2┃build-planning

[exotic compass]

All of that should be a pretty significant difference in energy generation... You could even pick up energy generation on those new jewels since some would consider it a dead mod and therefore less valued

[static basin]

thanks for your responses, I will try those tips, it has been not going well 🙂

[static basin]

what top 3 priority stats should i aim for on jewels my bro?

[spiral zinc]

If I want to try plant Druid and bear Druid which ascendancy is better to use?

[static basin]

I started as shaman because its straight forward but oracle has some nice perks, both are useful honestly

[spiral zinc]

That’s why I can’t figure out which one to use

[woven depot]

for plants id just go oracle

no competition really

[spiral zinc]

Yeah if I just wanted to do plants that’s what I’d do, but I’m notice most build go oracle for plants and shaman for bear but I’m not sure which one would be better to try out both later as idk which one I’ll stick with better

[static basin]

you can do oracle and still do bear if you wanted to try it, it works well for all

[spiral zinc]

Seems that’s what I’ll do then. Thank you

[static basin]

yea and its relatively ez to switch later if you wanted to

[exotic compass]

Hard agree ^

Shaman seemed good for just playing ele builds and then we actually realized what oracle can do... I'm eager to make my first one and use those wifi keystone circles

[exotic compass]

You want stuff that scales everything, not just something ideally. Cold damage and triggered damage should be considered dead

Spell damage, crit chance, crit damage should be considered wins

Es = win

IF you have no % mana on kill, then one roll somewhere is a win (ideally not heart)

[static basin]

ok so avoid lightning damage specifically, in favor of spell damage?

[exotic compass]

Right

[static basin]

same with passive nodes?

[exotic compass]

Always

[static basin]

kk

[exotic compass]

Unless it's like 100% cold vs 10% spell damage... Then you start having trouble.

But nodes like that don't really exist, I'd be happy to be corrected

[static basin]

I greatly appreciate your help. I've managed to save up 150 divines with my crafting sales. Do you think I'm going with a good build that I can spend these on or would you recommend a pivot as an Oracle at this late game farming stage?

[exotic compass]

If you're enjoying it, keep working on it

Spark CoC comet is flavor of the month for sure, but the most common martial weapon builds are physical quarterstaff whirling assault, both cold and poison bow skills (lightning still fine ppl just like to see a nerf and then call it trash), decent variety of crossbow options but mostly lightning, and then for mace you have shield wall (which is shield, not mace). Spears I think lack in comparison to the others and could be due for a buff, but still viable builds like LS + Lance, or the unique atziri spear.

I think that's a decent little summary of what people are playing but with 150 div even considering inflation you can clear hard content on anything that sounds remotely fun

[static basin]

yea I don't want to completely reroll I've done that so much, so I'm hoping spark coc works out for me

[exotic compass]

normally I advise against sorting by DPS on Poeninja but if you click Oracle, then comet, then DPS sort, you can see what some of them run

I checked the first 5 and NONE had rare sapphires haha, that type of thing

[static basin]

ok I'll check them out that way and try to copy more, I was yolo'ing and its not working, I don't know the mechanics well enough

[exotic compass]

Well again I think it can be bait to see what they do and copy willy nilly

Some things only work once you've solved a problem elsewhere

I just saw your spark supports, we can work on thise

And you'll feel it

[static basin]

yea I've been swapping a lot of supports trying different things

I used POB and sorted by + DPS for jewels and tried to pick the top ones but I suspect that is not the best strat

[exotic compass]

Dont take this the wrong way cuz it will feel GREAT after we get it sorted, and the supports have some merit, but I'm pretty sure all 5 of your supports should come off 😅

Technically you have proj Accel 2 instead of 3 so that's a half point for ya

[static basin]

lol I'm happy to swap crap out, not offended 🙂

[past wind]

Is there anyway to take certain percentage of fire damage taken as chaos damage?

[exotic compass]

Pierce 3
Proj Accel 3
Zenith 2
Rapid casting
Efficiency

Start there

And the first two that you'd swap would be rapid or efficiency, zenith 2 says you need to stay above 90% mana but gives you some cost efficiency to help... Still, if you can't stay above the threshold just keep efficiency and stop using zenith for now, but keep it in mind it's very strong

[static basin]

I keep full mana with mana remnants

ok I put Zenith 2, efficiency 2, rapid casting 2, projectile acceleration 3, pierce 3

[exotic compass]

Nice, you could even go considered casting instead of efficiency then

Niceuuuu

Run one and lmk

[static basin]

ok ill use considered casting

do i need to change lightning bolt?

i put blind 2 on lightning bolt and blindside on COC

lightning bolt im using deliberation, concentrated area, blind 2, commiserate

coc comet, living bomb, energy retention (ty), blindside, and boundless energy 2

[muted birch]

Do you have a guide link for one of thes builds?

[exotic compass]

You'd have to be more specific but no, I just use a mix of lurking on here (church of X), seeing what friends do, seeing what streamers do (especially less popular ones), and of course good ol poeninja

[exotic compass]

I was gonna say put overcharge on thunderstorm since you took it off spark and I'd check your other links, gimme a bit I'm doing some irl stuff too!

[static basin]

no worries, tyvm

[muted birch]

Just any cheaper spark comet stormweaver. Looks pretty fun. Everyone ive seen has been just orb and spark. Just any Build guide wpuld suffiice so I can bas emine from it

Even chronomancer idc.

[exotic compass]

Check out operator otter on YouTube, hes the only one I know by name that id be comfortable letting someone follow

Recently I asked him to test one of his interactions and he came out with an entire new video around it, helping me learn in the process (the discussion was around Rakiatas flow and how it interacts with the node Heavy Frost)

[muted birch]

He does the Comet thing? Im currently just following some guide buy BigDaddy atm till i fully qrap my head arounf these interactions.

[static basin]

the run went smoother but i think i need + spirit to utilize blink and siphon elements, maybe + mana wouldn't hurt, or I get rid of mind over matter... my boss fights take too long, I want to kill stuff in under 10 seconds and get faster at finishing off bosses. my map clear is fine

[exotic compass]

Who the fk is Big Daddy 😂

But yes spark + comet should be something you can cross reference different build makers for. I'll say this much, the one thing you need to solve over EVERYTHING else is how you actually spend resources for your spells

[static basin]

lol

[exotic compass]

I'll have to check but are you using any of the big 4 spell buffers?

Ele weakness

[muted birch]

I'll say this much, the one thing you need to solve over EVERYTHING else is how you actually spend resources for your spells

Meaning?

[exotic compass]

Frost bomb

Sigil of power

Mana tempest

[static basin]

all of the above except frost bomb

[exotic compass]

Meaning you will spend mana on a spell and then 5 other fucking spells proc haha, you have to be able to sustain it somehow

[muted birch]

Ahh. Ill habe to have a look later.

Ty. I may poke you later with questions lol

[exotic compass]

Shanochi in the SW chat has taken EVERY mana cost efficiency node he can

Bloodmages simply use blood magic or life tap everywhere and LEECH all the spell damage back as life

Non-bms can buy a covenant chest which allows for spell damage leech, in which case they too would put lifetap everywhere

[pastel forge]

does instant leech ie. vaal pact bypass the "leech stops at full life" when doing soul tether for es leech?

[exotic compass]

A properly set up frost bomb should be exposing for damn near as much as elemental weakness, and they work together to bring mobs below 0

[static basin]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/170e7 after changes

I'll swap detonate dead for frost bomb

[exotic compass]

lightning bolt: delib, conc area, cooldown recovery, lightning mastery

Spell cascade works too, I'm hesitant to recommend it WITH conc area due to the possibility of tiny little circles that DONT overlap if that makes sense

Likewise you could spell cascade and I'd be hesitant to recommend conc area, it's either personal choice or something to pay attention to and decide yourself

Thunderstorm: overcharge (make this your only skill with overcharge), shock conduction 2 (only way storm can shock), then some options for the last few supports

Commiserate has never fkin worked for me so I just leave it off, theoretically it should be ripping the shock off of you and making it bigger on the enemy, but I swear I have the most trouble with it in the past

[static basin]

ok thats fair

[exotic compass]

Static shock and coursing current can be used to cheese out some more proc damage, or just go magnified area + prolonged duration to ensure bosses stay in it

[muted birch]

The threads full😭 I have nowhere to ask 🤣

[exotic compass]

Since storm has a built-in limit of 1, zaroks refrain is a dead skill

[exotic compass]

I legit might ask a mod what they think of trimming those chats, surely people joined and haven't chatted or been on the server since joining

[muted birch]

Thats where i was trying to ask but its full

[exotic compass]

Operatorotter, raxx, goldfarmingguide, anime princess

I have not examined all in detail but again would be comfortable telling a friend to follow a mix of those 4. They cannot be that different and any differences should signify which to follow.

Sometimes it's +3 spell amulet vs choir of the storms, sometimes it's staff vs wand/focus/Sceptre, sometimes it's cursing and exposing vs rakiatas flow

[muted birch]

Im only in act 3 so im not far in

[exotic compass]

Mobalytics should have a leveling ele caster guide somewhere

[exotic compass]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/animeprincess-stormweaver-sorc-league-starter

[muted birch]

What im doing now seems to work boss damage just kinda sucks for me.

[exotic compass]

Bossing is piano fingers for ele caster unless your gear is disgusting

It's basically get your 3 cold infusions for spark, curse the boss, expose the boss, sigil around yourself, pop mana tempest, and let er rip

[muted birch]

Mean spark here?

[static basin]

thanks clan you're a boss, those tips did help my boss kill speed and everything feels better. I will keep digging for more improvements to be made

[exotic compass]

I like spark with frost bomb short fuse, orb of storms or arc for supplemental damage

[muted birch]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/arkh0qy2 This is what ive got atm got just enough time to make a POB link before i have to go lol.

[rapid moat]

hello i was plaining to build into hollow palm and was wondering what it scales with

[spiral zinc]

My buddy is playing a poison bow huntress and it seems like most builds have charges or something(rage) to buff damage but we don’t see anything for poison bow. Is there something I’m missing?

[spiral zinc]

What do you mean by scales with?

[exotic compass]

Level up = gem levels go up

+Level of melee skills (+2 gloves, +3 amulet)

Evasion and es across your 4 pieces of armour

"Adds x to y damage to attacks" on gloves and rings

[rapid moat]

like to build around it

[spiral zinc]

Does clan’s advice answer the question?

[rapid moat]

yes i was just answering you

[spiral zinc]

Just making sure 👍🏼

[celest oxide]

Are there any alternatives to Storm Lance for single target on Spears?

I'm clearing great with Lightning Spear Deadeye

want some goals for single target

[sage tulip]

if I remember correctly it goes weapon, skill, then conversion, then tree bonuses right for the order ?

