1┃general

[modest depot]

its just busted idk

the quality on these gem is not ok

could go full meme

[leaden quiver]

remember you have to generate corpses for them

[gentle finch]

only once

it doesnt consume the corpse

[fossil mural]

Isnt that not an issue in poe

[gentle finch]

u can use the same singular desecrate infinitely

[modest depot]

yeah its for blight so there is corpses but i also have 1 link descrate

[gentle finch]

on gc

[grizzled lily]

vigilant strike with ashes

[modest depot]

i ran this last league for my duo and i could vaal cyclone while general cry kill everything lol

[grizzled lily]

mmmm

[leaden quiver]

sounds good, got pob?

[modest depot]

duo only not solo

[fossil mural]

Yea I saw someone say blade flurry is good and I was like huh and turns out its a trigger on gc

[karmic gust]

well BF does a lot of damage in general

regardless if its on GC

but then you are playing BF

if its not on GC

[leaden quiver]

ahh with links

[modest depot]

sec

[fossil mural]

Yep

Its the opposite of qol

[modest depot]

https://pobb.in/qkLLF98wvVVo it unclicks timeless for some reason

[karmic gust]

yea playing melee stationary channel build isnt super fun :d

[leaden quiver]

vaal blade flurry is fun for some content though

give it a whirl someday

[brazen vector]

@split maple do you think getting a basic adorned setup in phrecia will be possible in phrecia

[leaden quiver]

for delve or blight

[karmic gust]

sounds decent for blight i guess, you wont catch me delving tho :d

[golden moat]

flicker is technically stationary 🤓

[brazen vector]

Flicker IS stationary

[fossil mural]

I saw a reduced duration or something vaal bf build that moved

I think that was it?

[brazen vector]

Vaal boyfriend build

[golden moat]

goratha kinda got me hype with this one, havent played pbod sicne affliction

https://pobb.in/pgGUxNAwiwZ4

id be herald

[leaden quiver]

you mean vbv?

or vbv with cast while channeling

[fossil mural]

Yea 6 minute vaal blade flurry

Peak gaming

Look it up

[golden moat]

would heralds work for clear with this without explode ring or chest? im guessing no?

[leaden quiver]

target build for phrecia

[stray panther]

Bog shaman's "enemies pacified by you take 30% increased damage" node - does this work for the entire duration of Pacify, or only when the "they deal no damage" part of it triggers?

[fossil mural]

I think pacified is the status effect

So only during the no damage thing psure

[stray panther]

ew

sad

[fossil mural]

I mean would be kinda weird to just have a 50% more damage curse

[grizzled lily]

i want ALL the profit this league

[stray panther]

While true that means this node is still hot garbage even with 20% buff

[fossil mural]

All your profit belong to us

[undone gazelle]

is there any way i can get 2 more projectiles to max out prophet KF
https://pobb.in/YF3VKLWC6tzU

[split maple]

for whisperer?

sure just id an adorned

[brazen vector]

For chains of command puppeteer

[vernal shale]

I don't see any changes regarding idols in the patch. What about the breach?

[brazen vector]

Was mentioned in the first post

• settlers
  -breach

[gentle finch]

and memory nodes

16.5s, the boss nodes etc

will be on idols

[vernal shale]

oh yes I see, ty

[brazen vector]

Np

[granite nexus]

Why is event only 3 weeks?

[gentle finch]

cuz the 3.28 league is 14 days later(most likely)

[icy blaze]

Can we have Phrecia til 3.28 drops like 3 weeks ain't enough

I wanna blast some...

[leaden quiver]

no

[sonic jolt]

be patient im affraid

[leaden quiver]

they want to avoid burnout

from new league

[sonic jolt]

yee

burnout sucks

[icy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-white-breaking-bad-ooh-gif-20351248

[sonic jolt]

your so dramatic lol

[icy blaze]

Hahaha

No it's just the last time I enjoyed it so much but I couldn't play the other classes

[sonic jolt]

aaah

[icy blaze]

I went Scavenger power charge stacking build

[sonic jolt]

yeah.. understandable

i would love to play the paladin

[modern zinc]

can't believe there won't be Phrecia Ruthless

I wonder why

[opaque sphinx]

gl me

[icy blaze]

Idol farming?!

[foggy apex]

does anybody know how nearby fell fen Bog Shaman ascendancy node needs enemies to be?
I'm reading that the nearby keyword varies with the skill/item, so I wonder how many units it is on this one

[icy blaze]

I heard from a guy Ruthless with idol farming was something else

[gentle finch]

should be 6 since its an ascendancy

usually is the case

so like 70% of the screen

roughly

[icy blaze]

Scavenger got shanked they knew people were addicted to that 25% spell dmg per power charge on void battery

[grizzled lily]

why are we going to work then

tsk

[icy blaze]

And that 40% phys dmg taken convert to fire was something else

https://tenor.com/view/telmo-coca-harina-raquetaso-esnifar-gif-25660568

[sonic jolt]

i mean if burnout happens, it would take a while before new league starts

more than 4 months

[stable hawk]

scav nerf didn't really make sense imo

all its builds from last phrecia got nerfed since

[brazen vector]

Scavenger was a jack of all trades, so kinda deserved, not as bad as the 33% ac nerf

[stable hawk]

I don't think it was deserved tbh

Don't really care but I think jack of all trades master of none is fine lol

AC nerf was super deserved tho yeah

[sonic jolt]

i saw paladin is buffed

with bigger lvl determination and consecrated ground got more powerful effect

[brazen vector]

determination?

[stoic horizon]

its weird that only discipline got buffed

[brazen vector]

youll take your 42 es AND YOU WILL FUCKING LIKE IT

[sonic jolt]

nah im dumber

but discipline is so based

[grand flint]

what build do yall think is gonna be good in the upcoming event

[hexed mountain]

KF

[hexed mountain]

Impending doom harbi

[split maple]

whisperer any attack you want

[brazen vector]

its 42 extra es, not a huge deal

[grand flint]

this gonna be my first phrecia lol

[sonic jolt]

i mean i can still use this

[clear summit]

Is there a way to post pob via mobile, can’t get to my pc atm and mobile is weird asf

[stable hawk]

whats that?

[split maple]

maybe you can struggle through https://pob.cool

but iirc its janky on mobile

[hexed mountain]

Kinetic fusillade

[opaque sphinx]

loot from 20 uber eater KEK

[stable hawk]

oh

[brazen vector]

looks just as bad as my 20 run

[hexed mountain]

Scion has best position for it, void battery amazing node on it too

[opaque sphinx]

flesh was born in the shadows

-40d pog

time to pob for phrecia

[split maple]

Conner not going mfa or smh?

[gentle finch]

he is

just not right away

even says so in video

[split maple]

Yeah cannot watch rn

Makes sense then

[brazen vector]

nvm its slovenian

[gentle finch]

he wnats to go mfa for valdo maps

[dark grove]

I think im gonna farm for fishing rod to earn easy money day 1

[gentle finch]

otherwise he said kboc is just better

for everything else

[split maple]

That country doesn't exist

[brazen vector]

[split maple]

thats obviously a chicken

[brazen vector]

oooh I see

my bad

[golden moat]

anyone league starting whisperer in this gauntlet-esk event is gonna have a bad time

[split maple]

protip: its not polish if it doesnt have milion ^~˘ above letters

[brazen vector]

it does have the funky C

[golden moat]

id start oshabi if i was doing the MFA shit

[hexed mountain]

Idk man charges node is big and fork too. Pretty solid powerspikes

[split maple]

wildspeaker start looks comfy too

swaping to whisperer before indigon feels gigabait to me

[brazen vector]

behemoth MFA

[stoic horizon]

you are mistaking languages sir

[hexed mountain]

All 3 ranger ascendancies have good lab 1

[stoic horizon]

we dont have any ~ above letters

[winter crater]

Poland mentioned
Polska gurom

[brazen vector]

[hexed mountain]

Btw what do you guys think is the top 3 lab 1 in phrecia? Arakaali envy, whisperer wolves and? Surf ghost?

