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[stoic horizon]

now you can vendor both spoilers for a chance orb irl

[leaden quiver]

expedition? it gets astrolabes dood

[sleek barn]

you're a magic jewel

[leaden quiver]

d-_-b

[sleek barn]

gottem

[worthy cave]

Think adorned

[fossil mural]

No?

[tranquil umbra]

easier to roll

[fossil mural]

What

[split maple]

No corrupted adorned

[sleek barn]

true

[fossil mural]

I mean what does miraged exp drop

[fervent ridge]

Rare items with specific mods go for a LOT when fractured, I know this, because I actually sometimes craft my gear

[tranquil umbra]

nothing

[split maple]

It's gonna be handy legstart belt

[sleek barn]

so you can have your triple synth magic jewel be safe

[tranquil umbra]

exped sucks

[split maple]

It's a belt mod

Mageblood, hh and shrine belt exist

[tough cove]

easier to roll and also some abyss jewels only care about 2 affixes in the first place

[sleek barn]

now you're thinking like GGG

[split maple]

And the actually interesting belt mods are influenced

[hoary scarab]

sentinel recombs

[tough cove]

see every minion build on the planet

[split maple]

So no fracing

[fossil mural]

And coil and flask belt

And dyadan

[tough cove]

and the charge belts

[split maple]

Like rare belts have rly low price ceiling yea

[sleek barn]

tides of time is just mb though

[stoic horizon]

and darkness enthroned

[tough cove]

tides of time is mageblood light

[leaden quiver]

its mageblood for unique belts

[fossil mural]

Its better - it works for unique flasks

[sleek barn]

as opposed to mageblood dark

[leaden quiver]

unique flasks*

[golden phoenix]

[split maple]

Give me belt for belts

Pls

[normal basalt]

Do I reserve my weekend for poe or do I go outside and kiss beautiful trans women?

[sleek barn]

Lily what are your thoughts on the new timeless jewel

[fossil mural]

Mageblood heavy you meant to say

[hoary scarab]

yes

[normal basalt]

Decisions decisions

[golden phoenix]

Boy it sure is a jewel

[stoic horizon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-peek-a-boo-sMkZVgXgiFx7O

[sleek barn]

im not sure what to make of that

[grizzled lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531783294669422603/1449065115579322388/six-seven-keropfps.gif

[molten hazel]

i wonder what the new unique gem does

[sleek barn]

thanks i can now see every grain of sand

[hoary scarab]

what the fuck is that saturation

[stoic horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552615024393322506/1477347987687739614/67-3x.gif

[cobalt blade]

obviously the last

[stuck phoenix]

you are welcome

[golden phoenix]

I would assume it makes the kalguur conquer passives in the radius

[tough cove]

i just hope that having a new line of those doesnt mess up searching for the old ones

[fossil mural]

First time?

[sleek barn]

LOGIN

[hoary scarab]

smh colonising the passive tree now

[split maple]

Them settlers are back

[sleek barn]

why does mathil always look like hes in the middle of shitting

[stuck phoenix]

dunno

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[fossil mural]

Cause hes a real gamer

[tough cove]

i know my imagery is a lot brighter due to monitor settings for fps'

[sleek barn]

no he needs a better gaming chair

[tough cove]

i blame tarkov and its silly lighting

[fossil mural]

No he has a perfect gaming chair

The one with shit bucket

[worthy cave]

wow that new mod is really really bad

[stuck phoenix]

lol

[worthy cave]

like think about a magic abyssal jewel

+40 life and what

[tranquil umbra]

??

[worthy cave]

50% chance to avoid shock?

[sleek barn]

minion damage

[tough cove]

you mean large chance to minion poison and large minion damage

[split maple]

Phasing on kill

[sleek barn]

chance to poison

[stuck phoenix]

imagine looking at an oversaturated screenshot and replying to it in earnest

alas

[tough cove]

which is 100% going to be the main use of that

[hoary scarab]

minion damage after using a minion skill for holy strike

[split maple]

Like rly the only stuff that matters on rare belt is that's +80 Life flat

[worthy cave]

okay so how much is the chance to poison?

[sleek barn]

i know this one

[fervent ridge]

Regarding that stygion vice roll

It seems like an unlikely mod to roll though, a perfect roll of a good mod goes for a lot on fracture REGARDLESS of base. Also you probably only get it at high item level, it is probably drop only and only from mirage, and I am pretty sure the abyss zone is separate from the map so will you won't be able to get it in there, only in the map itself.

Also that 100% is probably a perfect roll and people will want it for their SPECIFIC eye jewel choice.

This mod will sell for a lot on fracture

[sleek barn]

you used picsart

[stuck phoenix]

that's not saturaiton...

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-school-6-7-8-9-6-7-meme-gif-9283842523222664778

[stoic horizon]

gimp

[wraith rock]

looks like discord blocked the south park cartman shit GIF

[sleek barn]

no way

[stoic horizon]

slight deep fry and water pixels effect

[hoary scarab]

weird thing to just call someone

[stoic horizon]

gimpeen

[hoary scarab]

MODS

[stuck phoenix]

I used krita

[stuck phoenix]

Yes?

[hoary scarab]

Hi

[stuck phoenix]

Hello

[worthy cave]

okay so a 40/15 jewel

[split maple]

The mod is gonna be used for 1 niche build and at legstart to get 80 Life flat (with possibly elder/Hunter % Life slam which fracture would prevent). Just recombi with t1 Life, fill suffix and slam Hunter ex man. Lategame there rly is no build which wants a rare belt

[tough cove]

best roll would be 52-78 extra chaos on minions and 30% chance to poison on hit with the 100% bonus. And keep in mind you get actual stats from the belt too from the other 5 affixes whereas darkness enthroned gives you nothing

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/pooing-shit-south-park-cartman-gif-9658182

[stuck phoenix]

🦵

[fossil mural]

Skill issue

[tranquil umbra]

gimplex amulet

[worthy cave]

so that one mod

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-poe-turd-warcry-cry-gif-23615111

[worthy cave]

gives you another 40 life

[hoary scarab]

second infraction

[worthy cave]

and 15% to minion chance to poison

[stuck phoenix]

can we not

[tough cove]

no one is taking life nodes there

[fossil mural]

I was just helping the guy out

[worthy cave]

now, a top tier life mod on a belt can roll what?

120 HP?

[tough cove]

i dont know why your hyperfixated on life rolls on a jewel

[hoary scarab]

cause we stacking

[worthy cave]

To try and get a sense of how good the jewel mod rolls are compared to item rolls

[split maple]

Can have both

[worthy cave]

sure, I'm just trying to get an apples to apples comparison

[split maple]

Like just Split, annul, recombi

[stoic horizon]

people are hyped over darkness enthroned lite

[tough cove]

also doublec orrupt would give you another up to 50% to 2 ailment avoidances

[wraith rock]

docking

[split maple]

It's a good early league belty

[hoary scarab]

its great for holy strike ngl

[worthy cave]

sure I'm just thinking should we be excited over this?

