1┃general

[drowsy eagle]

I can actually get block if ar/es

[onyx adder]

So back to the grind then

[tranquil sedge]

well you know what they say
a dodge a day keeps the doctor away
keep dodging

[proud gorge]

I think this ehit build is fine, it's just that its "earlygame" PoB is full of lies and a lot squishier than I'd like, and its "endgame" PoB is decently tanky but also heavily reliant on capping spell suppression via rares and also probably Mageblood

[steel light]

question: technically i can clear all the non unique maps by using map tier 1 right?

[proud gorge]

so I'll probably roll something else in the interim

[split maple]

huh how does arm/es benefit block there? just different tree pathing?

[drowsy eagle]

yeah pathing and I'm using staff

[hoary scarab]

no, the tier shown is the minimum tier you have to run

[royal topaz]

im starting to lose faith in frenzy stacking slayer builds in hc

[proud gorge]

nope, maps must be cleared by a map at their tier or higher

[steel light]

ok thanks

[tranquil sedge]

very vague statement you'll need to give more context
that doesn't mean much

[blissful garnet]

vs turbulent? Whats the difference gonna be, or will it enhance the flat ele damage the same

The wiki gives 0 information about how much it enhances anything

[wintry lily]

turn it into flicker and let god take the wheel

[royal topaz]

every single slayer that goes rightside is like 4k hp, 20k armour with flask and determ on, needs level 100 to fit the tree cause youre stretched so thin

[tranquil sedge]

quality is a multiplicative modifier, 20% qual = 1.2x mod value

[proud gorge]

but yeah, maybe I'll try manaman Archmage. It's a build that's been vaguely on my radar for a while, as a premiere example of the "tanky and also high damage and scales its damage off of its health pool" build subset, but I just haven't ended up playing an Archmage build until now

[blissful garnet]

so both of them are equal then for that purpose?

[proud gorge]

I briefly tried levelling one with BLO but man BLO BLOws

negative usability skill

[tranquil sedge]

for elemental damage attack prefixes? yes, sure, both would work

[tranquil sedge]

i want to double check my reply, im gonna do that.

[rose vault]

almost

[tranquil sedge]

coz i might be wrong about whether its turbulent or abrasive. so lemme check

[proud gorge]

I'm sure it's a strong skill, but man do I not want to have to stand directly on top of an enemy and spam an extremely short range spiralling projectile that sometimes just spins off into Narnia

for every single enemy in a map

[shrewd fiber]

what are some cheap / easy bosses to farm as a new bossing build?

[proud gorge]

Shaper

like, regular Shaper, is always a classic on leaguestart

if you're not ready for pinnacles, you can do Destructive Play Maven instead

[tranquil sedge]

okay @blissful garnet if its just the elemental damage prefixes on rings, then turbulent, abrasive, and sinstral would all work yes

if you had a second type of prefix (e.g life) that you also wanted to buff then you'd go sinstal instead

[proud gorge]

or elder guardian invitation rotations

guardian rotations are usually good, I'm not sure what the exact price of things is right now, but I'm sure at least one of the guardians is probably worthwhile running for Maven Invitations + boss fragment drops

usually Elder, people don't like the necessary waiting before the Elder guardian encounters

[shrewd fiber]

can you explain this a bit

[muted ledge]

Im getting so many vaal orbs i corrupted my own vaal cold snap in act 2 this is great

[proud gorge]

okay so you just buy Elder Guardian maps, then run through them towards the boss as fast as possible. Make sure you have Maven witnessing.

You kill the elder guardian, and grab the boss fragment it drops. Then you repeat for the other three elder guardians.

By the end of the four guardian maps, you have all four Elder boss fragments, plus a Maven invitation for the elder guardians

I forget what that one's called

you run the maven invitation for the elder guardians, which, when well rolled, will generally drop a bunch of maven fragments and also one or two elder fragments, plus some other miscelaneous loot

[hoary scarab]

should be no difference for 3 flat prefix rings i guess

[proud gorge]

then you just repeat, and sell the elder boss fragments on the market

[shrewd fiber]

ah i see

does my atlas matter?

[proud gorge]

like I said, it's dependent on the market, depends on the current price of elder guardian maps vs elder boss fragments

[hoary scarab]

we gotta burn the atlas

[long condor]

i got the worst gem implicit right?

don't you want curse to be low lvl?

[hoary scarab]

[long condor]

i only played FRoSS so maybe i'm thinking of that

[scenic anchor]

bruh the moment I encounter the updated breach mechanic the game crashes

[hoary scarab]

even for fross theres no reason to go low lvl curse

[proud gorge]

eh, not really. If you're just going for max speed boss rushing, you don't actually do anything in the map itself, just rush for the boss. However, for minor optimization you could take all the notables near the top of the tree that cause final map bosses to sometimes drop guardian maps of various sorts, plus anything else that causes map bosses to drop bonus loot.

[thick goblet]

most curses scale well with levels

[long condor]

back then there was a reason, you wanted it to go away very fast for the 3.26 ring i think

[hoary scarab]

ah you mean for selfcast

[proud gorge]

the elder guardians should be able to drop all the guardian maps

[shrewd fiber]

and the maps can be scoured right

[hoary scarab]

tbh, if you didnt just use your merc for the curse, you did something wrong

[long condor]

was for this sorry it's a hex mb

[hoary scarab]

hex's are most curses

[proud gorge]

so you can just grab the, like, Synth map drop rate, Shaper/Elder Guardian map drop rate, Conqueror map drop rate, notables

[royal topaz]

yea i need to stop playing right side melees in hc xdd

[proud gorge]

you could yeah, makes the boss easier

[royal topaz]

i cant find a single masterful form slayer pob that wont inevitably die to nonsense in a regular t16

[proud gorge]

again, though, I'm not sure what the economy of elder guardian map rushing is right now

[shrewd fiber]

ill look into it

[proud gorge]

but guardian map rushing is often profitable, you just need to check which set of guardians has the largest price disparity between maps vs fragments

especially since you get a free maven invitation every four maps

anyways, I've got 72c and also 2 div in my stash, time to roll a manaman

I'd rather not spend the 2 div smh

I know Shock Nova of Procession is getting a lot of play, but is it actually, like, good? As an archmage spell?

or is it just okay but has high playability

[final owl]

it looks kinda fun on cyclone / mjolnir. idk how good it is in any setup though tbh

[thick goblet]

damage is apparently mediocre but feels really smooth

[proud gorge]

ah, so okay but has high playability

interesting

[long condor]

idk i think the youtuber i got it from made the merc a debuff slave that was unkillable, with golem stack primordial bond made you unkillable too

[teal goblet]

Is there any way to get another mod on this

Or should I recomb it

[sour wadi]

i just love the million sources of slow, crippling, maiming, or whatever. grasping. action speed reduction. so many fun mechanics

i love not being able to fucking move on most content

[steel light]

u can't recomb corrupted/mirrored, and idk can jewel be recomb-able

[dense rock]

ignoring stuff that negates slow shit tends to result in that

[split maple]

slap tainted mythic or smh

[sour wadi]

yes because there are so many ways to negate action speed reduction lol.

[split maple]

tho most of crimson unique jewels aint that good

[teal goblet]

you mean tainted exalt?

[split maple]

no, taitned exalt needs rare item

[onyx adder]

thanks rog

[split maple]

tainted mythic has ~7% to change your jewel to unique jewel, otherwise poof it

[onyx adder]

getting a good +1 from rog is so rare

[noble sleet]

You think a 2 flask Mageblood is still better than most scream belts?

[split maple]

2flask mageblood is worse than rare often lol

[teal goblet]

Need tainted aug lol

[fossil mural]

bismuth+quicksilver

[surreal musk]

https://i.imgur.com/uIMKwWR.png

[wintry lily]

Not even close

[teal goblet]

or tainted regal

[wintry lily]

3 flask is like the make or break point where mageblood is good iirc

[storm venture]

hmm they still not fixed yet temporary minions deals no dmg

[wintry lily]

the only reason why 2 flask mageblood has any value is because you can divine it to 3/4

[dense rock]

"ill sacrifice entire item worth of stats to automate half of my flasks. YES THIS IS THE BIG BRAIN MOVE"

[noble sleet]

Damn wtf

[split maple]

it disables your other magic utility flasks you know

[wintry lily]

You'd basically be running 3 flasks at that point

[noble sleet]

Scream or mageblood?

