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[brazen vector]

So makes sense to add more breach ring nodes

[stuck phoenix]

Anyways

[brazen vector]

Easiest fix imo

[coral summit]

that leap slam is taking THREE DAYS TO CROSS THE ROAD

AND I CANT FIX IT

[stuck phoenix]

Something something

[bold scarab]

Ye poe2 handled that alot better by having the downside be stats instead of slots

[coral summit]

[prime hill]

damn a lot of places I check feels absolutely defeated about tree going core and hating it

[coral summit]

Tree is very polarizing

it makes very very good gear early on

[stuck phoenix]

Tree can go core for all it wants

[coral summit]

by doing this it kills rog

[stuck phoenix]

I like more crafting options

[split maple]

until i see how much tree is nerfed idc bout it

[coral summit]

and it kills early essence crafting

[karmic gust]

kinda pointless to doom about it when people dont even know how nerfed it is yet

[prime hill]

I guess people really want their essenced ground loot to sell for 5 divs day 1

[brazen vector]

Ill be a tree farmer, dont mind me

[stuck phoenix]

It's not like tree isn't getting changed

[split maple]

like if tree stays a decent source of unique jewels i am happy

[coral summit]

if it doesn't kill rog/early essences, it means that it's terrible

[stuck phoenix]

Blood is literally fucking gone

[leaden quiver]

its just reddit being reddit

the tree is good, its going to get nerfed

foulborns are amazing

[split maple]

tho if it keeps overqual stuff and fracs and lucky gear its bad for game imo

[coral summit]

until you're just spamming for ancient wombgifts

[prime hill]

its not reddit tho uly

[leaden quiver]

gifts are cool since you specialize them

[bold scarab]

Tree is gonna be withered and dead ... They fucked over harvest already so ye

[prime hill]

I havent even checked reddit in ages

[leaden quiver]

its reddit brain poison

[prime hill]

nah

I actually get their point

[leaden quiver]

whats the issue with the tree then

[coral summit]

It was really good for earlygame, which was terrible for a lot of the earlygame economy stuff

[prime hill]

early crafts/early money makers literally just go boom

[past mantle]

It hits rog but rog is still prime for suppress gear.
It doesn't hit essences.
It reaaaaaaaaaaally hits a lot of use cases for fossils tho.

[leaden quiver]

surely they will not nerf the rare thing xd

[prime hill]

and people feel like

[leaden quiver]

thats just such a stupid assumption

[coral summit]

provisional wombgift stuff 100% needs to get nerfed into the floor

[leaden quiver]

yeah guys surely they will just keep it unnerfed

[prime hill]

it undermines their progression

[leaden quiver]

like they kept harvest

right?

[split maple]

tree is stronger for suppress gear than rog rn imo

[prime hill]

yeah, idk so far

[grizzled lily]

leap slam main skill

[prime hill]

ill be real

[coral summit]

cuz it also hit harbinger stuff for fractures

[grizzled lily]

thoughts?

[karmic gust]

something being good alternative to exped and essences is welcome addition imo

[leaden quiver]

it will be nerfed 100%

[karmic gust]

fuck just spamming that shit all the time

[split maple]

reduce suffixes and you get suppress stuff a lot a lot on tree

[prime hill]

I don't like tree aswell but it's good for more casual/newer players

[karmic gust]

thats not even fun at all

[leaden quiver]

also with breach being locked into maps it will require more grinding to start printing items

[coral summit]

leap slam isnt the main skill lmao, it was just checking if I was able to drop quicksilver for tincture

[leaden quiver]

which will likely be worse

[bold scarab]

And then the tree becomes worthless unless your hunting foulborns ... Like harvest is now worthless unless your gambling div cards

[coral summit]

instead of a different flask for tincture

[brazen vector]

They never said blood will be deleted, only that stored blood will br lost and the method of growing wombgifts will be the same

Am I missing something

[coral summit]

but unfortunately 1.9APS is way too slow to drop a tincture

[past mantle]

Grafts held blood, no more grafts.

[coral summit]

to drop quicksilver* for a tincture

[split maple]

not rly

i think its too early to predict

[prime hill]

huh

harvest is useful when people start crafting

[past mantle]

It'll just likely end up being wombgifts rarer but no blood kind of deal.

[stuck phoenix]

Grafts are gone

[karmic gust]

well they can just make blood be stored by default without requiring grafts

[brazen vector]

You can have itemised blood

[split maple]

or make them cost gold

[coral summit]

well we won't have grafts to store graftblood in, so it's a matter of if it gets stored by default or if they just adjust wombgift rarity around it

[brazen vector]

Like harvest juice

[prime hill]

most harvest juice pricing history also shows that

they go up when people start crafting

and peak when people start gambling

[grizzled lily]

tradeable blood

[split maple]

grafts as gold sink would kinda be allrite 🤔

[coral summit]

pls no

there is already too much gold sink LOL

[split maple]

like shiping pressure and mappers etc would make them balanced

[stuck phoenix]

How about no

[split maple]

like not overused

[past mantle]

Seems superfluous and would make trading more annoying when wombgifts aren't in the faustus menu to begin with.

[prime hill]

one thing I always hated about kingsmarch

[coral summit]

my kingsmarch dudes are already starving cuz of recombinators

[brazen vector]

How about maybe? Im just throwing ideas into the room, we dont know what ggg will do

[coral summit]

and im gonna be running bosses

[stuck phoenix]

How about no

[coral summit]

not gonna have SHIT for gold

[prime hill]

"sanctum floods market with divs and even mirrors!!!!!!! inflation!!!!"

[brazen vector]

I doubt blood is outright gone

[prime hill]

lets add kingsmarch afterwards

[opal ingot]

High five

[prime hill]

XD

[opal ingot]

No time for mappers and shipments when recomb gives you the cash

[prime hill]

whole sanctum nerfs were just for crybaby crafters

who would non stop cry about it

[past mantle]

Sanctum only rewards currency and uniques. Literally the worst structure you can imagine for rewards.

💤

[steel light]

uses scarab of risk, unstable tentacle fiend

[split maple]

if it wasnt for tattoos i would ignore ships

issue with sanctumy is that it was the one decent raw div farm together with inscr+cata ulti

it being nerfed rly limits the supply

[prime hill]

yeah

[split maple]

ships are what 2 div a day?

