1┃general

[mortal veldt]

if overexertion gets nerfed would we play slayer for slams?

[leaden quiver]

yeah

[atomic crane]

Gotta pay 20c per map with good mods

[native token]

Never

[atomic crane]

[leaden quiver]

slayer is op op

[stoic horizon]

slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[atomic crane]

But ground loot is so bad anyway that running white maps feels the same just no gold

[native token]

Slayer is currently beyond dog for slams if you compare it with Berserker

[potent bramble]

Unless you're playing SSF, you should legit try that this league. It only has one 'essential' unique, Whispers of Infinity

[stoic horizon]

slayer is more of strike starter now yeah

[hard cliff]

is that ci witch?

[native token]

I dont mind the ground loot. Feels fine for myself

[atomic crane]

I don't see any loot

[tranquil umbra]

CI Occultist

[split maple]

yess miss ssf mageblood in a weekend

[atomic crane]

I just do harbies for the shards loot where

[hard cliff]

[split maple]

most folks dont rush 1k fortresses in a day cassie 😄

[native token]

Skill issuen

[atomic crane]

I may drop a div once a day

[tight plinth]

tingzhii, can you feel the teasers coming?

[atomic crane]

But most of the money is from specific drops

[split maple]

did you come do evo alvaing

[prime hill]

(o)>

[atomic crane]

Harvest juice or harbies shards

[native token]

No taking break till patchnotes

[brazen vector]

how do you not disconnect

[split maple]

you bail out at 20k kills

[native token]

I'm still damaged from my tradememe experience in phericia

[brazen vector]

yea, realms say no to that

[potent bramble]

Yer, Occultist. But you get to go crazy far left and right on the tree - Right to the +1 power charge node by Shadow start, and also left to both Sanctum of Thought and Glancing Blows in the Templar wedge

[split maple]

phasing helps me get to exit usually

[native token]

I dont get it how people enjoy the game with async cheating

[potent bramble]

You really only take things from Witch if it happens to be on the path

[split maple]

maybe try frite to suicide?

idk

[tranquil umbra]

you don't need glancing blows on the tree

[brazen vector]

ooh

[split maple]

i didnt try myself tho

[tranquil umbra]

you can use Aegis Aurora

[split maple]

phasing is enough for me

[brazen vector]

I reached level 100 yesterday, so might try that

[potent bramble]

I was just going by the most recent PoB I had found, wouldn't surprise me if it can be optimized

[tranquil umbra]

yeah you just use Aegis Aurora

saves a lot of points

[atomic crane]

CI occultist you spin2win

Fast af when you get mageblood

Tanky af too

[stoic horizon]

megabald

[tranquil umbra]

what isn't fast af after megablood

[tranquil sedge]

if you use aegis for recovery on block, you can also consider foulborn surrender

[hard cliff]

I got to look into it sometime. I really want to play a chaos inoculation character sometime while energy Shield is still super busted.

[dense rock]

cyclone 😄

[fossil mural]

literally p2w

[tranquil umbra]

you use aegis because it gets both recover es on block and just grants glancing blows

[split maple]

i use deli metre to know when to bail instead

[atomic crane]

Well you don't have to cast since you are just holding cyclone

[split maple]

but kinda not reliable

[hard cliff]

Dumb question but do you travel the whole map with Cyclone on or do you just use it as a short range trigger for mobs

[split maple]

yea it feels icky p2w

[tranquil sedge]

wat

[stoic horizon]

palsteron is already testing ballista leaguestarts

[atomic crane]

Cyclone spam with frost blink xd

[tranquil umbra]

reread it

[atomic crane]

Just spinning all the time

[tranquil sedge]

hahah

[hard cliff]

Frost Blink

[tranquil sedge]

but where did you get the glancing blows part from

[tranquil umbra]

it's

[potent bramble]

I think FRoSS is easily the most comfortable/smooth build I've played recently. Frostbearer Spectres is also strong af but you get a lot less control

[tranquil umbra]

on the shield

[dense rock]

cyclone CoC flicker strike my darling

[blazing spear]

eww

[tranquil umbra]

wait

[tranquil sedge]

sir

[tranquil umbra]

hmmge

[tranquil sedge]

[dense rock]

😄

[atomic crane]

Or flame dash

[brazen vector]

Glancing Blows isnt on aegis aurora

[dense rock]

flame dash needs spell echo to meme it enough

[tranquil umbra]

I swear you get glancing blows from equipment

[tranquil sedge]

here's aegis and surrender
foulborn surrender has recover es on block

[hard cliff]

No no no no

[potent bramble]

I just use Cyclone to travel the whole map and frostblink across gaps. You can use The Stampede for a while (until you have mageblood, or enough sources of increased move speed to counter Cyclone of Tummult)

[hard cliff]

why tumultuous

[tranquil umbra]

oh I remembered
you use Aegis to cap max res with melding

[dense rock]

250-500 life vs 2% of ARMOR as ES "hmmm"

[opal ingot]

and getting them nerfed? XD

[hard cliff]

500 life on block is crazy

[blazing spear]

glancing blows is aids

[tranquil sedge]

sir re-read my message

foulborn surrender has recover es on block

[split maple]

300-650 es actually

[potent bramble]

Attack speed, IIRC, but it'll work with regular Cyclone too

[prime hill]

aegis my belowed

[tranquil sedge]

im not saying its better than aegis
im saying its an alternative

[split maple]

so equivalent of 30k armor

[brazen vector]

2% of armor as ES is pretty huge

[split maple]

so under 30k armor superior, above worse

[tranquil umbra]

ok yeah I was tweaking out it seems

you just allocate it normally

[tranquil sedge]

in real use though* i'd put the threshold lower than that, coz aegis also gives some max es

and the +5% max cold res too

[split maple]

yea just for recovert

[gritty epoch]

https://pobb.in/Eeu3SGLEE2c2

[atomic crane]

I found this old vid

Spinny

[tranquil umbra]

Tumult is worse than regular for coc because it has variable aspd and movement speed

[spice pecan]

you can use the blight boots

[brazen vector]

cringe on an ES build

[blazing briar]

Hey, GGG! I know is a lot of work and I understand that, but do you think is possible, as tiresome as it may sound, to release the QoL video? Thank you for all your hard work and wish you a great time!

[tranquil umbra]

why would I gimp my setup to fit tumult

[tranquil sedge]

make a post on reddit saying you are going to sleep

then go to sleep

they will post it after you do that

[potent bramble]

https://pobb.in/H4Y6ZP5RuD4G This is the one that I used, looks like it did in fact just use basic Cyclone

[blazing briar]

is 5pm tho

[tranquil sedge]

take one for the team

50% of the time, this works every time

[opal ingot]

whats iwth the mines?

