2┃build-planning

[carmine flicker]

like it's only fire spell I actually liked

[sweet blaze]

What's the easiest starter build? I've been running https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/cold-snap-frostbolt-stormweaver-leveling-guide but continually get flattened, only level 24 and Act 2.

[carmine flicker]

I didn't ever tell that

[dawn spire]

any build can do the campaign without getting flattened. The issue was likely your gear, not the build. Check out https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1328202289755983932

[sweet blaze]

Thanks @dawn spire

[sly leaf]

Oh, so you meant this is the only exception to what you were saying about Fire spells in general

[pseudo patrol]

playing lioghtning arrow deadeye do i wanty more phys or ele dmg atm theye are kinda equal ik im being held back by something and idk exactly what it is

[carmine flicker]

rather opposite
it's only fire setup(except frost wall fireball..) that wasn't real bad

[sacred dock]

Anyone can help me understand this in PoB, currently have incinerate active, got 79% fire dmg on wep, 4+ fire skills, 23%/27% increased fire dmg on rings, so how does my cold have higher max hit than fire? Does the program not handle incinerate yet? also the gloves that give 100% spell dmg and -20 cast only give 200 dps increase, but from 18224 without them, to 16340 with them.

[carmine flicker]

but frost wall fireball isn't even fire build, so don't count

[dawn spire]

you feel like your dps is lacking? If so, can you screenshot your bow and share your gem setup?

because base lightning and phys damage are basically identical on a bow

for a lightning rod/arrow setup

[pseudo patrol]

ok 1 sec forgto howe to get my sc to work lmao

[sly leaf]

so I'm going with this for my self-casting with Doggo + Raging Spirits, was my thought. Am I making any glaring mistakes other than insisting on Fire spells?

[carmine flicker]

waaay to many minion nodes

and curse nodes

[sly leaf]

Flammability with those nodes seems like it will be gucchi

It devalued Breath of Fire

[dawn spire]

you really feel like you need to spend 5 points for 100% inc curse duration and 10% effect?

I'd put the curse nodes on a weapon swap if anything

[sly leaf]

Well I'm also planning on being Pyromantic Pact and Curse is going to be one of my most expensive casts

So I don't want to have to recast it often

[dawn spire]

that's fine, but a weapon swap gives you the best of both worlds

[sly leaf]

That is a great tip, I will do that 🙂

[carmine flicker]

also you don't recast curse often
cause you drop srs and reserve, you know, curse

[vital crow]

did i strike a good shield?

[carmine flicker]

now you don't need to cast it at all

[dawn spire]

#price-check📉

[vital crow]

might make a warrior at some point and might keep

[vital crow]

no dont wanna price check

if its not that good i might sell

[dawn spire]

fair enough. Good compared to what?

the res on it looks pretty swanky

but I wouldn't base a build around it, ngl

resists are pretty easy to handle

[carmine flicker]

btw
those 36% curse effect give you around 12% more damage
for 4 nodes
mediocre, if you ask me
can give you extended math if you want

[vital crow]

true true i guess

1 morior pretty much handles the res

[sly leaf]

They're right that I can use it with my weapon swap points though, so that solves that

I didn't have anything else in mind for weapon nodes, I actually wasn't planning on even using them because I didn't realise there was an application for them in my build since I'm single-element

[carmine flicker]

people this day.. don't appreciate the beauty of "close your eyes, tank the world, hold button to kill them all"
they want to play piano of buttons
bad times, truly, dark times come..

[sly leaf]

I do want piano buttons, I love piano buttons

Dark Pact Skellies was my favorite PoE 1 build

[dull oar]

was hoping to have someone take a look at my build can I post a pob code here?

[carmine flicker]

my fav was self cast forbidden rite PF
could tank ubers, afk everything and all things that could be automated were cwdt-automated
were great

[sly leaf]

So yeah, freed up 15 points all told, thanks for that tip

[carmine flicker]

"build is great if cat sleeping on spacebar can carry ubers with it"

[dull oar]

or should I go to build help not sure the dif

[sly leaf]

There are also people who enjoy PoE for the "I'm a merchant in my hideout all day" aspect, to each their own 🙂

[carmine flicker]

oh, those lvl 2 witches
good gameplay too

(witch is fastest class, afaik, to kill hillock to enter hideout, so lvl 2 witch is optimal trade character)

[dusky summit]

Has anyone tried evasion + energy shield on ranger? Or should I go evasion only?

[carmine flicker]

eva+ES is best defence combo this days

except pure ES ofc

you don't get hit, when you get you evade and when you don't evade ghost dance just recover ES like nothing happened

[ashen copper]

anyone know if PoB accurately calculates meta skills yet?

[dull oar]

pob says I'm doing 60k initial and 84k when stun shock and malice are going

[pseudo patrol]

@dawn spire ok figured it out lmfao but question is do i want more phys or ele as lightning arrow build im at 29k dps and ramps up to 60 with heralds and other buffs also if a bow wqith lvl to skill is better or additional arrow

[dusky summit]

I don't think ranger gets ghost dance does it?

[carmine flicker]

wdym?

you have your spirit gems
you can make any spirit gem you like from it

[dusky summit]

Yeah my bad forgot

[carmine flicker]

can't decide what direction to go with bonestorm
crit? archmage? both?

I mean, archmage sound like auto-pick when you have like 3k mana anyway

[faint hill]

anyone here free to have a call and check over my build, having a few issues with T13s and dont know how to fix it :/

[carmine flicker]

what the build?

[crude stratus]

hey guys, do all damage also self inflicted damage break energy shield recharge (or in my case life recharge due to Eternal Youth)? im curious if i can run Berserk Spirit passive with eternal youth, or do it permanently break my life recharge?

[faint hill]

its a gemling using crossbow and grenades atm

[carmine flicker]

what skills?
how much DPS do you have?

[pseudo patrol]

bow on right is mine bow on left is one im debating about using just dont know witch one stronger rlly

[carmine flicker]

wow, so many skills

[faint hill]

first time POE 🤷‍♂️

[carmine flicker]

you have literally no life and not capped res
yeah
struggle you will

I hope you didn't go crit at least?

also why only 75 spirit?

what quest did you forget to do

[next mesa]

Does anyone have a good chest recommendation that has good Mana regen? I'm lvl 41

[faint hill]

🤷‍♂️

[carmine flicker]

look at act bonuses guide and get all you missed first

you should have AT LEAST 100 spirit at that point

[faint hill]

i dont think so but i have 10% crit chance 0_o

[carmine flicker]

what ascendancy passives did you take?

[faint hill]

would it be easier to call ? is this build even salvagable ?

[carmine flicker]

every build is salvageable
respec is cheap

you are not ssf, right?

[faint hill]

its the items and armour that ill need to fix up right - SSF ?

sorry first time POE for more than 10 minutes lol 😅

[carmine flicker]

I -just- made a cheap, easy and.. not powerfull at all, but at least work for t15 gemling
so may be can give few pointers

[quaint helm]

What is currently best monk build ?

[carmine flicker]

and about call.. my english is so horrible you won't understand a word, I fear

[flat island]

anybody run an ice strike and or flicker invoker monk give me a hand with something rq?

[faint hill]

i dont mind brother, im english so maybe you'll catch a few words to +1 your vocab 😄

i'd trade my english for your POE knowledge about now 😛

[faint hill]

if it makes it easier i can screen share you can type ?

[quaint helm]

Whos have the best monk build atm, need to have some mobility

[carmine flicker]

my vocab is fine
my pronunciation is.. let's say it's as horrible as 90% mobafire builds
but sure, we can try

[faint hill]

respect ❤️

channel ?

[carmine flicker]

friend requested you

[elfin sequoia]

is anyone available to hop on a screenshare with me for like 10-15 minutes, need someone who has experience to advise on Herald of Thunder/Ice setup for my gas arrow pathfinder

[fast nest]

outside of blood mage, what other ways are there to get spell leech (mana or life)

[merry bone]

Covenant. Lifespring.

[lunar surge]

if i wanted to make a chaos spell poison build, would pathfinder, bloodmage chrono or storm be better

[tidal copper]

My conclusion is blood mage
How do you plan to poison?

[lunar surge]

most likely on hit

prob using plaguefinders

archmage setup

im really wanting to make chaos bolt work

[dawn spire]

Pathfinder is the only source of double max poison stacks. It's pretty hard to beat, imo

[dawn spire]

The wand skill?

[lunar surge]

yah

i seen a deadeye version of the build

but i have two deadeyes already

[elfin sequoia]

do you guys know if i can trigger Herald of Ice/Thunder with plaguefinger gauze wraps on gas arrow?

[dawn spire]

Can you ss plaguefinder?

