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balmy fable
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its kinda another thing that feels half baked

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we've got a support that mostly works with mace skills

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oops no mace str stack weapon or item

thorny token
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well you still need flat for potcg still from somewhere

balmy fable
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makes it very very easy

thorny token
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and if potcg actually scales stomping ground

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then its not the worst idea ever

balmy fable
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i can test

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well

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it means u have to use gathering storm

thorny token
snow sierra
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dos rarety work on minion builds ?

soft lake
void gulch
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Y'all prefer LA or poison for ranger right now? just starting alt toon

balmy fable
balmy fable
soft lake
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Yeah, per step

thorny token
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that skills normally have

soft lake
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Well Stomping Ground is its own trigger, it doesn't add it as flat

thorny token
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yea

balmy fable
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ill test it rq on my monk

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how it interacts with gathering storm

soft lake
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I don't know if you actually get anything from PotCG with Stromping Ground, thinking about it

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Because it's not dealing weapon damage

balmy fable
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u have to str stack for both

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question is is stomping ground ON ITS OWN enough damage

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i guess u can do the same setup shout builds are doing

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and use a weapon swap totem setup

thorny token
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doesnt tempest flurry also work btw

balmy fable
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for bossing

soft lake
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Yeah, they scale similarly, they just won't multiply each other

thorny token
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you do the feet thingy with it a bunch

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:d

balmy fable
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sadly

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lul

thorny token
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oh right

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sadge

balmy fable
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ya this is what i mean

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feels super undercooked

thorny token
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same issue as rolling slam on warrior

balmy fable
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theres like 2 skills total you could really use it with

sacred field
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Hey so ive just got the game and kinda skimming the web for build ideas and genraly trying to learn as much as i can so i dont dive in blind.

Im currently curious on the 2 acendancy options for the witch. Most of the builds i see seem to use infernalist for minion builds.

What im wondering is how the two stack up with eachother in general. And if blood mage is not good for minions what does the blood mage acendancy do well?

thorny token
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idk why you cant pu stomping ground on tat thing

balmy fable
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stampede and gathering storm

balmy fable
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im gonna test with gathering storm

thorny token
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mostly because life is super underpowered

balmy fable
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man

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so if u str stack

thorny token
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so caster ascendancy based around life just doesnt rly work

balmy fable
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u also go es? lul

thorny token
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i mean you can stay life on str stack but why would you :d

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ideal scenario you are doing adorned with jewels anyway

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jewels that have op es affixes too

balmy fable
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okay

thorny token
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add timeless on top as well

balmy fable
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stomping ground is unusable with gathering storm

thorny token
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and gg es

balmy fable
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only the place u start and the place u finish count as steps

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LMAO

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let me film this

thorny token
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lul

grand glacier
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Is this item worth 5 exalted?

chilly badger
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fellas for warrior, what's ur early game st rotation

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how do u make use of perfeect strike

thorny token
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you have plenty of time on most bosses to perfect strike, just click life flask if you have to and tank a hit

soft lake
# sacred field Hey so ive just got the game and kinda skimming the web for build ideas and genr...

Infernalist getting more spirit is good for minions - more spirit means you can have more minions. Plus it has some decent defensive options.

Blood Mage has some physical spell stuff that can be strong, but it feels a bit lacklustre at the moment as an ascendancy and doesn't have the build variety I think it should. It can work, even at end-game levels, but I wouldn't recommend it for now (and I expect it to be buffed in the future).

Even with buffs to Blood Mage, I think Infernalist will be better suited to minions, though. Buffing your own crit damage/chance and getting leech don't do anything for your minions so the ascendancy doesn't have too much to offer

balmy fable
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look at this shit beam

thorny token
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every time someone shares streamable link i get reminded those fuckers banned me from there smh

soft lake
balmy fable
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technically its a "dash" but still

soft lake
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I bet the damage is pretty good if you can start inside the enemy

thorny token
soft lake
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Looks like quite a lot of shockwaves going off

thorny token
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youtube instead just demonetizes me instead of banning smh

balmy fable
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let me test what it looks like with uh

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stampede

sacred field
balmy fable
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uh yeah

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stomping ground is bad i think

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doesnt go off often enough with stampede

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and buggy w/ gathering storm

restive prawn
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do i need to use a quaterstaff to trigger elemental expression? i want to try a bow invoker build

thorny token
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yea thats only like 2 overlaps rip

balmy fable
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so that support is useless lmao

thorny token
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you can do bow invoker you just dont click ele expression

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i did bow invoker was fine

balmy fable
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welp thats officially 0 builds i want to play

thorny token
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you also ideally dont click the node before it either unless you do a bit of bug abusing

restive prawn
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nah whoel idea was to trigger ele exp with bow

thorny token
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with eow

balmy fable
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guess im done with poe2 for now

soft lake
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:(

balmy fable
# soft lake :(

i mean literally any skill or achetype i looked at and went that looks fun

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is undercooked or non-viable

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bleed flameblast/comet

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ignite anything

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cluster grenade

thorny token
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poison comet with unleash templarthumbsup

balmy fable
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stomping ground

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all dogshit

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with 0 tree support

balmy fable
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and im sorry but quarterstaff skills look boring as fuck

soft lake
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Yeah, I do know how you feel

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Crossbows are fun, though

balmy fable
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its just a million ways to stand in 1 place and spin ur staff a little bit

thorny token
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crossbows are indeed giga fun

balmy fable
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what are you guys actually playing on crossbows

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cuz explosive grenade is boring

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and cluster grenade is ass

thorny token
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galvanic shockburst plasma

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i just don use grenades

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and arent playing merc

scenic dawn
soft lake
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Explosive Shot is also very good

balmy fable
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I did look at siege cascade

thorny token
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yea used explo shot or a bit when leveling