[gritty epoch]

Pop abyss box

[opal ingot]

oh

damn i can't believe that works

[potent bramble]

Pretty sure I shared it pre-set to the mirror-tier setup, but it's got layers all the way down to pre-Mageblood

[opal ingot]

i had to use unearth and shit

[atomic crane]

OwO

Es is so op

[stoic horizon]

well he runs kinetic fullisade so prob

[atomic crane]

Although I felt tankier on zenith

[tranquil umbra]

that's like the point with zenith

[opal ingot]

he gonna get it sniped like his power siphon of the archmage ballista build

tell him to stop testing

and say it is bad

[prime hill]

okay im posting and going to sleep

6:30 pm

[signal hawk]

I wanted to try KF but got too lazy

[atomic crane]

Best I had was a 1 mirror zenith

Hoping for more this time

[tranquil umbra]

1 mirror is more than I earned the entire league

[fickle glen]

@tranquil sedge you gonna hook a brother up with some uniques to help me lvl up in standard mode?

[tranquil sedge]

zenith is super squishy for how much you put into it tbh

until you swap to sublime

[gritty epoch]

Teaser already released
It's the dev interview post

[tranquil sedge]

and by then ur multiple mirrors in

[blazing briar]

guys, do you think is reasonable to believe that they resurrected Hexblast and reverted the changes?

[atomic crane]

Idk felt so tanky

[tranquil sedge]

they're referring to a post made by ggg staff on reddit

[prime hill]

HAHAHAHAHA

[atomic crane]

With mageblood

Triple res flasks

[brazen vector]

embed please

[signal hawk]

no

[tranquil sedge]

they said they'd be putting out a teaser video

[normal hedge]

virus

[prime hill]

did they unfuck coc dd yet I haven't checked it

[brazen vector]

[fossil mural]

just play the 1/3 damage hexblast

[blazing briar]

you mean the one without time constraint?

but it has no damage against curses man

it sucks

[fossil mural]

also why does hexblast have 4% crit

LMAO

[signal hawk]

teasers gonna show they will go back to shaper/elder atlas influences, get ready to move blobs

[fossil mural]

yea, its 1/3 of damage

actually its a bit more I think? since havoc has higher base

[tranquil umbra]

they are gonna be removing scarabs

[tranquil sedge]

depends on what you consider tanky i guess
msoz is fun and high dps and pretty zoomy but its relative tankiness is pretty low till very very high investment

https://pobb.in/TG5aMMQvPnSD

here's mine from 3.26, i never reached the point of sublime swap, and it has respectable max hits and recovery, but it still felt squishy lol

edit: ignore the dps number i dont know anymore

[fossil mural]

and add tablets

[tranquil umbra]

no

[signal hawk]

sextants will be back don't worry

[prime hill]

add tablets and sextants

[tranquil umbra]

they will add precursor towers

[prime hill]

together

[still wing]

noooo my bug collection!!! 😭 🪲

[blazing spear]

i play zenith btw 😎

[dense rock]

rework ALL league specific mechanics in to alch n go playstyle

[tranquil sedge]

its still a giga fun build tho

[prime hill]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-are-asleep-fish-post-fish-mods-are-asleep-post-fish-gif-8826638656629766392

[fossil mural]

hey ugh

whatcha doing

[stoic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-silly-goofy-top-text-gif-8766571965937312269

[fossil mural]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-silly-goofy-top-text-gif-8766571965937312269

[blazing spear]

what? zenith?

[tranquil sedge]

yah

[blazing briar]

i mean, is just so empty, wish at least they would change the quality, now it has base radius increase, but i think they could make it better

[tranquil sedge]

but it shines at high investment

at low investment more fun to play other things i think

[blazing spear]

so true bestie

[fossil mural]

believe

[atomic crane]

https://pobb.in/Qo0RNBFK5TNv

This was mine

[split maple]

zenith is kinda rly bad on the investment needed to outperform 20d earthshatter bers metric

[atomic crane]

Not sure at what point

[blazing spear]

i am aware

[atomic crane]

It's the only link i could find

[blazing briar]

but much fun tho

[blazing spear]

if you can pump 250d in it, it becomes awesome

[dense rock]

is that silly little circle aoe that slaps curses on enemies and kills them still viable league starter?

[split maple]

i enyojed mine in og phrecia

but for sure wouldnt start it again 😄

as lategame project when you have mirrors saved up sure

[tranquil umbra]

what even is this

contagion?

[fossil mural]

bane

I think?

[stoic horizon]

hasnt been for a good while

[tranquil umbra]

does bane even do damage

[fossil mural]

a little

[dense rock]

awww shucks...

[blazing briar]

bro is just 4 in the morning for GGG, damn, that means tonight is the night for video 😭

[fossil mural]

I was thinking of bane

for early exp

but the numbers

the numbers suck

so much

[dense rock]

i think i tried it once when it first came out and it was fun

[tranquil sedge]

nice build

red dream goes so hard lol

[fossil mural]

I wish you could ballista without a bow

[prime hill]

oh I logged in today to help ppl with ubers and I saw foulborn unnatural instict is a mirror now

lol

[fossil mural]

sadge

[split maple]

bloody finally

wish me luck

[atomic crane]

Ya it was fun and tanky

[tranquil sedge]

i was tryna see why you have so much more life than me

your amulet and ring roll life unlike mine, +150 flat there, and red dream for 53% inc carry hard

plus a couple small changes here and there

[blazing spear]

timelines scarab or one item one poofer?

[tranquil sedge]

tho you'd lose the amulet flat life if u upgraded to simplex

[split maple]

item upgrader

[tranquil umbra]

rip megablood

[atomic crane]

Ya dunno that's the best I could pull off in 3.27

I never got farther than this on zenith

[blazing spear]

i got this lmao

[tranquil sedge]

its a very nice pob no doubt

[atomic crane]

I'm hoping to in mirage league

[blazing spear]

on the poofer

[toxic token]

How do people get like over 500 inteligence or other stats is it even possible to get 1500 saw some cosmetic item change when it hit 1500

[tranquil umbra]

you craft bullshit items

[blazing spear]

reeee

[tranquil sedge]

stat stacking is some of the most expensive ways to make a build in this game

[blazing spear]

got to 2.2k str on my zenith char

[tranquil sedge]

you just get intelligence on your gear and your tree and your jewels and lots of multipliers add up to go brrrr

[toxic token]

Daammm whats the stats even do im kinda new,

[split maple]

fixed it lol

[tranquil sedge]

you'll be better served in #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help for new player questions

but strength gives life and phys damage, dex gives accuracy and evasion, int gives mana and energy shield

[toxic token]

Ty a lot

[tranquil sedge]

but stat stacking is well beyond the scope of a new player experience in this game

[atomic crane]

thx i mostly took stuff from conner i think

[tranquil sedge]

realistically early on you'll just try to meet your gear requirements and stuff

[pulsar dune]

not much by default (except int, ES % is good), but you can get stats like 6% increased spell damage per 10 intelligence, which make it go crazy, especially since you can get multiple

[tranquil sedge]

same ;D

im a basic bitch that loves copying builds

[blazing spear]

or 1-80 chaos damage per 50 str

[atomic crane]

i did RF all the way until the swap

[tranquil sedge]

i tweaked it to my preference, but mostly just copying

[tranquil umbra]

yeah don't start with a stat stacker you will regret your decisions when you see the cost of upgrading your gear

[tranquil sedge]

how much did original sin cost in 3.27?

what was the price like?

