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[fossil mural]

Surely works

[hexed mountain]

i' guess flicker is kiloava+terminus est + soul tether

decently tanky

unless you dex stack or something with claws

[tight iris]

Any buffs

[bleak umbra]

Cyclone and Tornado Shot used to have pretty big cult followings

Back in the day

[last mesa]

lmao what

[fossil mural]

5% chance to get frenzy on crit

[hexed mountain]

lots of people want to play cyclone still its just bad

[cobalt blade]

will say im not sure how youd even go about league starting armstacker based on these changes doesn't seem like it got anything insane

[fallow fern]

so u can just have 350% more quiver boost

isnt that a bit silly

[last mesa]

isn't it 20:8 from kirac

[fossil mural]

Can you get that to 400

For 5 arrows

[cobalt blade]

like the +2 auras reliquarian is probably worse than playing champ setup?

[surreal musk]

is going from 250>350 worth an ascendancy though

[cobalt blade]

No its gone

[undone gazelle]

no they removed widowhail

[cobalt blade]

confirmed removed for smth else

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[frigid wedge]

i mean itd be the same process but im just gonna edge wojtu and make him think im starting a normal leaguestarter la build and then go get 10.10 aps

[fallow fern]

theres no way they removed it

[cobalt blade]

[fossil mural]

Why? They hate fun

[frigid wedge]

and im sure ur familiar with why that specific aps

[cobalt blade]

Yeh it just didnt rly get anything from what i could tell to make it easier to start

Ye triggers

love server frame nonsense

[frigid wedge]

fuck

[fossil mural]

Embed failure

[cobalt blade]

lol

[fossil mural]

Laugh

[frigid wedge]

my gif no

[zenith citrus]

Wait widowhail has been removed from game?

[cobalt blade]

perms still not fixed no reacts/gifs

[frigid wedge]

reliquary node

[cobalt blade]

no its just not on reliquarian

[hexed mountain]

wait mystic refractor + astral proj is really nice for pyroclast

[frigid wedge]

can you guess the purpose :3

[cobalt blade]

they initially showcased it with that then decided to remove

[bleak umbra]

Do people still play EDC?

[cobalt blade]

lightning warp or?

[frigid wedge]

mmh

[hexed mountain]

no

[cobalt blade]

:3

makes sense

[frigid wedge]

nyoom time

[hexed mountain]

damage values are just too low

[onyx adder]

It is right, it just doesnt do what it was showcased to do

[frigid wedge]

idk how i fit that much aps other than frenzy stacking tho, and i wanna go phys bow tshot

[bleak umbra]

Rip

Bane now?

[onyx adder]

Wasnt that the post

[cobalt blade]

no they said replacing it

[fossil mural]

Wtf will it do then?

[cobalt blade]

I will go drag it up

[hexed mountain]

if the burden of shadows node is good it might just be a rathpith league again

[onyx adder]

I thought they replace howlcrack and change text on widowhail no

[hexed mountain]

like being able to use burden of shadow + rathpith is peak gaming

[cobalt blade]

Oh it was just howlcrack they said replaced i guess maybe they nerf it to 50% widow

[fossil mural]

And then you go the buffed ritual bloodline

[cobalt blade]

but literally they can only do quiver effect so it makes no sense to nerf it below 100%

and i dont see them buffing it

so feels like theyll change it

[onyx adder]

Ok but maybe

[fossil mural]

40% of life as chaos flat

Surely

[cobalt blade]

500 quiver effect

[onyx adder]

All im sayin is i got the poison spark pobs loading

[crisp obsidian]

Wait where are you guys seeing widowhail nerfs

[hexed mountain]

there's a world where kinetic fusillade is decent on antiquarian too with mystic refractor + warped timepiece depending on how it works and the stats

[onyx adder]

New scion ascendancy has widowhail on it

Gotta keep up

[cobalt blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rfowc6/comment/o7lwzkb/

specifically on reliq

[crisp obsidian]

Yeah but those nodes aren't the same as the uniques

The numerical values are different

[onyx adder]

Excellently pointed out

We would never have noticed

[cobalt blade]

yes and we are talking about that node

[cobalt blade]

^

[crisp obsidian]

Ah thank you

[zenith citrus]

What value is the minimum for that node be for you to use it

[crisp obsidian]

Tracker didn't show

[cobalt blade]

100%

50% and its just worse than taking a passive point

[hexed mountain]

depending on mods cadigan authority looks super strong too

[visual stream]

hah templar now start with holy strike that something igs

[zenith citrus]

Holy strike looks giga bait

[fossil mural]

Its also feast not thirst

[fossil mural]

Absolutely

Unless the support with the new debuffs

[visual stream]

have to see its number to actually know tho

[fossil mural]

Is op

[visual stream]

but its seem will be like living ligntning stuff imo

[stoic horizon]

its 25% phys as extra fire

[cobalt blade]

yeah i think they corrected that in the comments

[hexed mountain]

we need the data on hallowed flame really , if its high damage cyclone with hallowed flame could be good

[fossil mural]

Yea but maybe you can buff it

Guardian has something for it for example

[stoic horizon]

+1 to max stacks yes

[hexed mountain]

do we know base max stack?

[onyx adder]

Appears to be 1

[fossil mural]

Tf is hallowed flame

[hexed mountain]

that would be a bit silly , giving ONE ascendancy double hallowed flame

[onyx adder]

I dont see any reason why it wouldnt be 1, from all the wording

Shrug

[stoic horizon]

the thing we just talked about

[fossil mural]

Maybe a new unique

[hexed mountain]

also on the screen we could see a little orb representing the hallowed flame on the mob

why put orbs if its max 1

[fossil mural]

Oh yea there is another new debuff right?

[stoic horizon]

not sure

[fossil mural]

At least ive never seen it before

[stoic horizon]

also there is that you crit = more minion crit support

[fossil mural]

Maybe if numbers are good

[hexed mountain]

yeah might be good if its uncapped

[cedar yarrow]

God i love update day market manipulation

Im basically god now

[fossil mural]

1 chisel for 5c pag

[zenith citrus]

Hallowed flame can't be high damage

[fossil mural]

Yea in std

[hexed mountain]

being god when nobody's playing kekw

[fossil mural]

Who cares

[cedar yarrow]

Try 10 chisels 1 div per

[hexed mountain]

its like vegeta being the prince of sayans

[cedar yarrow]

Im RICH

[zenith citrus]

If a lvl 1 can trigger it no way is it gonna give high damage

[fossil mural]

Thats monopoly money, sir

[true falcon]

Too late to start 3.28, everyone is already too far ahead :(

[stoic horizon]

its literally 25% phys as extra fire, unless you can pop all stacks at once then 50% on guardian

[cedar yarrow]

Lets ignore the idiot who paid a mirror for 1k chisels

We dont talk about him

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[zenith citrus]

Where do you get that info

[cobalt blade]

based

[stoic horizon]

bottom of guardian node from reveal

[cedar yarrow]

Exploiting panic is a great hobby

[crisp obsidian]

???????