[prime hill]

people were going like

[normal hedge]

way more

[prime hill]

omg sanctum floods market with divs

meanwhile kingsmarch is more accessable

and more like

[split maple]

raw div

[prime hill]

10 div per day passively

[bold scarab]

The other passive tho ... Increasing your life cost by 100% with bog shaman owo ... Means more flat spell dmg from that one passive

[normal hedge]

yes, way more than 2 divs a day

[split maple]

like i get somedays a div somedays 6

[steel light]

just do lost in transit and ignore ship too

[split maple]

but 2 d feels averageish

not sending to kalgur tho since tats

[past mantle]

Kingsmarch also deletes items.

[split maple]

thats ass

like rly

phrecia level of it is ok

but atlas tree?

[past mantle]

And deleting items is goodge here.

[normal hedge]

u're only ignoring ships if u're flipping scarabs 24/7

and even then you can just buy a gold carry

and throw 2m gold in your city

[bold scarab]

It's kinda ass in the core game but in phrecia

Ye

[split maple]

like i needed a month of ships to fill my tree with herald tats

[prime hill]

it takes like 2-3 days to setup kingsmarch when you know what are you doing tbh

[split maple]

tats rly rly need an active source, thats not reasonable

• journey tats rn are unobtanium

[past mantle]

Definitely.

[onyx adder]

Delete kingsmarch and set fire to the underpants of everybody who disagrees

[prime hill]

yes

[onyx adder]

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[finite quail]

terrible with the atlas tree

[prime hill]

just keep recombs

[opal ingot]

Nope

It goes away

[finite quail]

Nah

[prime hill]

damn then im 50-50 about it

[split maple]

yes if you give me tatto source in any shape and form that is based on playing the game

[onyx adder]

Im coming for ur undies

[prime hill]

recomb is one part I love about kingsmarch

[past mantle]

10% to replace ore with chests is just?

[prime hill]

it lets you make impossible items

[onyx adder]

Your terms are acceptable

[lean urchin]

bring the ores to delve 🤡

[onyx adder]

Im also willing to put runegrafts somewhere

[split maple]

• buff sanctum to 2d/tome avg at least pls

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-blanket-punching-angry-gif-10848519859414615034

[opal ingot]

It's complex enough that people don't bother to learn it

And we can abuse the money making there

[past mantle]

Remove sanctum and kingsmarch and we good.

Or at least give sanctum actual rewards.

[whole bluff]

When a whole league is around tree tree, blood was fine. Would be ass to buy or sell wombgifts and blood though

[opal ingot]

More rf shield crafts for meee and future 5 mod recombs incoming

[split maple]

then you only have ulti left for divs

[past mantle]

Currency and uniques, reddit pleaser.

[opal ingot]

I wish I git gud next league

[prime hill]

sanctum is really fun with a specialized build

[split maple]

like there is no other raw currency farms rn

[whole bluff]

When you could just opt out

[prime hill]

oops there you go I said it

[past mantle]

And divs.

[whole bluff]

Or randomly drop a thing you can't use

[split maple]

you can take my divined jewels from my cold dead hands Flo

[whole bluff]

Or drop a resource but no thing

[past mantle]

Oh also rituals.

[bold scarab]

Heist bloodline
-Unlocks mercenaries (from merc league)
-A passive that deals with rarity or quantity or something
-obligatory 3rd passive

[split maple]

rituals are like a div per what 5 maps?

thats kinda ass

[brazen vector]

"would be ass to buy lifeforce and sacred lifeforce" back when the swap from itemised crafts to lifeforce happened x3

[past mantle]

I really don't care for a source of raw currency farms, go play the game and produce real items.

[split maple]

you need div to produce real items

[short prairie]

❌

[past mantle]

Thankfully they're a global drop.

[onyx adder]

I dont really mind it just makes metacrafting annoying if theres no divs in the game

[split maple]

like its rly hard to ssf enough divines for gear needs rn

[short prairie]

That will be too powerful

[past mantle]

In the nicest way, I don't care.

[onyx adder]

These days recombs have made metacrafting less necessary

[past mantle]

SSF issues do not concern me.

[onyx adder]

So its okay

[short prairie]

The can retouch abyss hoards

[bold scarab]

Oh ... 3rd passive could just be a jewel slot

[split maple]

i am not gonna recomb a helical

[brazen vector]

buff edifice and remove lighthouse from the atlas

[split maple]

nor i am going to slap on adorned a non-divined jewel

[coral summit]

helical recomb is a terrible idea

[onyx adder]

I said less necessary brother

[coral summit]

arent those just fracture/essence bait

[split maple]

so raw currency farms are needed

[native token]

Since when is divine supply a issue in ssf

[coral summit]

or influence/essence bait

[past mantle]

As I said, I don't care about SSF.

[prime hill]

its not specially with kingsmarch

[onyx adder]

We're saying if kingsmarch and sanctum get deleted

[split maple]

i burned like 200 this month cas

[coral summit]

ok real talk i know how to craft helicals but how the actual fk do you craft a manifold

[past mantle]

I want league mechanics to have actual rewards.

[prime hill]

oh right

[coral summit]

to the 3 people who have ever used a manifold ring

[split maple]

and like ulti/ships are the only decent sources left

[prime hill]

it'd be ded ded if both are destroyed

[whole bluff]

Sacred lifeforce is priced separately and only used on the pricier stuff. Blood was used on everything. Also the trend when they make things core is they make it simpler so you don't end up with heist reveals and rogue markers etc

[native token]

Keeper was insane for rewards

[opal ingot]

Chaos slam an average of 1 million times to get the outcome you want

[coral summit]

cuz i'm lookin at somethin like this, but I think you have to fracture crit multi>essence of dread for life+wed at the same time which sounds terrible?

[short prairie]

Retouch hoards and make abyss poo2 abyss

[past mantle]

Correct, keepers was actually very good as a reward structure.

[brazen vector]

yea, we will see how they manage it :3

I am sure itll be decent

[prime hill]

whole reason people want tree to be gone is the early to t16 league progression taking 20% of the time you spend usually

and most of people I see would rather have ground loot better

than having another zone to go through

[coral summit]

and i'm only like eighty percent sure you can even fracture crit multi and then use dread

[prime hill]

if they wanna ease early progression

[split maple]

you can essence spam a fraced essence item yes

[coral summit]

the remaining 20% says since they're both essence exclusive mods that's not possible

since you usually cant get armour on a ring

[native token]

Tree is good for lowdiviner cause gear maybe cheap

[pulsar dune]

Yea that part is possible

[coral summit]

ig we find out on craft of exile

[stuck phoenix]

Only way to get double essence is if one is fractured

[prime hill]

foulborns were also a good way to make money when you knew ilvls

[split maple]

thats mine - crit multi and int are both essenced

[prime hill]

with jewels etc

[pulsar dune]

Wed weight is IIRC really shit

[past mantle]

Sure sounds like something that can be managed without the tree being gone.