Or harold

[golden moat]

Aristocrat end game is giga bro, i might have to lock paladin for a while xD

[split maple]

okay not tildes, but all of them lil sharpies and roofies

[brazen vector]

puppeteer will be smooth sailing leveling with either srs or absolution and the chaos damage node + infernal legion

[hexed mountain]

Technically scavenger shavronne node with ghostwrithe is a crazy lab 1 too

[winter crater]

Never played phercia since I'm relatively new so I won't answer that question for i don't have it, but I wanted to contribute to the chat hence this text

[hexed mountain]

[stoic horizon]

ż ź ś ć ó ł ę ą ń thats all the special letters we have

[brazen vector]

öäü

ours

[hexed mountain]

Ç

[brazen vector]

oh and never forget the forgotten

ß

[stoic horizon]

i'd say german but i dont se sharfes s

ah nvm

[brazen vector]

xD

[winter crater]

I blame this one guy that wanted to build a tower high enough to touch the heavens 🥀

[stoic horizon]

[pulsar dune]

Is level 40 discipline lab 1?

[hexed mountain]

No

[pulsar dune]

Rip

[hexed mountain]

I mean you could

[whole bluff]

Still nice for lab2

[hexed mountain]

But a defensive lab 1 makes little sense

[stoic horizon]

yes

[hexed mountain]

And you want relics for lab 2

Which is a 4 pointer

[brazen vector]

modern civilisation doesnt help there either with all the heaven piercing rockets and planes

[signal herald]

How to get olmecs sanctum map help please

[hexed mountain]

Ask kirac politely

[split maple]

drop it? or ask kirac

its one of commonest unique maps

[steady elk]

is POE1 cpu intensive or gpu intensive?

[split maple]

so heck even einhar create unique map

[winter crater]

I can't continue the skit without touching religion more that one should :(

[stoic horizon]

no prerequisites

[whole bluff]

Surely the satellites aren't gonna collide in a chain reaction until earth becomes saturnus little brother

[hexed mountain]

Yeah but lab 1 disc gives you no damage

[signal herald]

It drops from where?

[split maple]

the only proper lab 1 for ranger is wolves

[stoic horizon]

unless you are a masochist and eblade asap

[split maple]

anywhere

[signal herald]

Oh ty

[hexed mountain]

Remember to grab crit for wolves though

[winter crater]

With no Atlas tree you still get tier16 with the bosses as in normal league in phercia?

[split maple]

voidstones are still a thing

[pulsar dune]

Oh wow disc is just 360 flat ES

[winter crater]

Got you

[hexed mountain]

Can be increased by aura effecr

[steady elk]

anyone know?

[stoic horizon]

ye just 100ish above lvl 20

[winter crater]

Shit I think both

[hexed mountain]

Also why arakaali doesnt get level 35 aspect. He got mogged by wildspeaker

Shamefull level 30

[stoic horizon]

because crab is still mad he has no ascendacy

[hexed mountain]

Crab is lucky he didnt get deleted from the game with how bad he is

[stoic horizon]

[split maple]

crab fight is one of most annoying ones ingame rly

[hexed mountain]

Crab should stay in its lane

[split maple]

kinda good no one wants crab stuff

[hexed mountain]

Lowkey aspect of the spider with 20 reduced should be decent

[modest depot]

alright real shit how do i make this build not suck. solo ps mines https://pobb.in/_s8_XOdBHPlr

i just want to farm some t16 maps

damage just feels so low

[past rain]

zdps

[brazen vector]

one can only hope that happens

[modest depot]

its 2m with full prestack and everything

not really conditions ill be in often

[hexed mountain]

Fenumus shroud arakaali is 30% reduced damage dealt to ennemies

[split maple]

you need to set count for power siphon

since locus mines multihit

[hexed mountain]

Quite substantial

[modest depot]

also im mildly concerned about defenses

gonna just be insta dead every map

[gentle finch]

163k x 3 x throwing time is literally the dps

its correct

his sustained dps would be 2m based on that pobbin

[whole bluff]

Iirc, a control outage for 3 days would make it almost inevitable atm. And it's getting worse. And this is assuming no state or terrorist actor decides to cause it intentionally

[brazen vector]

well, we will see :3

[split pagoda]

ps mines haven't felt great to me since the nerf, if it's just for basic t16s it should be playable tho

[brazen vector]

Since I was marked as a being a part of a terrorist organisation already, we dont know what will happen lmao

[modest depot]

yeah i need to be able to farm altars in scoured or transmuted red maps

without my aurabot

[gentle finch]

ps mine with all the antiquarian ward stuff will still own

but u need it all

[golden moat]

rip phrecia gravussy farming 🙁

[split maple]

idk if pob is using that there, since changing active mines count doesnt impact it much?

[gentle finch]

active mines doesnt do anything but auras

which he has no auras

cuz locus doesnt do that

[whole bluff]

Damn, you sound more busy than I am then

[modest depot]

yeah the only aura is mine mastery

[split maple]

you should be getting 3 hits no?

[split pagoda]

makes sense lol

[gentle finch]

its alrdy counting 3 hits

[split maple]

where in calcs?

like i believe you just i cannot find it

[gentle finch]

avg hit of 163k, throws 3 mines, at .27 throw speed

it has all the info rright there

[modest depot]

but hes saying the actual gem hits multiple time

not throwing 3 mines?

[split maple]

oh thats new

[pulsar dune]

PS mine nerfs were kinda rough, no?

[split maple]

wasnt in pob last time i did ps mines

[pulsar dune]

Ye, it is new

[modest depot]

oh nah thats what he meant

[modest depot]

there is just nothing elsee viable

spells suck

[pulsar dune]

Probably trust bubbles and play PS selfcast lel

[modest depot]

hmm

[karmic gust]

spark fury valve

[modest depot]

cuz this is damage with a basic aurabot

but hes gonna be farming heist for literally as long as possible

[stoic horizon]

eyy im literally considering that for my build

[modest depot]

aka i have to prog red map and ideally my own shaper/elder guardians

[karmic gust]

its pretty good imo, fury valve makes spark not dogshit skill :d

[stoic horizon]

cuz i kinda have a dead 4th lab so im thinking about utilizing the valve

[modest depot]

someone tried to bait me into jiquani spark

tbh my cope is that cold power siphon = mobs frozen and i have a good time

[karmic gust]

int stack spark sounds rough cant get any good stats for it

jiquani is pretty op tho imo

[modest depot]

damage was insane but then i check proj speed and it said like 2.x somethin

[karmic gust]

just not with spark yea

[hexed mountain]

Also non-trigger jiquani = 0 cast speed weapon

[split maple]

2mil dps can do guardians no issue tho

eh wrong reply

like you wont be having amazing time but its doable

[modest depot]

alright ill fully trust

should get a little more damage with implicits too

[split maple]

just alch them lightly

[split pagoda]

random mods + enraged guardians pepela

[modest depot]

oh ill run them scoured idc just have no faith on this skill because i've never played

so i dont know what the damage in pob looks like ingame

[split maple]

try res pen on wand

[hexed mountain]

They removed so many mods from the pool that we are definitely getting double damage mod every other map with the 2 random mods

[brazen vector]

I simply just exist and a certain conglomerate of states in the northern hemisphere in the west just likes to label "unusual" people as terrorist

[karmic gust]

damn we have terrorist here rip

[hexed mountain]

Get him

[split maple]

storming eshgraft works on mines right?

