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tranquil sedge
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ppl were complaining about lacking loot for quite a lot of the league

gritty epoch
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Fk campaign puzzles tho especially when they hide bench recipes behind them

north marsh
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improvments, literally unplayable, logout gg

pulsar dune
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monkeys paw curls

hazy kiln
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the word "big" was never even used in reference to this video, it was just described as longer. one of those things where the exact words change in retelling, I've noticed people going "yo I hear there's big news today?" and going "oh no they're going to be disappointed"

tranquil sedge
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content creators are on the 3.28 pre-release content creation cycle

that's why its all popping up at once

split maple
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okay shrines being clicked over monsters is a nerf to evo kek

pastel ruin
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transigured gem changes are nice, unless that was how you made money 😄

hexed mountain
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damn the lab changed is MASSIVE for ssf

fickle glen
tepid marsh
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absolutely nice for SSF

tranquil umbra
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I mean they still will make money

tranquil sedge
tranquil umbra
split maple
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folks still wont lab like crazy

tranquil sedge
split maple
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like that transfig same is like 1 per 20 fonts

potent bramble
tranquil sedge
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im still happy we got at least this video lol

split maple
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so labrunners will still be a thing

gritty epoch
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Lab farmers have to go heist now bla

cosmic raptor
opal ingot
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HOLY TRANSFIG

somber sundial
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NO MORE BATTLES, GIVE ME A BUILD THAT WILL KILL ME OR SET ME FREE

tranquil sedge
fickle glen
worldly bridge
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guys no

tranquil sedge
tranquil umbra
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lab farmers putting grand spectrums at 1 quadrillion dollars because no one is farming them

worldly bridge
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the build in the video is fusillade

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theyre gonna nerf it

lost dock
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yooo these qols are dope

split maple
narrow yoke
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MARK coooked

tranquil sedge
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the lab change was probably the best thing in that video i think for me
and i dont even like lab lol

split maple
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you get gspectrums by spamming room1 on good layout day

pastel ruin
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yeah, the way you make money in lab will just shift / be less heavy in the gems is all

somber sundial
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What if they added a rage gem tag

frigid wedge
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sorry wtf is the purple buff here

tranquil geyser
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any hidden tip in the the last video?

sick ocean
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Ok, these QOL changes are good, wtf.

lean urchin
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toxic rain?

frigid wedge
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with the 3

opal ingot
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finally.

tranquil sedge
frigid wedge
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the BUFF

lean urchin
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the 3 one is new

pastel ruin
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that's toxic rain with a skin

tranquil sedge
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its just gonna make gem availability a bit higher i reckon
which is good

opal ingot
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i always complained that d4 has it so easy clicking shrines while in poe you keep targetting the monsters XD

tranquil umbra
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that's the mirage

pulsar dune
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gem availability is a good thing ngl

blazing briar
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bro but it seems to not be a mechanic in maps? so probably will be like some sort of outside thing? like kingsmarch/delve/etc?

tranquil sedge
finite quail
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OMG the div card qol buff and favorite trades in faustus is INSANE qol holy fuck

frigid wedge
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sorry let me clarify

cosmic raptor
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Formula 1 starts next week on friday, better than poe1 if you ask me

tranquil sedge
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they deserve those too

edgy acorn
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Guys, can I paste a twitch clip here of poe1?

frigid wedge
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what the fuck is THAT

pulsar dune
hard cliff
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LET'S FUCKING GO

lean urchin
hard cliff
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LET'S FUCKING GO

opal ingot
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someone is getting fired

edgy acorn
hard cliff
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GAME IS SAVED LET'S FUCKING GO

tranquil sedge
potent bramble
tranquil umbra
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I was planning on farming my own blight of contagion gem in lab so this us massive because there are 2 blight transes for some fucking reason

cosmic raptor
frigid wedge
tranquil sedge
narrow yoke
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i have not had issues with a divine shrine mark, ive never seen one before. ty

dusky iron
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where harbi

signal hawk
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I mean transfigured gems were just annoying to farm, glad they changed it

edgy acorn
worldly bridge
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why are we promoting this shit

full kraken
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God I hope GGG fixes the fact currency exchange suddenly changes price ratios on you, thats my #1 issue with it atm

tender horizon
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Someone is gonna try and gamble Mageblood or Mirror Shards and accidentally turn in div cards. They're then going to cry about it 🙁

empty bronze
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getting to choose your transfigured gem is a good change

fickle glen
pulsar dune
hard cliff
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THIS IS INSANE

split maple
empty bronze
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ggg should make lesser shrines be automatically used

hard cliff
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Phrecia and Mercs next vidoe

coral summit
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yo

pulsar dune
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5k wildwood

full kraken
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Im sitting there trying to set my price on it and right when I go to click it very suddenly changes ratio and I sell 20 div instead of 2 div when I click

Stupid poorly implemented ux >_<;

tranquil sedge
pulsar dune
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actually wild

edgy acorn
empty bronze
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mercenaries were boring

coral summit
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if we can get warcry cdr tattoos from fucking campaign

cosmic raptor
coral summit
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I'm actually going to be ultra bricked up

split maple
finite quail
tranquil umbra
split maple
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like DCs are hella common

modern zinc
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NEW POST

tranquil umbra
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and they mentioned that only low level tattoos drop

fickle glen
trim sleet
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LETS GO @rose totem

brazen vector
coral summit
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8% @fickle glen

worldly bridge
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lmao

potent bramble
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I think my only 'complaint' (which isn't even a complaint, just a question) is why leave the button in on the div card menu, if they auto-redeem when you have a full stack. Unless, I guess maybe if people are storing cards in there to build a stack over time?

tender horizon
fickle glen
coral summit
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the warcry cdr tattoos ar normally like 1div each

full kraken
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Is there a build heavily buffed by trans gem update?

