1┃general

[prime hill]

while 0.2 was a dogshit league

[fossil mural]

You dont have the data

To say anything on the matter

[past mantle]

What a useless converstaion.

[prime hill]

[fossil mural]

In my restless dreams

I see self cast

[past mantle]

The Breach rings were a good addition for stacking because they ask you to stack a specific damage stat and the benefit is mostly offensive. You get a defence boost but getting 100% effect on Purity of Fire or Determination isn't going to solve your defensive shell.
Also have some kind of downside, isn't that crazy.

[brazen vector]

Tbh the whole temple grinding thing really turned me down from playing poe2

[split maple]

wait am i halucinating or smh

do woke enlighten and enlighten rly both give 88% on lvl4

so if you dont hit corrupt on woke its basically useless

[pulsar dune]

yep

[tawdry olive]

well yea, but woke enlighten has the potential to go higher

[prime hill]

yeah thats the entire point

[brazen vector]

Correct

[split maple]

okay umaven is so not on the menu now

[past mantle]

Yeah, that's the idea.

[past rain]

does awakener orb reroll the values of influence mods

[split maple]

inside tier yea

dont divine before woker

[prime hill]

I like being rewarded for the grind and time I put into something

which isn't the case with poe 1 in keepers

😔

poverty league fr

[brazen vector]

Keepers didnt feel so bad after all, idk

[steel light]

cause there's there's lvl 5 for awakened that's 84%

[prime hill]

I had 200ish divs dropped on my ring when I had 7 mirrors

idk farming strats were really not rewarding

I just gamba'd and crafted

then did bosses

atleast I had like 25k transmutes picked

good league

[brazen vector]

Sounds like you got your moneys worth out of keepers then?

[fossil mural]

Why

[prime hill]

I'd rather get there by mapping

or doing fun strats

which, there were lack of in keepers

[tawdry olive]

if im being honest here, there were rewarding strats, think people were just miffed at most of them not being new, and worse than 3.26 in direct comparisons due to other nerfs

invigoration blight was still a thing

woke harvest

etc

[brazen vector]

Because GGG didnt know what temple was supposed to be, so I skipped it and now there is no point in setting one up and I cba to install poe2 again

Wake me up when 1.0 hits in 5 years

[past mantle]

Yep, exactly that.

[prime hill]

woke harvest only got good around 2 weeks in, which is the usual

[fossil mural]

Temple was still the best farming strat in the game at basically every point

Even befote the buffs

People just hadnt learned it

[brazen vector]

Okay, but I dont like the temple

[prime hill]

blight is there, but I do blight to both test my build and maybe see loot explosion

and most effective blight farm was still scarabs

[fossil mural]

Sure

[prime hill]

I love farming scarabs

[fossil mural]

1.0 is this year

[brazen vector]

Cope harder

[fossil mural]

Bro doesnt know

[sand grove]

i just asked help on a t16 and 3 ppl came to help buti myself crashed when i opened the map-

[split maple]

incr aoe has no payoff until you hit next 0.1m breakpoint right? kboc for context but idk also if that differs by skill

[brazen vector]

What does "bro" not know

Enlighten me

[bronze falcon]

does 3.28 have a launch date?

[prime hill]

but yeah ill be honest

[hybrid harness]

6st

[prime hill]

keepers was one league I felt like I didn't deserve my progression with how lucky I was

[hybrid harness]

of march

[past mantle]

Yeah, lemme double check which exact date.

[prime hill]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past mantle]

6th okay, I thought 5th.

[bronze falcon]

aw man

[prime hill]

if you drop an apothecary day 2 and know how to use that boost

you're set for whole league

lmao

[steel light]

https://poedb.tw/us/ header has end of league dates, launch dates and stash sale date

[past mantle]

I will invest into locks and shards.

[fossil mural]

Yes you click

Harvest gamba

[prime hill]

nah

just craft

and turn that 25 divs into half a mirror

in a day

[fossil mural]

Or turn it into 10 mirrors

Your choice

[ember goblet]

also consider smaller good currencies like influence orbs, awa orb, conflict, exceptional eldritch

[prime hill]

true

I'd hate myself tho

I play poe to play the game, not sit in hideout whole league

[fossil mural]

Lmao

[inner prawn]

harvest gamba and poof it on the first try.

[past mantle]

Conflicts and awakened ones were the ones I invested into early but they reach a ceiling in a week.

[fossil mural]

Dis is da wey

[steel light]

skill issue

[prime hill]

maybe I should pay 2$ for wealthy exile so I have lifetime

would be a funny league to show

[inner prawn]

i got 6 magebloods from gamba this league so not a skill issue on my end, gambling on leaguestart is pepega though.

[viscid ruin]

path of COPExile 😭

[fickle glen]

How does one tell the radius of a jewel without equipping it?

[normal hedge]

Pob

[tawdry olive]

chaos/div arbitrage is a pathway to many profits some consider to be... unnatural

[fickle glen]

So that’s a no

[fossil mural]

Know by heart

Radius

[prime hill]

certainly not the reason of gold carries were expensive

[fickle glen]

Anyway, does witch bane jewel Make you immune to curses forever with the hex master keystone?

[prime hill]

for people that couldn't do blight

[fickle glen]

That’s also a no

[fossil mural]

Use one of these bad boys

[steel light]

recomb/kingsmarch/async

[prime hill]

yup

[fickle glen]

Radius goes by small/medium/large

Not actual centimeters

[prime hill]

main scaling factor was how much money you could make with currency exchange flipping tho

or recombs

[steel light]

💰

[fossil mural]

Yes but you can still measure it and then apply

[prime hill]

goddamn mbs are 140d now?

[fickle glen]

Your forehead needs a smack

[fossil mural]

Skill issue

[soft perch]

@onyx adder got myself a zinger tower box meal

I’m afraid it’s peak

Also got a cookie

[fossil mural]

Is this one of those epstein island code phrases

[steel light]

around there, it's 74d in standard

[soft perch]

Yea it’s pob island where we keep good builds away from u specifically

I’m gonna miss oshabi

Oshabi is one of the phrecia ascendancies that would be very competitive in the main game

[onyx adder]

Yea if u voluntarily eat kfc ur a pedo

[soft perch]

LMFAO

[fossil mural]

What about rosticks

[steel light]

use sacred blossom to meet her in the future

[soft perch]

What even is Australian cuisine

Kangaroo steaks and fire ants

[onyx adder]

Its all asian food

But actual asian food

[fossil mural]

And say gex

[soft perch]

I eat my body weight in sushi weekly

[onyx adder]

Australia doesnt have homegrown cuisine we have 200 years of british food which we threw out when the asians invaded

[soft perch]

I will die of mercury poisoning soon

[onyx adder]

For good reason

[tawdry olive]

bri'ish food...

