1┃general

[opaque sphinx]

i use all 3 titanics + blightheart+invig

sad

t16.5s are so ass dude, orbs of intention should just be like enkindles for originator maps and let u decide what ability u get before u enter

[spice pecan]

i wish it were easier to tell them apart

so i dont have to waste precious frames mousing down to em

[opaque sphinx]

at least we got 5 this time

[whole bluff]

Would probably improve gameplay if they were automatic

[deep ingot]

woah

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-dance-dance-among-us-purple-sus-gif-11799252726647481946

[opaque sphinx]

this just feel like a waste of time, im going back to feared lol

spend 10 mins rolling map to spend 5 mins to pray i hit right ability and then pray the layout isnt awful

[whole bluff]

Imagine if you could choose originator skills, and instead of f2, f3, etc, they just gave 20-30% for the petal effect on kill

[tranquil sedge]

quality of life? in my poe? surely not

[whole bluff]

Yeah, vision is meaning through pain, I know

[spare ore]

maybe it will be considered after 5 more years

[opaque sphinx]

idk intentions suck ass anyway just make them work like enkindles for the maps is easiest solution

[whole bluff]

We just gotta fill the friction quota. 5 years sounds like chefs kiss

[silent leaf]

banners? in my poe?

[tranquil sedge]

that's one more reason why im a little optimistic 3.28 might be good

because of how bad 3.27 was

[opaque sphinx]

tell me when you have EVER used or heard of anyone using this thing

[tranquil sedge]

not just because it would be relatively easy compare to 3.27 to make 3.28 good but like

they need a good league

[silent leaf]

first time i heard of that orb ngl

[tranquil sedge]

and their vision aside, they're absolutely capable of good execution if they want to

[spice pecan]

worse than a wisdom scroll tbh

[whole bluff]

I paid 30d to use these in a challenge

[silent leaf]

ah i see now

[tranquil sedge]

phrecia is basically as close as you'll get to ggg saying '3.27 sucked we know'

so 🤞 3.28 gonna have some nice qol changes

[opaque sphinx]

fair

[tranquil sedge]

because gotta throw scraps to the dogs sometimes

[opaque sphinx]

literally

just make them work like enkindles

[spare ore]

lmao ur right ngl

[split maple]

was used last league to farm bugged abyss socket items

[tranquil sedge]

but beyond that ye idk

[opaque sphinx]

ok outside of cheating

[tranquil sedge]

LOL

[whole bluff]

Doesn't the best items need ilvl 86 meaning they can't drop in 16.5 outside of abyss anyway?

Not all bases, but body etc

[opaque sphinx]

u can recombo them to higher lvl

[whole bluff]

But do they keep the strands then?

[opaque sphinx]

yes those are part of the base

[whole bluff]

Ah, neat

[drowsy eagle]

I farmed gold

[opaque sphinx]

valid i guess

still tho id rather seem them be enkindles for the map
slap map with orb "map contains flower power : w/e the fuck with 50-100% petal gain"

[drowsy eagle]

I think I'm gonna farm gold in phrecia too, idol gambling have no limit right?

[whole bluff]

So:

• Step 1: Put 60% less loot on your map
• Step 2: Recombinate the remaining 40% of loot to 20%
• Step 3: Say 10% of loot had strands
• Step 4: 1% of stranded loot was on good base
• Step 5: ???
• Step 6: Profit

[opaque sphinx]

nah its just not worth it usually

cuz if ur doing strand shit u do it on a good base with overqual etc

only reason u did it with abyss socket shit was cuz it was literally a bug

and it gave the item an abyss socket without having to use a mod slot

[whole bluff]

I assume it upgraded the abyss mod to a non-existing mod?

Without removing socket

[opaque sphinx]

not really sure how it functioned tbh

but basically it would let u make shit like this

but pretend it had all att instead of socket mod

but still also had socket

[tranquil sedge]

nah it just dropped them with an extra socket basically

[whole bluff]

Damn

[tranquil sedge]

but it was very difficult to make it worth it

like

you need it to drop the item, with sufficient ilvl, on correct basetype, with the extra socket

the odds were very low

[spice pecan]

not me playing builds with such intense socket pressure to where i couldnt use bugged abyss sockets anyway

[opaque sphinx]

those bases went from anywhere from 300d-2mirrors tho

[tranquil sedge]

perfect items went for up to mirrors for the base alone

[tranquil sedge]

its not about the socket pressure its about a free extra mod lol

[opaque sphinx]

yeh hes saying he doesnt have the sockets for abyss jewel tho

[tranquil sedge]

other way around, he's saying he does oh no u right

[spice pecan]

aurabot didnt really care about abyss jewel anyway xdd

it's sarcastic, i did not have the sockets available for it

[whole bluff]

My 6-7 golem types make do with 1 support on 2 of the golem types, flame dash has no supports, and besides flame dash + ancestral cry + leap slam of groundbreaking, I have no active skills

[tranquil sedge]

ye i had to read it twice

[finite quail]

6-7 golems...

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[silent leaf]

im going to hurt you

[native token]

im not sure if i wanna play phercia

seems cool but 3 weeks

[spice pecan]

there's a near 100% chance they extend it

[restive nova]

how will i know if i get this ? they look just like normal chest

[native token]

maybe ill play with async cheating

[whole bluff]

Corner the Faustus economy

[halcyon prawn]

they'll be small barrels that u can click

itll also be on ur minimap

[radiant jolt]

Its marked on the map.
You wont miss it

[restive nova]

thank you

[tranquil sedge]

i hate how possible this is

ffs just do it upfront and now, before it starts

[opaque sphinx]

no way they do

[tranquil sedge]

y not

[opaque sphinx]

new league starts 3 weeks after it ends as it is

[tranquil sedge]

it wont delay 3.28 to extend it by even up to 2 weeks

and barely anyone's playing 3.27

[opaque sphinx]

thats teaser/burn out season

ggg wants ppl to chill and come back with a vengeance for new league not play till the end

[tranquil sedge]

a week is more than enough downtime + they still haven't done what they said and made phrecia PL's yet

[native token]

i just need 5 min of poe2 gameplay

to be hyped for poe1

[tranquil sedge]

lmfao

[opaque sphinx]

for the 1000 or so diehards yes

for the others not so much

they wont keep phrecia up once league reveal is up 100%

[whole bluff]

Did they already postpone 3.28?