[split maple]

so needs to be build that wants unique flasks or tinctures in other slots

mbloode

[noble sleet]

Ohh man okay I didn’t think it would be better than a generic scream lol.

[fossil mural]

the amount of magebloods with 1 or 2 magic flasks ive seen is way higher than youd think

[plush galleon]

fiting the first lvl 100 heiro is named god

[split maple]

and like if you want 2flask mageblood consider balbala instead

[wintry lily]

at that point just take balbala/tides of time lmao

[fossil mural]

you can do 3 reliably on any flasks I believe?

[split maple]

they make sense for sanctum builds while for mappers ig i could see case on warden, but other cases pretty much newbs prolly

[dense rock]

move only a true heretic would pull off 😄

[fossil mural]

at least when I did traitor coruscating I had 100% uptime on little investment with 3

[wintry lily]

the only other reason you'd use a 2 flask blood is that you minmaxed in a specific way, and most people dont do that

[proud gorge]

Mageblood prevents you from using utility flasks, whereas Scream just stops functioning when you're under a flask effect

[slender adder]

I mean yeah i know im currently at 5.5 hours of campaign and almost done, last 5 acts are a breeze,,, I was just thinking of what to do once I get into mapping

[noble sleet]

Don’t tell me what skill that is

[fossil mural]

there is also tincture effect rune now

[proud gorge]

technically you could use a utility flask with Scream, as long as you're fine with your Scream effects turning off for the duration

[slender adder]

I like essences for the "guaranteed" value, and harvest seems to be similar with the lifeforce

[tranquil sedge]

then ye i love harvest to start with
coz ez, consistent, guaranteed chaos per map

[slender adder]

Yep, just haven't quite figured out how to run it yet, I cannot for the life of me understand crop rotation

[fossil mural]

harvest isnt as bad of a start now

[wintry lily]

hasnt been

Its been solid since tree dropped on us

[proud gorge]

hmm, time to take a quick look into the "tanky builds on Poe.ninja" list

[tranquil sedge]

forget crop rota until ur minmaxing harvest, and even then its questionable

just do normal harvest at zero investment early on and bump up investment as u push to 8mod t16/16.5

[proud gorge]

"tanky builds on poe.ninja" seems to be mostly aurabots unfortunately

[fossil mural]

crop rota no awa has been more profit at times last leg than awa version in t17s with chisels

[slender adder]

So I just braindead click on harvest ✨️🥹

[noble sleet]

I wanted to try massive shrine for the memes and extra aoe with gull lol

[wintry lily]

crop rota is "slightly" better at cheap investment since you can still get more t3 than normal harvest

[fossil mural]

but you need to run fast

[proud gorge]

can anyone think of a good way to filter out aurabots on poe.ninja? They mostly don't run a main skill so I can't use that

[fossil mural]

and full tree + scarabs

[wintry lily]

But then again, wastes time and needs you to know what to do

So honestly just run whichever you like and it'll be the same in the long run (except awakened harvest crafts)

[slender adder]

What mechanics do people run with harvest? Im assuming shrines or scarab or smth? I did shrine scarab essence before for the free packs and scarab

Wasn't the most optimized but it let me do what I liked

[wintry lily]

anything they like as long as they can fit it

Im running breach and planning on slapping on harvest to obviously double the map time I do

[golden timber]

didnt they add an option to refund mtx recently or im stupid

[slender adder]

Essence harvest ?!?!?!

[fossil mural]

just harvest and rush it, altars just in case you get anything on the way there

[hidden pier]

they did but u gotta do it within a few hours of buying the mtx iirc

[golden timber]

i seee too bad

[hidden pier]

u can always just make a support ticket and email them though, have gotten a few things refunded that way

[vestal peak]

:>

[fossil mural]

you also dont want to spawn more mechanics so there is a higher chance you get double harvest

[hidden pier]

they say it's a "one time customer service gesture" but has happened multiple times for me

[tranquil sedge]

just don't abuse it but yea their CS is very player-friendly

[thick goblet]

you can always message support and say you're having performance issues cause of it ask politely

[lucid gale]

https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/refund-mtx (linked from the account page)

[fossil mural]

💀

[golden timber]

thankss guys

[lucid gale]

Reading the page explains the page.

[tranquil sedge]

any idea if using this to 'test drive' mtx would count as abuse of the system? not that i want to do that, and i feel like it would if you did it a lot, but worth asking

[fossil mural]

the time ggg adds an actual preview to mtx would be the day qol has ascended

[hidden pier]

probably would get flagged if u did it a lot in a short period of time

but i reckon just trying a few mtx to decide between a skill effect or smth should be fine

[tranquil sedge]

its limited to 2 per month so maybe thats the 'abuse prevention' system already in place, idk

[lucid gale]

Ask support or look for a previous answer from them on that, I'd say.

[tranquil sedge]

ill take purchasable combat dummy in hideout mtx before that, if we're dreaming about things we want

[hidden pier]

honestly glad that support is so player friendly, poe2 entangle mtx was making my pc melt even harder and game was borderline unplayable even before maps. Glad for the refund lol

[lucid gale]

But yeah, 2/mo sounds like a healthy throttle.

[fossil mural]

and then a 1000 dollar pack with gwen skin for it

1.0.1 how to make money

On a side note

Why does ggg keep nerfing expedition

[tranquil sedge]

pog u won

[dim gyro]

free indigion with my voidstone feels nice

[tranquil sedge]

because expedition gives very generic rewards that touch a lot of the game's lootpool and nerfing those things ends up nerfing expedition in the process

they nerfed gwennen with extreme prejudice and then never un-nerfed her after more valuable div cards were added

[hoary scarab]

sheeeeet

[fossil mural]

I cant imagine making divines more common in mapping and rarer with tujen has anything to do with that

[tranquil sedge]

tujen took hits many times and rog use gets diluted if there's other things

[dim gyro]

breach is the new expedition

[tranquil sedge]

and dannig only has value if the other npcs have value

[dense rock]

Why does expedition still keep on being one of the most farmed content even tho it gets nerfed each patch? 😄

[fossil mural]

We are 300 rolls with a dude and 0 divines from tujen, thats not okay???

[tranquil sedge]

expedition is crap div/hr
people farm it early league because its okay and easier then move on

[dim gyro]

im glad i never have to roll tujen any more cuz my hands hurt so much after i did tujen rerolling

[fossil mural]

with woke scarab rework and tujen nerf expedition has become obsolete

[tranquil sedge]

rog is only useful early league, tujen stops being worth farming after the first few weeks, and gwennen is zero div/hr anyway

[hoary scarab]

skill issur

[opaque sphinx]

idk im getting decent ground loot from it

[fossil mural]

its not a real mechanic anymore, it doesnt even have a special mirage drop - just more dudes

[tranquil sedge]

its not obsolete
its just underwhelming

[wintry lily]

just get 2 mageblood in an hour for 400div/hr

[hoary scarab]

doesnt expedition drop the new timeless

[fossil mural]

I think I had one good expedition in 50+ maps with a few chaos orbs thats about it

[opaque sphinx]

are u using scarabs ..?

[sand bloom]

I think living lightning and holy strike are fit with same support gem. But i do not know the 168% more minion damage from HS will benefit living lightning or not.

[fossil mural]

I am pretty sure its still legion?

[tranquil sedge]

the main loot from expedition in maps is supposed to be logbooks and reroll currency anyway lol

[dim gyro]

wait really? even heist has mirage contracts lol

[fossil mural]

the double runic dudes yes

[tranquil sedge]

if you want tile loot from expedition you run logbooks not maps primarily, and ensure your remnant chains pop the chests

[hoary scarab]

legion doesnt really make sense, legion got its coin incubators

[tranquil sedge]

my next one hour has been decided

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAJ6NnPdMA

hell yea

[opaque sphinx]

im using 1 archeo + 2 runefinding cuz im not even have slots yet and still getting decent loot

[visual stream]

for the alt accendancy do i need to clear the uber lab for poins then go for alt guys ?