[pulsar dune]

The idea would be that you stack up multiple per hit from the actual damage source.

[cedar yarrow]

People are predictable okay

[fossil mural]

It doesnt work well with holy strike or whatever

[cedar yarrow]

I do this for a living

[fossil mural]

Cause you summon multiple weapons

[stoic horizon]

yeah

i wonder how multistrike works

[fossil mural]

Unless there is a way to apply like 4 stacks at once

[pulsar dune]

Yea, the guardian node is probably more for the second line

[prime hill]

is poo1 saved

[stoic horizon]

like does multistrike do 9 hits with the minions or 3

[fossil mural]

Need to feel it

[prime hill]

same, yesterday some people were giving me brain damage here

[fossil mural]

Imagine they are minion as capped KEKL

Need to scale both

[zealous idol]

does temporal chains prevent me from regening es?

[stoic horizon]

would be sad, they really need to attack together with you

[fossil mural]

Shouldnt?

Its just action slow

[stoic horizon]

no unless specifially mentioned somewhere

[zenith citrus]

Hallowed flame seems kinda weak

[zealous idol]

im in a map, and i cant gain es, but no mod and only temp chains, its completly still

[cobalt blade]

Imagine they dont get your supports it's just an unlinked skill for the minions

[prime hill]

one thing I laughed my ass off is like

[fossil mural]

Yea it seems bad unless you get it from ag or smth

[prime hill]

they nerfed everything about herald stacker

[silk scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1469387892588548128.webp?size=96&animated=true

gifs still disabled what

[stoic horizon]

ghost dance/divine shield snd reduced aura effect?

[prime hill]

even for the low budget versions

[fossil mural]

People already pobed phys dot and its 35mil like before

With same defences

[prime hill]

fuck phys dot

I really didnt enjoy phys dot tbh

[hexed mountain]

full herald BV looks kinda good still

[fossil mural]

You only use it for single target anyway

[zealous idol]

doesent seem lik eit

[fossil mural]

Clear with hive

[hexed mountain]

elem most likely still top 3 played for 3.28

[zenith citrus]

will attack the enemies you target with Holy Strike
Sounds like multistrike don't work

[prime hill]

yeah the classic

[frigid wedge]

can someone explain the uh, the new orb of storms to me

[prime hill]

I went exsang mines, someone I knew went phys dot

[fossil mural]

It tps every time it shoots

[hexed mountain]

teleports to you when you use a lightning skill

[prime hill]

difference was very funny

[zenith citrus]

Wtf gifs disabled

[fossil mural]

Also ubers need 4 frags now

[stoic horizon]

same stuff as always on reveal

[prime hill]

pog in low supply times we can get 10 more ubers before dying up market

[frigid wedge]

wait maybe i will mana stack then

that solves lightning conduit clear

[stoic horizon]

at least this time they took off cooldown fast

[fossil mural]

Farm yourself

[hexed mountain]

did they mention if the imbued gem is always the same color ? like red sups for red gems?

[fossil mural]

You can now more or less target farm ubers

[prime hill]

if I bother to play seriously that's what im gonna do

[stoic horizon]

there is separate currency for each gem color

[fossil mural]

Its the colour of orb used

[hexed mountain]

aight

might try to hit rage support for kinetic fusillade

[prime hill]

might just chill this league just to see, then quit

[fossil mural]

Idk what to play, I dont want to do ele hit cause penance mark is supposed to not be avalaible day 1-2

But I also dont want a dedicated bosser

[stoic horizon]

its melee only

[prime hill]

im gonna just do the same starter cuz I liked it

exsang mines

losing chain for mapping hurts tho

[onyx adder]

Yea u become a 1.5 button skill

[hexed mountain]

ah right , its written in the blue text not the text i read

[prime hill]

time to lose dps with chain support ig

[onyx adder]

It also splits for miles so u dont get those random prolif holes that oos sometimes gives u

[fossil mural]

Just trigger all of it with spellslinger lul

[visual stream]

not really

[prime hill]

but later on

since stackers etc got nerfed

ig I just wanna try kf this time

[onyx adder]

Triggering lightning conduit is no bueno

[prime hill]

since I didn't try last 2 legs

[frigid wedge]

who tf said i was gonna press a button for orb of storms

[prime hill]

as my second build

[onyx adder]

It probably makes sense to over automating it tbh

[stable hawk]

what changed in that regard?

[celest skiff]

what if lightning warp traveled instead of you

[onyx adder]

If its once per like 8 casts or whatever

[prime hill]

atleast I won't need 2-3 mirrors to feel good like pbod

[stable hawk]

to make it more target farmable

[prime hill]

with the VISION ™ I had

[fossil mural]

Each map drops only certaim fragments

[brazen vector]

OwO

[frigid wedge]

ok but now consider, kitavas thirst archmage lc with the lightning mastery to get my shocks for storms

[fossil mural]

Not like before where its priority and then can drop any frag

[stoic horizon]

you have a different maps for each uber that target drop frags for that uber

[stable hawk]

ohh shit, ontop of 4 frags instead of 5? Damn

[brazen vector]

[onyx adder]

Yea u can give up ur helmet slot if u want

[fossil mural]

And you have one map that can access any of them

[stable hawk]

Ya we alrdy could target specific t17s, so we can still do that on top of the nightmare maps only dropping specific frags now?

[onyx adder]

I just think real helmet is better because of the problems that triggered LC has

[frigid wedge]

i do want

[visual stream]

imagine ggg adding stuff like cast when shock from poe2 to poe1

[onyx adder]

So u cant ever full automate

[frigid wedge]

triggered orb

not conduit

[visual stream]

LC 1 butten

[onyx adder]

I know

[prime hill]

atleast memeing in twitch chat was more fun for reveal

[stable hawk]

Oh any nightmare map can go to any specific nightmare layout

[prime hill]

than memeing in here

[stable hawk]

Ya makes sense

[hexed mountain]

another W for ssf

[fossil mural]

Actually big for ssf?

