2┃build-planning

[carmine flicker]

for free, almost
without gear

add another 2 points and you suddenly have 90 all res cause why the hell not

[still rock]

or about 40% crit with no investment on amazon lol

[vast jay]

they should have just put the life leech right into sanguimancy... or put it before the sanguimancy node so you could take it first but had to take sanguimancy to take anything else

[carmine flicker]

or that if you prefer offence, ye

[still rock]

just agreeing that the ascendancy nodes need a balance pass in relative to the strength of other ascendancies

[sand mural]

does anyone know wether dots from different players stack?

[still rock]

which i imagine will happen eventually

[carmine flicker]

well, life leech didn't even work first month of 0.1 or so
blood mages were so happy about that fact I'm sure

[vast jay]

i dont understand the ritualist charm bonuses..... are there some wacky passive "dmg buffs on charms" things you synergize this with?

[carmine flicker]

btw ritualist REALLY want to go into warrior's area, lol

[vast jay]

ya.. i was so hyped for bloodmage before release... and then when they dropped the ascendancy tree details i said "f-that" and switched to monk

i think because i really liked the D4 bloodnecro thing

[carmine flicker]

for like 50% reduced max mana

so all flat mana recovery like flasks were really effective for enabling

[still rock]

you go ritualist for the ring slot and increased ring effects, the rest is just candy tbh

[carmine flicker]

well
idk
endless charms are good if you ask me

(rings are better ofc)

[still rock]

the frenzy charge charm in particular is notable

but im not crazy about normal charms tbh

theyre just eh, im never gunna care to invest particularly into charm slots

[vast jay]

i just dont understand what ritualist is FOR... outside of some wack build using 3 unique rings... what do you do with the nodes? blood sacrifice seems MEH and too RNG for me... charm bonuses seem, i dunno, what they are for.... and blood boil seems like a trash killing skill you dont need

[carmine flicker]

who care about normal ones, ofc
I mean uniques

[still rock]

Blood boil could be cool with worm flask

we need wormblaster

[astral gyro]

Hi there, can we still using the same trade site? i have been wp players but there's no reply at all. i think i did the wrong thing.

[still rock]

make sure its on the right league

instead of standard

[polar oasis]

Does anyone know how the last mod works? If I'm at 500 is it 500 flat damage? Or 1-500 damage?

so it would be 2-603 lightning damage essentially?

[vast jay]

i just dont understand why anyone needs an ascendancy skill to kill white trash mobs, when white map trash is already so easy to kill

[carmine flicker]

0-500

[vast jay]

Blood Boil doesn't even apply to unique enemies

[polar oasis]

Awesome, thanks

[still rock]

oh i didnt notice the non-unique part

thats lame

[vast jay]

and also... blood boil applies every 1.5-2 seconds... which is longer than white trash mobs live

so what is the point of it

[still rock]

i was theorizing for when/if poe2 gets a worm flask equivalent

[astral gyro]

how to check it's on the right league item? 😦

[kind crest]

Is it ever worth it to just 2 hand a weapon, no shield or dual wield? Because it seems like everyone runs either a shield or dual wields with giants blood but I love the look of 2 handing a single big hammer lol

[vast jay]

literally why would anyone want this skill at all, let alone spending ascendancy points on it?

[astral gyro]

i see, thanks btw.

[simple coral]

Has anyone figured out a way to reduce the stun meter on the rhoa mount without jumping off and back on? Was trying to find a support gem that may allow it but idt it exists

would love to hear some ideas

would be cool if there was like a grim feast type support gem that allows you to consume mob corpses and in turn reduces the stun meter.

[vast jay]

...or have excess life regen lower the stun meter

[still rock]

i havent even used the rhoa yet cause companion limit

which is sadge

[simple coral]

yeah it's an annoying gameplay loop to have to run away from the mobs jump off then back on.

[alpine parrot]

any advice of changing the gems for more dmg? build is elemental dmg/affects

[simple coral]

Is there something in the passive tree that allows excess life regen to lower stun meter?

[alpine parrot]

i just put gems that give direct dmg

[violet grove]

You ever figure out any cute ideas? I was thinking of the Infinite Pursuits and Ritualist.

[still rock]

only thing i could think of is for a support build for multiplayer

since you dont actually have to kill them yourself

its just slain enemies in your presence

[vast jay]

but they don't get the proc unless they have blood boil

[simple coral]

have you figured out anything for this? Looking on the passive tree now to see if there is something, but idt any of the stun nodes apply to the mount, I think it's purely character related.

[vast jay]

which only applies every 1.5-2 seconds

[still rock]

the relative strength of ascendancies for support rn is pretty low so its just icing on top of a support build id imagine

[vast jay]

its not slain enemies in your presence..

enemies in your presence get a blood boil every 1.5-2 seconds... and those stacks trigger corrupted blood..

but if things only live 1.5 seconds, they will barely every get blood boil stacks

[simple coral]

Has anyone figured out a way to reduce the stun meter on rhoa mount without jumping off and back on? Any passive skills or support gems that can do this?

[vast jay]

@still rock the only purpose of blood boil i can see.... since you dont need it on white mobs and it doesn't work on unique-bosses.... is to take on lots of rare mobs at once.... in really juiced maps ... maybe?

[still rock]

not sure but i assume it works as a check every 1.5 seconds if sonething is in your presence or not, rather than something having to be inside your presence for 1.5 seconds

regardless, according to people on poe ninja its just being used on support builds for the most part

[vast jay]

i think they designed the huntress around the rather-cool amazon ascendancy.. and then they just had to throw together something to make a second ascendancy

either that or someone at GGG has some really crafty ideas about how 3 rings and/or charm focused builds could do cool stuff.. and we'll see them come out eventually

[still rock]

ingenuity and flat added damage on high tier rare rings

[vast jay]

ya, maybe this is it.. maybe it's just a bunch of random stuff to play with around having 3 ring stupid level damafge

[still rock]

getting up to 55% increased flat dmg from two rings and 25% on the third is notable

assuming youre using three rings with three flat damage affixes

would be a lot of dmg

[last horizon]

does anyone know what's the difference between "Mana regeneration rate" and "Mana recovery rate"?

[still rock]

recovery would account for all forms of mana recovery, regeneration is just your inherent ability to recover mana over time

[fleet blaze]

this is big for amazon's isn't it?

not amazing

[still rock]

yes accuracy affix is notable for amazon or any other attack build using falcon dive

[vast jay]

if that was life leech i think it weould be better

[fleet blaze]

ty

[sleek iris]

i'm trying to get dark effigy to target mobs without contagion, is there a curse that makes dark effigy target? hoping to use blasphemy to force DE to target mobs if possible

[still rock]

any chaos dot

so you can use a curse supported with decaying hex, for example

poison works as well

[sleek iris]

so i'm using blasphemy, with despair and decaying hex, and its not targeting the mobs

[still rock]

decaying hex doesnt work with blasphemy

unfortch

[sleek iris]

bruh

[carmine flicker]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/a9h0t00u

smth like that as goal for "starter" up to lvl 90 imho

[lethal epoch]

what stats would i get for the body armor with smith passives?

thanks btw

i don't see any passives ?

[carmine flicker]

look in custome modifiers

can't allocate in POB

bugged

[halcyon solar]

can you not preview what will happen when you improve a gems quality with Gemcutter's?

[lethal epoch]

@carmine flicker i don't see any passive tree. do i have to open it in pob or something?

[carmine flicker]

ye

[lethal epoch]

its empty

or do i just copy paste that link you provided into the import

lol my bad im at work

[still rock]

so whats the deal with temper weapon? just doesnt work?

[cosmic tulip]

guys, I am lvl 30 Huntress, and I am stuck at the final act 2 boss, is there a build out there that I can switch to and have an easyer time killing the boss ?

at the moment I am playing Lightning spear

[halcyon solar]

Does anybody have an idea why i can't socket ANY gems into my Storm Mage?

[still rock]

you dont have the attributes required for that extra support perhaps

[halcyon solar]

i have plenty of dex

[still rock]

screenshot your normal skill window

at the top itll show your support gem allotments

from attributes

[still rock]

hmm

do you have it on a weapon swap maybe?

[halcyon solar]

i just saw that i have this for every singled gem atm

O.o

i can't socked anything at all 😄

and now it fixed itself. without me doing anything. Gotta be some kinda UI bug.

