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neon veldt
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10h campaign incoming for me probably

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i dont really care about the speed

long berry
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make sense

leaden gust
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10h is actually very good if you are somewhat new or take it easy

crystal talon
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Why you try and lift thing too heavy and/or too much

cosmic reef
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yo guys best cosmetic in the game on sale rn btw

dusty mesa
neon veldt
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well maybe not 10h campaign, keepers was a bit funky cuz i did every breach in every zone

soft perch
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im starting ele hit which is like a stupidly fast campaign so

dusty mesa
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am*

crystal talon
dim sonnet
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how does elder and conquorer maps works with the new atlas ? can i pick the map that i want ?

dusty mesa
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I've been in the gym, just not lifting heavy

soft perch
crystal talon
leaden gust
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cleared you for what? what was wrong with you

hoary scarab
crystal talon
dusty mesa
leaden gust
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XD

dusty mesa
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my muscles ate themselves

neon veldt
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i used to go to the gym, but then my roomate decided to start going to the gym at 7am, and i really do not like going to the gym alone and i cannot wake up that early

leaden gust
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you tore a muscle?

narrow yoke
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Anyone know of some good forearm warm ups before start tomorrow?

leaden gust
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oh rabdo?

crystal talon
soft perch
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rhabdomyolosis means a bunch of proteins from muscles gets into the blood

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and it overwhelms the fuck out of your kidneys cuz of all the urea

leaden gust
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yea i know what it is

hoary scarab
dusty mesa
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my piss was brown

onyx adder
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FUCK

leaden gust
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i have no idea how you managed to do that. its not exactly the easiest condition to get

dusty mesa
hoary scarab
neon veldt
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wonder if mathil will cosplay tomorrow again

hoary scarab
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ofc he will

neon veldt
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his zana cosplay was peak

onyx adder
neon veldt
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idk if he can ever top that

onyx adder
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fuck wrong embed

soft perch
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ye rhabdo usually is more of a climb/hike injury no?

soft perch
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where u push urself too hard to the point of exhaustion cuz u have to

dusty mesa
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and old people

onyx adder
soft perch
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ive heard stories of people scaling mountains getting it

dusty mesa
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probably

leaden gust
# dusty mesa I go too hard in gym

Yea i mean i work out 6 days a week myself. guess i dont push myself that hard. Well I did have to take a 5 day break after doing 25m 100% sprints swims for the first time. almost catatonic for 3 days XD

soft perch
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i push myself really hard by playing poe for 30 hours straight on leaguestarts

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im like you if you think about it

dusty mesa
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it was really dumb, but either way

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Tomorrow I down energy drinks and get at least 2 voidstones

onyx adder
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well now u have some nolifing to look forward to

leaden gust
neon veldt
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had a big pharmacology test today, so now my mind will be free for a while, so i can nolife PoE

soft perch
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@onyx adder lol jung dropped some new tech for poison

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autoexertion generals cry cyclone withering touch

dusty mesa
hoary scarab
gritty garnet
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is there any extra duration from gen cry doing it?

crystal talon
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it is just 6 dudes channeling for a second

soft perch
hoary scarab
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just medium cluster

soft perch
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medium cluster is on crit and has a 10% chance to proc

gritty garnet
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cluster or rampage gloves but most melee builds need that slot

granite ridge
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Are we getting exceptional gem info??

soft perch
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and then its 25% wither on hit

hoary scarab
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oh wait im too crit poison pilled i guess

soft perch
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which means u have to hit 16 times a second

crystal talon
neon veldt
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we saw a few

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like the new shockwave looks good

amber pawn
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"of spells" ggg really has its favorites 😄

granite ridge
onyx adder
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id legitimately rather toad people

soft perch
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gen cry doesnt delete corpses

crystal talon
onyx adder
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what

hazy kiln
onyx adder
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how much does cyclone hit

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on gencry

crystal talon
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Depends on your attack speed, but it channels for a second

soft perch
hoary scarab
onyx adder
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ok actually not too bad

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doesnt cap wither without a bunch of attack speed but if ur an attack build then sure i can see it

hoary scarab
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leagie starting exceptional gem builds everyone

soft perch
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

dim sonnet
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do we know how elder guardians and conquorers works with the new atlas ?

hazy kiln
hazy kiln
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cause why not

crystal talon
dim sonnet
neon veldt
rancid peak
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Are the imbued supports any NON exceptional gems or is it still unknown?

limpid prairie
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how are not more people playing Static strike Sabateur the build of the league

dim sonnet
hoary scarab
dim sonnet
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imagine mesa farming conquorers

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its 1 minute invitation

rancid peak
dim sonnet
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damn do i make a miner ?

hoary scarab
onyx adder
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6x3

neon veldt
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seems cool

crystal talon
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oh fuck

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withering touch is 25%

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what is this bullshit

dim sonnet
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mb day 2

onyx adder
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yea this was my first instinct

crystal talon
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actually worthless support

onyx adder
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i just didnt understand gencry

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but yea anyway

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toad people

hoary scarab
neon veldt
dim sonnet
cosmic reef
dim sonnet
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i feel like im getting baited there is no way they will let us do it kek

spark totem
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rip pob update did not contain gems

neon veldt
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but like, since conq and elder guardian maps should just drop as normal maps with the implicits

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we should be able to choose

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i think

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probably

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maybe

dim sonnet
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damn thats insane

neon veldt
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not confirmed

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but like

dim sonnet
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i mean yea how else will they do it :

naive turret
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Has the new season started?

neon veldt
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bossers for should be nice for tho, cuz more carries to do, since ppl will need carries to do all the nightmare maps for the atlas points (probably)

blazing nymph
dim sonnet
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carrying is a hassle

naive turret
gentle ice
# naive turret Has the new season started?

Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone

neon veldt
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cuz honeslty idk how my 2mil dps RF could do nightmare maps for example

dim sonnet
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this reminds me when they first added maven and farming bosses was insane money before the market adjusted

dim sonnet
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i was making a mirror a day on feared. good times

thick goblet
neon veldt
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is it any bosses or like elder and shaper and stuff

dim sonnet
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if you just go straight to the boss most maps are not too bad

kindred depot
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when the new PoB is coming?

dim sonnet
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ggg did mention that maven extra bosses can also drop the exceptional gems. do they all drop the same one from the map ?

cerulean breach
worldly bridge
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it wasnt that bad since i was playing rf and didnt have MS boots

gritty epoch
kindred depot
dim sonnet
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i think it will be insane eitherway

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damn now do i actually play mines ?

fringe ermine
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I thought later in the league to play as Divine bash MoM

neon veldt
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yea, bossing seems good this league, but i hate it, so nah

dim sonnet
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i dont think mines are that good in delve right ?

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i love bossing sadly it never is good

worldly bridge
neon veldt
tight plinth
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Guys how many hours?

neon veldt
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like 18

gentle ice
# tight plinth Guys how many hours?

Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone

tight plinth
dim sonnet
dim sonnet
worldly bridge
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so good luck to you!

neon veldt
dim sonnet
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ill probably will just play praw the good ol reliable

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or maybe spectres or poison golems

neon veldt
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i'll go RF>complete atlas> farm a few div for a comfy swap > CWS > ultimatum

dim sonnet
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go in kill boss go out

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i think praw might be a bit slow since i have to lose few seconds summoning

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so either spectres or jolems

neon veldt
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pathfinder specters didnt get touched

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seems funky

onyx adder
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hey do we have stats on the holy strike dudes

royal rover
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did the poe regex just change to exclude t17's?

neon veldt
onyx adder
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are they animate weapon of reflections or what

neon veldt
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just that they copy your weapon and use the skill themselves

onyx adder
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yea ok

civic charm
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Does archmage scale into the endgame?

neon veldt
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yes

royal rover
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ya

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just search up any palestron guide

steady elk
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where we droppin boys

gritty epoch
neon veldt
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i pray that brutus drops me a wanderlust

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has happened twice i think

rancid peak
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Caint wait to wake up at 5:45 am on a Saturday to update, just to go back to sleep for another 2 hours 🤣

neon veldt
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lol

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league launches at 21.00 for me

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thats like at least 4h before i go eep

wintry lily
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3am moment here

neon veldt
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with my speed i might get to act5

steady elk
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midnight for me

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fucking kiwis man

neon veldt
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eastern europe winning

steady elk
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my bed time is 10.30

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😔

neon veldt
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my bedtime is when my body passes out or my roomate goes to sleep

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so

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completely random

opal ingot
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17 hours left

gentle ice
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this league mechanic doesn't seem very interesting during the campaign so i might have a decent campaign time this league 👀

neon veldt
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nahh

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i'll be doing it in every zone

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classic 10h campaign for me

gentle ice
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yeah i would have if it was in the same zone, but the fact it's a separated area with a load meh

wintry lily
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Every league I skip league mech in acts its always some fucking juiced unique shitter

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every league I dont skip the mech its some shitter that drops 5 transmute in act 7

opal ingot
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wtf is this kek

wintry lily
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which will it be

lethal berry
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ahk script in the description 💀

neon veldt
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MODS

wintry lily
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recommending an ahk script for his build is crazy

neon veldt
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BAN THAT YOUTUBERS ACCOUNT

wraith rock
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BOT! HELP!

normal hedge
true falcon
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Wha123t is wrong with tha123t?

neon veldt
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pathfinder without flask automations is awful

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i always rush it

lean urchin
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the selfreports are rolling in

neon veldt
wintry lily
rancid peak
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Having a Bedtime on a Friday 💀

normal hedge
opal ingot
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i mean it's just 123mouse4mouse5 button build so i guess it's fine

crisp obsidian
opal ingot
true falcon
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Is against ToS for my butler to press my flasks for me

neon veldt
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pathfinder gameplay: 123q123q123q123e123w123q123q

opal ingot
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i followed his oshabi lifestacking EB during phrecia 2.0 so i kept a close eye on his builds

wintry lily
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Especially if your butler uses an ice cream stick

opal ingot
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he posted one just recently and it has an ahk script XDD

potent bramble
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Memes aside, have y'all appreciated GGG recently for improving accessibility by adding a currency to make flasks automatic?

wintry lily
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death penalty to stick abusers.

opal ingot
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it automates his mana flask

potent bramble
neon veldt
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i dont even remember times before flask automations

wintry lily
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Either ways, the unspoken rule is dont show and dont tell

true falcon
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I forgot if nearby always means 4m or recently always means 4s

wintry lily
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Bro is really tempting a ggg bonk with it

true falcon
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I know one of them is consistent but I forgot which one

lethal berry
opal ingot
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meanwhile