I think the only way it's valuable is if you get a good 3rd mod corrupt

[tough cove]

its a great mod for what it does

[split maple]

Depends on how soon you plan for mageblood

For before MB it's pretty sweet mod

[valid coral]

does poe have any AFK build to level up?

[tough cove]

for the builds that use abyss jewels its definitely an option (aka darkness enthroned)

[worthy cave]

like let's say the best mod is 40 life (it isn't)

[hoary scarab]

you farm divs, buy 5 way carries and put on a tv show

[stoic horizon]

afk no, no button (other than walk) yes

[worthy cave]

sure, but DE doubles 2 rares

[tough cove]

and gives NO other stats

[sleek barn]

DIGITAL EXTREMES???

[fervent ridge]

Anyways, that new blight belt may end up being BiS for a few builds, depending on what anoints they want to get. Issue is figuring out what builds want it in particular, as they need to be ones that get a big spike from anoints.

[tough cove]

this gives you 5 affixes and the double jewel

[worthy cave]

sure but do some math

2x 40 life + bunch of damage jewels

x 100%

[valid coral]

you mean aura bot build?

[worthy cave]

and IIRC you can roll 10 res all on an abyss jewel?

[hoary scarab]

its definitly just plain a better base than stygian

[hoary scarab]

no, you just buy the service

[worthy cave]

so let's say you stick 2x 40 life + 10 res all jewels into a darkness enthroned

[split maple]

Best mod is prolly 40 mana, what 15 int, 4% crit multi, 3% attack speed when onslaught, 4 int, increased aoe. Yeah that's one magic jewel

[worthy cave]

that's already 160 life and 40 res all on a 100% roll

[fossil mural]

Stygians need 2 sockets

[split maple]

Or lightres stack idk if still worth

[fossil mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930980445389217852/1139592106172764270/cat.gif

[worthy cave]

errrrr how so many mods

oh, synth vulture prison

[split maple]

2 explicit, 3 synth, vaal replacing gilded

[sleek barn]

hey you can also catalyze stygian

[worthy cave]

LOOOOOOOOOOL

[fervent ridge]

I wonder what mods abyss gems are getting from mirage....

[low lava]

Wait, with the new vaal orb. Wont we be able to get a heck ton more damage thanks to STR stacking. Warpath Replica, rolling with like i think its ( 1 to 96-97 Chaos Damage per 80 Strength ?)

[fossil mural]

Pog

[sleek barn]

where is new vaal orb

[fossil mural]

Yea sure

[hoary scarab]

pretty sure the abyss mirage drop is just the stygian mod we have now

[finite quail]

it would also increase the strength needed

probably

[fossil mural]

Would be really sad

[low lava]

No, should not

[split maple]

It wouldn't if it acts same as strstack incr per str mod on simplex

[fossil mural]

They should have added new abyss jewel mods

Or even a new one

[finite quail]

Oh tru

[fossil mural]

It doesnt modify those in poe2

[split maple]

Do you know how diluted abyss mod pool already is

[finite quail]

abyss comeback in mirage

[split maple]

Like that shit can roll anything

[fossil mural]

Then new base

[split maple]

I spent like 3-4k alts on 6 jewels in keepers

[fossil mural]

Like if its just some stygian mods

Its lame af

[worthy cave]

Great guardian got buffed

and still no master distiller buff 😭

[fossil mural]

Be glad they didnt nerf mamba

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1454483616884064348/1471310659651239966/gifgit_1.gif

[worthy cave]

they nerfed mamba already

[fossil mural]

Not much anyway

[worthy cave]

30% less attack speed at dual wielding

[fossil mural]

Thats whatever

[hardy heron]

Could be a new jewel type
Not sure what it could be, though.

[stuck phoenix]

we can go diving

🤿

[formal ridge]

Are totems ballista very nerfed with the 0.5 instead 0.35 emerge time? anyone knows?

[grizzled lily]

SEIS SIETE

[fossil mural]

Yes

Its technically a nerd

[paper root]

Rare styg can maybe go 120% with ulti cata, prob not worth it still compared to darkness unless you need extra res or some rare mod

[fossil mural]

If you get 0 speed

[low lava]

https://tenor.com/view/dive-in-fail-gif-26755611

[grizzled lily]

🤓

[finite quail]

should be fine if you get a good amount of totem spawn speed

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-nerd-plank-plink-cat-cat-gif-11096663429307162255

[worthy cave]

oh great so we're getting historic expedition jewels from miraged exp?

[finite quail]

I'm guessing its the int based timeless jewel

[fossil mural]

Expedition?

[formal ridge]

so only hiero is good now? because there no much placement speed in tree

[acoustic crystal]

Hey guys did they announce the launch time?? is it 11am PST?? I remember Phrecia 2.0 Started 2 hrs later ( 1pm PST tho )

[fossil mural]

Its clearly a legion drop

Lmao

[worthy cave]

yeah exp

[fervent ridge]

Honestly, my build will probably just be running darkness enthroned unless there was something spicy on rare belts/abyss jewels

it is a build that wants a lot of dex

[finite quail]

since lethal pride is str and brutal restraint is dex

the new one will be int

[stuck phoenix]

oh the new catalyst? yeah, but on a belt that catalyst is a lot less fun than on a ring with an uneven amount of prefixes and suffixes

[worthy cave]

hmmmmm

[finite quail]

and caster based

[fossil mural]

You can get it in tree bruh, and there is affixes ive been told

[steep sphinx]

guys question, I logged off for some hours and my spectre despawned, I thought it wont tho, anything I can do to make sure it wont?

[fossil mural]

No its not. It will 100% be legion drop

[weak scarab]

is Kboc necro viable?

[worthy cave]

uhhhhhhhhh

[fossil mural]

Yes

[worthy cave]

so that means we're gonna have kalguurans in legion?

[fossil mural]

Why not

[worthy cave]

Remember, timeless jewels are associated with certain factions

They're not just generic drops

[fossil mural]

Kalguurans are warriors like anyone else

[hardy heron]

I feel like the faridun/afarud league will have a faridun/afarud faction for legion

[stuck phoenix]

don't unsummon it outside of town or hideout (kingsmarch is not a town)

[split maple]

Can someone good at wording tell me why that vise mod says "jewels" in plural

[steep sphinx]

I didnt tho, didnt even take my armor with the gem equiped off

[stuck phoenix]

did you modify the armour

did you lose attributes

[steep sphinx]

nope

[steep sphinx]

dts

[stuck phoenix]

did you raise a knew spectre

[fossil mural]

Its probably the unique mod copy pasted but they added msgic condition

[stuck phoenix]

did you change your spectre cap

[steep sphinx]

I have the ability off my abilities bar

[steep sphinx]

dont think so

[stoic horizon]

safety net in case they add +1 abyss socket mod to belts (if it doesnt exist in mirage already)

[split maple]

Someone good at wording salty

[stuck phoenix]

shrug

[split maple]

Coz yeah that's what I am hoping

[steep sphinx]

one thing I did do is take off another piece of armor that made the wand that the spectre is on become RED because I didnt have the stats

[fossil mural]

Coping*

[steep sphinx]

think thats why?

