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[dim gyro]

i mean rog was never used for weaps/quivers. he's pretty bad for those

[fossil mural]

Yes, grok

[opaque sphinx]

no some nerd on reddit tested a bunch of shit with triggerbots

[fossil mural]

(It was ai)

[crisp obsidian]

Ahhh

Looked like ai

[uneven gust]

[opaque sphinx]

and that nerd was jousis

[nimble hawk]

does anyone have the invite link to global 6666 discord server/ summoners discord?

[uneven gust]

That's ghazzy lol

[opal ingot]

holy

flashbang

[edgy acorn]

Hmm

[opal ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[nimble hawk]

isnt there a separate discord?

[uneven gust]

May i dm it is ghazzys

[edgy acorn]

K

[uneven gust]

Oh idk then

[dim gyro]

im in this one. idk how many there are

[opaque sphinx]

[uneven gust]

"Oh hideo grab yourselves a

AHHH OF GOOD IT BURNS!`

[nimble hawk]

yeah i think thats the one

[fossil mural]

New meta

[opaque sphinx]

new leaguestarter CoD sab

[edgy acorn]

We can netflix and ultimatum anymore right?

[eternal hill]

Discharge time

[opaque sphinx]

[dim gyro]

i havent played summoner in years ever since i rage quit summons after spectres was nerfed like 3 years in a row

[eternal hill]

https://tenor.com/view/summit-smash-smash-summit-summit1g-mad-gif-15994846

[edgy acorn]

Its your league, LOGIN

[edgy acorn]

W Summit

[dim gyro]

still bad

[nimble hawk]

it aint that bad last league for me atleast

[royal storm]

Are we close to having Shrinexodia?

The Gull
Blunderbore
Golden Charlatan
Screams of the Desiccated

[opaque sphinx]

think im just playing this againe fk it https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mercenaries/character/LocoCocoa-1921/SecretOftheCatsIsMine?i=1&search=skills%3DSoulrend%2Bof%2Bthe%2BSpiral%26class%3DSaboteur

[edgy acorn]

Yeah on elementalist with herald stacking

[royal storm]

Ele?

[edgy acorn]

We can play etheral knives on it

[royal storm]

Also... wonder if Divine Shrine can roll as a defensive shrine buff on the belt

[opaque sphinx]

definitely not

[edgy acorn]

No shot

[royal storm]

Could you imagine though

🤣

[opaque sphinx]

yeh we had immortality before and ggg swiftly nuked it

[cobalt blade]

they would have to be on some drugs that i would like to yoink if they print that

[edgy acorn]

Can we have Echoing shrine thoufgh?

[cobalt blade]

that would be some good shit

[opaque sphinx]

the only time i saw an actual nerf DURING a league and not after, for power instead of performance reasons, was strength of blood immortality during crucible

[cobalt blade]

there was also saqawal build getting nerfed mid league

i think also in crucible actually

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but that was for performance reasons and not power

[cobalt blade]

true

[opaque sphinx]

cuz it killed crucible

i mean the servers

[cobalt blade]

and ofc theres the iconic purposeful harbinger one mid league

[onyx adder]

were u not around for harold

[dim gyro]

remember when assassins could scale poisons to infinite duration?

[opaque sphinx]

i was not

[onyx adder]

ic

[opaque sphinx]

i started playing in expedition

[cobalt blade]

(i didn't play at the time but god that thing seems nasty with what used to scale with aura effect)

[dim gyro]

lmao. the league where we found out they coded everything as aura buff

[cobalt blade]

they should do a legacy league where they introduce full power purposeful including everything scaling with aura effect

[royal storm]

I wonder what combinations would be good for the belt a bit less obvious way like obviously Diamond Shrine / Acceleration Shrine are crazy

[opaque sphinx]

thats called standard

[cobalt blade]

Its capped in standard

You just get a few hundred mil armour because funny chest

[opaque sphinx]

ish, we have more shit now so u can make it stronger than it ever was during the league

[cobalt blade]

eeh

[crisp obsidian]

Nah, it used to scale stuff like tailwind from certain sources iirc

[opaque sphinx]

i get that

im also saying there's been like 15 leagues of powercreep u can add in to it

[cobalt blade]

all of which is worse than a billion aura effect and alt qual auras+ higher power auras

The only reason its better is bugged chest lol

so its worse for anything not armour stacker

[opaque sphinx]

idk there's prob ways to make it function better than it did even without the million aura eff

[crisp obsidian]

Alt quals didn't exist during harold times

[dim gyro]

mantra of flames was giving ppl like so much damage it wasnt even funny

[edgy acorn]

Have you guys decided on a league starter yet?

[cobalt blade]

oh thought i heard there was a league w/ overlap

But fair enough

[opaque sphinx]

nah

[crisp obsidian]

Naww there is and probs never will be anything as strong as harold

[opaque sphinx]

idk man

[crisp obsidian]

Nah it was midleague nerfed

[cobalt blade]

Something inquis

[royal storm]

Conversion Trap

[cobalt blade]

ye fair

[opaque sphinx]

what was the actual dps u could get on harold

[cobalt blade]

atleast 7

[hexed mountain]

8

[crisp obsidian]

Somewhere between 6-7

[opaque sphinx]

cuz we have builds thati go past 7bil

[onyx adder]

this is probably terrible to play and its probably built wrong because i refuse to spend more than 20 minutes on a leaguestart pob before gems but this change to lycia is pretty good for leaguestart damage

https://pobb.in/vexHtenhGQIl

[crisp obsidian]

It went past 1bil when 50-100mil was actually impressive iirc

[edgy acorn]

Nice, inquis feels good in end game aswell

[opaque sphinx]

thats my point tho now we have powercreep and 1 bil isnt even near the cap

[hexed mountain]

the change to lycia makes it actually quite easy to full convert with a foulborn dream jewel

[crisp obsidian]

What was changed on lycia

[onyx adder]

triple herald elementalist is good for like two skills but its really good for those

[hexed mountain]

its nice

[hexed mountain]

50 to 67 conversion

[onyx adder]

it converts more now

[royal storm]

tbf... isn't a lot of the new stuff kinda geared towards Templar?

[crisp obsidian]

Oh right

Yeah

I forgor

[cobalt blade]

didnt account for losing golem buff effect D:

[onyx adder]

oh ye

thats like 10 dps so whatever

[hexed mountain]

i'm considering doing stormburst with full chaos conversion

[onyx adder]

let me

[cobalt blade]

with few exceptions like accuracy stacker they tend to not be immortal builds

[opaque sphinx]

catmines

[onyx adder]

https://pobb.in/IfkMq-a-Su44 there u are

[edgy acorn]

I can tell what an end game build have. Shrine belt with the bloodline ascendancy that gives an extra ring slot for no flask charges

[royal storm]

Also, maybe I'm just not considering how strong it could be for certain supports on certain skills... but would a bonus level 1 support really be that valuable over say... level 21 and/or 23% qual for that skill gem?