[spice pecan]

no

[fickle glen]

Anyone know if arrogance support works with chaos inoculation when supporting a an aura skill?

[native token]

maybe they delay 3.28 after 0.5

[spice pecan]

you dont have enough life to reserve or spend

so arrogance will not work

[radiant jolt]

You cant Reserve % of 1 hp

[split maple]

The real opportunity cost of CI

Kinda sadge there aren't more auras that would make that cost hurt more 😄

[whole bluff]

They should make an aura or two with life reservation from the get go

[split maple]

Awakened precision when

[whole bluff]

Lmao

[spare ore]

real shit

[radiant jolt]

Well Pb is that kinda

[leaden quiver]

this is your daily reminder that surfcaster will be op with fulcrum

[whole bluff]

PB should be that

[opaque sphinx]

[leaden quiver]

and the stoking xophgraft

[whole bluff]

But it doesn't cost life without arrogance

[fickle glen]

Are there ways to make chaos damage not bypass shield at all? I know some stats or perks reduce the bypass amount but idk if there is a way to completely stop it

[split maple]

It's kinda handy it's mana reserve by default

[spice pecan]

shavronne's wrappings, coruscating elixir

[radiant jolt]

There are multiple.
Best Look into Wiki.

[split maple]

Since you can more precisely reserve Life by arroganceing flat reserve auras

[native token]

@split maple gamermode or losermode in phercia

[split maple]

You usually want 56% unreserved life

[split maple]

Farming morigans for keepers if all goes to plan

[fickle glen]

That’s a specific number

[whole bluff]

I guess, with 1k mana and 4k life, 600 life reservation is 15%, while 300 mana reservation is 30%

[native token]

so you playing gamermode

[whole bluff]

And I suppose this

[split maple]

since there is life mastery for you count on lowlife on 55%

and you want a lil bit over to enable overleech

since if you cannot fill life (due to pb preventing recovery over 55), your leech instances dont disapear

[split maple]

adorned life

need to finish helicals before phrecia starts so i wont need to focus essences too 😄

[whole bluff]

I still think they should make a skill that baseline reserves life. Make it reserve like 20% and give 20% of max life as ES or something

[meager pagoda]

is there any quick reference "progress guide" for endgame bosses in POE? i've never done them before and its very confusing what i need to kill for the challenges

[dark sequoia]

do your leech instances get removed at 90% if you have the mastery for 'you are full life at 90%'

[whole bluff]

Do you mean It That Was Esh and It That Was Tul as in the challenge in Keepers league, or just what moves different bosses have?

[whole bluff]

Don't think so. It's not about full life status, it's about filling

[brazen vector]

Ubers are also a challenge

[whole bluff]

Ah, forgot

I got that left

[brazen vector]

So are many other endgame bosses for bloodlines

[whole bluff]

Ubers fragments all drop from t17 maps

[split maple]

this does not spark joy

[dark sequoia]

Bog Witch with Foulborn Rathpith seems like it will be super expensive.

[radiant jolt]

There are a couple of uniques which will skyrocket in price and utility

[brazen vector]

Do regular rathpith until you can afford a FB one

Ezpz

[native token]

@split maple what do we play

[radiant jolt]

Regular ratpiss is already 1-5 div on League start

[split maple]

wildspeaker ehots into mfa whisperer

mana do be good with foulborns

[dark sequoia]

Only 3 weeks hmm

basically ssf 😂

[brazen vector]

Most leagues die within 2-3 weeks either way

[whole bluff]

Is it these ones?

[dark sequoia]

Phrecia is saving me from playing heavy strike of trarthus

[native token]

can phecia saving me

from playing wow tbc

[brazen vector]

Phrecia wont save me from playing midnight

[whole bluff]

This helped me with Breach duo conditionals https://craniumviolence.github.io/

[spice pecan]

i am extremely in the same boat

[heady cliff]

now you would be playing light pat of thurtras?

[spice pecan]

ready to have my life just irreparably fucked up by phrecia + tbc

[dusky void]

patch notes?

[heady cliff]

notes patch when

[dark sequoia]

pat pat uwu

[dusky void]

STILL NOT OUT???? we all love GGG

[brazen vector]

[dark sequoia]

patch notes 30 minutes before leaguestart

[heady cliff]

patch notes 3 weeks after leaguestart

mystery ascendancy nodes, mystery idol affixes

[native token]

but can we maybe skip tbc

[opaque sphinx]

wow prob best feared all league

[heady cliff]

nice 157 gold

you rich now!

[spice pecan]

extremely nomegalul

i am not missing tbc again

i yearn for getting chain murdered in hellfire peninsula like its 2006

[dark sequoia]

Is foulborn sybil's paw any good?
uwu

Aegis Awoowa

[spice pecan]

what an interesting day to have eyes

my fault tbh

[native token]

eu or na server

[spice pecan]

NA

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-gif-5080568167377406268

[spice pecan]

and i play alliance

and i only play on pvp servers

[native token]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-meme-memes-meme-cat-gif-17050447336269230796

[spice pecan]

you could say i am a massive omegachad

[native token]

i play horde on EU ofc

[brazen vector]

Fellow alliance enjoyer

[native token]

alliance is cringe

alliance is the ruthless ssf from wow

[brazen vector]

Stinky orc

[native token]

im a bloodelf

hot af

[brazen vector]

Orc

[spice pecan]

'luv me stormwind
'luve me ironforge
'ate mudhut orgrimmar

simpl as

[native token]

i identify as female bloodelf paladin

[brazen vector]

Orc

[native token]

I dont like orc skincolour

[brazen vector]

Thats the best part about them

Green

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[native token]

green is the skincolour of slaves

gul dan words

[frigid wedge]

i feel like they're intending to just, not give us patch notes

[brazen vector]

I will give you patch notes uwu

[undone sparrow]

is there a new league?