I feel like it would've been BAMA if they hadn't ultra nerfed it

brazen vector
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@split maple what to use instead of charlatan

empty bronze
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im surprised it took this long to make shrines have higher priority than monsters

coral summit
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it's nothing until you realize you can stack like, twelve of them

tight plinth
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what are considered low tier tattoos?

coral summit
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instead of useless str passives

frigid wedge
coral summit
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and you have 96% warcry cdr

trim sleet
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thats a meaty teaser ngl

cosmic raptor
narrow yoke
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div card QOL is huge

fickle glen
grizzled lily
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OMG

split maple
coral summit
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They don't eat normal skill points, they replace strength pathing nodes

warped gale
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oh my, these changes are beautiful

coral summit
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so if you're like 150 str over what you need

narrow yoke
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im not sure the campaign rooms after 50+ runs will be that appealing

coral summit
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you just start slapping those in on your +10 str nodes

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and that's why they become really op

full kraken
modern zinc
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honestly

runic terrace
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What are "basic" tattoos? I feel like ima be farming them in ssf lol

grizzled lily
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TATTOO FARMING

fickle glen
grizzled lily
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OMGG

modern zinc
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those qol are nice but I expected more

full kraken
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You can get like 3 quicksilvers asap

brazen vector
coral summit
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nope, those are runegrafts

split maple
gritty epoch
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Click campaign rooms vs finish acts 10min faster

tranquil umbra
narrow yoke
frigid wedge
pastel ruin
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the campaign rooms have more value in SSF, though there's still some that are great in general. free 5 links, the flasks

coral summit
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runegrafts replace masteries, tattoos replace attribute passives

fickle glen
narrow yoke
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yeah the SSF i didnt think of that makes sense

runic terrace
coral summit
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and tukohama warcaller (10 str to 8% warcry cdr) is one of the strongest tattoos

split maple
tranquil geyser
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are we allowed to favorite more than once trade in the currency trade?

warped gale
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I once painfully learned that runegrafts and tattoos have the same maximum number and count as the same, so if you have 1 runegraft, you can only have 49 tattoos

fickle glen
frigid wedge
coral summit
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cuz it means you dont need to take any other sources of warcry cdr on your tree

split maple
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smh that you can hold mouse when laging out, has semi clear, and can hh scale

coral summit
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no deep breaths

finite quail
coral summit
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no natural authority back points

frigid wedge
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lightning arrow autobomber is ideal prob

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if u want smth

brazen vector
crimson spear
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I'm trying to predict what other items will be given through these secret areas. My only guess right now is that there will be one that gives a few pieces of tainted currency.

frigid wedge
slow sonnet
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Oh that's a lot of stuff

pastel ruin
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i bet there's a delve fossil one

split maple
bleak umbra
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The labyrinth enchant change is so huge

crimson spear
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Delve fossil makes a lot of sense

frigid wedge
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interesting question

brazen vector
frigid wedge
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does dark monarch prevent skeletons shrine

split maple
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but like alesia you have plenty of herald tats - just remove charly, equip any random shield

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and clear with hive

pastel ruin
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there's 2 but the only one i remember is at the start of act 4 when you are heading to the eyeball guy *you do a breach and it always drops a 5L

tranquil geyser
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what is this buff?

edgy acorn
stable breach
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man

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lab farmers on suicide watch

runic terrace
hexed mountain
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you're paying 3 points including a socket for worse than you would get by taking the notable for 3 points

pastel ruin
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right there's a breach in the beach zone with the zombie in A6, that drops 5L too

grizzled lily
coral summit
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yeah lab farming is gonna be rough for latecomers to the league now lol

stable breach
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also

grizzled lily
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whats w the sudden hate on my goat

coral summit
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used to be a good way to get starting currency

stable breach
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at 2:23 in the video

split maple
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what do folks have against empy now

stable breach
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new skillgem?

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???

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or is that an mtx im unfamiliar with

crimson spear
pulsar dune
coral summit
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that's just forbidden rite

frigid wedge
cosmic raptor
hexed mountain
frigid wedge
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we dont know

grizzled lily
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yea drama from ulti league

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but this is just hate watching atp

stable breach
tough cove
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div card turn in change is something i always wanted

finite quail
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so its a new skill

frigid wedge
coral summit
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you can link pinpoint to forbidden rite

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which gives it intensity

finite quail
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bro its the intensify border LMAO

frigid wedge
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that aint the pinpoint thing

lean urchin
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could it be (new) breach graft? @frigid wedge because of border

finite quail
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pinpoint doesnt have a buff icon

hexed mountain
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someone about to get angler in the campain and have a heart attack

coral summit
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does it not?

finite quail
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its a new skill supported by intensify

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So its a new spell

coral summit
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does intensify support also not have an icon

frigid wedge
finite quail
bleak umbra
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I like to believe that the majority of these rooms will be found instantly on launch, but like, maybe 1 will be a secret for a week or so. There are definitely some areas that basically no one goes in during the campaign, such as the side paths in Act 6 western forest going toward the riverways, etc

frigid wedge
brazen vector
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@split maple too memey?

finite quail
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Intensify adds the skill icon of the skill you're using to your buff bar

tough cove
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almost certainly. the new rooms were found pretty quick that they added in settlers

split maple
coral summit
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forbidden rite icon

crimson spear
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I think it's "You might miss these when you go through the campaign" secret not "it's a community effort to figure these out" secret

brazen vector
coral summit
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what am i missing

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OH

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This.