[hoary scarab]

you can also just use your other points

just chose your bloodline, no need to do uber lab before

[visual stream]

thanks

[noble sleet]

I’m not sure if it’s still too early to tell but is shock nova looking better than ice nova now or? I hear ice nice pretty much requires kitavas thirst but shock nova doesn’t and has a lot more cast speed you can scale with it

[dim gyro]

oh id like to know that too. I've got a friend that only plays selfcast ice nova every league. He wont be playing til like a week from now though

[opal ingot]

is this dream 25 div per hour strat

[thick goblet]

apparently it's mediocre damage but feels way smoother, so you probably stick with ice nova till you're geared up

[dim gyro]

dam heist stuff worth alot now

[noble sleet]

Hmm

[whole bluff]

Man, I mistimed being sick by 4 days. Back at school, literally dead, and wanna play poe

[slow niche]

Is saresh a hard fight? I saw a video but the guy had too much aoe and i didn't see shit

[opaque sphinx]

build startin to look decent https://pobb.in/tOwuJ7QqSuN5

[whole bluff]

I started 8am. Fought It That Was Esh/Tul to 3:30am. Not the smartest decision

[noble sleet]

Is bleed slam just alright?

[opaque sphinx]

its good, im liking bleed retal a lot

[noble sleet]

This skill looks crazy with the speed and AOE but maybe I thought it would insta delete everything lol. Looks fun https://www.youtube.com/live/uYDC0Mzd9sQ?si=G82qxWOFSyvqzbcz

[whole bluff]

Bleed slam was really nice when I played it. But a bunch of things were nerfed on that char. Assuming you got new options to compensate it should be very comfy

Azadi or Life on Block Gladiator might be better these days. It can just pretend mobs are spectators of their own demise the majority of the time

[opaque sphinx]

its hella comfy, so far ->
crit immune
ele ailment immune
double unlucky dmg taken
97% block
95% spell block
5 endu charges
fortify
some + max res
debilitate
10m dps

[rose vault]

my blight hates minions aswell

[proud gorge]

the main benefit of any Gladiator build is just getting to feel invincible in maps

[silver sandal]

Ritual astrolabe be looking juicy

[noble sleet]

I’m wet

[tranquil sedge]

how much did it cost?

[stable pumice]

Ughhh cant decide what to support mg holly hammers with

[opaque sphinx]

yeh my buddy who doesnt play but likes to watch us sometimes was watching me stream earlier
popped a big boom exped with tons of extra mods and went afk to smoke a bowl
came back 2 mins later to him losing his mind describing it to our other friend lmao

[whole bluff]

I did prefer lacerate of haemorrhage to eviscerate, but both are very good and it's probably just differing taste on playstyle. Lacerate probably deals like 30-60% less dmg, unless overexert nerf messed it up further

[opaque sphinx]

"he just doesn't die dude, there's like 100 things hitting him for like a minute now he's n ot even fucking playing"
"why doesnt ur build do this"

[silver sandal]

the astro, 1D

[proud gorge]

since lucky max block means you're taking 1/16th of all hits aka ~94% effective damage avoidance, just by itself

and that obviously stacks with other forms of avoidance

[whole bluff]

I was chasing boss attacks so lucky block wouldn't go down

[opaque sphinx]

valid lol

[proud gorge]

but yeah, it's a bit more iffy in boss fights. Still good, just not quite so "unkillable"

but mapping is the majority of gameplay

[opaque sphinx]

stack it with azadi and viridi veil for double lucky block and double unlucky dmg taken

[proud gorge]

so, you know, pros and cons

[opaque sphinx]

even uber elder wasn't bad at all

[proud gorge]

but yeah, lucky block glad is certainly the easiest way to get unkillable early

since its almost entirely tree-based

rather than item-based to really any degree

[opaque sphinx]

i get the feeling uber exarch will be pain and suffering tho

[lucid kiln]

has anyone used a black barya yet? is the boss hard

[opaque sphinx]

easy, fought 2

he's pretty squishy

[lucid kiln]

where do i put it in my map device

[opaque sphinx]

u gotta find it, bottom middle

[lucid kiln]

o, right click

[opaque sphinx]

[gritty epoch]

When mod list is an essay

[lucid kiln]

why cant i put it in?

[tawdry olive]

One day they’re gonna hide some shit in those and no one will notice

[frigid wedge]

thas what he said

[lucid kiln]

oh no im being mocked

[stoic horizon]

just read

your map, and then the text above map slot

[teal goblet]

Wow is that a bad roll

[opaque sphinx]

very

[stoic horizon]

tf is that map anyway?

[proud gorge]

spaceship

[stoic horizon]

i dont recognize it from the art

[fossil mural]

its not a map

[opaque sphinx]

black barya

[stoic horizon]

oh

[fossil mural]

have you tried reading, perchance

[shrewd fiber]

damn this mavens invitation got hands

[frigid wedge]

yeah, man creates where nature cannot, and that is why i exist

[proud gorge]

yeah, high-rolled invitations can be challenging

gotta fight not just all four guardians at once, but all four guardians at once with powerful mods

[stoic horizon]

sans is an automaton confirmed

[lucid kiln]

i genuinely dont know what is going on rn

[stoic horizon]

[frigid wedge]

no im just an atrocity of mankind

[shrewd fiber]

the guardian battles were so easy compared ot the invitation lmao

[teal goblet]

Is this whole circle worth getting

[proud gorge]

imo the worst guardian map invitation is the Shaper guardian invitation, since Phoenix just does his big AoE ignite bullshit, and they all have weird full-map attacks

[fossil mural]

right click the barya

[proud gorge]

but then I haven't actually done the new memory guardian invitation

[fossil mural]

it takes you to a place where you can use it

on the atlas

remove the fucking slow mode already chats dead

[lucid kiln]

yeah to that Arun thing

[copper vale]

Nuh uh the worst is elder

[proud gorge]

welp, I'm gonna go sleep, and tomorrow I'm gonna level a manamanana

[fossil mural]

no it doesnt

[stoic horizon]

yeah and the thing you are putting in is not arun if you read it

[fossil mural]

barya is below arun

[proud gorge]

if you right click a map fragment it'll take you to where it goes, as long as you have that location unlocked

[copper vale]

Im gonna arun your thing

[stoic horizon]

arun deez nuts

[proud gorge]

if you don't have that location unlocked then it just won't do anything

[fossil mural]

it takes you there regardless, but if you dont have it unlocked it looks confusing

[proud gorge]

does it? Interesting, I guess unique maps don't work, since I've been right clicking those and it's not doing anything

[stoic horizon]

its out of view for you because you havent completed the maps near it

[fossil mural]

so you simply havent pathed to it yet

[lucid kiln]

ah

[fossil mural]

unique maps work too?

[lucid kiln]

i thought i was going crazy, thanks guys

[fossil mural]

[proud gorge]

I've got a couple of unique maps and I'm furiously right clicking them with the atlas open

and nothing's happening

[fossil mural]

maybe some dont

[proud gorge]

I think it's just because I don't even vaguely have the map locations unlocked

[fossil mural]

but every one ive gotten worked even if I hadnt pathed to it yet

[proud gorge]

my map is mostly fog of war

[stoic horizon]

it won't snipe the location if its not visible

[fossil mural]

I dont have left quadrant unlocked at all and it shows me blank space for taxes

[tawdry olive]

Yea this is a new thing, can’t just run anything you want now

[fossil mural]

it works regardless of anything

thats the point of it - shows you where to path

[tawdry olive]

Even key gamba is locked

[plucky rivet]

Anyone can help me in my world

[shrewd fiber]

whats the highest item level i need for a helmet? trying to craft rn

[proud gorge]

oh wait, you know what it might be, actually

[ocean folio]

well what mods do you want

[proud gorge]

I haven't identified the unique maps

like, I know what map they are, so I didn't bother IDing them

[shrewd fiber]

uh probably life and resistances i think? along with some shaper mods

[proud gorge]

but that might be why it's not taking me to their location

[blissful zodiac]

what rarity is voltoxic rift

[fossil mural]

resistances go all the way up

[stoic horizon]

usually its 83-86

[noble sleet]

I’m looking up bleed slam, it looks comfy so far lol. Man tbh I just haven’t seen anything really BUSTED so far, maybe this is the balanced league?