[exotic compass]

Generally, yuhhh

[sage tulip]

ok thanks

[exotic compass]

From the patch notes just announced, not sure when it goes live:

"The character sheet now displays how much item armour, evasion and/or energy shield you have."

This means you'll be able to see the ES and Evasion you have BEFORE any increases... This is very important to remember since only those base values are used for hollow palm.

If you happen to be an invoker working towards the "gain spirit from the ES and Evasion on your body armour" it works the same way, doesn't care about increases just the base value 🙂

[rapid moat]

i'm not sure i understand

[arctic osprey]

On a staff, would +1 to all spell levels rune be be stronger than Greater Iron Rune with the 30% increased damage?

[brittle anvil]

99% of the time it's way stronger

[muted birch]

@exotic compass what do you think of this?

[arctic osprey]

I'm guessing the only time it's not is if the cost of mana ends up being prohibitive?

[brittle anvil]

the only time is when you have barely any % increased damage

[exotic compass]

No worries, it was a lot to dump on ya lol. Just read the Hollow Palm keystone sometime and you'll hopefully go "ohhh that's what they meant" 😅

[exotic compass]

Heightened curse in elemental weakness and find a staff for sigil of power. you spend mana to gain damage in 4 stages

[muted birch]

Would that increase my dmg or is there anything else i need to do?

[timber talon]

Why my dps is lower without helmet with crit chance than with it

this game doesnt make any sense ;-;

[sage tulip]

Hey @exotic compass I was wondering what your thoughts would be on a CI bear druid that does Fire and Ice damage ?

[exotic compass]

Highly recommend the mobalytics I linked earlier, anime princess

Check under STAFF STAT PRIO and AMULET STAT PRIO and youll see good info on what to look for

Yes, these things will increase your damage substantially I don't want to info bomb you but the rough calculation is as follows:

Base damage (level of spells) x increased damage (spell damage or lightning damage) x crit (chance and damage combined) x increased damage TAKEN by monsters (shocking the monster) x more multipliers (support gems, sigil of power) x enemy resistances (if mob has positive resistances then this is bad, if the mob has negative resistances this is good)

[brittle anvil]

you have damage on full life?

[timber talon]

no

anyway decided to sell everything gives mirrors to friends and done with league did pretty much everything and temple is no fun at all to me also the big inflation sucks

waiting room to 0.5 it is

[exotic compass]

most elemental builds can find "attack damage" instead of "cold damage" this is the backbone of not trolling your build

You would not want to invest a ton into fire and cold individually, you want to scale both at the same time

As for ci, that's usually a tree position issue but even south side of the tree ppl can go ci

[timber talon]

hopefuly blood mage get nerfed with that comet bs and other type of defensive will be viable since for now I only see CI full ES beeing reliable to survive atleast something

[sage tulip]

well I plan on using a jewel to get myself CI I also plan on getting mostly spell damage increase and the fire and ice damage increase based on rage. my only issue is that I can't seem to find a way to convert physical damage to just elemental damage it is either fire or ice and trying to figure out a way to increase that

would be nice if there was a way to cause chill why still keeping my fire damage and ignite chance as well so I can freeze targest based off my fire damage

[exotic compass]

Yeah people definitely aren't immortal on thorns or blood boil ritualist... Any svallin build should feel good

[timber talon]

Beeing immortal is one thing dying in 0,2s is the other xd

82% evasion 56% for deflect and 3k es I felt like paper after trying that over CI with 9,5k es

[sage tulip]

wait where does weapon bonus damage and conversions come into play ? like for example fury of the bear king (talisman) would that come before or after painters gloves ?

[exotic compass]

You would do 20 phys, then 80/3 fire, 80/3 cold, and 80/3 lightning

[sage tulip]

ok that could work would be nice if there was something that would convert 50% of fire damage to cold damage but I don't think there is

I know about the 100% thing

[exotic compass]

So this is from some random YouTuber playing from beach to endgame and they uploaded it as one hour-long video, they wanted to make use of bhatairs vengeance

[sage tulip]

ahh right I forgot about that Ill watch that video

[exotic compass]

https://youtu.be/aeT9rsQZ4dM?si=kfxAKatfHggOStb8

If curious

[fast wind]

Has anyone used blackflame?

[sage tulip]

hmm so he puts it on the molten crash I would have put it on walking calamity or rampage

[exotic compass]

Definitely not something set in the meta so yeah, some tinkering could probably lead to improvements

[hybrid ocean]

Hey, couldn't you use the ritualistic charm notable + the same corrupted shackles of the wretched that reverse chill builds use + beira's anguish to make a fully automatic autobomber of some kind?

Maybe not the most efficient thing, but it would be fully automatic

[vernal estuary]

Somebody has a good blood mage coc build guide?

[austere berry]

is there builds that use skeleton warriors at end game?

[tranquil steeple]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/CrocaDogg-2263/character/WHIRLYPEARLY any advice on mapping improvements? I oneshot every boss with gathering storm frost wall but whirling assault can feel a bit bad to map with, especially compared to mapping with iceshot or poisonburst arrow, wondering if there is something better.

[quartz cairn]

I use a bunch of different skeletons on my Varashta, including 2 skeleton warriors from rattling scepter. Basicaly 2 cleric, 2 warriors, 1 of a few others, 3 of preferred spectre.

It's a fun build- but a LOT of buttons, and the damage and speed are so-so at low-mid investment. But upside is It's extremely tanky.

[austere berry]

interesting

[hushed nacelle]

are the djins good for a league starter?

[serene shore]

Yes

[timid cloud]

https://youtu.be/6V_u8AZe74E?si=keXaInjOM6qCRpS3

please support thanks you guys 🤞🏻

[static basin]

pretty nutty with 9k es too sheesh

[exotic compass]

A wand with +1 to spell skills (physical or chaos ideally), ~30-50% spell damage, and your passive tree shold take you to first ascend. Then you can respec a teeny bit and go full minions from there on

My favorite thing to do on leaguestart now is +phys spell wand and a +minions sceptre... Unearth goes hard and you can use bonestorm/bone cage as needed to help with bossing until your first ascension

[undone totem]

looking to buy a unique gold charm which spirit would be best for pathfinder

[olive compass]

Is pre-mitigation damaged affected by support gems?

[fringe kelp]

does eye of winter gain 100% of damage as cold when passing over chilled ground? What about frost bomb?

cause frost bomb is technically an orb skill

[vivid dagger]

hi im playing ice shot ritualist, i feel like my clearing is excelent but my single damage is ASSSSS, any idea how to fix this or where to path?

[fringe kelp]

do you have any free skill slots?

another good option is usually respeccing 5-10 nodes in passive tree, if clear is that good, it's usually fine to find a set of nodes that'll boost single target (maybe at the cost of generally good stuff like AOE or w/e)

[vivid dagger]

i actually tried with snipe and ice tipped arrows, but none of those seem to work well, or at least i'm not making it work properly

with snipe my main problem is the freeze buildup, it's way too slow and i have to repeat it like 3 or 4 times to kill a t15 boss

[woven zinc]

playing poison pathfinder and holy SMOKES I need help figuring out mana usage =[

[undone totem]

2% mana on kill gem / The Unique mana flask / and then if your running hand of chalula or running pounce with siphoning 2 on it

[daring glacier]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Fraedos-3506/character/DoYouWannaPetMe

So what do I even upgrade anymore

[static dawn]

Is there a calculator for Heroic Tragedy rolls?

[halcyon hazel]

Guys, is it possible to make a build DoT Ignite ? With the "Radiant Grief helmet ?

And at least Ignite can Crit ? And Ignite is considered as Elemental damage ?

[normal echo]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/DrinkingKoolaid-1895/SecretBloodMage?i=2&search=name%3DSecr%26sort%3Ddps

Pls need help on what I can change around for more dps on comet. Ty

[fast wind]

how do people get their builds past the 100k dps threshhold

like im lost

[brittle anvil]

mostly better gears

but "dps" depends on the skill, a skill which have 30k tooltip dps can do a few hundred thousands dps on the boss

[pastel forge]

Some skills have terrible tooltip dps

Also some builds have different 'idle' and active DPS due to passive skills that only activate after you crit and inflict ailments

[fast wind]

i get that but i'm watching my brother plpay wyvern and swing two times to get 1mil on rend

and i'm here trying to just get above 50k on shred

[magic karma]

Uhhhh… would this augment setup be better or 3x greater iron rune or 2x greater iron rune 1x thane leld’s rune of spring (adds 1 to 60 lightning damage) be better on a plaguefinger setup?

I would buy a better bow but my divs are very limited

[vernal estuary]

Why my curse not explode immediately? https://pobb.in/1RAC1ej-wdzn

[languid kindle]

Guys so I’m farming maps currently on my pb pathfinder and i followed a build guide for it I want to start and make my second character now and I want to actually plan out this one an make the build myself since i haven’t don’t it ever would love if someone can help and give me a bit of directions I want to try a lich summoner mostly skeletons and specter I think or as many as viable (don’t want raging spirit) and would love to cast auras or something on my lich to buff my minions
My first ask would be is there specific summons or ways I should utilize and do the skill gems and in terms of passive tree i should focus mainly on taking minion damage and health life and es

[delicate canyon]

https://pobb.in/32ZM0qFj1t62 for some reason im not getting charges and idk y. https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/ae7df8b6-263f-4122-8efd-8b4c40add79a/builds/ac8b6035-252e-4f68-9400-eaa8515fd082?weaponSet=set2&ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C1 this is the mobalytic for my build
i consume the infusion but dont get any charges from it

im suppose to be able to have max 3 all charges while mapping too, but i have 0

[novel estuary]

Does anyone know how pob deals with weapon sets when looking at stuff like effective hp? Like how to I make it “switch” to use one or the other weapon. I tried by changing the skill but that doesn’t seem to be it

[north heart]

what's warriors best build now?

[toxic beacon]

I don’t know about best, but whirling assault Titan seems to be very popular

[north heart]

I saw sunder but didn't know how good that actually was

[sullen yew]

Does rapid attacks 2 not work,

[silver anvil]

Generalist-ish question: Planning out a Wyvern build right now and there's so many things that say increased phys/ele, or phys as extra ele; those kind of things
I understand they don't scale well with Wyvern as a large portion of the damage is half converted, right? So it has many damage types both from skill and tree. Is there some way people scale it well, or they just take all these only half applicable nodes? (or not take them at all and just live with low damage% on tree?)

