2┃build-planning

[jaunty flame]

my current body armor is doryani's

[atomic halo]

40% allres is pretty nice

[jaunty flame]

im trying to swap off it

currently i have like 11k evasion

which is cut in half by sorc ward

i had a pair of 800 eva boots that i sold of

kind of regretting it now

anyway

[still rock]

tbh i think its only really usable with sekhema ring and ingenuity and ruby/topaz/sapphire ring for whatever defense youre aiming for

[jaunty flame]

im thinking if its worth with like

ingenuity + ventors

for overall defense

but i can't really get good flat numbers on all of it

might be better off wearing a grand regalia

[static plinth]

Mahuxotl's with res runes

[still rock]

well this would increase es given by life from disdain

[static plinth]

Actually wait that might not be meme thats like 180% lightning res

[still rock]

so cold sekhema, sapphire ring, ingenuity

[static plinth]

Oh wait evasion is lightning

[jaunty flame]

sure but thats like 4 pieces for survivability

where does the rest of the damage come from then

[static plinth]

We need actual stacker gear like dreamfeather for this yeah

Not just stat/life stackers

[still rock]

sapphire rings can have more than one mod lol

[jaunty flame]

I'm aware

[static plinth]

We need Energy Blade

[still rock]

and assuming ingenuity affects the jewel inside the sekhema ring idk if it does or not

[jaunty flame]

is it even better than just using a grand regalia with + max life/hp and attributes

[atomic halo]

my verdict is bait considering the tools we have at hand, but it could get good in the future

[jaunty flame]

figured

[drifting cedar]

wait for replica dreamfeather and armor to be good

then it will be a chase unique

[jaunty flame]

also can someone tell me

how heroic tragedy jewels work

[atomic halo]

it's complicated, read this https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1228412901027741786

[still rock]

do we know the seed data yet

or is it a crapshoot

[jaunty flame]

what the fuck

[static plinth]

Thoughts and prayers

[jaunty flame]

why is this a full document

[static plinth]

Thats why we have a post we just direct people to lol

[jaunty flame]

holy hell

and to think

i cant find this damned pinnacle boss

because he's rng

[halcyon solar]

The one mechanic that consistenly keep blowing me up on T15+ is Expedition. It's probably because i simply blow up as much as possible without understanding it entirely

[still rock]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

the guy who came up with timeless jewels at ggg

[static plinth]

Im sure someone out there has a super op build that only works because of a specific timeless seed

[halcyon solar]

maybe i should watch a RageGaming Video about expeditions then

[still rock]

id advise not ever watching a RageGaming video

but its your life

[halcyon solar]

the sarcasm was supposed to be obvious 🙂

[jaunty flame]

ugh

decisions decisions

do i swap over to an attribute stacking build where i basically play a weaker gemling or do i try to theorycraft more on this

[still rock]

this is a channel where people ask how they can have someone play the game for them every other 15 minutes you can never be too sure

[halcyon solar]

nah, but in all honesty Expeditions is my bane. Since the other mechanics are pretty easy to handle meanwhile i'm overconfidently blowing up as much as i can and then always get one-shot.

[jaunty flame]

doryani's is funny but getting blown up by random lightning is starting to get old

ive not moved an inch from lvl 93 and my death counter is at like 500

[still rock]

yeesh

sounds like you need to add some defense into your build lol

[jaunty flame]

i can 1 tap everything and comfortably do most pinnacles that aren't simulacrum

[still rock]

the point of doryanis is to get armor somewhere otherwise you just die a lot

[jaunty flame]

unfortunately sorc ward (the only somewhat relevant witch hunter node) has taken it

[halcyon solar]

All the expedition yt-vids i have looked up are just explaining the basics and not some kind of strategy of getting good loot without committing certain suicide.

[still rock]

well then maybe dont use doryanis lol

[jaunty flame]

can't lmao

[pseudo kayak]

What are build (or at least skill) are people running for MF cullers?

[jaunty flame]

because i don't reach any sort of damage necessary for my t4 breachstones without it

[still rock]

you can run a different body armor for mapping

[jaunty flame]

well i did

and i still get blown up by random nonsense

so to me it was the same shit

[still rock]

yeah not being es in current state of game is tears

only tears

[jaunty flame]

hold

let me hop on my pc

and show you my current setup

[still rock]

can someone give me a tldr rundown of how crossbow loading works

for the "rounds" skills

[jaunty flame]

loading?

[still rock]

is it just an attack

or does it buff another attack

[jaunty flame]

you pay mana to add ammo

wait what rounds skill

im missing something

[still rock]

armor piercing rounds, fragmentation rounds, high velocity rounds, etc

[jaunty flame]

armor piercing breaks armor

frag pops freeze to do extra damage

[midnight bolt]

Does anyone know at what % adorned rounds up 2 max res jewel to 4% max

[jaunty flame]

high velo consumes broken armor to do more damage

its an attack which has a "condition"

wait ok ignore that

it just consumes a debuff to do more damage

[viral crag]

I'm seriously wondering if I drop the EB stuff and just go big ES until I get a gaze.

[still rock]

yes

[jaunty flame]

i have like 2 es on grim feast

2k es

3k sorc ward

2k hp

[still rock]

if you ask yourself "should i go es" if you arent es then the answer is yes

[jaunty flame]

but because of doryanis i randomly die to random things anyway

lmao

and half the time its not even lightning

[viral crag]

Was mostly just going big mana for arch to get some kick on stuff like hexblast, hope that effigy* interacts with it, that sort of thing.

Was on mom as well, and pretty comfy with not having ES at that point.

[pearl sluice]

I wonder if decaying hex will be "fixed" to work just like corrupting blood, or if the devs do not intent it to be a "main damage" ability

[still rock]

i mean it should atleast function similarly for consistency regardless of the intent

so in this case its bugged

and it should be fixed

[viral crag]

To be fair, they can also set the base damage and still have it scale better than just "stack int"

[jaunty flame]

sorc ward casually eating all of my evasion to give me 2.6k hp

and it still sucks ass

[glass compass]

Is going above 100% of (increased rarity of items found chance) in my gear still increase the chance or not worth it?

[lament sentinel]

anyone know if they plan to enable weapon set swap for concoction skills?

[jaunty flame]

most people say above 200% is diminishing returns

[glass compass]

Thanks

[jaunty flame]

i mean i do have this

but im not sure what use i have for more spirit

[viral crag]

So, hear me out @still rock

As I understand poison, you still "apply" poisons even when you already have an active poison.

And I can make effigy vomit poison.

[jaunty flame]

i also have one of these

[viral crag]

So this does something, right?

[jaunty flame]

but im not sure 4 slot grand regalias are of any use

[still rock]

if you inflict a poison it would add a stack of 10% inc duration yes

[jaunty flame]

@still rockthoughts?

[still rock]

but duration doesnt really do anything

[jaunty flame]

what grand regalia should i use

[viral crag]

Duration.

And now I'm sad.

Good catch, ty.

[still rock]

why dont you just use a rare

[amber wharf]

Stuck

[jaunty flame]

got 2 ventors that just fix all my res problems without chest

[still rock]

door stuck

[still rock]

rare for defenses and life

mana and spirit does nothing for you

[viral crag]

Easiest geoguessr so far.

[jaunty flame]

well i have this thing that can't sell

[still rock]

i just use rares i hardly ever put uniques into my builds unless it specifically enables something

[jaunty flame]

this too

but i don't need more eva

[viral crag]

We do be stuck sometimes though.

Honestly now I just need to figure out something to either replace unearth with, or make unearth do something for my build other than just be a wall of meat.

Which, granted, wall of meat isn't terrible.

[still rock]

unearth is p useless if you arent doing minion stuff

ig yeah other than being a wall of meat

[viral crag]

Yeah, that's pretty much all it's been for now. It chokes things, pulls aggro.

Didn't have anything I terribly liked better for the slot lol

Could probably do that damage aura around corpses thing, just wasn't a huge fan of it.

Need something to do with the power charges really.

[still rock]

bone storm

wait what are you scaling

[viral crag]

Guess there's that one support that eats charges to buff the spell.