[fossil mural]

Australians were too busy figting to survive

[tawdry olive]

my friend was raving bout the halal snack pack when he went to straya

[fossil mural]

To develope a national cuisine

[onyx adder]

Its good if ur drunk

For 3.7 minutes after purchase

[soft perch]

Alcohol is so overrated I prefer stimulants

[onyx adder]

So u need like 4 people to eat it super fast before the chips get soggy

[soft perch]

So I can function like a normal human being

[stoic horizon]

fairy bread and vegemite toast

[soft perch]

Ok true the Australians can’t claim food supremacy over anyone

Because of Vegemite’s existence

[tawdry olive]

we have this instead

which i think is pretty much the same thing

[soft perch]

I pretend marmite doesn’t exist

[onyx adder]

Its not

[soft perch]

The less I think about it the better

[onyx adder]

Marmite texture is 0/10

Its like snot

[soft perch]

They’re both disgusting

[fossil mural]

Ussr got buckwheat

[tight plinth]

everything about marmite is 0/10

[onyx adder]

In important food news i finally found a good recipe to make skillet cornbread

Cornbread is actually the nuts

[soft perch]

Good take

[tight plinth]

agreed

[soft perch]

I quite like potato bread as well

[tawdry olive]

damn, think it makes for some good dishes though, stuff like this

[soft perch]

Bread in general is broken op

[crisp obsidian]

I am modmailing.

[tight plinth]

bread is the goat

savory, sweet it doesnt matter

[soft perch]

Carbmaxxing is peak

[soft perch]

We had like two poe discussions today it was enough

And we beat the same dead horses that have been beaten for years

Selfcast bad

[onyx adder]

I bet the mods like kfc

[tawdry olive]

I'm sorry i'm obligated to espouse rice supremacy as an asian

[crisp obsidian]

Oh you guys misunderstood, I am mailing the mods

[soft perch]

I am the whitest human male of all time

Therefore I eat copious amounts of bread

[tight plinth]

all this time i thought you were cool

[stoic horizon]

bread and tortillas are my lifeblood

[soft perch]

I have headcanons of various people

I am so sure spikey has a gigantic fluffy curly Afro

He just seems like he’d have big puffy hair

And look like toad

[stoic horizon]

spikey is secretly pohx

[tight plinth]

same

db is a chinese man with wispy facial hair in my head

[soft perch]

Lmao

[bold scarab]

I am just a fly or an annoying rat probably

[soft perch]

wtd is bald

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/slayer-ele-hit-penance ok adjusted the pob to this pathing looks indeed much better (adjusted the pathing tad further as you removed my flask uptime xd)

[tight plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-master-nod-agree-beard-gif-17299924

[prime hill]

I'm just a capybara

nothing to see here

[soft perch]

I think of you as an ai created to post bad takes in the chat

[stoic horizon]

im a dog (or sometimes a cat)

[karmic gust]

losing vita void is kinda sad

but oh wel

[soft perch]

As far as I’m aware you’re not real

[soft perch]

Did it gain block

[bold scarab]

Don't make me have an identity crisis /j

[karmic gust]

yea

[soft perch]

Yea I grabbed the flask nodes

At the bottom

The duration ones

[karmic gust]

from the link i was looking at before you didnt but maybe i just missed them

[soft perch]

I only looked at it for 5 minutes and thought block should be clicked

Yea I changed it after

[karmic gust]

also this mastery is kinda cute

[soft perch]

It is ye

I think it’s very strong

[karmic gust]

yea and with penance mark it should be at least like 15% attack speed consistently

15-20

[soft perch]

It’s a ton of clearspeed and comfort especially on low gear

Rues build especially was much better with it

Cuz it was VERY melee

[tawdry olive]

can you increase the range of Close Range

[soft perch]

No

It’s 2 meters I think

[whole bluff]

If spells remain in their current state, I'll just either struggle with spellslinger, jiquani, eblade hodge podge or wait for someone to make a good PoB, and if spells change I can't theorycraft on that now 😭

[soft perch]

If selfcast gets buffed then jiquani goes nuclear

[whole bluff]

Yup

[soft perch]

Impending doom probably still excellent cuz helm still in the game

[tranquil sedge]

where is the teaser for today

[soft perch]

And can jiquani id

[tranquil sedge]

come on ggg

[soft perch]

Check back in 12 hours

[whole bluff]

It was nice, but I wanted to do ignite when I was on that

[tranquil sedge]

somebody go make a post on reddit announcing that ur going to bed

and go sleep for a while

it'll summon a teaser

[soft perch]

Pretty sure the kiwis are not at work yet no?

Or it’s like late

[tranquil sedge]

ye they're not

[whole bluff]

And igniting with spells, you really wanted to make difficult more difficult

[tranquil sedge]

its like 2 am there

[karmic gust]

did ppl realized already how strong jiquani is, i def heard a lot more ppl talk about it here at least recently

[stoic horizon]

yeah it was played a lot in phrecia

[karmic gust]

yea decent usage i guess

compared to keepers at least xd

[whole bluff]

I tried to point out to a bunch of people it's so strong, wonky and unexplored that if you actually wanna play PoE the way many dream of, while also actually being good at it. Jiquani is your chance. Now. But that was a few months ago maybe

[karmic gust]

yea i still have the assa jiquani pobs somewhere

[stoic horizon]

definetly boosted up in numbers because lance played it

[karmic gust]

https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/ass-jiquani lul

idr how much damage this even did i think 600M?