[clever vine]

Guys, how much crit chance and crid bonus should a bow build have to be considered playable? Just to know so i can work on my build

[uncut bay]

30% crit chance with the crit rerolling support maybe? and 300% crit damage

[vale mesa]

please i need help. there's a rune im looking for. it gives 10% spirit and 30% minion command damage

[clever vine]

Im actually at 40% and 450 bonus so it should be ok but i dont feel the "power"... what gem you talking about?

[lime narwhal]

looking at getting a rite of passage charm, cats off the table as it costs a mirror. what other spirits are worth getting? poedb not showing the effects

[toxic beacon]

Stag and wolf also give movement and skill speed

[lime narwhal]

i see wolf is 600 div or so which is affordable for me. ty

[toxic beacon]

https://poe2db.tw/Azmeri_Spirit#Torment full list btw

[lime narwhal]

ty

stag looks juicy too. maybe i just save a bit more

[toxic beacon]

The stag is absolutely amazing

Good for every build in the game, unlike the other 2

[lime narwhal]

im on oracle so cat would be so good but ja, 1 mirror. stag is definitely the next best

[toxic beacon]

I played a bunch of builds this league so it was nice to be able to fully utilize stag on all of them

[lime narwhal]

owl also looks crazy for pure damage

[toxic beacon]

Its great too. Movement speed is just too good to pass up imo.

[lime narwhal]

might just yoink that one as im really solid on defences tbh. dropped like 1000 div on some high end upgrades today so just needa grind a bit for that

the movement speed is really good though, i'll get owl and save up the difference and then sell when ready to upgrade to stag

[muted birch]

@exotic compass I seem to have figured something out 🤣.Im cooking campaign bosses now Sigil of power was huge.

Im not actaully using that guide atm tho i plan to wait until I cant figure something out or I start dying to swap. Im poor on gold and dont know if i can afford another passive respec lol.

Is there a way to keep cold infusion up more?

[exotic compass]

Frost bomb - short fuse 2 - overabundance - spell echo

There is +1 limit on tree near-ish Sorc start , at that point you can do cascade instead of echo

And sw gets extra limit but its gated behind 2nd ascend

For simple white and magic mobs in campaign I found alternating between orb of storms and spark to be good

Soon as a rare comes along you frost bomb

[muted birch]

I have all my ascendancies.

I use orb and spark for just clearing but the dmg with cold infusion is crazy.

[exotic compass]

Yup, pure lighting for trash is fine (can even pump lighting infusions into arc and run unleash on arc, tap it only when you have 3 lighting infusions)

Main issue becomes # of fingers haha

And cast speed

And keeping them all leveled up 🤦‍♂️

[gaunt canopy]

Hi, Was looking for some help on crafting a spear like this

[muted birch]

Although im on pc I play on controller ao liks you said number of fingers/binds is rough.

[exotic compass]

Mana tempest, frost bomb, ele weakness, sigil of power

Spark

If you manage your mana tempest.so that you don't suck yourself to 0 all the time, this can be very deadly setup for spark

[celest oxide]

Spirit or Rarity Implicit on Amulet for Varashta Djinns?

[muted birch]

I meant integrating arc into it all lol

[fervent ember]

Does The Vortex' "no attribute requirements" also count for skill gems? Because I can't equip one for having not enough dex.

[hushed nacelle]

What's the easy league starter this season? I don't want to have to press thirteen buttons to play it though .

[zenith sierra]

You need to equip it into an empty slot, not swap a current gem. It’s buggy

[lavish ivy]

Plant Druid is quite literally 1 or 2 button build tbh

I made a Warrior and a Ranger.

The warrior I have no idea how to build him, the ranger it's between Poison or Ice.

Halp

[late laurel]

Plants, Wyvern/Bear (Wolf has a lot of buttons), honestly been having a breezy time with Twister Oracle

[slow lagoon]

burning elephant build is easy🙂

[dense gate]

why do I see so many skills running elemental armament? surely there are other damage increase support gems that doesn't only increase the elemental part.

[late laurel]

I mean EA has no qualifiers on its increase (besides III)

[zenith sierra]

Most supports are more conditional than ele armament, and ele damage usually is a large portion of your damage for most skills

[uncut bay]

essence drain lich

[urban totem]

My new bear build is so bad I can’t even make it through the trials of sehkma

[fast wind]

So i have a question how do you get zealots oath to regen ES faster

say from Life leech

[serene shore]

Zealots oath won't heal from leech or recoup. Only from regeneration. If you want to heal ES with leech you need the leech belt

[fast wind]

wait seriously?

so this whole time I thought zealots was good

[edgy marten]

what is a tanky build to transition to . i have a lvl 89 sunder titan, 30 div and an headhunter. thinking of either doing smith bear or shield wall

[inland night]

Hey everyone, silly question: do you mainly get resistances through gear? Playing my own build at the moment and not seeing a lot of personal resistances in the passive tree

[serene shore]

Yes

[inland night]

Ok cool

[rough rivet]

hello i am trying to get stormweaver spark meteor coc to work and i bought a bunch of gear yet it only says 50% crit on spark but even with that it takes forever to hit one proc and i have no idea what is wrong?

[dusky wadi]

Is cold storm weaver still good? I’ve never really done a cold build before

[rough rivet]

it feels like coc is not proccing off aoe targets or smth i dont get it

[muted birch]

Im not aure about on Sorc as this is my first tim playing it. So idk how hard crit is to get but when inplayed other classes I really only noticed a large increase in crits around 70-80%

[rough rivet]

well the issue is it works perfectly fine on bosses but it feels like im not proccing at all on packs which is really odd

[muted birch]

No idea then lol

[uncut bay]

for CoC you need to increase the overall damage of spark on top of crit chance

[uncut bay]

so stormweaver is fine, it has useful passives, witch ascendancies are much better of course, comet is broken, ice nova and frost nova are strong clearing spells, but nowhere near the strength level of spark imo

you can still do all solo content with them of course, I love both spells, just the way they look and feel

[dusky wadi]

ive just made too many witches and no sorcererss lol so imma do sorceress

[halcyon hazel]

Can we upgrade the range of "Called Shot" from Deadeye ?

[timid cloud]

Hey guys. Please check out my blood mage spark coc budget variant build guide. Thanks

[celest oxide]

That would be nice

[timid cloud]

https://youtu.be/6V_u8AZe74E?si=8KqJ2qFyHH1XKHdH

i also did live price checking(please check the timestamps). Also read the pinned comment 🙏🏻

[timid cloud]

hey budd checkout my build guide im pretty sure you can fix your problem. You just need to change your asendency tho.
So the more damage you do the more comet proc you will get from CoC. You need at least 75% crit chance for the proc to be consistent. The dps on spark should be 35k minimum. With bloodmage asendency you will have much easier time to fix this issue because spell cirt chance is 15% already.

[brittle anvil]

why are you using that gloves

[timid cloud]

the maligo?

[brittle anvil]

yeah, getting 400% or more crit bonus shouldn't be that hard

[timid cloud]

It was for me. Whatever i did i was not able to scale my damage higher than what it is now with maligo

you should invest so many points in crit bonus nodes and you can't reach 250%, if you use overextend support gem you can tho, but then you will have stun problem.

if you go oracle yea it's doable but with bloodmage the way to go is maligo. You can invest all other points into lots of other useful things(spell damage, cast speed, defence and % chance to fire more projectiles )

[brittle anvil]

@timid cloud I fiddled with your pob a bit at this point using the gloves would be 30% less damage

[timid cloud]

but without that gloves my dps goes down alot. What do you suggest to use instead of that gloves? Atziri?

[brittle anvil]

https://pobb.in/V-rNUR73El4K I replaced a ring with seed of cataclysm, and use a rare gloves for es and resistances, actually idk if you need atziri for instant leech? But could use a hearth of the well for % instant. I replaced jewels with crit bonus and % ES also

[timid cloud]

oh nice let me go and check it out

no i don't need atziri gloves im already so tanky i haven't died for a while even in t16 maps with -% to all res, extra damage and bonus shit

[serene shore]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/SeaKnightofEa-3161/character/TillyanThree Anyone intersted in checking out my Oracle WW character and seeing what I can improve on? I still need to do my 4th ascension, and look into a heart of well or something, but I was curious if there were other tweaks.

[fair topaz]

Has the rending staff been added yet?

[languid kindle]

So I’m planning today to make a new character and try to craft my own build I will be going shamen bear rampage with walking calamity in terms of passive tree are there any notable i should consider pathing towards

[torn mango]

Does Hyrri's Ire double dip with Amazon ascendancy - Stalking Panther?

[torn tulip]

Do we think I can use this for the rest of the game

[brittle anvil]

nope

[torn tulip]

Aw man

[mellow coral]

I feel like the biggest thing you can do for your build rn is probably get that 4th asc. In terms of gear, I'd recommend trying out the sine aequo gloves, makes freeze feel way better when juicing maps or against ubers

This is what I'm running for my WW build: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Patrick_Not_Star-4448/character/Vaal_Druid_Rerun

[toxic beacon]

Low level gear can't roll high level modifiers, your real endgame items don't start dropping until you reach maps. For example high level quarterstaffs can very easily hit like 5x this physical damage roll, not to even mention all the other great rolls like +7 levels.

[limpid talon]

Is there any skill that shoots kinda purple lightning with red streaks in front of you? 🤔

I saw a build on Reddit and I'm trying to figure out what it is since the op didn't provide a build 😅

From the icons I see they have ember fussilade, solar bomb, ice nova, frost bomb, cast on crit and ailment 🤔 it also leaves like a ring of vertical lightning?

It was a witch but I couldn't tell the ascendancy, I'm new 😅

[mellow coral]

Any chance you could send a link?

[torn tulip]

Oh

[limpid talon]

Oh I wasn't sure if link sharing is allowed or not here, I'll get it

[limpid talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/YNZoVlY4xU

This is the build

[mellow coral]

The vertical lightning is lightning infusions

That's also what makes the ember fusillade have that lightning effect

[limpid talon]

And I guess ascendancy is infernalist since they're floating at times 🤔

[mellow coral]

Looks like it

I'm gonna scrub through poe ninja later for infernalist with this gear and try to find the build lol

[limpid talon]

Ooooh that's lightning infused ember fussilade? That makes so much sense now when you point it out 🤣 I was checking all spell animations to find the lightning spell but yeah now I see it 🤣

[limpid talon]

Let me know if you find it, it looks fun 🤣 and I don't think I saw this combo before

[mellow coral]

Will do

[limpid talon]

Not sure what all of these icons are though. I know cast on crit and ailment and I see ember fussilade casts

[mellow coral]

The blue circle one is lightning infusion

The one to it's left I'm not sure

I see life remnants

So maybe this is a blood mage and not infernalist?

[fallow nymph]

Is there a way to have the powered Zealot lightnings of my spectres not fill my whole screen?