[merry bone]

plaguefinger doesnt change the dmg type in anyway. So if you deal Cold/Lightning dmg that would still trigger your heralds

Plaguefinger only applies the dmg you do (regardless of element) to poison magnitude

[elfin sequoia]

i trigger it but only sometimes

im trying to figure out what im doing wrong

i have lots of ele damage

[merry bone]

thats a lack of doing enough dmg to trigger it / not shocking, freezing enough

[thorny token]

nothing, herald of thunder just doesnt trigger from dot kill

it requires kill with attack damage

which poison isnt

[elfin sequoia]

ah there we go

[thorny token]

and hoi also requires kill with actual hit

[merry bone]

that question now makes way more sense. Yea poison kills wont trigger heralds - regardless of plaguefingers or not

[elfin sequoia]

deathbeam so what if i gas arrow

and then dtonate with flame wall

detonate*

or liek solar orb

do you think that would do it?

[thorny token]

do what? trigger herald? if you kill hit hit sure

but thats kinda useless

[elfin sequoia]

you think the proliferation is not that effective

i was thinking to like poison and then like proliferate tons of damage

[thorny token]

either grab corpsewade or bursting plague

[elfin sequoia]

but maybe im thinking wrong

[thorny token]

bursting plague can spread itself as well

[elfin sequoia]

sorry what are those

btw tyvm ❤️

[thorny token]

corpsewade is boots

and bursting plague is support gem

[elfin sequoia]

ok just go herald of plague

and get rid of HoI/HoT

and do bursting plague

[thorny token]

if you are chayula then def go bursting plague yes on your gas arrow links

[elfin sequoia]

im pathfinder

[thorny token]

if you are pathfinder you dont need herald of plague

it isnt going to do much

on PF i would just grab corpsewade, it clears breaches by itself, nothing else comes close

downside is it has shit movespeed and its boot slot :d

but otherwise rly good

[elfin sequoia]

i think i kinda want my insane boots 😦

im running ghost dance, wind dancer, and grim feast -- and i have room for2 more spirit gems

any recommendations?

since i am getting rid of HoI/HoT

[merry bone]

Blink - then corpsewade 🙂

[elfin sequoia]

blink is a great idea

probably reduce my deaths by like 90%

im in a decent spot gear-wise im at like 81% with Acrobatics and 6k ES

and CI

[tidal copper]

You can freeze with poison with contagion+freeze I believe your poison starts freezing?

[thorny token]

if you are CI then grab lingering illusion, charge infusion and resonance

free 18% more eva and es

[thorny token]

no, only chaos hits

with chaotic freeze

[scarlet shadow]

Does anyone know how to set up Detonate Dead in Path of Building? I assembled my whole build, but the skill says 2 DPS...can't figure out if I can make the calculation target my skeletal brutes. 🤔

[thorny token]

its not supported yet i think, you can just add flat phys as custom mod, just check the brute HP and then just add global phys based on 20% of taht

[scarlet shadow]

Awesome, thanks deathbeam!

[thorny token]

adds 1000 to 1000 physical damage something like this for wording

just replace the number with actual one

[elfin sequoia]

deathbeam how would i get power charges for resonance

[thorny token]

lingering illusion + minion pact

[elfin sequoia]

dude

you are on a another level

thats genius

[pearl sluice]

Deathbeam how do I avoid the irs

[thorny token]

oh actually they fixed it

damn

[elfin sequoia]

rip

maybe i do srs

with fire ability

i have room for sure

[thorny token]

well alternative is armour break for generating endus, i did that before on my gas + snipe

[elfin sequoia]

ok

[thorny token]

(just for frenzies with resonance)

[elfin sequoia]

i can try

it procs enough?

then i wouldnt even need resonance

[thorny token]

well you basically need those 2

i just had it on gas

or you can just use lingering illusion regardless

[elfin sequoia]

ok cool

im gonna test

[thorny token]

because i think even baseline enemies should just kill it

it has 20% of your hp or some shit so shoul just die in 1 hit

[elfin sequoia]

awesome ❤️

[pearl sluice]

Is Armour break warrior good? I'm having good dps, but with stacking armor, as I get into the higher tiers I'm still just getting ones hot occasionally

[thorny token]

also dont forget to profusion the lingering illusion and qual it

[thorny token]

warrior is relatively squishy, one option is to use atziri disdain and grim feast + some jewels for es on top

also capped block ideally

should be somewhat survivable

[pearl sluice]

Aztiti disdain? :0

Aztiri*

[thorny token]

yea

[onyx cargo]

Very good helm

[vital quail]

Do gems that extend ignite's duration cause more damage? I'm trying to interpret when I increase the duration of Herald of Ash...

Does it just do the same damage over a longer period of time?

[lyric wren]

stampede herald of ice titan -> would you rather quality attributes or attacks?

[foggy bloom]

are annoints permanent?

[lyric wren]

from what I understand, you can change the annoint if its not corrupted

[gaunt verge]

is str/dex useful for sorceress if u dont care about the extra gems?

[thorny token]

it does same dps over longer period of time

which means it deals more total damage

[vital quail]

thanks

[merry bone]

str gives life if thats of value to you. Dex is accuracy, so doesnt matter

[humble wave]

47% evasion + 4.1K ES vs 29% Evasion 4.9K ES ( resists are about the same )

[merry bone]

thats like a 60% increase in overall evasion for a 20% gain in ES. Id personally go the evasion - reducing how often you get hit to 1/2 as opposed to 1/3 sounds like a win to me all around

[humble wave]

yeah i think the same

i went heavy on ES because i was getting one shot but I'm doing better now

[cyan plover]

when will GGG add that we can transfer our builds to the building app?

[merry bone]

dont think thats even close to on their priority list right now

[cyan plover]

dang it

[merry bone]

3 acts, 6 classes, and 24 ascendancies. In addition to skill balance, end game changes. 50 more bosses. Oh yeah, and a poe1 playerbase waiting for a new league.

API for characters just doesn't register honestly

[cyan plover]

50 more bosses?

gawd dayum

[olive compass]

Is it safe to assume that Empowered skill also affects their aftershock?

[sly shoal]

Im finding it difficult to justify the cost on my Infernalist witch to switch off the uniques. Should I just be using them until I can afford to drop 20+ div on upgrades?

[spare quartz]

Any rangers here? Any reason i can't set up eye of winter on a weapon swap rather than using the passives on main?

[inland crag]

Hey everyone, I have a question. I just chanced a dream fragments but I don't know if its worth to replace one of my rings with it. Im a lvl 96 sorc, with spark currently focusing on max mana. Replacing any of my rings results on a -20k DPS... so, I don't know if its actually an improvement for my build in the long run.

Sorry for my bad english and thanks in advance <3

[merry bone]

there is literally no way to answer this question based on the information you provided

[dull eagle]

does lightning conduit include the increased damage from shock? or does it remove the shock b4 it deals damage since it "consumes it" to deal more damage?

[sly shoal]

Well what I mean is that the starting gear for the Infernalist is pretty standard, Enfolding Dawn Pilgrim Vestments, Oaksworn Sigil Crest Shield, and Bones of Ullr Lattice Sandals. I am finding it difficult to determine when I should be looking to move off these items. Like the boots for instance, I understand that movement speed is a crucial stat, but is it so crucial that I take a 28% damage hit for it. When I check the top builds on maxroll.gg none of them have these unqiues in their final endgame build so their is obviously a point where it is justifiable.

[merry bone]

Wait are you saying you think that to upgrade leveling gear - you need 20 div?

Like most of that gear should be getting removed during the campaign

[sly shoal]

No... what I am saying is that for gear that seems to justify the loss of the uniques, it would be around 20 div

[merry bone]

It would be nowhere near 20 div. On 20 div you are farming end game +4 bosses

what level are you currently?

[sly shoal]

80

[carmine flicker]

oh, DB
do you know much about bonestorm?
playing(in my mind, not in POE) with it all day and can't decide - crit, archmage or poison may be? or smth else?

[thorny token]

i mean its kinda terrible for poison

i think ppl play it on bloodmage but that sounds pretty bad, i would just do archmage

[merry bone]

If you arent running into issues with dmg or survivability - i guess keep trucking. But playing with no movespeed in maps - no way, its just unncessary pain. Im shocked you arent dying more

[carmine flicker]

infernalist can crit better than blood mage anyway IMO

[thorny token]

probably, also infernalist has actual good defenses

[carmine flicker]

ehh, I still want to go 3 beidat
for low life stuff

[somber pendant]

Kill or be killed

[carmine flicker]

I played my first build in POE1 with no move speed or move skill, lol
just immortall RF templar, slooowly killing things by existing

[thorny token]

i mean just dont get regen

[carmine flicker]

that's the issue
I want to go ZO+ROTF 🙂

7% base regen from ROTF is so sexy with all and every regen booster from tree

[somber pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/maes-b-lost-in-a-field-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-gif-14829328

Your defenses when everything’s dead

[carmine flicker]

yeah, that's why you need defences
"don't flinch. Dodging is a waste of good hitting time"

the less you need to care about everything around the better you kill!

