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spice pecan
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i wish there was a good way to counter -max tbh

worldly bridge
timid sapphire
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bro fubgun does every map on baby budget gear

opaque sphinx
worldly bridge
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"thorns" is such a joke

timid sapphire
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he doesnt even check any map modes

worldly bridge
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you can tell its a carryover from d2

opaque sphinx
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i wanted to make christmas tree slayer fk that i guess

shrewd fiber
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is there a site that tracks currencies and their value over time?

opaque sphinx
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ninja

worldly bridge
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not important to the convo i just love how shitty "thorns" is

timid sapphire
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proplays does every map mod with no issues too on kb hh

opaque sphinx
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when we get foulborn frenzy version of romira pls

timid sapphire
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i could invest 10-20-30 more mirrors intho my char and still not be able to do -max maps with a few damage mods ...

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while hh chars do it on 2 mirr budget 😔

opaque sphinx
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wait i can just use badge and stack powers

timid sapphire
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so yea str stack is mid

timid sapphire
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u either go hh pilled or u die

timid sapphire
kindred silo
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cant u just play hh in str stack

timid sapphire
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  • beyond
worldly bridge
timid sapphire
kindred silo
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y?

timid sapphire
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mapping is so lame low key im going back to hideout next league

livid quarry
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bc str stack sucks

kindred silo
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u should have good enough dmg so may as well get the defefnse from hh

timid sapphire
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whgy am i forced to play hh build

opaque sphinx
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mad

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can u only get max power on sceptres or smth

timid sapphire
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and never bricks a single map

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with off screen clear

worldly bridge
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:<

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its just like that

livid quarry
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i dunno man still doing atlas

timid sapphire
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i just think its a dumb belt

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and only reason we have dumb mods

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is cuz of a dumb belt

livid quarry
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yea

worldly bridge
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mmmmm

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i dont think so?

livid quarry
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thats how i did t17 with flicker when it was at its hardest

short berry
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I'm completely new to this game is there any beginner guide ?

worldly bridge
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i dont know the history of map mods personally but i feel like the dangerous map mods existed BECAUSE of headhunter

livid quarry
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and still why i dunno how the bosses work

timid sapphire
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melee builds can low key do it

worldly bridge
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maybe the devs woud use HH as an excuse if you were to ask them nowadays

timid sapphire
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but they have shit clear

opaque sphinx
timid sapphire
opaque sphinx
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or ee glad

high spoke
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shroud walker sucks ass and i hate it with all my heart

opal ingot
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gius

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guys

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what name of jewel that lets you allocate anything in a radius from ak eystone

timid sapphire
opal ingot
opaque sphinx
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how

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it survived that before

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it lost maybe 30% max es and some dmg

livid quarry
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if u r thankful kill maven for me

timid sapphire
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yea melee trickster builds did it that went full tank

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u want off screen clear for breach

opaque sphinx
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ah gl w/ that

surreal mulch
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the game is crashing every single map now very cool

opal ingot
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cmon bro it doesn't even reach

opaque sphinx
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yurp

opal ingot
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15c garbage

timid sapphire
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thats my point

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a 2 mirror kb char with hh and phys wand

worldly bridge
timid sapphire
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will do maps better than any non hh build ingame

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no matter how much u invest

opaque sphinx
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damn man pretty much every single ambi user is a stacker

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str stack

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life stack

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es stack

worldly bridge
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insert ruetoo "stacker" build rant

uneven gust
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Acc stack

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Mana stack

worldly bridge
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thank you kingsmarch

shrewd fiber
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do delerium mobs just not drop ground loot? or is it just really bad, why does no one scale it up

hazy flint
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anny1 plyed this league ?

high spoke
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i miss big feet stack

opaque sphinx
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no ur the only dude to log in the whole leaguye

high spoke
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make self curse great again

surreal mulch
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i just lvl4ed an enlighten

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first tiem

uneven gust
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Eww baitoos buiod

uneven gust
high spoke
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you have a video example?

livid quarry
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ping me when u about to kill

uneven gust
high spoke
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when did self curse ever use arc

worldly bridge
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mappers funny

worldly bridge
high spoke
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i'm lost and don't know what you're talking about

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mathil arc? looks super fun but that's not anything close to what i'm talking about

livid quarry
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yeah my ign is ligmabaals

dark kite
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blegh. kf hiero got dps but not enough chonk, cws chief got chonk but no dps. i think im gonna go back to box busting and save up for something new

icy swan
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this from 1 harvest, how to make it like twice ?

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and overal funny or maybe not funny but, i buoght expensiv map 40c with 80% pack sieze + 120qant ish fortres vs 120quant + 45 pack size
and with this smaller map o get more lifeforcee than with this bigger one xD
so i gues this pack size matter very little if anything

opaque sphinx
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i still dont get the point of thus

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rage is just better

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does it not trigger if its already active? that would be cool

livid quarry
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mayb its strong when u r poor and low dps

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i find that i trigger it when boss about to die anyway

opaque sphinx
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yeh idk seems bad

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is there way to convert the other 1/3rd for all

burnt goblet
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how do people put catalysts and crafted modifiers on reflecting mist items? i dont understand how they get the -100 resist other than reflecting mist

opaque sphinx
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what

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u put them on and then mist it

burnt goblet
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oh and then it randomly flips some modifiers to negative

