2┃build-planning

[merry bone]

i gotta ask - where did you get 200 div? you are asking such a base level question - Elon is that you?

[bold oxide]

theyre ok. no rarity or crit or attack speed or anything that would really put them over the edge

[spare quartz]

Chaos orb

[bold oxide]

builds that want int and mana generally dont care for the accuracy so thats a dead stat there

[sour basin]

cant be they use the term "suffix" not "things"

[lapis slate]

I just don't wanna mess it up... I farmed for a week +150 Chaos runs and got The adorned with 97% roll which i sold for 190 div

[spare quartz]

Nice

[merry bone]

Alright cool - so big hit - and you basically regearing from scratch.

[lapis slate]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/qkBG92LUg

I was doing this filter and they were +10div each and i bought those gloves for 4div

[merry bone]

Are you using Ingenuity? If so, Rare rings can give a lot of resistance - so those gloves being stacked with res could be wasteful

[lapis slate]

i don't know if i got scammed tho haha, it has no quality/socket

[merry bone]

you can just add quality and a socket though

[lapis slate]

yes i know that just saying that could scale up

I'm not using ingenuity, should i?

[kind wing]

Hey, is there a way in Path of Building 2 to import your character into it other than the import character function (that is currently unavailable)?

[merry bone]

if you can afford 2 very good rings - then ingenuity is sort of insane

[potent quartz]

went to bed but, if you click that it won't add it to the calculation anyways cause "you dont have anything that supports it"

[lapis slate]

should i buy dream? It's so expensive tho and i don't know if its worth it at this point

[merry bone]

hard to know without knowing where else that could go into your character to add value

[sage gyro]

does this make my shield take less damage?

[merry bone]

Do you have any Armour?

[sage gyro]

yes

[merry bone]

So your armour is worth 1.2 at defending against physical hits as long as you are not on Low Energy Shield.

[sage gyro]

so armour reduces dmg to shield, this just increases that?

[merry bone]

Armour decreases physical damage you take from hits. This node effectively makes it so whatever your armour is you defend as having (your armour) * 1.2

[sage gyro]

ok so it's just physical hits to shield, resistances would cover the respective dmg's to shield/hp

[merry bone]

Its just physical damage you would take - where that dmg gets taken is based on other parts of your build. All that node does is basically increase your current armour for the purposes of calculating dmg mitigation

[sage gyro]

ok, makes sense. ty

[lapis slate]

I see a lot of mods can't roll on chest, which one are those? Mana and rarity can't right?

[merry bone]

Not going Temporalis?

[lapis slate]

so I should just be looking for int, both ES and triple res if i can afford it?

[ornate eagle]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Modifiers

[lapis slate]

It's 100+ div

[merry bone]

https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe2

[lapis slate]

ty

[olive compass]

Im seeing some ice strike builds and ppl seems to use weapons with physical damage only. Why is it bad to use cold dmg on my warstaff instead?

[merry bone]

because you can get more phys dmg

They are also most likely running double herald set ups - which allows all that phys to convert to the appropriate dmg type and then be converted as needed to get them to chain

[olive compass]

So if I have 2 weapons with similar rolls, the physical one will give me higher stats? When is it worth using elemental dmg on melee weapons?

[merry bone]

Physical dmg can naturally get higher on Quarterstaves than elemental

You want the highest dmg weapon you can get

[lapis slate]

If i want to invest in a piece, it should be temporalis right

[merry bone]

Its a build defining unique - so if you want to run a temporalis blink set up - its necessary

[olive compass]

Then whata the point of #added elemental dmg on melee weapons? Is it for skills that doesnt convert and deal only pure elemental dmg?

[tulip fog]

does anyone know how stun threshold works in poe2? what is "enough" stun threshold?

[lapis slate]

how much roll in the cd is needed?

[merry bone]

not sure what you mean - whats the point? The point is the devs put it in the game

You could use a weapon that has a Fire damage roll on it - and now your Ice Strike is also igniting. So if you want to do something that is benefited by triggering an ignite - then getting flat fire can be beneficial. But in general - you want the highest dmg weapon you can get

Current highest physical dmg staff

[olive compass]

I mean, when its worth it to use weapons with elemental dmg. But i think you already awnsered with the ailments stuffs

[merry bone]

Current highest elemental dmg staff

[olive compass]

Holy shit wtf mine has 400

[waxen jewel]

Could anyone with an Infernalist be so kind and test whether the self damage with Infernal Flame is blockable while wearing this shield?

[tidal copper]

That's a lot of room to improve

[merry bone]

sorry dont know all the math there

[lapis slate]

can you still modify cores on corrupted?

[merry bone]

yes

what i wouldnt give for a 400 dps staff right now /cries in SSF.

[lapis slate]

sorry for bothering you, I'm going to buy an ingenuity, what is the recommended roll on it?

I don't wanna spend a ton so I have some spare to get temporalis soon and don't know if 5% is worth 10div

[merry bone]

highest you can get - a low rolled one wont be very good unless your rings are insane

[ornate eagle]

As high as you can afford

[merry bone]

you should be buying rings before your ingenuity

[lapis slate]

i found a 72/80 at 18div. 78/80 are 30+div

[lapis slate]

will do thanks

[merry bone]

72 should be good given you have other upgrades to make - that 6% wont make or break your gear

[lapis slate]

also found some of them have fire res on them

[ornate eagle]

That’s from corruption. People try to get the Vaal that increase the roll value by 20% to get a 96% belt

[lapis slate]

I see, the bonus applies for an elemental res on rings too right?

[merry bone]

the % increase applies to everything on the ring

[lapis slate]

gotta spend a bit on them then lol

[lapis slate]

i meant the implicit

[merry bone]

So you know how this convo started? Talking about rarity - Thats a 70% increase to the rarity on the rings. Or the mana, or the Cast speed.

SO yea - rings are where its at

[lapis slate]

tysm now i see where things get exciting

[uncut ibex]

resolute technique on crossbows - is it better to just bite the bullet and get accuracy?

[merry bone]

given you will need dex for the crossbow itself and crossbow skills - you should probably have accuracy

[thorny token]

why are you pathing to RT on crossbos

is the better question

[uncut ibex]

I was toying with the idea of going past it on a weapon swap for the totem nodes. I've done some pinnacle farming and want to make a goofy witchhunter. I guess maybe a better question would be - do crossbows have any crit potential?

[merry bone]

if you spec/gear for crit sure

[uncut ibex]

fair enough

[merry bone]

a number of the xbow builds right now are doing lightning setups - and using

pretty nice with HOWA Xbow

[uncut ibex]

hmmmm

interesting

[merry bone]

if you opt for crit -Xbow base crit is 5% - so just like bow builds, you'll need to get a juicy crit roll on the weapon itself, something like 4%+

[uncut ibex]

yeah I had hear dsome people saying that it made more sense to just go for the highest hit damage possible on them and not worry about crit, but I figured I'd check here

[merry bone]

thats what id suggest personally as well - but its not like you cant go crit

[uncut ibex]

no it's just if you're insentivised not to then is there much point messing around with accuracy at all, but seems like the consensus is - mess around with accuracy lol

[merry bone]

you should sort of just have enough accuracy from needing dex for skills - doubt you'll need to do too much

[uncut ibex]

that's fair. I have played poe 1 for like 3k hours and still forget that dex gives accuracy

ah well.

thanks for the help!

[real harness]

For those of the unga-bunga persuasion I'm happy to say that the alternative approach of building literally zero crit or accuracy and then taking that passive that means you can't be evaded but can't crit feels absolutely amazing

[uncut ibex]

oh go on

[tough crow]

for Vine arrow im assuming the poison applied to each plant has a limit of whatever your normal stack limit is so 10 max? if thats wrong i would greatly appreciate any knowledge on the cap.

[flat root]

is gemblin considered considerably better than invoker for clear speed and mobility?

[ornate eagle]

Depends on the budget

[flat root]

low-medium which one is better to start with?
(in my case I started blood mage, cant change ascendancy which I realized way later and most builds for it didnt feel good)

[ornate eagle]

Probably invoker. Gemling needs a few uniques that are not very cheap to feel great. Invoker doesn’t need any unique to start.

[tough crow]

another Vine arrow question can multiple vine arrows plants attach a vine to same target?

[tawny timber]

can somebody explain

what the red line means and the green line

[tough crow]

isnt that just other weapon set

[lapis slate]

for any reason I upgraded my gear and now I have 0 energy shield, is this because of any setting?

[tawny timber]

no i dont thinks so

its only crossbow

[floral helm]

Since I changed specs, I smacked three of my poison based gems together and I'm actually extremely happy about this roll.