[opaque sphinx]

most are wym

[onyx adder]

the real secret is that the nerf was to stone golem

XDD

[opaque sphinx]

we have builds every league that reach near immortality and 1b+ dps

[onyx adder]

oh oops it uncapped my chaos res

https://pobb.in/xt5P_iBlE_jd

just dont let the golems die copium

[opaque sphinx]

before accu stacker there was MFA and other shit

[onyx adder]

surely

[opaque sphinx]

hell reverse snapshot BV was immortal and did over 10b

[onyx adder]

anyway elementalist still strong, ppl complaining are braindead, etc etc etc

[royal storm]

Has there been anything on what Suspend in Time does on that unique scepter?

[cobalt blade]

very rarely true immortal builds just insanely tanky admittedly part of that is the overall higher damage output in the game though

[onyx adder]

i wish bv didnt have so many problems to solve

id totally play it league start

[cobalt blade]

but if we had old herald stacker stuff it would 100% be the strongest build lol

[onyx adder]

its just cancerous to solve duration, aoe, explodies, and then all the other things real builds need to worry about like damage and defenses

[opaque sphinx]

idk there's also tons and tons of shit in std that'd overpower harold i think

[cobalt blade]

Like if you take EE glad in current league its immortal but doesnt deal good damage

[opaque sphinx]

crucible mods alone take builds 10 levels higher and that wasn't around for harold

[cobalt blade]

Well no you just take bugged chest and herald is the best there

[hexed mountain]

unnerfed penance brand (from its release league after the bugfix) was probably the strongest shit compared to the league it was in

[cobalt blade]

since yknow determ and grace are auras

[onyx adder]

i dont think anything beats OG harold tbh

in terms of build power that the playerbase actually figured out during the league and became a real build

[opaque sphinx]

i mean sure but thats a lot of qualifiers

[onyx adder]

u were doing 10 figure dps and could afk in sirus storms

[opaque sphinx]

armourstack does that tho

[crisp obsidian]

But also relative power is more important imo

[opaque sphinx]

and more dps

[cobalt blade]

and those sirus storms damage scaled with aura effect if I remember the cursed stuff

[onyx adder]

when every other build was like

yo dudes 5 million dps this is nice

[opaque sphinx]

i get in relation to the league its in, but im not talking about that

[onyx adder]

and ehp whats ehp thats not built into pob

[hexed mountain]

in terms of setup i agree

[opaque sphinx]

i just mean overall

[hexed mountain]

when i talked about penance i mean as a standalone skill

[crisp obsidian]

Harold was way way stronger compared to any other build at that time, while currently there are multiple stackere that are strong

But none take such a clear #1 spot

As harold did

[opaque sphinx]

i get that and i dont argue that

[cobalt blade]

its so generically good i do fully think og herald would be stronger than anything currently if it came back

especially since we have hive ring now

[onyx adder]

yea its impossible to compare

[crisp obsidian]

Oh if og harold came back it would 100% be the #1 build

[lilac fern]

yo bros check out "Crystalfall" free demo. they have a skill tree like POE

[onyx adder]

because all of the same scalars that made harold good would be used on other existing stackers

[cobalt blade]

+1 herald is like an extra 100+% aura effect

[onyx adder]

like armourstacker is the OG herald build

[opaque sphinx]

im just trying to compare in a vaccuum the actual power of the builds

not in relation to league

[crisp obsidian]

But the game has like 10x'd the average dps between deli and now

[hexed mountain]

there was no valdo at the time tho , so it was much easier to outgear all content

[crisp obsidian]

And highend too

[cobalt blade]

alot of that 10x to damage would apply to a modern herald setup

[opaque sphinx]

thats what im saying

[onyx adder]

yea it would

[opaque sphinx]

this is also what im saying and how this convo started

[hexed mountain]

meanwhile at the start 7000 dps ethereal knives was clearing endgame

7000 dps EK struggles in campain now

[onyx adder]

anyway this hypothetical is boring and wont teach us anything we should talk about more interesting hypotheticals

[onyx adder]

like when kira is going to post up his next build so i can make fun of it

[opaque sphinx]

bro i gave up looking at patch notes and im just playing catmines again

[onyx adder]

that build is shit

[opaque sphinx]

nothing is interesting maybe im broken

[cobalt blade]

That sentence reads as with current stuff you can make it stronger not with unnerfing it

lol

[opaque sphinx]

yes thats how i meant it

[onyx adder]

i swear its actually bugged or something its the most unpleasant build

[opaque sphinx]

with current stuff u can make a version stronger than the old version

[crisp obsidian]

Oh you can't play harold anymore

[cobalt blade]

Nah

[onyx adder]

and i just posted explosive trap poison i know all about unpleasant

[cobalt blade]

purposeful is capped at 40% aura effect

[opaque sphinx]

i had fun playing it and did 40 40 with it

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mercenaries/character/LocoCocoa-1921/SecretOftheCatsIsMine?i=1&search=skills%3DSoulrend%2Bof%2Bthe%2BSpiral%26class%3DSaboteur

[onyx adder]

40/40 in sctrade isnt a thing these days cmon man

[opaque sphinx]

it was jank

[cobalt blade]

so 2 purposefuls 3 heralds or w/e and its already capped out

[onyx adder]

ah thanks

this is more itneresting

[crisp obsidian]

merc leag

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i didnt mean 40/40 was anything impressive i just meant i actually enjoyed the build enough to complete challs on it

[onyx adder]

yea ok fair enough ur allowed to enjoy things

some ppl enjoy eviscerate even

or so i heard

[cobalt blade]

holy non doryanis abuse merc character

needle in a haystack right there

[opaque sphinx]

it played honestly prety much just like spark

[onyx adder]

now that is some weapons grade copium

i love u

[cobalt blade]

bro has not played a minmaxed sparker

Spiral feels very different to it lol

[opaque sphinx]

when u cast with autodetonate it blows up at ur feet and goes everywhere with 9 proj

and returns

[leaden quiver]

What are we discussing

[opaque sphinx]

screenwide clear like spark, 400 cats

[leaden quiver]

Where can I laugh

[dim gyro]

how op is fusillade? keep hearing ppl say its op

[leaden quiver]

Whats wrong with spiral huh

[stray sedge]

Are slams "massively nerfed" solely because of the nerf to the overexertion support?

