hey this guy is on discord hes not working!
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native abyss
golden phoenix
I once had the number 2,147,483,647 show up in my data. I did not trust it.
spice pecan
I once had the number 2,147,483,647 show up in my data. I did not trust it.
most morally dubious number out there, tbh
tall belfry
I once had the number 2,147,483,647 show up in my data. I did not trust it.
This reads like stack overflow
fiery marsh
He's a CM it's okay
lucid gale
Suspiciously round numbers are the worst.
split maple
hey this guy is on discord hes not working!
gonna bet thats zao's
native abyss
enhance the reddit username
tall belfry
hey this guy is on discord hes not working!
Hey Bex is in that discord chat
golden phoenix
A tool I regularly use defaults to returning 1000 rows if you don't specify a different number.
I once got 1000 rows back and went oh shit I forgot to change the return limit.
I had not forgotten, there were just exactly 1000 rows. Was surreal.
fiery marsh
Hey Bex is in that discord chat
Ahh Bex
tall belfry
Lmfao
fiery marsh
Moneys
spice pecan
👀 ❓
fiery marsh
Makes sense tbh. D rarer than ex
spice pecan
divs and exalts are same rarity i think
fiery marsh
Well actually same rarity no?
tall belfry
Ex to d was done to encourage slamming and discourage rolling timeless
rancid peak
A tool I regularly use defaults to returning 1000 rows if you don't specify a di...
Any recommendations for a guy with no experience on what to do to get a job at GGG?
spice pecan
Ex to d was done to encourage slamming and discourage rolling timeless
tyty burned like 50 divines in the private league to try and get like, two notables
fiery marsh
Any recommendations for a guy with no experience on what to do to get a job at G...
Become an intern
spice pecan
lmaoo
split maple
do we know "To start with, every area will have a random number of map modifiers, with this number scaling up with area level. " whats the expected number of mods there?
golden phoenix
Sorry, don't think I can give any good advice there. I kinda accidentally fell into a position. Right skills at the right time.
rancid peak
Sorry, don't think I can give any good advice there. I kinda accidentally fell i...
Nah you good. Glad it worked out for you 👍
fiery marsh
Yeah but why GGG don't list a public phone number on there Google info?
tall belfry
To stop you specifically from calling
rancid peak
Become an intern
Fair enough. Trying to get into development, got my cert in Front end/back end dev a few years ago and trying to refresh on it. Gave up because no one was accepting applications but I thought Id give it another shot
thick goblet
do we know "To start with, every area will have a random number of map modifiers...
saw someone on twitter say it should be 2 free risk scarabs on t16/t17s? or something
so im guessing 4 mods, but the source could've just been making shit up
native abyss
im gonna be the next remote GGG intern you heard it here first 💯
fiery marsh
To stop you specifically from calling
I'd call all the time askin bout league start
tall belfry
saw someone on twitter say it should be 2 free risk scarabs on t16/t17s? or some...
It was from fubgun so ymmv
rancid peak
im gonna be the next remote GGG intern you heard it here first 💯
I live a few minutes from the Headquarters, so Im good for location 🤣
split maple
saw someone on twitter say it should be 2 free risk scarabs on t16/t17s? or some...
having 2 free risks with curated mods gonna kinda slap 😄
fiery marsh
having 2 free risks with curated mods gonna kinda slap 😄
Risk gonna slap period
cosmic reef
I live a few minutes from the Headquarters, so Im good for location 🤣
just loiter in the parking lot and yell at johnathan as hes leaving work, he'll hire you
fiery marsh
Not many builds do risk
split maple
idk Muph limit=1 is now a thing
its not anymore last leg 4-5x risk n go
- scarb is now 15x rarer than last leg so prices will be awkward
barren river
IMHO we need Muph limit=0
fiery marsh
Still. A free scarab plus enraged unique mobs. Deadly
fiery marsh
Will help map drops
rancid peak
just loiter in the parking lot and yell at johnathan as hes leaving work, he'll ...
Maybe I should pull the Maori card 🤣
tall belfry
Selecting the console role should just ban you from the discord automatically tbh
cosmic reef
should be very fun league shame its only 3 weeks, should just make it a 4 month league and focus on poe2 it desperately needs some bug fixing asap
barren river
Selecting the console role should just ban you from the discord automatically tb...
Uhhh
tall belfry
I know what I said
spice pecan
should be very fun league shame its only 3 weeks, should just make it a 4 month...
cant rly do that because they need to make and sell supporter packs, have races, etc
at least that's what i assume
split maple
wait a bit given that they adding settler idols
soft perch
ggg should hire me despite me having terrible opinions and absolutely no useful skills
tall belfry
Plus if you delay poe1 leagues even more people will fucking riot
split maple
will it finally be possible to farm tatos and svalinne sanely
imagine getting 60% chance for lost shipments or smh like that 😄
golden phoenix
Having good opinions is not necessarily a job requirement
tall belfry
What about good opinions about poe
thick goblet
that could be a very funny pinned message
golden phoenix
My favorite skills are frozen legion and divine ire
finite quail
My favorite skills are frozen legion and divine ire
fired
tall belfry
Divine ire is based so that makes sense
potent horizon
im enjoying kinetic rain right now as a light radius stacker but i think my fav is winter orb
or hydro sphere
golden phoenix
Winter orb is probably my third favorite
potent horizon
winter orb is so silly
potent horizon
relatable
split maple
can someone eli5 me why folks are excited about whisperer for kboc (not for mfa, i get why that is build enabling and op)? it just feels like midder than hiero to me, maybe a tad easier damage early due to flat from mana node
like no aoe, no es from mana, strong bias into hybrid instead of ci
tall belfry
can someone eli5 me why folks are excited about whisperer for kboc (not for mfa,...
Cuz wander in ranger zone is peak
split maple
okay what is it actually taking that isnt just split shot
spice pecan
can someone eli5 me why folks are excited about whisperer for kboc (not for mfa,...