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its rly good skill

balmy fable
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but i have 0 idea if its any good

thorny token
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there is also meme wtd was mentioning

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that i liked

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chronomancer hailstorm rounds

balmy fable
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hailstorm doesnt have a cd right

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or does reload count

thorny token
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no but emergency reload does

scenic dawn
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Just reload

balmy fable
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oh lmao

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ur gonna get screwed over if it doesnt refresh the cd tho

thorny token
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i mean theree salso that forced cd reset on chrono no

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and you obviously also play normal crossbow skill on side

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for clear and in between i guess

scenic dawn
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If you want ice go for the bows salvo

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Ice salvo

thorny token
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freezing salvo isnt even very good

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theres a reasonw hy ppl would rather just convert rod to cold

snow sierra
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Is the bug allready fixed ? where you can put in more emergency reloads and all have a diffrent cd ?

scenic dawn
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That’d be easier than adding a cold gem to it

thorny token
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yes obviously you use the ring

balmy fable
thorny token
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nah

dreamy portal
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guys is it possible to sustain demon form without pyromantic pact shenanigans?

thorny token
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but it looked kinda bad

scenic dawn
dreamy portal
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or is there another way

hoary epoch
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Anyone got a Everlasting gaze amulet they'll trade for another unique. I have 4 unique warrior gear and also couldn't find the amulet on the trade sight.

pine elm
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not worth it

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trust me

hoary epoch
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I only need it for build im going for lol I'm grabbing Eldritch battery, mind over matter, and chaos inoculation. It'll work perfectly @pine elm

pine elm
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i was doing the same thing

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end up using a rare amulet instead

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with mana regen and +% mana with cast speed

hoary epoch
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🤣🤣

scenic dawn
river stratus
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Golden Charms do not stack?

balmy fable
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welp

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i think im done with poe2

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for now

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theres literally 0 skills i want to play

thorny token
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sadge

balmy fable
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okay i dont think siege cascade is bad for clear

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probably shit for bossing tho

thorny token
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but its fair there isnt exactly ton of variety :d

balmy fable
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cuz its only 1 bolt per enemy

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so youd have to go ballistas for bossing

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i guess

thorny token
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yea you def need single target skill

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ballistas def arent single target skill

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they do like no damage

balmy fable
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then what is lul

thorny token
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siege is fire right

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rapid shot

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big damage also big pain to use but kinda fun

balmy fable
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i guess question is do i bother retooling my chayula monk to do this

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or scrap it and do something else

thorny token
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chayula probs one of the worst ascendancies ngl

balmy fable
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i went it for old trickster ele as chaos

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with cluster grenades

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since they rapid hit

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but uh

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clusters are actual dogshit

thorny token
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yea they also nerfed the breach thingy

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before release i think

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and darkness nodes are actually useless

balmy fable
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like my league starter

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was old trickster X as Chaos + cluster grenade

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ended up very bad

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clusters do zdps

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idk how they fucked them up so bad

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but they actually do less than a single scattershot explosive grenade

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on 4x the cd

thorny token
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lol

balmy fable
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so if i want to do siege cascade

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what ascendancy do i even go

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do i just go ranger

thorny token
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deadeye

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you insta stack tailwind wih rapid fire pretty much

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kinda op

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and +1 arrows are funny with crossbows

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i think with siege you get double hit most likely

balmy fable
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im ngl im kinda annoyed theres like... 4 viable ascendancies total

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well maybe 6

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both warriors, both rangers, infernalist, and invoker

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half the shit they added is just bad

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tbf i guess if i go ranger

thorny token
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both mercs are pretty good too

balmy fable
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i can decide later whether to go poison or this

balmy fable
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ive heard not a ton about them

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they just seem boring

thorny token
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well you wanted to str stack right gemling is best stat stacker

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withchunter is def boring

scenic dawn
thorny token
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but at least its playable

scenic dawn
thorny token
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also gem studded is pretty op for bunch of stuff

snow sierra
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god how ritch are you that you even think about stacking

scenic dawn
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I’ve got a gemling at about 600 str

snow sierra
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having like 3000 divs in your bank ?

scenic dawn
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👀

thorny token
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stat stacking isnt even that expensive when the per stat stuff is so op

scenic dawn
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I bought most of mine for 1 to 2 exalted

snow sierra
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ye only 100 divs for astamentis easy going

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And 50 ? for hand of wistom and action

balmy fable
thorny token
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well you can just skip astramentis

balmy fable
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so

scenic dawn
thorny token
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potcg is most broken part of the stacking

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and that shitu is 1ex lul

thorny token
scenic dawn
thorny token
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pillar of the caged god

scenic dawn
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Oh yeah that’s broken as shit

balmy fable
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idk

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maybe ill mess with siege cascade + rapid shot

snow sierra
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doubt pillar is good without hand of wistom and action but idk^^

scenic dawn
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But the gloves just help

balmy fable
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so what @thorny token just throw them on a tailwind + far shot deadeye w/ a crossbow, stack some evasion, and call it a day?

snow sierra
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But is it rly better then just going a normal build build with a normal staff^^

snow sierra
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without gloves

thorny token
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just go hybrid

balmy fable
thorny token
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every deadeye not doing that is trolling

balmy fable
thorny token
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well you dont stack life its just there

hollow galleon
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where can i find a list of all uniques? searchable by description and stuff

thorny token
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you equop the hybrid helmet

balmy fable
thorny token
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until you can afford good es helmet

balmy fable
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i guess u sustain life w/ leech, what about es

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ghost shrouds?

thorny token
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the one that i forgot its name

balmy fable
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or grim feast i guess

balmy fable
thorny token
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yes that

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and you sustain life with life flask

astral willow
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ghostwrithe

thorny token
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you arent gonna have any leech

scenic dawn
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Ghost shroud is honestly hella strong for 30 spirit

dusky rivet
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What is more important on a crossbow - the pdps or the max phys damage range? essentially, would a crossbow of 480 pdps & a range of 130-350 or a 465 pdps & a range of 115-400 be better?