In the least nice way possible, are they stupid?

[coral summit]

yeah its not great

[prime hill]

why do that when tree exists

[coral summit]

thats why im not sure if that's even the best way to do it

[ornate patrol]

U can use essences if theres already a fractured essence mod? O_o

[bold scarab]

The problem is you can't guarantee ground loot ever getting better ... But we HAVE seen better loot coming from this mechanic

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[past mantle]

What if tree had lower numbers and items weren't as easy to force.

Woah...

[native token]

People complain about the tree is killing progression but playing trade??????

[ornate patrol]

Wtf i never knew that

[prime hill]

as I said

[stuck phoenix]

It's not all that useful

[past mantle]

Idk, just seems like a waste of text to me.

[stuck phoenix]

But sometimes it's handy

[prime hill]

most of their 'progression' is essenced decent rares in day 1-3

which they also sell

[ornate patrol]

Sounds hella usefull for making flat ele weapons

[coral summit]

i think at that point you would just fracture wed and drop essence of dread entirely

spam crit multi essence

[split maple]

yea thats how you cooked these before recombi. frac one, essnece spam until third

[stuck phoenix]

Essence is like t2 though usually

So not really no

[whole bluff]

Hope so. I'd rather wombgifts be their own deal anyway. If you want ancient wombgifts you buy ancient wombgifts, simple as

[native token]

Yes but don't complain about progression if you skip most of it anyways with trade

[ornate patrol]

U dont gotta shoot my dreams down like that bibo :c

[stuck phoenix]

Just alt spam for the flat to fracture instead at that point

[whole bluff]

Also, that's just how I read the statement

[prime hill]

I'm just a messenger

[coral summit]

yeah ok thats not happening with essences LOL

[stuck phoenix]

Shoot the messenger

[prime hill]

I don't like tree but I feel like it's better for casual players

[past mantle]

The message is bad and we're going to shoot you for it.

[ornate patrol]

[coral summit]

gotta fracture wed

the problem is other prefixes are actually shit lol

[native token]

Keeping the tree is the right choice

[coral summit]

could get added fire

[prime hill]

and trade progression is money you make regardless

[split maple]

trade economy always rebalances due to demand or supply so most stuff makes samey div/h except few overachiving strats

so idk why y'all care so much 😄

[past mantle]

"The in league crafting option was too strong" is just the most useless argument ever I don't get what the point is.

[whole bluff]

I read it as the same reason people don't like async. They wanna profit more on less experienced players?

[past mantle]

That is always overpowered by design and then nerfed immediately when added in.

[prime hill]

kekw

bingo

[brazen vector]

they wanna scam and lowball

[stuck phoenix]

Indeed

[past mantle]

Twice the reason to ignore them.

[dark grove]

We cant migrate from phercia to keepers?

[stuck phoenix]

Especially when also remembering that it won't be in every zone

[prime hill]

80% of the complains are basically that

[brazen vector]

no, wait a day

[prime hill]

some of them were actually good

like hurr

[split maple]

gonna wait for tomorrow :/

[past mantle]

I'm glad everyone who disagrees with me is morally stupid.

[prime hill]

we playing arpg

[native token]

It's kinda funny how people complain about league mechanic x but also buying maeven carry

[prime hill]

can't we just make ground loot better

instead of relying 200 other stuff

which is something I agree

[split maple]

i just want 3.28 to have some mechanic that will be like 80% of hoards power from last leg

like sustains scarbs, prints tinks

[native token]

Everything is fine

[prime hill]

everything is fine

we all will quit eventually

[past mantle]

They did, fractures got added to the main drop pool like 8 leagues ago.

[prime hill]

out of 200 fractures I pick

[brazen vector]

how about you get to build a temple room by room and at the end there is btziri with 5 boobs that you kill for a room full of chests?

[prime hill]

maybe 1 was sellable or useable

[native token]

I wont I don't care what they release aslong it's not bad like affliction league

[prime hill]

truly GGG way

[pulsar dune]

Hm, nightgrip works for spells huh

[past mantle]

It's global damage, yes.

[coral summit]

o my god crafting these is fucking miserable what the fk

[past mantle]

That's not an issue tho?

[coral summit]

if you use your one suffix on essence you can't metamod it after fishing for t1 life

[past mantle]

200 items is like a map on a good strat.

[ornate patrol]

Or breach 2.0

[stuck phoenix]

Lol

[native abyss]

imagine a bard class tho

[stuck phoenix]

Buff atziri

[coral summit]

so u end up with like this shit

[past mantle]

Ans the loot is good, and from the ground.

[prime hill]

idk even on a juiced t17

you see 2-4 fractured items on ground

[split maple]

unveil, bench, done idk

[past mantle]

Why are you doing T17s for fracs?

[split maple]

but yea its pain

[prime hill]

im not

[native token]

Keepers was nice but affliction was worse then kalandra

[past mantle]

Then why bring up T17s.

[prime hill]

im just saying what I see

[pulsar dune]

Does the woke scarab fracture farm still exist?

[coral summit]

and just have to craft a random mod and 1 in 3 veiled exalt

[prime hill]

bro why everytime I talk on this discord you just get on my ass

LOL

[split maple]

suflock 1 in 2 veiled ex?

[past mantle]

Maybe the issue isn't the fracs but you just not farming for ground loot?

[prime hill]

for months

[coral summit]

oh right

you can still suf lock

[ornate patrol]

That is definitely a take

[frigid wedge]

i think i have one of those with flat lightning

[ornate patrol]

One of the takes of all times

[split maple]

flo what even is your definition of ground loot

[coral summit]

the alternative though i cant do it cuz of mana cost demands

[past mantle]

Drops from mobs.

[brazen vector]

my cute manifold

[coral summit]

would be to just reflect for those 3 mods

and slam 2 random trash mods

3 mod helical is like 1/10 rite

[native token]

1000 divines per rare mob and every t0

[split maple]

the ones that look good on item filter?

[coral summit]

er, 3 mod helical/manifold

[past mantle]

One of the best things we had that was good ground loot was synth items in synth maps and GGG got rid of it and that's a tragedy.