1 mana per 1 dex, free awakened fork, archmage node, 4 frenzy and power charges
tall belfry
Plus fork yeah
split maple
you dont take woke fork in league with refraction runegraft
spice pecan
why not both
earnest raven
tall belfry
Free afork is just gravy anyways
spice pecan
even then, you can take crown of eyes node instead
or rage on mana spend
the ascendancy has a lot of really good nodes
split maple
easy rage is nice yeah so you have flexibler glove slot than on hiero
tall belfry
Whisperer looks like a top 3 asc to me tbh
split maple
i just feel kinda awkward about lossing aoe and defensive story
spice pecan
and as someone who played it back in 3.25 it was nuts
split maple
Whisperer looks like a top 3 asc to me tbh
top 2 for me for sure
tall belfry
i just feel kinda awkward about lossing aoe and defensive story
Less aoe isn't really a problem with more as and proj
split maple
about dexstack story i am rly not sure, i feel like in the end it will kinda be similiar to lightres stack on hiero in that you take light res and just get some dex on helicals and dont rly stack it
cosmic reef
ggg should hire me despite me having terrible opinions and absolutely no useful ...
ggg should hire me becasue im a liability and ticking time bomb
split maple
due to suffix pressure
gritty garnet
just get a smaller monitor so it looks like you have more aoe
spice pecan
about dexstack story i am rly not sure, i feel like in the end it will kinda be ...
dex/mana stack allows you to scale damage off both prefixes and suffixes which is nice
split maple
yeah but we got fbl choir now
cosmic reef
just get a smaller monitor so it looks like you have more aoe
nah people with 2 monitors get zero bitches
spice pecan
what if i have 3 monitors
tall belfry
What if I have 5
golden phoenix
I have two at home and three at work.
split maple
like i rly feel like endgame story for whisperer is gonna be fbl choir, maybe that dex wheel on tree, some dex on misted helicals for the grand total in the end of maybe 700-1000 dex, focusing more on lightres
wooden elm
nah people with 2 monitors get zero bitches
😿
tall belfry
Anything less than 4 is unusable
split maple
and in that context thats not much different from what hiero/guardian is currently taking int-wise
tall belfry
and in that context thats not much different from what hiero/guardian is current...
Heiro is also not available in phrecia
spice pecan
i think you can get plenty more dex than that
split maple
Heiro is also not available in phrecia
yeah i am comparing hiero in keepers to whisp in phrecia
in current situation it feels kinda unexciting
split maple
i think you can get plenty more dex than that
you can, but should you? like i rly feel like lightres gonna be more efficient
either via small clusterinos or adorned
tall belfry
Right but if people want to do wander in phrecia, it's kinda the best bet to go whisper
spice pecan
light res stacking is omega giga bait
split maple
Right but if people want to do wander in phrecia, it's kinda the best bet to go ...
thats for sure yeah
spice pecan
that shit falls off after a10 kitava SO damn hard
split maple
not light radius mythik
tall belfry
Ehhh
split maple
lightning resistance
tall belfry
Moving on
spice pecan
i mean why not go dex/mana/light res
tall belfry
Lmao
spice pecan
also, atziri's foible is a good amulet choice
tall belfry
That made me laugh so damn hard lmfao
spice pecan
maybe before choir tho
earnest raven
Ey, if you ain't fishing in phrecia, you're not playing the game
soft perch
Right but if people want to do wander in phrecia, it's kinda the best bet to go ...
idk surfcaster makes u so damn fast
earnest raven
Speed baby
tall belfry
idk surfcaster makes u so damn fast
This is true
split maple
i mean why not go dex/mana/light res
bc you rly dont have jewel suffixes free for both neither in small cluster nor adorned setup
so what dex you get is basically what you get on helicals
finite quail
Yall, if I'm low life and I have a way to make this recover life immediately, would it recover full life isntantly?
soft perch
i think surfcaster is a better wander than whisperer, shoot me
earnest raven
It is
tall belfry
Surfcaster is probably just the best asc period
spice pecan
ancestral commander is
fickle glen
Hey, can this axe scale from both dual wielding stats and two handed stats?
tall belfry
Maybe only fighting with asc comm
spice pecan
but surfcaster is good
finite quail
Hey, can this axe scale from both dual wielding stats and two handed stats?
both
gritty garnet
yes, but not one-handed stats
soft perch
ancestral commander is a hc ascendancy
finite quail
I think
spice pecan
bc you rly dont have jewel suffixes free for both neither in small cluster nor a...
i mean you still have access to as much dex as a str stacker has str
soft perch
and more of a, idk just click it and flesh flame the jugg node lol
spice pecan
no?
soft perch
i think surfcaster having the esh chest mod is a big deal
tall belfry
Easier to get str imo
soft perch
u can spellsling forbidden rite for self chill
split maple
i mean you still have access to as much dex as a str stacker has str
i will pob a bit, but i kinda feel like its not gonna be worth grabing more than like 700-900 dex
soft perch
im pretty sure surfcaster is just him
gritty garnet
Yall, if I'm low life and I have a way to make this recover life immediately, wo...
if you're playing a lowlife build just use a panicked divine life flask which still lets you have another flask suffix
spice pecan
i will pob a bit, but i kinda feel like its not gonna be worth grabing more than...
might also want to see what tech palsteron was using in his 3.25 video
tall belfry
They're for sure patching defiance off of commander tho
No shot that makes it through notes
split maple
yeah i was digging through palsterons yesterday, i will legstart his stuff with just minimal changes
soft perch
i think bog shaman spark is gonna be vile
lifestacking is way stronger than last phrecia
and u can str stack a bit for the proj speed grafts
its gonna be stupid
soft perch
im playing fury valve spark is that not meme enough for u
tall belfry
ITS NOT NO
soft perch
people out here playing penance brand bro
at least fury valve spark of unpredictability has some zane
tall belfry
people out here playing penance brand bro
These guys hate fun tho so
soft perch
its not my fault the average spell in poe1 is DOGSHIT
golden phoenix
Play divine ire. It's goes kaboom.
tall belfry
It's fine I'm gonna play some steaming hot pile of melee
soft perch
like yea man id play other spells if they werent total ass
shadow socket
you ever uhh cast a fireball
soft perch
you ever uhh cast a fireball
only the vaal variety
shadow socket
super good spell dude trust me bro
tall belfry
I'm thinking of playing fuckin dual strike so
gritty garnet
I miss old firestorm that just crashed if you stacked 30 of them in one spot
shadow socket
icestorm was even worse
spice pecan
dual strike 
shadow socket
that shit made your fps -100
split maple
kinda painge you cannot get both light res overcap into crit and dex attack speed grasping mods on same item if that item isnt grasping mail 😄
gritty garnet
icestorm didn't have those siege balls mtx though
tall belfry
dual strike <:ICANT:1016787542902833222>
Honestly, numbers look good
It's just negative qol as fuck
gritty garnet
I think those were like 30 particles per cast
spice pecan
ambidexterity is good
soft perch
kinda painge you cannot get both light res overcap into crit and dex attack spee...
just click surfcaster
xdd
ambidexterity is objectively worse viper strike of the mamba
split maple
doing kboc on surfcaster kinda feels to me like waste of surfcaster
finite quail
if you're playing a lowlife build just use a panicked divine life flask which st...