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Yeah I have no clue what that is

frigid wedge
bleak umbra
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I know, I just kinda hope they'll add one or two that are actually a bit hard to stumble across

tough cove
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the qol stuff is all great though

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like all genuinely great improveents

bronze falcon
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Oh boy, teaser time!

split maple
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you too

finite quail
coral summit
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it's not self-casted from what it looks like

frigid wedge
coral summit
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not anywhere on the skill bar and can't see what the visible effect is

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interesting setup though, absorption charges

stoic horizon
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login

coral summit
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so that's a power charge stacking char

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...assassin, I think?

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cuz it has elusive going up now and again

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no withering step on the bar

bronze falcon
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Holy QOL

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LOGIN

coral summit
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No clue what this icon is though

finite quail
low lava
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automate i think

frigid wedge
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automation

split maple
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oreo please

coral summit
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ok

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in my defense

low lava
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Damn people are fast

coral summit
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i have NEVER used a build with automation

finite quail
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you will soon enough

bronze falcon
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You're missing out

worthy cave
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Sooo...will we finally see Master distiller not suck in 3.28 ?8(

coral summit
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it's just the autoexertion icon but blue

low lava
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I'm still on the, should i break my break and play this league. Or just wait argh WHY

split maple
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yo Naca did you see what i crafted today

loud geyser
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tattoo drop farm monkaW

coral summit
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but yeah basically all my builds are melee builds either with cwdt immortal call or molten shell

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so i havent used automation on any of em

frigid wedge
stoic horizon
dreamy charm
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pray for buffs to bow skills i want to play ca/tr againe

cobalt blade
loud geyser
split maple
cursive swift
coral summit
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ooh is it automating withering step

cobalt blade
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only got up like 2hrs ago :p

coral summit
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thats gotta be whats going on

desert vector
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Is cross platform trade coming to poe1?

cobalt blade
elfin shale
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Is the teaser any good i cant watch rn

hexed mountain
stoic horizon
frigid wedge
stoic horizon
past mantle
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Wait.

split pagoda
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surely they’re not about to show a slammer in teaser only to not nerf earthshatter like last time around

desert vector
frigid wedge
past mantle
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That wand effect.

bronze falcon
past mantle
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Isn't that new?

finite quail
past mantle
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At 2:09

finite quail
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That's never going to be a thing as long as servers are separated between different platforms

grizzled lily
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is stacked deck farming the move this league

finite quail
desert vector
finite quail
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wait until patchnotes

grizzled lily
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even more people will gamba now

stoic horizon
past mantle
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This wand visual.

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Is that new?

low lava
finite quail
earnest raven
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Its already in poe2

stoic horizon
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and in general making a game with crossplay from ground up is WAAAAAY much easier than adding crossplay to a game without it

desert vector
low lava
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Because is crossplay yeah 😄

cobalt blade
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because your on the same server in 2 its not 1 sony 1 pc 1 xbox servers

low lava
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And adding that to poe will most likely be a super long and expensive task.

earnest raven
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Si

unique fog
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How many faces are on an exalted orb?

finite quail
stoic horizon
earnest raven
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3+

past mantle
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Nah, it's just the crusader one.

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Sadg.

finite quail
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Though poe 1 has been around since 2012-2013 orso

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The codebase and structure is much much older

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Getting cross platform trade would be quite difficult for ggg I assume

earnest raven
finite quail
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Because cross platform trade means cross platform play

gritty epoch
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Wdym? Just download more servers /s

stoic horizon
finite quail
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Unless the market is changed where you dont need to travel to people's servers to buy stuff

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Which I don't really see happening

low lava
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i can see it happening, but not at the moment as they are busy with 2. Getting content ready!

crimson spear
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I believe GGG made their own game engine. So the dates the engine was made, the first private builds of PoE were made, the first public builds of PoE, and the first full release of PoE were all different dates.

gritty epoch
grizzled lily
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will we get new qol videos tomorrow?

finite quail
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ggg's doing teasers differently now

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less teasers but more content in them

earnest raven
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I do miss bexx

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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pretty nice changes

finite quail
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I'd be surprised if we got nothing until the livestream comes around

low lava
cobalt blade
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since they wouldnt wanna delete everyones console char's/items

unique fog
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Is there anywhere that shows the backside of an exalted orb? Im trying to sculpt one

fast hearth
finite quail
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But the stuff that was shown was REALLY big

limber lance
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anyone else a tinyy bit underwhelmed from that video? heard alot of good feedback but idk. Still thankful for the changes

grizzled lily
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are those all the patchnotes?

split maple
grizzled lily
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the qols

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i mean

split maple
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a lot of hard work in that dir already done

grizzled lily
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if so then theyre sleeping on MY qols

cobalt blade
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but yeah fair

gritty epoch
crisp obsidian
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wow that was so many and huge QoL this def was worth the week without teasers

cosmic raptor
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I love poe2

marsh sand
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TOTA BACK MY BELOVED PLSSSS

pliant hamlet
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maybe I'm just too ssf-brained lol

marsh sand
cobalt blade
crisp obsidian
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you sure?