[split maple]

or like any crap at all

like i dont want to be forced into using wisdom scrolls you know

[coral summit]

the problem is if I did that, my mana costs would be fucked lol

[split maple]

makes my wrists scream

[bold scarab]

Identified drops when

[opal ingot]

I wonder how whispers interact with +- to mana cost

[leaden berry]

someone has primeval hideout on map ?

[split maple]

today https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cloak_of_Tawm'r_Isley

[opal ingot]

Lemme check if wiki has it

[frigid wedge]

scratch that, both sold

[bold scarab]

Sure but everything else ... And also not on a specific unique

[coral summit]

...ALTERNATIVELY instead of reflecting for crit multi I solve my mana costs completely off one item

and reflect for life+wed+cost

[past mantle]

I have a custom one for fractures specifically that includes the 3 atlas bases and then some specific low tier items like scepters, lowest tier minion wand.

[coral summit]

and then do like, crafted aspect of the something

[frigid wedge]

nvm had no crit

[past mantle]

Also Ritual has a good source of ground loot.

[frigid wedge]

sold 2 like it tho

[split maple]

pls dont tell me your example of good ground loot is random ass fracs

[past mantle]

I do like looking at items, what's why I do mechanics that make you do a lot of item looking.

[opal ingot]

Yeah it interacts

[stuck phoenix]

Ground loot = fine powder

[coral summit]

also are reflecting mist magnitudes multiplicative or additive with heist rings

[split maple]

yeah now i see why your definition of good reward structure is opposite to mine kinda 😄 i find hovering items rly tedious

personal difference ig

[past mantle]

Good ground loot is anything that is worth picking up and identifying. Fractures are one of that.

[coral summit]

if you hit 1.8x magnitude is it 80% increased or 80% more magnitude

[pulsar dune]

Oh, but I can't get real ward without the belt, and the belt is too copium on pf

[coral summit]

o its multiplicative thats crazy

[past mantle]

My definition of a good rewards structure is that it has variety, items specific to that rewards structure and that it produces a lot of things that can be used up. I always like Ritual for it because it has all of that going for it, even if the mechanic itself is boneless ultimatum.

[stuck phoenix]

Worst part with ritual is that it's dogshit in party play

[brazen vector]

how do non meme builds even play this boss without bugging it

[split maple]

but i kinda liked sanctum structure for that reason before nerf - like it had baseline ok generic rewards (a few div per tome, big fat stacks of scours and chaoses etc), with content-specific uniques

and also rewards internal to it - so relics, so it has internal progression

[coral summit]

by bugging do you mean having both bosses active at once?

[past mantle]

Generic currency isn't a real reward for me.

[coral summit]

when they shouldnt be

[past mantle]

It's just a global drop.

[coral summit]

i have no clue in that case lmao

[brazen vector]

nah one just refuses to phase

[past mantle]

Same goes for uniques really except for Osin.

[split maple]

there needs to be some mechanics ingame imo where its target farmable and not just global drop

[brazen vector]

same bug as with elder getting stuck in uber elder

[split maple]

just since use value is too high for it

[past mantle]

That's what div cards are for

[split maple]

eh that div cards are good div source is sad

idk how many i got from 98 to 99, like 4div worth out of fortunates?

[pulsar dune]

The main div card farming strat these days is boxes anyway

[coral summit]

oh

uh, no clue then

i've never encountered that

[pulsar dune]

Which also aren't targetted

[past mantle]

I also don't like mechanics giving rewards from other mechanics, since that actively devalues them.
I don't think mirror shards should exist outside of div cards and harbinger for example.

[split maple]

if you insta breach bosses they often fail to phase

[brazen vector]

270m dps probably too much

[split maple]

but yea ales lower your dps a tad 😄

or dont hold button

[pulsar dune]

Yeah, the game global pool is too big

[split maple]

ritual has a lot of other content rewards tho?

[past mantle]

Or fossils outside of delve or essences outside of essence.

[dusty mesa]

I also agree with this. Blighted maps are too broken for this

[brazen vector]

hmpfh

[split maple]

like it even has temple mods

[brazen vector]

[pulsar dune]

Essences outside of essence are largely irrelevant these days, no?

[dusty mesa]

Like why are blighted maps just better delve mats than delve

[past mantle]

Yep, I think they should bring back synth gear to synth maps and remove it from ritual for example.

[split maple]

better question why delve is so shit for non-delve-excluisive fossile

[pulsar dune]

You get an inventory of deafenings per map pretty much

[opal ingot]

Wait rly? Lmao

[split maple]

like you cannot beat simuls for fossils rn

[dusty mesa]

also true

[split maple]

yea ritual pool is crazy inflated by random content stuff

[past mantle]

Yeah, but I still would prefer them to be within their specific content.

[brazen vector]

at least you can get +1 specter stuff in delve

[coral summit]

tfw upgrading this to reflected with average rolls is only like 7% more damage but +700 life cuz it had to drop crit multi

it does completely delete my mana costs

[pulsar dune]

Ritual even has double veiled items IIRC

[steel light]

@brazen vector the harby tree u linked me, does it use scarab of obelisks?

[dusty mesa]

simmys Im slightly biased toward because the entire point of delirium is to include random reward tiles. And no, I don't know how to balance that

[opal ingot]

Yeah I think I saw a bunch of those

[past mantle]

Yep, ritual can drop so much shit.

[coral summit]

Ritual has a lot of stuff it can drop but theres good odds you just lose money running it over the course of a few hours

[past mantle]

Incubators too I believe.

[coral summit]

gotta go in with a solid stack

cant start with pocket change

[brazen vector]

I dont remember O.O

[past mantle]

Losing money on ritual? No, definitely not.

[split maple]

You cannot lose money on ritual if you try

[past mantle]

Ritual is so much bubblegum between anything decent.

[split maple]

Like scarbs it uses are dirt common

Just it wastes so so much time between worthwhile stuff

[brazen vector]

3x harbinger 1x regency 1x beyond of invasion @steel light

[coral summit]

abundance isnt hard to come by but somehow they still manage to be like

20-25c per scarab

zzz

[past mantle]

I think things like raw currency can exist in something like Heist. Themathically makes sense and it already has a large reward pool unique to it.

[split maple]

That it makes a lot of sense to skip a map if it's not nameless

[grizzled lily]

ritual omens 3 divs a blanching mmmmmm

[split maple]

You only need selectivenesses tho

[coral summit]

o i mean if you dont run abundance yeah the other shit is dirt cheap per map

just even running 1 abundance can be kinda fucked if you arent just fishing for nameless

[split maple]

Like use random ass botles instead of abundances

[past mantle]

I would run abundance once every like 10 maps once I hit the deffer cap.