I'm lifestacking and life+mana cost stacking
tall belfry
ambidexterity is good
Nah I want that juicy 450% eff
soft perch
doing kboc on surfcaster kinda feels to me like waste of surfcaster
why
if anything its one of the best surfcaster users
split maple
idk just slap on pbod and explodeys and go fast
stuck phoenix
kinda painge you cannot get both light res overcap into crit and dex attack spee...
Biblical levels of greed
soft perch
doesnt have any clear aids
outside of shock prolif bereks
the best part of surfcaster is the chill stuff
and pbod doesnt even get the action speed 🥀
split maple
werent some hot autobombers viable on surfy too iirc
shadow socket
dog
golden phoenix
Is there a world in which I go fulcrum divine ire surfcaster?
spice pecan
werent some hot autobombers viable on surfy too iirc
kind of, but you had to work around the bug with the fishing rod crit node
soft perch
i legit think wand surfcaster is the strongest form of surfcaster
synergises with choir, easy to proc chill
whats not to love
tall belfry
Is there a world in which I go fulcrum divine ire surfcaster?
Probably this world
spice pecan
the fishing rod crit node doesnt actually make all hits crit, it just adds like 10000% inc crit chance
so you had to get base crit onto herald of thunder to allow it to crit
gritty garnet
surfcaster ghost stacking was a bust and you can get the funny 4 pointer on a single runegraft if you ship hard enough
lucid gale
Is there a world in which I go fulcrum divine ire surfcaster?
All blue MTX, smurfcaster.
finite quail
shadow socket
isnt that just harbinger lol
finite quail
the cost
silent leaf
Harbing goes binted
stuck phoenix
All blue MTX, smurfcaster.
If you want to be blue we have an ascendancy for that. It's called Harbinger.
soft perch
harbinger probably best day 1 ascendancy with the impending doom hat
probs the easiest most idiotproof build, ever
shadow socket
gl getting hat though
tall belfry
I don't want to touch harbinger tho
soft perch
gl getting hat though
its giga common
spice pecan
beacon of madness harbinger with the runegraft of the warp node + the runegraft itself
soft perch
u can target farm it very easily
spice pecan
plus some other debuff reducing stuff
soft perch
people were farming it in ssf
steel did that
just click more hats and u get foulborn hat very fast
spice pecan
you also need vixens
spice pecan
and there are so many people that do not understand you need exactly 3 curse limit for it to work
gritty garnet
what tier is vixens
soft perch
i think its t2
still, impending doom garbinger is very idiot proof obviously strong build
spice pecan
also you need different cdr based upon which base class you are
cuz of different animation timings
lucid gale
If you want to be blue we have an ascendancy for that. It's called Harbinger.
Back in the days when I ran RF, I dressed up in the Harbinger set as a Templar and used their blue RF MTX.
Great for flavour, horrible for finding yourself when actually fighting harbls.
stoic horizon
spice pecan
u even get free blasphemy temp chains
if running a curse aura then you need 4 curse limit tho
anathema + vixens solves that tho
golden phoenix
God I love this game 
lucid gale
finite quail
blue waffle flameblast
silent leaf
blue waffle flameblast
ptsd of 2010s
soft perch
am i missing something about impending doom
ppl are acting like cdr is super important
vixens trigger cd is 0.25
curse base cast speed is 0.5 seconds
u need over 100% inc cast speed before cdr has any value no?
finite quail
100% inc cast speed isnt hard to get
soft perch
it actually kinda is
in amounts that u actually want to or should be clicking, especially for an impending doom setup
32% from rings, t1 cast speed on a wand is 32%
no guarantee you have frenzies on bosses, onslaught on bosses nope
umbral crag
No idea about impeding doom set up what it looks like, but if you're doing dual wand that's alrdy 64% cast speed there.
stray sedge
You could get that one wheel near the witch start. It alone gives 18%, then theres the starting nodes as well
soft perch
pls dont use dual wands
stray sedge
until your gear is setup
umbral crag
And then your passive trees
soft perch
You could get that one wheel near the witch start. It alone gives 18%, then ther...
yes but u dont have to click these
nor are they particularly great
stray sedge
umbral crag
Well, as i said no idea how impeding doom as a character actually works kek
wooden elm
pls dont use dual wands
defense is propaganda
soft perch
ye the point is cdr isnt super impactful
umbral crag
I mean, helical+ wand should give you near 100% alrdy i reckon
soft perch
cast speed helicals are not exactly early game
also gl getting helicals in this event
finite quail
32% from rings, t1 cast speed on a wand is 32%
42% from one profane wand with minroll t1 cast speed
84% with two
then rings then tree then rest of gear then maybe support gems
soft perch
stop equipping 2 wands
finite quail
never
stray sedge
I feel like linking one of the build guides would make this a lot easier
umbral crag
cast speed helicals are not exactly early game
So we talking about phrecia event and restricting to early game only?
spice pecan
dual wand was only decent on like, ice nova of frostbolts on budget i thought
umbral crag
Missed the context
finite quail
also u dont use cast speed supports
spell echo?
soft perch
spell echo?
no
finite quail
why not
soft perch
not for impending doom
finite quail
ah
soft perch
the point of this was that cdr is not crazy useful for impending doom unless u have a very setup character and can overinvest into cast speed
finite quail
Hmmmm....