grizzled lily
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i need more

grizzled lily
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MORE

limber lance
cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
grizzled lily
pliant hamlet
split maple
hard cliff
crisp obsidian
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that was so nice of you

cobalt blade
crisp obsidian
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holy

limber lance
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what does the shrin thing mean, didnt quite understand

cobalt blade
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idont think its that massive

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
cobalt blade
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instead of clicking mobs and do nothing die to divine shrine

finite quail
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uh....

unique fog
limber lance
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hella annyoing mechanic, why was it in the game for so lonmg even XD

finite quail
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the elon musk orb

cobalt blade
pliant hamlet
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thanks i hate it lol

finite quail
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the dreaded elon musk orb

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LMAO

unique fog
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I plan to carve one out of wood

fossil path
haughty dirge
unique fog
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Yeah

low lava
unique fog
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It'll be good practice for doing faces

slate field
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Teasers for the teaser trailer. I lowky hate that shit

unique fog
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Ah perfect

hard cliff
gritty epoch
finite quail
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You can spray paint em to make it look golden too

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Wood would look awesome though

hard cliff
finite quail
earnest raven
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Anyone play poker?

native token
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@split maple do we explore the secrets day 1 ?

low lava
somber sundial
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I want a headhunter or mageblood prop

split maple
cobalt blade
native token
low lava
earnest raven
native token
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remember we arnt infected with the brainrot currency/h cancer @split maple

cobalt blade
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ah fair

split maple
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will be nostalgic

native token
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will be pog

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actual enjoy and discover the league

cobalt blade
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if you have to relvl a new char only once per char kinda thing pain

split maple
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whats the behaviour of flask chest rn?

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should be similiar

cobalt blade
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i think single use but even if its not i know the vaal orb one is

split maple
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or maybe that unique secret room thingie

native token
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full roleplay mode

cobalt blade
wraith rock
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I think the surprises throughout campaign will be just like silver chests

split maple
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casie i am already thinking about spaming that on twinked out fresh chars kek

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what act did they say is tats?

cobalt blade
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karui fortress

hexed mountain
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lowkey in ssf if you get a poet's pen farming tats in campain might just be the fastest

thick goblet
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6

cobalt blade
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so 6?

split maple
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a6 fuck

bronze falcon
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Hopefully those secret areas have a better loot pool. Getting a wisdom scroll is gonna feel bad

hexed mountain
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how long does A6 even take with poet's ? 1h?

split maple
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so okay ships it is

split maple
hexed mountain
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probably less since you can skip every quest

unique fog
hexed mountain
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might be able to 40 minutes it

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skip lab

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depending on other rooms

hard cliff
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what did they change about lab

cobalt blade
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but if you can reset thats a lotta tattoos a day

bronze falcon
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I want them to offer that beautiful squidward skin for the div orb. Id buy that

low lava
hexed mountain
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yes , once per 40 mins then

hard cliff
hexed mountain
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if there are other good rooms

hard cliff
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post something you made

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if you want

hexed mountain
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it could be unironically a decent farm at least in ssf if you want tatoos

split maple
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lets make a compromise

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slap it into a3 instead

bronze falcon
bronze falcon
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IH NO HE'S HOOOOT

low lava
hard cliff
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So the transfigured gem changes will make them all much cheaper cause you can target farm it?

tough cove
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with the right setup you might be able to get it down to 30 minutes skipping everything

hard cliff
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I agree with you

bronze falcon
hexed mountain
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it makes uber lab a giga money dispenser

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lots of people still wont want to do lab to farm their gem

low lava
bronze falcon
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Rather run labs than Sekhemas. Fight me

hexed mountain
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sekhema is still more fun than sanctum tho

bronze falcon
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No argument here

hard cliff
hexed mountain
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the non-trans to trans is kinda common in uber especially with 2/3 pulls

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we printing PBoDs

low lava
hexed mountain
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(though PBoD could very well die on patch notes with how strong it has been for so long)

unique fog
hexed mountain
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it doesnt need that much to be viable now tbh (the trans one)

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the refraction runegraft already was a giga buff for it

bronze falcon
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Why it all caked up tho

hexed mountain
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just a bit more damage

mortal veldt
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yo what if they blow up this current atlas and replace it with the poe 2 atlas?

frigid wedge
unique fog
bronze falcon
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Whatever gets me to end game fastest. Atlas is just campaign tutorial 2.0

drifting rain
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When is mirage being released?

unique fog
gritty epoch
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9days

bronze falcon
drifting rain
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Neato

frigid wedge
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on the gif finder

bronze falcon
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post it and let the mods decide

frigid wedge
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fair

stoic horizon
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thats quite tame for how gifs can go

low lava
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i dont even have my pob installed or my 50 builds saved WHY

bronze falcon
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my guy sees the dumptruck hidden within his medium and works tirelessly to release it so the world may enjoy

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chad

wraith rock
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aztiri

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
hard cliff
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lightning tendrils is bait skill, yes?

bronze falcon
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anythings a bait skill if you build it bad enough

low lava
hard cliff
hard cliff
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😭

frigid wedge
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i dont make pobs much and i usually send them somewhere

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when i do

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i usually just grab a few inspirations and throw shit together

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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and then check things in pob if smth feels like an issue

frigid wedge
low lava
true falcon
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I really hope the patch notes are more interesting this league. 3.27 changes were pretty boring

frigid wedge
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i like breaking shit down but tbf, i will always care more about feels than numbers

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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went from bsf to blocking me

low lava
hoary scarab
hard cliff
frigid wedge
true falcon
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The only numbers I care about is seeing that 0.1% usage rate on my chosen main skill for the league

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One day I'll kill an Uber with an unused build

low lava
low lava
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not litarally sell btw..

frigid wedge
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ye i gathered

hoary scarab
frigid wedge
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u gotta market it and pitch the idea to him

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ive done that before

low lava
#

Tho i have been there myself when i started.