[thorny token]

i mean its just 7% life regen zo do not converts like in poe1

[carmine flicker]

ZO don't convert?

[thorny token]

the excess just recovers es instead of life

but it do not converts to 7% es regen like it would in poe1

[carmine flicker]

I mean, would all my "increased life regen" work?

[thorny token]

sure

[carmine flicker]

then it's.. ok, I guess

[thorny token]

it would just be on like 1.3k base life

[somber pendant]

Fair enough

[carmine flicker]

with 3k life 10%(7+1 vitality+1.5 low life node + w/e random shit) and like 150% increased life regen is.. 750 regen

is that good? idk

[thorny token]

for shield slot and all that investment? sounds meh

also are you gonna actually have 3k life

you can almost just click eternal youth instead and get similar results

[somber pendant]

Anyone know of anyone that’s done an es leech eternal youth monk?

[carmine flicker]

flask-to-es you mean?

[thorny token]

yea

[carmine flicker]

well
it's like.. 900 or so total regen(atziri helmet + mom means 20% damage goes to mana and mana is infinite cause recoup, so w/e)

but then again I just can file that as "20% less damage taken"

[thorny token]

yea that damage will go to mana either way anyway regardless if you are doing eternal youth or zealoths oath so doesnt change much :d

[carmine flicker]

then again I want ROTF anyway for +6 fire res..

for 90 fire res for cloak

(and altered flesh..)

[thorny token]

cant you just get 90% fire res easily either way from jewels and shit

[carmine flicker]

idk, tbh

[thorny token]

also regular shields still have this lookslike too

[carmine flicker]

how much does that cost?

[thorny token]

no clue i just looked at the mods in pob :d

but doubt its expensive noone uses these

[carmine flicker]

(and how will I grab eternal youth? it's FAR from where I want to patch)

[thorny token]

some with es too

[carmine flicker]

I have 2500 now with could-be-better gear and 6/8 ascendancy
(then I guess last 3% max life won't change much..)

[carmine flicker]

it's.. exactly like ROTF, but 91 life inctead of that regen

not a huge upgrade I'd say

[thorny token]

i mean rotf is just max fire res

i think its pretty noticeable difference

[carmine flicker]

78 other res vs 76?

[thorny token]

yea

[carmine flicker]

7% less damage taken

[thorny token]

also with the last ascendancy you get the dog no instead of some useless mana

[carmine flicker]

mana isn't useless, it's there for archmage!

also everlasting gaze
may be

grab EB and get all ES from atziri helmet and everlasting gaze
level of triple-dipping is absurd

I get ES from life, then convert than ES to mana and then get ES from mana
that even sound stupid

[viral crag]

I'm going to check, but I thought I already checked and would like your opinion.

If I'm missing two skill points, what do you think are two that commonly get missed?

[carmine flicker]

also do you really want to bother with dropping yourself to low life every damn time you go somewhere to activate PA and cast speed on low life node?

[carmine flicker]

check act bonuses guide?

[thorny token]

i mean thats just lifetap on some random thing so do not rly sounds like a problem

[carmine flicker]

oh, forgot it exist

[thorny token]

also atziri helmet do not gets converted to mana and back

[carmine flicker]

yeah, that's easier than way I did think about

[thorny token]

as all conversions happen at once thats not possible

[carmine flicker]

that I know

I mean beidat give ES that's converted to mana

[viral crag]

Are you kidding me? Thought I went back here for the spirit 🤦
Commonly missed spirit is also commonly missed skill points lol

@carmine flicker Just curious, sounds like you're on a similar defensive* build, how are you feeling about midnight braid?

[carmine flicker]

smth I really want to use but can't cause I need to get res and life damn somewhere

[viral crag]

Like I'm starting to really want to get a second slot on the belt, but dont' have that option as long as I'm stuck with braid. Starting to weigh my options.

[carmine flicker]

oh. and that, ye

so it was hard, but I did throw braid out

[viral crag]

Like I appreciate the idea of 50% recoup, but I'm about ready to give a regular belt a go.

Died a lot more to freeze than I have low mana so far lol

Glad to see somebody else talking about Atziri though, I'm a huge fan of it for this setup.

[thorny token]

why dont you just annoint icebreaker

basically freeze immune

if you are dying to freeze

[viral crag]

It's not a ton of ES on its own, but mechanically I like it.

[viral crag]

imo quite a few more valuable passives than something that can be accomplished with a thawing charm.

Main consideration if I'm being honest.

Like I probably wouldn't even annoint it on my build. I actually pass within 4 points of it.

[thorny token]

i mean there are other ways to get annoints too

[viral crag]

Might actually consider grabbing that for 4 points though 🤔

Recently dropped adverse growth so I do have the points to spare.

[carmine flicker]

what ways btw?

[thorny token]

megalo has 2 annoints now

from nothing also hits it

[carmine flicker]

oh, new megalo
yeah, forgot it exist

damn
lol-facetanking in POE2 is hard now
or I'm doing smth wrong

[viral crag]

Both can be true 😅

[carmine flicker]

that's too grim to consider

[viral crag]

But seriously, lot of poe* is about avoidable mechanics and they definitely punish you for trying to eat some of this stuff

[carmine flicker]

that's why I hate poe2

[thorny token]

facetanking in poe2 is stupid easy, but facetanking continuosly is annoying because of recovery :d

[carmine flicker]

I want new POE1 league where I could lol-ignore 99.99% of the content

last 0.01% being uber's "no recovery" bullshit

[thorny token]

woul be nice if we got good poe1 league this tim

but dont have high hopes

[carmine flicker]

don't have high hopes we will get it "at all" you mean?

[viral crag]

Like I honestly enjoyed my first go at Zarokh (besides going in with unupgraded gear and realizing quickly I did not have the damage for it)
Just because of the honor thing, really felt like I had to do mechanics and they were pretty interesting for that fight.

[thorny token]

i mean we will defnitely get some

but its pretty likely it will be low effort garbage

[carmine flicker]

"definitely" is too optimistic if you ask me

[hidden crown]

MELEE CHAOS

Is there any Acolyte of Chayula chaos build?
I already used herald of ice and thunder, I want something different
But fire damage is weak, so I am planning to create a chaos damage char

But the only chaos damage build are hexblast with wands, I wonder if any chaos damage melee build with **Acolyte of Chayula **exists... Ty!

[viral crag]

Even if it doesn't exist, you can certainly make it

[hidden crown]

I know, but I like some inspiration xD

[carmine flicker]

I mean, defiance of destiny exist..
idk if it's good enough tho

[hidden crown]

Every Acolyte of Chayula melee build uses lightning / frost damage

[viral crag]

Be inspired by "Hand of Chayula" then 🙂

[carmine flicker]

I really hope it work
but yeah, damage isn't there sadly

[hidden crown]

🤔

[viral crag]

Don't follow a build guide, be your own! It's a lot of fun.

[thorny token]

probably not

[carmine flicker]

also surrender exist
and/or svalin
you can go to 90% effective block chance

idk if defiance work with blocked hits

[viral crag]

I mean, so far I'm doing playthroughs of

• Chronomancer Chaos Dot
• Pathfinder pure poison (no pcon so far)
• Pure fire stormweaver
  Like I agree most builds won't be competitive/optimal farming, but I've yet to find one that doesn't work once you've put it to the grindstone so far.

[carmine flicker]

warbringer arc
didn't work xD

[hidden crown]

I'll accept the challenge, do u know good build maker site? To help me creating it

[viral crag]

Path of Building just released for pob 2, and it's great!
Link is in #other-news 👍

[carmine flicker]

tbh it wasn't build
I just was so mad about mace skill being shit that I switched to arc on warbringer
it worked better, lol

to lvl up I mean

from act 1 to act 3

[thorny token]

im doing poison plasma blast deadeye, works fine. but i miss build variety and build flexibility from poe1

but im not playing fucking necro settlers dogshit

lul

[bronze coral]

how much of a dmg difference is a 1-12 howa vs a 1-10 howa?

[viral crag]

If you would prefer a website though, personally I like poe2db in general.
Their passive planner is https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/, but they have a lot of info.

[carmine flicker]

we have POB now

[viral crag]

@carmine flicker

[carmine flicker]

so why use anything but?