[still rock]

idek what your build is

[viral crag]

It's pretty much anything chaos/spell is viable.

[still rock]

if youre dot focused then power charges are mostly useless

[viral crag]

Yeh, also got some hit though. Thought about using it to charge hexblast.

Just don't know if it needs it with inevitable.

[still rock]

yeah charge infusion for hexblast would be good if you need the crit

profane ritual is really only useful for charge generation

[viral crag]

Yeah, main reason I wasn't running it before... but I also wasn't on hex at the time.

[flat stream]

Anyone have success with a monk coc build? CoC has always been my favorite build in poe1 so I want to try it in 2 as well.

[celest oxide]

What’s the best Xbow build in the game?

[still rock]

I was gunna try to draw one up using collapsing horizon but i wasnt sure what spells to generate

didnt get to that part yet

but definitely invoker

and mostly likely also running cast on freeze

and having eow somewhere in there

[viral crag]

Was going to say, if you're not already over there give the church a try @flat stream https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1322159812863066133

[wanton fern]

What build is best rn on merc playing this rn https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/explosive-shot-witchhunter-build-guide
but feels so glass cannony lit get one shots above t8

[still rock]

good question tbh i have no idea lol

id assume it'd take the highest magnitude value of the two

but maybe it takes both additively, who knows

[viral crag]

Expected behavior for me is that you do get 70% here... but as always, we need to test these things 😅

Wait, isn't chill magnitude a separate attribute from how much they are slowed by the chill?

[still rock]

ah fark you need accuracy for grenades

duh

[jaunty flame]

hey speak of the devil it just dropped

[median valve]

can I not allocate Eternal Youth passive in only 1 weapon set? Weapon sets confuse the hell out of me so not sure if I'm doing something wrong or if certain key passives can't be added to them

[reef moat]

Not a monk one, but there is a coc spark which uses temporalis. Expensive build but poe 1 gameplay, blink and everything dies.

You have to not go crazy on crit chance to reduce chances of instance crash.

[thin basin]

you cant weapon set keystone

or jewel socket nodes

[carmine flicker]

how bad would be self cast comet now?

[halcyon solar]

At what dodge%/Rating would it be wise to finally switch to Acrobatics as Deadeye?

I have 13350=82% atm

[thin basin]

20k pre acro

[halcyon solar]

do Spark Sorc actually use their shield actively?

since i guess not i wonder why not a staff or a focus?

[astral cove]

Hey guys 😄
I'd like to try out the armour break warbringer build. Since I'll be playing in SSF I was wondering how viable one handed mace feels until ~tier 10 maps (so I can get giants blood for 2h maces). Do you have any experiences you can share?

[still rock]

@drifting cedar https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/pn2670z7

boombringer ready for action

[true sparrow]

Does the Time lost jewels that give stats in a radius apply to nodes that are enabled or also the disabled ones?

[static plinth]

You need them allocated

[kindred path]

Dum question, but if I manage to get -100% duration of X ailment, am I effectively immune to that ailment?

[static plinth]

As long as there isn't a map mod that extends their duration

[drifting cedar]

im sold on the name alone

[static plinth]

Is this the grenades one

[still rock]

gunna yoink someone elses gem supports

[drifting cedar]

is this a life build i see

[still rock]

until i get a feel for it

[kindred path]

Ah shit, yeah, makes sense, thanks 👍

[still rock]

just doing ar/es disdain again

its too simple and good and it works with str

[drifting cedar]

i think crit will be hard to get past like 30%

but hey

looks fun

[still rock]

might drop it

i dont even know what crit values are on xbow

[drifting cedar]

5%

to 10% ig

[still rock]

booo

[drifting cedar]

keep in mind crossbows are 2h weapons too

so you can take all that stuff

and -attack speed wont matter on a CD build

[still rock]

yeah i will if the crit isnt high

[drifting cedar]

honestly I like it though

I'd be very tempted to try a 2 weapon set build like this using totem sticks

just 1h, no giants blood

tree is touching all the big totem stuff

[still rock]

lots of jewels, leech, no mana issues, strength for life

[sinful minnow]

I have a question about the projectiles created by the shrapnel from Molten Blast ... in terms of Point Blank (Deadeye)...do those proj begin their movement when they are created to receive the point blank buff? Or do the shrapnel projectiles use the same calc as the original projectile ? thanks 🙂

[drifting cedar]

if you are going to use partial fire damage then yes, physical nodes are much less efficient

[drifting cedar]

cant wait til I can take these on a build without travelling for a year

so looking forward to templar

health regen is pretty nice, armor is in a bad spot though yeha

[pearl sluice]

And aren’t all warrior weapons maces? Atleast for the skills like hammer of gods

Atleast for early access

Bc it makes sense to choose the increased mace damage atm if it accounts fire too

Choosing all the damage nodes that are for any type of damage if the “15% increased mace damage” accounts all types than it makes sense

This is like a beginner mid act2

[vital aspen]

any suggestions for other skills I can set up with cast on freeze for my shattering concoction pathfinder to improve AoE? I've got freezing mark only rn

[lunar totem]

Does "Damage taken recouped as mana/life" happen when you pay life for a spell?

[compact stream]

Anyone know the cap for spirit from this?

[hazy nest]

How does % scale work exactly? Like I have a 2 rune socket chest shield, if I socket lets say 2x 5% elemental resist (totalling to 10%) ele resist - what do I get as ele resist in total at 600%?

[rapid wadi]

how are people converting all their energy shield to mana and using CI at the same time? going to 1 life is super sketchy if u give up all your ES

i dont get how these eldritch battery builds are staying alive

[still rock]

i love life regen

% life regen fucks

[thin basin]

might have enough res with ingen to run cataclysm ring lol

100 bonus 90 cc 28 chaos res pretty good yea?

[arctic pond]

On bows that shoot multiple projectiles, can all projectiles hit the same enemy?

[left ledge]

what are the good trials os sekemah running builds?

[hallow sky]

can someone tell me what I should look into jewels for the warrior titan stampede build ???

[halcyon solar]

If i have all the Fates for the Trial Master. Do i have to do a 10 again or can i just do a short one to get to the end?

[still rock]

it seems that finding an xbow with +proj and crit is almost impossible

oh i had exalt filter on

lel

[rapid wadi]

how are people converting all their energy shield to mana and using CI at the same time? going to 1 life is super sketchy if u give up all your ES
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[6:47 PM]
i dont get how these eldritch battery builds are staying alive

[viral crag]

I'm unsure about the question. Not sure what is being asked.

The answer is defensives, lots of mana, and lots of regen.

Recoup helps as well.

Thing to keep in mind is that mana is like an energy shield that doesn't stop regenerating just because you took damage.

[celest oxide]

I'm really tempted to sell off my like 15-20 Div worth of gear on my infernalist to gear my Merc, bad idea?

[viral crag]

It's EA, if it sounds fun just pull the trigger imo 🤷

Like now is one of the best times to play around. You're not falling behind, you're not losing anything.

Get out there and play 👍

[celest oxide]

True

Just the merc build involves HOWA (Which I have) and I'm scared stat stacking might get nuked this week

Idk how GGG nerfs

I'm trying to make an xbow build

[viral crag]

Yeah, especially during EA that's one I can't answer.

[celest oxide]

I don't need it to be the strongest build in the game just need it to be good

[viral crag]

imo everybody should expect nerfs during EA. Need to cut down the outliers to truly start balancing before launch.

[celest oxide]

I know Demon Form will pretty much go untouched

I agree

But I'm hoping maybe Pillar will get nerfed instead of Howa?

or at least Pillar will be the one to get nuked

[frosty arrow]

Mana Regen. You get smaller buffer than pure ES, but mana always regenerates

[limpid plover]

anybody know if cast on ignite works with the radiant grief hood?

[frosty arrow]

Biggest danger is poison though

[viral crag]

I am confused. Why is poison dangerous?

[frosty arrow]

Poison in general is big killer endgame, just absurd amounts of damage sometimes

[viral crag]

To a character running CI though... ?

