2┃build-planning

[knotty spruce]

nice but warrior starts on the node on the left of that so a decent bit of nodes are spent on movin there

[mortal cloak]

There’s probably a way better version

You could take some tanky and elemental or attack damage stuff to get to the lightning stuff

And crit

[languid kindle]

Do you guys find it better to play poe2 with mouse or wasd

[dawn spire]

Wasd

[mortal cloak]

Wasd by far

BUT

I will say

I got spoiled by tempest flurry and being able to drink and vape while I moved with just mouse 😂

[dawn spire]

Wasd only feels good because you can move and use abilities at the same time. Without that, mouse 1000%

[mortal cloak]

It’s been an adjustment not using mouse to move again after the tf POTCG nerf haha

[languid kindle]

Wasd also better than controller?

[mortal cloak]

I’ve heard mostly good things about controller from those who use it

D3 controller is 1000000% better than PC I can’t stomach pc d3 at all after getting used to console version. Best console ARPG ever.

I’d try it just to see you never know you might fall in love with controller set up. ESP if you use controller and mouse on pc so you get the best of both worlds?

[knotty spruce]

man using lightning conduit with spell on hit would be cool but wouldint really work lol

[mortal cloak]

I need to find somewhere that people are doing a build like mine so I can figure out how to make it better 😂

The invoker channel is dead

[dawn spire]

Try poe ninja

[mortal cloak]

I hate the guide sites, I prefer being able to discuss directly with people

[dawn spire]

Looking at similar builds is nice for inspiration

[knotty spruce]

lmao found 2 people on it using mjölner

[dawn spire]

Very rarely you can even DM those people ingame and ask questions

[mortal cloak]

Is that an actual unique now ? Or ?

[knotty spruce]

yeah

[mortal cloak]

Yeaaa that’s the nice part but also I don’t wanna harass them lol

[mortal cloak]

I’d rather engage with people who are purposely in a theorycraft channel ya feel

[dawn spire]

If I was one of two people using mjolnir and someone dmed me I'd feel like a celebrity

But yeah, to each their own

[knotty spruce]

sadly neither is a warrior

[mortal cloak]

The gemling channel was nuts with theorycraft all EA league but I can’t find an invoker channel that’s active yet

[dawn spire]

Just use the monk channel

It's mostly invokers anyway

[mortal cloak]

Which one? I went to the invoker channel and it’s dead pretty much. Just people complaining it’s not as strong as lightning spear 😁

[knotty spruce]

acolyte aint a real acendancy as far as i know lmao

[loud geyser]

Hmmm Smith of Kitava has trigger fire spell on hit node....

[static plinth]

What mace skill would yall use with Nebuloch

[gloomy rain]

Does Wind Dancer only trigger when you actually take damage, or will it happen if you evade a hit too?

[knotty spruce]

true havent seen much at all done with it hto

[static plinth]

Is Sunder good without it's guaranteed crit gimmick?

[mortal cloak]

You could almost copy my build but just switch storm wave with a mace lightning skill. It would be half decent at least.

[knotty spruce]

meh thik i might just level a new character and go somethin completly difirent

or just wait n see if last epoch s2 is any good. thanks a bunch yall

[mortal cloak]

Charged staff, herald of ice and thunder, build for freeze shock and electrocute, combat frenzy resonance for charges and then whatever else you can fit in for damage

I haven’t tried LE since like 1.5 yrs back but the combat just wasn’t near as good as POE to me.

The crafting and gear is better though and the last patch I played they added the uniques you have to level up

I might give it another shot tbh because Poe2 has me fiending for better loot drops and that and crafting and like the two things LE actually does better than poe2 lol

[dawn spire]

Evading and being hit are mutually exclusive. It will proc when you block a hit though

[mystic osprey]

is there a spear type with an implicit accuracy rating?

[gloomy rain]

That's too bad. Seemed like a decent alternative to put Lacerate on now that I know that it doesn't work on Herald of Blood. But I think I'd rather build around not taking hits rather than taking them.

[dawn spire]

According to poedb, no

[languid kindle]

Guys a question I’m following the fubguns gas arrow Amazon build and I’m on mobilityics but the treee skill there showcases the deadeye skill tree and not huntress idk what to do would love for advice

[dawn spire]

I like to put blind and maim on wind dancer. Helps prevent swarming and dying

[dawn spire]

That guide was made before the starting area of huntress was out. Look for similar nodes that help your build. I feel like there should be a more updated one. Maybe on maxroll

[mortal cloak]

At what point do you build for defense? I’m still gaining levels fast at 82, doesn’t seem like there’s much point worrying about dying now with 3 tries in maps and all that until you’re like level 90-95?

I’ve died 81 times at level 82, not a small amount but ingame I see people saying 200-500 deaths so 😂

[dawn spire]

Assuming you want my non-hcssf answer, it's whenever I start dying too much

[gloomy rain]

Would be kind of funny to put Lacerate and See Red on it. Like saying "Please swarm me more"

[mortal cloak]

Oh yea lol I meant to ask if you were HC always/this league

[dawn spire]

Well, I'm not hc this league because all my characters are dead and then I got sent to Mexico on a work trip lmao

But when I get back, yeah, back to hcssf

[mortal cloak]

I converted to HC life on D3 console. Maxed every class to T16 etc and like GR100 but I can’t do hardcore on POE2 man it’s too hard lol

[languid kindle]

Il check maxroll im not that experienced yet or just match it like that

[dawn spire]

I fuckin love it. I got really bored in 0.1 and rerolled hc and had a blast. Beat the campaign on my str stacking corrupting cry gemling in 0.1.

Now that build is dead like five different ways

[languid kindle]

Found one for crouching_tuna is he reliable (I assume most on maxroll are)

[mortal cloak]

There’s just soooo many ways to get killed if you don’t pay 100% attention. I enjoy high paced content and challenge but I’m also adhd and vape a lot of thc, have 3 dogs and a kid so it’s really easy for me to get distracted for a second and die on here 😭

[dawn spire]

Pausing is my best friend

[mortal cloak]

It’s so so hard to build defensive enough to be actually safe and tanky to the extent of playing hardcore semi safely, and have damage and progress a build when you’re getting into maps content.

[dawn spire]

Tho while I've been away my wife got a new puppy so now I'll have one more thing to kill me. And my three cats also love to jump on my desk

[mortal cloak]

I feel like for hardcore on here you probably should follow a build guide or you’re gonna hit maps and splat around t8-14

Especially going into pinnacle content if you don’t know exactly what stats you need and how to approach it fuuuuu so easy to die

[dawn spire]

I actually died on my last character due to doing too much damage. I got swarmed by the hyenas after I killed rathbreaker. I was trying to use ED+Contagion, but ED was literally killing the hyenas before I could cast contagion to proliferate it.

Suffering from success.

I should have just logged out, but rathbreaker dropped a unique and I got greedy :/

But yeah, hc is fun af. I've gotten really good at act 1 🙃

I don't think I've ever died to geonor, actually

[tidal birch]

What is the main upside of going a caster class/build over a bow char and vice versa? I know that in poe1, bow builds had higher endgame power but significant worse league-start (until they added a lot of + proj on the tree). But I dont know for poe2?

[languid kindle]

I’m trying to engrave a lighting arrow but it tells me incorrect weapon type

[dawn spire]

But yeah, when I get back I'm torn between lots of builds

-Spear Smith of Kitava
-Corrupting cry warbringer
-Cold spell chronomancer
-Some sort of Pin tactician

[sage tulip]

I just threw together a possible passive tree for a lightning chaos lich build does anyone mind looking it over and let me know what you guys think ?

[dawn spire]

Are you using a bow?

[languid kindle]

No I’m starting as a huntress

[dawn spire]

Post it and I'll do my best on mobile

[dawn spire]

All classes can use all gear

[languid kindle]

Yeah but I meant I’m just level 2

[dawn spire]

If you're following a guide, it wants you to use a bow and cut a lightning arrow

[languid kindle]

So still haven’t gotten a bow

[dawn spire]

Check renly

He might have one for sale

[languid kindle]

Yeah but it’s too expensive kk

[dawn spire]

If he doesn't, you can also make a ranger and get to the town and stash that starting bow and use it on your huntress

[languid kindle]

Oh

Il try that

Thx

[mortal cloak]

I’m debating rerolling or doing hardcore. Idk. Rhoa lightning spear seems fun and fast. It is nice to copy a super high end build because you can goof with it a lot and still do pretty good.

[dawn spire]

I wouldn't touch the mount rhoa skill with a 20-foot pole in hc

[sage tulip]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/5y21a07t

I know there can always be revision or somehting I am not knowing or overlooking so thats why I ask from time to time, and thanks for the help.

[dawn spire]

Without knowing what skill(s) you're using there isn't much I can say

[static plinth]

Not to nitpick but why didnt you just cast contagion first

[dawn spire]

I did that too, but the pack was moving so much that my ED never landed on the contagion mob

[sage tulip]

I am using contagion, and essnce drain combo.