[tough crow]

this is what the weapon set point alocations look like so

[tawny timber]

like im watchin it from a site

[lapis slate]

please help me fix this 😢

[languid niche]

is it worth respecing into flicker strike/stat stacking from ice strike build in endgame

[olive wasp]

hey guys quick question: what is the desired engame build for infernalist: arsonists or snipers? im at maps lv 5+ rn and ive tested both and for now they both perform relatively similar. I think arsonists are slightly better since they scale better with fire damage.

going forward what would you recommend me to go for? appreciate help ☺️

[gray ferry]

Can you change socketed runes on corrupted items?

[languid niche]

yes

[hybrid ocean]

Real quick, is Quill Rain's less attack damage a global thing, or just local to the weapon?

[lapis slate]

Do you know why I have now 0 ES? Is it possible to be a skill point or something

[glad aurora]

Is +% to magnitude multiplicative or additive. Like is there a base magnitude

It doesn’t seem to affect sheet dps

[median kraken]

Eldritch battery?

[lapis slate]

Yes, it was. However it was strange, I now have 4.6k ES and 4.6 mana and then if i activate it only get 6k mana

thanks

[median kraken]

You probably have increased ES mods. Those apply after conversion, so they will increase your ES without EB but not the mana you get with it

[spare root]

anyone got a good atlas passive tree to follow?

[grand gorge]

any1 got a level 60 and beyond skill tree i can follow, warrior warbringer

[restive plinth]

Hey question - do gems like Innervate trigger if the attack that triggers shock is also the one that kills the enemy?

[merry bone]

There are tons ways to play a Warbringer - here is a leveling guide using boneshatter.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/rl6q90h6

[merry bone]

no reason it wouldnt

[narrow rampart]

guys, what happens when you have something like "damage taken recouped as life" and you're playing with CI ?

[merry bone]

you dont have life - so you dont recoup

[restive plinth]

I'm just not particularly familiar with how the mechanics usually consider it

[narrow rampart]

so it's useless

obviously

[merry bone]

That skill gem has nothing to do with whether an attack shocks or not - that skill gem triggers when you kill a shocked enemy with that skill. So as long as the enemy was shocked when they died - you get it

[restive plinth]

yeah

It does appear to work, I just didn't know if like, an enemy dying at the same time it was shocked counts as 'killing a shocked enemy' or 'killing an enemy and shocking their corpse'

Man this monk build is going sideways, I was planning to chaos it up but the lightning spells are just too good

[graceful stag]

is there anyways to get 100% fire convert

avatar of fire is 75%

dont see any other reliable way to get the last 25%

[sullen coyote]

how can i get the dark effigy attk the target without the contagious?

[merry bone]

the target has to have a chaos damage over time effect on it.

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[static plinth]

Essence Drain, Vine Arrow, Profane Ritual, Decaying Hex

[upper trench]

does someone know if there is a sharing place for builds for the Path of Building tool?

[static plinth]

But you should use as many as you can

[sullen coyote]

question is few build i am following, none of them have contagious (blood mage builds) i am very curious how can they achieve that without contagious

[merry bone]

its integrated to maxrolls poe2 planner for sharing

[graceful stag]

im not sure pob2 is applying crit multi from infernalist

nor is it applying low life properly

[spare root]

is 93 rarity enough?

[merry bone]

can you get more without sacrificing damage/clearspeed/survivability? If so, then you should get more. If you can't - then its enough

[solar spindle]

does anyone know if conc effect increases flicker strike damage? flicker has the aoe tag but afaik the attacks themselves aren't aoe so shouldn't be increased by area damage

[snow arch]

Am I self scamming on a poison gemling without Snakebites?

every item that's not defensive makes me sad

[heavy zenith]

Could anyone recommend endgame tempest flurry with 2 heralds build? (Not stat stacking monk)

[merry bone]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/tempest-flurry-invoker#passives-header

[waxen jewel]

Please correct me where I'm wrong.
How do the "+X% more maximum [type] damage" modifiers work for attacks?
They apply after summing weapon local damage with global Added damage, but before conversion right?
So the conclusion from this is that modifiers to different max damage types is always anti-synergistic like for example: Heft "+30% more max Physical damage" and the notable +15% Max Ligthning Damage

[pliant sleet]

I'm constantly dying on endgame maps in like 3-4 hits.. ANy chance any1 can advise what I Need?

im at 75% all res (except chaos)

1385 life, and 484 shield

[merry bone]

Your understanding is correct - not sure if your conclusion is - as that would vary by skill being utilized and other set ups.

[waxen jewel]

So "More max [type] damage" favors builds stacking one damage type even if it all get's converted to one element in the end

[merry bone]

Total evasion? What ascendancy?

[pliant sleet]

sorry im a monk invoker and im 59% evasion and 0% armor lol

[merry bone]

acrobatics?

[pliant sleet]

ehm whats that mean?

backwash?

[merry bone]

Did you take the node - Acrobatics

Also - how in gods name are you wearing a 79 Ingenuity, but then have trash ass boots like that

[pliant sleet]

I didn't - should I take it?

and someone give me it lol

[merry bone]

59% is very low if you arent acrobatics - thats why you are dying. 2/5 hits are just getting through, and you have no HP

[pliant sleet]

the build i was following doesn't say to take it

but also, not sure what item i should buy, with what filters

i guess my helmet/boots/gloves suck

[steep chasm]

is this good?

[merry bone]

Im not telling you take it. But if you had it and were 59% that would be at least understandable. 59% is pretty bad Evasion

As an invoke you also get spirit from evasion on chest and you have a low leveling chest. Time for upgrades across the board

[pliant sleet]

Should I try buy new boots and a helmet?

[tidal copper]

I feel staggering palm is doing waaaaaaaaaaay too much DMG
Tooltip say 1K but its almost insta killing T14 enemies? somebody knows whats up?

[pliant sleet]

and chest then I guess

[merry bone]

Looks like way too much accuracy rating as well - like every piece has it.

[pliant sleet]

what filters should i be looking for?

[vale pewter]

What’s like the meta team comp? I know sorc is crazy and witch has buffs but idk what else

[pliant sleet]

I have some exalteds i can trade

[odd charm]

Do charms stack

Specifically res charms?

[merry bone]

Chest you want BIG Evasion and resistances. Can skip life on chest if you get big enough evasion - its worth it with the way you scale. Rings with Ingenuity should be Life/Resistance/Flat Dmg to attacks/Rarity

Depending on how you are specced - you may want to run an energy shield helmet - there is a node that gives you Evasion based on ES from helm. If you took it - full ES helm

[pliant sleet]

any idea what that node is called?

an thanks I'll search for all these stuff on market soon

[pliant sleet]

nah i didnt get that

[waxen jewel]

I mean, from purely damage perspective, it's better to have 100% of base damage physical, because now your heft is fully effective, instead of having 50% physical and 50% cold because now Heft only applies to half of your base damage.
Of course there's other reasons to have multiple damage damage types like ailments and the fact that you can't roll +Added damage of same type multiple times on a single item, but this inherent anti-synergy still remains a factor to consider

[pliant sleet]

how much evasion rating is "a lot"?

[merry bone]

You mean for the body armour you want to buy, or in general?

[pliant sleet]

Something like this?

yeah body armor

[waxen jewel]

400k

[merry bone]

yep 1800+ is pretty good for 10 ex

Top EV chest on the market

[waxen jewel]

Is it vaaled with additional evasion?

[pliant sleet]

ok i can afford htis

doesn't say corrupted, so i assume not?

[waxen jewel]

The absolute max is with +25% increased vaal modifier. But a socket gives +20% too

[olive compass]

Anyone knows how armour explosion dmg scales? Unless im missing something, the tooltip doesnt tell me nothing about its dmg

[merry bone]

1800+ with some res. (limited to 20ex and under)

There is a 20ex one that also has 128 life on it in there.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/2WYPdKjsk

[waxen jewel]

this gives 3061 eva as theoretical max

For a rare

[pliant sleet]

where did u see the 128 life?

[merry bone]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/al5m4Mjue

[pliant sleet]

dam too much dex

[waxen jewel]

I'm curious where does this armour explosion dmg come from?

[pliant sleet]

im only at 117

[olive compass]

From the support gem called Armour Explosion

[pliant sleet]

this is 20ex

[merry bone]

Go to the explosion tab

[olive compass]

In my mind it converts the armour explosion dmg to fire, but it says nothing about the actual dmg. Or is it 100% of the hit that broke the armour?

[worldly stone]

what does neversink loot filter semi strict hide

[merry bone]

Its 100% of your Attack Damage. If any of your Attack Damage is phys, that is converted (100%) to fire.

Has nothing to do with the actual hit that cuased the armour break

[pliant sleet]

ok got it for 15ex

now i have 80% evasion.

shall i go for more?