[pulsar dune]

you can play icestorm intstack from acts to ubers if you lock in a bit

[atomic crane]

it was so expensive that i could never dream of it

xd

[tranquil sedge]

no i mean did it peak at a mirror/thereabouts

or keep going higher

[blazing spear]

at 1m

[tranquil sedge]

interesting

[atomic crane]

higher im pretty sure

[tranquil sedge]

ill go look at poe.ninja ig

anyway my point was if you gonna play another zenith build in 3.28 and you want to push it more this time

you can consider trying to grind for an osin in the first 2-3 weeks if you have that kind of playtime

before it reaches its price cap

[blazing spear]

i will not play zenith in 3.28

it will be my pet project on std

[tranquil sedge]

i was mainly directing that at jus

why do you have a new leaf icon

[atomic crane]

no i play it casually rlly xd

[tranquil sedge]

i thought you were in this server since forever heck

[atomic crane]

plus i do harbies and stuff like that not that rich

[blazing spear]

2fa account incident

locked myself out of the other acc

[tranquil sedge]

that zenith build of urs could be farming stuff in t17s tbh

[tranquil sedge]

ouch

[leaden quiver]

Its very cheap early

Just take time off and chill xd

In poo1

[blazing spear]

asked discord to delete it

[atomic crane]

yea i did try but that was late into the league

it was like 2 weeks before poe 2

[tranquil sedge]

o

[atomic crane]

so i quit before i could do more

[leaden quiver]

Og sin overrated anyway

Just use lycia and foulborn jewel

Ezclap

[atomic crane]

thats why im hoping to do more this time since we got 2 months now instead of 1

[blazing spear]

nope

imagine losing 1 asc node and a jewel socket in exchange for a ring

cringe

[tranquil sedge]

also

i notice you didn't forget to upgrade your gems to 21/20, etc. which is great

but because of how msoz works, 21/23 is worth buying at some point in your upgrade cycle

[blazing spear]

in league, you have to run nimis

[tranquil sedge]

it'll be very expensive for a single gem but relative %dps increase is justified as your overall build value goes up

[leaden quiver]

Nimis + other ring

[leaden quiver]

1 min video

[blazing spear]

imo simplex, awa multi and nimis are required for zenith

[leaden quiver]

Only qol is loot vacuum

1000 upvoted

[tranquil sedge]

none of those are required

[leaden quiver]

Why awa multi

[tranquil sedge]

returning proj, synth amulet and normal multi work jut fine

[stoic horizon]

10 min

[blazing spear]

returning proj is trash

it's doo doo shit

[tranquil sedge]

woke multi is really good for zenith to increase aps and lower mana cost per second

i mean
im not saying i'd wanna use returning proj if i had a better option

but zenith's dps can overcome the downside

• you make up for some of it by slapping in a temporary str stacking ring

[blazing spear]

you run a warlord helical

warlord hunter

[tranquil sedge]

other ring ye
i was saying if u can't afford nimis yet

its not a deal breaker to play zenith if u want to play iyt

but then i probably have other questions about the rest of your build budget LOL

[fossil mural]

what are some easy ways to restore es day 1?

[blazing spear]

i ran zenith with returning proj, and it felt aids

[tranquil umbra]

recover es on block shields

[stoic horizon]

mr president, another ground loot vid has hit the youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZlGNH6aa0

[blazing spear]

it had mb, and the rest of the gear was worth 50d summed up

[fossil mural]

what is it now? 15th video?

[stoic horizon]

prob

[atomic crane]

i did that before nimis too

[steel light]

in a day?

[fossil mural]

everyone chashing in on the hype

[fossil mural]

2 days or so

[atomic crane]

it feels way worse y a xd

[blazing spear]

in league, you run nimis and osin and get chanced warlord crown of eyes

[fossil mural]

there is nothing in the game thats like "recoup prevented damage" right

for block

[blazing spear]

aegis

[fossil mural]

that aint it

[tranquil sedge]

recover on block is a common recovery layer for builds with sufficient block chance

[fossil mural]

ive 99 block xdd

the issue is to find such a source

[tranquil sedge]

...aegis, surrender, any shaper shield

[blazing spear]

do recover on block or aegis

[tranquil sedge]

and whatever else i am forgetting

[fossil mural]

doesnt work for me

[tranquil umbra]

he's on svalinn pretty sure

[fossil mural]

it has to be azadi

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[tranquil umbra]

oh azadi

[tranquil sedge]

then i was gonna say that notable on tree LOL

[blazing spear]

oh azadi

[fossil mural]

life max hit isnt enough

I am thinking going es as well

[hoary scarab]

just dont get hit

[fossil mural]

but I need a way to recover it

[tranquil sedge]

i dunno any other sources

i feel like thats the tradeoff designed into this

[hoary scarab]

isnt the usual way to just use viridis unlucky dmg for the first hit

[fossil mural]

I was thinking of maybe finding a way to like slow mobs a lot

with maim and hinder

havent looked much into it

current strategy is to just block everything

[dense rock]

temp chains aura?

[mental violet]

Is today the day we might here about ground loot or just teasers for the league

[hoary scarab]

i can tell ya, just azadi itself with some max block is enough to feel invincible already

[fossil mural]

exp mobs are like always curse immune

supper common mod

[fossil mural]

if I also had the damage

maybe

but rares often are left alive

[tranquil umbra]

Occultist smile

[fossil mural]

even after getting exploded in their face

[dense rock]

imagine being unable to curse curse immune mobs 😄

[fossil mural]

with glad explode

[dense rock]

pleb

[hoary scarab]

time to use poison pbod with it

[fossil mural]

hit based stuff is pretty bad

since the avoid damage from hits mod

is common too

I saw some blight of contagion

but the only showcase for juiced exp for it is with foulborn rathpith

on bog

with like 15k hp

day 2

[hard cliff]

well bog is going core this next league

[tranquil umbra]

biggest cope yet

[fossil mural]

second only to scav

going core

[hoary scarab]

bog is already core

[fossil mural]

first apostate appeared

4 days into league

in keepers

on trade anyway

[hoary scarab]

well yeah cause its an uber venarius drop

[tranquil umbra]

when did first nebulis drop

[fossil mural]

2nd or 3rd day? hard to say

[grand flint]

cant wait for new league twin

[tranquil umbra]

I do like how the flavor text of replica nebulis tells you how to make full use of it

[hard cliff]

bog dress

[hard cliff]

what the fuck

[dense rock]

i cant decide what to league start with... Help me come up with comfy af meme build

[tranquil umbra]

rf

[heady cliff]

occultist anything with scaled curses

[dense rock]

was thinking something chaos and/or curse occultisty

[heady cliff]

preferably cold

for high chill + temporal chains, very meme

[tranquil umbra]

BoC Occultist trust

[modern zinc]

play death's oath

[dense rock]

BIG bonus points for fancy skill effect mtx

[tawdry olive]

rf pathfinder, and you counteract the RF damage through flask recovery

[heady cliff]

death's oath is a bit too meme

[modern zinc]

it's viable in 3.27

I saw a dude doing 2m dps with it

[heady cliff]

i played it in 3.27

[dense rock]

fucking whoop 😄

[silver geyser]

Haven't tried POE2 yet. POE1 is my favorite ARPG of all time. Despite positive reviews, I'm fairly jaded about ARPG sequels given D3 and D4 debacles.