[static plinth]

Ourgh

[dawn spire]

I tried ED first and when that failed I swapped to spamming contagion and praying ED landed. It didn't

[static plinth]

I wish my game had enough frames to play hardcore

[mortal cloak]

What’s wrong with it ? The fungun clip I saw it seemed fine

[dawn spire]

If you get hit while riding you get heavy stunned for three seconds

Which is basically a trip to sc

[static plinth]

When you take damage you accumulate stun. When you get stunned (not hard) you get put into a THREE SECOND stun animation

[atomic halo]

or a trip to logout

[tidal birch]

@dawn spire you have an answer for this: #2┃build-planning message
👉 👈

[humble wave]

Are Cast on Shock and Cast on Critical charging equally quick? Cause if I play a Shock/Crit build I'll probably crit way more than I shock right? But I'm not sure if they charge as fast

[static plinth]

CoC is based on the damage of your hit

CoC will probably be faster on average assuming your CC is near 100%

[dawn spire]

Preference and your goals, mostly. Skill feel is big imo. Also affects how easy/hard it is to stack other stuff like defenses.

Eg, if you go bows and get bow nodes, you'll naturally path nearer to evasion nodes

[atomic halo]

it's just different, it's hard to make any broad generalizations

[tidal birch]

Okay, thanks my dudes ❤️

[sage tulip]

updated it with my currecnt skills

[dawn spire]

The game seems to be trying to make it so you can succeed with whatever style you want and also offer loads of ways to build/optimize them

[sage tulip]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/5y21a07t

[dawn spire]

Idk if it's a mobile issue, but I don't see any skills

[sage tulip]

Essence Drain, Contagion, and Curses as Blasphemy aura's

[static plinth]

How is archmage this patch?

[dawn spire]

Also if you could, please right click the embed to remove it to declutter chat

[dawn spire]

So what exactly makes this a lightning chaos lich?

[static plinth]

Voltaxic Rift's conversion mod is global and applies to spells, right?

[dawn spire]

Aye

For hits, at least

[sage tulip]

not sure how to remove the embed part besides just removing the link.
For the build I picked up essence of the storm which allows me to add 5% of all damage as lightning damage to all damage sources. THis allows me to add lightning damage to chaos spells. This allows essence drain to be both chaos and lightning. Now I can shock enemies with essence drain.

[static plinth]

Man gain as extra not being converted is fucking lame

[dawn spire]

Oh, it's not a right click. If you hover over it there's an X in the top right of the embed

[static plinth]

"Ah i can use mind of the council when it comes out with VR" NOPE

[dawn spire]

Damaged added as X doesn't apply to damage over time

Essence drain would, at best, shock the first enemy you hit and that's it

[sage tulip]

fair but want to gain shock on my enemies so boss's are a bit easier and my minions hit enemies harder not to mention gain cast on shock but could do a cast on crit I guess since thaty would be easier.

[dawn spire]

And with only 5% added as lightning, that's a very slim chance

Are you using voltaxic rift?

[sage tulip]

also I would use the bow if it didn't take 2 hands.

No I don't plan to

[dawn spire]

Without voltaxic rift, 5% added as extra lightning won't even get you to shock white mobs, most likely

[sage tulip]

damn

[dawn spire]

Also crits don't benefit dots either

I was very skeptical when I heard lightning chaos lich

[sage tulip]

no but wanted a way to cast on X

[dawn spire]

Then crit ain't it. Not with ED/contagion

[sage tulip]

maybe cast on minion death then

[dawn spire]

Maybe, but doesn't that scale with the life of the minion?

Sounds like it would be kinda bad without minion nodes and a scepter

Lemme ask this: what's the goal of the build? What's the one thing you need the build to do for it to be what you want?

[sage tulip]

well the scepter I plan on using is The Dark Defiler since it has a effect in it of gaining 5% cahso damage ber undeads minion

the original plan was a elemental chao build.

[dawn spire]

What does that mean?

You want to do both ele damage and chaos damage?

[sage tulip]

yeah

that was the plan at the start but this isn't as easy to do as I thought it would be

[dawn spire]

Why not go an elemental spell and use lich's unholy might node(s)?

Unholy might gives you chaos, the spell gives you ele

[sage tulip]

that was the plan and use arc as the spell for shock chance with painter's gloves but now arc doesn't do shock chance anymore kinda pulled the core piece of the build out.

[dawn spire]

I see. So the core is also shocking

Chaos + ele + shock

Those are the three critical components?

[sage tulip]

yes

[dawn spire]

And does it need to be a spell?

[sage tulip]

I guess not;

[dawn spire]

Or would you also be fine using galvanic shards or lightning arrow? Or a qstaff skill?

Or lightning spear

Well then you have dozens of ways you can make this build

[pastel valley]

what's the new meta?! 😄

[dawn spire]

You can use qstaves, bows, cbows, and spears on a lich

[dapper violet]

can I empower totems with warcries?

[dawn spire]

We don't know. And if anyone says they know, they're trying to sell you something

[dawn spire]

I don't believe so. Warcries only empower attacks you use as far as I'm aware

[sage tulip]

well the idea was to be a ranged caster since I have done so many melee builds before this patch and wanted to try something different but I guess I can turn this into a melee build which would also allow me to use my bread and butter of heralds which I like to do.

[restive shale]

does the flat damage get added to totems?

[sage tulip]

hmm I would still be able to mix contagino in there as well

[dawn spire]

The problem is that contagion only spreads chaos dot debuffs. Shocking an enemy requires a hit or the creation of shocked ground. Contagion cannot spread shocks

[hoary bolt]

no

totems use their own weapon

[dawn spire]

No, totems use their own weapons

[sage tulip]

no I know but hard to pass up how contagion just melts enemies when it spreads.

It would deffinetly help against bosses with adds

[dawn spire]

Yeah, if you're using essence drain

[sage tulip]

fair

[dapper violet]

thanks for the answer

[sage tulip]

so I just need to pick one or the other and not both lol

[dawn spire]

The only way I can think of to reliably shock enemies with a chaos dot build is lightning warp. And that won't help on bosses without adds

[sage tulip]

the inspiration for this character was AINZ OOAL GOWN from the show since he is basically a master caster and a lich

I saw lich getting added and making him was what came up immediately

[dawn spire]

No idea who/what that is, but if you're going the unholy might node on lich, it will not boost your damage over time at all

[sage tulip]

no I get that as well.,

alright well you gave me some ideas and helped me out so thank you I got to go though.

[dawn spire]

Not saying you can't use it, but it won't benefit the whole of your build.

My best suggestion would be chaos dot plus lightning warp or maybe even a weapon swap to a lightning tree setup for shocking

Or you go something like ball lightning + lightning warp with full lightning investment, plus the unholy might nodes on lich for added chaos

(any lightning spell can work, basically)

[halcyon solar]

Is there some way to check the corresponding monster lvl according to map lvl?

[sage tulip]

well it would alos help if I wasn't trying to do the Zealot and chaos inoculation combo since that has me basically spread all over the upper passive tree to save on points.

[dawn spire]

White = map level
Blue = level +1
Rare = level +2
Unique = +2/3, I forget

That's how it is in poe1 at least

[sage tulip]

I grabbed Zealot's, MOM, and CI so I am a bit spread out.

[halcyon solar]

i mean like monster lvl 79 in T14 etc.

[languid kindle]

Is exalted orb rare ?

[dawn spire]

Yeah, if the area level is 79, then whites are 79, blues are 80, etc

[dawn spire]

Rarer than regals, more common than alchemy orbs

And more common than chaos

[halcyon solar]

where can you check the area lvl before you are inside the map

[dawn spire]

Ah, I see. It's 67+tier of the way stone

T1s start at 68, I believe

If it's 66, then 65+tier of waystone

[halcyon solar]

would be pretty f'in convenient to simply be able to see this somewhere...

[dawn spire]

Nah, doing math uses your brain. Using your brain burns calories. I'm getting fit while I'm playing poe2. Ez life

[grim dawn]

is ingenuity worth it for lightning spear zon?

[halcyon solar]

😄 so you are saying the game should hide info to make you do the math? I mean i get ya, but the concept is still off

because you would still have to google the info on where to even start the math

[dawn spire]

I'm not staying it should, but you said it would be convenient not to. But I also think it's a convenient way to burn calories (:

[halcyon solar]

if you would have provided the starting variables in the game i'd be totally fine with that.

[dawn spire]

"Is X worth?" is a nearly impossible question to answer in poe. Everything is a tradeoff

[dawn spire]

You are provided with them. When you enter a t1 map it shows the area level in the top right

[halcyon solar]

Shall i enter a T1 map while doing T15's to get the values. Now that's really... questionable design.

[dawn spire]

But yeah, it would be convenient in a sense. But the devs have pretty strict notions about what's convenient and what is too much.

Also, that's not info that's relevant to most players. And showing something like that out of the gate could cause more confusion than clarityy

I'm curious why you wanted to know that value, myself

[halcyon solar]

for the boss tree monster lvl requirements

[quasi flint]

why do so many peole take controlled destruction with ED? is ED played as a hit skill now or can people not read?

[dawn spire]

People can't read

They might assume it's the same as poe1

[quasi flint]

yeah poe ninja seems to not be great for this combo of skill+ascendancy

[dawn spire]

Misinformation spreading like it's a chaos dot debuff on a contagion build

[quasi flint]

I think people might be sleeping on dark effigy as a source of single target damage for EDC

[dawn spire]

Probs

It slaps so hard

Envenom + CD + arcane tempo

It go brrr

Maybe overabundance

[quasi flint]

nothin in the tree distinguishes between chaos damage and dots, totem skills aren't that strong for spell totems

I have envenom+controlled destruction+Conc effect on mine

conc effect is a free damage support I think

[dawn spire]

Contagion + ED + Decaying hex + poison = 4 projectiles per shot

[quasi flint]

yeah

[dawn spire]

Yeah, if you only care about single target it's nice

[quasi flint]

I've yet to find a good way to apply decaying hex that isn't clunky as hell

[dawn spire]

I just manually cast a curse

I'm basic like that

[quasi flint]

with whispers of doom's doubled delay?