[spice pecan]

kind of

[native token]

yes

[undone sparrow]

also anyone remembers me? xd

i see

[native token]

noone cares

[frigid wedge]

can i have your patch note

[spice pecan]

is it chewsday in new zealand yet

monday was a holiday

[frigid wedge]

:3

[spice pecan]

phrecia event is happening again

[thick goblet]

13 hours most likely till patch notes

[spice pecan]

fuark....................

[native token]

source: my glowing bulb

[thick goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[undone sparrow]

no fkin way man

here we go againn lol

[brazen vector]

OwO

[undone sparrow]

so thats new after keepers league?

[brazen vector]

During keepers

[undone sparrow]

i see

[spice pecan]

starts on tha 29th

[native token]

i think they shoud disable trade league for phrecia event

[undone sparrow]

so not exactly new league?

[brazen vector]

Yupp

[native token]

trade will be insane toxic

[undone sparrow]

then its k

[whole bluff]

I never played that game, but damn I like that character

[undone sparrow]

when we expecting new league tho?

[frigid wedge]

early march

[brazen vector]

[undone sparrow]

i quit keepersa already

i see march it is

[native token]

teasers around 4 weeks

[undone sparrow]

ty ty

also hi glorp girl

hows u been> 🙂

[brazen vector]

Hey RJR

[brazen vector]

Ups and downs but mainly downs, and you

[native token]

when do we get more updates in slomancer

[undone sparrow]

same old salaryman life

[frigid wedge]

Rock bottom: The only way is up

[undone sparrow]

made a few new friends irl tho

[brazen vector]

Hasn't there been one?

[undone sparrow]

life saw a few ups i am glad for

[dark sequoia]

Gonna do energy blade scav
and covert lightning to chaos with lycia bloodline and foulborn blue dream

[brazen vector]

Im glad to hear ^w^

[native token]

no new content

[brazen vector]

Awh, havent checked it out in a while

[native token]

https://www.chriswilson.gg/needed_cards/

xdd

[spice pecan]

I might have some japanese/chinese stuff he is looking for

but no one i know really collects about italian/spanish/portuguese/french cards

[native token]

i mean some natives maybe

[spice pecan]

i think ppl just play in english a lot of the time over localized cards, outside of asian languages

[frigid wedge]

doesnt chris collect misprint lands or smth

[spice pecan]

at least when i played in germany, everyone was playing with english cards

and german is a language that a lot of collectors value tbh

[native token]

apperently he doesnt need german cards

[spice pecan]

yeah, thats what i have the most of

[native token]

but why do people value german cards

[spice pecan]

but i have some kr/jp/cn stuff lying around probably

really long names, some funny cards like wilder nacatl

[native token]

i played poe1 on german client

for a week

was fun

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[spice pecan]

inquisition of kozilek in spanish is another funny one

no one expects the spanish inquisition

[frigid wedge]

me when i change my phone language to dutch

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[thick goblet]

yeah misprint lands but also one of every single land variation ever printed, 34k

[spice pecan]

I have a very off-center bayou

still havent sold it

[native token]

im sure chris can pay in alt arts race rewards

[spice pecan]

that would damage economic integrity

[native token]

std economy

xdd

[spice pecan]

and also rmt

omegalaughing

[heady cliff]

chris shall accept in-person trade only

doing otherwise is haram

[spice pecan]

that would be foolish for someone who lives in NZ

and is looking for hyper specific cards

[whole bluff]

Is there voice acting in alternative poe languages?

[fickle glen]

I just fought a boss that looks like Hermaeus Mora from Skyrim, how do I deal with the mech where the poo water rushes in from all directions?

[spice pecan]

follow the tide of the shit water

its kind of annoying to see

[native token]

imagine shaper voice line in french

omegalul

[whole bluff]

I need this in my life

[fickle glen]

It always cornered me into a single point and killed me

[spice pecan]

there arent corners during that phase of the boss

what

[whole bluff]

I want shaper to randomly use his voice lines in french, spanish, or german

Or swedish

[native token]

oriath is realy close to be a german design

all the flags

[spice pecan]

i want to hear sirus in kazakh

[fickle glen]

This is where the water usually rises up to and kills me because I have no where else to go

[whole bluff]

When you go into toilet, follow the stream to get flushed

[spice pecan]

are you actually fighting the boss here or are you at the part where he goes away and you have to walk through all the shit

to find him again

[fickle glen]

I killed him but like after 4 deaths

[native token]

i wonder

if poe2 player sstill making temples

[livid quarry]

i feel this guy above me has more than 3k hrs in poe2

[fickle glen]

Are pc players able to zoom in during fights?

[spice pecan]

yes

[fickle glen]

Wow no wonder why I couldn’t see where the tiny point of tide was moving

[bright viper]

How big is your screen

That's not a zooming in issue

[fickle glen]

You’re supposed to zoom in on the fight I guess during the tide

[whole bluff]

Controlled zoom is mostly kinda useless, but you can do it

[split maple]

you decided if you playing phrecia yet?

[native token]

around 500

and i spend 400 of them in sanctum

[spice pecan]

almost twice as many as me

im so, so sorry

[native token]

sanctum is fun

trust me

you get movespeed in sanctum

imagine that

[spice pecan]

sure let me just play sanctum on my perfect strike armor break ignite heavy stun warrior

that sounds like a great idea

[native token]

i consider it currently

i dont want to play tbc

but im addicted

[spice pecan]

yeah i yearn for tbc

[split maple]

regular breaks are important for handling long-term addiction 😉

[whole bluff]

What's tbc?

[spice pecan]

the burning crusade

[whole bluff]

Ah

[spice pecan]

first wow expansion, it's coming to classic

[whole bluff]

Didn't classic move forward years ago?

I would have expected MoP in classic soon

[spice pecan]

they have anniversary realms going on rn

[native token]

somehow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in5gWm9tfS8

i know this voice

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/onimaki-dance-goblin-dance-gamming-fictional-lore-dancing-gif-9311914724659580408

[dusky void]

anything else except arctic armour and petrified blood for non aura reservations?