[fossil mural]

Tbh maybe they will roll with +1 mod

Whyever not

[stuck phoenix]

bro

[steep sphinx]

but I didnt unequip it

like the wand itself

[stuck phoenix]

not having enough attributes for an item is unequipping it

[steep sphinx]

oh I see, my fault

[stuck phoenix]

if you were in hideout though

the spectre would have fallen to the ground

[steep sphinx]

thanks, Ill keep in mind

[steep sphinx]

I was

[stuck phoenix]

as a corpse entity

that you could have reanimated

[steep sphinx]

OHH I DID SEE HIM, I thought its a bug

[stuck phoenix]

but if it was hours ago the instance expired

[steep sphinx]

thanks for letting me know now

[stuck phoenix]

💀

You're welcome lol

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[steep sphinx]

happens when u dont touch poe in a year </3

[stuck phoenix]

well, at least if you're restarting in mirage it's a good learning opportunity

with no real loss

[fossil mural]

Nah spectres are just dogshit

[steep sphinx]

true

[steep sphinx]

why, I like the build

its solid

[fossil mural]

Well it just poofed your spectre

Very cool design

[steep sphinx]

helm breaker's vid was also good, like the build seemed solid3

[elfin shale]

How many levels can you get on an exceptional gem

[steep sphinx]

yeah thats not cool but besides that its fun

[stuck phoenix]

as a side note, wands are not armour, gems are not equipped

[elfin shale]

Without "to socketed gem" modifiers

[runic terrace]

memories back?

[elfin shale]

I am curious about triple Dancing Dervish

[fossil mural]

Weve seen 3 at most?

[steep sphinx]

plus it was a Carnage Chieftain so I didnt lose much lmao

[stoic horizon]

[empty bronze]

when is ggg gonna give me the option to auto merge remove only stash tabs

[fossil mural]

Surely bsb day 1

[steep sphinx]

wym? I have the gems quiped in the sockets

[empty bronze]

just move all the currency into my currency tab

[stuck phoenix]

never

[elfin shale]

Thats not double corrupt right? 4 is default max?

[stuck phoenix]

wouldn't it fill up

[empty bronze]

and move the uniques that fit into my unique tab

[mental epoch]

Another Guardian buff?

[empty bronze]

idk?

can it?

[fossil mural]

3 is default

[split maple]

It is dc

[stoic horizon]

3 is max, its like with empower etc

[stuck phoenix]

5k per stack

[spice pecan]

oh shit, guardian buff

[stoic horizon]

so yes its literally double corrupted exceptional gem div card

[elfin shale]

Dang thats good

[empty bronze]

just autoempty the remove only currency tabs till its full

[granite roost]

100k alts in std

dear god

[elfin shale]

I doubt the quality will do much but still

[split maple]

Journey card excites me

If not too rare

It Will be too rare ofc

[stoic horizon]

and it doesnt specify empower/enchance/efficiency etc so its the boss gems too

[empty bronze]

like if it reaches 5k wisdom scrolls, just stop moving wisdom scrolls and move onto the next currency

[fossil mural]

Yea those tats dont fucking exist from ships

[stuck phoenix]

reasonable suggestion, but would be impractical honestly
what if you just grabbed some currency in standard and now you don't have anywhere to put it because your tab is full

xd

[empty bronze]

my gem tab already does this

[stuck phoenix]

anyways, just grab the stuff you need when you need it

[empty bronze]

thank god i dont play standard because my standard stash tabs are a mess

[empty bronze]

its mostly the unique tabs that are annoying tbh

[stuck phoenix]

lol

[empty bronze]

i gotta search each one to see if i have a specific unique

[fossil mural]

Just

Hide them

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930980445389217852/1139592106172764270/cat.gif

[empty bronze]

no if im checking to see if i already own a unique if i wanna test something

like i was checking if i had an astral projector somewhere

[mental epoch]

Think im gonna league start sentinel of radiance now lmao. Gonna fuck around and suffer to see this new buff

[stuck phoenix]

oh, standard is no longer tied to legacy maps huh

[nova thorn]

Spent too much on useless shit so im working on lunch to punish myself

[empty bronze]

which im pretty sure i did at some point but apparently i dont now

or its in a random tab and i missed it

[fossil mural]

Very healthy

[stuck phoenix]

though hm, does this mean if you play standard it's actually easier to fill atlas lel

[nova thorn]

Nice bio

[fossil mural]

Thanks

[whole bluff]

Should I divine my foulborn howa to be perfect btw?

Is the dex that important?

[hazy kiln]

well there aren't really legacy maps anymore right

they'll have their old art but no difference in functionality to new maps

[fossil mural]

Sounds like

[stuck phoenix]

I guess

[fossil mural]

Collectors items

[whole bluff]

Yay, relic maps stay around

[stuck phoenix]

Well

[fossil mural]

Alt art maps CAP

[stuck phoenix]

They didn't really have much of a difference in functionality before either

[stoic horizon]

couldnt they access currently inaccessible layouts?

[stuck phoenix]

if they keep old art they're legacy maps as far as I'm concerned

you can always valdo these days

[stoic horizon]

true

[stuck phoenix]

and well, now you can't

[nova thorn]

Wonder what the map tab would look like

[stuck phoenix]

actually maybe you still can with valdo

but now you can't just farm legacy maps for a hideout

[cobalt blade]

valdos had their own section iirc

[stuck phoenix]

in standard

[fossil mural]

Even more useless

[stoic horizon]

valdo prob still forces layout as the ppl who submit em choose it

[stuck phoenix]

yeah but that could still be pick a map base to run

[stuck phoenix]

oh right

I forgot

[cobalt blade]

it wont

lol

[stuck phoenix]

I forgot people chose the layout

[fossil mural]

Valdo maps have their own icon on atlas

[cobalt blade]

so many maps become 100x less shit if you arent forced into cells or something

[steel patrol]

poe league in less than 24h and my hand is acting up, tendons in my right hand have started to hurt since today morning. tons of clicking while I was gaming and there's more clicking yet to come in poe

[native abyss]

i know just the fix

amputate it

[spice pecan]

my lower back has been killing me for like 4 days

[surreal musk]

time to play rf

[spice pecan]

and im still going to be glued to my fukn chair

[cobalt blade]

get robot hand

[stuck phoenix]

The Side Quest Divination Card has been updated, and now rewards an Incarnation Echo.
As a side note, anyone else had a stroke reading this?

[mental violet]

holy crap poeninja introduced atlas tree search functionality with heat maps and ways to select which mechanics you want to run 😄

[fossil mural]

Fucking retirement home and not a gaming chat

[cobalt blade]

no?