And cash in on everything with 50k favour.

[split maple]

Like running abundances when not cashing out deferals is rly not needed

[coral summit]

i was just running one per map and legit it felt kinda scam

double select+one abundance+either wisps or domination scarabs idr

[dusty mesa]

capturing rogue exiles is OP for ritual. Or was, they may have nerfed capturing them?

[split maple]

Nah Oreo Just 2x selectiveness

[past mantle]

They did.

[split maple]

Defer good stuff

[coral summit]

gotcha

[split maple]

Use abundances when you have full window of deferal

[dusty mesa]

I thought I remembered that

[split maple]

So you have 3 scarb slots left for second mechanic of choice

[split maple]

Cannot bottle giants anymore 🙁

[past mantle]

I don't remember what I ran with mine last league.

[split maple]

I mostly do beasties + ritual

Also did Alva and betrayal

[dusty mesa]

I never did it anyway, but I know it was lik 5d just selling the bottles lol

so you could actually just make money off of bottling them lol

[past mantle]

I did do a lot of ritual with rogue exiles.

[split maple]

Yea that was one of Best div/h farms before nerf

Just tedious af

[past mantle]

Rogue exiles to force fractures was really fun.

[split maple]

Since you need to manually count giants

[past mantle]

Even if that required an actual build.

[dusty mesa]

yea having to count them was why I didn't do it lol

[split maple]

They werent marked separately on bottle

[steel light]

anyone recall how much was scarab of risk during merc league when the limit was 3? it wasn't as much as 45c right?

[silent leaf]

https://youtu.be/AnKRO6GA-bM

YOOOOOOO

SPARK LEAGUE START?

[split maple]

it was rly common scarb back then. 3.27 made it rare af

[dusty mesa]

I'm just hoping the new league has a good balance between in maps and side content that doesn't have walls lmao

[split maple]

abyss sustained as many risks as you wanted

[silent leaf]

Hawk Tuadh

[split maple]

so it was pretty free

[past mantle]

It was almost triple digits at some point.

[dreamy charm]

how bad is toxic rain in ssf? i might start doing some act 10 runs with it

[dusty mesa]

its solid

[split maple]

you thinking of woker maybe?

or like last week pricing or some crap

[frigid wedge]

im pretty sure ive genuinely sat through the entirety of one of these before

without doing anything else

[split maple]

risks were droping like hands ful per map when scarb farming

[silent leaf]

the dps looks fucking rough lmao

[dusty mesa]

TR is one of those skills that you just kinda level and get atk speed

[silent leaf]

he needs like 5 seconds to fucking scratch a yellow beast

[frigid wedge]

i watched havoc do storm rain

[dreamy charm]

my goal is to make a non slam/pconc build that can just barley do t17's. i think TR might be a good place to start

[frigid wedge]

its not

[past mantle]

About 40 during the very active times.

[frigid wedge]

tr gets 18m dps and then shits iself

[dusty mesa]

just level pconc at that point lol

oh nvm

[past mantle]

I could've sworn they were more expensive earlier but I'm not right on that.

[silent leaf]

ok holy fuck its 5 minutes to do eater alone

[steel light]

uber?

[silent leaf]

league start

[blissful zodiac]

work do be boring sometimes

[silent leaf]

no

[gritty epoch]

Someone killed feared with toxic rain in one of the recent gauntlets

[dusty mesa]

I read that as "Im doing non slam, but I want to do pconc later" for some reason

its early

[blissful zodiac]

at least ill have money to buy stash tabs now bois

[silent leaf]

https://youtu.be/AnKRO6GA-bM?t=29950

this time

[blissful zodiac]

and girls

[silent leaf]

timestamp

[grizzled lily]

didnt ben do that also

[gritty epoch]

Spark is cope imo

[split maple]

rn in keepers: 7 risks and onlyy using them for harvest farm. end of last leg: 122 risks and was burning 4 of them per abyss map. ignore other scarb amounts, i am vendoring them on regular

[blissful zodiac]

spark is funny

[brazen vector]

[split maple]

tho in general scarb farm is now worse than it was

[gritty epoch]

With toxic rain?

[pulsar dune]

Fury valve shouldn't be too expensive IG

[grizzled lily]

thats what i remember

[dusty mesa]

I honestly may do map sell strat

[past mantle]

Scarab farming got massively hit by the T17 changes and risk scarab changes.

It's in a pretty sad state.

[dusty mesa]

that incentivizes me to do 4 voidstones asap

[split maple]

scarab farm got hit by loss of abyss too

like harbeyond is much worse than it

[steel light]

oof my poe hung for 7 secs while doing harby

[blissful zodiac]

yeah

[past mantle]

Oh yeah, that also.

[blissful zodiac]

only good in tier 17s to farm scarabs ngl

[brazen vector]

I cant wait for the next league to be stash tab intensive again <3

[split maple]

and nemeses farm got pretty fucked by other changes

[grizzled lily]

tuadh does every skill to 2 voidstoens

[past mantle]

You only do Fortress for scarabs now right?

[split maple]

so for meaningful amount of scarbs per map its pretty much invigo blight and ephemerals but both of these are not sustainable

[dusty mesa]

DB's poison spark build looks like it has potential with fury valve

[silent leaf]

HAWK TUADH

[split maple]

yea for harbeyond and nemeses

[royal stump]

❤️

[split maple]

for blight t16.5

[pulsar dune]

I mean you can kinda do anything with spark fury valve

[dusty mesa]

nemesis? what is this 3.13?

[brazen vector]

dash as main skill when?

[fossil mural]

Just open crates on fort ICANT

[split maple]

horned scarb of nemeses 2x, adversaries 2x, divinity or wisps 1x

pretty fun but cannot sustain

[past mantle]

Next league I might just do a beyond farming honestly.

[split maple]

its like crack with headhunter tho

[royal stump]

horny scarab 🫣

[grizzled lily]

leap spam DISH DISH DISH perma jump steve style

[steel light]

all rares

[dusty mesa]

yea Im just being dumb. I miss old beyond with nemesis though

nem4 OP

[fossil mural]

Or charlatan

If you can kill the first couple rares

[past mantle]

Just do an ignite prolif starter and enjoy being half of the market for tainted fuses.

[crisp obsidian]

or both!

[pulsar dune]

Do you do beyond bosses or no?