[spice pecan]

autoexertion

tempest shield

[split maple]

flesh and stone, blood and sand

[spice pecan]

flesh and stone is aura tagged

BnS probably is too

[frigid wedge]

i swear flesh and stone still works

[split maple]

oh wait flesh and stone is aura tag

works with sublimes tho

[frigid wedge]

bc sublime specifically says you cannot be affected by

[spice pecan]

it does? lmao

[split maple]

https://poegems.com/?i=eyJuYSI6eyJ0YWdzIjpbIkF1cmEiXX0sInAiOnsicHNldWRvX3Jlc2VydmF0aW9uX2FuZCI6dHJ1ZX0sImZ0cyI6W119

that should be full list for has mana reservation and is not aura

[spice pecan]

holy manabond

[frigid wedge]

p sure pride and flesh and stone work

bc they don't affect you

they affect things in radius

[whole bluff]

Smh missing the best one. Autoexertion

[spice pecan]

flesh and stone should affect you if you are in sand stance specifically

[frigid wedge]

iirc it puts a less multi on the actual mob based on proximity

[split maple]

weird its not on the list

[spice pecan]

oh check this wording out too

[frigid wedge]

the stance itself isnt considered an aura buff

[spice pecan]

it calls it an aura for blood stance

[split maple]

i wanted to say its bc it makes cries reserve, but it itself has reserve line

[spice pecan]

but specifically says buff for sand stance

thats some interesting wording

[whole bluff]

What are we talking here? Don't sublimes for example even disable mine skills with aura tags?

I would be very surprised if FnS worked

[spice pecan]

it disables auras that specifically affect you

FnS apparently does, idk i dont play with sublime

[native token]

anscetral commander slams

MAYBE

[frigid wedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spice pecan]

i like my buffs and auras tybg

[frigid wedge]

mine auras go on you

[split maple]

unethical

[spice pecan]

not all of them do

new pyroclast mine of sabotage

[whole bluff]

My thinking is it shouldn't matter as per wording? Immortal blessing might differ

[frigid wedge]

the worst part is ik exactly why pyroclast got changed

[spice pecan]

its so fucking stupid

[native token]

wdym

how is it unethical

[spice pecan]

my understanding was some unethical shit with molten strike was going on

[whole bluff]

Sublimes just disable auras that aren't their specific one

[split maple]

too strong 😉

[spice pecan]

cuz like no one else used pyro of sabotage besides aurabots and druggery supports

[split maple]

like you get 60k phys max hit on bloody tree gear 😄

[frigid wedge]

someone did uber exarch in like 10s with zenith, sabotage mines and white gear

[spice pecan]

yeah it was that thing

[frigid wedge]

only affix was helmet mine throwing speed iirc

[spice pecan]

i vaguely remembered that

so unbelievably dumb

funny build tho

[whole bluff]

Ngl, was giga aura mines even a good thing for the game though?

[spice pecan]

was it... bad for the game?

[frigid wedge]

^

[whole bluff]

Sorta? Infinite dmg through cbt gameplay

[frigid wedge]

it caps out tho

[spice pecan]

i mean, that's very ggg coded

[frigid wedge]

based on reservation

[spare ore]

lmao

[spice pecan]

also there's a soft cap anyway bc you can only physically throw mines so fast

[frigid wedge]

surely instead of completely bricking it u could just only apply it for allies

scene as... yk rallying cry

[spice pecan]

i mean i will concede that 5k flat fire damage was like, insane

[frigid wedge]

yeah

but like

[whole bluff]

But like, the parts people don't like about poe2, giga aura mines are like those but way worse?

[frigid wedge]

nerf it slightly and make it apply to allies only

[spice pecan]

but i don't really think it was a problem outside of some stupid cheese

yeah

[frigid wedge]

facebreaker+rallying support char is still stronger by like 10x

[spice pecan]

parties really need flat damage because mobs get so fucked up

[frigid wedge]

if u do that

[frigid wedge]

kinda forces party play into attack skills

bc now u really need wrath flat

[spice pecan]

yeah, at least for 6mans spell carries have been dead for a while

outside of the one league where hydra spectre or w/e was busted

[frigid wedge]

spark carry is aight

[spice pecan]

yeah, thats kind of the only viable one for 6mans

at least spell carries are decent in duo/trio

[native token]

you dont like strong builds ?

[frigid wedge]

issue w spell carry is that armour stacking is only balanced by the amount u gotta invest into reservation

and with a gracebot there is no opportunity cost

so it just goes giga

[spice pecan]

and when you have an aurabot to offload all the auras onto it's pretty free

empy's group played behemoth armorstacker in phrecia1

which makes total sense since you don't need spells in that case xdd

[frigid wedge]

yeah bc its fucking absurd

[spice pecan]

that shit was nuts

[split maple]

i like messing with u

[frigid wedge]

and has the option to run effectively triple dreamfeather

[split maple]

i would be starting es ancom for sure if i didnt want to have ranger leveled for keepers later

[spice pecan]

yeah

[spice pecan]

slams in the year of our lord and savior in 2k26 also known as 2026

[frigid wedge]

at some point i wanna try earthquake armourstacker

on std

[spice pecan]

i kinda want to poke into their like 3.24 pob or a little bit earlier for when they played bama carry

bama is not a build i would expect to do hundreds of billions of dps in party

[frigid wedge]

bama is still attacks

[spice pecan]

yeah but i mean

[frigid wedge]

and it did billions anyway in 3.24

[spice pecan]

it doesn't like scream scaling potential, at least w/ other player scaling

but ive never tried it

[whole bluff]

In settlers, BAMA party would have seemed kinda obscene

[spice pecan]

i think 3.25 is when they swapped to armor stacker

[whole bluff]

With the rune for ES or life or whatever to flat dmg

[frigid wedge]

bama was just kinda crazy

[spice pecan]

well we didnt have runegrafts back then but we had the runecrafting bench for wep enchants ye

unrelated topic; is there any way to get "remove person from syndicate" to show up more frequently

im practicing setting up a board

and i'm starting to have about as little fun as i had the first time

[frigid wedge]

get them to 0 rank

[spice pecan]

i mean they're all 1 star

[frigid wedge]

so they show up in more encounters

[spice pecan]

or at least most

[frigid wedge]

interrogate the 1 star

[spice pecan]

yeah they're either 0 or 1

[frigid wedge]

to 0

[spice pecan]

i interrogate everyone except my 2 2s

[frigid wedge]

and then form some connections

0 rank members show up in far more encounters

[spice pecan]

i literally just cannot kick anyone out, like ever

[frigid wedge]

so u get more chances for remove

[elder marlin]

https://pobb.in/KY4vWGGd2BCR what can i upgrade to get dot cap, im so close to it

[frigid wedge]

iirc rivalry also helps

[spice pecan]

dont want to set up relations before 2255 is established

been burned by that before tbh

[frigid wedge]

u can relate specifically to the one ur removing

bc all of them go poof

[spice pecan]

oh you can?