thorny token
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no dont use ghostwrithe on eva build pls

balmy fable
thorny token
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life flasks are op

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just click 1 life flask node done

balmy fable
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ya they do seem to be

snow sierra
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Ghostwrithe donst work very well on eva builds, its insane on block builds tho

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with Ci

balmy fable
thorny token
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and as i said earlier grim feast is op with eva, you stay at double your es most of the time in map

balmy fable
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maybe ill give it a try

thorny token
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with avoidance

balmy fable
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dissappointing that that's the only build i feel like playing but whatever

thorny token
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and eventually you want to go ci on deadeye too

balmy fable
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o ya how IS stormcaller arrow? it looks cool

thorny token
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even tough its super cringe

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but it is what it is

thorny token
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just utility shock thingy otherwise

balmy fable
thorny token
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but it does shock super reliably

balmy fable
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im ngl i dislike that theres like

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1 viable skill for hit bows

thorny token
balmy fable
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makes me madge

thorny token
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well

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it is without cast on shock

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actual torture to paly

balmy fable
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shockchain arrow looks neat as well i guess

thorny token
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but it is what it is

snow sierra
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i honstly cant the Grim Feast and the conversion items staying this way

balmy fable
snow sierra
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that cant be intented

thorny token
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you only care about rod for big shit anyway

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otherwise you can always just LA

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(and by LA i mean clearing wit heralds)

balmy fable
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lmao that sounds boring as shit hoooly

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i assume shockchain arrow is dogshit

thorny token
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grim feast will be a lot less broken when ES wont be overtuned

balmy fable
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well

snow sierra
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ye but i think its because of grim feast and the conversion items

balmy fable
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maybe ill play siege cascade deadeye then

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for now

thorny token
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and also when the sanctum grim feast thiny gets fixed

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lul

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grim feast actual free sanctum

thorny token
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even if you get bored of siege cascade

balmy fable
normal fable
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Widow spark sorc just better than normal spark sorc?

thorny token
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but crossbows so well designed

balmy fable
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theres a reason i started xbows tho yeah

thorny token
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can also go blueflame on top

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for freezes

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gud build

balmy fable
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blueflame?

thorny token
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100% fire to cold gloves

balmy fable
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oooh

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yeah that might be worth doing

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and then just rapid shot for bossing

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or whatever

thorny token
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yea

dreamy portal
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anybody got a leveling guide/tree for stat stacking gemling?

thorny token
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oh even though i guess they thought of that lul

balmy fable
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be cool if u could make siege cascade work for bosses but idt you can

thorny token
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on siege cascade

balmy fable
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o rip

thorny token
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can still freeze bosses with rapid fire i guess but yea

balmy fable
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im ngl this is the stuff thats lame like

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no fun allowed i guess

thorny token
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yea theres some annoying stuff

balmy fable
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can u convert fire to lightning

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idt u can huh

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cuz getting shock would be neat

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ignite is kinda just

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not useful imo

snow sierra
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Anyone here has experience with detonate death ?

calm orchid
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Can you anoint an item more than once

snow sierra
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yes

calm orchid
balmy fable
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well have u played rapid shot/siege cascade @thorny token

snow sierra
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i know its good, but i wanna know if its good without crit, all bloodmage builds do crit scaling cant rly do that on chronomancer

thorny token
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weaker than decompose templarthumbsup

balmy fable
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ill give it a go i guess and let u know how it is if u want

thorny token
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for a bit but only for leveling

balmy fable
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ya im curious how itll work endgame

thorny token
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it is great skill

balmy fable
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should scale i guess

thorny token
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wowuld heavily recommend

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and because crossbows work like barrages

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with extra arrow you slap scattershot anddeadeye on top

balmy fable
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i mean at least siege cascade looks good

thorny token
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and it just goes fat boom

balmy fable
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idk like a lot of skills just look and feel unsatisfying

balmy fable
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or diff skill

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oh wait

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explode like the uh

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detonator

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its okay

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i cant really tell how good it is because i was using it just for booming grenades

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which was fine

thorny token
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explode crossbow arrow

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idk whats the name

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exploding rounds

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or some shit

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try linking scattershot to it in hideout

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and just right clicking

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will feel great i promise :d

balmy fable
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yeah

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i use that w/ grenades

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starting chaos monk was a mistake tho

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i got baited by old trickster chaos

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lmao

thorny token
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chaos monk looked op at first glance

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then we actually got to experience how leech works

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and it did not looked as op anymore

balmy fable
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yup

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i guess that's the point of a beta

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still annoyign tho

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but yeah

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reroll into blood mage only got as far as act 2

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before i realized how bad bleed and ignite are lul

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so i guess im rerolling again to deadeye

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shield skills are bad too from what i hear sadly

snow sierra
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alot of bloodmages playing DD cause they can use a level 7 skill :x its kinda silly

balmy fable
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blood mage is just not good

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any caster outside archmage is not good

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imo

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and i cbf to play archmage

thorny token
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decompose is technically a caster templarthumbsup

snow sierra
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it is for detonate death, but that skill is hella clunky

balmy fable
thorny token
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yes

snow sierra
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yes

balmy fable
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ya ill pass LUL

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im gonna try this siege cascade meme

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with rapid shot

thorny token
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its mostly fine you just have to kill white mobs with shit like hexblast to start the chain every so often

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and hexblast is trash skill so biggest reason why i dropped the build

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also most setups ppl are doing for decompose are garbage too so that doesnt help

balmy fable
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sounds annoying to play

thorny token
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it is but bossing is chill you just walk in circle :d

balmy fable
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looool

snow sierra
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Or you get minions

thorny token
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also dense maps are chil you just walk in straight line

snow sierra
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and auto kill them