[hexed mountain]

feelsgoodman

[onyx adder]

Im saying helmet slot for solely 1 click per 8 screens is not it

At least i wouldnt do it

[hexed mountain]

SSF been taking Ws the entire patch

[stable hawk]

Man that's so fucking nice

[fossil mural]

And in trade doesnt matter what layout you farm

[visual stream]

in QnA mark said this league loot will be x2 ammount and chat spam 2x0 =0 lmao

[prime hill]

ssf is eating good ngl

[fossil mural]

I want to see how good boss rush + reliq rooms is

[prime hill]

yeah just reading notes/reveals felt bad but we genuinely need to see how the sextant/mechanic stacks up

[hexed mountain]

completing the atlas in SSF got 10 times easier and i'm not exagerating , only needing 10 unique maps is wild , just like picking any map you want

[fossil mural]

You do have to drop them or beascraft

No scoutings

[prime hill]

I was kind of about to lose it and eat some infractions here yesterday ngl

[hexed mountain]

how many times have i been at 123 completion till week 2 or 3 because the damn vaults or cowards isnt dropping

[hexed mountain]

yeah but its still easier to get the 10 less rare

[fossil mural]

Are you on the side of loot or against loot

[prime hill]

hi I farm 30/40 divs every league :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[prime hill]

jesus that guy gave me brain damage

[fossil mural]

I saw that

[visual stream]

ppl play arpg for loot why u dont want loot

[onyx adder]

Cowards in ssf is critical regardless of atlas u cant craft without it

[visual stream]

[hexed mountain]

yeah but you still would rather complete the atlas asap

[prime hill]

I want loot

I like how that guy was trying to twist what I say everytime

[onyx adder]

Its nice not needing twilight temple for atlas tho

[hexed mountain]

also being able to run the conq maps on good layouts gives me a boner

[onyx adder]

Ignore that shit forever

[south lotus]

desicated belt will be better than mb with good rolls

[tranquil sedge]

how is this a change?

t17s already had fragment bias?

[south lotus]

Accel shrine + diamond

[fossil mural]

Its no bias anymore, its hard locked

[south lotus]

or even gloom

[hexed mountain]

dont even need a perfect roll i'm taking echoing shrine over mageblood

[tranquil sedge]

oh
cool

[onyx adder]

Apparently it cant do that

[stoic horizon]

echoing + diamond will be worth mirrors

[onyx adder]

Some dev in ziz stream was saying it always rolls 1 offensive and 1 defensive shrine

[south lotus]

it cant roll both?

[fossil mural]

I wonder if charges is offensive or defensive

[hexed mountain]

so defensive shrine optimal roll is always resistance isnt it , with gull its 90 max alone

[zenith citrus]

Is it divinable

[onyx adder]

Probably

[pulsar dune]

Necro OOS plume slinger with psoa to proc oos, slinger to stack up corpse pact etc you get it.

[brazen vector]

gull + blunderbore meta

[onyx adder]

Whats the number on defenses shrine

[zenith citrus]

Divine shrine kappa

[fossil mural]

5% I think, and like 100 res?

[hexed mountain]

surely you can't divine the shrines like a shako

[fossil mural]

Actually the res might be much lower

Like 50

[hexed mountain]

if you can any of these belt will cost an arm

[true drum]

has GGG made the christmas mystery box for PoE1 players claimable yet?

[fossil mural]

I had a lot of effect on my build lmao

[onyx adder]

No thats 10%/50, i was wondering the defenses shrine that gives armour and es and shit

[zenith citrus]

You can divine shakos tho?

[frigid wedge]

the diamond shrine shit seems ridiculous

[fossil mural]

Any of these belts cost your organs. Literally immortal is ugh

[onyx adder]

Wiki says its 100

Which is ok but u would always rather have the res

[hexed mountain]

marylene league

[fossil mural]

PA league

Trust

[frigid wedge]

my league this league was marylene league

[fossil mural]

If charges is considered defensive id rather get that

[hexed mountain]

bogger enjoyer?

[fallow fern]

did they confirm that holy slam can be used only with hammers

[frigid wedge]

fish

[fossil mural]

Stack charges and have full at all times with 90% pdr and insane damage

[hexed mountain]

aight

[fossil mural]

You can see on website

[undone gazelle]

you can save up some points from the tree that allocates crit as well, diamond and accel belt are gonna be the ones worth

[fossil mural]

If its offensive

Then res + charges

Is insane

[zenith citrus]

You will get lightning and shrouded and you will enjoy it

[fossil mural]

Who needs flasks

[hexed mountain]

slayer salivating at the charge one , flicker for free and immortal

[crisp elm]

67

[fallow fern]

ok good i can use staffs

[surreal musk]

mods

[zenith citrus]

Use tinctures too

Who needs flasks

[stoic horizon]

winds of fate diamond shrine login

[hexed mountain]

if charges is considered offensive you could have charges + ele res and have 90 max res with 90% reduced ele damage taken

[fossil mural]

10 end charges with no shrine effect is already 70 pdr and edr

[hexed mountain]

yeah you're basically god

[fossil mural]

What item is it btw

I missed that

Belt?

[hexed mountain]

yeah

[zenith citrus]

Cool name tho

[hexed mountain]

requires to not have flasks active

[fossil mural]

Actually better than mb

[hexed mountain]

yep

[zenith citrus]

Screams of the dessicated

[crisp elm]

😂

[frigid wedge]

its guaranteed crit, idk how aware you are of the insanity that is 100% cc explode

[hexed mountain]

inb4 every belt just rolls freezing shrine :^)

[fossil mural]

100% weighted

[stoic horizon]

so we can use the 3rd ring with the belt

juicy

[fossil mural]

You need to get ms somewhere doe

[hexed mountain]

3rd ring to get a 3rd +1 power charge

[zenith citrus]

Imagine being sucked dry by one of those dessicant packs

[fossil mural]

Since no mb or flasks

[onyx adder]

Im not even excited for guaranteed crit because its competing with accel shrine

[stoic horizon]

accel + echo shrine

[zenith citrus]

No way it gives accel shrine

[frigid wedge]

first time in a while mb might not be bis for heister

[fossil mural]