[frigid wedge]

all connections to a removed member disappear

[spice pecan]

i see

im not rly targeting a specific person atm to remove

[frigid wedge]

so u can connect to someone ur removing as much as u want

until they go bye bye

[spice pecan]

i just need to kick someone out

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[spice pecan]

haku/leo/vorici/grav are all i care about having on the board, the rest can go fuck themselves lmao

and grav WAS on the board but he just fucking noped out

no idea wtf happened to him

[frigid wedge]

poofed like my ability to talk to people irl

[whole bluff]

I did that decades ago smh

[stray sedge]

how rare is Daresso's Defiance?

[spice pecan]

that's the chest right?

[split maple]

t3, so same as cloak of flame for comparison

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Analysis_of_unique_item_tiers

[spice pecan]

i think it's like a t3 yeah

not super rare, but personally would not play a build in ssf that requires it

[stray sedge]

oh wow thats nice, shouldn't be too hard to get early into maps from trade

no no its for the new league lol

[spice pecan]

yeah it'll be available relatively early day 1

6 link maybe not so much but

[whole bluff]

Daresso has no like expensive item afaik

[stray sedge]

I'm playing a slow ass slammer and the onslaught effect with armour / eva will be nice

[onyx adder]

T3 with 0 demand is 1c day 1

With demand t3 can be expensive

Nobody wants daresso tho

[split maple]

oh the poor newbs ssf starting rf chief then trying to gamble cloaks instead of settling on rare

[spice pecan]

vixen's entrapment is like the most in demand t3 outside of cloak of flame i think right

[split maple]

idk how they farm milions of gold in early maps

[spice pecan]

dude fuck faustus gamba for uniques honestly

i burned something like 800k gold in ssf last league

trying to get a fucking widowhail

A WIDOWHAIL

[split maple]

widowhail is 1 in 7 ancient orb

planing to get mine that way in phrecia

[spice pecan]

didnt have ancients in ssf at the time but yea

[whole bluff]

If only ancients were good, phrecia will prolly print them

If you want them at least

But not in SSF cuz idols

It's like a perfectly dysfunctional situation

[split maple]

buy 6link silverbranch -> ancient it -> sell to mfa lazyass

maybe will even be a nice hustle

[whole bluff]

Does it keep links when anciented?

I thought it was .newItem

[split maple]

oh it doesnt -.-

yea buy any silverbranch

[whole bluff]

[spice pecan]

6L silverbranch is already somewhat spendy no

since that's like the twink bow

[split maple]

i am kinda worried about simple stuff in my legstart plan

like farming 1 timeless jewel just with map device legions

or getting 7 ancients

[spice pecan]

damn, map drop timeless is kind of a flex

[split maple]

maps drop enough splinters for a single 5way

without atlas support

gonna be annoying

[spice pecan]

i think its easier to rely on full emblem drops for 5ways idk

depends on how ez it is to guarantee generals maybe

[split maple]

if i get destructive play early and then some 1mod legion and harb idols before i finish farming indigon it will be smooth sailing

if not well it will be character building

[spice pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/holes-digging-movie-gif-21383590

"you aren't digging to find anything, you're digging to build character"

man holes is such a goated book and movie

[whole bluff]

Most goated book I read is still Fight Club, even though I read books where I cared way more for the characters and the author said the movie is better

His take on what sperms in condoms in a toilet must think etc is well put

[stoic horizon]

[finite quail]

hmmm yes very much poe related

[split maple]

Poe players cannot read so offtopic

[whole bluff]

True

I thought this was gen chat 1

[split maple]

Tho I rly liked fight club when I read it, was a long while ago tho

[whole bluff]

Same

[split maple]

Kinda scared to reread it since it feels to me like one of these books which are rly good when 17

[whole bluff]

I was prolly doing my "sleep 5 nights a week" thing, cuz sertralin without downers

Probably

I was like 21 and very messed up

[spice pecan]

mood, used sertraline before, didn't really do anything to me but i slept a lot more than i already do tbh

[whole bluff]

I was on abilify for a few years. First it was fine. Then after a year instead of needing 8h but sleeping 6h, I slept 9h and didn't care. After 2 years like 10h. After 4 years like 15h

[spice pecan]

never used abilify, but i've been on almost every antidepressant out there at some point

some of those withdrawals get real fucked up

[soft perch]

ur better off using paradoxica at that point

i do think surfcaster armour stacker is better than behemoth tho

sea legs is ridiculous

[spice pecan]

probably not for party play

[soft perch]

can even use foulborn skin of the loyal this league

[whole bluff]

I managed to convince them to give me sertraline again cuz my life was like an early or late funeral

[spice pecan]

but for solo yeah most likely

[soft perch]

still for party play?

u get purity auras multiplied by skin of the loyal

most armourstackers are noncrit cuz its hard to fit it in

surf just gets crit for free

[crisp plinth]

@soft perch toss me a fun comfy mapper that isn't flicker for the event please

[spice pecan]

crit armor stacker is a recent thing, it does exist now

but also you can use a replica df with paradoxica

[soft perch]

u are vastly underestimating how strong sea legs is

sea legs is insane

[spice pecan]

is a rare chest with cold overcap not already just better

[soft perch]

?

u can have both

[spice pecan]

since skin doesn't have any intrinsic defenses

[soft perch]

the point is u can use it before u have that

[pulsar dune]

flat pool is an issue on armstack

[soft perch]

for extra crit and shit like enmitys embrace

[spice pecan]

enmity's is already a given but yeah

[soft perch]

surfcaster armstack is insane

even in party

[spice pecan]

idk if behemoth armor stack even goes CI, but hopefully it does bc you really really need the ES from something like a twilight

[pulsar dune]

how do you get flat fire for enmity? Surfcaster can do some horrors with conversions, but under normal circumstances.