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nearby is relative

wintry lily
opal ingot
true falcon
opal ingot
neon veldt
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nearby should be the whole screen honeslty

neon veldt
wintry lily
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If ggg removes nearby, gives me an in-game unit indicator and all "nearby" uniques/mods show what range they operate in, I'll gladly buy 3 of the most expensive supporter packs

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Fuck I'll take nautical miles over fucking nearby

neon veldt
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they changed it's description to actually indicate the range

wintry lily
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I mean all of it

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I do understand its going to take a while tho

tender notch
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I think they did that in the patch notes I thought, didn’t they change nearby on a lot of stuff to be specific?

karmic gust
wintry lily
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it still runs nearby tho for the record

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"Nearby allies"

placid comet
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Is there an mtx that tracks the currency gained from async trade?

potent bramble
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I think the number 1 qol I would want - which I understand we won't get - is the ability to automate alt+aug rolling. Or even just alts, pick up to 4 mods and throw it in a tumbler, use player-provided alt orbs until you hit or run out

civic charm
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once you hit indigon cap does it stop ramping mana cost?

opal ingot
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i wonder if there is. would be funny

neon veldt
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nearby is anywhere between 1 and 8 meters

crisp obsidian
wintry lily
true falcon
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Add TLI loot key

opal ingot
potent bramble
true falcon
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So comfy mashing a button to pickup loot nearby

wintry lily
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give tli branded autocraft and lootkey and I'd be happy tbh

karmic gust
fallow escarp
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It’s cheaper to buy apothecary day 1-4 than a straight up mageblood right?

crisp obsidian
wintry lily
# potent bramble Definetly maybe. I've no idea what TLI is

Torchlight infinite is a arpg on mobile and pc with some gacha for pets that gives better stuff to league mechanics and damage/defenses, their crafting system is shrimple as fuck, pick a valid mod on the item, roll until you run out of currency manually/automatically.

surreal mulch
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btw do map stash tabs now hold like considerably less maps or did they buff them?

gentle ice
surreal mulch
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idk i never played poe2

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i guess i can go fish for screenshots

wintry lily
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Oh yeah, map got changed, forgot to ask if this is a buff or a nerf to map tabs

surreal mulch
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poe2ification

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oh cool thank

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gosh thats a lot of tab per tab

wintry lily
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Huge buff

karmic gust
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yeae spikey talked about it before

surreal mulch
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its even taller

karmic gust
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it cant cap withers

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looking at his pob it still cant even with as

potent bramble
surreal mulch
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old

potent bramble
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I get why we don't/can't, and I'm not even fully disagreeing with the logic... but man it'd be nice sometimes

wintry lily
crystal talon
wintry lily
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even in tli, a t1 mod can cost 100s of attempts

crystal talon
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assuming he even uses temp chain

wintry lily
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The only difference compared to poe at least is tli items dont reroll the entire thing for crafting

wintry lily
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which poe does.

karmic gust
opal ingot
crystal talon
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jung man bad at game

karmic gust
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actually le tme check wither duration as its scaled by skill effect, but still would need to last like 3.5 or 4 seconds right

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for this to cap

potent bramble
karmic gust
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yea he has no duration just temp chains

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i mean its fine, very overcomplicated way of pressing withering step i guess :d

crystal talon
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Oh I see

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He is literally just using it for leveling in acts

potent bramble
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Alternatively, could be an interesting chaos sink. Pick some number of mods/tiers, feed chaos, and just chaos spam on a rare until it hits at least one of the mods. Literally just to reduce spam clicking/rsi

crystal talon
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wait nvm he is using it for 2 stone

wintry lily
crystal talon
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cause no GCPs for pconc

karmic gust
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yea im looking at the eater/exarch setup

crystal talon
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idk man

karmic gust
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i would legit rather just press withering step

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why go to these lengths

bleak shore
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I think I've decided to try and do divine blast tommorow. The new shield skill seems fun.

crystal talon
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surely he gets 20q on pconc before hitting bouncing in lab

karmic gust
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he doesnt have mistwalker anyway

potent bramble
crystal talon
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yeah idk. I guess it is okay. prob a bit stronger than withering step, but also why not use both

amber agate
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Is it possible to get carried for the challenges? I really want the armor set but I don't like poe1 and I'm shit at the game

karmic gust
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yea

crisp obsidian
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cause of socket space

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I guess

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no weapon so less sockets

crystal talon
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Blink CD is only reason I can think of

wintry lily
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You'd have a better chance smashing the items together than spamming alt aug regal alch scour etc anyways

potent bramble
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Like t1 chaos res, or movement speed on boots, etc

buoyant steppe
wintry lily
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Counterpoint, who the fuck is going from white item to base to recomb unless they're stuck in ssf land

potent bramble
buoyant steppe
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what is everyone doing before league tomorrow

karmic gust
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sleeping probably

final owl
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being at work

buoyant steppe
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you are going to play 20 hours on league start?

neon veldt
potent bramble
buoyant steppe
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league is tomorrow right

keen veldt
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pre leg hibernation
tonight is obligatory anything but poe night

limpid prairie
karmic gust
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tomorrow yes

potent bramble
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Then play for 36 hours, crash, get up, and go see grandmother for lunch

karmic gust
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i still need to make leveling pob

keen veldt
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I have practiced my starter to maps 4 times lol

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my body is ready

buoyant steppe
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are you all going to rush to end game

karmic gust
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also was pobbing early miner damage, mines are so reliant on crit i guess it makes sense why people dont go rolling magma super early