[opal ingot]

wait huh.. thought it was just the additional random mods on top of the map that dont have the bricking stuff

let me reread the patch notes agin

im a poe player

[gentle finch]

they only removed like what 8 mods out of the 59 mod pool choices maps can roll. So depends how many mods higher tiers roll

[severe heath]

cpu mainly

[opal ingot]

idk seems to me you can still manually roll some bricking mods

[brazen vector]

[opal ingot]

like just the random additional mods not having brickmods

[gentle finch]

ya its only the random ones

literally no one thought it effected naturally rolled maps

[somber sundial]

Introduce a new unique that rewards me for using all the aspect skills, call it, Aspect of the Wildforce: gives me action speed, flat crit chance, +5 fortification and 10% inc global damage

[gentle finch]

(i hope cuz i question them irl)

[stoic horizon]

correct

[somber sundial]

They made a herald stacker ring, surely aspects are not out of the question

[opal ingot]

this one. but i think i misread this statement..

yep i did LMAO

im a true blue poe player

[gentle finch]

happens to the best of ppl

reading is hard sometimes

[steady elk]

good to know ty

[normal hedge]

arpg players can't read

[somber sundial]

This is factually correct

[normal hedge]

Grok explain it to me

[somber sundial]

Ggg just give me tornado shot transfigured gem that brings the skill back to life

[stoic horizon]

if i could read this i'd be mad

[split maple]

ggg please dont add more green trans gems

there is way too many of them

[somber sundial]

Ggg try not to nerf poe1 challenge

[lucid sandal]

How soon you think guides for phrecia will start appearing?

[normal hedge]

tornado shot of the old animation

It does nothing different but has the old animation

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[somber sundial]

Tornado Shot of the SoulEating Spectrum (+1 Bitcoin per attack)

[normal hedge]

[split maple]

i may have pobed 3 trans green gems

i am so fucked

[somber sundial]

I still have to make a pob

Shoot me

[brazen vector]

there are more colours than green, just pick one and Ill tell you what to play ;3

[somber sundial]

I don’t know what I’m doing with this shot

[split maple]

red

[brazen vector]

VIgilant strike!

[split maple]

No.

[brazen vector]

Exsanguinate of transmission?

[split maple]

are you sorting poe.ninja by least popular

[brazen vector]

I am sorting by what I like :(

Anime Guardian!

thats all the red gems I like that arent supports/auras

[potent bramble]

I would laugh so hard at an April Fools update that just replaces the texture of all animate guardians with Goku lmao

[brazen vector]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-20130371

[somber sundial]

Sisyphus Prime

Frenzy of Shotgunning, is just the shotgun from Boxhead

[tough cove]

32 more hours....pls go faster

[signal hawk]

"The passive the community believes is called" line is so funny

[forest surge]

Venom gyre blind prophet should work smooth ?

[fossil mural]

Playing builds you can normally play

In phrecia

Should be considered a cardinal sin

[split maple]

whats your starter salty

[split pagoda]

Hey I may have done 3 runs to uber shaper on bleed boneshatter in the past 2 weeks but none of them were on ancestral commander

[tranquil sedge]

these tryhards practicing runs smh

yolo it all on leaguestart with no plan 1h before start

https://tenor.com/view/thats-how-you-do-it-simon-cowell-britains-got-talent-thats-how-it-is-done-thats-the-best-way-to-do-it-gif-25611442

[normal hedge]

are you going to kboc again?

[hoary scarab]

imagine wander

[fossil mural]

Ive no idea, but I want to try cold snap rf thing

[tranquil sedge]

are you playing phrecia

[split pagoda]

Cold snap architect is pretty good

[gentle finch]

32 for what?

[normal hedge]

yes i wanna play kb blind prophet but i cant use marylenes now

[hoary scarab]

dreamcore made a whole vid about how good it is on architect, but its honestly just way better on bog witch

[normal hedge]

🥀

[tranquil sedge]

too little base crit?

[normal hedge]

ya

[tranquil sedge]

can you somehow pob a sublime precision version of it

to make up for that

or is losing other auras a no-go

[fossil mural]

How the hell do you play it on bog

[wild sedge]

when was the new league tingi

[fossil mural]

Its already over

You slept through it

[gentle finch]

like 55 hours from now @wild sedge

[wild sedge]

aaaa i seee

[whole bluff]

You mean arrive at the computer with no plan and get the patch updates then start queueing at 5min past start

[hoary scarab]

just chaos ascendency is good enough, with soul gain per sec

[scarlet jacinth]

Phrecia that was 10 leagues ago! You've been asleep for too long gta 6 is out

[brazen vector]

gta 7 was postponed to 2038

[scarlet jacinth]

ChatGPT is president

[whole bluff]

Part of the procedure is not supposed to include "try the new ascendancy only to realise that you don't like the new ascendancy, nor any other ascendancy on that class, fail feared and reroll elementalist", but I did that anyway

[modern zinc]

are totem builds good for endgame content?

like feared

[whole bluff]

Ah, no wait I never got to feared, cuz I couldn't finish cortex

[silent leaf]

@brazen vector

[scarlet jacinth]

Ow yea, good point. I have no clue what I'll be playing for phrecia.. manaforged again? The dex stacking one maybe. Indigon will hit the ceiling haha

[brazen vector]

manafroged behemoth

[scarlet jacinth]

I did manaforged last phrecia.. very scuffed.

[normal hedge]

[brazen vector]

[steel light]

are there any comfy ranger or templer build for phrecia? those are the 2 classes i've never created yet

[normal hedge]

FS wildspeaker login

[scarlet jacinth]

Wildspeaker flicker strike!!

[split maple]

mfa (dont do it before indigon) and kboc (dont do it before mid maps) whisperer, flicker strike wildspekaer, la/ehots wildspeaker/oshabi

like you can rly do close to anyhting on phrecia rangers and it will be decent enough

[tranquil sedge]

yea ranger is gonna be one of the more played classes, lol

[scarlet jacinth]

I'll probably do something random that's comfy and then farm indigon for mfa. Depending on indigon prices

[split maple]

whisperer + any attack is gonna be strong af

[whole bluff]

Hmm. A behemoth with 2k str, gets 4k mana, and turns 3200 into 6400 armour, while keeping 800 mana?

[tranquil sedge]

indigon prices will balance with uber frag prices so doesnt matter that much if u farm or self-buy
as long as its in a remotely acceptable price range just buy one directly in trade tbh, just make sure to min roll the increased mana cost

[unkempt urchin]

thinking of trying impending doom on harbi this league

[silent leaf]

How about personal attack

[tranquil sedge]

u have -300% resistance to that

[unkempt urchin]

harbi got kinda nerfed tho right?

[split maple]

idk how much it rly matters on the roll

[tranquil sedge]

matters 😄

[split maple]

you get faster ramp but less ergonomics higher it is

[unkempt urchin]

now you have to take the harbinger summon node to get the cdr node

[scarlet jacinth]

With so much ranger stuff its minion leaguestart time again i think

[tranquil sedge]

the amount of mana you need to spend to max indigon is nothing lol

[whole bluff]

Personal attack of explosions

[brazen vector]

unarmed auto attack

[tranquil sedge]

with a max roll indigon its just 16k mana recently spent

[steady elk]

would it be dumb to focus on ultimatums as a new player?