[split maple]

i kinda rly hate rn the game loop of farm harbbeyond in t16.5 dunes for t17 fortresses, farm harbbeyond for scarbs in fortress, repeat until you accumulate 100 or so scarbs for mechanic you actually need to run

[dusty mesa]

aren't there people who only farm 8mod vaal temples

[pulsar dune]

It's pretty shit these days

[past mantle]

Maybe one guy.

[coral summit]

crazy people yes

[brazen vector]

I am crazy people next league

[crisp obsidian]

yes me

I do it a lot

[split maple]

didnt some guy make a mirr out of vaal temple farm early in league

[crisp obsidian]

very easy money

anyone saying otherwise has no idea

[split maple]

like cb jewels and random crapo sell

[coral summit]

easy money but some stuff takes a lot of time to sell

from what i heard

[crisp obsidian]

you have async

you don't care

[dusty mesa]

I've never done it really. I always run them bc you can get cool uniques

[coral summit]

ye

thats fair

[split maple]

end of last league ik sokratis farmed a shitload of t16.5 vaal temples tho these are rly ass to make. looked like fun farm tho

[fossil mural]

Bosses spawn way too quickly?

[dusty mesa]

but never farmed them

[past mantle]

Async really made evetything nicer.

[pulsar dune]

Hm, async is kinda huge if you whale out for tabs huh

[grizzled lily]

just do alva early bro trust

[crisp obsidian]

if your build can handle the bosses it's super easy money

[grizzled lily]

sell corrupt rooms for 150c

[brazen vector]

how many tabs make you a whale

[grizzled lily]

easiest money makah

[past mantle]

I got like 4 tabs and I never feel like I am running out of space.

[pulsar dune]

Enough to get off screen

[silent leaf]

bruh

just run rog

and get half a div each map

[fossil mural]

There is a reason why they sell for so much

[grizzled lily]

in what

[pulsar dune]

That's like 20 maps of vaal temple if you're selective.

[fossil mural]

The maps

[dusty mesa]

what do you normally take on atlas tree? Also, is the main selling point just uniques?

[grizzled lily]

rog currency or what

[hoary scarab]

just run blood aqueduct til day 3

[silent leaf]

suppress + life + res gear

[grizzled lily]

cause no way rog is that good

[silent leaf]

is half a div - div

[split maple]

eh i feel like sardine not like whale

[dusty mesa]

I've never sold one

[crisp obsidian]

uniques, jewels and gems mostly

then a lot of random drops

[grizzled lily]

esp w tree

[brazen vector]

okay, I have no scroll wheel yet

[silent leaf]

idk on tree impact

[crisp obsidian]

also a small chance for jackpot from boss

[pulsar dune]

Marchant tabs specifically for the whaling out

[past mantle]

It's boxes.

[silent leaf]

but back then you can just farm rog and get half a div each map back when i play in trade

[pulsar dune]

Obviously if you've a couple years

[crisp obsidian]

for tree take chance to reopen strongboxes

[pulsar dune]

You'll have a ton of normal tabs

[silent leaf]

you can get more or less 30 div by the end of day 1

[coral summit]

what even do the bosses do in vaal temple again

[leaden quiver]

you spec into "reopen boxes" for vaal temples

[coral summit]

mostly phys/fire damage?

[dusty mesa]

is that the necklace piece?

[leaden quiver]

lots of phys

[coral summit]

iirc one of them had a stupid as fk phys dot

[leaden quiver]

LOOOTS of phys

[past mantle]

Yep.

[dusty mesa]

Yea I knew strongbox stuff. Just didnt know what else

[past mantle]

You just burst them or freeze them.

[grizzled lily]

damn you see nothing but the stash tabs whenever you open your stash

[coral summit]

how much phys r we talking

like

[crisp obsidian]

I think it's boss only?

[coral summit]

go in ready for uber shaper phys with lots of recovery?

[crisp obsidian]

might be any monster tbh

[split maple]

if we talking project tabs

[coral summit]

or not that much

[past mantle]

It's the atziri trio.

[leaden quiver]

nah

[coral summit]

or is it just dot

[brazen vector]

my affliction naming is still there

[past mantle]

It's dot that's the issue.

[coral summit]

cuz iirc one of them does giga cb stacks

i think the rain of arrow ones

[brazen vector]

xd

[dusty mesa]

so I get to mask the dot with PF flask

[dusty mesa]

and pretend like dots aren't a problem

[past mantle]

You can suffer.

[crisp obsidian]

ye this shit hurts

this is the bad shit

[split maple]

i am kinda suprised one of tabs isnt adorned pls

[coral summit]

holy shit

what is THAT

[split maple]

praised be the glorp giver of 100%

[coral summit]

fucking 3k average phys on a uniqe mob so it's 70% more

[past mantle]

One does cb but there's also another dot cloud that just eats through you with phys dot.

[crisp obsidian]

it's small projectiles that rain down

[past mantle]

Just nuke, monka.

[frigid wedge]

sorry what is in the skirts and undies tabs

[coral summit]

and it gets buffed by phys as extra

[leaden quiver]

the enraged one

on the miscreation-looking lady

[coral summit]

yeah casual 5.1k damage per hit before map mods holy shit

[leaden quiver]

you burst her first

[brazen vector]

nothing, it was tabula rasas in affliction

[leaden quiver]

rest is easy

since theyre melee attackers

[split maple]

thats unethically colored

[frigid wedge]

all 3 tabs?

[brazen vector]

ethically gifted by trips x3

[brazen vector]

it was more than 3

[leaden quiver]

you have the stats for all 3 of them on poewiki

[dusty mesa]

what scarabs do you run? hidden compartments, containment, potency and 2x ambush?

[frigid wedge]

why

[dusty mesa]

or do you skip potency

[split maple]

i should tag them for where they lost a 1%, i thought trips had standards 😄

[leaden quiver]

so normal order is alai -> qurai -> yalaz

[dusty mesa]

and do 3x ambush

[leaden quiver]

if you dont instagib them

[crisp obsidian]

extra boxes are useelss, so is containment

[coral summit]

liiike, I would be playing zerker with big armour and xibaqua+fourth vow, but holy shit that's still a lot of damage

[crisp obsidian]

I only run hidden compartments and potency

iirc

[leaden quiver]

you just you hidden compartments

[coral summit]

700 damage per hit even through all that

[brazen vector]

why not

[leaden quiver]

and potency

yeah

also since atziri has been moved out of the feared

[coral summit]

if it has double phys added as

[past mantle]

You don't have to fight them tbh, they're just in their own room.