[still rock]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/qkcd70i2

[vast jay]

@cosmic tulip there are many builds out there that make things easy on huntress..... rake/stomp/str is the least gear dependent, though more typical is whirl/tornado

[pallid wigeon]

What does gem level for companion do?

[near jewel]

is it good for ancestral warrior sunder totem? the whole cluster - hysteria?

[still rock]

Same for other minions, just raises all their base stats and attacks and such

[thorny knoll]

anyone having issues with flasks not topping up my mana flask charges dont activate they just stay on 6 - help pls

[still rock]

Totems inherit your attack speed increases anyways but if you need the AS its a conveniently placed cluster

[near jewel]

I dont know if I need it tbh....subjectively I cannot see the difference.....

[still rock]

Yeah its not all that much i wouldnt stress the points there assuming youre having to spend like two travel nodes to get there even if you are taking the regen cluster

[normal fable]

Whats best class/spec for this artillery build

[hybrid ocean]

I'm considering a build with these

Shocking enemies with some fire mace skill, and proccing lightning conduit from that

But I'm unsure about which ascendancy to choose

Any thoughts? Right now I'm torn between Invoker and Smith

[solid walrus]

can someone come kill cruel manor wolfman plz hes such a fgt im already tilted.

[carmine flicker]

do it like this

[distant glade]

Huh

[carmine flicker]

you need path of building ofc for poe2

with this enabled in setting

[sleek iris]

is there anything i can do, to make "withering presence" trigger faster?

[solid walrus]

can someone come kill cruel manor wolfman plz hes such a fgt im already tilted.

[carmine flicker]

wrong channel

[thorny knoll]

anyone having issues with flasks not topping up my mana flask charges dont activate they just stay on 6 - help pls

figured it out ps5 button mapping is broken mana flask will only work if assigned to dpad down wtf ??

[still rock]

keep spamming slurs im sure itll help getting someone to help you

[vast jay]

anyone know what happens with this and the amazon excess accuracy turns into crit?

[potent hearth]

Hey, currently leveling a fire witch and i can't wrap my head around ignite. How do things like incinerate, solar orb and fire ground effect all interact with each other ?

We still can only have 1 ignite active right ?

[carmine flicker]

only one

[dusty kiln]

does aura size of companions scale with anything, like their size?

[carmine flicker]

anyway, ignite is in REALLY bad place, don't bother with it

[potent hearth]

Yeah that's how it feels :x

[still rock]

I dont think you can affect the monster mods with increased aoe

you probably can affect their inherent abilities but not the monster mods

im 90% sure

[carmine flicker]

only thing ignite is good for - consuming it for things that consume it for.. things

[dusty kiln]

i meant more like
do different beasts have different sizes of auras
cause i mainly want them for the mods

[still rock]

All mods are the same for the most part

[carmine flicker]

aura emantes from the center, not from endge of model

[still rock]

the difference between the companions is what body youre putting them on

[carmine flicker]

so larger best won't have bigger aura cause of this

[dusty kiln]

gotcha, then i should aim for a cheap beast unless the beast itself has other useful properties, if im mainly there for auras

[still rock]

ive seena alot of people use boars, maybe theyre cheap

and have an inherent stun

i still want to try to nab a gilded beetle

[dusty kiln]

boars are easy to farm, but they arent that cheap iirc

[still rock]

what % are they

[dusty kiln]

sec

39%

actually quite expensive

[still rock]

cheaper than quadrilla

[dusty kiln]

rn i run a serpent shaman, who casts a debuff and stays close, which is useful
and an antlion charger, but it sucks, and is expensive
but its my only beast with a haste aura atm

[potent hearth]

Also is ember fusillade like good ? It feels awful while leveling

[still rock]

antlion was so ass lol

i dumped that guy in like one zone

bro is slower than a sloth

[dusty kiln]

where the hell did these "removed skills" suddenly come from

[carmine flicker]

need to stack all the reduced duration in tree for it

(and even then it's kinda bad)

[potent hearth]

Yikes

[still rock]

weapon that you removed i think

[dusty kiln]

i havent removed mine for hours though

[potent hearth]

Do you guys think I can cook something with firestorm ?

[carmine flicker]

don't bother with fire spells
or lightning, for that matter

[potent hearth]

I have a hard time thinking that's all we have as spells..

[dusty kiln]

if you want fire dmg, artillery ballista and siege cascade works well for me rn

[carmine flicker]

if you want fire damage then elemental sundering is good

auto fire damage to everything on screen

but it's attack

so yeah
not for witch

[potent hearth]

I'm a caster player most of the time, why are caster so shit ><

[carmine flicker]

they were too good in 0.1

so now they are TO THE GROUNDed

also GGG added spears, then want people to play(test) spears
so many strong non-spear-things were nerfed

so you spears

(or spectres)

or maces, cause they didn't nerf those at least

[potent hearth]

Hmmm

Wait where is the specter skill gem ?

Nevermind I found it. Does the amount of specters you have scale with levels or is it just 1?

[static torrent]

It's the same as with other minions, you can assign more Spirit to get more Spectres.

[novel cove]

The Critical Strike ascendancy passive sometimes feels as if it isn't actually granting that level of crit strike. My skill says +33% to crit, but then it takes a crap ton of attacks to proc sniper's mark, which is consumed on crit. I feel like I'm missing something here

Anyone have any insight?

[static torrent]

I don't believe it's a flat 33% to crit, but a 33% increase to the crit chance displayed on the line above.

[novel cove]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

That makes WAYYYYY more sense. Alright

Thank you!

[carmine flicker]

there are really few good spectres tho, sadly

[novel cove]

It'd be nice if the in-game tool tip gave you the final estimated number haha

[static torrent]

I'm not sure why it doesn't, honestly, so it could be that I'm also incorrect and that it works in some different manner.

[civic warren]

Is there any good witch not chaos or minion build? Or at least not full minion goddamn i thought witch is more fun

[carmine flicker]

blood mage is bleed based caster

[potent hearth]

would be great if we had phys spells XD

[vast jay]

does anyone know if we can change the venom crypts reward now? or not

[carmine flicker]

blood mage can bleed with any element

[carmine flicker]

no

[potent hearth]

bleed from every element is just so weird

why bleed instead of like burning?

[carmine flicker]

well
here is your bleed from giant cold meteor
what? you were stuck with GIANT COLD METEOR
you should be bleeding mess on the floor now!

[potent hearth]

that's not bleeding that puréeing

goes from 3 dimension mob to 2 dimension mob on the ground

[carmine flicker]

well
somehow now
mob is now bleeding
and frozen

[white niche]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/1a57 Not sure what to work on first for my build, any suggestions? Doing GA build

[carmine flicker]

you even seen frozen statue bleed

here you are

[still rock]

boner storm lich probably isnt that bad

considering its biggest problem was fluid clear

[potent hearth]

the skill feels so underwhelming though

stand there and cast to poke a few meters in front of you :x

[still rock]

we need boner vortex

just turn all the blade spells from poe into boners

boner blast

boner fall

[potent hearth]

the gimmick of bonerstorm is impale... which doesn't work on spells like wtf?

yeah I should stop trying to play a caster it just frustrates me

[toxic mason]

GGG was giving interaction to skills that only interact with itselfs

[carmine flicker]

Just do elemental sundering
It look and feel like caster
Well
It's attack, but who care

It's really cool looking screen wide aoe

[potent hearth]

imma crash my steam deck lol

[oblique marlin]

hey folks, what is the best jewel for lich? for **Crystalline Phylactery ** socket?

[still rock]

yeah i think it was designed as a thing for minion builds to do instead of spamming the command move because the skeletons are stuck on a rock somewhere in africa

but the latter seems more common

[carmine flicker]

Wdym?

[north pivot]

Anyone know/have tested if the Smith's 'On Hit Fire Spell' ascendancy works with if your Artillerry Ballista does the hit damage?

[carmine flicker]

It was for hybrid minion/caster witch
That just doesn't really work
But GGG keep trying

[potent hearth]

too much effects going on at the same time and I have negative framerate

[carmine flicker]

Then go ragestomp
No graphic effect, easy damage, can play with 1 fps

[carmine flicker]

No

[still rock]

only melee attacks from you

[potent hearth]

I was tempted by crossbow but with auto aiming idk if it feels good

[carmine flicker]

You have autoaim?

