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[karmic gust]

https://poedb.tw/us/Mirage_uniques

[hexed mountain]

Katal gaming?

[surreal musk]

reliquarian is complete ass

[hexed mountain]

No u

[karmic gust]

yea

[gritty epoch]

Are they gonna release gem info pre launch?

[soft perch]

for most things its ass

for bleed its good

[cerulean breach]

I hadn't seen that one

[hexed mountain]

Looks good ok pyroclast mines too

[cerulean breach]

I had only seen the life flask one

[soft perch]

yea sure

[cerulean breach]

but eh

[soft perch]

can probs play a reasonable kf setup on reliquarian too

[cerulean breach]

I still don't see it

[surreal musk]

u know in HC keepers 2x armour from body armour is juggs least taken ascendancy notable

and that one doesnt have a downside and is 1/4th of ur ascendancy not 1/3rd

[hexed mountain]

Can easily get a giga clzar setup with beacon too

[karmic gust]

you get like 80-90% more damage and cast speed from the hiero node

[hexed mountain]

It also doesnt have 3 max res, cant be crit

[soft perch]

ye ignoring the 3 max res and and cant be crit

[cerulean breach]

pyroclast mines looked ok but it's 100% offense then

[karmic gust]

and indigon ofc

its a lot of damage

just defense is rough because you are mom build

and mom build defenses suck

[hexed mountain]

I take brass dome over +2 aura gems once i have a decent chest tbh

[cerulean breach]

how much flask effect are we talking

[karmic gust]

62%

[eternal folio]

i ain’t reading all those patch notes are we back is 3.28 hype

[hexed mountain]

Yes

[karmic gust]

that is tides, chest and annoint and spiked

[soft perch]

we might be back yea

[eternal folio]

W

[green patrol]

this 2x armor does not count towards the spectral shield dmg right

[hexed mountain]

It doesnt yes

[soft perch]

it does not

[cerulean breach]

ok so where's the other billion% then?

[hexed mountain]

Its still a pretty good node considering you use a 2500 armor shield

[gloomy charm]

Is poison spark viable for league start? Or any sort of spark?

[cerulean breach]

that's 130% increased arcane surge effect

[karmic gust]

wym? it applies flask effect to surge effect at 210% value

[soft perch]

i personally wouldnt leaguestart poison spark

[karmic gust]

so 62 * 3.1

[hexed mountain]

Can probably roll a perseverance setup with the double shield and a necrotic chest

[soft perch]

or spark in general

[cerulean breach]

• 2.1

it's not 210% more effect

it's AT 210% effect

[karmic gust]

ah, then its uuh

[cerulean breach]

arcane surge gives 20% more dmg with hiero

[gloomy charm]

Guess it’s WocT then, woc > woct elementalist probably

[karmic gust]

68% more damage and 68% inc cast sped

[gloomy charm]

Or trickster might be better

[cerulean breach]

still wrong

[karmic gust]

no thats correct

[hexed mountain]

Wave of trarthus looks like ass clear on mines tbh

[karmic gust]

as thats with the surge node on tree also

[gloomy charm]

Yeah, may stick with WOC but I’ve never played either skill

[cerulean breach]

yes I'm assuming this

[hexed mountain]

I would just go glacial cascade of fissure mines

[cerulean breach]

base is 20%

[karmic gust]

surge node on tree

[short meadow]

IM GONNA LOSE IT

[karmic gust]

arcane capacitor

[short meadow]

HOW DID I FORGET XMOUSE

I WENT INTO LOGITECH G HUB, NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL, AND NVIDIA APP

[cerulean breach]

yes, that DEVALUES the amulet, not makes it more valuable

[short meadow]

thats why its only fucking happening in poe

[gloomy charm]

Oooh never played that either!

[cerulean breach]

assuming you get 70% effect from arcane capacitor

[karmic gust]

yes but you wouldnt be mana hiero in first place without the amulet

[short meadow]

my fucking god

[cerulean breach]

baseline is 20 * 1.7 = 34% more

[finite quail]

lmfao

[cerulean breach]

with the amulet it's 20 * 3 = 60% more

[finite quail]

its always something

[cerulean breach]

which is, comparitively

[short meadow]

im like

no i dont have mouse software besides logitech g hub

[cerulean breach]

>>> 1.6/1.3
1.2307692307692308

[short meadow]

jfc

[cerulean breach]

@karmic gust the amulet actually only contributes 23% more dmg

[sleek ocean]

@karmic gustwhat ascension would you league start on with ele hit if plan to go 2 ascensions into breachlords? 🤔

[cerulean breach]

and that's after investing belt, amulet, annoint, and all the other shit

[karmic gust]

yea

[cerulean breach]

yeah that's fucking dogshit my dude sorry

[karmic gust]

you also enabled indigon and solved life recovery at same time

wym

[finite quail]

that amulet is so good ngl

[karmic gust]

slayer

[cerulean breach]

what did you do to 'enable indigon'?

[sleek ocean]

kinda what im thinking as well 🤔

[soft perch]

its defo slayer

idk how u get like

[soft perch]

actually good defences for juice

[karmic gust]

it gives you enduring mana flask

[cerulean breach]

5k mana / sec? you ramp beyond that so fast

[karmic gust]

no you dont

did you played indigon brands before

its like 2k mana/s

[cerulean breach]

I haven't

[karmic gust]

you just click them every 2 seconds

basically

to keep indigon fully ramped but not overramp

[soft perch]

brands also have a bunch of mana restore stuff as well

like the mastery

[cerulean breach]

like if you genuinely use it to enable indigon, then sure

[karmic gust]

yea they did not had that when i played it

but i dont think it matters much for this anyway

[cerulean breach]

I'm just saying that the more% dmg it enables is basically nothing

[karmic gust]

well you kinda have to use indigon with it

so yea

[cerulean breach]

and didn't they put the enduring mana flask thing on something else recently anyway

I recall that

[opal ingot]

i forgot that bama ele hit still exists

[karmic gust]

its pretty much made for it

[gritty epoch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohv-7yCZZOM

[rich widget]

is the the hallowed monarch be better the wraithlord

[finite quail]

INSANE bug report

[cobalt blade]

personally like the route of fuck that amulet use replensihing shrine belt for indigon

[karmic gust]

its not even bug tho

[finite quail]

I'm just parroting what other people said dont pay attention to me

[karmic gust]

its written on the gem

ah alrgiht

[runic raptor]

Is this good pathing?