[zealous gyro]

for life based attribute stacker, second venom draught is best on 10% chaos resistance or +5 all attributes?

[merry bone]

more is good -but go give that a whirl and see how it feels

[pliant sleet]

ok 🙂

tyvm i will give it a go

[waxen jewel]

I'm confused about what is the question? It says right in the tooltip that it does 100% damage of the Armour Breaking hit converted to fire

[olive compass]

Oh god. Now i see thanks. Was kind dumb my question

[pliant sleet]

i ahve 139% cold res and 97% fire

so i can change a ring i think

[merry bone]

you will want to change other things for sure. You want way better boots. 30% movement speed for sure.

[pliant sleet]

any other desirceable rolls?

desireable*

[delicate canyon]

whats better for invoker monk cast on crit or cast on shock

[merry bone]

Move Speed / Rarity / Life / Resistances / Flat Mana.

[pliant sleet]

and i want energy shield, or "armor" on it?

[merry bone]

Are you running Grim Feast? If so - then Hybrid EV/ES isnt bad. You dont want armour at all. Invoker gets a node that applies our Evasion rating to armour

[waxen jewel]

It's a bit weird support because it creates it's own attack too. But it doesn't increase damage at all so kinda lame

[pliant sleet]

I am not running grim fesast

but i possibly can?

i have some spare spirit.

have 139 spirit free

[merry bone]

should probably consider it - running hybrid ev/es as invoker is very easy to do - and GF adds alot of effective HP

[pliant sleet]

i can get a low lvl spirit gem an try that out

[tepid gate]

Hey guys i have question. Ghost dance and chaos inoculation. Does that work together.. meaning if i get my ES down and i get damage to this 1 life i have will the Ghost dance kick in ?

[merry bone]

Yes Ghost Dance works with CI, as long as you have evasion rating

[heady palm]

I would guess that it's based off the physical damage of the hit that dealt it

[tepid gate]

thanks

[bleak vale]

Blood Magic (Skill Mana Costs Converted to Life Costs) + Zealot's Oath (Excess Life Recovery from Regeneration is applied to Energy Shield)

Would the ES never regenerate while you were using skills?

[static plinth]

It might if your cast speed is low enough

[merry bone]

Regen has nothing to do with you taking dmg - its always running.

So once you hit 100% life - the regen would kick in to ES

[stone nova]

Hands of wisdom and action still the best gloves for monk? (without excessive stacking)

[hot dew]

Hey all do Gemling Mercs need ES or should i stick with armor/EV?

[lavish haven]

is there a timeless for minions?

[bleak vale]

So even with "Recover 2% of Life and Mana when you use a Warcry" it sounds like while <100% HP there would be no ES regen then...

[merry bone]

Yes - zealots only applies the excess

[bleak vale]

Thanks. Had hoped it would take into account that the Recovery would be adequate and treat the Regeneration as constantly excess.

[normal sluice]

I know this isn't the PoB2 discord, but once I have everything in PoB2 should my pob2 numbers and in game numbers/stats match? Is it that fleshed out yet?

[smoky salmon]

im trying to farm for snakebites in SSF for poison chalupa - any tips on getting them?

Been farming low lvl zones for the base and chancing but its pretty low drop rate
Tried gamba at lower lvls
Tried rarity at lower zones - this seemed to have a negative effect as most items dropping werent white

ideas?

[merry bone]

lots of stuff still doenst work and you need to set up your configuration

[merry bone]

thats all you can do

Well - i guess in addition to just stack rarity on gear and waystones and towers - and go blast.

[normal sluice]

@merry bone Ok thanks.

[stiff hinge]

Has anyone here tried a phys xbow build? Like using fragmentation shot, armor piercing rounds, etc?
It's the only thing I haven't tried in the xbow tree

[pure spoke]

might be a stupid question but is the best way to get good weapons in act 1 just luck rolling for stats that pair with my build on white items?

[solar spindle]

would it be better to pick up ghost dance or wind dancer with these stats? I can only pick one

[light dew]

how well is charged staff scaling into late game considering you use passive points, 2 skill slots that you could use for cast on (or other utility) and you cap at 3 stacks?

[trim nest]

why cant i use this item? some sort of interaction? (giants blood not allowing equip)

[merry bone]

are you using grim feast already?

[solar spindle]

yes

i ended up with ghost dance, don't have the dex for wind dancer

[merry bone]

Are you using Giants Blood? it doesnt update the tooltip of the weapon - so you have to manually calculate teh Str requirements

[normal sluice]

Does PoB2 account for # of projectiles? I'm new to build creation, but I feel like a similar stat bow, but one has +1 projectiles, should be a considerable dps boost?

[merry bone]

the calculation is typically based on 1 projectile \

[normal sluice]

Interesting.

For a lightning arrow build wouldn't more projectiles result in a decent dps boost?

[merry bone]

yes +projectiles/arrows is good for Lightning arrow

[normal sluice]

thanks

Is additional spell levels as powerful in 2 as it was 1?

[merry bone]

yep

[trim nest]

yep sure am, thanks!

[scarlet gorge]

can someone tell me what stats to prio for howas?

im looking for one on the market and they all pre much look the same

[merry bone]

thats because 2 out of the 4 rolls are static for uncorrupted ones. So by default only the 2 stats change - so obviously higher stats.

If you are going to look for a corrupted one - you want something that increased the Attack speed to 4, or the damage range to 1-12

basically you need to identify what your budget is - and then buy the best version within your budget.

[light dew]

hey, when do I take %increased dmg and when do i take add to attacks modifier on accessories? i dont know which is better if you could tell that'd be much appreciated

[mossy galleon]

What's the dmg you're looking for on a main skill nowadays in pob? in 1 it was like 1mil but I just put my spark archmage build in that has been very comfy in early maps and I barely have 5k dmg average hit

[merry bone]

Flat Dmg is the beginning of the damage calculation - and all modifiers are based on the flat. So in general - flat is preferred. Eventually you have enough flat, where % can be better - but you gotta be pretty decked.

[floral helm]

The clips channel I watch on YouTube Just posted this.

This is literally a mirror item if not more.

[light dew]

ty

[trim nest]

idk all these new poe youtube vids tell me thats a starter build item

[tardy dust]

soo im trying to follow a build for my spark sorc with Morior Invictus but i am not sure how to hit stat requirements like 51 strength and 51 dex. Should i just change my attribute nodes in passive tree or how do i do that?

[waxen jewel]

Could anyone with an Infernalist be so kind and test whether the self damage from Infernal Flame filling is blockable while wearing this shield?

[merry bone]

rolls on gear - or attributes on passive tree

[atomic halo]

generally self damage cannot be blocked

[waxen jewel]

AFAIK the only source of self-damage, that is a hit in the first place, is that infernalist mana overflow thing. Otherwise I'd tested this before

[floral helm]

Iirc wanting literally one of the best shields in the game to do more than it already does..... I mean, if you're lighting yourself on fire I don't think you can block that....

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, but nowhere in-game it says that, that's why I asked. It was impossible in poe1, but block got revamped anyways, so new code, new fundamentals

[floral helm]

New code new fundamentals?

How about logic?
Mana is an intrinsic part of your character. In fact it's viewed as the video game aspect of your character spirit. Something that is literally a part of you.

And you're asking if it can block the damage you take when the intrinsic part of you that is the spirit gets lit on fire.

🤣 Seriously think about it for a second you'll laugh.

[faint bobcat]

Do jewels stack up? Say I have two jewels with 1% mana gain on kill, will it stack to 2%?

[floral helm]

Yes

[merry bone]

yes

[analog drum]

For act 1 would poison arrow with spreading shot be decent?

I want to switch with gas arrows later on

[merry bone]

its act 1 - experiment, have fun

[floral helm]

I would think so, but honestly I haven't used a bow much

[waxen jewel]

The same mana that is commonly used as hitpoints pool while blinking 10 times per second? It's fine if you don't want to test, but if you want some logic:

1. Infernal Flame filling is classified as hit
2. Block by default works on only strike and projectile hits
3. The Wailing Wall is intended to extend blocking to all kinds of hits
4. Infernal Flame has a change to get blocked

[carmine flicker]

is there a way to bind teleport from blink to just one weapon set?

[pliant sleet]

Still struggling a little bit with endgame, i can drop to 0 hp in like 2seconds flat.

what should i get more of

[carmine flicker]

yeah, doesn't work with blink, since it's reservation and it change dodge roll, not add extra button

[pliant sleet]

including gear*

[faint bobcat]

Try get life on as much gear as possible and energy shield

[merry bone]

It does work with blink - you have to turn off other spirit skills for when you swap

[pliant sleet]

how much is a good amount of life, like 100?