[dawn spire]

Nah, I'm a single curse Andy

[halcyon solar]

so far i had the best avg. drops from Exiles. Really wondering why every "content creator" doesn't include those nodes.

[fair gate]

Hey does anyone have or know a decent starting build for a aura booster, want to make one for rarity but not sure what changed in update

[quasi flint]

are you doing weapon swap curse setups? and how far into the game are you?

[dawn spire]

Well, my three ED/C builds all got to act 2 before dying and I haven't been able to play since (:

This is all theory about what I was planning on doing if I got that far

[static plinth]

I played EDC in 0.1, from what ive seen yeah, people are massively underestimating DE

Especially since we now have the GOAT Soul Mantle

And also the interesting Greatwood Support

[dawn spire]

If you take WoD + a bunch of curse activation delay reduction in your curse weapon swap, it might not be too bad

[static plinth]

Weapon swap curse is really, really good. You save like 15 points

[dawn spire]

Weapon swap curses are so fuckin busted

[quasi flint]

I need to learn how to set it up

[dawn spire]

Especially since you path by like three curse clusters as a chaos dot build

[static plinth]

And if you get -100% activation delay with tree+focused curse, its instant activation. Whispers of Doom then doubles 0 to 0

[dawn spire]

TIL

[static plinth]

Its awesome

[dawn spire]

Damn, guess I might roll up chaos dot chrono #4 when I get home

[static plinth]

And if you get instant curses, self casting two of them doesnt suck too much

[quasi flint]

how do you migrate from a single skill tree to curse weapon swap?

[dawn spire]

Go to respec guy, set your tree to "set 1"and click on a bunch of your non-curse nodes you don't need while you're in your curse set. This will free up an equal number of points for weapon set 2

Alternatively, if you already have curse nodes allocated, set those to weapon set 2

[quasi flint]

and also, I'm seeing people go hard on ES as chrono, but what about the life recoup synergy?

[static plinth]

Was better before Atziri's Disdain nerf

Still good though

[dawn spire]

Then just fill out more damage/non-curse nodes on set 1 and get more stuff to help curses on set 2 (cast/skill speed, aoe, curse stuff, etc)

[halcyon solar]

@dawn spire If a curse would spread through your initial Hexbloom. Can i keep spreading afterwards?

[static plinth]

Yes

[fair gate]

Is there an aura booster build yet for dawn of the hunt ?

[dawn spire]

Snapow's YouTube channel is the only source I know of for party builds

[quasi flint]

what's the point of this item

ES and life got weird in poe 2

don't understand them at al

[fair gate]

Nothing for dawn of the hunt, think they changed it to much for an old build to work ?

[dawn spire]

Going life on chrono is just really feelsbad when you're surrounded by so much max es on the tree and you have so many good ways to restore it.

Mostly via skipping the CD on convalesence and/or just using temporal rift

[compact tulip]

does anybody know if this has any effect on skills that only consume 1 charge at a time?

[dawn spire]

There are so many patch notes and idk what the build was like before. But it's possible it still works

[dawn spire]

Can you give an example?

[dawn spire]

Also make sure your weapon swap is also decent. A +level spell/chaos weapon with cast speed is ideal

[quasi flint]

got it, thank

[halcyon solar]

Isn't the game supposed to ALWAYS give you a map corresponding to the Tier you just completed? O.o

[static plinth]

Normally when youre an ES build and you have a lot of life recovery, that recovery is useless 90% of the time because your entire ES needs to be chewed through first.

Atziri's Disdain makes your life recovery and life pool meaningful, while giving you a decent bonus to your ES amount because of the ability to now die while you still have ES

[halcyon solar]

they could also get rid of burning ground for god's sake. That mod basically says "you can't do Rituals" or maybe even Breaches, Exped on very tight maps.

that one is only annoying the player base.

[languid kindle]

Umm if I’m playing gas arrow Amazon should I buy radiant grief to have it ready already

[fair gate]

I am not really finding anything, like what pushes out the rarirty usually

[dawn spire]

From the patch notes:

"Waystones dropped by Final Map Bosses will now always be one tier higher than the map you are in.

Final Map Bosses and the final naturally-occurring Rare Monsters in Tier 1 maps have a 100% chance to drop a waystone. This chance scales down as you get into higher Map Tiers, but will still be guaranteed with appropriate investment into Waystone Suffix Modifiers and through the Atlas Passive Tree. Natual waystone drops have been reduced to compensate."

It only includes bosses, not just any map

And the final rare just drops a waystone, no tier guarantee

[halcyon solar]

I see, thanks.

[dawn spire]

Oh, it doesn't even guarantee a waystone from bosses

It just guarantees that if it drops it WILL be a tier higher

[pearl sluice]

Hi, someone managed to do a battlemage/spellblade/gish of any kind? Specially using summons and melee

[indigo valley]

What's a good mechanic to use Bleed with ? I am playing Smith of Kitava with Rake

[halcyon solar]

yeah, that one made me question the thing just now

happend quite some times for me

[dawn spire]

If you're using stomping ground then the bleed part of rake is kind of irrelevant

If you want to go bleed, I'd recommend something with big meaty hits

Probably a mace skill

[indigo valley]

nope not using stomping, not stacking strength, more combining it with spearfield, kind of off breed

[dawn spire]

Bleed works well with big hits and doesn't care about attack speed, really. Idk what spear skills fit that bill

[halcyon solar]

you can buy the unique belt with +44 str and 0 level requirement and 1 shot the whole act 1.

[old berry]

how do the weapon set points work ?
when you want to use 2 different passive tree builds

[halcyon solar]

there's also a unique ring with a bunch of +attack dmg with also no requirements. Those cost nothing.

[indigo valley]

What do you mean by big hits ? Also I am combining it with momentum, deep cuts, heavy swing and heft and let HoB do it's thing as things explode, Might be better to change momentum to close combat not sure

[indigo valley]

are you talking about Venopuncture ?

[dawn spire]

Enemies can only be damaged by one bleed at a time and the bleed magnitude is based on the size of the hit

[halcyon solar]

sec

[dawn spire]

So it naturally lends itself to big, infrequent hits

Since attacking quickly won't raise your bleed dps

[halcyon solar]

that one is the belt, which is absolutely nuts

[dawn spire]

Exactly. If you're not trying to swap weapons or use two trees, I wouldn't touch the weapon set points

[halcyon solar]

that's the ring

[quasi flint]

so is life chronomancer outright bad or just opportunity cost?

[old berry]

yes, but i want to but dont know how ?

[halcyon solar]

and since Rake let's you move faster than just walking even with 20% from Wanderlust you zoom through the game at a pretty crazy speed

[indigo valley]

hmm, that doesn't seem like a lot of dmg

[halcyon solar]

while killing stuff

for lvl 1?

[indigo valley]

oh you are talking early levels

yeah no i am talking later at lvl 70

[halcyon solar]

yeah, ofc

[indigo valley]

oh then nevermind that's epic for early

[halcyon solar]

this with the belt above is like the best game start.

[indigo valley]

i am thinking 2x of these to use for bleed later maybe, it's insane

[halcyon solar]

and then there's that one to top it off...

[indigo valley]

yeah that's pretty neat as well

[halcyon solar]

+60 str plus a bunch of +attack that is

[indigo valley]

then later you can swap to

[halcyon solar]

ah, that one i didn't know, thanks.

[indigo valley]

Yeah so bleeding also does fire dmg

[twin mauve]

did they change how corrupted blueflame bracers work with gas arrow? it can't freeze anymore right?

[indigo valley]

and then you simply sawp to a good rare with high phys dmg

kinda "crafted" this lol

[halcyon solar]

the spear looks so dumb. More like an Umbrella

[indigo valley]

yeah so it protects from all the splashing blood the enemies spill after you vanquish them

[dusty wagon]

With HOTG being destroyed, is there a viable warrior build this season 👀

[halcyon solar]

🤣 good way of justifying that horrible art 👍

[indigo valley]

ikr, such a running joke as many other things

[indigo valley]

maybe you can try Spear of Solaris, it kinda works like HOTG

[sturdy yoke]

anyone know of really good warrior build please? im really struggling

[halcyon solar]

how much bleed dmg is the base value of Bleeding? All the items and gems just say "increased magnitude of Bleeding".

[atomic halo]

The base Magnitude of Bleeding is Physical damage per second equal to 15% of the Physical damage of the Hit that inflicted it. This is calculated using the final damage dealt by the Hit, but not any modifiers on the target that affect how much damage they will take from the Hit. This magnitude is not further affected by any modifiers to the damage you deal.

- tooltip

[halcyon solar]

oh yeah it's in the 5. Paragraph of that essay 😄
They could have just lead with that

thanks though

however i don't get the part where it can't be modded by other effects, while so many e.g. items have +bleeding magnitude

[atomic halo]

all it means it doesnt double dip

so if you have 100% inc. global phys damage, that won't apply to the hit (thereby increasing the magntude) and then the bleed itself, because then it would end up applying twice to the bleed

[vast folio]

boys, was 15 EX for this a good deal? i managed to get it to 264-494 physical damage but im not sure

[atomic halo]

so that modifier will only directly apply to the hit and not the dot

[halcyon solar]

pretty sure that could have been said in a more digestible way 😄

[atomic halo]

looks reasonable but you tell me, you were the one that bought it

[vast folio]

idk im happy with it, just curious what others think, i can't for the life of me price stuff

[halcyon solar]

there are quite a few tools for that. I use Sidekick to check similar items.