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why does that skill have 5% base crit lol

potent bramble
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Soft rush, but yeah

buoyant steppe
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is t16.5 still in game or its just t17 thats removed

silver linden
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im going lacerate occultist i cant rush

limpid prairie
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How bad is to change main skill in Siosa? Im scared of being too weak with a lvl 1 gem

karmic gust
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originators are still in the game

potent bramble
karmic gust
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just equip it for a bit then to level it up

keen veldt
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depends on the gem, can always run around with it on backbar for a bit

potent bramble
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If you aren't strong enough to go with lvl 1

limpid prairie
blissful zodiac
neon veldt
crystal talon
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Jung's respec build icant

noble sleet
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So we know what shrine buffs will and won’t be on the belt or if any other ones have been nerfed? Not sure if they’re gonna make us discover tht on our own

potent bramble
neon veldt
lean urchin
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divine shrine wont

keen veldt
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cmon ggg!!!

nocturne maple
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average day 2 jung build

cerulean breach
karmic gust
potent bramble
neon veldt
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NEVER trust a jungroan leaguestart

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it is bait

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unless you are very good

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i am not

karmic gust
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man how did he capped crit for PA on grey wind life stacker, respect

keen veldt
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uber Dan league starts only

neon veldt
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real

crystal talon
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and counting the 100% more

noble sleet
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Hope they don’t do any last minute changes to other shrines. I haven’t seen anything on echo shrine

karmic gust
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ff both parts technology :d

crystal talon
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real information

leaden gust
wheat sinew
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Goated video

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Would recommend

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Atlas highlights are so niceeee man

soft perch
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love how everyones practising 2 stones when kirac missions are removed

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and now map progression is probably completely different and way slower

molten hazel
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heck yer pob is updated

neon veldt
soft perch
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no

neon veldt
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no one is sure

soft perch
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u use kirac to skip map tiers

leaden gust
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its 100% faster

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as you can choose which map to run

karmic gust
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2 times faster? damn

leaden gust
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and dont have to have next map drop or hit a horizon

soft perch
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its faster to complete your atlas

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it should be slower to get to t16s

neon veldt
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maybe, yea

wheat sinew
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We got a bunch of extra maps/tiers support on tree

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We shall see

final owl
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I think the sensible thing to do is argue about it more now

wheat sinew
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Wuh

karmic gust
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well do you want to talk about knitting instead in poe discord

cerulean breach
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I think the sensible thing to do would be to sense

cerulean breach
leaden gust
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mfw patreons hide how many supporters they have. kills my interest in joining

cerulean breach
buoyant steppe
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what do you all think the best build will be in 3.28

molten hazel
neon veldt
leaden gust
surreal musk
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str stack undeniable

buoyant steppe
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what about int stack

final owl
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ok, cats, mine delivered a mouse at 3am and wouldn't shut up about it

final forgeBOT
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soft perch
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str stack or mana stack

molten hazel
cerulean breach
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so a beta version is out

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doesn't mean its updated 😄

buoyant steppe
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int stack dead?

cerulean breach
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but sure, thanks

karmic gust
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str stack something especially with the scary new timeless that can make it even scarier

soft perch
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if we get poe2 heroic tragedy keystones str stack is fkin broken

fallow cargo
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anyone tried the fusillade ballista without the reduced skill effect duration uniques? considering starting it on SSF

molten hazel
wheat sinew
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Poe2 has heroic tragedy?

neon veldt
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can you make a super duper tanky str stack build?

wheat sinew
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👀

karmic gust
wheat sinew
neon veldt
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hmmm

molten hazel
wheat sinew
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They are almost immortal to most non valdo content

molten hazel
wheat sinew
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Naaah

neon veldt
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then the plan is : RF > CWS > Ultimatum for a while > STR stack

wheat sinew
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Just time

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I got 3 str stackers setup in gsf

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Happy days

karmic gust
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well self farming sublime fire sounds like a lot of time :d

leaden gust
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wasnt cws setup gutted?

wheat sinew
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Yes that's one thing I didn't go for xD

buoyant steppe
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str stack has poor defense, trying to make it tanky will be really hard

wheat sinew
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Well I went for it but ugh yeah

cerulean breach
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ugh still don't know if I should level with ignite or rf elementalist

wheat sinew
neon veldt
karmic gust
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obviously you are supposed to level with new searing bond

wheat sinew
leaden gust
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just go tonky cyclone shockwave slayer and spin2win

cerulean breach
crisp obsidian
wheat sinew
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You don't really need damage

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You got a bunch already

soft perch
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i actually cant believe people are considering new searing bond

wheat sinew
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They are insane yeah

karmic gust
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its the best skill

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i heard it on internet somewhere

crisp obsidian
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if db says it's the best skill then you better believe

wheat sinew
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League starting swt antiquarian

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Gonna be funz

brazen vector
wheat sinew
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Or yk play explodey with flamewood support

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And be tanky and deal dmg

neon veldt
leaden gust
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probably the most uncertain ive been about which leaguestarter to pick because I always want to pick one i can transition into end game juicer without leveling a new char. ZzZ

brazen vector
neon veldt
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idk

cerulean breach
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NOOOOOOOOOOO