[tight plinth]

its kinda competing with fb hotm

[tranquil pine]

as a starter should i play POE 2 or 1? played 1 for a bit and reached act 4 and i enjoyed it

[soft perch]

Jiq was good in phrecia cuz of free shavs

From scav

[karmic gust]

yea i guess that makes starting it less annoying

[stoic horizon]

play whichever will get new season sooner, which in this case is poe1

[tight plinth]

so whats the problem if you enjoyed 1?

[tranquil sedge]

well the new season for poe1 starts 6th march
try it then

[tawdry olive]

if youre already at act 4 you might as well continue

[tranquil pine]

that was settlers league

[karmic gust]

they should make mask easierr to get as the item is rly good with mask as well

[tranquil sedge]

also ur asking in the poe1 chat

not really sure what you expect lol

[tranquil pine]

that character is wiped i think

[soft perch]

Jiq has horrible cast speed issues

[tranquil sedge]

poe1 players will tell u to enjoy poe1

poe2 players will tell u to enjoy poe2

[tranquil pine]

i played in that league

[tawdry olive]

completely objective and unbiased opinions frfr 👍

[tranquil sedge]

i wouldn't start a new build now personally

3.27 ends on 2nd march

3.28 starts on 6th march

wait for that imo if u can be patient

[karmic gust]

you solve cast speed on clusters anyway eventually

so its fine

[civic charm]

Jiq being blood magic makes it soso

[karmic gust]

i think

[stoic horizon]

excluding some special events, characters arent wiped, just pushed to permanent server

[tranquil pine]

ohh ok

[karmic gust]

requires op clusters tho

[tranquil sedge]

it actually makes it pretty good in at least one way, fk mana issues 😄

[soft perch]

ya

[tranquil sedge]

whats with the two different 6l 😮

single target vs clear?

[karmic gust]

yea

[tranquil pine]

any major differences between 2 and 1?

[karmic gust]

splitting for clear and normal for single

if bows can do it casters can too surely :d

[tranquil pine]

i might just go play 1 if its basically the same

[tranquil sedge]

completely different games with different design philosophies

[tight plinth]

^

[tranquil pine]

nevermind haha

[soft perch]

lul

[tranquil sedge]

if they were the same there would be no point in making a poe2

[karmic gust]

issue is that caster clear skills usually suck

but with ice spear i think double 6l is perfect

[tranquil pine]

could you list a couple of things?

[tight plinth]

both are good, if you already enjoyed 1, play 1 until you dont enjoy it anymore

[civic charm]

Run vaal arc with jiquanis

[soft perch]

i dont think id touch jiquani outside of mines unless i had incredible gear

[tranquil sedge]

everything, new characters, ascendencies, skills, supports, passive tree, campaign, endgame systems, crafting mechanics, socket systems, game speed

[soft perch]

even then its kinda slow

and a bit on the squishy side

[karmic gust]

well you can do unleash memes too right

[tranquil pine]

i was following a minion / skeleton summon build

it was

[karmic gust]

with uh

[tranquil pine]

HOLY RELIC OF CONVICTION

[karmic gust]

oshabi?

[split maple]

looks like you enjoy poe1 gele

so play it

dont worry too much

[tranquil sedge]

yea lets just go with that ^

[split maple]

try poe2 if you want when you want

[tranquil pine]

im going to start over i think

[karmic gust]

bascially miner anyway :d and pretty srue 1 ice spear unleash wtih jiquani would delete anytbing anyway

[tranquil pine]

does any build work? even the older ones?

[stoic horizon]

depends

[split maple]

eh i would stick to some maxroll guide if fresh

[karmic gust]

but miner or trapper sounds fun too

[split maple]

or rf chief if tired hands

[karmic gust]

could actually do sabo magma orb jiquani mines

[soft perch]

ice spear + ice spear of splitting miner

[split maple]

or just go in blind and mess up a few times, thats fun & league ending soon anywayse

[soft perch]

wait ice spear of splitting mines sounds so fuckin fun

[karmic gust]

yea it does :d

[tranquil pine]

any necromancer builds that are semi easy to work towards

im just trying to get to know the game

for 1 week then starting the new league

[split maple]

kboc necro is hot this league

idk what folks do super early

i wouldnt do wands before maps for sure

[soft perch]

fusillade is extremely good for levelling and early maps

kinetic bolt totems are a good single target solve

[split maple]

you dont have gear for that on legstart

[soft perch]

for kb

[tranquil pine]

3 months ago

[stoic horizon]

ice spear has meh single target but yeah the skill is cool

[split maple]

and dude is starting fresh

[soft perch]

yes u do

[tranquil pine]

build upload date

[soft perch]

fusillade is extremely good for levelling and early maps

[tranquil pine]

that is usable

?

[split maple]

you need them reduced dur unique rings rite?

[soft perch]

no

[split maple]

they common but still

[soft perch]

fusillade with less duration is more than enough for campaign and early maps

[split maple]

checks out, roughly then leg started yea

[soft perch]

its a very strong skill

[split maple]

fair, i didnt dig too much into it

[tranquil pine]

can anyone like DM me with some help?

instead of me flooding this chat

[soft perch]

less duration stacking is for holding the button down permanently

[stoic horizon]

just go to new player help chat

[soft perch]

u can play fusillade where u tap the skill twice and then pause for a little bit and get into a rhythm of it

its very good even at that point

its a little clunky sure

but the skill has like

autoaim and a ton of other shit and a bunch of chains

[tranquil pine]

oh i see them now im blind

[soft perch]

and a lot of damage

[tranquil pine]

thanks for the help though

[split maple]

like pizzastick totems level of clunk or roling magma or sunder level of clunk?

[soft perch]

less clunky than all of them imo

[karmic gust]

close to rolling magma clunk from my experience but not as bad

[civic charm]

Bro everyone and their mother is gonna be playing kf

[karmic gust]

its very strong leveling skill for sure tho

[soft perch]

also a lot more damage than rolling magma

[karmic gust]

yea

[stoic horizon]

just the fact that you have to hold and release the skill and not just spam

[split maple]

if patchies are good to it we shall see next leg ig 😄

assuming slams are dedge, i am not going to bait myself into not starting slams again

[fossil mural]

Explodes on each hit

[soft perch]

i will bait myself into starting ele hit

because its not bait

its a really good skill

[steel light]

outside of keepers, can you vaal orb a portal gem in hope it turns into vaal breach?