[faint bobcat]

High roll more, around 150+

[carmine flicker]

and how will it work then?
I mean, I dodge roll.. and it just dodge roll

[pliant sleet]

i think its time to upgrade my rings

[carmine flicker]

no swapping-then-blinking

[floral helm]

Yes... Because on that same chain of logic if you're blinking 10 times per second and it's costing you mana for each of those times. Mana that you will regenerate after you stop blinking for a moment.

It's the equivalent of letting your ethereal form catch up with your physical.

You're still trying to block something that is... It's like you trying to block something that's on a whole other plane of existence.

"Hey shield, if I light myself on fire from the inside out. Can you just hop in there and block that for me?"

I just... I can't I can't with this logic.

[merry bone]

No - you have to swap weapons - and then dodget roll

[carmine flicker]

nah, I need the opposite

[merry bone]

cant do that

[radiant sable]

How much rarity should I shoot for?

[faint bobcat]

Jewels and weapons with life on kill are a game changer aswell

[carmine flicker]

ehh, then it's useless
sadge

guess shield charge will do

[pliant sleet]

something like this is good?

fire damage is dead roll for me, but i will look for similar

[merry bone]

why would it be useless? Just get a weapon with an implicit skill on it - or use a shield on your swap - press the implicit skill or raise shield - it auto swaps - you dodge roll, you use main skill and it swaps back

[faint bobcat]

yeah sure, as long as it keeps your resistances 75%

[pliant sleet]

if something adds 22 to 27 fire damage, it doesnt matter i dont have a fire spell right?

[merry bone]

correct - its just flat added dmg

[pliant sleet]

nice i found a perfect ring.

check this

[carmine flicker]

cause I don't use keyboard and have 2 buttons on mouse(well, 3, but LMB for walking)

so I can't have 2 skills AND dodge roll on it
sad

[faint bobcat]

that should definately help with the health issue

[pliant sleet]

it has lightnig resist, +23% gold (im ice strike), and 46 health per enemy

stacked with 79% belt

[merry bone]

oh right you are the guy who refuses to use the 8 total keybinds we get given because if i recall "I only press keyboard to type" or some shit

[pliant sleet]

oh and +136 hp

[faint bobcat]

yeah you should 100% see an improvement

[carmine flicker]

exactly
I don't want to play with 2 hands
it's not relaxing

[merry bone]

Having a 79% ingenuity and then using a 5EX ring is actually triggering....

[pliant sleet]

🙂

it was a gift lmao

i would not sell it for that reason

out of curiosity, how much is it worth

[merry bone]

33ish divines

[pliant sleet]

dope

nah my build still sucks im dying instantly some times

idk wtf im doin wrong lol

[carmine flicker]

what's your build?

[pliant sleet]

ice strike monk

[carmine flicker]

well
you have 1400 life and 200ES and lvl 70
yeah, that sound like dying a lot

[pliant sleet]

1600 hp now almost

idk what i can upgrade i only have like 50exalted

[carmine flicker]

at least res are capped..

[pliant sleet]

cold isnt anymore since i got a new ring, i need to upgrade something and get a bit of cold resist

[carmine flicker]

but well
eva+ES is way tanky than eva+life

[pliant sleet]

i can upgrade my helmet

[carmine flicker]

what's your tree?

do you use acrobatics?

[pliant sleet]

i do not

im following this build

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/don-cold-monk

can you recommend a helmet I can upgrade?

[outer talon]

@warbringers: cast on minion death - ball lightning - wildshards scattershot - conduction - acceleration - overcharge

ur welcome

the new firmware is in

[carmine flicker]

can't say much about that build tbh
all I know is that life suck unless you str stack and eva/es is tankiest combo(if we count EHP)
may be you should switch to it?
idk how much does it cost tho

[pliant sleet]

so just build up energy shield?

[carmine flicker]

also your body should be changed probably
you get spirit from ES/eva on chest yet you use one with low defences

[pliant sleet]

i built it cause it has 1900 evasion

[carmine flicker]

on dancing mirrage?

[pliant sleet]

oh shit sorry

i havent updated the body

on pic

i have lots of spare spirit, i have HoI and HoT - what else do I use?

I put on Grim Feast, but only lvl 9 gem

[merry bone]

Wind Dancer & Grim Feast

[mortal cloak]

Does flicker actually get benefit from magnified effect?

[pliant sleet]

i can put wind dancer on

[carmine flicker]

and ghost dance as long as you have at least -some- ES
recovering 1000+ or so ES when you are hit(once per 4 second or so but you should not be hit often) is good

[pliant sleet]

ok i got wind dancer

[carmine flicker]

so let's say you had 2k max ES and grim feast
so your ES is overflow - to 4k
now you are hit with strong hit for 3k
that remove 3k ES and trigger ghost dance - you are at 2k again and can take anoter hit like that even(you have some life too)

[pliant sleet]

what is a good support gem for it

i definitely need to get my energy shield up

because 212 is hella low i know that lol

[gray hull]

things like clarity imo for mana regen

[carmine flicker]

you can probably use 400 ES 1000 eva body instead of 2k eva body

[pliant sleet]

what about cannibalism?

4% life on kill

[gray hull]

if you're CI I don't think it procs it

if not then maybe worth it?

[pliant sleet]

CI?

[gray hull]

depend on if you need the health

[pliant sleet]

well i suppose i need energy shield

more than hp

[gray hull]

chaos innoculation, will set your life 1, but makes you immune to chaos/bleed/poison

[pliant sleet]

ah i dont run that

[gray hull]

then might be worth it to run cannibalism

[pliant sleet]

would be a shame to change the body cost me 15exalted

maybe i can sell it

[carmine flicker]

well
it won't make you immune to bleed per se..
just you can only bleed when your life was damaged by hit that cause bleeding

[gray hull]

if you're having health issues and can afford to run cannibalism

[fickle cove]

does the aoe explosion from trampletoe boots scale

[gray hull]

ye but that's effectively being immune, though not technically ofc

[pliant sleet]

my main problem is im dropping from 1600 hp to like 0 in what seems 1-2 seconds max

[hybrid ocean]

Someone already tested that the other day I believe

[pliant sleet]

some times i can health flask in between and im fine

[gray hull]

what level are you and where in the game are you?

[pliant sleet]

im 70 and just got to end game last night

[merry bone]

You are an evasion build - you arent built to facetank things. You will need to use your dodge roll - and you will need to kill fast.

[waxen jewel]

And it didn't work right?

[pliant sleet]

well that makes a lot of sense to be honest

i suppose i need a skill that maybe has more range

[waxen jewel]

I do remember talking with you about this topic though :D

[gray hull]

you wanna get your evasion rating high along with energy shield

[merry bone]

Things absolutely WILL get through and hit you - but in T1 maps with your evasion and HP you should not be consistenlyt dying unless you just arent moving - or arent killing.

[pliant sleet]

I have 86% evasion

and 212 shield

[gray hull]

there's MANY energy shield + evasion passives easy to reach

Ideally you should be combo ES + evasion

for example you have pasives like bestial skin, subterfuge mask

[carmine flicker]

well
EVA is kinda of questionable use without acro imo
most really dangerous things are AOE
but acro is 70% less so you need good gear to run it

[gray hull]

that is true

[agile meteor]

Why i got one shoted on Simulacrum ? Monsters deal Chaos DMG?

[pliant sleet]

tbh i was just following a build i found online but if theres any good monk builds I can follow I could possibly respec?

[merry bone]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/tempest-flurry-invoker#passives-header

[gray hull]

I would maybe respec passives and get better gear, like max out resists, focus on ES + evasion gear, etc

[carmine flicker]

best defences so far were huge pool(es or life+es), 90 res, mantle of flame(+infernalist if infernalist)
everything else is.. kinda meh or kinda random
or both

[pliant sleet]

I think I already have most of these

so it wouldnt be too difficult to respec to that

[hybrid ocean]

Ye

[carmine flicker]

"and protect me from harm" sound like trolling
you get 40% less eva for nothing, more or less

[gray hull]

in your scenario I would immediately get the ascend that gives spirit based on chest evasion + ES, then get a chest with enough of both (while still maxing out resists) and then run heralds or what have you + grim feast + wind dancer

[pliant sleet]

the build was really good for campaign i strolled through without any issues, soon as I hit endgame im dying constantly

[waxen jewel]

There goes my dreams of cast-on-block infernalist lol

[gray hull]

you do need good clearing ability, but if you have that then your shield is basically always doubled

@pliant sleet what are your resists like?

[gray hull]

hmm not the worst but I would wanna max out asap

[pliant sleet]

i was maxed but then i upgraded a couple pieces and lost some resist

i just been upgrading stuff atm

[gray hull]

can you post your gear?