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

i did uber rotas for the feared with 11m

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11m pinnacle btw, not 11m uber

true falcon
low lava
frigid wedge
#

nice

cobalt blade
#

or with 5m

frigid wedge
#

yeah

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my impending doom was never good dps

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but it was my baby and it ate shaper slam

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with like, 60% pool left

cobalt blade
#

oh wait you meant 11m pinnacle dps in pob not 11m uber that makes more sense after thinking a bit

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yeah 11m pinnacle is p easy for it

low lava
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

yeye

hoary scarab
true falcon
#

Flame Surge of Combusting seems like it could go well if the league mechanic gives a new source of ignites deal damage faster

frigid wedge
hardy blaze
#

Anybody spot any hints to the league in the qol teaser

fickle glen
#

why does this option keeps reactivating it's self?

cobalt blade
past mantle
#

Usually don't get league things in qol stuff.

tranquil sedge
cobalt blade
#

is i think default keybind to toggle that

fickle glen
frigid wedge
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35 shako

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:3

hardy blaze
cobalt blade
#

35 shako is even more based

stoic horizon
#

why do you want it disabled tho

tranquil sedge
#

chrisThinking Z is the default keybind to hide/show all

cobalt blade
#

get it with faster casting too :3

hardy blaze
#

Im sure there is something hiding in plain sight

low lava
fickle glen
frigid wedge
past mantle
low lava
#

Tho i need to setup my champ dual strike of ambidexterity for this league i guess.

frigid wedge
normal hedge
#

nooooooo fusillade is getting nerfed for sure

cobalt blade
#

as a scion enjoyer everyone should play her :3

mortal veldt
#

bow league confirmed lessgo

cobalt blade
#

no other class is real

bronze falcon
#

How TF did I get roped into doing a company wide presentation... 163 people, lmao

hardy blaze
#

Nothing major, usually an effect or when they hinted tinctures

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Just something off screen

low lava
true falcon
#

They hinted scion is being changed

low lava
#

Will be fun to see.
Maybe another armourstacker incoming >_>

frigid wedge
past mantle
#

We don't know if it's changed or a lich type thing or just an alt asc for it.

split maple
#

is there any wand attack that benefits from slower projs?

frigid wedge
true falcon
#

Blind effect stacker when. Let me reduce enemy accuracy to 0 so I can never die

past mantle
#

I think Scion getting changed to be less good with clusters would cause riots.

cobalt blade
low lava
true falcon
past mantle
cobalt blade
#

yep

split maple
#

but i am thinking about doing a funny

cobalt blade
true falcon
#

Everything being slightly different is difficult

past mantle
#

99.4% spell block and 75% spell dodge on top on glad.

cosmic raptor
past mantle
#

Simple really.

true falcon
#

Oh wait, does spell dodge chance work off accuracy

cobalt blade
#

no

true falcon
#

Boo

cobalt blade
#

spell dodge is only from acrobatics

past mantle
#

Just a static roll to dodge.

cobalt blade
#

(currently i think maybe some niche uniques also have it)

worthy cave
#

and without wildspeaker node, 150% supress is such a high investment

cobalt blade
#

and suppress is also just better

worthy cave
#

40% suprpess is not better than 75% spell dodge sorry

cobalt blade
#

it absolutely is if you have playable max hits

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and recovery

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over 25% chance to get 1 shot

past mantle
#

40% damage supressed is very good.

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One of the best things in the game really.

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God I just remembered recombinators.

worthy cave
#

meanwhile, 75% block/spell block be like "LUL?"

past mantle
#

What an insane mechanic that was.

worthy cave
#

Oh you mean recombinators 1.0?

past mantle
worthy cave
#

3.18 recombinators were a silly thing.

split maple
past mantle
#

Recombos were the strongest crafting mechanic we had.

cobalt blade
past mantle
#

Kinda insane that was allowed to even exist.

hexed mountain
worthy cave
past mantle
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Nah.

worthy cave
#

just not to the utter stupidity of recombinator mutated mechanics

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or being able to transfer suppress to pure ES bases

past mantle
#

Old recombos were entirely a different beast.

worthy cave
#

Oh for sure

elfin shale
#

Oh holy shit the shrine QoL is actually kinda hype

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Gull gaming?

gentle ice
#

oooooh nice lots of good QoL 😱

cobalt blade
worthy cave
#

stacking incursion mods, mutation mechanics, etc.

cobalt blade
#

trivial 6 mod multi influence items kek

past mantle
#

What if I put suppress on ES gear as you said. Or armoru gear.

worthy cave
#

I mean armor gear + suppress is called iron reflexes.

past mantle
#

That's not even that extreme for recombos.

cobalt blade
#

that sure as fuck is a take

gentle ice
#

rain of chaos might be worth picking up 😱

worthy cave
#

Oh, extreme 3.18 recombos were WILD

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remember "socketed gems are supported by lvl 4 enlighten"?