[soft perch]

no

[civic charm]

Why would you want vaal beach?

[fossil mural]

Vaal portal will be missed

[fossil mural]

Corpse explode and prolifs

Or splash stuff

Basically bodies to bounce off of

Very good for certain builds

[split maple]

is vaal breach gonna be just gonne now with breach going core

[fossil mural]

I hope not

[split maple]

like cards are rn still dropable in standard right?

[karmic gust]

they will make fireball explode on every hit next league trust

[steel light]

cast when stunned

[karmic gust]

then everyone is starting caster

[fossil mural]

too op, would have to make it unplayable as self cast

[dark sequoia]

whats a non-projectile strike skill to play if I hate strikes

Mamba looks fun but maybe expensive

[fossil mural]

ele hit KEKL

[karmic gust]

ele hit, mamba

[pulsar dune]

What facet of strikes do you dislike?

[tranquil umbra]

flicker

[split maple]

one of boneshatters

[civic charm]

Frost blades

[leaden gust]

just make more farms viable and create more upper tier farming that makes a lot more

[fossil mural]

frozen legion

[dark sequoia]

Namelock and not feeling good until you get additional strike targets

[karmic gust]

boneshatter of caranage only good boneshatter

[split maple]

bone of complex has kinda comfy legstart

but lategame i wouldnt want to do any boneshatter anywayse 😛

[pulsar dune]

Hm, pre-additional targets you're just kinda doomed probably

[karmic gust]

wouldnt carnage with trauma be comfier start

[civic charm]

So would you run KF elementalist or fb warden for a league start?

[dark sequoia]

Something with Trauma and Potcg sounds like it could be fun...
Carnage with Trauma Support

[karmic gust]

also boneshatter scales quite well ngl

[civic charm]

If you had to pick

[split maple]

isnt your entire single target stick in that pob using hateful accuser

[karmic gust]

ele hit is just better now but

[soft perch]

complex trauma is good too?

[karmic gust]

well carnage + trauma does more damage than complex trauma baseline pretty sure

but yea

[dark sequoia]

well it should youre using a support gem

[split maple]

like i pobed only briefly but i hit what 5mil on bleed bone of complex using pretty much vendor recipe + bench axe

and thats a 4voids comfyness

[karmic gust]

ah bleed

why would you do that when you can just play some random slam bleed tho

[dark sequoia]

Bleed bone is a thing?
I thought having to ramp up trauma would be bad

[split maple]

only pobed that on assumption slams are dedge

[soft perch]

can trauma support even support carnage boneshatter

it doesnt support normal boneshatter

[split maple]

if earthshatter is allright i am doing earthshatter

[split maple]

complex only has 10 stacks

and you lose them on reaching 10

[dark sequoia]

Ah

[split maple]

so bleed removes the yank

[karmic gust]

yea it cant because of this

but carnage doesnt have trauma mechanic

[soft perch]

is this something that actually works ingame

cuz theres some skill weirdness

[dark sequoia]

Okay how about

Trauma Static Strike

and you get a lot of duration
and runegraft of the warp for buff expiry

[tranquil umbra]

does trauma support give you flashbacks of the war in the game

[karmic gust]

unless these ppl are stupid yea it should

[split maple]

emm thats 4 characters using trauma

like it should work but rather low sample 😄

[dark sequoia]

Does trauma snapshot or is it dynamic?

[karmic gust]

there is nothing to snapshot about trauma

dots do

[dark sequoia]

Can you like, have a low level trauma on a double strike of momentum and then have a high level trauma on static strike, and bonk with static strike once every 10 seconds or so

[karmic gust]

sure trauma are just stacks on you

[dark sequoia]

And the static strike damage updates

[karmic gust]

and then effects on stuff that is based on those stacks

[split maple]

"Skills that gain bonuses based on your Trauma stacks do not care about the source of that trauma; for example, if you use

Boneshatter
to generate trauma, skills supported by

Trauma Support
will still be granted added Physical Damage even if they themselves did not generate the trauma."

[karmic gust]

static strike snapshots

by itself

[split maple]

fuck does poewiki mess up the copy paste on links

[fossil mural]

just ss

[dark sequoia]

Like

I want to turn on static strike, then build a bunch of trauma with another faster hitting skill

[split maple]

here you go

idk why you wanted that

[fossil mural]

see

thats how you use it

[karmic gust]

anyway it works

[split maple]

better?

[karmic gust]

luckily noone uses carnage so it was 5c in std instead of standard 30 divs for trans gem xd

[dark sequoia]

so this wont work

but I can build up a bunch of trauma and then use static strike with long duration and run around

[karmic gust]

@soft perch

[dark sequoia]

Wait do generals cry use your trauma and keep the static around

[karmic gust]

you need to do it the other way aroud

build the stacks then snapshot with static strike

[soft perch]

neat

dnno why i never pobbed trauma behemoth facebreakers for phrecia

i kinad forgot trauma support existed

[karmic gust]

doenst trauma support require same weps as boneshatter

[soft perch]

aaand it doesnt work with unarmed

[dark sequoia]

Stupid idea:

Jugg
FF the chieftain warcry power node
Double Strike of Momentum Trauma
General's Cry Static Strike Trauma

[split maple]

i rly want trauma to work with wands

for reasons

[dark sequoia]

I want a unique driftwood wand that has no stats except that it also counts as a melee weapon.

It's just a stick.

[soft perch]

i remember the funny bug meta where u could dual wield wands with any weps

that was peak

[ornate patrol]

Cool idea

[opal ingot]

what were the crazy things u could do with it

like wand and a 2h wep somehow working?