[carmine flicker]

sorry, missed that

[viral crag]

They asked for a website, so just in case I included a website recommendation 🙂

[carmine flicker]

many people I know
for reason I totally don't know
(as obscure as what Exarch and Maven do in their free time)
enjoy POE2 way more than POE1

well
they do play POE2
and they left POE1 after first 15 minutes

[viral crag]

To be fair, I think that comes with time thanks to variety of characters, options, and passives to encourage weaker combinations though.

[thorny token]

poe2 campaign and new player experience is def way better so its understandable

everything after is just so much worse atm tho

needs a lot more development

[viral crag]

Like we seem to have datamined masteries, we know more characters are incoming, we know more skills/supports will be added 🙂

[carmine flicker]

POE2 campaign is looong and boring slog with big locations and no move skill

[viral crag]

Honestly feel completely the opposite.

poe2 is the first time where I missed playing the campaign once I got to mapping, and was hopeful I would get to fight more bosses like that afterwards.

[thorny token]

yea but also has interesting bosses so its perfect for new players

a3 is pretty bad tho that one should be improved

[carmine flicker]

for damn sure
tons of axe/flail/links passives kinda tell as that smth is incoming
that, or GGG are drunk out of their mind to add passives for non-existing shit

[thorny token]

if i wasnt playing with my brother he would've been completely lost there because that act is just a mess

[carmine flicker]

I hate act2 the most
the whole "go to town, go to map, click on map" routine is..

[thorny token]

yea the a2 travel system could def be quite a bit better :d

funniest one is going to the gate for first time

just to go back

lul

[carmine flicker]

I want to slash every second of my existence, not.. doing anything that isn't kiing at max speed

[viral crag]

Okay, out of all of act 2 that one bugs even me lol

Like I appreciated the agency to pick where the caravan goes, the change of scenery for town depending on where you picked, but that one section bugged me 😒

I get that it's realistic and all but... I don't know, user experience?

[dawn kettle]

For a monk stat stacker with temp flurry about how much strength dex int is floor to make it worth it ..?? I am currently ice monk and can do almost all content in game I have 220+ dex 240+int only like 50 strength .. I have hand of wisdom gloves also have pillar of god if needed …

[carmine flicker]

I don't care where caravan goes
just give me endless rooms of enemies to slash from 1 to 70
then maps with enemies to slash

[thorny token]

the caravan could at least just drop you outside of caravan when travelling

it wouldnt even be that big change

[carmine flicker]

I can't care less about their storyline or w/e

[thorny token]

wouldnt chang the flow either

just make it less annoying ;d

[carmine flicker]

what bugs ME the most is ultimatum long travels between rooms

[dawn kettle]

I tested changing from ice strike to temp flurry just now without changing any passive and it’s decent I was able to clear fully loaded 15 with zero troubles seems like bit less damage single target but same or more area clear using my same stave and everything just changed only some gems around

[carmine flicker]

DAMN TRIALMASTER, IMPLEMENT TELEPORTS!

I travel rooms longer than fight in them

[thorny token]

i left through the portal when i wanted to do trialmaster to grab something and then i had to go all the way back throuhg everything took me like 10 minutes, was fun :d

did not knew it would place me at start

[hidden crown]

Ty!!!

[carmine flicker]

well
POE1 took tons of your time
but did REALLY respect your time at the same, well, time
no second was wasted

POE2 doesn't respect player time at all

[wild whale]

bro

don't get me started

I was genuinely tweaking today

because of these trials

what the fuck is the trial master room bro

you're telling me I need to do 3 trial of chaos 10 round trials?

😭😭😭😭😭it's not even worth it atp

[thorny token]

can at least buy the frags if you just want the ascendancy

and then only do 1 10 round

[carmine flicker]

selling those mask fragments for div and then buying 4-th ascendancy with said div is BETTER than doing trialmaster

that's shit

[wild whale]

I see "OOO WOW ASCENSION POINTS AVAILABLE FROM THIS TRIAL" I start kicking my legs in excitement and boot up the trial I do the trial of chaos relatively easily because infernalist comet spam then I get to the end and see the door

I'm like oh okay wow maybe I need to do something outside of the trial to open this door

[thorny token]

well i wanted to do the fight

[carmine flicker]

fight is easy as hell tho

[wild whale]

I look up a video only to see a 20 minutes video of a guy yapping about pointless shit and then he gets to the actual point of the video right at the end

[thorny token]

but idk whats it even supposed to be i was just running around with 2k es and the trialmaster does nothing

[carmine flicker]

like.. 20 times easier than last sanctum boss

[viral crag]

Makes you wonder who would bother doing Sekhema for ascension 4 if all they had to do was 1 chaos lol

[wild whale]

3 chaos bro 3

3 10 rooms of chaos

[carmine flicker]

those who like sanctum?

(so noone)

[wild whale]

to access the boss room

[wild whale]

impossible

that's the most agrevious thing in this entire game

I despise the sanctum

[carmine flicker]

I mean POE2 sanctum is better than POE1 sanctum in many ways

and it's still horrible shit, ye

[viral crag]

4 10 room of sekhema to access the boss room though.

[wild whale]

it's pretty impossible for me to get fourth ascendencey without sitting there for 5 hours

[thorny token]

poe2 sanctum is also quite a bit longer :d

[viral crag]

Like I'm quite happy to take my 3 chaos lol

[wild whale]

absolutely not

[thorny token]

would rather have the poe1 one with terrible balance lul

[carmine flicker]

POE2 everything is 3 times longer

so ye

[wild whale]

I struggle because my stupid ass decided to go for the most micro managing build humanly possible

even having a slight stat boost fucks up my build

it's 4am and the humidity is at 98%

[carmine flicker]

hey, I almost died once!
I had to open the door for pizza delivery
and forgot POE2 can be paused
so I was 2 min afk

[wild whale]

this fan is blowing hot air onto me I'm on the verge of crashing out 😭😭😭😭

[carmine flicker]

when I returned I had to click flask

[viral crag]

That's what I'm saying though, wouldn't call it balanced if sekhema took 4 floors and a boss while chaos just took 1 run of 10 and a boss.

[wild whale]

even if it was 5 chaos run I'd still do chaos

[carmine flicker]

soul cores sell

[wild whale]

sekhemas is the most hourrendous system I've ever encountered apart from the invasion leveling on dark souls

[wild whale]

yeah its some good profits

[carmine flicker]

and it's easy as hell
my 60k DPS gemling can almost AFK all of that chaos

[thorny token]

but yea i hope we get some good poe1 league because i dont see poe2 being in a state where it can be replacement for me for the first game in less than a year at least, especially if they are gonna do league-based balancing

[hidden crown]

Why this is good

[viral crag]

Immune to Chaos Damage
Any other questions?

[wild whale]

it's amazing

[hidden crown]

But what deals chaos damage?

[carmine flicker]

POE2 doesn't have move skills so it's worse by deafult
and I'm not "fastest player around"

[hybrid ocean]

We do have lightning warp

[wild whale]

well if you go into chaos trial you can always choose chaos damage multipliers on enemies for example

[viral crag]

Many monsters, and poisons, and generally chaos is your lowest resist without significant currency investment or luck.

[carmine flicker]

.....

[thorny token]

i dont rly mind not having move skills if everyone is at same/similar speed and there is no empty space between packs

but currently poe2 fails at both those aspects

and horribly so

[carmine flicker]

I'd rather play d2 as druid summoner at that point
(well.. why "rather". I am)

[hidden crown]

But less than 50% of the game damage is chaos damage
I'll lose like 1.4k life that could save me from the 50%> damage taken

[carmine flicker]

POE2 maps are big empty space of empty emptyness
with some mobs thrown around

[wild whale]

man I'm still sad I bought diablo 4 and wasted my money

played it like 4 times and was like meh

[merry bone]

it removes 75% resistance you need to find on gear that can be allocated to better stats such as damage or rarity

[carmine flicker]

(some mobs you won't even see if you have, like, storm mages or smth)

[viral crag]

Generally you tailor your build around this skill. You no longer need to invest in life or chaos resistance on your gear, and can invest those stats into other defenses or more offense.

[thorny token]

and dont forget about backtracking :d

[viral crag]

Not to mention if your build is heavily focused on ES, becoming immune to chaos damage greatly boosts your survivability against even incidental chaos damage.

[hidden crown]

Can I use Chaos Inoculation with this?

[viral crag]

You can.

[hidden crown]

Oh

The things are getting nice

[viral crag]

Your chaos resistance is zero, but you're immune to chaos damage so you don't care.

If you are expecting you are now immune to elemental damage though, that's not how that ring works.