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On gloves?

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With multi-incursion mod stacking?

#

That was an absolute hoot.

cyan elbow
#

is the QoL video all for today?

past mantle
#

God, mutli incursion mods and mutli essences.

past mantle
hoary scarab
#

sentinel is still my top league

elfin shale
true falcon
#

I was excited for a brief moment about trans gem changes, then realized it's only for the specific conversion

cyan elbow
#

lol

split maple
past mantle
#

Sounds like it was a povery league because you were picking up alts.

split maple
#

while rain of chaos sits forgotten in div card stash tab

gentle ice
#

i mean i would probably still not pick up rain of chaos but with that change it won't be a pain to exchange them 😅

cyan elbow
past mantle
#

Skill issue homeboy.

cyan elbow
#

reduced map effect, removal of party bonus from having merc, and flat reduction

#

i'm tired of people reducing the issue of loot as a personal issue rather than a balance one

split maple
#

okay reducing map effect, mod nerfs etc fair point

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but you rly cannot say removal of party bonus from merc is nerf

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that wasnt baseline

cyan elbow
#

i started playing last league

split maple
#

issue isnt that loot is worse than mercs, issue is its worse than settlers lol

elfin shale
past mantle
cyan elbow
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going from there to now, i had my loot triple tapped into the ground

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removal of merc bonus was a nerf

ebon tendon
split maple
#

smh is loss of ground loot, not adjusting to it though

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thats skill issue

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and yea i agree its a shame they nerfed loot

past mantle
#

I like how you say I'm tired of people reducing it to a personal issue and go on to describe how it's a personal issue.

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xdd as they say.

split maple
#

but loss of merc lol isnt part of that

true falcon
#

Merc loot was replaced by tree loot that will be replaced by Wish loot

cyan elbow
#

2/10 ragebait

past mantle
#

Wishing for some loot.

cyan elbow
#

everyone is in agreement loot is an issue

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i guess fubgun is suddenly bad at the game

past mantle
#

Everyone's in agreement after a youtuber told them how to feel.

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xdd

cyan elbow
#

broo???

split maple
#

Flo roads there is confused but has a point

cyan elbow
#

everyone has been saying it's poverty league since the patch notes released

worthy cave
#

I do wonder why "trans gem of your choice" is reserved for sometimes merc lab

split maple
#

like i think you are the only person i know who says loot isnt issue

cyan elbow
#

scroll up to the date of the aptch notes release and loot what people were writing in this channel

worthy cave
#

is it that loot is a big issue only for the mega-juicers, or is there a reason the poors should be ocncerned?

cyan elbow
#

BEFORE any streamer had time to comment

stable breach
#

hm

cyan elbow
#

everyone already knew loot was going to be a problem

worthy cave
#

Because the poors can just do basic Harvest crop rotation and make decent money

gentle ice
#

i think ground loots were fine in phrecia 2.0, might have been because of the extra map mod ( i was at like 8 raw div around the same point i got my 1st one in keepers)
but i really hated loots in keepers

cyan elbow
#

phrecia was fine

worthy cave
#

I feel like we've gotten so accustomed to getting all our loot from the content we pick on the tree

main osprey
#

ground loot in phrecia was better because every single map had free risk scarabs

gentle ice
#

it's a problem for the poors that cannot / do not do really high juiced content actually 🤔 since you can't drop any currency

cyan elbow
#

but it effectively had 2 risk scarabs in every map without using scarab slots

worthy cave
#

that at this point, why is ground loot even a concern?

sacred bane
#

Theyre finally changing campaign, anyone got a tldr

split maple
past mantle
split maple
#

like nerfs to top end affect bottom end disproportionaly

hard cliff
#

I hope they buff Trickster

stable breach
split maple
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like if tree wasnt blatantly op this league magebloods etc would be pricy af

cyan elbow
stable breach
#

they're adding new shit to the campaign

worthy cave
#

That is an argument I hear, but...isn't that just a different good/different bad?

main osprey
#

because it feels bad running through an entire juiced map and a million trillion monsters die and drop 2 chaos orbs

split maple
#

and that would impact casuals the most

sacred bane
stable breach
#

new side areas and stuff to do

#

probably no quests

#

but i imagine it'd be stuff like the uhhhhhhh

worthy cave
#

Like...less currency's dropping -> costs less chaos to buy something

hard cliff
stable breach
#

the flask chest in the prison for example

gentle ice
# sacred bane Like?