Haven't played in a year or so. If I jump in, should I stick with what I know is great? My gut tells me POE1 is the move. The little I know about 2 sounds less appealing - the dodge mechanic sounds overly important; I can't fathom a better end game experience; the trade and currency of POE1 seems unassailable with the decade of iteration and league mechanics; I actually like skill gems and links...

What are y'all's thoughts?

[split maple]

there are a lot of definitions of viable

[heady cliff]

explosions are very funny but actual dps is less so

[dense rock]

2m dps is next to nothing, aint it? 😄

[steel light]

just get your feet wet again, new league in 6th march

[tranquil umbra]

^

[modern zinc]

just play poe2 right now and see how you feel about it

poe1 league is dead anyway

I tried and didn't like it

but it might differ 4 u

[tranquil umbra]

PoE2 and PoE1 are very different experiences I will say

[modern zinc]

a lot of ppl love it

[silver geyser]

Mid March is when I would have time

[steel light]

traitor

[tranquil umbra]

problem with poe2 rn is that if you aren't playing an es build you are inherently playing it wrong

[blazing spear]

my parents took away my laptop

[steel light]

also new league announcement video in 2 days, just use the next few weeks to mess around both poe1 and poe2 to get a better feel

[blazing spear]

so no w1

this means i can scavenge a guy's setup if i win a giveaway on g1 and attempt to create a blade trap char

[gritty epoch]

Where teasers

[fossil mural]

doesnt work in exp btw

[blazing spear]

i want to do fatal flourish blade trap

champ, slayer or glad?

[tranquil umbra]

yes curse immune is more advanced compared to hexproof

[tranquil umbra]

Slayer for Impact surely

[tawdry olive]

after we go to sleep

[dense rock]

irrelevant league mechanic anyway 😄

[gritty epoch]

Go to sleep rn sir

[tawdry olive]

no u

[fossil mural]

not day 1-2 sadge

bruh azadi needs 150 dex

[dense rock]

its closer to the tier of "touch if absolutely bored and dont have anything else to do"

[tawdry olive]

on day 1 everyone loved the mechanic tbh

including me

yes even the walls

.... it didnt last

[potent bramble]

I still don't fully understand what people mean by 'the walls'

The ones in the ground encounter, or the ones when you climb the tower and go on the offensive

[peak heron]

breach has walls surrounding it that prevent you from accessing other areas of the map if you dont do the breach

[lilac parcel]

look at here

[tawdry olive]

they are mostly referring to the in map ground defense, not the hive fortress, because the former is unavoidable

its simple, on day 1 most people are slow ass mf, the walls barely mattered

but once you start zooming at mach speed

[fossil mural]

any walls

[tawdry olive]

every wall you run into is a very abrupt slowdown

[fossil mural]

the purple ones

that cover like

1/3 of a map

[potent bramble]

I nevre experienced that - as long as you have a graft equipped, they auto-destroy if you're within a certain radius. And you don't have to do the encounter to walk past them

Though admittedly, I've never been a particularly zoom-y player

[normal hedge]

i dont see how someone could ever be neutral/happy about walls

lol

[peak heron]

me either when most streamers and players on forums bitched about it the whole league

[steel light]

magas, when they build a wall and make mexicans pay for it

[tranquil umbra]

I am happy about walls because I get to see people mald

[dense rock]

same energy as being happy about getting to click random doors open while mapping...

[peak heron]

it ruined speedrunning in acts slowing it down i should say

[normal hedge]

nah that doenst matter after day 1

[steel light]

lies, i just did theatre of lies and have to click doors

[normal hedge]

your issue for not doing it day 1

[tawdry olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rcz8rl/700_hours_never_killed_shaper_elder_or_maven/
i mean players like this exist, a lot of people just chillin

[lilac parcel]

you have steam?

[tawdry olive]

nothing wrong with it tbh

[steel light]

that's me, until this league

[cursive swift]

This was me for the longest time hah

[lilac parcel]

you have steam >

[peak heron]

think thats the thing about poe the game is easy to play as a casual but if you really want to do crazy content or make crazy currency you have to have a deep understanding of how things work in the game like crafting or running strats

[tawdry olive]

i play on steam, is that relevant?

[hard cliff]

steam bros

[lilac parcel]

go and look at the achivments in poe 1

only 13.3 %

[normal hedge]

whats wrong with it

people dont like totems, thats fine

[lilac parcel]

poe is a game so hard with such a high learning curve not even 20% of the starter players end up in the long run

[peak heron]

golems have a higher % (im guessing)

[potent bramble]

It's also a misleading percentage, because that's of all players who have ever downloaded the game on steam. Even if they've never actually launched it - and since it's free, plenty of people will download it just to inflate their libraries

[lilac parcel]

only 6.5 killed eater of souls

[tawdry olive]

i used to be on standalone, i remember everyone was saying steam was ass because it got updates later

then suddenly that wasnt a thing anymore

[cursive swift]

Most people just copy builds that's either meta or easy to make and I guess doesn't involve totems as much?

Unless u make PoEGuy builds haha

The totem guyu

[potent bramble]

Likewise anyone who downloaded it, tried it and quit before they finished act 1, just because it wasn't their style of game

[lilac parcel]

3%

[fossil mural]

maven was killed by 2.8% of people who ever launched poe even once

[spice pecan]

I need a new spell totem build to league start tbh

[fossil mural]

2.8% of launches

[tight plinth]

no youtube i do not want to watch people talk about ground loot and kingsmarch

[lilac parcel]

okay so most of them

[dense rock]

JRE

[fossil mural]

empy doing react slop pog

[tawdry olive]

the litmus test for this is the passive tree
your gut reaction to seeing that tree for the first time is a very strong indicator

[potent bramble]

I wonder if GGG has stats like that on the backend. Like what % of created accounts have done X content, with the ability to filter by certain milestones

[cosmic raptor]

Grok is this true

[potent bramble]

Like "What % of players who finished Act 5 completed the Atlas" or w/e

[hard cliff]

played early path of exile. I don't specifically remember that but I do remember this game in particular used to have such a notorious issue with unpacking or something regarding downloading the update. It would take like three times longer than any other game to install a big update

[steel light]

was diablo 3/4 groundloots bad?

[fossil mural]

Grok, how many people who finished atlas completed act 5

[hard cliff]

put on that Joey Diaz for us brother

[dense rock]

pretty sure atleast 75% of all time players have never reached maps

[fossil mural]

players as in who

because

you need to establish

who this player is

[cosmic raptor]

Me

[fossil mural]

you are bald

[cosmic raptor]

Megabald

[hard cliff]

You've got a filter out like people who have played for like 3 hours and quit. It's a free game you're going to get a lot of demos.

