2┃build-planning

[void osprey]

i am building it on Ritualist to be a simulacrum farmer but for some reason i sometimes my ES regen stops and I die.

[gentle fern]

hello why am i unable to socket in any support gem on pain offering? I have the required stats and I'm not using it anywhere else
the build guide i'm following says to use it but i'm not sure why I can't use an uncut gem for it

[hollow bronze]

Show what it says?

[stray mango]

Lich is fun but is there any other chaos build we can use? I find it slow on killing bosses

[somber vale]

Obviously Rake is very strong for leveling at the moment, but I want to try some other leveling builds that can come even remotely close in speed. What would you guys rank as the top 5-10 leveling builds if you're absolutely blasting through?

[muted birch]

Lightning spear was nice for my Ranger Gemling and Amazon

[somber vale]

I probably should have been more specific. I'm mostly interested in act 1-3. I feel like Lightning Spear doesn't pick up till tier 2 support, which makes it a bit later.

[muted birch]

Oh you mean like SSF where dont have the supports already?

[somber vale]

Yeah, fresh.

[muted birch]

Ah well sorry lol. Idk I normally just push one character high then use gems to level my others fast

[somber vale]

np 🙂

[dawn spire]

Essence drain+Contagion is very good for leveling imo.

Contagion + persistence + magnified effect
Essence drain + Chain + swift affliction for trash mobs
Second essence drain + hourglass + zenith for bosses/rares

Despair + Decaying hex + inspiration for extra oomph and spreading despair via contagion

Dark effigy + envenom + concentrated effect for bonkers single target

[muted birch]

I though about contagion but its alot of thinking i prefer the 1 button leveling builds so I went with Rake lol

[median wharf]

What happens when i apply the vulnerability curse with the boss already armour broken? Does it actually do anything?

It shows up separately, not im not sure what effect

[crystal storm]

yo, what should i use as single target, for clear i use Galvanic Shards
i play tactician

[median wharf]

shockburst rounds

[void osprey]

hey is anyone here familliar with or uses the Gloamgown whirling slash build?

[gleaming kite]

i believe it would only work if you were using the warbringer ascendancy node that lets you reduce armor below zero

[median wharf]

yeah, i think so too, couldnt find anything else on this. i decided to drop vul

[bright haven]

How rare is the haste aura mod on monsters? 0.o

[glacial plover]

Where can I find my current accuracy rating? I'm not seeing it on the char sheet nor in PoB

[gleaming kite]

its per skill gem

[dawn spire]

Only if you're a warbringer with the "armor can go negative" node I believe

[dawn spire]

On fast monsters, it cannot appear at all

Idk about the rate aside from that

[bright haven]

What would you support plasma blast with?

[median wharf]

how do i set snipe at 100% crit rate on pob?

[atomic halo]

1000000% more critical hit chance, +100% to critical hit chance, etc.

[dawn spire]

I'm not at my pc, but there might be a dropdown on the left where you set your skill to select "perfect hit" or something. That might guarantee the crit if it's coded correctly

[atomic halo]

you can just do this if assuming always perfect timing

[dawn spire]

I know some skills have options to select different components (like poe1 lightning strike melee hit and projectile hit)

[atomic halo]

nvm yeah the dropdown just works

[dawn spire]

But yeah, a custom mod will do the trick, it'll just also give your other skills the buffed crit

[atomic halo]

if you set it to explosion at the dropdown it will be 100% crit

[dawn spire]

Nice, gj localidentity and team

[median wharf]

i didnt find a drop down in the calc page, but custom mod worked

ty

[atomic halo]

its not on the skill screen, it's to the left of the screen

above the box with the dps stats and such

it's best to set it to explosion because that also factors in the 200% inc crit damage bonus

[median wharf]

this one right

[atomic halo]

yeah click arrow

and change to explosion

[median wharf]

its only arrow and explosion

[atomic halo]

explosion is the one

[median wharf]

ohhh, gotcha

ty

[gloomy gazelle]

Does Smith of Kitava do anything better than Titan or Warbringer beyond defenses?

[dawn spire]

It has two skills that are unique to it, so any build that uses those would fit the bill

[tulip fog]

when using giants blood, does skills use both 2-handed weapons for damage? considering if i should use a damage weapon for off-hand or one that gives + to skill levels but has shit damage

[static torrent]

Every skill clarifies how it uses multiple weapons in its description, but most with either hit with both weapons, or alternate between them.

[median wharf]

from my experience the most successful method is to use two similar dps weapons with high + skill levels to do damage

[tulip fog]

if i could use that at my level, i would, but weapons like that are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than similar weapons at lvl 60-70
which makes it so im forced to use whatever i find

so i am using this for my main hand

and currently using this for off-hand

[atomic halo]

both are bad

[tulip fog]

but thinking if its worth swapping it out for

[atomic halo]

are you in ssf

[tulip fog]

those are the best ones i can find at my level

[atomic halo]

you can trade for better with 1 ex

[tulip fog]

i am not, but better weapons are like 10-20 exalts each at that level, meanwhile if i look at similar weapons at lvl 60-70 they are 1 exa each but i cant use those since i am not that level

[atomic halo]

a level is only like 5% more damage

[atomic halo]

what's your level?

[tulip fog]

36

[atomic halo]

oh that's really early to go giant's blood

i assumed you were in maps or something because almost nobody goes giant's blood that early

[tulip fog]

i see, idk if its worth using it this early, i am just kinda following a guide on what to go for in endgame and thought id just go for it as soon as i can since i am strength stacking anyways

[atomic halo]

they're fine then, this should be correct #2┃build-planning message

[tulip fog]

i know that its best to use high damage and + skill level, its kinda nobrainer if you can get that, but since low-level weapons with those stats are 10 times more expensive than endgame weapons i cant get those

[atomic halo]

yeah, so just keep playing and level

damage should be fine at your level

[median wharf]

this was my leveling weapon

u are better off using a shield to level instead of 2x dual

i rmb taking giant blood early too, but with a high block chance shield

[dry knot]

is there a support gem that makes your skill hits not kill enemies?

[midnight obsidian]

you can make it not do the damage it's supposed to be doing like brutality on an elemental skll

[crystal storm]

block is much better, 2h weapons / x2 2h weapons are undercooked

is lucky lightning worth it, its same as in poe1 and huge multiplier actually?

[median wharf]

it think so, its been buffed from last league too

now u can lucky crit hits

[atomic halo]

yeah

that node's only 30% but it's still very powerful

[rapid lily]

Hey guys I’m doing a spark bloodmage and was thinking about switching to internalist. Are there any good builds that can do t14’s and up? I just got to be able to do 14’s on my BM yesterday

[dawn spire]

If you're asking if spark and/or infernalist builds can do t14 maps, then the answer is a resounding yes. Same is true for blood mage

[modern swallow]

Question about ignites:

Do mods like "Gain %X damage as extra fire damage" work on effects like Radient Grief? (Enemies in your Presence are Ignited as though dealt 100 Base Fire Damage)

I know that things like +X% fire damage work, but I'm not sure about damage conversion like that.

[atomic halo]

no

conversion only works for hits

[modern swallow]

I thought increases like "+25% fire damage" also only worked for hits? (And just made bigger ignites because they caused a bigger hit?)

[atomic halo]

oh yeah this mod simulates a hit

so i guess on hit effects do work

it's a bit weird though

[modern swallow]

yeah, it's like a weird "fake" hit, where it doesn't actually hit them, but it ... applies damage modifiers as though it has?

[atomic halo]

yeah

just doesnt deal the damage of the hit

see the viper comment here #2┃after-acts-help message

so it should benefit from anything that modifies hits

[modern swallow]

Good to know. Thank you! (Didn't realize crits worked too!)

[rapid lily]

Yeah I’m asking what builds that internalist has that are strong that I could switch to

[brazen goblet]

having a good time with LS ranger. what are the jewels i should be looking for?

[median wharf]

damage/crit damage/magnitude/es

[brazen goblet]

i am sorry. i meant lightning arrow

[median wharf]

no difference lol

[dawn spire]

I'd check poeninja, maxroll, or YouTube, personally.

I did some pob tinkering with some sort of low life MoM crit build with pain attunement, but never actually made a character or figured out what skill I wanted to use with it

[pearl sluice]

What happens if you have avatar of fire and use blackflame ring? Will everything convert to fire damage and then the ring converts the ignite to chaos damage or they just do not work together?

[atomic halo]

read blackflame

does it say convert anywhere on it

(it doesn't, because it doesn't actually convert. your hit will deal fire damage. the ignite will deal chaos damage. they do work together.)

[pearl sluice]

so the ignite damage is seperate from what you do? So you will only be able to deal no non fire damage but the ignite is seperate damage and not based on you?

[atomic halo]

basically yes

once the ignite is applied it's applied

[pearl sluice]

Ok tysm

Never done anything with left side of the tree so trying to figure out some stuff

[chilly swan]

If I get 100% pierce on the tree, do my projectiles pierce multiple enemies?

[tulip fog]

is there any way to trigger the wind dancer buff stack retaliation without actually getting hit? im trying to do a weird off-meta reflect build and im having difficulties doing the first sekhema trial since it needs me to get hit to deal damage which defeats the point of the trial

[gleaming kite]

just run honour resistance for sekhema

i didnt have any issues with a thorns build

but to answer your question not that i am aware of, wind dancer requires being hit to activate

[tulip fog]

is it not possible to see the effects of quality on the skillgem itself? as in the explosion radius changing from 1.6 to 2.0 on the one with quality

i tried to see in the skill stat panel but explosion radius was not visible there either

[static torrent]

It shows separately when holding Alt, I think it is included in the regular number when you're not. Also, it does show that increases by 0.4 metres on the second one, down there.

[tulip fog]

thats a separate line that just shows that this is what you gain from quality, it doesnt alter the stat above

which is what im talking about

skillgems do this in PoE1, when you add quality to them the stats on it alters to include the extra stats gained

i.e. the explosion radius would show 2.0 instead of 1.6 with 20% quality

and i cannot view the skill without holding alt or pinning the window, so that has no effect on the stat not being visible

[static torrent]

It only doesn't alter it because it behaves as if Alt is pressed when the other tab is opened and pinned, but it works the same way as PoE1 on skills where that stat is on the primary tab.