[leaden quiver]

Nasty op

If you can pick up reduced duration rings

[cobalt blade]

its good just doesnt play like spark

[leaden quiver]

Its nasty pp

[hexed mountain]

best wand skill , clearly S tier all around

[cobalt blade]

really good skill

[leaden quiver]

Only ES is massively nerfed

Slams will still be fine

[onyx adder]

i hated soulrend miner ngl

[leaden quiver]

They lost what, like 15-20% dps?

[leaden quiver]

Based on the build

[split maple]

Due to reserve changes need to manually click one more warcry

[opaque sphinx]

cats

[stray sedge]

Yeah I was gonna say, I scoured the notes and the gem seems to only be the biggest factor

earthshatter mid

[cobalt blade]

They are still fine and overexertion is still your best support

[leaden quiver]

Play the holy pogger

[tranquil sedge]

i mean you're losing 8% more damage per warcry you used before
and yes you prob reserving one less now

[leaden quiver]

Holy skills are good asf number wise atm

Sweep is badonkers

[stray sedge]

Yeah I think I'm gonna try holy ham

[leaden quiver]

770 damage effectiveness

[opaque sphinx]

it was not fun till i put like 50d into it ngl

[hexed mountain]

if wilma indeed works on holy armaments we might have a hilarious skill too

[opaque sphinx]

before that was kinda suffering

[leaden quiver]

And has shotguns if theres more enemies

[opaque sphinx]

i was on a 4 link using vertex all the way to like t17s

[leaden quiver]

Biden blast shield skill is kinda cool too

Emps vigilance lets you have like 17-19% base crit

Since it has the seething fury mod built in

[hexed mountain]

which one? the exploding holy shield throw?

[leaden quiver]

And the damage is very similar to 2overlap shield crush if you have any reduced duration (i guess the support is needed to be comfy)

Yeah

Divine Blast

[hexed mountain]

we got the numbers on site? or on video?

[leaden quiver]

pathofexile.com/mirage

Shows the gem and footage on the right side

[cobalt blade]

with foulborn vigilance its prob pretty good

[wraith kraken]

Whats a good spamming gem for mage

[leaden quiver]

Looks very good

[cobalt blade]

and you'd still wear seething lol

[opaque sphinx]

how do u know

[cobalt blade]

Free crit multi pog

[leaden quiver]

19% base crit is huge

[wraith kraken]

Or necro

[opaque sphinx]

why is this not in patch notes

[leaden quiver]

Gem on mirage site

[stoic horizon]

depends what type of mage

[leaden quiver]

They release gem info later

[wraith kraken]

Necro

[leaden quiver]

In a couple days

But the 20 gem is there on the site

[wraith kraken]

Necromancy

[onyx adder]

sounds right

i did not put 50d into it

[stoic horizon]

so minions, so if spam then summon raging spirits

[opaque sphinx]

do u have a link to that pls

[cobalt blade]

https://www.pathofexile.com/mirage

[opaque sphinx]

ty

[leaden quiver]

For example, it has half the base flat non scaling

But it hits once for 100%, then another for 200% damage

[stoic horizon]

it might hit more than once with that pre explosion thing

[karmic drift]

I cant remember did they ever hotfix the visuals on thunderstorm? ngl seeing mathil play that looked aweful to me

[stoic horizon]

prob depends on duration

[hexed mountain]

btw someone knows if there is a limit of cursed grounds?

[leaden quiver]

1

[karmic drift]

I think it says on the gem maximum 1 cursed ground, no ?

[wraith kraken]

I have red covennat so like

[leaden quiver]

Says so on the gem

[cobalt blade]

yknow after some thought that skill could be a legit reason to go reliquarian depending on the numbers on the grace nodd

[wraith kraken]

Lookijg for alternative

[hexed mountain]

ah yes

max one area

[cobalt blade]

brass dome for defence grace for offence and take some other shit

[stoic horizon]

its not good

[opal ingot]

no way echoing is gonna roll on the belt

[leaden quiver]

Since you play slayer, you can comfy pick up the reduced duration wheel near scion

[stoic horizon]

yeah

[leaden quiver]

And less dura gem is pretty okay

[wraith kraken]

Oh what

[stoic horizon]

the helmet is bad

[wraith kraken]

Then what's good for raging spirit

[uneven gust]

The belt is 1 offensive 1 defensive shrine

[stoic horizon]

a normal helmet

[leaden quiver]

Also there is no mention of only one holy sperm lingering

Its just a delay between hit and explosion

[cobalt blade]

Actually thats an incredible target for the corrupt support

[hexed mountain]

prospero might be really good if you go shield skill

[cobalt blade]

Its gem level scaling is pretty weak

[cobalt blade]

no

Doesnt scale dmg

[split maple]

Did we actually get it confirmed shrines can be different and no only res+diamond

[leaden quiver]

Im either doing that or domblow leaguestart

[cobalt blade]

its just defence and your chest is probably better

[stoic horizon]

eventually you will craft a helmet with + levels to minions etc but i assume you are still in campaign so take whatever just makes you tankier

[uneven gust]

Any news about nearly headless nick bloodline?

[leaden quiver]

Q and a, yeah, but they said some are taken out

So divine and echoing lol

[hexed mountain]

not for damage

[split maple]

Oh Nice ty

[opaque sphinx]

can holy hammers shotgun or no

whats the gues

[cobalt blade]

idt we know

[cobalt blade]

ye but its defence is mid compared to a big chest imo

maybe early you can take it

[hexed mountain]

hear me out : prospero with 2500 armour shield (emperor's vigilance obviously)... and an evasion chest... to do perseverance scaling

[leaden quiver]

Maybe you can check the footage

There is some on the stream

U can defo hit wih the slam + holy hammer itself so the damage looks pretty nice

[hexed mountain]

could get like 6K base evasion on armour and 5K base armour on shield

or even go necrotic

[leaden quiver]

Pointless when foulborn emps vigilance

Is in the game

[opaque sphinx]

it looks like it does

[cobalt blade]

alternatively just wear a hybrid arm ev base with 3k of both or whatever it is

[leaden quiver]

It outclasses everything

Just wear emps vigilance there is no other option

[hexed mountain]

... i said emperor's vigilance

[cobalt blade]

and take a better ascendancy point

[leaden quiver]

.

[opaque sphinx]

it definitely shotguns

[opaque sphinx]

on the footage from the mirage site u can see the mobs react multiple times

to being hit

[cobalt blade]

its just not worth 2 ascend points for that

[onyx adder]

yer

[cobalt blade]

a bloodline would be stronger or any other node

[onyx adder]

of the asc points that i saw

[cobalt blade]

Or+1 passive point

[leaden quiver]

U are already locked into playing slayer

[onyx adder]

the only actually genuinely exciting one was widowhail

[opaque sphinx]

divine blast looks ok but idt the clear good enough

[leaden quiver]

Because varunastra + gladiator forbiddens are unbeatable lol

[cobalt blade]

I don't see why?