[pliant sleet]

Yeah hold on

[gray hull]

there's specific modifers you want

[pliant sleet]

Honestly i didnt know what i was doing when I built this

so its all over the place atm

[merry bone]

how much currency do you have?

[gray hull]

how did you get an ingenuity that early christ

[pliant sleet]

I have like 50 exalted

some guy give me it

when i was asking for advice

[gray hull]

that dude handed you a very valuable armor piece

[pliant sleet]

yeh 51 exalted, and some chaos orbs and stuff, maybe all togetrher 100exalted?

yeah i figured that out whenever i post for help people laugh lol

[gray hull]

your chest isn't that bad actually, it's actually pretty good

[pliant sleet]

i paid 15ex for it just before

so i was hoping didnt need to change that

[gray hull]

you might have enough spirit from the ascendency for herald + wind + grim feast

[pliant sleet]

I have

HoI, HoT, wind + grim

right now

[gray hull]

oh sweet

[merry bone]

Combat Frenzy

you need power charges for Charged Staff

[pliant sleet]

i ahve 49 spirit rn left over

but couldnt figure out how to use the charges

on combat frenzy

[merry bone]

Gotta take this node

[gray hull]

so you get combat frezy and then the resonanace passive

beat me to it ojn

[pliant sleet]

shall i grab that now?

i can refund 2 passives

im only 2 off

[gray hull]

I would if you're running I assume charged staff

[gray hull]

charged staff as in the skill

[pliant sleet]

oh the skill

i do have that yes

[gray hull]

yessir

[pliant sleet]

but i cant use it lol

since i dont have charges

[gray hull]

then yeah you want resonance

[merry bone]

you can with Combat Frenzy & Resonance

[gray hull]

you'll get charges with freezes and/or shock

[pliant sleet]

ok i grabbed that now

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, likewise

[gray hull]

so if you're running ice strike for example you'll have more charges than you'll know what to do with lol

[hybrid ocean]

though I'm interested in how you intended to even acquire cast on block while using that shield

Since afaik it's exclusive to svalinn

[pliant sleet]

yeh i run ice strike

my favourite skilll

[hybrid ocean]

But we were testing that since it might have implications on using fireflower or heartbound loop

[gray hull]

I think we have a pretty similar build then

[pliant sleet]

i think i need to re-do all my support gems

i didnt really know when i started what i was placing into

do u have bell on ur set up?

[gray hull]

I would look at raxx's final monk build

yes gotta have the bell for dps

[pliant sleet]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/a91mv801

this one?

[gray hull]

yep

[pliant sleet]

i only have lesser orbs etc

so i can only get upto 3 slots

[gray hull]

you'll work your way up

I don't even have all links on any of my stuff

[pliant sleet]

is having 2 bells pointless?

[gray hull]

it can be useuful for boss dps

but if you're just mapping then no

[pliant sleet]

ok let me try follow this build real quick

and see how close i can get

[gray hull]

also you really want a red jewel with 1 rage on melee

not 1 rage on melee hit, as in you getting hit

along with some max energy shield jewels and some crit hit chance jewels imo

[pliant sleet]

do u know what the jewl is called?

[gray hull]

there's plenty of differing names, main thing is that rage is only on red jewels

[pliant sleet]

Do I get the suport gems in the order they're on his build?

[rapid narwhal]

Any monk players?have question

[gray hull]

you can search on the trade site with those

[gray hull]

what's up?

[pliant sleet]

so i only have 3 slots, he has 5 slots, so i copy the first 3?

[gray hull]

doesn't matter, order can be anything

[pliant sleet]

what i mean is

he has 5 gems but i can only use 3

does it matter which 3?

[gray hull]

ah like what to prioritize

[pliant sleet]

yessir

[rapid narwhal]

Bro theres a skills like wild dancer etc etc that i dont know how to get?

[merry bone]

Typically follow them in order

[pliant sleet]

ok 🙂 thats what i meant ty

[gray hull]

you need spirit gems for those

skill gems don't have things that use spirit

[rapid narwhal]

So some skill will become to wild dance if i would have spirit on it?

[pliant sleet]

font of rage is ok on tempest bell?

is that what u meant by melee

[gray hull]

it's amazing

imo

[pliant sleet]

rage makes u stronger?

[wanton juniper]

What are some ways to comfortably activate low life for a deadeye?

[gray hull]

I was talking specifically about jewels , like the ones you slot in your passives tree

[pliant sleet]

ahhh i dont really have any yet

they're starting to drop now tho 🙂

[gray hull]

1 stack of rage = 3% dmg increase

iirc

with bell you can ramp up to 30 stacks of rage iirc

someone plz correct me if i'm wrong

[pliant sleet]

dam lol

bro

[merry bone]

just use the gem in main skill - everything dies to charge staff shockwaves and heralds anyways

[pliant sleet]

my dps has went up so much already

ive only put 2 gems in so far

do people sell uncut gems anywhere?

[merry bone]

trade site

[pliant sleet]

i used all mien on stupid shit

ty i can pick some up for 1 regal each

[carmine flicker]

1 rage - 1% more damage

[gray hull]

ah thank you for correcting, I wasn't certain

[gray hull]

what kind you need?

i'll toss you some

[pliant sleet]

few lvl 3s

if u dont mind pls

[gray hull]

support?

[pliant sleet]

yeah

[pseudo junco]

can anyone explain why the goal with hexblast witch is to get as low total HP as possible?

[gray hull]

in game name is Solar_tempest, toss me an invite

[pliant sleet]

gave all my spares to my friends, but now this guide uses some diferent games

this is me btw

[carmine flicker]

Demon form

[pliant sleet]

tysm ❤️

[gray hull]

no worries

[pliant sleet]

how much do greater jewel sockets sell for

[gray hull]

about 38 ex last I checked

[pseudo junco]

yes but doesn't it just reduce raw HP per seconmd?

[gray hull]

price might have changed

[wanton dawn]

30-40?

[pseudo junco]

why would having less HP make a difference

[pliant sleet]

oo shit dam theyre expensive lol

[gray hull]

check with alva

[pliant sleet]

what tier do they start to drop?

[gray hull]

that idk

[carmine flicker]

It drain 0.5% per stack

[pseudo junco]

OOOH

i see

[gray hull]

if you need currency farming trials of chaos is very reliable

at 76 and up it's at least like 20 ex per run assuming you sell the fate drop as well and don't bother fighting trialmaster

[pliant sleet]

damm 20 ex per run?

i assume its kinda hard tho

[gray hull]

eh it depends

[mortal cloak]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/cbcd8c3f-81d0-4030-979f-ecec200b132f/builds/9aa88efb-3ec0-484a-aa2f-0744e5622345 copying this guide but confused, is resistance important ?

[carmine flicker]

Trials are also rather long
I mean, you run between rooms longer than doing them, lol
Poe 1 was so much better in that regard

[gray hull]

I've been sleep walking it and some runs are just free, for example if you have CI you just take all the bleed/poison/ chaos dmg debuffs and it does nothing to you

[quick wolf]

If I'm not scaling evasion or using evasion gear does applying Blind on hit do anything for me? It seems like I still have 0% chance to evade right?

[pliant sleet]

im pumped to finish this set up

and go test it out

[gray hull]

resists are very important

[mortal cloak]

shows no resistance anywhere but says it's good for endgame

[gray hull]

like you need maxed resists, the jump in percentage isn't additive, it's exponential iirc

[carmine flicker]

Reduce accuracy
If you run no eva spell build you don't care, ye

[gray hull]

note you want specific ascendencies as well

[lapis slate]

I have a spark build, is it normal to have a build that ran out of mana on bosses?

[pliant sleet]

i went for invoker

[quick wolf]

ok thanks, that stinks for me. I thought I was "layering defences" but alas

[pliant sleet]

i have the "Lead me through grace" for the spirit

[gray hull]

I have the same as raxx's ascend perk point distribution

[pliant sleet]

and im working toweards "unbound avatar"

can they be reset?

[gray hull]

imo not worth it

[pliant sleet]

or they're permanent?

[gray hull]

you can reset the perks

[mortal cloak]

So this won't work?

[pliant sleet]

ok dope, well i can folklow his guide

i dont actually need to reset anything to follow his guide

so even better

[carmine flicker]

Each 1% is better than previous
90 res is 2.5 times less damage compared to 75 res

[opal bobcat]

There's a way to upgrade quality specifically to upgrade life stats right?
Not sure what it is

[gray hull]

that would graph as exponential right?