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THE WIKI IS DOWN

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nvm back up

leaden gust
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poewiki is not down

brazen vector
#

W

lean urchin
#

bro using fandom

neon veldt
#

kek

neon veldt
#

ok it is 4am and i have a seminar at 8.30

cerulean breach
neon veldt
#

gn gooners

timber linden
#

hi guys , im planning to do ignite elementalist , is it better to go frenzy stack or crit with the new belt?

cerulean breach
#

...what

karmic gust
#

neither maybe

blissful zodiac
#

im finna do ele hit slayer

soft perch
worthy cave
#

Guys question

#

does arcane surge's mana regeneration rate affect

#

mana recovery from flasks?

lean urchin
#

no

soft perch
#

claw if u want dps paradoxica if u want a more well rounded build with block

worthy cave
#

damn it 😭

soft perch
#

paradoxica dps is barely worse than claw tho

#

and mostly cuz it spends more points on claw nodes compared to clicking block

runic raptor
#

Whats this?

karmic gust
#

new bloodline

delicate ether
potent bramble
#

For y'all who have some experience and better memory than I do, what's the longest queue you remember seeing at launch?

worthy cave
#

Guys I have a Warden question about Enduring Suffusion

#

Does it slow down how quickly you build up mana burn stacks

lean urchin
#

there was this bugged one that went over 8 billion iirc

worthy cave
#

Or just how little mana gets burned?

#

Because if I want to increase how fast I take mana burn stacks

#

Doesn't it actively hurt me?

potent bramble
lean urchin
#

it usually gets spammed here

#

on bad launches

potent bramble
#

I suppose

lean urchin
#

no i dont have numbers

potent bramble
#

I feel like I remember one that was around 80k, but I might be totally off

lean urchin
#

sounds too little

hazy kiln
worthy cave
#

Dman it 🙁

#

Meaning it slows down sap of the seasons ramp

hazy kiln
#

indeed

final owl
#

leagues always launch at weird time for us southern hemisphere peeps. I don't think i've ever actually queued :I

worthy cave
#

Also @hazy kiln is it intentional that there are no instilling orbs for life/mana flasks and tinctures?

#

Because considering that a mana flask may be sustainable by say tides of time

#

or warden may be able to permanently sustain tinctures

#

I'd love to be able to instill tinctures to "use when cooldown is up"

zealous pebble
#

Work tends to be a problem for me, bring back the 6pm est launches kek

worthy cave
#

or instill mana flasks to "use when charges reach full"

#

Considering the new amulet, Khetal's Geyser, would allow us to keep a mana flask running permanently

idle lintel
#

does anyone know what HOLY WORD does?

worthy cave
#

but just having to constantly press the mana flask = super-irritating

hazy kiln
worthy cave
#

In other words, it's just a nerf to warden then

lean urchin
cobalt blade
worthy cave
#

since that's the only time that's applicable

final owl
#

ggg has always been reticent to allow automation stuff havent they

zealous pebble
#

It's new

idle lintel
worthy cave
#

Yes.

sage falcon
#

nerf implies a deviation from a base position

final owl
#

i wanna say i feel like i've read they somewhat regret instilling orbs being a thing at all

sage falcon
#

but part of the base proposition of the tincture is that it can't be automated

cobalt blade
sage falcon
#

so that's built-in into the concept of an ascendancy about tinctures

#

therefore, it is not a nerf

cobalt blade
#

(nerf in quotations be cause balance decision lol)

worthy cave
#

So then it's up to us to create our own instilling orbs?

tranquil umbra
hazy kiln
# worthy cave In other words, it's just a nerf to warden then

bloon already basically said this, but yeah it depends on what some hypothetical automation would look like, what other balance changes would have to be made as a result of this automation existing, etc. there is no world in which automated tinctures existing would not cause a cascade of other changes, so looking at what would happen if tincture automation was added and nothing else changed isn't particularly useful.

worthy cave
#

Okay, maybe just attach it to Enduring Suffusion, then?

wary escarp
#

No I will respond with picture of my physique

#

I was impressing a basian baddie

worthy cave
crisp obsidian
worthy cave
#

so for anyone wihtout enduring suffusion, that wouldn't make sense to even use

wary escarp
crisp obsidian
#

what an idiot(this is a joke mods)

lucid gale
potent bramble
#

Oof

lean urchin
#

ice crash?

wary escarp
#

882 horsepower is hard around corners

worthy cave
wary escarp
sonic vault
#

hypothetically

lucid gale
#

You can't park there mate.

uneven gust
#

wrong chat sorry

worthy cave
earnest raven
lean urchin
worthy cave
#

Same thing with automating a life flask--it only makes sense on a Pathfinder

uneven gust
sonic vault
worthy cave
#

Sure, put it on Enduring Suffusion

crystal talon
sonic vault
#

kinda comes down to how "smart" it is

worthy cave
#

Like maybe pathfinders don't want to automate any life flask

uneven gust
#

frostblades slayer into statisc strike autobimber replica alberons replica frostbreath was the thought

worthy cave
#

Yeah the new mana amulet

karmic gust
#

i think putting automation on ascendancies is the worst idea ever

cobalt blade
#

theres a life one too

worthy cave
#

absolutely makes warden go nuts

potent bramble
karmic gust
#

i like pathfinedr but that would be such a stupid design

potent bramble
#

Not saying it's automatically required, but definetly could be exploited I think

worthy cave
uneven gust
#

warden=you want dps numbers in pob
slayer = you want to live and deal more dps because the warden used 3 portals

worthy cave
#

okay they reached full when you were at 3900/4k life

karmic gust
#

and same for warden

worthy cave
#

so you dropped 15 charges for nothing

sonic vault
cobalt blade
#

+instant life flasks

final owl
#

if automating flasks is required to make those things make sense i have a feeling ggg would probably prefer to rework those things to not only make sense with automation

worthy cave
#

at which point it's always correct to have it going assuming you can sustain it

sonic vault
# cobalt blade

i mean you can just press flask along with every other input and it would be better because it wouldnt need to hit full charges to proc kek

cobalt blade
#

but also you can scale charge gain

hazy kiln
#

my understanding from this is that you feel like enduring suffusion is currently not an enjoyable experience to use because it requires pressing your tinctures every few seconds. I feel like automating tinctures for this ascendancy node specifically would be a bandaid/suboptimal solution.