[onyx adder]

and that is getting changed apparently

so

reliquarian does not currently fill me with hope

[leaden quiver]

You get instant leech, crit, more aoe

[onyx adder]

theres a bunch of dogwater + some vaguely mid shit like victarios

[opaque sphinx]

yeh and all u have to do is use a shitty sword

[hexed mountain]

its good on pyroclast mines

[leaden quiver]

What glad forbiddens give u

[cobalt blade]

you shouldn't need crit andi think reliquarian had grace of the goddess for possible bunch of phys as extra

[leaden quiver]

20% more Area of Effect while wielding a Mace or Sceptre
30% more Damage with Hits and Ailments against Enemies that are on Low Life while you are wielding an Axe
25% more Accuracy Rating while wielding a Sword
20% of Leech is Instant while wielding a Claw
20% more Critical Strike Chance while wielding a Dagger

[onyx adder]

even on pyroclast its only okay

[cobalt blade]

yeah i know what weapon master has

[leaden quiver]

But you also get slayer goodies like overleech, impact, masterful form and headsman

[opaque sphinx]

none of those are particularly worth giving ur weapon slot up for

[hexed mountain]

that's nice but goddess as stat stick gives 150+% phys as extra

[cobalt blade]

you can steal slayer from ascendant for overleech

[leaden quiver]

Hmigi

Forgot grace is that good

[cobalt blade]

i do think reliquarian has potential depending on what every node has

[leaden quiver]

Ur right

[opaque sphinx]

yeah goddess or redeemer sceptre beat it hands down

[leaden quiver]

Still slayer

But goddess

[onyx adder]

ascendant overleech is depressing but serviceable

[leaden quiver]

<%>

[cobalt blade]

yeh quite a bit worse than slayer

but about as good as trickster overleech with ghost

[opal ingot]

lol

[cobalt blade]

albiet lower pool

[leaden quiver]

Ghost reaver doesnt affect leech duration does it

Thats why they put that mod on essentia

[onyx adder]

well it would be as good as trickster overleech with ghost if u could run around with 30k life

[hexed mountain]

its sad tinctures dont work on shield skills , warden would cap crit on its own

maybe even marylen

[cobalt blade]

it increases your per second recovery

[onyx adder]

no matter what u say kharjou im not clicking warden

ascendancy is ass

[cobalt blade]

so doubling the total amount of recovery peer leech instance instead of dura

[leaden quiver]

Extremely incorrect buzzer

[stoic horizon]

it doubles max recovery pushing it to same base stats as life leech, and essentia buffs max leech per instance not duration which should buff insta leech

[hexed mountain]

you just need to believe

[opaque sphinx]

its pretty easy to cap crit with sos sceptre and brittle

[leaden quiver]

Warden > deadeye

[hexed mountain]

warden is a banger ascendancy with omega damage

[hoary scarab]

warden > bathfinder

[leaden quiver]

Max leech per instance makes the duration longer

Doesnt it

[onyx adder]

deadeye is better at doing the things that u want deadeye to do

[remote sparrow]

Does any1 know what happens if your damage is both lucky and unlucky at same time?

[hexed mountain]

(and GGG buffed the one node you can't pick anyway)

[cobalt blade]

essentia wording is duration one

ghost reaver wording is per leech instance

[leaden quiver]

Anyway warden is good because tinctures are permanent on it

[onyx adder]

warden is a pile of damage in a place where u never need damage

[leaden quiver]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opaque sphinx]

i think thats genuinely the worst take i have ever seen on this discord even if its a joke

[hexed mountain]

warden has better damage than deadeye even if he puts GMP and chain in main links

[cobalt blade]

The only thing wardens good for is forbidden jewels

[opaque sphinx]

pathfinder is one of the best classes there is

[hexed mountain]

tinctures are that good

[leaden quiver]

Man/woman who has never played warden

[hexed mountain]

also oath is crazy

[leaden quiver]

2 tinctures are insane

And then oath of summer

Xd

2 permanent tinctures*

[hexed mountain]

spring with replica heatshiver is the most hilarious stuff

[cobalt blade]

woman and i prefer characters that can use full mageblood power

[leaden quiver]

Warden makes you ignore the cooldown completely with that cdr notable

[hexed mountain]

mageblood is so 3.27

[cobalt blade]

But honestly might try her with shrine belt

[leaden quiver]

Thats why ull never enjoy nameless king +1 ring

Bing bong

[stoic horizon]

go read the item and keystone again, reaver says max total leech is doubled and essentia says max leech per instance

[cobalt blade]

Read the leech wiki

[leaden quiver]

Ghost reaver increases per sec from 10 to 20

[opaque sphinx]

know what else makes u ignore every single downside of tinctures?

0.4% of dmg leeched as mana

[leaden quiver]

Essentia increases leech per instance so from 5s its 10s on default stats

With no other mods

Or 2.5 to 5s im confused now and cant check it quickly

[stoic horizon]

from 5% to 10% max es cap

[cobalt blade]

yes by doubling your leech instances

not your duration of leeches

[leaden quiver]

Yeah and whats the limit per leech instance per second

[opaque sphinx]

single cheap notable over here being like "damn bro im a whole ascendancy"

[leaden quiver]

Divine blast grace of the goddess dang

Is it still 2%?

Or have they increased the drop

[cobalt blade]

Higher now i think

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/flex-tape-gif-10921536

[split maple]

10%

[stoic horizon]

pov recovery fixed

[gentle chasm]

man i cant find a sab build to steal ideas from

[leaden quiver]

13%

[gentle chasm]

[leaden quiver]

Thats common asf

[leaden quiver]

What u want

[gentle chasm]

im probably going to coc the new shock nova with astral projector

[leaden quiver]

Kinetic rain coc

[stoic horizon]

[hexed mountain]

khatal geyser and runegraft of quaffing looks kinda fun to play too

[leaden quiver]

Havent tested it, but someone on poebuilds shilled for it

[hexed mountain]

getting giga life and mana regen

[leaden quiver]

That its better than lancing

With the anomalies lingering

[gentle chasm]

probably going to arcanist brand it till maps

[hexed mountain]

on sabo it should be

since it would make double anomalies

[gentle chasm]

[leaden quiver]

U can test it now to see how it feels

[stoic horizon]

thats fixed btw

[leaden quiver]

But wands are also better to like, generate power charges etc

What

When

[stoic horizon]

the anomalies dont bug trigger anymore

in patch notes

[leaden quiver]

Cant see that in 3.28

[onyx adder]

💀

[leaden quiver]

Some 3.27 patch?