Crit is legit weaker than charge imho

Unless you using the amulet and like 4% base crit

[frigid wedge]

they nerfed charge shrine

its just +1 max of all now

instead of the bullshit it had before

[fossil mural]

Oh wait they removed all the additional stuff

Not just inc

[frigid wedge]

we lose this for 1 max charge

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[prime hill]

yep

F resonating shrine

[fossil mural]

Nvm its dead

[frigid wedge]

honestly charlatan didnt need a nerf bc this halved the dps

[zenith citrus]

Also retains charge on hit/kill

[fossil mural]

Charlatan is still okay for rare stacked strats but yea

[frigid wedge]

yay the useless bit

[fossil mural]

Not really

You get all charges

Instantly

[frigid wedge]

charlatan is still broken as fuck but losing the frenzy charge shit sucks ass

[prime hill]

yeah getting charges is not useless

[frigid wedge]

ok compared to the rest of the shrine

pretty useless

as a general thing

is aight

[prime hill]

depending on archetype

it saves a timeless slot etc etc

but yeah

[fossil mural]

Discharge gaming

[zenith citrus]

Lowkey

[frigid wedge]

charlatan has to take ele hubris anyways in 99% of cases tho bc blunderbore requires like 700 str

[fossil mural]

Can gain charges with discharge for clear

[high magnet]

so charlatan dead minus super high investment?

[fossil mural]

I tried stacking str

Didnt work

Lmao

[frigid wedge]

not really, u just lose out a lot by missing resonating stuff

[high magnet]

this is like what 50% less dps

[prime hill]

leg in a week right

[frigid wedge]

if anything it's better bc the new belt lets u ramp less

but u lose hh for that

[fossil mural]

Way way more

[high magnet]

but you need hh

yea

[frigid wedge]

inspired learning

[thick narwhal]

does anyone know if fracturing orbs are added to sanctum since they are in core drop table now ?

[fossil mural]

You dont

Learning is good enough

[prime hill]

ig I just simulate league start exsang in ssf

[fossil mural]

You have 50% expiery rate

[prime hill]

without grafts and refraction

[fossil mural]

And it works for il

[undone gazelle]

this might be a good guess on the 2 shrine effects

Offensive
Lightning Shrine
Freezing Shrine
Skeletal Shrine
Acceleration Shrine
Diamond Shrine
Brutal Shrine
Echoing Shrine
Resonating Shrine
Gloom Shrine

Defensive
Shrouded Shrine
Massive Shrine
Resistance Shrine
Impenetrable Shrine
Replenishing Shrine
Divine Shrine (might not be in the pool)

[high magnet]

this pob for charalatan i have goes from 2b to 600m

so about 75% nerf

[fossil mural]

70%

[lofty geyser]

what exactly was nerfed

[high magnet]

yep

[surreal musk]

i dont think echoing shrine would be in either

[lofty geyser]

i saw the 250% nerf

[gentle chasm]

youre basically banking on acceleration+1 more good one

[high magnet]

damn was gunna league start some bum elementalist build and go for charalatan

[fossil mural]

Charge shrine

[gentle chasm]

no speed is probably instant trash

[frigid wedge]

divine shrine and gloom shrine are 2 I wouldn't count on

[high magnet]

divine njo way

lol

[fossil mural]

Acceleration and res prob

[fossil mural]

Maybe one will drop

And only one

[gentle chasm]

or speed+crit

[undone gazelle]

and somehow ben got it

[zenith citrus]

Giving acceleration is way too op

[high magnet]

acceleration + resonatng wil be bis for every build

[fossil mural]

Echoing might be good enough for wintry blast

[high magnet]

or echoing i mean

[gentle chasm]

yea but youre losing flasks otherwise

[frigid wedge]

yk, sometimes i wish my build decisions didnt have to be so complex all the time, i can't spin a wheel bc im too fuckin autistic

[high magnet]

warden and the one boss ascendency

[fossil mural]

Just do ele hit

And then maybe breach ele hit

[frigid wedge]

hell no

[zenith citrus]

Just leap slam everywhere smh

Or flicker

[prime hill]

aight I actually have a question

[fossil mural]

No

Discharge resonating shrine here I come

[junior otter]

Paths not taken is a really neat keystone

I honestly wonder if it's actually good

[crisp obsidian]

I love the endgame changes but I am so damn dissapointed in how much GGG hates SELFCAST spells and are unable to do anything good for them while constantly bringing cool attack stuff into the game

[prime hill]

how good is kf with decent gear out of zoomermaxxing or just ok

[junior otter]

Surely someone could do the math

[prime hill]

because I just ignored everything related to kinetic fussilade

[undone gazelle]

totem or self cast, they're both good

[rough tulip]

KF boutta have 40% play rate

[high magnet]

it sounds like it just opens more div cards to be in the drop pool? or am i misunderstandionf

[frigid wedge]

if it was that simple for me to do shit like that that'd be nice
one of my considerations rn is cast on melee kill camerias avarice ice spear with mothers embrace

[fossil mural]

Kf is really cheap to get going, as long as the rings arent expensive

[prime hill]

fair

[zenith citrus]

What's kf

[prime hill]

im not gonna league start it but

[fossil mural]

They said it doubles the drops

[prime hill]

thinking about doing it as second build

[undone gazelle]

3 to 1 cheap ones for better rolls is an early choice

[high magnet]

like everything drops 2x stack?

or 100 more div cards

[junior otter]

No

[fossil mural]

Idk, thats what they said

[high magnet]

weird

sounds bad

[fossil mural]

Didnt elaborate

[high magnet]

maybe with pilfering

[junior otter]

Let's say I'm running strand wjth the keystone

[high magnet]

could be cool

[fossil mural]

Thats a fuck ton of gold

[prime hill]

man another question aswell

[junior otter]

Instead of dropping a strand card, I drop two cards from other maps on the atlas

[prime hill]

so if I wanna convert someone who plays poe 2 and said person LOVES spells

do I have any proper choice

[junior otter]

It just doubles div drops and remove target farming

[high magnet]

so maybe when one card drops it drops 2 random other cards?

[visual stream]

lightning conduit is selft cast and quite good

[prime hill]

or it's just all screwed

[high magnet]

of similar rarity?