[frosty arrow]

No, but we're talking eldritch battery

[viral crag]

Ah, that's the problem 😅

They said using EB and using CI at the same time.

They were concerned about living with 1 HP and just off the mana pool.

[mossy moat]

Hello, I'm trying to find a way to convert elemental damage from spells into physical damage. Does anybody know of a way to do that?

[viral crag]

I've got nothing for this one 🤷

Like I know you can sacrifice elemental damage to boost the existing physical damage of attacks, but I'm not aware of anything that's an outright conversion.

[mossy moat]

I haven't been able to find anything either - just wanted to throw it out there in case I was missing something obvious. Thank you!

[hot rapids]

Is it better to have % elemental damage increase or % attack damage increase when speccing for for monk skills?

[viral crag]

I never like this answer, but it honestly is "it depends", and on a lot.

What skill and how you build your character, what other passives you have.

If you're using only attacks, and dealing only elemental though, they will generally (very broadly speaking here) be equal when all other things are equal.

[hot rapids]

i am ice strike monk running a double herald setup with bell, mostly speccing into crit, got a few last points and idk to spec into 50 percent elemental or 44 percent attack damage

just wasnt sure which gave more scaling

[supple jay]

you can add a socket to all non-corrupted uniques right?

that arent jewels or stuff that cant get sockets

[mortal pollen]

so i have no idea of what could get out of it 🤔 but infernalist demonform cwdt frostbolt/ice nova? could it work? mostly because i don't like to turn blind because of a comet

[polar anvil]

Is a 100 dps bump sizable?

[restive flint]

Does Arcane Tempo + Flame Wall helps the speed of Skeletal Arsonist?

[tidal copper]

How do you play hexblast? Need a quick curse application ig?

[indigo pilot]

is there any way to see the totem placement speed?

[viral crag]

Honestly, two different playstyles and I kind of prefer the normal speed (if not for the node that doubled my curse application time)

Since curses have an activation delay, and hexblast is near-instant, you can actually cast your curse then detonate it just before the new curse activates.

So you lose very little uptime on your curse.

[rapid wadi]

yeah but mana regen does nothing when u are at one life with no energy shield

[viral crag]

@tidal copper If you want though, you do have the option to just go for faster activation or to even go with the unique that makes curse application have no delay.

[viral crag]

You might be misunderstanding why people go Eldritch Battery and CI then, generally anyone taking that will either be stacking ES via another method (eg. Gaze) or using Mind over Matter, which makes damage come from your mana pool before your life gets hit.

[thin basin]

blue 60 spirit es chest base is 3d

💀

[tidal copper]

Uniques will be costly for my build
I'll see if I can get used to curse curse hex hex
Do you need any curse speed for this

[viral crag]

So the unique I'm referring to (Windscream) is actually pretty cheap, and can be picked up for 1 ex regularly iirc.

But it's definitely not required, and no curse speed is required either 👍

I played for quite a while without that unique doing what I mentioned earlier. Just cast curse, cast hex, repeat 😅

If you're doing double hexes though, unless you work out the order they get removed I would recommend just popping both and reapplying both.

[tidal copper]

Single hex I'm trying to make the shadow staff work
Spells cost life and you get 1% chaos damage per 3 life codt

[viral crag]

That's cute. It's also going to be painful lol
Both hexblast and curse application are quite pricey, should be fun though.

Then yeah, you can try to time it but if you apply your curse then just pressing curse->hexblast as many times as you want should do just fine.

[ashen plume]

we cant put support gems into meta skills anymore? couldve sworn we can

[storm escarp]

would anyone be willing to help me with my build?

[formal violet]

Don't ask to ask! Post your question here so that people actually know if they can help. It's also better to discuss your question publicly so more people can chime in or learn! That's why these channels are here!

[haughty dove]

Hello I just started a sorc what the build build most people are useing for end game is it Spark Storweaver

[atomic halo]

yeah

[haughty dove]

thank you

[distant cypress]

does lightning quality affects "lightning dmg to atks"

[atomic halo]

yes

[north heath]

im using threaded light, any idea what level ill be able to replace it for other spell damage items? (chest 100, neck 30, septre 140 spirit)

[drowsy tinsel]

Which charms do you all recommend running with 2 slot belt?

[north heath]

freeze bleed

[drowsy tinsel]

Would you say the elemental resist is worth it?

[north heath]

on a charm? 0

[drowsy tinsel]

Haven’t really noticed a big difference

Yeah

[north heath]

its useless, it only applies when you get hit but your resist should be at 75 already

[sage gyro]

does "75% increased Thorns damage if you've blocked Recently" get ignored if you have avatar of fire?

[atomic halo]

no

why would it

[drowsy tinsel]

Trying to find better gear. Slow going

[north heath]

no just fire thorns

[atomic halo]

also wy would you ever use thorns seriously

[rotund solstice]

Trying to decide between gas arrow and poison concoction pathfinder, anyone have experience with both in end game and recommend which is better on an EXTREMELY low budget (dad gamer)

[sage gyro]

i thought damage modifiers were ignored and only fire ones mattered? maybe i have a misunderstanding in a step

[static plinth]

Extremely low budget go for gas arrow

Poison conc needs a lot of +quiver effect

[thin basin]

what are some good lingering spells

similar to ball lightning

i mean orb of storm

[north heath]

stationary?

[atomic halo]

type-specific damage modifiers that apply to other types are ignored

there's no reason "#% increased Damage" is suddenly forgotten about

[rotund solstice]

Thanks. I’m assuming that I can transition to pconc later.

My experience so far is witch hunter to t13s so it’s only up from here.

[atomic halo]

anything like "Thorns" is just a qualifier

and if it's still thorns damage there's no reason why it wouldn't apply

[sage gyro]

can you give me an example of this?

[atomic halo]

like if it says "cold damage"

[north heath]

adds cold damage

[atomic halo]

if it says "#% increased Cold Damage" it wouldnt apply if you have AoF

because it's fire damage and not cold damage

[hot rapids]

would this be the ideal quarterstaff for a monk?

[atomic halo]

not really that deep

thats not really how you should filter it

those are good modifiers you would want to see on one, yeah

[hot rapids]

how should I do it?

[atomic halo]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/XXnbaPbiP

for example

and sort by dps

adjust numbers to your liking

[hot rapids]

tysm!

[thin basin]

i wonder if something like coc frostbolt coldsnap can work prob wouldve been fine before the freeze on bosses nerf

or just coc coldsnap

[covert cargo]

Any crazy late game summoner infernalists around that can do ANY content in their sleep? I have a few questions. Should I go Trenchtimber + omen scepter late game each with +4 minion skill, OR a scepter with 60% block on a shield? Thanks

[hasty vale]

Anyone know how many skill points you should have at the end of the campaign?

[strange narwhal]

is soul core of zantipi worth it for an int mage?

[frosty arrow]

mind over matter takes damage from your mana first

but you generally don't do CI and eldritch battery. You go CI, or you go EB+MoM

not both

[thin basin]

u can do all w the amulet

[viral crag]

If you're taking both CI and EB though?

[thin basin]

or not even

[misty vortex]

Any recommendations on classes that go well together I can play with my wife doing co op?

[viral crag]

Better be taking mom as well lol

[thin basin]

as long as your mana is high enough you can take all 3

[viral crag]

Okay, oddly specific question but hoping somebody else knows.

Besides Chaotic Freeze specifically, are there any skills/items/interactions between chaos and frost?

Don't care if they're good or not, just care if they exist.

[median kraken]

You could use Plaguefinger to poison with cold damage (or any other element)

[viral crag]

Forgot this one, and definitely counts as the kind of thing I'm interested in. Thanks for pointing it out 👍

[true sparrow]

If you do a 4 trial sek, but die at 3, does it give you the 3rd tier asc points?

[viral crag]

Haven't tried that, but pretty sure clicking the board is what gets you the points.