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idk i've never used one i've only ever seen the ones that spawn

opal ingot
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wow thanks locus temple

opaque sphinx
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the consumable is same thing u just choose the item to use it on

finite quail
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reflecting mists in map rarely drop themselves as an item

opaque sphinx
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and then u get b oth copies

finite quail
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they are very expensive

burnt goblet
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i see, thanks

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so this person just left it 5mod without crafting on it i guess

opaque sphinx
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depends item

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helical etc can only have 5 mod

burnt goblet
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nah it's a bone ring

opaque sphinx
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does it say its catalysted?

burnt goblet
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yeah

opaque sphinx
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oh then thats just weird

remote sparrow
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So I have a skill I am scaling that has 1052% effectiveness of added damage per cast so Obs I want to go mana stacker for a ton of flat damage, my issue is that makes the mana cost SO high. Anyone know a good tech to lower that?

finite quail
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foulborn kalisas grace

livid quarry
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is this two different maps?

finite quail
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yes

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you can do either shaper and elder

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or uber elder

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either way gets you the voidstone

worldly bridge
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yooo sick natrual drop

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the listings for ilvl 85 leviathan with 54 frac str is 4 div

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ig i list high then go lower

spice pecan
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anyone know if galvanic arrow is playable

rancid sluice
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i havent evenb heard about galv arrow since bruce lee died

remote sparrow
remote sparrow
worldly bridge
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because some of them are from days ago and some are from recently, but theyre all different prices

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ill wait a day

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and if it doesnt sell ill drop

crystal pendant
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Guys I have a question regarding Astrolabes:

Does it make sense to not fulfill the condition on your last map run so that you can keep using the astrolabe roll that you have?

icy swan
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yeah this breaches suck balls very very hard i did get nothing

remote sparrow
clear garden
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What is a good ambush map in the upper left area?

worldly bridge
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im sitting on like 90 something rn

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been farming for a while

remote sparrow
crystal pendant
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Guys I have a question regarding Astrolabes:

Does it make sense to not fulfill the condition on your last map run so that you can keep using the astrolabe roll that you have?

remote sparrow
slow sonnet
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Can the Genesis Tree make weapons?

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As in rare weapons

remote sparrow
# icy swan

Yah that looks sucks wtf you are juiced near to your gills tf

icy swan
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and scrabs that fub used

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what else

remote sparrow
# icy swan

Could be an outlier but idk, I usually get around 2-3 div a map when I was using that breach tech UHM

icy swan
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idk did get nothing

rancid sluice
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its called rng

icy swan
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i dont think so, 2nd map like that and get nothing

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at beingng i get 2 d, then 1d, then 3 maps nothing

rancid sluice
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5 maps ppl shut it down strat doesnt work

remote sparrow
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Yah could just be a bad map run like 10 and check? But also what ur atlas? Whats your map effect / scarbs

tough cove
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that was removed in this league

icy swan
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alos tree similar to his

remote sparrow
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I was on low end of map jucing and still got like 1-3 divs a map could just be unlucky idk

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Also do you have any rarity on gear?

rancid sluice
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trying to match a streamer kek

icy swan
remote sparrow
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Also if your doing breach where are your womb gifts

tough cove
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^\

remote sparrow
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They sell for like 3c for even shit ones

worldly bridge
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hah

tough cove
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ancients/lavishs are a huge part of your profitability

worldly bridge
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1-3 divines value per map is great

jagged raven
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what do people sacrifice for +1 ring slot generally?

opaque sphinx
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util

spice pecan
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does anyone know if empy has been streaming/playing at all

tough cove
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util + shrine belt

spice pecan
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just noticed he hasnt uploaded in a week

jagged raven
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but flasks r really important right

tough cove
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easiest sacrifice ever since shrine belt is so good

remote sparrow
opaque sphinx
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if ur build does not use shrine belt or specialize in stacking the 3rd ring is generally not good

worldly bridge
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so you cna go shrine belt

spice pecan
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its always flasks

spice pecan
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anyone who sacs belt or ammy for extra ring is nuts

worldly bridge
final owl
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man. namharim sucks.

jagged raven
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no wonder those belts r expensive

worldly bridge
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maybe they have secret tech

remote sparrow
tough cove
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i mean even without the extra ring the belts are nuts

high spoke
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i mean i would drop belt in a sec if i got accel/echo plus res belt

tough cove
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auto crit opens up so many builds

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accel shrine is mageblood speed on steriods

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resist shrine dunks on pretty much every rare belt

heavy charm
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Anyone familiar Breach Fortress mechanic? Is there a way to block the pulse damage?

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like is there's wall to hide behind before it pulse deal daamge?

icy swan
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dog shit strat i gues

heavy charm
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like sometime I didn't get damage by the pulse, i'm not sure how or why

remote sparrow
high spoke
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spell/attack block?

remote sparrow
high spoke
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the pulses dont really do much dmg

tough cove
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the thing is alot of ascendancies the 7th/8th point arent that great

hushed needle
icy swan
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one

pliant hamlet
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sometimes I hate rolling clusters. I was looking for 35%/chaos res. hit this instead. alt aug regal exalt. lol

hushed needle
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you should try multiple your atlas has scaling for multiple no?

tough cove
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scarab has scaling for m ultiple

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atlas doesnt

icy swan
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then this dog shit be like blight and my pc wil die wilth miliard mobs

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so can not i gues

remote sparrow
# icy swan i told u 5

Didn't see mmm 5 is not a large sample size? Maybe double check your filter and add all wombgfts to it and run a couple more and check but maybe your just mega unlucky but should be dropping a ton of loot

high spoke
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@icy swan are you using deli orbs?