umbral crag
But yeah
finite quail
shid I forgot to include ff jewels in that
soft perch
just assessing the value of harbinger asc
its decent dont get me wrong
and 100% inc aoe is definitely great
but it doesnt seem any better than occultist is
especially for first few days of league
finite quail
soft perch
this better be bog shaman spark
also 18% more dam for 2 forbidden jewels is pretty mid
finite quail
it is
finite quail
also 18% more dam for 2 forbidden jewels is pretty mid
I'm still checking other nodes
finite quail
like elementalist shock
poison
pulsar dune
Why nova over unpredictability?
finite quail
Why nova over unpredictability?
its more fun
pulsar dune
Fair
soft perch
elementalist shock is crazy on poison
finite quail
Shock works on poison?
soft perch
ofc
finite quail
Dang
soft perch
unbound ailments also scales elementalist shock node a lot
finite quail
Lemme check
pulsar dune
It's additive with wither, but that's about all the constraints.
soft perch
wither is almost always overstated like crazy
the new wither wand is genuinely quite good early on
pulsar dune
Spark can stack it up pretty comfortably
soft perch
its pretty enforced ashes of the stars withering step
do u have unbound ailments in links
pulsar dune
Surely you can click some wither on hit somewhere.
finite quail
Surely you can click some wither on hit somewhere.
I did now
I forgot to do it back when I started the config kek
finite quail
do u have unbound ailments in links
yes
soft perch
Surely you can click some wither on hit somewhere.
this is not really something that exists in good quantities
finite quail
Yes
soft perch
whats your wither source
finite quail
balance of terror
Since despair is hot dps and so is wither
from 14m dps down to 5.5m dps if I disable despair
soft perch
ur probably not gonna get more than a few wither stacks with that
finite quail
finite quail
ur probably not gonna get more than a few wither stacks with that
its spark
soft perch
yes
spark can only hit once every 0.66 seconds per cast
wither stacks are individual
getting ~7.5 spark hits a second takes quite a lot of cast speed and proj speed and skill effect duration
especially with spark of the nova
pulsar dune
They're at 5 cast rate, they need half the sparks to hit at least twice
soft perch
They're at 5 cast rate, they need half the sparks to hit at least twice
confused by the math here
pulsar dune
Every spark cast will hit once pretty much, so if half the casts get a second hit, that's 7.5/s
potent horizon
if im using two eclipse solaris is it even worth using anger for more flat fire
or is it negligible
pulsar dune
POB should tell you, but anger is usually pretty bad
soft perch
Every spark cast will hit once pretty much, so if half the casts get a second hi...
well its closer to all of them getting a second hit because of rearm timings
potent horizon
I just dont use it for my own builds
soft perch
he will hit 15 wither from pure turreting, but it will come into effect after like 3 seconds of turreting
fickle glen
At what map tiers do I start getting the good cluster jewels?
split maple
i mostly farm t3 if i need notable ones?
pulsar dune
he will hit 15 wither from pure turreting, but it will come into effect after li...
That seems fine considering it's poison
split maple
majority of them like low ilvls
soft perch
That seems fine considering it's poison
tbh now that i think about it
split maple
for 35% effect ones just send mappers, cba to farm t17 clusters
soft perch
its actually quite a bit worse
purely cuz of spark of the nova
spark of the nova actually hurts ur single target quite a lot
consistency of spark hits on a single target is a lot worse
fickle glen
majority of them like low ilvls
I’ve only found 2 and they’re magic tiers
split maple
expecting to drop a fully crafted cluster is kinda unrealistic
soft perch
im definitely an unpredictability fury valve enjoyer now
thick goblet
I’ve only found 2 and they’re magic tiers
you dont drop good clusters, you have to craft them up
fickle glen
you dont drop good clusters, you have to craft them up
You can upgrade them to unique?
split maple
and to farm clusters spec in unending nightmare and use mania and paranoia scarbies, you will get multiple inventories per map
split maple
You can upgrade them to unique?
to rare
unique clusters are deli bosses drops
so you want to use for them deli scarab of neuroses
fickle glen
Ok cool
soft perch
is this with nova
split maple
but theres like one or two decent unique ones only and they kinda very build specific
soft perch
right but does the tool simulate the nova
finite quail
since 14 proj as it should be fucks up the shooting angle and makes it shoot projs in an arc instead of in a nova
fickle glen
Glad I saved these, was wondering when to use them
finite quail
right but does the tool simulate the nova
Yes
soft perch
tbh i didnt realise u were at almost 5 second duration
150% inc skill effect duration is a lot
split maple
Glad I saved these, was wondering when to use them
check list of unique ones to see if its even worth for you to farm them: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Small_Cluster_Jewel#Unique_versions
soft perch
how does balance of terror work does it update projectiles dynamically
or does it only work on projectiles created after pressing despair
if its the latter thats a bit unfortunate cuz it fucks up ur preload
finite quail
It doesn't really matter since I always recast it before the timer is up
The effect is always up
soft perch
yea true u can just despair thin air lul
finite quail
If I don't, the dps is fucked
soft perch
and then despair the boss on spawn
finite quail
Yeah
soft perch
god bog shaman is so fuckin good
soft perch
sanguine power + toad pact + nightblood lifestack spark on giga gear is gonna do ridiculous damage
finite quail
Its nutty
finite quail
sanguine power + toad pact + nightblood lifestack spark on giga gear is gonna do...
No toad pact
soft perch
wait ur not using toad pact
finite quail
It would be very hot for dps
But I am unsure if I should get it
Since im stacking increased cost stuff
soft perch
what are u taking instead
fickle glen
check list of unique ones to see if its even worth for you to farm them: https:/...