[limpid talon]

Ah, I thought infernalist because they're floating. It was a quick google, I was trying to see which ascendancy can float

[mellow coral]

You can float with an armor set also

Not just from skills

[limpid talon]

Ah do you remember what it's called? 😅

[mellow coral]

The armor set?

[limpid talon]

Yeah that one that makes you float. Or did you mean cosmetic?

For the items that they did use, I see vertex, headhunter and I guess atzirirs aquity for instant life regen since they probably have blood magic node 🤔

[brittle anvil]

I don't think you can buy them anymore

[mellow coral]

Theres a few, idk if any are purchasable rn, I only got one and it's the echos of the maven set, which was a season pass reward

[limpid talon]

Oh I didn't want to buy them, I was just trying to figure out the build. I thought floating indicated infernalist ascendancy, but as they said they saw life remnants it could be blood mage ascendancy and the floating could be from cosmetic

[mellow coral]

I searched through poe ninja a bit

Couldn't find it

Potentially privated profile

[limpid talon]

Yeah could be, their Reddit profile has lots of different builds but no links to builds anywhere 😅

[mellow coral]

Damn

[limpid talon]

Atleast we know a few things 🤣 guess we have to come up with the build ourselves 🥲

So cast on crit and cast on ailment will use 200 spirit but they're using 208 spirit 🤔 what an odd number

[mellow coral]

Probably uses more then 208 spirit, just has spirit reservation increased

If you use diallas, or have 22-23% quality on coc and coa you'll get numbers like that

[limpid talon]

Ah gotcha 🤔

[limpid talon]

Do you know what the two icons to the right of coc and coa are?

[mellow coral]

The one to the right I'm pretty sure is the buff from the "time of need" skill gem

And the purple one is the debuff that prevents pausing using the menu

You have that when fighting ubers

[limpid talon]

Ah didn't know that

[limpid talon]

I'll check that out!

Yep, the icon is time of need! But that needs 30 spirit 🤔 you'd need 230 including coc and coa but they have less spirit than that

[fervent ember]

Tried an empty slot. Didn't work for me.

Shows 75 dex as requirement in red and doesn't let me put it in the slot

[mellow coral]

Coc at 20% quality is 90 spirit, same thing for coa

So coc + coa + time of need is 210

[limpid talon]

Ah reduced spirit! My bad, I thought it costs more spirit for higher quality 😅

[limpid talon]

They are using 208 so time of need has reduced spirit cost too I guess?

[mellow coral]

23% quality on coc anc coa gives 11% reservation efficiency

That's why

[nimble acorn]

So I'm working at this build, already lvl 89, it's going really well, but I don't understand how rage is important for me, I never see it pop upp in the upper left corner of the screen, so is it even useful ? He takes some nodes that max out rage and even has a rage jewel there... Just wondering if I should invest in something else if it's not even proccing https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/jorgen/builds/blood-for-the-blood-god-bleeding-shield-wall-smith-of-kitava

[mellow coral]

Rage is shown as a bar that's on the bottom right of the screen

Not a buff

Rage increases attack speed and attack damage

And it's very good

[nimble acorn]

Oh alright, cool! Cheers 😊

[limpid talon]

Okay makes sense now 😅 did you check the jewels socketed in the gear? At my level I've only seen runes for socketing 😅

[mellow coral]

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean, you mean like the other augments besides runes?

[limpid talon]

Yeah the things that were socketed in the body armor and gloves. The red jewels and something that looks like the item that increases number of sockets of skill gems 🤔

[mellow coral]

Oh, these are soul cores

[limpid talon]

Gotcha and the thing in the gloves?

[mellow coral]

The thing in the gloves is called techrods gaze, it's a type of augment

It gives 25% life cost efficiency

[rotund tartan]

do people usually invest in stuff like armour / block when playing CI builds? or is it just pure ES?

[mellow coral]

There's maybe some that invest in armour, but I feel like just stacking pure ES is better

Also I'm pretty sure armour doesn't reduce damage to energy shield

Or if that's a poe 1 thing

[limpid talon]

Great, thank you for all your help! I never would've been able to figure out all of this by myself 😅

[rotund tartan]

ok so just pure ES will do then

[mellow coral]

Glad I could help!

[uncut bay]

20% is 91 spirit, 23% is 90

[mellow coral]

Oh right, true

Hm, I wonder where they're getting the reservation efficiency then, that it's 208 and not 210%

[uncut bay]

no idea

[limpid talon]

https://youtu.be/loeADC0qZc0

I found a similar ISH build on YouTube I guess if you wanted to try something similar till we can figure out the rest of the build 🤣

It's ember fussilade with coc fireball, but on a blood mage as well using the same kind of life to cast instead of mana

[mellow coral]

I think the build you sent before probably used snap on either the coc or coa, to generate fire remnants, then converted it using the elemental equilibrium keystone to change them to lightning

Either that or living bomb

[limpid talon]

Does frost bomb do that too? Because they're using that and ice nova at the beginning of the rotation 🤔

[mellow coral]

Frost bomb is for elemental exposure

The pulses make enemies more vulnerable to ele damage

[limpid talon]

Gotcha, I think I'm going to try to work my way to the build from YouTube and in the meantime think of ideas for the original build because that's definitely the more hyper expensive version 🤣

[mellow coral]

Good luck!

[zenith sierra]

Did your cultivation orb remove the modifier that makes you not need attributes for skill gems?

[mortal swift]

so I was looking for a good way to enable cadiros. Is there any build that is heavily attack speed based so it procs all cadiros very fast?

[upbeat prawn]

Im trying to copy this build: https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhcssf/character/Oskarmln-1292/sargetwo is he only running cast on ailment for bosses? Wondering how he sets up weapon swap and skill rotations.

[exotic compass]

Oooh good reminder I haven't checked what sarge has been up to recently

Yeah looks like manual entangle with CoC DD and then manual thunderstorm with CoC entangle

vines + storm manual for boss, maybe entangle if the Limit is high enough

[upbeat prawn]

Thanks for tips! Sorry just to clarify:

1. Are u saying manual entangle with coc dd on weapon swap 1. On weapon swap 2, i do manual thunderstorm with cast on elemental ailment?
2. For bosses, is my rotation, spam entangle, throw down vines + storm. And then keep spamming entangle and keep up on duration?

[exotic compass]

Wait sarge has played poison pf the whole season that isn't him, IMPOSTER

[upbeat prawn]

Yea this isn’t sarge lol. I think he hit lvl 100’first and he paid tribute to sarge

[exotic compass]

I cannot tell the entire rotation especially if it depends on Limits and durations of spells

I'd recommend checking your own tooltips, comparing to poe2db to find breakpoints, and nail your own combo

As for spirit gems, they are clunky at times and I've heard plenty of stories about bricked CoCs not allowing you to use them... In general I think manually toggling them off and on is safer than trying to weapon swap them but I can take another look at their ninja

If they are ignoring damage on one of the weapon sets, you can bet they are manually toggling

If their tree is one consistent damage tree, then probably set 1 and set 2 setup, does that make sense?

Yeah hard to tell on this one

there's just no way they are trying to deal damage on their sigil swap... I see now that their wand and focus combo is miles better than the staff alone

[upbeat prawn]

Ahh so most likely playing coc detomate dead for maybe clear. And cast on ailment for bossing? And then just manually toggling.

[exotic compass]

Yeah

I did entangle with CoC bone cage, and I had DD in my spellslinger

Mostly for the fat bloaters ya know

[upbeat prawn]

Yea makes sense. Thanks! I heard some ppl say u throw down storm first before entangle. Ive also heard entangle first and then storm. I dont fully understand how breakpoint works, but im trying to understand just a general skill rotation. Thanks a ton for the tips!

[exotic compass]

Doesn't matter in the end

Storm first means the boss is shocked immediately

In preparation for one of the many entangles you are about to cast

I don't see the need to worry about buffing that FIRST entangle hit lol

The fun part about plants is you can mix and match to fit your preferences, for instance I leaned away from thrashing vines and would only cast it here and there

Entangle, storm, and cage was enough

[upbeat prawn]

Oh okay. Thanks! This helps! Was playing ed contagion im hcssf and i just decided to swap to plant so this helps

[fringe kelp]

Cage dps has gotta be worse than thrashing vines right?

I couldn't get cage to work very well

Like thrashing vines does a ton of damage over time, it seems wild to not use it. With duration stuff it lasts a good amount of time so it surely belongs in the rotation for bossing

I used bonestorm for a bit but it just doesn't quite do enough damage to be worth the channeling time. Casting a billion vines seems to be better

[exotic compass]

Vines has a limit of 1... Casting over and over is DPS loss

But yes, in general I agree

[exotic compass]

Mathematically I think manually casting entangle, storm, and vines along with CoC cage is optimal

You don't want storm or vines in CoC for bossing unless you want to be lazy, adding them means fewer damage supports and again you can't have more than one storm or vines anyway unless you run overabundance

[upbeat prawn]

In the build i linked above, he has cast on ailment entangle (instead of cage). Does that entangle share the same limit of the manual cast entangle? Ive also loosely heard ppl debating between entangle and cage for bossing

[exotic compass]

Correct, same limit

I'd never give up entangle unless I was forced to, it's fun and does damage without making me hug the boss or waste a slot on astral projection

[upbeat prawn]

So this part i dont fully understand. For bosses:

i spam entangle manually, throw down vines and storm (once every 8 sec) and then go bak to spamming entangle. Why would i need cast on ailment entangle if i already have so many of them and hitting limit

[exotic compass]

With wildsurge keystone you'll have to cast vines more than once every 8 seconds, more like 4 or less

And to the latter question, you wouldn't

Maybe they just thunderstorm once, then alternate entangle and vines every 1.5 seconds or so

You definitely want to check your vines tooltip duration and CAST TIME

Because the vines SLAP every "cast time" you want to fit as many as you can into one duration

.6 cast time and 2.3 duration I'd be trying to get 2.4 duration, that make sense?

Even then I'm not 10000% sure it can get that lastttt slap in before disappearing

This is video replay analysis type shit and I didn't bother

[upbeat prawn]

Ahh thismakes sense and helps a ton.

[fringe kelp]

is CoA better than CoC? cause storm is guaranteed to shock

but it probably doesnt count multiple shocks?

so like on bossing, you'd need to keep consuming shock to re-shock?

does this regen 15% max mana when you consume 3?

[upbeat prawn]

yea im not sure at all. im curious about the same thing.

[minor star]

Is the disciple of the thingimajig fun?