[hybrid harness]

I didn't rlly get this vid, is the whole tech that u get to reserve it on life but not pay the 2.2x reservation price?

[karmic gust]

only the indigon mana to life mod

i dont think we have actual enduring mana flasks anywhere else, maybe it was on one of phrecia ascendancies

idk

but def not base game

[cerulean breach]

no I recall them putting enduring somewhere

but maybe I misremember

[hexed mountain]

Whisperer had enduring mana

[cerulean breach]

that might be it

[hexed mountain]

In phrecia 2

[stray sedge]

What's the reason for slayer for ele hit build

[gritty epoch]

what build

[stray sedge]

Haven't played a duelist in a while

[soft perch]

its good

[hexed mountain]

AoE and generally good stats

[stray sedge]

Lol well

[soft perch]

what else would u click

lule

[karmic gust]

i wouldnt say its good

its just least shitty option

[finite quail]

the part about the reservation efficiency applying to the reservation from autoexert should be a bug though, no? since the reservation amount cannot be further modified, its what it says on the gem

[opal ingot]

you know what's the best ele hit build

[hexed mountain]

Ele hit just feels piss b1d without AoE so its slayer or jugg

And jugg is cringe

[stray sedge]

Idk I'm sure there's a few different ascendancies that are competitive

[opal ingot]

necromancer 😎 with bama 😎

[karmic gust]

well that line always only applied to linked gems

[finite quail]

-33% damage bama ch_cool

[cerulean breach]

does that even work with the bloodline

[opal ingot]

previe still says bama is cool so we saved copium

[karmic gust]

elementalist and warden and glad maybe

[opal ingot]

yes

[karmic gust]

but warden is glass, elementalist pathing sucks

and glad idk

[opal ingot]

prismatic clones still have bow ele hit

[karmic gust]

anoying to build

[hexed mountain]

Warden would be turbo damage but no AoE

[stray sedge]

Hmmm

[runic raptor]

Archmage Lightning reap its my own build im blasting through campaign with 1,330 mana 2,980 life 1k energy shield

[cerulean breach]

but we don't know if the conversion mod works with clones

[opal ingot]

the pob warrioring is gonna be WILD

[karmic gust]

like the stats that ele providees

[opal ingot]

oh fuck...

[karmic gust]

would be peprfect

if the pathing wasnt so dogshit

[soft perch]

the highest damage ascendancy is probably azadi glad

but like

[livid quarry]

ele hit going to nerfed b4 leag

[soft perch]

gl building it

[hexed mountain]

There are other abuse cases than ele hit anyway

[karmic gust]

i rly dont like state of current ascendancies ngl

[cerulean breach]

...what?

[karmic gust]

well i like elementalist

and thats about it

and pathfinder ofc

[soft perch]

yea

[cerulean breach]

I don't follow

[soft perch]

dance with death azadi is a funny meme

[karmic gust]

and maybe chieftain

[cerulean breach]

in what is azadi glad the highest damage ascendancy for anything

[karmic gust]

noone else has any interesting defensive options

[hexed mountain]

I love wildspeaker

[karmic gust]

so its just pain

[soft perch]

dance with death with azadi ends up as like 130% more damage

and its complete death to play on anything except glad

[cerulean breach]

for what?

[soft perch]

skills with pretty variable damage ranges

[gritty epoch]

so elehit hit twice right? one with hit and one explosion?

[soft perch]

elehit is like 40% lightning so u slap volatility on it and it goes bigly

[soft perch]

no

[karmic gust]

wildspeaker was the mana phrecia one right

i also liked that one

had interesting defenses at least

[soft perch]

theres a lot of azadi glads atm with dance with death

[hexed mountain]

The wolves dex stack minion one

[soft perch]

its a pretty crazy build for softcore

[karmic gust]

oh

which one was the mana one

[soft perch]

yes it can randomly get oneshot, but its so unlikely

[hexed mountain]

Flickering everyday

[karmic gust]

i liekd that

[hexed mountain]

Whisperer

[sleek ocean]

with the embued?=

[cerulean breach]

this is wild misinformation

[gritty epoch]

just one?

[soft perch]

ok

mb for looking at pob

[cerulean breach]

>>> avg(azadi(1, 1000) for _ in range(100000))
751.15004

>>> def azadi(lo, hi):
...     a = random.randrange(lo, hi)
...     b = random.randrange(lo, hi)
...     c = random.randrange(lo, hi)
...     return max(a, b, c)

[hexed mountain]

Double lucky damage and crit. Hance enables marylene

[cerulean breach]

average goes from 500 to 750

it's 50% more dmg for a completely variable roll (1 to N)

[soft perch]

dance with death is lucky crit and lucky damage

[sleek ocean]

imbueing with red can always give you brutality so can always ruin yyour skill xD

[soft perch]

and lets u use marylenes

[cerulean breach]

yes the lucky crit can help cheapen the build by investing less into crit but is hard to put a concrete damage % on

[karmic gust]

there will be a lot of these anyway

totem/ballista supports

void manip

ele focus

[cerulean breach]

but in terms of actual roll variability, it's 50% more dmg

[soft perch]

sure but the archetype of a lot of lightning and ~50% crit after marylenes ends up being like 130% more damage or more

[karmic gust]

controlled destruction

[cyan grove]

i think i might want to farm harvest from the beginning, any tress or build recommendations?

[sleek ocean]

the deadly affliction

[karmic gust]

green has least bricks i guess

oh right

so maybe not :d

[sleek ocean]

so always level alot of gems

[hexed mountain]

Red has totems as brick and bruta

[karmic gust]

technically anything thatdirectly do not benefits you is semi brick

because of mana costs

[hexed mountain]

But a lot of good gems

[cerulean breach]

@soft perch it's a cool tech don't get me wrong, but just presenting it as "it's 130% more dmg" ain't right

[brittle phoenix]

1-2 coins a day so like 3-6 for me

[limpid prairie]

Is Arrow Dancing worth picking up?