[carmine flicker]

Ye

[gray hull]

oh thank god, I'm shit with math so I was half expecting it be have been log or some sht

@pliant sleet I wouldn't go for unbound avater

I would go with the 2 lightning and ice perks prior to unbound

[carmine flicker]

Ehh, I want to get 90 res 6k life with 4-5k es for endgame build
Idk how expensive could that become tho

[gray hull]

only because it makes double herald better, at least in my experience

[pliant sleet]

he doesnt have those selected on the guide tho right?

i got the blizzard one already

[carmine flicker]

Also unbound is extra button that doesn't solve your main problem
Being oneshot

[daring bobcat]

You can on rings/amulet with the right catalyst

[opal bobcat]

Yes on amulet, I just entered cruel I suppose I need to progress to get it?

[carmine flicker]

Guides are, well, guides
Not instructions or programs or rulesets

[mortal cloak]

@gray hullhow far would you get with stats like this then ?

[pliant sleet]

is there a reason this guide has empty gem slots?

is it worth putting random gems into them?

support gem slots*

[carmine flicker]

Random support gems increase mana cost often

Only put them in if they would actually do smth helpful

[pliant sleet]

Right makes sense

"ice bite" seems a good one

does the gem only work on the skill you put it into?

[carmine flicker]

Ofc

[pliant sleet]

ah wait nvm, he says to use it on ice strike

but i dont have the 4th gem slot yet

makes sense now

[carmine flicker]

Well
4th slot cost few ex
If you buy it with 4 slots 20q corrupted

[pliant sleet]

its like 20ex or so i think someone said

maybe more

[carmine flicker]

Depends on gem lvl

Lvl 20 costs a lot

[pliant sleet]

the greater gem slot i mean sorry

[carmine flicker]

Well
Ye
But you don't need to gemcut yourself

Buy someone's (failed) attempt to make it better he could sell for cheap

If you are lucky

[pliant sleet]

u mean u can buy like level 16-17 gem on market

because someone made one and doesnt need it

[carmine flicker]

Like I bought lvl 19/20q frost mages with 4 sockets for 8ex or smth

[pliant sleet]

this new build is crazy good

and oooooh i didnt know u can buy gems like that

[carmine flicker]

You didn't play poe1 I guess

[pliant sleet]

I didnt 🙂

well i dabbled, got to level 20~ or so

but didnt get much further

[carmine flicker]

Well
Try it when next league hit(if it hit.... )

[pliant sleet]

i got my first 2 atlas skills poitns now

[carmine flicker]

Also there is path of building for poe2
I really advise you to use it

It's helpful

Playing following guide is like 10% of the game
Last 90 is making your own builds

[pliant sleet]

Yeah I get that

problem is i cleared thru the campaign with super ease

got to end-game and didnt really understand anything

[carmine flicker]

Idk
That viper boss is harder than damn t15 content
Well, relative to character lvl ofc

[somber pendant]

pob for poe 2 doesnt calculate alot of stuff unless you know how to manually input them

itll get there though its like early access app for an early access game

[carmine flicker]

At least it's tree planner isn't slow lagging maxroll one

[somber pendant]

made a phys/chaos warbringer minion build ive really been enjoying playing

[carmine flicker]

Why warbringer minion?
Those from totem nodes or reavers?

[somber pendant]

most my conditionals require some shindiggery to factor in

pob

warbringer mostly for armour breaks to negative but i like the effects of the ancestral minions as well, doing my best to abuse dark effigy's extra projectiles despite how hard it is to scale the damage

[carmine flicker]

Why effigy and not, idk, shockwave?

For armour breaking

[somber pendant]

cuz thats an attack totem ;P i use a sceptre

[carmine flicker]

Oh, right

Damn poe2

[somber pendant]

lul

[carmine flicker]

Spell totem when

[somber pendant]

its working good so far, just need to fine tune some things

[carmine flicker]

Want hiero back

[somber pendant]

dark effigy is actually pretty nice, i use font of rage on it and +1 limit so i can double rage gain for reavers and ancestral minions at same time

[carmine flicker]

Reavers get rage themselves tho

[somber pendant]

with 5 chaos ailments on an enemy thats 10 aoe projectiles doing chaos hit

only if you enrage them, then they die

[carmine flicker]

Last gasp help

[somber pendant]

last gasp on my clerics

they hit max rage so easy with double font of rage, as well as if i get the ancestral minion out that gives them 5 rage per hit

[carmine flicker]

Sound ok
Except applying all those chaos dots

[somber pendant]

lol that is a downside

not a one or two button build

i have enrage and flame wall on cntrl q and cntrl w

(flame wall helps dark effigy totems break armour with the first ascendancy armour break node)

flat fire on top of all those aoe projectiles can feel pretty strong sometimes ;P

[carmine flicker]

You lost me there, sorry

[somber pendant]

only wish contagion had a better jump distance

thatd solve most my button pressing problems

[tidal copper]

Does area of effect help contagion?

[somber pendant]

it does but its better on my ancestral minions

all their effects have area of effect

even the least exciting, the turtle, i take advantage of with offensive stance node

[frank hare]

Hey, sorry, does anyone know if there are any other ways to reduce skill effect duration alongside the "fast forward" suport gem and "forthcoming" passive tree node?
Or rather any way to decrease the time between the follow up from stormcaller arrow aside from those nodes?

[somber pendant]

"near at hand" in the passive tree

[pliant sleet]

Thanks guys, this build is slapping for now

[marble plume]

that 30% makes me wanna cry

[mortal cloak]

lmao

I wish I hadn't taken the chaos res venom draught so I'd be -13

can't reroll just for that tho D=

[somber pendant]

who needs rez when every thing dead?

[marble plume]

this is true

[somber pendant]

i dont have that crazy kinda damage build so ill stick with my resists though xD

[rocky granite]

How u guys keep ur ES up when playing with Grand Regalia? I swapped off ghostwrithe and dropped down to 2k ES

[somber pendant]

plus when im tired i dont want to try and dodge everything x_X i will rage if the one thing that hits me bricks my map/boss

my swap from ghostwrithe didnt lose me much ES

[strong frost]

Anyone know why my Flicker strike isn't really chaining?

[merry bone]

most of the time - you arent doing enough dmg to proc your heralds

But impossible to tell without any info related to your build/gear

[floral helm]

Can any of you tell me if cast on shock is currently just completely broken?

Like it's not gaining energy whatsoever even with the correct support gems. And I've done what I can and it's still not gaining energy.

[somber pendant]

try it with all the energy support you can muster vs a unique

[floral helm]

I mean yeah I've been testing it for like 2 hours now and had zero luck. Which is why I'm asking here

[somber pendant]

from what i heard cast on elemental ailment is for bossing only now but thats just what i heard

[floral helm]

That would be a very weird change...

[somber pendant]

energy gain vs unique strongk energy gain vs normal wimpy

[midnight bolt]

cast on X is mainly bossing skill outside of few abuse case scenarios which will be fixed 99% sure

[somber pendant]

Why add meta skills if they dont want them being used

[midnight bolt]

i think its a good design and alligns with their idea of having several skills for clear/bossing etc

[floral helm]

I guess I'll try it on more bosses then. Because so far my testing hasn't had it working at all. Like not even a single percent.

[somber pendant]

they had the same love hate with cast on crit in poe 1

[midnight bolt]

i use cast on crit at proc over 20 comets from 1 skill use on ube bosses

so it def works, just depends on your setup

[floral helm]

Well thank you, back to testing I go

[lapis slate]

is it normal to ran out of mana in the first seconds of a boss with a spark build?

[pearl sluice]

Does this count for close range hotgs?

[thorny token]

yes why wouldnt it

[pearl sluice]

just askin for clarification, im relatively new lol sorry

[waxen jewel]

Just realized while messing in pob2, that Maim and Blind don't even have diminishing returns because Blind is a less for monster evasion modifier while Maim is a reduced

[vague ravine]

Hey all, quick PoB question (redirect me to build help if this is better suited there). In PoB my DPS calculation is pretty different then my Sheet calculation, even though I have recreated my tree and items 1 to 1, settings are set to pinnacle bosses, with correct values and buffs. My sheet dps (should) be lower then what PoB is telling, but it isn't. Whats up with that? (relatively newish player, wondering whats going on)

[thorny token]

thats not how it works rly, 2x 15% less results in higher value than 1x 30% reduced for example, and if maim is only source of reduced its effectively less

[maiden stag]

Whats the ideal amount of magic find?

[waxen jewel]

Ohh yeah, but In my mind, I defaulted on thinking both of them being reduced modifiers

[thorny token]

if they were both reduced it would be actually stronger

[vague ravine]

Also reason I ask is partly due in fact that, at least when im testing against Uber Xesht, I'm much closer to what my sheet DPS + my estimations with buff/debuffs says, then what PoB says

[thorny token]

as for example 1000 * 0.8 * 0.85 = 680 vs 1000 * 0.65 = 650

[waxen jewel]

That's not how reductions are usually calculated anywhere.