[still rock]

TIL autoaim exists lol

[potent hearth]

idk my character picks a target near me with a controller XD

[still rock]

i havent done controller yet

[potent hearth]

I can aim with a stick but eh

[still rock]

dont think i ever will tbh

[potent hearth]

game doesn't run on my PC :x

[carmine flicker]

Cool I guess
I need to click mouse on things to kill them(and everything around)

[potent hearth]

I might try cloud gaming though

[still rock]

i just need a better CPU to keep up with the hectic points but i run the game well relatively

better than poe1 in some parts

[potent hearth]

I have an i5 3450 :/

[carmine flicker]

Or go tank with minions
Can do at -1 fps

[teal frigate]

i am confused by infuse weapon. it does not explicitly say it cannot shock enemies which makes me think that it can but when i check in path of bulding there is no shock chance displayed there but there is for the lightning spear for example. can anybody help please?

[carmine flicker]

Who care, minions do the lifting

[potent hearth]

my pc is a beast that has lasted me almost 10years now.. but it's now too much for it haha

[carmine flicker]

Sadly only thing poe2 does better than poe1 is warming my room

(using my laptop as a medium)

It really BURN

[potent hearth]

oof laptop

[still rock]

perhaps its not modeled in pob yet

dont quote me tho

[teal frigate]

no im stupid, i didnt notice that i still was set on cold infused. sorry and thansk for the reply

[still rock]

np

theres like 1000 numbers and words everywhere i get lost sometimes too

[potent hearth]

where should I look for builds for 0.2? is there a minion build that's still ok?

so I can just walk around on my steam deck XD

[carmine flicker]

Vaal smth smth spectres

[still rock]

vaal guard spectres

[carmine flicker]

Look then in Google

[still rock]

the mortar ones

(theres 4 kinds of vaal guards lol)

downside is that you cant see anything on the screen

covers everything in fire

[carmine flicker]

With 0 fps does it matter?

[potent hearth]

can't do that on steam deck then

[sleek iris]

if anyone is interested, the only way to get Dark Effigy to "auto target" mobs, without manually cursing them is by using Withering Presence.

[potent hearth]

dynamic resolution gets low.. like you can count pixels

[still rock]

thats odd, withering presence doesnt do damage

[sleek iris]

i tried almost everything with blasphemy and it just WONT do it

for some reason withering was the only way to accomplish it lol

i ain't mad at it, tbh

[carmine flicker]

You shouldn't use it tho
Report it and don't use

Withering isn't dot
So it's a bug

Using bug can get you banned

[sleek iris]

lol

[carmine flicker]

(it was a joke. Or no. After those bans I can't be sure)

[sleek iris]

i'll stop using it, if they restore hexblast to its former glory

tbh they should have nerfed the damage that hexblast did, and not by adding some arbitrary timegate mechanic

[carmine flicker]

I deleted poe2, to not accidentally do smth ban worthy, lol
Don't want account wide ban that will block me from next poe1 league

[carmine flicker]

Poe2 IS about arbitrary gating mechanics
It's not bad
It's how it is

[sleek iris]

it just makes no sense at all. it's gonna make hexblast become a dead skill that like.... 2 people use

why does half the curse need to expire, for me to explode the thing? 0 sense

[carmine flicker]

It's meaningful and interactive

[static talon]

Question, Was there any additional methods of reducing duration added in 0.2.0? curious if its still only Fast forward and the 3 (+1 from forthcoming annointment) for EQ

[carmine flicker]

If you don't get that - go play your one button click simulator for plebs, called POE1

[sleek iris]

it was 100% of the reason i even wanted to pick the Lich. now i kinda regret picking lich. i'm making due, but i won't recommend the ascendancy to anyone

they could have easily just nerfed the damage it does

instead of.... the dumbest way to nerf anything that i've ever seen

[neon zenith]

Just found these in the first area, not fully understadding, I assume with little damage (early game) and being a lightning focused build, probably not really usefull?

[still rock]

ignore they exist

[carmine flicker]

They did
By 8% or smth

[still rock]

and live blissfully ignorant

[sleek iris]

they actually increased the damage that hexblast did previous to 0.2

[carmine flicker]

Lol

They contradict their own patch notes or smth

[sleek iris]

but made it so there's a 3-4 second delay after you curse something, until you can use the skill

it's the most bizarre thing i think i've ever seen anyone do as a nerf

[carmine flicker]

You meant to stack reduced duration for 1 second curse

And then react in time before it ends

[sleek iris]

that might make it more viable

[carmine flicker]

You have whole 0.5 second window!

[sleek iris]

dude everything is dead before you can even use hexblast the way it sits lol so it's useless

the ONLY thing that stays alive that long is maybe a boss

[still rock]

they want it to be a skill you use as a finisher for rare mobs basically

[sleek iris]

but on top of that, there's no indication as to how long the curse has left before it expires. so you don't even know when you can use hexblast lmao

[still rock]

which works well for chaos dot builds but youre unable to build singularly into hexblast anymore

[carmine flicker]

If you can't do the simple chill/curse/hexblast combo every second for each pack you are unskilled noob and should uninstall to not dirty this perfect game with your presence

[sleek iris]

yeah, that's a good point

lol

[carmine flicker]

(I didn't overdo it with sarcasm I hope)

[vast jay]

with the preferences of the POE1 playerbase, there was a decent chance this game would actually only use 2 buttons

[carmine flicker]

That's exactly how much everyone use on poe1

[vast jay]

i know.. they could change the whole ui to just focus around WASD and "Q" and "E" as action buttons, and call it a POE day

[carmine flicker]

Except so far I used one in poe2
Cause no move skill
So no reason to press second button

[vast jay]

this is the reason I never really got into POE1... game was build too much of mindlessly easy gameplay with mostly one button builds

POE2 is marginally better.. but only marginally

[bold moss]

does anyone know if self-hit effects trigger charms?

[carmine flicker]

They probably aren't dead on the idea to move poe1 players to poe2
And if they do wasd platformer.. poe1 players wouldn't do that ever

[vast jay]

i play this for a while to kill time and rot braincells, and then go back to league of legends

[bold moss]

ie, if I hit myself with the fireflower amulet, would it trigger a ruby charm?

[carmine flicker]

Easy gameplay?
I had hundreds hours in pob to before that 'one click' start to do the job

[vast jay]

i have prably 350 hours in POE1

but even with multi button builds, the content is too easy for me

and i didn't even use premade builds

i would read a few premade builds, then just wing it

[carmine flicker]

You can do ubers day 3 like easy?

[vast jay]

i can't bring myself to play through that much of the game

i've only done a little bit of mapping, because playing the game is too boring for me.. I quite literally fell asleep and hit my head on the desk playing POE1 once

[still rock]

can yall argue abt poe 1 vs poe 2 somewhere else? this is like the fourth time youve specifically baited someone into the same argument in the past day

nobody carez

[vast jay]

who are you talking about? i have not talked about poe1 in here ever

[still rock]

not u

[carmine flicker]

Hey, it wasn't me this time

[carmine flicker]

That was first poe1 mention

[weary elbow]

which ascendancy should i use to make use of lycosidae shield as huntress?

[vast jay]

does anyone know if huntress frozen lance is counted as chilled ground? it looks like it is, but tooltip doesn't mention chilled ground

[carmine flicker]

Also i will quit this chat and leave everyone well alone when ggg stop posting poe2 shit on poe1 site
Use poe2 one, damn it

[muted spire]

Guys i wanna focus on lighting spear huntress which asc should i go for

[still rock]

nop unfortunately not

it's its own thing

[still rock]

prob amazon

[lime prairie]

Does anyone know where the 10spirit terracotta warrior is?
Wanna make a meme minion build with it

[vast jay]

the answer is always amazon unless you know exactly why you are picking ritualist

[still rock]

i think your best option for chilled ground is prob frostbolt

[vast jay]

ya, that is what im using for frost... and im using explosive arrow for fire, which just feels better because its a semi useful skill too

[still rock]

or if you want to be weird and wacky for no reason you could use birth of fury stone greaves/wake of destruction and bitterment support on twister

[vast jay]

if i could get frozen lance to reliably freeze, i could use chilled ground with freeze support

currently im level 58, and i play ssf, so we'll see what drops

[still rock]

reset rare beast mobs to find a trail of ice monster mod

other possible way

for tame beast

[vast jay]

i just saw a cool looking frozen gorilla with "all damage chills" that would have been fun

[still rock]

the more i think abt it the more invoker twister sounds good

[vast jay]

i think it would be really good

[still rock]

cause they get free frost nexus basically

[vast jay]

yeah, and free shocked ground

[still rock]

tactician pin feels like i got baited but its still not Bad by any means

[vast jay]

those two alone would make it so good

[still rock]

i dont mind the beast shocked ground creation i just need to find a homie that doesnt stray off too far

quadrilla likes to go bang heads across the screen too much

[vast jay]

does the level of the tame beast gem do anything?