this is just me chatting, not any suggestion that we'd ever do this, but I think if the goal was to make enduring suffusion smooth and maintenance-free, it would be better to just make it permanently apply tincture effects without having to use them at all, mageblood style

cobalt blade
#

and it should affect entrench

boreal bay
#

need help, what do you guys use for downloading .torrent?

final owl
hazy kiln
#

why bandaid it when that's basically the goal

worthy cave
#

well what happens to the mana burn then?

#

Would it just cycle?

hazy kiln
#

it would not apply at all

#

presumably at least

worthy cave
#

O_o

sonic vault
#

I think there is a middle ground of

worthy cave
#

I honestly LIKE that idea

#

but then you can't ramp sap of the seasons with it

sonic vault
#

power and feeling where people actually use something

worthy cave
#

but then I do think that seasoned hunter should be worked into experienced herbalist

#

or be its own keystone

karmic gust
#

that would result in the node most likely having 75% less tincture effect or some shit :d

worthy cave
#

Ewwwwwwwwwwww

#

The monkey's hand/paw curls

sonic vault
#

for the majority of people that engage with it

wary escarp
#

I am no longer auto modded @crystal talon

potent bramble
#

I definetly don't have enough experience with using tinctures (having never actually used one at all) to have an opinion on this specifically, but I would 1000% love to see a split between standard and core more than there already is - insofar as that there can be changes made to 'core' mechanics in leagues without affecting Standard. Especially now that HC dumps into the SC league and not Standard

sonic vault
#

not saying it necessarily would, but maybe

worthy cave
#

for "the majority", tinctures are supposed to be a temporary buff

karmic gust
worthy cave
#

it just got buffed

#

(it's still ass)

sonic vault
#

warden isnt the majority, it's worse than raider collapse

potent bramble
#

Which could then free up a lot more 'extreme' changes to see how they feel, without breaking everything that's ever been in Standard

karmic gust
#

yea

karmic gust
#

its still ass and its still 4 pointer :d

worthy cave
#

Warden is a 2% playrate ascendancy

worthy cave
sonic vault
#

would you even take barksin if all 4 points were only 2 points

karmic gust
#

yes

cobalt blade
#

its 2% playrate because people would rather play deadeye and steal one of the good warden nodes :p

worthy cave
#

squish the route into one node

karmic gust
#

like its same like with ele

sonic vault
karmic gust
#

they made the golem node 2 pointer

worthy cave
#

75 damage prevented per bark, no matter what kind of hit

cobalt blade
#

i love my limit 1 jewels

karmic gust
#

arguably ele was/is kinda broken but not only because of that

#

but it makes huge difference

worthy cave
karmic gust
#

and it allows you to click for example deli + barkskin

#

on warden

wary escarp
#

It’s pretty simple

sonic vault
karmic gust
#

and that actually has rly good synergy

wary escarp
#

Archmage is good

#

New spell good

sonic vault
#

because now you can afford the jewel on necromancer omegaLUL

wary escarp
#

Free repeats

#

Only thing worth playing is archmage

potent bramble
#

Like earlier I was suggesting making the middle loop of gems some sort of gateway like the Atlas tree has. It'd be impossible to balance around in any predictive way, but it could be a thing as just a "this might be ultra broken for a league" thing that doesn't affect characters in Standard. Maybe. I don't know if it'd be feasible with how everything works on the backend

civic charm
#

its gonna be a bow league again

worthy cave
#

like the thing is

sonic vault
#

fr some nodes the nerfs are buffs because otherwise the flesh and flames are a fuggen mirror

worthy cave
#

I don't know how rare that neck will be

sonic vault
#

when there are a few good ones to choose from its so much better

worthy cave
#

meanwhile ranger flesh/flames are all junk lmao

wary escarp
#

Why bow when immortal + damage exists

worthy cave
#

except tailwind and +2 proj

sonic vault
#

people smarter than me, is the templar flesh and flame situation going to be dire asf

karmic gust
worthy cave
#

new amulet is a warden amulet

wary escarp
worthy cave
#

allows you to Power of Purpose + sap of the seasons

#

with no other investment

karmic gust
wary escarp
#

I haven’t looked at the new uniques

karmic gust
#

nah it just gives surge effect and everything else

wary escarp
#

Outside of pledge buffs

#

I c

karmic gust
#

its pretty fat

crystal talon
#

new amulet makes all mana flask enduring. Then you use lasagna's spirit

karmic gust
#

and life recovery with runegraft or indigon

wary escarp
#

Isn’t pledge like a 1% drop rate

sonic vault
#

I forget are any of the hidden flesh and flames good

karmic gust
#

and hen you can play indigon archmage as well

#

with lasagna

onyx adder
worthy cave
#

Lasagna's spirit LMAO

onyx adder
#

not new spell

final owl
#

lasagnas is better, it just needs some cheese on it

wary escarp
civic charm
#

but u gotta press the flask every 3 seconds

wary escarp
#

Bfbb is still gutted no

onyx adder
#

idk what ur talking about

cobalt blade
#

all good

onyx adder
#

i just like bfbb

wary escarp
karmic gust
#

bfbb warden???