[dark sequoia]

Maybe 'counts as a mace' to not step on varunastra

[karmic gust]

ppl just did pconc with it

[opal ingot]

lol

[karmic gust]

so pretty lame

[soft perch]

nah this was ages ago

there was tons of setups

mjolner + wand

people cycloning with obliteration in offhand

[dark sequoia]

Unarmed with Wand Skills

[karmic gust]

ah, idk then

but the pconc thing was similar

[tawdry olive]

did anyone find success with econc this league

it got giganerfed i know

[soft perch]

i made a howa build with piscators

that was fun

[split maple]

too lazy too figure out proper wording

[soft perch]

or something like that

[split maple]

would be a cool one

[karmic gust]

people would use it just to get the wand masterry for sure :d

[ocean field]

@normal hedge

brooo

I tried your COC

[ornate patrol]

[karmic gust]

dont try other ppls cocs

[split maple]

[karmic gust]

thats kinda rude

[ornate patrol]

What if they consent

[ocean field]

your COC not enough damage

COC very clunky

[normal hedge]

i dont think you did it right

[split maple]

did you mess up your COC breakpoints glaza

[ocean field]

No

but overall I can get his COC up

[normal hedge]

its like 100% chance you did something wrong

[karmic gust]

true, i dont mind when ppl share their cocs

[frigid wedge]

franz send the pob

[ocean field]

wait I send pob

[normal hedge]

1st reason is u're a shadow

[split maple]

kinda cute how defensive rilay is bout that COC

[normal hedge]

and not a witch

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[karmic gust]

if you can play with it well it doesnt matter that its not very big coc setup

[tawdry olive]

witch COC.....

[normal hedge]

theres only one coc

[split maple]

i sure hope so, otherwise you should go see doctor

[frigid wedge]

chains of command

[karmic gust]

idk i heard that some people prefer double coc

[brazen vector]

REAL AND BASED

[normal hedge]

thats choco not coc

[brazen vector]

[normal hedge]

🙁

[pseudo axle]

the only coc for me

[rough tulip]

the amount of cocs is only limited by your pob freakness

[brazen vector]

Bukkake league?

[normal hedge]

where is it

[ocean field]

coming

[normal hedge]

the coc?

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/6mEYVdBOXLGK

[normal hedge]

bruh

the very first thing i see is a 3mod dagger

[brazen vector]

Where is the ehp

[ocean field]

inf

[rough tulip]

dont need ehp if everything is dead

[ocean field]

yeah I know more mod gonna be hella expensive

[rough tulip]

(including yourself prob)

[normal hedge]

your percursor has 0 mods

[frigid wedge]

alesia no

[normal hedge]

icant

[brazen vector]

Not with 45m dps

[ocean field]

bro this is missing like 50m damage

[normal hedge]

yeah its all wrong

[frigid wedge]

isnt ur dagger meant to have gem levels

[normal hedge]

no wonder its bad

[rough tulip]

just need to believe

[ocean field]

anything else than the precursoer

[short prairie]

Scion rework

[normal hedge]

Senses rework

From strikes -> RF Scion

[short prairie]

[brazen vector]

Ill send my coc in a bit

[normal hedge]

please dont send your coc here

[short prairie]

Flicker scion

[rough tulip]

please do

[ocean field]

+1 gem level is like 1m extra only

gng I think there is a underlying issue of using this with trickster

or assasin in this case

[frigid wedge]

u need cdrr for CoC btw

[ocean field]

got it

coc is perfect

[normal hedge]

he has 10 trigger rate

[ocean field]

issue is no damage

[normal hedge]

but the gear is all over the place

[frigid wedge]

more es

go!

[pulsar dune]

Take the mastery that gives crit gems more levels

It's a lot of cdr

When woke coc

[scarlet jacinth]

Triggere are all good? Cdr is setup right?

[frigid wedge]

eventually glazer will learn that int stacking matters

for es builds

[scarlet jacinth]

We love stackers here

[frigid wedge]

and stop hiding from it

[ocean field]

true

[tawdry olive]

every build could use another 1000 int

[ocean field]

damm

[scarlet jacinth]

Stackers kinda scary tho

[whole bluff]

@ocean field doesn't know?

[sterile depot]

Please nuke stat stackers from orbit, sincerely - everyone 😄

[ocean field]

I know

I also know it is too expensive

[whole bluff]

It OP

[frigid wedge]

he has an irrational fear of money

[ocean field]

Gng the goal is the extract max damage with min budget

[tawdry olive]

GGG: got it, aristocrat has been added to the base game

[scarlet jacinth]

Don't you have one too Eri?

[whole bluff]

Think like this, small ES node 6% ES, int notable 6% ES. Int gives other stuff too

[sterile depot]

If they add aristocrat, surely all other means of stat stacking are nerfed... SURELY.. right? 🙂

[ocean field]

this is first and only league shit I didn;t even play precia to save up

[whole bluff]

Every point on the way somewhere for int chars gives 2% ES

[crisp obsidian]

remove all attris from tree

ez fix

[tawdry olive]

make everyone price of glory enjoyers

[whole bluff]

If you have 300 int just from existing, int wheel is 70 flat and 8% inc. That totals 99 int. That's like 20% ES

[brazen vector]

https://pobb.in/wz4Dl5Q6auvR my cocc fross

[whole bluff]

And you can also make it 20% evasion. And some flat accuracy

Int is OP

[scarlet jacinth]

😮 someone send their coc

[brazen vector]

the weapon is super easy to craft btw

[scarlet jacinth]

But where minion build?

[tawdry olive]

GGG seems to love this asymmetrical design thing, like how fire res is also OP

[scarlet jacinth]

How is fire res op?

[whole bluff]

When int chars, if they ever even need to, pick up ES nodes, they need to include the ES increases from pathing in the calculation

[tawdry olive]

tempered by war

[brazen vector]

over cap fire res mod, over cap fire res regen mastery

[tawdry olive]

and yea

that too

it just has a couple things going for it alone

[pulsar dune]

Enmity

[ocean field]

hmm

[scarlet jacinth]

Wouldn't say its really that op.

[ocean field]

after seeing yours I can come to the conclusion COC does not work on assassin

[normal hedge]

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/lpRxBENO0SPN

[brazen vector]

there is a reason why the 28k fire res chest is so sought after

[karmic gust]

anything tht just gives you 28k of something ranodmly will be sought after

[scarlet jacinth]

I mean yea but that's a legacy isn't it?

[pulsar dune]

Aren't spell crit essences usually pretty pricey. Redoing the rolling every failed reforge seems rough.