Like so, you can see the Strike Range go up

[tawdry gate]

what's the current 1 click no brain build? planning to return

[tulip fog]

i see, thanks for the clarification

[crystal storm]

For crossbow lightning singe target ive been told to use Shockburst rounds;
What is good way to apply shock for unique mobs?
im lvl 56

[tulip fog]

the one guide im following now is pretty bonkers in endgame, not so much while levelling, very gear dependent, but damn is it nice (judging from the footage shown.
idk if there is any other better 1-click builds out there but the one im talking about is almost a walking simulator (except for bosses that takes slightly more effort)

[alpine moat]

wep set 1 :skillpoints 2 (22) but i cannot insert them to my tree why ?

[static torrent]

You need regular passives in order to apply them as weapon set passives. That 2 is just indicative of the number of weapon set passives for Set 1 that you have left to allocate, with 22 being the total number you could allocate.

Also, if you do Win+Shift+S, you can capture a portion of the screen instead of both screens.

[median wharf]

Rake stomping ground

[median wharf]

Best way is to use shock ground and scale shock mag on weapon set two

[alpine moat]

@static torrent oke thank you , but how do i allocate them ?

[static torrent]

De-allocate some regular passives and allocate them as weapon set passives instead.

[alpine moat]

oke thank you

[crystal storm]

shock ground from what?

[alpine moat]

but will i get more points from it in the end ?

[static torrent]

If you use both weapon set 1 and 2, you get up to 24 points (from campaign, 24 more from Witchunter) that you can allocate separately between the two sets. If you are using purely one weapon and never use weapon swap, you might as well allocate all passives as just regular passives.

[alpine moat]

k ty

[crystal storm]

ssf 😦

[median wharf]

Storm caller arrow with a bow

[dawn spire]

There's a support that makes a leap skill create shocked ground on crit. That's why they linked a quecholli. You use leap slam with that shocked ground support and quecholli and it guarantees the crit to make shockes ground

[crystal storm]

im asking more about skill, maybe there some "lightning orb" of poe2 which i can put and it would shock people

[dawn spire]

Lightning warp creates shocked ground if it culls an enemy

[median wharf]

Lightning orb + warp also works

[dawn spire]

Ball lightning*

[median wharf]

But its too skill slots

[dawn spire]

But it doesn't make shocked ground

[median wharf]

Did they nerf it from last league?

[dawn spire]

If you warp to a ball it no longer makes shocked ground. It must cull an actual enemy to make the shocked ground. Yeah

Got nerfed

[median wharf]

🥲

Yeah arrow setup prob

[crystal storm]

[crystal storm]

so i guess look into a bow and skill swap

[median wharf]

Yeah just equip whatever good attack bow u find, and slot in storm caller with overcharge and commiserate

And whatever other shock support u have space for

[crystal storm]

but wait, what is the vision of this gameplay, like they gave me single target skill which do dmg only on shocked enemy and no good shock apply skill for same weapon type?

there is nade, but it electricution for some reason

[median wharf]

Normally we use plasmacharge to open

[crystal storm]

this one?

[median wharf]

But its wonky to use

And missing it is sadge

[crystal storm]

its incredibly long to charge and wanky to use

[median wharf]

Yup

[crystal storm]

and also i think it can miss

[median wharf]

But its a butt load of damage

U can also use lightning rod + orb of storm

But again 2 skills 💀

[crystal storm]

ok, what is the single target then for lightning crossbows, maybe i was recommended doomed idea

[median wharf]

It is sbr, no challenge. U just need a way to shock first

Sbr does so much damage

[median wharf]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SmnBekXfUvA?si=vht8abfatFNYerlb

Heres a vid of someone using lightning rod + orb + sbr

Thats the idea

[mighty delta]

Hey does anyone here know why lich witch builds are recommended using a unique helm that makes some dmg bypass Es and lower cast speed?

[median wharf]

Keep reading 🫣

[mighty delta]

What do ya mean pal?

I dint have access to trade market stuff at all so idk if it's a build-breaking item yet or not

I have to find it from a guild-mate if they put one in our stash, or someone links one in-game and let's me buy it.

@median wharf this guide I looked at doesn't give details of that helm

[median wharf]

Oh im saying to keep reading the helm, the last line is why people use it

[mighty delta]

Ok I understand what ya mean

So even though you trade of other stuff, gaining that much Es based on hp is what makes it worth it right

[woven depot]

lich has an ascendancy node called eternal life which means your hp can’t change while you have energy shield, atziri unique helm just becomes straight up damage reduction cause the damage that ‘goes through energy shield’ can’t affect your life

[mighty delta]

So I need to get my hands on one of those

Yeah I went eternal life

I'm trying NOT to just pay for my asc this time around. Usually I've had to pay 1div per each char I build.

And oh you're right! I forgot about that last bit negating the downside of that helmet

Makes sense. How much do those norm sell for?

[median wharf]

Depends on roll

[mighty delta]

I likely won't come across one in the game chat but just wondering how much to save

[median wharf]

Check the market website

[woven depot]

like a couple of exalts at most

[mighty delta]

Market website is fucking useless🤣🤣🤣

They have my poe/GGG accs fucked up

I can look at the website but no matter what I do, it ALWAYS says I'm not signed in

I've tried everything, I've unlinked/linked, emailed support, signed out/in, nothing works

So im mostly SSF

[median wharf]

Interesting

[mighty delta]

Yeah. I have no support for ggg's method of trading on poe2

They made a good game for us to play and that's all they're worth in my opinion. Their trade system is so crude

[woven depot]

I have one if you want it

[mighty delta]

Let me atleast give ya something equal in value

I dont have GREAT stuff but I'm sure I have stuff that can sell

[woven depot]

it’s borderline worthless

[mighty delta]

How come? Bad rolls?

[woven depot]

Just a cheap item that’s not super rare

the rolls are alright, haven’t qualified it or anything tho

[mighty delta]

Ahhhh ok. Stuff valued at even 5-10ex is valuable to a player like me lol

I'm the pinnacle of budget building in poe2🤣 what timezone are you??

[woven depot]

I’m CET, but doesn’t matter really for trading

Message Shieldchargehero if you want the helm, I’ll be on for a while

[mighty delta]

Well im not on atm, it's 9:30am for me and I've got some things I gotta do around the house before I jump on and do any gaming

[chilly swan]

I'm confused about the wording of shattering palm. Does the explosion scale from quarterstaff?

[atomic halo]

no because "This skill always Strikes with your bare fist, even if you have a Quarterstaff equipped."

it has its own base damage and crit chance listed

[chilly swan]

The explosion has an Attack % though.

The hit definitely doesn't scale with quarterstaff damage.

[atomic halo]

it's an attack with its own base damage

if it scaled off of your weapon it wouldnt have a flat crit and flat damage listed

or wait

[stark kestrel]

Quick question, does anybody know if firestorm snapshots its damage at cast time? I'm curious how it interacts with seething bodies 50% fire damage. Say I finish the cast of firestorm and afterwords drop another spell that pushes me beyond high infernal flame. Do I get the increased damage. And the other way around as well, if I finish the cast at high infernal flame and then drop below how does this impact firestorm damage?

[atomic halo]

nvm i think it does scale

[chilly swan]

So, the melee scales with increased unarmed %, and it's likely the explosion doesn't, right?

[atomic halo]

i gotta think abt this for a second tbh

it says + crit which is almost always unarmed stuff

[chilly swan]

Fwiw, the explosion also has its own base crit chance

[atomic halo]

yeah, that would suggest that its its own damage

[chilly swan]

Yeah, the attack damage % is what's throwing me off. It also requires a quarterstaff equipped to use.

[atomic halo]

same thing for flat, there's like zero skills that skill off of your weapon and have flat added

[chilly swan]

I'm glad I'm not the only one at least. That's why it caught my attention as well. I saw the flat added, the base crit, and attack damage %.

I don't have a char that can test by equipping different quarterstaves.

Also, not sure if poe2 shows tooltip for explosion.

[atomic halo]

according to pob it's all unarmed damage

attack % isn't neccesarily contradictory just a bit weird

[chilly swan]

So, it is scaling the added damage?

[atomic halo]

yeah

all damage has damage eff

if it doesnt show it's 100%

[pearl sluice]

I have a POB question, I have watched quite a few videos and still learning to use everything. In the videos people run full dps power report for passive, I left this thing open for quite a long time and nothing is ever populating, but combined dps works. But when I watch videos people are able to get full dps power reports. I am wondering what I am doing wrong.

[chilly swan]

I think there's a bug with Staggering Palm... If I have a Quarterstaff equipped, the projectiles always seem to use my quarterstaff attack damage, even if the projectile originates from something like Killing Palm, which doesn't use my quarterstaff. Is that actually a bug? Or does that seem to be expected?

(I would prefer the non-quarterstaff damage because the weapon is basically just a stat-stick)

[chilly mist]

does 'physical damage is pinning' effect your ability to afflict stun with physical damage? i feel like before i equipped the item that gives me this effect, my leap slam was guaranteed to stun at least a few in the group, but now it seems to pin instead? But I can't find any info saying that one counteracts the other

[gleaming kite]

are you talking heavy stun or light stun

i dont think pin affects either directly

[mighty delta]

@woven depot

[woven depot]

you’ll have to wait, it’s like 1 AM and I’m watching series

or spend the exalts

[mighty delta]

Ok no worries, maybe another day!

4:30pm here for me lol

Fuck I hate ggg sometimes

How the hell can I be ingame on xbox, open the trade website and be signed in on the website, but says I'm not signed in in-game when I try to direct whisper

Makes zero sense. Great game, dogshit trading system

[jovial patio]

Hi guys, need some help with my build. I am not sure how to get more damage. I am low on currency. Probably around 1 div i have. Help me understand what should i invest in first and what should be the next plan.
My build - https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/1b2620xu

[median wharf]

more damage like how? bossing or mapping

[muted birch]

Idk what it is but something in this setup looks odd

Ahh

Hes missing a shitload of crit nodes

Thats what it is

Wasted alot of points for jewel slots too

[median wharf]

yeah its kinda all over the place

[muted birch]

Remove these points

Put them into the crit nodes

Sorta like this

https://poe2db.tw/pob/XzGg5HLHo6

Look at at my tree and pull the points from the pics and add them to the crit nodes ive picked

[jovial patio]

Both. But mapping for now

[median wharf]

get that

get that

[muted birch]

Why does everyone use the 3 herald nkdes?