[spice pecan]

also yeah flat fire is shaky rn

cuz pyroclast mine of sabotage got gutted

[soft perch]

u just convert from cold to fire

[spice pecan]

doesnt that require fucking up your glove slot

[soft perch]

no

[pulsar dune]

it's one ring and one support

[whole bluff]

Or could maybe do one support and keystone?

[spice pecan]

cold to fire support

[soft perch]

cold to fire support is very good

the x to x supports tend to be strong

[frigid wedge]

i said the option

[pulsar dune]

I mean, no, it isn't, it's probably weaker than a real support

but not by much

[frigid wedge]

ideal behemoth stacker would go 12 link lets be real

[native token]

@split maple lets go yugioh 1v1

[spice pecan]

tfw my favorite deck from high school is only 50% legal in edison format

[whole bluff]

It's a good thing c2f gives some extra cold as fire at least. On theme and big draw

[spice pecan]

[native token]

edison and goat only

[whole bluff]

Even if not 39% more

[native token]

blackwing in edison and chaos turbo in goat

[spice pecan]

reptile worms got printed on like the cusp of edison

[pulsar dune]

with the usual 2.5-ish aura effect budget aurabots get, on a 50 res enemy, with 200 enmity pen, pyroclast mine of sabotage is 24 flat mana reservation for around 40% more damage

[spice pecan]

not tryna play blackwings again

[soft perch]

eh i doubt it

[native token]

i like goat more

i think its more skillful

[spice pecan]

pyroclast of sabotage no longer adds flat fire tho

it gives fire pen

[soft perch]

squire is honestly not that good of an item

and u can get a big flat evasion/armour shield

[pulsar dune]

yea, but look at how much exposure

[soft perch]

and paradoxica is more than double dam by itself

[spice pecan]

if you're going to use a shield on an armor stacker, why choose anything but AA

[pulsar dune]

it's like 80 negative res

that's like half an enmity for one gem and negligible reservation on the aurabot

[spice pecan]

i thought you cannot pen past -200

[pulsar dune]

ofc, actually finding flat fire is a bit rough

it's not pen

[spice pecan]

oh wait

[pulsar dune]

and pen is not capped

[spice pecan]

pyro of sabotage is expose isn't it

[pulsar dune]

yea, it's exposure

[spice pecan]

idk deadge skill to me

probably worth tho

[pulsar dune]

I wonder if you just go like strstack carry or smth on behemoth for higher end

since you kinda really need flat

[opal ingot]

iirc you still can, but anything past 200 is crazy diminishing returns (for reasons i dont understand) no?

i will check the wiki

[pulsar dune]

it's not crazy diminishing returns afaik, just regular diminishing returns

[opal ingot]

ah

[modest depot]

svalinn is good

[pulsar dune]

going from 20 to 10 res is way better than going from -140 to -150

[whole bluff]

I never felt like aura mines were real cuz they just dont seem fun, but I guess if they're still a thing they're still a thing

[modest depot]

depends on if u want to go ci or not

[soft perch]

i do agree with herro tho i think surfcaster is better than behemoth

[spice pecan]

i feel like you kinda have to go CI

[modest depot]

going armour stack es without overcap chest is

[soft perch]

in party too

[steel light]

i'm on 209 fire pen i think? Enmity's Embrace Vermillion Ring existed

[spice pecan]

behemoth is not playable outside of party

but yeah

[soft perch]

well ye

[pulsar dune]

behemoth just has baseline double damage-ish

[modest depot]

this was my phrecia carry last time https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/yeeyeeasshaircut-6005/Brandon_ASA?i=1&search=name%3Dbrandon

[pulsar dune]

from having two replica dreamfeathers built-in

[modest depot]

gg character then i just made some fuck ass random helmet lol

[pulsar dune]

idk if that's better than surfer

[modest depot]

it is surfer

was just sayin i don't think u need to go ci armour stack

[split maple]

Only enmity is caped to 200

Pene in general isnt

[modest depot]

this one felt pretty strong and was doing ghosted exiles in phrecia comfortably with that rarity

[pulsar dune]

CI is probably not needed, yea.

[spice pecan]

is that pob like getting fucked by ninja config or something

[modest depot]

wdym

maybe

[soft perch]

its not a solo build

[whole bluff]

Aura bot is missing

[pulsar dune]

ninja doesn't have the aurabot

[modest depot]

its a duo build yeah

[spice pecan]

yeah that was my next q

is if it was duo or 6man

[soft perch]

u can play solo surfcaster

[native token]

do we still open tree till mageblood in phercia

[modest depot]

was the aurabot https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/phrecia/character/arkzabor1-4946/Phrec_Browee?i=0&search=name%3Dbrowee

[frigid wedge]

on a serious note what does druggery support click to go low life now

[modest depot]

pretty budget setup between both builds tbh

[soft perch]

paladin is so vile tho

[modest depot]

could've easily spent more with how much we were making with exiles

[frigid wedge]

do you just arrogance reserve ur petrified blood now

[modest depot]

but yeah essentially the problem with going es armour stack is getting relevant nodes to click

and still having es

you are so stretched on points

[spice pecan]

which is why i still ended up going es lom + unnatural

and even then barely had like 7k

[whole bluff]

Armour stack usually only has like 4k ES anyway right?

[frigid wedge]

8k

unsupported ones

ish

iirc

5 to 8

[spice pecan]

it's sub-6k if you're using a non-es base chest

yeah

[whole bluff]

Ah, different variants

[frigid wedge]

but in group play ur usually supported by mana guard

[modest depot]

this was my carry last league in a private league. could also make it surfcaster ig https://pobb.in/fB7Hvmxu8v3O

[frigid wedge]

so it doesnt rlly matter

[modest depot]

also duo but has aurabot

[spice pecan]

well mana guardian is the 6th group member

so it more or less has to be a 6man but yeah

[whole bluff]

I guess when I actually saw some vids was a league when people went bad body armour

[frigid wedge]

yeah

gracebot sometimes has discipline

[modest depot]

but in general go behemoth in duo is cringe cuz u lose purity of elements

[spice pecan]

i wouldnt rly consider behemoth for duo, probably only trio+

but i mostly look at party play from 6man perspective

[modest depot]

tbh i was gonna pob armour stack surfcaster duo es based with f*f for soul soul drinker and it would probably go hard

[soft perch]

u can probs go reverse chill on armstack surf in a bigger party

[spice pecan]

can't chill self with purity of elements tho no?