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with the boots

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lol

thorny token
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thats what you do for bosses tho

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only downside decompose has over dd cant use clerics at all

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but it does double damage and has full screen aoe so i would still rather play decompose over dd

balmy fable
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idk annoying builds are kinda not my thing LMAO

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like i said im going to try siege cascade deadeye

thorny token
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just dont level with crossbows until you get explo shot

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if you want to keep your sanity imo :d

balmy fable
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shockchain isnt bad iirc

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ill prob level with uh

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stormcaller arrow tho

thorny token
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i just did LA/oos/rod until explo shot

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i actively dislike rod oos its so annoying

balmy fable
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oos works with attacks?

thorny token
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but gotta do what you gotta do

thorny token
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and some stuf fthat doesnt chain also works

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like BL being bugged with it

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but yea benefit of oos rod is you basically just one shot most of act bosses if you do your weapon upgrades :d

balmy fable
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weapon upgrades are obnoxious af lul

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but yeah

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i should still have some leveling xbows from my monk

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dno about normal bows

thorny token
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can just buy one for every 5 levels if you can be bothered :d

balmy fable
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true enough, exalt drops are plentiful if u arent an actual slug

thorny token
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yea and you will save the time wasted on trading by tenfold anyway by doing that

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well have to do also quivers i guess they are even more important than bows i feel like

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with the quiver node early

balmy fable
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which quiver node

torn root
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do tempest bells ring eachother

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?

balmy fable
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well

thorny token
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80% quiver effect

balmy fable
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id prob swap to xbow as fast as possible, cuz iirc xbow is very nice

thorny token
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crossbow just doesnt have that many great skills until explo shot

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imo

balmy fable
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id have to look at the tiers

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iirc shockchain bolts is quite nice

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though honestly

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can probably level with stormcaller + shockchain arrow

thorny token
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galvanic shards you mean?

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as that one is kinda deceptive

balmy fable
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yeah that one i think

thorny token
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the intitial part of it only converts 40% to lightning

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so if you are clicking lightning nodes its kinda ass

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for damage

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good clear at any point of the game tho

balmy fable
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nah youd go proj nodes wouldnt u

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if ur ranger start

thorny token
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but as long as theres like only 1 enemy it does like nothing

balmy fable
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actually i guess there are some lightning nodes but eh

thorny token
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yea there are lightning ndoes very very close

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and elemental

balmy fable
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id just go raw proj/xbow damage nodes

thorny token
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harness and surgin veyr good

balmy fable
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or bow damage

thorny token
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you def arent clicking any crossbow nodes on deadeye btw

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ever

balmy fable
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why not

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arent they decent

thorny token
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not worth pathing to

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and they arent even decent imo

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instant reload is only good one but you can get reload speed elsewhere and attack/skill speed also scales reload speed

balmy fable
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so what do u take then, just raw proj and attack nodes?

thorny token
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and deadeye gives you ton of that alreayd

thorny token
balmy fable
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ah yeah okay so generic scaling

thorny token
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herald

balmy fable
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are the herald nodes worthwhile?

thorny token
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they are very strong

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well coming calamity is only herald node pretty much anwyay

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but yea itsa lot of damage

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this is my planned tree for uh shockburst/plasma for example

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with fire to cold you just clickt he cold pen and freeze instead

little river
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What’s the best minion build endgame? Can’t do breach using my arsonist. Kill so slow

thorny token
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of electrocute and shock shit

balmy fable
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eh imo not worth going fire to cold with siege cascade not being able to freeze

queen chasm
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Does increasing shock give flat % or is it a percentage of the base value?

thorny token
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well still look at tree

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cold nodes are kinda better

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so probs still worth

balmy fable
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ya lots of generic scaling

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why arent u taking any crit wheels

thorny token
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because im not crit or planning to be really

balmy fable
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crit just seems good

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i guess for lightning ur better off with lucky tho

wispy comet
#

Is infernal legion+instability on raging spirits really any good late game? Or is it better to just build them to attack?

thorny token
#

well crossbows and bows have 5 base crit

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you can only get reasonable base crit on them with EOW

snow sierra
#

I like attack more but you can make both work

thorny token
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and thats annoying

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and i dont eve take lucky lightning on my lightnign cbow

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because its not worth pathing to

balmy fable
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EOW?

thorny token
#

eye of winter

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it applies critical werakness

balmy fable
#

oh

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weird

thorny token
#

which is +10 base crit

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also is kina bugged

balmy fable
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hm

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so dont bother then

thorny token
#

and applies full stacks on first hit

balmy fable
#

thats dissappointing

thorny token
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idk im fine with not needing crit tree is tight enough already anyway

balmy fable
#

and there just isnt enough crit on the tree huh

thorny token
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and gem sockets too

balmy fable
#

is ur damage gonna be okay without crit tho

thorny token
#

it will yes

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the machinegun crossbow skills do very good damage

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im kinda hoping plasma burst isnt complete trash too but its not as good as shockburst still sadly

balmy fable
#

uh which one is that

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the railgun?

thorny token
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i will still use it because its closest thing to scourge arrow

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we have in poe2

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xd

thorny token
balmy fable
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its okay from what i heard

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ill draw up a tree in a few, see if i can do anything decent

thorny token
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all trees i did for poe2 so far are just jewel sockets are op, es is op, movespeed is op

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so i try to include all of that

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and then done

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and if i cant then bad build

balmy fable
#

yeah

thorny token
#

and i wont play

balmy fable
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then damage wher eu can

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okay ya 100% u go cold conversion lmao

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im looking

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cold has like

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3 pen wheels

thorny token
#

yea

balmy fable
#

fire has a single wheel

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can pen go negative

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idt it can?

thorny token
#

no

balmy fable
#

curses and exposure can still i think

thorny token
#

yea

balmy fable
#

so how much pen does it pay to get

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i guess enough to get them to 0