[still rock]

for this purpose no but it gives them more hp and flat atkndmg and such

so makes them live longer in maps where theyll probably die a lot

[vast jay]

so yer saying i can tame with any level gem... but i have to upgrade the gem to give the more hp and stuff

so i might as well tame with a bigger gem?

[still rock]

yeah doesnt really matter either way

same outcome

[sage tulip]

Is there anything that works well for casting when I cast a spell or would the best bet still be just to use cast on shock and such or is there something new ?

[wild sleet]

you mean like cast on?

[still rock]

most CoX builds are dead

since early 0.1

[sage tulip]

just want something to casr some other spells so I don't need to use so many buttons

[still rock]

yeah its still good for utility

just not shitting out damage

[wild sleet]

problem is building energy for cast on

you need to either dedicate node or jewels

[sage tulip]

its just to trigger other elemental effects or spells so I don't need to constantly be having to focus on rotation is all

[still rock]

youre acting like poe rotations are 8 buttons or somn lol

most builds just press 2-4

[vast jay]

8 buttons, im using 12!

[still rock]

do you actually press them all frequently tho

[sage tulip]

nah I just can't seem to get timing right on the cooldowns so it annoys me when I get the rotation wrong but if cast on is still the thing then I will just do cast on shock.

[still rock]

if you have the free spirit theres no downside in just trying it to see what the cast frequency is

[wild sleet]

I think it is not worth it as the cast on X trigger fairly infrequently. Cast on X are typically depend on your damage to either inflict an aliment or crit. both are hard to do.

[sage tulip]

I am doing an elemental lich build

[wild sleet]

it also depends on your spell

[vast jay]

im totally kidding, im not using 12 buttons..

my rotation is mostly 4, when i cast barrage, or 3 without

[icy kiln]

Anyone have any offmeta kinda tanky map blaster?

[still rock]

lich es stack or smith res stack are the two options for tanky rn

[wild sleet]

speaking of spells, I currently having serious damage shortage and I really can't find ways to scale damage efficiently

[icy kiln]

Lich you’re locked to chaos dot?

[still rock]

no

[vast jay]

what level / class / build

[sage tulip]

well on that note the thought would be arc with additional chains and casts so lightning is going all over.

[still rock]

lich is fairly open ended it just happens to be the best ascendancy for chaos dot and chaos dot got a very large damage buff

[sage tulip]

yeah not to mention you can also add chaos to all damage sources from one of the nodes.

[still rock]

that doesnt affect dots

[wild sleet]

bone storm blood mage at level 69. I just do not have growth right now. I am to kill many many things but i just do not have a place grow the damage to meet the higher levels of maps (so far at tier 3 is completely fine)

[sage tulip]

no but it adds more damage which is nice.

[icy kiln]

I was thinking about a voltaxic rift lightning arrow, but it’s probably shit

[still rock]

% gain doesnt affect dots so thats irrelevant to chaos dots, but very good for hit builds that stack mana

[sage tulip]

exactly.

[wild sleet]

I also have stupid amounts of mana cost and life cost issues

[sage tulip]

which is why I want archmage too.

[still rock]

lich could probably do that but youd be lightyears away from any relevant projectile clusters

[thorn bronze]

I think almost everyone has mana issues now

[icy kiln]

It makes me wanna go mom but then you can’t use the right side of your ascendancy

[still rock]

mana issues feel infinitely better to me than from 0.1 but thats also subjective

[vast jay]

@wild sleet have you checked out the many bonestorm bloodmage builds from 0.1? I don't think they changed radically other than the overall dmg nerfs.

[still rock]

id wager the gain x%, curse pop, and jewel slot probably goes hard tho

[vast jay]

@wild sleet this is my fav bonestorm bloodmage guide / build from 0.1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paCAr133wgc&t=152s

[icy kiln]

That’s true actually, I forgot about the curse pop

[still rock]

Also crown of eyes exists now

[icy kiln]

Yep I was looking at that too

[still rock]

easier to play attack builds when youre up in Antarctica

[icy kiln]

It’s sounding less and less bad, maybe it’ll work

Shock gloves could be sick too

[wild sleet]

i would check it out. I have run into the problem of damage drop off completely yet but I am trying make sure my damage is on par

[still rock]

@icy kiln https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/nikirochi-6050/NikirochiHuntWitch?i=0&search=class%3DLich%26skills%3DLightning%2BArrow

lmao

[halcyon solar]

If anything says smth like Allies/Attacks/xyz deal additional Cold Damage. is the precondition that you already have Cold damage which gets enhanced then, or does it always work because it's just a bonus?

[still rock]

theres ONE of them

is that off meta enough

[icy kiln]

Well shit there it is hahaha

[icy kiln]

Almost too off meta 😂

[sage tulip]

so papa juice since you know more than me, What do you think about elemental undead army lich witch build ? is tha feasable ?

I am running with painter's gloves

[still rock]

sounds all over the place

[icy kiln]

That dps looks bad but I know you can’t trust poe ninja dps

[vast jay]

can we see POE2 characters on the web anywhere yet?

[still rock]

yeah youd have to export it and configure it correctly

the only time poe ninja dps is accurate is when you configure it accurately and import it

from pob

[icy kiln]

I might try it

[still rock]

not publicly, its an opt-in API

thats what poe ninja uses

you have to opt in to it

[still rock]

sounds fun tbh

and high end is like 20-30k EHP

es is silly billy rn

[icy kiln]

Or do I go mom

Or you think hybrid mom/es?

Or just es???

[patent shell]

guys if i double convert from light to firte does it double dip then with 100% ???

[atomic halo]

no

[still rock]

im not sure, id have to sit down and compare - but you want mana anyways to get more gain chao damage

[atomic halo]

damage types dont remember their previous types pre-conversion like they do in poe1

so if light -> fire it's just fire, it wont benefit from light

also it's quite hard to double convert given that there is only 1 conversion step\

[static torrent]

Yeah, it's only the final damage type that matters.

[static torrent]

So even if you could convert everything a dozen times over, it wouldn't matter.

[atomic halo]

(except there is skill convert that goes first)

[vast jay]

so when i see this on a mob.. does this mean if i tame this... and run it.. that all my attacks would always bleed?

[atomic halo]

no

[vast jay]

how do we know what we are getting from a tamed beast?

[atomic halo]

its a modifier that modifies the monster not you

[still rock]

no its just for the companion

[atomic halo]

why would it apply to you

[vast jay]

people are talking abuot beasts giving them auras

[atomic halo]

if it did it would say something like "nearby allies always bleed" or something

[vast jay]

i see

okay

[still rock]

some of the monster mods are auras

https://poe2db.tw/us/Archnemesis

[small pebble]

Haste and elemental resistance apply to the player as well if the pet has it

[still rock]

heres list of them

has anyone done anything cool with spectral proj yet

[small pebble]

I have two conjure lightning storm pets rn and they melt bosses at cruel act 3 idk if they’ll be good later on tho but prob the most interesting thing they’ve added

[vast jay]

i feel like amazon would make a really good bow user.. because you would get surplus accuracy from the dex, and turn that into easy to get crit, plus the monster weakness speed and infusions

[small pebble]

Yeah you build huntress basically the same way as the archer at least for lightning builds the Amazon mostly runs off of frenzy charges though

For elemental infusion or whatever it’s called

[still rock]

amazon is a really good attack build user

in general

[vast jay]

i feel like when i get this huntress into maps, im going to want to switch the twister build to my invoker, and my quarterstaff build to the huntress (for elemental leech)

[bold moss]

What sources of reflect / self hit are in the game? there's scold's bridle, volatility, fireflower, overcharge support

anything else?

[patent shell]

so for example thunder spear skill which is meta right now and if i want to convert it to fire it dont work or what ? 80% is light and 20% is phys i think so this 80% and 20% ---> 75% of it getting converted into fire with avatar of fire no ?