[cerulean breach]

I'm considering azadi block glad bleed earthquake

[karmic gust]

not rly

[cerulean breach]

but pretty much only to farm expeditions

[soft perch]

if youre majority lightning, have azadis, click volatility, click marylenes, have ~50% crit, its around 130-150% more damage

[karmic gust]

its sometimes somewhat useful for bow builds

[soft perch]

are you happier now

[karmic gust]

but even then garbage

[sleek ocean]

gred has Knockback Support and life leech support

[hexed mountain]

Ruthless level 1 is alread at 70% more damage every 3 hits its really good tol

[soft perch]

its an absurdly efficient damage engine for softcore

it just kills you if youre not using glad block

[karmic gust]

knockback support underrated ngl

i wouldnt even be mad about tht one

[opal ingot]

there should be a support gem brick tierlist

[soft perch]

and for the record, for a normal crit build

[hexed mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559824400229335051/1477408573368565800/image.png?ex=69a55034&is=69a3feb4&hm=2956a0c10aa84b163981f30ccadb4fb9eb420477ffced736213cbf7258c1ac96&

[tranquil umbra]

brutality on any elemental build

[soft perch]

having marylenes pretty much always puts you at like 50% crit

because its 48% less crit

so yes, its pretty easy to put an average around it

thats the point of the setup lol

[hexed mountain]

I put in red the bricks for most builds

[soft perch]

be lightning and abuse lightnings damage range

[hexed mountain]

Bruta do brick some

[karmic gust]

you know

[opal ingot]

wow nice

[sleek ocean]

accuracy suuport is a brick

[karmic gust]

random trauma 7th link

is kinda nice for some stuff :d

like mokous and shit

[cerulean breach]

between volatility and quality ryslatha phys is also up there haha

[cerulean breach]

is it?

I wouldn't say so

[soft perch]

youve made a fatal error btw

[karmic gust]

isnt lvl 1 accu like nothing

[sleek ocean]

110% mana for 74 accurracy

[soft perch]

lucky damage does nothing for ailments

[cerulean breach]

or wait level 1

yeah no level 1 is brick

[cerulean breach]

I never said anything about lucky bleed?

I just want azadi for the block lol

[soft perch]

fair enough

azadi bleed is rly good ye

[sleek ocean]

both added lightning and cold supports are bricks

[soft perch]

i think sunder is better than earthquake

but eq is fine

it makes sense for exped

[cerulean breach]

vaal eq for expeditions

[floral star]

got a pic for blue/green gems?

[cerulean breach]

is pog

[sleek ocean]

added fire is ok

[mystic socket]

what looks good to leaguestart?

[hexed mountain]

Havent done yet.

[soft perch]

i might actually pob puncture reliquarian

[hexed mountain]

Will probably do tomorrow am in bed

[soft perch]

we see zaresh bloodline when we get tree data right

[sleek ocean]

crit damage is a massive win'

wonder if you can roll Item Rarity Support

[soft perch]

am i coping to say this looks like bleed ignite and poison

maybe bleed reliquarian is real

[karmic gust]

is taht new bloodline?

[soft perch]

ye

[karmic gust]

hopefully something decent :d

[onyx adder]

How does the imbued work btw

Can it just choose nonsense supports

[soft perch]

no

[sleek ocean]

lifegain on hit is kinda miss as wellö

[karmic gust]

only supportable stuff

[soft perch]

only supportable supports

[onyx adder]

Or is the list only from whats actually linkable

icic

[floral star]

only valid supports. so for example green supports on marks will be mark on hit since there's no other valid options

[karmic gust]

it also functions like normal support so its linked to everything there properly

for stuff like hextouch shit etc

[onyx adder]

So multi totem isnt scary because it only applies to like 2 skills

[soft perch]

possibly higher quality image

[sleek ocean]

@karmic gustChance to Flee Support green gem

[soft perch]

im willing to bet

bleed ignite poison

[karmic gust]

yea but not possible to get stuff like charged mines on regular skills

[soft perch]

cuz necromancer guy seems rot themed

[onyx adder]

Wat dis

[sleek ocean]

kinda look like minions

[onyx adder]

New bloodline?

[soft perch]

zaresh bloodline

[onyx adder]

Im in for dot support

[soft perch]

we already have a whole ass minion bloodline bro surely not

[karmic gust]

2 even

[onyx adder]

We have 1.5 minion bloodlines

No more plz

[soft perch]

same cuz then u can go brass dome, jack the axe and BLEED NODE

HOLY

bleed bow is so back

[sleek ocean]

its undead and necromancers

[onyx adder]

Bleed bow is never back

[soft perch]

be nice

its so back

[onyx adder]

Im certainly not clicking bleed bow without aggravated bleed

Thats for fuckin sure

[soft perch]

ff glad

login

[cerulean breach]

or the uber something boots

[karmic gust]

rearguard bleed blow glad

[sleek ocean]

if imbue can roll cast on / hextouch their costs will skyrocket

[onyx adder]

It certainly does bleed blow

[soft perch]

inb4 it is bleed ignite and poison

but minion only

[onyx adder]

Dont u fuckin start

It'll be bleed ignite and poison but brand only at this rate

[modern zinc]

I really

[karmic gust]

there def will be some dumb condition either way

[modern zinc]

really need 3.28 friday march 6 to come asap

[karmic gust]

all bloodlines are like that so expecting any different is very hopeful

[modern zinc]

I feel like a crack addict on abstinence

https://tenor.com/view/itch-crackhead-drugs-drugaddict-addict-gif-11128316954240258813

[hexed mountain]

I wouldnt be surprised if the league bloodline is dot based as they are necromancers and low lives

[karmic gust]

50% more ignite damage on repeat

or some shit

[hexed mountain]

(and we got catarina already)

[onyx adder]

Hey man i can click lycia and get 67% conversion with NO CONDITIONS

[onyx adder]

Bro if theres 50% more poison damage on repeat im logging in so hard

[karmic gust]

thats why i said ignite :d

[cerulean breach]

maybe I'm just playing wandian again

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/orlp-2505/orlp_wandian?timemachine=day-3&i=0&search=timemachine%3Dday-3%26name%3Dwandian

this was my day 3 char

[hexed mountain]

10% more poison damage, you have no boots slot. Also you are voided on death

[cerulean breach]

dps looks low but it was really popping

even before hh

shrines go crayz

[onyx adder]

Every pob ive actually finished since patch notes has consuming dark in it

I might need professional help

[karmic gust]

were you just rawdogging kboc? damn

[cerulean breach]

chu mean?

rawdogging?