[fossil mural]

Yes wintry blast hive stacker ele LULE

[visual stream]

even better now with the new oos

[prime hill]

... XD

pain

[junior otter]

I do not think rarity comes into it

[high magnet]

maybe just rolls 2 random div card drops on other maps when one drops then

[undone gazelle]

LC might be a 1.5 buttom build with the new oos+light warp

[junior otter]

Just whenever you would have dropped a card you instead drop 2 different ones

[celest skiff]

Should I play FB, FB, FB, FB, FB, FB, or FB?

[junior otter]

The game picks two maps other than the one you're in to pull from the div card pool

[high magnet]

well whats the average div card price

[junior otter]

Very low

[high magnet]

because thats what your gunna get on average

still sounds bad

[junior otter]

Idk

[livid quarry]

so cyclone of tulmut gets 30% more attack speed each stage is that 1.3^5

[junior otter]

I think it could be good

[high magnet]

if my average div card price on burial chambers is say 20c per map

[crisp obsidian]

nvm selfcast is fixed, one spell is good POG

[high magnet]

and other maps combined is like 2c

[crisp obsidian]

glad this game works like that

[high magnet]

its not close to worth

[frigid wedge]

maybe the time has come

[fossil mural]

Wintry blast is a good spell

[junior otter]

Well yeah obviously but would it really math out like that

[hoary scarab]

words

[high magnet]

well if it just drops 2 div cards per 1 yeah logically

but maybe if it works someway else

[junior otter]

You just run maps with bad card pools

[fossil mural]

Whats the expert opinion on self cast

[rough tulip]

Man, CWS got quintuple-tapped, kinda brutal

[prime hill]

so while I sleept

[junior otter]

Youre not only adding all bad cards to your pool, you're adding all good cards too

[hoary scarab]

idk where is the expert

[prime hill]

did anyone noticed we lost a lot of kirac strats btw or did they add them back via other means

[high magnet]

yeah but i might as well just run the best map for div cards

[fossil mural]

I thought you knew some

[high magnet]

and drop 1x instead of 2x

[prime hill]

😔 my poor beast/harvest strats

[high magnet]

cause the average card price is way way way higher

than the diluted pool

[hoary scarab]

not in poe1

[junior otter]

Do we actually know that tho

Like sure you're less likely to get the big payouts

But you could get a lot of reasonably good payouts

[fossil mural]

It also means you juice the boss harder

[high magnet]

well if youre adding every other map into the pool on average

it seems like it

[fossil mural]

Slightly

[prime hill]

ill miss harby

[tranquil sedge]

div cards have always been weighted, so for it to be better you'd need the total expected value to be at least half as much (excluding cards you don't think you'll ever drop in this lifetime, ofc)

[prime hill]

[high magnet]

sure you could but im just saying it seems better to just run the best div card map

[tranquil sedge]

twice the cards means it must be at least half as much value per card on average or more

[high magnet]

yes thats what im saying

[fossil mural]

I doubt thats the case

[tranquil sedge]

and if that value is skewed to the top end by rarer more valuable cards

you're going to run more maps on average too

i think i'd probably rather focus on a single map's cards if i was div card farming too

[prime hill]

yeah other 2 map pool part really screws it

[junior otter]

You can also pick map farm purely by layout if you use it

[high magnet]

gotta be misunderstanding it or its just dead on arrival

classic ggg

[tranquil sedge]

not saying it is or it isn't, just what it needs to be to not be dead content

[prime hill]

better to have targetted farm than just yoloing as always

[high magnet]

u can just scry it though

[fossil mural]

Should be your map + a random map maybe

[junior otter]

Meh you guys are unbelievers

[high magnet]

to whatever layout you want

[fossil mural]

This

[junior otter]

That would just be pure upside lmao

[tranquil sedge]

i'd say skeptical not unbelieving

[fossil mural]

You will get the dude like every other map with ore farming lol

[cosmic raptor]

need new leg

[fossil mural]

You have like 1000 packs a map

[tranquil sedge]

not necessarily

[high magnet]

why would i want to dilute my good map pool

with some random dogshit

[tranquil sedge]

if the other map has worse div cards then it becomes a downside

[brazen vector]

just scry

[stone tundra]

Rf can do every league mechanic?

[prime hill]

even harby deli beyond was giving me nameless seer every second map

[tranquil sedge]

but its prob more upside than downside on average ye if it was just ur map + 1 more, maybe 2 more to balance it better

[prime hill]

so ye

[junior otter]

But you're doubling div drops

[cosmic raptor]

just scry

[fossil mural]

It wouldnt dilute. It would drop a card from your pool and then add another from another map

[tranquil sedge]

ye it'd have to be 2 more maps at least

[high magnet]

ah ok maybe itd be good then

[surreal musk]

what if you scry the top 50 expected value maps onto the bottom 50

[fossil mural]

But that would need a downside

[junior otter]

It would just be pure upside if it let you still target pools

[high magnet]

i wonder if it interacts with scry

that would be kinda nuts actually

your whole atlas purple lol

[fossil mural]

I doubt

[high magnet]

scry everything

[fossil mural]

You also can only scry a map once

So at most you reduce the pool by half

[high magnet]

yeah butthis

[fossil mural]

By elimimating shit maps

[high magnet]

yeah true

[fossil mural]

I mean it would be cool

[high magnet]

also about 100 hours of setuyp

haha

[fossil mural]

Like an atlas wide set up

For perhaps a good payout

But ggg wont do it

Cause fun not allowed

[slate pumice]

where patch nudes

[junior otter]

I don't see why it wouldn't work with scry

[high magnet]

well if its an atlas keystone there has to be a downside right?

[fossil mural]

Where jung interview

[high magnet]

whats the use case

it just seems worse

[prime hill]

4th

[fossil mural]

Lol

[high magnet]

like 2x for getting 2 random cards is never worth

[prime hill]

im actually waiting for it ngl

thats gonna be peak

[blazing nymph]

Worse if you want to target farm, better if you're just running a bunch of maps for other reasons and want to see what you get

[junior otter]

Idk I'm gonna try it

[high magnet]

good point

[fossil mural]

The new keystone for influence doesnt really have a downside, except where you want to rush reliq vaults. Ig that counts

[junior otter]

The dopamine of always being able to drop a nimis/mag blood/hh/mirror card no matter what I'm doing

What a thrill

[high magnet]

i was thinking about that one, its worded in a way that it seems like you can cut off your own map?

since it will choose the region with the most influence if it gets bisected

that seems annoying

[junior otter]

I would've thought it'd cut from the edges first

[fossil mural]

Yea it can probably end the influence early you are right

[high magnet]

yep

[grizzled lily]

what happens if u link the new support gem with exploding frogs to level 30 imp doom?