[exotic compass]

https://youtu.be/YfSliiwX-5I?si=HjCL4umicoiu1cAz

Jung is not to be followed if you're new but his understanding of systems is nuts. I'd have to rewatch to confirm but CoA should be shitting out spells

[minor tree]

i can't seem to be able to use any minion skill that costs spirit, anyone has any idea why???

[exotic compass]

One tip I can give is to click the arrow next to number of minions... then check your weapon set values

They can be finicky and you should minus them down to zero, then plus them back up to what you desire on whichever set

Curious if that solves it...

[minor tree]

nope

[exotic compass]

Yeah my fault for not clicking the vid I thought it was a ss

[minor tree]

if i have a sceptre with warriors i can summon the 2 free ones

[exotic compass]

Resetting everything to zero including spirit gems + minions alike, restart your game, load back up and toggle everything on

Otherwise bug report/Google for this specific interaction... Hope you get it solved

[minor tree]

removed every gem

still says it wtf

rebooted too

it's fine i didn't want minions anyway i guess

[rancid beacon]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Southpaw1981-1429/character/DieLessMaybe would anyone be willing to give me some advice on single target damage, esp against rares and bosses; and any generically helpful defensive thoughts.

[minor tree]

tried a newly crafted minion skill gem that i never equipped before

still no luck

[fringe kelp]

with totems using "limit" skills, each totem has its own limit, right? meaning if I had 3 totems, they can each cast a "limit 1" spell, and there will be 3 of them going at once?

[whole silo]

Hi can anyone tell some good league starters for POE 2 i played poe 1 for 3 years new to poe 2 (i like ranged or mage type builds)

[minor star]

Tbh I went with wolf druid and I wouldn't recommend it per say as it doesn't feel good until you get decent gear upgrades but it is fun late game.

[minor tree]

for spells edc is always solid, varashta is a super low investment minion ascendancy, new pathfinder is super versatile and fast too, you can go for poisons and just decide from there
if you want druid i'd say go for bear or plants, oracle over shaman for CoC but that's not really starter territory

[late laurel]

Considering switching my classic Twister build to unlimited Poisons instead of normal

[minor star]

Is it still scorchsand for varashta or do you play the ice variant?

[minor tree]

i'd pass out if i attempted to do the campaign again tbh, i'm on oracle

the easy way is to go for the sand boi and just spam the starting command it comes with and clones

[minor star]

Not gonna lie I'm at the point of the game where I just started a new character as I messed up heavily for my temple.

[minor tree]

then -1s start of recharge

[fervent ember]

I guess the high cast time is a problem for Lightning Bolt? The cooldown of 0.19s is sufficient but the sequence of Lightning Bolt and Mana Flare is slow. Cast time is the problem? (autobomber build)

[minor tree]

pathfinder and titan are the "idk i'll figure it out later" options, with the former being very very smooth and will help you go faster

[minor star]

What's the best Druid transformation actually? Is it bear or wolf?

[minor tree]

imo bear

[minor star]

Bear seems better early but wolf late is just so fun!

You pounce around everywhere with lunar blessing demolishing everything

[minor tree]

btw what's the fastest 2nd character levelling option?

pillar/hollow palm? thunderstorm spam?

[rancid beacon]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Southpaw1981-1429/character/DieLessMaybe would anyone be willing to give me some advice on single target damage, esp against rares and bosses; and any generically helpful defensive thoughts.

[exotic compass]

Guythatdies on YouTube has a 3 hr campaign with commentary in addition to a 10 minute guide

LA for clear
Nades for boss

Otherwise I enjoy EDC but with skele snipers explosion instead of bonestorm

[minor tree]

edc is fine but i usually get contagion and essence drain on different targets when they're crowded, it's annoying x)

[minor tree]

yolo imma try to speedrun through the campaign with hollow palm

[olive compass]

If my skill gem converts 100% of physical to fire dmg, will added phys on rings and gloves increase my elemental dmg? (Like it works on phys weapons)

[exotic compass]

Correct!

"gain damage as extra physical" would not increase your elemental dmg since you are gaining FROM the converted damage 🙂

[atomic halo]

flat goes first, then convert, so yeah that works just fine

[grim ether]

Does lightning and cold exposure stack or does one overwrite the other?

[atomic halo]

isn't exposure generic now

i.e. only "elemental exposure"

[grim ether]

Yea, so I would assume it doesn’t then

[atomic halo]

i mean, i dont think lightning or cold exposure even exist anymore

oh you mean the supports

i got it

yeah they dont stack

[rapid lily]

How much are perfect jeweler orbs going for rn?

[atomic halo]

... check trade?

[rapid lily]

i got busy that why I asked, but yeah i got it

[austere berry]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/passive-skill-tree/ctHfmFnM1xUNqBH4tpYHNM43XBdkGcPuH8opg73UzbrYzyHq8f83Qkswq9t8bmP51QuCY4Tz2WtyX7P8HxdEQ5gpxz6KUcE5J9f78P94QaXJepYpzphxghfaVoTbbHX7EoTkuyPMCxu5JKcG4UnYK4r7fkLGqbtLfennX1KFzj41sFe6WPcKAcEveWyJdZfSLwjGxKsX121e7JqhR6jATA2mUxUdDmz9aJidTVBQNz5sG5B7uCKbiauGEkiNMDzFZRfcd9wu8n4wxy81gctPN7oLDXP5FXro5cYuGh1Eidhh?search=chaos&locked=

I want to play a chaot bolt main witch

[agile remnant]

I there anythign to consider using that benefits me from having like 6 charges swirling around me? Im not utilizing them well. Im playing druid but mostly using bear form. I can spend the power pretty easily but endurance idk.

Man i wish they could be used to remove the pounce cooldown, would be more fun jumping around

[mellow coral]

you can remove it, with temporalis

almost completely

lol

[agile remnant]

Well i mean i dont mind them being there. Its more like im wasting an opportunity i think lol

"every charge you have active around you gives you cool stat thing"

[mellow coral]

thats how it is in poe 1

[agile remnant]

Spell totem needs them but im not a fan of spell totem, well mostly because im not spell focused aside from the occasional rain and slowing plants

[mellow coral]

what build are you running?

[agile remnant]

im a noob but im mostly running bear stuff. Devour is whats giving me my charges, i use it for oil barrage because its nuts without any investment for me, but sometimes i just wanna not blast things with it

trying to be tanky, enjoying zealots oath so im mixing armour and ES, or trying to anyway

[mellow coral]

oh cool, ive seen a bunch of people use oil barrage and devour but all of them went wyvern instead of bear

[agile remnant]

yea i could lean into it for sure but i like having variety. To me a druid shapeshift between things more often even if its more button presses

or that how id like to play anyway

pounce>flap to explode things, then fury from afar was pretty fun. lots of moving around

well plants+rain then that

[mellow coral]

i kinda wanna try that cocaine bear build. you can get 70% inc action speed by using reverse chill

then the bear zooms around stomping lol

[agile remnant]

that sounds fun yea i dont have acess to trade yet if thats somthing you have to trade for

[mellow coral]

oh, are you still relatively early leveing?

[agile remnant]

yea im dilly dallying in story. only in act 3 about to unflood somthing

[mellow coral]

ah cool

good luck with the build

i did frost werewolf for my leaguestarter, now im bloodmage

[whole silo]

Is Chaos ED Contagion LICH good for new player league starter ?

[mellow coral]

yes, though i personally think theres more fun builds to play this league

[whole silo]

Can you suggest some

[mellow coral]

sure

melee, spell, both?

[minor tree]

is it normal that siphoning strike doesn't build combo? ò.ò

[whole silo]

Spell/ranged please

Mainly for acts and early maps its first time in poe2 i played poe1

[mellow coral]

i really liked plant druid this league. theres also all the verious spark builds you can build towards. poisonburst arrow thats very strong

even lightning spear is still pretty fun

theres also bleed spearfield bloodmage thats very strong, idk gow it is in campeign tho

[plain cloud]

I crafted a Physical Talisman with the typical % and as extra, and managed to get lucky with a Critical Hit Chance roll on it, which of the shapeshifting builds generally scales Criticals ?

[mellow coral]

all of them, ik some of the werewolf builds really want crit

the more crit chance you have, the less crit damage inevitable crit will remove, so its just generally good

[plain cloud]

That makes sense, thanks! IIRC there was some CoC builds with Wyvern which I'm guessing would like Criticals and sounds like Wolf has some options as well, does Bear actually go for it as well? I don't recall any of those

[mellow coral]

im not really sure abour bear, but you can filter poe ninja by the skills bear players use, and see what kinda weapons theyre using

should give some insight

[plain cloud]

Thank You

[dire hound]

helloo, i started the league very late and am now starting maps as stormweaver and am pretty lost on what exactly to aim for ... saw a guide about reverse chill but didnt realize how expensive that was i would love some recommondation for a cheap but fun build (maybe 10 div for setup if possible)
(i hope is okay here, the stormweaver build-help thread apparently reached max possible user in thread or i am too lost to use it)

[uncut bay]

yes, perfect

[uncut bay]

first of all you shouldnt start maps before leeching at least 100d in temples, that takes 4 hours at most if you know what you are doing
second of all you should do a cold infused spark build, if you invest into ES recovery then use maligaros, for the weapon I feel like adonia's ego is much cheaper than rare staves, but can be pretty strong, with sacred flame, so you can sustain mana, watch operator otter on youtube

the main downside is that you have to figure out and get used to casting pinnacle of power

[alpine raptor]

i have some items to get you started with reverse chill if you want

[whole silo]

What about monk builds i am struck between these two for my first league i want to do until early maps only please tell

[uncut bay]

you mean quarterstaff builds, not the monk builds, I only know flicker strike is very strong

[whole silo]

Yes staff ones

[sage tulip]

Anyone up for looking at my current build. I think it might do well but I feel like it might lack power. https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/7x1r90qf

Im still working on supports and augments for slots.

[silver anvil]

can someone teach me how does the armour break explosion thing work? trying to see if i can set it up on my wyvern

[sage tulip]

you maybe playing wyvern but what class and what Ascendancy ?

[silver anvil]

i thought it was class agnostic?

anyway im on oracle

[sage tulip]

no you can play wyvern but be a warrior titan or whatever else you want. Im building a bear smith of kitava warrior.

[silver anvil]

???

im asking about armour break

[sage tulip]

no Im just saying its not class restricted. so for wyvern oracle druid and wanting to add armour break explosions.

[silver anvil]

???

[mellow coral]

lol

@silver anvil ill explain in a sec

[silver anvil]

kk thanks

[sage tulip]

yeah trying to think of how to make it work as a wyvern oracle. I mostly did that sort of build with an ice build or as a warrior but that is an interesting concept.

I know with herald of ice explosions can apply armor break which then triggers armor break explosions.