[karmic gust]

no fork no chain

unless just ninja issue with runegraft

[hexed mountain]

Surely he got runegraft day 3 in trade

[sleek ocean]

there is alot of breaks after looking through what gems can support a skill like ele hit

[cerulean breach]

I had the runegraft

I didn't have this

You count as on Low Life while at 55% of maximum Life or below

[karmic gust]

ah that makes more senes then :d

no runegraft next league tho

[cerulean breach]

I'd just play normal KB

tbh I was swapping between the two

[true falcon]

Can you recoup life costs

[cerulean breach]

the bigger loss is no double tornado / runegrafts

(although I didn't know about it at the time anyway)

[karmic gust]

yea but that was bug anyway so doesnt count

[blazing nymph]

No, costs aren't damage

[cerulean breach]

@karmic gust but idk pob says shit dmg

but between the shrines and headhunter

I was blasting

I also had the runegraft that makes the buffs last longer

so I had 3-4 shrines

[karmic gust]

yea i mean hh with kboc is very gud

you will kinda havev issue with KB tho

without the flat phys there right

[cerulean breach]

what flat phys?

[karmic gust]

i guess you did not had much mana anwyay

[cerulean breach]

m8 I had 1k mana

[pseudo axle]

watching the Ziz Q&A with the devs, it is mentioned that "local elemental weapon damage is not converted with the lycia bloodline."

weird

[karmic gust]

funnily enough thats still 200 flat phys

funny skill

[cerulean breach]

tbh

[pseudo axle]

however the lycia bloodline does apparently convert elemental hit added ele damage?

[cerulean breach]

KBoC with just pierce on the tree is also fine

[karmic gust]

yea but then you have to aim

and thats pain

[soft perch]

@karmic gust https://pobb.in/GqLEnOvprjdY btw just use double unseen hue

one brittle one sap

[cerulean breach]

not really

[soft perch]

makes defences a bit better

also siones is pointless

u have slayer strike range

[cerulean breach]

you just hit your spellslinger tornado

[pseudo axle]

also apparently local elemental damage has never actually been 'added damage' in the same sense as other sources

[cerulean breach]

which kills everything 360 around you

[karmic gust]

hmm i guess the sap ring isnt hat much worse ethan taming

[cerulean breach]

that's not new

battlemage only works with local dmg on weapon

[mint gorge]

guys when is the jung interview

[karmic gust]

but man the clear is gonna be so much worse on the cold version

[cerulean breach]

I just hope jung won't be as annoying as ziz in the interview

[karmic gust]

regardless of the siones just in general

[soft perch]

ye

[pseudo axle]

battlemage also works with things like abyss jewels, does it not?

or wait

[soft perch]

u have enough damage to socket ancestral call tbh

[cerulean breach]

more than half of the 'questions' ziz asked weren't actually questions, just basically him pitching his ideas / takes on the game to the developer

[prime needle]

ziz is fucking insufferable

[soft perch]

agree

[pseudo axle]

don't care, didn't ask

[prime needle]

100% agreed he's an annoying interviewer that doesn't know how to have a casual conversation

[soft perch]

no

[hard cliff]

This looks expensive

[karmic gust]

we got a lot of useful info from the interview anyway at least

[hard cliff]

day 1 setup ?

[prime needle]

his interview is more like an interrogation

[karmic gust]

which isnt the case usually

[cerulean breach]

I think he's fine as a person, I was just annoyed by what I mentioned

[mint gorge]

generational ragebaitiing happening in chat

[karmic gust]

so i dont mind :d

[cerulean breach]

it wasn't, I would've liked an interrogation

[soft perch]

yes it does

admirals arrogance is pricy

[cerulean breach]

half of ziz's questions were of the form "wouldn't it be better if you did <my idea for some game design>?"

[prime needle]

no what i mean by that is he has no interview flow or interpersonal skills

[cerulean breach]

which has nothing to do with a question and answer about the upcoming league

[karmic gust]

squishier, slightly more damage, slightly less clunky, more epxensive

than tri ele hit

smh

[prime needle]

especially combined with andrews first real time out there

so instead of a comprehensive or good flowing breakdown of what to expect including more deep dive

[karmic gust]

maybe tempered + dawnbreaker

could be good

[pseudo axle]

zizran could maybe benefit from better questions, agreed

[soft perch]

oh god

[karmic gust]

someone was posting fire ee hit in build planning with those defenses

[soft perch]

rip block

[karmic gust]

looked ok

[karmic gust]

yea but like double max hit

[cerulean breach]

I want to play corrupting fever

[soft perch]

hmm

[cerulean breach]

but I know the single target is so asssss

and that banner thing seems clunky as hell to get going

[soft perch]

time for some banner coping

tbh reap/vaal reap does do a decent amount of damage

[pseudo axle]

I almost kinda want to try something with spell impale

[cerulean breach]

eh

I've played it

it's really mid tbh

[karmic gust]

cant you just do the foulborn rathpith thing eventually

[soft perch]

ye

[karmic gust]

to fix the damage

[pseudo axle]

Impale is such a weirdly complicated mechanic

[soft perch]

lifestack reap is also definitely the best way to play it now

[karmic gust]

yea i think that setup looked good

[prime needle]

them not giving ziz another interview would be good

[soft perch]

well i guess losing double bereks feels bad

ngl

can still ff occultist i spose

or use witchbane

[cerulean breach]

let me be clear: only reason I'd like to play corrupting fever is glad

idk glad 96% block is just broken

[soft perch]

just go bleed glad

[cerulean breach]

I can probably make a solid pob but it feels so terrible knowing it has less than half the dmg of equivalent slayer 2h slam bleed

[soft perch]

@karmic gust if u do make a dawnbreaker pob im interested

[cerulean breach]

there is eviscerate but that ain't me

[soft perch]

i spent all day pobbing tho im a bit pobbed out

[karmic gust]

you can always alcerate of haemorrhage

its good skill

[cerulean breach]

no

no it's not a good skill

[soft perch]

time for the middle ground

[karmic gust]

it has like 940% DE

[soft perch]

of reliquarian 2h bleed

HOLY

[cerulean breach]

it's smaller aoe than my flaccid dick

[soft perch]

i legit think reliquarian 2h bleed is gonna see a good amount of play in hc no meme