That kineticism seems what I need
finite quail
So I take nameless bloodline node
100% mana cost as additional life cost
and 20% of life cost gained as chaos dmg
soft perch
u know u can just use runegraft of the witchmark instead
finite quail
u know u can just use runegraft of the witchmark instead
You cn stack them
soft perch
and forget about the mana cost as additional lifecost
and just put lifetap in links
its way more damage
lifetap eliminates ur base mana cost so all of that stuff is gone
and brings a big cost multiplier
finite quail
UHHHHHH
soft perch
im not sure if the nameless bloodline notable is worth it over toad pact at that point
soft perch
🙂
finite quail
Of the life cost is FUCKED with it
soft perch
yea it gets crazy lul
u like actually need to tone it down a bit
but its quite a lot more efficient
finite quail
Buttttttt I think the nameless bloodline shenanigans are actually a fucking waste now
finite quail
Toad pact time
soft perch
u dont even need runegraft of the witchmark either
u can use archmage instead
but actually good luck at that point
soft perch
o7
finite quail
hold on lemme check uber dps
soft perch
yea bog shaman is fucking r i d i c u l o u s
finite quail
SHEESH
soft perch
i think when u get into the big boy gear u have to go lifestack dissolution
its like the only way to sustain life cost
finite quail
I fogor about dissolution
soft perch
and lifestack has so many benefits
finite quail
oops
split maple
That kineticism seems what I need
for what? like no one uses that
crisp plinth
finite quail
Adding dissolution now
fickle glen
for what? like no one uses that
Thinking it could be used for defensive play but I could be wrong
soft perch
dont forget disso basically needs immunity to everything ever
are u pobbing with foulborn rathpith
finite quail
are u pobbing with foulborn rathpith
widowhail
soft perch
ok fair enough sounds decent too
finite quail
Without it it'd be ass
cause no proj speed
Or, well, not enough for it to actually be fun
soft perch
ye my plan is to use str stack grafts
soft perch
gl sustaining the life
finite quail
They're really not
Its like half the soul gain speed
you gain one every .5 sec instead of .25 sec with foulborn hh
soft perch
but megablood
finite quail
but megablood
No megablood for this build
Otherwise no laviangas with the traitor
Juggling both mana cost and life cost at the same time would be far too difficult
soft perch
what mana cost
soft perch
but if u have lifetap it has no cost
finite quail
not running lifetap
soft perch
tight plinth
anyone have a maw of mischief ignite pob handy?
finite quail
Actually I can drop archmage support now
since I'm not trying to stack mana no more
tight plinth
not phrecia pob, normal maw pob
astral cipher
Does the heritage weapon mtx make the claw look like a sword or dagger?
frigid wedge
my entire build idea just got killed by an attribute requirement of 47
finite quail
uh
good reason not to run lifetap
spending more life per second than I have fucking life bro
frigid wedge
my entire build idea just got killed by an attribute requirement of 47
im gonna throw a fuckin fit
47
soft perch
spending more life per second than I have fucking life bro
lowkey just remove some supports xdd
imagine not having to use laviangas at all
finite quail
lowkey just remove some supports xdd
just lifetap
soft perch
dissolution + eternal youth
finite quail
oh
soft perch
eternal youth is like the main reason why u click disso
cuz its very good life sustain
finite quail
hmmm holon
cosmic reef
spending more life per second than I have fucking life bro
just regenerate 1 mil life per second
frigid wedge
why are half the required items to str stack on an attack locked behind an int requirement
pulsar dune
The game hates you personally
split maple
why are half the required items to str stack on an attack locked behind an int r...
to make int+str split personalities not sad
cosmic reef
golden rule + tainted pact + self harm leech flask + self harm + poison chance over 40% = unlimited life for lifestacket
frigid wedge
to make int+str split personalities not sad
but i wanna click duration per strength and i dont wanna have to click supreme ostentation
finite quail
golden rule + tainted pact + self harm leech flask + self harm + poison chance o...
Could be perchance
frigid wedge
and lose iron fortress dmg and and and life
but str stackers dont get % other than iron will
cosmic reef
Could be perchance
?
frigid wedge
;-;
split maple
100% reducing attr requirement turned out to be imposible, right?
soft perch
u mightve clicked something that turns off recharge
shadow socket
not on antiquarian at least
frigid wedge
100% reducing attr requirement turned out to be imposible, right?
i imagine so
split maple
idk antiquarian forcing either supreme ostentation or omni is sad as fuck
soft perch
cuz ur poison duration will be longer than ur leech duration ever is
and u will just instantly die
cosmic reef
cuz ur poison duration will be longer than ur leech duration ever is
thats just not true
finite quail
u mightve clicked something that turns off recharge
Don't think so
soft perch
if you are a poison build
it is
cuz u want to scale ur poison duration
its damage
wooden elm
my entire build idea just got killed by an attribute requirement of 47
is there no way for you to get 50 dex on gear, tree, jewel?
finite quail
omfg I just noticed
frigid wedge
its int
finite quail
A SINGLE SPARK CAST COSTS 7.5k LIFE
frigid wedge
is there no way for you to get 50 dex on gear, tree, jewel?
antiquarian cannot have int
ie no alberons
wooden elm
oh...
shadow socket
thats why you go eternal youth
finite quail
thats why you go eternal youth
it doesnt work
shadow socket
it does lol
frigid wedge
i can skip out on alberons and play a fire dmg str stacker but then i have no inc dmg
shadow socket
ive done a lot of disso builds
wooden elm
before giving yourself yoo much of a headache, why not wait for the patch notes and see if some of those nodes get reworked.
frigid wedge
other than 12 passive clusters
spice pecan
if you take damage your life recharge turns off tho, no?
shadow socket
pob isnt the game
frigid wedge
before giving yourself yoo much of a headache, why not wait for the patch notes ...
bc they put out patch notes 2 days before things start
shadow socket
if you take damage your life recharge turns off tho, no?
not with petrified blood
pulsar dune
not with petrified blood
You mean dissolution?
split maple
bc they put out patch notes 2 days before things start
if we are lucky
wooden elm
not with petrified blood
okay but... the ascendancies are gonna change. why stress before you know what they're gonna be?
cosmic reef
if you are a poison build
my build gains .3 seconds of leech instances every .16 seconds, I never have to think about the leech
shadow socket
You mean dissolution?
yes sorry got ahead of myself
soft perch
u have to actually fully automate without casting for that
or u will just randomly die
cosmic reef
u have to actually fully automate without casting for that
yeah it costs 2 skill gems, and 1 ring
wooden elm
how on earth does discord think that's who i meant to reply to...
fickle glen
Do cluster jewels give different passives if you place them in a different slot on the map?
soft perch
ur heartbound looping?