I always assume reductions work like 1 / (1.0 + reduction%)

[karmic swan]

Hey guys I am currently level 25 in Act 2 right before you unlock the ascension trials what armor would you recomend for a monk lighti=ning build looking to trade for it on the website.

[thorny token]

that is how reduction works when at 100% reduction the result is 0

[vague ravine]

not sure if you'd be buying armor at level 25, but if you're insistent ES/Evasion, or just raw ES

[thorny token]

its pretty simple

[karmic swan]

ok thanks

[waxen jewel]

It's not about being simple or not, the devs can decide whichever way. Both are logical.
Though you're right. In PoE2 there's precedent for reduction being flat like that with -%resistances. But "%increased damage taken" doesn't work like that though

Otherwise 100% shock would divide by 0

I'm just thinking out loud now

[thorny token]

well no they cant decide, there are specific wordings for this stuff

every reduction works like that

[delicate stag]

Does someone have a lvl 8 or 9 spirit gem to spare

[thorny token]

100% increased is x2 because you just add same value again, 100% reduced is 0 because you substract that value, which means 100% inc damage taken also follows the regular math

[atomic halo]

1% reduced is just -1% increased

[pliant sleet]

on the endgame maps, why is there 4 slots for keys?

[waxen jewel]

...I meant from my point of view. Every other game I've played in my life handles cooldown reductions differently. I can't know this beforehand.
Luckily GGG has amazing documentation of in-game mechanics.
Stat changes with + or - (like curses) happen first yeah, then additive changes "increased and reduced" and finally multiplicative (like the 20% less evasion blind grants).
I see no reason why there would be exception to this here.

[thorny token]

yea just saying that in this game same wording always means same thing, and if it doesnt its usually a bug

[waxen jewel]

(1 / (1.0 + 0.15 * maim_effectiveness)) / (1.0 + 0.2 * blind_effectiveness)) is the final evasion of an enemy that is maimed and blind

[waxen jewel]

So wtf are you talking about then?

[lapis slate]

So I finished my build, sorc spark with 67k dps and 5k ES 5kmana. However I just have 155% rarity.

Since Im running mahuxotl should I consider replacing some mana for rarity (if my math is correct it should give me 65% rarity for each azcapa?) it is 65x% roll

[pliant sleet]

on the endgame maps, why is there 4 slots for waystones, but you can only put in 1??

[thorny token]

well you said inc damage taken doesnt work like that even though it does and its same wording just in opposite direction

[undone peak]

I still have no idea what point Wnbeser is trying to make.

[waxen jewel]

I agree, wtf I was rambling about inc damage taken

[covert vine]

Quick question with PoB. How come when i switch an item (quiver for instance) the one i created the build with gives me my full +skills (7 total so 27) but when i input any other item i drop to +0 so flat 20. Any idea how to fix this ?

[undone peak]

What language do you find confusing? The interaction between evasion changes caused by blind and maim?

[thorny token]

yea so thats about it then :d

[undone peak]

Why did you bring up cooldown recovery?

[thorny token]

(also i did not even knew that maim reduces eva in poe2 thats pretty nice)

[fierce ore]

Guys stupid question - why does the "Falling Thunder Invoker" want all 3 damage elementals, fire , cold lightning - when it has mainly lightning skills ?

[thorny token]

even though i cant say i ever had isues with missing stuff on builds that have access to maim so maybe not

[undone peak]

Are you saying one of your quivers with +proj skills isn't working in PoB?

[mortal cloak]

no res build seems pretty solid lol

[thorny token]

i dont think you care that much about fire on that build, but if you are scaling mostly generic damage then its still good damage source, you already have all 3 res ignore anyway from invoker

[covert vine]

oh yeah, looks like it, any quiver with +proj skills just removes every + skills apparently. Anything i put in negates what i have on weapon and amulet

is there any fix ?

[undone peak]

Uhh

[fierce ore]

yeah but on the paper damage
a equal ring with
lightning + fire
does more damage like a
lightning + cold

Which makes no sense to me

[thorny token]

do you have latest pob update, there was bug with quiver +levels

[covert vine]

yes, pob is up to date

[waxen jewel]

Maim is +15% reduced evasion and 30% slow. Blind is 20% less evasion and 20% less accuracy.

[thorny token]

equal tier or equal value

[covert vine]

wep/amulet seems fine, but when i try to put a +skills quiver it just negates everything to flat 0, so 20 gems

[fierce ore]

equal value

[undone peak]

@covert vine i cannot reproduce the issue

i have a +2 quiver and a +2 amulet and it is working

[thorny token]

then you must have some extra fire scaling somewhere or its calculating some bullshit like ignite

[fierce ore]

k thanks I will check

[undone peak]

@covert vine https://pobb.in/DE3gduCgiMMM

+2 quiver, +2amulet and results in a 24 pconc

[covert vine]

whats the latest pob version

is 0.3.0 out yet ? i have 0.2.0 and my pob client says no update available

[thorny token]

0.3.0

should be out

[fierce ore]

But stupid question - can we really rely on paper DMG at skills ? 🙂 // new to POE2

[undone peak]

For some skills, yes. For others, no.

[thorny token]

like in game? for most skills no

[undone peak]

For example, the hit DPS of spark is very wrong both in PoB and in-game.

[thorny token]

only thing you can rely on there is seeing % increases from non-conditionals, but even then might be inacurrate

[fierce ore]

kk - yeah I meant in general like
if the paper dmg ingame increased from 50k to 51k at a skill

[thorny token]

dues to resists

[undone peak]

Yes, percentage changes rarely lie.

[thorny token]

basically anything involving enemy stats or conditionals makes the tooltip wrong

[undone peak]

If your tooltip DPS increases by 10%, then you probably got 10% more damage.

[thorny token]

they do lie if you have bunch of fire pen for example but you grab cold damage

the tooltip doesnt know

[fierce ore]

kk thx for the info // helped me out a lot 🙂

[thorny token]

because it doesnt have enemy stats

[waxen jewel]

I admit @thorny token you are right, Sorry. I was confused and annoyed. Let me try again. A less modifier turns into additive when talking about reductions.
So blind + maim on an enemy results in: enemy_evasion_rating = (1.0 - (0.2 * (1.0 + blind_effect))) / (1.0 + 0.15 * (1.0 + maim_effectiveness))

Which is 70% evasion rating by default

[calm island]

Hello! I got a question for the path of building users. In the tree tab, is there a way to select your passive, but based on your weapon set?

[waxen jewel]

This makes me value blind effectiveness more highly (still never gonna pick a node though lol)

[undone peak]

Click this

[thorny token]

blind effect can be pretty good i guess with acro but yea im not clicking that either

[undone peak]

Although I'm not 100% sure I'm understanding your question correctly

[thorny token]

assuming enemies use their accuracy also for spells which they should otherwise their spells would never hit against eva :d

[waxen jewel]

They sure do for stuff like fireball projectiles or whatever

[calm island]

nah, you got me right, that's what I was looking for. Thanks!

[waxen jewel]

Or atleast I evade those projectiles that I can only assume are spells

[cedar charm]

What are the best mods for belts?

[undone peak]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Modifiers

Although I should really start posting craftofexile these days since the author managed to estimate mod weightings which is OP: https://www.craftofexile.com/en?game=poe2

[cedar charm]

Thanks!

[undone peak]

Oh... I somehow totally misread your question. The best mods are these:

with the red lines

[waxen jewel]

I'm playing Blink on my secondary weapon set (to gain 60 spirit) and decided to add Lingering Illusion with it. My blink has Second wind socketed in it so I can cast it twice quickly. The weird thing is that when I blink twice in a row somehow I 100% of time gain 2 power charges. Something is very bugged here or I don't get something

I'd suspect temporalis blink just get's free power charges with this

[undone peak]

Isn't that what you'd expect?

2 dodge rolls so 2 power charges from the illusions?

[thin basin]

you have any of the double charge stuff?

[waxen jewel]

".... copies that are destroyed by enemies can grant you a power charge"

Im at my hideout

[thin basin]

ci?

also could just be you can only have one of those illusion up at the same time? so when you double blik one get killed

[cedar charm]

Is there a base belt that is usually best or is it mostly just trying for the best mods?

[undone peak]

Best is 20% of flasks are used instantly

but belts are so rare that beggers can't be choosers

most people show all rare belts

unless in super juiced mapping content late game

i'd recommend showing all belts of any rarity if you're in campaign

[cedar charm]

I just have so many lol. I’m trying to clean them out. Is there a charm type that is considered best to hold on to? Or is that more type specific?