[neon zenith]

where do I find my "chance to shock" so I can figure out which way I should go on my skill tree

[atomic halo]

yeah. that works

as i clarified after skill conversion does apply first

it's just relatively limited

[static torrent]

Check your skills, it's based on damage dealt so it's kinda individual per skill.

[neon zenith]

I don't see any chance to anything on mmy lightning arrow

[sage tulip]

what passives would I use if I am trying to cover the entire screen in arc blasts ? I know scattershot doesn't work but what supports would work ?

[static torrent]

Not in game so I can't check it, but I was at least under the impression that some Ailment-related info had been added to the skill panels. Maybe the chance didn't make it in.

[alpine lantern]

I see lots of essence drain players using chain. Does it not lower the damage of the dot?

[sterile spade]

is mercenary better than deadeye for crossbow build??

[atomic halo]

merc is a class deadeye is an ascendancy

[still rock]

no

just the hit

[sterile spade]

merc vs ranger for xbow??

[still rock]

deadeye

[sterile spade]

really??

[still rock]

yes

[sterile spade]

deadye performs better with xbow??

[atomic halo]

why not

look at the modifiers and points

[still rock]

do you want me to do a dance and wear a hat while i say it

[atomic halo]

if your answer is "but their promotional material shows merc holding a crossbow" you need to actually look at the game

[native burrow]

Does Unholy Might not have a skill effect? My minions are showing any, it can be hard to know if theyre in my presence when they aren't right next to me

[static torrent]

The association between class and weapon type are purely thematic and a suggestion, one of the strongest builds last update was a Mercenary wielding a Quarterstaff, for instance.

[woven otter]

Does anyone know if the explosion from armour explosion will trigger on death support gems???

[still rock]

be more specific

which gem in particular?

[woven otter]

If I pin an enemy, and have both armour explosion and bone shrapnel

If the armour explosion kills the pinned enemy, will they explode on death?

Both support are on same skill

[still rock]

i think?

im still lost on support gems supporting support gems but it does work in other cases

e.g. mag effect makes armour explosion bigger

[woven otter]

Ok, it seems logical but I cant know for sure cause bone shrapnel is super hard to see

[cursive girder]

For a huntress running elemental tornadoes, do you think it’s better to run a beast with trailing ground elements so I don’t have to use a spell in my rotation, or a haste aura cuz that’s just independently good for everyone?

[still rock]

the beast wont have 100% uptime

but its convenient

im using one

QoL vs. Optimal

basically

[patent shell]

he is using accuracy rating cause of the accuracy note of huntress and he says its like a 120phys dmg extra like 80% more dmg can someone explain me how it gets calculated on the weapon and if its stronger than a normal high phys dps spear ?

[trail wadi]

this is my tree of my huntress with Lighting build , i fell like i need to change it , where should i put my skill points when i refund them

[still rock]

you just calculate for accuracy and your ascendancy nodes, probably an easy pob

[dry pagoda]

at which lvls do advanced/expert items start appearing?

[still rock]

they removed them in lieu of actual named base types

[dry pagoda]

oh ok that confused me

[still rock]

so instead of repeating the same ones and adding a word in front of them they are all their own base types a la poe1

[dry pagoda]

much better

[still rock]

agreed

[white viper]

in pob where can I check my minion dps?

[dry pagoda]

so lets say a base says "Requires: Level 33" does it start dropping at that monster lvl? character lvl?

[still rock]

roughly

[neon zenith]

Ah I think I found it, so this is saying 1-2% chance of chill magnitude ailment, so out of curiosity, how do I tell if a monster has an "ailment" when I'm attacking

[static torrent]

It tends to affect their model and be visible under the Life bar at the top, when you're hovering over the enemy.

[mortal cloak]

So I’m making an invoker that uses storm wave and charged staff, mostly focusing on shock %, crit and ailments. Any suggestions for new uniques or any ailment/shock/crit uniques I might be able to utilize ?

[neon zenith]

So if a mob has even "1%" affected, this would increase my damage by 33%?

[static torrent]

I believe Ailments are discarded if the effect is under 5%, it's discarded, but as long as the ailment applies, then yes, that notable would apply.

[dusky wadi]

whats the max bow damage you can get on a quiver at lvl 50?

[vast jay]

...that is like asking the age of the universe, nobody knows

[ivory atlas]

should i be worried?

[vast jay]

yes

honestly

probably the person who built the binary was infected with the virus

[ivory atlas]

sure glad i didn't open it yet

[patent shell]

if i have a weapon which as 13%base critchance does it scale witz my weapon crit ?

[golden raft]

Does it round up or round down, I'm defeated whenever I use a chaos skill?

[atomic halo]

it says 5% crit right there

it'll use that number, not your weapon's

[versed tundra]

Can I fish for a 3rd modifier?

[patent shell]

ah ok thought its the base but if i get a higher base it uses the higher one

[silent cloak]

any viable tempest flurry zoom invoker builds? cant really seem to find any references for this patch

[weak rain]

is witchhunter preferred over gemling now?

[mortal cloak]

suggestions for crit/ele/shock storm wave build? any uniques I could potentially use?

[vast jay]

nobody knows... they nerfed sokme builds for every ascendancy.... i think there will still be str stacking gemling builds that rise

[obsidian nimbus]

anyone got any simple builds that seem decent? about to start playing new patch

[vast jay]

the easiest build this patch seems to be spear-rake+stomping ground.... you can run it on anything, but warrior, amazon, gemling seem the best

[lime prairie]

So I just realized that raging skulls got turned unplayable
But why

[obsidian nimbus]

oh sick

[vast jay]

yes

[obsidian nimbus]

i love bleed builds

[vast jay]

@obsidian nimbus its a strength stacking build, not a bleed build

[lime prairie]

But why tho

[vast jay]

rake is not the dmg....

[obsidian nimbus]

oh

: (

[vast jay]

the dmg is stomping ground, which triggers each "step" and rake takes 3 steps

so you get 100% of your str, hitting 3x per "free" rake cast

in aoe

free because you never need to rank up rake

you can add bleed on hit from passives later if you want it to bleed... but the rake bleed will never do any notable dmg

[patent shell]

how do u guys manage to get 100% critchance if ur base crit of ur skill is just 5% ? dont u need then 900% inc critchance to get something around 50% critchance ?

[vast jay]

amazon has a skill that causes overcap accuracty to turn into crit

and it makes it very easy to get crit capped

[atomic halo]

you get more flat crit from sources like the one notable on the tree for +1, huntress, and critical weakness

[vast jay]

what class are you asking about?

[pearl sluice]

Does anyone know a way to decrease heavy stun from falling off your Chocobo?

[mortal cloak]

im level 67, have multiple in combat crit boosts and stuff that doesn't display in tooltip plus no crit on weapon

My in combat crit shows 65% but I have like 10% more that isn't shown if I'm attacking mobs that are ailed, etc...

[mortal cloak]

My build is fun 😄 and super good

[patent shell]

how much is ur base crit ?

[mortal cloak]

5% I think?

[obsidian nimbus]

what is it

[patent shell]

wtf

[vast jay]

your base crit depends on your weap;on/skill

spear base crit is 5%, most quarterstaffs are 10% ish

[mortal cloak]

Quarter staff monk, invoker, elemental tri-brid with shock/lightning focus

I'm link combat one sec, I just hit maps

[patent shell]

how the fuck did u manage to get so much critchance with a bad base of 5% ? its like 1.75% every 35% inc ??

[mortal cloak]

It was a littttle slow till like level 12-15, but by level 18-20 I was killing stuff fast and I one shotted rare mobs through most of cruel after I bought some rings/weapon off trade site@obsidian nimbus

[patent shell]

wit ha quarterstaff u should have more crit ase

[trail wadi]

If I get stuck what should I do ? Farm bosses until I get better ?

[patent shell]

base

[steady flint]

Any way to take advantage of this? Only Infernalist and Lich can comfortably stay low life..

Issue with Inferbalist is that i would like the "Grinning Immolation" node that self ignites, but i also want to use ES as a defansive layer. Do we have any way of regening consistantly through damage except "Eternal Youth" keystone?

Going Lich would be far easier, but idk if its better than Atziri anyways

[mortal cloak]

I've seen loads of huntress with 100%+ crit chance too

[vast jay]

its magic... we have the cheat code

[obsidian nimbus]

idc about slow start

[agile mortar]

Anyone use this bleed build?
I don't get spearfield. It's much less effective for clear so far (lvl 49). Rake is more efficient for ST and AoE it seems.