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so u can curse and expose under

thorny token
#

also even though siege cant freeze it will still be able to chill at least i guess?

balmy fable
#

should yeah

twin minnow
#

Hi everyone, hopefully this is right place.Anyone have any idea why first ring( the one with 207 mana ) gives me 1.2k more mana than the second one ? This happens only if I equip regalia, thanks.

thorny token
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also if youi cahnge your mind about siege

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then you can go explo with hoi :d

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also

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you can go hoi regardless i think

balmy fable
thorny token
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you just go polcirkenr

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or whatever the fuck is that name

balmy fable
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is that fucking

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finnish

thorny token
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i think so lul

balmy fable
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lmao

thorny token
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this thingy

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i guess its 1 divine tho

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but eventually if you ont have

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it maeks hoi also self chain

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so its just good ring on cold build regardless

balmy fable
#

oh yeah

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that's like

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finnish for polar circle i think lmao

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oooh yeah

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i could do hoi siege cascade with that

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hmm

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well either way guess ill go deadeye lmao

thorny token
#

yep see its all coming together

balmy fable
#

yeah okay i actually like this build idea

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ty beam ur the best

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i owe u a beer

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again

thorny token
neat iron
#

How long does it take to swap weapons?

twin minnow
#

Here comes the weirder part, if I don't wear anything on my second ring slot I get more mana than the one with 187 mana lol

balmy fable
#

any other tech u got for htis is appreciated @thorny token ❤️ ill get the char leveled and see how it goes

twin minnow
thorny token
#

hmm actually i think i just remembered something that might be bad

balmy fable
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uh oh

thorny token
#

im not sure if the extra fire on rapid fire is still bugged with conversion or not but i think it is

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e.g you wont convert the extra fire from it

balmy fable
#

whats the alternative for bossing then

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i guess explo shot

thorny token
#

yea

balmy fable
#

which isnt nearly as fun

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but its there i guess

thorny token
#

well 4 shot explo shot does very good damage at least and should be pretty good at freezing too

balmy fable
#

4 shot is what, 1 proj from deadeye 2 from scatter?

thorny token
#

yea

balmy fable
#

ill have to try it

thorny token
#

oh also as you will be cold you can also slot in hailstorm rounds on top

balmy fable
#

question is how will i tell if the conversion works on rapid shot lul

thorny token
#

and hailstorm does a lot

balmy fable
#

hailstorm is maybe the best way to boss huh

stray panther
#

how much rarity percent are people running?

thorny token
#

well hailstorm has pseudo cd so kinda limited

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but its rly good supplement

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and shitton of damage

balmy fable
#

how does the reload on it work

thorny token
#

it just passively gains bolts

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over time

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like unleash

balmy fable
#

ah okay

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even with you reloading

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hm

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so u just add that as a supplemental okay yeah

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worth trying

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is there a cold bolt skill u can boss with i wonder

thorny token
#

well you can fire 2 salvos with the uh

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the reload thingy

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but yea

bleak forge
#

hi, does soul core of Jiquani apply to Total HP or base HP(before Item HP) ?

crisp star
#

does plague bearer skill scale with poison or physical?

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and the stored poison damage in there is it the actual damage/s of the poison or the expected base damage of the poison?

thorny token
#

at least as far as game mechanics go

balmy fable
#

there is permafrost bolts for bossing @thorny token idk how the scaling is late tho

bleak forge
bleak forge
#

thx

wheat marlin
#

What items do I need to gigablast the campaign as a sorc? Lifesprig seems really bad at low levels, not sure what else is out there

narrow cipher
#

can someone tell me why Trenchtimbre is so good?

thorny token
#

and expected poison damage should include duration too, so not dps

thorny token
#

these shotgun skills arent rly that great for bossing outside of frag imo

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like permafrost at full shotgun deals same damage as 1 explo shot

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but downside is that adding 1 proj do not doubles that damage

balmy fable
#

i THINK permafrost has higher DE if u hit all the shots

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but yeah theres that i guess

thorny token
#

470% de on permafrost on full shotgun, 437% DE on explo so fairly close

hazy locust
#

can you re-anoint an amulet?

stray panther
#

How much rarity % are people running?

balmy fable
#

and playstyle should be better on explo

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cuz dont have to be melee range

thorny token
#

yea

thorny token
stray panther
#

fair enough, thanks 🙂

limber arrow
#

does spark not shock?

balmy fable
#

it does if you do enough damage

sonic blade
#

Anyone know the math on which ones better?

sonic blade
#

I use it to trigger shock in my build.

limber arrow
#

odd it wasnt triggering cast on shock to bulid at all

sonic blade
#

I have a feeling it has to do with Conduction.

balmy fable
#

@thorny token there's WAY less damage on tree for cold than lightning by ranger lul

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ranger/monk is mostly lightning

real bolt
#

Has anyone tested if the ancestor spirit minions from warbringer buff other minions ?

Thanks in advance

balmy fable
#

have to travel up to witch

thorny token
#

only thing lightning has above it is the electorcute cluster and wild storm

balmy fable
#

that's pmuch all the cold damage scaling

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2.5 wheels

thorny token
#

yea and lightning has that as well + electorcute

balmy fable
#

hm similar then i guess yeah

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is it worth pathing up to witch for damage i wonder

thorny token
#

probs not just take more generic nodes i guess

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theres plenty of them in middle

balmy fable
#

feels bad

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yeah

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i guess

#

none of them are that good tho

#

idk how much accuracy is needed

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as well

#

i guess u do want to travel up for CI eventually

thorny token
#

im not taking any on tree :d i might take 1 cluster eventually

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but probs wont

#

and just get like accu affix on ring or whatever

balmy fable
#

there is the thin ice wheel but idk if its worth

#

eh some of them are okay damage

cerulean moth
#

what skill should i make link 3 first? new to the game

balmy fable
#

it IS right there if u go CI tho

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so

thorny token
#

i feel like you can just do something like this?