[ocean folio]

usually you select your base here and check what item level your mods need for t1
https://poedb.tw/us/Modifiers

[stoic horizon]

just look at kf totems and ele hit

[tawdry olive]

There’s always something busted, just hasn’t been found or made known yet

[noble sleet]

Ele hit slayer? Haven’t looked into tht one yet

[stoic horizon]

but thats just starters, i bet there will be something insane sith hugh budget stuff

[proud gorge]

I mean, there's degrees of bustitude

[tawdry olive]

Mmmm, bust

[hoary scarab]

ele hit slayer kinda meh ngl

[fossil mural]

ele hit is bad if you dont have taming+ashes

[proud gorge]

but yeah, unless a skill is wildly overpowered from moment one, the best build is usually one you have to scale into

[noble sleet]

I think I got too hooked on them mercs level of busted lol. Really fun building into them when talking about “borrowed” power

[stoic horizon]

i have taming but dont feel like ashes is needed

[split maple]

Can just do generic slayer on ele hit, no?

[stoic horizon]

ye

[proud gorge]

the best build this league is probably going to be Strength Stack

[noble sleet]

I see master

[split maple]

Like carnage into yoke funsies

[proud gorge]

something something strength stack

[fossil mural]

withoyt ashes bots are way too slow

[stoic horizon]

also the new belt + 3rd ring is insane, you can run 2x unseen hue and taming

[hoary scarab]

the best build this league is gonna be minions 💪

[stoic horizon]

what bots

[noble sleet]

Love them attribute stacking lol

[karmic gust]

well you cant rly do yoke on tri ele hit

[fossil mural]

skitterbots bruh

[stoic horizon]

i dont need them

[fossil mural]

yes you do

[proud gorge]

just run unseen hue, not skitterbots

[stoic horizon]

no i dont, not at all

[frigid wedge]

u get 2 extra ailments for ele hit

[proud gorge]

unseen hue is way better

[noble sleet]

With ele hit? Mannnn imagine how fucking busted ele hit would’ve been if it didn’t get changed from the ziz interview 😩

[stoic horizon]

i dont, i already shock and chill

[steady elk]

I dunno it's pretty stronk. Straight up 3 shotting every boss when fist of war is up

[fossil mural]

thats not the point, the point is for clear

[steady elk]

Which is like 2 seconds lmao

[stoic horizon]

clear is not an issue at all

[steady elk]

I'm running it on vaal slam too so it could be stronger with sunder or ground slam of earth shaking

[noble sleet]

You playing it?

[split maple]

wait what i am missing there

[stoic horizon]

i dont run skitterbots and get the big explodies anyway

[steady elk]

Yeah I'm running bleed slams slayer

[proud gorge]

EHit's clear is incredibly good yeah, if there's one thing it doesn't need its a boost to its clear

[severe mountain]

Ele Hit Deadeye is one of the worst builds I've played in recent history

Zero survivability and you literally can't see anything

[gentle chasm]

who needs survivability when you zoom

[karmic gust]

assuming you are running interrogation you cant shock even with yoke

[stoic horizon]

welcome to fubgun builds

[proud gorge]

I mean, it's a Ranger build

[steady elk]

I haven't taken it to pinnacles yet tho but I suspect it'll be pretty similar performance

[split maple]

skittles?

[severe mountain]

It's SSF so you're not really zooming, you're just randomly dying to things you can't see if the screen doesn't die in 0.1 seconds

[steady elk]

It is a bit squishy tho.

[stoic horizon]

why interrogation tho when hue exists

[karmic gust]

so then what is yoke doing for you because the all damage can shock is best line on it

[proud gorge]

that's just the Ranger build special

[karmic gust]

1 jewel vs 2 rings, easy decision

[proud gorge]

but yeah, EHit should be running double unseen hue

[split maple]

just incr dmg taken

[noble sleet]

Okay have pic perms always bene enabled? I see this off and on

[whole bluff]

I got the same, but also bad clear, and not great dmg

[proud gorge]

it's very good

[steady elk]

Isn't slayer in general sort of glass Cannon type of gameplay?

[fossil mural]

ashes is same dps or so

[karmic gust]

thats worse than other amulets

[proud gorge]

Slayer can be tanky, particularly with endurance charge stacking

[fossil mural]

but ahses has qual for skitters and shi

[molten meteor]

anyone having freezes and crashes with unstable breach bosses? My PC isn't too bad and it can handle multiple screens of breach minions with all sorts of effects, but the second the boss spawns it starts freezing and eventually crashing, I literally cannot play the mech if it spawns, have to rush out of the breach zone before it gets into screen. any ideas?

[split maple]

slayer is tanky by default lol, masterful form is broken

[stoic horizon]

the rings give good stats as well tho, ofc far endgame ill prob swap but for now its bis

[karmic gust]

and you cant poison or bleed with ele hit either easily

[split maple]

yea i am thinking before ashes

[karmic gust]

for yoke

[steady elk]

Curious I guess I haven't taken that node yet.

[split maple]

no poison or bleed is good point yea

[stoic horizon]

7 endu and perma leech is giga comfy early

[noble sleet]

So the builds I’m looking at an maybe we need to wait a bit for things to get flushed out of some new interaction or foresight are shock nova skill, bleed slayer slammy, KF totem and I’m gonna look up ele hit slayer now since that’s second most popular now?

[proud gorge]

I mean, I wouldn't go Yoke or Ashes, it's EHit. Just run Replica Dragonfang's for +3 levels worth of extra flat

it's easy, it's convenient, and you don't jump through any hoops

[split maple]

i still like the idea of forcing venarius astrolabe on ehit, tho i only pobed that before they reverted breachlord

[proud gorge]

plus extra auras

[split maple]

with warlord+hunter glove, redemeer+hunter boots and rings for influences

[karmic gust]

thats just worse than ashes by default

[proud gorge]

is it? lemme check

[stoic horizon]

tbh quality from ashes is also very good for ele hit dmg

[whole bluff]

I wonder if I'm missing something or if my dps really is like 400k

[noble sleet]

I can’t tell if slayer went down by 1% 😂

[proud gorge]

this is obviously a 3.27 PoB

[karmic gust]

yea. and now also consider what is ashes doing for your other gems

[drowsy eagle]

go to sleep

[proud gorge]

This is just showing what Ashes does for the entire build?

[karmic gust]

its not rly close

[proud gorge]

relative to replica dragonfang

[shell glacier]

Can someone help me please? I have done the thing where Maven witnesses the 10 bosses and done her invitation 3 times now, still can't get this slot t open

[stoic horizon]

ngl on my setup that would be just more evasion, ass mark doesnt scale well with lvls

[proud gorge]

like, I'm putting it into PoB, it says Ashes is a -0.3% DPS loss

[karmic gust]

not using blood rage, molten, sigil?

[stoic horizon]

ah right blood, no molten nor sigil

[noble sleet]

Why? 🐖

[split maple]

do nigthmare map

[karmic gust]

well its good for any guard skill

so i hope you are using at least one :d

[stoic horizon]

yeah

[shell glacier]

ty

[stoic horizon]

the worst one but i am

[drowsy eagle]

it's 3 am

[opaque sphinx]

aw u cant block meatballs?

[stoic horizon]

nay

[proud gorge]

I have guard skill off in PoB obviously, but yeah for some reason Blood Rage was off

[opaque sphinx]

[subtle kiln]

so aurabot with spellcaster... scion or champ?

[noble sleet]

Dang yeah no one is really using the shock nova skill on Poe ninja. Dang it looked so fun too, maybe I was hoping it would op asf. Fuck you totems

[surreal musk]

https://i.imgur.com/VR2EoDP.png pretty funny but also aids i have to manually check what affixes are giving more scarabs on my maps then choose sinistral/dextral scarabs like this instead of being able to see in game somehow

[karmic gust]

and doesnt account for other stuff as welel obviously

[whole bluff]

3.5k life, 25/25 block (ca), 500 ES but only sustain that on kill except ghost dance, 4-5k evasion, maybe 45% suppress. Flesh and stone, Arctic armour, shock immune, unaffected by damaging ailments, 400k dps vs pinnacle. I shouldn't expect to be doing reds on this I guess, or at least I fail league mechanics so it doesn't seem decent

[grand flint]

whats a good farming currency with 111 atlas points? just needing to make currency

[split maple]

so did anyone test yet if trans static strike works the way we want ™

[proud gorge]

yeah mine shows a slight DPS increase, but I end up at negative mana

[stoic horizon]

the beam only works when you strike an enemy, so no double hit

[split maple]

thats reasonable, how do the chaining works?