[cerulean breach]

and once you account for fist of war/exert and such earthquake isn't far off tbh

[soft perch]

star align pob of ruthless and fist of war

login

[cerulean breach]

ruthless is pob bait

fist of war is legit

[soft perch]

i know

theres a non-zero chance i log in bleed reliq cuz ehit is so unique heavy lmao

[karmic gust]

yea but then you are playing earthquake

[cerulean breach]

ryslatha + volatility + fist of war is pob bait again

[soft perch]

and people are acting like breach ele hit is the most broken thing ever

when its really not

[cerulean breach]

earthquake is literally the best bleed skill idk what to tell you

you just run around with vaal eq

[karmic gust]

i mean idk about it being the best bleed skill but regular eq def isnt very good skill

veq sure sometimes

[cerulean breach]

I mean why not

[soft perch]

sunder is better than regular eq

just way better coverage

[karmic gust]

regular eq also feels like ass to actually play

[soft perch]

ye it has a lot of hoops to jump through

sunder just works

[cerulean breach]

I've played both and I preferred EQ

but eh

it's the same build

[soft perch]

yea true

[cerulean breach]

you just swap the gems

lmao what is this legend

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Jaillor-1592/supertf?i=2&search=skills%3DSunder%26weaponmode%3DAxe%2B%252F%2BShield

[karmic gust]

i saw few of these when i was looking for iblow ignite, idk why everyone hates clicking defiled forces so much

they are deleting it now but like i would just click it on every single ignite build before no reason not to

[cobalt blade]

holy self casting 2 curses

oh wait no its focus casting thats even more cursed

[karmic gust]

focus casting isnt bad

it auto aims

[cobalt blade]

idk about you but i always just forget it exists on bars

[karmic gust]

i used to do that for expeds with trriple curse and hexbloom

was very nice :d

[sleek ocean]

es tattoos might be worth it now that int to es got hit

[raw cove]

I mean they were always pretty expensive, like 2 div or so, no?

oh wait nvm I'm thinking of a different one I think

[cobalt blade]

thnk that was herald

but es tattoo's have hit expensive prices from the fross players before

[sleek ocean]

can target farm the color of tattoos

[true falcon]

I can't tell if I'm struggling to make good builds this league, or if my standards have just gotten higher

[karmic gust]

EB builds are still semi alive right so ppl will most likely use thema bunch i guess

[bleak umbra]

https://i.imgur.com/wSsvb3y.png Am I crazy? I was looking at maybe playing a bow build (SSF) in the upcoming league. I never see anyone take this node, 15% chance to gain 200 life on hit. I feel that is genuinely not bad at all as a defensive layer in terms of SSF power scaling

In particular, with Rain of Arrows

[short prairie]

the terminus est node is so underwhelming

[cobalt blade]

or you could click instant leech

[karmic gust]

its decent node but now you have instant leech instead

[sleek ocean]

eb is still gonna be great

[soft perch]

well they nerfed stuff and grafts are gone

[cobalt blade]

tho i think ive seen that anointed on poison molten strike before

[runic raptor]

This is my favorite build I've ever made

[bleak umbra]

hmm is 10% instant leech good enough in an SSF context? genuine question im not trying to troll haha

because your attack speed/damage are lower

[karmic gust]

its good for every hit build

and isnt it 5% now

[cobalt blade]

its 5% now but its pretty damn good

[true falcon]

I never included grafts in builds and the nerfs didn't really touch me

[karmic gust]

your damage needs to be turbo low to not cap leech instances

that will not happen in any context usually

outside of deadly ailments builds

[cobalt blade]

^ youll basically always cap leech if your not in deep delve basically

on most builds

[bleak umbra]

no no, I am just thinking of tri ele rain of arrows reliquarian with a giga rog quiver

so dps should be fine

[karmic gust]

yea should be fine then

[cobalt blade]

lets say u have 500k average hit thats a 5000 leech instance more than the x% of your life it can be per instance :p

[karmic gust]

i cant think of good setup i would pob for the shrine belt at all

[bleak umbra]

500k avg hit would be a lot for an ssf bow build, no?

[karmic gust]

and by good i mean fun

[cobalt blade]

no?

thats just a mix of t3/t2 bow isnt it

[wicked shore]

I wanna make a paint build but I'm not using any exceptional gems. Which feels kinda boring?

[karmic gust]

500k avg hit on roa would be pretty good amount i think

[true falcon]

I assume I'll never see a good new belt

[sleek ocean]

still limited to your max life

[bleak umbra]

OK, cool, thanks, I guess yall are right I was just hoping to discover lowkey OP new regen node haha

[cobalt blade]

yes "more than the x% of your life per instance"

[true falcon]

I mostly just pob for like 2 voidstones and go from there mid league

[cobalt blade]

i did literally state that

[karmic gust]

i think i used that node like once when leveling with toxic rain or pconc or some shit

idr

but yea its not very good

[cobalt blade]

poison molten strike anointed it sometimes

[empty bronze]

leech is default capped at 10% health per second

[cobalt blade]

was decent recovery since it couldnt rly leech

and molten strike balls

[karmic gust]

yea that makes sense

[empty bronze]

you can bypass that with instant leech if you hit fast enough

[warm harbor]

according to patch note updates is Mamba saved or not?

[karmic gust]

its pretty much unchanged

[cobalt blade]

yes

[soft perch]

what do u even mean by this

[cerulean breach]

maybe I play a bower

[soft perch]

is this because u can only pob tides of time setups

[cobalt blade]

its fine damage wise gonna feel worse from lower atk speed

[bleak umbra]

Yeah I guess it makes more sense on skills like molten where u are potentially hitting one enemy many times per usage of the skill, which is not as easy with RoA as it is with molten strike

[karmic gust]

wish i knew

[normal hedge]

why

[karmic gust]

i mean im not gonna play slams

or uuh

[cerulean breach]

why does no one play bower with asenath's mark tornado

[soft perch]

isnt accel shrine + resistance shrine just better mageblood

[cobalt blade]

bro does not enjoy 50% action speed 🥀

[cobalt blade]

yes

[sleek ocean]

kinda wants gull

[soft perch]

isnt screams of the dessicated just more or less better on anything that isnt a deathbeam build

[cobalt blade]

You dont need gull

[karmic gust]

well thebelt is same as tides for all my builds anyway :d

i just have few things i want

good recovery

good max hits

[cerulean breach]

it's straight up double dmg with ele hit of spectrum / lightning arrow

[karmic gust]

good damage

[cobalt blade]

Its good for the setups but not mandatory

[karmic gust]

good clear

good recovery is the hardest part

[bleak umbra]

Yeah the only downside is solving ele ailments / curses and so on elsewhere but that is pretty ez with jewel implicits or purity of elements

[soft perch]

if ur in melee range as a bow build

which is uhhhhhhh

gl

[short prairie]

I was expecting crit chance aspd on top of the frenzy on crit, but instead we have move spd, so scuffed

[tough cove]

ah new notes now i have to rethink league start again

[cobalt blade]

I personally plan on trying replenishing shrine on a frostmage setup to maybe enable indigon

[cerulean breach]

idk I always end up in melee range anyway

[soft perch]

bow builds are not known for their survivability

[tough cove]

that just means you arent doing enough damage

[prime needle]

CWS still the go to for ultimatum this league?