[stuck phoenix]

I sentence you to RF league, and rebind space bar to left click

[steel patrol]

same here, but not having WASD really is a pain in my hand

[cobalt blade]

incarnation echo is like echo of dread

[stuck phoenix]

ok just me being stupid then

I did not know a div card is called side quest

so I was like what side quest

[cobalt blade]

it used to give 20 scouting reports

[spice pecan]

that's a mood, no idea how i've only had very minor hand/wrist pains after all the years of starcraft

[cobalt blade]

ah lol

[spice pecan]

and F- tier posture

[brazen vector]

[crisp obsidian]

New timeless jewels pog

[fossil mural]

This will be so dogshit

I can feel it

[stuck phoenix]

imma go eat a cookie

maybe also a sandwich

[fossil mural]

Maybe also a whale

[cobalt blade]

heat map on average people take every block node > block mechanic you wanna run

(but its just like 4 different strategies taking different blocknodes)

[grim hound]

I need some help. Ive got a buddy who has only really played survival games for fps games and struggles with having to manage alot of buttons. I convinced him to try poe with me at the start of the new league but is there a build that is gonna be good that only uses like 3 or 4 buttons like league of legends?

[hybrid harness]

wtf minion buff

[steel patrol]

will maybe try RF if my hand acts up even a day from now. my current plans are to go with rue's ele hit build

[cobalt blade]

RF

[spice pecan]

they fixed the issue with temp minions and mirages

[cobalt blade]

its a basically 0 button build to 1 button sometimes

[fossil mural]

"Only"

[spice pecan]

pRAW is back on the menu

[fossil mural]

What where

[thick goblet]

huh? how

[spice pecan]

ziz literally just read out a new ggg post

[steel patrol]

indeed, rf is very beginner friendly. but make sure to read and follow the guide throughly, otherwise it's easy to mess up

[spice pecan]

on the stalling podcast

[spice pecan]

he said they're also working on fixing it for temp buffs but it's harder

yeah that

[steel patrol]

yikes for minion players

[spice pecan]

no that is very good for minion players lol

[brazen vector]

do we really get this node in poe1 XD

[fossil mural]

Holy shit, imagine

[brazen vector]

thats a heroic tragedy

[spice pecan]

it means you can play poison ranged animate weapon again

[fossil mural]

Yes please

[stuck phoenix]

Change of plans, nobody ate the wienerbröd so I'll have to eat that instead of the cookie

[mental violet]

select the mechanics you want to run and than generate a heatmap based of the narrowed results 😮

[fossil mural]

100 morbillion es

[nova thorn]

People forget you have to cast them when you first enter every map if u dont mind doing that u wont mind doing it twice 🤣

[stoic horizon]

eat both (together for bonus points)

[spice pecan]

three times, unless you want to full clear map and then backtrack to the mirage

that is.. very annoying

[steel patrol]

its morbin time

[karmic gust]

what if this refreshes the temp minion duration

[spice pecan]

but it appears to have been fixed so

[cobalt blade]

suurely

[karmic gust]

and you can abuse going in and out of instance

[cobalt blade]

its just a few thousand inc es

[karmic gust]

to keep temp minion alive forever

[stuck phoenix]

No, I'll save the cookie for tomorrow (tomorrow is in 1 hour 11 minutes)

[cobalt blade]

nothing can go wrong :333

[nova thorn]

And cast them when they die

[karmic gust]

[fossil mural]

Shittiest exploit in poe history

[stoic horizon]

you are 1 minute in the future

[stuck phoenix]

Crazy

[uneven gust]

rip rose atlas 3.26-3.28

[karmic gust]

pff souls wick finally viable

[fossil mural]

Good riddance

[whole bluff]

it was so young

[stoic horizon]

blame zana

[gentle chasm]

or just open path of pathing and click what you want to run

[worthy cave]

What sort of temporary buffs are so vital to transfer between areas that can't just be reapplied?

Is this about someone spending 3 minutes to stack sap of the seasons with PoP?

[gentle chasm]

shrines/hh buffs really

[worthy cave]

ah

[cerulean breach]

@fossil mural did you see my vaal eq bleed build?

[crisp obsidian]

That would require people to read

[stoic horizon]

soul eater, shrines, hard to sustain flasks

[raw cove]

welllllll about that

[worthy cave]

hard to sustain flasks will just fall off anwyay

HH can eat the nerf

[fossil mural]

Yea, looks good. But clusters 😩

[karmic gust]

well you dont get charges refreshed for flasks

[stoic horizon]

10 div hh login

[crisp obsidian]

Oh this is good

[cerulean breach]

those aren't that hard tbh

but yeah lots of jewels

[fossil mural]

I just hate them in general

[cerulean breach]

tbh the most efficient route, as much as I hate it, is probably to do eviscerate bleed glad until you can get blood-soaked banner

[fossil mural]

90% chance to avoid damage from hits pog

[cerulean breach]

is really fucking rare

you need to hit the mod 3 times for that to happen

[fossil mural]

I hope so lmao

[dim gyro]

I'm now also hoping they would add a button to summon the mirage portal to where you are so you don't have to backtrack to it after clearning map

[main pike]

holy based im playing animate weapon again. ggg has given me the sign

[gentle chasm]

why not just run it as soon as you find it

[crisp obsidian]

Any leveling plans btw, I am kinda thinking just muling rolling magma and doing that till I can switch to spellslinger

[fossil mural]

Depends how ritual works

[main pike]

cause if you have temp minions you gotta backtrack or resummon them all currently

ritual is entirely separate, so don't worry about that

[karmic gust]

i was thinking just cobra lash

[crisp obsidian]

Oh

Is it usable

[gentle chasm]

atm true but they should fix that "soon"

[karmic gust]

i mean ppl level with it apparently its good

[nova thorn]

My plan is to just play my build as soon as I can equip the gem

[fossil mural]

Cobra lash is okay

[karmic gust]

idk how long it is good tho

[dim gyro]

you also still have altars so ud wanna do that last for max quant/rarity

[dim sonnet]

ggg really wants me to play praw

[crisp obsidian]

Hmm good to know

[whole bluff]

what are you rolling?

[fossil mural]

Altars probably dont work

[frank parcel]

Anyone has rue’s zerker flicker pob?

[crisp obsidian]

When can spellslinger be activated

[karmic gust]

same plan still poison crema into the mana miner later

[whole bluff]

ah, neat

[karmic gust]

well you need crema of volcano first right

[fossil mural]

How do you clear with crema

[karmic gust]

i think thats the most annoying part

[whole bluff]

I'm just doing poison crema lmao

[karmic gust]

otherwise as soon as you get it + ascednancy

[crisp obsidian]

Oh

[spice pecan]

take a shot every time quin gets this vod demonetized

[main pike]

just bookmark his sheets https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSpEZoIvPzij-gdGUGGzAdw7w-H7h8HrpeiSmSHwnkMvtcznpHWb27X8VrMQcIRMLhKtTu6haBcELC0/pubhtml

[spice pecan]

if i had any liquor i'd be dead

[crisp obsidian]

So technically first lab possible

[karmic gust]

well second, but i guess you can do hit on first lab

[stoic horizon]

https://pobb.in/pvPKOZanQgE_

[crisp obsidian]

Oh second okay

[whole bluff]

I will be doing pconc into merc lab for crema, at earliest probably

[crisp obsidian]

Well even better

[frank parcel]

Thank you

[spice pecan]

i think i've decided on starting dual strike of ambi impale champ

[frank parcel]

Thank you

[karmic gust]

alternatively i was just thinking about doing regular non mana rolling magma mines on sabo second lab, as that will have some defenses semi early at least

[spice pecan]

but the pob i have is a little susge, campaign felt pretty nice at least

[karmic gust]

but it will for sure have less damage

[stoic horizon]

leaving searing bond totems for someone to show they work?