[stoic horizon]

wild strike v3 (trans ls is v2)

[sour wadi]

can you get a 5 flask mageblood with volatile vaal -_-?

[dim gyro]

what about additional strikes?

[surreal musk]

yeah

[sour wadi]

thats pretty cool

[proud gorge]

poe.ninja simply isn't updated to register Shock Nova of Procession correctly, any build using it appears as though it has no main skill

[noble sleet]

Wait is this guy serious?.. someome say 5 flask mageblood?? Lmao

[peak heron]

what happend to the scarb that made 8 mod maps
that shit got nuked right?

[noble sleet]

Wow so no way to no for sure?

[sour wadi]

theres a new vaal orb that behaves like poe2 vaaling where it increases the range of values on a unique (or destroys it)

[proud gorge]

these guys are all running Shock Nova of Procession

except the Spark and BLO guys obviously

[hybrid harness]

@karmic gust I leveled my pathfinder today to start playing SA and I noticed now at 80 ish that the good woke gems were removed with no alternative? is the build straight nerfed or is there anything positive this league too

[karmic gust]

it def looks like its registering shock nova of procession

[bold kelp]

Most poison builds were straight nerfed

[noble sleet]

I always knew Poe 2 had something good going for it. Bro what would even be the damn price of that

[bold kelp]

Actually not most, every poison build was straight nerfed with the awakened gem removal

[sour wadi]

several money

[stoic horizon]

at least 3 necropolis maps

[proud gorge]

huh yeah, it shows up correctly in the "Main Skills" list, but not on the dps display

[noble sleet]

A 5 flask mage blood?? Lmao. That’s all your flask right?? wtf lol. Yall wanted MG to get nerfed but this seems like an incredible buff right? I hope I’m not missing something

[proud gorge]

maybe they just have no idea how to calculate the DPS of Procession

[hybrid harness]

I wonder what imbued scourge arrow wants that could be the one positive

[noble sleet]

Hmm

[stoic horizon]

it got a competitor, and its very gamba to get

[sour wadi]

i mean not everyone would even want all 5 utility flasks.

[opaque sphinx]

inc 2 shrine

[drowsy eagle]

skeleton

[proud gorge]

hey, it's a 2 shrine, nice

[stoic horizon]

armor stackers are defo happy tho, granite, the 20% more armor and all 3 ele flasks

[noble sleet]

Holy mother of god this is some good ass competition I guess. 5 flask mageblodo or god tier shrine belt lmao

[karmic gust]

well you got 7th link but otherwrise yea the exceptional gem changes were a nerf like dema said

[proud gorge]

honestly that's not even close to the worst 2 shrine

[stoic horizon]

yeah its useable

[sour wadi]

ya impenetrable is pretty good

[proud gorge]

people just really don't like Brutal

[final owl]

what does brutal even do

[noble sleet]

And then you pair that up with gull?

[bold kelp]

Poison builds were pretty commonly running 4/5 awakened supports too

[proud gorge]

50% damage, but also knockback on hit

[hybrid harness]

yea it sucks lol

[proud gorge]

also lets you stun enemies more easily

[stoic horizon]

it might be bis for eb ball lightning

[noble sleet]

Extra gore lmao.

[robust gazelle]

anyone know why ambush scarabs arent working on maps?

[proud gorge]

but that's not usually very relevant

[bold kelp]

you have the scarab disabling keystone allocated

[dark grove]

Nah its collectioner item. You lose progrnesis, dyong sun, or wine

[whole bluff]

Ah, now I realise why there were no awakened gems on the market LMAO

[robust gazelle]

ah is that just in the atlas?

[bold kelp]

Didnt read a speck of the patch notes
Helper

[whole bluff]

Nah, I knew

I just forgot

[bold kelp]

understandable

[peak whale]

was watching a video.... wtf is this?

[fossil mural]

legacy

[surreal musk]

standard item lol

[peak whale]

ah...

[fossil mural]

BUG ABUSE

[proud gorge]

Bladefall of Trarthus

[whole bluff]

I am trolling, I am poison but have no curse socketed. It would increase my pinnacle dps by like 60% and 33%, if I got a source of dual curse

[fossil mural]

smoothie

[proud gorge]

it's an alright skill, though its mana cost per second while active makes it kind of weird to use

great for if you want something to just go without intervention

[whole bluff]

Focus helm is nice for curses on poison right? Put hexbloom despair in there and get the explode gloves with temp chains?

[karmic gust]

sure

[golden moat]

why does my level all gems button keep bugging and wont work unless i relog?

[noble sleet]

I like bleed slam build cause it’s melee and I like meleeish things but I do like to change up now and then and I could go for a milkshake

[whole bluff]

I'll do that then

[opaque sphinx]

i wonder if there's a best map for forcing mirage beside boss

[stoic horizon]

mesa?

[opaque sphinx]

worth testing

[stoic horizon]

the map is just a circle with a biss in the middle

should be a very good chance to have the boss in

[opaque sphinx]

when mirage spawn beside boss it can spawn with the "map boss is accompanied by runid" or w/e the fk the unique's name is and he drops black barya 100%

[whole bluff]

Is city square still on atlas?

[stoic horizon]

there is also one that spawns a random boss from the feared, and apparently it adds per each boss so works with dest play

[opaque sphinx]

does it drop their loot?

[lucid kiln]

wooo finally

[stoic horizon]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

😮

[proud gorge]

here's something interesting, you know that one map that has two boss arenas, and the boss is randomly in one of them?

I got Mirage containing one of the two arenas but not the other, and it had the boss in it in the mirage version, but in the "real" version the boss was in the other arena

though since I did the mirage first I got map completion credit for killing the mirage version in the "wrong" arena

so maybe Mirage just forces the boss to be in the one boss arena it has?

[stoic horizon]

yeah its funny

[proud gorge]

what I'm saying is, is there a map with a bunch of possible arenas for the boss to be in?

because maybe that could be used to "force" the boss to spawn in the mirage

[gentle chasm]

bruh

why is it so small for some shit that doesnt stack

[final tendon]

with my observations, the mirag will try to spawn around the boss by default, unless you have league specific content in your map

[stable pumice]

Alright guys the hell can i link my holly hammers with on my generals cry.. xD

[final tendon]

if you have strongboxes, essences, legions or something like that, it will try to spawn around that instead

[opaque sphinx]

so block everything and go mesa

[blazing bear]

is there a way to search for skill gems on the trade site by type? like, any lightning related skill gem?

[stable pumice]

Ngl i rather keep strongboxes in for operative strongbox xD

[crisp obsidian]

No but wiki has good lists

[stable pumice]

Do it ingame at lily roth

[frigid wedge]

is there fundamentally anything wrong with going phys claw ls or whatever

[whole bluff]

Did they fix affinity yet? I have to manually place every wombgift in there

[gentle chasm]

they did

yesterday at some point

[whole bluff]

Nice

[opaque sphinx]

yeah its just worse

[frigid wedge]

ok but why

i wanna go chaos and master distiller is looking kinda hot

[stoic horizon]

trinity op

[whole bluff]

Unholy trinity cheap

[hoary scarab]

pdps weak

[whole bluff]

But it doesn't seem great lul

[knotty geyser]

anyone familiar with toxic rain pf able to help me choose between going for progenesis or tides of time first

[opaque sphinx]

trinity is cheap, u get more ele than flat phys by a lot, easier to scale by a lot

[whole bluff]

Unholy trinity is probably just so that voltaxic burst is possibly one step closer to playable

[noble sleet]

Rakitas flow

[frigid wedge]

what it do

[stoic horizon]

trinity for chaos phys lightning, and gives chance to ignore res instead of pen

[frigid wedge]

its pf so i kinda leaning towards wither

[whole bluff]

You need to get trinity but on phys/lightning/chaos, and more dmg, prolly 100% chance to ignore physDR/lightRes/chaosRes on lvl 4 (so you need a +1 socketed gems)

Or maybe corrupt

[thick ocean]

more currency on maps dont work on div card drops right?

[stoic horizon]

nop

[teal eagle]

what is a strong templar build for strongboxes? like.. if that was my only goal in life?

[frigid wedge]

how about i just go full chaos tho

[stoic horizon]

just go osin

[frigid wedge]

[whole bluff]

Wanna use the new claw?