secrets 👀 usually packs of mobs that drops cool stuff during campaign, maybe crafting recipe

stable breach
#

that gives quicksilver/bismuth flasks

main osprey
#

or the gem room in chamber of sins

stable breach
#

stuff like that

sacred bane
#

Ah thanks

stable breach
#

things that are key for leveling

elfin shale
#

Imagine you get a suppress tattoo in campaign

stable breach
#

maybe like guaranteed 4-5 links

past mantle
cobalt blade
worthy cave
split maple
cyan elbow
#

the game is simply less fun with getting loot from tree and less loot from juicing maps

worthy cave
#

true

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IMO you shoudln't even be pulling tree for currency unless they remove blood

main osprey
#

tree is fucking pure ass

worthy cave
#

I.E. you just put in the wombat and get your reward

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ehhhhhh I like tree for uniques

cobalt blade
worthy cave
#

2x foulborn are awesome

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oh right

true falcon
#

Tree uniques fun

worthy cave
#

foulborn exalts, never saw one

split maple
#

fbl exes are rly common ilya

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did you even use like 20 lavishes

worthy cave
#

got a foulborn instinct but burned out before my 2nd build

cobalt blade
#

they feel more common than div from the tree to me but not by much

worthy cave
#

I really like the rare crafting tho

sacred bane
worthy cave
#

some things are crapshoots, but it prints RF boots so well

gentle ice
#

maybe you didn't had tree spec properly 😅 , i got like at least 5 foulborn exalt and i've not played that much with the tree

cyan elbow
#

Tree specifically also broke many of the simpler entry level farming methods. Essence prices were much lower than previous leagues due to their use cases early in the league being supplanted by tree

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harbys were less profit due to tree making freactures more accessible

cobalt blade
#

yea i hate that it destroyed harbies already shit profits kek

#

your just gambling for mirror shards/mirror proc

past mantle
# split maple like i think you are the only person i know who says loot isnt issue

Not even what I'm saying. I think Jiji brought up a good point about loot from mechanics that you don't juice being worthless. I agree with keeping Alva evo shrines from last league staying as a juice mechanic for end game. I also think party play should get rewarded more than solo play. Things like that. I got no time for "waah waah where ground loot" however. templarthumbsup

cyan elbow
#

beyond was less profitable due to 6 links from tree

cyan elbow
#

tree killed all farms, and reduced to game to pulling the slot machine on tree and managing your mappers and shippers in kingsmarch

gentle ice
#

everything is less profitable because of the tree lol

worthy cave
#

I mean the thing that makes me roll mye yes about ground loot is that the base rare system is just such junk

cyan elbow
#

how is this even a arpg anymore

cobalt blade
worthy cave
#

"Oh look I picked up an imperial claw, it has t7 flat phys, t6 flat cold, +mana, -reqs, and a crap crit mod

cobalt blade
#

tree wasnt that good it reaches the point its not worth running

worthy cave
#

like...get the F outta here

split maple
#

nobody means rare crapo when they say ground loot tho

past mantle
#

Oh another thing I think sucks about ground loot is removing synth items from synth maps.

worthy cave
#

^

main osprey
cyan elbow
#

simply extra profit

main osprey
#

and breach should just drop those foulborn items itself

past mantle
#

Currency, scarabs and uniques mostly.

hard cliff
#

Kings march is cancer

frigid wedge
split maple
#

currencies

worthy cave
#

and I'm saying the rares nad uniques just suck for most people

true falcon
#

How many atlas points would you spend if they added a "all loot drops ID'd" notable

frigid wedge
#

alo esm just make proj gloves

worthy cave
#

you're most likely not gonna be the guy rolling in the t1s and t0s

past mantle
main osprey
#

genuinely no need for the tree to exist if they just actually had the mechanic dropping the items

frigid wedge
#

dont use the shako

worthy cave
#

rares off the ground are hot garbage past what...day 2-3?

low lava
split maple
#

like at the same time ggg is nerfing currency target farms and making them rarer globaly

cobalt blade
split maple
#

i want enough divs to craft thats all

past mantle
#

PoE is just not a pick up rares kind of game.

worthy cave
#

I mean I think tree will be reasonable when you have to invest in it in late maps

true falcon
cobalt blade
#

for currency specifically it just trivializes early gearing

worthy cave
#

I mean without tree

cyan elbow
frigid wedge
#

xD

worthy cave
#

I mean maps is when the gap between rares off the ground and what you need gets the most painful

worthy cave
#

b/c when you're in mud flats, you're level 2, loot is lvl 2

cobalt blade
worthy cave
cyan elbow
#

hyperbolic ofc, you can farm some other stuff but it was simply less profitable this league farming other things since kingsmarch and tree inflated the economy

worthy cave
#

you're keeping track of them?

split maple
#

yes

past mantle
#

PoE1 is take one item and make it good, not run through 800 items and find one that's good.

cobalt blade
#

looot is just so bad that the mediocre afk loot from kingsmarch feels good

worthy cave
#

I keep saying that the actual horrible mod pool in t16s that makes it correct to filter out all rares is the underlying cause

hard cliff
worthy cave
#

the ground loot is just bad.

#

No amount of "but tree" will change that

split maple
sacred bane
worthy cave
#

the ground loot sucks. You don't even have incentives to pick most stuff up and even spend the time to ID it

split maple
#

sorry Ilya real issue is no divs droping when i juice maps

cobalt blade
#

are you basically saying they should add tiered loot from 2

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or heist smart loot

cyan elbow
#

tiered loot could be fun

past mantle
#

Tiered loot wouldn't do anything.

worthy cave
#

If you're SSF yeah then that's an issue

main osprey
past mantle
true falcon
#

I think wishes will be smart loot

worthy cave
#

but this is the part where peopel say "bUt gGg bAlNaceS aRouND SCtrade!"