[crisp obsidian]

I think defences are kinda w/e early in sc

[spice pecan]

maybe a second build at this point

[crisp obsidian]

Clear speed + single target most important

[spice pecan]

i can't be the only person that's cooking it on traps - if i truly am, then it's a mistake

though i saw a number of other posts talking about it with traps

[dim sonnet]

damn this is so hype

[elfin shale]

Traps doesnt seem worth it to me

[spice pecan]

pob numbers look great, but I don't trust myself

[elfin shale]

Its -2 supports

[dim sonnet]

ggg really cooked with this one

[spice pecan]

it's basically mandatory for coverage and for spamming totems as fast as possible

[crisp obsidian]

If it's your own build then imo it's never a mistake but rather a teaching experience!

[stoic horizon]

in case of mythik's pob it was actually 3 supports and it still dealt 2 mil dps on 1 item

[whole bluff]

whats the second support?'

[fossil mural]

You mean... a learning experience?

[stoic horizon]

cluster

[fossil mural]

[spice pecan]

trap/cluster traps/swift assembly

cluster traps can be dropped for sunblast if you have a way to proc the traps

[sleek ocean]

static strike void shockwave 🤔

[elfin shale]

Wouldnt you rather just use Multiple Totem Support and go Hiero for 100% inc placement speed? It cant feel that much worse than traps

[whole bluff]

I would definitely not use cluster trap, maybe sunblast though

[fossil mural]

Daring today

[onyx adder]

i mean sometimes making ur own build just makes u worse at the game by leading u down local maxima

[spice pecan]

you already go hiero anyway

[steel patrol]

interesting first line, even more streamline to the atlast progression?

[fossil mural]

Just removing pointless hurdles

[elfin shale]

Yeah but the inc placement speed doesnt do anything for traps and i doubt youre scaling throwing speed

[onyx adder]

i got no specific comment on this totem trapper setup other than to say it sounds like a lot of support gems for not a ton of benefit

[sleek ocean]

thats big gaurdian buff

[leaden quiver]

Guardian buff huge

[spice pecan]

you can use architect's grasp to get throwing speed from cast speed

[leaden quiver]

Amazing shit

[spice pecan]

and you scale arcane surge effect

[stoic horizon]

1 second total placement time for 10 totems and you can have a bunch more

[elfin shale]

Whats base placement time

[spice pecan]

and architect's grasp allows you to potentially chuck 9 or 10 traps at a time for 18 or 20 totems in 1 throw

[teal ermine]

Hey guys I have a question…. I wanna league start either shield crush or cyclone slayer, of those two which will have a higher ceiling in terms of scaling? I probably will push one or the either for the entire league

[spice pecan]

which, if you overtrap, then once the totems explode, the next set of traps will pop and max the totems out again

[stoic horizon]

0.6 i think, hiero + one placement speed wheel ( the second one is near scion and gives other stats that are useless) is 0.21 s

[spice pecan]

which allows for screenwide coverage if you throw them all over the screen

[elfin shale]

The trap route feels better if you want the detonation for clear but for clear you can just, searing bond

[whole bluff]

how do you get 2 totems per trap?

[crisp obsidian]

0.5

[spice pecan]

too much annoyance in not oversummoning

[gritty epoch]

cyclone imo

[spice pecan]

multiple totem support

[stoic horizon]

thats ballistas

[grizzled lily]

hi any ggg employees or idk, will we have different stygian belt mods for each eye jewel type?

[fossil mural]

Go cyclone shockwave

[fossil mural]

As if anyone would tell you

[elfin shale]

Wdym

[spice pecan]

and tbh, the skill has so much %more dmg that taking the hit on cluster traps really doesn't hurt that much

[grizzled lily]

MY OWN INTERVIEW

[karmic gust]

this is certainly very optimistic view of doing that :d

[spice pecan]

if you hit cap they blow up, and also using the tether for clear is giga jank

[elfin shale]

They also deal the AoE in an area around connected totems dont they

[spice pecan]

yes, the skill is aoe tagged

so the explode has aoe which theoretically is scalable

[elfin shale]

Er the dot in an area around it

[spice pecan]

they do, as well as near you

[elfin shale]

RF pog

[golden phoenix]

Dang that site is a banger

[stoic horizon]

now we only need exile of exiling

[spice pecan]

but if you're summoning and trying to use the links themselves to clear, that sounds even more jank than just running fbowb totems with this

[fossil mural]

You know normal searing bond does that too right

[elfin shale]

Does it connect to you?

[spice pecan]

it does

[elfin shale]

I thought cis only connected to other totems

Wack

[whole bluff]

82% less dmg and -3 links sounds nuclear

[silent plinth]

I'm bringing out my biggest weapon for league start tomorrow night.

[spice pecan]

not when you're getting 82% more damage per summoned totem * 18

[stoic horizon]

i'd be awake for 2 days on one cup

[spice pecan]

off a base 2500 fire dot

[modern storm]

did physdot ele get nerfed other tahn the golem shit?

[whole bluff]

isnt it just 30% more per totem?

[fossil mural]

Where the hell is 82 coming from

[spice pecan]

with quality stacking you can get 82

[elfin shale]

This is my thinking, compared to multiple totems which is like what 20% less but double placement speed

[slow niche]

ok KF looks good, i honestly thought it's a ballista build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEYFAyDk5W4

[fossil mural]

67

[gentle chasm]

ikr, who could have possibly come up with it

[spice pecan]

but just 20/20 is 40% more

[stoic horizon]

quality is 0-10% more per totem

[spice pecan]

82 is with diallas/ashes/enhance

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[golden phoenix]

Probably a very cool person

[stoic horizon]

it can be used either as ballista or self cast, ballista is easier to set up

[gentle chasm]

this shit reads like a preworkout

[karmic gust]

the most roundabout way to avoid throwing 1 fire trap

[spice pecan]

but even still, you're getting 340% more off of 18 totems just through quality alone

[silent plinth]

It does a bit I've gotta be honest.

[grizzled lily]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/atlas-trees

atlas trees

[spice pecan]

and you don't have the peanut sized aoe of fire trap

[grizzled lily]

no wae

[spice pecan]

or the reliance on the mob standing in the burning ground

[slow niche]

yeah but ballistas suuuuck

as an archetype

[stoic horizon]

no u

[formal ridge]

HOLY shit ele hit slayer is trash to level any alternatives?

[leaden quiver]

Git gud

Use skitters

[elfin shale]

Smite

[half stream]

I love the feature on path of pathing where you ctrl+click a mechanic symbol (ex: Harvest) and it tries to minimally allocate all the nodes of that mechanic

[spice pecan]

did you follow the guide

[stoic horizon]

are you running white gear or something?

[karmic gust]

i mean i wouldnt level with ele hit

[grizzled lily]

what are u struggling with

mana?