Or buffed claw

[dim gyro]

wait so the new exceptional supports are just straight downgrades?

[stoic horizon]

no?

[frigid wedge]

no i just wanna play vls pathfinder with vaal sacrifice

[whole bluff]

Then prolly go triele

[opaque sphinx]

u can play it as doryani with abhorrent interrogation on pathfinder

[frigid wedge]

yay master distiller

[frigid wedge]

rather get to click vls more than once

with doppel phys mitigate

[opaque sphinx]

u can still mitigate the lightning and dots dont matter as much cuz ur pf

[hoary scarab]

guys, should faustus raise his fees? he keeps talking about it

[opaque sphinx]

people used to play it as LA

[surreal musk]

scarab of dextral still isnt on exchange

[opaque sphinx]

no reason u cant vls with it instead

[frigid wedge]

the support is like 2k phys dot and iirc it stacks

[final owl]

is this still just garbage

[opaque sphinx]

seems neat but prob bad

[whole bluff]

Hmm. I must be missing something on my dmg. It doesn't feel like 400k pinnacle dps

It feels like several times higher

[hoary scarab]

yes, the afarud version has potential for league starts tho

[stoic horizon]

the phys version looks primising

[hoary scarab]

good old corrupting fever TS champion is back with the phys version

[noble sleet]

Aoe on this looks insane https://www.youtube.com/live/ZzmqgcTcPYc?si=nB2c0tkY7VF5sgfk

[final owl]

ic ic. sure can't think of any obvious fire bow users ig

[knotty geyser]

weird fire dot thing why wouldnt you just do like burning arrow prolif or smth

[frigid wedge]

is there any 1h weapon base that scales phys well?

compared to just tri ele

ig theres spiritblade right?

[hoary scarab]

cause you can cover 3 screens with tornado shot

[knotty geyser]

ic

[noble sleet]

wtf is that ele hit radius has. Can yall check that out at the end of the video? Might be his shrine belt tho..

[bold kelp]

ele hit radius is really big with alot of ailments

[whole bluff]

Seems like I have 2m dps. This isn't that fucked. Especially if I have an easy doubling with double curse

[knotty geyser]

he has massive shrine ye

[whole bluff]

Unless poe.ninja counts bounces

[noble sleet]

Ohh bruh that’s why lmao. He’s using the gull as well so his radius is crazy right now..

[stoic horizon]

dw massive shrine belt is 45c

or at least was yesterday

[noble sleet]

Buying. Looks like he has resonating shrine as well

[stoic horizon]

and massive gives a lot of hp as well

[atomic crane]

I'm still in t5 maps

[noble sleet]

I don’t think he’s using the gull is he? Actually overkill asf

[flat elk]

I just realize they swapped the shipping rewards, so crops are not really necessary now I guess?

[stoic horizon]

yeah 2 shrine would be far more expensive

[noble sleet]

Big BOY HP

[frigid wedge]

u can hit that without anyway, theres a dude that played melee ele hit before it was cool that was doing fullscreen

[knotty geyser]

i dont see why you wouldnt tbh

[stoic horizon]

he is

[frigid wedge]

with like 2 aoe clusters

[knotty geyser]

no flasks remember

juice that shrine effect

[noble sleet]

This guy really is doing the shrine build that I always wanted lol. All the AOE

[stoic horizon]

4 worm jars login

[knotty geyser]

nowae

[frigid wedge]

if u want aoe just play consecrated path of endurance, it goes fullscreen with literally just endurance charges

[stoic horizon]

instant life/mana flasks are fine

and tinctures too

[whole bluff]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/Vinchova-6627/ActualJarOfAnchovies?i=0&search=name%3Dactualjarofanchovies the dps here is without bounce right?

[noble sleet]

I’m curious to see this nova skill with as much aoe but I assume ele hit hits a lot harder or?

[short prairie]

you gotta be kiddin

why didnt i league start RF in ssf

[bold kelp]

ele hit aoe requires setup, it gets more aoe per ailment

[knotty geyser]

ele tincture with 50% invert

[opaque sphinx]

tks rog

[knotty geyser]

yummy

[gray heath]

do we have an azurite / keyword?

[stoic horizon]

not a big issue

[frigid wedge]

i dont usually pay attention to it but how much dps is reasonable in act 7

[bold kelp]

for clear it just means you wont get that big of an aoe one shotting packs, it'd be on the second hit

[frigid wedge]

ninja says i got 12k on pconc but my plague bearer fills to 60k with 1 conc

[wintry lily]

Reasonable dps : are things dying?

If yes : yes
If not : no

[stoic horizon]

not that true, i explode whole screen with each hit, i dont run skitters

[frigid wedge]

true

[opaque sphinx]

rog still pog man

[whole bluff]

Bouncing or normal?

[frigid wedge]

boing boing

[whole bluff]

Ah, act 7

[wintry lily]

even in normal it accounts for 1 hit too no? and not the splash from the side concs

[whole bluff]

Wait you got bouncing?

[frigid wedge]

5c

[whole bluff]

Neat

[simple stag]

Thinking about switching to kf totems WWJD

[noble sleet]

Rue looks like a damn god with that massive shrine LMAO

[whole bluff]

I got a 20/20+mana leech for like 7c

[noble sleet]

Banned

[frigid wedge]

my act 7 gear looks like i stepped outta act 2

[whole bluff]

Or 10c, idr

[wintry lily]

Can people drop the price on less duration 21/20 already

[simple stag]

Its sunday ban me tmr

[wintry lily]

Let me fucking use my coiling whispers setup properly already goddamn it

[frigid wedge]

kf League says no

[wintry lily]

people falling for palsetron bait again smh

[stoic horizon]

remember totems = bait

[misty wren]

why is crit hatred 4 div when its literally 4 people in mirage that actually use hatred

[wintry lily]

not even that, there's just way better 4 stone starters

[frigid wedge]

kf is fine tbh, esp for start

[simple stag]

How tf r totems bait

[shrewd fiber]

what are my tools for cheap early armor crafting? trying to get T1 defences on a body armor and chaos resistance

[pulsar dune]

you're looking at main skill hatred

[stoic horizon]

because you dont self cast, self cast is the only real gaming

[shrewd fiber]

just essence spam?

[wintry lily]

4 people have 5L + hatred lmao

[bold kelp]

Real question, why are 4 people using main skill hatred.

[frigid wedge]

"main skills"

[wintry lily]

They really must hate something to main skill hatred

[frigid wedge]

its just ppl using their body link for auras

[wintry lily]

i know

its just funnier to think otherwise

[pulsar dune]

funny that it counts this as hatred main

[wintry lily]

Tbf, it is probably and technically in a 5L

[late furnace]

My game crashes when I try to open "social" panel. where can I check if t his is a known bug?

[ocean nest]

How do I know what aura lvl my spectres are casting (Perfect Forest Warrior, Perfect Forest Tiger, Perfect Guardian Turtle)?

[main bison]

is this good for lightning conduit?

[stoic horizon]

they have their own values not exactly related to levels

you can set them up in pob

[ocean nest]

ah okay thx.was wondering if it's worth to get the perfect forest tiger if it's like an lvl 10 haste aura

[ocean nest]

will do later when back from work

[stoic horizon]

you can also see on the wiki

[final owl]

i sure am not seeing any of these much vaunted ground divs :I

[hoary scarab]

hmmm RF holy strike looks hella fun

[cerulean breach]

wait, is this a bug?

[stoic horizon]

luck issue

[cerulean breach]

maximum 6, now I add this:

maximum 8

[ocean nest]

cant find it

[fossil mural]

rounds down

[cerulean breach]

it rounds down from 9.94 to 8?

[hoary scarab]

most things round down in poe1

[stoic horizon]

ah then poedb prob

[final owl]

100k kills and the only div i've seen is from tree ~_~ I am sure my good rng is juuuuust around the corner..

[hoary scarab]

?

[ocean nest]

yeah probably. will test out later

[fossil mural]

quick maths

[noble sleet]

Wait do yall not like palsterom or yall joking? Cause yall said this about Goliath. Idk yall say the “bait” word a lot like it’s the only word in the dictionary lmao

[cerulean breach]

oh am dumb, started with wrong number

[lucid gale]

quick mafs

[final owl]

do you mean goratha?