[vast folio]

ye ye same, but it's never that simple in my head. Trying my best to play around it

[dawn spire]

@old berry here's an example I gave for setting up a curse tree weapon swap

[old berry]

ok ty

[regal widget]

Im running a lightning sorc, only level 11 right now, what spirit gem should i use for now?

[static plinth]

I think you could get something like that for 10 or 12 but it wasnt a big ripoff or anything

[dawn spire]

Depends on what you want out of life. Mana remnants if mana is an issue. Arctic armor if getting swarmed and dying is a concern

[regal widget]

thats perfect thanks lol

mana no issue, so arctic armor it is xD

[dawn spire]

I'd recommend adding glaciation and frost nexus supports to it when you get some extra gems. It will help immensely for swarms of fast mobs

[regal widget]

sweet thanks so much!

[static plinth]

How does Spectral Volley interact with Freezing Salvo?

Also do yall think its possible to make Voltaxic Rift + Beyond Reach work together or am i sacrificing too much damage

[halcyon solar]

I'm still unsure why my dps should be 15% past mitigation. I mean that depends on so many factors that you can't just put a value on it O.o
So it's basically 0.15 x dps as bleed dmg?

[atomic halo]

not "dps"

the hit

[halcyon solar]

eh yeah

[atomic halo]

if i deal 1000 phys damage, bleed is for 150

wdym "so many factors"

[halcyon solar]

if it says 15% of post mitigation. I mean mitigation is like armor and thousands more modifiers on both ends.

[static plinth]

Its basically just armour and res in this game ngl

[halcyon solar]

i might misinterprete that entirely since english isn't my first language

[atomic halo]

it's the pre-mitigation damage

not post mitigation

but not any modifiers on the target that affect how much damage they will take from the Hit

[halcyon solar]

does bleed stack? Otherwise slower weapons are much better then?

[atomic halo]

no, and yes respectively

well, it technically does stack, but only the most damaging bleed deals damage.

[halcyon solar]

i think that's why the ingame tooltip mentions physical damage per second. But I'll leave it at that 😄

[balmy mortar]

I spec'd out of RT but despite Boneshatter having 100% accuracy from 0m and 98% accuracy at 2.9m I swear I miss like 50% of my shatters now. Am I missing something? It feels horrible now.

[quasi flint]

is life chronomancer outright bad or just the opportunity cost is a bit big?

I'm not confident enough in my ability to do ES while still making use of the recoup

[limber roost]

Hey guys, im in act 3 (non cruel) on my stop amazonian and im feeling really weak. takes me 4-5 rakes and disengages to kill a white mob. I am following this maxroll guide but I really dont know what I am doing wrong, any help?

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/bleed-rake-amazon-build-guide#skills-header

[halcyon solar]

at lvl 25-31 you can swap to Lighting spear btw.

maybe you don't have enough Strength for your stomping ground or just a sub paar weapon

[limber roost]

Is it better?

[halcyon solar]

i haven't played a huntress yet, but that's what ppl say when you can swap

and LS is, at least in the end game, the best build in the game

[limber roost]

Hmm

I'll have to see if I can find a build that works

[idle verge]

so im playing lich trying to get blasphemy to work with dispair but i dont have dispair casted while blasphemy is enabled? anyone know any reasons for this

[sage tulip]

how many curses do you have active ?

also blasphemy costs spirit to have them active.

[idle verge]

im jst using despair socketed

and i have 100spirit

o wait if i use a higher gem lvl then the spirit gem its socketed in could that be it?

[sage tulip]

did you right click blasphemy in your skills page to activate it ?

yeah the skill cannot out level blasphemy I belive

[idle verge]

o i see its cuz heightened curse makes 140%cost

nvm

[sage tulip]

ahh that would do it as well.

[idle verge]

yea but now if its 20%qaulity despair it doesnt work but with 0% it does:s

[umbral trench]

I'm finally getting to try Season of the Hunt; is Smith Ascendency actually tanky? Would be cool to play a nigh unkillable tank.

If not, I'll probably try Chaos witch.

[atomic halo]

yes it's tanky, still not nigh unkillable but its quite tanky

[halcyon solar]

Alva promotes gambling and is a currency broker. The literal devil

but at least a Treasure Hunter extraordinaire, which is kinda sympathetic

[umbral trench]

Ty. I'll have to debate the two a bit, both look fun. 🙂

[median fulcrum]

Hi everyone, I'm trying to make a build using Corrupted Blood + Blood Boil on Ritualist, does anyone know if Blood Boil + Blood Herald + Deidbell works?

[sage tulip]

wasn't there a new suppoort that allowed skills to do more damage if you consumed a corpse ?

[median fulcrum]

Do you mean the one that deals chaos damage after exploding a corpse?

[halcyon solar]

What do you anoint as Minion (Frost Mage) Lich?

[turbid haven]

is ice strike monk trash now? seems like no one is building it

[fair gate]

So ther are no rarity sul cores any more?

[atomic halo]

gone

[fair gate]

FUG

[vast folio]

May I ask for some help understanding 2 stats?
What's the difference between Increased Attack Damage and Increased Melee Damage?
In theory, which one is better for ice strike + charged staff invoker? 😦

[fair gate]

So you can only stack on normal equip?

[atomic halo]

mostly prefixes and suffixes, sometimes implicits, yeah

[static torrent]

As far as Ice Strike is concerned, they do the same thing, since Ice Strike is a Melee Attack, and will be added up to get your total increased damage for the skill. For Charged Staff, I believe it's not considered Melee (since it shoots a projectile) so only Attack damage would work.

[atomic halo]

attack = skill that bases its damage on your weapon
melee = attack and something close, not projectile or ranged

ice strike is melee attack so both are same

i dont see the melee tag on charged staff so it's only an attack

[vast folio]

ahaa, so doesn't matter what I pick regardless, since charged staff is neither melee, nor takes base damage from weapon

wait wut

[atomic halo]

it does take base damage from your weapon, it's an attack

[atomic halo]

charged staff is a shockwave, not a projectile

which i guess is basically the same thing but doesnt work with proj mods

[static torrent]

I got it mixed up with another effect, then

[vast folio]

last follow-up questions

1. So in the end, attack is better since it will power both frost strike nad charged staff?
2. How do you know which skills take damage from your base weapon and which dont 😦

[static torrent]

Probably Storm Wave

No, that one's also a shockwave

Which thing was the projectile, then xd

[static torrent]

2: Attacks do, unless stated to ignore your weapon.

They will have the Attack tag, usually right under the name of the skill on the tooltip, and list an 'Attack Damage' percentage.

[atomic halo]

1. yeah, but usually you dont really care about charged staff damage that much
2. if it says attack, it does, if it says spell, it doesnt. (with exceptions like totems, stomping ground, which get their base damage from somewhere stated on the skill)

[vast folio]

OHHH

[vast folio]

Thank you so much as always Bloon! ❤️

You guys rock ❤️

[dusty wagon]

Curious what people are running and if anyone is finding a particular build to be good at endgame

[cosmic tulip]

anione playing artilery balistas on a huntress ? Is there any guide outthere ? I can't find any

[sage tulip]

what is the benefit of the Ligurium talisman over zealots oath ?

[static plinth]

You can still Recharge

And also pathing to Zealot's Oath kinda sucks rn

Cause a lot of the nodes in that area are placeholder

Ligurium does remove all life regen though

Rather than making it an overflow thing

[sage tulip]

fair but if I have the recharge doesn't that mean I still have a timer to wait on until the regen begins ?

[static plinth]

Whether thats good or bad depends

Yeah

Wait no

Regen always goes

Recharge is a separate mechanic

Thats the automatic refill after a delay

[sage tulip]

damn that is so much better than zealot's oath

[static plinth]

Amulet is a pretty contested spot is the thing

Zealot's Oath is in theory less opportunity cost

In practice, ehh

[sage tulip]

I was just wondering since I want to use chaos inoculation but going all the way over to zealot sucks

[summer thicket]

is there a way to make all my shield in to hp?

[static plinth]

No

[sage tulip]

no but you can make it turn into your mana which for some builds you can make your mana your hp pool

[summer thicket]

okay how do i do that

nvm i see it tyty

[sage tulip]

don't forget MOM which makes all damage hit mana before life

[hoary bolt]

I'm feeling an urge to make a Slow-nomancer

any good options?

[tidal birch]

If I want to be fast, is Roha-Mount basically the only option?

[tidal birch]

Krip has a minion build, if you want non-minion chaos dot

[hoary bolt]

he's playing lich though

[tidal birch]

what do you mean with slow-nomancer? I thought I meant "Necromancer" = lich

[hoary bolt]

chronomancer

i.e a mob slowing build rather than CDR chrono

I mean I guess you could spec into both

[tidal birch]

Ah, sorry, then I have no input 🤷‍♂️ gl thought

[static torrent]

Rhoa Mount doesn't increase your movement speed, it only removes the movement speed penalty of attacking while moving. There are other ways to lessen the movement speed penalty, including the Pathfinder ascendancy and the Mobility support gem.

[tidal birch]

Oh, I just learned something. Thats why I thought it looks so "slow". It is just "average" movement speed. I just somehow assumed it would make the char "fast".

ty for the answer

Is basically the only "fast" ascendancy demon form then?

[static torrent]

Infernalist might be the only one that directly gives you more movement speed thanks to the increased dodge roll distance while in Demon Form, though that bonus distance was decreased with 0.2.