[karmic gust]

any stat in the game that you get 28k of from 1 item is turbo broken

[brazen vector]

no idea, just dont be poor, idk what mode glazer is playing

[whole bluff]

Like Written in Blood is a nice ES node for 2 points usually if you have CI, giving strength which you might need. If you go to Lethe Shade, you need to actually consider if pathing 1 int node (2% ES) is worth over pathing 2 ES nodes (10% ES). If this were life nodes, there'd be no question, you drop 1 travel node and click 2 life nodes. But int is OP

[tawdry olive]

even if you say its not OP in general, i brought up the asymmetrical design thing because its definitely better in the current game state compared to the other resistances for what it can give you/do

[elder marlin]

How does runegraft of refraction interct with ice spear of splitting?

[tranquil sedge]

i want some love for cold type lol

like where's the 50% of elemental damage taken converted to cold keystone

there's one for fire and one for lightning

[karmic gust]

its flask

[tranquil sedge]

where cold at

[brazen vector]

right, we have the lightning res stackers too now

[karmic gust]

and there is none for lightning

[brazen vector]

where cold res stackers

[tranquil sedge]

huh

[normal hedge]

choir

[shrewd scarab]

y'all got anymore of those poe1 league teaser updates...

[tranquil sedge]

wait

[karmic gust]

armour stackers use cold and fire res chest no

[tranquil sedge]

dam i musta confused smth else then

[brazen vector]

double fb choir is giga strink with a ton of lightning res + overcap lightning res

[brazen vector]

not anymore

[tranquil sedge]

forget lightning that has coil anyway so thats okay, thats what i was thinking of

but ye cold

[elder marlin]

How does runegraft of refraction interact with ice spear of splitting?

[brazen vector]

you get more out of a recombed necrotic with overcapped fire res than having both exclusive mods on a breach chest

[tawdry olive]

you need to make a post on reddit now declaring your intention to go to sleep, and then take one for the team

[tranquil sedge]

previous one was scion slowly walking off to the side

is the next one gonna be cassia

[shrewd scarab]

I know this magic, but sadly I am erm... working... erm yeah working from home

[pulsar dune]

Should do the broken thing afaik

[shrewd scarab]

working hard 👍🏻

[pulsar dune]

Don't even lose global proj afaik

[brazen vector]

working hard or hardly working

[elder marlin]

So refraction+ice spear of splitting gud?

[tranquil sedge]

working while hard

[tawdry olive]

on their CoC

[brazen vector]

[whole bluff]

Hardly working, while hard

[karmic gust]

should be pretty good yes like with any other similar skill

[pulsar dune]

Yea, tho usually you'd run that skill with ice spear, which would be bad with refraction

[shrewd scarab]

anyway, I haven't got time to sit and keep checking for poe1 league teasers - serious work to do... soon as I've made another coffee, then work. Yeah that'll do it. But I'll just check for another teaser before I do start the work, just incase.

[whole bluff]

Also naptime soon.

Then gotta walk dog. Plus go to bathroom.

[elder marlin]

Im coc the ice spear of splitting bc i cant afford to get pierce

[shrewd scarab]

all of these are true and need doing, I don't know how I am going to fit work in before the end of day

[whole bluff]

There's always a day tomorrow

I am in school but hardly studying. Telling myself just being around these people from a background I didn't think existed in Sweden is eye opening + therapeutic though

[brazen vector]

My therapy ended so I can yap again

[tawdry olive]

its ok you can shitpost on discord while on the toilet, really synergistic, definitely an increase in productivity

[dusty mesa]

whats the meta stat stacker this league, not including phrecia

[tawdry olive]

int/acc stacking

[dusty mesa]

hmmm

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/8ygevG8AVpRB With all the changes you mentioned @normal hedge

[shrewd scarab]

think I'm going to do msoz next league no matter what is released. Currently got a Jugg MSoZ but is that the strongest ascendency for it? str stacking using crown of eyes etc, or is there a better version?

[brazen vector]

Looks decent enough

[ocean field]

yeah this does not exist

[normal hedge]

that precursor now is around 2 mirrors

[ocean field]

yeah how do expect me to get that

[normal hedge]

dont rely on something you wont press

also

[ocean field]

I do press that tho

[normal hedge]

theres a reason why everyone uses movement speed flasks

[brazen vector]

Thats 7 mods

[ocean field]

yeah that is what I said

that it does not exist

[normal hedge]

yeah because you shouldnt need local crit chance

[tawdry olive]

yes. i believe there are some trickster CI MS variants at giga investment for valdo farming, but jugg is the tried and true

[ocean field]

hmm

[trim sleet]

@rose totem its time to go back to the begining lets go

[brazen vector]

Mine is a veiled spelldamage + 5% whatever veiled hybrid mod, so maybe you confused it with that

[ocean field]

assasin benifits from local crit

[dusty mesa]

if wands stay untouched I may make an int stacker

[tranquil sedge]

this build isn't expensive enough to justify buying 6/20 woke gmp btw, just settle for 5/20

unless 6/20 is dirt fkin cheap or something

[normal hedge]

you also dont have a source of unholy might

[ocean field]

I get what you mean I just made this as a extreme situtation

[tranquil sedge]

why does he need unholy might

balance of terror for wither

[ocean field]

overall yes weapon is expensive af

that is the main issue

[tranquil sedge]

sounds like a fun crafting project

[normal hedge]

i didnt see that

[ocean field]

I just got off recombing

why

[normal hedge]

no it was me

[brazen vector]

Just fracture the +1, hit the 5th essence, veiled chaos, craft cannot be evaded

Ezpz

[normal hedge]

nvm

[brazen vector]

Not hard at all to craft

[tranquil sedge]

which mod here is not to be considered

[brazen vector]

Local crit

[tranquil sedge]

okay

[normal hedge]

spell crit

[brazen vector]

You want
Fractured +1
Veiled spell damage
Hits cannot be evaded
Spell crit
Crit multi
Ias

[normal hedge]

not on assassin

[brazen vector]

Fuck assassin

[tranquil sedge]

but he is an assassin lol

[normal hedge]

iits trickster glazer, not me

[brazen vector]

Why play shit when occy exists

[normal hedge]

i agree with that

[brazen vector]

Yea but assassin isn't trickster so who cares

Might as well go occy

[normal hedge]

trickster glazer cares

[brazen vector]

Trickster glazer is following wrong principles

[normal hedge]

hes following the glaze

because shadow is a twink

[native abyss]

glazed doughnut mmm

[brazen vector]

If he likes assassin so much he should be called assassinGlazer

[ocean field]

U see

[tranquil sedge]

i put that into the gif search box

[brazen vector]

And marauder is a femboy so what

[tranquil sedge]

you get some nsfw results

[native abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/drip-squad-saltigue-jurrassic420-landfall-games-landfall-gif-20987904

[normal hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/donut-burger-junk-food

[tranquil sedge]

and templar is an exhibitionist

[ocean field]

trickster exists in soul as forbidden flame escape artist

[normal hedge]

i would eat that rn

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/america-hurricane-3

[native abyss]

bruh doughnut bun for a burger looks so good wtf

[brazen vector]

Exactly, thats why I like templar

[brazen vector]

Go occy

[ocean field]

nuh uh

[normal hedge]

oh my god it got worse

[brazen vector]

Youll see the light

[ocean field]

??