[trim crag]

Is having Grim Feast and Ghost dance worth using a socketed ring for the slot? I lose supports like Vitality and Clarity but get a Cast on skill... we need pob2 😦

[median kraken]

PoB2 is supposed to come any day now, I think, although Grim Feast and Ghost dance are both a little tricky to evaluate directly

Since their effect varies depending on the circumstances

[static plinth]

Beyond Reach quiver

Lets your chaos Freeze+Electrocute

[viral crag]

Oh that's cute lol

[static plinth]

Im hoping we get decent chaos bow skills to use it with

[hot rapids]

How does % increase attack speed work with hits per second? because its not exactly the same

[static plinth]

Or Cultist Bow gets buffed

[viral crag]

Appreciate the callout, good find 👍

[clear sluice]

Having a 2nd shockwave totem didn't help with clear or blowing up screens. honestly

Where in totems is the splodes synergy

[polar anvil]

Would going from a 300 dps weapon to a 400 dps weapon be a huge change?

[clear sluice]

Totems? No

And my gem level is 39

[static plinth]

Is there any way to convert damage to chaos besides OSin?

[static plinth]

25% more damage

Probably pretty huge

Might be better changes like an extra support, though

Depends on how much that's costing you

[clear sluice]

Or both

[viral crag]

It's all relative. If you were doing 1mil dps, you probably don't notice the difference.
If you were doing 400? Absolutely 👍

Focus less on how "big" it is, and more on just finding the best upgrades for you specifically 🙂

[clear sluice]

If it's a crossbow yes

[static plinth]

Even if you dealt 1mil dps, that dps is based off the weapon you were using

[polar anvil]

Well right now my crossbow is 300 dps, I was wondering if 15 exalts is worth it for 100 more dps

[clear sluice]

2h mace, yes.

[polar anvil]

Also not even close to hitting 1 mil, not even 20k 🤣

[viral crag]

I mean, I'm not noticing it on my wand.
On their crossbow sure 😅

[polar anvil]

The game doesn't show the skill dps on consoles

[static plinth]

Your wand doesn't have dps, so

[polar anvil]

My main crossbow skill shows 5k dps

Level 78

[viral crag]

I just assumed we got to the end of the scaling tunnel when we started this question, otherwise have no frame of reference.

[polar anvil]

Basic xbow skill

[viral crag]

Sure it does. It has an ability it came with that I rarely use 😉

[static plinth]

Is there anything funny you can do with Splinterheart rn? Since it's the only source of Split

Ig it doesnt do much that Fork wouldnt

[clear sluice]

How can I interact with totem kills without the gloves?

[viral crag]

Spells have projectiles, I guess?

Try and get some funny interactions going with Snakepit maybe?

Like normally my immediate idea would be scourge arrow but we don't have that yet.

Like conference call but with poisonous barbs.

[static plinth]

Yeah it'd be anything that has forced pierce or cant fork

Dont have much fitting that rn i dont think

[polar anvil]

Know what, I don't have trouble killing mobs

When I die it's always to some bs

I will just stick to my xbow for now and see what RNG blesses me

[clear sluice]

You should clear campaign with dodge 🙂

[viral crag]

Careful with that, because the next upgrade if your damage is fine and your defenses are fine... is a skill upgrade 😉

[thin basin]

these bow boys out here using basic atatck to clear

[polar anvil]

Oh absolutely

[clear sluice]

What build are you fort?

[viral crag]

Million dollar attitude there ❤️

[polar anvil]

Even on maps sometimes mobs die with Wind Dancer

[polar anvil]

Witchhunter Exploding Shot

[clear sluice]

I was hemming exploding shot

Gemling

[polar anvil]

It's really fun, like Helldivers 1

[clear sluice]

Yes or Ascent 🙂

[polar anvil]

Ah I chose Witchhunter because it sounded cooler

[viral crag]

I love your build already.

[clear sluice]

Definitely got the 4 points into blow up stuff

[polar anvil]

Clears maps easily, though Herald kinda wasted

[clear sluice]

I never got to do exploding shot on level 20 gem with 5 support

[polar anvil]

I got Ash, Ice, Thunder and Shard Scav on

Only Ash and Shard procs

[viral crag]

Like the #1 justification I have for fire wall being in my build is that my chaos projectiles look cool when they fly through it.

[polar anvil]

That is the dream, mine is on 4 slots

[clear sluice]

But my boss damage was poor with 400 DPS xbow and 19 gem

[polar anvil]

Do I dare Vaal it?

[clear sluice]

No point

[polar anvil]

From 4 it cannot go 5?

Can 5 go 6?

[clear sluice]

Look for the 20 skill, 5 socket, uncorrupted.

[frosty arrow]

huh, corpsewade has a cool side effect. It can prevent those fat giants from blowing up when they die if it consumes their corpse during their bloat animation

[clear sluice]

5 max

[polar anvil]

Oh they're for sale? Good point

[clear sluice]

I got my shockwave totem for 4 d

[celest oxide]

What’s the best xbow build rn?

[polar anvil]

I bet they cost like 1 Div which I haven't ever seen drop in more than a hundred hours of playing

[polar anvil]

Galvanic I think is the number 1?

I just got tired of lightning this, lightning that

[celest oxide]

Stat stacking?

[clear sluice]

Uncut gem + perfect jeweler ~ 3-5d

[polar anvil]

My ranger already does lightning

[polar anvil]

Don't Gemlings use quarterstaff?

[celest oxide]

Yeah I get that

I did Gas Arrow on my Deadeye

[celest oxide]

Yeah but I wanna use a Crossbow lol

[polar anvil]

I only have 1 d and it's in IRL and not in-game

[clear sluice]

Heck no I changed from crossbow to dual wield 2h maces

Quarterstaff stacker is boring

[polar anvil]

What's your stat distrib? I can't afford to do that unless an Astramentis drops from the sky

[clear sluice]

Quarterstacker with cheese

[polar anvil]

Gemling still then lol

[quartz comet]

Are there any support or spirit gems other than clarity that help mana regen?

[clear sluice]

900 str. Don't care about the other 🙂

[polar anvil]

Mine is more Dex, then STR, then a bit of INT but I am not a Gemling

[celest oxide]

Yeah I figured Gemling + Howa delivery system but with xbow instead

[clear sluice]

I just put totem and press dodge

[polar anvil]

How??? Only one of my stats is 100+ and I'm almost level 80 lol

[viral crag]

Welcome to gemling, friend lol

[sleek prawn]

This is the build I'm working on. It's SSF. Anyone wanna take a gander see if there's some ideas for optimization? Sorceror Frostwall Archmage build. https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/184b85b4-10cd-4ee0-b6d9-ab474ce05d07/builds/bf295df6-7417-49da-b6b0-32bbfcbeb323

[polar anvil]

Gemling will always pop off, I wonder how GGG will balance it

[clear sluice]

30 str on every gear

Some 50

[celest oxide]

Apparently Galv Shards stacker doesn’t even want phys damage or flat phys on xbow so that sounds cheap lol at least for the weap

I already have HOWA anyways

[clear sluice]

Str on tree 🙂

[clear sluice]

By adding more stuff to stack!

But I want to find a way to interact with my totem kills so I can use whatever to blow stuff up

Without interfering in main link

[waxen jewel]

Are there any other More skill speed (any) multipliers than Arcane Surge and dance with Dead?

[viral crag]

Just as a point of clarification, do you have any "Increased" modifiers yet?

[clear sluice]

Does arcane do skill speed even?

[waxen jewel]

That's not what I'm asking I know the difference

[viral crag]

Okay, won't bother explaining the point I was trying to make then 😒

[waxen jewel]

It gives 10% More cast speed and 20% More mana regeneration. It can also be scaled from passive/stormweaver ascendancy

[waxen jewel]

Sorry... I didn't mean to come as rude. Let's assume I have 175% increased cast speed

[clear sluice]

Right. So skill speed should be beneficial where the cast is animated I believe

[viral crag]

The reason I asked is because if you had not taken any source of increase yet, if I'm remembering my math right then you can take one and it would math out the same as a "more" modifier.