[silver anvil]

it literally doesnt matter if youre oracle or not what are you talking about

it probably also doesnt matter if im a wyvern or not but that im not too sure

[mellow coral]

basically how it works: herald of ice procs by shattering an enemy with a non herald attack hit

we use armour explosion for that

you want gain % of damage as sources, because that adds to the armour explosion and herald damage

especially gain as phys

so on your herald of ice you want armour break III, armour explosion, and probably uruks smelting too

[silver anvil]

do i need an initial hit to explode?

[mellow coral]

you need to freeze the target in some way

to start the chain

[silver anvil]

ic

[mellow coral]

• any source of gain % of damage as phys

[silver anvil]

embitter it is, i suppose

[mellow coral]

probaly

what build are you running?

[silver anvil]

not sure yet, winging it as i go

its wyvern something, with hyrbid AR/ES (skewing to AR side of things), at the very least

trying to figure out how the explosion works so i can figure out if i should bother trying to fit it into the build

hoping to solve any issue with money when i run into it

i think biggest issue im facing now is finding dex

[sage tulip]

well this is why I brought up ascendancies and see how to tie it into the build. Warbringer actually has a path in the ascendancy that makes armour break easier. just not sure how to tire in Oracle into the mix since I haven't ran it before.

[mellow coral]

druid builds are all really stat starved it feels like

[silver anvil]

yea, definitely feels that way

[sage tulip]

agreed

[mellow coral]

armour break isnt the issue though

[silver anvil]

had an armour bear earlier this league and i cheated by dumping some of my res requirements into a purity scepter by taking the scepter keystone thing lol

might end up doing this here too if i really end up stat starved

[mellow coral]

you just need gain damage as phys on either the tree or the weapon

or both ideally

[sage tulip]

fair,

if your focusing Strength you could get brute strength node since you gain 1% of damage per 15 strength.

[mellow coral]

its not really worth it

unless yure heavily stat stacking

[sage tulip]

then also pick up beastial rage for every 10 rage you gain 12% physical damage

that might be a good chunk of physcial damage

[mellow coral]

you need gain % of damage as phys

not increased phys

for example dangerous blossom

you can relatively easily craft a good weapon with gain 30% of damage as phys using essence tho

[sage tulip]

since you know much more than I do, do you mind looking over the build I linked in this chat and see how it is ? I think defence wise its good but Im worried about the damage output ?

[mellow coral]

sure

[sage tulip]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/7x1r90qf

[silver anvil]

okay so, here's what I understand

HoI makes enemies explode when they die. This explosion breaks the armour of other stuff, causing them to... uh chain explode? How does that work?

[mellow coral]

basically, you want the hit from the armour break explosion to have enough damage to freeze the enemies, that will proc herald of ice again and chain

[silver anvil]

oh armour explosion support, okay

most importantly, i need armor explosion, armour break, and uruk's smelting

[mellow coral]

yes

[silver anvil]

and another 2 more supports can either make me do more damage, or freeze better

[mellow coral]

and gain damage as % phys

hm

[silver anvil]

that's on the weapon, should be fine there

[mellow coral]

probably freeze first

[silver anvil]

all the topend weeapons have that crafted on anyway

[mellow coral]

sine aequa gloves help with freeze at higher levels

[sage tulip]

this I believe can also be done with Herald of plague as I think. can't it alson be done with herald of ash ?

[mellow coral]

that i do not know

[silver anvil]

eh idk if i wanna do that, im planning on going really defensively (or as defensive as a AR leaning hybrid AR/ES build can go)

but im more or less looking at a high AR rare glove

guess i should check sine aequo to see if i can get by without it

[sage tulip]

Im just thinking if it can be done with herald of ash I mean then you wouldn't be limited to ice damage. its just when something dies it explodes with the over kill damage amount.

[mellow coral]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Patrick_Not_Star-4448/character/Vaal_Druid_Rerun this is the setup i ended up with that utilized the explosion

[sage tulip]

just not sure if you can put armour break on it

[silver anvil]

im sure i wont need the sine aequo with enough damage

i wanna get high armour base with armour applies to ele

[mellow coral]

lol you dont really, but for ubers and such it makes it feel much much better

[silver anvil]

im doing a "proof of concept" here as far as i go

will be happy with 1-2m dps

though my budget is decently high so I can just buy a really good weapon and some lineage supports and i'll probably hit that amount of dps

[mellow coral]

you can craft a pretty damn good weapon for relatively cheap

[silver anvil]

probably cheaper to buy a failed craft of a t1/mirror tier weapon

[mellow coral]

maybe, depending on how much you have as a budget

[silver anvil]

more than enough, probably

[mellow coral]

btw @sage tulip i looked at your build, looks good overall, im curious though, why did you choose warbringer

[sage tulip]

It should be smith of Kitava. I might have accidentally set it as warbringer when I was checking out warbringers passives.

[mellow coral]

sorry, meant smith

[sage tulip]

Ahh cause of the massive armour value as well as the 50% to element damage defense and the 3% max health regen.

With smiths of katavas passive I can make the perfect chest piece armor.

[mellow coral]

true

[sage tulip]

Also going to use scepter so it also has 30% increase to spirit which semi counters the scepter node decrease of 50% to spirit.

My main concern is damage output though it’s so heavy into defense I’m not sure how my offense will be.

[mellow coral]

is this a build youre building towards, or something youre running rn?

[sage tulip]

Something I’m building before playing. I’m currently only a lvl 5 warrior so I’m future planning so I don’t waste money respecing later.

I prefer to build then play rather than play then fuk need to rebuild later

[mellow coral]

mhm

tho the whole chest armour thing is cool, idk how damage will look like

wouldnt it be better to choose an ascendancy thats more offensive oriented?

[sage tulip]

True but I wanted to do a hp regen build and figured smith of kitava would have been best for that.

[mellow coral]

mhm

[sage tulip]

3% max hp regen is hard to pass up when berserk costs quite a bit

[fervent ember]

Does Cast Speed affect Lightning Bolt (Choir of the Storm)?

[mellow coral]

it does, i think cooldown recovery is more imporatant tho

[sage tulip]

Also trying to focus fire damage except for the bhatairs vengeance since it scales with rage amount.

[mellow coral]

very cool, i dont think ive seen anyone run that

[sage tulip]

Would wish they had a bhatairs vengeance but for fire damage instead.

[hallow musk]

Can some one tell me how people are running cast on crit, wolves, mana remnants, and arch mage on 224 spirit. Or is it a weapon swap thing?

[silver anvil]

Any interesting way to leech both life and energy shield? There's that belt but it only seems to work if I actually leech the life (aka I need to take damage first?)

[mellow coral]

not life leech, but essentia sanguis lets you convert life leech to es leech

and then you can just build some regen

you can also build just regen and go zealots oath

[sage tulip]

I tend to do lots of regen with zealots oath so it effectively makes my ES a second health bar.

[mellow coral]

if you have enough faster start of es charge it feels really good too

[sage tulip]

I think there is something though that makes your health potions also effect ES at the same time.

[mellow coral]

eternal youth?

not at the same time

[torn tulip]

Is there a hard cap on lowering attack time

[mellow coral]

im pretty sure there is, but what build are you running thats hitting the attack speed cap lol

[torn tulip]

Oh it’s not i’m at 0.45 rn I just didn’t know how low I could get it

[mellow coral]

it can probably go as fas the server tic rate

so 0.033s per hit

[torn tulip]

Yea apparently it’s 0.03

[mellow coral]

yup

[torn tulip]

Is act 4 the last act

Cause then I think after this boss i will be on maps and can start replacing my stuff

[mellow coral]

after act 4 theres the interludes

[torn tulip]

Okok

Is iron or lightning rune better for storm wave?

[mellow coral]

depends on how much phys your weapon got

[mellow coral]

probably lightning

i see youre lvl 50, theres an augment that gives 1-50 lightning damage

[torn tulip]

I’m gonna replace the weapon sooner rather than later

[mellow coral]

probably better use one of those

[torn tulip]

I’ve had it since level 30

[mellow coral]

might be due for an upgrade

[torn tulip]

This unique mana flask has been really nice

[mellow coral]

ye, leviangas is pretty nice

[torn tulip]

Is dancing mirage good to keep? I’m using the invoker passive that gives me spirit based on my es and evasion on my chestpiece so I’m wondering if I’ll get something better later

Oh ig I’ll probably end up swapping everything out, general said last night that maps stuff will give me affixes that are like double what I have now

[mellow coral]

the higher the item level is, the higher tier affixes it can roll

[torn tulip]

Ohhh

Ok sorry if I’m asking dumb questions this is the first time I’ve made it past jamanra

[mellow coral]

theres no such thing as a dumb question

[torn tulip]

I used to only play HCSSF but I’m having a lot of fun in softcore SSF

[mellow coral]

HCSSF is brutal

damn

[crude ermine]

what's good support gem to use instead of uul-netol's embrace?

[mellow coral]

depends on what youre using it for

were you using uu netols for damage?

or armour break

[torn tulip]

Oh and when will I start dropping tier 5 support gems I need to replace branching fissures 1

[crude ermine]

dmg

[torn tulip]

And also when do I get to add 4+ support slots

[mellow coral]

im pretty sure at your level theyre already able to be dropped

[torn tulip]

So im just unlucky lmao

Ty!

[mellow coral]

depends ig, if you need specifically chaos, then you got extraction

if not, then you can go deliberation, or blindside if youre blinding enemies

any of the pen gems is good probably

if its an elemental skill then the masteries for +1 to level of skill

[crude ermine]

for whirling assault, i dont want to take brutality bcs i want to deal some ele dmg and there is no more phys dmg boost to add

i took ancestral cry II

[torn tulip]

Literally just got one to drop

[mellow coral]

oh for whirling assult use armour break 3 instead

same effect, less damage

but still very good

[mellow coral]

noice

[torn tulip]

this game confuses tf outta me sometimes

How come I just jumped up 1k dps

[mellow coral]

lol

conditionals?

[torn tulip]

Maybe

What does enduring shrine do

[mellow coral]

50% increased maximum Life
100% increased Global Defences

[crude ermine]

huge diff ty

[torn tulip]

Hmm I see my dps fluctuates

OH I MUST HAVE HIT A CRIT

I forgot I have a bunch of conditional dps based on hitting crits and my level of health

[mellow coral]

theres a lot of conditional buffs and effects in this game

tooltip is a bit whacky

[torn tulip]

Im following a build guide while I try to get a grasp on how the game works

[charred ingot]

Guys what is an bigger upgrade for 200 DIVS. Buying a better Bow or Buying rakiatas flow (lightning arrow deadeye)

[toxic beacon]

It depends on how good your current bow is

[charred ingot]

this is my current bow

[toxic beacon]

I would at least look for an upgrade to this. It’s not that great.