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he also changed his tree again today

slow sonnet
icy swan
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but amybe wrong one

remote sparrow
icy swan
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he said whatever one

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i know thers curency one or something

remote sparrow
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Nah that wont effect it

high spoke
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currency orbs are worth the cost

hushed needle
remote sparrow
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You just want the inherent % inc quantity that delirious gives

icy swan
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but harvest is consistent

hushed needle
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you dont want hives

remote sparrow
high spoke
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i run breach and i never thought it felt bad

hushed needle
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take out the top section of these two

high spoke
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always get at least one tink a map

rancid sluice
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3 contain 2 bloodline 2 fortunate not a bad map at all

remote sparrow
jagged raven
high spoke
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16.5? i haven't run t16 8 mod in a while

full kraken
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20div from what if not those

high spoke
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you can self sustain 16.5 with juiced breach

icy swan
spice pecan
remote sparrow
hushed needle
high spoke
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@icy swan what scarabs are you using?

remote sparrow
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But you can scale the shrine effect to get more than 40% aoe / effect

high spoke
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astrolabe isn't necessary but very nice if you can handle the extra mods

rancid sluice
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if any of you are from alaska i have snow to sell you

icy swan
jagged raven
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omg i just checked echoing and its more expensive than mageblood 4flask what!

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massive also sounds good

icy swan
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like fub vid

hushed needle
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those are fub's atlas's for his strats

high spoke
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and you're not making any money?

jagged raven
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i love breach but it drops fps like hell

full kraken
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Resist shrine belt is only like 11div, interesting

jagged raven
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although i never ever get good anything from breach

rancid sluice
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blight has something to say about fps

jagged raven
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how much resist it gives?

full kraken
jagged raven
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damn

high spoke
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i never once thought i was losing money juicing breach. it just drops tons of everything. the only thing that stops me is how much more can i juice with my build.

jagged raven
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icl chaos or excluding chaos?

spice pecan
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what is icl

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include?

jagged raven
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yes

high spoke
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ing

jagged raven
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xD

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inc :)

rancid sluice
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PSA be careful about ppl with half a build half a strat complaining about drops

icy swan
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hard to get this delerium to maps

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all with curency are corupted ones

livid quarry
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clicking it doesnt work

fossil mural
high spoke
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wait are you running breach on nightmare maps?

opal ingot
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this on the shrine belt pls ty

fossil mural
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all cheap ones with currency

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are corrupted

tough cove
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i really want to know why these bosses dont want to drop my voidstone properly

drowsy eagle
icy swan
remote sparrow
high spoke
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@icy swan are you running breach on nightmare maps?!

remote sparrow
icy swan
high spoke
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or is this some other strat

remote sparrow
full kraken
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Maybe I just go shrine stacking on my kf no flask build

high spoke
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do not run breach on nightmare. they have terrible layout

icy swan
high spoke
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and the breaches on nightmare will have less than half the mobs

halcyon prawn
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u can get 2 astrolabes from an incarnation fight? it was 2x templar so it may only be that one

remote sparrow
remote sparrow
full kraken
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Yeh, capped res with blunderbore and gull

icy swan
full kraken
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Can get 100% chaos res from golden rule

icy swan
full kraken
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And you'd get so much life from blunderbore

hexed egret
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Fucking lmao

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I went to eat lunch after killing him

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he's really upset I'm around

spice pecan
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they should make him a hideout decoration

hexed egret
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Bro that's kinda horrible of you to say that

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Bro's a head on a stick

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and you want to make him deco

spice pecan
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you're damn right

finite quail
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hideout deco and he never shuts the fuck up

remote sparrow
remote sparrow
icy swan
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so how do u roll this map

ebon hatch
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do i need to spec breach on my atlas if im using breach astrolabe or no? same question about scarabs… i don’t understand how these interact with one another

icy swan
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or maybe this ultimatom/simulatum also can get tnos divs per hour ?
or any other strategy that dont have miliard mobs and is brain dead chill xD

finite quail
icy swan
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just boght

finite quail
fossil mural
livid quarry
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how do i fight incarnation of dread i tired to buy but he told me i need to do questline

fossil mural
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if you want 110quant 150currency map it has to be corrupted

livid quarry
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fck i feel like it takes more time to get voidstone now

ebon hatch
opaque sphinx
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takes a ton more

icy swan
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then high currency vs 60% delerium with worse stats ?

opaque sphinx
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im still using my day 3 gear and can do 6 mod feareds

livid quarry
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lol i switched to flicker

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was too pain

icy swan
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also can u select filter to not see nightmare maps ? i see 90% of those

fossil mural
opaque sphinx
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smh

livid quarry
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guess i can use a strike skill

icy swan
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so sadly theres not even one nightmare t17 map open like dune

livid quarry
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well im actually killing pinnacles as flicker

vocal bridge
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my best strongbox yet wtf

opaque sphinx
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usually pinnacle i find arent that much issue besides sirus/maven

ebon hatch
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flicker: if you don’t die - you don’t die, if you die - you die