It converts the elemental damage you deal to chaos, not the elemental damage you take

[thorny token]

im playing CI build with osin rn for example, but just to avoid the downside

(and cant even divine the ring to get the buffed version rip)

not like i planned moving away from CI anyway

[carmine flicker]

ghost-smth body worth it for CI btw?

or normal ES body better?

[viral crag]

I kind of want to play around with it, just to see if there are any interesting abilities I can sneak into my build.

[viral crag]

I tried it, wasn't a huge fan. Probably because I've got too many uniques on already.

So lot of stats are on the chest, including being part of my ES/Eva split.

Going ghostwrithe drops a huge chunk of my eva.

But yeah, I can imagine it's still worth for some builds.

[hybrid ocean]

What would you guys imagine is the best crossbow skill for a rampart raptor build?

[carmine flicker]

how does osin works with archmage?

[thorny token]

it doesnt

[carmine flicker]

does it convert added lightning?

[thorny token]

all conversions in same step still

[viral crag]

@carmine flicker Added damage technically happens after conversion, but yeah. Pretty much simultaneously.

afaik it's like right after you convert all your damage, you get your "gain as <x>" or "deal <x> extra damage as" type effects.

[hidden crown]

There is only one chaos attack on the game
The rest are Spells
Thats why there are no Melee Chaos builds.....

[thorny token]

i mean the added damage is still calculated on the pre-converted damage not post-converted so thats still in same step

the order doesnt rly matter

[carmine flicker]

also want to do smth with buffed (corrupted to 6% ofc)
but idk if it can be used for smth good

[viral crag]

To me it was more to highlight the fact that "You don't gain the damage and then it also gets converted, all your damage is converted and then you gain the damage"

Like computationally speaking they may be simultaneous and based upon pre-conversion values, I just think it explains what happens better.

[carmine flicker]

they really hate avatar of fire archmage idea, lol

[thorny token]

well they tried to "simplify" conversion but its not that great

[carmine flicker]

srs count as undead
so with like tons of cheap skellies(clerics?) and srs it can give at least some return
but archmage still sound better

[thorny token]

especially when their own system doesnt even work properly

for skill local added damage

[viral crag]

Wait, they count as undead?

[carmine flicker]

ye

I tested

[viral crag]

I love that there's no tag, afaik, for what constutes an undead minion

[carmine flicker]

now all you need is fire spell that isn't bad..

(and that doesn't need to scale duration into negative like embers.. cause SRS doesn't work good with negative duration)

[hidden crown]

This is trash?

[carmine flicker]

(well, it's still positive ofc
just kinda too short for them to work)

[thorny token]

flame wall + spark lul

[carmine flicker]

you propose me forbidden mastery of TWO buttons

I mean, I tried to get my dodge roll on middle mouse button
and use that blink reservation spell

200% copium

then I kinda come to terms with the fact that I have one button in POE2 opposed to two in POE1

[carmine flicker]

200%

[carmine flicker]

also why bother when spark archmage exist?

[tender badge]

is there a cap with armour? as in once you get to certain threshold theres diminshing returns ?

[carmine flicker]

and about flamewall
someone know DE of spells in POE2?

[hidden crown]

So the only working builds for quarterstaves are Lightning or Freeze damage?

[carmine flicker]

is it 100% for all spells or no? or how?

[carmine flicker]

grab original sin

go chaos

[carmine flicker]

yes, there is
0
everything past 0 is useless

[tender badge]

oh hahha

[hidden crown]

But the skills are still lightning // freeze right?

Converted to chaos

[tender badge]

is armour just not worth it atm

[carmine flicker]

well
you need armour=damage*10 to HALVE damage

so if you take 2k damage you need 20k armour to take 1k

[tender badge]

oh wow

[carmine flicker]

you need damage* 30 to take 25% of damage
so you need 60k armour to reduce 2k hit to 500k

[tender badge]

didnt realize

[carmine flicker]

meanwhile you can go mantle of flame + 90 res and just lol-ignore 50% phys damage
(AND get almost-fire-immunity in that process)

and 90 fire res is easy

[tender badge]

yeah was thinking converting phys to fire

[carmine flicker]

(or lol-ignore 70% phys damage on infernalist)

so infernalist can get 70% phys reduction(around 60 actually cause you still take SOME converted) for body slot

to have 70% phys reduction you need around 55k armour against 2k hit, like I said..

well

[tender badge]

yeah its a bit of a stretch for me lol

[carmine flicker]

oh, and mobs have overwhelm too

they can ignore like first 30% of your PDR

so you actually DO have 60k armour..
well, you still take half damage

cause those 75% is 45% now

[tender badge]

yeah rightio

[restive mortar]

i like this idea

[carmine flicker]

so
yeah
effective armour cap is 0, lol
everything past that isn't that good

[restive mortar]

do srs summon on triggered spells

[carmine flicker]

no

[restive mortar]

dang

[carmine flicker]

I'm mad incinerate doesn't summon SRS

[restive mortar]

but yeah i think the chaos convert ring

fire ball I guess is the spell

ice wall fireball could do

[carmine flicker]

forbidden mastery of two buttons again
but guess will work for.. everyone who isn't me

[restive mortar]

fire spells are so limited

[carmine flicker]

yeah
only semi-ok is flameblast

and it have it's own set of problems

(like stupid animation of you flying in some weird trance)

and lack of cast-when-channeling
why don't we have it as meta gem

we have cast-on-roll, damn it

POE2 was made by alpha legion or smth?

[viral crag]

In case this comes up for someone else, apparently there's a visual glitch that can show the Bog Witch as having passive points available when you already killed them 🤦

If you already have 100 spirit then you don't need to bother going back, and should be looking somewhere else for your missing passives.

[carmine flicker]

btw how good/bad cast on dodge really is?

[plain yacht]

in pob the 8% physical as chaos minion node is not showing any gain for snipers - is that obviously a bug or is there a reason snipers wouldnt gain a free 8% damage from that?

[carmine flicker]

also why temporalis suddenly cost 120 div?
was way less week ago

[plain yacht]

it could be the brutality support gem overwrites that

[atomic halo]

probably effects of dupe wearing off

[atomic halo]

it does

if you have brutality it will only deal phys damage period

no gain as extra is going to circumvent that

[plain yacht]

i removed that support and am still getting no benefit from it in pob

[carmine flicker]

does now-and-again work for blink btw?

[plain yacht]

nevermind, pob is being wonky

[viral crag]

As far as I know.

Don't use blink myself, but have heard it can reset from chronos that do use it that I trust.

Personally I like having no cd on roll as chrono though. One of the worst feelings is to have your freeze/rift interrupted by a stun, so being able to quickly create some space to hit your emergency button is very nice.

[carmine flicker]

blink is only remotely-move-skill in POE2

so yeah, want it for that reasone
but temporalis is 200 div, damn it

[viral crag]

I know, you're addicted to the blink 😅

[carmine flicker]

(to reduce cd to 0.5 or smth)

[viral crag]

Personally I'm thinking more about playstyle thoguh.

[carmine flicker]

I'm not addicted
I can stop any moment

[viral crag]

You just blinked again, @carmine flicker

We're concerned about you.

[carmine flicker]

well, it was of CD

[desert sparrow]

Anyone know with minion Sniper / Ignite combo is damage increased by fire/elemental or chaos or minion damage??

[carmine flicker]

ofc I did it

[plain yacht]

also why are so many people using gravebind gloves on minion builds

[carmine flicker]

everything minions-related in increased by minion

[desert sparrow]

even the gas cloud ignited with a fire spell?

[viral crag]

In all honesty though, I feel the pain of losing the mobility while campaigning/mapping but I think they kind of made that choice intentionally.

They leaned heavily into the idea of poe as a game focused around mechanics and avoidable damage, and having readily available blinks kind of invalidates a lot of the mechanics in this game lol

[rough monolith]

can you fire infuse flamability?

[viral crag]

You know what this game could really use as a neat compromise?

[carmine flicker]

I really don't want to play dark soul..

[viral crag]

Like a buff gem that grants high movespeed, lost temporarily when attacked.

They still get their mechanical game, and we aren't stuck crawling when we're looking for stuff to kill or backtracking.

[carmine flicker]

or move skills that are disabled when you enter boss arena

[viral crag]

This was my first idea tbh, but I didn't think it would be received well.

Like you would get players reliant on that skill, then feel like they're getting kneecapped when they have to fight the toughest things.

[carmine flicker]

entire POE2 isn't well received

[viral crag]

Big disagree there, but I get what you mean.

[hidden crown]

This is trash with original sin?

[rough monolith]

just add mov speed while in combat and not in combat

[viral crag]

The pacing is probably one of the biggest design complaints.

[carmine flicker]

POE2 doesn't respect your time

[viral crag]

I mean, most arpgs as a genre don't respect your time.