Sounds like you're set there, so no need 👍

[clear sluice]

They want to go brrrr

[waxen jewel]

Skill speed is just an umbrella term for all different "speeds". So X% Increased Skill Speed = X% Inc Warcry Speed and X% Inc Attack Speed and X% Inc Cast Speed, Trap placement, Totem placemnt (you get the idea)

I wan't to blink fast without temporalis

[clear sluice]

Yes it's for the animation rate afaik 🙂

[thin basin]

how does one calc "more" crit chance

[viral crag]

But yeah, only thing I've found is a pathfinder node tbh Nope, increased.

[waxen jewel]

That may be true, but the in-game tooltips and skill descriptions show skill speed just as a more general cast speed (it's additive with cast speed)

[viral crag]

Seems like slim pickings.

Not even that actually lol

[waxen jewel]

I was interested in multiplicative (More) cast speed sources (or any other skill speed type)

[frosty arrow]

skill speed will increase both attack and cast speed

[waxen jewel]

...

[frosty arrow]

or I suppose more generally attack speed of skills, not just spells

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, but it's not a separate multiplier so it suffers from diminished returns when combined with attack/cast speed

[clear sluice]

Ur probably right.

[frosty arrow]

are there any other multipliers that are added separately beyond base attack/cast speed x %multipliers?

[waxen jewel]

180% inc cast speed + 20% inc skill speed means the +20% inc skill speed was effectively only 9% increase to final cast time

[waxen jewel]

Every multilier in the game that uses the keyword More or Less is multiplicative

[clear sluice]

Did you get increased effect of arcane surge yet?

[waxen jewel]

It's a key distinction in the game

[frosty arrow]

sure, I'm talking specifically about cast speed

[waxen jewel]

I'm simply theorycrafting, but yeah, I did mention the passive nodes and chronomancer

[clear sluice]

I can't read everything I'm a mellee

[waxen jewel]

But I also found another one: Ferocity supprot gem

[waxen jewel]

No worries, noone does

https://poe2db.tw/Ferocity

[clear sluice]

Skill speed again

Its action speed right? From poe1

But new rigs so new anim lib

[waxen jewel]

Nope, it's not action speed

It's very obvious and I have tested it

[clear sluice]

fwiw attack speed does not scale damage on slams

[waxen jewel]

Because there are +3% skill speed small nodes and +10% notables lying around the hunter area

[clear sluice]

But skill speed does

But not in tooltip

[waxen jewel]

That's an interesting one!

[clear sluice]

Why I think of it as animation play rate

[waxen jewel]

Or could that be a result of some slams having +0.X secs additional attack time?

Action speed is still separate in the game. Just get chilled by an enemy and it becomes very obvious

[clear sluice]

Actually I might misremember, skill speed does affect the same type of speed values on the skill. Just not damage.

But we can slam more often

Or more responsive

Anyway if we can get skill speed to be at play rate 1.0 we can probably get that to 2.0.

Assuming it's animation rate:)

Independently of the attack/cast speed benefits

[young hinge]

Hey if I have 6 max stages, the initial slam will gain 120% more dmg , then each aftershock will take that dmg and increase by 120% again correct?

[waxen jewel]

Anyways, the in-game tooltip says Skill Speed stacks additively with other kinds of Speeds so if there's some case where it doesn't, that should be bug reported

[clear sluice]

How does temporalis interact with it?

[waxen jewel]

Okay that's a channeling spell. I have no idea how channeling stuff interacts with attack speed except that shield dash does move faster with more attack speed

[clear sluice]

I need a computer

[waxen jewel]

Skill Speed is not animation rate

[clear sluice]

Ok I work with assumptions i trust you

[waxen jewel]

It's a shorthand
x% increased Skill Speed =

• x% increasd Attack Speed +
• x% increasd Cast Speed +
• x% increasd Warcry Speed +
• x% increasd Trap Placement Speed +
• x% increasd Totem Placement Speed

[clear sluice]

What did action speed do in poe1?

[waxen jewel]

Increase rate of animations so it stacked multilicatively with attack speed

[clear sluice]

Hehe

[waxen jewel]

And also other stuff like stun recovery (or anything that can happen in the game pretty much I guess)

Action speed is still in PoE2 and it seems to work the same. It's obvious when chilled

Sadly Tailwind only gives skill speed now :(

[clear sluice]

Aaah yeh I get it now

Does armour weight penalty interact here?

[stable crag]

so im pretty new at the game ill say im lvl 12 this the first game i every played like this

i have a sorcery n ive been putting alot of skills into my fire and ice passive abilities, should i just hard focus one element for biggest dps or do i keep combining?

[clear sluice]

Just keep testing stuff. Expand what is fun to play. What works in act 1 might be bad for act2. Your hurdles are problems to solve when you get to them 🙂

[waxen jewel]

There is no problem combining elements. It happens accidentally by your gear giving you modifiers like: "Adds + 1 to 11 Lightning Damage"

There are many benifits for mixing elemental types too. You access ailments like shock and unlock new ways to scale your build by support gems

Like innervate

And shock makes enemies take 20% increased damage

[stable crag]

@clear sluice @waxen jewel thank you to the both as im tryna learn this game its very fun ill take what yall said into consideration

[stable crag]

mmmmmmmmm say that

[viral crag]

Unless you're pushing the end of the game, as long as you're using some spell that do damage you'll be doing well 👍

I've yet to wander into a build that was completely unviable for an average playthrough.

[stable crag]

thank ya sounds good

[waxen jewel]

The biggest tip I'd give you is: Look for new weapons upgrades constantly (rings/gloves too) for those added damage affixes. With wands you also got the "Adds +x% <element> damage" affixes

Use your alteration and augment orbs on normal items

[stable crag]

is there a way for me to tell like im not saying ur wrong but how do you know the exact numbers of incresed damage they take with shock does it say somewhere?

[viral crag]

Are you on PC by chance?

[waxen jewel]

You basically have infinite amount of those currencies from like act 2 onwards

[stable crag]

yes

[viral crag]

One of the coolest things we have on PC is the "alt" key (inspect)

[waxen jewel]

It says in the tooltip of shock.

[viral crag]

Which not only tells you about equipment, but skills, and even keywords just by mousing over them.

[stable crag]

so i had some lvl 3 boots that had 100% shield recharge and 20% shield delay should i switch them out im lvl 12 rn but i just thought it was good stats for shield regen

[waxen jewel]

Hold alt and hover your mouse over the underlined word Shock

This applies to any keyword you want info on. PoE2 is very good on giving you that info in-game

[stable crag]

this might sound stupid but, where would i find shock underlined?

[waxen jewel]

I wouldn't worry too long at this point about gear changes, but you just have to compare stats of the previous item you had

I mean I wouldn't get too attached to any gear piece

Ohh and also look the shops for items!! They are very very good

They reset their supply each time you level up

[stable crag]

oh bettt

[waxen jewel]

Except gamble, which sucks early

But yeah, upgrading the weapon slots is the most important thing

[viral crag]

You know, not a stupid question at all 😅
So far anywhere a new player would find shock it's more than 1 tooltip deep (so you can't just mouse over it) lol

[waxen jewel]

Once you hover with alt held, left click to "freeze" a tool tip so you can navigate further into the nested tooltips

[stable crag]

bet ill look into it

[waxen jewel]

You can even pin the tooltip to stay visible automatically by clicking on the pin icon on top right corner of the infobox

[viral crag]

Now it's time for all the tooltips lol

[waxen jewel]

Funniest thing is when you loop around and re-read the one you started with

[viral crag]

New thing once I'm done with this build: Find the longest tooltip chain.

[still rock]

Doesnt seem like accuracy is required for nades at all

thats nice

[viral crag]

That is the point of a grenade, after all ||/s||

[still rock]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-will-ferrell-steve-carell-grenade-gif-3438949

me

[viral crag]

Oh.

I'm just realize that Drain Ailments isn't as terrible/counter-synergistic as I thought.

[still rock]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/pn2670z7 cleaned it up some, working good, need to try a boss

[viral crag]

Absolute pain to trigger it though.

[still rock]

its great with DE for the support being on ED

because it just poison again

fairly quickly

[static spade]

Is it nessesary or recommended to wear Unique body armor on end game in Majority of builds?

[viral crag]

Here's the thing though, we've kind of made poison a more central part of this build.