[scarlet jacinth]

Eh its pretty consistent

[split maple]

its 20k-16k

[scarlet jacinth]

Look at emiracle cws

[steady elk]

well, "new"

[tranquil sedge]

who makes math mistakes not me thats for sure

[elder marlin]

u need specific build for that content

thats all

[tranquil sedge]

okay in my head i had the number at 8-10k LOL

[steady elk]

oh 😬

[haughty dirge]

Whats "unencumbered" ?

not wearing gloves?

[elder marlin]

unarmed

[steady elk]

im running boneshatter trauma jugg so idt that works for it

[elder marlin]

ye

[tranquil sedge]

but i think it still doesn't matter

[golden moat]

emircale is doing bog shaman cws, a single item for that build is gonna cost ur life savings

[tranquil sedge]

ur ramp is gonna be quick af

[elder marlin]

whats ur ehp

[split maple]

no gloves, no weapon, no offhand

[haughty dirge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/B3ndiX-4270/Palm_Phrecia?i=1&search=skills%3DCyclone%26sort%3Ddps

but these guys are using the dervish

[pulsar ice]

lmao, got a 5link drop in the first area of act 6 on a practice run

[scarlet jacinth]

Haven't yet looked at it. Usually emiracle doesn't make it too horrible at start

[haughty dirge]

the manifested dervish disables both weapon slots huh

[tranquil sedge]

prob this

[golden moat]

ive been watching his stream for last few hours, its not looking great for affordability haha

[elder marlin]

kinda bad tbh

[pulsar ice]

my build doesn't care about links anyway, so it goes to the vendor

[scarlet jacinth]

Yea.. well can't be as bad as MFA

[whole bluff]

Actually, ez math behemoth:
500 str -> 1k flat mana -> 1600 armour + 200 mana

Assuming you get 100% inc mana 3.2k armour and 400 mana

[tranquil sedge]

does that use a lot of uniques or something

[lethal zenith]

Ancestral Commandbros, are we cooked?

[soft perch]

i have no idea what to play

[tranquil sedge]

u got nerfed but ur fine

[soft perch]

nothing fun seems strong

[tranquil sedge]

still playable

[elder marlin]

yes...kinda

[steady elk]

like 37k

[haughty dirge]

looks like a very fun build

[tranquil sedge]

if u dont end up deciding before leaguestart, generic ranger or kboc, into MFA

[haughty dirge]

spin to win punch everything

[normal hedge]

early on it uses the regular rf uniques

[haughty dirge]

the aristocrat way

[soft perch]

mfa without gear sounds miserable

[elder marlin]

ye u r not getting through an ultimatum

[steady elk]

alas

[normal hedge]

rise of the phoenix and the regen belt i forgot the name

[tranquil sedge]

is why u dont leaguestart it

[hoary scarab]

triple attribute stacking polytheist

[tranquil sedge]

leaguestart a generic ranger into optionally kboc, up till at least indigon

then swap

[soft perch]

bait

[hoary scarab]

trustge

big deeps

[soft perch]

u mean aristocrat right

[hoary scarab]

uhh idk

the duelist one

[golden moat]

-40 res makes it really want sublime PoF, foulborn rathpith is gonna be like 100-200d, p sure osin is wanted, mageblood

[tranquil sedge]

and u can't say that without the opposite statement too
at the high end, its really strong 😄

if u a grinder you can prob get it pretty far in 3 weeks

[elder marlin]

https://pobb.in/o10B7KIWbct2 this sometimes struggle to survive in 4 dmg mod ulti or reduce recovery

[soft perch]

i have the most fun in poe1 tinkering with builds in the 10-20 div range

[hoary scarab]

very original idea, Scourge arrow of menacing traps blind guy

[tranquil sedge]

mfa is ruled out gotcha

[soft perch]

im thinking about evasion stack fusillade oshabi with slinger warp

[pulsar dune]

Hmm, bow trapper huh

[split maple]

yea idk how important roll is, differecne for me betwen min and max roll at full ramp is 9800 per storm rain vs 11800 per storm rain, but maxed one is 20% more dps

prolly you rly want one that is under halfpoitn of roll range, but having it exactly minimum isnt all that big

[steady elk]

well maybe next league

[golden moat]

also pohx is doing his RF on bog shaman and it wants foulborn rathpith, so idk if that item is even gonna be attainable with not many ppl super farming breach

[steady elk]

i need to finish atlas this leage and figure out my build

[tranquil sedge]

maxed one is 20% more dps
thats because of mfa 1% more dps per 1 mana cost
you'd benefit from that anyway if u just attacked an extra shot or two, i presume

[steady elk]

still liek 50/115

[split pagoda]

I like buffed oshabi quite abit

[split maple]

yeah in the end there dps dont matter only the ramp time, since you anyways get more dps with more ramp ig

[hoary scarab]

poison oshabi build login

[tranquil sedge]

im thinking more about the gameplay feel

like lets be honest ur gonna have enough dps to do whatever you want

[hoary scarab]

112% to apply an additional poison

[split maple]

yeah maxed one would feel ass that i agree 😄

[tranquil sedge]

yea

its all about min-maxing gameplay feel & qol

[split maple]

but there isnt THAT big spend difference in 50-55 (out of 50-60) roll range

[tranquil sedge]

thats when it feels most fun to play

[tranquil sedge]

sure u can settle on 51 or 52 or whatever

but like
dont buy 60 just coz its a div or two cheaper

[split pagoda]

Eva stack + aul + poison node is probably gonna look insane in pob

[tranquil sedge]

(for trade players)

[golden moat]

going paladin into attribute stack aristocrat perhaps

[split pagoda]

Just need to figure out how to make clear not ass lmao

[split maple]

(ssf players will divine it themselves anyways)

[tranquil sedge]

i had a 55 when i started coz i didnt know which was better

i ended up divining a lower roll later on lol

[scarlet jacinth]

How very annoying will the market be for indigon tho..

[soft perch]

honestly id rather just not click poison and just go wands

[brazen vector]

very

[tranquil sedge]

honestly not as bad as ppl making it out to be i think

[brazen vector]

was like 40 div in phrecia1

[coral summit]

question for sparkers, how much pierce do you want on it

for it to feel good

[scarlet jacinth]

40d isn't much

[elder marlin]

how much block would be needed to semi consistently complete ruin and stalking ruin ulti?

[tranquil sedge]

30-40d in first few week of 3.25 phrecia yea

ass rolls were cheaper, ofc

[coral summit]

is 2 pierce passable or nah

[tranquil sedge]

and also you'd just be using a 3-5d mind of the council before indigon

its not like its a straight 40d jump to indigon

[scarlet jacinth]

... bad in my eyes is like 80div

Definitely not leaguestart a build that wants indigon, I'll do something else and reroll

[golden moat]

with AC nerfed into the ground, i expect more ppl joining the MFA bandwagon

[tranquil sedge]

all things equal it might be higher in price this time i think

[golden moat]

so indigon price prob increase from 3.25

[tranquil sedge]

but still nothing an extra day of farming can't fix

[normal hedge]

i hope everyone joins mfa cult and quits when they realize they arent sweaty enough to make it work

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[split pagoda]

Yeah I'd try to skip the poison node aswell lol

[coral summit]

i'm doing bog shaman spark

[tranquil sedge]

are you in the cult too rilay

[normal hedge]

oh no

[whole bluff]

Did they actually smash AC to pieces? Still looks usable, just not for the jung build

[coral summit]

i think i've pieced together a playable build but i'm not sure if it needs tainted pact or not.