[stoic horizon]

i was joking, but some people genuinely dont like totems

[ocean nest]

a wild zao appeared 👋

[hoary scarab]

Izao

[final owl]

also yes most streamer builds linked here will get called bait for one reason or another.

[fossil mural]

wzao

[whole bluff]

Rounding is weird. Apparently greater chain rounds up. But golem count concatenates

[uneven gust]

bait varies

[fossil mural]

ggg and their rounding issues

[uneven gust]

ruetoo ele shit bait for noobs

[noble sleet]

I can vouch. I think it was you but someone said in this game it’s like your entire dmg sadly but in two it’s more supplementary and an ADDITION

[noble sleet]

Yup

[whole bluff]

PoE1 always used to concatenate. But greater chain seems like a thing imported from poe2

[fossil mural]

lmao

eww poo2

[whole bluff]

Meh

[ocean nest]

I wish for an button that lets me transfer all my inventory into the designated stash tabs ...

[fossil mural]

how many rolls

[opaque sphinx]

26

[odd fox]

too expensive ngl

[fossil mural]

Fuck you (c)

[opaque sphinx]

my luck been pretty good this league ngl

[stoic horizon]

poe2 is buffing poe1 gems now login

[opaque sphinx]

both were voices from a wave 5 simu

[stoic horizon]

id or no balls

[opaque sphinx]

sold alrdy

[odd fox]

poo2 would be a superior game to poe1 if the poo2 endgame wasn't poo

[proud gorge]

incoming 9 passive

[whole bluff]

Meh

[proud gorge]

the infamous 9 passive voices

[noble sleet]

Are rue too’s builds good to follow like his ele hit build? I normally follow funguns builds but uhh yeah no bows for me lmao

[proud gorge]

no his ele hit build sucks

it's fine if your goal is to hit maps as fast as possible on day 1, and terrible in all other circumstances

don't play claw/sword ele hit lmao

[copper vale]

Both 1 passive when id

[stoic horizon]

claw sword i literally just lvling

for the dual wield mastery

[opaque sphinx]

just play evis glad

[copper vale]

U like melee?

[noble sleet]

I love melee

[noble sleet]

Idk what that is

[stoic horizon]

you swap to dual claw for stones and then claw shield when you can craft a good claw

[opaque sphinx]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/LocoCocoa-1921/MirageHasNoPuns?i=0&search=name%3Dhasno&timemachine=hour-12

https://pobb.in/tOwuJ7QqSuN5

[whole bluff]

Man, not-shadow pconc of bouncing seems completely playable as a serious build for endgame

[opaque sphinx]

there's snapshots u can follow on ninja

[noble sleet]

Well that was a turn off hearing that lol

[copper vale]

900k ehp on league start

[noble sleet]

Ty

[frigid wedge]

where u getting most of ur dmg after follow thru nerf

[copper vale]

Holy that’s Diablolical

[stoic horizon]

im playing it and it's perfectly fine

[opaque sphinx]

its actually higher but pob doesnt know how to account for double unlucky dmg taken from viridi + azadi

[noble sleet]

You got gameplay of this?

[noble sleet]

HIS build or a general ele hit

[opaque sphinx]

goratha is playing a version of it, u can check his youtube

[fossil mural]

he has no groundbreaking for clear or bell swap, so gameplay will be coc and ball

[stoic horizon]

his

[fossil mural]

but you can make it playable

oh yea also the only form of recovery being the flask ICANT

[stoic horizon]

its get hit -> clear whole screen

[opaque sphinx]

gameplay is basically just :
walk into pack
pack hit u
click eviscerate
screen goes boom
if mob tanky > click banner and tincture then eviscerate
can click crushing fast whenever u want fortify

[noble sleet]

Was that… supposed to have torture at the end of it? Lol

[slender adder]

high investment farms look to be way more profitable now, no?especially that one strongbox scarab ? you get 2x the profit with the same level of risk

[fossil mural]

maybe not as bad as that

[whole bluff]

I mean, not a good one to push far. I just think if you can hit 143k per bounce on some ragtag day 2-3 char without curses, with new g.chain + fury valve + g.volley + tree, you easily hit 15 chain. That's already 2m dps, or 4m with proper curses? If you're slayer or pathfinder, on top of that you have defences

[noble sleet]

Currently or? I just saw him playing shock nova

[opaque sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK9aEfCAovU

[noble sleet]

Ohh thank you

[opaque sphinx]

my build is very similar but more tanky with viridi/PoE

[formal reef]

anyone help im 99/100 but ive done all maps?

[fossil mural]

missing a unique map?

[noble sleet]

Man did a lot of hefty builds and things get nerfed this league compared to some other ones?

[opaque sphinx]

type /atlaspassives

[fossil mural]

or maybe missed a bonus obj somewhere

[copper vale]

/atlaspassives

[lucid gale]

Southwest by Hallowed Ground.

[frigid wedge]

ig so, still feels bleh

[lucid gale]

Sepulchre, I believe.

[formal reef]

my god ty, im dumb

[copper vale]

Silly u

[frigid wedge]

ill probably drop pconc as soon as i pick up vaal sacrifice and an ok claw

[final owl]

not minding new breach with enemy at the gates. just had 5 breaches with no need to defend that [redacted] Ailith. good times.

[near void]

So when mirage loot buff?

[noble sleet]

Ohh that looks not bad. Just seeing all the different builds and waiting a few days to see wht pops up or emerges. Not waiting to play right away.

[simple stag]

Can’t wait to see the data on desiccated belts

[hoary scarab]

dang i just realized, you can get up to 39 golems this league

[copper vale]

With the same damage as 20 golems from last league with more investment

[odd fox]

its over

league ended

[copper vale]

Ha ur permission to play this league has been taken rip

[hoary scarab]

no with double the damage

[near void]

Wow quick league

[plush galleon]

what coin would be best to be used for kf totems 🤔 blue red or green?

[odd fox]

ggg compensating for settlers league

[drowsy eagle]

[rugged shale]

gg

[simple stag]

Bunch of good options probably blue though

[cosmic eagle]

ah yes the giving tree

[hoary scarab]

joo

[cosmic eagle]

[simple stag]

Arrest him

[drowsy eagle]

test DNA I was the father

[copper vale]

Oh mah gah

[stoic horizon]

ubers at home

[hoary scarab]

i wish i could make use of the tree, but i want to keep my trusty pocket breachussy with me

[past rain]

why does this lightning dmg not work

[stoic horizon]

do not the breach

[stoic horizon]

with hits

look at how perquil is worded

[plush galleon]

god the new visuals on the atlas are so fucking good it looks like a proper maping of the worlds

[cosmic eagle]

15 fortress run, got diallas sold for 6d, kikazaru for 2d
used blue/white t16 jungle valley map and 15 fortress scarabs worth 20c

[hoary scarab]

allat to achieve the currency you make from flipping for 1h

[short prairie]

cheating

[plush galleon]

yeah but fliping means you dont play the game so it sucks

[native abyss]

man my build sucks ass

[cosmic eagle]

i told you i love fortress, aside from the walls that thing is my blight and alva

[gentle chasm]

boo that man for playing the game

its not optimal

[stoic horizon]

boo until he pays us in div

[hoary scarab]

gotta get the gold from somewhere

[rocky cove]

what would be good shadow build that can farm expedition? (I think it should have source of explosions)

[hoary scarab]

golden volatiles my beloved

[simple stag]

I really don’t see the difference between nightmare maps and t17s

[native abyss]

frogs my beloved

don’t sleep on the frogs you heard it here first

[rugged anchor]

Fountain my beloved

[gentle chasm]

is there anything of value from the new breach bosses

[hoary scarab]

there is new breach bosses?

[gentle chasm]

yea

[hoary scarab]

oh you mean those

[native abyss]

i thought that just opens a hive on your map

[hoary scarab]

yeah you farm the rings and then 5 to 1 them for the big ring

[final owl]

it takes you to the new breach bosses

[native abyss]

oh

[whole bluff]

Tree tree still pog tree. Feels like wombgifts are overflowing though? I assume that means you should maximise unstable breaches for graftblood

[noble sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/live/X5sPJ_uIuVU?si=mr3lLZohNtIBrTkL I may try this build out maybe, he’s doing HSSSF. Idk when I get my cousin into this game again, I’d like for him to play a good op build. Last time we played was vsof which was more close your eyes and let it auto track everything.