They seem like a gimick ngl

[brittle anvil]

that's 50% inc

[median wharf]

its a lot of damage for few nodes

[muted birch]

But like only for general clear thk right?

[median wharf]

what u mean?

[atomic halo]

it's just a lot of damage

% inc damage is scarce

and 50 is a big number

[muted birch]

Isnt that onyl active when im mapping and not bossing

[median wharf]

are u turning off herald to boss?

[brittle anvil]

all time, unless you disable herald for bossing

[muted birch]

Wtf

I have been lied to

Complete shit Ig i get to change my tree again tomorrow

What should I drop for it?

Attributes?

[median wharf]

whatever is less important/gives less damage

[jovial patio]

In terms of gear, what should i invest on first? More damage or more es?

[brittle anvil]

do you need the fire res from the sceptre?

should use the crit weakness or discipline one

[median wharf]

probably a chest, urs is very weak

[jovial patio]

I will have 20 fire res without it

[brittle anvil]

and why don't you take these crit nodes

[jovial patio]

Full ES or hybrid?

[jovial patio]

Yeah, took just now

[median wharf]

hybrid, but like double the defensive stats of what u got now

at least 1000/400

[median wharf]

damage wise u wanna get some stats somewhere

u need more dex for skills

[brittle anvil]

also howa looks meh, you are getting 40 damage and 8% attack speed

you can get better damage and res from a rare gloves

[gleaming kite]

damn am i also cucking myself with howa

9% atk speed and 10-90 damage

[median wharf]

how does howa compare to flat attack on gloves, so if i have 100 int, is that 5x 1-10?

[brittle anvil]

yeah

averaged ~25 damage

[median wharf]

ty

[brittle anvil]

rare gloves you can get damage, attack speed, life and res, crit bonus

[median wharf]

i think atk spd is just fake dps

ls is more focused on damage per cast

rather than chucking spears non stop

[gleaming kite]

depends on the skill

some benefit greatly from it others not so much

[median wharf]

yeah talking about ls

[median wharf]

does this game count arrow speed as projectile speed? why is plague shot quiver doing less damage than phoenix spike?

[atomic halo]

the attack speed is doing a lot of work here

[median wharf]

attack speed would only affect dps no? its lowering my average damage

[atomic halo]

whatever pob says is prob right

[brittle anvil]

it's only 3.6%

but yes arrow speed does affect prj speed with the bow notable

[atomic halo]

^

[median wharf]

ok yeah i figured this was the only way it made sense

[brittle anvil]

btw what build you doing?

[median wharf]

iceshot/snipe

definitely too much set up for my liking, but this is what i do it for

[brittle anvil]

imagine we get returning projectile

[median wharf]

then maybe i can one shot t4 xesht

rn my highest was 14mil per cast

https://poe2.ninja/pob/8dfd

take a look if you would like, i can use some pointers on how to further scale damage

might have to open it in pob to see my wep set 2

[brittle anvil]

is pob wrong or your bow doesn't have crit bonus

oh weapon set 2

[median wharf]

The weakness exploit support gem, it says to consume armour break for 40% damage. Does the hit still take advantage of broken armour’s 20% more physicial damage?

[remote narwhal]

Ok so

I'm doing a thorns build on titan

And I realized I can go two routes.

One being eve and block

Or the other with sacrosanctum and go es and recoup.

(with a 50% life and es recoup)

[remote narwhal]

Probably.

I'm not 100%

[median wharf]

Reddit people seem to agree on the broken armour is consumed after the hit, so the increased phys is calculated into the hit that consumes it

It makes sense, i just wanted to be sure

[odd charm]

Can I get some advise on what the best heralds 5 links are for
Ash, thunder, and ice

[chilly swan]

Add pierce and find a way to 100% ricochet from walls.

The ricochet acts the same way chain does, so it will bounce from the wall back to an enemy.

You'd likely want proj speed and duration as well though, so the projectile lasts long enough to return.

[median wharf]

Poe2.ninja

Search each of those skill through filter, u will see most used support by %

[odd charm]

Ok thank you

[remote narwhal]

It all depends

I'm using 3 heralds

Herald of blood, ash and thunder.

But my heralds cost almost nothing.

[dawn spire]

TIL; darkness reservation from Acolyte of Chayula does NOT work like ES.

1. It does not protect at all from damage over time, only hits.
2. Every time darkness is reserved from a hit, that reservation has its own timer.
3. Timers are NOT refreshed when more darkness is reserved.

So this effectively means that if you have 1000 darkness and are getting hit for 100 damage every second, you will never run out of darkness (with the 10s darkness reservation timer)

[chilly swan]

And it's even better when the reserve time is 5 seconds... And you can wear kaom's heart with it.

[dawn spire]

yeah, just gotta find one of those (:

[chilly swan]

I made a mana-stacking MoM, EB, CI Darkness monk and was surprised at how good it felt. Especially as an early form of defense. Granted, I was in trade with a friend, but, still.

[dawn spire]

The longer the game has been out, the more I think people are realizing that Acolyte is pretty nice for certain builds

I took darkness as my first node in act 2 and it almost doubled my eHP

it's nuts early

[chilly swan]

Yeah. I was making a palm skills monk, stacking melee levels, and died in A2 because I put off doing the trial :/

[dawn spire]

If I were to go the mana route, I'd probably take the 34% of damage taken from mana before life on the tree and just stack a medium amount of mana and ES. I'd probably skip darkness

damn, new Kaom's is looking pretty tight, too

[chilly swan]

The reason I went nuts in mana-stacking is because it was my first time trying to mess around with Darkness specifically. I was thinking, "I can use impending doom, and get a bunch of chaos damage from darkness by protecting it with MoM"

[chilly swan]

New Kaom's? Is there one that isn't just +1000 life?

(I think you can target farm it with rogue exiles btw. One of them supposedly wears it.)

[dawn spire]

Oh, I was talking about the art lol

[chilly swan]

Oh yeah. It's sick.

[normal apex]

what does the empty roar effect exactly? what does it mean "all attacks are empowered"?

ok i see there are some skill nodes that affect empowered attacks

[dawn spire]

Sí, yo estaba atemptando a decirlo en español, pero no sé decir "all attack count as empowered attacks" jaja

porque las palabras en tu pregunta no estaban correctas; The Empty Roar no dice, "all attacks are empowered"

[normal apex]

i wrote it quickly, also you don't need to use spanish, i'm proud of my english
thanks for the intention ^^

[dawn spire]

Tu inglés es fantástico, pero me gusta practicar mi español. No pensé que necesitaste leer español, perdón. No hay muchas oportunidades a usar español para PoE 😛

[weak rain]

anybody know why the three dragons solid mask is useful?

[static torrent]

It allows you to apply ailments with a different element than usual, so if you're using Lightning, you can Freeze with it. Depending on what you're using this for, this can enable a variety of effects like generating charges through Combat Frenzy.

[cloud pebble]

Does Spell Damage get multiplied the same way as Fire/Elemental damage in Magnitude Of Ignite/Damaging Ailment?

Trying to understand why a certain build is pathing into Fire instead of Spell

[static torrent]

The Magnitude of a Damaging Ailment is scaled by the Pre-mitigation Hit that inflicts the Ailment. If you're hitting with a Spell, it would scale the Magnitude in the same way regardless of Spell, Fire or Elemental Damage (assuming you're hitting with a Spell that does purely Fire damage, anyway)

[static torrent]

It could be that it has higher values, or that they're aiming for some specific notable

Hard to say for sure without seeing it

[cloud pebble]

Unless I'm missing something, it's not that

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawnhc/?allskills=Incinerate,Whirling+Slash&class=Gemling+Legionnaire&passiveids=59779&heatmap=true

There's 3 (of 5) GLL in the league that are running the leftwards variant of this build. I'm stumped why they're specing into Burning Nature instead of Potent Incantation or Ruin. I've seen other builds avoid burning Nature (in Softcore). I'm just confused about this because

It's right there once you're getting down to Melding/Pure Energy/Dampening Shield/Insightfulness. And Ruin is right there too

It's 60:5 vs 59:5 vs 59:7

Part of why I'm so hung up on this, is that the Lich variant (which I've been playing until today) uses the other 2, and it works.
The cast speed and spell area is not a significant drawback in that build (especially because they are only for the second weapon set used for snapshot)

[static torrent]

I can't say I'm entirely sure myself, I'm not particularly familiar with this build. Could be the Ignite Duration, since set 2 is taking all the Ignite-relevant nodes

[cloud pebble]

Wait, I'm having a brain fart. I guess it makes sense since they're not dipping into Prism Guard

But even the one out of 3 does

also as opposed to Slow Burn which has duration and magnitude

only 6 nodes, but multiplicative

idk

Not trying to follow ninja trees biblically but stuff like this eats away at me lol

[oblique gulch]

how do i make spear do heavy physical dmg

im not looking to do bleed

just high hitting physical dmg

e.g support gems that could assist, what spear skills could be generally better to achieve this

[chilly swan]

This is a pretty open-ended question; Has anyone used contagion to proliferate a large poison hit? I was looking at the "Low Tolerance" node and was curious if it would continually increase the damage of the poison being spread...

Like, Poison an enemy, contagion, then when they die, the poison is spread to another enemy with its duration refreshed, and if it's the first poison on that enemy, it does 60% increased damage... Then it spreads again to another enemy without poison on them and gets another 60% increased damage... is that how that node works?

In theory, it would let you just scale aoe for contagion, since you don't really care about its damage.

You might even be able to just use ED as the poison hit if it continually increases in damage with each spread.

Am I crazy to think Low Tolerance behaves this way? Anyone have experience with that node and doing something similar?

[uncut creek]

would increased % chaos damage on a ring affect this?

[atomic halo]

yes

[stark kestrel]

I have no idea, the text "spread by you" might be an issue since I don't know if contagion counts as you.

[noble token]

is poison pathfinder endgame viable? is clear reliant solely on herald of plague? dont really see gas arrow being too amazing for t15s

[jovial patio]

Hi Guys, Whats good support gem for Malice

[dawn spire]

I need to amend my prior statement about darkness not working against damage over time. It does, but I just got shredded by it and it ran out whenever I looked lmao

Darkness works very weirdly with damage over time...

I was in the sun temple and sitting at like 80% "hotness" from the sun and my darkness was full, yet I was taking some damage over time to my life/es. I moved a little closer to like 90% and my darkness immediately depleted to 0 and my life/es damage taken didn't go up that much

[bright haven]

Yo, someone here ever tried to buff the ice damage of arctic armour with hulking form, running those pin physical boots and big explosions with the bone shrapnel gem? Is it possible to proliferate the explosions somehow?