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flicker funni

opaque sphinx
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on flicker

fossil mural
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uber exarch you need to be really tanky

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to either live the meatballs

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or the dude

livid quarry
fossil mural
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during meatballs

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or just oneshot them ig

livid quarry
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6 portals and glass cannon

opaque sphinx
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nah u can just nuke him and dodge meatball

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no harder than on any other build tbh

ebon hatch
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the only thing I fear as flicker is invulnerable phases

icy swan
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i liked strongbox too i gues

fossil mural
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you cant really hit the dude

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because youll just die

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to slam or to balls

opaque sphinx
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valid but im assuming if ur attempting to do uber exarch then u have the dmg

ebon hatch
median kite
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Im a first time player and im trying to get the maven voidstone and I genuinely feel like breaking my monitor

opaque sphinx
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otherwise why

remote sparrow
median kite
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I platinumed elden ring sekiro and dark souls 3 btw shes genuinely built different

fossil mural
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just to put into perspective

jagged raven
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is map farming still a farming stat?

fossil mural
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sure

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8mods arent useless

median kite
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Its the damage puddles things first and foremost

opaque sphinx
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those ok

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run in circle till brain spawns

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let orbs chase u off the ring

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in the waiting room

livid quarry
fossil mural
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if you dont need to stand next to the brain to do damage

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drop them in the middle

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if you have the damage then go into side rooms

opaque sphinx
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if there's no waiting room phase cuz ur taking too long due to dmg, u need to focus on dropping them in middle and stacking them

fossil mural
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otherwise stack them in one place at the edge

icy swan
median kite
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People say to stack them in one place but that means tanking the first pool for some time which I can do with a flask IF I dont get hit by literally anything else which is unrealistic

opaque sphinx
fossil mural
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lmao

median kite
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I think im a bit weak build wise for maven just yet but the invites are cheap so I had to try lol

icy swan
opaque sphinx
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bruh how

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u literally enter map kill harvest do mirage and dip

median kite
rose quail
icy swan
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becase this expensicvce 80c scrab,
without it last leage like 25-27 maps i coudl do, but u do have this 2nd harvest
so u do it twice now

fossil mural
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if you get hit by anything else

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leech

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especially on slayer with overleech

opaque sphinx
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do u have worm flask

drowsy eagle
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I love defiance of destiny so much

opaque sphinx
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that is question 1

icy swan
opaque sphinx
fossil mural
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doing altars is bait

opaque sphinx
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sure lets triple our map time for 10% more loot

fossil mural
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its potentially good if you get the divine shrine

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but thats like

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cope

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other people get it

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you wont ever get it

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the actual weights

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are abysmal

opaque sphinx
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i usually get 1 per league

rose quail
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You put the altars for mob count

opaque sphinx
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last league i got 2 but played a lot

icy swan
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i mean this

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whatever cold

opaque sphinx
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yes\

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stop clicking them

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waste of time

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do harvest

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do mirage

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dip

icy swan
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might be

fossil mural
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yea insert sac frags instead

next drum
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why the hell

median kite
next drum
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new belt

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are like

opaque sphinx
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its not might

next drum
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1 mirror??

opaque sphinx
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it is \

icy swan
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bh i didnt seen difrence if i gest a lot quantity and diding get

next drum
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price fixers?

icy swan
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xD

spice pecan
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it's okay to do mirage before the harvest if the mirage shows up first right

next drum
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ain't no way the belt going that crazy

spice pecan
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for harvest

next drum
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i know it free crit

next drum
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but jeezus

jagged raven
fossil mural
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so you spend less time

opaque sphinx
drowsy eagle
icy swan
opaque sphinx
drowsy eagle
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the maps are like 30% of the money btw

jagged raven
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bosses drop maps?

fossil mural
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miraged maps

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yes

next drum
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i thought new mirage can easily fix the ground loots issue

jagged raven
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oh how much per run cost?

fossil mural
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not much tbh

drowsy eagle
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~100c

next drum
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hmm

fossil mural
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you just need good damage

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to actually kill the bosses

opaque sphinx
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but yeah morale of the story for harvest
eater > exarch for more quant
but also just skip altars cuz u triple ur time in a map for 10% more loot

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if it takes u 6 mins to do a map with altars but u get 110% loot thats astronomically worse than doing 3 maps in 6 mins and getting 300% loot

drowsy eagle
median kite
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This chat is communicating in Harbingers language to me rn

rose quail
icy swan
# opaque sphinx the odds of hitting good one are stupid low

im curious if its worth to use this 90c srab to get tier 4 seed
becasue thoses boses are very annoing and droping only 1k lifestones.
and its the biggest cost for harvest... also sometiems its big rip - like one colours and same plat so u get only one tier 4 seed

reef dune
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i'm gonna duplicate so hard

opaque sphinx
opaque sphinx
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i posted my strat last nmight

median kite
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I dropped the 3.something divine orb thing from the Elder today and was very very happy and contented

next drum
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it's saying like mageblood is trash now

opaque sphinx
next drum
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<.<

opaque sphinx
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scarabs are all 3 harvest scarab + 2 sac frags