[patent shell]

u have a quarterstaff i think ur base isnt 5%

[trail wadi]

How exactly do I use the frenzy charges because u always get like 30 but then they fade away

[vast jay]

i found huntress 1-shotting full screens from level 7..... just a few bosses took a little while, spear is stupid overpowered

[bold oxide]

sounds like youre looking at the counter for Volt support

[wintry whale]

what can detonate storm lance

[mortal cloak]

It doesn't matter tho I've seen a bunch of people using spear with 100%+

[trail wadi]

Mm volt I see but I don’t get volt support gem until act 3 so what do I do

[wintry whale]

can ball lightning?

[patent shell]

all quartstaffs are 10% anf if u inc that u get like 15% then ofc its worth to go crit XDD but i have 5% which is terrible so every 10% inc of crit is like 3times less effective on me like u get XDD

[bold oxide]

i dont understand what youre asking then. you said you had frenzy charges but they were fading away?

[trail wadi]

I have a skill that it says that it consumes frenzy but I don’t see anything changing when I’m with 30 charges or 0

[mortal cloak]

@obsidian nimbus

[bold oxide]

you cant have 30 frenzy charges so you must be looking at something else

[round marten]

are there any equipment modifiers/(non "thorns" passives that boost thorns dmg?

[trail wadi]

I put the frenzy support skil gem to the basic attack and then I do basics and I see them go up to 30 it’s like a square with a red face

[covert cargo]

Any late game ritualists in channel? What are the best passive points after extra ring slot?

[bold oxide]

also what skill exactly are you talking about

[bold oxide]

frenzy charge icon is a green circle

so youre looking at something else

[mortal cloak]

@obsidian nimbuscharge infusion makes it hard to keep up charged staff tho idk if I'll keep using it so you can ignore that

[quiet folio]

With the lycosidae unique + pentrate node, does it double the accuracy rating on the spears and doubles the phys dmg you get from penetrate node?

[versed tundra]

Does "increased life recovery rate" apply to life regen, life recharge, flask healing, and periodic healing from Time of Need?

[patent shell]

do triggered skills also cost me mana ?

[vast jay]

no, it only applied to "recovery"... aka regeneration

i mean, recovery, regen, recharge are the same thing i think

but flasks and other stuff are not

flasks are "restore"

[steady flint]

Yes

[steady flint]

No, penetrate only works with local accuracy.
Can use accuracy runes though

[inland pivot]

I'm working on a spectre build, is this the place to post about it?

[mortal cloak]

Did eye of winter get nerfed? I thought in EA League it debuffed the mob to take more crits but I don't see that anymore?

[blazing stratus]

What does upgrading spirit gem levels actually do? i.e. in Witch I'm looking at Blasphemy/Withering Presence and not seeing any improvements via the tooltip

[mortal cloak]

Anyone used this? Wonder how decent it would be for elemental build....can't find what else to use 60 spirit on and then would also have 2x heralds to turn off at bosses for something else xD

[patent shell]

can i use mark and curse same time in poe 2 ? or its like in poe 1 ?

[neon zenith]

when looking at other builds, do the colors mean first / second / third ect? or where can I find the colors

[bold oxide]

weapon sets

[zinc linden]

yup, nerfed

[mortal cloak]

Damn idk what to do with these last spirit points now

I've got herald of thunder and ice + all the good gems slotted into them and 60 spirit left over

Guess I'll grab blink

might try swapping blink + herald of ice for Trinity on bosses

or the curse one? idk....

Could do herald of ash too but idk

[radiant wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm8GevYxAIc&ab_channel=JudgeDredd

That how my viper fight looks like

[mortal cloak]

Normal viper killed me like 5-6 times but cruel mode I killed her before she did anything 😄

Oh you're grenades, I did that in EA League to like 88

[radiant wraith]

i have 3000 % stun buildup on flash grenade

[mortal cloak]

Yea I used gas grenades instead but flash as well and then explo to nuke

[radiant wraith]

i use painters gloves

[mortal cloak]

I put delayed explosion and longer skill duration on explosive grenades, used gas mainly, just preshot explosive and let it be a "trap" for bosses and stuff

[dusky wadi]

what exactly does this mean?

[radiant wraith]

exactly what it says

[zinc linden]

+D

[radiant wraith]

projectile speed increase will increase dmg when you use a bow

[mortal cloak]

^

[radiant wraith]

projectile speed decrease will reduce the dmg when you use a bow

simple as that

[dusky wadi]

huh.

alright

[radiant wraith]

so for example

with this one equipped

a gem that gives you 40 % projectile speed

now gives you 40 % projectile speed and 40 % bow dmg

[dusky wadi]

oh thats insane

also is bursting plauge actually worth it?

[jolly gust]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Silks_of_Veneration
anyone can explain the line
"Current Energy Shield also grants Elemental Damage reduction" ?
is it based on on % ES as ele Reduction or is it like 100 ES 100 Ele shield

[mortal cloak]

Is there not a way to check what mats u need for anoints in the passive tree anymore? Or compare the gains of each node?

[jolly gust]

hold alt when point at node it should show them

[mortal cloak]

It just shows a little pin now that let's me unlock the window but nothing else

[torn sage]

Is twister or bleed stronger in late maps

[static plinth]

Basically, every 1 current energy shield you have also becomes 1 armour that applies only to elemental damage

Its mid as hell

Opportunity Cost is probably too high

[patent shell]

why nobody is using this since the hp buff changes ? ive seen most streamer take more than 3 min for bosses isnt this helmet than op for 3 min fights cause u need less than 1 minute for 200% more dmg

ah ok its increased dmg

thought its the same like poe 1 gladiator

XD

[high rivet]

what are the ways we know of to break armor, i know of warbringer, resonating shield, is there a unique or something that adds ways to make hits that dont normally break armour do so

[proud condor]

There's a support gem

[high rivet]

splinter?

[proud condor]

Yes

[high rivet]

hmmm, i mean that is another source

im hoping for another way

cause my attack wont do a lot of damage

[proud condor]

Those are your only options

[high rivet]

nothing else?

dang

[proud condor]

Splinter + Demolisher

[high rivet]

trying to figure out easy ways to keep scavenged plating going

on non-warbringer

[proud condor]

That aura just seems bad

[high rivet]

im doing thorns build

[proud condor]

Perhaps I'm missing something though

[high rivet]

so i need it

[proud condor]

Ah...

Yeah, it's good for you

[high rivet]

thorns is so good so far

i just wanna try other ascendancies with it

[proud condor]

Just do this

[high rivet]

but currently the solution seems to be, use resonating or something to break their armour

[proud condor]

Shockwave Totem - Splinter - Martial Tempo

[high rivet]

hm

that could work, but it still wont do that much damage

im not scaling melee damage like at all

[proud condor]

It does

Because totems have their own base damage

[high rivet]

oh fair

[proud condor]

Just go Shockwave Totem - Splinter - Brutality

Martial Tempo reduces the intervals and delay before the initial hit

But if you believe damage is that big of an issue, brutality is your strongest support

Damage scaling through thorns is difficult

But you can scale totem and thorns damage twofold

[high rivet]

im not worried about the thorns scaling, i got it covered

[proud condor]

There's a helm causing enemies in presence to be considered on low life

Then there's a 3 node cluster at warrior for 180% increased damage to low life enemies

Scales all sources of damage

That should be enough to make your shockwave totem instantly armour break

[patent shell]

how does that get calculated with exposure and with flammablilty ?

[proud condor]

You mean those gloves?

They're additive

[stable hemlock]

is there anything in this game that could cause my characters armor broken debuff to be permanently on my character making me die alot

[proud condor]

Example, enemy has 30 res, your curse lowers it by 20, you have 20 pen, damage is calculated as if the enemy has -10 res.

Without those gloves, in PoE2, pen can't go past 0.

[sterile spade]

What is this add-on with Green text

[ashen anchor]

im i the onlt one lagging tonight?

[static plinth]

You mean PoB?

[neon zenith]

Gotcha, is there a way to see which one is which

[patent shell]

so in that case expousre + curse + pen can be combined ? wouldnt these gloves then be extemly op ?

[river geode]

for people playing smith warriors what is the usual choice for the venom vials?