[chilly swan]

I'll test it out, just not sure how...

[stark kestrel]

Could try at the cold act 1 witch, she spawns adds. Compare damage after 1x spread and with no spread. Bit tricky though as you alsi need to subtract the initial hit that applies the poison.

[chilly swan]

Yeah. And also the mechanism for spreading would be contagion, which has its own damage that increases after spreading.

Should be able to calculate for it though if the enemy lives after the 2nd spread.

[stark kestrel]

Yeah using low lvl gems. With and without the poison. Keep me updated on your results. I'm very interested.

[chilly swan]

It'll take me a bit but, I'll try to report back later tonight.

[jovial patio]

Hi Guys, This is my build - https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/jmiw04oo
How can i incress my dps without using Sacred Flame?

[median wharf]

more flat on ring/gloves

Better jewels

More dex

U want at least 205 dex by lv90

[jovial patio]

Next ring/gloves are more than 20-30 div

[jovial patio]

What do i need i n jewel?

[median wharf]

Shock mag

Then ur damage stuff

U want at least 3/4 good lines

Should cost 1-3div each

[median wharf]

I dont know how u searching rings, but definitely dont need that much to upgrade em

U can also swap to a different scepter with int to help with res a bit

Purity of thunder should help ur rings be a lot more damage

[jovial patio]

Gotcha. I see. Need to get my res from some where else

[chilly swan]

I had some time during my lunch break to test, but I haven't been able to accurately test if it benefits multiple times or not. Something else that's interesting is that the contagion can spread to enemies already inflicted by contagion, and that already have a poison stack. So, even if your build is 1 big poison hit, you could stack that big poison hit in groups multiple times pretty well with contagion.

There's likely better ways to clear huge packs of mobs, but, it's still a pretty interesting way to enable some off-meta right-side poison shennanigans.

I have to remove the +1 to poison nodes to try and test whether or not the poison magnitude continuously affects the spread.

And escalating toxins, which might have affected my previous test actually :/

It's really hard to tell with all of the other factors. It also kind of depends on how poison works. If I hit someone with a massive poison hit and then hit with a smaller one, how does that work? Does it overwrite? Just refresh the poison duration? Are they both ticking under the hood but when the big one expires the small one continues to tick?

[chilly swan]

I'm thinking that the poison magnitude isn't applied multiple times, but, it would take someone more knowledgeable than me to chime in. My guess is that poison magnitude is only applied to hits. Spreading an existing debuff, like contagion is doing, wouldn't count as a hit.

[stark kestrel]

I do know that each poison ticks under the hood but only the most damaging active one does damage. As that expires the next active most damaging poison deals damage. That's with max one poison.

[stark kestrel]

Yeah my intuition would be that it spreads the size of the initial poison and contagion spread doest count for low tolerance.

Interesting idea though

[bright haven]

Playing galvanic shards and rapid shot. What would give me more overall damage: Soul Core of Citaqualotl or Soul Core of Topotante?

[inland ore]

Can someone help me with a lightning spear build? I’m Amazon- Huntress level 50, I’ve tried looking at a few guides but can’t really find any

[chilly swan]

I actually just saw an interview with Jonathon where he explains this, so, yeah.

[chilly swan]

Er, I'm not 100% sure actually. I think I'm still right but, I just realized Low Tolerance is "Increased effect of Poison you inflict..." not increased magnitude.

[trim swan]

Hello, when does Ambush (and pinpoint Critical) apply.
I thought they all go by base crit hit chance of the spell but somehow its way more for me
example. Frost nova with 12% base with 66% crit goes to 100% with pinnpoint

[static torrent]

That's because both are More Critical Hit Chance, so if you are at 66% base, getting 60% more will bring you to over 100%

[trim swan]

So its added at the end ?
When I hit 50% and add ambush I have 100% ?

[static torrent]

For reference, increased and decreased is additive with other modifiers of the same type, More and Less is multiplicative. So, a More modifier will happen after the increases/decreases, and multiply that value.

[trim swan]

Alright, thank you

[static torrent]

This is from PoE1, but it covers this principle - and I imagine that once the Help Panel is added into PoE2, it will have a similar explanation

[chilly swan]

I've been looking for a single big hit to apply poison damage and noticed the upper bound of plague bearer is 15k in a single hit (At gem level 20). Are there single hits in the game that are bigger than this? (As far as base damage is concerned)

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure if plaguebearer allows you to further scale the physical hit that it does, but if it doesn't, then there are likely way better options

If you can scale that hit further, then I'd wager it's probably among the strongest options available for a base physical hit. Especially with +levels to it

[chilly swan]

I'm guessing it would scale off of phys %, area %, and crit multi if you're wearing something with malice?

[chilly swan]

I'm not 100% sure about malice though, but I don't think blood mage ascendency would give it 15% crit chance since it's not a "spell"

And armor break, obviously.

[dawn spire]

Armor break wouldn't raise the poison damage from it though

Just the hit damage

[chilly swan]

Bigger hit = bigger poison, no?

[dawn spire]

Not entirely, no

Poison magnitude is determined by the pre-mitigation damage of the hit

So armour, resists, etc, are not factored into the magnitude

Same with shock and other debuffs that increase damage taken

Though those will raise the dps of the poison once it's applied

[chilly swan]

Oh! That's really interesting. So, despair will increase damage of the poison tick, but, not the application from the hit (if the hit is chaos)

[dawn spire]

Correct

It doesn't double dip

[chilly swan]

That really should be what I consider first. When in doubt I should ask, "would this cause the ability to double dip?" and just assume nothing will double dip the chip.

[chilly swan]

I've read the "receiving damage" wiki like 50 times now, but, somehow missed the Damage over time section where it mentions ailments applied by hits have their damage calculated pre-mitigation.

[dawn spire]

Reading is the hardest pinnacle boss. I've died to it many times

[uncut creek]

what is the difference between energy shield recovery rate and recharge rate?

[chilly swan]

My educated guess is that recovery is better than recharge. Usually with verbiage like that, recovery is acting as a sort of multiplier to recharge.

[uncut creek]

ahhh gotcha okay ty

[atomic halo]

recovery is everything that gets you energy shield back

[chilly swan]

bloon is more correct.

[atomic halo]

recharge, leech, regeneration, etc.

recharge is a specific mechanic that also falls under the umbrella term of recovery

[chilly swan]

The same is true for mana regen vs recovery. We had a chat in this channel a while ago about how MoM and Arcane Blossom function.

[inland ore]

For a spear Flat lightning and crit is the best thing to craft for lightning spear build no?

[chilly swan]

Have you come up with anything to make Darkness feel good? It seems like even having 30-60 spirit is just too valuable to give up...

[dawn spire]

I'm in act 1 cruel with a chaos dot acolyte build and it feels so freakin beefy. I went darkness + halved reservation time out of the gate and it's been a breeze

I also have the three recoup clusters in the northeast of the tree

When my life runs out but my darkness recharges, I can recoup life while my darkness takes hits for me. It's quite nice

I'm going to do everything in my power to find/chance a kaoms heart

I picked chaos dot because it doesn't really have a lot of useful spirit gems compared to most builds, imo

And the "run around while things die" style seems to work well with darkness as a mechanic, I feel

[chilly swan]

I actually just started with a similar strategy in HCSSF, but, I've been trying to theory craft around making chaos dot + poison work for clear. I'm starting to think that contagion and ED will be good enough for clear though and that really I need to figure out how to kill bosses.

Do you have a tree in mind for your build already?

I've been thinking Dark Effigy might be good enough for bosses; I was actually tempted to scale projectile damage and pierce chance on the tree so that ED would pierce and do more on the initial hit. (I'm not sure of proj damage affects dark effigy. I still don't understand totems yet.)

Here's the build I'm considering so far. I'm also curious if each stack of poison counts as its own debuff for dark effigy.

I'm assuming it doesn't because, if it did, pathfinder dark effigy would be absolutely nuts.

[muted birch]

Do you have a POB you can link me?

[dawn spire]

this is all I have so far. very barebones. doesn't even have skills or items https://pobb.in/kAIuPtxg1uV9

also @chilly swan

[chilly swan]

How does Event Horizon feel?

And, does it pull from Darkness?

[dawn spire]

It does not

and the drain is unnoticeable to me

[chilly swan]

74% inc chaos for 4 nodes is pretty nuts.

[chilly swan]

Doing recoup with kaom's is pretty clever, since your hp pool is so massive. It also makes me wonder if something like volatility could be done by stacking some armor with it. It's a really low payoff, esp for HC, but, still interesting.

[dawn spire]

oh, and the ascendancy tree

I picked the flame nodes because I was planning on going CI at first

so in reality I'd definitely drop two of the flame nodes and take the chaos res* one

[chilly swan]

You mean the double chaos res one

Somewhat unrelated but, I just ran into a magic pack of the cultist archers that make chaos flowers. Additional Projectiles on them is fucked.

[plain night]

If we drop the Rhoa with LS deadeye, then remove Deliberation from LS because of that. Which is the ideal support gem replacement for it, to recoup as much of the dmg as possible?

[reef shoal]

I honestly barely noticed the difference between deliberation and no deliberation while using LS

so I just kept it

[plain night]

I was actually thinking that tbh

[reef shoal]

depends on your attack speed, but test it yourself

[plain night]

yeah Ill have a play around with it

I find that if you constantly click rather than hold the mouse down then you can sort of get past the movement speed penalty somewhat. Was just seeing if there was a support that was close to as good instead though

[ornate anvil]

Is archmage still the best way to scale damage for all spells?

working on a frost bomb titan

[noble token]

good luck scaling mana on str side of the tree lol

[ornate anvil]

can go lich too im just asking if people still mandatory do archmage to scale spell hits

[gleaming kite]

nothing in this game is mandatory

[chilly swan]

Holy hell subterfuge mask is insane. It takes me from 50% evasion to 65% by itself.

[atomic halo]

good thing evasion and energy shield are such underpowered archetypes

[atomic halo]

#1┃build-planning

[stark kestrel]

I have a frostbomb titan that used deepest tower to scale. Had a plan to eventually do deepest tower plus crit scaling but lost interest in the character.

It did work fairly well, I just looked up guides from last season and adapted those.