[hard pumice]

how do i make it so i can have multiple charms on at once?

[tidal birch]

Demon form must be terrible, since there are only 2 chars on poe2.ninja that even skilled it

[halcyon solar]

how can you view what are pre- and suffixes on an item while ALT only shows you tiers?

[static torrent]

You need a belt that has additional Charm slots, or pick up an item or notable on the tree that grants additional Charm slots.

[hard pumice]

ahhh ok

[static torrent]

It should show up on the left in small text, if you send a screenshot I can help point it out.

[static torrent]

There were a number of changes with 0.2 that prevented a lot of the easy ways to get a lot out of Demon Form, so it may be less popular this league.

[tidal birch]

I guess the move speed on boots is insanly important stat and I should buy 30%

[covert jasper]

Do Gain x% damage as extra y damage modifiers apply to DoT's as well?

[atomic halo]

no

only hits

[covert jasper]

ah alright

[vocal sinew]

Hello, i just dropped Tidebreaker on my Kitava. Has anyone seen any build for that? 😊

[oblique marlin]

folks life per enemy killed useful for any class?

[neat bison]

Not really, it can be nice for campaign but that’s pretty much it

[carmine flicker]

still can't decide what to play, rakestorm warrior or spectre lich?
(tried vaal guards and their AI is too passive, they don't start to kill things till they are close)

[distant prawn]

where i can find this?

[fiery scaffold]

why does it feel like loot became much worse once i got 90% rarity increase

[carmine flicker]

also - in trade, it's easier to just buy it from other players

[distant prawn]

for how much should i get it?

[distant prawn]

?

[carmine flicker]

it's cost is around 10 ex

[distant prawn]

that is a lot i have 2

sorry

[oblique marlin]

what about mana per enemy killed?

[teal pollen]

do weapon types have higher base accuracy rating? like quaterstaffs compared to spears?

[static plinth]

Yesnt. Youll have more accuracy when wielding weapons that require DEX as DEX gives accuracy, but no weapon inherently is more accurate

Ranged attacks are also inherently less accurate due to accuracy getting penalized the further away you are from a mob

[neat bison]

Same thing really, mana issues mostly happen on bosses and that wouldn’t help much

[narrow grail]

I really can't figure out which one is better for me 😄

[sage tulip]

what does withering presence do ? Not sure if is the same as back in poe1

nevermind figured it out but would that stack with the chaos curse ?

[shadow wyvern]

Kinda dumb question...if i use the orb that increases gem slots on a minion scepter, will the slot extension stay if I upgrade to a higher level version?

[dawn spire]

Yes, wither and despair are entirely different mechanisms. Wither is a debuff that increases chaos damage taken. Despair lowers chaos resistance

[sage tulip]

Ohh fuck that is nasty and fantastic at the same time.

[dawn spire]

You cannot use jewelers orbs on gear, only on skill/spirit gems

[neat bison]

You can’t, they get free slots depending on the item level, it will naturally upgrade when you find better ones

[dawn spire]

Skills from items/ascendancies gain sockets as you get higher ilvl items and reach higher character levels, respectively

[shadow wyvern]

Interesting. Thanks all!

[oblique marlin]

what do you think most useful as a single suffix stat on ring for the most popular(fubgun) build? dex/all res/MF/mana per kill/mana leech?

[nimble hound]

so other than Rake and Herald of Blood what skill should I be using

I tried blod hunt but its real low dmg

[uneven osprey]

rip charm build

[distant dome]

-+

[edgy dust]

are there any good witch builds that are as good as alot of the dead eye lightening ranger builds?

[tidal birch]

There are a lot of witch builds that can clear the entire game. I think, if you want a more detailed answer, you have to define what you mean with "as good".

[finite mica]

is there life reservation in poe2 to be low life?

[edgy dust]

IM looking for something that has some speed and big screen clears wanna be able to do t15 16. I like the speed of the ranger lighting builds and the big clears but just dont like the theme

[dusty lance]

whats a good annoint for lightning spear huntress?

[tidal birch]

something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ya92qLxSI

[edgy dust]

ya that looks nice

[neat bison]

Locked on is ok if you aren’t pathing there, I like overwhelming strikes I think it is called

[scarlet rover]

is that build expensive?

[native hare]

can anyone who's playing lightning spear explain how storm lance detonates without using skills like explosive spear?

[neat bison]

Frenzy charge

[fiery scaffold]

which essence do i use to get accuracy stat?

[neat bison]

It auto detonates

[native hare]

is that usually generated via casting Hunters Mark?

Snipers*

[neat bison]

That’s your most consistent generation yeah

Combat frenzy is supplemental

[fiery scaffold]

combat frenzy + sniper mark

i have sniper mark on cast on shock

but this is for much later

[edgy dust]

thnx

[neat bison]

Yeah you can raw cast the mark just fine

[native hare]

so for single target, my rotation is basically storm lance -> sniper's mark -> barrage -> storm lance, etc. ?

[dusty lance]

i cant find overwhelming strikes lol

[neat bison]

It’s on the warrior area, a crit cluster

[fiery scaffold]

yes but if you use the support gem which makes storm lance shoot 3 spears you dont need barrage

[tidal birch]

The chaos build? You can league start with the build, there are no "must have expensive items" to get it going. So my answer would be no. But the showcase is a endgame char, so that would be expensive to get.

[finite mica]

well, guess theres is not way to be low life like poe1 with bloodmagic or the other support

[dawn spire]

Only way I know of off the top of my head is with the infernalist ascendancy nodes. There might be uniques that can do this as well

[neat bison]

You could probably jerry rig a low life setup with lich lol

Like start your ES recharge while you’re low life

[static plinth]

Use Eldritch Battery helmet and life cost spell that costs as close to your life total as possible, recharge ES from there

[silver inlet]

Can someone tell me how the crossbow shot skill works do I need to invest gems into or not cuz the ammo is the skills?

Am I wasting gems rn?

[neat bison]

It’s just a basic attack, you probably don’t want to use it unless you’re completely out of mana

[silver inlet]

Doesn't the ammo conversion take over the skill tho?

Because for ps5 I can't see my rapid shot galvanic dps

It's just go e

[neat bison]

Did you accidentally change weapon sets?

[silver inlet]

No

[scarlet rover]

what build would you go for with around 7 divs?

[neat bison]

If you load galvanic shot it doesn’t re-appear?

[summer thicket]

how can i work around infernal flame dmg?

[neat bison]

Cloak of flame helps

Also the ascendency node searing flesh or whatever it’s called

[silver inlet]

It's been like this since the start of my merc

I've had to advance skill the whole time

[static plinth]

Max fire res and recoup

[static plinth]

Neither of those help lol

[neat bison]

Yes im dumb

[static plinth]

They make the stuff that helps with infernal flame more effective

[neat bison]

It’s taken as fire

My bad

[summer thicket]

i have 88% res and i heal for 80 hp a sec

but my skills are getting spamed fast

i end up dying even with my flask on

[dusky wadi]

which one should i take for warrior

[brazen granite]

quick question: when socketing support gems into a meta gem.. does it support the meta gem or the socketed skills in it?

[atomic halo]

the skills inside

[brazen granite]

thanks!

[orchid badge]

Best distilled emotion for a lightning spear amazon build?

[umbral trench]

Question for Witches: Why do some prefer archers over arsonists? Is it better single target or something?

[viscid radish]

Serrated Edges for damage ig

[rapid star]

so if my dumb ass testing is something to go by, 12 (8-17) added phys damage is equivalent to 12% poison magnitude

[static plinth]

Only if you have exactly 100 phys damage to start with

[rapid star]

I didn't go that deep, i was just testing to see what an iron ring needed to have so i could swap icefang out, the ring that got same or more dps had t9 add phys lol

and probably add lightning if using the unique the convert lightnign damage to chaos

I'm just trying to make my poisonburst pathfiender work... since I obviously got the wrong ascention to start the game lol

[wary wave]

Would the double accuracy shield help at this point ?

[pallid wigeon]

Damn, defiance of destiny went up in price by 4x. Was going to buy it yesterday but slacked.

What are people running with it?

[atomic halo]

poe2.ninja shows a lot of smiths using it

[dusky wadi]

are the increases from venoms actually that big of a difference? cause i stupidly took mana regen instead of stun threshold on warrior by accident

im still gonna take the chaos resistance one in cruel so i think ill be okay

[lone mirage]

I'm trying to get shock on bosses, whats a good spell to use with orb of storms to inflict it on them?

[sage tulip]

does mana regeneration rate still work with soulless form ?

as in nodes in the passive skill tree ?

[uncut trout]

So should I put electrocute on lightning spear for combat frenzy, is it a big dps loss?

[river dew]

how are you scaling it?

[swift estuary]

The activated effect gives a poison cloud that applies the poison debuff which scales with chaos damage

[grim dawn]

how important is rarity in 0,2?

[wheat socket]

Hey all, can I get some suggestions on Lich first 2 ascendancy points please?

I wanted more damage as I feel tanky, but every single Lich node feels like absolute garbage due to downsides

[dawn spire]

What build are you playing?

[wheat socket]

Chaos

[dawn spire]

Yes, that node just replaces your base mana regen (based off your max mana) with 6% of your life per second or whatever it is

[dawn spire]

Essence drain/contagion?