[karmic gust]

the new ammy is like closest to what i want but then th new ammy cant even be used with the shrine belt

so its doomed

[tough cove]

Im pretty sure CWS is dead

or at least crippled

[short prairie]

How

[cobalt blade]

its not lmao

[normal hedge]

yeah cws dead dont play it guys

[cobalt blade]

people already did bloodnotchless cws early setups

[cerulean breach]

why not

[karmic gust]

cant have flasks up

[cobalt blade]

You just keep that in your 40% blood notch setups

[cerulean breach]

instant mana flask :vv:

then cast with arcange surge on that instant tick

but yeah

[soft perch]

am i seriously pobbing scion bleed

i need to be shot

[short prairie]

This is prob what I’m gonna take and make a tanky flicker

[karmic gust]

why cant i just get PF recovery onr random ascendancies

then making builds would be easier

[soft perch]

what about flicker with damage

[worthy cave]

well you can probably play PF with elehit

[cobalt blade]

Its kinda disappointing how mid all the nodes are

[worthy cave]

even with the scuffed damage, you get master surgeon + breachline

[short prairie]

Doesn’t exist on relinquarian

[worthy cave]

then doesn't matter what the fourth node is

[karmic gust]

yea but im not playing pf with shrine belt

[soft perch]

time to branch out

[karmic gust]

and the goal is to play with shrine belt

[soft perch]

and play one of the other

ascendancies in the game

[cobalt blade]

warden shrine belt

[cerulean breach]

if acceleration shrine belt is in I'm 100% playing spark of some sort

[cobalt blade]

big damage no defence

[worthy cave]

that's assuming you can afford accel + a good defensive shrine belt

[cobalt blade]

[soft perch]

same

[karmic gust]

yea but i have standards

[cobalt blade]

its trade skill issue if you cant

[livid quarry]

shrine belt going to cost a mirror

[cobalt blade]

Same

[cerulean breach]

[karmic gust]

where my max hits and recovery

i need

[soft perch]

max hit come from belt

recovery come from idk something

[cobalt blade]

accel+res shrine spark and just vibe

[soft perch]

petrified blood overleech or some shit

[worthy cave]

recovery comes from leech

[karmic gust]

leech without overleech is not good recovery

[cerulean breach]

depends on how fast you hit

[karmic gust]

petrified could work

[worthy cave]

molten strike + imperial claw?

[cerulean breach]

with spark or cast on crit hitting 50 times / sec it's fine

[worthy cave]

all the LGoH?

[karmic gust]

well you just get fucked by dots randomly too much

to my liking

without constant recovery

[cerulean breach]

can always go petrified blood if you really want

[worthy cave]

lightning strike/molten strike + LGoH

[karmic gust]

if we still had the LL graft

[worthy cave]

could also go with recoup

[karmic gust]

then petrified LL recovery would be 10/10

sad that its gone

[worthy cave]

what do you want the recovery on?

[karmic gust]

i pobbed assa with that looked super solid and thats assa

[cerulean breach]

I mean petrified blood is still overleech

just not up as long

[karmic gust]

yea spark is probs most interesting

[bleak umbra]

My plan is to go Victario's Influence, Widowhail, Tear of Purity and just spam auras on bow build

[cerulean breach]

tbh we're not gonna see the teased belt in-game

they're gonna slap on 'can't scale with shrine effect'

[worthy cave]

I mean if you have capped crit

you can do some absolutely nasty things probably

like consider how many points you need to cap crit

[karmic gust]

well im for sure not going to plan around not accel shrine

[cobalt blade]

Seems v legit on inquis steal pious path for es recovery (at the cost of damage) and go 3 rings

[karmic gust]

thats like all the fun there :d

echoing second maybe

[worthy cave]

echoing will be great so long as you don't depend on a movement skill that'll just put you back in place kekw

[cobalt blade]

+then having leech/instant leech as your secondary recovery layer

seems okay

[karmic gust]

yea inquis recovery is still pretty good i guess

[cerulean breach]

is there something that double-dips off echoing?

that scales both with attack / cast speed and the echo effect

[cobalt blade]

what do you mean

[karmic gust]

oh actually

i can just not be inquis

[soft perch]

skill issue

[karmic gust]

and FF inquis node

[soft perch]

i will be planning around the accel shrine

[karmic gust]

i wanted to do that on hiero feew tmes bfore

[soft perch]

baseg

[cerulean breach]

for example for mines echo is double dmg but they don't scale the attack speed

[soft perch]

i will be using an accel or echoing belt

[cobalt blade]

not that i can think of theres only inc and reduction to cast speed apply to atks not more cast speed

[cobalt blade]

youd have to go rational doctrine no?

[karmic gust]

yes

[cobalt blade]

probably fine

[sleek ocean]

echobelt with any movement skill XD

[soft perch]

they changed it a while ago

moveskills dont repeat

[karmic gust]

can just do guardian for the theme :d

or justhiero for the hybrid

[cobalt blade]

but i do think at that point you should consider going just doctrine click ci

(and zo)

[cerulean breach]

anyone here play absolution?