main osprey
#

and again that just removes all agency from early crafting

cobalt blade
#

its a problem in trade too if your juicing maps and dont drop divs

main osprey
#

and not even crafting but any form of early farming for 6 links and other

split maple
#

like they kiled sanctum, they kiled edifice, so now legit the only divine target farm is cata+inscr ulti which is rly inacesible ||and juiced evo alva but lets ignore that||. on the same time nerfing explciit effect means you dotn randomly get so many divs

worthy cave
#

In other words, if you're not finding divs, you go farm harvest and trade juice for divs

frigid wedge
#

i dont play warframe

split maple
#

like its fine in the end, yea its challenge mode, yea i stil lget divs

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its just feels sad

frigid wedge
#

W H A T

worthy cave
#

no disagreements

split maple
#

and also trade needs div influx and its sad ships are the best src for it due to no effort needed

cobalt blade
split maple
#

and coz casuals in trade dont use divs, supply is big enough

#

but its like rly close to expensive div economy also in trade and that would suck ass since inacesible crafting

frigid wedge
hexed mountain
#

dont let this make you forget that sanctum tomes are litteraly free

low lava
hexed mountain
#

nobody wants them

split maple
#

yea coz sanctum being like less than 1 raw div room per tome is sad so you only do them if you do unique relics

#

and not a lot of folks are into that content enough

#

they make nice dough tho

hard cliff
#

they are bringing back Tota

past mantle
#

They're not. templarthumbsup

frigid wedge
past mantle
#

Tota is in 0.5 however.

hexed mountain
low lava
hexed mountain
#

ms unpopular UHM

frigid wedge
modern jay
#

yo question guys, they said something about trans gems in the new vid but don't we already have the one which gives u guaranteed the gem we want from merc lab + above?

gentle ice
#

making currency with farming/trade is pretty easy, the problem is really the currency ground loot, running 50 maps and not getting a single tink is a problem 😅 and that's what happened to me in keepers that's so boring

onyx adder
split maple
#

like pbod and pb of conduction was a 50-50 to get pbod from pb

onyx adder
#

I think thats a really nice thing for poe to have a little bit of

split maple
split maple
#

i want excuse to run it more

low lava
split maple
#

but like rn i cannot dedicate time to make a build just for it since simply not worth

gentle ice
#

it means pbod will be worth nothing 😏 (it might get nerfed too) so it might be even worst than that

onyx adder
#

U mean like pleb no-unique-relic monkey sanctum?

#

Sure, that probably doesnt hurt

split maple
#

i mean i want 100div to fix my grace roll lets run it for a weekend kinda sanctum

onyx adder
#

Base sanctum is kinda weak atm and it does make tomes worthless

split maple
#

yea its rly rly sad

modern jay
#

time to become no hit sanctum runner and make big bank EZ

tranquil sedge
onyx adder
#

I havent played trade in a minute but last couple ssf leagues i got tabs and tabs of tomes

tranquil sedge
#

they've said in Q&A that sanctum nerfs were done last minute and they need to update it further or something to that effect iirc

#

(and it was done last minute coz reddit)

past mantle
#

Honestly give it the ToA treatment.

onyx adder
#

Because im like hey maybe i'll need divines sometime and then obviously i dont because kingsmarch is such a strong source of pure currency for crafting

tranquil sedge
#

don't say yeet it

onyx adder
#

And also because tome loot is bad

hard cliff
#

it's coming

gentle ice
#

if you want to make tons of currency yeah just run sanctum all day 🤣 (unless it really got nerfed alots), but during settlers i've ran a bunch of sanctum and that's so dumb how much currency you can get out of it

split maple
#

until that alva strat was figured

tranquil sedge
split maple
#

luckily i wasnt forced into fortunate card farm, most folks did that 😛

past mantle
onyx adder
past mantle
#

Relics but per run and you can just really juice things by making them hard.

split maple
onyx adder
#

I was playing ward so shipping was required for literally everything i was doing

#

God i hate kingsmarch im never doing that again

split maple
#

like i leveled harbs from 99-100 in dunes, got i think 8div? 10div? from fortunates in that time

ebon tendon
#

Emperors luck farmers making bank next league 🤑

gentle ice
onyx adder
#

Im just gonna skip ships forever in ssf and just be pathetic and inefficient and too poor to craft

tranquil sedge
#

all nerf, no compensation/reworking

onyx adder
#

Because efficiency doesnt really matter as much in ssf

past mantle
#

Think of like.
Lycia is twice as fast but you get more rewards.
You are locked to a specific movement speed but you get more rewards.
Enemies cannot be stunned or have their action speed reduced but you get more rewards.
Enemies can only be hit from a certain range but you get more rewards.

#

That kind of thing.

tranquil sedge
#

its also coz sanctum was one of the few ways yo target farm raw currency items

#

taking that away without a different replacement kinda sucks

split maple
past mantle
#

Make Sanctum entirely optionally just extremely difficult.

split maple
#

like i needed week or so to get enough to divine my adorned jewels

#

rly wouldnt want to spend more time

hard cliff
frigid wedge
#

why do we always gotta hate on shit that produces raw currency

split maple
#

i like ulti but not that much 😄

tranquil sedge
past mantle
#

Yeah.

tranquil sedge
#

choose-your-own-difficulty is fundamental to poe so that suggestion tracks 😄

onyx adder
past mantle
#

But like actually difficult.

onyx adder
#

And boats and maps and gold management are fun vampires

hexed mountain
#

isnt there already a relic doing that tho

cobalt blade
#

actually sanctum talk reminds me

past mantle
#

Where at a point you can't just build cheese like current tota and you just gotta get better.

past mantle
cobalt blade
#

i hope they add the thing they mentioned adding to sanctum to make it have exclusive loot