spice pecan
no
split maple
no
cosmic reef
yeah
fickle glen
Ok ty
split maple
but rly habibi stop considering unique clusters
aint worth the headache
in general stop considering clusters for now 😄
finite quail
you have something that turns off your recharge
I checked through the whole thing tho didnt find it
holon lemme make a link
cosmic reef
Do cluster jewels give different passives if you place them in a different slot ...
no
fickle glen
Just researching for now, nothing on the go yet
spark idol
Pls buff surfcaster
frigid wedge
do I genuinely need to play a str stacker with supreme ostentation
ughhhh
no% inc here we come
ig i can solve accuracy and crit
finite quail
https://pobb.in/R4iij932wGBL @soft perch check to see if you can find it
soft perch
do I genuinely need to play a str stacker with supreme ostentation
god no
finite quail
I couldnt
cosmic reef
supreme ostentation sucks ass why do you need to run it
pulsar dune
supreme ostentation sucks ass why do you need to run it
Antiquarian
soft perch
supreme ostentation and attribute stack should never be together
cosmic reef
huh
split maple
do I genuinely need to play a str stacker with supreme ostentation
idt you even get duration per str if you use supreme ost
soft perch
antiquarian is not worth it
frigid wedge
idt you even get duration per str if you use supreme ost
yeah it disables inherent
so the life and melee phys
pulsar dune
There are some sources of % inc per str, so you aren't completely doomed, just a little doomed
split maple
oh wait you do still get duration from antiq there, i misread the wiki
shadow socket
split maple
but yeah its kinda ass
frigid wedge
oh wait you do still get duration from antiq there, i misread the wiki
so i CAN do it, but it's gonna be bleh
finite quail
Oh so it just wasnt showing in the gain/lose stats
frigid wedge
hybrid dex str body with shapers touch time? holy
finite quail
cosmic reef
what is this duration build enabling
finite quail
what is this duration build enabling
spark
soft perch
@finite quail well uhh
soft perch
ur also not gonna recharge cuz ur using righteous fire of arcane devotion
finite quail
I acutally put on more duration support as a joke
frigid wedge
str stacking a spell is awkward
finite quail
ur also not gonna recharge cuz ur using righteous fire of arcane devotion
that is true
cosmic reef
would the 50% duration 50% proj speed on bog shaman do the same thing kinda without totally gimping you and giving you a whole junk ass ascendancu
finite quail
more like 4.5k without leech
frigid wedge
would the 50% duration 50% proj speed on bog shaman do the same thing kinda with...
i primarily wanna use ward
spark and thunderstorm fit well bc they hit like 800 times a second
frigid wedge
yes but its also an attack so its just better for str stack
frigid wedge
tbh now i wanna play thunderstorm antiquarian
come and join my madness
soft perch
i was considering whisperer thunderstorm
frigid wedge
we're taking olroth bloodline instead of global defences bc gigachad
frigid wedge
i want ward restore on hit
soft perch
i want 60% more damage and hits cant be evaded
frigid wedge
thats why thunderstorm or spark is even a consideration
shadow socket
guess who has far shot
frigid wedge
antiquarian
shadow socket
ayy
frigid wedge
im just not gonna click it
soft perch
id rather funny number
frigid wedge
wait if i go shapers touch but crit helm how do i get more ward
i just get 5k
and it sits
bc no faithguard
and no runic shit
soft perch
faithguard bad
cosmic reef
5k ehp thats kinda rough
frigid wedge
5k ward
soft perch
maybe not as bad
frigid wedge
restored multiple times per second
does ward just prevent the entire hit of damage?
spice pecan
it prevents damage up to the amount you have
frigid wedge
right
shadow socket
up to the ward value yes
frigid wedge
doesnt seem so bad
frigid wedge
so what, like 9k ward ish
that comes back constantly
that doesn't sound bad tbh
ye im fine w this i think
alberons, rare glove, rare dex str body, elevated warlord helm, poised prism, something something non unique bow, yndas stand
random jewellery
(no osin bc jewel ig)
ok im happy w that
clear lodge
Would kb deadeye league starter be able to farm harvest for currency in red maps alc and go?
finite quail
Would kb deadeye league starter be able to farm harvest for currency in red maps...
you already asked this
and we already answered you
spice pecan
i thought you asked this yesterday
clear lodge
I asked for elementalist I didn't know if deadeye would he any different
pulsar dune
Surely KB deadeye can do harvest
spice pecan
deadeye arguably worse
finite quail
I asked for elementalist I didn't know if deadeye would he any different
Oh, you said deadeye now
Well it would probably be worse
spice pecan
Surely KB deadeye can do harvest
harvest mobs get pretty tanky and relatively rippy
finite quail
Elementalist gains way too much value from golems
soft perch
harvest mobs get pretty tanky and relatively rippy
kb also deletes the entire harvest in one click
pulsar dune
They do, but kb deadeye is very good in crowds
spice pecan
if you have gear sure
pulsar dune
You get a lot of overlaps
finite quail
kb also deletes the entire harvest in one click
not league start kb
clear lodge
I just wanna be able to do alc go with like a doubling scarab and altas for harvest I didn't know if kb deadeye would be fine for that or not
spice pecan
i'd still recommend some sort of mine or totem build for harvest on league start
tbh
soft perch
dont think harvest is very hard
finite quail
Hey btw
soft perch
any kind of explosion as well immediately kabooms harvest
spice pecan
people underestimate how rippy harvest mobs can be early on
soft perch
theyre not that bad if u have some ok defences
clear lodge
I just want to be able to find a build that can comfortably do like t14-16 harvests with alc and a doubling scarab to relax and farm currency pretty much
spice pecan
which a deadeye won't have
worldly bridge
beat kitava and my first map in HC :3
soft perch
true
worldly bridge
now its time to try and not play poe until evednt
soft perch
deadeye lule
pulsar dune
beat kitava and my first map in HC :3
Congratulations
clear lodge
But im not really wanting to do any slams or anything like that
finite quail
tainted pact + leech life on being hit flask + 100% chance to be poisoned node from bog shaman + Gluttony belt for self damage when using a movement skill + frostblink of wintry blast
This would be way too clunky right
shadow socket
overcooked
finite quail
Not sure if I'd be able to cast frostblink fast enough for the leeches to survive
spice pecan
flameblast totem hiero is probably decent for league start harvest stuff, or maybe like exsang mines
finite quail
extremely boring leaguestarter
clear lodge
extremely boring leaguestarter
What is?