[karmic gust]

i mean i would go foulborn gull right most likely

it will probs have higher pool

[cerulean breach]

I'm curious if absolution would be my tanky map blaster for leaguestart

[karmic gust]

than just going CI

[cobalt blade]

mmm fair forgot about foulborn one

decent bit of es

[soft perch]

@karmic gust unironically

the new belt along with the int nerfs

are a great reason to play life based jiquani

with the helmet

[sleek ocean]

its pretty good and big buff next league

[karmic gust]

hmmm

[cobalt blade]

Yeah thats smth i was considering

[soft perch]

because jiquani kinda needed coruscating or shavs

[karmic gust]

life based jiquani i can get behind for sure

[cobalt blade]

spark gloves jiquanis legit as fuck

[soft perch]

and u cant use coruscating with the belt

and intstack got nerfed so shavs is probably complete dogshit

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/s0lbRcbtDSjx i still have this and the belt would be straight upgrade

[soft perch]

u are welcome

[karmic gust]

and yea i can actually play spark instead with the proj speed

from accel shrine

[soft perch]

🫡

[cerulean breach]

coruscating has always been LOGOUT

refuse to use that piece of shit

[soft perch]

kinda real

traitor coruscating was fine tho

[cobalt blade]

Really the only problem i have with this setup is wtf do you do with your gem sockets

[soft perch]

holy ice spear with giga proj speed

[final owl]

So now idk if I should go KF before it's nerfed or ele hit before it's guaranteed nerfed

[soft perch]

that sounds fun as hell

although i dont think db has ever actually owned any of the gear in his multimirror pobs

xdd

[karmic gust]

well i did own the one in my mamba pobs :d

[soft perch]

can tell you like mamba damn

[cobalt blade]

everything in that ice spear pob looks reasonable

not too expensive

[soft perch]

now add in a mirror belt

cinema

[cobalt blade]

[soft perch]

belt can easily hit 1k-1.5k divines for good roll

[karmic gust]

i dont play 1 button builds often so yea :d

[soft perch]

sublime fire hit 1000 div this league

[cobalt blade]

i dont think itll be that bad just because boss unique really depends on if they give each shrine different weights

[cobalt blade]

yaa

[soft perch]

i can assure u the impression i got from the stream today

[cobalt blade]

got mine at the 1.2m mark lmao

[soft perch]

good belts will be raaaaaaaaare

[cobalt blade]

during week 2 ish

[cobalt blade]

Prolly but i can hope :p

[supple wren]

Is Neversink updated for 3.29?

[soft perch]

honestly the more expensive it is the more to chase

[cobalt blade]

Itll be updated on the day and we dont have item filter info yet

[cerulean breach]

tbh even if I don't get the god belt with good defensive

I'll take just acceleration 😂

[soft perch]

real

[cobalt blade]

fr looking forward to farming that boss as well

[soft perch]

bro fuck my flasks man i just want accel shrine

[cobalt blade]

and ido really think people underestimate how good replenishing is

Hard enables indigon

[elfin shale]

Yeah but its baaaaad

[soft perch]

repleneshing is good but

[karmic gust]

also i guess the 3rd ring very good for jiquani anyway

[soft perch]

acceleration shrine bro

login

[cobalt blade]

its a defense shrine

You run both and people underestimate it so cheaper

[cerulean breach]

how good is hit-based relic of conviction

[livid quarry]

poe way too grindy for a game that resets progress

[cerulean breach]

why is everyone playing this shit poison

[soft perch]

why would u play hitbased over poison

[hard cliff]

true

[karmic gust]

phys minions are just better poison

in general

[cobalt blade]

eh nah

[cerulean breach]

hate poison idk

[soft perch]

theres so much good poison support for minions

theres free unholy might

[cobalt blade]

reset is the whole reason i still have fun

[soft perch]

the insane foulborn united in dreams

[onyx adder]

It does require a minute to set up so day 1 sucks

I agree after that its sweet

[cobalt blade]

day 1 its mostly just campaign sucking

Once ur in maps its a vibe

[soft perch]

man idk what to play

[cobalt blade]

love fresh economy and flipping shit i think will go up

[short prairie]

Flicker

[soft perch]

i think i want to play ele hit even less after the breach stuff

[cerulean breach]

me neither I want a reasonably tanky map blaster with good single target 😡

[raw cove]

In case this one guy is in here..

[cobalt blade]

And live searching shit for cheap for my build swap

[void oasis]

dfoes 3 prospero's protection give you 8x 6x or 2x armour on shield???

[soft perch]

maybe i do just play azadi glad

and go like idk

wrath paradoxica

[cerulean breach]

@soft perch I did cook one thing

spellslinger winter orb tornado chain abuse

[short prairie]

Flicker

I think mage fist is going flicker glad as well

[cerulean breach]

after testing I found you consistently get 20 projectile hits per winter orb

[soft perch]

thats neat actually

they buffed worb as well no

proj speed

[elfin shale]

Lmao so Mamba has gone from an unplayable skill to the same skill with 30% less aspd

[icy swan]

should i play with new sion ?

[craggy fiber]

https://x.com/pathofexile/status/2028286037454361080

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

To the Exile who has been farming for Oni-Goroshi for the last 6 weeks... It doesn't drop in Ruthless.

X · Mar 2, 2026, 1:47 AM

[cerulean breach]

they did?

oh sorry

not winter orb lmoa

eye of winter

[soft perch]

oh

did u use runegraft of refraction

[empty bronze]

no infinite mana eye of winter anymore

[golden phoenix]

Me an hour ago: hey hold on, why did this one person make so many instances in ruthless????

Oh. Oh no.

[empty bronze]

they changed that in keepers league iirc

[wicked shore]

Is 5k energy shield, assuming I've done the math on the int nerf right, still OK for casual mapping?

[empty bronze]

im not seein it in the patch notes?

[karmic gust]

as it should've smh

[soft perch]

refraction does weird stuff with eye of winter

[wicked shore]

Also why doesn't pob allow for conditional custom modifiers? All I wanted was "reduced es per intelligence" was that too much to ask

[karmic gust]

might as well play life build at that point

5k es is very low

[cobalt blade]

do you know how many hours theyve spent trying to farm it

im so curious

[karmic gust]

generally i dont think CI is even worth below 10k es

[wicked shore]

259 unreserved life. Oops.

[empty bronze]

yeah i know

[lucid gale]

That number is a hardcoded divisor, probably because it's never had reason to change.

[empty bronze]

i thought you were saying there was a new buff to eye of winter

[soft perch]

nah

just eye of winter spellslinger tornado was mentioned

and it should still work with refraction

[cerulean breach]

? I didn't say it was

[soft perch]

as per the patch notes not mentioning it

[cerulean breach]

you don't use refraction

you use snakepit

I mean you can still use refraction for +1 chain but idk if it reaches anything

[soft perch]

yea mb it forks then chains anyway

[cerulean breach]

to make it work you need pretty low proj speed

it's kinda melee ngl

[golden phoenix]

110 hours. So far. Last attempt yesterday.