[leaden quiver]

running her is mega worth if you can stand doing the same thing over and over

for adorned frags

Beauty

[past mantle]

They're chilling.

[dusty mesa]

oh fr? Im actually kinda glad containment is useless

[split maple]

they re a frag tho

[crisp obsidian]

ye you only care about the 10 vaal strongboxes you get

can't increase it anymore

[split maple]

can

[coral summit]

yeah that legit feels like if the map has double phys added as, you just don't fight them lmao

[brazen vector]

they are all corrupted too @frigid wedge

[split maple]

vendor bunch of vaal temples for clean one

[coral summit]

or more than one generic dmg mod

[split maple]

vaal it into vaal temple again

doubles the vessels

[crisp obsidian]

nowae

[split maple]

it rly does

just rly ass to make

[crisp obsidian]

that's wild

and useless

cause you need 5x vaal temple right

to get clean

or 3

[split maple]

i think horses or someone wanted to make like a 4x vaal temple at some point

[past mantle]

Or blow em up.

[crisp obsidian]

w/e it is

[split maple]

5x

[coral summit]

Or that yeah

[dusty mesa]

I'm either going to farm vaal temples or I'm going to sell maps

[crisp obsidian]

ye 5x per

[brazen vector]

I miss necropolis :s

[coral summit]

it would definitely depend how much exp I have at the time LOL

[crisp obsidian]

so you lose 30 vessels each time xdd

[coral summit]

cuz i punched in rain of arrows lady

[split maple]

yea 😄

[coral summit]

this is with double phys added as ele

0 map mod effect

[split maple]

its a nice meme trophy to make a big fat one tho

[coral summit]

and fortify+sap

[crisp obsidian]

oh for sure

[split maple]

and dont forget you still need to vaal the uncorrupted one

if it doesnt hit becoming vaal temple again it dont get veesels

[crisp obsidian]

ye

[coral summit]

that says 20 hits before death but that's with VMS and that shit does like, eight hits a second

[crisp obsidian]

you just lock it

tbh

[split maple]

so its like what 1 in 30 to vaal?

[crisp obsidian]

with beasts

no?

[split maple]

you could yea

[coral summit]

actually terrifying lmao

more damage than uber exarch blazing salvo

by like five times

[steel light]

there's no way to hide all these right?

[coral summit]

nope

[crisp obsidian]

in notification settings maybe?

[split maple]

you can by not selling maps

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[coral summit]

not unless they add something new

[hard cliff]

BIG BALLEar

[leaden quiver]

defiance of destiny + endu stacking usually enuff for them

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-money-rich-gif-26085286

[steel light]

i'm just trying to farm own maps

[crisp obsidian]

maybe this works?

[dusty mesa]

whats the div/hr you think on this

[crisp obsidian]

1-1000

[dusty mesa]

Im actually kinda considering it

[crisp obsidian]

it is

[steel light]

it's for kingsmarch

[dusty mesa]

very rng

got it

[crisp obsidian]

yeah

[crisp obsidian]

faustus is kingsmarch!!!!

gg no one bought it

[brazen vector]

okay, how bad would a coc dd inquisitor be these days

[coral summit]

dd got nerfed into the ground didnt it

[dusty mesa]

dd is always usuable

[coral summit]

not unusable but like

idk if its just free damage for nothing anymore lol

[leaden quiver]

DD is usable if you go archmage

[bronze falcon]

Ah yes, MS copilot. 10 minutes and counting to run a simple bank statement analysis...

[leaden quiver]

for the chain reactin one

if you want to COC

[silent leaf]

deserved

[frigid wedge]

show us the full ring

[silent leaf]

same with hexblast and PS mines

[coral summit]

i bet its like bleed/poison immune

[fossil mural]

You havent deleted it

[coral summit]

or str/int increase

[split maple]

wouldnt it have sold then

[leaden quiver]

why dont people use hexblast of havoc for hexblast mines

whats the issue

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/OZrIMq0Vt9ue somethhin like this

[fossil mural]

Zdps

[bronze falcon]

It's a work machine. They want us to use this crap so I'm getting paid for Copilot to think

[fossil mural]

And terrible clear

[leaden quiver]

fair

[crisp obsidian]

🙂

[frigid wedge]

.-.

[dusty mesa]

I can't remember, does party play affect drops from strongboxes? It does, right?

[frigid wedge]

"DPS: 9,472"

[brazen vector]

no corpse life set

[frigid wedge]

giga

[brazen vector]

too bad you cant have meatsacks in there anymore

in the desecrate

[light sundial]

What happens after Phrecia ends tomorrow?

[grizzled lily]

we all die

[fossil mural]

There is so much to learn

[tranquil umbra]

purgatory

[coral summit]

holy ok yeah i forgot I was using a shield on this build

[light sundial]

At last

[coral summit]

i'm allowed to use shield charge

[brazen vector]

#poe1-news

[coral summit]

and it's WAY faster than leap slam LMAO

[dusty mesa]

why are you scaling atk dmg

[light sundial]

Tyty!

[brazen vector]

for phrecia, all your characters will just be merged to keepers and they get assigned to standard ascendancies

[dusty mesa]

that's the only piece thats unnecesssary

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/qVD2PbM1OHdt can this run ultimatiums

or is more defence needed??

[leaden quiver]

god hexblast is so ass

[brazen vector]

I dont remember but it was meta back then

[ocean field]

any ultimatum players please let me know

[leaden quiver]

cast time 1.00 sec

[split maple]

second paragraph in https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Strongbox#Modifiers

so yea it works except for carto and diviners

[steel light]

doesn't work, maybe cause faustus was unlockable in campaign without kingsmarch

[dusty mesa]

appreciate it

[brazen vector]

IG it was for joke and higher chills

[coral summit]

grey wind is such a goofy unique that every hit does the exact same damage

are there many added damage effects that have zero variance?

[frigid wedge]

consistency!

[coral summit]

cuz off the top of my head I think sacrifice does that?

[hard cliff]

use frost blink

trust

[ocean field]

what is the optimized farm for ultimatum

??

[coral summit]

why not both xdd

[ocean field]

on standard

[hard cliff]

hungry loop with movement skill

[dusty mesa]

standard? 🤢

[hard cliff]

[ocean field]

yeah

[coral summit]

hell no LOL, i need both my ring slots

[ocean field]

yeah I know

[hard cliff]

sounds like a bad build

[ocean field]

just let me know

[dusty mesa]

idk its a cesspool

[coral summit]

thats what i'd be trying to fish for

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/z778GnGQar5m with the actual config and my current gear @frigid wedge

[steel light]

just white map gruelling gauntlet?