[stoic horizon]

no its in 3.28

[cobalt blade]

i so wish tinctures worked with shield

[stoic horizon]

even one of first bug fixes on the list iirc

[cobalt blade]

would make divine blast alot more considerable

[hexed mountain]

divine blast warden with goddess main hand would go hard if it did

[limpid prairie]

Play blade blast of unloading not terrible

[leaden quiver]

Fixed a bug where Triggered skills such as Kinetic Flux (from Kinetic Instability Support) were able to cause Poets Pen to trigger socketed spells.

Interesante crocofante

[stoic horizon]

ah wait its only for poets

weirdge

[cobalt blade]

Yaaa

[gentle chasm]

yea no idea how this is leveled

[cobalt blade]

generic caster levelling with magma?

[leaden quiver]

Bombardillo crocodillo

[cobalt blade]

Or absolution since it looks broken now

[leaden quiver]

Ill test it when I get home

[leaden quiver]

Absolution isnt broken

The minions only got their big cast upgraded, that has a 6sec cd

Not the default casts

Iirc?

[cobalt blade]

wdym it was already a good starter and they gave it more damage

[leaden quiver]

Vaal absolution is still huge

Oh yeah I agree its strong and underappreciated

[cobalt blade]

Absolution and Absolution of Inspiring: Now have a base debuff duration of 3 seconds (previously 1), and a base Minion duration of 15 seconds (previously 10). Sentinels of Absolution now have 44% more Area of Effect with their Empowered Lightning Blast Skill, and it now deals 40% more Damage

[hexed mountain]

vaal caress for cheap and +2 corrupt it

[cobalt blade]

40% more fucking dmg

[hexed mountain]

+7 vaal absolution 5L

[leaden quiver]

Empowered

6sec cd

[cobalt blade]

don't they use that somewhat regularly

[dreamy crane]

are league starters expected to be able to do ubers?

[cobalt blade]

Fair

[hexed mountain]

guardian has hilarious leveling now though

[gentle chasm]

not really

[hexed mountain]

even better than before

[limpid prairie]

If you league start it you could carry 2 copies of absolution for the Vaal in acts

[gentle chasm]

some might

[leaden quiver]

At 20 qual + mastery its like

[cobalt blade]

If your goal is day 2 ubers yes for most ppl no

[leaden quiver]

4sec cd

Iirc

[cobalt blade]

nb

[leaden quiver]

Vaal absolution is huge though

[tranquil sedge]

you can probably scale most of them to do ubers, if thats what you mean.

[leaden quiver]

Yeah

Just onetap everything

[gentle chasm]

theyre expected to get you to t16 and some void stones

[dreamy crane]

i have a build i want to do but it only have 700k uber dps

[onyx adder]

generally uber capable isnt a priority for league starters

[dreamy crane]

2 mil normal

[hexed mountain]

my only issue on vaal absolution is i have NO IDEA how much damage it does because of all the weird shotgun and 0 visual clarity on how many hits

[stoic horizon]

there are starters that can do ubers but they dont protect from skill issue

[hexed mountain]

i just know it kills

[onyx adder]

but if u have 2 m single target ur problem isnt gonna be ubers

[tranquil sedge]

it would help if you linked the build

so ppl can see wat ur talking about

[onyx adder]

its gonna be all the other content u cant do either

[cobalt blade]

if the gears reasonable seems fine as a starter just transition to smth else later

[limpid prairie]

What skill is it?

[steel mural]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lucas-spidy

[dreamy crane]

blade storm bleed glad

[leaden quiver]

10mil is required for nightmare maps id say

[onyx adder]

bladestorm is a pretty clunky skill i wouldnt want to play the game with 2m dps on that

[hexed mountain]

the mods are less cringe than T17 so maybe a bit less

[dreamy crane]

i think it will be tanky

[cobalt blade]

its like 4-5 m since youll spend less time rolling off shit mods id say

[dreamy crane]

max lucky block and es regen

[cobalt blade]

good luck

[leaden quiver]

Its just a worse rage vortex

[cobalt blade]

mechanically clunky skill iirc

[leaden quiver]

No cap

[hexed mountain]

its surprisingly slow AS

[dreamy crane]

damn good luck

[tranquil sedge]

if you just link the build it would be easier than describing every aspect of it lol

[hexed mountain]

yeah just checked 70% as

[dreamy crane]

i think i give up😭

[cobalt blade]

(less likely youll need to run 2 tank mods or w/e)

[limpid prairie]

Don't be like that!! League starting a terrible skill can be fun or you could try to fix the issues it has

[dreamy crane]

i was trying to make a tanky bleed build with the jack the axe since its cheap

[cobalt blade]

it is fun to force questionable skills into doing damage

[tranquil sedge]

since its cheap
okay so do it and then make more money and make the build stronger?

[split maple]

2m with blood sap tincture on or without?

[cobalt blade]

And i think you can just get a better axe gambling in campaign

[tranquil sedge]

i dont get what the point of this conversation is you can play anything you want and then you can just make currency to push it further

[hexed mountain]

just doing eviscerate is probably worlds better if you want to bleed

[dreamy crane]

without tincture

[tranquil sedge]

jack's pretty good tbh for bleed

[split maple]

Then you have what 4m with tincture

If not more

[dreamy crane]

dang really

i didnt know it was that insane

[split maple]

You want incr effect and multi

[cobalt blade]

ig it does have the 20% more with thirst

[tranquil sedge]

if you have a build guide you can literally see that for yourself in the pob or just put a tincture in pob and see

[onyx adder]

this advice is how u get ppl coming back in week 2 going guys i cant kill maven what do i do

[dreamy crane]

i made it myself😅

[livid quarry]

what leag starter is good for expedition

[tranquil sedge]

i think if someone reaches maven writ fight we can fix anything at that point lol

[hexed mountain]

anything that spreads

or explodes

[dreamy crane]

lemme try the tinc

[livid quarry]

ima go warden

[cobalt blade]

a tri ele bow build minimal chance you get bricked by big boom

or tri ele wander

[leaden quiver]

Okay emps vigilance is dirt cheap on leaguestart thats good

[livid quarry]

yeah i thought so

[north cypress]

which farming strats take a nerf this league?