[shy lantern]

Do i just look at physical dps from the poe trading site for my blood huntress or does elemental also play a part?

[proud condor]

Yes and no. That functionality is default in PoE1

[river geode]

I can't see this on poe ninja for other smith of kitavas

[proud condor]

And in PoE2, you forgo gloves and it's still hard capped at -50%

[neat bison]

Probably stun and chaos, might be an argument for ele threshold if you get stun on the tree

I’d still wager stun just because of cast times tho

[patent shell]

is 200k hit dps pob enough for endgame or meh ?

[vast jay]

is that a humble brag? its more than enough to start maps

[proud condor]

I would imagine he means difficulty 4 content

Idk, 'endgame' has relative meanings for everyone

I feel like 200k DPS would be okay for early pinnacles

[patent shell]

ive seen on youtube that people fight bosses in tier 10 maps with 1.6 mil hp thats why i though it should be enough with 200k dps the boss is finished under some seconds i guess ?

also as smith of kitava its rly hard to get high dps u are extremly tanky but u lack extemly of damage compared to those huntress ascendancy notes where u can double ur dmg basicly with those weakness and flat dmg accuracy stuff

[proud condor]

https://youtu.be/VTp7BMODZbA?feature=shared

I had much lower DPS than 200k

And was doing difficulty 2 T15 maps fine

200k should be comfortable.

[proud niche]

Does anyone know if there a tooltip error on Daevata's Wind spear. The weapon stipulate (30–60)% increased Melee Damage if you've dealt a Projectile Attack Hit in the past eight seconds. But I do see the reflection of the increase damage on my shield charge?

do not see*

Nvm it work

[trail monolith]

what are the best Beasts to tame right now? Aside from Quadrilla

[storm hinge]

May have already been asked but do the beetlebite boots only aggravate when they ENTER presence or does it still proc if they're already in my presence?

[inland pivot]

Does flame wall count as a real ignite

[mellow pike]

Is there a freeze build for huntres?

[sonic shuttle]

can i change the spectre that I summon or do I need to create a new gem?

[dusky wadi]

does "projectile damage" increases increase poison damage for poison ranger on poisonburst arrow or do i need to increase my chaos damage/physical directly

[gray ferry]

Will Cast on Critical work if you have it set to your weapon swap?

[vast jay]

quarterstaff ice strike

[dusky wadi]

would poison burst arrow do more poison dot damage if i added chaos infusion or no? or would the reduction in physical damage be not worth it?

[normal pumice]

If the projectile skill'ps damage increases, the poison damage also increases, i.e. projectile damage works

[dusky wadi]

what about the thing i posted just before this about chaos infusion?

[normal pumice]

Poison burst arrow has inherent poison damage afaik, my best guess is you wouldn't need to route through chaos damage for it. Never played it though

[normal pumice]

For the purpose of CoI? Should be.

[vast jay]

nixie what level are you?

[dusky wadi]

53

[vast jay]

and what is the core of your build? are you using toxic growth? because thats' the biggest poison burst im aware of

[dusky wadi]

poisonburst arrow, so mainly raw poison dot

[orchid fable]

Has anyone be able to made a thorns build wit SoK? im about to give up

[normal pumice]

Is this correct? After curse the enemy got 10 res left, 20 pen then treats it as if the enemy has 8 res. Pen can't go pelow 0.

[vast jay]

@dusky wadi and have you tried toxic growth? the way it works, is you cast toxic growth on the ground (with persistcen support) and then you shoot two poison burst arrows onto it, and then they explode amplifying your poision dmg by like 8x

[dusky wadi]

i use toxic growth here and there but its not like my builds damage is BAD i was just asking questions for min maxin

[vast jay]

ahh

[normal pumice]

Curse + Exposure are additive reductions to resistances, i.e. if using both you may get enemy resistances to below 0. Both happen first in the calculation of resistances.
Resistances penetration only applies to existing resistances, i.e. if you lowered enemy resistances to 0 or below 0, there's nothing left to penetrate.

[dusky wadi]

im doing like a weird mix of witch and ranger rn

its fun @vast jay

[vast jay]

whats the witch stuff?

BTW, i love the way the rolling slam rogue-hero shouts "i have never been bested" right before he dies

[dusky wadi]

despair, contagion and withering presence

[vast jay]

interesting... that must cut into your dex alot, do you not have the dex to attack speed converstion? i guess that makes sense if you are mostly dots

[dusky wadi]

i dont even know how to do the conversion

[vast jay]

omg i forgot how much easier act 6 dorani is compared to act 6 viper napuzzi

[normal pumice]

I like the idea! So refreshing ppl experimenting skill swapping like this.

[dusky wadi]

dot damage kinda goes crazy with this, its prolly not as fast as toxic burst spam but its fun

[dusky wadi]

ah thats too far from my stuff to be worth it

[vast jay]

hmm

[dusky wadi]

plus i just need 6 stacks of poison on someone and they just start dying

[vast jay]

poison doesn't benefit from lots of AS anyway, because you can't stack that many poisions

[normal pumice]

I can imagine, imo more fun to play like this than following meta build x by y.

[vast jay]

i recommend experimenting with toxic growth more... because when i had it all specced up, 2x toxic growth with poison on it would do 1/3-1/2 of a boss's health

[normal pumice]

I try to get some faster ailments damage and magnitude

[vast jay]

and if your poison is doing that much dmg... the toxic growth amp should be huge

[dusky wadi]

yeah im doing a chaos damage mix since the boosters for chaos are massive

[vast jay]

is poison not chaos?

[dusky wadi]

it is

[vast jay]

so this should all amp toxic growth

[dusky wadi]

like i said its not that i DONT use tox croth

growth

i just dont use it as much

[vast jay]

when you use it.. does it do like 4 seconds worth of your dots?

when it blows?

honestly it should do more

[dusky wadi]

for some reason balbala is kicking my ass

[vast jay]

campaign complete (again)

[dusky wadi]

oh i see why shes murdering me

shes resistant to chaos

[vast jay]

zouch

[dusky wadi]

i think. red means resistant right?

[vast jay]

GGG: will you please, for the love of all that is holy in gaming, let us buy from the hideout vendors without taking the currency out of our stash! 🙂

[nimble hound]

any good frost builds while lvling?

why does it do such low dmg

[inland pivot]

Yo

What's the biggest stun damage slam

I'm cooking

[vast jay]

is rarity still where it's at?

[sturdy trench]

Did shield charge got buffed or something? Its hitting so hard wtf

[vast jay]

its probably becasue they nerfed other skills, and nerfed enemy (health), so it feels buffed

[tribal dew]

Hi. i have a companion with "conjures lighting storms" is there any support that would actually affect it? it doesnt seem to be affected by supports.

[nimble hound]

help me with a frost lvling build. what support gems to put into frostwall

cascade and what else

[vast jay]

i just got this huntress into maps... do mobs feel faster to anyone else?

[still rock]

correct, monster mods are unaffected by supports

BUT i think certain things can buff it? someone did some experimenting with that

[tribal dew]

all the ones i tried doesnt seem to do anything. which would

[still rock]

one sec, ill have to ping the guy

[tribal dew]

the ones i tried only affect the minion normally

[high rivet]

how much ES do i need for t15s?

so i dont get one shot

im trying to theorycraft a build and need a bit of input

[still rock]

@hidden hill hello sir we are calling for backup on companion info

is there any way to buff their lightning storm ?

[tribal dew]

Yes. original message is I have a companion with "conjures lighting storms" is there any support that would actually affect it? it doesnt seem to be affected by any supports that i have tried.

[tribal dew]

last league 0.1 was maybe around 8k es? i dont know now. 8k would be 16k with grim feast... and that was comfortable doing t15 but that was with minions so im not sure. sorry

[still rock]

ill re-iterate that supports dont affect them, thats for sure but:

#2┃build-planning message

something abt their base dmg value scales the storm ig?

idk im not a minion player traditionally lol

[high rivet]

im using a lot of uniques, so its eating up a lot of the potential ES

[still rock]

i mean at what point is it overkill lol

10k EHP should be comfy as hell

i seen people with upwards of 30k EHP at the high end

[high rivet]

i only have like, 4k es and 1.5k non-reserved life

its tiny

[still rock]

ehp takes all defenses into account not just health+es pool

[high rivet]

i do have 1000% crit multi though

lol

[brave gyro]

I really enjoy using explosive spear, is there a way to generate frenzy charges without disengage to use the spear more consistently?