[fossil mural]

agent 007

[tawdry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shining-gif-25596284

[solid stratus]

I remember when I first started poe1, I saw that passive tree when I got my first levelup and I was like 'whoa, cool, ok let's see where i am and what i can do'

[fossil mural]

agent bald

[cosmic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-steak-roast-beef-tony-soprano-throw-at-head-gif-9709497849516632466

[fossil mural]

well I wouldnt eat that piece of meat either

it looks raw and undercooked

[hard cliff]

the start of a legend

[cosmic raptor]

They didn't eat it

[fossil mural]

you are correct

[lilac parcel]

no i dotn think its that , the game is just way to hard almost nothing is explained in it ? it needs hundreds and hundreds of hours of studying and understand , maths and english

[cosmic raptor]

I would

[stuck phoenix]

Not really no

[dense rock]

💀

[fossil mural]

only 7.1% of players killed 500 demos

yea, tf2 is a very complex game

[stuck phoenix]

That's genuinely a gross exaggeration

[stuck phoenix]

Free game do be like that

[gritty epoch]

Building a house in terraria is harder

[peak heron]

can watch a 3 hour youtube vid on how to craft and be top 10% of people

[lilac parcel]

i think you all live in a bubble

[dense rock]

can watch the video. Having the currency to actually craft anything is a whole new beast 😄

[lilac parcel]

95% of the players of gamign players play very simple games, poe 1 is very top autistic Niche game , shooting sports , conter etc ,

you either live in a bubble or just are like 16 years old propably talking with kids :))

[hard cliff]

hello

[hard cliff]

I've done this

[tight plinth]

[dense rock]

welcome to the 6% of playerbase 😄

[gritty epoch]

U gotta rmb in this time and age games will spam you quest markers, yapping about the most obvious puzzle clues, constantly remind you how to choose between two nodes and tutorials on how to walk

[fossil mural]

steam playerbase*

[tranquil umbra]

let's be real

[dense rock]

welcome to 7% of playerbase*

[gritty epoch]

So in a sense Poe is "hard"

[hard cliff]

My two big accomplishments this league both on eblade were defeating the maven for the first time and first time clearing simulacrum

[dense rock]

Poe is not hard, poe is time consuming

[tranquil umbra]

which new player is downloading the individual client

[dense rock]

you grossly underestimate the stupidity of average gaymer

[hard cliff]

I may be stupid but I'm very clean

[gritty epoch]

My point was ppl were used to tutorials on how to walk etc and u throw them Poe passives

[dense rock]

Pretty sure 90% of even this discords members couldnt reach red tier maps on a build of their own making

[tranquil umbra]

I saw someone struggle in portal's first level

I lost faith at that moment

[lilac parcel]

this

[dense rock]

average cod fanboy

[cosmic raptor]

You think

[tight plinth]

you can reach red maps with any skill with res gear. once you followed a guide its pretty much the same pathing anyway

[gritty epoch]

Average game journalist

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/EIM3pgmQw8FJ

if we are allowing trade I could def get this to yellow maps. Ugly diy build but still got deeps

[past mantle]

Okay but what if I play lightning strike for the 19th time?

Have you considered that this will let me experience all the game has to offer?

[dense rock]

irrelevant

just copying and slightly altering a FOTM build doesnt mean you did it on a build of your own making

[gritty epoch]

My very first successful self-baked build was an EE golem stacking ele hit elementalist wander back in sentinel league with like 5mil DPS

[dense rock]

thats same as buying a car, swapping the tires and calling it fully selfbuild

[past mantle]

Nuh uh. If I did the FOTM build but worse I'm a build maker, pioneer.

[hard cliff]

I do this

[past mantle]

They call me 007.
0 builds made.
0 pinnacles beat.
7 reddit posts about league too hard.

[hard cliff]

you guys think with better gear this could eventually do shaper or sirius?

[gritty epoch]

0/7 godgamer

[tranquil umbra]

I follow build guides because I do not want to bother tinkering in pob

[brazen vector]

[hard cliff]

I think this was for a temp meme league or pohx

I forget

[tranquil umbra]

life is short

[dense rock]

true men dont play with pob, they pick passives and gear as they go

[tranquil umbra]

let me play without becoming a pob warrior

[dense rock]

no plans, just vibes

[gritty epoch]

Shaper yes sirus probably requires a lot of skills

[past mantle]

I haven't planned a build other than really high concept ones that require really exact mechanics to work together in a while.

[stoic horizon]

become a pob mage instead

[past mantle]

I pick a skill and I throw multilpiers at it.

[lilac parcel]

my first characnter

i got to t16s

blight dot chaos witch

[dense rock]

try league starting some build you have played multiple times but this time dont plan it before hand. Just vibe with it as you go and once you hit the wall at late yellow/early red maps, pick up pob and fix that shit 😄

[past mantle]

I do that with new things too anyways.

[dense rock]

thats how i league start these dyas 😄

the 2nd build is the meme master i pob to pristine condition

[past mantle]

I like to feel out whatever I play because pob never gives you the feel of something.

[gritty epoch]

Crackling lance

[past mantle]

Did that not long ago.

[tranquil umbra]

smoking crack mace

[past mantle]

It was okay I guess?

[gritty epoch]

Imo crackling lance looks strong in pob and is actually ass to play

[dense rock]

my first char that killed elder was a arc trapper on a 5link still wearing blue belt and gloves from act2 or someshit 😄

[past mantle]

I did ubers on it if that counts for something but it really was just unpleasant.

If there was any real way to scale the clear part of it I'd play it again.

Trans version that's only the clear part had an issue where the branching started too far from the character so enemies too close would just walk past it.

[grizzled lily]

maybe they will revert spell supp nerfs this peague

prayge

[hard cliff]

my life goal is to do Ubers but I just can't lock in hard enough to go past about 12 div gear pieces

[grizzled lily]

i wanna play something with bows i think

and i hate that its so zdef

[tranquil umbra]

Bleed bow glad

[split maple]

you can do ubers on like 5div slammer tho

[past mantle]

You pick up penance brand and

Slammer might feel comfier on low budget yeah.

[hard cliff]

tempting

is that Tarthus slam that gives you the big ole wave any good?

[split maple]

dude if you doing 5div you doing earthshatter

dont complicate your life

[past mantle]

Anything that lets you take at least 1 hit and recover when you inevitably take it so you can learn the fight.

[grizzled lily]

you can get a build going for even cheaper, where youll only use it for bosses

[tawdry olive]

50 div askdjiowehjruishdf or 5 div earth shatter?

(earthshatter wins)

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/ZirQAUoJVF-F

this was my slammer in pohx league then regular league

[tranquil umbra]

Ice Crash

[past mantle]

Wise oak and taste of hate is crazy.

[normal hedge]

50d earthshatter vs 5d earthshatter

[tranquil umbra]

MSoZ wins that

[hard cliff]

why is taste of hate crazy

[normal hedge]

msoz is ds

[split maple]

i bet on 5d one

[tranquil umbra]

5d doesn't have phys damage light of meaning

[split maple]

i dont trust folks who invest 50d into slammer to be good at builds

[hard cliff]

this was a great build until i got the crit axe and it took over a second took over a second swing it

doesn't matter how much dps I do if I die before i land a hit

prob could have fixed that somewhere though

I dunno

[lilac parcel]

make in craft of exile and ill build it for you instandard

[hard cliff]

besides that it was amazing

[tranquil umbra]

??