[remote narwhal]

I didn't even use that.

But I'm a 81% block chance titan

Sundering for a shield and anvil for Amy with 3% max chance for block

I use deepest tower but no frost blomb.

Rake with life leech

Then herald of blood with crystals, splinter, armor explosion.

Fun interaction from it too and fun to watch the explosions.

[dawn spire]

Dark effigy scales with spell, totem, projectile, area, and chaos damage modifiers as far as I know.

[ornate anvil]

interesting you used the helm and looked for damage to low hp nodes?

[stark kestrel]

Yeah there's the cluster with finishing blows and stars aligned. It only specifies damage with hits so can be used with any hit. And offcourse the execute support gem. It does create a very circuitous route on the passive tree as all the other nodes you want for frost bomb are in the left and upper parts of the tree (aoe, ele dam, maybe crit and reduced skill effect). Still deepest tower is op and works fairly well. My biggest issue has been bossing damage.

[cedar solar]

Is there any skill or a support gem to get resistances other than using gears?

[brittle anvil]

nope

[chilly swan]

I didn't get to Dark Effigy but, I'm in A2 and am already feeling like poison is the wrong path for chayula darkness monk. I might end up trying the recoup idea you went with. Poison seems okay on paper, but, the spell hit from ED just isn't big enough to justify using contagion to spread it. It may be an okay way to propogate poison on a build like pconc or something though, (I've heard pconc lost a lot of clearing ability in 0.2, but, don't understand why)

[dawn spire]

Yeah when people say chaos dot, they don't typically mean poison. I died this morning in a1c to a wisp-buffed fungal abomination thing in the fungal caves. F that place.

Gonna reroll into the same build probs. I lost a nifty +2 chaos wand, unfortunately

ED has very low hit damage so it's not great for poison

[ornate anvil]

poison chayula is usually bow/crossbow

with gas arrow/grenade

[dawn spire]

I think Dreamcore made a gas grenade acolyte of chayula that scales poison

But fuck grenade mechanics. I can't stand em, personally

[chilly swan]

Yeah. I was specifically interested in the contagion spreading poisons mechanic. It makes it really easy to hit max poison stacks as mobs die.

[ornate anvil]

gas grenade and flashbang is fine

[chilly swan]

Though, there are just better mechanics for "when an enemy dies"

I also liked the idea of doing 1 big hit for a big poison, and then spreading it throughout a pack, and having its duration refresh.

Again, potentially stacking the same big hit multiple times throughout large packs. I still like the idea, I just don't know if Chayula monk is the play. (My thought was Reality Rending would be good)

[dawn spire]

Reality rending is definitely good for poison, but you'd need to hit often enough to have the stronger procs actually happen reliably

Oh, wait, is reality rending the %chance to add chaos? Or the added chaos based on darkness?

[chilly swan]

The first one. I was actually intending to take both of them though.

[dawn spire]

Flames of chayula also give you % added as chaos tho

For the purple flames

[chilly swan]

It's almost like contagion shield charge would just be better, lol.

[ornate anvil]

honestly didnt see much difference with the % added one in my playthrough

the darkness one you can definitely feel its basically two mings at max lvl

[dawn spire]

If you're not doing gas cloud poison, I'd recommend not doing reality rending and instead taking the flames for reliable damage

[ornate anvil]

but you lose auras

and plague is so good

[dawn spire]

Yeah, plaguebearer is nuts for poison

[chilly swan]

Yeah. I was struggling with that thought too.

I can't eat my cake and have it too 😛

[dawn spire]

Chaos dot acolyte sitting pretty though

[ornate anvil]

yep

for chaos dot it makes more sense

especially with how fast the totem hits to proc more % added chances

[dawn spire]

Spirit gems are meh for chaos dot. And then you get a kaoms and you're chillin

[chilly swan]

I'm going to continue with mine; I like the recoup idea and am kind of interested in getting some faster start of ES to see how that feels.

[dawn spire]

I'd probably go 5s darkness, two point flame, and two point for chaos res

For chaos dot, that is

[chilly swan]

I was thinking the same.

[dawn spire]

Flames of chayula has a neat interaction with supports that add spirit cost. Ie, they don't add spirit cost if they support flames of chayula

So you get a free vitality, clarity, etc

[chilly swan]

There's a bunch of the faster start to ES recharge nearby and, PoB says the start can get pretty low from a small investment. Like, 1.5s instead of 4s without taking damage.

[dawn spire]

I mean, I think if you're using darkness then ES is just a worse darkness

[chilly swan]

Why is it worse?

Because Darkness reservations are separate from one another?

[dawn spire]

Es needs X time with no damage taken yeah

Darkness will always come back after 5s no matter what

5s after each instance, that is

And es takes double chaos damage

[chilly swan]

I think you're right that it's worse but, it can be scaled more reliably as a layer of defense. And if darkness comes back to take a hit, that gives me more time for the ES to start recharging again.

[ornate anvil]

ngl this frost bomb titan shit isnt doing well in campaign

but idk if anything else thats not ED contagion is doing well

atleast in campaign

spell related

[dawn spire]

Yeah, I don't think a spell on warrior in the campaign is very good.

[chilly swan]

Are there any melee spells? 😄

[dawn spire]

It takes so long to get to nodes that give you damage

Melee is a tag exclusive to attacks, which are mutually exclusive to spells

[chilly swan]

You can have +10% fire damage at level 5 6!

[dawn spire]

Stop the presses

[chilly swan]

Technically you could just take only int nodes and level with Decaying Hex, but, you might as well just do contagion ED at that point.

[dawn spire]

Or rakestomp (:

[ornate anvil]

with lv 2 supports it gets easier but damn

[chilly swan]

Or build regen and block and just throw down flame walls and wait.

[wraith palm]

Darkness is certified ass outside of campaign. I tried real hard to make it work for endgame but it’s awful. I made a poison / chaos fs chonk, but used poison for clear rather than dps. That worked real good and was a nice aesthetic.

ES leech for chonk is significantly more sustainable than darkness

[chilly swan]

fs?

flicker strike?

[chilly swan]

I think for an attack based chonk, that's for sure true. But, if you're using spells then you don't really have mana leech.

[wraith palm]

Yeah flickerstrike sorry. And yeah spellcaster is definitely the way to go. I tried to make it work with crown of eyes and mom but big oof. Could only get to 2300ish mana. Big squishy haha.

A bit of extra as chaos simply does not outweigh the loss of spirit, at least for attack based builds

[chilly swan]

The benefit isn't extra chaos. It's the ehp.

[wraith palm]

I don’t think it’s worth either way for attack based. Gotta be able to clear, ehp doesn’t help if you get overrun anyway. I’m guessing you’re going spark or ed contagion or something?

[chilly swan]

contagion ed. And, yeah, for attack based builds I think the leech nodes are far superior. Or at least make a lot more sense with the current state of the game.

[dawn spire]

Yeah if the darkness aspect wasn't up to snuff, I was going to respec into an attack-based leech build and get like 34% of damage taken from mana before life/es on the tree

[worthy sun]

If I have pure phys damage base and let out a cold infused twister (50% gain), does painter's servant do anything to that twister? pob showing only cold dmg but i see ignites in game

[chilly swan]

I think my biggest concern is max hit. I don't mind if my damage is lower / bossing takes longer as long as I'm comfy.

Darkness, recoup, and ES recharge all help a lot with ehp. But, not sure how max hit will shake out.

Darkness helps a bit with max hit.

[dawn spire]

That 50% gain as cold should become 16.67% fire, cold, and lightning, essentially. As far as I know anyway

[worthy sun]

@dawn spire ok, i just get confused with the whole order of operations. i've read that gained damage can't be converted but when i saw a mob get ignited by a twister i was like wtf

[dawn spire]

Where did you read that gained cannot be converted?

[static torrent]

I'm 90% sure that's how that works, since it's basically also just conversion

But there's a distinction between conversion on the skill and anywhere else, they happen in two steps

So if the Damage as Extra happens on the skill itself, it can then be affected by Painter's Servant

[dawn spire]

Yeah, there's a two step process of converting/gaining from skills, then from items/other stuff

[ornate anvil]

How does damage as extra works?

[worthy sun]

Dreamcore's guide led me to believe that gain was always step 2, even it was from a skill

[dawn spire]

But if there was some skill that simultaneously added 50% as fire and converted 50% of fire to cold, you wouldn't deal any cold

[ornate anvil]

If skill does fire damage and i have chaos damage as extra, does increase chaos % does anything to it?

[junior mesa]

It'll affect the gained chaos, yeah. Gain as is like extra base damage of the given type

[dawn spire]

It is. The first step is from your skill (and support gems?). The second step is from items, passives, etc

[static torrent]

Damage gained as Extra works basically the same way as Conversion, it just doesn't remove the base damage it's affecting. So, the damage it is adding will be affected by the final damage type, ie Chaos if it was added as Chaos

Here's the ingame tooltips to explain some more

[dawn spire]

They made it a two step process so they didn't run into the design limitation in poe1 where conversions and gaining as had to go in a specific order to prevent infinite loops

[ornate anvil]

what happens if its chaos and then extra damage as chaos?

[dawn spire]

At least I assume that's why they did it

[ornate anvil]

doesnt 2 dip i assume

[dawn spire]

You get more chaos for your chaos

[junior mesa]

If you do 100 chaos damage and have 10% gain as chaos, you'll do 110 chaos

[ornate anvil]

and then that gets the increased?

[static torrent]

They changed the role of Conversion in general, I don't believe it was due that design limitation

[junior mesa]

This was confirmed by then on the forums. Can get the link if you want

[static torrent]

But if they did say it, then never mind

[junior mesa]

Or rather it was confirmed that the ordering was enforced

I guess I misunderstood

[static torrent]

Damage as extra and conversion happens before increases, affecting the base damage, then it's affected by increases afterwards, so no, it doesn't double dip

[ornate anvil]

consider 100 chaos damage, 50% increase, 10% as extra
it's 100 -> 110 (extra) -> 165 (increase)
or 100 -> 150 (increase) -> 165 (extra) -> 247 (increase again)

[dawn spire]

The ordering in poe1 is strict, yes. Poe2 doesn't have that in large part due to the new two-step process for conversions and gaining as

[ornate anvil]

i assume the 1st

[static torrent]

As I said, it doesn't double dip

[ornate anvil]

ah

[dawn spire]

You get 110 chaos damage and that gets increased by 50%

[static torrent]

Conversion also doesn't inherit the prior damage modifiers, unlike PoE1, it's just changed in general

[dawn spire]

But the order doesn't matter. Could also do 100 base, increase by 50%, then add 10% of that and get the same result

[worthy sun]

Ok so in the case of a 100 phys damage twister gaining 50% dmg as cold while wearing painter's servant. We finish step 1 with 100 phys bc step 1 is only skill based conversion. Then at the beginning of step 2 we gain 50 cold. Then what do the gloves do? convert that 50 cold? what about the elemental damage gain on the gloves themselves?