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/wardern-gif-27293031

[livid quarry]

what is that

i aint a teen

[stoic horizon]

warden

[opal ingot]

im about to flicker. how many times will i die

[tranquil sedge]

warden boss/enemy in minecraft

[hexed mountain]

i'd rather dodge chaos immunities than have to try facetanking expedition rares with a wander on leaguestart gear

[livid quarry]

[cobalt blade]

skill issue or smth

[dreamy crane]

dam tincutre is cracked

[livid quarry]

lots cuz u new

[tranquil sedge]

it does give roblox vibes though yea lmao

[cobalt blade]

Just nuke it

[opal ingot]

thanks. though i will assume im a god gamer

[dreamy crane]

i never play bleed i ddint know it was that insane

[livid quarry]

berserk flicker dies more than slayer

[leaden quiver]

People have forgotten about lightstacking

Thats solid damage for leaguestart

[cobalt blade]

wand is t1

[livid quarry]

if u follow magefist more deaths than neccessary

[cobalt blade]

Cant rely on it being cheap at league start

[stoic horizon]

by the time you can get the wand there are better options

[leaden quiver]

It still wasnt expensive last league

With much more attention

[tranquil sedge]

thirst for blood and also has +25-35% dot multi with bleed, its a very nice budget 1h axe

[limpid prairie]

Did light radius stacking hot nerfed?

[dreamy crane]

so is 4 mil with tinc good for dot league start?

[cobalt blade]

Fair enough

[leaden quiver]

Nope

[cobalt blade]

no

[livid quarry]

i think the farrul is so he can claim his build is capable of ubers but flicker isnt a bossing skill

[onyx adder]

well thats good, because god will be taking the wheel and that guy cant fucking drive

[cobalt blade]

It was pricy day 1-3 no?

[livid quarry]

but then again farrul is pretty expensive early on

like several divs

[leaden quiver]

Under 1d

[limpid prairie]

Not bad
Give it a maybe

[cobalt blade]

Seems like a questionable league start

[onyx adder]

its always flicker and cyclone that ppl want to play against all reason on league start i swear

[hexed mountain]

they doubled curr droprate , just loot a few divs

[leaden quiver]

Like 100c per

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/2y1SZcRB7TnT decent gear for a league starter, right?

[gentle chasm]

flicker is fun tho

[cobalt blade]

div are like 50c that early

[leaden quiver]

Was pretty good for like 15mil dps

With Incandescent etc

[onyx adder]

at this point im convinced u could make a skill that lets u attack while moving and ppl would play it even if it did no damage and deleted ur game client every 34 seconds

[leaden quiver]

Based

Cyclone of tumult deals damage but doesnt make u move

And people play it

[cobalt blade]

ma'am you forgot the reflected helicals and simplex or focused D:

[leaden quiver]

[*]

[brazen vector]

I am out of budget rn :s

[cobalt blade]

yeah like day5-week 1 its not bad as a transition for good dam but league start eeh

[tight plinth]

111m determination build, you are truly determined alesia

[cobalt blade]

:c

[gentle chasm]

all that money just to play totems

[dreamy crane]

i think i will do it if i can get it to be tanky

[limpid prairie]

Storm burst totems got QoL or something

[cobalt blade]

Your gonna be playing some scuffed ass shit to get that first 100c

[leaden quiver]

Storm burst totems should be very good now

Unironically

Time to first hit was like, over halved

On hiero

[golden phoenix]

[hexed mountain]

might even feel decent self cast

with the buff

[stoic horizon]

day 1 gear

[hexed mountain]

making it hit instantly

[leaden quiver]

Nah its not that good

Xdd

[crisp obsidian]

nahh, I would add some doublecorruptions

it's not leagstart enough w/o em

[gentle chasm]

this gem has quite the stat requirements damn

[stoic horizon]

just remember

mb is there just for qol

[cobalt blade]

supreme ostentation players gonna be loving that

[gentle chasm]

having flasks up in town is peak qol

[hexed mountain]

need to see what it gives level 5

[crisp obsidian]

I bet someone is gonna make a giga qual build with this

[leaden quiver]

Supreme ostentauon type beat

[cobalt blade]

Thats why you just belt swap mb

[hexed mountain]

with +2

[crisp obsidian]

and I bet it will be op

[limpid prairie]

Damm looks like a nightmare

[brazen vector]

hmm true

[tranquil sedge]

wonder if this means no woke enhance separate gem?

[leaden quiver]

Its going to be expensive on level 4

[tranquil sedge]

can't wait for monday

[leaden quiver]

We still have them

[tranquil sedge]

oh?

[cobalt blade]

also pls bless mageblood

[crisp obsidian]

nah it exists

[leaden quiver]

Those are the only ones left

[crisp obsidian]

so you can go this + woke enhance + woke empower

[leaden quiver]

From old awakeneds

[crisp obsidian]

for the ultragiga levels+qual

and then you run dialla's and ashes

[cobalt blade]

Its absurd how many unblessed ones I've seen lately

[tranquil sedge]

i missed wherever they mentioned that then

[leaden quiver]

Tbh at level 4 it should be what, +18% qual and +2 level?

[brazen vector]

I cant bless it to more than 35?

[leaden quiver]

Worth for many skills

[tranquil sedge]

+16 i imagine

4% per if it starts at level 1

[brazen vector]

oh I miss 11 quality xD

[leaden quiver]

It doesnt start at 1

[tranquil sedge]

or +18 ye if it starts at level 2

[cobalt blade]

Its 38 str on your pob link

[leaden quiver]

Like enhance

[cobalt blade]

Oh qual fair

[leaden quiver]

Prolly

[tranquil sedge]

ty

[cobalt blade]

that would also do it lool

[leaden quiver]

@crisp obsidian sweep, holy strike, dom blow or divine biden blast?

[hexed mountain]

that gem + enhance would enable easier 15 wither withering step i guess

[limpid prairie]

Static strike keeps winning
I'm going to stack so much quality on the static strike you won't believe it

[leaden quiver]

The trans one sounds cool

[crisp obsidian]

sweep(dom blow or holy strike if you want an actual good build)

[brazen vector]

@cobalt bladethere you go x3

[leaden quiver]

Sweep damage looks good af

[cobalt blade]

[leaden quiver]

770 dmg eff

[opal ingot]

Offer 20c

[tranquil sedge]

now lets see the rest of it

[brazen vector]

15/21/4

[crisp obsidian]

sure but the skill is still sweep xdd

[tranquil sedge]

but its holy now so thats +50% cool factor

templar approved (TM)

[crisp obsidian]

so are holy strike and dom blow

[cobalt blade]

isn't templar starting w/ it now

Or was that the other holy skill

[leaden quiver]

Holy strike looks good

[limpid prairie]

Do we consider conscrated path of endurance holy?