[fossil mural]

We dont know?

Also frog gaming

[high magnet]

so the absolute best way will be to run the other layouts

[fossil mural]

My dudes

[high magnet]

i think they should make it take from the edges tbh to give player choice

[fossil mural]

The mods dont seem to be worth it ngl

[junior otter]

Am I crazy or was one of the exceptional gems a non-strike ancestral call

[fossil mural]

Maybe you just use more influence balls

[high magnet]

we havent seen any of the mods tbh

[tranquil sedge]

Introduced the Coin of Knowledge, which Corrupts a level 20 Skill Gem, Imbuing it with a random valid Intelligence Support effect.

Introduced the Coin of Power, which Corrupts a level 20 Skill Gem, Imbuing it with a random valid Strength Support effect.

Introduced the Coin of Skill, which Corrupts a level 20 Skill Gem, Imbuing it with a random valid Dexterity Support effect

now ppl are gonna have to choose between overlevel and new corruption, plus its a random support

this should drive up demand for base uncorrupted gems a lot i reckon

this looks like a pretty fun trade league update lol

[high magnet]

there are probably good ones for league mechanics

[fossil mural]

We saw some

[high magnet]

30% more currency and scarabs is pretty good

thats like 2 risk scarabs

[fossil mural]

They seemed super random

[junior otter]

Yeah crazy high roll possibilities

[tranquil sedge]

they're all level 1 supports tho right

[hoary scarab]

you seem super random

[prime hill]

most of my builds just like extra level more tbh

which is sad

[fossil mural]

5way leveling gems pog

[junior otter]

Still like a 6.5 link at worst

[tranquil sedge]

good outcomes on valuable base gems are definitely gonna cost a lot

[fossil mural]

Your mom was very deliberate doe

[grizzled lily]

i wonder if the frogs will just respawn without dying like a spellslinger tornado and if we will have 100 frogs exploding a boss

[prime hill]

O_O

[tranquil sedge]

just more reason to level up gems in your offhand evne when casually mapping or whatever

[hoary scarab]

modmailed

[junior otter]

Well "at worst" assuming you don't hit a worthless support or one that's too good

[frigid wedge]

god i hate leaguestart

[prime hill]

was nice knowing you salty

[fossil mural]

Dont lie

[junior otter]

Imagine rolling level 1 archmage support, rip

[prime hill]

half lying

[onyx adder]

I cant wait till week 2 when reddit has their gems hit 20 and starts clicking coins

[grizzled lily]

wait until u use that on a red skill and u get level 1 sadism

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[onyx adder]

GUYS I PUT BRUTALITY ON MY ELE HIT

[fossil mural]

"I got lifetap as ci"

[prime hill]

[onyx adder]

I DONT HAVE SPARES

[junior otter]

xd

[onyx adder]

Its gonna be so funny

[frigid wedge]

while looking for any recent lwarp tshot setups look who i found

[fossil mural]

This will be so real

[hoary scarab]

time to buy a leveled gem

[junior otter]

Do we think holy sweep looks good guys

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[onyx adder]

Do we have numbers

On holy sweep

[tranquil sedge]

certainly better than old sweep i mean

[tranquil sedge]

ye sec

[hoary scarab]

kek

[tawdry olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rfz3ri/number_comparisons_for_int_acc_stacker_after_328/

[fossil mural]

The hammers seem super delayed

[high magnet]

do we have numbers on the holy hammers?

[livid quarry]

did we have all gem level up on 1 click?

[blazing nymph]

Yes but i'm an idiot, so

[livid quarry]

i forgot

[hoary scarab]

yes

[fossil mural]

Yes

[junior otter]

The hammers are 65% of the main hit

[livid quarry]

nice

[junior otter]

Main hit is 440%

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.pathofexile.com/mirage

[junior otter]

70% asp ratio

[fossil mural]

440% de doe

[junior otter]

It's more single target than sunder

[livid quarry]

does cyclone of tulmut have 1000% DE

[tawdry olive]

In case folks are too lazy to click

That’s a poggers nerf

[tranquil sedge]

lmfao

[junior otter]

It's 508% per second including hammer

It's not that bad

[tight plinth]

New sweep is essentially the same numbers wise as old sweep?

[pulsar dune]

Why does it have 70% asp smh

GGG please

[tight plinth]

If youre hitting one target?

[frigid wedge]

so like, what if car build

[fossil mural]

It can multihit prob no?

[junior otter]

Assuming no hammer overlaps

[hoary scarab]

btw that nerf isnt actually a nerf, it just got worded wrong

[fossil mural]

Like once per use

[tranquil sedge]

the comments on this reddit thread are written by morons

[junior otter]

We really think hammers can't overlap?

[tranquil sedge]

they just see 100m dps and they're like yea its justified

fucking idiots lmfao as if that build budget wasn't measured in mirrors

[grizzled lily]

diserved

[fossil mural]

They drop on enemies, so ofc they can

[tight plinth]

It cam but how you gonna get another mob

[fossil mural]

Or so you mean the slam

[fossil mural]

Penance mark league

[junior otter]

worm

[hexed mountain]

New sweep and worm flask

[fossil mural]

@brazen vector worm

[tight plinth]

Would hammer still fall if the enemy is deadge?

[junior otter]

hope so

[fossil mural]

"Enemies struck"

[frigid wedge]

so

[tight plinth]

Even if it works, its still meh

[fossil mural]

Dont see why not

[crisp obsidian]

oh good point

holy it's gonna be funny

when people break their builds accidentally

[pulsar dune]

yea for sure if you go worms

[frigid wedge]

i guess ill just bring back a build that bricked in 3.23

for fun

[pulsar dune]

or IG hydrosphere and tornado

[tight plinth]

But like how many worms can you bring

[frigid wedge]

its not exactly much worse

[high magnet]

was the stats on Holy Hammers released anywhere? it says its can drop hammers up to a "cap"

whats that cap

[junior otter]

Holy hammer stats are in reveal page

[hoary scarab]

8

[fossil mural]

Base sweep doesnt hit multiple times by default? Like the spin

[frigid wedge]

lightning warp tornado shot anyone?