[wheat socket]

Yeah

[dawn spire]

Assuming you're doing ED/C, I'd recommend the curse pop node

And incorporate despair + Decaying hex

Well

Wait, lemme take that back

Idk if the explosions will mess up your contagion proliferation

If I had extra gold and was playing it, I'd at least try it out

[vagrant oyster]

Did they nerf cast on skills with dawn of the hunt or are they still usable?

[dawn spire]

If it sucks, I would swap to the small nodes for 3% life and 20% inc curse aoe

[wheat socket]

I picked up the unholy Might one... its working all right but now that I picked Despair, my mana is basically non existant xD

[dawn spire]

Unholy might does nothing for damage over time

[wheat socket]

oh god.. really

[dawn spire]

Yeah, hold alt and click on "damage added as extra" keyword. Last sentence

Oh, I still had that saved on my phone from the last time this happened

[wheat socket]

omg..

gonna say that I am having the worst experience early with this Lich ascendancy

I think its pretty bad designed

hope it gets better later

the downsides of it are just crazy

I just wished it was as simple and fun as Deadeye

[dawn spire]

I don't mean to sound harsh, but you didn't read how the node affected your build. That's not bad design on its own

[wheat socket]

Like you hit stuff you get tailwind, tailwind is op enjoy

[dawn spire]

You can play ED/C with deadeye

[wheat socket]

I get it, I didn't read its on me.. although I truilly think that ''added chaos damage'' its really bad phrasing

specially since they are focusing more on new players than PoE1

[dawn spire]

That's why you can hold alt and click on stuff to read it in poe2

[atomic halo]

although it makes sense, the implementation is not ggg's best moment. i've seen like half a dozen people asking the same question, and lord knows how many just assumed it worked and didnt think twice.

[dawn spire]

Yeah, putting a node like that on an ascendancy that seems to fit really well with essence drain/contagion is questionable

At least portrayed as such

[wheat socket]

Yeah for me this is by far the worst thing they designed in this game.. Idk

[dawn spire]

But the information is all there

[wheat socket]

I love the game

but like, I got an ascendancy and absolutely no nodes there are attractive to me

[dawn spire]

Also, I'd like to walk back my ED deadeye comment. I checked the nodes and it's an oof. Pathfinder would work tho

[pallid wigeon]

Glancing blows worth taking?

[dawn spire]

Then why did you pick that ascendancy?

[wheat socket]

honestly, the one you spend energy shield is even worse...that node early game just puts you on some situations where you ahve absolutely nothing to do

[wheat socket]

because it was clearly the one focused more on chaos damage...at least role play wise

[dawn spire]

Did you read the nodes before you picked it?

[wheat socket]

anyway, its done, I don't think there is any other ascendancy that works well with ED/C

probably Lich is still the best

[dawn spire]

Chronomancer is pog, imo. Blood mage can also work

Infernalist also works

[wheat socket]

I will try out Soulless Form now

[dawn spire]

No cap, I'd go the 3% life small node and the 20% curse aoe small node

[jaunty token]

I used ed/c on demonform infernalist occasionally last patch tho idk if it's any good any more

[dawn spire]

Then after you get your next two points, get all the curse branch

[jaunty token]

they hit demonform pretty hard with the degen rework

[dawn spire]

Double curse with blasphemy is nice

Blasphemy temp chains with despair + Decaying hex

[wheat socket]

Nice ok, will do that later on

Soulless form feels nice

mana regen is a lot better

now using Despair, mana gets short

[indigo valley]

is this even worth using ?

[grim dawn]

Im capped all res except chaos, @ 50% think its enough? for t 15 maps

[vivid crown]

i cant fix this, i can't attack and all my abilities are disabled

[vast jay]

you sure its not a windows key thing? ctrl=alt-del to bring up task manager and see if it resolves

[tacit inlet]

I actually I wondered about this too.

I saw fubguns video on the build I'm running and he only had 36 chaos

[neat bison]

Most chaos damage is avoidable but ideally you can get res

[tacit inlet]

But doesn't that massively inflate the price

[neat bison]

Sure, it beats getting 1 shot when things get hectic though

[tacit inlet]

Yeah makes sense ofc.

[dawn spire]

I think you swapped weapons. Press X

Oh that was an hour ago

[radiant yarrow]

with tangletongue's fork, if I have 100% crit hit chance, is that double crit damage each time?

[fleet blaze]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/2c17

I farmed for 3 days to get a Snakepit and added splitshot annoint to my amulet. Went into t15 and it's worse than what I was doing before.

Before, I was using astral projection bone cage for clear and heavy single target storms for tough rares and bosses. The bone cage pinned enemies at range before they even got to me and honestly, the clear was the same speed as what I'm doing now (snakepit/splitshot/bonestorm) but without the mass pinning. I'm using the pin boots now but it's nowhere near as pinning as bone cage.

The ranged mass pin from bone cage really made up for my lack of defenses which I have no idea how to make up for other than stacking ES and "taking hits"

Feeling a little down now and thinking about just stopping this league or maybe trying out a lightning javazon but meh. Please help.

[static plinth]

Would anyone be able to offer guidance on if i can make this work? I feel like Detonating Arrow Embitter might have sauce, but im realizing that this skill really does care about it's Ignite a lot
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/qy3640l2

[dawn spire]

Effectively yes

It says your crit damage mods apply twice

So it's not exactly double damage

I think

[static plinth]

Its 100% more critical damage bonus, basically

[dawn spire]

Aye

[static plinth]

Scale that down to be equal to your CC

[radiant yarrow]

oh well Ima get 260% increased crit dam, so 3.6x and that's 2 times right? So about 7.2x damage each hit?

[static plinth]

5.6x

[sage tulip]

DID they remove Grim Feast ?

[neat bison]

Yes

[sage tulip]

bastards

[radiant yarrow]

oh so like it does 3.6x, and that value is added to 2 for the second crit? ts confusing

but it's big damage

so good enough

hopefully

[static plinth]

No wait i just did my math wrong

260 doubled to 520, 6.2x damage

[radiant yarrow]

oh so it adds bonuses then mults, makes sense

thanks

[static plinth]

Read it as 230% at first which is where i got 5.6x

[twilit osprey]

Anyone free to help me with something about weapons?

at what point is getting acctuacy on my wep better than this?

[carmine flicker]

Tried every damn spectre mentioned as worth trying and.. can't say I'm impressed
They are all way slower than frost mages was 0.1
It's just me or it's sad reality?
It's not even about damage, but of application of it, coverage and speed etc

[indigo valley]

Is there a way to gain endurance charges ? other than Break Endurance

[quaint dagger]

is there something like a damage conversion support gem?

[atomic halo]

no, embitter is closest

[dusky wadi]

is super charged slam any good?

[proud sinew]

hi all, im playing huntress and I'm wondering is there a way i can have "Bloodhound's Mark" automatically apply to specfically any rare im hitting and not be overwritten by hitting something else

[bleak oracle]

Anyone knows why i cant shock with artillery ballista? Im running cast on shock and it doesnt gain any charges (converting fire to lightning with unique)

[frigid pawn]

Not that I'm aware of but they should totally add a cast on rare attack lol

[foggy solar]

will reduced duration make leap slam faster? or is the only way to scale attack speed?

[proud sinew]

agree! I would also love to see huntress tree have an addition of some kind of buff similar to headhunter when you kill a rare, further increased the more mobs it had around it at the time of death, if there somewhere i can make that suggestion to the devs?

[atomic halo]

attack speed

red duration does nothing

and it has a flat added attack time that can't be modified no matter what

[foggy solar]

oof, thanks

[sterile spade]

Hey guys!
For this build:
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/deadeye-leveling-build?widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiI3Njk0NWNlYi02ZDljLTRiNzItYTg0MS0yMzRhOTY3MzUwY2IifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0
Which of the two weapons is better?

[dusty lance]

anyone know some surviability tips for huntress? i feel like a glass canon on t12-15 maps

[atomic halo]

left

more damage

[dusky wadi]

is stampede good or is it nerfed to hell?

[sage tulip]

this lightning chaos lich build might actually be viable, just need to actually run it and see how it turns out.

[neat bison]

Well I’d say 2.5K hp and like 15K evasion at a minimum, hybrid EVA/ES is more consistent but requires more investment.

2 charm slot belt with freeze and stun charms helps too

[dusty lance]

whats a good split for eva/es?

[neat bison]

Well same HP

[stable crag]

if i want more life when i hit or kill an enemey what should look for on my jewels

[neat bison]

The evasion becomes secondary to more ES at that point

To increase your max hit

I forgot to mention block helps, if you can get near 75%

[magic pier]

so chat
anyway to reliably get hit with lightning?

[neat bison]

Good question 👀

[sage tulip]

i think ther might be a node or a piece of gear that converts a type of damage you take into lightning damage but IM not 100 percent sure.