[native abyss]

my mistake disregard

[cosmic eagle]

last body part, bloodline ascendancy

[cosmic eagle]

it keeps giving me provisioning my storage is almost full

[hoary scarab]

oh yeah uul ammy is also from the breach boss

[tough anchor]

dam rituals are pretty good, constant divines

[slender adder]

i just dropped a tattoo of rongokurai turtle in campaign, how is that posssible? isnt it a kingsmarch thing now (?)

[whole bluff]

Me and that thing duked it out for like 4 hours yesterday. 1h to find it, like 6 attempts to beat it. Definitely not worth the time in retrospect

[proud gorge]

It's one of the campaign changes, an island with some enemies that drop basic tattoos

[whole bluff]

Makes sense. Can't you 3:1 them though?

[proud gorge]

In Act 6, near Tukohama

[slender adder]

oh shoot cool, ill wait for this tattoo to appreciate in value ig before i sell

[whole bluff]

If graftblood is the real limiting factor

[cosmic eagle]

ngl i have no idea ill try that maybe it will work, fortress gives 6k blood per attempt so it's really juicy

[proud gorge]

There's some other interesting new campaign things, like a free random Transfigured gem in Act 9

[whole bluff]

Fortresses are nice too yup

[split maple]

You can

[mild bison]

how is max number of spectres calculated when you run 2 separate spectres gems?

[stoic horizon]

shared but each gem cant go above its own maximum

[slender adder]

love that, it introduces the "new" stuff earlier on

[whole bluff]

I honestly have no idea what's best for graftblood. Fortresses basically just give a ton, but take so long. Give the equivalent of some ancient wombgifts for free though, and that seems to be the best one

[cosmic eagle]

dude i tried to kill the group in act 6 i thought they give runegraft, gave me a stun tattoo

[whole bluff]

Lul

[stoic horizon]

why would karui give runegrafts

[final owl]

i'd rather gouge my legs off with a spoon than do any of the defense breaches ever again. unstable or none kthx.

[whole bluff]

Not that I got much of value from ancient wombgift. But I sold a wand from a graft chest for 60c.

It's most expensive though

[fossil mural]

its probably still bosses

they should be the fastest and gave like 4k blood

[whole bluff]

Vruun farm

[final owl]

unstable is nice leveling xp without any faff. i like it well enough. gifts / blood is just a side bonus i don't care much about

[past mantle]

Best is fortress, otherwise unstables.

[whole bluff]

You mean Vruun? Or the Hivebrain Gland duo? I don't remember them giving any

[whole bluff]

Fair

[past mantle]

I do hives just because I'm doing map progression so only one per map works for me.

And then I get a nice fortress once in a while.

[cosmic eagle]

mark showed a runegraft in the live reveal

[fossil mural]

duo gives blood since like midleague patch in 3.27

[past mantle]

Timestamp link?

[whole bluff]

Then I must have missed it a ton of times. Iirc they didn't give much at all, but I could definitely be wrong

[split maple]

Isn't it like 2500 blood tho?

I don't remember them being all that good

[past mantle]

They're not great for blood.

[final owl]

not good for anything then are they

[split maple]

Good at having phases ig

[fossil mural]

26 wave one gives as much and is way slower

[whole bluff]

Fwiw, hivebrain gland is 2c, if you overgear and crush it, it should be quick. Also the chests are good

[split maple]

Like 4x as much no?

[past mantle]

Fortress is 5k minimum in t16s.

[frozen night]

[fossil mural]

where tf are you all getting anything this patch

[past mantle]

With the occasional 8k.

[whole bluff]

I really don't remember bosses giving much blood, while fortresses give giga

[fossil mural]

is my luck just abysmal dogshit

[past mantle]

Idk man I just play the game.

[split maple]

In the end we gonna figure out salty's account loot was shadow banned

[past mantle]

Deserved.

[whole bluff]

Unstable might be good cuz you can probably average 6 per map

[teal eagle]

im at 15divs right now. need a templar build for no lifing strongboxes lol.

Waiting to sell some other stuff too, but it should be enough?

[past mantle]

3 unstables are about a hive.

So if you want as little as possible investment and time you can just hive it.

[frozen night]

4 hours until flight home and then I can finally league start tonight. At least this way I skipped the server issues

[odd cloud]

Can someone help me with Hits can't be evaded craft? Where do I get it? Bench says "factory" but the map says it has crit rank 3 oO

[whole bluff]

Idr, my vague recollections are like:

• Unstable 500-600
• Hive 1000
• Fortress 5000
• Bosses 0? 500? 2500?

[noble sleet]

Is sunder pretty good for aoe?

[whole bluff]

Or make fortress avg higher tbh

[grizzled lily]

has anyone ever gotten something good from the new rogue guy?

[past mantle]

Hive is about 1.5k for me.

[waxen shale]

does "soul thief" works with mines?

[whole bluff]

Ah, hmm

[terse sleet]

@whole bluff what u decide to do on assassin?

[flat elk]

not me only found out 4 years later, I've been finding and completing every trials in maps, in the past 10 leagues...

[whole bluff]

I assume you got nodes though, so I guess then you get more

[whole bluff]

Idk atm

[gentle chasm]

[past mantle]

Yeah you get nodes. Unstable nodes don't help with blood unlike Hive ones.

[terse sleet]

How lil your lvl 88 or something??

[flat elk]

I literally just used my second atlas tree to path for that, changing my farming strat so I can be looking for trials at the same time

[compact bronze]

sorry, how do i activate maps

[past mantle]

Click on a map on the atlas.

And insert the map item into the menu that opens up.

[flat elk]

click on map device, pick a map, put in map, open

[past mantle]

Blue ones.

[compact bronze]

ohh, i didnt notice those are buttons

[crisp obsidian]

yeah the blue is kinda bad

[drowsy eagle]

just need 4 arrows pointing for the first time

[barren river]

@calm hatch casey do you know that its considered rude when you are not responding to my messages

btw what class are you playing

[plush galleon]

does attack speed on the wand affect KF totems?

[livid halo]

how good is greater skeleton + massive shrine on RF?

[opaque sphinx]

[hoary scarab]

you need a whole guided tutorial from what ive seen from some people

[stoic horizon]

if there is no shrine effect there is no point in skeleton

[livid halo]

why's that

[stoic horizon]

the skeletons you spawn arent enemies

[livid halo]

is their single target dmg bad?

[stoic horizon]

nonexistent

[icy zinc]

fuckin cool man, 102% less flask effect

who cares shrine belt

aka dead baby belt

[noble sleet]

Uhh does that affect the shrine belt tho?

[opaque sphinx]

gl bowl then we hit it

[icy zinc]

no, but the point of not having flasks is

[brazen vector]

Still slow mode?

[fickle glen]

Anyone know if the force wall can block boss’s beam attacks?

[dark grove]

Right i forgot to not shield dash into chickens in kingsmarch

[icy zinc]

bro is this not on the currency exchange

istg

[gentle chasm]

yea they mentioned in the news post

[icy zinc]

who tf reads news posts, okay tho fine

been looking up for one so many times

seems like mandatory scarab one or the other for so many scenarios

[frank wraith]

can opalescent strongboxes contain valuable things or is it always trash jewels?

[rose vault]

mannn

thats so bad

they are out of range so i cant even get the rewards xD

[opaque sphinx]

[fossil mural]

lmao I am level 90 and only have 2 yellow beasts

[icy zinc]

the watchers eye gamblers buy like 100 rare beasts lol

in bulk

[short prairie]

Where aspd

[lilac notch]

Does the Woespike unique ring still only drop off of uber Incarnation of Fear? If so, what is the drop chance?

[opaque sphinx]

[icy zinc]

still uber fear and drop rate is 53%~

[short prairie]

yolo slam + 2 arrows

[shrewd fiber]

What's the best way for farming astrolabes? How do i pump my maps full of map bosses

[opaque sphinx]

maybe a conq slam good

[icy zinc]

wtf ele b*w

[lilac notch]

Aight ty

[tawdry knoll]

why loot filter doesn show this: general - highlioght specific bases ;

nothing works; nothing highlighted

[opaque sphinx]

shaper slam is actually pretty good here

[severe mountain]

Most important lesson of this league is that Fubgun's builds are pretty shit