[leaden quiver]

The one with minions around you

[leaden quiver]

Yeah, thats why it got buffed

[crisp obsidian]

does the game consider it as holy

is the only question that matters

[cobalt blade]

kinda sad templars losing the ability to freeze cheese hillock if you get rly lucky but probably gonna do better dmg tho

[tranquil sedge]

would you rather:

• (holy) strike your enemies
• (dominating) blow your enemies
• sweep your enemies

[leaden quiver]

Dom blow looks so good... But so does biden blast

Hnnnggg

[crisp obsidian]

blow ofc

[crisp obsidian]

wtf is biden blast

[leaden quiver]

Biden blast

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/video-game-gif-4576512

[leaden quiver]

Shield skill

[livid quarry]

this is cyclone

[leaden quiver]

The exploding yellow sperm

Its damage numbers are omega comfy

[brazen vector]

no, its a fire skill

[leaden quiver]

Shield crush but bigger aoe and ranged

[cobalt blade]

Holy flame totem is fire

[leaden quiver]

Conv to lightning so we can be pogging with inpulsa

:0

[brazen vector]

has holy in the name :>

[cobalt blade]

tru :3

[stoic horizon]

consecrated thou

the word is somewhat related

[brazen vector]

if you made it HOLY consecrated path of endurance, Id count it

[cobalt blade]

templar holy inqus has consecrated ground all consecrated skills holy

[limpid prairie]

It's consecrated isn't that holy enough

[leaden quiver]

Holy flame totem/storm burst totems should be very strong

[brazen vector]

Herald of Purity is holy then too

[leaden quiver]

Hft only for leveling

[stoic horizon]

valid

[cobalt blade]

consecrated ground even creates holes in the floor

[tight plinth]

yes because its pure

[brazen vector]

Righteous FIre is Holy

[cobalt blade]

yes

[stoic horizon]

sure

[brazen vector]

Any purity is Holy?

[stoic horizon]

uh

ig?

[tight plinth]

[cobalt blade]

purity of fire sublime vision is holy

[brazen vector]

Purifying glame!

[limpid prairie]

Divine Ire too
Divine Ire good for anything? That skill looks bad

[stoic horizon]

totems might work idk

[tight plinth]

so is half the skills holy?

[stoic horizon]

but thats giga delayed dmg

[brazen vector]

Spirit offering is also holy

[cobalt blade]

Its good for arakaakis fang to kill worms to start your spiders

[onyx adder]

Its an okay ignite skill since its easy to get EO up and its got good DE

[dense rock]

nah, thats spiritual!

[brazen vector]

same thing?

[tight plinth]

naaaah fam, thats desecration of corpses

[stoic horizon]

always have been 🔫

[tight plinth]

it cant be holy

[onyx adder]

DI totems havent been good in years

[dense rock]

not even remotely

[astral knoll]

I will play Holy hammer 🔨

[limpid prairie]

Spiritual is for next expansion!

[brazen vector]

I can make it the same thing

being Holy is entirely spiritual

BOOM

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Purity_of_Flesh is this holy

[dense rock]

"New way to scale stuff among int,dex and str! Spiritualism!"

[stoic horizon]

if you sacrifice an infant before each map you get +20 to all attributes

[brazen vector]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Gluttony_of_Elements 100% holy as its one of the 7 sins

[stoic horizon]

[dense rock]

nerfed to "sacrifice infant for 8secs of +20 all attributes" within few hotfixes

[cobalt blade]

10% more damage for each different holy skill youve used recently

[dense rock]

gotta count stuff outside of holyism aswell

10% more dmg for every spiritual act you have performed in the last 4 secs

[cobalt blade]

trutru

needs to be different cant go too hard on 1 holy

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/tendernism-tender-meat-gif-11602537457355113071

[cobalt blade]

Or spiritual act

[dense rock]

we gonna get spiritual charges 😮

[hoary scarab]

[limpid prairie]

Include 2 button gameplay and other ethical stuff

[dense rock]

"press X to pray at altar"

[tight plinth]

any of you cooked up something cool i can steal for myself?

[hoary scarab]

pbrand ignite

[north cypress]

any idea how big the mirage zone is? 1/10 or the map, 1/4?

[hoary scarab]

[cobalt blade]

Nah 10 button gameplay the way your intended to play a holy person wouldnt sin

[limpid prairie]

Static strike trust op

[cobalt blade]

required to manual warcry

No flask automation

[dense rock]

2 button build but you get 8 buttons worth of holy instrument you can play while mapping. Playing a certain song gives a certain buff

failing at the notes gives negative buff 😄

[cobalt blade]

legend of zelda completion sound plays

[hoary scarab]

ok so hunting horn

[limpid prairie]

Curse of necrodancer vibes

[dreamy crane]

im so consufed i dont kno what happened but my ehp was very high and now it says inf

why?

[dense rock]

pretty much, just with much less bonk

[dreamy crane]

did i click something wrong?

[limpid prairie]

Block

[dreamy crane]

oh

[cobalt blade]

ignore ehp its just on block recovery

5% life or es on block

your life or es eclipses the default damage numbers pob uses

[dreamy crane]

i have aiegis aurora

[hoary scarab]

ehp is a very usefull stat

[cobalt blade]

yep aegis does it too

[limpid prairie]

You can ask PoB to ignore in configuration now

Iirc

[cobalt blade]

ehp is the most useless stat in pob

[dreamy crane]

i tweaked the build around

[cobalt blade]

ye

[stoic horizon]

dont let jiji see this

[stray sedge]

Man I forgot how good Brutus' Lead Sprinkler can be

[dreamy crane]

im a 2.4 mil no ryslatha no tinc

4.6 with ryslatha and tinc\

[hoary scarab]

wdym how can ehp not be usefull to look at

[dense rock]

do we have a date announced for when we can start POBing the new shit like the scion ascendancy and stuff?

[cobalt blade]

average olroths wardlooper that falls over to a gust of wind

[stoic horizon]

we need to see this stuff first

[cobalt blade]

Monday for scion

was put on reddit somewhere

[limpid prairie]

When they realise the rest of the information and the thankless developers add it

[dreamy crane]

wdym i have inf ehp:)

i cant die

[dense rock]

START SEEING SHIT THEN... My pob senses are tingling... i NEED TO make a meme build...

[hoary scarab]

dies to ground dot

[dreamy crane]

😭

i hope not this shi better be tank

[cobalt blade]

Whats your max hits

[stoic horizon]

3 phys max hit

[dreamy crane]

11k phys and chaos. 32k ele

[hoary scarab]

😂

[cobalt blade]

not very tanky

[split maple]

Yeah when you get unlucky blocking you will get oneshot

[dense rock]

thats tanky to you? 😄

[cobalt blade]

You will get 1 shot when you fail a block lol

[dreamy crane]

but i got the recovery tho🥺

[split maple]

But like rly grimz slap a pob

[cobalt blade]

Recovery doesnt matter if your 1 shot

[limpid prairie]

CI divine flesh moment

[split maple]

Very easy to recover a one shot yea

[stoic horizon]

recovery doesnt prevent onetaps

[cobalt blade]

and your recovery is more valuable the higher your max hit is

[dreamy crane]

you just have to believe🥹

ill link pob

one sec

[hoary scarab]

i wont get oneshot with 99.6% block chance

[dreamy crane]

and i aim basically crit immune🥺🥹

[hoary scarab]

surely

[stoic horizon]

you wont until you will

[dense rock]

gl blocking ground effects 😄

[drowsy eagle]

same block chance when I message my crush

[stoic horizon]

but thats an exception proving the rule trust

[dreamy crane]

https://pobb.in/7uvrmWtujtDr

[hoary scarab]

lalalala cant hear you

[dreamy crane]

the ground is not real twin

[karmic drift]

Gain a Power Charge every Second if you haven't lost Power Charges Recently. Does this mod mean you just always gain power charges as long as they arent spent or stolen ?