[neat bison]

There’s the 5% of random element one

Idk if I’d call that consistent tho

I’ll have to look through uniques

[sage tulip]

I just realized in lvl 26 and already have 106 INT... when the hell did that happen

[radiant yarrow]

for the spearfield explosion's accuracy, does it change based off distance from explosion or distance of player?

assuming from the exploding spear but wanna make sure

[radiant yarrow]

some may call you the smartest league starter

[patent shell]

why does my hammer of god not do triple damage compared to leapslam ? leapslame = 623% hog= 1700%

[still rock]

because thats dps

🫡

[frigid pawn]

There's a support? Gem that doubles shock chance or something but applies that shock to you isn't there. But I guess that's not damage

[patent shell]

ah ok i see

[still rock]

no clue tbh but lmk if you find out cause thats useful info

[radiant yarrow]

wish there was a good way to test stuff but don't think it's easy to test that

[neat bison]

The Amazon leech node not applying to mana leech makes me sad

[radiant yarrow]

too much math to do

[still rock]

yeah i doubt theres a useful way to test unless you could find a unique that altered your accuracy in some significant way based on distance

and even then you probably just want to stack accuracy for falcon dive anyways so its probably not super important

[radiant yarrow]

yeah, i feel it should be from the spear tho cuz if it's from player that seems dumb

[still rock]

nvm tooltip clarifies

its from the source of dmg

[radiant yarrow]

oh bet then

neat

also is the spearfield itself a projectile?

cuz i see it gets the modifier but I might remove my projectile buffs for better stuff if it's not

[still rock]

dont think so

but who knows

i would imagine it'd have the projectile tag if so

its counted as an area attack

[radiant yarrow]

yeah just tested so it doesn't

weird it has the modifier

[novel moon]

Does anyone have any idea for ice monk?

[frigid pawn]

A lot of huntress attacks throw a spear and then bleh for damage, like how explosive spear has the projectile tag. Does spear field shoot something out as the spears traps come out?

[radiant yarrow]

just explodes on contact but no proj tag

im guessing it may affect the speed of the traps coming out

who knows

[wanton flame]

Anyone running spearfield on a bleed setup? What supports?

[formal mountain]

I am still in a big learning process of this game so i tend to follow guides somewhat. Right now im leveling a huntress and i cant see how people can play this lightning build. Before im done with the piano playing the boss has already moved. So i end up with slowly taking the boss down with lightning spear since the combo of getting storm lance and explosive sppear to work by starting out with barrage and snipers mark

[edgy hamlet]

Which one of these is the better one? Only act 1 cruel but just want to get some knowledge

[wanton flame]

What build? Lighting?

[edgy hamlet]

Yea lighting spear

[wanton flame]

So #2 is the only one scaling the lighting, but its pretty low. The spear will convert phys to lighting so #1 should do between for you

[edgy hamlet]

Ok! Didn’t know if the level to project skills was factor in anyway

[wanton flame]

I'd keep it, but the dmg is so low. +skill is huge later

[short mango]

so i got tangletongue during campaign. and it's supposedly one of the better weapons available for starting LS. . . I liked it when i got it, but the dmg was very very low. guessing i need a lot of accuracy/crit nodes to make it good?

e.g. is it worth getting a 5ex spear for early/mid maps (just finished campaign) and then transitioning to this as i fill out my passive tree? and get some crit/3rd ascendency

[neat bison]

The penetrate Amazon node is only useful if you have an accuracy mod on your weapon, right?

[atomic halo]

only worth it, yeah

[atomic halo]

not acc/crit, you need a lot of flat on rings

otherwise you have like 1 flat

also why does that have no runes, no quality

[short mango]

i got it during the campaign and havent' used it since i upgraded it to a better campaign weapon

didn't know it was useful till recently

[atomic halo]

if you get a proper one with a corrupt enchant, runes, quality, and get flat on rings it can be very powerful

[short mango]

but it'll take falt dmg rings. which i'm guessing will be pricy, to also have resistances

[atomic halo]

yeah it can get very pricey

but you save a good deal on the wep in the first place

[short mango]

ya. so for now i'll get a 5ex spear for early maps. and once i have a little currency i'll upgrade to a tangletongue build

[dusky wadi]

is brute strength worth getting on warrior since im going high strength for giants blood?

[atomic halo]

yeah, it's pretty good

[dusky wadi]

even with the reduced mana?

[atomic halo]

you can go blood magic to mitigate it

with the changes to attack mana costs its not that bad even without

[dusky wadi]

i was just gonna go down the brute strength tree anyway cause its ALOT of strength

[atomic halo]

some take the smalls and not the notable

although most still take the notable

[dusky wadi]

i was wondering if titanic is worth the cost but probably not since its only as 5% increase in strength

[atomic halo]

yeah its not very impressive

most dont take

[dusky wadi]

like out of my 220 strength it would be what...11?

for 4 points? yeah no

[low swallow]

so how does lich compare with infernalist for minions

[neat bison]

About to switch to Ritualist when the update comes so I can actually afford a decent spear

I think both are probably good

Seems to me Infernalist has the edge because it’s easier to gear and you get the bonus spirit

50% extra as fire was a nice buff

[north heart]

why can't warriors be as fast as lightning spear

[neat bison]

Because nothing should be as fast as LS probably

[magic pier]

this weapon is likely one of the best weapons in the patch tbh
like i can't overstate how powerful crit² is

[north heart]

mace skills feel like I'm moving back in time lol

[pallid wigeon]

Hey is cooked worth it? 60% bonus critical damage, but 15% reduce defenses

[north heart]

And I already felt squishy lol

[atomic halo]

yes

way too much damage to pass up

[edgy dust]

Anyone know if minion witch is currently stronger then the essencse drain contagion witch?

wass train to find out before i respec

[atomic halo]

if you check poe2.ninja, chaos witch is a lot more popular

[edgy dust]

bet thank you

[wanton flame]

Almost backed off of bleed ritualist. Glad I didn't, so fun to play

[frigid pawn]

Should I get rid of Burning strikes whole thing and lasting trauma? I don't feel like its contributing much damage but its hard to tell

[wanton flame]

I previously played, Ice strike, lighting arrow and spark. All 3 are just "push the die button"

Shoot, wrong channel. Sorry

[atomic halo]

marks maybe

ive seen sniper's mark used for a lot of dps

[radiant yarrow]

how does blood hunt's bar work. I see the highlight blood on enemies, that's blood loss right? And then a fourth of that is done as extra damage ontop of what that bar already is or just the fourth?

[potent compass]

any smiths been trying to theory craft a fire spell on hit build? (thinking of creating one using mjolner)

[still rock]

any mark with single out is ez access to armor break too

assuming youre dealing phys

has been insane for single target for me

[unborn sundial]

Anyone know why my POB resistance is off by 15 on Fire Cold Lightning, I have checked the items and the configuration, the chaos resistance is correct

[still rock]

shouldnt matter too much just add the resistance in the custom mods

[thorny path]

does the pob have more or less res than your actual character

[unborn sundial]

it has less

all 3 res shown 16 less in POB than in game

[tawdry timber]

Is rarity culler still a thing in 0.2?

[still rock]

well they havent changed rarity or culling afaik so

[dawn spire]

The bar is damage you've already done via blood loss. When you use blood hunt, it consumes the bar (blood loss) and deals 25% of that bar as phys damage

[radiant yarrow]

ah I see, also crit resistant is it takes less damage from crit damage bonus or just takes no crit damage?

if you know

[dawn spire]

No idea

[silent gorge]

Do the two handed weapon damage nodes on the tree affect ballista totem at all?

[unreal sierra]

they should

[latent dawn]

Well this isnt 16-17k ES with convalesence kind of defense but its something...

road to 1k regen

[candid hollow]

does hand of chayula ignore mark limit? why do so many ppl use multiple marks with it

[cosmic basin]

ancestral totem build worth it? im thinking molten strike?

and which ascendancy would be best?

[vivid dew]

hi guys need to use ur brain for a sec

can anyone ponit some ways to get damage taken as fire without using bodyarmr slot ?

need to find a way to sustian self ignite state

[open brook]

would bloodhounds mark supported by single out and break posture work? Single out says "enemies marked by supported skill have armour broken = to % phys taken". Break Posture says "supported skills apply daze when fully breaking armour"

Is the mark breaking the armour in this case?

[vivid dew]

so single out make 10% of dot damage done by bleeds on marked enemy to cause armr break

it wont instantly cause full break unless u do enough damage to cause it to

[open brook]

I think it also applies to hits

[still rock]

it does

[vivid dew]

it dose apply to hits againts marked enemy

[still rock]

whether or not break posture works on the mark alone, im not sure, would have to test

[vivid dew]

either titan or wh

depend on the content u want to run

[dusky wadi]

where do you see how much "glory" you have for hammer of the gods?

[peak pewter]

Hello guys is someone here keen on aurabot builds? I have a lv 60 chronomancer only for that role but all the builds are for 0.1

[vivid dew]

@open brook it would work

[open brook]

I just did some testing with Single Out + Break Posture on Bloodhounds mark. Break posture only applies daze when i put it on another skill, looks like SIngle out does not count the mark as causing the armour break only other skills

[still rock]

can corroborate, i put it on for a few maps and used it on rares and didnt notice a daze via just trying to armour break with the mark on

i do wonder if its the same for demolisher or not

much harder to test tho

[open brook]

I think this is just wierd case because a mark despite being "a skill" is usually just a modifier for other skills, its appling its affects to other skills doing things

[still rock]

the mark has an attack portion though, so it most likely would be applied if the attack effect from the mark fully breaks armour

but thats such a rare occasion that its most likely insignificant

[open brook]

the marks attack portion is a conditional though, the attack portion of the mark also consumes the mark, the rest of the time you can just count bloodhounds + single out as a curse but its a mark

yeah thats not very intuitive i guess

[still rock]

im going to test with break endurance to see if i ever gain an endurance charge, should be much more visible of a benchmark

[open brook]

that might actually work though because the stun build up is caused by the passive mark affect due to bloodloss

[still rock]

im using it with volataic mark to test if it can be triggered by single out specifically

[warped jackal]

Does someone know if balistic can leech for you? i might change to chonk with balistics, but would be usless if u cant leech

[still rock]

ok, can confrm that single out's armour break effect does not trigger the endurance charge from break endurance so that probably would be telling as if to how it interacts with "when this skill fully breaks armour" mechanics

it needs the actual damage from the mark to break the armour

by the wording, this makes sense since single out is a debuff that makes the target take armour break by all physical damage dealt, as opposed to single out armour breaking the target itself

[still rock]

no

You are not the totem, the totem is you

[warped jackal]

But if the totem is me, than it can leech?