[split maple]

you will have hard time crafting light of meaning

oh well applying wisdom scroll technically is using crafting currency

[tawdry olive]

basically craft a nice axe, phys LoM, defiance for comfort, other stuff here and there, reaches about 20-30d, then its time to bail

[grizzled lily]

kaoms primacy is a nice axe aswell

[split maple]

kaoms makes no sense this league

[tranquil umbra]

that was for vfos

[lilac parcel]

oh was thinking its a normal item

[split maple]

it made sense with vfos

due to phys to fire convert builtin into skill

issue is kaoms blocks you from using brutality, which is kinda one of best supports for earthshatter

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/6QJnkPWh5BMS big slammer

[split maple]

and is slow to the point of being uncomfortabl

in league with free 900pdps axes

[tranquil umbra]

I just used uul netol's kiss for that 500% warcry cdr

[hard cliff]

Holy shit

[cosmic raptor]

Need new leg

[lilac parcel]

i hope ggg brings loot back in nexst league

if all streamers are begging

[sand glen]

no loot its all on the boat

[hard cliff]

bro the hidden potential slammer

that is insane

[sand glen]

and that blows ass

[lilac parcel]

i want i raw div a map

[cosmic raptor]

Need loot in poe1 like poe2 temple

[lilac parcel]

1 a map

[cosmic raptor]

200 div per hour or uninstall

[tranquil umbra]

no thanks I like the market stable

[lilac parcel]

no but a comfortable 10-15 for the casual player would be okay

[cosmic raptor]

Your opinion doesn't matter only fubgun's

[lilac parcel]

fubgun has a good opinion

and snap and all

have good opinions

[earnest raven]

Ima miss phat axes

[cosmic raptor]

Holten abusers don't have opinions

[hard cliff]

Holy hell

[peak heron]

fubgun yaps about loot in then in the first week has 3 mirrors

[tranquil umbra]

only fubgun matters
holten abusers don't get an opinion
pick one.

[cosmic raptor]

Week?

Or days

[normal hedge]

that has nothing about ground loot

[cosmic raptor]

You already know it

[sterile depot]

If fubgun only farms 3 mirrors in a week you know ground loot is bad

[peak heron]

it does with him having 3 mirrors how much more money would he have with ground loot

[normal hedge]

you clearly dont know what u're talking about

[tranquil umbra]

who's gonna tell em

[lilac parcel]

tell me

[peak heron]

tbf he does play 10 hour days on start

[somber sundial]

Will ggg actually revert the atlas nerfs

[cosmic raptor]

Noobgun

[somber sundial]

Mmmm

[cosmic raptor]

Probably more

[lilac parcel]

he seem very knowing to me , compared with you

[pulsar dune]

He's near 50 hours, no?

[lilac parcel]

he seemed he knew his stuff to be honest

[somber sundial]

Idk man atlas strats are so dead to me

Why you think I love sims so much

[peak heron]

no he showed his hours last stream he had 105 hours the first week 3.27

[somber sundial]

I don’t have to deal with the atlas tree lol

[cosmic raptor]

He plays 50 hours day one yeah

[pulsar dune]

I assume it's pretty frontloaded, no?

[somber sundial]

Do you have a problem with someone playing nonstop and getting mirrors worth by day 3, that’s not a game side issue, that’s a player playing a lot issue

[tranquil umbra]

that's an unemployment issue

[lilac parcel]

i like how you guys say the game is fine , but when an other one plays 15 hours days , you say game is not fine :))

[somber sundial]

So true

[cosmic raptor]

Game is fine, nerf ground loot again imo

[peak heron]

no but wanting to buff ground loot to drop better items on top of being rich would inflate the market even more

[somber sundial]

I just see it as time investment and efficiency

Yeah I don’t have 1% of that efficiency or time investment

[pulsar dune]

The more telling thing is that fubgun did woke harvest

[somber sundial]

If the top fish are still suffocating, what are the bottom fish getting huh

[lilac parcel]

one chaos and 2 scarabs a map

[peak heron]

if you think 3 mirrors is suffocating how many do you have

[somber sundial]

Yeah exactly

[tranquil umbra]

they should remove divines from the drop pool

[cosmic raptor]

6 7

[somber sundial]

by day 3? I’m still in maps dude but that’s bc I don’t finish campaign in 10 hours

Again, efficiency and time investment

[heady cliff]

sanctum buffs confirmed

[lilac parcel]

3 or 4 kids here are die hard fans of the game , protecting it and defending it to the bone , no matter how illogical is

[peak heron]

people are forgetting you can run strats and make 20 divs an hour with ritual or blight or essance or many other items

which ive TESTED'

[tranquil umbra]

good for you

[past mantle]

Holy.

[somber sundial]

Idk man I’m not a pro at this, at all I just see it as these people are better than me and it shows

[pulsar dune]

Sure, there are many non-ground loot strats that work

[past mantle]

How do you have a persecution complex for someone else?

[somber sundial]

Wot

[pulsar dune]

But the top end is important

[somber sundial]

Extremely true

I don’t know the solution, deadass

I just don’t think it’s good rn

[split maple]

topend has very big economy impact

[pulsar dune]

And currently there really isn't much of a top end (well, Evo alva was found, but outside of that).

[tranquil sedge]

this statement alone makes you look like a clown honestly

[lilac parcel]

i do , 10x quant globaly

[split maple]

like who is going to be impacted by expensive magebloods more

[somber sundial]

Doesn’t everything else shape around it, in some way?

[split maple]

topend or bottomend

[peak heron]

prove me wrong

[tranquil umbra]

the solution is logging off and playing D4 and realize how well off you are in PoE

[tranquil sedge]

like that argument alone is enough to make the rest of whatever you said worthless

[somber sundial]

Bottom by a long shot yeah

[split maple]

and if you nerf generic juicing you make expensive magebloods, which would be a big factor this league if tree wasnt broken

[pulsar dune]

And well, I want top end strats to be strong since it means cheaper divs and magebloods

[peak heron]

ground loot is supposed to feel like garbage since the game is supposed to make you choose a strat like essence or something to farm for money no? if everyone just got a div or more from magic finding i think the same issue with poe2 has is inflation

[split maple]

and like i rly dont want to defend fubby, i kinda dislike the dude, but a lot of comments there seem to be a bit skillchecked

[tranquil sedge]

im not going to shorten the lifespan of my keyboard to explain things to a troll lol

[lilac parcel]

and elter exalt orbs and beasts etc everything

[split maple]

tiles isnt the only thing in game

[tranquil sedge]

im content with just pointing out your stupidity, thats enough to make me happy

[split maple]

and shouldnt be

[pulsar dune]

Ehhh, I don't think thats really GGGs intent

[somber sundial]

Is it possible to compare 3.24 to 3.27 and see how cheapness happened and get some sort of understanding there?

[peak heron]

you cannot debate you dont have enough time played gg

[tranquil sedge]

3.24 was necropolis
did you mean 3.23 affliction?