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and be mostly fine even when it looks weird

balmy fable
#

yeah that's similar to what i was doing

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u got a link

languid epoch
#

guys does having an extra arrow means my damage "doubles" ?

balmy fable
#

so i can put it in a sticky note

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lul

thorny token
#

i dont :d

balmy fable
#

f

thorny token
#

i can recreate really quickly sec

balmy fable
#

god all this travelling to get like 10% damage increases feels like ass

#

i can too, im just being lazy lul

thorny token
#

well you are getting jewel sockets on teh way as well

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so its not so bad

#

at least on the tree i posted you get 2 jewel sockets on that ugly travel

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and jewel sockets are op

balmy fable
#

ya they seem to be

rapid wadi
#

whats a good non dot spell that would be good on a crit based caster

balmy fable
#

i just wish there were more nodes on the tree that felt ok

#

do u path to get ES later u think

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and go ci

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or just stay hybrid

thorny token
#

would probs just drop few points for CI eventually yae

#

it just needs good jewels

#

with es + es stun threshold

balmy fable
#

prob need to pick up some ES on tree also i expect

thorny token
#

and then you also clik eternal youth etc

#

the tree i posted is enough es

balmy fable
#

u think?

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it isnt that much really

#

compared to what u can get

thorny token
#

156% from tree another 80% from jewels

#

its already like 4-5k es

balmy fable
#

that isnt bad i guess yeah

thorny token
#

then double that with grim feast

#

and spectral ward and suberfuge mask are op

#

you just go pure es helmet eventually and just get eva there from subterfuge

#

gives you like 1k flat eva from 500 eshelmet pretty cool :d

#

just casually having whole trickster on tree

patent shell
#

what is stronger bell + tempest furry or storm wave ?

cerulean moth
balmy fable
tranquil steeple
#

easier imo is storm wave

#

range is removes the need for defence if you are even ok at dodging stuff

balmy fable
tranquil steeple
#

storm wave single target kind of pales compared to tempest bell

thorny token
#

only downside is that the pathing is disgusting but thankfully (again) jewels are just broken soo

#

crossbow invoker def has way nicer pating but also youjust do half of deadeye damage so donwsides i guess :d

#

but it was something i considered before at least

balmy fable
strong swift
#

the jewel mod: #% increased Energy Shield from Equipped Focus doesn't seem to work with eldritch battery at all 😦

balmy fable
#

god i didnt notice eternal youth now swaps life and es mechanics

#

thats dumb

balmy fable
#

you lose out on damage near ranger start that way too

thorny token
#

yea, the start just looks tad cleaner

#

forgot 1 jewel here :d

jovial blade
#

does life recoup works on zealots oath?

thorny token
#

recoup is not regen

#

so no\

jovial blade
#

okay thanks

wispy comet
#

Can Gemling go over 20% Quality?

tranquil steeple
#

Anyone have a good build for invoker thats cheap for early mapping until I can afford to switch?

#

Preferably storm wave

austere crane
#

can anyone help me pick out gems for skeletal ice mages

merry scarab
#

does anyone know if arc is better than spark for archmage?

round arrow
#

does anyone know how momentum works? how far is "2 meters"?

cedar river
#

Deadeye: Explosive Shot and Shockburst Rounds vs Gas Arrows
What is the cons and pros vs the different builds?

pseudo bobcat
round arrow
#

just looked it says 1.6 meter radius, pretty close, thanks

storm smelt
#

quick question, lvl 20 skill gem what lvl requires?

solid kestrel
#

I have 1 life, 2000 shield, and 3000 mana, my mana is my health as well.
I keep dying without losing all my shield or mana, my life just goes from 1 to 0. How? Why?

blazing dagger
#

does anyone know how to calculate dps on a +2 arrow bow?

wet lagoon
#

I want to make a Jedi monk build so bad but I feel it’s too good and is going to be nerfed soon. Should I just continue going through cruel on my witch or do y’all think monk will be good for awhile?

rapid seal
#

Play witch bro

spring birch
#

What venom should I pick in cruel for Crit Wave Lightning Monk?
Lost, Sky or Marshes

rapid seal
#

After ur done with that u cna always make a new char, dont chase meta builds

solid kestrel
spring birch
wet lagoon
rapid seal
spring birch
#

🙏

rapid seal
dreamy oracle
#

new mace go bonk

forest spoke
#

If I use Three Dragons then Shock Magnitude nodes on the passive tree scale how much Shock I get from my fire damage right?

stone fog
jagged thunder
#

do most lightning dmg electrocute? just like most cold dmg can freeze

mossy sequoia
#

What are people doing to make wep swap as easy as possible? If I need to sigil of power from a staff, then swap bakc to my wand any easy tricks?

twin minnow
#

or whatever main skill you are using

hard wyvern
#

ice strike monk, I used the crescent one and just got the barrier one and switched over to try, the dps number on the skill panel of crescent one was better, but why do I feel like barrier deal more dmg ? Is it just because of higher phys?

jagged thunder
#

so can it also electrocute?

mossy sequoia
mossy sequoia
#

nvm found it thanks!

jagged thunder
twin minnow
#

you are welcome

silent cape
#

can someone help me figure out the best defensive upgrade i can make i can screen share get melted on t15

twin minnow
#

can anyone help me to determine what is wrong with my regalia ?

I have 4247 mana when I have 42 Strength as you can see in the picture. When I equip the prismatic ring, my mana drops to 3870 even though it has +183 max mana on it. I found out it is about strength, when it goes above 45 I lose mana only if I am wearing my regalia. Anyone have any idea or is it a bug ?

rapid seal
silent cape
#

im a monk with all res capped should i focus life or es?