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8 mod t16

next drum
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also, what are we using chaos on?

opaque sphinx
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use fruit astrolab

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click mesa

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done

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thats it

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thats the whole strat

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i make 1.5d profit per map

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minimum

rose quail
next drum
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ah

icy swan
opaque sphinx
opal ingot
opaque sphinx
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the keystone at top of tree removes a dif map from the region when u do mesa

opaque sphinx
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probably

tawdry olive
remote sparrow
opal ingot
opaque sphinx
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its .2c for harv scarab i never bothered to look it up lmao

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damn true

tawdry olive
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I’m actually quite grateful this belt exists to depress the price of mageblood lmao

opaque sphinx
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it doesnt even tbh

spice pecan
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it doesnt

opaque sphinx
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mb is same price as always

spice pecan
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megabald is still 160d for a 4flask

median kite
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Btw whats better to run breach or harvest if i dont quite understand all these juicing strats etc

tawdry olive
#

Hey this time last league it was 200+d

#

I know because ei bought one

opaque sphinx
remote sparrow
#

Yea its bit cheaper for MB now lol

opaque sphinx
#

do that

#

make 1.5d per map

#

enjoy

median kite
#

And if breach should I choose only hives or only unstable

remote sparrow
opaque sphinx
#

spend 100c per map, make back almost 2d in juice every single time

tawdry olive
#

Also the certainty that the belt exists to control mb prices means I can go buy/craft the other stuff first, like perfect simplex

icy swan
remote sparrow
#

Yea watch ppl ID belts you do NOT make money lol its such a bad gamble

median kite
rose quail
opaque sphinx
#

is slightly lower than avg returns from 1 map using this setup

median kite
#

I die once every 3 maps LOL

remote sparrow
#

Like some guy id 500 belts lost 1500div in value

tardy rampart
#

L,MDGAG

#

OMJGGGSADGº

finite quail
#

gah dam

median kite
tardy rampart
#

IM TWEAKING GUYS

opaque sphinx
tardy rampart
#

I PICKED IT

icy swan
opaque sphinx
#

quant wheel/eater stuff/deli

remote sparrow
finite quail
opaque sphinx
remote sparrow
#

Change zones bank it then relog

ebon hatch
#

maybe next league people will be more aware of this new belt and it can actually rival mb on the market, but this league is learned this belt exists only after getting my mb

junior otter
#

Anybody else have issues this patch with bearer visual effects not appearing

tardy rampart
#

first mirror omfg

spice pecan
#

put that shit in stash NOW

#

before you get rolled back

opaque sphinx
#

its just impossible to get a good one

remote sparrow
fossil mural
#

Playing with fire are we

final owl
#

i just did a fruiting astrolabe. godamn juiced harvest bosses are brutally chonky. even with ~33/50m reap dps, painfully slow

median kite
spice pecan
#

brother i am doing like 3m dps after 5 second ramp

#

namharim takes 30 business days to kill

opaque sphinx
#

wtf

fossil mural
opaque sphinx
#

why ur deeps so low

rose quail
spice pecan
#

im playing bloodsoaked banners for harvest rn

#

because its impossible to die

opaque sphinx
#

tf

#

evis glad

spice pecan
#

no

opaque sphinx
#

also impossible to die

spice pecan
#

retal builds are ass

tawdry olive
# opaque sphinx its just impossible to get a good one

Yea as it is now if you want the belt to just straight up replace mageblood you gotta get resistance + some other offensive god roll. It’s just not realistic. Without that mageblood is still better except for some cases like a build needing diamond to crit

opaque sphinx
#

better than doing 3m dps

spice pecan
#

and also i like the crackhead movement speed of banners

fossil mural
#

Just play minion pact

opaque sphinx
#

ur literally standing still in harvest

fossil mural
spice pecan
#

im aware

#

but i play other content on this build too

final owl
#

I mean, i guess i made maybe 12d worth of juice from the astrolabe run, spent a few on cornucopia i guess. but idk that i wanna do that again :I

opaque sphinx
#

valid

#

also minion pact is stupid

#

and 200% getting gutted

spice pecan
#

does minion pact tech work on things that dont hit

fossil mural
#

No

spice pecan
#

fuark...

livid quarry
final owl
#

also the astrolabe rewards were terriballs :I

fossil mural
#

But you dont need to play cf

ebon hatch
spice pecan
fossil mural
spice pecan
#

they fuck with the bsb corrupted blood stacks

fossil mural
fossil mural
#

Its not nerfed

#

Why would it be late

#

😩

ebon hatch
fossil mural
#

And

opaque sphinx
#

is feared profit if u dont uber

fossil mural
#

But what profit? Couldnt tell yea

finite quail
ebon hatch
opaque sphinx
#

wym obviously some leagues it sucks ass unless u uber everything

fossil mural
#

Splinters are dogshit

#

And you cant drop woke gems

opaque sphinx
#

oh yeah

#

whack

fossil mural
#

Like ever

opaque sphinx
#

ya huh

jagged raven
#

whos guide do i follow for expensive harvest farming?

finite quail
#

now you just cornucopia

jagged raven
#

harvest rota dead right?