[pulsar dune]

Those are going to usually get pricier with good global pool items

[lilac parcel]

this game shouldnt be 15 hours days brother , thats not the purpose , we need boost to loot

[tranquil sedge]

3.23 affliction gear was cheap for different reasons than 3.27 gear being cheap

[somber sundial]

Nonon 3.24 Necro, I say it’s cheap bc 1510 edps bow for 20div is cheap, 3.27 is cheap but it feels different

Idk man I’m prob cooked

[pulsar dune]

Since farming them means you're not rolling for the global pool as well

[somber sundial]

Yeeea

[tranquil sedge]

refer to my earlier comments that way i dont have to keep retyping them 😄

[pulsar dune]

necro had a pretty damn high top end

[split maple]

This - better the juicers strats, better the profit in tiles

[somber sundial]

Oh

[split maple]

So buffing juicers helps dads with milion kids

Farming frac orbs

[somber sundial]

I started playing in 3.24 so my knowledge of that time is small

[pulsar dune]

but admittedly I wouldn't really look at necro for economics, that league was fucked in a dozen ways

[lilac parcel]

for me a basic t16 alche and go should give you 1-2 divines 40-60 chaos . and other buble gums

[pulsar dune]

that seems kinda high

[somber sundial]

Fair enough

[peak heron]

im not saying to play 15 hours im saying if ground loot were to be buffed to the levels fub and other streamers want i think more inflation would happen take more for example
what happens to the ecomony if more money is printed things become more expensive so in that context if a div or more were to drop from magic finding

[split maple]

That's high af man

[tranquil sedge]

alch and go doesn't need to give divines every map that would make them worthless

[pulsar dune]

I think the current exarch juicing strats are in a pretty good state

[split maple]

Alch n go exarch altars should cap out on chaoses

[cosmic raptor]

T16? Not even t16.5? Crazy

[somber sundial]

Alch n go is a starter strat to get currency to do better strats is it not

[past mantle]

Will we ever have a league where people don't complain about loot? I think affliction cemented "no" as the answer.

[tranquil sedge]

alch and go at least pre-3.27 was already higher lol

[lilac parcel]

why ? a normal guy does 5-10 maps a day , man , you would have currency for 5 prefix cannot be changed

[tranquil sedge]

yea thats bad

[somber sundial]

[peak heron]

yes alch and go should be done to fill that atlas THEN FARMING

[split maple]

Dude has ships to send anyways

Like its not an issue

[somber sundial]

I have no idea

[split maple]

If you want divs you should juice

[past mantle]

And they have 4 months to play.

[tranquil sedge]

not to mention its fucking stupid to talk about only raw currency drops in alch and go

[split maple]

Issue is rn you have two strats that juice and one is bug

[pulsar dune]

inflation in POE is pretty harshly capped, the issue would be more so that doing anything except MF would be less efficient - even Chad, our resident HO warrior, was MFing in affliction.

[somber sundial]

5-10 maps? You mean like 20 minutes?

[tranquil sedge]

as if things like maps and guardian maps and other things aren't worth money either

[pulsar dune]

but even in affliction, alternate strats did exist

[lilac parcel]

im not thinking of the juicers man , im thinking of the averag joe

[fossil mural]

and it also plays like shit

[tranquil sedge]

average joe can get better
and adding a couple scarabs is hardly juicing

[past mantle]

Average joe ain't gonna suck you off bro, I'm sorry to say.

[tranquil sedge]

if you dont want to get good at the game, you don't get good loot

[tranquil umbra]

if you make divs drop every map you hurt the average joe

[cosmic raptor]

You need megabald

[split maple]

Average Joe sends 20k bzanth to kalgur and is happy with a div

That's ok

[somber sundial]

Magebald

[normal hedge]

tbf it will never be rounded about that kind of player, not only that, it shouldnt anyways

[fossil mural]

its like

37 bald heads

[somber sundial]

Headbald

[tranquil umbra]

HELL YEAH THIS IS WHAT I DO

[peak heron]

yes they are lmao shaper and other maps drop shaper influcned gear which is worth money what are you talking about

[cosmic raptor]

Hell yeah

[tranquil sedge]

seriously what is with this 'i must defend the people who can't defend themselves' whiteknighting bs

[tranquil sedge]

that was my point
to juca, who thinks if ur not dropping raw divs and chaos ur not getting loot

[somber sundial]

How many bald heads are on head hunter I mean headbald

[peak heron]

ment to type to them

[normal hedge]

baldhunter is so good

[fossil mural]

everyone

[somber sundial]

So true

[fossil mural]

everyone thinks if you dont drop raw currency = no loot

[tranquil sedge]

if you drop no raw currency thats a different issue dude

[pulsar dune]

and honestly, giga juicing the global pool being the hardest and most rewarding strat seems fine to me.

[lilac parcel]

its just my opinion , i think everyone should have raw currency to try and craft

[heady cliff]

i was scrolled back 3 hours to read that kingsmarch drama, and when i scroll back to current time...

[tranquil sedge]

why is everything in extremes smh

[heady cliff]

THERE IS NO HIDING

[tranquil sedge]

maybe if they learned to get good

they'd have it

[somber sundial]

MageBlood + Wine of the Prophet vs HeadHunter + Progenesis

[bronze falcon]

Buff ground loot

[split maple]

Man rn I am doing scoured edifice since I need abyss socket donors for recombi and it feels amazeballs in comparison

[fossil mural]

this is what you get pelted with in poe2 chat by normies

[split maple]

No loot but holy performance

[tranquil umbra]

because centrist opinions are gay /s

[tranquil sedge]

juca who is paying you to defend them like is this your job or something lol

[somber sundial]

Buff cleave of fucking rage

[heady cliff]

also wtf with chat today as active as on leaguestart

[pulsar dune]

everyone is anticipating the big teaser

[bronze falcon]

Say something spicy, chat lights up

[tranquil sedge]

the average moron isn't going to get better at the game if u defend them enough

[somber sundial]

Quick chat, scatter

[tranquil umbra]

he plays standard ignore him

[fossil mural]

no raw divs = no loot

[split maple]

Bigass teaser video landing today

[cosmic raptor]

I mentioned fubgun and chat exploded, oops

[lean urchin]

getting close to start so..

[lilac parcel]

nobody , im just thinking of normal people who maybe have 10 hours a week for a game , after all its just a game man

[fossil mural]

average moron doesnt want to get better - he wants to have fun

[somber sundial]

Where’s my patch notes

[fossil mural]

thats why everything is easy and about gambling

[tranquil sedge]

great
if they dont feel like they can progess they can go play something else instead of making suggestions to ruin a game other people play

[somber sundial]

Where’s my rage buff

[cosmic raptor]

Moronblood

[fossil mural]

for big titty goth chicks

[lilac parcel]

average morron gets better in real life brother , not at a game

[somber sundial]

Give me back my game ggg

[peak heron]

ragebaiting the whole time not one senseable agurement was said on your end

[potent bramble]

You have no idea how much I want it to be the tiniest change. Like "Divine orbs and exalted orbs are swapping spots in the currency stash tab"

[split maple]

10h a week is still 160h in league

[pulsar dune]

I do honestly agree that crafting is too expensive, 2 digit div per item are quite rough to learn crafting on.