[spice pecan]

rue says to straight swap to ele hit once you get the gem at 12

[golden phoenix]

I don't think control does anything, it's just a regular click

[grizzled lily]

biggest issue with elehit is mana

but just one point on mana leech is enough

for the whole campaign

[spice pecan]

same with any strike skill in campaign/early maps tbh

[half stream]

Oh i've been doing that for no reason then

[split maple]

Why even do so early swap tho

[spice pecan]

ds of ambi has this too

[split maple]

Just do some slam leveling

[stoic horizon]

some brazilian dude did a 3h run on it with forgetting to use blood rage 3/4 of the time and checking what nodes he has to take on tree mid run

[onyx adder]

so at 18 totems thats 720% more damage ie an 8.2 multi right

[fossil mural]

This reads like the most 2020 shit ever, "quirky coffee love coffee heehee". And in reality its also some dust with coffee flavour

[onyx adder]

but in order to do what u want ur eating uh

[grizzled lily]

yea but idk with elehit u sometimes dont hit them esp early so u hit air like 5 times

[onyx adder]

did someone say an 82% less damage penalty?

[silent plinth]

It's effective i'll give it that.

[onyx adder]

idk i cant be bothered scrolling up

[stoic horizon]

accuracy issue

[spice pecan]

idk, the numbers looked very good in pob

[whole bluff]

I just looked at gem tooltip and final dmg in pob on a 4L

[onyx adder]

oh

[grizzled lily]

3h campaign run on avg by everyone trying it says otherwise, prob smoothest strike skill

[onyx adder]

so ur using, what, trap and cluster trap only

or another support on top

[grizzled lily]

more like hit range issue

[onyx adder]

because trap and cluster trap is still a lot of throwing

[spice pecan]

trap/cluster trap/swift assembly/multi totem/searing bond - last supp slot goes to burning damage until you swap it for enhance

or you can ditch cluster trap IF you can make sunblast work

[crisp obsidian]

I very much doubt "by everyone"

[spice pecan]

but then -1 belt slot omegalul i guess

[leaden quiver]

U dont use traps with that totem im sorry mythik

[grizzled lily]

did mine in 4h and i suck

[leaden quiver]

Cluster traps is too nad

Unless you can use sunblast with the new volatile orb

[crisp obsidian]

That's not 3h

[leaden quiver]

For 90% reduced trap duration

Then maybe

[whole bluff]

ok, it's not -82%, cuz pob was set to boss

[fossil mural]

You clear with rf and then spam totems for single target ig

[leaden quiver]

Can do it without traps then

[spice pecan]

summoning 18 totems without traps is way too jank, even for a hiero

as someone who plays totems every league lol

[leaden quiver]

Sunblast

[spice pecan]

oh sure

[leaden quiver]

3 throw for 18 toter

[whole bluff]

https://pobb.in/Q6UfUjPIvcvJ

[leaden quiver]

Volatile orb for 90%

[stoic horizon]

need to find a way to trigger them though

[leaden quiver]

This is a scalable value afaik

[leaden quiver]

90% reduced dura

0.4 sec delay

[stoic horizon]

that gimps the dot

[pulsar dune]

There is arming time for traps, which is unscalable

But good point, volatiled sunblast is going to be nice

[stoic horizon]

yes but thats for having enemies triggerable by enemies which sunblast disables

[cerulean breach]

why does no one ever talk about wandian?

I leaguestarted it in keepers it's so good

[fossil mural]

Who

[cerulean breach]

wandian

[pulsar dune]

I remember testing it and the difference between the sunblast rolls wasn't tending towards zero

Wand guardian

[stoic horizon]

wander guardian i assume

[whole bluff]

cant you mine it?

[pulsar dune]

KBOC presumably

[cerulean breach]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/orlp-2505/orlp_wandian?timemachine=day-3&i=0&search=timemachine%3Dday-2%26name%3Dwandian

[split maple]

Needs a ff to be better than hiero for kboc, no?

[whole bluff]

ah, nope, trap support is less trap dmg

[leaden quiver]

Its trap dura

Not 90% reduced dura

[whole bluff]

mine supports are less dmg

[cerulean breach]

I used both KBoC and KB, now I think KB is better since the runegraft got nerfed

[leaden quiver]

They are separate, right?

[golden moat]

how do i get to this crafting recipe?

[pulsar dune]

KB huh

[whole bluff]

I would consider trap, but cluster trap is painful

[leaden quiver]

Otherwise youd be able to get 90% reduced trap dura easily now

[split maple]

So Just shrine wander?

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/50_KqhsoL7Yv

[pulsar dune]

What's the synergy there, just generic guardian has fat auras that fall off endgame

[spice pecan]

someone find the problem then

[cerulean breach]

how do they fall off lmao

[spice pecan]

if it's really that bad

[cerulean breach]

they're level 30 auras

[spice pecan]

then someone find the problem

because i'm too stupid to do it

[stuck phoenix]

Door is not in your screenshot

[thick goblet]

find the room that looks like a face, one eye is flat horizontonal, and the other eye is tall vertical
idk how to describe it better

[cerulean breach]

the synergy is that it's a wander that is faster, tankier and deals more damage than the already popular deadeye wanders

[stoic horizon]

where do you get 90% reduced trap dura tho? max roll sunblast is 75%

[golden moat]

ty

[slow niche]

is viper strike (not of the mamba) the last useable poison skill?

[cerulean breach]

the pob is highly misleading, you're runnign around with 4 shrine buffs

[pulsar dune]

Ah, shrines for speed

[fossil mural]

New vaal

[pulsar dune]

That makes sense

[leaden quiver]

New vaal orb, I think its a scalable value

[split maple]

And can still do kboc once you hit lategame, that's kinda Nice story

[stoic horizon]

mamba is basically untouched, just slightly clunkier due to less attack speed

[onyx adder]

see my problem with this is that its only about 3 times the damage of a 2 linked searing bond at 20q and 18 totems, because u have two supports that dont add damage and two supports that actively hurt you

[pulsar dune]

It's going to really hard to hit tho, since that orb will probably be in challenge.

[onyx adder]

and then on top of that you need to invest a lot to get to 15 pcs

[cerulean breach]

like wandian has suuuuch a smooth campaign & atlas progression

[onyx adder]

or whatever it is u need

[spice pecan]

you don't get 15 power charges

[onyx adder]

closer to 10 i guess

[spice pecan]

you get 6 max

[cerulean breach]

level 30 auras is just so much flat dmg which wanders really lack

the shrines + gull make you zoomy af

75/75 block and sentinel for tonk

[onyx adder]

6+3+ancestral bond + multi totem

wheres the rest

[split maple]

How much is gull early

Like its t2

[cerulean breach]

it's 1c

[fossil mural]

Bruh I was struggling to get accel shrine on charlatan

[spice pecan]

1 base + 1 ancestral bond + 1 hiero + 2 multi + 5 foulborn staff + 6 from pcharge max

[stoic horizon]

5 from foul searing touch

[olive sinew]

Mmmm so tempted to replace my 2400G with a new 5500x3d at 250$CaD before prices go up

[spice pecan]

it's configed for 16 in that pob

which is wearing two items and two jewels

4 link, no uber lab

[slow niche]

and that thing where it doesn't add more poisons, idk what that meant, maybe it doesn't add poisons on extra targets?