[cerulean breach]

and even with 20 hits per eye of winter, the DE of it from spellslinging isn't that great

[empty bronze]

i thought this was meaning eye of winter buffed

[soft perch]

@cerulean breach btw youre hating on the thunderfist but looks what happenes when u take them off

[empty bronze]

i would love better eye of winter

[soft perch]

literally 75% less damage

[soft perch]

its good item

[cerulean breach]

not on pc with pob

[cobalt blade]

holy shit

[livid quarry]

that guy is going to keep farming it

[karmic gust]

works just fine no

[empty bronze]

ill take some projectile speeed

[empty bronze]

lmao

[karmic gust]

can put any amoutn instead of the first and second number

[soft perch]

thunderfist is genuinely better than a 6l for 1h ele weapon based setups early on

especially if ur using a paradoxica

good item

[wicked shore]

Huh weird I could not get that to work on mine lemme se

[cobalt blade]

1% reduced energy shield per 10 intelligence

[cerulean breach]

anyway

bedtime

maybe tomorrow I can decide build

[cobalt blade]

jus copy that exactly or replace it with deathbeams numbers

[cerulean breach]

https://tenor.com/view/copy-that-call-roger-that-copy-gif-17713322

[wicked shore]

....it was a typo

I was spelling intelligence wrong

[karmic gust]

pob not typo proof, lazy devs

smh

[stray sedge]

Yeah so I wasn't aware they changed ele hit to be melee only, was wondering why tf people kept trying it out

then I saw the alt gem... yikes hahaah

[karmic gust]

yea spectrum is a lot more boring

[stray sedge]

boring? more like weak

the flat values are like 15-20% of the regular gem

but attacks a bit faster I guess...

Are people going to be using the prismatic burst support as well?

[karmic gust]

well it do not blocks elements

so thats why the numbers are lower

[stray sedge]

oooh I see

[karmic gust]

prismatic burst isnt added damage so cant abuse it with breach bloodline right

[stray sedge]

no you're right its a spell

[elfin shale]

Spectrum is all 3 at once yeah

[livid quarry]

what is the hype of new leag? extra lvl 1 support gem is barely borrowed power

mirage is like doing same map twice?

[karmic gust]

atlas rework?

[stray sedge]

he took the bait

[livid quarry]

i dunno. forced to do bad layouts

[karmic gust]

there is apparently keystone

so you can spam same map

[cobalt blade]

its part of the map only the whole map if you have a specific dropped map with an implicit

that makes the mirage full map

[livid quarry]

[karmic gust]

full mirage maps basically t17s smh

[livid quarry]

guess i need to read about the leag

[wicked shore]

Yeah... level 90 pob and I can't seem to optimize it beyond 5mil dps/5k es without dipping into the way-too-many-divine items.

[cobalt blade]

considering thye said that orig and mirage are incompatibile implicits in the q/a with ziz

Its quite possible mirage nightmare maps will be the meta

[karmic gust]

awesome :d

[wicked shore]

Eh, I guess it's a good enough leaguestart plan for before knowing the exceptionals? Anyone else waiting on those?

[buoyant steppe]

who is this

[livid quarry]

ehh too many words

[ionic folio]

Flicker strike in new scion will be godlike

[halcyon prawn]

hillarious

[halcyon prawn]

berserker still better

[buoyant steppe]

why

[halcyon prawn]

-6 weeks

wasted all that time

[tough cove]

wont replace slayer or zerker

[buoyant steppe]

oh i thought you were gonna say because someone is playing ruthless or that ggg is watching them

[warm musk]

How do they know? They can track player activity?

[ionic folio]

Beacon of madness is good tho

[tough cove]

they can see zone activity

and likely see whos opening zones

[buoyant steppe]

they are watching every player

[tough cove]

thats pretty standard antibotting tech stuff there

[sand glen]

they mentioned it earlier. hes 110 hours into the farm for an item he cant obtain

[golden phoenix]

I have a lot of data I can work with, this case was me deciding to compare activity between leagues and noticing that one account was making a lot of instances in ruthless and looking into why.

[simple stag]

Can someone explain the ele hit breachlord thing, will it only choose the converted element?

[cobalt blade]

Inherently ele hit has that damage added to all hits it just only deals the chosen element

[golden phoenix]

I'm waiting for a long script to finish running and had to pass the time somehow, what better way than to look at wacky stats for no particular reason?

[livid quarry]

is this really the borrowed power?

[cobalt blade]

If you make it always choose cold then breachlord convert to cold it deals all that flat as cold

[cobalt blade]

(combat focus to make it only cold)

[gaunt flower]

is there a test league going on?

[sand glen]

yea its called standard

[simple stag]

how does this work with "Deals no Damage of other Damage Types"

[thick goblet]

yeah plus mirage crafting stuff like rerolling cluster enchants, whatever harvest will do, etc

[cobalt blade]

combat focus and its being converted to cold with bloodline

you equip the fire and lightning ones

[livid quarry]

cluster enchants

[simple stag]

ahhh

now i see thx

seems like a bit of investment but the synergy's there

[cobalt blade]

kinda nuts potential yea

[final owl]

ele hit looks like fun unicorn vomit but i still can't decide if i want the QoL of KF instead.

[rich widget]

is the the hallowed monarch better the wraithlord for a pure specter build?

[nimble cedar]

i remember this was 100% on stream before

[cobalt blade]

no

+4 spectres and flat is better than hh buffs

[tough cove]

it was, they nerfed it to 75%

[hard cliff]

Is absolution guardian bait ?

It's got a Doriyani + Ultimatum bloodline rich people endgame but I dunno if it's uber viable

[tough cove]

outside of niche builds, reliquarian seems pretty meh

[livid quarry]

ele hit going to get nerfed before start makes no sense for every1 to play the same skill

[rich widget]

fr? what if its like legion farming?

[nimble cedar]

widowhail is heist bow right?

[cobalt blade]

still better

[sage falcon]

widowhail is global drop

[nimble cedar]

i mean its used on heist build

[rich widget]

dam ok noted yo

[cobalt blade]

they said itll stay in the ziz q/a but get nerfednext league

[final owl]

they've already said it won't be nerfed for 3.28 and expect to nerf it in 3.29

[sand glen]

i think in the ziz interview they mentioned they wont change the interaction till 3.29

[livid quarry]

jeez

why