#

@rapid seal

twin minnow
twin mauve
#

chat is gas arrow deadeye st serviceable for map bosses? i plan to go w cold convert one, dont plan to do any pinnacle stuff, only high tier mapping

cedar river
#

I myself is considering respeccing to either Gas arrow or explosive shot/Shockburst Rounds. I miss a proper weapon for both, so hard to decide

twin mauve
#

tbh gas arrow feels great so far in leveling ( mid act 3 ), im just worried about ST, its not terrible but im wondering how it holds up in tier15+

teal sail
#

Lightning monk - anyone use staggering palm? I used it for a while but since it doesnt shock it feels like im better served using orb of storms

rapid seal
karmic lion
#

Can frozen enemies not spread contagion?

uncut umbra
#

I'm thinking about aggravated bleed build with minions. Using skel snipers to break armor and then using other melee skeletons to bleed. And I will apply vuln through blasphemy and aggravte it through unique boots for double bleed damage.

My question is what effects bleed. How can I maximzie bleed per hit?

#

Also is there a way to get bleeding mobs to explode or something to make the build clear aoe packs more reliably?

indigo stag
#

is there any bleed explosion amulets?

#

That could work with the passive that gives all the amulets stats to minions

uncut umbra
#

ah interesting let me check amuelt affixes

median kraken
uncut umbra
#

Oh. So it takes the biggest hit. Hmm. That is actually interesting

#

So I can make a single brute with highest phys damage and give lacerate to it

indigo stag
#

Also gonna be absolutely horrible to map with unless you actively avoid going in to 80% of the maps due to them being filled with doorways that minions get stuck on

#

until that is fixed, minions feel horrible to play even if they are ranged

uncut umbra
#

Yeah that happens so far it is bene ok ish in campaign

#

had some trouble though that's true

indigo stag
#

I had to reroll from my summoner due to getting sick of all the goddamn fire walls everywhere 24/7 and the fact that my maps would go at least twice as fast if i didnt have to babysit and manually order them to walk thru fucking doorways

uncut umbra
#

Also do you guys know if my rarity works when minions kills stuff. I never played minions in poe1

indigo stag
#

i think you need to be the one to do the killing blow/culling to get benefit of your rarity

uncut umbra
#

"If one of your minions gets a kill, the minion's IIR is added to yours and the total is used." is from wiki

#

I guess I'm fine

indigo stag
#

sounds like it

#

wait minions iir

#

do we have access to minion iir or is it just wording from poe1?

uncut umbra
#

wording from poe1 wiki

robust radish
#

im playing gas arrow deadeye and my single target is just ass... last boss of t4 trials takes about 1.5min with all positive buffs

#

any tips for something to pivot into or improve?

#

any upgrades from this point seem like they cost 1 div+ for marginal gain

uncut umbra
unkempt pivot
#

is lightning penetration and lightning expousre the same thing?

median kraken
uncut umbra
median kraken
uncut umbra
#

so if you take monster resistance 0 pen has no effect

unkempt pivot
#

oh ok tyty

willow ether
#

can someone tell me what’s better ima grenade user merc

robust radish
#

seems quite slow compared to meta builds

median kraken
robust radish
#

theres not really a way to sustain mana on deadeye on single target outside of mana flask

#

the fight was like 3 mins long i just ran out of flask charges

median kraken
#

Yeah, fair. Mana management's annoying right now.

robust radish
#

i have like 15 div investment in my gear probably

#

(most of it in my queen of the forest)

verbal girder
#

What’s the best blood witch build

median kraken
trim swan
#

trying to generate automatic power charges with combat frenzy and resonance but i am getting endurance stacks half of the time. Is it bugged ?

median kraken
weak spade
#

guys i got lucky and dropped a lifesprig on my first boss in the game. I want to create a build around it but not sure where to start. Any recommendations?

robust radish
median kraken
robust radish
#

i have a 300 dps +1 bow, full t9 flat quiver, any upgrades dps wise from here are like a div+ tho for maaaybe 50 dps on the bow

tropic rune
#

Anyone know if curses persist on enemies when you weapon swap to a non curse build?

robust radish
#

maybe its cheaper just to pivot

median kraken
left matrix
#

Can someone with some bigbrain Lightning Arrow experience help me?

Trying to understand why people dont take Cascade over Unleash for the Lightning Orb spell on LA build?
And I havent seen a single build recommend or make use of Frenzy charge generation with Barrage for Rod spams :/ arent the rod's pulses the majority of your boss damage?

tropic rune
median kraken
tropic rune
#

Perfect, thanks

left matrix
#

Also curious as fq about the snapshotting, because people advise that damage is dynamic to currently equiped gear, but that can only be for new hits, existing hits or projectiles that are already mid flight cannot be dynamically refreshed by changing equipment sets unless they want to murder their engine with how often every instance of damage is calculated

limber arrow
#

Has anyone tried converting flame blast to cold?

neat bison
#

10% of damage taken from mana sounds good in theory but how big of a mana pool would you need for that not to be super annoying?

sleek echo
#

guys, what does (5L) 4 sockets mean? i understand the 4 sockets but idk what the L stands for in a skill

neat bison
#

I’m at about 1k rn

hallow laurel
#

In one of empyrian's vids he has a 5 socket chest piece, how is that attained?

sleek echo
neat bison
#

Sounds like a big time unique yea

hallow laurel
#

Thanks that is easier to look up. Morior Invictus apparently

median kraken
sleek echo
#

yeah but with 4 sockets wouldnt that mean u have like 4 links or something? i dont get it tbh

neat bison
#

The skill gem was put in a socket in poe1

fierce viper
#

Hey guys, question.