I don't want it yoinking my big Hexblast poison to boost a little effigy projectile.

[young hinge]

So gemling can get hand of chayula with 980-1818 flat chaos dmg .. that's before %503 dmg effectiveness

[viral crag]

Wait, effigy can't use it though right?

[still rock]

yeah but even without envenom (I ran my chao dot build with 24% poison from tree) it was up pretty quickly

no its for ED

[viral crag]

Oh, I see what you're getting at. ED consuming the poison to boost itself.

Interesting.

I might give it a go, my ED damage isn't a huge part of the build but most of the time I'm not going to lose a big poison to this.

Going to take a random ignite, freeze, or effigy poison.

[thin basin]

thoughts, did some redo

[still rock]

mostly useful for single target

[viral crag]

I imagined so, and I'm liking where this is going now that I think about it. Odds are if they're hexblast poisoned I have time to stand around and cast better stuff than ED

This should work around well.

[sudden imp]

what supports to put in bell, heralds, storm wave and flicker strike on invoker? i cant clear breaches relialy mostly because i have no idea what supports to put on. also i only have 3 slots for all my gems

if someone can lmk id appreciate it

[waxen jewel]

Can you use reduced duration support with Grenade skills?

[arctic pond]

Are there any other effects which behave like the Ruthless Support Gem - that is doing X after Y amount of times a skill is used?

[viral crag]

To be clear, I imagine the easy answer of "cast on <x>" isn't what you're looking for.

More things that are directly tied to number of casts.

[arctic pond]

Not cast on... Like every fifth attack does more damage.. or something similar.

[clear sluice]

Fast forward?

Iirc it works on duration timers like nades

[astral badger]

does call of the brotherhood convert 'gain X% of damage as extra lightning damage' to cold damage?

[viral crag]

Short answer: No.
Long answer: https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1321237459987726366

[astral badger]

Thanks I'll read up

[autumn wind]

is there a support gemt hat makes enemies do less damage

that i could put on my gas grenade

[viral crag]

Support gem? Not that I know of.
Skill gems? Yes, at least one for sure.

Oh, that's an interesting question.

That sounds like something that should exist.

[autumn wind]

i was thinking it oculd make a like debuff area

[viral crag]

Either as a passive or a support lol

[autumn wind]

i was also considering if maybe cold would be worth it with the gas grenade to liek freez ein an aoe

[young hinge]

Hey if I have 115% inc poison magnitude, 75% more poison magnitude and 60% inc effect if poison. What's the result poison

My quick math gives 120% hit dmg per sec poison,

[viral crag]

Gas grenade an attack or a spell?

[waxen jewel]

I don't know any. I do know some ways to have increased damage boosts periodically though (for that it would help to know what are you building)

[arctic pond]

I'm just looking for more sources of flat damage additions really. I'm building an Attack Speed focused deadeye. Currently at 9 attacks per second.

[waxen jewel]

Are you already using ferocity support for 40% more skill speed somehow?

Cast on stun?

Ohh nvm such thing doesn't exist. It's cast on you get stunned

[mellow ferry]

is reduced attack speed / cast time a positive or a negative trait? do i want this number higher or lower?

not sure on the english they meant, is it time to cast or speed of casting?

[arctic pond]

I mean, I could run cast on crit. I have a 20% crit chance at 9 attacks per second. I'm just not sure what to cast and I don't have the spirit right now since i'm using it for defensive stuff like Grim Feast

[clear sluice]

Slow, pin, blind, temporal chains, enfeeble, freeze, electrocute, time stop, stun

Not all supports but reducing damage can also be an indirect consequence

[viral crag]

Short answer: If you want to attack faster, you want less reduction (lower)

For Kitoko, I assume, it's a drawback that you want to minimize.

[astral badger]

what does improving the quality of a wand do?

[mellow ferry]

👍 thanks so much, not sure if they were saying "reduces time it takes TO cast" or not haha

and yes for kitoko hahaha

[viral crag]

Improves its inherent stat.

[autumn wind]

i keep getting one shot idk if that means its like time to cbange my build or try to pump damage or get some better armor

its by a boss in the 3rd act

[waxen jewel]

It's a negative trait. I think PoE2 has worded this (often confusing in games) concept well. It's the time of the cast that gets reduced, not the speed.

[viral crag]

Didn't want to say it, but yeah. Trust PoE when it comes to wording. They're pretty reliable imo

[waxen jewel]

Just when I applaud the good wording I mix them up once again

I mean the opposite

Obviously reduced cast time is good thing. Then you can cast things more often

But reduced [whatever] speed isn't

[atomic halo]

it's good until it isnt

[mellow ferry]

i read it as "alright, this REDUCES your speed so its bad," but ive had so many bad interactions in other games im stilll sitting here anxious x) haha

tyty!

[viral crag]

Oh yeah, completely fair to ask. This is one that flips from game to game lol

[plain meteor]

Hello all!
For incinerate, will adding cast speed increase my dps? Or will it only increase the speed at which ill hit stage 8?

[waxen jewel]

Yeah and the million ways games want to modify cooldowns...

Any stat with time in it get's really confusing to read

[neat bison]

Adds quality to the implicit skill

[waxen jewel]

1. Always look through the shops in town for equipment (they have way more gear than your average area)
2. Keep a stack of Transmute and Augment orbs always in your inventory and craft normal + magic items on the fly
3. Get resistance rings and ditch that item level 8 Iron Ring
4. Salvage item's with socket's and quality and add sockets + runes to your best gear pieces

[autumn wind]

ive been trying to save some stuff let me get a pic one sec @waxen jewel

[waxen jewel]

Also don't be afraid to use a magic item with 1 good modifier over a rare with 6 bad ones

[clear sluice]

Does anyone know how I could use kills by my totems to create chain reactions? Without gravebind

[autumn wind]

took the wrong tab

[waxen jewel]

Only things I can think of: By using the overkill damage or Herald of Ice or the tier 3 supports that spread ailments

[viral crag]

Only cute thing I've got (can't look up names as I'm out doing stuff) is to give them poison and the support that makes kills on poisoned enemies explode

[midnight bolt]

Whats base hp on lvl 100

[viral crag]

Want to say like 1200 or so?

[waxen jewel]

Is quality a separate modifier in a gem? I ask this for cases where there's like +30% more lightning damage in the gem itself and then quality adds +0-10% more lightning damage. It's either 40% more or 1.3 * 1.1 = 1.43 = 43% more and I need to minmax this lol

[viral crag]

For hybrid ES/Eva, are main slots usually dedicated to one or hybrid pieces?

[plain meteor]

Hello all!
If i were to curse an enemy with Flamability, will this stack with exposure from incinerate?

[viral crag]

Flammability does not apply exposure, as far as I know.

If you're just asking if they work together, yes. As long as you aren't applying two instances of the same Exposure (like specifically Fire Exposure) they do not conflict 👍

[plain meteor]

awesome! I thought they would stack 🙂
Was looking for filler skills and this would benefit me nicely!

[clear sluice]

hmmmmm

[tropic pelican]

How does magnitude work with freeze?

[waxen jewel]

@plain meteor The logic here is that Flammability applies a debuff called Flammability and Incinirate applies a debuff called Fire Exposure. Because those are separate debuffs they can stack. However, if you have multiple debuffs that do the same, only the strongest one applies (you can't just spam curse to put enemies resistances to -10000%)

[plain meteor]

yeh, strongest applied exposure applies + the flat -resist from the curse yeh?

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, this is very apparent if you have different sources of shock with different magnitudes against bosses. The little debuff icons under the enemy hp bar first show a low magnitude (like 24% for me) while I'm using my ability, but after I apply the shock mark, soon the icon will say 31% because the mark increased shock magnitude and a new stronger one overwrote the previous 24% shock.

[viral crag]

This is very un-apparent with wither*, sadly lol

[waxen jewel]

There are expections to this though, but they are always stated AFAIK. Stormweaver has a ascendancy node that let's you have 2 shock effects simultaneously

[waxen jewel]

Ohh, I guess it only shows the number of stacks?