[pulsar dune]

afaik no

[hoary scarab]

spellslinger lightning warp KF with new orb of storms

[fossil mural]

Poo2 better

[pulsar dune]

it's just a circle hit

[tight plinth]

Id rather go elehit if going jank overlaps

[frigid wedge]

rather lwarp

ts

[hoary scarab]

nuh uh

[fossil mural]

Whats the point of the orb

[hoary scarab]

u are an L warp

[fossil mural]

Just extra damage?

[frigid wedge]

im aware that im an L

[pulsar dune]

nah, you do power siphon of the archmage to proc oos

[grizzled lily]

they buffed binos just to completey gut mamba

[pulsar dune]

it is a bit less AS

[brazen vector]

not enough

[fossil mural]

I need trans kf info

[hoary scarab]

but kf too good

[hoary scarab]

it just seems like voltaxic burst ngl

[frigid wedge]

mother's embrace 5 worm flasks living lightning go brrt

[pulsar dune]

oh you want to actually do damage with kf

[fossil mural]

They made the big proj gems special or whatev

[junior otter]

Divine blast is a weird skill

[pulsar dune]

yea then do kf

[short prairie]

What’s kungfu

[fossil mural]

If it has big area and de might be good

Got rocket warning

[junior otter]

Are the numbers on divine blast good compared to crush/throw

[fossil mural]

Pag

[tight plinth]

Im interested in divine strike

[junior otter]

Like duration kinda a annoying but if the numbers are sick maybe you're ok with it? Probably not

[fossil mural]

Stack red duration

Another skill

For that

[junior otter]

Minions 🤢

[fossil mural]

[tight plinth]

Looks slow to explode but manageable

[high magnet]

what about the new shock nova

seems sick

[fossil mural]

Less duration plus tree might be enough

[gentle chasm]

man i kinda want to play sab now with some trigger shit

[tight plinth]

Shock nova poison

[fossil mural]

Yea and it can def overlap a decent bit

[surreal musk]

new shock nova prob good with mines

[fossil mural]

Like at least 3?

[hoary scarab]

you can get a ton of cooldown recovery now

[near crypt]

I expect the new belt to last 1 patch as is if it works like advertised

[pulsar dune]

it's a spell, so it's probably bad going by historic patterns, but I'm hopeful

[dense rock]

We have any info on when pob updates for the upcoming stuff?

[blazing nymph]

It looked very good in the videos cos they were showcasing it with pledge of hands, i want to try it with some other setups before committing. But yeah, very cool

[short prairie]

Why no one’s cooking flicker scion

[hoary scarab]

they have shown the cdr support too

[gentle chasm]

because we dont have node details

[fossil mural]

I was surprised to find there wasnt before lmao

[short prairie]

[junior otter]

Holy hammer doesn't look like it overlaps well

[high magnet]

spells were good for so long from like 2018-2023 its fine for them to be bad now lol

[short prairie]

Terminus is just increase crit 20 aspd and gain frenzy when crit

[prime hill]

magefist is already drooling

[tight plinth]

Quadruple defenses on shield tho

[prime hill]

just wait for node details ig

[short prairie]

I’m drooling more

[fossil mural]

We havent seen it with conc effect

[junior otter]

Doesn't that usually just change distance proportionally

[fossil mural]

If you make them small enough

Might hit anyway

[junior otter]

Yeah but then like

[hexed mountain]

We were talking about it earlier yeah

[junior otter]

Nice puny poo skill

[fossil mural]

Well we also prob

Didnt see a lot of area

Stacking

But I doubt it works with that

I feel like that would spawn hammers farther apart

[junior otter]

It's 1.8 base radius so like it's reasonable

[onyx adder]

1 overlap makes the skill competitive dps

So

[fossil mural]

With power charges maybe

[hexed mountain]

It sounds like its a skill that scales with packsize

[gentle chasm]

when are they making arc a projectile here too

[high magnet]

cap of 2 hammers is rough

[fossil mural]

God I wish

[junior otter]

What counts as competitive DPS

[high magnet]

i want to hammer a whole legion :(

[onyx adder]

Its a slow 660 skill with 1 overlap

[short prairie]

Acceptable supports for flicker corrupted are ancestral call, fortify support, inspiration support.

[onyx adder]

Thats the same as most slams not named earthshatter

[hexed mountain]

Its a slam tho

So its gud

[short prairie]

[junior otter]

What's your take on sweep wtd that's what I wanna known

[short prairie]

Bad

[high magnet]

tectonic of cataclysm still clears it though

[fossil mural]

It should function like poe2 sweep

[junior otter]

Why

[onyx adder]

I didnt see the gem

[blazing nymph]

Not enough flickering, i assume

[onyx adder]

Srev said he was gonna link it but i think he got eaten by a grue

[short prairie]

This is the answer

[past rain]

eblade is lowkey cooked

[tranquil sedge]

i already did lol

[onyx adder]

Oh

[high magnet]

holy hammers?

[onyx adder]

Link it again

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.pathofexile.com/mirage
scroll down and click on the red gem

[short prairie]

Srev srev, Cooke me a flicker scion pob

Pls

[tranquil sedge]

l0l

[surreal musk]

diamond shrine belt makes coc playable on anything with 0 crit investment might be some cool builds enabled

[junior otter]

Don't mind the volume

[onyx adder]

Probably not good enough?

[tranquil sedge]

WHAT DID YOU SAY? 👂

[onyx adder]

But not like embarrassing

[junior otter]

I'm starting it

[gloomy jewel]

did they just nerf the only remaining viable strat (Blight), and just moved every egg in the strongbox basket?

[surreal musk]

they nerfed boxes too

[onyx adder]

Its just like one of the skills of all time if its a 700/70 skill that u cant seismic cry

[high magnet]

this is better than holy hammers in every way

[pulsar dune]

if you have the charge gen to sustain it

[short prairie]

Why so many holy skills, so holy is a damage type now? Aside from fire cold lightning chaos and phys?

[tranquil sedge]

?

how

[high magnet]

u need charge gen for holy hammers too

not as much but still

[onyx adder]

I mean if ur just hitting things with 0 or 1 charges holy hammer is heaps better

[high magnet]

even no charges this has higher damage

[surreal musk]

'reduced the efficacy of ambush scarab of discernment'

[tranquil sedge]

o

[onyx adder]

No charges 1 overlap = holy hammers much better

[gloomy jewel]

oh... so they probably watched fubgun's and snap's videos and then just nerfed whatever was still viable?