[midnight obsidian]

use the new cull the weak skill

[still rock]

combat frenzy and find a way to pin/elec/frez

[high rivet]

with 100% crit chance

its a thorn build

as infernalist

[brave gyro]

kk is it worth just using that over disengage? It's just like the monk's killing palm right?

[midnight obsidian]

yep

[still rock]

disengage is so wonky man

[midnight obsidian]

disengage moves you backwards so more walking vs dashing forward

[still rock]

it needs better targeting too

[brave gyro]

gotcha I guess with frostfang I can basically generate frenzy charges pretty easily once I get combat frenzy

[midnight obsidian]

I tried using it as a movement skill by spinning my mouse but that doesn't always work out

[brave gyro]

It's a lvl 8 skill gem isn't it?

[midnight obsidian]

5/7 I think?

[brave gyro]

yeah I tried doing so in act 1 and I have no idea why you just STOP for like half a sec after you use it

[still rock]

the most accessible way early on to unlock combat frenzy is to use bushwhack boots assuming you are doing some phys dmg

can hold you off until you have a better solution

[brave gyro]

kk ty for the suggestions

[high rivet]

is there any other way, other than belt or gloves uniques, to leech life as ES instead?

[midnight obsidian]

when I levelled briefly with explosive spear I just waited for it to blow up 2x with overlimit

[high rivet]

or is there a way to leech phys damage as ES

[midnight obsidian]

was kind of expecting it to stick to the enemy like explosive arrow fuses but alas

[still rock]

soul tether is the only current way:

overflow life leech goes to ES

but it also means youll have to deal with the es degen

trade-off

oh you said other than unique

no

oh TIL the gloves

yeah essentia sanguis sounds better than soul tether

didnt know that existed until now

[high rivet]

essentia sanguis as well yeah

the reason im sort of like

having issues with the belt is im using cowards legacy

for pain attunement

[still rock]

im assuming theyre trying to stay way from easily accessible forms of ES leech as that had design issues in poe1 at certain times of the meta

[high rivet]

here, let me link my current planned POB, i have everything the gear is asking for, except saitha and essentia

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/gvi2l001

skills/ suppoets not set up atm

no rings atm either

this is all based around thorns as well, so its not counting the 108% crit bonus for thorns

i probably need to give up damage for defense

and im probably doing some bad pathing and other dumb stuff

[hidden hill]

@still rock Sorry I missed this earlier. Let me catch up and see if there is an answer to that.

[high rivet]

its also a lot of travelling nodes

[still rock]

interesting, how are you getting thorns -> fire dmg

[still rock]

i think it was mostly how the monster mods scale with companion base stats

[hidden hill]

So essentially, from my experiments so far. Monster base stats scale off the multipliers found on this page: https://poe2db.tw/us/Monster#Monster. Under the tab on the far right are the individual multpliers each monster individual monster runs.

[still rock]

actually i have no clue how thorns dmg functions or if it can be converted

[high rivet]

where do you see the thorns damage?

i was looking in pob earlier

i was just working off how i know it scales

[still rock]

ngl i dont even know, thorns has been a meme for a decade lol

[still rock]

very handy - so im assuming damage % is scaling the monster mod spells as well?

e.g. conjure lightning storm

[hidden hill]

Yes, at least it appears to be.

[still rock]

how did you test? im mostly curious

(ggg give target dummy pls)

[atomic halo]

note that thorns is secndary damage

[still rock]

what does that mean exactly?

[atomic halo]

it's not attack damage nor spell damage

which makes it a touch difficult to scale

[still rock]

can it be converted tho?

[atomic halo]

everything else is normal, yeah

[still rock]

word

[hidden hill]

Functionally, I've been collecting a variety of different companions. However, the DB also has a secondary way to confirm the calc. If you visit a zone page related to a monster it has the formula's a monster on that map uses for damage calc. The monster multiplier from the first page always shows up in their damage calc there. And it should be applying to Companion rares.

[still rock]

mark must have a hard-on for thorns damage the way theyre trying so hard to make it work lol

[still rock]

oo, ty

i was trying to figure out how to digest those pages

theres a lot of info and im not a minion guy previously

[hidden hill]

Additionally, Companion percentage scales directly correlate to their spirit cost as a spectre. So if they inherit that property they also inherit other properties from that chart.

[still rock]

good info

[high rivet]

it feels pretty good

sorry was gone for a sec

[still rock]

np

[high rivet]

yeah it can be converted/scaled etc.

with briarpatch corrupted

you can get like 36.5% base crit chance

so im 100% crit with this build atm

and 1000% crit multi

the defenses are what im having issues with

i also have 10% leech, 20% instant leech and leech converted to es

[still rock]

can thorns crit?

[high rivet]

yes

[still rock]

lol word

[high rivet]

it can also apply ailments

it was supposed to be able to before, but it was bugged

[atomic halo]

you just need to give them crit as they have no base crit

[still rock]

this info is good for if they ever release a thorns ascendancy

[high rivet]

yeah

[hidden hill]

Functionally, as a gameplay example, I tamed a Bramble Burrower from Hunting Grounds today as I stumbled on one with some desired modifiers. I've gotten Yriel's Fostering into play so I run both it and my Quadrilla with Conjure Lightning Storms now while I progress towards farming Gilded Beetles and Crested Behemoths. The Burrower appears to do more damage, have better hp Scaling, etc from the stats page.

[high rivet]

but yeah, 36.5% base crit is insane

[still rock]

gotcha

[high rivet]

and since im infernalist, this can apply a scaling ignite

and it also does bleeds

[still rock]

yeah ill aim for a beetle myself as well but ill have to find a checkpoint spot to reload

[hidden hill]

Unfortunately, beetle is from trial of Trials of the Sekhama. Something I had not realized when doing research. So it'll be a rough farm for one.

[still rock]

wonder if the hourglass reset can work

[hidden hill]

Since its specific to trial 2 only.

[still rock]

oof

then nvm

[hidden hill]

I'm gonna be testing it out in a bit with a spectre though to see if its even worth that grind.

Need to see how actively it casts its set of abilities.

[still rock]

yeah and the area of the rally

could be really small

[sonic shuttle]

does spell effect duration on the tree affect the duration of contagion and essence drain?

[still rock]

i assume that would be affected by monster aoe node though

[still rock]

yes

[sonic shuttle]

thanks

[hidden hill]

Won't matter on that front tbh. I'll be aiming for one with the Increased Area modifier, which if I can find is a 100% More AoE effect. But that one's been elusive.

[still rock]

if you got that mod in conjunction with lightning storm would it make the storms bigger?

or does it only affect their base abilities

[grizzled ruin]

How does blood hunt works? Once the mob is bleed then use it?

[hidden hill]

No it should in theory make it bigger. But Lightning Storms a bit fickle of a gem.

[still rock]

i managed to get a lightning trail lightning storm quadrilla and called it there lol

farming for the perfect tame beast is the true endgame

[hidden hill]

Blood Hunt works when an ability that activates Blood Loss is active. Hitting it causes a blood explosion consumes the Blood Loss effect, and Consumes any active bleed on the target.

IE. Herald of Blood.

[magic spire]

2 rare beast companion or 1 rare beast and 1 rhoa mount? please help, cant decide between of 2

[hidden hill]

I haven't looked at the Rhoa Mount yet tbh, but I'd go the Rares.

The double Conjure Lightning storm I'm currently running is breaking the backs of most enemies atm.

[magic spire]

i tried rhoa mount it seems it does not click to me, since it peck so slow and no other attack like charging like Bramble Rhoa

but the good thing it has big hp

[magic spire]

did you tried to catch the chimeral bat in Trial of Chaos?

[hidden hill]

I grabbed a spectre version for research.

[magic spire]

how much spirit for specter of that?

[hidden hill]

It's on the lower end of the scale for stats, but would likely enable using additional minions.

As most of the 200+ spirits are prohibitive of that until you get giga spirit numbers

[marble jasper]

need more strength

tips

[green spruce]

Would anyone here happen to know if the damage you deal to a mob is affected by 120% increased damage on low life enemies, IF you one shot them from full hp to zero in one hit?

[magic spire]

which is better?

[hidden hill]

Functionally it should not. Since Low Life only triggers when that threshold is crossed, not past over.