finite quail
#

or regular harvest farm

opaque sphinx
#

actually since they added sirus to it im pretty sure its almost impossible to lose money farming it

fossil mural
#

Seen okay results

finite quail
#

crop rotation is dead now

opaque sphinx
#

yeh cropa rota kinda bad

jagged raven
#

ohhh

finite quail
#

in comparison to before

#

since no awakening scarab for it

#

no imbued harvest

opaque sphinx
#

that + it fucks with mirage

tawdry olive
#

I’m actually thinking no cornucopia might be comparable purely because you run almost double maps in the same time and have lower cost

fossil mural
#

It cant spawn the new mob

#

Thats just so bad

opaque sphinx
#

u get no rancours with crop rota

finite quail
#

oh fuck

tawdry olive
#

And crop rotation without the scarab is fine, what makes it dead is mirage harvest

tawdry olive
#

It’s free juice

#

A lot of it

icy swan
fossil mural
#

Its so fucking stupid

opaque sphinx
#

if he's not swapping phases its cuz ur too close to wall

jagged raven
#

might try harvest but not sure whos guide to follow

opaque sphinx
#

harvest boss needs a little room to turn into totem

fossil mural
#

Dont fight ibraghim next to a wall or stairs

opaque sphinx
#

walk away from wall and they shift insta if hp low enough

icy swan
#

but usualy im trying go on center or something

opaque sphinx
#

yeh its not an exact science poe is buggy mess

#

just i find thats the issue

median kite
#

I hate the infinite hunger boss with his nonsensical tentacle trail attack

tough cove
#

worst boss in teh game

#

annoying, drops awful loot

#

and has the worst invul phase of any boss in teh game

median kite
#

walk into him so he jumps out
sike ho take the damage
Respawn in hideout

opaque sphinx
#

usually how it goes

spice pecan
#

idk i hate sirus more than infinite hunger

opaque sphinx
#

sirus actually has loot tho

spice pecan
#

a pixel of my fingernail clipped deatomization storm? guess i'm just dead

tough cove
#

sirius, though annoying, at least can potentially reward me for my annoyance

spice pecan
#

also on sirus you can't fucking see anything

finite quail
#

widescreenge

median kite
#

Should I aim to kill him or maven first just for sense of completion

#

Who's harder

tough cove
#

maven is easier

opaque sphinx
#

sirus harder

median kite
#

Oh god

tough cove
#

sirius is technically easier, but the arena makes the fight super annoying if you arent experienced with it

spice pecan
#

maven easier than eater

#

tbh

opaque sphinx
#

outside of memory game maven is generally the easiest boss

finite quail
spice pecan
#

yeah, she has zero hp

rose quail
#

As RF andy I just hate any boss that disables recovery

tough cove
#

maven just annoys me because of the stupid anti regen beams since i play almost exclusively close range melee builds

#

but tahts a me issue

rose quail
#

I want GGG to put in a boss that puts up a shield that reflects all your spells and projs back to you that doesn't count as reflect just to finally F with range too

spice pecan
#

stop giving them ideas

median kite
#

I struggled a lot with the fire incarnation thing, my whole arena was covered in those bum ass orbs

tough cove
#

i can hear the screeching on reddit from here

crisp plinth
#

or a boss that just reverse unos dots

tranquil sedge
#

oo
dam

livid quarry
#

doing eagon questline makes me want to paly e33

tranquil sedge
#

reliquarian flicker 😮

median kite
tough cove
#

the irony is that fulcrum builds still wouldnt care about the uno reverso dot boss

ebon hatch
#

btw did they ever touch the cortex boss? why is it so squishy now? died in a second, only 10mil dps

finite quail
rose quail
#

It's just every time I do a new boss released by GGG I'm either "This is cool and fine" or "This extremely punishes only meelee again huh?"

tough cove
#

all the older bosses are like that

opaque sphinx
#

yes melee has less windows to do dmg

#

but also yes melee does more dmg

#

and is much tankier

tough cove
#

well now that they nuked ES

opaque sphinx
#

bro the es stacker builds were melee

spice pecan
#

i think int stackers are fine

tough cove
#

Some of them were

spice pecan
#

and ppl are turbodooming

opaque sphinx
#

90%

tough cove
#

Last league tehy were mainly melee cause of the claws

rose quail
opaque sphinx
#

no

#

they are generally melee

#

cuz EE

spice pecan
#

nah int stack has been mostly melee for a while

opaque sphinx
#

int stack wander has been the least popular int stacker for like 5 leagues

#

every one is melee

spice pecan
#

yeah, way more wanders are str stackers

tough cove
#

im now at the debate mode whether soul ascension beats my regular gloves

#

enmity makes figuring stuff out so hard

#

(especially since POB does not like the volatile version for calcs)

median kite
#

I checked the version history and now im wondering when is the new expansion with new atlas bosses and stuff is going to be

#

Eagon's questline had me unorincally listen and pay attention to ebery dialogue and readable

opaque sphinx
#

eater i actually think is easier on melee cuz u can usually tank the tentacles where ranged cant

spice pecan
tough cove
#

no we got 3 with the one after settlers

spice pecan
#

sorry i meant before 3.26

opaque sphinx
#

i dont count those

rose quail
# opaque sphinx even exarch and eater i dont notice a dif on

Eater has huge diff especially because of the balls. Like end game builds it doesnt matter for anything because just nuke but the regular mechanic can make zone of denial so that you have no dps window. They fixed it some patches ago so that he jumps a bit more afaik

spice pecan
#

and yeah until they change the naming scheme i dont count those either

icy swan
#

@opaque sphinx what maps u got expensiv high pac qnat, or cheap 3-5c ones ?