[still rock]

it can leech for itself

but you cannot gain that leech

since you are not the totem

[warped jackal]

Aha like that, okay might skip that idea

thanks!

[polar wraith]

is there a quiver that adds projectiles?

[still rock]

no

[atomic mirage]

Hey Guys, im starting out my first char for the DLC. Does anyone have some spare lvling gear for my warrior? I just want to rush to endgame tbh

[still rock]

#2┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[velvet jacinth]

Does Rathpith Globe work with this? Not making me take damage while having ES?

[uneven aurora]

Other than passives is there any way to increase minion move speed?

[still rock]

no, eternal life makes anything that costs life fizzle because you cant use your life to cast

since it cant be changed

[cursive seal]

i saw the new tabula rasa has 6 jewel sockets and that sounds really neat, i was wondering what some cool build ideas enabled by that would be? curious if anyone has thoughts

[velvet jacinth]

oof thank you, yea makes sense.

[still rock]

afaik no, just the one passive node

companion haste aura actually, but thats a hefty spirit cost

there may be some spectre out there that has a ms aura/ buff but i wouldnt know

[north pivot]

Anyone know what's a quick way to break armour as a Smith of Kitava, apart from Resonating Shield spam

[still rock]

splinter support for an attack, single out support for a mark

[uneven aurora]

Thank you! Spectre was where i landed too

[finite mica]

does Life tap support works with Eternal life ?

cant find a clear answer on forums

[still rock]

no

#2┃build-planning message

[finite mica]

ok so blackened heart is terrible, just ignore until 0.3.0 changes

there is no way to scale it while paying mana cast costs

[still rock]

isn that where soulles form comes in

[finite mica]

if you have 2000life and 5000ES archetype, + 100% Mana regen rate, its 240mana / s

if you have 2500mana to scale 100% UM for blackendheart, necro conduit drains 125mana / s

add any casting spell and its terrible, i dont even count archmage or so

[winter bay]

Am I hurting my damage potential without physical attack on the spear? For Lightning Spear

[neat canopy]

does anyone know if stacking electric and cold ground for twisters multiply the dmg by 50% twice?

[still rock]

no its whichever it touches last

[neat canopy]

its a flat x50% increase in dmg? but gives like freeze / shock / ignite depending on the type of element?

[still rock]

its a gain % conversion, so it adds 50% ele on top of the flat from the attack before multipliers like increases/more etc

[neat canopy]

okiess got it! thanks so much for the explanation

[unreal girder]

Are there any projectile attacks besides ballista with flat dmg scaling?

[errant wyvern]

Hey everyone. Trying to make an arc build here but I think my idea is being confused with another game. Was it poe2 where you can get arc to bounce off you then back to the enemy? Or am I thinking of another game?

[mystic osprey]

would using double incision support with gemling legionnaire be worth it? put bloodlust(supported skill cant bleed) and incision on rapid assault to get 10 stacks of incision. and put incision on another skill. you get the 30% more bleed magnitude from it.

[rancid pine]

hello, maybe some op player knows - if you take blood magic which sets your mana to "0" and drink this flask, how much do you heal? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1310697696536956979/1360935362284884078/image.png?ex=67fced53&is=67fb9bd3&hm=2ae8f8aeb1f837ee983284eb22c91fb35a7e03c7066fd64d9a484ea31b3ebc74&

does the line get crossed out cause you have no mana?

[pearl sluice]

is there a stronger build than cold snap build for stormweaver sorc atm?

[vivid crown]

Does increased freeze threshold make it so you need less or more to freeze a target?

[woven depot]

Can always look through what the racers are doing https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?class=Stormweaver

[pearl sluice]

oh thanks

[slate kernel]

Does someone know why

doesnt buff my totems at all?

thought totems are considered allies

[unreal sierra]

pretty sure you get increased recovery

[halcyon solar]

is anybody competent with Minion Lich here atm?

[flat star]

Weird question, why do so many builds use chaos inoculation? Looking at monk in particular, es+evasion, so idk how i could ever get enough es to make it worth, and chaos damage seems rare enough so far. Plus not enough int to get the really good es gear, so much dex needed for the qstaves

[woven depot]

loads of minion discussion #1357831739258572861

[flat star]

like is there something in lategame that just spams chaos damage? I can't even imagine how it would even really benefit a full-ES build, just the natural HP from levels seems like it'd always be at least 25% of your ES

[atomic mirage]

What’s the best ascendancy for warrior? I was leaning to Kitava

[blazing crypt]

this doesnt work with the ritualist asc that lets you trigger charms without sufficient charges?

[unreal sierra]

if you are full ES then if your ES drops to zero then you probably dead anyways

and chaos does 2x damage to you

so its free immunity to your big weakness

[hoary bolt]

totems scale off your offensive stats

but use their own weapon

while they are technically allies in the broadest sense, they are not fully their own entity

[unreal sierra]

if you're hybrid (eva/es) then probably CI not worth it

[dawn spire]

Assuming you mean scaling with gem levels, I think Herald of thunder base damage scales with gem level.

[dawn spire]

Depends on the build

[dawn spire]

Chaos damage is twice as strong vs es and it's much more prevalent in the endgame

[dawn spire]

How are you checking to see if it affects your totems?

It should absolutely buff your totem if it's in your presence, but I doubt it would show up in the tooltip

[static torrent]

Tooltips don't generally reflect buffs like that, so yeah, it would be better to check what kind of damage they're dealing against enemies with and without the notable rather than going off of tooltip DPS alone.

[slate kernel]

placing turrets in presence with different crossbuffs and then skilled/unskilled

warbanner shows instand

[static torrent]

War Banner also affects you directly, though

[dawn spire]

See if the banner affects them while you're outside of its radius

[static torrent]

Meanwhile, the notable specifically only affects Allies, so the damage bonus is applied to the Totems/Ballistae that are placed, not as a general damage bonus that would be reflected on the tooltip.

[graceful stag]

HI GUYS! trying to figure out what sounds as maximum energy but can't find it anywhere the tooltips im seeing are misleading

[dawn spire]

What do you mean what sounds as max es?

Do you mean "counts" as max es? If so, in what context? Full es? What contributes toward max es?

[graceful stag]

"Triggers all Socketed Spells and loses all Energy on reaching maximum Energy"

this is what poe2db.tw says about cast on charm use

[dawn spire]

Read the meta gem to see how it gains energy and what maximum energy is

[pearl sluice]

does the infernalist ascendency that allies (aka minions) contribute to ignite chance and magnitude work?
releasing and resummoning minions changes nothing on my fireball

[dawn spire]

Oh, the page is laid out weird. The max energy is listed directly under the effects from quality. It looks like it's part of it but it's not. @graceful stag

[graceful stag]

ohhh ty appreciate it

[placid apex]

Hello! Dumb q but does it mean anything if my passive skill tree glows or not. Because there are some nodes that when I click, the glowing disappears

[fluid kestrel]

why does huntress bleed build never take the passive where the bleed becomes aggrevated bleed?

[dawn spire]

Do you have anything in your search bar at the top? Things that match the search glow

[pearl sluice]

i misunderstood the passive...it means EVERY DAMAGE of me and allies can ignite

[dawn spire]

Maintaining a bleed every second is a lot harder than maintaining a bleed every 5s

[slate kernel]

i placed them and waited till the buffs are gone that work towards dmg increase (like "you gain X attack dmg for X seconds once you place a totem)

[placid apex]

No i mean like this

[slate kernel]

they dont get anything from it

and since there is no dmg log/dmg test dummy

[static torrent]

Again, are you looking at the tooltip DPS to determine that, because I've been trying to explain that it won't show up there.

[dawn spire]

You mean the glowy effect in the middle of the cluster? That's just cosmetic afaik

[slate kernel]

is ggg like a small indy company or smth? so many small stupid mistakes :/

[slate kernel]

why wouldnt you include that in the tooltip

[static torrent]

Because the tooltip reflects the gem's stats, not bonuses that are only added to the placed Totems within your Presence.

[placid apex]

Yes! Ok i see it's been bothering me for quite some time now loool

[slate kernel]

it influences the tooltip for other players tho

[placid apex]

Thank youuuu

[static torrent]

Because they get the stat applied to them directly when they're within your Presence.

[dawn spire]

There is a dummy, sort of. Go to a boss (I recommend Crowbell in cruel) with a low level gem and see what your damage is vs him (you can see your damage at the top near his life bar). If you're using a strong weapon and a weak gem, the difference should be very noticeable

[slate kernel]

Totem gem should get the stat applied the same way to make it non stupid/confusing imo

[static torrent]

It can't, because that stat does not affect You. The tooltips only show stuff based on Your stats.

[dawn spire]

That wouldn't make sense. Applying conditional buffs to your tooltip dps is a recipe for disaster imo

That's like saying your shock effect should be included in your tooltip as well

[static torrent]

And yeah, it's conditional, so it won't necessarily apply to all placed Totems if they're not in your Presence.

So showing it would also be misleading.

[slate kernel]

I mean its more misleading to not show anything so you have absolute ZERO indicator how much dmg they get from it.