[scarlet jacinth]

All fun and games till people realise how specific some items are.. very fun

[golden moat]

Carn was about to cry over it so yea ig so

[split pagoda]

Needing 5 vines to get the all dmg can poison doesn't sound like it'd feel great

[tranquil sedge]

warcry node change was a big nerf for them ye
and the swapping of that strike node position

[coral summit]

https://pobb.in/qM9U2d88Ufxa

[tranquil sedge]

the +3 -> +2 max endu was prob the smaller nerf

[scarlet jacinth]

Dunno what to play for now, flicker.. maybe srs or animate weapon

[normal hedge]

animate weapon is sick

[split pagoda]

AC is still just a better jugg in terms of leaguestarters

[desert stream]

are 2 grasp falling zombies a bait?

[coral summit]

i think this setup should be able to coast on instant leech but if it doesn't then it has to sack the amulet slot for tainted pact

[tranquil sedge]

i was just about to ask that lol

[scarlet jacinth]

Yea but without necro no bone offering for easy early block cap

[desert stream]

I want just to reach 90 lvl, but not sure whether I need to go meme way or stable non dying ancestor totem build

[brazen vector]

just go meme

[coral summit]

toad pact hurts so much for resists since it costs basically an entire extra item but for spark damage it's just too big

75% proj speed and skill duration.

[split pagoda]

it's not like theres competition for slams starter ascendancy. And slams are stupid strong even unascended so like

[elder marlin]

how do i simulate "Damage of Enemies Hitting you is Unlucky" in pob?

[split pagoda]

AC still gonna be one of the best ascendancies

[desert stream]

the question is whether build is actually viable with those falling zombies, no real theorycraft yet arranged for a guy like me

[tranquil sedge]

by pob number ur instant leech is less than life cost/sec 😮
and its also assuming all ur sparks keep hitting right

[normal hedge]

yeah but its doable

[tranquil sedge]

unga bunga will still work yea

[normal hedge]

helmbreaker already updated his pob

[brazen vector]

i played it, its easy

[desert stream]

20k life per second cost, kekw

[soft perch]

the thing that pisses me off about AC now is that ur forced to click ancestral echo

[desert stream]

which way for zombies? manual or automatic?

[coral summit]

then yeah it's gotta fit some poison chance and tainted pact in there

[scarlet jacinth]

Really? For phrecia event league, i didn't see it.

[desert stream]

and which build to check if any

[split pagoda]

That was nonsensical I agree

[brazen vector]

cyclone coc or cwc

[thick python]

hey all, new to phrecia this time around. will indigon be completely out of reach? i've been looking at some basic guides on KBoC whisperer (nothing too min/maxed or pushed to the limit or so it seems from initial glance)

[hoary scarab]

played falling zombies arakaali last phrecia and was honestly the most fun build i have played yet

[split pagoda]

Strike node was the most fun/cool node on AC lol

And they basically killed it

[soft perch]

kinda wanted to play ele hit but now i completely cba lmao

[scarlet jacinth]

You saw the connor video huh

[thick python]

path of evening

[scarlet jacinth]

Ah

[desert stream]

I wanted puppetter for full meme side, but maybe a wrong choice to do that and just go envy way 🙂

[scarlet jacinth]

50/50 odds

[coral summit]

i'm not sure the instant leech calculator is correct though

it's basically .5% of life per hit with 5% of leech is instant, rite

from 10% base>5%?

[hoary scarab]

arakaali is mainly great for the crit and the ability to get triggerbots from FF

[tranquil sedge]

indigon will be expensive but you don't have to directly go from rare helmet to indigon, mind of the council is a solid mid-game option and its a heck of a lot cheaper (few divs vs. few tens of divs)

are u able to grind currency? 😄

[desert stream]

I only go till 90 lvl, I definitely won't reach level to even need ff

[hoary scarab]

https://youtu.be/ohTcfGZB1QI?si=5iCXJEroFE1i7eiT
I just based the build on this but incorporated poisons

[thick python]

sounds good, yeah ill be able to put in the time. just didn't want to be baited into some multimirror stuff since i'm newish to poe1 (started in mercs)

[scarlet jacinth]

Looper saboteur flashbacks

[coral summit]

you have 4s worth of sparks out on bosses, which is about ~40 sparks hitting per second

that's what

ok yeah not enough LOL

[tranquil sedge]

they're not all guaranteed to hit tho

ur assuming best case scenario

don't xd

[scarlet jacinth]

I think its time to cook up an mana flicker build somehow..

[coral summit]

so yeah it's gotta get tainted pact

unluckyyyyy

[tranquil sedge]

palsteron played kboc in 3.25 phrecia

try to see if he or anyone made some good progression guides for that

it'll give you an idea of the kinda gear grind to expect

[elder marlin]

is this enough to do ruin ulti semi consistently?

[golden moat]

this is also gonna be a gauntlet-esk event. id play a starter that reliably tanky

[normal hedge]

if you find a 3.25 guide from allie make sure to not follow it

[tranquil sedge]

lol what'd she do

[coral summit]

hmm

so where the hell do you get poison chance if you can't get it on gloves lmao

[normal hedge]

its straight worse than pals

[scarlet jacinth]

Hey @normal hedge where is the updated helm breaker one?

[coral summit]

without having to path for it

[normal hedge]

1s floris

i saved it but i gotta find

[stoic horizon]

30 overlaps

[scarlet jacinth]

Thanks

[tranquil sedge]

o rip
palsteron is comfy 😄

[golden moat]

5% chance of getting cooked, whats ur max hits

[tranquil sedge]

ngl i dunno if thats unrealistic or not with kboc

i have absolutely zero idea how to do kboc dps math

[normal hedge]

https://pobb.in/pN2AaLvRcYBt

[elder marlin]

very low, 7k phys, 20k ele/chaos

[stoic horizon]

its unrealistic, i think she changed it after her argument with rue

[golden moat]

is this gambler?

[elder marlin]

yea

[pulsar dune]

against a wall, 30 is probably attainable if you get the truly perfect setup

but normally kboc is like 1 or 2 times tornado

[desert stream]

did you go with aspect skill or spiders?

[elder marlin]

sval is too expensive

early league

[whole bluff]

Ok, with the strike node swap and charge removal as a zone mod killing flicker it is dead to me as well

[desert stream]

well, unless idols give a big boost for craters spawning it may be even more expensive

[slim island]

how good is 1/2 nimis

[tranquil sedge]

does frost wall work for that or nah

[soft perch]

about half a nimis

[hoary scarab]

2 points in aspect of spider and its upgrade for survivability and 2 points into minion poison and minion base crit for dmg

[pulsar dune]

nah

[tranquil sedge]

o7

[pulsar dune]

usually not good enough to click

[soft perch]

?

wat

[pulsar dune]

some skills do abuse it well

[desert stream]

so no envy?