Does Sturdy Metal boost armor before iron reflexes or after?

median kraken
#

It includes the active gem. So 5L means a skill with 4 extra sockets for support gems.

feral halo
#

anyone know of any good endgame frost sorc builds?

median kraken
wispy light
#

Hey can someone answer it real quick, is there a big difference in movement speed with 30 or 35. Or is 25 enough am using a deadeye but playing a monk for flicker build

stuck quarry
#

Lvl 45 grenade Merc and just started cruel. I want to try the galvanic shard build. Is it worth it? Grenade build is nice just award sometime with the delay and the cross bow reloading

#

Awkward*

neat bison
wispy light
#

Which one you think is better or more worth it

neat bison
#

Well

ashen copper
#

can you expand from a distilled emotion notable passive node?

neat bison
#

Unless you need the extra evasion for something, the more expensive one is better of course

wispy light
ashen copper
#

dang haha

neat bison
#

Not unless you can afford a replacement haha

hallow flax
#

Since I've tried out most Mercenary skills across a full playthrough, I can't help but feel like I'm missing something vital with Armor Breaking rounds.

Even if I can get the debuff applied, it hardly seems to help from my experience, and I had a much easier and faster time applying armor breaks with corrosion on my poison bombs.

wispy light
#

And most of the invasion comes from this

indigo stag
#

jesus thats a nutty uniq

neat bison
#

Yea pretty dope

indigo stag
#

25% inc max mana, 50% inc global defense? wtf

proud ore
#

Anyone have any idea how i can improve my build? Im currently playing a Titan Warrior fire crossbow warrior with explosive shot as my main ability, oil gernade for exposure and quick reload for more dmg boost. Im doing t7s and only die when i get cornered, but it feels bad when i have to shoot mor ethen once to kill a pack.

analog patrol
#

I can't upgrade essence drain and hexblast skills from level 16 to 17 even though I'm level 79. Why?

indigo stag
#

not enough int?

feral flame
#

are minion builds good ? i heard they got nerfed ?

grim spade
#

anyone else doing galvanic shockburst deadeye? is there a point in the lategame where you drop kitokos for a rare glove

sterile stone
#

@midnight bolt how do you handle mana cost early?, i decide to buy 2 +2 weapon lol

#

and +1 ammy

#

now its like 24 mana with inspiration

olive wasp
#

Increased Damage from block would give me 38% increased damage, as opposed to 25%, but the 25% is "Physical Damage", does this apply to your weapons damage thus making it more powerful?

indigo stag
hushed viper
#

hello, can I ask whats the point of consuming shock?

snow walrus
#

Hi im starting a class with sorceries, is storm weaver lightning, or stormweaaver frost what 1 is better

dawn spire
ancient moss
# olive wasp Increased Damage from block would give me 38% increased damage, as opposed to 25...

no you have to look it at another way.
you have differnent type of damage u apply to enemies.
and those types are something like: spell, attack, melee, slam, etc ...

and those categoriers can apply elemental, chaos or physical damage. or something together.
there are even some nodes which converts physical damage into another element.

my advise is u look at your main damage abilities in the extended view, to look at the specific damage it already does.
so you can choose which one this would be better for you.

dawn spire
#

But they don't have anything that is specific to either cold or lightning

lucid glade
#

How do you get those implicits on gear ? I see this on trade site and the mana regen seem juicy, is it "expert" raiments ?

dawn spire
dawn spire
#

It gets a random corrupted implicit mod

lucid glade
dawn spire
lucid glade
dawn spire
#

It's on expert keth raiment, specifically. That's the full name of the base

wet mango
agile meteor
#

What lvl i can farm FATES to Trial Master?

upper viper
#

If i wish ti scale LA the best. Being that the skill convert 40% of phys. Would i need a bow with somewhat okay phyx. and than mostly lightning damage ?

wet mango
#

what does the conversion % affect what you're looking for?

#

like it doesn't matter the %, more damage = more daamge

upper viper
#

im looking for lightning damage and cold damage 🙂

#

was given this by my buddy

wet mango
wet mango
upper viper
#

dunno, was just given it

wet mango
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right, probably didn't realize how it worked)

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(do you see/understand that the iron rune is a wasted slot, since it has no phys dmg)

upper viper
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a little bit

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going to that bow, gave me a whole 200dps XD

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lol

wet mango
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i mean it's a great bow

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yuou'll do a lot of damage, but less lightning daamge than a comparable bow with phys instead of chaos (but same overall damage) (do you understand why)

upper viper
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No

wet mango
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if you had phys instead of chaos, the phys would be converted to lightning

clear sluice
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So I am gemling crossbow, shockburst and triple herald. Reached mapping. I'm in Dex and evasion ATM. I pathed north to the "evasion to es on body" cluster.

What I wanna know is if anyone has a more sure way of getting defenses in order other than dipping into ES?

upper viper
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Ahh, so i would try to find a phys bow instead. That has additional lightning damage to it ?

old shuttle
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best weapon switches for purely maximsing minion hp?

clear sluice
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My points are mostly in the SE area of the skill tree so I am pretty close to armour and more str nodes

old shuttle
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mostly just main hand weap, i think i have the focus

wet mango
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or overall damage?

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the chaos damage is still damaging

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yuou'll do[....] less lightning daamge than a comparable bow with phys instead of chaos (but same overall damage)

little river
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Which minions best for endgame? My arsonist seems to do low dmg now

upper viper
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i care about the lightning damage. And cold damage, but cold damage comes from the support gems i am using

wet mango
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you are doing lightnig and cold at the same time?

upper viper
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would something like this, do better

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i am yes 🙂

wet mango
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(how are you getting cold damage)

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(pls not cold infusion lol)

upper viper
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cold infusion and ice bite

wet mango
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did you read cold infusion

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the 2nd line

upper viper
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just did monkaHide

old shuttle
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mfw reading the skill explains the skill

wet mango
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why ddo you care about the lightning dmg vs other type

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you're not doing less damage

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it's just less lightning daamge (since the choas dmg doesn't convert)