[waxen jewel]

And now It suddenly doesn't work at all. The illusions are very confising.
The #1 weirdest thing is that you can assign weapon set's separately for the "Buff" part of the Lingering Souls and the "Illusion" part

Whatever, I have no use for power charges anyways. Just messing aroound

[undone peak]

could it be that by blinking away far enough you force the minions to despawn

similar to what happen prior to a recent patch with other minions like arsonists

[waxen jewel]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too right now

[pine stream]

is this a place i can see the permanent buffs i took during the campaign?

[waxen jewel]

THe fact that there are 2 charges might be due to the socketed profusion too

[undone peak]

sadly no, although you can go to passive tree and if you see 24 weapon set points or w/e in the top right then that's all points done

but for resistances there is no quick way other than doing math lol

u should have 100 spirit from non-gear sources at end of campaign

[pine stream]

yes i have the 24 and 100 but thats dumb haha I dont remember what i took for the other buffs

[undone peak]

you can hover over the map icons on the world map for the acts

to see if u got the resistance ones

[spare quartz]

Does anyone know if "Increased Flask charges gained" from a jewel, works on the 0.25 charges gained per second? Or just on charges from kills

[undone peak]

it does work on that

[spare quartz]

Nice thanks ok, my Ranger definitely needs a few of those gems

[undone peak]

pconc?

[spare quartz]

Running out of flasks in citadel bosses is a problem, yeah pconc

[undone peak]

reduced charges used also works on your 3 mana cost of pconc btw

as well as sources of percentage change to not consume a flask

[spare quartz]

I just changed a bunch of my sheet dps from being attack speed to raw damage so that should help

[undone peak]

it's not too hard to get a belt that brings you down to 2 mana charges per flask throw

which obviously is a big deal...

[spare quartz]

I found a great unique belt today that i would love to use for flask charges but I bought ingenuity the other day

I was using a flask with 120 charges and alchemist for 0.27 regen, going to now try a 0.25 regen flask with the 0.27 from boon, and 30% more charges gained from a couple jewels

Regular flask with 0.25 regen has around 50 less charges, so about 17 less flasks ready at start of a fight. Takes a minute or two to catch up to the increased charges flask

[fervent briar]

is berserk bugged in pob or am i tripping

[cedar charm]

Does more light radius increase presence?

[atomic halo]

no

[cedar charm]

Is there any way to increase presence?

[pine stream]

is there a separate path of building discord or can we talk about it here?

[ripe seal]

Anyone building a pconc pathfinder?

dm if you are

[thin basin]

unique helmet

[distant cypress]

how does this variable radius work?

[thin basin]

the ring line determines

[astral badger]

im using mom/eb with 4800 mana. I'm trying to hit 5000. What can I do gear-wise? Here is my gear setup (ignore the mana # as POB is calculating it wrong): https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/cq6tu05l

[merry bone]

All you can do is get higher rolls on everything. More ES and More mana in every slot

[undone peak]

helm can get 200 more ES

[astral badger]

i feel like every time i check the trade site everything is similar or worse to what i have. and even a modest increase is like a 20 div cost lol

ill look for a better helm

[merry bone]

well yea every % increase at some point begins to cost exponentially more than the % before

[undone peak]

convert lightning to cold is a strange choice

[merry bone]

Add Ingenuity maybe? Add Dream Frags?

[undone peak]

just trying something you cooked up yourself i guess?

[astral badger]

I thought about ingenuity

[undone peak]

because feels like call of the botherhood replaced with another breach ring is just better

and be lightning

[astral badger]

This is a build made by the streamer immortilize

it's a really fun build - not super ultra one shot meta but as a reference, i beat +3 Xesht pretty easily yesterday

Most bosses while mapping get rinsed in a few seconds

Lightning warp is the core of the build along with eye of winter and comet for bossing. Without call of the brotherhood, lightning warp doesnt contribute to cast on freeze.

[astral badger]

I thought about ingenuity, yeah. my belt has some key resistances though so that'll require big changes to the other pieces

[fervent briar]

do curses not work in pob yet?

[undone peak]

conductivity does

[merry bone]

if swapping out call of the brotherhood isnt an option not sure ingenuity would even make sense then

[fervent briar]

when i turn it on it doesnt work

[undone peak]

remember that you cannot reduce monster resistance below 0%

so if you already have a lot of penetration

then the enemy might already be at 0%

[fervent briar]

i thought that was only penetration that worked that way

i thought exposure and curses could bring them negative

[merry bone]

You can bring resistances negative. Exposure and Curses can. Penetration can not - and penetration is last in the calculation - so if the monster is negative after curse & exposure, all penetration is wasted

[astral badger]

Wait...without the belt, only lightning resist goes below 75%. i wonder what ingenuity roll i'd need to hit 75% lightning, since brotherhood has lightning resist

but i also lose the 170 mana so who knows

[fervent briar]

conductivity does nothing even if i set monster res to 0

[undone peak]

currently PoB does not think a curse can bring a monster's resistance below 0

i admit i'm not 100% sure whether PoB is correct or not

[fervent briar]

ok so it appears that curse dont work on pinnacle bosses in pob

if you tick no it works like normal

[undone peak]

curse does work if the mob is above 0% on pob

[fervent briar]

if you're on guardian/pinnacle curse does nothing

[undone peak]

that is incorrect

curse works for me on guardian/pinnacle

as long as i haven't penetrated to 0%

[fervent briar]

i have 0 pen

[fervent briar]

doesnt matter what pob says though. was just curious

[fervent briar]

oh, ya i see. i had the pen gem in. thats only 30 though and curse is 36, and pinnacle boss is 50 res. so curse should bring them to 0 from the 20 res they had with pen

shame that vulnerability just does nothing

[undone peak]

it's working for me lol

[fervent briar]

vuln functionally does nothing

ignoring armour, big whoop

[undone peak]

well yeah, vuln is red text so it's not a recognized mod yet

[fervent briar]

i just mean, instead of a multiplier on damage, it just ignores armour. which doesnt really do shit

12k armour is almost no mitigation on a large hit

unless you are hitting like 30x a second for a small hit its worthless

[undone peak]

you're all over the place, w/e gl hf

[fervent briar]

idk what you're referring to

[undone peak]

dfdfads

[fervent briar]

if your hit hits for 500k 12k armour may as well be 0 armour

[undone peak]

2+2=4. price of butter in china is $5. umbrellas are great. oranges taste nice.

[thin basin]

chances are armor on mobs work different than armor on you

[azure solstice]

So I'm doing an infernalist comet storm build, I'm having a really hard time understanding why I'm 1 shotting myself, would anybody have any guides I could reference for idiots?

[undone peak]

uhhh are u pyro pact??

[azure solstice]

yeah

[undone peak]

well that'll do it

[azure solstice]

But I see people using it for comet build and saying they're offsetting the amount of comet and infernal flame buildup with fire resist.

Did something change with the update to prevent that strat?

[undone peak]

you have the damage recoup u need?

if you're playing the build im thinking of then it's quite complicated to get the loop going...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1rpTp7-FMSsqfNhfF6ZdllVJMHpvGui/edit?gid=2039417568#gid=2039417568

im guessing you're getting the loop going but aren't recouping enough damage to sustain it and so you're killing yourself

[bronze coral]

can you replace runes on corrupted items?

[spare quartz]

Can anyone explain why the jewel giving 15% projectile damage is showing a much bigger increase in damage than the 16% projectile node

On poison concoction

[undone peak]

show us the jewel mate

[spare quartz]

I'm the first picture

On the left

Quarterstave damage evasion and increased flask charges gained

[undone peak]

uhhh

good question

[merry bone]

The estimated calculation is almost certainly thinking the attack speed will apply

[spare quartz]

I guess that's gotta be it, 2% is rather low though. I'm assuming it isn't calculating extra flask charges gained in a 1 minute period of time 🤣

I also replaced a 13% quiver gem that has 11% increased damaging ailment duration, with 9% increased projectile damage. Only went up 1000 damage from that

[hidden crown]

Which build u guys prefer (overall)?

Hexblast bloodmage

Hexblast Chaotic Acolyte of Chayula

[spare quartz]

So apparently they are calculating the 11% extra duration from damaging ailments into poison concoction or the 9% projectile damage would've added 5-10k damage not 1k

From what i recall before, increased poison durations from passives didn't calc into any of my skills

[devout coyote]

does POB show how much effect of Magnitude of Shock i have somewhere?

[undone peak]

it does not

[devout coyote]

its a massive part of my damage id think, so thats kind of weird

[undone peak]

just go into a map with a boss and look at how much shock you apply

it's not something that is easy to calculate so they dont bother trying

but its very easy to find out empirically

[golden dawn]

i can't figure out which wand is better for trampletoe boots

can someone help