[slim island]

i'll never afford one so maybe i could try blind prophet

[scarlet jacinth]

I'll never hit the fun covenant for animate weapon ever again.. pohx league had the bloodmagic tree one with +2 to minion / +2 to duration corrupt.. I'll miss it

[golden moat]

ur gonna be able to do ultis that others cant yea, whether thats consistent idk. damage is probably p bad without good invest so u have to put a lot of faith in that 5%. good news is that more than skill * FF is prob gonna be decently cheap cuz not many will be playing duelist

[hoary scarab]

nah, envy didnt turn out to be needed or usefull ngl

[slim island]

which might stack with sabo jewel

[coral summit]

is the wand mod with poison on hit local to the weapon

[soft perch]

arakaali is probably best campaign ascendancy

closely followed by wildspeaker

[normal hedge]

its really good overall, and you can use another support gem in your main link

instead of return proj

[hoary scarab]

envy do be great for campaigning ye

[elder marlin]

true

[desert stream]

was it high enough dps for regular maps? I am not sure reaching t16 will be even needed for 90 lvl

[hoary scarab]

i did juiced titanic blights with it on a pretty low budget, so yeah it was enough

[slim island]

what skill should i use with it

[elder marlin]

i was gonna say masterful form is not block glad

[hexed mountain]

damn , starkonja's head giving 150% eva on low life gives me 40K evasion on pob that's nearly 300% attack damage on oshabi

250% if you remove the 50% damage from starkonja

[desert stream]

and is it nice clear speed or nah? Definitely I shouldn't expect something like clear screen (we are not chain dd here), but overall how good is it in clear?

[golden moat]

if u do end up getting more than skill, i think aristocrat is the play

[slim island]

i guess either KB or magma balls?

[normal hedge]

some ideas: KB, Elemental Hit of the Spectrum, Lightning Arrow, Scourge Arrow of the Menace, Lightning Strike

[hoary scarab]

clear is pretty good cause its an automated brand recall build with on kill explosions from montregul

[hexed mountain]

would need skill in gloves though to have no skill in armour

[coral summit]

oh chance to poison is a roll on spark gloves

okay fuck yeah that works

[dapper kite]

will PoB be updates for new phrecia?

updated*

[stoic horizon]

eventually

[dapper kite]

oh so it's not out yet

[hoary scarab]

pob died for our sins

no more pob

[modern zinc]

I'm having a lot of fun playing storm burst totems tbh

[dapper kite]

shame

time to raw dog it

[elder marlin]

paly would be better

[slim island]

how do i turn on phrecia in pob

[stoic horizon]

3.26 (alternate)

[golden moat]

nah

early yea

[desert stream]

ok, thanks, then we are going meme build again (last time it was surfcaster with crackling lance)

[elder marlin]

+breachlord bloodline

[golden moat]

scaling on aristocrat is very nice, this only gets u so far

[fossil mural]

Isnt architect the only reason you can have 100% uptime on vaal snap? And get an okay duration on it so you dont have to click as often. Or does soul gain per second ignore prevention?

[elder marlin]

yea u r right

[hoary scarab]

doesnt ignore soul gain prevention, but you use sheperd of souls from chaos bloodline to basically have 5 stacks of vaal cold snap right at the start of a map, you only use like 5 souls or something, and with 8sec duration you have basically no downside. Cpt lance did a vaal cold snap build in keepers if you want to check it out.

[haughty ermine]

@soft apex 🐴

[hoary scarab]

honse

[hard cliff]

hello chat

👋🏻

[hoary scarab]

ew wtf is that

[golden moat]

lance going aristocrat too hype to see what he cooks. think im prob gonna go int stack eblade late with it

[hoary scarab]

im prolly just gonna try vaal flameblast spam

[elder marlin]

im going cws firestorm lucky block aris or atleast thats what i wanted to go for

[proud gorge]

man, I find it funny how that build guide says "It's a pretty cheap build, I was able to complete my atlas and get all voidstones on a few divs worth of gear". Like, I just feel like a real "cheap" build should really be able to clear T16s just fine on like 20c.

though I guess "all voidstones" is a bit of a step up from "clears T16s"

[haughty ermine]

yeah

a div or two for all is good

[proud gorge]

just feels silly to mention the two in the same breath

[haughty ermine]

20c for the first two sounds good

yep

[hexed mountain]

to be fair just on the way to unlocking voidstone 3 and 4 you should have 2-5 divs

[golden moat]

👍

[proud gorge]

oh hey Doctor Horse, that reminds me, you made that Ehit guide right? Why does it have level 1 Immortal Call in it

[hexed mountain]

without specifically farming for gear

[haughty ermine]

which

[proud gorge]

the one on mobalytics

[haughty ermine]

probably mana concerns

[proud gorge]

it's lifetapped

[haughty ermine]

that's the slayer one?

[proud gorge]

yeah

[haughty ermine]

I think I was idiotproofing it

I've seen some dumb shit

[forest surge]

any recommendations on a HH build for phrecia ?

[proud gorge]

actually, now that I think about it, it's probably at least partially because that build has minimal out of conbat regen but has Automated Immortal Call Lifetap

[coral summit]

ok, i think I made this playable but it could probably? use a bit more poison chance https://pobb.in/Y7EuT3EjgFvb

[proud gorge]

so if you just ran max level IC Automation constantly it'd probably drain your life

[coral summit]

40% seems like it should be playable but ideally it'd probably hit something like 50-60%

[haughty ermine]

takes a long while

[uneven gust]

47% shock?

[haughty ermine]

but it's possible

[coral summit]

ye

[haughty ermine]

bloodrage is more of a concern there

[desert stream]

define when for 20c, on day 1-3 20c is just a 6l (corrupted) and a bit of a very weak gear. Some skills are fine with this budget, but it is a very limited amount.

[proud gorge]

yeah

[coral summit]

well, 44 shock

it should be 44.

[haughty ermine]

also part of why I run a bloodrage paradoxica for a bit

[haughty ermine]

i hate dying to nothing

or the ground

etc

[proud gorge]

I mean, I usually play like a week in, so 20c is a few generic rares to cover resists (including benchcrafts to fix res), and maybe a couple of extremely cheap generic uniques

[uneven gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510632855601152013/1304500020644417546/Horse.gif

[soft perch]

@hexed mountain what is your opinion on oshabi wisp node for fusillade

[hexed mountain]

its good

[desert stream]

that is the point, if this could go you through t16 (unjuiced of course) it would be op if it would be for every skill

[uneven gust]

i hate dying because my zombies are also corpses

[soft perch]

i think oshabi fusillade evasion stack seems insane

[hexed mountain]

solid damage for 2 pointer

[proud gorge]

which is usually enough for a lot of builds to at least hit T16s and quest exarch/eater

[soft perch]

can do this

empty helm + empty chest

not particularly hard to gear

[golden moat]

ur gonna die to a dust partical

[hexed mountain]

if you go oshabi and dont put your gems in helm you should run starkonja

[proud gorge]

what do you mean, most skills can do that, T16s aren't that hard

[soft perch]

no ur not

[hexed mountain]

150% increased global evasion from starkonja far offsets the 50% reduced damage

[proud gorge]

it's when you want to go beyond T16s, or start heavily juicing them, that you need more investment

but "atlas completion" just means beating a corrupted rare T16 once per map

that's pretty easy

[desert stream]

white one? because most of the skills require bigger budget than 20c to hold t16 nicely

[soft perch]

dont know how id fit petrified blood ever ngl

[proud gorge]

I think most skills that don't require some complicated set of interactions to function

[soft perch]

feels weird to not run wrath + grace

• u can get a lot of evasion from light of meaning

[hexed mountain]

my only issue with oshabi wander is that evasion stacking and taking wisps means you dont take shrines

[soft perch]

shrine nodes are awful

[hexed mountain]

and if you dont take shrine its a bit boring

[soft perch]

ur doing urself a favour

sure

[proud gorge]

like, most spells, most attacks, most, like, halfway decent builds

[hexed mountain]

talk better about shrines they're giga fun

[soft perch]

but fusillade + lightning warp in poets doesnt rly care

shrines are fun

but oshabi shrine nodes are kinda bad

and wont scale with shrine idols anymore

[golden moat]

you could have 9 quadrillion evasion and ud still get hit eventually, evasion uses a deterministic entropy system

[soft perch]

cuz it was a system change

[hexed mountain]

you nuke your damage by doing poet's pen though

[soft perch]

not really

poets is not that bad for damage

[hexed mountain]

slinger warp with a good wand is a lot stronger

[soft perch]

its also a lot slower

[hexed mountain]

and if you dont go shrines you can grab slinger node too

[desert stream]

are we talking about meta skills only? 20c nowadays won't hold far, unless you start like 1-2 weeks after the league start

[proud gorge]

hmm, I wonder if anyone's running Poet's Pen + The Squire, that seems like something that could vaguely work

[soft perch]

i suppose, i kinda wanted to click aul node

but i guess its not that amazing

i think eventually you just use like an 8l wand or something

but poets really isnt that bad for damage

[uneven gust]

??????????????