[cerulean breach]

echoing shrine, now that they buffed the cold/lightning shrine to give phys as extra you deffo want a phys wand

[pulsar dune]

It means betrayals sting doesn't work

[onyx adder]

ah right ok

[fossil mural]

And the new poison sword

[slow niche]

oh and that cluster node got nerfed from 300 to 200% on first poison

[spice pecan]

but you can get 18 with pcharge anoint and then pcharge corrupt on helm or something

[stoic horizon]

thats only so that they dont have to nerf the new sword ( also a nerf to ppl using the funny ring but its not mandatory)

[onyx adder]

so this particular setup looks about as good as just clicking a 6l searing bond, on paper

[pulsar dune]

That was rolled back

[fossil mural]

Its not

[onyx adder]

which is not good

[spice pecan]

reverted

[stoic horizon]

it didnt

[onyx adder]

ur big problem is cluster traps

[slow niche]

oh it was?

[onyx adder]

that gem is dog shit

[spice pecan]

i'm aware it is

[leaden quiver]

Cluster traps is steaming SHIIIIIIIT

[fossil mural]

Funny how that sword is still unusable

[leaden quiver]

id rather have less totems and multitotem

[whole bluff]

just skip searing touch and cluster traps imo

[onyx adder]

searing touch is probably okay

[leaden quiver]

The poison one sounds good for low tol non-mamba

[onyx adder]

cluster traps is not

[leaden quiver]

With sadism

But thats about it

[fossil mural]

Yes but why

Non mamba

[onyx adder]

certainly not both cluster traps and swift assembly which have terrible synergy

[leaden quiver]

Mamba penis

[fossil mural]

Because remember mamba gets all damage poison from daggers

[spice pecan]

how do you make sunblast work then

[fossil mural]

This shit sword doesnt

[spice pecan]

on literal 2c budget

[hybrid harness]

whats a decent green support for firestorm

[whole bluff]

just get less max totem count and get like 120% more dmg from not using cluster trap

[onyx adder]

sunblast itself costs more than 2c early so u cant

[fossil mural]

Ha ha panis

[slow niche]

i thought i read it in patch notes, must've been a fever dream

[soft perch]

i think guardian wander is monster bait unless ur fusillade

[pulsar dune]

It was there, but they changed their mind

[stoic horizon]

cull ig

[soft perch]

the relics will just die

constantly

[spice pecan]

fine, just cut cluster traps

[stoic horizon]

it got reverted

[cerulean breach]

why do people meme around with traps and shit with the new totem

[spice pecan]

and you go to over 1m dps on 16 totems

[slow niche]

understood

[soft perch]

not thinking

[spice pecan]

this is not the first time totems have been nested in traps

[cerulean breach]

it's not like the old totem at all

since this is BURN

[pulsar dune]

Placing 16 spell totems is a bit of a pain

[cerulean breach]

it doesn't STACK

[spice pecan]

that has nothing to do with it

[fossil mural]

Did you even read the gem

[pulsar dune]

You hit like .3 placement time

[fossil mural]

[soft perch]

theyre using cluster trap as a bad multitotem basically

[cerulean breach]

yes

[pulsar dune]

So that's 5s

[shell laurel]

is there a specific channel or thread to follow for campaign findings tmrw?

[spice pecan]

okay, the absolute minimum budget to make sunblast work

[fossil mural]

Sunblast +2c

[cerulean breach]

like linking with trap and shit wastes otherwise good gem slots

[onyx adder]

It is multiplicative with multitotem, to be fair

It's still dog shit

[soft perch]

i know

[whole bluff]

I think architect/slavedrivers hand is why you'd consider trap, plus trap support dmg multi shouldnt apply to totem, so that is actually reasonable imo. Mines are faster but have big less dmg, same as cluster trap

[fossil mural]

Its so you can stack totem count for single target without gimping clear speed

[spice pecan]

you can also overstack traps

[pulsar dune]

The gem is going to be a div due to RF gamers

[cerulean breach]

mark my words, no one will use this totem for clear and have a good time

[spice pecan]

ok

[cerulean breach]

it's just single target buff for rf

[pulsar dune]

Yea you should probably just clear with RF

[crystal talon]

You just clear like normal searing bond. It is fineish

[cerulean breach]

anyway the play is to just use regular searing bond totems linked with multiple totem, or maybe the trap nonsense for the regular searing bond

[onyx adder]

I dont think anybody is proposing u explode for clear

Right

[whole bluff]

xD

[cerulean breach]

then use the alt gem to instantly trigger the max

[whole bluff]

I'm going other stuff

idk

[fossil mural]

Try me bithc

[crystal talon]

this no workie

[spice pecan]

so again

[soft perch]

i think anyone that says searing bond clear is fineish might have something wrong with them

[spice pecan]

how do you make sunblast work

[cerulean breach]

why not?

[crystal talon]

read gem

[cerulean breach]

I did

let me re-read if I can find it

[pulsar dune]

I don't think there's much to it, you just equip it and triple your trap count.

[elfin shale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/nAeCA85asC

So if we presume Heroic Tragedy is the same as PoE2, dont STR stackers become fucking bonkers since now they scale ES with strength as well?

[crystal talon]

only boom boom searing bond of detonation totems. Damage is based off amount of totems boom boomed

[cerulean breach]

ah

so it does work

it's just shit dmg

fair enough

[spice pecan]

enemies cannot trigger your traps with sunblast

[whole bluff]

tbf, 2.4m AoE isnt gonna get you places

[soft perch]

@crystal talon are you sure normal searing bond doesnt get counted for this btw

[fossil mural]

Vaal it

[pulsar dune]

I don't think they'd give the best es stacking paradigm (in terms of more es) more es tbh

[onyx adder]

Yes

[whole bluff]

and it's a dot, and it's not spreadable

[soft perch]

it says 'totems from this skill'

[karmic gust]

oh wait shrapnel specialist is first lab, hm

[crystal talon]

read da gem

[soft perch]

yes

[split maple]

You lose some % increased dmg so more for rf strstack

[spice pecan]

do you know of another 2.4m skill off the top of your head, just so i can see how the aoe is scaling in pob

[soft perch]

'this skill' tends to include the other versions of the same skill no?

[cerulean breach]

I missed the part that the dmg scales with #totems detonated rather than just max totems

[soft perch]

like the game treats them as the same for coc

etc

[cerulean breach]

anyway I personally would just use this gem with the default 4, maybe with multi totem support for 6

[whole bluff]

hmm, maybe conc ice nova or something

[crystal talon]

show me something with the same or similiar wording.

[blazing spear]

chisel me instead

[cerulean breach]

I'm not even sure if it's that good for RF compared to fire trap considering fire trap did both dot and ignite

[half stream]

I wish we had that too tbh. I assume some folks will figure it out and put it on the wiki but unless someone makes a big reddit post it sounds hard to find

I'm gonna mod-abuse and make a temporary channel for it. It can exist for a week or two

#1┃campaign-secrets

[pulsar dune]

What does that imply? The traps should still place the totems, no?