[whole bluff]

Auxium life based? Or self poison?

[whole bluff]

Also that's a thing ye

[spice pecan]

and my aurabot aint dropping purity of elements tbh

[soft perch]

u cant no

[whole bluff]

Just having mageblood on support is so wild

Or "mageblood"

[frigid wedge]

carry is honestly cheapest group play role

[soft perch]

mageblood no work on paladin

[spice pecan]

uh, i would not agree with that

[frigid wedge]

its formless flame, dreamfeathers, perfect form

and a couple other things

[spice pecan]

i think drugger support is probably the cheapest, carry usually needs a ton of clusters and jewels and shit

[frigid wedge]

a giga expensive armourstack carry is like a 30% diff

between spending 2d on uniques

[spice pecan]

drugger basically wears like 3 items that are 1c

[frigid wedge]

yeah maybe

last time i played drug it ate 200d

[whole bluff]

Sad wording. Though I love GGG for their wording after playing LE

[frigid wedge]

on crybot+druggery hybrid

[spice pecan]

i think if you can get into the synth jewel game early and you have a trader, it can possibly be cheaper

[soft perch]

i love ggg for their games after playing LE cuz that shit suck

[spice pecan]

have you heard of path of exile 2

[whole bluff]

That things mostly actually work exactly as written in PoE is nice

[soft perch]

i like poe2

[spice pecan]

there's no 12 step program for that

(that is totally valid and fine)

[whole bluff]

You just gotta understand all the context, and it's not random

Sometimes there's an error, but usually it's a rule a new player might not know

Which could be communicated better I guess. But I just like that things actually work

[soft perch]

nearby

[whole bluff]

That's the sore thumb

In LE though, 7 seconds on buff bar and 8 seconds is on skill description is the equivalent of nearby and more common

Felt like to me

At least nearby isn't misinformation, it's just no information

Though it's nice in LE that sometimes a skill will convert as a concept rather than the tooltip being a lawyer writing how he interpreted a code change

[devout widget]

Anyone has the ascendancies for Murader?

[spice pecan]

????

[devout widget]

for Phrecia

[spice pecan]

we don't have patch notes dude lol

all we know is what they were before in 3.25

[devout widget]

oh, my bad

i thought it would be out, since its out in like 3days

[spice pecan]

not going to be surprised if ggg waits till like 3h before queue

before they drop them

[devout widget]

xD

[frigid wedge]

we have them, but we dont know what's being changed about them

[devout widget]

yea, i was talking about this leagues one, i have the old one

[frigid wedge]

ye we dont have the new

[devout widget]

what u playing in phercia, if u playing phrecia

[spice pecan]

idk anymore

im technically cooking a cursebot pob for a trio start

[devout widget]

trio start?

[spice pecan]

but i know deep down that cursebot is bad

[spice pecan]

3 man party

[frigid wedge]

antiquarian

[devout widget]

ooh i see

[frigid wedge]

spark prob

[devout widget]

i was thinking of playing shield crush, but i dont know which ascendancy works the best for it

[frigid wedge]

most of them work ok

u gotta decide how u wanna scale

[devout widget]

ill probably stack endurance and rage, for stats ill stack armor

[frigid wedge]

ok

so why not ancom

[devout widget]

i know jug works decent in the normal ascendancy, but idk for new one

[frigid wedge]

w replica dreamfeather

ancestral commander is honestly just better jugg

for everything other than accuracy attack speed

[devout widget]

ok, but is there any in phrecia?

i hope they release the ascendancy in a day or two, so i can cook

in pob

[spice pecan]

we're hoping by tuesday NZ time

but very doubtful

[unborn lodge]

we will get the patch notes 12 hour before patch

[grizzled lily]

in the queue

[tight plinth]

wait what

[unborn lodge]

prob some minor balancing

and nerf to indigon whisperer

[whole bluff]

Tuesday is my "I believe in guides day"

[grizzled lily]

use logic

[tight plinth]

i has none

[spice pecan]

monday was a holiday so shirley chewsday right

[grizzled lily]

its 0 for every normal ascendency

its a website bug

no, gladiator wasnt part of the phrecia ascendencies

[frigid wedge]

ignores trickster, ascendant, deadeye and bers and specifically questions glad

observation 100

[tight plinth]

is the first thing i saw

[unique kraken]

I hope they add a phrecia ascendancy for totems this time
They did like 2 or 3 for minions but nothing for totems (except +1 totem and they take damage instead of you, great copy from poe2)

[grave vine]

When notes

[frigid wedge]

neva!!!

[ocean field]

how many stages should I put here?

[spice pecan]

i think you have to divide mirage duration by amt of time it takes to gain a stage

or take which stage it would be on by halfway thru the duration

so if it's 2.3s duration, then figure out what stage they're at by 1.15s

[tight plinth]

afaik, it will try to charge to max stages by how much the duration it has

[ocean field]

how long does it take to get to 6 stages

[spice pecan]

thats something you have to figure out

[ocean field]

or imma just put 1 here

[spice pecan]

depends on your attack speed and shit

[ocean field]

should I put channel and release

or just channel

[spice pecan]

do they only release if they channel to full stages

[ocean field]

ah

lemme just put channel then

[spice pecan]

cuz flameblast of celerity auto-releases if it hits max stages

but other channeling skills dont

so that was a legit question

but then again, if you put regular flameblast on totems, they will release the second they hit max stages

so idk

[ocean field]

I see

btw

what can I put here instead of these

I have 4 free gem slots

what to put

[spice pecan]

uh

[tight plinth]

can you hold down the button for gens cry and it keep casting?