[viral crag]

It shows the total percentage that you're getting from all of the debuffs combined.

[waxen jewel]

ohhh right lol

[viral crag]

Which honestly is what you really wanted to know probably, so good design on their part.

[waxen jewel]

Yeah true

[viral crag]

Just a lot of new witches that believe that they can just apply one stack every once in a while to "maintain wither"

[waxen jewel]

I wish there was a trainin dummy

[viral crag]

Easiest mtx they've ever made. Wish it were free, but I would buy it in a heartbeat and I know it.

Drop that thing in my hideout and call it a day.

[waxen jewel]

I wanna test whether Barrage works with "Strip Away" (it is socketable at least)

[thin basin]

ring1: 100cc 100cd
ring2: 100 life, 100 cold res, 43 fire res, 43 lighning res, except it looks like 19% all res and 53% cold res before ingenuity

[waxen jewel]

Wrong channel?

[thin basin]

no its build planning

im planning my build

its so hard to try and fit these catalysm ring in the build when im also trying to fit other uniques in

[still rock]

ok soul tether kinda slaps

found a way to incorporate it

for ar/es

[viral crag]

@still rock Glad we talked about that support btw, loving the ED damage now.

Now I just have to find something cute to do with Unearth and we're set lol

[still rock]

yeah it feels almost necessary to crank out every little bit of dmg with ED

can you put infernal legion on it

and just have them burn shit

and then meat shield

if you really want to cast it you might as well

[viral crag]

Thought about it because it's funny, but yeah. Really like them as a meat shield primarily.

That and cleaning up bodies before they do explosive things.

So, yeah. When people go for hybrid ES/Evasion are main slots normally pure pieces?

Or do the hybrid pieces tend to be best?

Never actually picked gear slots for my own build before 🤔

[thorny token]

hybrid chest, pure ES helmet

[viral crag]

Appreciate it

[hot rapids]

is 30 mvmt speed on boots the max you can augment your mvmt speed as monk? (apart from passive tree nodes / skills)

[still rock]

35

and theres a 5% vaal implicit

[hot rapids]

ah right yes

but you cant get mvmt spd elsewhere right (in a reasonable monk build)

[still rock]

theres some on tree

[hot rapids]

tbh is 25 vs 35 mvmt speed that significant?

[still rock]

to me it is lol

especially on some of these maps

and no movement ability spam

[young hinge]

Whats the max combo points for culmination supp

[grand gorge]

if i have my shield in this slot like this

do i still get the buffs of the shielf?

[viral crag]

Not unless you switch weapons.

To be holding the shield.

[grand gorge]

kk

[left ledge]

Are we doing extra damage vs nearby monsters or extra damage vs far way monsters?

[upbeat ivy]

How much does a build that can do t15 breaches cost?? Witch infernalist - currently doing t12 breaches can do up to t14

[hot rapids]

what is reasonable es to aim for in order to get up to T15 maps? would 2k be enough?

[quiet steppe]

60k dps t15 breach i think is good but if its too juiced you probably gonna need more, on es i think you should go grim feast

[ocean depot]

20exalt or less for a pconc pathfinder

[ornate eagle]

If you’re CI, 2K es is a bit low. You might get one shot.

[hot rapids]

sorry, what is CI?

[ocean depot]

chaos innoc

[hot rapids]

oh right got it

im ice strike monk

[ocean depot]

2k is fine for t15 if you have max resist+grim feast,but about 1 in 10maps u will die

4k with grim feast is recommended for t15 for comfy runs

[hot rapids]

i have enough dps right now and resists are almost capped but dying even in T10 maps right now

[snow sierra]

Allmost capped...lol i wouldnt go into maps without it beeing capped at this stage of the game 😉

[hot rapids]

how do you even reach 4k? 300 from helm, 300 from body, 100 from boots + gloves then the rest are just multiplier nodes?

[ornate eagle]

The more close you’re to res cap, the more effective that few missing res are

[hot rapids]

is missing even 5% a big deal?

[worthy echo]

i have 492 str and 38 dex and giants blood. this two handed mace requires 422 str and 34 dex. I have emptied my equip slot however it will not let me equip the weapon. why?

[hot rapids]

oh wow

[snow sierra]

yes

even 1% is a big deal

ppl pay divs to get 1% more max res

[ornate eagle]

That’s why those +1% max res are effective even with such a small number

[lyric solstice]

At 74% res you'll be taking double damage, at 73% triple damage and so on

[hot rapids]

how important is evasion then? what would be a decent amount? currently at 78%

[ocean depot]

mostly from nodes once you are done with the base from eq

[ornate eagle]

78% is fine

[ornate eagle]

Aim for a dex int body that gives you 400+ es. Gloves and boots that give 200+ es.

Then take those hybrid evasion+es nodes on the tree

If your gear is good, you can get 7k+ ES

[hot rapids]

i pre much have rarity on all my gear, should I drop them for defence in order to be able to do higher tier maps?

[ornate eagle]

I’m not sure about the trade off between rarity and map tiers

[snow sierra]

tdlr is not worth it

if you dont juice your maps with rarity and quant and do t15/16 breach rarity wont help you make money

i wouldnt leave the house with <100% but not beeing able to do proper content is not worth it

[hot rapids]

just for context i have 118 rarity on gear, but my survivability is not great with only 443 ES. My DPS is ok I think. Currently just farming T8-10 maps for safety so I dont die and lose juiced maps

but i guess i should keep farming tiers i can comfortably do until i can afford full upgrades instead of sacrificing rarity for survivability for higher tier maps

[snow sierra]

not rly, i would say make your character playable and strong frist rarity comes later

i can do 100ex or more per hour on 0% rarity on a strong character, and you play premium for rarity

if you are not res capped your are defenitly not at a stage where you should think about getting alot of rarity

[hot rapids]

ok makes sense ty!

btw, chaos should be capped asw right?

[snow sierra]

No ? you have CI as i understood it

[hot rapids]

no i have ice strike monk sorry

[snow sierra]

Did you specc into chaos inoculation

[hot rapids]

no

[snow sierra]

then chaos res needs cap too yes

[pearl sluice]

Nischana you play ice strike?

Is it hard to start with?

Im thinking of making that as well!

[snow sierra]

No i just know the basic ofs the game like capping res, how to make money, and in poe2 you kinda need chaos res capped on your way to t15^^

If we would ask about improving dps i could help

[pearl sluice]

100ex per hour

is pretty crazy

ol

lol

[snow sierra]

no its kinda shit

[pearl sluice]

but then i guess it makes sense on t15 maps?

[snow sierra]

just basic ultimatum farm

[pearl sluice]

im still on t4maps

well t3...working my way throuhg the atlas

t3 9/10

[snow sierra]

Well i helped a guy yesterday he just started mapping on his 62 char he can now do t14 it seems^^

[pearl sluice]

What

Loool

[snow sierra]

But i am the minion guy, i can do detonate death and minions that it for now

[pearl sluice]

I'm lvl 74...

Light arrow dood

[snow sierra]

we did spend like 30-40ex tho

[pearl sluice]

I goy 2 divs..

2 divs lol

[ocean depot]

u dont need chaos res cap if you dont mind dying or taking abit of time to sort thru maps but i rather just build CI currently and spare myself that trouble

[pearl sluice]

Cl?

[ocean depot]

i think even at 10% chaos res i was doing fine with 1.3k hp

[snow sierra]

i think whatever build you are following if you cant do t16 when you are like 80-85 and spend at max 50ex the build is bad

[pearl sluice]

Hmm

Maybe I should try pushing harder lool

I'm on fubguns lighting arrow build

[ocean depot]

lightarrow will be a struggle till ltr on once u spend a few divs in it

[hot rapids]

i spent my only div on a quarterstaff lol

[snow sierra]

isnt he the guy that allways runs super expensive builds that look fancy on youtube ?

[ocean depot]

i forgot if u r doing widow+quiver or bow+4

[still rock]

bruh the same grenades share cooldowns, why

poop

[sudden crown]

anyone tested conduction - 100% more shock chance and dmg gems ? is it better to get that conduction gem or just increase the dmg bcs higher hit higher chance but does it overrule that conduction support for example primal armament ?