[carmine flicker]

I don't need move skill to dodge
I need it to run in ultimatum faster between rooms!

[merry bone]

yea you wont do any of those dmg types

[carmine flicker]

POE1 did

[viral crag]

People just say that to mean that "the slow part of the game I don't like is disrespecting my time"

[carmine flicker]

POE1 had almost no second wasted

POE1 had no slow time tho

it was fast from the moment you get frostblink(like.. first 5 minutes?)

[viral crag]

Random drops, random rolls on those drops, increasing the XP required to level, randomized crafting, redoing the entire campaign every time you start a new character.

Like I could make a list of ways poe didn't "respect my time" that we all accept because it's part of the game we love.

The difference is that this time, the time wasting is something that some people don't like.

[rough monolith]

after the 1st char you should be able to skip atleast cruel difficulty on another char

[carmine flicker]

yeah, yeah
it's part of the gameplay still
running between rooms in ultimatum it's some gameplay
it's simply.. empty wasted minutes

nothing happens
NOTHING
no risk, no reward, no gameplay
you just run long ass road between rooms

[hidden crown]

Why original sin is so expensive?
Which boss drops it?

[viral crag]

Or it's time to recover, to cooldown between what is (for some players) and set pacing hectic challenges.
Not every minute of the game needs to be an adrenaline fueled dopamine injection 😅

Like this is honestly a difference in taste that we won't be able to settle if we're being real about it.

[carmine flicker]

when I want to rest I press pause
you know, you CAN do it in POE2, right?

[viral crag]

Any minute you are not spending tearing through hordes of monsters or drops is time wasted in your eyes.

[viral crag]

It separates you from the game, this is a basic design principle. You can lower the feel of the game when the player would otherwise not consider to.

Like I said, this isn't something I feel like I will be able to discuss with you.
I don't think I need to be constantly burning through mobs every second to enjoy this game.

[carmine flicker]

let's be honest
I enjoy chatting about POE2 10 around 917% more than I enjoy playing it..

[viral crag]

It's a difference of opinion.

[merry bone]

world drop

[carmine flicker]

even d2, inspiration and all, was "burning through the mob" 99% of time

I wouln't flame there.. or be there at all.. if we had new POE1 league

yet..

we don't

[viral crag]

This is nostalgia blindness, I'm sorry.

I'm not here to bash d2, loved the game, but you had nothing compared to the pacing of modern arpgs playing d2.

[carmine flicker]

when I want, you know, story
or some lore
or dialogs or w/e I go play arcanum or planescape or any other actual RPG

[viral crag]

If I want to tear through hordes of monsters constantly without stopping with a very mobile and destructive character, I go play Doom or Ultrakill.

No reason to draw the comparison.

[carmine flicker]

doom is 1-st person

[viral crag]

Why does that matter though?

[mystic shard]

damn i want respeccing to be free lol

[carmine flicker]

let's be honest there is vampire survivor for horde shooter with isometric view

[viral crag]

I didn't realize it had to be top-down for you to get your adrenaline fix.

[mystic shard]

or like a certain amount of gold per asking god

not per thing

[carmine flicker]

it had to be top down for me to be playable

[viral crag]

Honestly, I'm surprised respec isn't just free during EA.

Let us experiment, let us test everything.

[mystic shard]

testing shit is agony

I know

[merry bone]

not good to get people used to free respecs and take it away at launch.

[carmine flicker]

it's like 3m times cheaper than it was tho

[viral crag]

Find more bugs or interactions.

[mystic shard]

Then just dont' take it away and have gold be for commerce like normal.

[carmine flicker]

with 5-6 links prices.. fat chance

[mystic shard]

be nice if I could buy some stuff from those shops

[carmine flicker]

experementing with new skills in POE1 was easier

[mystic shard]

not just endless horde it incase of respec

[viral crag]

lol

How many 6 links did your poe builds usually have on them?

[carmine flicker]

same as in POE2
one

[viral crag]

So the complaint is... ?

[carmine flicker]

complain is I can buy another 20/20 gem for 3c and test smth

cause I can swap gems easy in that 6l

[atomic halo]

its not the end of the world if you have a 5L for your testing skill

[carmine flicker]

I can't buy 20/20 6l in POE2 easy

[viral crag]

Like if your skill didn't work at 5, you probably weren't fixing it with the next support.

It just seems to me like all the difficult/slower things in poe2 are bad, and all the things that were brought over difficult/slow from poe are fine.

[carmine flicker]

even 20/20 5l cost like 15 ex
and it's.. not much
but not free either, far from it

[merry bone]

Isnt the 6L just always inspiration anyways cause mana costs 🙂

[carmine flicker]

nah, mana can be solved in so many ways..

[carmine flicker]

they aren't fine
but that doesn't mean that POE2 shouldn't be criticized

[viral crag]

I have to say though, for someone who seems to want to play as hard as you do...

Complaining about something costing 15Ex that you would not be doing daily as being too expensive shows me you're willing to bend over backwards to dislike this game.

[carmine flicker]

well
ofc I won't be doing it daily
it cost 15 ex and I don't want to farm in POE2
don't enjoy it enough

want to experiment
don't want to farm

[mystic shard]

what costs 15 ex?

[carmine flicker]

average cost of random 20/20 skill with 4 socket spaces

[mystic shard]

oh right

a skill gem

man I want 5 sockets

its annoying

in hc

way more expensiv

e

a greater jewelled orb is like 30 ex's

perfect is 3 divs

[plucky flare]

fellas I got a broke 2% AS 1-9 light dmg HoWa currently. my only one though so toughing it out. can I expect a juicy or subtle dmg increase if I buy a non-broke HoWa at this point? (on macos so PoB bit tedious to get working)

[carmine flicker]

"last socket won't fix anything", right?

[merry bone]

its a math problem - multiply your dex and int by the difference - thats the impact

[plucky flare]

valid

[steady birch]

they said tempest flurry is stronger than ice strike, but why is when i put ice strike on, its dps numbers are higher than my tempest?

[hybrid ocean]

Mostly synergy with charged staff, I'd imagine

Also the way the combo works

[elfin sequoia]

what does levels to gas arrow do?

anyone happen to know?

im not noticing changes to the tooltip

[proud sorrel]

Is there any way to get flame wall to ignite gas clouds from skele archer poison arrows?

[viral crag]

So tooltips with secondary abilities are weird.

[merry bone]

sure it only requires a monster be ignited and walk into the cloud

[viral crag]

You won't see the level up effect when using gemcutting like you do with other skills 😦

Your best options are to either look at your skill and compare it to the one you're about to cut, or look at an external resource to see what scales with level

In this case you scale mana cost, attack damage for the hit, requirements, attack damage scaling for the poison cloud, and for the explosion.

[hasty vale]

Anyone got recommendations on spells that’d work well with Crit and Ignite magnitude scaling? I was thinking fireball?

[viral sage]

does warrior 'mace strike' with regular mace has AoE? does taking passive that increase AoE affect on regular attacks?

[hasty vale]

I think most builds use the mace that has the implicit ‘strike skills have a 3m aoe splash’

[hasty vale]

In order to have an AoE effect

[viral sage]

im not using Cultist Greathammer (which has splash dmg) but when i hit enemies with regular atk, some of them also took dmg, so was wondering if the arc swing has small aoe, and it could be increase by taking passive with increase aoe

[odd charm]

How do i put “hard to kill” on gear?

[raw venture]

hi guys. so im kinda in a dilemma now. 500h in so far, I've tried storm spark, invoker flicker/ice strike/tempest flurry/ multiple versions with and without charges, deadeye lightning arrow pure light and light/cold. hate minions. have 12divs and 2k exs, howa and ingenuity 79%. hundred divs invested in deadeye (last char). i've killed almost all bosses (missing arbitrer and expedition). what build can you guys recommend? something out of the those metas

[gusty island]

Do you guys think it would be worth it to sacrafice 40% enegry shield and evasion (2 runes) for 24 fire res when my fire res is 37

[viral crag]

Almost definitely, because those runes just boost the es/eva of that item.

24 fire res will be much more impactful.

[gusty island]

oh wow really

i thought it buffed the entirety of my shit

[somber pendant]

Archmage Ember Fusillade Gemling Legionnaire

[viral crag]

Chaos Dot Hexblast Poison Chronomancer (no blasphemy)

[raw venture]

this looks interesting

[raw venture]

thanks m8

[olive thorn]

Is there any way to have a preset skillgem setup to switch between for mapping & pinnacle bosses? Seems really inconvenient to have to drag each skillgem and their respective support gems individually every time

[distant tendon]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/04688768-4537-4838-954f-63ba43ada596/builds/b8b2671a-27ed-486b-8af9-3a3e0f676004?weaponSet=set1&widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiIwNDkzZWViNS02NWY3LTRmYWQtODAxZS1hMWZjZWE5NWY3ODIifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0

am i dumb or where am i suppoed to get resistances from

[drifting wren]

Does anyone know how Coming Calamity work on the passive tree?