tough cove
#

The barya fight was giga disappointing

opaque sphinx
#

or use self farmed ones

icy swan
tough cove
#

rng be rng

opaque sphinx
#

yeh its not worth expensive shit

tough cove
#

my best map to date has been a alch/vaal t12 cause i got a doubled lock drop from a box

median kite
#

Idk if its purely my skill issue but with mechanics like exarch's ball phase the hardest thing for me is controlling my character's movement. Ever since I got the stampede I feel like a crackhead and cant dodge shit

opaque sphinx
#

this whole setup costs 100c per map and 90+ of that is the corn scarab

icy swan
tough cove
#

still pays for itself

opaque sphinx
#

yerp

tough cove
#

i still dont know why doublings got dirt cheap again

opaque sphinx
#

div is 270c ye

#

avg map is 10-12k juice with 6k+ of that being yellow

#

5.5k yellow is 1d

#

bare minimum u make 170c per map

tawdry olive
#

Once I get bored of boxes and breach I might breakout the spreadsheet for corn vs no corn div/h again

#

I’m pretty convinced if you run fast enough no corn is comparable

tough cove
#

box/breach is so satisifying though

opaque sphinx
#

corn is too good to not use

#

unless ur a like 100% pops build that cant do the bosses AT ALL

tawdry olive
#

Also lowers you entry cost to basically nothing so that factors in

icy swan
#

ok so will see new setup
alsot this astrolabe quite expenive 100c

opaque sphinx
#

its 100c but lasts 5-6 maps

#

so its like 20c/map

#

was 60c yesterday lol

tawdry olive
#

Wait that’s the astrolabe right

#

Not the corn scarab

#

You use the scarab every map

icy swan
#

is it only adding sacred grove to map and thats it ?

opaque sphinx
#

astro u use every 5-6 map

#

corn every map

tawdry olive
#

The astrolab is a given

#

Whether you corn or no corn

#

Must run it

#

Be just trolling otherwise

opaque sphinx
#

plant

gritty epoch
#

Imagine not using astrolabes Pogott

opaque sphinx
#

honestly i didnt notice much of a dif in loot with or without astro if ur using corn

#

but

#

the vault can be good

#

so no reason not to

rose quail
spice pecan
#

i'm never not using corn

#

S+ tier food

opaque sphinx
#

yeh its too good atm

spice pecan
#

oh you were talm bout cornucopia

opaque sphinx
#

bro i meant to do a feared like 20 mins ago

spice pecan
#

i meant corn the food

opaque sphinx
#

still makes me laugh its 24c for sirus

spice pecan
#

shit i havent done my feared either

finite quail
#

5 div, amelioration and a king in the mists from that ritual

spice pecan
#

too bad i cant be fucked to do even normal sirus

tawdry olive
finite quail
#

plus a div in reserve

spice pecan
#

it's like my favorite ingredient in my chipotle bowl besides the hot salsa

tawdry olive
#

Almost as good as rice, and coming from an Asian that means a lot

spice pecan
#

rice is #1 for me

opaque sphinx
#

wait no

#

dying sun

#

botle shit now

gritty epoch
slow sonnet
#

Corn is S tier

tough cove
#

i never will understand that

icy swan
#

what the hell is this

slow sonnet
#

I think the problem with melee is the fact that it stops you completely

tough cove
#

GGG has outright said that melee takes attack speed to feel good way back when before poe2 was even a thing

opaque sphinx
#

680c~ per feared atm

tawdry olive
slow sonnet
#

Even in ER you can move slightly when attacking

rose quail
gritty epoch
#

I don't use corn since astrolabes already gives some t4s

slow sonnet
#

I meant real corn, but sure

tough cove
#

rice > corn > wheat

spice pecan
#

when are they adding scarab of corn to poe

slow sonnet
#

True, rice can be made into anything

rose quail
opaque sphinx
#

5/7 with rice

tawdry olive
spice pecan
#

starches in general are just so banger

slow sonnet
icy swan
tardy rampart
#

guys if i have invert the rules having penetrate ele resists is bad right?

spice pecan
rose quail
tawdry olive
#

Exposure or lowering resists is bad

tough cove
#

i need to figure out if sulphite conversion to ore is worth skipping the quant wheel or not on my ore/box/breach atlas setup

gritty epoch
spice pecan
tawdry olive
#

It’s finicky you gotta pob and see what content you’re doing to know if it’s really better for you

drowsy eagle
tawdry olive
#

With invert vs exposure/lowered resists

spice pecan
#

I should pob adding invert into my build and removing my anathema setup

opal ingot
#

who's buying out the wisp ritual scarab lol

slow sonnet
worldly bridge
#

pretty cool

candid moon
#

In what food do you even use corn huh

spice pecan
worldly bridge
slow sonnet
#

I live in Mexico, the answer is yes

tawdry olive
# worldly bridge yo

Based jewel, it’s just I’m always playing socket starved builds that can’t squeeze it in

rose quail
#

I love corn porridge

tough cove
#

asian foods too

#

corn starch is a huge part of asian cooking

gritty epoch
#

Is tacos from corn too

fossil mural
slow sonnet
candid moon
#

The only time I consume corn is when doing tuna mayo onnion UHM

slow sonnet
#

Spears are ok because they have a bit of movement, but man, it feels BAD to be locked in place

tough cove
#

i put corn in most of my salads/soups

spice pecan
#

also corn chowder fucks

tough cove
#

yes

#

all chowders for tha tmatter

worldly bridge
#

to be honest

rose quail
icy swan
#

wit hthis guarnte harvest i dont know where to spend rest points on

tough cove
#

leek, corn, potato, clam, all amazing

spice pecan
icy swan
rose quail
#

Clam eeeeeh....