onyx adder
#

oh the shock nova

crystal talon
karmic gust
#

archmage??

sonic vault
onyx adder
#

that looks sketchy

wary escarp
cobalt blade
#

im gonna do the shock nova because it looks better than BLOO

onyx adder
#

fbnova got dunked

worthy cave
wary escarp
#

Did it?

sonic vault
#

is Harness the Void the fifth best one kek

worthy cave
#

its purpose is to cheese power of purpose

wary escarp
#

It’s either that or slams for hcssf tho

cobalt blade
#

and bloo to me feels fine on archmage even if the shocknova does end up feeling bad

karmic gust
cobalt blade
wary escarp
#

I guess I could go totems

#

But that sounds boring

sonic vault
wary escarp
#

I was looking at shockwave for a bit

wary escarp
sonic vault
#

totems actually make you feel like a CHAD

onyx adder
# wary escarp Did it?
Ice Nova of Frostbolts: Can now expand from up to 2 Frostbolt Projectiles (previously 4), and no longer has 25% less Area of Effect when Cast on Frostbolt. It now has a base radius of 1.8-2.2 metres at Gem levels 1-20 (previously 2.6-3 metres).
worthy cave
sonic vault
#

unless you're really yearning for the feel of selfcast blowing stuff up

wary escarp
#

Totems boring

sonic vault
#

it does feel nice just to drop the totem and keep strutting

wary escarp
#

I’d rather play minions than totems

#

And I hate minions

karmic gust
worthy cave
#

IDK how you'd be shocking things with bfbb

sonic vault
#

totems and skeletons are like mostly the same build kek

worthy cave
#

but I suppose there's a world in which you convert bfbb to cold

#

and then use heatshiver

wary escarp
#

Skeletons are for the impoverished and diseased

sage falcon
cerulean breach
#

imagine lightning warp totems with the old totem target acquisition range

worthy cave
#

go cloak of defiance maybe?

sonic vault
#

@wary escarp ur playing shockwave cyclone slayer

wary escarp
#

No, I’m playing shock nova of procession

onyx adder
#

processing straight to the dumpster

wary escarp
#

I’ve played too many melee builds in this shitty games

sonic vault
granite nexus
#

guardian gen cry is going to slap i know it

onyx adder
#

im playing explosive trap

wary escarp
crystal talon
onyx adder
#

somebody told me the single target scales with aoe

#

they must have been a smart guy

karmic gust
#

it also has turbo clear no

onyx adder
#

so im doing that

wary escarp
#

U were wrong

#

About explo

#

I posted on YouTube

onyx adder
#

oh we're blaming me now

#

are we

wary escarp
#

I slimed u

#

🔫🔫

#

We all know that the only viable league starter will be earthshatter berserker

#

Grafts will still give us 800 pdps axes day one

onyx adder
#

i keep telling ppl go play earthshatter of fragility

#

its good skill

#

nobody listen

wary escarp
#

I played that in a brosf

#

I just did it on the wrong ascendancy

onyx adder
#

see

wary escarp
#

It was not very good

gritty epoch
#

Noway

onyx adder
#

former almost fourth place shadow gauntlet player chemist endorses the skill

golden moat
#

so many homies gonna be in delve this league

lucid gale
#

Delvege frens

sonic vault
#

Sons of Steve

wary escarp
#

Did ggg fix Poe 2 yet

crystal talon
#

no sword 😔

#

no dagger 😔

sonic vault
#

No sword

wary escarp
#

I legitimately think their company revenues less than mine now

worldly bridge
#

no templar

sonic vault
#

No axe

worldly bridge
#

i highly doubt that

sonic vault
golden moat
sonic vault
#

Jimmy?

worthy cave
#

Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

#

I don't think the sap of the seasons tech works at all 😭

wary escarp
#

This place is too easy

onyx adder
#

its true chemist is #1 xbox player

worthy cave
#

because the split secnod your mana flask falls off

crystal talon
worthy cave
#

your 200 stacks just blow you out

wary escarp
worthy cave
#

if I'm correct

karmic gust
#

well dont make your mana flask fall off

wary escarp
#

They are doing shit to me

#

IRS will give me 20 virgins

worthy cave
karmic gust
#

yes

sonic vault
#

lmfao bro cant even evade taxes

worthy cave
#

ohhhhhhhhh

#

I thought it had to fall off first

crystal talon
worthy cave
#

so what does it mean when it says "X flask can't queue"?

wary escarp
#

Idk what that is

worthy cave
#

What's the purpose of that line?

crystal talon
#

This is why I know you are a big fat lair man pensiveplus

sonic vault
sonic vault
#

or mana or whatever

karmic gust
#

yea when ednuring first came out you could just spam click it and it would queue bunch of uses

sage falcon
wary escarp
#

Oh a corporate tax return

worldly bridge
#

thats the "qeue"

worthy cave
#

yeah

golden moat
#

can i petition GGG to make Blood Sacrament a skill gem and not a stat on a unique weapon?