[charred ingot]

ok thx

[charred ingot]

is this one worth it?

[mellow coral]

i feel like just going pure phys might be better

unless you need that lightning

oh wait nvm this is la

[mellow coral]

this ones better then yours, tho phys % is kinda low

[charred ingot]

alright thank you

[charred ingot]

i could also buy this one, phys is higher here but it doesnt shoot an additional arrow and has lower lightning damage

[mellow coral]

i think this one might be better. isnt the additional arrow an augment?

you should probably pob it to check which ones higher dps

[charred ingot]

its a rune which you can put into the bow

[mellow coral]

mhm

[toxic beacon]

Just put the rune in to the new bow

[dusky wadi]

i dont know why but shard scavenger is not giving me the "no bolts consumed" buff when i freeze things

[terse stag]

Hey hey 👋
If I'm planning to run around and spit fire as a druid wyvern, what should I grab for my non-talisman weapon? I've so far been some random staff so I drop a volcano when I'm about to spam lots of rolling magmas, but I've noticed that all shapeshifter abilities are considered to be attacks and my spells don't really do that much.

[hybrid ocean]

Hey, so doesn't Sculpted Suffering single handedly enable herald chaining?

Feels like it might be worth running on a weapon swap for that reason alone

[olive compass]

Guys, does anyone knows how much damage do i gain when using defy? In average how much dmg do i gain with lucky attack dmg?

[velvet summit]

im trying to use pob to make a build and for some reason on the trade site i cant "copy" an item. the button isnt there?

[drifting apex]

i think it's only there for poe1

[mellow coral]

no its definitely there for both

weird

maybe an issue with the browser?

[shut rune]

Need some help.. Im getting to a point where if its a single strong elite/boss ill run out of life(mana to cast) and just die.
any advice?
https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1790f

[static basin]

Any suggestions for me? I die way too ez
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1462009604249616636

[minor tree]

huh so apparently wand+sceptre is bugged and prevents minions from being summoned

the moment i remove my wand it's fixed

seems to be only with spellslinger wands

if i swap wands they'll summon, then switching weapon set breaks them again

huh having a 2nd spellslinger wand in set 2 fixes it

cool

nevermind i can only summon warriors lol

[visual warren]

is COC pathfinder or any other pathfinder archetype worth playing? im bored of poison

[mortal swift]

what are desired lines on this staff if I want to flip it?

[celest oxide]

Does Rampage/Slam Titan need Crit on GG Talisman?

Or very good talisman at least

Wondering if I should be trying to fracture AS or Crit

Or + Skills

[mortal swift]

you could try out cadiros

[visual warren]

explain?

[mortal swift]

the unique, cadiros gambit, its a fun quiver

any build works with it I think if you build for it

more AS + extra arrows focused

[fallow nymph]

how does infernal flame affect skills that give buffs with full mana?

Do the skill see having infernal flame as having full mana or no mana?

[fiery helm]

im leveling a new character with druid ice wolf is bear or wyvern better for leveling than wolf?

[fallow nymph]

I have had a really easy time leveling as wyvern and this was the first time I played poe2 (never played poe1 either before)

[fiery helm]

what build

[fallow nymph]

I followed this one:
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/p4wnyhof/builds/druid-starter-perfected

[fiery helm]

is wyvern fun? i was looking between ice wolf and bear also coc comet but that didn’t look too fun

[fallow nymph]

I like it, it's also surprisingly strong end game. Im making a witch as my 2nd character and it's a totally different experience once I hit the high end maps. 😅

The druid can be very tanky thanks to the combination armour/energy shield gear. As wyvern you can clear T16 maps really easy with rend. The bosses die also really fast using the oil barage. And I mean really really fast

[oblique marlin]

everyone have this bug?? only one fix is creating new spirit GEM FROM SCRATCH! WTF

[deep spoke]

anyone have any idea what should i do here?

[halcyon hazel]

Hello guys
Quick question
Can I build a Ritualist Bleed/Poison ?? ^-^
Because I see a lot of Pathfinder going Poison and Blood Mage for Bleed im lost xD i dont know if just these ascendancy can build Bleed and blood ahah.
I like Blood Boil I wanna try to build a chain explosion with Blood and Poison xD

[mortal swift]

most any class can go most any archetype

ritu can definitely go poison but I would venture you go like unholy might poison or something? Bleed Im not sure about, you can check out poeninja for peoples builds to see what ritualists do

[fervent ember]

You can even play a poison spark stormweaver in t15 maps. Will it be as good as poison pathfinder though? nah

[mortal swift]

I venture doedres is a really good way to go poison

[halcyon hazel]

How you recommand me to build Poison Ritualist then ? ^-^
Im not good at theory crafting ahah

[mortal swift]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal?class=Ritualist&allskills=Blood+Boil&sort=dps you can look at this

this is the top end, but it should give you a rough idea

[halcyon hazel]

Crimson Assault is a great passif ?
I dont understand how ppl supposed to die if the bleed is 1 seconds ?

[mortal swift]

you keep applying

on bleed build it is really good because you dont have to aggravate and it has +magnitude

but who is going crimson assault? I dont see any builds using it

[vast blade]

I’m using a doedres build rn how would you add poison?

[mortal swift]

uh, you just add + poison and chance to inflict poison, since poison scales off of phys and chaos and doedres is already that its an easy scaling

[iron ermine]

is anyone able to take look at my spark coc comet build as a bloodmage? it doesnt seem that strong and doesnt proc comet that often

[vast blade]

😛

[mortal swift]

post it

[iron ermine]

nvm i think i was just lagging when i was using it

i think there were that many comets it wasnt even working properly

its working fine now tho

it does proc much less in maps tho thats normal right?

[dreamy valley]

Any good builds that i can run t15 Abyss's for 400d?

[fervent ember]

So I switched to Dueling Wand and got no clue what to do with Spellslinger. Any good use for it? As a spark - lightning bolt build.

[mellow coral]

living bomb + arbiters ignition lets you get elemental archon pretty easily

just use the lowest level living bomb you can

[fervent ember]

thanks, gonna have a look into that

[rotund tartan]

kinda? i've been trying out a coc comet build too, I noticed that it procs way more on bosses. i think its because of the way COC gains energy? normal mobs give like 1, whereas uniques (bosses) give like 3

[fervent ember]

just to be clear, i could use a lvl 1 living bomb in theory?

[mellow coral]

yeah, i use a level 3, i think thats the lowest

[fervent ember]

boundless energy II and which other supp do u use?

[mellow coral]

harmonic remnants and remnant potency

for the fire remnant

i use it to also empower my comet for bosses

[fervent ember]

ok thx

[mortal swift]

u could put spark in spellslinger and blink around ;)

[raven warren]

Anyone wanna take a look at an idea I had with CoC Arc/Snap? I'd love some people to cast an eye on this and see if they spot any problems or can fine tune it. I haven't really thoery crafted a build before so not sure if I've missed anything. https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/17a1d

[uncut bay]

sure, replace every single support in spark, dont use pinpoint critical, dont use snap

[raven warren]

Would you mind explaining?

[raven warren]

Just had a look at this on PoB. Dropping pinpoint crit drops me from 62.78% Crit chance to 39.24% but does give higher crit damage. But that would then mean I proc the cast on crit significantly less. Snap is there to generate infusions by consuming shock and detonating the enemies, with the archon buff going I'll have around 25% chance to shock and all damage contributes to shock from the ascendancy.

Vilenta's Propulsion and Pierce ramp up the CoC really fast with the amount of targets spark can hit as well. Rapid Casting working with that too.

Would there be a better way to set this up?

[brittle anvil]

your crit multiplier is too low

[raven warren]

With pinpoint?

[brittle anvil]

use Maligaro then

[raven warren]

I can swap out for Maligaro's Virtuosity which caps it

It's either that or I try and push higher crit chance through the passive tree and not use maligaro's. I'll have about 500% crit multi at that point

If I dropped snap, I'd also scrap applying shock at all all. I could get higher crit chance if enemies aren't affected by ailments. and focus on pure damage with Arc instead

[brittle anvil]

idk about other stuff but I would use Maligaro and drop a bunch of crit bonus nodes

you are investing too heavy in crit for a 9% base crit skill

like if you bring the same tree and gears to a bloodmage it becomes a better version right away

[raven warren]

the base crit is 15% node im assuming?

[brittle anvil]

yeah

[raven warren]

That'd become a whole different build at that point because I can't run CI anymore either

So I'd need to start stacking life/efficiency

[brittle anvil]

but your options are to use Maligaro and put pinpoint on everything, or not using both of them and be a worse version of bloodmage

[raven warren]

Can't really argue with that logic.

Does blood use infusions as well?

[brittle anvil]

first option you get a lot of free points tho

[brittle anvil]

for comets only, mostly

[raven warren]

I was trying to steer away from comets, tho idk if it will work with Arc the same if I just juice lightning infusions

[uncut bay]

you are falling into the energy trap, it means you are trying to increase the overall energy gained while ignoring your actual damage outside of CoC, meanwhile if you work on your main damage outside of CoC you will increase both that damage and the energy because energy depends on the damage

[raven warren]

When you refer to it scaling from the damage, is that what this line means?

[uncut bay]

if you had maligaros on top of pinpoint critical I would understand, but that would be still suboptimal because it's hard to find high value passives outside of crit damage and crit chance. without maligaros you are just bricking your build with pinpoint critical, it destroys your damage

"percentage of the enemy's ailment threshold" yes, this means more damage = more energy

[raven warren]

Ahhh because more damage = more ailment applied?

[uncut bay]

why does your frost bomb look like it generates cold infusions for spark then?

if you freeze and shatter monsters with spark you can't snap their shocked corpses

[uncut bay]

you would have to watch one of the operator otter's videos or something, it's a complicated topic, it's similar to the freeze buildup, the more cold damage you do the faster you freeze

[raven warren]

That was just a filler spell I had on because wasnt sure what else to do with it. On my current build I only ever use it on bosses for the exposure because I gen cold infusions from orb of storms

[uncut bay]

alright if you are not freezing trash mobs snap will generate lots of lightning infusions for your arc, that makes sense

[raven warren]

ahh yeah, sorry for the confusion, it's just there for bosses really

[uncut bay]

so the spark supports are irrelevant then?

[raven warren]

how so?