[ocean field]

should I target those inscribed ones or tainted catalysts

[dusty mesa]

everything is hyper inflated

[leaden berry]

someone has primeval hideout on map ?

[ocean field]

what

what do you mean

[dusty mesa]

that's completely on how you want to play

do you want to run maps or do you want to run inscribed

[steel light]

what do u mean what i mean? 13 waves random on white map
are u asking for tree or scarab?

[split maple]

some mana stack payoffs like kboc from max mana, archmage support, mind of the council

[ocean field]

I don't know what white map gruelling gauntlet is

[ocean field]

tbh I lowkey just want to rush the ultimatum in the map

[frigid wedge]

neat

[coral summit]

you run just scoured t16s with gruelling gauntlet keystone, usually with svalinn cast while stunned setups

[dusty mesa]

but also, you probably won't be selling inscribed in standard too much

[split maple]

better glad with azadi nowadays

also cws

[normal hedge]

azadi crest*

[ocean field]

ohh

[coral summit]

ooh

thats true huh

[normal hedge]

svalinn poopoo caca

[brazen vector]

it does beat blood aqueduct

[ocean field]

uhh

[coral summit]

right old svalinn used to have triple lucky for fun or something huh

[ocean field]

I don't have cws

[lilac parcel]

the master crafter

[coral summit]

cuz it was bugged

[normal hedge]

no

[coral summit]

or was that just old glad block b4 it was fixed

[split maple]

nah that was glad

[normal hedge]

it was glad

[split maple]

glad was bugged

[steel light]

bribing x2 cata x1 inscribe x1 and do whatever u want with the last slot

[coral summit]

ok for some reason i thought both of them were bugged LOL

[split maple]

bribing does nothing

[frigid wedge]

can u config my necro

[ocean field]

oh ok

[split maple]

if running cata+inscr you dont care about rewards count as extra rounds

since all round rewards are fixed by scarbies

so the only thing you get from bribings is exp

[ocean field]

so basically I farm inscribed ultimatum in maps then run them?

[steel light]

doesn't it improve higher level drops since 4 waves higher?

[split maple]

which is kinda whatever

[split maple]

no

it would if not doing cata+inscr

[ocean field]

btw does this video still hold true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b83RqA5JBiY&t=140s

[split maple]

but cata already forces all rewards to be catas which are then converted to inscribings

and round number does not matter for inscribing rewards

[brazen vector]

send

[ocean field]

whatttt

[steel light]

what about stand your ground node?

[split maple]

just check emiracles smh

[normal hedge]

yes, travic is a great source and nothing changed about gruelling

[ocean field]

oh ok

[split maple]

it makes it faster to run since smaller area

round again dont matter since its cata+inscr

[tight plinth]

does caustic orb hit you when youre in prox shield?

[steel light]

why are u asking about ultimatum when u didn't even do basic research for ulti? 👀

[ocean field]

cause I am starting it

[normal hedge]

but thats not a gruelling video

[split maple]

so start with 2x bribing without grueling without catalyzing, optionaly with inscribing

since catalyzing is pricy af

so you want to learn ulti debuffs which you can take without it

[dapper parrot]

assume so

[split maple]

unless you doing azadi glad when they barely matter

[steel light]

so cata + inscribe and 3 slots left?

[split maple]

yea

can use preservation if cheaper than cata

[ocean field]

hmmm

ok

[coral summit]

hold on why on earth are manifolds so cheap early in the league

are there that few builds that can use them

[split maple]

bc barely any build uses manifols

like even cogworks and helicals are pretty budget early

and they get used a lot a lot more

[steel light]

2d vs 1d

[coral summit]

...how early can I fish for a reflected manifold LMAO

[split maple]

so dont use preserve

[ocean field]

Is this enough to run the ultimatum

[split maple]

depends on league how balanced they be

[tranquil umbra]

early in the league
Phrecia ends tomorrow bro

[ocean field]

cause I ain't using cws

[crisp obsidian]

damn so low amount of cards

[coral summit]

I was looking at early keepers prices

not phrecia prices LOL

[split maple]

dont do grueling

you cannot do ruin

[ocean field]

ah yes I knew that

[tranquil umbra]

that ruin that I hate

[lapis dove]

is the trickster build usually used for mapping?

[split maple]

so also dont do cata+inscr since its priced around grueling

[ocean field]

u need the svallin for that

[coral summit]

and straight up I think if reflecting mists are also cheap it would actually be worth to just like

once the core parts of the build are up

[split maple]

do 2xbribing + inscribing instead

[lapis dove]

oh just the person i was looking for lol

[coral summit]

just yolo manifolds for the mods I want cuz hitting t1 life+t1 flat fire or wed is cheap as SHIT

[ocean field]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/currency/ultimatum-currency-strategy so this one

[coral summit]

the goal is 3p t1 life+elemental mod+mana cost, -dead mod and aspect

[lapis dove]

sorry can you send me a link for the trickster build?

[dapper parrot]

imagine they make mists more common as well

[coral summit]

and if mists are like... doable that early on

and i dont take 30 tries

[dusty mesa]

who is milkybk

[split maple]

Mists are pretty cheap first weekend

They kinda good investment

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/qVD2PbM1OHdt

[dapper parrot]

its 1 in 10 for 3 mod i think, even better for 2 mod youll be fine

[lapis dove]

thanks!

[coral summit]

thats just a ring with like 350 life and 120% inc dmg/10% more added flat and mana costs solved forever

[split maple]

That's like 1 in 8 ish?

Idk

[coral summit]

which on a lifestacker

is breddy gud

[split maple]

I want to mist my ring but I don't want to farm essences :/

Like getting enough scorns is royal pain even with harvest rerolling

[crimson hearth]

could blight pay out without investing alot

[coral summit]

...hmm

okay it looks like mists are still probably too expensive for that particular upgrade that early in week 1

[crimson hearth]

like some currency my main focus is gold tho

[tranquil sedge]

why do you not want to invest

[coral summit]

relative to other stuff

[tranquil sedge]

its not like ur losing money

even if you just break even, if you get more gold, that's still a net win?

and if u profit, even more so?

[split maple]

How much of a build you got rn

Since for Gold you kinda want to run bloodlines invigo

[crimson hearth]

if you mean scarabs yes theres none on console dead league if there are any like 2d each for the good ones

[dusty mesa]

I had no idea this was a thing