spice pecan
i league started pizza sticks this league with tati's guide, super free 4 stones
nocturne saddle
somebody said pizza?
split maple
for ranger campaign in phrecia best was wildspeaker wolves + rain of arrows/whatever or smh else? econc/pconc doesnt sit well with me
shadow socket
im eating pizza rn btw
finite quail
Oh wait
nocturne saddle
pog
finite quail
bog shaman self poison node is 5 max poison nvm
soft perch
im eating pizza rn btw
do u have special pizza eating gloves
finite quail
Wouldnt work for tainted pact
shadow socket
im eating it splaff
clear lodge
The exsang mines doesnt really look like my kinda build based on what ive watched and I also kinda want a build/skill that looks cool. I know that sounds dumb but that's how I'll enjoy the game lol. And exsang mines looks eh
finite quail
And golden rule shouldnt really work either since poisons are reflected back so they dont apply to enemies
clear lodge
I dont like the blood effect on the screen
pulsar dune
And golden rule shouldnt really work either since poisons are reflected back so ...
Nah, they apply to both
tawdry olive
finite quail
Nah, they apply to both
Ah okay
Still tho having to cast frostblink of wintry blast to self poison would be aids
clear lodge
What would he something thats tankier i guess or better damage that could comfortably farm alc'd and doubling scarab harvest if kb isn't good enough?
finite quail
But self hits wouldnt work with dissolution either
spice pecan
idk, maybe rolling magma mines
clear lodge
idk, maybe rolling magma mines
Yuck. Rolling magma
spice pecan
it's not as painful on mines
clear lodge
Eh it's just a boring looking skill effect. Might sound dumb but I get a lot of my enjoyment of the game on how my build looks when I use my skill
spice pecan
idk if you don't wanna play slams or mines then it's pretty hard to find a decent harvest build on league start
maybe some minion build
clear lodge
I thought about doing like holy conviction
stray sedge
iirc you can 3L Ice spear / mine / something by end of a1 and have it be decent for no gear
clear lodge
But when I was watching a guide on that, the guy also leveled kb lol
Until he swapped to holy conviction in mid game
shadow socket
where are you planning on leaguestarting btw, like what league
standard, keepers, next league?
silent leaf
clear lodge
where are you planning on leaguestarting btw, like what league
Keepers, getting into this league late
clear lodge
idk if you don't wanna play slams or mines then it's pretty hard to find a decen...
Would something like mamba or toxic rain pathfinder be alright?
spice pecan
not sure if TR is really that playable, but imo mamba isn't super league startable
you really need good pneumatic daggers + the low tolerance clusters
maybe pconc or something idk
split maple
tr is ok to legstart, but kinda hits a wall at some point
but yeah either tr or pconcb until low tolerance clusters and either pneumatics or whispers ammy then mamba swap
finite quail
Ok I managed to balance it out
But thats if recharge is up
Taking a single hit kills it
split maple
there is some super janky setups for mamba with phys+chaos swords though that some folks like for ssf even before clusters, but it feels giga janky to me
heady cliff
What would he something thats tankier i guess or better damage that could comfor...
some kind of less conventional summoner, probably
lucid gale
you can change it from blood to something a bit more.. suspect, with mtx
Surely you mean this 😉 https://youtu.be/1Bs1hyjtaFw
shadow socket
Taking a single hit kills it
not with dissolution
spice pecan
Surely you mean this 😉 https://youtu.be/1Bs1hyjtaFw
i forgot this one even existed lmao
heady cliff
holy relic/herald of agony/animate weapon, but i am not familiar with the builds
clear lodge
tr is ok to legstart, but kinda hits a wall at some point
There's a guy i watch sometimes on YouTube, Path of Evening. He plays toxic rain every league and does really well with it
spice pecan
it's like puck from dota is vomiting on the screen
heady cliff
and their typical budgets
finite quail
not with dissolution
Ohhhh cause you dont get hit anymore with dissolution, it instead reserves your life instead of you being hit
Is that it?
heady cliff
but they should have enough damage for harvest and those summons dont die from a glance iirc
shadow socket
recharge stops when you take damage from a hit
heady cliff
srs too, maybe
shadow socket
disso prevents that, as its reserved instead
finite quail
I see
shadow socket
however recharge can still be stopped if your unreserved life drops below current life
finite quail
So you still take hits, but you dont take damage from them, you reserve them in your lifepool instead
shadow socket
yep
finite quail
however recharge can still be stopped if your unreserved life drops below curren...
So no dots at all can get through then
finite quail
Ah okay
shadow socket
most disso players try to become immune to as many dots as possible
bleeding and poison can be solved on boots
spice pecan
blood shield exists now which is nice for disso builds
clear lodge
If you play slayer like ground slam of earthshaking, what do you transition into once you want to do something with more dps or higher tier content that the ground shaking build cant do?
spice pecan
so you don't want to punch your monitor the second you walk into a map
finite quail
bleed/poison immune on rings, cb immune on jewel, stormshroud with widowhail and crusader avoid shock on quiver
shadow socket
burning ground abberath
finite quail
burning ground abberath
Is burning ground not considered an elemental ailment?
stoic horizon
so you don't want to punch your monitor the second you walk into a map
can i punch my monitor minute into a map instead?
clear lodge
There doesn't seem to be a lot of end game duelist builds out there that do more than the ground shaking builds do
finite quail
Pretty sure being ele ailment immune stops burning ground
spice pecan
you can punch your monitor whenever you want
stoic horizon
finite quail
blood shield exists now which is nice for disso builds
too bad thats based on life regeneration
split maple
Pretty sure being ele ailment immune stops burning ground
still fucks you sadly
finite quail
which sacrifice of blood kills
pulsar dune
it's a lot less bad to be not relic with disso tbh
finite quail
what?
finite quail
ah
pulsar dune
rotp gets fucked by taking a small fraction of life in damage
shadow socket
its funny because it legit gets worse the better your setup
i.e closer to 100% reservation per cast
pulsar dune
also remember you can reserve your life fully and auras will turn off automatically as you take damage.