[normal hedge]

you only click suppress is lucky til day 2/3

after that u're trolling

fixed it

[brazen vector]

Why even cope with low ias gloves

[ocean field]

there is a tatoo for this

hmm

thanks

[normal hedge]

yes

[tranquil sedge]

expensive but yh there is

[normal hedge]

they're very cheap early on

dont sleep on it

[ocean field]

on standard so should be cheap or not guess I should check

[brazen vector]

I hope assassin goes back to being unusable

[crisp obsidian]

Till hour12*

[brazen vector]

You never click it

[ocean field]

nuh uh

https://pobb.in/Ll7OsT7AvkhW

tbh I did use what I learning testing your COC to apply to my other builds

so even if don't play COC it will be very usefull

[soft perch]

do u think ralakesh is even worth thinking about if u have the end charge on block node

[karmic gust]

why would you go assa on non poison build ever

[ocean field]

ts not crit capped nor and is even missing a ring

still good

[karmic gust]

hmm i guess i do now, so maybe not

[ocean field]

why not

[karmic gust]

but also not like theres much to get from boots

[karmic gust]

because thats the only good node on the whole ascendancy

[brazen vector]

Leaves more room for a bloodline ig

[soft perch]

i kinda wanna play a saboteur wander tbh

[ocean field]

nah

[soft perch]

problem is theres only 4 points worth clicking and im not a huge 4 point farrul believer

unless ur left side/armour

[ocean field]

weapon crit is good

[brazen vector]

How about an extra ring slot for a squirming terror?

[soft perch]

what u can do is keep ralakesh and swap out molten shell for immortal call

[whole bluff]

I might be a 4 point lycia believer. But that's elementalist

[soft perch]

should be quite a lot better

[tranquil sedge]

im not commenting on if assassin is good or bad
but its nice to see someone actively want to play under-represented ascendencies 😄

[soft perch]

since u count as having max end charges but u also generate them

and ur using a low level molten shell here anyway

[whole bluff]

Shadow is currently voidhome

[dusty mesa]

gross do deadeye

[ocean field]

btw @normal hedge thank you for all the tips learnt a lot

[karmic gust]

i think molten shell hre is actually a lot better than ic because of ashes

[crisp obsidian]

Bows should use arrows you need to craft for attacking and melee weapons should have to fix their weapons and/or risk breaking them, both instead of mana

[brazen vector]

Deadeye will be dead for sure, tailwind nerfed by 75% in 3.28

[karmic gust]

also levels on molten shell do not rly do anything anyway

[ocean field]

waiting for 3.28

will league start blight of contagion then switch

[soft perch]

o yea actually ur right

[brazen vector]

Ye let's make real craftable ammunition and bring durability stats back

[soft perch]

what do u think about iron reflexes if u have block

also makes molten shell a lot better

[dusty mesa]

I'm revoking your speaking privileges

[tawdry olive]

oh right... now with grafts gone no more free guard skill/aegis lmao

[brazen vector]

You have no power here

[karmic gust]

yea iron relfexes sound good

[brazen vector]

Also no tornado or extra strikes

[tawdry olive]

stat stackers lose like... 10% damage or something from the unstable corrupts

the horror

[ocean field]

all classes other than shadow should be nerfed to the ground

[dusty mesa]

this is gonna make me QotF evasion stack just for movespeed

[brazen vector]

Sounds good, I like qotf

[dusty mesa]

I wish it saw more usage these days

too bad everything is better than it

[brazen vector]

Sad its just a heist statstick

[dusty mesa]

I'd think about using it if it also gave me something more than ms

give me % damage or something

[crisp obsidian]

for real

mana should only be used for spells

that's just logical

[fossil mural]

and spells need to take sedatives or their brain will explode

[crisp obsidian]

nahh

spells are limited by mana

that's ok

[fossil mural]

only for the basic attack

cause

you know

the rest is virtue gems

you dont just swing your mace

you imbue it with power

which costs mana

makes sense

[crisp obsidian]

poe lore doesn't exist

[fossil mural]

everything is better than it even in poe2

inescapable fate

of being dogshit

canon event

[dense rock]

currency moguls gonna run around with arrows costing 10div each and just flexing on scrubs 😄

[fossil mural]

it costs 400000 divines to shot with this bow...

for ten seconds

[tawdry olive]

custom hand crafted and recombed individual ammunition

[fossil mural]

each arrow double corrupted

[crisp obsidian]

that's just more scaling

[dense rock]

1div arrows and brothers out there running with 10attacks/sec while every attack shoots 5+ arrows 😄

[crisp obsidian]

bow players should be happy

[normal hedge]

hapäpy

[crisp obsidian]

å*

[fossil mural]

have to also carry stacks of arrows

[dense rock]

max stack 5

[fossil mural]

cant just fit 10000 arrows into a single quiver

doesnt make sense

[crisp obsidian]

they go into quiver

but depending on your quiver the max increases

or decreases

[dense rock]

1 stack of 5 arrows takes equal space as an entire quiver in your inventory

[fossil mural]

one of the uniques would 100% be

unlimited arrow

storage

[lilac parcel]

the bacon !