[ornate anvil]

how much darkness can you get at 100?

1200 or something like that?

base 100, 8 per level -> 900, 30% with the small passive nodes

1170

[dawn spire]

(100+(99*8))x1.3 = ~1160 darkness

[ornate anvil]

o 99

[dawn spire]

Idk if it's 8 darkness per level or 8 darkness per level past 1

Could be 100

[ornate anvil]

58% as extra chaos

is that even good actually

[dawn spire]

If you can stay at full darkness, yeah

[ornate anvil]

it does damage to darkness before ES or the other way around?

[dawn spire]

But also needs to be weighed against the 4 ascendancy points, giving up your spirit, etc

Darkness is reserved before life, mana, and es are lost yes

[ornate anvil]

oh man

cant even proctect it

https://poedb.tw/pt/Mings_Heart

i was wrong

it's potentially a mings heart lol

do i even attempt this

might as well

[dawn spire]

Well I wouldn't go off of the value at level 100

[ornate anvil]

lets see

lich is 30% more damage right

ye 30% more damage costs 3% ES

so at lvl 50 im about 1:1 if im full darkness

[dawn spire]

For only two points. And lich also has unholy might and unholy might magnitude

[ornate anvil]

man

you get all that plus you get to keep your spirit

is there any hope for chayula at all

[wraith palm]

Eldritch battery and mind over matter prevents that, you can keep darkness if mana is the only thing taking damage. You have to take both for it to work though unfortunately.

[ornate anvil]

it can fit but

you arent tied to that as lich and you get even more bonuses for going for that with unholy might

30% + 4% magnitude per 100 mana, considering 8k mana which idk if its reasonable you get 96% as extra chaos

• the 30% more damage from eldritch empowerment

[chilly swan]

They're aware that the play rate of chayula is low, so I would expect a buff in August.

Honestly, if they doubled the amount of chaos you get per unreserved darkness, would that even be enticing enough?

Like, even then, it's a hard sell because the loss of spirit is such a significant downside. I'd rather it be left as-is, but you get 50% less spirit or something.

[dawn spire]

I'd rather they make darkness way better as a mechanic. Make it worth losing your spirit for the right builds

Maybe halve the chaos damage your darkness takes. More base darkness per level. Something.

Instead of it removing all your spirit, turn it into a spirit skill.

Cost: All your spirit
Reservation delay is now a duration that can be modified with fast forward

[sterile spade]

Is this build viable for T16 maps and atlas bosses?
https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/Blood_Witcher-2339/DemonRu?i=22&search=class%3DInfernalist%26sort%3Ddps

[chilly swan]

My Zarka has 3 +2 chaos wands for sale. Just thought of this comment O_O

[chilly swan]

I just realized, you can leech mana with spells via mana drain. 😛

[wraith palm]

Hahaha dps mana drain

[chilly swan]

Funnily enough, with dots I sometimes don't have enough things to do in boss fights. I can recast ED for a tiny bit more dps but, usually chaos bolt is my highest dps. I picked up mana drain and am surprised at how good it feels to stay topped off on mana. It enables Zenith as well which is pretty nice.

[covert karma]

can someone help me build?

[real fjord]

Hey All! I'm getting close to the endgame with my smith of kitava and I'm looking for a good build guide to follow. I do have a lot of budget (60-70 divs to put on it) and I'd like something fast if it exists lol

First few videos I've watched look like the mapping is quite slow....anything relatively quick on smith of kitava possible? Ty!

[junior mesa]

I think the artillery ballista build was pretty well-regarded?

[real fjord]

I'll look this one up thanks!

[median wharf]

@subtle musk link ur rake stomp

[subtle musk]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/6403a3da-e9a4-4743-932d-12fe3877bb2c/builds/d1b26c21-42f3-40f2-ab0d-074305da645d

there are prob some minor changes you could make with a higher budget though.
i wrote it as a budget guide.

with higher budget i would greed for more attack speed modifiers on gear
probably would get all the resists i need from normal gear and swap the rings/amulet to be more offensive (as in higher strength values)
and would just generally ensure you are getting top tier stats instead of only ok ones for each piece.

or save your divs for another build and just go budget like its written.

let me know if you have any questions.

[wraith palm]

does anyone know if the gain x life per enemy killed is for kills with taht weapon only or is that global? want to know if it get that with unarmed attacks and cast on skills. i dont have a staff with that suffix to test hehehe

[atomic halo]

there is only 1 stat on trade

so it must be global either way

if the weapon one was local

you would see two mods with that text

[lethal sundial]

hey,
Anyone knows what's the ideal spread of skeletons for summoner ? like, 2 cleric, 4 ranged, 4 melee ?

[pseudo lotus]

any new player want help with a build?

[stark kestrel]

Oh yeah, I leveled with frost bomb and only when I got my second ascendancy did it start feeling better. Once I got deepest tower equipped it started humming during mapping.

[prisma vortex]

Does anyone know any other skill except Whirling Slash that can be used with the tanky versions of either Smith of Kitava or Lich?
I really don't like this small "preperation" that Whirling Slash needs before each map. It feels very clunky in several situations like when someone opens maps where you start in the middle and mobs jump at you right when you enter, or in any occasion where there is a phase in a fight or when for any reason you step out of the cyclone with mobs around..

Any other skill which can be used with similar success? Without preparation ofc

[dawn spire]

I'm confused by your question. I'm not quite sure we're working off the same premises here. All classes can use all skills and gear. Smith of Kitava doesn't have any stipulations on what skills/weapons he can use. Neither does lich.

I'm not sure how strong whirling slash is, but I imagine you can do pretty much any build on lich or Smith with solid results.

[median wharf]

i think thats what he meant, some gimmicky set up to get similar results

[quaint wave]

Hello everyone, I created a build, here is the link to it and a video with gameplay. Please let me know your opinion and what can be added or changed.
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/27b4b5cb-cbb4-4b27-bc68-37463a0bff61/builds/e1b7696d-5b2d-46ea-ba90-e866dd3528fa

[solar harbor]

How does "Sustainable Practices" work?
If i have 90% evasion do i then get 27% reduced elemental damage taken?
or is it like if i have 3000 evasion rating i take 900 less elemental damage?

[brittle anvil]

lol what are those heralds

and your staff has 0 accuracy

[prisma vortex]

This is not a general question, I know any class can use any skill.
This is about a SPECIFIC build, which is the CI tanky version of Whirling Slash and I have seen it on Smith and Lich.

I don't know if you are aware of this build, there are several video guides for it.

I am specifically asking if the extreme tankiness of the mentioned build can be combined with some other skill except Whirling Slash with similar results, because Whirling Slash needs some kind of preparation to work EVERY time

[quaint wave]

Herald of ice and Herald of thunder

[quaint wave]

i have 2773 accuracy

[brittle anvil]

why off-element infusion? and you need accuracy ON the staff, for Amazon's Penetrate passive

[quaint wave]

I take cold infusion on Herald of Thunder so that enemies freeze faster and Herald of Ice activates more often. On Herald of Ice, I take lightning infusion so that enemies are shocked more often and Herald of Thunder activates more frequently. (maybe it doesn't work this way)

[brittle anvil]

yeah i guess that's fine, but you really need accuracy on you weapon if you use Penetrate, or even socket it with accuracy runes

[quaint wave]

ok

[dawn spire]

I see, my b. I am not aware of said build

[quaint wave]

I tried to switch to a tree and gain more accuracy, but then there would be much less damage. I think I might change my ascendancy altogether.

[dawn spire]

According to the silks of veneration wiki page (an item which has a similarly-worded mod), it looks like it uses the armour damage reduction formula, but inputs your evasion rating and outputs a damage reduction vs elemental damage instead of physical

@solar harbor

But that explanation has no source so I can't confirm it

[brittle anvil]

no you need accuracy mod ON the weapon, the quaterstaff

[quaint wave]

understood

[heady otter]

Hey guys, I just finished a play through of Diablo 2 Resurrected and now I decided to try PoE, since I saw it's free on Steam and PoE 2 will get a full release soonish. Can you help me with builds please. I used a website called maxroll gg for my Diablo 2 builds and I loved how they were sorted by S tier, A tier etc. That is not the case for PoE though and since I consider myself casual player, who has limited time to play video games and only enjoys the campaigns for the most part, I would love if someone can tell me what are S tier builds in this game, so I don't waste extra time and get to enjoy the game straight away

Thanks in advance 🫶🏻

[steady breach]

you are in the wrong channel for poe1

and poe2 soon ish is like early next year, maybe

[heady otter]

Oh, I'm so sorry

[median wharf]

🥹 also i like how brave you are thinking poe2 is gonna get a full release soonish

[static torrent]

PoE2 will not get a full release until at the very least December of this year, according to Jonathan, the game director. Many are expecting it to be later than that, but regardless it's at least 6 months until the earliest possible release date.

[median wharf]

i guess im looking forward to the next league, if it is december, we should be expecting the bulk of their testing to finish next

[wooden rose]

hey all, if I have the deepest tower causing enemies near me to count as low life, will the finality node (120% damage with hits against low life enemies) count for totem damage?

[static torrent]

Next league is expected in around 2 months.

[median wharf]

Hoping for more than just 1 new class🤞

[static torrent]

I wouldn't personally expect more than one class to be released, but there will naturally be content besides it.

[steady breach]

the 1 class also comes with a new weapon type, full set of active skills and likely a bunch of new support skills

and the weapon and gems just increase all the possible options for all other classes too

[hybrid garnet]

Hi
there is any good spark build under 20div ?