[hexed mountain]

for fusillade the endgame choice is skill in helm

helms get conc effect /less duration / hypo/ crit

[soft perch]

makes gearing way harder though

[proud gorge]

No? Like, most skills can do that. They might not do it super comfortably, but every skill that doesn't require 12 layers of interaction to work should be able to pretty reasonably clear T16s on like 1c uniques and at most 5c rares

[soft perch]

80% res from oshabi is pretty damn good

and fusillade doesnt rly need that many gem sockets

[hexed mountain]

also on wands the level 25 immolation is a metric Fuckton of damage

[proud gorge]

T16s aren't that hard, unless you're juicing it or pumping a bunch of atlas tree passives to make it way harder

[pulsar dune]

fussilade is an aoe skill, neat

[golden moat]

+4 extra mods is gonna make them hard

[proud gorge]

well yeah, but I'm talking about in general, not in the Phrecia event

[hexed mountain]

idk if i go KF this league tho , played like 80% of keepers on 3 different kinetic fusillade builds and i dont see a single ascendancy who can match warden's damage

outside of maybe indigon whisperer but i loathe playing indigon

[pulsar dune]

yea warden is broken damage

[vague steeple]

Phrecia - Paladin is only a Sup not more ? ^^

[elder marlin]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/Carmonaaa-3013/Wild_dex_stacker?i=0&search=items%3DGarukhan%2527s%2BFlight%252COne%2BWith%2BNothing%26keystones%3DHollow%2BPalm%2BTechnique%26sort%3Dehp any1 know why he can use mjolner with hollow palm?

[hexed mountain]

though ranger can FF oath of spring on fusillade and oath of spring is omegabusted

[desert stream]

for most skills? nah, I have my doubts

[normal hedge]

no? paladin is pretty solid even for a solo player but it doenst do anything crazy

[hexed mountain]

because fusillade with wisps hits like 150 times a second

[ocean field]

Holy goon

[hexed mountain]

you instant stack oath of spring to 100 shock

[proud gorge]

Paladin has always been designed as a support ascendancy that can also be used for non-support builds, though more niche. The main difference is that now Paladin gets "link skills can connect to damageable minions" for free, so they can also act as support for their own minions, instead of being restricted to aurabotting or using the unique that gives that same effect

[vague steeple]

ah last Phrecia pala is 90% for auras.

[carmine sundial]

How rare are memory tears exactly?

Gone through a hundred

[true flower]

do you have the premium game client or not?

[hard cliff]

just one minion

[hexed mountain]

paladin is a solid temporary ascendancy for people who want to play aristocrat/gambler endgame too

[normal hedge]

yeah because u're looking at last snap instead of day 1, paladin isnt great for endgame

[vague steeple]

Ah sad i was so happy to play a REAL pala. 😄

[hexed mountain]

ah answered by mistake

[proud gorge]

I've played like 80 different builds to maps, in various leagues, usually on a shoestring budget because turns out running campaign over and over isn't great for your budget lmao.

you very much can hit T16s on a mix of ground rares, 1-5c "trash" rares with a 3 alch benchcraft on them, and 1c uniques

[desert stream]

but that was my reasoning. Can you do most skills on 20c within first days reaching t16?

[ocean field]

Should I use this and does this work on harvest

[desert stream]

after 1-2 week yeah, most of the good rares are cheap af, but on a league start? decent one are not 1c for sure

[normal hedge]

only map quant affects harvest

[golden moat]

3 week league and ppl think theyre gonna pump out a multi mirror giga build, we'll see

[proud gorge]

A "cheap" rare means T3 life, 30% total res, those are pretty cheap even by the end of week 1

maybe not day 1 though

but like, that's not what I'm talking about, and neither is it what this build guide is talking about

[desert stream]

of course with async it is a bit different and maybe more cheap rares are on the market (due to easier supply) but still I have some doubts whether most skills can be that cheap

[ocean field]

Who said trickster can't do damage just use doryani

[golden moat]

the mob is still alive

[ocean field]

well it is dead now

[proud gorge]

the point is that that build guide was saying "oh this is a pretty cheap build, clears T16s at voidstones on a few div worth of gear" and I was saying that those two things are wildly differently priced, because most builds can clear T16s on like 20-30c of budget, but All Voidstones is a pretty big jump beyond that

[desert stream]

I mean I got the smoothest league start this time due to quickly figuring out due to some help that doryani is OP and I got my budget tille yellow maps of 10c, but that was because people were slow to change prices, as after a week 10c was just a helmet

[hexed mountain]

i think harold is a solid 0 budget 4 stones

[golden moat]

same

herald ascend is nuts

[proud gorge]

If you're running a Doryani's build then I wouldn't call that a "cheap leaguestarter"

[hexed mountain]

you just slap all 5 heralds , tempest shield arctic armour

and then take whatever phys spell you wish

[desert stream]

mah bad, I meant foulborn doedre

the helmet with ID

[hexed mountain]

that one might be a lot more expensive in phrecia

[proud gorge]

I mean yeah, that's a pretty powerful item, not too expensive but I still doubt it's a 1c "cheap" unique

[hexed mountain]

harbinger with ID helm is quite something

[golden moat]

https://pobb.in/pgGUxNAwiwZ4 phys spell? nah ppbrand

[desert stream]

now yeah, for sure as people found out that it is a breeze leaguestart

[desert stream]

it was first 3 days though 🙂

[hexed mountain]

for single target yeah its nice

[desert stream]

and then became 10c after that

[proud gorge]

but like, that's an example of a "non-standard skill". It's probably still pretty cheap, but it's a skill that requires interactions to function

[hexed mountain]

but on low budget day 1/2 you have no explode so you need a clear skill if you penance

[golden moat]

herald of ice and ash will probaby solve cleartbh

[hexed mountain]

not day 1/2

[proud gorge]

what I'm saying is that the vast majority of standard skills, the ones that operate on literally any gear because they don't need special interactions to function or do damage, can clear T16s on like 20-30c

[hexed mountain]

your penance isnt dealing enough without a lot of cast speed/damage to proc the heralds imo

once you get the build going sure

you're probably grabbing herald of scourge too

[desert stream]

maybe I am looking leaguestarters badly, but I never started nicely on any skill on that low budget, I would reach yellow maps already with a build of 50-60c on me in rares

[proud gorge]

it maybe won't the be most comfortable of T16 clears, sure, but you can very much do it

[golden moat]

idkkkkk.... we'll see. u can get decent dmg day 1 pbod

[proud gorge]

spell or attack?