shadow socket
yeah thats always cool for non-relic disso builds
did that with a prism guardian and crammed in a ton of auras
do you remember what order they disable in?
cant remember if it was time-based or what
whole bluff
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lewd-cat-dumb-gif-7213020066017231983
Idr are you Blazar?
whole bluff
I named a monk Purple_Blazar
whole bluff
Cuz it would spew out darkness
Strongest force known to man, by the biggest black holes known to man = quasar
Aimed at us (but too far away) = blazar
silent leaf
i dont have darkness inside me 
whole bluff
And quasar was taken
silent leaf
oh blazar is actually a fucking thing? 
whole bluff
Supernova are prolly scarier, cuz blazars tend to be in the centre of galaxies, and there are none close enough to the milky way. Plus milky way black hole is weird, maybe not even a black hole cuz too calm, and poles aren't facing us
#AntonPetrov
In b4 andromeda galaxy black hole shoots a hole through the milky way right where the earth is
shadow socket
I love astronomy, but the scale of everything gives me existential dread
split maple
oh nice havoc did the hard work for me already https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/ranger-leveling-build-guide#important-leveling-tips-header
vocal perch
without just telling me "Get a PC" does anyone know of a price checker for Mac? I tried awakened poe but it wont launch... ive bypassed the security for it but it just crashes everytime i launch it
spice pecan
maybe try the macOS channel
i'm not really sure what to do outside of like, bootcamp
whole bluff
I love astronomy, but the scale of everything gives me existential dread
We're a speck of mold under a plank of wood in an alien 5d house. We live until someone in 2000 trillion years wipes our universe away to renovate. It's all good 🙂
We could also be on an agar dish lul
Or we're really the only life ¯_(ツ)_/¯
spice pecan
We're a speck of mold under a plank of wood in an alien 5d house. We live until ...
why did the alien only spend 5 divines on its house?
whole bluff
Cuz poor
shadow socket
theyre new to the game
whole bluff
Brokie aliens
shadow socket
first universe creation
whole bluff
Yeah
spice pecan
that is truly tragic
whole bluff
They can't afford the expensive scarabs cuz too much RNG
wispy comet
wtf i didn't know the harbinger ascendancy turned you into a harbinger
spice pecan
it do
whole bluff
Wait, does it have free MTX? Then that's a huge plus
worldly bridge
Chat how do i level a wander shadow
Do i just go surfcasfer kb
Reroll into whatever i want
worldly bridge
Dont you need to respecc the first two points
wispy comet
yes but it's still pretty cheap that early
worldly bridge
Kk just askint to be sure
Ill just wing the passive tree ig, should be fine… she says
Who needs practice anyway
worldly bridge
What do i ise for single target
stoic horizon
something that hits preferably
worldly bridge
Huh, dont wander skills suck for single
spice pecan
yes
worldly bridge
I dont wanna just he using kb all campaign right
spice pecan
but with level 15 envy aura you will obliterate campaign
wispy comet
it's so much damage
spice pecan
altho if you go surfcaster by second lab then idk
shadow socket
i mean can also swap 3rd lab
envy starts falling off then
and by falling off I mean not deleting everything
worldly bridge
3rd lab swap to return proj clueless
stoic horizon
wildspeaker iirc
split maple
what was the flicker ascendency for phrecia
Wildspeaker
worldly bridge
“GGG is bringing back phrecia, can i fit every shadow ascendancy in one run?”
grizzled lily
ill make a pob today
stoic horizon
you get temu farrul's
grizzled lily
i wanna try flicker
wispy comet
i'm thinking daughter of oshabi with the vines and magi nodes and aul bloodline with empty gear and wrath nodes. ball lightning to stack vines and poisons quickly and only have gems in staff and gloves
split maple
Free farul fur for second lab
spice pecan
what was the flicker ascendency for phrecia
wildspeaker, you get free aspect of the cat
split maple
And wolves to carry campaign
worldly bridge
What’s with wolves being op levelling
worldly bridge
Sob
split maple
ill make a pob today
Check magefist
grizzled lily
i did
split maple
Wolves are like 100 flat
shadow socket
they do an inordinate amount of damage early on
grizzled lily
on the way to work
spice pecan
i did envywolves in 3.25 with the weapon enchants, it was pretty good
shadow socket
and the flat they give you is crazy
stoic horizon
just do a wolf + tiger build now
shadow socket
they give flat phys to the char per wolf
split maple
I think I am doing wildspeaker la or smh until early maps then at some point respec to kboc whisperer
stoic horizon
and they benefit from claw crit mods
stoic horizon
dont try to make an endgame build with em tho
split maple
Like once you drop indigon kboc should be ekstremely free for all content except rogues and shit
opal ingot
oh that'd be fun
worldly bridge
My end goal for first char is fusillade prophet
split maple
Prayge no big idol changes + that settlers idol are actually op for tattoos
stoic horizon
poison fusillade beacon of madness scavenger 
split maple
My keepers chars need some stuff
worldly bridge
Lol
stoic horizon
wait scavenger can do light radius stack 
grizzled lily
not that big of a deal
opal ingot
Prayge no big idol changes + that settlers idol are actually op for tattoos
printing svalinn
past mantle
Where those patch notes?
opal ingot
5 hours before release
stoic horizon
2
opal ingot
but yeah im dying for some patch notes
spice pecan
go ivory tower and use es mastery for light radius
but light radius stacking bad anyway
finite quail
Ok finishing my bog shaman poison spark theorycraft pob
spice pecan
yeah, no coruscating needed
finite quail
spice pecan
Ok finishing my bog shaman poison spark theorycraft pob
are we spending 5 digits of life per cast now
stoic horizon
finite quail
are we spending 5 digits of life per cast now
Thankfully not
I have 18k life recharge
split maple
printing svalinn
Idk how much idols can improve that - it feels like verisium is currently caped to 1 per map and crater can only replace verisiums
So maybe 2x easier but no more?
finite quail
I lied, 16k
finite quail
how many mirrors of gear is this
zero
split maple
While stuff like harvest, heist, ritual etc is like 10-20x stronger with idols
finite quail
Its probably under 100 divs
finite quail
Thats uber dps btw
finite quail
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Gimme a sec to get the link