[spice pecan]

no idea

[spice pecan]

no, its a warcry being triggered by autoexert

holding the button does nothing

[tight plinth]

i mean without autoexert

[spice pecan]

that still only would cast it on cooldown

the mirages have their own AI irrespective of player input

[frigid wedge]

its a warcry

[tight plinth]

yeah thats what i want, cast it on cd

[frigid wedge]

it ismt instant

[spice pecan]

autoexert is already casting it on cooldown

[frigid wedge]

it respects warcry speed

iirc

[tight plinth]

but i dont want autoexert

[spice pecan]

that's great, but that isn't what he wants

and it's his pob i assume

if it's yours and you dont want autoexert you can numlock trick i guess

[frigid wedge]

does that work if a skill has both a cooldown and a use time?

[tight plinth]

no i was asking for me

[spice pecan]

i believe so? might cause some stuttery movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAI8s8rft4

the only ref i have for numlock tricking

back when quin was watchable and entertaining

[frigid wedge]

did the server icon just change

[spice pecan]

nomegalul

[frigid wedge]

my disc bugged and nottom went white

[ocean field]

https://pobb.in/Sc6luD6E2oix fellas what do you think?

Costs around 500 div

immune to almost all mods

[frigid wedge]

too much res

[ocean field]

yeah kinda need it when I get hit with negative ress

if u are talking about max res that is

[spice pecan]

no you have too much lightning res

you need to be at -200

[ocean field]

yeah idk

how to achieve that

very hard

cause of temperad

i need like -400%

rn I just pen to 189

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[spice pecan]

what

tempered by war gives you 50% less light res

[frigid wedge]

sorry why do you have 41 pen

[frigid wedge]

it reduces the magnitude

[spice pecan]

oh you're right

[ocean field]

this applies to negative ress as well

[frigid wedge]

it doesnt care if its positive or negative

[spice pecan]

yeah i forgot

[ocean field]

I just threw it in there

[spice pecan]

drop shav ring for a kalandra

[ocean field]

cause I don't have better altenatives

[ocean field]

yeah might do that

[spice pecan]

if you are doryani your #1 priority is -200 light res

your #2 priority is avoiding the fuck out of mana donut

[ocean field]

damm bro is right

kalandra better

[frigid wedge]

nah honestly its not that bad here

[spice pecan]

you can get mana on hit from a jewel somewhere to make up for the mana recovery you lose by dropping shav ring

[frigid wedge]

but u gotta invest less in pen

[ocean field]

idk what other support I should put here bro

[frigid wedge]

bc pen has diminishing returns

[ocean field]

pen dimishes when it hits like 200 right

rn I only got 189

[frigid wedge]

it diminishes

generally

[ocean field]

true that

[spice pecan]

could literally go woke aoe for quality of life

ngl

[frigid wedge]

the more pen/reduction to enemy res u have the less the next one does

[spice pecan]

or conc effect if you want more single target

[open yarrow]

Hello I am a coming back players, I used to play on playstation and recently switched to Pc last time i played was a year ago if not longer does it matter if I can access my old character or not? and how to?

[spice pecan]

unfortunately due to sony's end, you basically cannot transfer stuff from playstation to pc

it is somewhat possible from xbox to pc, but afaik, sony will not allow it

[frigid wedge]

random person just said hello miss to me

[open yarrow]

sad, typical sony, happpened in almost every game i ever played really making me regret not switching earlier 💔

[spice pecan]

if you only care about whatever you had on pc, then yes that is absolutely still accessible

but yeah your playstation stuff is basically trapped on their platform

[ocean field]

i see

[frigid wedge]

would ele focus give u any problems?

u should shock with blade flurry

and its highest dps elemental support

[open yarrow]

nah I just switched to pc I have nothing here, sadge ig I have to start again anyways since its a whole different league

[spice pecan]

yeah plus most ppl are restarting on the 29th anyway due to phrecia 2.0

so it's probably not a bad time to just start fresh

[frigid wedge]

@ocean field try awa ele focus

[spice pecan]

but yea rip your stash tabs etc

[ocean field]

nah I inflict shock

[open yarrow]

oh what is happening on the 29th? do I need to restart aswell?

[frigid wedge]

so does blade flurry

which u have already

[ocean field]

but does blade flurry inflict 65%

[frigid wedge]

check

[ocean field]

btw ruthless seems to be good

[frigid wedge]

final burst would prob get p high

[ocean field]

oh I see

idk how to test this do

how will I know if they reach 6 stages

or less

cause they will only reach the maxx if they release

ie. channel and release

[frigid wedge]

they channel to max iirc

always

[spice pecan]

it doesnt look like it's a channel and release skill

[frigid wedge]

and then relesde

[spice pecan]

at least not in terms of how it functions

[ocean field]

it has an option in pob

[spice pecan]

like you SHOULD release at max stages but it does not forcibly do so, unlike flameblast of celerity

yes, but proxies will not know that

[ocean field]

oh idk then lol

[frigid wedge]

its gen cry

[spice pecan]

proxies generally continue to channel until max stages + the skill is meant to be released , like reg flameblast

[frigid wedge]

so it full channels

[spice pecan]

ye and the mirages have no instruction to release it at max stages

unlike flameblast, again

like if you used stormburst they would just keep channeling

[ocean field]

maybe they release at the end of their duration

idk

[frigid wedge]

mm

[spice pecan]

highly doubt

[frigid wedge]

they channel to max and keep channrlling

apparently

according to wiki b

[ocean field]

well I guess ruthless then

[frigid wedge]

based on duration and as

[spice pecan]

that is how i understand it, after having played proxies w/ channeling skills before

[ocean field]

well any other improvements??

like tree

or items

spent way too much time on pob ngl

[spice pecan]

shoutout to flameblast of contraction

being literally unscalable

[ocean field]

build is mostly immune to everything you throw at it

and does get cooked by res mods

moreover not a crit build

and not based on accuracy

I lowkey hate crit

[spice pecan]

you also get insta deleted by mana donut

smile

hope you love that

[frigid wedge]

es is kinda low

for es stacking

tbh

[spice pecan]

also

[frigid wedge]

consider int stacking a bit

[spice pecan]

is that a 2.1 mist on that helical

is this actual unobtainium type shit

[brazen vector]

Es is okay for using a dory chest

[frigid wedge]

ig so but its still ee

[spice pecan]

int stack with a 1250es twilight would yield almost the same damage but far more defense