sonic vault
wary escarp
#

@crystal talon you realize I got audited for not filing my taxes for five years when I was in Canada right

#

Why do you think I know this kinda shit

worldly bridge
#

you can fill your entire resource up with that qeue

worthy cave
#

ahhhhhhhhhh

worldly bridge
#

but with the "cannot qeue" mod you CANNOT do that

#

you have to wait for the full duratino of the flask effect

#

i think

onyx adder
#

im convinced ur like

worthy cave
#

And if you use it again

onyx adder
#

some form of alien labrador

sonic vault
#

@sage falcon hmm civil war eh, not good times

worthy cave
#

then it replaces teh current use

#

instead of queueing it

worldly bridge
#

i assume it just does nothing?

wary escarp
#

I did do something cool tho sec

worldly bridge
#

since you cant qeue it at all

worthy cave
#

but you still can use it while in use to refresh the rate

#

no

sage falcon
worthy cave
#

it refreshes the current use duration

worldly bridge
#

ive never used the mod so 🤷‍♀️

final owl
#

I havent filed in about 10 years. the last time i filed was for about 10 years combined. On top of it.

worldly bridge
#

im going off vibes

worthy cave
#

yeah, that's central to maintaining sap of teh seasons

potent bramble
worthy cave
#

because warden can get 100% tinc effect

#

wait, anyone can get 100% tinc effect

sonic vault
wary escarp
#

@crystal talon @onyx adder home theater in progress

golden moat
#

why do we get Smite as a starting skill on templar but we dont get faster attacks support until act 3

wary escarp
#

But the Russian dude I hired stole a subwoofer im pretty sure

sonic vault
#

divination card* sorry sorry don't shoot

worthy cave
#

but deadeye can't really play melee can she

worldly bridge
#

i mean

worldly bridge
#

you could

worthy cave
#

actually deadeye could play frost blades

#

chain frost blades +2 proj

onyx adder
worthy cave
#

though frosties already have an inbuilt 5

crystal talon
onyx adder
#

u stop making builds and start making furniture setups

#

its cool tho

worthy cave
#

uhhhh any good melee skill particularly for deadeye?

half stream
#

Where's ur PoB for your sectional

sonic vault
worthy cave
#

LS of arcing got blown up didn't it?

onyx adder
#

actually looking at it isnt it kinda low

wary escarp
#

Tbf I pretty much got a home theater to watch horror movies with her

onyx adder
#

am i crazy

wary escarp
sonic vault
crystal talon
prime needle
#

What's a fun prolif build for expedition

worldly bridge
#

mamba prob

golden moat
#

bros mid 30s watching horror movies

wary escarp
#

I thought so to but the installer told me that was the best height

lean urchin
#

its called the news

karmic gust
#

you are never too old to watch horror movies wtf

prime needle
#

looking at expedition prolif or like slams slayer

#

dont wanna join the KF hiero/champ meta

worldly bridge
#

slams safer start

#

even after nerf

prime needle
#

phaze bleed

prime needle
#

which didnt really get touched much either

sonic vault
#

real gamers gonna be holdin they girl tonight cause they gonna be locked in tomo

crystal talon
tranquil umbra
#

slams is worse damagewise but it's the same mechanically

prime needle
#

nah my wife's playing WoW midnight

crystal talon
#

installer you have was actually not braindead

sonic vault
prime needle
#

no holding tonight or for the next couple weeks lol

#

yeah

wary escarp
cosmic eagle
#

checking out the messiahs pob is scarier than any other horror movies

tranquil umbra
#

real

prime needle
#

which chair is that

#

i'm a fan

sonic vault
crystal talon
wary escarp
prime needle
#

embody?

crystal talon
#

It isn't too bad though don't worry about it.

wary escarp
prime needle
#

cant stand the aeron

sonic vault
#

wtf same chair as me

prime needle
#

have them at work and hate the mesh, they feel awful'

crystal talon
#

Mainly just want your neck not strained while looking at the center

final owl
#

don't you want center of screen to be eye level when sitting

tranquil umbra
sonic vault
#

@wary escarp what headphones u got

wary escarp
tranquil umbra
#

yeah my parents have a cupboard larger than the tv itself underneath it

prime needle
#

liked those but build quality was questionable

prime needle
#

sound was good

mental violet
#

holy how much is this gonna be worth o.O

sonic vault
tight plinth
#

Got the dr peppers, got snacks, im ready

crystal talon
onyx adder
#

probably

golden moat
wary escarp
earnest raven
wary escarp
#

They’re good for the gym as well

onyx adder
#

its too big for the room its in, thats for sure

cosmic eagle
#

i know someone who has the best chair that plays poe

tranquil umbra
#

you basically want to be TV to be eye-level without bending your neck

onyx adder
#

its a 75 inch tv and the room itself is like 6 metres end to end

zealous pebble
wary escarp
crystal talon
prime needle
onyx adder
wary escarp
#

Room is 16x16

onyx adder
#

not yours

wary escarp
#

Oh

mental violet
#

dr pepper 0 sugar is actually good though

sonic vault
#

finally just got a nice HDR monitor, poe gonna be lookin nice

granite nexus
wary escarp
#

Either way my tv is too big

prime needle
#

looking at hbd 630's rn

onyx adder
#

yea then its way too big for the room

#

mine is alrdy too big and its 75

#

in a bigger room