[fossil mural]

no they dont, they spend their lunch money on zzz

[somber sundial]

[tranquil umbra]

juca told me he could craft me a light of meaning in standard I think that's all you need to know honestly

[zealous idol]

poe website down, maybe something coming

[tranquil sedge]

don't you have some crying to do about fubgun being rich?

[heady cliff]

if only, if only....

[lilac parcel]

yes they do , go look into a mirror and have a deep introsprection you might be amazed who the average morron is

[heady cliff]

real life too hard

[lilac parcel]

we ale average morrons

all

[peak heron]

is it not irony no
someone crying about ground loot being bad when they are already rich ?

[fossil mural]

I make 100k a year brother

[somber sundial]

Me being happy that fubgun has 150 mirrors to spend on alt art headhunter

[bronze falcon]

See what no teasers does to people?!?!

[somber sundial]

Just happy for the guy

[split maple]

Dude fubby did harvest

[lilac parcel]

well you just proved it to us 🙂

without the mirror

[split maple]

If that isn't indikator that ground loot is shite

[tranquil sedge]

are you really this slow or are you a troll

[split maple]

Idk what is

[cosmic raptor]

You can rmt ez pz

[tranquil sedge]

like just how lacking in ability to think do you have to be to have takes this stupid

[somber sundial]

Dude I want you to seriously think, HOW is he getting rich exactly and what is stopping you?

[tranquil sedge]

if fubgun makes 3 mirrors and tells you he's not making a lot of money that should tell you the average andy is also going to have the same problem

[native abyss]

https://klipy.com/gifs/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-1

[tranquil sedge]

like holy shit it doesnt take einstein to work that out

[grizzled lily]

what should i watch while league starting this time?

has anyone watched the machine yet?

[tranquil sedge]

swampletics compilation

[fossil mural]

pink and blue heads trying to convince idiots they are

[split maple]

Especially when he is running harvest instead of juicing lol

[somber sundial]

Exactly

[grizzled lily]

heard its really good

[split maple]

Map blaster degraded to farmer

[somber sundial]

That was my whole point dude

[cosmic raptor]

Orange website

[normal hedge]

one piece from scratch

[grizzled lily]

damnnn

[heady cliff]

Area is inhabited by Restless Dead

[errant flower]

I found a div on the ground in acts phrecia 2.0, so I conclude ground loot is not bad and it is a fubgun skill issue

[peak heron]

that would be a direct contradiction the said statement saying im FLAT broke then flexing thousands of dollars

[wheat sinew]

would recommend 100%

[somber sundial]

If fubgun being a whale is saying, not enough water in ocean, bro wtf is happening with the normal fish??

[grizzled lily]

im watching eng dugged animes while playing alr

dubbed

[wheat sinew]

not biased or anything

[fossil mural]

no one is saying they are broke, mister moron

[split maple]

More of was forced to change career to tiles

Since that's what happened

[heady cliff]

phrecia had extra map mods in areas which solved ground loot issue, i agree

[tranquil sedge]

like im fucking bad at this game compared to the top players, and even my dumb ass could make mirrors if all i did was harvest

turns out, i do exactly that

that doesn't mean ground loot isn't shit lmfao

[normal hedge]

arent they making a remake or something?

[potent bramble]

The entirety of Avatar: The Last Airbender. The animated one, not the abomination

[wheat sinew]

DBZ is great

[grizzled lily]

i want to watch smth comedy this time

[wheat sinew]

yes but probably not in the next ~2-3 years until it happens

[grizzled lily]

3.27 i watched some anime

[pulsar dune]

@peak heron fubgun likes juicing maps to absurdity, and currently it isn't really feasible nor fun. He knows how to make money anyway, just by exploiting being near the head of the progression for the first week, but even mid-league the man was doing harvest, normally he's doing some horrors with boxes/blight/whatever.

[opaque wing]

Feedback doesn't happen with only one datapoint, if someone is making a point and others resonate with said point, its at that point where a developer starts considering the feedback directly. And one who has experienced extreme amounts of ground loot dropping is most likely more aware of the quality of said ground loot than someone who has dropped very little

[tranquil umbra]

the live action adaptation truth

[peak heron]

see there were we agree doing strats makes you money

[tranquil sedge]

having 3 mirrors IS being flat broke for fubgun and the equivalent is you being happy with 5 divines over a league, understand?

[wheat sinew]

watch Fire Force

💀

[somber sundial]

Aang was a person trying to be an avatar, Korra was an avatar trying to be a person

[fossil mural]

live adaptation > animation

[grizzled lily]

nooo i dont wanna watch any animes this time

[fossil mural]

You mean uung?

[tranquil sedge]

ground loot is also supposed to be a part of the game
except they have killed that and then they kill strategies every league

[wheat sinew]

eeh it has it's appealing animation

[opal ingot]

what work do you do

[lilac parcel]

we need fubgun at 2 mirrors a day , im trolling

[opal ingot]

if u dont mind me asking

[fossil mural]

small buisness

[somber sundial]

Who the fuck is UUNG?

[opal ingot]

ahh

[errant flower]

fulltime poe1 player

[opal ingot]

das cool honestly

[fossil mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CadMS5voZrk

[potent bramble]

Ye both animated ones are fine, but the live action movie was atrocious. If you can't get the main character's name right then you shouldn't go to production

[split maple]

he didnt say in what currency 😉

[cosmic raptor]

Grok is this true

[peak heron]

very true theres we agree aswell but what i do not agree is
in the levels to which is should be buffed

[somber sundial]

I’m going to be sick

[normal hedge]

ovotar

[opal ingot]

shurly usd

[somber sundial]

I never watched

[tranquil sedge]

its currently at level zero
that is why even fubgun is complaining

[fossil mural]

in cheerios

[somber sundial]

Didn’t want to get Uber Uber mad

[grizzled lily]

are simulacrums considered tile loots or ground loots?

[valid coral]

is market feature disable?

[split maple]

tiles kinda

[grizzled lily]

tile right

[somber sundial]

Voices drop

[errant flower]

100k cheerios is too little, I'd probably eat in 1 day

[split maple]

but like you do simuls for fossils and jewels

other stuff is mostly crapo

maybe 1div per 10

[slow sonnet]

Eveything alright with the website?

Seems to not be loading

[heady cliff]

simus being better source of fossils than delve

[normal hedge]

towel loot

[somber sundial]

Sims can pay for itself in the ground loot you drop, the profit is the uniques that come from it

[potent bramble]

You really aren't missing anything. The special effects are decent, but it's very "do 10 moves to shift this rock a bit" b/c they put more focus on the people than the bending IMO

[heady cliff]

outrageous

[somber sundial]

Gotcha

[peak heron]

yes that is true
but i think his agruement should be better faced at the current scarab level since a vast majority of scabs are either not being used or being nerfed
ground loot DOES need a buff but not a super major

[harsh flame]

something is coming

[gritty epoch]

Teasers Inc it's time

[somber sundial]

Not when you equip a loot filter that chops all the shit loot out

[grizzled lily]

eeeeh depends cause delve fossils are better esp the ones that only drop from there

[fossil mural]

watch this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43HiRvRdD40

[heady cliff]

harvest swap them, duh

[fossil mural]

its way too early