build