slow sonnet
tawdry olive
candid moon
#

I've tried to move with wasd multiple times this league start lol

slow sonnet
candid moon
#

Even though I only played 0.1

tough cove
#

clam when made fresh is amazing

#

canned doesnt do it justice

spice pecan
tawdry olive
#

Based, I love fish

rose quail
#

But it's not as versatile. Can't really express as much. I'm more of a white fish dude

worldly bridge
rose quail
#

Smoked fish with herbs is the sauce

finite quail
spice pecan
#

can't melee hits already sort of pseudo splash by default?

rose quail
#

They do

spice pecan
#

ive definitely hit more than one zombie at a time on the beach

finite quail
fossil mural
#

no?

#

lmao

finite quail
#

It used to NOT be a thing

#

you would hit ONE monster

#

no matter how big the strike or slash was

fossil mural
#

nvm I cant read

hazy wing
#

any easy way to delete these quest heist items but also not let them drop anymore in maps?

fossil mural
#

I read as "can" not cant

worldly fiber
#

yea melee splash was used in every melee build lul

spice pecan
worldly bridge
#

what the heck

short prairie
#

gave containment a try, got 2 containments back

fossil mural
worldly bridge
#

can someone explain this to me im losing my mind

finite quail
#

Thankfully I dont drop quest contracts because I havent spoken to anyone in heist KEK

worldly bridge
#

whyt are people buying ritual wisp scarab for 70-90c

hazy wing
finite quail
spice pecan
candid moon
short prairie
fossil mural
slow sonnet
#

All mappers quit their strat before finally dropping a mirror

short prairie
#

this is ssf can you imagine

tawdry olive
fossil mural
#

and a person is buying it all up

worldly fiber
slow sonnet
#

(Not) so secret strat I guess

proper zephyr
#

How good is ssf this league?

slow sonnet
#

Well breach can make nice items

fossil mural
proper zephyr
#

I haven’t played and I don’t know the league mechanic or anything

fossil mural
#

cant target farm improved offerings

#

other than that okay ig

slow sonnet
#

Exalts drop like candy

worldly bridge
#

well i listed 4 for 360, i guess ill see what happens when i wake up

slow sonnet
#

So crafting is easier I guess

cosmic raptor
#

need megabald

slow sonnet
#

Magebald

icy swan
#

47

tawdry olive
#

Megabonk

cosmic raptor
#

astrobald

fossil mural
finite quail
#

guess ggg forgot to remove mirage corpses from special rituals lol

finite quail
worldly bridge
#

what is that window

slow sonnet
worldly bridge
#

holy transmutes

fossil mural
#

slightlybald is worse

cosmic raptor
slow sonnet
#

Front bald ain't so bad, you gotta worry about balding from behind

fossil mural
worldly bridge
#

yippeeee

#

over 100d

cosmic raptor
#

i got scammed?

opaque sphinx
#

time to buy 2x unrequited

#

u won't

worldly bridge
#

is that a scam

opaque sphinx
finite quail
opaque sphinx
#

that jewel is disgusting for BV cheif and its king of the castle atm

steady otter
slow sonnet
#

Ok I'n dumb I don't get it? Are those mods BIS for DD or something?

opaque sphinx
#

no

#

minion pact cheif

#

with BV

slow sonnet
#

Ah

#

Still BIS I assume?

cosmic raptor
worldly bridge
opaque sphinx
#

uses 2x nebulis, enmity

#

and perf meatsack

worldly fiber
opal ingot
slow sonnet
opaque sphinx
#

stacks minion life to abuse ugged BV + min pact interaction

finite quail
#

time for zealots memory vault

slow sonnet
#

GL

odd spear
#

where can i activate this

cosmic raptor
#

any map

finite quail
#

well, 500m facetors is nice

slow sonnet
opaque sphinx
#

min pact kills minion to get % of its life as flat phys
meatsack many many life
BV is weird and as long as u keep refreshing blades and they never drop, u never have to sac another minion

steady otter
cosmic raptor
#

yes

opaque sphinx
#

which means bils dps

slow sonnet
#

The no body armor helm

cosmic raptor
slow sonnet
#

Whatsitcalled

finite quail
#

the bringer of rain

slow sonnet
#

Yeah

worldly bridge
#

well im gonna go get another 20 maps rolled

#

do i stay up and get to 100 tn?

worldly fiber
slow sonnet
#

Do people use it anymore?

steady otter
#

Urs also has good corruption, selling it at 4 div is a rickroll for urself anyway

slow sonnet
#

Or is it a relic of old PoE?

cosmic raptor
finite quail
slow sonnet
#

Maybe for glad?