[junior otter]

Holy hammer is worse tho unless you're overlapping

[onyx adder]

1 overlap looks reasonable from the video

[high magnet]

maybe the first hit can overlap if u stand correctly

it looks like

[hexed mountain]

Yeah nothing else viable better skip league /s

[high magnet]

so with overlap its 440% effectiveness with 20% more dmg

[gentle chasm]

until their favorite streamer comes up with whatever is 'viable'

[onyx adder]

No

Its 660

[gloomy jewel]

that might be an /s, but unless there is a bug that breaks the game there will be nothing to farm

[junior otter]

First hammer does double

[short prairie]

I’d do legion with the mirage buff

[high magnet]

tec slam is 472 with 15% more dmg if u use 1 charge like holy hammers

[hexed mountain]

Sure sure. Unplayable

[short prairie]

To start the league

[high magnet]

ohh

double as in 440?

so 660 effectiveness?

ah i see

[junior otter]

As in 100% more but yeah

[onyx adder]

Yea at 660/85 slam its legit

Better than 700/70 no slam sorry cank

[tawdry olive]

They also assume all the parts will become cheaper as if no one has to go out of their way to do the double influence simplex or misted helicals. Folks just like to say stuff

[junior otter]

Nah I'm coping on sweep

[high magnet]

which is that

[junior otter]

Sweep

[onyx adder]

Actually its more hey

775/70

Eh maybe thats playable

[high magnet]

people are exaggerating the slam nerfs too

[junior otter]

Sweep has worm blaster shenanigans too

[high magnet]

slams are still fine

[gloomy jewel]

in the past few leagues the only strats streamers played were strongboxes and blight (and also alva but that only lasted for 1 league)

[onyx adder]

Yea slams are still absolutely fine

[high magnet]

its like maybe 15% less damage

[hexed mountain]

2H skill with 70 base attack speed. Surely it will feel nice to play

[junior otter]

I do feel sad not having seismic

[onyx adder]

Echoes is a lot worse so u probably dont want to sink money into the build

[high magnet]

yeah slams are still shit with investment but thats nothing new

its just for league start

[onyx adder]

But non echoes is barely touched

So u can league start np

[junior otter]

Slower attack speed = more exert uptime

Gotta look on the bright side

[onyx adder]

This is the bit btw that i bang on about earthshatter of fragility

Which is genuinely untouched

[hexed mountain]

[onyx adder]

And is very good

[modern zinc]

they didn't touch Death's Oath, I am very happy

[junior otter]

Earth shatter makes my computer sweat

[high magnet]

storm brand ~35% more dps, what u guys think

[hexed mountain]

D tier

[gentle chasm]

might be usable

[high magnet]

tried it as a swap for pbod and it was terrible so i think still bad

[gentle chasm]

probably not too exciting

[hexed mountain]

Lost the free +1 chzin from refraction

[junior otter]

I really wanna see more exceptional gems

[hexed mountain]

I hope they are not dumb stuff like toad explosion

[high magnet]

what are u guys thinking about for 2nd builds

now that int is gutted

[hexed mountain]

Charge stacker slayer with new belt

[high magnet]

what skill?

[hexed mountain]

Flicker

[hoary scarab]

im bout to make holy strike pop off so hard and then respec day 2

[onyx adder]

Toadsplosion isnt that bad for a bunch of builds that will never use toadsplosion

Because theyre padding wither and dont know because they didnt do math

[olive parrot]

actually i dont know his exact age but its probably close enough

[dense rock]

mana stacker BV 😄

[high magnet]

how does that work lol

[onyx adder]

Archmage bv is legit

[split pagoda]

because of overexertion/autoexert nerfs?

[onyx adder]

Yea

[past rain]

i was planning on playing earthshatter

but holy triple tap

[split pagoda]

yeah hit based slams caught a pretty big nerf but its still solid

[fossil mural]

Btw the changes mean grueling ulti might be big money

[onyx adder]

Earthshatter is still fine but i think i prefer the bleed sunder/groundslam setups for league start now

[fossil mural]

People cant afk it

[split pagoda]

ya bleed slams good

bleed sunder into bleed bonezone

login

[fossil mural]

Bleed sunder into ele hit

[high magnet]

why couldnt they buff bows :(

[dense rock]

no fucking idea but seemed interesting for it 😄

[fossil mural]

Glare and voltaxic arent too bad

[high magnet]

i was thinking about that too

[hexed mountain]

Wait i didnt see but its reserved mana thats interesting

[sly minnow]

its more damage, but it doesnt clears well to even be usable in mobbing afaik

[fossil mural]

Solving mana for this will be so ass

[dense rock]

that and the new scion shit abusing the hell out of the unique ascendancy boosts

[pulsar dune]

storm brand clear is quite good, tho the nerf on refraction sucks

[dense rock]

its bv... you can just pick 1 mana leech node and be set for life

[fossil mural]

You want to reserve as much mana as possible. You will just not have the mana pool normally to cast spells

[hexed mountain]

Mana leech on bv?

[high magnet]

wouldnt most high end bows just be better tho

[dense rock]

fucking life tap that shit 😄

[high magnet]

and not like youre getting those on league start

[vital meteor]

hhi is it possible for me to get one or two microtransactions from this league's challegens before it's over?(im no pro in poe1)

[fossil mural]

Probably

[gentle chasm]

i wonder if the new shock nova with astral projector will be good

[pulsar dune]

was the rift all hits, or weapon hits?

[gentle chasm]

[hexed mountain]

Lifetap with some of the lifetap ascendancies for flat chaos could be fun

[gentle chasm]

on some coc sab

[fossil mural]

Yea I want to see how good scion node is

[gentle chasm]

5 billion mana per second

[hexed mountain]

If its even just decent we getting rathpith enjoyers

[fossil mural]

And then bloodline

For another 25%

Not bait

[sly minnow]

the new scion nodes change every patch too
it's like telling everyone to league start scion every patch to test out new shits

[hexed mountain]

Might drive up the xost of the life stack chest quite a bit

[dense rock]

or go scion as 2nd build and let all the FOTM droolers test that shit out for you

[fossil mural]

Just farm it yourself

[hexed mountain]

Play scion every patch or you are missing out and never able to play that version again

[fossil mural]

I think its high chance?

[fossil mural]

Fomo is real

[hexed mountain]

What was it? Uber venarius?