[static plinth]

Seconding EDC if you want dogass that fools you into thinking your build is good

[spice abyss]

Question regarding Atziris Disdain: 20-25% of Damage bypasses energy shield? Does this mean damage dissapears or is taken off of my life?

[thorny token]

goes through es to your life

so doesnt disappear for sure :d

[austere lion]

Are there any builds based around lugging around a big 2 hand weapon? Or is it always better to use a shield or dual wield?

[thorny token]

i mean you can wear 2h weapon and shield, and also 2 2h weapons so ppl just do one of those

no reason to not click giants blood really

[austere lion]

I see, just aesthetically I like the idea of lugging around one big weapon, but not if it's pointless.

[hybrid ocean]

If only Giant's blood worked with Dance With Death

[uneven delta]

Anyone know if chaos inoculation will work on a gemling totem user that has abilities cost life?

I’m on hc and don’t wanna experiment if it will kill me

[sudden crown]

anyone here mana stacker and could show how much mana is possible to stack ?
like 5k 10k ? more ?

[uneven delta]

I’ve seen builds with 19k

[sudden crown]

bruh

thats huge

I want to make ignite build and saw burning inscription

[uneven delta]

They ain’t cheap tho lol

[sudden crown]

and thats 3800 base dmg

[sudden crown]

ye I know like every stacker

wanted to make some walking simulator build with those boots

but idk if its even possible to scale the dmg

like max hp I can get is like 6-7k and thats not even 1k base dmg

but still gonna try to scale it

[hasty vale]

What’s the best spell / way of applying shock for a build that isn’t building lightning damage or shock chance and doesn’t have enough spirit for archmage?

[keen tartan]

Does anyone know the math for Blackbraid Fur Plate? What is armor-elemental dmg ratio?

[sudden crown]

same as armour

just to ele dmg not phys

so its shitt and useless

on big hits

aka bosses and pinnacles

but its good on mapping

[keen tartan]

Wait 1000armor = +1000 ele dmg to attacks ?

[sudden crown]

just google the armour formula

and change phys dmg to ele dm

g

thats it

[keen tartan]

Sry I am noob here, dont know math and relations existing on this game and still dont get it. Could you explain it more clearly please?

Making it simple, does this armour add elemental dmg to my hits basing on armour I have?

E.g each 10 ele dmg to attack5 per 100 armour

[hasty vale]

No it applies to ‘Elemental Damage Taken’ not literally your elemental damage you deal

And what @sudden crown was trying to explain is that the armour formula sucks atm so you’re better off finding other forms of elemental resistance (or just a big EHP pool)

[sudden crown]

true

armour suckks

bcs its the same as in poe 1 with numbers of poe 2

so when in poe 1 you could have 150k armour easly now its impossible so you just die xd

[thorny token]

stuff like armour applies to ele is also way worse than in poe1 as in poe1 it at least applied after resistances

[sudden crown]

wait its so shitt in poe 2 that it applies before res ?

bruh

[thorny token]

yes :d

[sudden crown]

GGG you could have just released poe 2 beta 1 year later with everything done and everyone would be happy

now they justshitt on ggg xd

still better than d4 tho

[hasty vale]

Alright guys I’ve planned out another build for low budget early game. I’m pretty proud of some of the tech in here but am I cooking or is this one to go in the bin? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/pgkqo0y9

The build and concept: Crit Poison Bonestorm Chayula Monk. It has AoE freeze built in with CoC contagion + chaotic freeze and then Chayula ascendancy + passives to increase our chaos damage with Bonestorm to proc it. Contagion is also spreading our poisons and we have multiple forms of debuffs for bossing and rares.

[waxen dew]

hi, would like to ask if i put archmage on, does that mean the non-channeling skill will deal 6% elemental dmg or is archmage dealing it itself?

so if i am going to put elemental focus on that other non-channeling skill, will it be boosting it 25%???

[unique fog]

whos familiar with detonate dead builds?

[steep mantle]

hello! some mercanary here who have a kickass build and lead me a little into it? im level 69 now

[sudden crown]

is there a way to scale ignite dmg without skill ?
I mean birth of fury boots they give around 700 base fire dmg

its just joke I think

plus they dont give you energy for cast on ignite

[gray hull]

if going gemmling stat stacking what you do wanna prioritize after good pillar and howa?

[hollow bronze]

I can't find a better body armor for my ES monk..anybody got any item names I could look at?

Or tips how to use the trade site

[radiant sable]

Hey any high level sorc willing to look at my build and help me improve? Im running a fireball/icewall build and on tier 10 maps lvl80

[lethal robin]

hey guys someone know why raging spirit does not happen when the fire spell activate on cast on freeze

[olive thorn]

Expert Scalpers Jacket if you're looking for hybrid evasion/es & expert serpentscale coat if you're going full evasion

[tidal copper]

@hollow bronze
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/E0DVDvYT5
Something like this should have work there is a weight search tutorial in helpful guides
Oh I forgot to add what type of armour you want

[olive thorn]

and altar robe if for some reason you want a full ES body armor

[hollow bronze]

I hGs that invoker ES sporty increase thing so I am looking for something to help that and also give me more ES also

Anyway I can link my build like in POE1?

[hollow bronze]

When I'm inside I'll look thank you

[hollow bronze]

Yeah I have that ATM but it's not enough 100Es,50% es from life a f 35chao res

[olive thorn]

You'd have to upload to maxroll or screenshot individual stuff

For most monk builds you will want at least hybrid so that you're getting enough evasion rating to up your spirit

So a jacket would be ideal if you still want the ES

referring to these nodes

[fossil moss]

what should i focus on gems on gemling stat stacking build

[olive thorn]

Also %increase ES is not worth as much if you don't have enough flat ES for the % to scale

Lunar amulet is also an option for increasing ES

[hollow bronze]

this is what i got so far

[olive thorn]

What level are you out of curiosity?

[spiral smelt]

Hello,

I'm discovering path of building and trying to look at my rapid shot mercenary build
How can I take into account rapid shot heat mechanics (+ % extra fire damage per heat) and fresh clip ? Is it even possible ?

By default it does 36k dps with ~~56% lightning damage, when fully heated up and fresh clipped it goes to like 250k
However the proportion of lightning damage goes DOWN a LOT, so I want to take this into account in PoB

[topaz brook]

anybody on hc willing to help new char

[hollow bronze]

55 atm

[dense warren]

Hey guys. Anyone here using Ice strike but also Flicker strike for maps?
I wonder what would be best gem setup for both so I have most DMG on these both skills. 😁 5th slot on both 👀

[olive thorn]

I'll dm you, might have a jacket thats better for u

[hollow bronze]

thanks dude

[fossil moss]

what should i focus on gems on gemling stat stacking build

[tidal copper]

Pillar?

[sudden crown]

how much sockets I get from "cast on block" with svalin shield ? do I just normally jeweler it or is it fixed amount ?

[signal copper]

does anyone know if concentrated effect works on the explosion part of the skeletal frost mages basic attack?

[paper saffron]

If I am playing lighting and using this to freeze enemy, should I go for freeze buildup or shock chance on my passive tree?

[signal copper]

im guessing shock chance, as the way it reads its transforms your shock chance into freeze build up

[midnight geode]

guys I'm trying a crossbow/mace setup on gemling (shockburst rounds for bossing, molten blast for mapping). Before I was using stormcaller arrow for shocking bosses, but now I can't. What would be an easy way to shock them fast with 1-2 hits? Plasma blast is an option but it takes a while to charge

[midnight geode]

I think both apply

[restive mortar]

i believe skills provided by items are affected by level, maybe the level of them item or the skill? I'm unsure, but you can't jeweller it

[restive mortar]

freeze buildup

[sudden crown]

hmm

well I will jsut need to buy and see it if thats the case

[keen sparrow]

hey guys on an howa attrib stacking monk tempest flurry, what is the stat priority?

int > dex > str?

[umbral vine]

you understand what he asked? can you translate?

[restive mortar]

I would also recommend using fire infusion on your herald of ice,it will allow it to shock. assuming you're using a lightning attack to freeze initially

[paper saffron]

thank you 😄

[restive mortar]

the unique shield that gives cast on block,how do you know how many sockets it has

[paper saffron]

Im a stormweaver, don't have herald skills >.<

[restive mortar]

that's fair

some added fire damage could help then but don't sweat it too hard

[umbral vine]

you can add 2 sockets and 3rd by vaaling it but its a gamble

it can add 3rd or remove all sockets or add something else

[restive mortar]

weird

so it's 2 by default?