[dreamy crane]

who needs feet

[hoary scarab]

just use flying mtx

easy

[dreamy crane]

real

[stoic horizon]

yes

[drowsy eagle]

use your shield like a skateboard

[stoic horizon]

p2w

[dreamy crane]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-gif-12554037691025205909

ill just block the ground

[cobalt blade]

should be spending the 1 point for stun immune since no evasion scaling

unless i missed stun somewhere block and not stun immune feels so ass

[dreamy crane]

oh

tru

[crisp obsidian]

wallet issue if you aren't flying

fix your wallet

[dreamy crane]

your right

will do

[cobalt blade]

But uh otherwise yeah thats not rly tanky no endu charges no max res no suppression

[crisp obsidian]

stun immune is this easy

[dense rock]

Stun immunity at home*

[cobalt blade]

alot worse than stun immunity

[dreamy crane]

i have the endurance charges on block and kill

[gentle chasm]

what do coc bozos level with

[dreamy crane]

and 5 percent cold max res

🙊

[crisp obsidian]

whatever is the meta leveling skill

it's so easy to switch passives nowadays

with faustus

[drowsy eagle]

holy leveling

[cobalt blade]

fair

[cobalt blade]

magma

since starting coc is usually templar

[dreamy crane]

and i didnt put in molten shell

maybe that will help

[tight plinth]

start with guardian and take goku first ascendancy, easy campaign

[split maple]

Remove Life from body armor and slap in 15% Life mastery at least

[cobalt blade]

Tru thats legit as hell with that being permanent

[split maple]

Idk why no rare rings there

And ryslatha coil if unique belt

[dreamy crane]

the veno puncutre rings are good for my dmg

[cobalt blade]

Intimidate btw doesnt apply to bleed

[split maple]

You don't have any dmg

Issue is you also don't have life

[livid quarry]

when we getting 3.28 pob

[dreamy crane]

i have 2k es and 3k life😅

[cobalt blade]

so your current belt is kinda bad

its just giving reduced crit

[dreamy crane]

the deciever was just a place holder until i get ryslatha

[cobalt blade]

fair

[split maple]

Imo drop ES

[hoary scarab]

its giving gucci

[split maple]

And go for Life on block shield

[tight plinth]

mathil likes wearing this mage hat mtx, anyone know whats the name of it?

[cobalt blade]

^surrender if you want a basic one

[dreamy crane]

why tho i have good es and life recovery

[cobalt blade]

more life and chaos bypasses es

replace es investment with extra bits of life

your now tankier vs chaos

[dreamy crane]

i get the crit immunity too with the armour es nodes

[split maple]

5k Life feels way better than 3k Life + 2k es

[split maple]

You gonna do a whole lot of dying to noncrits with your current Max hits

[cobalt blade]

crit btw is only important if your constantly rolling it on map mods or running very specific content where that 1 shot can lose your char

just having 30-40% crit reduction is fine for most things

[uneven gust]

Main kill sources are
Phys and chaos max hit
Degen effects
shock(decreases ehp by 60% to crits 20% to noncrits)
Brick map mods (-allres/maxres, curses etc)
Shifting damage helps (shifted damage as no longer applies peirce of that element)

[split maple]

Any reason why don't you dig some old lacerate bleed glad pob and adapt it to bladestorm

Iirc there was gazilion guides for that

[dreamy crane]

i was just doing my own thing

trying to make my own build work

see wherer i can go

[hexed mountain]

why even adapt to bladestorm

[dreamy crane]

i get what your saying with the life thing

[hexed mountain]

lacerate is straight better

evisc too

[uneven gust]

Just mentioning the advanced layers of what's killing you what to work on next

[tight plinth]

evis is op

2c weapon? no problem, a few million dps

doesnt even need accuracy

[dreamy crane]

with molten shell it has 18k chaos max hit

and i have the guard skill recovery wheel

what is a desirable max hit?

[cobalt blade]

I like being around the 15k phys max hit and 60-80k ele mark on league starters for day 3-4 gear

chaos usually fine if your just positive res

[dreamy crane]

i didnt have flask on

with slak it is 18k armour

[idle bolt]

im planning on playing KBoC this leaguestart but im not sure if Nercro or Heiro looks better

[dreamy crane]

23k chaos

[stoic horizon]

you just need to ignore the best survivability tool

dont get hit

[dreamy crane]

flask*

[stoic horizon]

[dreamy crane]

and that would be considered a squishy build?

or average?

[cobalt blade]

tanky for alch n go mapping squishy vs hard content

[upper knot]

Great i have to find a way to make a new player an aurabotter/support type ccharaccter because i showed them the reveal and they liked the idea of hallowed ground where they were everyone elses statstick.
The meta is still to use a gguardian for that right?

[cobalt blade]

minmaxed i like being in the 500k max hit range for ele

[dreamy crane]

bru

thats insane

[cobalt blade]

60-80k max hit is fine for 90+% of content though especially with t17's gone

[dreamy crane]

i think everybuild ive every played would be considered insanely squishy

ive never done a insanely difficult farm tbh

so maybe thats why it didnt bother me much

[opal ingot]

i find that with 100k ele max hit, youre already super duper tanky for majority of the content in the game

assuming you have good layers of recovery to go with it and mitigation too

[cobalt blade]

Ye

500k max hit is entering possessed feared valdos range

most other content just doesnt touch you

[dreamy crane]

hm

[opal ingot]

iirc back then when t17s were a thing, 20k phys max hit was a good thing to have, but some have said that kinda phys max hit is kind of overrated when you're clearing the screen anyway as majority of the damage you take will be ele

[dreamy crane]

so how tanky is a rf build?

wat kind of max hit are they usually rocking?

[cobalt blade]

pretty tanky if your on chieftain 90 max res setups

Usually in the 100k range pretty fast

[dreamy crane]

wow

[cobalt blade]

(somewhat conditionally to enemies being within your flesh n stone or w/e else but your rf lol)

[dreamy crane]

i dont think i understood what tanky really is lol

im used to lightning strike trickster type shi

and thatr was squishy to me

[cobalt blade]

ee or eblade