[subtle vigil]

hype for flails at some point

[static torrent]

Once Templar is added

[obtuse crypt]

any fun broken / easy builds that someone can suggest (non invoker / huntress please lol)

[eternal vale]

hey. after reading some tooltips i found this. does that mean that bleed dmg is not affected by armor? or does it only mean bleed doesnt benefit from the 20% increase from fully broken armor

[austere reef]

Bleed is calculated off of the hit’s pre-mitigation damage. So armour or resistances of any type has no effect on the calculation of stuff like bleed ignite or poison

[eternal vale]

yeah that would be 15% if im not wrong. but is this dmg midigated by armor ?

[static torrent]

Armour only affects Hits, it doesn't mitigate damage over time

[eternal vale]

ok ty that answers my quesion

[unkempt rampart]

so if I understood this text correctly, the benefits of the armor also apply to animated weapons you created or do they only apply to the minions created by it?

[atomic halo]

#1┃build-planning

[waxen pike]

I have a full week and I really wanna come back and just slam POE2 for a week; I was playing LS Amazon and just had made it to maps and quite for LE -

What should I play? Wanna do something fun to wrap out before PoE 1 league start

[snow storm]

this might be a dum question, but lemme ask anyway xD
does the Idle Hands full mana effect still work while on Blood Magic (no mana)?

[vital bison]

So I got super lucky first map back and dropped a tabula rasa, but I feel like as an invoker I'm uniquely poorly positioned to use it - should I sell and get myself some goated weapon perhaps?

[gleaming kite]

that or start working towards an end-game build that uses it

[cobalt pollen]

mana and life are seperate

you would need a specific line telling you that life counts as mana or something like that

[unreal sierra]

you have no mana so you can't be at full/low

[pearl sluice]

if you use resonance would it work for frenzy charges or its power charges only because that is what it says?

[atomic halo]

its power charges only because that is what it says

[lavish sapphire]

Does anyone know whenever "summoned" mean "alive" or "eat spirit"?

[woven depot]

I’m 99% sure it includes things like inferalists hound

[lavish sapphire]

It does, actually

[dawn spire]

As long as it's a persistent minion that is active, it counts whether it's alive or dead

[bright haven]

Hey, I'm trying to build an elemental sundering build. Thinking of going for yoke of suffering OR beacon of Azis for my amulet. Which of these two would ya'll run?

[median wharf]

Are u actually doing equal amounts of all types? Then azis

[bright haven]

Yeah, kinda

I suppose the ignore elemental resistances is just unbeatable

[median wharf]

Boss dependent ofc, but 75 on all 3 is a lot to beat through other methods

[green dust]

Hey,
the Muster support gem states:

*Supported Minions deal 7% more damage for each different type of persistent Minion you have summoned.
What does different type refer to?

• Is it just refering to the gem type? (eg skeletal warrior vs skeletal mage)
• Is it refering to stuff like "undead", "construct", "humanoid" etc? (eg all skeletons count as 1 type)
• Do summons of summons count?
  Has anyone done any tests? I cannot find any info on the wiki.

[wide bison]

Anyone got an elementalist build plan

[foggy plover]

Is there a go to HC build for deadeye? or is it too squish?

Hc ssf particularly

[drowsy aurora]

hi can ayone send me a lvling pob, thinking about starting blade vortex occultist/assasin/pathfinder

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[static torrent]

This is the PoE2 build planning channel, the PoE1 channels are lower down

[stark kestrel]

Spectre counts as 1 (even if you have multiple), each skeleton counts as 1 (so if you have warrior and mage, you get two additional counts), and each companion counts as 1.

[green dust]

ok ty, sad that the spectres only count as one though :c

[stark kestrel]

I think two companions also just count as 1 different type. But I'm not sure of that

[chilly swan]

Deadeye is the 2nd most popular character in hcssf right now. With enough dps, you don't need defense. 😉

[chilly swan]

As far as what's popular, wind serpent's fury and lightning spear are pretty dominant.

[atomic halo]

dps somewhere means more flexibility to get defences somewhere else

[chilly swan]

Also, tailwind and wind ward aren't as good as in poe 1, but, are still a great defensive layer when paired with Evasion.

[atomic halo]

isnt wind ward better in 2

just as a consequence of the content you're going to be running

[chilly swan]

Maybe you're right; tailwind is objectively worse though.

Does anyone know what happens when ice shot pierces? Does it still create the shards, or does that only happen for the last hit?

[rigid kayak]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/9221

how would i get es restoration without taking eternal youth>

?

[stone willow]

Thinking of starting Divine Ire Totems next League. What Ascendancys would fit best?

[atomic halo]

#1┃build-planning

[compact wren]

Can someone give me an advice on LS and cast on crit?
Here is the problem: I'm currently running lvl 18 cast on crit, but I also heavily invested into int on tree, just to run high level cast on crit.
Question: does ist actually worth running high level of crit? From what I've seen on poedb, the gain between level 15 and 18 is marginal.

[median wharf]

btw y did they take out the poe in front of 1 and 2, seems to cause a lot more confusion

[static torrent]

It just says 1 and 2 now, I guess people don't notice that part

Plus it's still under the Path of Exile 2 Help/Discussion categories, if it needs further explanation

[atomic halo]

1. people mix them up because they dont read the names in the first place, not because the name is confusing
2. it's cleaner and shows info more efficiently

[static torrent]

But also, yeah, people did that before as well

Now that PoE1 is getting a new league, I guess a lot of people are hopping in and not checking where they're posting, happens a lot unfortunately

[atomic halo]

didnt we say we'd move the poe1 channels on top for 3.26

[static torrent]

Not in public afaik

[atomic halo]

well yeah

[median wharf]

😂

[chilly swan]

Is there a way to get a bow skill to pierce all targets?

I thought that's what pierce support did, but, it appears to just pierce a single target

[static torrent]

Pierce very specifically states that it makes the skill Pierce 'an' enemy

[chilly swan]

Someone in here said reading is the hardest pinnacle boss.

[static torrent]

But there are a few options, such as these (just randomly grabbing them, not saying they're actually good or anything like that)

[idle goblet]

Yeah, I just noticed that "pierce AN enemy" as well

Is it always been like that ?

[static torrent]

Yes

[chilly swan]

I think it was like that in poe 1 as well actually, lol. It just never seemed to matter in that game to me.

Except maybe for spark players?

[idle goblet]

In my defense, i never played poe1

[static torrent]

It pierces multiple targets, but still a finite amount in PoE1

[chilly swan]

Interestingly, It makes the Pierces All Targets text on staggering palm actually pretty decent.

[static torrent]

In general, if you want Pierce to go through everything, you need something that specifies that it will do so. Otherwise, it will only Pierce a finite number of enemies.

[chilly swan]

Yeah. I've been wanting to mess around with pierce + ricochet because ricochet seems to allow chaining to the same target that it pierced.

Just to be clear then, getting 100% pierce on the tree would give me a single instance of pierce?

[static torrent]

100% would allow you to guarantee a Pierce on one enemy, yes

Apparently, it can go higher and affect progressively more targets, but I've not tested this myself

[chilly swan]

In theory then, 125% would be a single pierce, and then a 25% chance to pierce an additional target

...And then there's the "Arrows Pierce an additional target" node O_O. Not sure how that factors in but, I assume it just adds an additional 100%.

[static torrent]

Effectively, yes, should work like that

[strong root]

Are ronarray's builds 👍 or 💩

[chilly swan]

It depends. If you're in HCSSF, probably not a great choice; if you're in trade, go nuts.

[dusky wadi]

should i put minion instability on raging spirits or unearth?

[bright quiver]

Not sure if this is the right chat to ask but just curious what is the best ascendency for LS?

[median wharf]

de

[chilly swan]

Is it me or does the chain from lightning arrow chain from the initial target even if it pierces?

I would have expected it to pierce, then when it hits another target or a wall, it would chain from the impact, but, (and maybe this is just the vfx) it appears to stretch lightning from its position of impact a huge distance back to the pierced target, then continue chaining.

[idle goblet]

I think it should chain after every hit

Its not the arrow itself chaining, but it fires chaining zotz (beams) when it hits

[median wharf]

Anyone cooked with the new lightning guiding palm?

🥹i have that and a 4% lightning extra atd, wondering what would use scepter offhand that can make the extra lightning work

Maybe as an extra shock or just adding to a pure lightning build (not ls)

[chilly swan]

Interesting. It seems like every other arrow I've seen that has an effect on hit will only perform the effect on the last hit. For instance, Snipe only explodes if it doesn't pierce.

I haven't tested ice shot (because I don't have a character that can test it), but, I presume it would behave the same way as snipe / stormcaller.

[chilly swan]

Does anyone know if electrocuting arrow will build up more electrocution if an enemy has multiple rods in them?

[stark kestrel]

If you could support the shrine buffs it would be much easier to build around. Right now it looks like mostly a mini sacred flame so you can have added damage for your build with a sceptre. Kinda nice for low-mid investment builds but not really something you can build around.

[median wharf]

https://streamable.com/lxwltr

im here rn, need to make this better

https://poe2.ninja/pob/926d

any insights?

[stark kestrel]

What are you using with the mjolnir? Can't really tell based on your poe2.ninja

[median wharf]

the new lightning shrine scepter

[stark kestrel]

No, I mean with the thundergod's wrath trigger spell from mjolnir

[median wharf]

2 warps

[stark kestrel]

One thing I could think off with all those enemies getting shocked around you (not sure if its from the shrine?), you might be able to use lightning conduit? But pretty sure that spell just sucks.

[median wharf]

yeah conduit got nerfed hard

plus i have no shock mag and spell damage

[stark kestrel]

Yeah, I don't really have any other idea

*ideas

[austere thistle]

if I allocate all these passives that give increased armour breack %, up to a minimum of 100%, this would make the node that breaks 50% of armour on heavy stunning 100%?

[stark kestrel]

Speaking off the new unique's, I've been thinking about using Adonia's Ego in a blood mage spark build. The plan is to use sacrifice and minions in the off-hand to quickly get to max power charges and consume them with adonia's. Then use the crit spark with coc arc build as a template. It looks like I can get the +3 skill lvl and about 80%-90% more elemental damage from adonia's. Seems like a good chunky amount of damage. I'd scale life, grab rathpith globe in offhand for moar damage and just spark away. Anything I might have missed with this idea?

[pearl sluice]

Look up holiday on YouTube just copy what u can from his build

Has anybody cooked up with the ice storm staff or the quiver?