[umbral vine]

its 0 by default? 2 added by artificer

[pearl sluice]

Can I charge Tempest Bell while using other weapons/skills?

[half cairn]

If I use ressonance+electrocution combo as a Monk, should I just get rid of increased shock chance nodes?

[restive mortar]

no no not rune sockets, the support sockets for skill it gives you

it gives you a skill cast on block. which you can support with gems, similar to your basic attack

how do you know how many it is?

[umbral vine]

oh support gem socket aka links
it depends from char level, you get all 5 on 90lvl

[restive mortar]

okay cool ty

@sudden crown

[sudden crown]

?

oh

so it scales with my level same as pconc

good to know thank for pinging me

[lethal robin]

hey sorry for qeustioning the same problem. But is it intended for raging spirit to not trigger when the fire spells are trigger spells?

[potent swift]

Got bored with casters, thinking of trying out Warrior a bit - is it really that bad? Can you go full totem or something? I just hate slow skill speed, that is all, if I can play it comfortably I would

[lethal robin]

all fire speels are basically on cast on freeze

[restive mortar]

yes raging spirits don't cast on triggered spells

it should be in the text

[umbral vine]

you activated them by right click?

[lethal robin]

doesn't specify in tekst

[restive mortar]

i have been told they don't cast on triggered spell

[lethal robin]

so my qeustion was is it intended or is it like reading mtg and spell cast is not the same as "trigger cast"

[sudden crown]

polish power?

[umbral vine]

cringe

[lethal robin]

?

[sudden crown]

nvm

[crisp star]

yes. it initially worked as you were thinking until they nerfed that cause it was too broken

[sudden crown]

they "fixed" energy gain loops

[spiral smelt]

Hello,
In path of building how can I use buffs ?

[sudden crown]

or smth like that bcs it crashed the servers

[sudden crown]

config

depends too on what buff it is

[spiral smelt]

I don't see how to apply fresh clip and heat fire from rapid shot

I guess I could use a custom modifier ? But then I don't know what to put for fresh clip since it depends on attak sped

Heat fire is easy, 24x7% extra fire, though it wouldn't take into consideration the ramping up time but eh

[sudden crown]

some modifiers are not yet implemented but based on how fresh clip works
in custom modifier add "x% more damage" and it should work properly or in case of rapid shot look how the mod "extra fire damage gained" is phrashed and copy it but with your number

type exact words like this mod

just change number

[spiral smelt]

Yeah but I wanted to compare ramping up times, how attack speed improves total dps over x seconds etc

But it will already be a good starting point thanks

[sudden crown]

you can just add x% extra fire damage for each stage

so if you want to have dmg at 10 stages

at 10x extra fire damage

something like that

[spiral smelt]

yeah

[sudden crown]

bcs attack speed is the same

or if you have other mods

idk

[spiral smelt]

Attack speed improve ramping up time
But for bosses I can just ramp it up before they arrive tbh so I can just look at it fully ramped up

[sudden crown]

how much heat you gain is fixed I think

or something changed

[spiral smelt]

Hmm didn't know that
Though it also improves fresh clip

However I don't think it matters that much for rapid shot since the clip is so big

[sudden crown]

if you have enough attack speed its 100% uptime on fresh clip

[spiral smelt]

I think it works by threshold
If I empty the mag in 6s, 3s, 2s, 1.5s ... I can have 1 full stack, 2 full stack, 3 full stack etc

[sudden crown]

but it only works on rapid fire dmg so

[spiral smelt]

Fresh clip stacks if you empty multiple times in less than 6 seconds

[sudden crown]

I mean you gain 4 heat per 1 s its not changable

[sudden crown]

hmm

[spiral smelt]

Ok for heat

[sudden crown]

for fresh clip i really dont know

didnt play it so mucch

[spiral smelt]

But fresh clips
1 empty mag in 6s => 85% damage
2 empty mag in 6s => 2x85% (which I am at currently)
3 empty mag => 3x...

[sudden crown]

oh

it stacks ?

thats op

add temporalis to it and you have basically no reload time

bcs for some reason temporalis affects reload time

[spiral smelt]

Attack speeds also affects reload time lmao

But with 85 bolts reload time isn't that big of a deal tbh

It's currently 0.26s and I empty the mag in 2.80s, so i'm super close to the 3s treshold of "2 empty mags in 6s"

[sudden crown]

true

just saying if you want to invest

[spiral smelt]

yeah I absolutely don't have this kind of money lmao, i have like 2-3 divs

I'm around 500k dps too i think

[sudden crown]

good start

ruetoss making rapidfire pathfinder you can check it out

[spiral smelt]

I checked it out and he is doing it wrong tbh

[sudden crown]

?

[spiral smelt]

And posted a comment on his video
He is taking lightning nodes when even with howa we have 85% fire damage

[sudden crown]

hmm

[spiral smelt]

182% extra fire damage from Heat applies to lightning damage so increasing intelligence with howa in fact increases more fire damage from howa since for each 100 lightning damage will have 182 fire damage (don't know if exact math is true but the idea is here)

[solemn marlin]

anyone know why this node cannot be allocated on pob with controlled metamorphosis?

[sudden crown]

extra fire damage is calculated for base damage

so idk if it adds up

but well if you found it do

go for it I dont play his build

[nova plank]

what can i run instead of morior invictus on a stat stacker gemling ?

[solemn marlin]

triple res gigachad chest piece

[calm roost]

Im playing HC and was wondering if I should consider the 2 charm slot belt? Is it worth it over a 1 slot with flat resistances for example?

[spiral smelt]

It does scale from flat lightning damage given by howa
I just tested with and without (without fresh clip), with howa I go up to 4100 max fire fully heated per shot, without howa 2800 max fire

It's written "gain 8% of damage as extra ..." and not "gain 8% of phys damage as ..."

[nova plank]

ok sir and a ingenuity sub ?

[solemn marlin]

suffixes would be res, strength, dex

[nova plank]

for the belt ?

[solemn marlin]

ya but u lose out on damage as belt is a defensive slot other than using ingenuity

[solemn marlin]

not sure if u can get dex on a belt but str for sure , check this cheap one i got

[languid epoch]

guys can this thing bypass "lead me through grace" from the monk? (cannot gain spirit from equipment)

[winter vortex]

What does historic timeless jewel do? The description doesnt tell me much

[spiral smelt]

Oh well rapid shot starts bugging out after 30 attack per second so i guess i won't be stacking more attack speed lmao

[tidal copper]

Does detonating your minions count?

Sure you make them have a ton of life and use that as your DMG

https://youtu.be/0vqTlmgSCzw?si=kyGJ0JBthwDYkx-A

Yes become a filthy DD player

[spice abyss]

Question regarding Atziris Disdain: 20-25% of Damage bypasses energy shield? Does this mean damage dissapears or is taken off of my life?

[restive mortar]

is it equipment? yes. therefor no it does not

[potent hearth]

Does elemental expression not scale with weapon damage?

[restive mortar]

goes to life

[spiral smelt]

Does extra projectiles from scattershot on skills like rapid shots can touch the same ennemy thus boosting dps ?
Path of building is only removing dps with it

[restive mortar]

extra proj on rapid fire sucks

it just makes it like "3 round burst" better to just have attack speed

it doesnt fire 3 lines just one

[spiral smelt]

Sadly the game is buggued after 30 attack per second so I'm looking at it
20% less damage, 20% less attack speed, 3 more projectiles it should be 64x3=192 => 92% damage buff on single target (without taking into account fresh clips which I can't proc more)

But I guess it doesn't work ? I was always using grenades where it works because it's AoE I guess

[restive mortar]

just rapid shot in particular(and maybe other crossbow attacks) are weird with extra projectiles

and yeah aoe works

[spiral smelt]

Yeah ok
Rapid shot is weird anyway ... after 30 attack per seconds it starts to bug like the crossbow is "stuterring" while shooting ...

[elfin pilot]

Would increased damage with hits against burning enemies act as a more damage multiplier if I have no other source of damage like that?

[solemn marlin]

is charged infusion worth it? for mapping?

[fiery scaffold]

im so confused, im currently using both HOMA and this passive and have exactly 305 dexterity, and since 305 isnt divisible by 15 and 300 is, i went to my passive tree and gave those 5 extra dex points to intelligence for more lightning damage in my gloves

however when change a skill point from +5 dex to +5 int i lose 6 dex points

and i dont know why

[solemn marlin]

u got % increased dex somewhere

[fiery scaffold]

not in my gear tho

[fiery scaffold]

wheres that

[fiery scaffold]

oh im a dumbass

thx