[uncut bay]

wait you use non infused spark as your main skill, got it

well first of all I wanna say generating infusions on stormweaver is super easy, cold infused spark deals 3 times more damage, I recommend it

[raven warren]

Yeah, so the plan here was to cast spark > lots of projectiles, moving very fast (Using pierce and propulsion) to pierce as much as possible > Crits more because it hits more and therefore would proc arc more

[uncut bay]

okay so vilenta's propulsion gives you around the same amount of proj speed as the regular proj speed support, but the proj speed support also buffs your damage by a lot, and to make vilenta's propulsion outperform it you have to invest tons into cast speed to the point where hard diminishing returns hit

you are stormweaver, you can't sustain that much mana anyway

40% more proj speed is the right support and increases to proj speed apply to damage

pierce is not needed coz trash mobs die anyway, you need single target damage, if you want pierce you take 45%+ pierce on the heart of the well or branching bolts

I have a branching bolts megalomaniac btw

pinpoint critical bricks your damage, lightning mastery is what, 13% more damage? very bad for a support

rapid casting is a very small damage buff for a support gem too

here, just replace zenith with rising tempest or whatever

[raven warren]

So on my current build, I'm getting about 50% more projectile speed with propulsion. As long as I'm killing and getting mana remnants I can sustain but it's hard against bosses.

Would the 50% projectile speed bonus not be worth it from propulsion over the added damage from proj accel?

[uncut bay]

sorry and replace pinpoint critical there as well 😄

what is your overall end increased cast speed??

if your increased cast speed is too low "proj acceleration" outperforms your support, if your cast speed is high enough you just wasted tons of mods/passives/jewels on something with hard diminishing returns when you could have invested into crit damage and crit chance

and I played stormweaver myself this league, with CoC and mana remnants it was hard for me to sustain my mana, with medium cast speed

[raven warren]

All together im about 106% increased cast speed. This is from spark.

This is also without HH buffs or anything else ongoing

[small anvil]

just putting this on here to see if people are interested in off meta builds. it's not as strong as meta stuff, but this is a very functional build than can be achieved for very cheap costs. clears t15-16 easily

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/1ae288df-6000-4de0-b9ed-d28980918129/builds/03ce56e3-e862-440c-800c-6bc6854e6826

if anyone is an excellent builder, open to advice on achieving better dps, i know vertex helm is an option to boost +levels as the unique weapon restriction makes this difficult

[raven warren]

Small breakdown here.

Pearl ring with 36% total.
Gloves with 8% (Rune)
Wand with 26%
Amulet with 32%
Rapid casting support 20%
20% from tree (8% from a crit node and 12% from the 3 points at the start of the tree by Practices Signs) - Only 3 points spent on actual cast speed nodes

[past wind]

Guys does energy barrier support gem works with eternal youth? Making life recharge to start when being stunned?

[iron ermine]

Even in act maps it procs like 20 comets per click but on maps its like 2-4

[mellow coral]

im not sure about your build, but coc gaisn energy based on the amount of damage you do

so the more damage per crit -> more procs

in maps it procs less probably because they have more damage mitigation

[lusty shard]

How useful are the +quality to skills from the gemling passive tree? I mean you could also just get the quality on your gems with a gem cutter prism or not?

[mellow coral]

depends on the skill, some get some very strong buffs from quality

with the gemling passive you go over the 20% limit

[lusty shard]

I see. But I could also get that quality via gem cutter prism right?

[mellow coral]

no

with gemcutters prism you can only go up to 20%

[lusty shard]

ohhh, so there is no limit for it?

[lusty shard]

Good to know, thought 20% was the limit for quality

[mellow coral]

nope, you can also corrupt to get up to 23%

[lusty shard]

nice, so that means I could go to 36% quality with the tree 😱

[mellow coral]

yes lol

[lusty shard]

or even more if corrupted

[mellow coral]

thats the point of the skill

[lusty shard]

that's a lot, holy cow

[mellow coral]

would be kinda useless if you couldnt

lol

[lusty shard]

yea that's why I was wondering lol

damn now I am split between tactician or gemling for my summoner build

😀

[mellow coral]

you can always respec

or make a new char

[lusty shard]

that's true, looks like tactician is more tanky and gemling more damage

[mellow coral]

i havent looked at any summoner builds but youre probably right

[lusty shard]

I have a titan summoner, it's a lot of fun and very tanky

just wanted to try another class for a summoner, just for fun 🙂

to see how far I can go with it and it if its endagame viable

[mellow coral]

nice, your own build?

or following a guide

[lusty shard]

Yes sir, making my own build.

[mellow coral]

thats sick!

[lusty shard]

but it's easy to do summoner,

[mellow coral]

id love to see the gemling/tactician build when youre done, havent tried a minion build yet

[lusty shard]

it's not very complex compared to other builds.

[mellow coral]

still making something on your own is sick

[lusty shard]

Most people probably go with infernalist for the extra spirit free hellhound, but you have to play it with energy shield which I don't like so much. I am not a big fan of using energy shield even if it is the best defense at the moment.

[lusty shard]

You can do that too sir, I am 100% sure.

[mellow coral]

maybe, made my own builds for 0.1 and 0.2, but the last 2 leagues not really

[lusty shard]

Nice, what builds did you make?

I have only played summon builds so far lol

[mellow coral]

for 0.1 my favorite build so far, temporalis autobomber with the ice wall interaction that was possible back then

for 0.2 i made a few, tried making ice spear work but ended up making my own lightning spear

[past wind]

Nobody got my answer 😭😔

[lusty shard]

Cool, an autobomber. Was it a zero button build?

[mellow coral]

yes

cast on dodge

[lusty shard]

reminds me of diablo 2 java hehe

[lusty shard]

awesome, would be perfect for my hands which are fucked reason why I play 0-1 button builds like summoners

[mellow coral]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Patrick_Not_Star-4448/character/PatrickPerhapsStar

this is the char btw

all whacky cause its from 0.1 but a nice trophy for all the farm ing i did that league lol

[lusty shard]

Nice, temporalis is such a cool armor

[mellow coral]

it really is

[lusty shard]

how tanky was it? 🙂

[mellow coral]

it was not verry tanky, but because blink didnt have a cooldown, youd move so fast nothing would hit

i 1 shot 6 man arbiter 4 with this

damage was so crazy

[lusty shard]

giving poe1 vibes 🙂

[lusty shard]

dope

[lusty shard]

why doesn't it work anymore? what did they change

[mellow coral]

yeeah, closest one so far

[lusty shard]

trigger gems still do work right?

I was thinking about to make a tanky thunderstorm build (chronomancer or varastha) with some of the trigger gems in addition.

[mellow coral]

temporalist doesnt go down to -4 seconds anymore, and a lot of cooldowns were capped. trampletoe got changed too

and i think the ice wall interaction with the lightning got change

[mellow coral]

ooo interesting

[lusty shard]

I see, GGG completely killed the build

[mellow coral]

yup

the lag it caused was crazy tho lol

with a 4090 i was running at like 30 fps

[lusty shard]

damn lol, would probably be unplayable with my stone age internet connection

[lusty shard]

lol ok, I wouldnt even be able to play it with my 3060 haha

[mellow coral]

ill try to find a vid of it lol

[lusty shard]

ok 😀

[mellow coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17_eBppkTlg this is jungroans version

[lusty shard]

Is that you? I watched some of your videos when I was looking for a build idea

Nice, that build its extremely fast

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-barry-allen-run-fast-gif-6144593

[mellow coral]

no thats a streamer called jungroan lol

just didnt have a clip of my own build

[lusty shard]

ah oki 😄

[lusty shard]

this looks indeed pretty laggy if your internet or pc sucks haha

but pretty cool I like it

[mellow coral]

this is without the main interaction too

[lusty shard]

damn

[mellow coral]

with mine, every blink spawned about 100 icewall that just explode themselves

the partcles+super fast spawn cause some crazy things to happen

[lusty shard]

I see why they nerfed it 😀

[mellow coral]

ye

[lusty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-mob-clear-gif-10972648227834624746

[mellow coral]

i was thinking actually, did you see the interaction with scolds bridle and lightning coil?

[mellow coral]

i just love spin to win

[lusty shard]

yes sir

[lusty shard]

Why not, whatever makes fun to you 🙂 . What are you building right recently?

[silk gust]

https://pobb.in/xJYlKhsJXx57

can someone explain to me or even dm me why my build isnt doing any damage?

[mellow coral]

i think im gonna make a ritualist LS with infinite frenzy with it

[silk gust]

i tried to make a coc build

[lusty shard]

Oh nice, never used frenzy in poe2, I saw they changed it a bit from poe1

[mellow coral]

you need way more crit

you only have 25% crit chance and 200% crit damage

[silk gust]

hmm crap

any idea how?

[mellow coral]

gonna try and move things around a bit in the tree

will send in a bit

[silk gust]

hell yeah

[livid quest]

You need crit chance on your wep , offhand , (There is a unique ring with crit chance to spells). Also pinpoint critical support helps. Your crit chance for the spell triggering comet needs to be over 85%

ofc 100% is better but I wouldnt play it without atleast 80

[silk gust]

hmm, that makes sense

no wonder mapping is horrible

[livid quest]

It actually doesnt matter how you get it ( there are points on the tree aswell so I would take those too) , Spells have base crit chance so I would use a spell with high base crit chance ( easier to get it to 100%)

[real zealot]

Does anyone know a cheeky way to proc briarpatch while still shapeshifted. Looking for a 0 button solution, and i mau have to resort to the cast on mechanic. Empowered sparks support gem doesnt count as casting a spell ive learned

[silk gust]

i think i remember why my wand has no crit chance

it was too expensive for me

[dreamy valley]

whats a good build I can get going for 400 Div? Wanna do t15 maps, with Abyssal overruns

[silk gust]

I enjoyed playing varashta plant build but i wanted to try something else

[dreamy valley]

I hear it's hard to kite the Amanaru mobs on plant though, right?

[silk gust]

I did not have any troubles, you just have to pay close attention to their attacks and that green laserbeam can really mess you up

[dreamy valley]

fair, might give that a look thank you 🙂

[silk gust]

I think there are a lot of cool builds like ice wolf too

Or pathfinder

[dreamy valley]

made all my money on a poisonburst pathfinder, wanna get away from that ascendancy for now

Might give Ice wolf a look too, i've got an 87 Shaman

[lusty shard]

That's a good question, I hope someone can help you here.

[visual warren]

is anyone playing COC pathfinder? ive been thinking about a comet build but dont want to reroll another character

[past wind]

Trying to use this unique but don’t need energy shield recharge rate so better play life recharge

[lusty shard]

you mean you only need the maximum mana as armour?

[lusty shard]

Hnmmm I don't think it works, I rather think it will make the barrier support gem useless if you go with eternal youth. But I could be wrong, maybe someone else here knows it.

I googled it, but couldnt find anything about it, I have no class that is in this side of the tree, so I can't try it out to see if it works.

[past wind]

Lets read eternal youth’s description