[idle goblet]

As far as I understood, just one of the "pierce, fork, split, chain effects" gets applied with an hit, and they have a priority, not sure if thats the one i listed tho. So if you have both pierce and fork, for example, it should pierce the first target then fork if it hits a second target (if you have 100% pierce)

But LA does not chain , on hit it fires a blast that chains on hitting further enemies

Fire a charged arrow at the target. On hitting an enemy or wall, the arrow will fire Chaining Lightning beams at nearby enemies.

I'd expect it to fire that beam with every hit

[steel lynx]

can fire mage work? dont need top tier dmgj ust enough to not brick my char lol

[stark kestrel]

Does anybody know if Pinnacle of Power from Adonia's also allows all elemental damage to chill? In the description it says "the ability to apply elemental ailments with other damage types" (chill is included here), but in the blue detailed description it doesn't mention chill at all. I'm curious which one is wrong.

[foggy plover]

Has anyone made a smith build with the trigger fire spell? I'm thinking of making a build based around that

[dawn spire]

Incinerate pathfinder is pretty solid. You can make most things work, though I guess it depends on your definition of "work"

[median wharf]

👌i see yeah, most people go for titan i guess. Maybe i will try to go for a more defensive helmet, since i can prob afford to lose some skill speed

[chilly swan]

Snipe releases an explosion on crit, and stormcaller will call down a bolt on the enemy a few moments after it's hit. Neither of these effects occur if they are piercing their target.

I'd like to test ice shot as well, because LA appears to create beams from every enemy hit.

[chilly swan]

I've had trouble finding a good way to scale the fire spell. The only use I've found is to constantly make a solar orb and put every font support imaginable on it.

Which is kind of nice in ssf as it acts as a constant source of rage, which frees up a lot of points to only scale max rage instead of rage generation.

[idle goblet]

Stormcaller arrow has the effect "where it lands" not "on hit"

[chilly swan]

That's a good point.

[lucid glade]

I don't get it, I unreserved everything but it still shows 210/245, am I missing something ? I toggled off everything

Trying to switch from Rhoa to tame beast (got a boar), the beast costs 39% of spirit and I'm missing 35 somewhere

[hard pumice]

i wanna make a sorc what build should i run?

[pearl sluice]

U think it’s possible to make it to when we warp ball lightnings come out with the mjolner?

[median wharf]

im using ball lightning and warp now, i think it works

[pearl sluice]

With the titan or a diff class

[median wharf]

smith

[pearl sluice]

Can u send a video of u clearing a map cause im thinking about switch

Switching*

[median wharf]

https://streamable.com/v3epsp

that was a breach i did earlier, there are definitely still problems with the build

[hard pumice]

what sorc build should i play

[pearl sluice]

Bro that build looks like the best dopamine hit ever

[pearl sluice]

How’s the bossing?

[median wharf]

i can get by map bosses ok

didnt bother attempting pinnacles

the main problem with this build is survival

like i randomly die still

[pearl sluice]

Wouldn’t Amazon also be good for the physical damage?

[median wharf]

umm its weaker defenses

but can leech lightning damage

i dont rly know, im not gutting my amazon for it tho

also thats a lot of stats to put on an amazon

yeah ngl i feel like amazon is just gonna get one shotted

[hard pumice]

what sorc build is good or fun this season

[pearl sluice]

Frost bolt snakepit

[pearl sluice]

Yeah ur right

[lethal bear]

i did ice chronomancer with massive cast speed and slows.. try just a basic "freezing shard" staff.. almost one skill build if you dont count the freeze bombs on bosses

[hard pumice]

wait actually?

idk i just wanna have fun but actually be able to play the game

[lethal bear]

i was cleaning t15 with almost nothing able to get to me, also had 12k shield with the rewind and stop time.. it passed 4th trial too

[hard pumice]

what about lvling tho

i mean i can buy any unis i need

[lethal bear]

you can just rush the ice damage and elemental damage to win early, then later you get the curse/slows and finally end with shields at 60+ until 90 or whatever

[hard pumice]

bet

u got a link or smth

[lethal bear]

actually do have pics of all builds i try in a folder haha

[hard pumice]

ooo wait fire

cause i also need like gear and skill etx

etc

[lethal bear]

like i said i was basically spamming the freezing shard skill.. the +50% more* cast speed with everything having cast speed(rings, amulet, staff..) makes it cast 4 times per second
i was using the fork in the freezing shard also

not a leveling item but this freezing shard.. obviously this isnt an easy staff to get directly but it can be like 3-10 div since staff arent meta

ill just end with this.. its a chronomancer so you do what they usually do..like have blasphemy and temporal chain(i had enfeeble too in it..) mixed with 20% slow on chrono tree

[stark kestrel]

I saw in someplaces that Choir of the storm is nerfed somehow, does anybody know what the change is?

[chilly swan]

Evasion feels so useless against bosses. It feels like every hit is a slam / must be rolled

I'm at 90% evasion, and feel like it's incredible for everything except bosses :/ Is this when you take acrobatics?

[static torrent]

The Hits that you can roll are those that Evasion is actually effective on (without Acrobatics, that would make it affect all Hits), but it works on an entropy-based system, so with 90% chance to Evade - assuming that's what it is against bosses, enemies can have different accuracy values if I'm not mistaken - you'll still be hit every 1 in 10 times on average.

For this reason, most will also use Energy Shield or some other layer of defence to keep you safe against the hits that do go through.

[chilly swan]

Is evasion less effective the more you have? Like Armor? Or is there just the entropy system?

[chilly swan]

AFAIK, Armor mitigates less if the hit is bigger, and each point becomes less effective the more you have of it. And I knew Evasion had the entropy system but, I can't remember if each point of evasion contributes less toward that system the more you have of it... If that makes sense...

[static torrent]

You are right about Armour, Evasion just has the Entropy system, I don't believe the size hit matters outside of any accuracy bonuses that might be specific to an enemy skill - which may not even exist, too lazy to check.

The wiki covers the entropy system in more detail here, I'd be quoting it if I tried to explain anyway

[chilly swan]

It looks like each point of evasion is less effective, if I'm understanding right. Since it calculates "chance to evade"

[static torrent]

The calculation is as follows

[chilly swan]

Interesting. So, blind is pretty good.

That formula is actually really useful; blind is even better then if you take acrobatics, since your evasion will matter less, but you could still lower the attacker's accuracy by about 38% if you get every blind effectiveness node on the tree.

[median wharf]

am i missing something? how come 2% hp soulcores are 2divs now

[keen spindle]

hey guys, which socketables are now best in slot for tounge spear? running crt dmg socketables atm - LS rake

[stark kestrel]

Does anybody know if Yoke of suffering is additive or multiplicative with regular % increased damage? It specifically states that enemies with ailments take increased damage. Which sounds like a seperate source of it and would make it multiplicative (ie. more damage).

[sterile spade]

Hey guys

Is this build able to do late game maps? (T15-16)

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/fb7xf04c

[gaunt ether]

with the new unique quiver, im assuming if youre shooting 5 projectiles per attack, each proj has a chance to be different?

or does it select one and all projectiles are whatever it chooses

[gaunt ether]

i dont see why not

theres not many builds that cant, bossing is usually the struggle for builds

[median wharf]

how smart is it to drop temporal chains from my blasphemy and only keep enfeeble. im not rly sure how much damage its preventing for me tbh.

[median wharf]

what kind of bug is this, it counts double?

[pearl sluice]

Wym?

[austere reef]

The dex rune

It looks like it’s counting as +10 for all equipment (since sceptres fall under that category) and +10 for sceptres… weird

[median wharf]

right, now i feel bad for taking it off

[warped viper]

if i give my merc windscream for 2 curse limit, but he has only 1 curse, and i have 1 curse, butmy own curse limit is 1
then my curse overwrites his curse and the mob still only gets 1 curse total, right?

[dawn heath]

neat, wonder if any of the others are bugged like that

[gloomy gazelle]

Would you say it's worth it to try and mind a Megalomanic Jewel that gets 2 or even three 'Natural Energies'?

Or is it more worth to find a jewel with only 20% Increased Maximum energy shield and Magnitude of Ignite?

[bright quiver]

whats the best build for stacking rarity on budget?

[median wharf]

Ls

[plucky geyser]

combination for this pls?

[atomic halo]

guilt envy paranoia

https://poe2db.tw/Long_Distance_Relationship#Anoint

poe2db has all the anoints

[pearl sluice]

I never really played a spell caster before. I wanted to full send twink leveling for a frost sorc. Anyone got an idea what gems I would need for early 5 links? I just have no idea what I am doing. Idea is to play full cold. Frost bomb, frost bolt, cold snap etc

[modern cloud]

Could someone tell me what happens if you have Guard active from Olroth's Resolve Ultimate Life Flask and one of your charms with Guard also procs and vice versa? I am planning to toy around with the passive tree with some numbers and was curious on this interaction.

[foggy plover]

Hello! Any warriors out there that had any luck with Heat of the Forge (cast fire spell on melee hit? )

[median wharf]

Detonate dead, more meme than good

[foggy plover]

Yeah I saw that one. I was thinking whirling assault for fireballs etc with the molten support

[gloomy gazelle]

Anyone know if the Chaos damage that this ring modifies Ignite to do is effected increases and reductions to chaos damage?

[small bronze]

How exactly does the interaction work between Lightning Arrow and Lightning Rod? i.e. if I have 20 Lightning Rods thrown on the ground and I Lightning Arrow an enemy standing on top of them all. That arrow now bounces back and forth a trillion times (presuming they're standing still). Which skill determines the main DPS in that interaction? Is it Lightning Arrow bouncing back and forth causing its own DPS, or does Lightning Arrow make its initial whack and then Lightning Rod determines all the bouncy DPS?

[atomic halo]

no

you deal fire damage

by the time the ring kicks in that's on the monster side after your skill calculations have already run their course

[modest moth]

Totem bros - what is looking good tgis league? Are we all just playing storm burst again?

[modest moth]

Wrong POE sorry

[analog seal]

hey guys, does the new rune "farull's rune of of hunt" work on totem damage?

[inland ore]

Can anyone help me with my build? I’m a lightning spear huntress and I’m trying to do lightning and cold primarily but I keep breaking my build

[median wharf]

Post ur stuff

Pretty hard to ef up ls

[dusty lance]

Anybody know what good gear I should use to speed run the campaign on a new character

[median wharf]

look up rake stomping ground

[inland ore]

I’m bad! This is my first character on poe2, I just started a few days ago. My ls just doesn’t seem to do much and anytime I change it it feels worse xD