[dense rock]

at 50% less dmg

BUT you can pick up your arrows from corpses. They only have like 75% chance of breaking depending on your skill used

[fossil mural]

-50% less damage is 50% more damage 😭

[dense rock]

shit 😄

[crisp obsidian]

melee weapons should get damaged on every hit

[dense rock]

currency cannon

[crisp obsidian]

and you need to use your own grindstone to fix em

[tawdry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry-5-king-cerberus-dmc-cerberus-gif-1709117421294657815

[crisp obsidian]

and even then there is a chance they just break

[fossil mural]

like in new resident evil

you have to sharpen them mid map

[dense rock]

we going back to dark souls 2 levels of bullshit where the amount of dmg your weapon takes from hitting walls/floors depends on your fps and all that shit

[tawdry olive]

light radius scaling based on screen resolution lets go

[elder marlin]

can a projectile chain, fork and split and whats the order?

[crisp obsidian]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Projectile#Projectile_Behaviours

[dense rock]

I think it can, but it will be tickling every single target hit 😄

[neat hull]

yooo

[fossil mural]

infinite damage solaris wand

[tawdry olive]

league start viable

[crisp obsidian]

you should have to build totems and ballistas by hand

and then you can carry them in your inventory

you can pick them up but everytime you pick them up they have a chance to break

[ebon tendon]

are you a secret poe2 dev

[soft perch]

@karmic gust https://pobb.in/202ZnhQI5_T_ i think this is slightly better also has alira

resistances are a little less tight

can keep ralakesh ofc

[crisp obsidian]

you should totally stack flat phys so you can use balance of terror with that selfcast curse!!

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[finite quail]

engineer team fortress two

[tranquil sedge]

what about stacking jiji for dps
does it make you do a jijillion dps

[dusty mesa]

Im low key considering SA ballistas once again

[native abyss]

what’s the lore behind totems

[crisp obsidian]

it would if you didn't use L mode

[tranquil sedge]

that's on you

[crisp obsidian]

oh wtf

[finite quail]

L mode profile

[crisp obsidian]

there we go

[native abyss]

looks good 🔥

[elder marlin]

oh god flash bang

[tranquil sedge]

i would use a custom lighter discord theme if i didnt have to pay for nitro, something with some warm tan/beige tones would be awesome

[normal hedge]

please leave sponge bob alone

[tranquil sedge]

but fuck paying for nitro just for that lmao

so dark it is

[fossil mural]

do you drop the crit node after getting crit paradoxica, or do you go for attack speed?

[gaunt swift]

Phrecia ends in 2 days, yeah?

[soft perch]

attack speed + pen paradoxica

[fossil mural]

farruls

perchance

[soft perch]

overwhelm is also like +100 crit multi

[fossil mural]

for clear which is like meh

[soft perch]

its penance mark

[tranquil sedge]

ye couple days ish

[finite quail]

permanent damage

[gaunt swift]

sad

[fossil mural]

the ghosts dont have a limit?

or like a timer

[soft perch]

u have 9 after 3 seconds

[fossil mural]

oh its 3 per summon

not 3 total

😩

[soft perch]

noob

[fossil mural]

clicking reflexes reduced ehp

😩

[soft perch]

and?

[fossil mural]

is 27k armour really not enough

[crisp obsidian]

maxhit is more important

[fossil mural]

I am not familiar with poe1 phys hits at all

[soft perch]

max hit + armour for molten shell

[finite quail]

not at all

not by itself anyhow

[fossil mural]

is there a way to not click reduced regen pantheon

[finite quail]

wdym

[fossil mural]

you need 100% reduced regen on hit

so cf kills

[dusty mesa]

btw is coiling still the play for SA totems? I didn't know if the nerf to uptime warranted soul ascension again

[fossil mural]

regen dudes

[crisp obsidian]

no, it gives life flask charges

[tranquil sedge]

context matters

for casual mapping? that sounds decent

for tanking big boss hits? ur gonna fold like paper if thats the only layer

[karmic gust]

yea, the nerf is just -1 link

for the temporal chains link

[normal hedge]

foulborn lightning coil kinda good for pathfinder

[dusty mesa]

ah gotcha

[fossil mural]

cause splaff clicks reflexes, and loses 70 evasion for doubling the armour

well almost doubling

[normal hedge]

can use 15% life mastery with it

[terse sleet]

That setup is jank

[soft perch]

ok

[tranquil sedge]

maybe he's fine with relying on 65 attack block and prefers the extra max hit

[karmic gust]

with iron reflexes can also use different light of meaning probably i guess

[tranquil sedge]

its just a personal choice at some point, whatever u think feels better to play is the way to go

[dusty mesa]

ngl didn't expect the tides

[soft perch]

its deathbeams build

just i had some suggestions for him

[dusty mesa]

LOL

[soft perch]

i think tides is a rly good item so

[dusty mesa]

nvm that make sense

oh it is

[soft perch]

i like the setup

[tranquil sedge]

why's the silver flask and granite flask using those prefixes tho

[fossil mural]

chaos res cap

[soft perch]

my main critique was it could fit block pretty easily

[tranquil sedge]

instead of increased effect, when he's got a tides equipped?

[dusty mesa]

that's actually why Im considering SA totems again because I love that belt

[soft perch]

uptime

[tranquil sedge]

but by that logic ur quicksilver is a problem then too

and the other 2 flasks are still not at 100% uptime

[soft perch]

movement speed flask uptime is less important for bosses

u have flask charge on crit

and they still have better uptime with those prefixes than alchemist will give

[fossil mural]

is there anywhere you can get those 20% thats not pantheon

[soft perch]

and alchemist gives a lot less uptime specifically

[dusty mesa]

you could always do the foulborn jewel for like 40% inc charge gained too

[tranquil sedge]

i guess
but tbh if uptime is a concern and ur using iron reflexes and going all tank, surely gain 3 charge on hit is the better prefix for bossing then?

[fossil mural]

recovery mastery

bruh

[finite quail]

recovery mastery

[normal hedge]

yes, frostbomb gaming

[tranquil sedge]

^ frostbomb

[fossil mural]

last rites works

[fossil mural]

the build is like super link tight

[tranquil sedge]

why is the last 20% important

[fossil mural]

well thats how cf works apparently?

[soft perch]

no cuz of tides and flask mastery and chest implicit

[fossil mural]

cant kill through regen

at low levels anyway

[soft perch]

flask charges when hit is better when u dont have those things