[pearl sluice]

Windows quiver?

Widow

[ocean depot]

widowhail iirc

den quiver +2,40%+dmg with bow,20% critchance

[pearl sluice]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/lightning-arrow-farmer-fubgun

this is the one im going for

[ocean depot]

oh ur farming gona be abit shag

[pearl sluice]

shit?

[ocean depot]

tiring,lightarrow+rod is kinda tiring to farm with

[pearl sluice]

fubguns builds are extremally well optimized

pretty sure that guide has a progression for you to follow also

[snow sierra]

i dont doubt that, for the purpose he want do use them

not sure if that purpose is causal gamer builds

[pearl sluice]

the setup is for farming things like breach and most of the setups have an acceptable margin of safety to them

[ocean depot]

ranger progression is one of the worst tbh,but it does shine ltr on in bossing

[pearl sluice]

ranger progression is pretty good u nuke things the entire game

what is ltr?

unless u just build horribly

[ocean depot]

progressing through story with just lightningarrow+rod was painful

[pearl sluice]

i was pretty mch 1 shotting things

through the story

the only learning curve is early on when ur kitting and ur evasion is kind of low sometimes mobs will hit you and that deletes you out of nowhere

[snow sierra]

but well like i said i dont know him or his builds, i just allways warry of "online builds" and the only context i ever heart him was that he is a creazy currency farmer

[pearl sluice]

other than that rangers damage is pretty good

[ocean depot]

his builds are fine actually,its the one of the best progression guide for ranger

[pearl sluice]

fubguns not a bait content creator

the guy makes really solid builds

[ocean depot]

when u prog with other chars that are not melee,u will see the diff

[pearl sluice]

ranger isnt melee

its aoe lightning nuke

[ocean depot]

its a singular direction nuke yes

[pearl sluice]

it chains all the way off ur screen

lol

hardly one direction

anywhere theres mobs

the only thing even comparable is spark telestomp sorcerer

[pearl sluice]

i was thinking of going monk invoker ice strike(?)

that seemed fun too

but thats ntoe xactly melee

pretty solid build

[pearl sluice]

yah i love it lool

its been hella fun

benefit of it probably isnt next on the chopping also

sorcerer def has its neck in the going to be nerfed noose

[snow sierra]

ye my bet is conversion items and grim feast get gutted

[ocean depot]

its not too bad tbh

[open marten]

hey, could anybody spare a level 8 spirit gem?👉🏽👈🏽

[pearl sluice]

tbh i hope grim feast doesnt get nerfed into the ground one of infernalists only selling points for endgame content is that its really really hard to die

any survivabilty nerfs to its kit would suck

cause its clear is meme tier due to minion ai

[snow sierra]

i 100% bet it will get nerfed it would be so strange its just insanley strong

[pearl sluice]

yeah i just dont want to see it become useless

[snow sierra]

its the nerf i kinda most sure of that it will happen

[pearl sluice]

spark nerf incoming for sure theres no way were going to let like a 1 div kit nuke t4 pinnacles in 5 seconds

[snow sierra]

not so sure about that

Archemage sure, but spark itself maybe not

[pearl sluice]

ye i mean spark mage not the actual spell

somethings going to get reworked the dmg is insane even in pretty cheap gear

going from witch to that is ridiculous lol

[snow sierra]

not rly

boss dmg on spark is kinda mid

unless you pay insane amounts

[ocean depot]

meanwhile infinite thunderbolt

😥

[pearl sluice]

https://streamable.com/woq6io

rip it expired ig

[near timber]

how can i see its active effect?

[sterile stone]

bugged, it does nothing

[lime narwhal]

what yall reckon will get more mileage in a boss swap for monk:

Currently unset ring swapping for HoC with conduction, hyothermia and freezing mark

Or a CoS vibe with eye of winter/ some other cast

[serene isle]

how this guy able to equip "morior invictus" on warrior with the dex and int req? https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/hammer-ignite-titan-connor-converse

his gear dont have enough int and dex

[thorny token]

well you just get those stats on gear

also xophs blood is just bait item pretty much

[serene isle]

I see a lot of warrior build with that armor it's that good?

[thorny token]

dont think you wanna ever use it

[serene isle]

you have only 500 armor on it while rare armor have 2k+

[thorny token]

yes, it gives a lot of life

and armour is worthless

together

[serene isle]

worthless as in 20% armour vs 75% armour is the same basically?

[thorny token]

well the tooltip is 1. pretty fake and doesnt show real pdr

2. yes it doesnt rly do that much

yes

[serene isle]

damn so if I want to use that unique armor I also need to buy dex and int items left and right

[thorny token]

having 35% inc life from chest will give you way more defense than armour chest will ever will

[serene isle]

I looted 1 div yesterday it wont be enough

[thorny token]

its like 1 affix for each

its only 51 int and 51 dex

also this isnt even the best hammer build btw there are much better ones

[serene isle]

ah?

[thorny token]

this one is just with very limited info

[serene isle]

have some link?

[thorny token]

that wasnt updated much

[serene isle]

I'm starting to get frutrated at my warrior, lvl 89 can't even ascend4 solo

bonneshatter for trash, not stampede btw

[wooden iris]

hey guys - got a question about experience

if i'm underleveled in relation to the area level, do I get bonus xp? If so, is there a limit? EX: xp bonus caps out at a 7 level difference, etc

thanks 🙂

[serene isle]

I meann boneshatter+slam clears map good.. but bosses fuck me up

[coarse shale]

What's the real price of jewels with Meta Skills gain ##% increased Energy? I see a bunch listed for ~5ex but not a single person replies.

[thorny token]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/n2j20b6q

splash mace

very broken

[serene isle]

ah thx I've seen this one but even less infos, and in russian :

[thorny token]

its still not the best setup for that imo but its close

but you absically just scale aoe for the mace implicit

otherwise its pretty simple

[serene isle]

I guess I can try

respec gonnabe costy

[thorny token]

and crushing impacts is so you can insta stun armour break, but even without the armour break stuff it works fine

[serene isle]

I leveled up with this and didnt change once reaching endgame https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/boneshatter-titan-leveling-guide

the passive tree is so different

start at 2div for +10% hp https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/Wrg6jQ0Tm

[thorny token]

i have fairly simple tree for that setup

the aoe one

its still slightly different from yours but closer

[serene isle]

yeah I feel boneshatter+herald of fire+leap slam feels strong when cleaning

though you're very fragile

one mistep and dead

[thorny token]

yea the splash mace has like 4 times better clear

than boneshatter

[golden violet]

which build would you recommend for medium experienced player to try out ssfhc?

[serene isle]

damn

[thorny token]

so its just stronger while doing same stuff really

like it already clears half the screen in acts

[serene isle]

but boneshatter already clears whole t15 screen in one proc tho?

sometimes it even kill a rare outright

if enough mobs

[thorny token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB4pZnyU6-s well this is what the splash mace does

you can compare to yours

[serene isle]

wtf the blink

[thorny token]

yea ignore the blink

[serene isle]

ok there no comparison indeed

[thorny token]

thats just temporalis

just focus on aoe :d

dont think boneshatter gets close

[serene isle]

yeah I guess it's must faster because boneshatter need slam setup or mace attack

so two actions innstead of what I see here

so your video is the russian build you linked?

[thorny token]

yea

[serene isle]

aight gonna try

is there one item I should absolutely get?

[still rock]

fuck do i need temporalis just for the blink

[thorny token]

just splash mace

rest is whatever

[serene isle]

shit I bought this 1div yesterdat

[thorny token]

yea splash mace mandatory sadly :d

[golden violet]

so splash mace is what exactly? basic attack with which supports?

[serene isle]

maybe I can use the divine I dropped and hope to sell this weapon 1 div back

[thorny token]

but i think its best warrior build and rest do not rly comes close

[serene isle]

splash mace will do the same effect as herald of fire if I unnderstand correctly

moreor less

or boneshatter

[thorny token]

nope, herald of ash is on kill aoe

splash mace is aoe splash around everything you hit