[uneven gust]

vaal icenova melding+new vaal support

[onyx adder]

They do

[spice pecan]

the traps need to trigger for the totems to be placed

[soft perch]

im assuming standard enchants work on all transfigs

if possible

[onyx adder]

They trigger with sunblast, i dont see the issue here

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, they'll just get placed like 1s later

[whole bluff]

they autotrigger after 1-2s cuz trap duration urns out

[soft perch]

i know its not the same wording

but i think u rly shouldnt count out the fact that this can include normal searing bond totems

[pulsar dune]

Which is less of an issue than usual

[whole bluff]

some traps dont autotrigger on expiring, but it is default behaviour

and sunblast lowers duration

[soft perch]

because there are cases of the game treating transfigs and non-transfigs as the same skill

[spice pecan]

is 75% reduced dura enough? maybe

[pulsar dune]

On the account of the delay anyway

[whole bluff]

iirc, base trap support gem is 4s trap duration

[crystal talon]

The fact it is you saying this makes me even more confident I'm correct

[whole bluff]

and nothing else scales trap duration afaik

[soft perch]

ok but why do cocced transfigs share the same cd as the base skill

[pulsar dune]

You can throw like 15 per second with 75% sunblast IIRC

[soft perch]

the game treats them as the same skill

[crystal talon]

Splaff really does wonders for my self-esteem

[dark grove]

33% of Non-Chaos Damage take bypasses Energy Shield
33% of Chaos Damage taken does not bypass Energy Shield
do these mods make it so damage we take gets split into smaller parts so out mitigation works better?

[stuck phoenix]

Is your mitigation based on enemy hit size?

[soft perch]

u can be a dick or u can answer

[pulsar dune]

I don't think there's any mitigation that scales negatively with size of hit that'd care about this split in the game

[potent bramble]

Ngl that seems needlessly toxic...

[stuck phoenix]

Well, armour would

But no, damage is damage

[soft perch]

because cocced transfigs definitely share the same cd across items as the non-transfig

because the game treats them as the same skill

[dark grove]

so thats uselles got it

[whole bluff]

I dont know whether split between pools affects hit size like splitting between elements with armour vs elemental, but I would be surprisedf

[crystal talon]

He is british (derogatory) thus it isn't needless

[pulsar dune]

It's relevant for 100% trans PTA armorstackers in standard, since they want to split their phys taken as across multiple elements

Since armor is calculated separately

[spice pecan]

hmm, traps don't have a duration tag even tho the trans searing bond has it

[stuck phoenix]

What do we say about tags

Also

[soft perch]

because traps dont have duration

they have trap duration

[stuck phoenix]

Why would they have the tag

[spice pecan]

i know

[whole bluff]

yeah, trap duration is a separate type of stat

[soft perch]

and ggg is very careful to not add much trap duration and they removed a ton of it

[spice pecan]

i'm really fucking stupid but like, not that stupid

[pulsar dune]

It's more if you have recovery of both, you get to run around with 4k life and 4k es and recover faster than without it

[spice pecan]

i was simply making a stupid observation from a stupid brain

[crystal talon]

Being serious they are treated as identical skills, but they are not specificlly "this skill"

[whole bluff]

tbf, I think trap duration may at some point have been normal duration, not sure

but now theyre unrelated

[crystal talon]

I could have two identical apples, but when I point at one and say "this apple" I'm not referring to both

[lament lynx]

hype

[pulsar dune]

If you take two separate gems of the trans searing bond, would those share totems? I assume no

[soft perch]

but also things that have brand new wording are usually the things that have weird interactions

[pulsar dune]

Otherwise the tech is pretty obvious and pretty cringe.

[spice pecan]

yeah even a 74 sunblast doesn't feel particularly great with the 15 totems i'm testing ingame rn

[whole bluff]

but anyway, I as the person who even brought sunblast into the discussion now feel kinda stupid, considering the 2.4m base radius

[lucid gale]

torrent's up

[soft perch]

your totem max is shared across ur character

[whole bluff]

if the base radius was +0.1 per totem maybe

[crystal talon]

you see though im built diff and psionically linked to mark_ggg

[native abyss]

you wouldnt download a car

[pulsar dune]

Yea sunblast is a bit ass ngl

[soft perch]

except some skills can have slightly more

[spice pecan]

then i guess i was right, this idea was a mistake

[wraith gyro]

if you want 1 click high totem count SBoD you just triggerbot arcanist brand it IMO

[signal shoal]

Tatiantel2 or palsteron fussilade totems, that do you think? never played totems before

[soft perch]

sunblast is still better than mobs actually triggering traps for this

its just cooked

[whole bluff]

true

[lucid gale]

Might be time to stop seeding 0.4 from my personal seedbox:

[pulsar dune]

Surely you can't trigger totem skills

[onyx adder]

Its less ass than cluster traps

[whole bluff]

sunblast lightning trap is a bad bow build

I had much fun spawncamping breaches on that in early keepers

I only built to do breaches as easily as possible, and day 2 assassin gave some decent dmg for only clearing purposes, but it didnt exactly have any potential

[slow sonnet]

I am so confused about wintertide brand

Is 900k genuinely the best DPS it can pull off?

[cerulean breach]

yarr!

[blazing spear]

yea

[spice pecan]

cold dot builds use like 5 different cold dot skills to get above that

[slow sonnet]

Ohhhh

[soft perch]

the amount of dps u actually need to clear maps is drastically overstated

[crystal talon]

with that said. 900k is def not the top end for wintertide

[soft perch]

also true

[cerulean breach]

hmm, my elementalist ignite maw of mischief, should I level it as ignite or level it as RF

[cosmic raptor]

Leg started?

[whole bluff]

tomorrow

[crystal talon]

Should reasonably be able to do like 5-10m on wintertide

[whole bluff]

20h21min?

idr

[gentle chasm]

you usually start with 2 legs

[blazing spear]

wintertide is trashcan

[soft perch]

wintertides top end defo exists at a reasonable level when both indigon and foulborn rathpith exist

[crystal talon]

I'd say woc/flameblast ignite for sure

[soft perch]

u have two ways to make spell damage scaling dots get to pretty great numbers

[crystal talon]

Not even including those two things

[cerulean breach]

I was thinking that but saw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iKQXXD1fi4

[crystal talon]

just like normal ahh build gem level scaling and passive tree grab the cold damage

[slow sonnet]

Was following a guide that said he could do ubers with wintertide on his SSF character but he only had 900k (non-uber DPS)

And I feel like it has to be bait

[cosmic raptor]

Then why do you have 0

[crystal talon]

Was that just the damage of a single brand?

[cerulean breach]

900k in pob?

[lucid gale]

Remember mateys, if you download the torrent for anything but PC Standalone, you'll walk the plank.

[onyx adder]

does wintertide work in pob yet

[cerulean breach]

wintertide does much more than pob says

[onyx adder]

that skill has mathematics