[main grail]

whats gonna be a reliable league starter on phrecia? never played phercia before

[desert stream]

mostly spells, I am bad at looking for nice weapons

[haughty ermine]

fubbun's lightning arrow deadeye

[proud gorge]

there's some nice attack builds that are weapon agnostic

EHit, for example, doesn't really care about weapon damage

[desert stream]

I played somethine like ignite ea, still not 20c budget, at least for me

[haughty ermine]

for the most part

[proud gorge]

I do like how EHit scales like an old school spell build lmao

[haughty ermine]

same

it's wonderful in SSF

[proud gorge]

but yeah, as for spells, there's plenty of good options, depending on what you want to go for. Brands, Totems, and Traps tend to do incredibly well on low budget, but are a bit of a weird playstyle

you can probably play Surfcaster with Literally Any Lightning Spell

and it'll do fine

[hard cliff]

it sucks that storm call is unplayable without a woke gem

[proud gorge]

personally I like Icestorm, it's a nice fun leaguestart, usually very cheap since people get those cards thrown at them, and doesn't require you to 6l anything

I like builds that operate without 6-links in general, because you very much can do T16s on a 5-link, or a random corrupted 6-link, but those are kind of annoying to acquire

well, I guess less so

now that Async is around

we've got tree this league though, so random "ground" rares should be basically free this league

[pseudo axle]

yeah boots are free this league which is wild

I've hit so many like triple or quad tier 1 affix'd boots

like 35% MS and triple res

its wild

[ocean field]

is this worth anything??

[pseudo axle]

no

also not the place for price checks

[haughty ermine]

i don't care

[pseudo axle]

the only contracts worth anything are deception contracts

and those are like a few c?

[proud gorge]

but yeah, the thing about spells is they for the most part don't really have much difference in internal scaling, so grabbing any SSF-viable flat spell damage source and combining with Any Spell should work. Archmage is a classic, Battlemage is nice, and while Eblade is the standard way to play it, in early league you can do Battlemage on some high damage 1h weapon as a stopgap

[gentle chasm]

none of them are worth anything

[split maple]

Already running deceptions is Massive time loss

[pseudo axle]

gianna can use deception contracts to reveal discounted heist wings

[proud gorge]

on the other hand Lightning Conduit is great

[gentle chasm]

people just spam 1 wing bps

[hard cliff]

nobody asked

[proud gorge]

Lightning Conduit does so much damage on practically zero budget

[ocean field]

oh I see I don't run contracts so didn't know this just dropped from a mob in harvest and thought it maybe is worth smt

[proud gorge]

the only issues with LC are a) you have to be Elementalist, and b) it's a 2 button build, which I know annoys some people

[hexed mountain]

hm shield on oshabi only goes from 220K evasion to 250K on my pob , that's surely not worth using a 1H over a 2H

[proud gorge]

also I guess c) the typical way it's played has pretty low defensive investment, but it can't easily offscreen

but you can always do a more defensive build

Blue Life is pretty strong after all

and it has easily enough damage to manage

[hexed mountain]

wait , no shield means i can link my skill in the weapon on oshabi and can use starkonja for 150% inc evasion

that's BIG

[pseudo axle]

people aren't doing gianna blueprint shenanigans? fair I guess

[proud gorge]

armour + ES is a nice defensive skeleton, maybe throw on Cerberus Limb and Aegis Aurora once you get the budget

[hexed mountain]

up from 250 to 280K evasion by dropping shield

[proud gorge]

alternatively you could go Evasion + ES with ghost dance, but I prefer the Armour/ES variant

[hexed mountain]

i got pure evasion except for my necrotic armour and i have 3500 ES

[proud gorge]

though I guess that one's more dependent on Aegis Aurora

[hexed mountain]

4500 with shrine

[proud gorge]

though the Armour/ES mastery is a nice stopgap

that's such a good mastery

[hexed mountain]

its too had to reach 9K ES while stacking evasion for ghost dance though

hard*

[proud gorge]

5% ES recovery over 1 second when you take physical damage from a hit, stacking infinitely

[hexed mountain]

so we wasting some ghost dance

[gentle ice]

no idols nerf !? or they're just not in that post 😱

[coral summit]

I keep considering divine flesh but it's just so bad even in a league that has common charge theft+ele pen

for general mapping

[gentle chasm]

idols will be expensive enough to setup

[ocean field]

decent profit for 1 map. I was lowkey scard I would whiff this

[gentle ice]

probably gonna try Behemoth something 😁 i tried it in phrecia 3.26 but no spell was not fun at all for me so it didn't go very far 😅

[viscid sedge]

anyone got link to some poe 1 speed run discord or guide? 😄

[modest depot]

you basically just have to walk to one side of the zone to the other really really fast and boom

[proud gorge]

clearly you should do the The Build setup, Divine Flesh + Flawed Refuge + Hunter Bound By Destiny. It's, uh, a real build.

[modest depot]

record speed

np for free advice bro. please subscribe to my patreon if that helped

[coral summit]

ah yes, the "i would like to take a 250k ele hit as 40% phys in a league without endurance charges" build

lmao

[proud gorge]

usually combined with Foulborn Veil of the Night

[ocean field]

gng what are you guys gonna league start in prechia

[hard cliff]

end charges are free

[coral summit]

the generation isnt hard

it's that every other map will have monsters steal charges on hit

[hard cliff]

ohhh that's a good point 😔😔😔😔😔😔

[proud gorge]

well, we don't know that for sure

[modest depot]

but on the real i would say like 99% of the playerbase main issue is they kill too many monsters or they are stuck in town for wayyy too long.
if u solve those 2 issues then ur probably already top 5% for campaign time

[proud gorge]

some streamer apparently talked to the devs, and they may be putting that mod on the banlist tomorrow

maybe

[normal hedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1qog4s8/0_button_bladefall_of_thrarthus_with_crazy/

[proud gorge]

unconfirmed

[normal hedge]

[coral summit]

im running the world's most janky tri-ele spark build

tainted pact is definitely a unique item

honestly half the reason i want to run divine flesh is cuz it makes my own RF heal me

but if i'm not leeching I am also dying

because it has no room to stack max chaos res lmao

[haughty ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-around-pointing-smile-you-turning-gif-17235078

[gentle ice]

i might try a behemoth cyclone?/retaliation something not sure but i'll try something on my own and see whatever works i guess

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-hendry-wrestling-believe-tna-wwe-gif-9317925388469707358

[haughty ermine]

sounds fun

[normal hedge]

cyclone

[hexed mountain]

lowkey oshabi could also get mad life with untouched soul if you go for gloves/helm/armour you're at 672 flat life and 40% increased max life

[proud gorge]

Cyclone of tumult abyssus Vaal flicker with double woespike...

[hard cliff]

is rage vortex behemoth gonna be good this league or nahhh?

[normal hedge]

cyclone of tumult abyssus rage vortex of berserking vaal flicker strike with triple woespike

[gentle ice]

i had lots of fun on a crushing fist build tbh so i might lean towards retaliation rather than cyclone but it feels a bit clunky but it's still super fun 🤣 like i said we'll see what i feel like doing and see whatever feels better

[hard cliff]

ewww no cyclone

[proud gorge]

with Starforge

[hard cliff]

dumb meme skill

[proud gorge]

oh I was doing the South Park meme

but I guess that build's a bit too comprehensible

[hard cliff]

you guys are useless

[stoic horizon]

no u

[hard cliff]

I'm actually a productive member of the community

maybe the most productive

many people are saying this

[gentle ice]

however retaliation doesn't benefit much from rampage... meh i don't know i'll try to find something interesting to play

[stoic horizon]

yeah? then what products do you make